#229 - I Talked With New Artist Jon Langston + Bobby and Eddie on Bands Who Hated Each Other

New Artist Jon Langston stops by to talk about grinding it out on the road for several years before moving to Nashville and now has the support of Luke Bryan. He also talks about a scary moment he had after suffering his 6th concussion. Bobby and Eddie talk about famous bands who hated other members. From Aerosmith to Oasis and more.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right. Coming up, we'll talk to John Langston, new

(00:02):
artist on Luke Bryant's label who has a song on
the top forty right now. So we'll talk to him,
kind of get to know him. Until this podcast. I've
never met him before, um, but some of my people
that I'm super close to love him, so we'll talk
to him. Also, Eddie and I will get together and
talk about bands, very famous bands that are members that
hate each other and how they either kept going or didn't.

(00:23):
But we'll do that too. I mentioned the A c
m S because they were just announced. There are two
major country organizations. The A c m S that award
happens in April May always, I think April this year,
and the c m AS that one happens in November.
Um A c MS in Las Vegas, a c m's
main offices in California. It was kind of started as
a West coast country establishment. Really big deal, but the

(00:47):
offices in California. The awards show is in Las Vegas.
C m AS Nashville, And you know, the c m
A is a bigger organization because of you know, they
have CMAM Music Fest, they have the CMA Awards. The
c M A is here in Nashville, it's closer. Both
are massive. I would say the A c M is
a little more progressive and new like newer and a

(01:10):
little more realistic with what people really like. But the
CMAS are a bit more prestigious, and you can sometimes
want to c M A a year after you blew up.
But I would say the CMAS have a little bit
more mm in the show and the award. Both have
their strengths, for sure, but people, I say, what's the difference.

(01:32):
Just that's the two biggest bodies and country music. The
A c M s and c m as bought their
massive awards, just a bit different ones, a little more progressive. Um,
it can take a little more chances, which is really cool,
a little younger, and then one the CMA is a
little more prestigious, a little a little, a little more
in it. I've made two sound effects and like four sentences.

(01:53):
The A c M s are now, though the award
show will be in Las Vegas. I wanted to read
some of the awards. The big one is always Entertainer
of the Year. You have Luke Brian, Eric Church, Luke Combs,
Thomas Rhett and Carrie Underwood, which is interesting because this
is the first time Luke Combs has ever been up
for an Entertainer of the Year and he could actually
win it. He could win it. My my prediction was

(02:16):
that he would be up for this c M A
but but you know, A c ms are a little
more progressive, so they were the first to put Luke in. Um,
so congrats to those guys. At this point, I don't
want to guess. Okay, not because I'm scared to guess.
I mean, I can't hear me to guests. I would
like you to guess. All right, M Entertainer of the Year?

(02:39):
Do you want me to do? Who I would vote for,
but who I think will win? Yeah, I think that's
a good way because who I think will win wouldn't
always be I vote for Luke Brian because of the
massive shows, the Farm Tour, which we'll talk about with John,
which he just sets up a stage and then thousands
people come. American idol like, Entertainer of the Year means
more to me than just putting out hits because what

(03:00):
Luke's done. I would vote. I would vote Luke Brian,
and one of the Lukes will win it. Yeah, I
think so and I'm coughing out there, but I think
Luke Holmes could win it. Luke Bryant could win it.
So I would vote Luke Bryan, who I think will
win will be one of the Lukes Male Artists of

(03:22):
the Year. Luke Hombs wins this walking Away because it's
Dirk's Luke Combs, Thomas Rhet, Chris sta Bolton, Keith Urban
all Worthy. Dirk's does not get the appreciation that he deserves.
Thomas Rhett is oddly so successful, and they're they're like
three artists that don't get the real credit and they're

(03:46):
not asking for the credit. But there are three artists
that don't really get the notoriety because of the time
and environment they came up in. I think one of
them is Thomas Rhett. One of them is Dan and
Shay because they've kind of been overshadowed by Luke Holmes
and Kane Brown even though they're breaking all these barriers.
I think there there pop sensibility to hurting them a
little bit in the hardcore voters of country. But I

(04:08):
think Thomas Rhett, Dan and Shay and the other one
who kind of gets looked at weirdly and who shouldn't
it is Kelsey Ballerini interesting because Marin kind of showed
up and seemed a little more traditional. And to look again,
they're their own artists. Everybody's different and an art it's
hard to quantify. You can look at data, but I

(04:30):
think that Kelsey and the feeling of voters kind of
got jumped by Maren. So she's not looked at in
the way that I would feel she's deserving to be
looked at. So because I think Kelsey has far more
number ones than Marin does, but Kelsey does. All three
of them kind of have a pop lean to them,

(04:50):
So it's not cool to vote for the pop lean,
except when you look back in history and Johnny Cash
also the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame and was
all over but you get it. Um. I think Luke
Holmbs wins that though my prediction to about Luke Combs
is this year, maybe next year he has all that
crosses over into pop as well, just because he's gonna
be so big that it's just naturally gonna roll over
into it more so than they're gonna chase it. I

(05:12):
saw a couple of NBA players on a boat singing
Luke Holmbs on TikTok. I see him a lot on
tick lukems Um, Female Artist of the Year Kelsey, Miranda, Maron,
Casey and Carry tough. One to pick Carries out for
Entertainer of the Year, be weird if she didn't win
Female of the Year. I'm gonna go with Carrie. I
think I picked Carrie m I picked Carrie and Carrie

(05:36):
wins both double Yeah, Duo with the Year, Brooks and
Dunne Brothers, Osborne, Dan and Shay, Florida, Georgia, Line, Maddie
and Tay. I picked Dan and Shay, Dan and Sha win.
Not even close walking away. Dan. She win twice. She
needs to get too awards. Uh. They just are breaking
every record. Um, I'll say this to f gl's kind
of being. They haven't had a ton of success. Their

(05:58):
last record, their last record and sell that well in comparison,
but there was massive. They don't get the credit that
I feel they deserve because they don't fit that exact
mold of what people feel like a country artist should be.
They have a song now with a pop girl who
I heard on a pop station the other day. I
don't know what it is. It feels like the b

(06:18):
REXI song again. But hey man, whatever works, and they
did justin Bieber. Yummy. I don't know that I love that,
but I like to say try stuff. I like that
they're out just doing their own thing. Um so, but
Dan and Jay win this award. Group of the Year Lady,
a little big town Midland, Old Dominion, the High Women.
Old Dominion wins that one, no problem, they should, they will.
That's a that's just that's just a one person race

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because you have Old Dominion, who's that top tier from
last year, follow up closely in the second tiers Lady
and a little big town around the same and then
they kind of that third tiers Midland and High Women,
and that that voting. So I think Old Dominion wins
that that pretty easily. New Male Artist of the Year
Jordan Davis, Russell Dickerson, Riley Green, Cody Johnson, and Morgan Wallen.
Morgan Wallan wins, he wins, and I think you should win.

(07:03):
New Female Artists of the Year Ingered Andress, Gabby Barrett,
Lindsay l Kaylee Hammock, Tenniel Towns. It's interesting, you know,
I think with the discrepancy ease in hearing people's philosophies
about women on the radio and what they do versus
what they say they do. A lot of stuff happened
in there. There weren't there wasn't that the success on

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radio with these five female artists there were with the
dude artists. A little harder to cap this one. Gabby
Barrett so new, Lindsay did have a number one with
Brantley has a new song, um Kaylee hit the twenties,
I think before song fell out to you. That's a
tough one. I think that probably And again the record

(07:55):
label voting, the block voting is gonna get this one
is what's gonna affect this one. I think the person
with the highest song is Ingrid, except for Lindsay's do
It with Brantley, but that wasn't her song. It was
Brantley song that she was on. I think that Ingrid
wins this one. She's so new, though, I think Ingrid.

(08:19):
I'd probably give it to Lindsay, but I think Ingrid
wins it. Also, I'm a bit biased because I know
Lindsay super well, obviously, but I'd be cool Lindsey one
that that that's a tough one. That's a tough one.
That's a tough one to pick. Um. I think that's
all I'm gonna do as far as the awards, right,
I don't want to do the Song of the Year

(08:40):
ten tho hours Dan and Shaint Bieber. I don't think
it wins because Bieber's on it. I think that keeps
some people from voting for it, even though it broke
every record. But to be fair, you have a bunch
of Biber people streaming the song too, not just Dan
and Shay fans, which does taint the numbers a bit.
It's been the number one song Country Billboard for like
ten million weeks. That's because mostly or somewhat the Justin

(09:01):
Bieber people tracking that, and it got to go to
pop because Bieber was on it earlier. Uh. You have
Gar going nowhere, Ashton McBride, God's Country, Blake Shelton, One
Man Band, Old Dominion some of it, Eric Church. What
Church gets the cool vote? Um, I'm gonna go Old Dominion,
One Man Band wins and they should win. There you

(09:21):
go at the end. Songwriter of the Year. I'm gonna
read these. Ashley Gorley, we have a podcast with him.
Check that out. Shane mcinally, we have a podcast with him.
On this Bobbycast. Check that out. Josh Osborne, we have
one with him. So three of the five we have
we have podcasts with you can hear about great songwriters.
Hardy and Hillary Lindsay we do not. They're the other
two out for it. So congrats to everybody. For get

(09:44):
the nomination. It's a cool thing and you get to
go on Instagram be like how was nominated, and that's
really cool. Sometimes it's more about just getting the nomination
to be able to talk about it for three months
more so than the actual award, because two days after
the award, nobody cares. Then we've moved on to the
c m A or the CMT or the BBL or
the guy come from. So listen. It's really cool for everybody.
The goal is make music and be able to live

(10:07):
your life doing something you love. The goal is just
that anyway, for anyone doing their job period, like, find
a job you'd like, be able to do it and
love it, and be able to pay the bill. So
congratulations to everybody. Super cool. Um, all right, I think
we're gonna get into this show now. Thank you guys
for checking out the podcast and share it with your
friends who love music. You know, we um we do

(10:28):
this show at least once a week. We try to
mix it up. It is mostly music based. You can
check out Amy's podcast Four Things with Amy Brown, Faith, Health, Lifestyle.
It's super cool. Velvet's Edge with Kelly Henderson. Now me,
I'm not super into the like she has a chakra
guy on, like the chakras. I know some people that

(10:51):
are into that stuff, like yoga, parts of the body
that react the spiritual part. That's not my jam, but
some people love it. If that's your jam, because she's
very into that. Check that out. It's called The Velvet's
Edge with Kelly Henderson. The Velvet's Edge. And then Caroline
Hobby just did a live podcast and you know, she
talks to a lot of really strong women and does
a lot of the wives and even girlfriends of country stars,

(11:14):
and she did a lot of podcast with Kane Brown's
wife and Jason Aldan's wife, Brittany Aldan and Caitlin Brown.
Check that out too. I don't know if it's up yet,
but it'll be up soon. It's a Caroline Hobby Get
Real with Caroline Hoy. Thank you, UM, that's the deal.
Thank you guys. Enjoyed the podcast. Give us good reviews.
If you don't mind it moves us on up. We

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appreciate that. Tell your friends goodbye, everybody, Welcome to episode
to nine with John Langston, who I'll tell you how
you kind of popped up into my world is I was,
by the way, hello, we were just talking beforehand. I
just forget I need to reintroduce everybody on this. Um.

(11:56):
This was when iTunes was still a big thing. That's
even a year and a half. It's I mean, now,
there's every service has their own strength. But you would
put out a song a year, year and a half
or so ago, and I didn't know who you were
at the time, and I was like, first of all,
I went to Number one Country, which I was watching
because I like to watch and see not just what
people are playing on the radio, because I kind of

(12:18):
consider myself one foot in radio one foot out, because
I can bring things from outer radio and put it
on radio. And I saw your number one on the
country chart, and I was like, all right, I'm not
sure this guy is. But then it went number one
on the freaking pop chart, and I was like, all
I should know who this guy is. And that's how
it was introduced to you. So but I haven't met
you until today, so it's nice to me. So let's

(12:38):
talk about that for a second. What what what song
was that when it comes to loving you? Okay, this
song comes out, so explain to me as someone who
at the time wasn't keen on John Langston. How does
this song blow up like it did? What do you
credit that too? Man? I think it was over the years,

(13:00):
you know, just hitting the road hard and just creating
a really you know, a fan base from my college
days and stuff, people coming out these small bars and
stuff and spreading the word in that way. And I've
been sticking with me since those years. And uh my
team did an incredible job getting the getting the word
out that weekend release. I think we hit our emails

(13:24):
and and every single social media. I think we sent
out thousands and thousands of d ms just like hey
the songs here, go get it, you know, go buy
it whatever, and uh man, it was just it was crazy.
It was I mean, I remember just waking up and
seeing it hit that it hit number one on all genre,
and I was just like, is this real? Like this
is crazy? Did you have it crazy? Because I'll just

(13:46):
use political polls. An example, sometimes under these polls don't
go what we expect this person to win, and or
a movie number before a weekend, we expect this movie
to do this. Well, did you have any idea when
that song would come out that it would actually do that.
I honestly did not think it would do anything like that.
Like it was. I was so dumbfound is so surprised,
So just like this is crazy, like I was just

(14:08):
I didn't know how to react at the time. But
I knew the song was special. I knew it was
something very different from what I was doing. It was
very different songwriting wise, and the sound was different, and
you know, it was very bluesy and very just a
different take and who I am as an artist, and
it was just it was a big reach, you know,
to get out there and put this song out. And

(14:29):
I knew it was gonna cause some kind of you know,
people go oh man, what is this? I like this
song or whatever, But I didn't know it was gonna
create that much of a splash. It's such a splash
that again people were hitting me up, going, hey, you
know much about John Linkston because again, it just kind
of ripped through everything which is and I think giving
your team credits cool, But you can have the greatest

(14:50):
team in the world if you don't have the people
don't have anything, right, Like, it seems like you have
a very dedicated bas and I kind of want to
walk back from that because your story is you have
been rinding it so hard on the road and being
the guy who built fans by really one small club
and bar ad time. Yeah you So let's go back
to college. We went to school where Gardner Webb University.

(15:10):
It's a little small, little D one double a school
in North Carolina. Did you go to school and plan
to do music the whole time or were you Were
you playing ball? I was playing ball. I went up
there on a scholarship to play football, and I got hurt.
You know, I had too many concussions and uh uh,
they said I couldn't fight anymore. So you have too
many concussions. Yeah, had six of them. What position do
you play? Fullback? In linebacker? Oh, that's a that's a

(15:33):
spot to get the concussion. It was. It was rough,
and my last concussion, it was the scariest day of
my life. Like I literally went blind for like twenty
minutes and you remember it like I I remember getting
hit and like pice. It was like coming off my
fifth one and did all the protocols. You know, it's
like two months since I practiced, and it was the

(15:54):
middle of the season. I was ready to get back
out there and trying to finish out this junior year.
And uh, first drill back, first one inside drill, just bad.
I was all excited. So I was the first one
up to go and then bam. I just felt on
my knees. I could feel my eyes were open. I
couldn't but you could feel your eyes were open, but
I could just you know, when like you close your

(16:14):
eyes and you can see like shapes and stuff. That's
what it felt like. That's what I all I could.
That's all I could see. And I was just screaming
and just like crying because I thought I just hit
myself blind forever And you remember this vividly. Oh yeah,
Like it wasn't because I've been had my concussion before that.
I was like knocked out and like I like came
to and like was calling the quarterback a different name

(16:36):
and he's like, my name is Chandler. I was like,
oh it was this it's a scary thing, man, like
those concussions, those head head trauma injuries or nothing. Played
around with six of them. Why after like three, John,
do you go back? Because I'm gonna tell you're you're right,
you know, I mean, I'm going to give you a
real weenie story about me. So I played high school

(16:57):
football only and and I took a knee, and I
played wide receiver a little bit of slot, but even
the slot was too inside for me. I was like,
I'm not trying to be I'm not trying to go
across the middle. I'm not trying to do anything, just
down the on the edges because I don't want to
get hit. I hate to get a hit. I had
no interest. I would only play defense when it was
nickel or dime package only, and I played in the
very bag. I was the safety safety, no interest and

(17:18):
get it. Hit didn't like it, and so I just
no no interest whatsoever. I had decent hands and adequate speed,
so I could catch the but I didn't want to
play on the inside. So I plan on the outside.
And I um coaches like, all right, since you can catch,
you're gonna return points. Because our punt returning went down
and at the time, it was just catch the point
and get a few yards and that's it. Just just

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just don't bobble the point. Just don't lose the point.
So that's all right. So balls up in the air,
and I'm like, only corrapt here it comes and and
there's a lot of time do you return to point.
There's a lot of time to think. There's a lot
of time to think, yeah, people are just you can't
really look at the people, but you can feel them coming.
So the balls up in there and I'm like, oh
how about this? Oh my god. And so I go

(18:01):
put my hands out and I remember the ball bounced
off my hands, just like it's not supposed to under
the ground. So I'm like, all right, well i gotta
jump on it now. And I jump into the pile
and I take a knee to the head, only just
a knee of the head. And I remember getting up
and seeing the yard marker turn it from one to three,
and I went right then I went, I'm not doing
this again, like I want to keep playing ball. But

(18:22):
there's I'm not getting my head. No, I get it.
That wasn't even concussion. That's probably just getting hit after
like your second or third one, like like what are
your folks saying? I mean, I mean it was it
wasn't all in like a year, you know, so that
it was like I had one in eighth grade, one
in like tenth grade and won my senior year, and
then it was like, you know, three in college. So

(18:43):
it was like a total of six and banner of
like ten years. And did you have a you have
a football scholar show. I can understand a little bit too,
because again scary because you want to finish out school
and you want to do all that so and you
want to have school paid for. Like I grew up broke.
If someone was like, take a few concussions and you'd
be a good football player, I'd probably done it. So
I retracted about thirty percent of I hate towards keep
playing with concussions, but not all of it. But yeah,

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that's your sixth one. You open your eyes, you can't see.
You thought maybe you were blind? I thought I was
at that time. I was scary, and so what do
they what do they take you? So I wonder the er, like,
you know, I finally came back like twenty minutes later.
Is it a slow comeback or yeah? It was like, really,
it was like really slow and I just gradually, you know,
I felt like it was like came out of like

(19:27):
you know, the pool or something waters in my eye,
Like that's how it felt, and slowly came back and
you know, I was like, but I knew right then.
I was like, I looked at Kevin. My trainer said,
I'm done. That's You're like, it's only been six I
think wish would be we should be conservative and colity
here before. So we had a meeting with the doctors,
my coaches, and trainer, and we all were like, yeah,

(19:48):
this is it. So were you playing music at the time,
even somewhat? I mean, I've always loved, you know, just
getting out my guitar, playing the two three chords that
I knew and like the one song that I knew
and I had like guitar lessons when I was like
eight grade. But it wasn't nothing you want playing bars.
He wasn't playing bars. I wasn't like writing songs yet.
So so then what do you do, because you go,

(20:10):
all right, if football is not my thing, because you're
a guy that needs a thing. Yeah, if football is
not your thing, how do you decide it's music and
not like archery or like really, how do you decide that?
Always was a fan of songwriting really and like Red
Akins was a huge like like I loved his songs
and you know followed him for years and what he
was doing and and so excuse me, and uh man,

(20:33):
I just you know, I needed, like you said, I
need a new passion like and and I played every
year football since I was six years old. I needed
something else to go chase a new a new dream,
a new goal to chase a because that's what my
whole life has been, just chasing goals that I've set
out and um, and when I started writing songs, it

(20:54):
felt that void of you know, chasing a new dream,
chasing a new goal. And when I was, you know,
trying to learn how to play songs and trying to
learn how to do covers and posting them on the internet,
and it was just for fun. It was just something
to get me through that tough time where I didn't
know what I was gonna do in my life. So
that's how it started. Then for you is that your

(21:14):
home or in the dorm or wherever you are, and
you just put them on the internet. Yeah, and so
Were you getting positive feedback from this? Yeah, it was.
It was getting like, hey, but that's pretty good. I
like that song and a song called Forever Girl that
I posted. This is John Langston Forever Girl from two
thousand and fifteen. Look how good we are these notes? Man?
This was thirteen. Was it? Look how bad we are
with these notes? No? It's good. No, we know. Two

(21:35):
thousand and fifteen, I re released it as a steak.
Here's forever Girl girl. So you put this up on YouTube?
So I put it up as a just acoustic, just
me and a guitar in my room and uh. I
hit up my buddy Josh Manuel, who's uh had a

(21:55):
basement studio in Atlanta and he was like doing like
demo sessions and stuff. I was like, hey, man, I
got a song I want to come record. It's like sure,
So over Christmas break went there recorded the song. I
literally had to google how to put a song up
on iTunes and stuff, and you know, that's how it happened.
And I just put it up, put it on YouTube,
and they started creating a buzz in the Southeast and

(22:16):
Georgia and like the you know where I would go.
And then I started playing gigs, and what does that mean?
Created a buzz? I think if for everybody it's a
different definition. So what does it mean for you? You
post a show on YouTube? Does it just organically get
I just remember it's seeing getting shared all over Facebook.

(22:36):
So the sharing was was what was happening on Facebook?
Oh that's cool. So you upload the video of you
in the studio or playing in your room with no
sort of microphone. They're trying to picture this, so you're
just in your room playing it into the computer, computer
recording you. So it's getting shared all over and you go,
maybe something to this, Maybe I should go out. And

(22:57):
then my buddy who I wanted to UM high school.
He was a friend with a bartender and Athens Georgia
bar Kaaljenko. He said, hey, you know they want you
to come play like twenty minutes before this other acoustic set.
I said, I never played before, So sure and played
that and fifteen and my buddies showed up. We had
a blast, and you know, we got a free bar tab.

(23:19):
It was cool. It's fun. That was your pay for
your person free bar tab. Yeah, it was awesome, And
I just remember my parents were there, like everyone like
my uncle was there. You know. It was cool. It
was just like people were singing the song, you know.
But it wasn't until about a month later after I
released a song on iTunes that Uh, I get a
call from my buddy at Kennesaw State and he's like, hey, man,

(23:39):
we got a frat party. Uh, Chase Rice is playing.
We want you to open full band. Here's your time.
We can't pay you nothing, but we got plenty of
beer for you. I said, I've never played a full
band in my life. Like, so I called up my
buddy Josh in the studio and I said, hey, you
wanna do you want to put a band together? We
gotta play a gig like to my are. So we

(24:00):
stayed up all night put a band together. Literally just
practiced a bunch of cover songs, and when the next
day played it, we were terrible, but it was awesome.
We had a great time. You played a bunch of
covers and you played Forever Girl. So the last song
we played Forever Girl, did anybody sing it back? They know?
So this is when this was like my moment where
I just knew this is what I want to do

(24:20):
for the rest of my life, Like there's eight hundred
college kids. They're just like party and have good time,
you know. But when I started playing Forever Girl, they
knew every single word and they were screaming as loud
as I can. I was just like blown away, and
I was just like this, okay, this is what I
want to do for the rest of my life. I
just I'll never forget that feelings sitting there here and
did you to finish the school? Okay, so you're moved music.

(24:41):
You're like, I know what I want to do and
it doesn't involve whever I'm studying. What were you studying?
I was doing criminology and sociology. Who needs that? Yeah?
That trying to do music over here? So you were
inside your junior year or so you were, So you
decide you're gonna do music. Now. Are your parents still around? Yeah? Okay,

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so did you have to have the conversation with them.
I'm gonna get out of school. And I remember telling
my mom, you know, when I got off stage, and
you know, I was like, I know what I'm gonna do.
I'm gonna move to Nashville'm gonna write songs. She's like, okay,
like hopefully you'll finished school and that didn't happen. So
but they were so supportive. And when I said, you know,
I'm not gonna finish school right now, I'm gonna go
to chase this thing, I thought they were gonna do

(25:24):
the typical parent thing. No, you're gonna finish, You're gonna
do this. But so I wasn't gonna go home and
I wasn't gonna do anymore school. So I've never even
been in Nashville before. Scariest day and I just like
looked up at cheap, you know, place in Bellevue to
go rent out a little apartment and started out and
packed up the dog and came home. That's almost what

(25:45):
I did too. When I moved here, I don't know
that I had ever been here. I had a job
that was waiting. They were like, hey, moved, you know,
do this job. I wanted to move here, but I've
never been here, And I moved to Bellevue with the
dog in a in a tiny rent apartment that was
I lived there for like two months or so. It
was cold, and I went to mos every day because

(26:05):
it was a mose right over where I was living.
And my first memory of Nashville was every day. After
I would go to work, I would come in and
here we'll go to Mose. You ever go to Mose
and they had that machine of Mose with all the
different drinks on it, so you just put your cup down.
You have like nineteen drinks. And although I'm well into
my thirties now, I still I think I made a suicide.

(26:26):
What you got? Just every time my eight year old self. Yeah,
so you moved to Nashville. How many years ago you
come to town? This was two? So may you have
you played a bunch of shows before you moved or
you had to move here and then try it? Was? Well?
I was, so I was while I was in college
that whole year. You know, I was contemplating finishing or

(26:49):
gonna move and I was still doing school. But that's
why I didn't finish because I miss so much class. Um,
So you move here, you decide you're you missed so
much school, so you just like, might as well not
go back to school. All the kids listening, that's the dream, right,
that's the dream. That's the dream. And then did you
move to Nashville to be a songwriter or to be

(27:10):
an artist? In your mind? When I felt what on
stage during that show, I knew I wanted to perform
my songs that I was writing. So I knew I
was like, there was no better feeling than that, and
and I knew right then that I wanted to be
an artist as well too. I'm gonna play some of
this time. So this music here by the bed, see

(27:30):
how the chat right on the rocks that sky wan
to burn? Right girl, Wrong Time from right Girl. Yes,
she was a man about a wrong day. We spend

(27:53):
this a personal song, Right Girl, Wrong Time about you?
Did that girl know you're long about her? Yeah? She
did a little while later. He didn't tell her immediately,
He didn't send to the work tape. What happened with that?
She didn't work out? Didn't work out because I mean
it was you just being up here and just doing it,

(28:15):
and uh, just I just didn't work out. Here is
probably at a bar. I'm probably at a bar contraying
Mary Traving this song My god I got anyway when
it comes to loving you, Because when it comes to

(28:36):
loving you, yeah, my walls phones and touch The single
right now currently the top forty number thirty seven, Look
before you came in. Congrats on that. That's thank you
first of all, to get a chart, to get a
song even worked by a record level, they only have
so many spots. It's it's money that all that. But

(28:59):
then to break out that sixties and fifties mush that
everybody sits in for a while, it's a big deal.
This is currently number thirty seven. This is now, you know,
be drinking every Friday. Your new sounds about the small
town in that sundown town sound school from logan Bill, Georgia.

(29:22):
What's what's Loganville like? And it's blown up? Now, it's
blown up. It's blown up. I went, I was there.
I drove through there the other day and it's just
like new restaurants everywhere, new neighborhoods everywhere. It's crazy how
many people live in Loganville. And I think eight thousand now,
so still a small town. It's still small town. But
like I mean, it was like back in the day.

(29:44):
Do they have an applebee though? Oh yeah, because when
we got an apple I'm from a town of seven hundred,
but Hot Springs was town. Like when you go to town,
you drive to Hot Springs. That's where Walmart was. Sore.
I think that's for a lot of people to grow
up in small towns in the country. Walmart is the
is the edge just when you no you're getting to
town and outside. When they built Applebee's on the edge
of Walmart, I was like, now we're living when they

(30:09):
built that applebee that was pretty pumped about that. Loganville, Georgia.
Did you go to like the school in Loganville? I
went to Grayson High School, so you know, like you're
talking about, I grow up like in the Grayson area,
which is like and then Loganville was like the bigger town.
You know. It was Luke. I tell you why I
reached out to you to bring you up was I

(30:29):
was having dinner with Luke and Luke and I never
talked business ever, but I asked him. I was like, hey,
I know John, like you're part of John's dealing. So
what do you like about John. It wasn't like is
he any good? Obviously, Luke Brian thinks you're good if
he is invested in you, and he goes he said,
I won't do the impression. But he was like, you know,

(30:51):
he said, there's a lot of people in Nashville that
are good, he goes, but there are only a few
that work really hard that just grind it out. And
Luke was a grinder back in the day. And so
when he said that, he was like, you know, I
just haven't seen like people with the hustle like John hustles.
And so I was like, you know, that's the kind

(31:11):
of guy I want to bring up here. And that's
that was what made this connection, was just sitting eat
dinner with Luke and him going, you know, John works
really hard. Because I'm somebody was like, I don't have
a lot of talent, but nobody's gonna outwork me, exactly,
and so and and even Carrie, your manager, was saying
the same thing. She was like, I just am so

(31:31):
invested in the guy that puts his heart and just
there's so many clubs and so many bars and just
shows up night after night, which made that song when
it popped so big, which made that a think where
it is the people, you know, it is the people
that you're seeing all the time out there that no
I mean, I feel like, you know, going back to
the football thing, you know, I was I was not

(31:52):
the tallest, you know, I wasn't the the fastest, strongest guy,
but like I wanted what I wanted to go get
setting those goals. And I wanted to go get a
scholarship to go play football in college. And I set
out on it, and you know, a lot of people
doubted me. A lot of people, you know, you know,
you know on paper, you know I should you know,
shouldn't go play it? Do you want in school? But
like I just you know the things I learned from football,

(32:15):
you know, working hard, waking up, go to practice, uh
discipline and you know, going to weight room when the
others weren't going. It's the same thing. And you know
music like are you gonna wake up and and go
write that song when you know when someone else is
in or you're gonna write the song that someone else?
You know, it's the same type of mentality. And I
feel I feel like that's helped me in in this grind.

(32:37):
Whenever you move here, do you ever reach out to Rhet?
You said, Rhet? Was that so? Two months after I moved,
I can still show you the d M on Twitter
and said, hall at me, Rhett. And I'm sitting there
in tin roof, had a few beers. I'm like, oh
my god, but they have a winder in the picture
or is it just it was no. It was like
at first, I think it's like, you know, one of
those fake accounts, and I see the blue check and

(32:58):
I see just how lapped me in his number, and
I'm like, oh my god, look look at my buddies.
I'm like, what do I do. They're like, don't call
him right now? And so I called him next day
and we talked forever and uh, you know when over
his house, we had a beer and just told him
my goals and told him, you know, my story, play
him a few songs I was working on. And he's like, man,
I want to help you, you know, I want to

(33:19):
show you how this works and everything, but I'm not
gonna help you if you don't you know, you're not
gonna put into this, if you're gonna half asked this,
like I'm not gonna help you like I want you.
And I think that's what instilled to me when I
moved to town, like Okay, this is real. This is
what I It's either balls of the walls or I'm
this ain't gonna happen. So um. I feel like that
meeting really helped set the tone when I move to

(33:41):
town because I knew right then I was like man,
I got somebody who's gonna take a chance on me,
and I cannot let them down. And he vousked me
to get a publishing deal. Yeah, and so then you
start to get paid right songs, which great, pay your
rent right eat for working on your crash, yeah, like
which is which is a real thing. Um. The story
that I heard about you as you opened for Luke

(34:02):
Brian on the farm tours seen which was a bit
of a full circle moment because I guess you had
been to one of Luke's farm tour shows and and
and watched it from the crowd a few years earlier. Yeah,
I was in the crowd and hanging out and with
my buddies and Athens, and I was like, man, I
would love to be on that stage one day, Like

(34:22):
this is such a cool environment. And I got the
opportunity and I was out there and it was a
full circle moment. It was really cool. And Luke's kind
of been a mentor to you a bit, huh. Definitely.
I saw the video where he came and surprised you.
I guess you were in the recording studio and he
was like, yeah, we're at a music row and my
producers office writing and the door opens up. He's got

(34:43):
a ball of champagne carries like we gotta celebrating to do,
and he's like, you got a record deal, you know.
And I'm just like, you know because a week before,
you know, you know, we had a meeting and and
Luke brought me into Universal to me to see Dugan
all those eyes, and they said, and Luke said, go
down and see the show. Just go see it, just

(35:05):
go see it. So he's like, go take my plane
and go see it. Like whatever it takes, just go
see it. So they came down and saw the show,
and I didn't hear nothing for a week. So I'm
like I blew it. I blew it, Like I was like,
this was my chance. And so I'm devastated for like
a week, texting Carry every day, like calling her like hey,
do you hear anything Universal reach out yet? And no, no,

(35:27):
no you're not yet. And then when that door opened up,
but I saw them, I was like like it was like, man,
it was such a rewarding moment, man, because like I
worked so hard and and me and my guys, my
team and everyone just like have been the years and
just getting in that van and just going and and
riding every every single day and just trying to do
the best. We Cannon and to see that loocal Brian

(35:48):
with a balls champagne and face saying you got a
record deal. It was like the greatest day fun fact
of your grandma being related to Johnny Cash true or false?
That's true. Your grandma was ranted to Johnny Cash house,
so so it was her second or third cousin ors thing.
I had to look at what we my uncle and
my mom they literally hired a yeah, and she did

(36:14):
like this whole family book history of like the past
like two d years or something, and it was crazy
and there was like playing a think you know right there,
your grandma Johnny Cash, second cousin. Yeah. Yeah. It was
like because it was a rumor in our family forever
and ever. You know, of course I'm like, yeah, right,

(36:34):
because I'm not gonna be like, oh, yeah, I'm related
to Johnny Cash, you know, like I'm not gonna until
I had proof. And there there was that's still a
far enough distance stuff that if you wanted to date
Johnny Cash you could. When you say yeah, like that's
that's far enough for have you guys hit it off?
You can still date and I don't think the light
So you know, probably tough now, yeah, probably tough. Probably tough.

(36:58):
A lot of you Georgia, A lot of you Georgia
guys are you know, obnoxiously passionate about the bulldogs. And
I'm an sec guy. I'm a rockinsall guy. But but
you know, it comes to mind it's Cole Swindel your
friends with Cale. Yeah, because you're from Georgia. Do you
bind on that? Or where you guys? Boys at all?
So he actually saw back when I was doing like
covers on YouTube, he saw him. He saw my Beer

(37:21):
in the Headlights cover that he wrote that Luke recorded,
and so that how was it? In call? This was
back in two thousand and thirteen. He was doing a
show at Cowdi Jose in Chlotte, North Carolina. That week.
He's like, hey, man, I love to meet you. He
gave me take us to his show. You got to
meet him hung out. It was awesome, like we were
been friends and ever since then. The other annoying Georgia guys,

(37:43):
And by the way I say it in a loving
way is Travis Denning. Oh my gosh, who's super FoST
I love it Trapp is like one of my best
friends and you know, but yeah, he's one of them
Georgia Bulldog fans like Traps. Shut up, like, come on,
make us a little bit. Travis. Travis sawesome because Travis
is Uh. We had a Christmas party and I just

(38:04):
called Trivis, like, dude, I'll give you like three hundred bucks,
come up here and play for thirty And he shows
up with a guitar hard and set up on the
thing down in the living room and it was me,
you know, our show, and nobody you played too. Yeah,
And then we had guest hosts this last weekend this
week on the radio show, so I had Travis come
in and just be a guest like I guess, not
even an interview, just be a guest host for a while. Um. Yeah,
Travis a good dude. He's a lot. He's a good

(38:28):
dude though. He's awesome and I love to drink beer
with him. He's a man. On Instagram John Lankston followers
for someone that doesn't have a smash yet, that's substantial
Like that just shows the grassroots movement happening there. So
you're going to Detroit, What's what's happening in the next
few months, any think kind of on the horizon you're

(38:48):
looking forward to. Yeah, we're getting back in the studio
doing another session hopefully cut five or six. Yeah, yeah,
and touring wise, you just out all the time that
the goals. What man, this was? You know, we're not
stopping the train, you know, just keep feeding it. My
grandma said, dance with the girl that brought you so exactly,
keep you here. They're keeping us busy and we ain't stopping,

(39:09):
you know. We We're out with Morgan Wallen right now. Um,
having a blast doing that. Um uh. We had a
little break. We staw it out January second, so it
was like Chris break bamn, back to it real quick.
So it's been awesome, you know, doing our own little
headline thing until we're back out with more than in
the middle of March, and then do that in April
beginning by and then festival season maybe yeah, festival seasons.

(39:33):
It's fun. It's fun there because we're I'm doing a
bunch of fairs, a couple of festivals. The good thing
is they pay well more than they probably should, right
because they're just paying you to come out and entertain
of who knows how many people are gonna show up.
That's if it's fair. We're having a fair. They need
to say we have all these people playing. The bad
news about it is a lot of times stage is

(39:55):
crappy and the sound is crappy, and so you just
kind of go. You just gotta g do you do?
You just go listen? And I'm not winning any awards
from my musicality anyway. But the festival season is fine
because you get to also hang out with a bunch
of your friends who you don't normally get to hang
out with when when it's professional time. So you get
to do your music and have your fun while also

(40:15):
there's nine busses in the back of faster horses and
you're back there with everybody just hanging. That's one of
my favorite festivals ever. Have you played it? Yeah? It's great,
huh awesome. Yeah. Um. He does those festivals so wonderfully
that and we have a podcast with with Yeah we
do um that he you like to play those for?

(40:37):
He doesn't. He knows what he's doing and he's a
great friend. Brian O'Connell is just the man when he
comes to put a festival together. Well, listen, man, I've
enjoyed talking with you. I admire that you are someone
who just puts his head down and go not to
get head down and get concussions, but puts his head
down and just goes to work. And you know it eventually,
for people that don't stop working, you see the rewards.

(41:01):
Sometimes it takes like I get irritated because I'm busting
my tail and I'm like, what's what? Where? Where is it?
The one thing that I've learned is that people can't
stop you from working hard. They make it stop you
from other things. They make it tell you're not good
at this now, they make it tell you the door
is not open now. But they can't stop you from
banging your head against it and keep working. So you
don't need my encouragement, but I encourage you. Just keep
doing what you're doing that got you here. With me,

(41:22):
I was like, I love someone that'll just show up
and do the work. And so yeah, do the deal man.
Congratulations on everything. I hope when I look at the
chart in a few weeks at thirty sevens at thirty
one and three, and let's go songs about how small
John Langston, all right, we're now I gonna talk about

(41:50):
famous bandmates who hated each other with my bandmate from
The Raging Idiots, Eddie, You sure, I don't think. I
don't know that we could have even moderately been annoyed
with each other and kept doing it. Because there's only
two of us. We're really not making that much money.
I feel like we just love doing it, so that's
why we do it. But yeah, if if we hated
each other, we would just stop. Yeah. I feel like

(42:12):
if we weren't really good friends, I would have just
went solo. Oh wow, nice, thank you. So you just
kept me on because I'm a friend. No, I would
have just done a stand up comedy the guitar on.
I don't know. There's something about the music stuff that
we do that people just love. And it's weird how
we were what were received really well, Like when we
play together, people will love us and we love them

(42:36):
no matter what we do with each other. You mean,
we can just go up there and I mean look
at what we Look what we used to do. We
used to play in restaurants for thirty people, bad parodies. Yeah, Mike,
they would they would we walk into a rib joint,
you know, and they would just move all the tables
and like, all right, this is where you play. Sometimes
people would come, some say wouldn't and then smash cut.
We play for two people of night now or festivals. Um,

(42:58):
and we're not that good. Our band is really good.
I should say I'm not that good of a singer,
but our songs are really funny. Now we've definitely gotten
a lot better in our content is super funny. It's
a really fun. I would be proud of people to
come to the show now. At one point I'd be like, no,
we're just having fun with people, And now I think
we're really entertaining people. Um, like the of the Target

(43:18):
song Mike on our latest shopping and Target we khaki
pantsing a red shirt on, don't go shopping and Target
we khaki pansing a red polo shirt on. So it's
fun and we've gotten good and we're getting way funnier.

(43:40):
Did you ever get annoyed with me or anything? Like,
just while we've been doing late that was trying to leave,
he must be late, let's just go. That was New Orleans. Yeah,
it was like he wants to be late, be dispectful,
just go, I tell the driver and dropps. I don't
know what to dude. It was just in the suit.
He's like, dude, her was get down here right now.

(44:01):
We're gonna leave. Famous bandmates who hated each other pump up.
Some of the biggest bands and people in the band
could not stand each other. Some of them were able
to stay together, some weren't. And so every band on here,
from Oasis to CCR, all great music, at some point,
all hated each other. Some stay together, some didn't. And

(44:22):
you know, sometimes I will say, if you're in a
band with someone for so long, just the natural human
of people, you grow apart. You grow, you have different interests,
you have different reasons for staying in the band or
or not staying in the band, or different friend group.
It just as the natural evolution of human beings. You
have different friends that you're twenty that you do. So

(44:43):
that being said, we'll start with Aerosmith. Who hated who?
What two people in arrows with hitted each other? I
mean it would be Joe Perry and Steve Steve lead
singer and guitar player. Here's the clip of Aerosmith. If
you want to and do they still hit each other?
I think they they They're back to let's just do music.

(45:05):
But the basic issue was that Joe Perry was in
it for the music and Steven Tyler was in it
for the fame and the women. I don't know, it
didn't matter to me. It's like, guys, you're making good
music either way, right, I mean, it's just don't don't
worry what whatever everyone's in in it for, Like, just
do it. Joe Perry once told him just because we're

(45:26):
a band together doesn't mean we have to be friends.
Who that's tough though, told be that close all the
time and not be friends. Well, and I did see
even when they played the Grammys. You can kind of tell,
like like Joe Perry would be annoyed with Steven Tyler
just their demeanor on stage. And I didn't really forgot
about this. I remember reading about it a long time ago,
but I forgot that they hate each other. And I
saw it when I saw the Grammys. Well, now the

(45:47):
keyboard is like once in the band and they wouldn't
let him in it anymore. But again, they're like a
hundred Oasis. Here's a clup of Oasis. I played this
c D until my CD player smoked, really of exhaustion.

(46:07):
What's the story Morning Glory. Yeah, it's good stuff. Man.
Man who hated to Oh I think Noel hated Liam
because Liam was a slacker or something. Well they're only
two of them, so they hated each other. Um, but
they always fought since I remember them. Yeah, I mean
it's it's a brother's thing, you know, Like me and
my brother fought all the time. I have four boys
at the house right now, three of them fighting NonStop,

(46:29):
and the other one is a baby. So so if
he's old enough, he'll fight too. That's just what brothers do. Yeah,
but do you get in a band, it isn't an
overarching love over the fighting, and if you're gonna it
just seems I think it's easier to fight if you're
in a band together as brothers because but then you
start making money, and yet you have to get along
for your lengevitdy, your career, your finances. They didn't give

(46:49):
an f They really didn't know. They used lots of
controlled substances, had lots of bad shows, and one show
Liam hitt Noel with a tambour. Noel quit the next
day You're re going rejoined the group. Um, they were
gonna ump record of empty emptb on plug. Excuse me.
Liam claimed to have laryngitis, so no one had to

(47:10):
sing all the solos, which wasn't what I'm saying. Just
annoyed with the dude, like you're just messing us up.
Rather than head to home to rest his voice, Liam
said in the balcony where he drank and heckled the
band through the whole set. I remember this. Liam refused
to America with the band, once again, forcing Noel to
sing something that he believes ruin the band's chances for
stardom in America. In two thousand, Liam allegedly question whether

(47:33):
Noel was actually the father of his oldest daughter. No
quick the band, So it's Noel quit in the band
all the time? You noticed that. I think you just
gets tired of Liam's crap every single time, and they're like,
all right, fine, let's get back together. Guns and Roses
Actel hated all the guys. Wow. Really, Guns and Roses
problems beginning the early nineties. Now again, this is later

(47:55):
on for Guns and Roses because they were an eighties
band for the most this would be um illusion, illusion,
lose or use? Did you say maybe you lose? I
don't know. I don't know. Um, nobody knew why Axel
and Slash hatted each other. It seemed like they were
just having creative differences. According to Guns and Roses, old

(48:19):
Road manager, the feud can be boiled down to Michael Jackson.
In an interview with Rolling Stone, Doug gold Scene revealed
that after Slash agreed to play guitar on Michael Jackson's
Black or White actually got piste. Axel was allegedly molested
by his father as a child, and even though Jackson
had yet to be investigative for child molestation, rumors were flying,
and Axel believe the rumors. Then, when Slash reportedly admitted

(48:42):
he was getting paid with a flat screen TV, the
devastated rose the relationship went bad. They shut it down.
It was the college football You got paid with a TV?
I don't know, dude. Yeah, but the payola scandal of
radio of two thousand one, I never heard that story. Excellent,
slash Bury the hatchet recently or the reunion toryly kicked

(49:02):
off in and they're playing now again. They're probably just
like we can use the money. The Eagles they're not
on this list, I don't think. Then the list they
don't talk. They just come out before the John walk
out together. That's just unbelievable to me. Um, you guys
are just like that though. Van Halen, oh, big time.
They they hate all their singers. It was it was

(49:23):
brothers versus everyone else because Eddie van Halen and Alex
van Halen they were they were the brothers of the
van and they just hated everyone else and if it
wasn't their way, it would be like, sorry, you're out.
But they think The weird thing was they weren't the
stars of the group. No, they weren't, And so you
don't get your way if you're not the star of
the group of whatever the situation. There's a star, the
star gets away, the star leaves the David Lee Roth

(49:45):
and Sammy Hagar eras the two lead singers, by the way,
they were more there was the guy from the Extreme
I forgot about that time. Um, so you know they
both got into a big time that massive, massive hits. Yeah,
and you know it's probably always awkward for the basis,
who's all just like all right, whatever, guys, let's just play.
Nobody showed up for the Rock and Roll Hall of

(50:05):
Fame induction ceremony, but Sammy Hagar and um Anthony is
he the keys player, He's the basis. He's the basis
bass player m who later went on to found Chicken
Foot Together, which is Sammy Hagar's man. I only know
that because Howard Starne show and they want to play
chicken fot so here we go. Eddie Van Halen heavily
criticized Anthony after firing later the same year. Something Hagar

(50:28):
never got over anyway, Who cares? Do you like their music?
Before me? Oh? I love Van Helen. This is my
brother listened to it all the time. I never never
got into it here on classic rock, never in pop
because a little ahead of me, do not have anybody
giving it to me. Uh. Simon and Garfuncle, they hit
at each other. That's tough, man. You're a duo like

(50:50):
you know bands. I get it whatever, but they're duo.
They create, and gosh, it's gonna be tough. Paul Simon
wrote songs. Garfuncle was the front guy because Paul Simon
was too shy to sing and they did not like
each other. After a while, Simon and Garfuncle bridge over
trouble Water the Boxer at the Rock and Roll Induction

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but they still got at each other. Garfuncle said he'd
created a monster, while Simon took credit for having quote
enriched garf Funcle's life quite a bit. Wow, Man's two.
There's that power struggle. Here's a hate quote. I regret
at the ending of our friendship, and I hope that
one day before we die well able to make peace
with each other. Then he added, no, rush who said that,

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garlf uncle? That is Paul Simon. Here's a clip of
Simon and Garfuncle. Go right, let's move over to kiss

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Geene Simon and Paul Stanley hate Ace Freely and Peter
Chris Jean Simmons. What would I say, Simon, I don't know, dude. Yes, yeah,
this is the one time I get to correct you
at this point. Yes. Stanley and Simmons took a part
in a very public dispute over which contributors would go
into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame power struggle.
They had already had a bunch of controversy because they

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allowed people to dress up like Chris and Ace and
they really weren't them. Because you put the paint on
the people, you would never know. Simmons pointly thanked every
other Kiss member passed and present. Meanwhile, Chris took his
own shot. I want to say, in and out of makeup,
I'll always be the catman. It's never a kiss guy
for me. I like rock and roll all night and

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then I like that song from They have a slow
song about it with a girl's name. They sang it
in that Paul rud movie. Uh I Love you man? No? Yeah,
maybe what's the pull up a role model? Maybe their
music where they use all kiss music. Yeah, play, look

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at the playlist and kiss. So it's a girl's name. Yeah,
it's like a Manda or roset bath. That's it. Yeah.
I like this one here you calling? Yeah, but I

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can't come home. I think he sings us to her
in the movie Me and the Bars are playing um
to Creatence, clear Water Revival, everything. But he hates John Fogarty.
Oh he was the dude. Here is that clep the CCR.

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Imagine it's hard when you're a band and your lead
singer just starts getting more famous than everyone else. Don't
be hard for the band, John, focus on my first
concerts ever. Play Please put me in coach. I'm ready
to play. That's so good, Damn. I love CCR. We
did uh in high school our band we played CCR

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songs at the high school talent show. This is the
Concubine Kings. Well it moved around it. Yeah, what was
this the early Raging, Well, it was all that was
the same people, different names. We tried once to go
be there as we were the Concubine Kings, which concubine
is prostitute the Bible days. Yeah, and so we went
to church as and played at church as the Concubine Kings,

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not really know, probably wasn't the thing to do. No
one looked up the definition. Not really. They were like
the talking about concubines in the Bible. We're like the
concubine Kings. Come on. And then we did a song,
you know, because I'm bad at the bone. We did
but there's golden above, Pardy put your hands out. Yeah
we did. The Beach Boys, Oh yeah. Brian Wilson and

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Mike Love hated each other, and Mike Love is basically
the leader of it now. Brian Wilson even the Beach
Boys anymore, and an and I read recently that he
was I think Brian Wilson was trying to get everyone
to boycott. Yeah, because they they're playing in the hunting
log that's right, that's right, Yes, like a big hunting lodge,

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which you always think Brian Wilson doesn't care about anything
and never hear from Brian Wilson other than just music stuff.
But he's just like, no, do not go. He agreed
to play this show. One he's not the Beach Boys,
and two don't go support that Smashing Pumpkins. Yeah, I
get it. Yeah, it's kind of annoying. Yeah. The Ramons, Oh,

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they all hate each other. Joey and Johnny hated each other.
Do you wanna something dumb? I never knew their last
names weren't romans. I thought they were all brothers. I
don't think that's dumb. Though they look the same. Yeah,
I thought so their name is right. I was like,
cool man, what did you think when they started swapping
out members and you got more family and didn't realize
they swapped out members? Kings of Leon? Oh yeah, that

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documentary is crazy. Have you seen that one? They all
hitted each other. Yeah, that one's nuts because the documentary
starts with the lead singer just sitting on a front
porch starting opening up a bottle of liquor opening up
and at the end of the towards the end of
the documentary, he's just wasted, and that's what a lot
of this has gout, alcohol issues and soide. He starts crying,

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talking about the band and getting really emotional, and they're like, yeah,
well there you go. Well bands are humans, Yeah, no, absolutely,
and you keep them together and force them together and
make them work together in a supposed to be a
creative space and some person's gotta take the lead and
other people are gonna agree with it. They're money and creativity.

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It's just a lot you imagine too, like the cheating
going on, especially if there's not a defined leader. Yes,
if there's not an a salute defined leader, this is
the person, then there's a lot of that because right
or wrong, the leader's leader until he's not good enough
be the leader anymore and gets replaced, dies, the band
goes away. You know, if there's not a defined this

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person is making the decisions, you start to see if
people are all equals, you can start to fight over
whose ideas what? And wouldn't you agree that every band fights.
Any group people fight, they start together, Yeah, not just
every band, Yes, yes, I agree to that. Yes, but
if you just took us through you met you, Mike,
D and Joe who's doing a video over there, fight,

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and you put us together every day and made us
travel the world and actually we're gonna be together. So
like my D and I've got into it before and
he's the nicest guy in the world. Well, we just
don't talk. Don't talk, No, we don't talk anyway. It's
just like it happens and then the end um. But yeah,
all right, that is uh that that was an interesting segment.