Bobby first talks to Brandon Ray about his song “Born For This” which he wrote for his project called Outskrts. He then talks to Lauren Alaina about her new EP and her writing new love and break up songs. Bobby also talks about artist who found success later in their career. From Chris Stapleton, Sheryl Crow, Alan Jackson and more!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
M are. Welcome to episode to thirty two. We're gonna
talk about a few different things coming up. We'll get
with Lauren Elena. She has a new EP that's out
called Getting Good. She's in l A right now and
probably in the back of a car. We'll also talk
about musicians who made it later in life. You know,
I think most of us assume people are teenagers or
young twenties before they blow up and make it a
(00:22):
lot of them aren't one of them with sixty five
and they're super famous and they didn't make ITTI sixty five.
So we'll get into that. You know. There's also another
part of music that is called SINC music, and I
actually want to play this song. This is from a
band called out Skirts. Mike, if you play some of this,
this is called born for this, digging off gloves. I've
(00:43):
had enough. It's in my blood this do you know things?
This's Mike. Yeah. Brandon Ray is the lead singer of
out Skirts as well. Brandon, are you guys even a
real band or is this just for sinc? Alright, though,
we we started writing for TV film and Sync, and
(01:05):
you know, we wrote about twenty to thirty songs for
whether it was for commercials or whatever. But we kind
of landed on this sound, this hype rock sound for
you know, different promos, sports promos and everything. And we
started writing one and we wrote two. Then it turned
into ten songs that started getting placed on TV. And
(01:27):
so explain to our audience what a SYNC song is. So, uh,
sync is short for synchronization. UM. Basically a song that
is sync to a TV show or a moving picture
you know, which is you know, a commercial or TV
show or movie. Uh. And there's things there's different kinds
(01:49):
of sinks. TV film that's whatever you would see inside
of a TV show, uh, or a or a movie.
And then there is add an add placement, which is
any commercial radio or TV. And so this song here,
which by the way, dude, I love this song. This
(02:09):
might be one of my favorite songs you've ever put
out because it's kind of the hype jam. Like it's
like if you like imagine dragons, which I do. It's
like that kind of white guy football, you know exactly.
It's like if if I'm m m A, that's what
(02:29):
I'm being listening to. There's definitely a need for this,
and even in my playlist, I just actually posted on
my Instagram story and was like, this is my hype
song right now might be played again and Brandon to
hear that through his phone to you, Yeah, dude, this
(02:53):
is a jam. That's a jam And so what was
that put in? So that was NFL Network used that
for all of their super Bowl promos the week of
the super Bowl. That's pretty cool that you get to
see your song and promos for NFL football. It was
will my my wife. It was the first time my
wife actually thought I was cool. And so he's writing
(03:15):
songs for his band, which is bad Land Sons. He's
writing songs for other artists. And now when you write
sing songs for TV or film, do you go on
with that in mind? Yeah, you kind of go in with, Okay,
there's somebody editing a piece of uh film together. You know,
(03:35):
there's somebody putting all this stuff together, so you have
to give them edit marks, like at the end of
a chorus, you know, at the end of that one,
it ends with silence before it goes into the second verse,
just to give an edit mark. Um. And I'm I'm
kind of new to this. It's I've been doing it
about a year. Um. I used to do it ten
years ago in l A when I had a rock band. Um,
(03:58):
so getting back into it is a little bit different.
But man, it's just kind of the same thing like
with with hype rock. With you know, whatever you're doing,
you just gotta give them a hook, uh to either
talk around or build uh build the moving picture around.
Is it called hype rock? I call it. Some people
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call it hype rock, some people call it swagger bomb rock. Um.
We we kind of uh you know, followed in the
footsteps of bands like Imagine Dragons, X Ambassadors the score, um,
you know. And and what's crazy is we came out
with it Friday and we landed like the biggest independent
workout playlist there is. It's called Training Workout Motivation. It's
(04:43):
got like two thousand followers. Um, but yeah, people, people
love to work out for this stuff. And I'm kidding.
I love the song good Man, I got ten morals
than just I think, and I think it's so good.
So see Alex Skirts but without an Eye? Is that
what it is? That's right? Yeah? O U T S
(05:05):
k R T S. And Brandon is actually with his
band bad Land Sons, and so that's the one you
actually exist in Alex Skarts doesn't really exist. But bad
Land Sons is your band that you go out and
you play with, right yeah, so in in in country music.
You know, I had a solo career and decided to
make the move to create a band. And you know,
(05:27):
we've had two songs come out the past two months,
one with Lucy Sylva's called Crowded House and then and
then another we just came out with called Xes And
we're starting to you know, book dates, uh coming up
in the summer, you know, country festivals and all that
kind of stuff. So well, check out bad Land Sons.
I'm a big fan of out Skirts, Scotty, be honest
with you, I think I think I think that song
(05:49):
is that you know, and I haven't heard like the
high products of in a while that you know, it's
like Limp Biscuit without the rapping. There you go, and
and we we both love Limp Biscuits, That's true. I
do love of this kid. And you can make you
can make decent money right in this stuff for TV
and and commercials and stuff like that. You can, you
actually can. And I had no idea until we just
(06:09):
started giving it a shot and getting to know, you
know music supervisors and uh, my publisher at Warner Chapel
has just been phenomenal at connecting us with those people
who would we need to get permission from to use
that song in our podcast. You, I mean you're totally allowed. Yeah,
but you don't own it all, do you? Um? Well yeah,
(06:31):
I I me and Christian Hall, the other guy we
owned the master. So Mike, let's see what that rule
is because I kind of like this song, yeah, as
like a as something I don't know yet, but as
something I can give you. Katie Jones, uh information at
Warner she'll so gladly. All right, we'll follow up on
(06:53):
all right, dude, Brandon Ray Music. Right, that's your instagram,
all right at Brandon Ray Music. Good talk to you,
budd Hey, Hey, you guys, have a good day and
check out out Skirts and and bad Land Sons. All right,
there's Brandon Ray. Um. Before before we came on, we
played that song again. You don't feel it? Huh, let
me play it again. The gloves I've had away from
the very beginning, it's that's the whole vibe. I'm into this.
(07:21):
If you didn't know when you think this was like
like you're walking to the tunnel. You have to watch
the game. It sounds like like the song on like
a Madden Manji. Yeah, that's exactly, Yes, perfect run to
the ring. Then the dog sider ring the bell and
it's town Mano digging off the gloves. I've had enough.
(07:43):
It's in my blood. I was born for this. I
was down for this. It was cookie catchy. I don't
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know why I love it. I don't guess checking out outskirts.
That's called born for this. We're gonna get into the
rest of the podcast in a second. What's cool is
Mike d has a movie podcast. What's the newest one
that went up. I'm talking about musicians who tried out
to be actors. Yeah, whether they succeeded or just kind
of flopped. M okay, did Garth ever act? I know
(08:35):
that Chris Chris Gaines was supposed to be a movie. Yeah,
that was supposed to be like a whole movie thing
and it got shelved. And then there were some roles
that like Twister. Yeah, he was supposedly casting that and
turned it down, so he never actually went and never
went into anything. Now, who would have sucked like justin
to Kelly, were they on on your list because that
(08:58):
that was really just one movie they did. Oh they
need multiple movies. Yeah. I did some with one movies,
but I kind of put them in a different spot.
Britney Spears. Yeah, she did one Crossroads and then the
Good Ones. And I don't know who's on your list here,
but Mark Marky Mark Mark, that's like the biggest one.
He's like a music guy who did movies, Mark Wahlberg,
(09:19):
don't tell me. Hold on who else would be a
music person. It's a really big one. Ludicrous Ludicrous, Yeah,
that's into Furious any anything else? Chris Isaac, But I
guess more TV? Yeah, more TV. I focused on movies.
And then Will Smith. Oh the biggest one. That's the biggest,
biggest one. That's the biggest one. Check out movie Mix
(09:40):
movie podcast Google that search that not Google it just
searching movie Mike's Movie podcast where if you listen to podcasts,
and I'll tell you Caroline Hobby m sorry, my coronavirus
got conat. Caroline Hobby has a podcast called Get Real
with Caroline Hobby. They did a really cool live podcast
where they went out and it was Kane Brown's wife
(10:01):
Caitlin and Jason al Dean's wife and Brittany, and they
did a whole thing. By the way, I us, she
made some pretty good money doing that. Yeah. Nice, good
for her. I know some people were like, she made
money doing that. Good hit it. Go make all the
money you can make. A capitalist have you can make money.
Go make money and hopefully you're able to get back
(10:23):
some to at some point, so you can make money.
Gonna make money. You got you got kids, you got
a husband. I don't know, I'm providing this stands you
got a husband. Um, so yeah, check it out. Check
out Get Real with Caroline Hobby and then The Velvet's
Edge with Kelly Henderson. There's just a lot over on
the network, and I appreciate you guys hanging out. Do
you have the Drake just flipped the switch? So this
(10:47):
is right now at TikTok, and you're seeing a lot
of people. One person in the bathroom right next to
the switch, one person behind him, and they flip the
switch and they come up and they're doing the reverse.
It's been on TikTok, like you four or five months. Yeah,
it's been a while, so much so that I thought
it was gone. Yeah, I went away, and it's like
back again. And now it's back, I guess because j
(11:07):
Lo did it, and right, did she bring it back?
Or they do it because it sell someone else to it.
I think that's the first one I've seen in a while,
so I think it was her. Well, now it's back
and everybody's doing it. It's funny how TikTok now gonna
roll over into the other social media's like everything else,
like Instagram, Twitter, because a lot of people don't have TikTok,
(11:28):
but some people are still trying to do this. Okay, yeah,
I just flipped the switchboy. Look, do you like j
Loo and a Rod or No? Not really me either.
I don't know. I don't really I don't know. I'm
not that interested in him. Do you have any couple
that you like? I like Justin Bieber and Haley Baldwin.
I followed them both on Instagram. Yeah, you're quote to follow.
I think they're interesting. My girlfriend goes to church with them.
(11:52):
I'll tell you that. Yeah, say they're super nice. They
seem pretty danuine on she said Haley is the nicest
person ever, and then Justin's super nice too, and this
like super approachable and Justin like play soccer in the
church soccer team and they just go out and play.
What it sounds like is he's completely inaccessible when he's
a big star Justin Bieber, but when he's normal dude,
he just does normal dude things and nobody bothers him
(12:14):
because they'll just be out at the soccer field where
anybody could go up and Justin O they're just playing
soccer's crazy, and he's just the church where anybody could
get into. Like they don't have rules. You just go
into the church. So it seems like it's two ways.
It's either you can't get to him because he has
tons of security and it's like he's Justin bie with
a superstar, or he's just just in the dude and
he's just not doing normal life things. It's crazy, right, Yeah,
(12:38):
you can just go in there just to be a
great church. See. And I'm I'm like that too, where
I'm just normal Bobby and nobody cares. And there's also
a Normalobby where nobody cares. That's the two. That's the
two things I'm doing always. Um, all right, here you go,
this is um a pretty fun episode. We're kind of
straying together a few cool things with Brandon Lauren and
then artists who didn't make it until they were older
(13:01):
in terms of making it in music and how people
feel and what ages you make it. So check it out.
I appreciate you guys, Thanks for sharing the podcast, thanks
for tagging us on Instagram Instagram story, and I hope
you enjoy it. Here you go, Hey, Hey, what's happening?
Just riding in a car in l A which is
really fun today. I get so car sick. I get
(13:21):
really car sick too when I think about being in
Los Angeles, Like that's the feeling that comes into my
body is sitting in the back of an uber just
wanting to be out of it and nauseous. Yeah, yeah,
that's what's happening to me. What what are you? Where
are you going tonight? I am going to film with
(13:44):
Neil how you say it? That app where you sing
and they get the fans can sing with you. You
know I'm talking about. Yeah, You're going to the place
to sing there I guess their office and filming it. Well.
I wanted to bring you on and talk about your
new EP, which I think first I think we should
(14:07):
do a quick introductory of what exactly an EP versus
an LP is, because I think we throw these letters
out thinking that everybody understands. But until someone explained it
to me, I didn't know the difference. Do you know
what EP versus the LP is? It's A stands for
nice and it's the shorter one, yes, which doesn't make
(14:29):
sense right. Well, But but when you hear LP, which
stands for long play, right, I guess it does make sense.
I guess, yeah, but right if it's just extended play,
it doesn't make a lot of sense. So I am
more of an EP guy whenever it comes to artists
releasing music, because I feel like I need four or
five six songs to digest and really pay attention to
(14:51):
every song. Was that in mind whenever you put out
the EP? Yeah? And I just think people are consuming
music so differently. Now. I just wanted I've been working
on the album for a while and I'm not done
with it. I just wanted to get music out. I
was ready to get some music out. We did the
headlining tour and I sang these six songs on the tour,
and then I realized no one had access to the song.
(15:13):
This is this is not good. So I just wanted
to put it out and get some music out, and
I think people can digest it a little bit better
than twelve songs all at one time. And I'm all
for an album if it's for like my very favorite artist,
right but it's hard for people that aren't the absolute
favorite artists of most people to become that favorite artist.
(15:35):
And if you were to put out twelve fourteen songs
as a new artist or kind of a middle artist,
people are gonna sit. They're not gonna hear a lot
of the songs because they're gonna catch a couple of
them and just go to the next thing. And I
feel like a lot of songs go to waste because
of that. Well, tell me about your favorite song. If
I were to play one of them that you like
the most, my favorite song on the EPs right now?
(15:58):
You can change what is it right now? Somebody else's problem? Oh,
somebody else's problem. That's a good one. Tell me about
that one. It's a breakup song. It's a very fassy
breakup song. And I would say that this song represents
my personality the best. It's kind of sarcastic and you
(16:22):
get assen to who I am When you listen to it,
I think, and I've been through a couple of breakups
in the last few years, so I think it's time
for me to put out a breakup album. Did you
write the song or find the song? Yes, I wrote
the song with Jeff Warburton and Jesse Frazier. And so
when you go into the room to write this song,
(16:42):
was it fresh? Are you gonna say after which breakup?
Or was it kind of an encapsulation. I don't even
know if it matters. Okay, Hey, listen, I gotta ask
the question, Lauren. You go into the room, and what
do you say in the room. Well, I was driving
a Kia Bobby, and I drove my Kia until it
stopped working, and I was like, I think I hold
(17:05):
onto things longer than I should, and I've really got
to learn when it's time to let something go. And
I was just talking about my original idea. I had
that job, like, uh, the idea with the car and
all of that kind of written down in my notes section,
and I was like, I hold onto things longer than
(17:28):
I should, and I had the idea, I'm just time
to treat my heart like that old car, and I'm
gonna let you start being somebody else's problem. And my
original idea, I was going to do a bunch of
different examples, and then when I got in the room
with the guys, they were like, I think we could
just stick to the car theme because it's pretty cool,
and then we did. So we compared love to a
(17:48):
car it's breaking down, you know. It's always interesting to
hear too, like when a song like this comes out,
how long ago was this song written versus how long
did it take for it to come out? Well, that
to answer one of those questions, you don't even want
to say. I bet I could probably go to the
publishing of it. Huh, I won't. I won't, Lawrence, I
wrote it. I don't even know when I wrote it, honestly,
(18:09):
over a year ago. Yeah, tell me about country and Me.
Oh that's my dad. See. That was the other one
I was going to say. It was, Well, that was
my favorite one. That's why I was asking, Okay, maybe
maybe country Me is my favorite. I don't know. I
love them all. I'm really proud of all of them. Um.
Country Me is the love song. It's about and they
(18:29):
love and it's about a guy that reminds you of
where you came from, and I had such a Southern raising,
and I really wanted to tap into that for the
new music. I wanted to bank sure that I gave
a nod to where I came from a little bit
more than maybe on my last album, because I've spent
a lot of time at home in the last couple
(18:51):
of years with my family and friends, and I have
been wanting to write about them, and I was writing
about someone who brings that out and you not about
anyone specifically, really, But whenever you played a bunch of
these new songs at your show, which one did you
feel like got the best reaction night after night new stuff?
Probably somebody else's problem is, I don't know, it's it's
(19:15):
just it's a really good live song. It feels good
you kind of the country and me was good life too,
because you can sway to it. But somebody else's problem
makes you gonna like dance and throw your hands up
and half a good time. So I would say all
of them went over well, though we opened the show
within my veins, so I don't think people really got
to spend a ton of time with that one, you know,
(19:36):
And then um, somebody else's problem was in a prompt
spot and set. I introduced the band on it. I
made I set it up really well and made jokes
about the car reference. So I think, I don't know.
I don't know why. I'm curious about how you put
together a set list. Your first song on your tour.
This last tour was a new song. Yes, oh yes,
(20:03):
and we worked really I worked really really hard on
that set. But we played a video, so I did
that on my headlining tour. I did, um, I did
this video wall behind me and I put together all
this content. So even though it was the first song,
they kind of had already heard from me by the
(20:25):
time they heard the song because it played a video
before it to kind of connect with them. But I
referenced it and it just fit the first segment of
the show. I did the show kind of like a
play and um, I did um. I'm so sorry, we
just got where we were going. There haven't no I'm
(20:47):
gonna just get away from the conversation, okay. So I
felt that they can talk. Do you have to go
to a guard gate? Is that what they're doing. I
don't know what we're doing. We seem to me on
the side of the street. Um, in now Vadora. I
think we're gonna sit in the car for a minute. Yeah,
thank you. Sorry, you know you're good. Um sorry, Bobby, Um. Yeah,
(21:09):
So we put. I did the show kind of like
a play where I had like three acts, and the
first act was where I came from. So I did
in my Veins and like my mother does Georgia Peaces
and all of those songs kind of like the beginning
of my career and where I grew up. So In
my Veins was like the perfect kind of set up
for that. Well before you and then go ahead, and
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then I sprinkled the other ones, you know, throughout the
other segments. So well, let me say this, Lawrence got
a new EP called Getting Good Before you Go. You
will be the backstage announcer at the A c M S,
which is pretty cool. I'm pretty pumped about that. What
exactly will you be doing? So I'm gonna be talking
to people after they win their awards, hanging out with
(21:55):
the artists back stage and kind of giving the fans
of you of what we're what it's like back there,
and I'm excited. I'm gonna be announcing different categories and stuff.
I'm now, were you traveling right now? Are you worried
about coronavirus? Am I worried about the coronavirus? Yes, I
(22:16):
would say, I'm not like overly worried about it because
I feel like it's the flu. It's basically the flu,
except we don't have a shot for it. Right, But
what if they said that everyone's getting the flu, be
super aware of the flu. What don't you still be like,
Holy crap. I don't get to like the real flu.
I don't get the flu. I don't like germs in general.
So I had wet wapes in my purse before the
(22:38):
coronavirus broke out, and I'll have them after it goes away.
All right, Well, don't get sick, wash your hands, and
congratulations on the EP. Lauren, Thank you, Bobby, You're the best.
All right, Lawn, talk to you soon. All right. This
is interesting. These are artists who made it later in life.
(22:59):
Now don't mean like a d I don't mean like
right before they died. But I mean later than you
would think, because it seems like most artists start at
like nine two years old, right early on, not mid
thirties and forties. A little more rare. Yeah, and so
they is big stars too that started way later. For example,
(23:22):
Chris Stapleton, who is now forty one years old, he
really blew up when he turned thirty seven. Christ Apleton
was behind the scenes songwriter in Nashville for over a decade.
He was lead singer in a bluegrass band and a
southern rock band before he released his debut award winning
solo album at age thirty seven. I would encourage you
(23:44):
to go back and listen to the Bobby Catch with
Robert Deaton because Robert Deaton is the producer of the
c m A Awards and talks about how Chris Stapleton
got on the c m A Awards, which this performance
is really what catapulted this song again to blow up,
and then Stableton to do the same thing, but thirty
seven years old when he really hit it as an artist.
(24:07):
Cheryl Crowe thirty two years old. She worked as a
music teacher at a Missouri elementary school. She created commercial
jingles for McDonald's and Toyota served as a backing vocalist
from Michael Jackson in the eighties and really didn't get
cracking on her first album until the early nineties and
nine two, she recorded her first attempt at a self
(24:28):
titled record, but the label said nope, and still though
the album started to be put out, and that was
when file sharing started to really be a thing, or
at least the early stages of people who knew how
to get file sharing could get file sharing, and so
that's when she got some attention. She released her first
official debut album, Tuesday Night Music Club in and became
(24:52):
a breakout success at the age of thirty two years old.
And here you Go, Here's All I Want to Do
and the song I love this record one of my
favorite kid albums. When I was twelve years old, this
was this was it I knew ever saw on it.
I had a CD player and I was like, I'm
so freaking cool. The first CDs that I had though,
(25:15):
where a C D C ball Breaker and Mariah Carey
Butterfly Butterfly, and then I had Cheryl Crowe. The one
that I listened to the most was Hooting the Blowfish
Cracked Review, which I later had to rebuy the cassette
because the car that I bought with a piece of
crap when I would drive it to football practice, so
I had to get a cassette to listen to in
(25:35):
the car. But then I graduated to a CD player
that you would take a cassette that was attached to
the CD and you put the cassette in the cassette
player and it played the CD player that you that
you like taped or gunked the dash and it had
this you put the CD player on it, and CD
players would skip. If you're a kid now and you're
(25:56):
listening to this, you would have a like a walkman
or a discman, and if you like ran with it
and shook, it would just skip to skip. So what
they did is they built these bases and you attached
the base to your dash, but the base would shake.
It allowed for some room much like a like a
(26:17):
a shock. Okay, oh you don't know this, not entirely.
I remember having like just the straight of tape deck
that you would slide in plug into like the audio
jack of a walkman or something. Well, the tape deck
would plug into a discman and you could open it
up and actually play your disks through the car. And
then it got to the point where you didn't want
to hold your discman all the time, so you would
(26:37):
take your discman and you would put it on a base,
and the base had a fixed base underneath it, but
had like shocks on it, so when you hit a bump,
it would just like bounce instead of skip, but it
still skipped like crazy. So I didn't know about the
base thing. By the time I got around to it,
they already had like the anti skip ones. Well, and
you're ten years younger than so you missed it. It
was right when I was. It sounds kind of awful though,
(26:58):
well yes, and no awful now. Back in the day,
it was legit because it was the first attempt to
not have CDs skip whenever you were driving your car,
and fifty percent of the time it worked, and that
was more than it used to be. Also, when they
had Discmond's and they came out, mine was blown because
the Walkman was a big deal and only rich people
(27:20):
had Walkman, only rich people had Discmond. But I then
had my own job, so when I was sixteen, I
was working full time and I could afford a Discman,
and so legit just change the world. And I remember
when one of my friends got a five disc changer. Oh,
I forgot about the CD changer. Could not believe you
could listen to five c ds at the same time.
(27:43):
Are you out of your mind? And you just hit
a button it was skip to the next c D.
I had the seven Mary three Cumbersome, and I had
that disc and I would listen to it. I only
wanted to hear one song, so I had to get
the disc out of the book. Takes the book out,
but the skin and ah hell bick comb combersome, do
(28:06):
my war and then not here it and take it out,
switch it out. But my friend had the same disc
and he would be like, when you're cumbersome, yep, the
disc with the silver chairs CD would move out of
the way and seven Mary three would go right in. Yeah,
it's pretty legit. But that was one of my first CDs,
I would say, one of my first five CDs with
Cheryl Crow Tusy Night Music Club. Alan Jackson, he didn't
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have his first number one song until he was thirty
three years old. He's now sixty one. Growing up, Alan
Jackson was primarily listening to gospel music. When he was
twenty seven, him and his wife moved from Newman to Nashville, Tennessee.
So at seven he thought, I'll go pursued music full time.
Inven he cut an album titled New Traditional Did that
(28:54):
a docts place in Hendersonville Tesse? But it was it's
so rare. It was only released in Japan. I think
about that, Alan Jackson. The only place this was released
was in Japan, which you don't even know. I don't
even know if they like country music over there. I
don't even know more American gospel music today. In eighty nine,
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he released his debut single, Blue Blooded Woman. In late
nineteen um it didn't reach the top forty in the
Hot Country Songs. Don't Rock the Jukebox was the title
of his second album. It was released in nineteen four
number one singles. He also co wrote songs on Randy
Travis album High Lonesome. But Here you Go? Do you
have some Allen Jackson, Here you Go? The name was
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first number one till he was thirty three years old.
It's my heart in off the rules Stop. I don't
feel black rocking? Next up Willie Nelson forty years old.
By the way, now Willie's eighty six. But Willie Nelson
struggled for years as a singer songwriter. Now shielt he
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moved Austin, Texas, started the outlaw country movement. He was
forty when Shotgun Willie came out, which cracked the billboard
Hot one hundred. Here he's gone, well, it's it's around
and it's underwhere so the horns out all. What's funny
is when like when Lady and Bellam R. Tomas put
(30:20):
horns on records in the past few years that any
country that any country who puts horns on country, that's
that country. And John and Johnny Cash and Willie it's
that really that's a trigger for me and people go
that in country. But yeah, so in the documentary did
you watch the Country? Was a documentary, they do a
lot of Willie Nelson talk and you know, Willie didn't
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make it until he was forty. But he was like
a nerdy little songwriter in Nashville, more like a suit
and tie and you know, always down on Broadway. Once
was so disappointed and sad, he just laid the middle
of the street and was like, I'm done. Luckily no
car hit him, but just a nerdy little guy. Then
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he moved moved to Austin to kind of you know,
restarted because it couldn't get anything going to Nashville. That
crazy old Dominion, The whole band and their forties Matt
Ramsey's forty four, Trevor Rosen's forty five. They've been a
band since two thousand seven, but the first hit came
in would break up with him. They were all in
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their late thirties and forties, which I think they're very
appreciative of it now, and they've written a bunch of songs,
a bunch for other people, but you know, they couldn't
make it work as artists. What's crazy is that's a
lot of songwriters is they couldn't make it as artists,
so they end up being really great songwriters. And I
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hate to put anyone in that spot where it's like
they couldn't make it as an artist. But some of
the best songwriters in town, like a Ross Copperman, I
think he came to town. I was trying to be
an artist. I know Ross a little bit. A lot
of those guys were artists in some former fashion early on,
and they didn't make it like, well, I'll write songs too,
and that's really where they thrived. But Old Dominion, the
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guys in their forties. Toby Keith, aged twenty nine. There
was a time in Toby keats early career, where it
was basically a hobby. He was in his late twenties.
He's not with the record label. They were gonna shelve
his first album before his career even had a chance.
At the time, he told himself he did If he
didn't get his big break by thirty, he was gonna
to find work elsewhere. That eleventh our moment came in
(32:31):
the form of an early morning phone called eighteen days
before his thirtieth birthday from a guy Mercury Records named
Harold shed who was interested because so I'll performed after
hearing one of Keats demos. So he produced this sid
with Alabama, kt Oslin, Take Your Headhunters, Glenn Campbell and others.
So he works with them. Toby's about to quit and
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should have been a cowboy became his first number one
in when he was thirty two years old, sho wearing
my six riding my pony on the cabin drive. But
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one of my favorites. We'll move over to Bill Withers.
Give a Bill Weather's clip Ain't No Sunshine when She's
go I think pou propoun my favorite song ever I
knew it is this and stopped Stop This Train, John
Mayor Bill weathers Ain't No Sunshine. Bill Weather spent nine
years serving in the U. S. Navy before moving to
Los Angeles to pursue music. He worked as an assembler
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for several different companies while recording demo tapes with his
own money and performing in clubs at night. He released
his debut album, Just As I Am in nine one,
at the age of thirty four. First record thirty four,
The album features Ain't No Sunshine. When he first debuted
the song, he reportedly refused to resigning from his assembling
(33:57):
job right away because he believed the music and this
was a very fickle industry, which it is, by the way.
Clearly it all worked out. The single help make Bill
Withers the Star? Do you have a Bill Wither's playlist
over there, Mike? Can you pull that up? Pulling up?
And He eventually won a Grammy for Best R and
B Song in nineteen seventy two. But like use Me
(34:19):
is the jam, and I hear a lot of great
covers that people doing use me. Come on, don't make
you cover this right now? Like a country artist, one
of these guys with like some soul. I think Darius
and who do. He did a cover of this in
the last ten years or so. Sad News It is
(34:45):
this good. Getting you like gets so annoyed when the
Peloton writers sing along with the songs, they'll just be
sitting there with that headset on and it'll be like
nineties rock and they're singing every freaking word. I don't
want to hear you sing Peloton instructure, just pedal, just
to the same motivational things. Run the class. That's one
girl just well now it's like classic rock. She sings
(35:07):
every song like we're watching a concert, like a Peloton
instructor concert. I'm a fifty three weeks in a row
now though now it's a lot. Yeah, I'm pretty proud
of myself. To Chains the rapper, he didn't get a
big break till thirty four years old. Yeah, I'm Deffer,
I'm before he was to change. He was titty Boy.
(35:28):
He changed it to more family friendly name. In two
thousand eleven, and thirty four years old, he released his
seventh mixtape, True Religion, first one to make it on
Billboard charts two Chains Now but Everybody's forty two. But yeah,
when he was titty Boy, couldn't get any worth really
at two chains thirty four, he could Louis Armstrong and
(35:51):
Louis is super famous. Now you'll know this song here.
Maybe you won't know this song, but you'll know who
it is. But he was sixty four years old. What
do you? What do you else from? Do you have
a see children cry? I watched them girl, But the
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Hello Dolly was from his album when he was sixty
four years old. You probably know him from this, but
he was sixty four when he hits. Died at sixty nine,
so he didn't even get to hold onto that fan
for very, very long. Michael Fitzpatrick of Fits in the Tantrums,
he had been working primarily as a recording engineer for
years when he's forming the group. He was forty years
(36:35):
old when they released their debut album with their song
Money Grabbers. He's now forty nine years old. I didn't
know he was at old, did you, Yeah? I knew
he was older. It's kind of a blunt, like the
white hair kind of going, But yeah, I see him,
but I thought it was kind of a a stage thing.
I think they died it. Rachel Platten, she was thirty
(36:58):
four years old when she released the find song EP
which had this song on it. She's not thirty eight,
but here's one for you. Farrell had a rule big
career as a producer Neptunes. He wrote and produced I'm
a Slave for You for Brittany and he would have
just died a producer that made it, he said, But
(37:21):
he was forty years old when Happy was released. He's
forty six now, but a song has been out six years.
It still looks like he's twenty. Yeah. And then finally
Sea Sea worked as a backup singer for a lot
of groups, including Jamir Kuai and the zero Seven's, which
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is the English group, and didn't released an album under
her own name. It wasn't until she was forty one
years old that she got her first number one single, Chandelier.
(38:06):
Isn't that No? I don't know this is true or not.
Why does she cover her face? I think she didn't
want to associate her sound with anything, so she wanted
just to be like blank. She shows her face now, yeah,
she shows, but now when you performed phil on stage,
she always has the wig covering cover your face. The
(38:26):
radio show cover my Face. That's a bunch of musicians
who made it later in life. So I thought that
was pretty cool. Don't forget. You can follow Lauren at
Lauren Elena on Instagram. Always good to talk to her
and you, guys, please rate us, review us, and write
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was gonna come on. She got sick and she was like,
I'll still come over. Like, no that I forward you
to the video. She said me, No, I didn't see it.
I can play it at least some of it. I don't.
I know Spred doesn't play all of it. I'm sending
(39:15):
you this in a video forum so you can hear me.
I'm a little ill, and yeah I heard it, and
she was like, I'll come over and do it Bobby
cast with you later, which I'm down to do. But
I'm giving you the auction to opt out if you
don't want this all up in your space, so let
me know I'm down either way. UM, just so hollow
(39:41):
it at her and I was like, you stay home.
I don't need that to get Corona right now. That's
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I appreciate you guys. We'll talk to you soon.
M are. Welcome to episode to thirty two. We're gonna
talk about a few different things coming up. We'll get
with Lauren Elena. She has a new EP that's out
called Getting Good. She's in l A right now and
probably in the back of a car. We'll also talk
about musicians who made it later in life. You know,
I think most of us assume people are teenagers or
young twenties before they blow up and make it a
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lot of them aren't one of them with sixty five
and they're super famous and they didn't make ITTI sixty five.
So we'll get into that. You know. There's also another
part of music that is called SINC music, and I
actually want to play this song. This is from a
band called out Skirts. Mike, if you play some of this,
this is called born for this, digging off gloves. I've
(00:43):
had enough. It's in my blood this do you know things?
This's Mike. Yeah. Brandon Ray is the lead singer of
out Skirts as well. Brandon, are you guys even a
real band or is this just for sinc? Alright, though,
we we started writing for TV film and Sync, and
(01:05):
you know, we wrote about twenty to thirty songs for
whether it was for commercials or whatever. But we kind
of landed on this sound, this hype rock sound for
you know, different promos, sports promos and everything. And we
started writing one and we wrote two. Then it turned
into ten songs that started getting placed on TV. And
(01:27):
so explain to our audience what a SYNC song is. So, uh,
sync is short for synchronization. UM. Basically a song that
is sync to a TV show or a moving picture
you know, which is you know, a commercial or TV
show or movie. Uh. And there's things there's different kinds
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of sinks. TV film that's whatever you would see inside
of a TV show, uh, or a or a movie.
And then there is add an add placement, which is
any commercial radio or TV. And so this song here,
which by the way, dude, I love this song. This
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might be one of my favorite songs you've ever put
out because it's kind of the hype jam. Like it's
like if you like imagine dragons, which I do. It's
like that kind of white guy football, you know exactly.
It's like if if I'm m m A, that's what
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I'm being listening to. There's definitely a need for this,
and even in my playlist, I just actually posted on
my Instagram story and was like, this is my hype
song right now might be played again and Brandon to
hear that through his phone to you, Yeah, dude, this
(02:53):
is a jam. That's a jam And so what was
that put in? So that was NFL Network used that
for all of their super Bowl promos the week of
the super Bowl. That's pretty cool that you get to
see your song and promos for NFL football. It was
will my my wife. It was the first time my
wife actually thought I was cool. And so he's writing
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songs for his band, which is bad Land Sons. He's
writing songs for other artists. And now when you write
sing songs for TV or film, do you go on
with that in mind? Yeah, you kind of go in with, Okay,
there's somebody editing a piece of uh film together. You know,
(03:35):
there's somebody putting all this stuff together, so you have
to give them edit marks, like at the end of
a chorus, you know, at the end of that one,
it ends with silence before it goes into the second verse,
just to give an edit mark. Um. And I'm I'm
kind of new to this. It's I've been doing it
about a year. Um. I used to do it ten
years ago in l A when I had a rock band. Um,
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so getting back into it is a little bit different.
But man, it's just kind of the same thing like
with with hype rock. With you know, whatever you're doing,
you just gotta give them a hook, uh to either
talk around or build uh build the moving picture around.
Is it called hype rock? I call it. Some people
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call it hype rock, some people call it swagger bomb rock. Um.
We we kind of uh you know, followed in the
footsteps of bands like Imagine Dragons, X Ambassadors the score, um,
you know. And and what's crazy is we came out
with it Friday and we landed like the biggest independent
workout playlist there is. It's called Training Workout Motivation. It's
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got like two thousand followers. Um, but yeah, people, people
love to work out for this stuff. And I'm kidding.
I love the song good Man, I got ten morals
than just I think, and I think it's so good.
So see Alex Skirts but without an Eye? Is that
what it is? That's right? Yeah? O U T S
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k R T S. And Brandon is actually with his
band bad Land Sons, and so that's the one you
actually exist in Alex Skarts doesn't really exist. But bad
Land Sons is your band that you go out and
you play with, right yeah, so in in in country music.
You know, I had a solo career and decided to
make the move to create a band. And you know,
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we've had two songs come out the past two months,
one with Lucy Sylva's called Crowded House and then and
then another we just came out with called Xes And
we're starting to you know, book dates, uh coming up
in the summer, you know, country festivals and all that
kind of stuff. So well, check out bad Land Sons.
I'm a big fan of out Skirts, Scotty, be honest
with you, I think I think I think that song
(05:49):
is that you know, and I haven't heard like the
high products of in a while that you know, it's
like Limp Biscuit without the rapping. There you go, and
and we we both love Limp Biscuits, That's true. I
do love of this kid. And you can make you
can make decent money right in this stuff for TV
and and commercials and stuff like that. You can, you
actually can. And I had no idea until we just
(06:09):
started giving it a shot and getting to know, you
know music supervisors and uh, my publisher at Warner Chapel
has just been phenomenal at connecting us with those people
who would we need to get permission from to use
that song in our podcast. You, I mean you're totally allowed. Yeah,
but you don't own it all, do you? Um? Well yeah,
(06:31):
I I me and Christian Hall, the other guy we
owned the master. So Mike, let's see what that rule
is because I kind of like this song, yeah, as
like a as something I don't know yet, but as
something I can give you. Katie Jones, uh information at
Warner she'll so gladly. All right, we'll follow up on
(06:53):
all right, dude, Brandon Ray Music. Right, that's your instagram,
all right at Brandon Ray Music. Good talk to you,
budd Hey, Hey, you guys, have a good day and
check out out Skirts and and bad Land Sons. All right,
there's Brandon Ray. Um. Before before we came on, we
played that song again. You don't feel it? Huh, let
me play it again. The gloves I've had away from
the very beginning, it's that's the whole vibe. I'm into this.
(07:21):
If you didn't know when you think this was like
like you're walking to the tunnel. You have to watch
the game. It sounds like like the song on like
a Madden Manji. Yeah, that's exactly, Yes, perfect run to
the ring. Then the dog sider ring the bell and
it's town Mano digging off the gloves. I've had enough.
(07:43):
It's in my blood. I was born for this. I
was down for this. It was cookie catchy. I don't
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know why I love it. I don't guess checking out outskirts.
That's called born for this. We're gonna get into the
rest of the podcast in a second. What's cool is
Mike d has a movie podcast. What's the newest one
that went up. I'm talking about musicians who tried out
to be actors. Yeah, whether they succeeded or just kind
of flopped. M okay, did Garth ever act? I know
(08:35):
that Chris Chris Gaines was supposed to be a movie. Yeah,
that was supposed to be like a whole movie thing
and it got shelved. And then there were some roles
that like Twister. Yeah, he was supposedly casting that and
turned it down, so he never actually went and never
went into anything. Now, who would have sucked like justin
to Kelly, were they on on your list because that
(08:58):
that was really just one movie they did. Oh they
need multiple movies. Yeah. I did some with one movies,
but I kind of put them in a different spot.
Britney Spears. Yeah, she did one Crossroads and then the
Good Ones. And I don't know who's on your list here,
but Mark Marky Mark Mark, that's like the biggest one.
He's like a music guy who did movies, Mark Wahlberg,
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don't tell me. Hold on who else would be a
music person. It's a really big one. Ludicrous Ludicrous, Yeah,
that's into Furious any anything else? Chris Isaac, But I
guess more TV? Yeah, more TV. I focused on movies.
And then Will Smith. Oh the biggest one. That's the biggest,
biggest one. That's the biggest one. Check out movie Mix
(09:40):
movie podcast Google that search that not Google it just
searching movie Mike's Movie podcast where if you listen to podcasts,
and I'll tell you Caroline Hobby m sorry, my coronavirus
got conat. Caroline Hobby has a podcast called Get Real
with Caroline Hobby. They did a really cool live podcast
where they went out and it was Kane Brown's wife
(10:01):
Caitlin and Jason al Dean's wife and Brittany, and they
did a whole thing. By the way, I us, she
made some pretty good money doing that. Yeah. Nice, good
for her. I know some people were like, she made
money doing that. Good hit it. Go make all the
money you can make. A capitalist have you can make money.
Go make money and hopefully you're able to get back
(10:23):
some to at some point, so you can make money.
Gonna make money. You got you got kids, you got
a husband. I don't know, I'm providing this stands you
got a husband. Um, so yeah, check it out. Check
out Get Real with Caroline Hobby and then The Velvet's
Edge with Kelly Henderson. There's just a lot over on
the network, and I appreciate you guys hanging out. Do
you have the Drake just flipped the switch? So this
(10:47):
is right now at TikTok, and you're seeing a lot
of people. One person in the bathroom right next to
the switch, one person behind him, and they flip the
switch and they come up and they're doing the reverse.
It's been on TikTok, like you four or five months. Yeah,
it's been a while, so much so that I thought
it was gone. Yeah, I went away, and it's like
back again. And now it's back, I guess because j
(11:07):
Lo did it, and right, did she bring it back?
Or they do it because it sell someone else to it.
I think that's the first one I've seen in a while,
so I think it was her. Well, now it's back
and everybody's doing it. It's funny how TikTok now gonna
roll over into the other social media's like everything else,
like Instagram, Twitter, because a lot of people don't have TikTok,
(11:28):
but some people are still trying to do this. Okay, yeah,
I just flipped the switchboy. Look, do you like j
Loo and a Rod or No? Not really me either.
I don't know. I don't really I don't know. I'm
not that interested in him. Do you have any couple
that you like? I like Justin Bieber and Haley Baldwin.
I followed them both on Instagram. Yeah, you're quote to follow.
I think they're interesting. My girlfriend goes to church with them.
(11:52):
I'll tell you that. Yeah, say they're super nice. They
seem pretty danuine on she said Haley is the nicest
person ever, and then Justin's super nice too, and this
like super approachable and Justin like play soccer in the
church soccer team and they just go out and play.
What it sounds like is he's completely inaccessible when he's
a big star Justin Bieber, but when he's normal dude,
he just does normal dude things and nobody bothers him
(12:14):
because they'll just be out at the soccer field where
anybody could go up and Justin O they're just playing
soccer's crazy, and he's just the church where anybody could
get into. Like they don't have rules. You just go
into the church. So it seems like it's two ways.
It's either you can't get to him because he has
tons of security and it's like he's Justin bie with
a superstar, or he's just just in the dude and
he's just not doing normal life things. It's crazy, right, Yeah,
(12:38):
you can just go in there just to be a
great church. See. And I'm I'm like that too, where
I'm just normal Bobby and nobody cares. And there's also
a Normalobby where nobody cares. That's the two. That's the
two things I'm doing always. Um, all right, here you go,
this is um a pretty fun episode. We're kind of
straying together a few cool things with Brandon Lauren and
then artists who didn't make it until they were older
(13:01):
in terms of making it in music and how people
feel and what ages you make it. So check it out.
I appreciate you guys, Thanks for sharing the podcast, thanks
for tagging us on Instagram Instagram story, and I hope
you enjoy it. Here you go, Hey, Hey, what's happening?
Just riding in a car in l A which is
really fun today. I get so car sick. I get
(13:21):
really car sick too when I think about being in
Los Angeles, Like that's the feeling that comes into my
body is sitting in the back of an uber just
wanting to be out of it and nauseous. Yeah, yeah,
that's what's happening to me. What what are you? Where
are you going tonight? I am going to film with
(13:44):
Neil how you say it? That app where you sing
and they get the fans can sing with you. You
know I'm talking about. Yeah, You're going to the place
to sing there I guess their office and filming it. Well.
I wanted to bring you on and talk about your
new EP, which I think first I think we should
(14:07):
do a quick introductory of what exactly an EP versus
an LP is, because I think we throw these letters
out thinking that everybody understands. But until someone explained it
to me, I didn't know the difference. Do you know
what EP versus the LP is? It's A stands for
nice and it's the shorter one, yes, which doesn't make
(14:29):
sense right. Well, But but when you hear LP, which
stands for long play, right, I guess it does make sense.
I guess, yeah, but right if it's just extended play,
it doesn't make a lot of sense. So I am
more of an EP guy whenever it comes to artists
releasing music, because I feel like I need four or
five six songs to digest and really pay attention to
(14:51):
every song. Was that in mind whenever you put out
the EP? Yeah? And I just think people are consuming
music so differently. Now. I just wanted I've been working
on the album for a while and I'm not done
with it. I just wanted to get music out. I
was ready to get some music out. We did the
headlining tour and I sang these six songs on the tour,
and then I realized no one had access to the song.
(15:13):
This is this is not good. So I just wanted
to put it out and get some music out, and
I think people can digest it a little bit better
than twelve songs all at one time. And I'm all
for an album if it's for like my very favorite artist,
right but it's hard for people that aren't the absolute
favorite artists of most people to become that favorite artist.
(15:35):
And if you were to put out twelve fourteen songs
as a new artist or kind of a middle artist,
people are gonna sit. They're not gonna hear a lot
of the songs because they're gonna catch a couple of
them and just go to the next thing. And I
feel like a lot of songs go to waste because
of that. Well, tell me about your favorite song. If
I were to play one of them that you like
the most, my favorite song on the EPs right now?
(15:58):
You can change what is it right now? Somebody else's problem? Oh,
somebody else's problem. That's a good one. Tell me about
that one. It's a breakup song. It's a very fassy
breakup song. And I would say that this song represents
my personality the best. It's kind of sarcastic and you
(16:22):
get assen to who I am When you listen to it,
I think, and I've been through a couple of breakups
in the last few years, so I think it's time
for me to put out a breakup album. Did you
write the song or find the song? Yes, I wrote
the song with Jeff Warburton and Jesse Frazier. And so
when you go into the room to write this song,
(16:42):
was it fresh? Are you gonna say after which breakup?
Or was it kind of an encapsulation. I don't even
know if it matters. Okay, Hey, listen, I gotta ask
the question, Lauren. You go into the room, and what
do you say in the room. Well, I was driving
a Kia Bobby, and I drove my Kia until it
stopped working, and I was like, I think I hold
(17:05):
onto things longer than I should, and I've really got
to learn when it's time to let something go. And
I was just talking about my original idea. I had
that job, like, uh, the idea with the car and
all of that kind of written down in my notes section,
and I was like, I hold onto things longer than
(17:28):
I should, and I had the idea, I'm just time
to treat my heart like that old car, and I'm
gonna let you start being somebody else's problem. And my
original idea, I was going to do a bunch of
different examples, and then when I got in the room
with the guys, they were like, I think we could
just stick to the car theme because it's pretty cool,
and then we did. So we compared love to a
(17:48):
car it's breaking down, you know. It's always interesting to
hear too, like when a song like this comes out,
how long ago was this song written versus how long
did it take for it to come out? Well, that
to answer one of those questions, you don't even want
to say. I bet I could probably go to the
publishing of it. Huh, I won't. I won't, Lawrence, I
wrote it. I don't even know when I wrote it, honestly,
(18:09):
over a year ago. Yeah, tell me about country and Me.
Oh that's my dad. See. That was the other one
I was going to say. It was, Well, that was
my favorite one. That's why I was asking, Okay, maybe
maybe country Me is my favorite. I don't know. I
love them all. I'm really proud of all of them. Um.
Country Me is the love song. It's about and they
(18:29):
love and it's about a guy that reminds you of
where you came from, and I had such a Southern raising,
and I really wanted to tap into that for the
new music. I wanted to bank sure that I gave
a nod to where I came from a little bit
more than maybe on my last album, because I've spent
a lot of time at home in the last couple
(18:51):
of years with my family and friends, and I have
been wanting to write about them, and I was writing
about someone who brings that out and you not about
anyone specifically, really, But whenever you played a bunch of
these new songs at your show, which one did you
feel like got the best reaction night after night new stuff?
Probably somebody else's problem is, I don't know, it's it's
(19:15):
just it's a really good live song. It feels good
you kind of the country and me was good life too,
because you can sway to it. But somebody else's problem
makes you gonna like dance and throw your hands up
and half a good time. So I would say all
of them went over well, though we opened the show
within my veins, so I don't think people really got
to spend a ton of time with that one, you know,
(19:36):
And then um, somebody else's problem was in a prompt
spot and set. I introduced the band on it. I
made I set it up really well and made jokes
about the car reference. So I think, I don't know.
I don't know why. I'm curious about how you put
together a set list. Your first song on your tour.
This last tour was a new song. Yes, oh yes,
(20:03):
and we worked really I worked really really hard on
that set. But we played a video, so I did
that on my headlining tour. I did, um, I did
this video wall behind me and I put together all
this content. So even though it was the first song,
they kind of had already heard from me by the
(20:25):
time they heard the song because it played a video
before it to kind of connect with them. But I
referenced it and it just fit the first segment of
the show. I did the show kind of like a
play and um, I did um. I'm so sorry, we
just got where we were going. There haven't no I'm
(20:47):
gonna just get away from the conversation, okay. So I
felt that they can talk. Do you have to go
to a guard gate? Is that what they're doing. I
don't know what we're doing. We seem to me on
the side of the street. Um, in now Vadora. I
think we're gonna sit in the car for a minute. Yeah,
thank you. Sorry, you know you're good. Um sorry, Bobby, Um. Yeah,
(21:09):
So we put. I did the show kind of like
a play where I had like three acts, and the
first act was where I came from. So I did
in my Veins and like my mother does Georgia Peaces
and all of those songs kind of like the beginning
of my career and where I grew up. So In
my Veins was like the perfect kind of set up
for that. Well before you and then go ahead, and
(21:32):
then I sprinkled the other ones, you know, throughout the
other segments. So well, let me say this, Lawrence got
a new EP called Getting Good Before you Go. You
will be the backstage announcer at the A c M S,
which is pretty cool. I'm pretty pumped about that. What
exactly will you be doing? So I'm gonna be talking
to people after they win their awards, hanging out with
(21:55):
the artists back stage and kind of giving the fans
of you of what we're what it's like back there,
and I'm excited. I'm gonna be announcing different categories and stuff.
I'm now, were you traveling right now? Are you worried
about coronavirus? Am I worried about the coronavirus? Yes, I
(22:16):
would say, I'm not like overly worried about it because
I feel like it's the flu. It's basically the flu,
except we don't have a shot for it. Right, But
what if they said that everyone's getting the flu, be
super aware of the flu. What don't you still be like,
Holy crap. I don't get to like the real flu.
I don't get the flu. I don't like germs in general.
So I had wet wapes in my purse before the
(22:38):
coronavirus broke out, and I'll have them after it goes away.
All right, Well, don't get sick, wash your hands, and
congratulations on the EP. Lauren, Thank you, Bobby, You're the best.
All right, Lawn, talk to you soon. All right. This
is interesting. These are artists who made it later in life.
(22:59):
Now don't mean like a d I don't mean like
right before they died. But I mean later than you
would think, because it seems like most artists start at
like nine two years old, right early on, not mid
thirties and forties. A little more rare. Yeah, and so
they is big stars too that started way later. For example,
(23:22):
Chris Stapleton, who is now forty one years old, he
really blew up when he turned thirty seven. Christ Apleton
was behind the scenes songwriter in Nashville for over a decade.
He was lead singer in a bluegrass band and a
southern rock band before he released his debut award winning
solo album at age thirty seven. I would encourage you
(23:44):
to go back and listen to the Bobby Catch with
Robert Deaton because Robert Deaton is the producer of the
c m A Awards and talks about how Chris Stapleton
got on the c m A Awards, which this performance
is really what catapulted this song again to blow up,
and then Stableton to do the same thing, but thirty
seven years old when he really hit it as an artist.
(24:07):
Cheryl Crowe thirty two years old. She worked as a
music teacher at a Missouri elementary school. She created commercial
jingles for McDonald's and Toyota served as a backing vocalist
from Michael Jackson in the eighties and really didn't get
cracking on her first album until the early nineties and
nine two, she recorded her first attempt at a self
(24:28):
titled record, but the label said nope, and still though
the album started to be put out, and that was
when file sharing started to really be a thing, or
at least the early stages of people who knew how
to get file sharing could get file sharing, and so
that's when she got some attention. She released her first
official debut album, Tuesday Night Music Club in and became
(24:52):
a breakout success at the age of thirty two years old.
And here you Go, Here's All I Want to Do
and the song I love this record one of my
favorite kid albums. When I was twelve years old, this
was this was it I knew ever saw on it.
I had a CD player and I was like, I'm
so freaking cool. The first CDs that I had though,
(25:15):
where a C D C ball Breaker and Mariah Carey
Butterfly Butterfly, and then I had Cheryl Crowe. The one
that I listened to the most was Hooting the Blowfish
Cracked Review, which I later had to rebuy the cassette
because the car that I bought with a piece of
crap when I would drive it to football practice, so
I had to get a cassette to listen to in
(25:35):
the car. But then I graduated to a CD player
that you would take a cassette that was attached to
the CD and you put the cassette in the cassette
player and it played the CD player that you that
you like taped or gunked the dash and it had
this you put the CD player on it, and CD
players would skip. If you're a kid now and you're
(25:56):
listening to this, you would have a like a walkman
or a discman, and if you like ran with it
and shook, it would just skip to skip. So what
they did is they built these bases and you attached
the base to your dash, but the base would shake.
It allowed for some room much like a like a
(26:17):
a shock. Okay, oh you don't know this, not entirely.
I remember having like just the straight of tape deck
that you would slide in plug into like the audio
jack of a walkman or something. Well, the tape deck
would plug into a discman and you could open it
up and actually play your disks through the car. And
then it got to the point where you didn't want
to hold your discman all the time, so you would
(26:37):
take your discman and you would put it on a base,
and the base had a fixed base underneath it, but
had like shocks on it, so when you hit a bump,
it would just like bounce instead of skip, but it
still skipped like crazy. So I didn't know about the
base thing. By the time I got around to it,
they already had like the anti skip ones. Well, and
you're ten years younger than so you missed it. It
was right when I was. It sounds kind of awful though,
(26:58):
well yes, and no awful now. Back in the day,
it was legit because it was the first attempt to
not have CDs skip whenever you were driving your car,
and fifty percent of the time it worked, and that
was more than it used to be. Also, when they
had Discmond's and they came out, mine was blown because
the Walkman was a big deal and only rich people
(27:20):
had Walkman, only rich people had Discmond. But I then
had my own job, so when I was sixteen, I
was working full time and I could afford a Discman,
and so legit just change the world. And I remember
when one of my friends got a five disc changer. Oh,
I forgot about the CD changer. Could not believe you
could listen to five c ds at the same time.
(27:43):
Are you out of your mind? And you just hit
a button it was skip to the next c D.
I had the seven Mary three Cumbersome, and I had
that disc and I would listen to it. I only
wanted to hear one song, so I had to get
the disc out of the book. Takes the book out,
but the skin and ah hell bick comb combersome, do
(28:06):
my war and then not here it and take it out,
switch it out. But my friend had the same disc
and he would be like, when you're cumbersome, yep, the
disc with the silver chairs CD would move out of
the way and seven Mary three would go right in. Yeah,
it's pretty legit. But that was one of my first CDs,
I would say, one of my first five CDs with
Cheryl Crow Tusy Night Music Club. Alan Jackson, he didn't
(28:30):
have his first number one song until he was thirty
three years old. He's now sixty one. Growing up, Alan
Jackson was primarily listening to gospel music. When he was
twenty seven, him and his wife moved from Newman to Nashville, Tennessee.
So at seven he thought, I'll go pursued music full time.
Inven he cut an album titled New Traditional Did that
(28:54):
a docts place in Hendersonville Tesse? But it was it's
so rare. It was only released in Japan. I think
about that, Alan Jackson. The only place this was released
was in Japan, which you don't even know. I don't
even know if they like country music over there. I
don't even know more American gospel music today. In eighty nine,
(29:15):
he released his debut single, Blue Blooded Woman. In late
nineteen um it didn't reach the top forty in the
Hot Country Songs. Don't Rock the Jukebox was the title
of his second album. It was released in nineteen four
number one singles. He also co wrote songs on Randy
Travis album High Lonesome. But Here you Go? Do you
have some Allen Jackson, Here you Go? The name was
(29:39):
first number one till he was thirty three years old.
It's my heart in off the rules Stop. I don't
feel black rocking? Next up Willie Nelson forty years old.
By the way, now Willie's eighty six. But Willie Nelson
struggled for years as a singer songwriter. Now shielt he
(30:00):
moved Austin, Texas, started the outlaw country movement. He was
forty when Shotgun Willie came out, which cracked the billboard
Hot one hundred. Here he's gone, well, it's it's around
and it's underwhere so the horns out all. What's funny
is when like when Lady and Bellam R. Tomas put
(30:20):
horns on records in the past few years that any
country that any country who puts horns on country, that's
that country. And John and Johnny Cash and Willie it's
that really that's a trigger for me and people go
that in country. But yeah, so in the documentary did
you watch the Country? Was a documentary, they do a
lot of Willie Nelson talk and you know, Willie didn't
(30:42):
make it until he was forty. But he was like
a nerdy little songwriter in Nashville, more like a suit
and tie and you know, always down on Broadway. Once
was so disappointed and sad, he just laid the middle
of the street and was like, I'm done. Luckily no
car hit him, but just a nerdy little guy. Then
(31:05):
he moved moved to Austin to kind of you know,
restarted because it couldn't get anything going to Nashville. That
crazy old Dominion, The whole band and their forties Matt
Ramsey's forty four, Trevor Rosen's forty five. They've been a
band since two thousand seven, but the first hit came
in would break up with him. They were all in
(31:26):
their late thirties and forties, which I think they're very
appreciative of it now, and they've written a bunch of songs,
a bunch for other people, but you know, they couldn't
make it work as artists. What's crazy is that's a
lot of songwriters is they couldn't make it as artists,
so they end up being really great songwriters. And I
(31:50):
hate to put anyone in that spot where it's like
they couldn't make it as an artist. But some of
the best songwriters in town, like a Ross Copperman, I
think he came to town. I was trying to be
an artist. I know Ross a little bit. A lot
of those guys were artists in some former fashion early on,
and they didn't make it like, well, I'll write songs too,
and that's really where they thrived. But Old Dominion, the
(32:10):
guys in their forties. Toby Keith, aged twenty nine. There
was a time in Toby keats early career, where it
was basically a hobby. He was in his late twenties.
He's not with the record label. They were gonna shelve
his first album before his career even had a chance.
At the time, he told himself he did If he
didn't get his big break by thirty, he was gonna
to find work elsewhere. That eleventh our moment came in
(32:31):
the form of an early morning phone called eighteen days
before his thirtieth birthday from a guy Mercury Records named
Harold shed who was interested because so I'll performed after
hearing one of Keats demos. So he produced this sid
with Alabama, kt Oslin, Take Your Headhunters, Glenn Campbell and others.
So he works with them. Toby's about to quit and
(32:51):
should have been a cowboy became his first number one
in when he was thirty two years old, sho wearing
my six riding my pony on the cabin drive. But
(33:14):
one of my favorites. We'll move over to Bill Withers.
Give a Bill Weather's clip Ain't No Sunshine when She's
go I think pou propoun my favorite song ever I
knew it is this and stopped Stop This Train, John
Mayor Bill weathers Ain't No Sunshine. Bill Weather spent nine
years serving in the U. S. Navy before moving to
Los Angeles to pursue music. He worked as an assembler
(33:37):
for several different companies while recording demo tapes with his
own money and performing in clubs at night. He released
his debut album, Just As I Am in nine one,
at the age of thirty four. First record thirty four,
The album features Ain't No Sunshine. When he first debuted
the song, he reportedly refused to resigning from his assembling
(33:57):
job right away because he believed the music and this
was a very fickle industry, which it is, by the way.
Clearly it all worked out. The single help make Bill
Withers the Star? Do you have a Bill Wither's playlist
over there, Mike? Can you pull that up? Pulling up?
And He eventually won a Grammy for Best R and
B Song in nineteen seventy two. But like use Me
(34:19):
is the jam, and I hear a lot of great
covers that people doing use me. Come on, don't make
you cover this right now? Like a country artist, one
of these guys with like some soul. I think Darius
and who do. He did a cover of this in
the last ten years or so. Sad News It is
(34:45):
this good. Getting you like gets so annoyed when the
Peloton writers sing along with the songs, they'll just be
sitting there with that headset on and it'll be like
nineties rock and they're singing every freaking word. I don't
want to hear you sing Peloton instructure, just pedal, just
to the same motivational things. Run the class. That's one
girl just well now it's like classic rock. She sings
(35:07):
every song like we're watching a concert, like a Peloton
instructor concert. I'm a fifty three weeks in a row
now though now it's a lot. Yeah, I'm pretty proud
of myself. To Chains the rapper, he didn't get a
big break till thirty four years old. Yeah, I'm Deffer,
I'm before he was to change. He was titty Boy.
(35:28):
He changed it to more family friendly name. In two
thousand eleven, and thirty four years old, he released his
seventh mixtape, True Religion, first one to make it on
Billboard charts two Chains Now but Everybody's forty two. But yeah,
when he was titty Boy, couldn't get any worth really
at two chains thirty four, he could Louis Armstrong and
(35:51):
Louis is super famous. Now you'll know this song here.
Maybe you won't know this song, but you'll know who
it is. But he was sixty four years old. What
do you? What do you else from? Do you have
a see children cry? I watched them girl, But the
(36:13):
Hello Dolly was from his album when he was sixty
four years old. You probably know him from this, but
he was sixty four when he hits. Died at sixty nine,
so he didn't even get to hold onto that fan
for very, very long. Michael Fitzpatrick of Fits in the Tantrums,
he had been working primarily as a recording engineer for
years when he's forming the group. He was forty years
(36:35):
old when they released their debut album with their song
Money Grabbers. He's now forty nine years old. I didn't
know he was at old, did you, Yeah? I knew
he was older. It's kind of a blunt, like the
white hair kind of going, But yeah, I see him,
but I thought it was kind of a a stage thing.
I think they died it. Rachel Platten, she was thirty
(36:58):
four years old when she released the find song EP
which had this song on it. She's not thirty eight,
but here's one for you. Farrell had a rule big
career as a producer Neptunes. He wrote and produced I'm
a Slave for You for Brittany and he would have
just died a producer that made it, he said, But
(37:21):
he was forty years old when Happy was released. He's
forty six now, but a song has been out six years.
It still looks like he's twenty. Yeah. And then finally
Sea Sea worked as a backup singer for a lot
of groups, including Jamir Kuai and the zero Seven's, which
(37:42):
is the English group, and didn't released an album under
her own name. It wasn't until she was forty one
years old that she got her first number one single, Chandelier.
(38:06):
Isn't that No? I don't know this is true or not.
Why does she cover her face? I think she didn't
want to associate her sound with anything, so she wanted
just to be like blank. She shows her face now, yeah,
she shows, but now when you performed phil on stage,
she always has the wig covering cover your face. The
(38:26):
radio show cover my Face. That's a bunch of musicians
who made it later in life. So I thought that
was pretty cool. Don't forget. You can follow Lauren at
Lauren Elena on Instagram. Always good to talk to her
and you, guys, please rate us, review us, and write
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(38:49):
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to it. We'll get Kelsey Ballerini on Real soon. She
was gonna come on. She got sick and she was like,
I'll still come over. Like, no that I forward you
to the video. She said me, No, I didn't see it.
I can play it at least some of it. I don't.
I know Spred doesn't play all of it. I'm sending
(39:15):
you this in a video forum so you can hear me.
I'm a little ill, and yeah I heard it, and
she was like, I'll come over and do it Bobby
cast with you later, which I'm down to do. But
I'm giving you the auction to opt out if you
don't want this all up in your space, so let
me know I'm down either way. UM, just so hollow
(39:41):
it at her and I was like, you stay home.
I don't need that to get Corona right now. That's
what's up again. Thank you guys, thanks for listening to
the Bobbycast. Appreciate you guys making a sup a successful
music podcast. So if you have any ideas too, you
should send him over to his d M s. Yeah
we even thought about that, Yeah, at the Bobby Casts
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(40:02):
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