In this episode, we’re talking about some of the biggest feuds in country music. Some of these happened while we were here in Nashville, other were before out time. Plus we’ll also hit on some of the biggest ones in pop, hip-hop and rock music. Some of these you may have forgotten about but were a big deal at the time. We also talk to Matt Jones from Kentucky Sports Radio Quarantine Playlist. He talks about country music from Kentucky and gives his Top 5 songs for your quarantine playlist.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Welcome to the Bobby Cast. Episode to thirty four. We'll
talk about the biggest feuds and music. Matt Jones from
Kentucky Sports Radio starts the Quarantine playlist, and you know,
I think in the next episode we'll do movies about music.
Mike cool, So that will be the next one. That's
for you and Mike get together and share your expertise. No,
(00:26):
he just he does a podcast about movie movies and music,
bringing his favorite three movies about music. Have we done
that with us? No, you guys to talk about some
of your favorites. But we talked about music movies like
biopics because I'm talking about that's what he's gonna do
his Oh yeah, we've done our list. We have all right,
So we have a lot to do this episode. Um,
and by the way, we're Quarantine. We got crap elsa do.
(00:48):
So this could be a two hour long Welcome to
Joe Rogan podcast. He sits there for four hours at
a friend who, by the way, the biggest podcast in
the world. Love it. Think it's he's great. Um, have
a lot of friends that have done his show, and
they're like, you better use about them before you go
because you don't get to leave. So what's the flow
of that podcast? Just constant question after questions? Are they
bouncing off each other? I think, Mike, you want to
(01:10):
answer this to like he talks about things that he
interviews people wonderfully and they also he will talk about
things and bring people in and get their perspective on
what he wants talk about you in the way I
listened to it. I just listened like clips. I never
sit down listen to the full four hours or anything,
but it's cool clips and he talks about cool stuff.
There you go, cool clips and cool stuff, cool stuff.
(01:31):
Let's start with this. Uh, do we need to take
a break before we start this or no? All right,
we've been off from one minute. I need to go
to the rest. You want to take a break. Um,
Zach Brown and Luke Bryan is the first few we're
gonna talk about. I don't know about this one. It
happened right when we came to Nashville. So the Zach
(01:52):
Brown band, lead singer of lead singer of the same name.
Oh it's Zach Brown alright on the lead singer. I'm
just gonna tell you what I was reading a part
of article here. I was just gonna tell I remember
Luke coming in and I didn't know Luke Brian very
well at the time. We were new to Nashville and
being like, oh man, you're gonna ask about that Zach
(02:13):
Brown stuff. And I was like, it just happened, and
I was like, I don't know about Zach Brown's or
I would have um, I didn't, but I think Zach
Brown had insulted Luke's music. So here's a quote. According
to Zach Brown, Luke Bryan's song That's My Kind of
Night is quote the worst song I've ever heard. That's
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that I got that real good. And this is when
we first came to town Room. Zach Brown said, there's
songs out on the radio right now that makes me
ashamed to be in the same format as some other artists.
Jason Alden came to Luke Bryan's defense. To those people
running their mouths, trust me when I tell you that
(02:54):
nobody gives an s what you think. The two eventually
made up at the two CMA words. Carrie Underwood told
the singers they have nothing to fight about. They you
both made great records and you're both millionaires. And then
she's saying why can't we be friends? So she was
the one that, you know, the real weird part about this.
And I am a lot closer to Luke than I
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am Zach, although Zach and I have a relationship ish
I could text him right, Um, quiet guy kind of
stays at everybody's business. But I will say that, you know,
Luke started to make country music with some beats in it.
Was one of those first guys too. You know, you
hear heavy bass, you know, and some of that stuff
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that was called bro country at first. I think it
looks very much off of that now. But I think
Zach Brown has made a bunch of weird music since this.
He did that, but even some of the country stuff
that on the country chart was something. My only point
is there were artists that could have done the same
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thing to Zach three years ago. But like the crap
is this You have a song on contradio with a
dance beat in it. Yeah, I think there's a little
bit of there's definitely a difference between. You know, you
look at the style of songs, uh, content wise, like
lyrically what they're what they're saying, you know, Like you
look at Zach brown music. A lot of his music
is pretty, there's heartful, it's deep stuff in there Highway
(04:20):
twenty ride, you know, even Chicken Fried a little bit,
even Chicken Fried, it's a little death to it, like this,
this is who I am and it is what we
do here from Luke Bryant. But then you got there
there's that's my kind of night, and it's like this
is pretty dumb, but it's fun and there's nothing wrong
first of all with fun music. No, it is everything
music just me all. So I understand the feud and
(04:41):
we're it's stupid. It's there's no feud. Mike pull up
Zack Brown's songs. I like Zach, but he's gonna pick
up random songs. No, but you can. Lukes songs aren't
all goofy songs. Got a few, a lot of them.
But so does Zach. Pull up Zach Brown. What's his
biggest streaming song? It is knee Deep actually Chicken Fried.
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Chicken Fried, so all from that first record, you know,
the one the Brown cover Homegrown Anything and it's not
what's the one with a dance beat that was a
big song. Is someone that I used to know, someone
that I used to know. I don't think this is
the one he hit, a couple hit, the one that
was a big country hit drug. That's it. Oh yes, yes, yes,
(05:25):
very different, Yes, yes, yes yes. My only point is
that sounds putting goofy beats in his crap too. I
don't think it was about the beats, but it doesn't matter.
I don't listen to words. Really melody first, turn it up,
let's why don't we break this? Come on death wish
(05:51):
baby baby. I don't want you to say, and I
don't even hate lyrics. I don't hate it. I'm totally
fine with any of this. But I'm just saying that
same argument about Luke's that's my kind of Night's a
song here at the time though, before Beautiful Drug, Zach
wasn't about this. I don't know what this is. Yeah,
he wasn't, So I'm just saying this is. I understand
where their feud was coming from, where Zach Brown was trying.
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My only point is Zach Brown went to what he
was hating on. Correct. He did obviously a beautiful drug.
And I have no problem with either one of them,
by the way, love them both. I didn't even know
this is a thing. I think you can make the
dumbest crap. But if it makes people smile, it's no
longer the dumbest crap. Somebody told me the best thing
about country music is there's room for everything in it.
(06:35):
Did you say that? Maybe it was you? You know
there's there's room for everything ready from a hot take?
Come on, you want to know a song, just a
great song, baby shark? How does that go? Baby shark?
I'm not kidding any song that will elicit that much
joy period, with the melody, with the words don't care?
(06:58):
Is that number one still be too? Ras? Wash your hands? Right?
Do you understand my point? You're saying, I don't care
what your song is about. If if you make that
many people happy, your net gain is happiness that you win.
Let's stop being snobs about songs art. Anybody that's art
snob is so anyway, I hate you, Eddie Um, but
(07:21):
that was a feud. I remember it crazy. I didn't
even see that one at all. I don't know how
about Travis Trip and Billy Ray Cyrus Make You Break
Your Heart super successful, and when asked for his opinion,
Travis Trick called the song frivolous and said he didn't
want to see country music turned into an a wiggling contest,
bad word, a wiggling hunt, like your butt, like but
wiggling hunt. Billy ray Cyrus fired back, using Travish Trip's
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own lyrics. Accepting favorite country single, he raised the trophy
and declared, to those who don't appreciate it, here's a
quarter called someone who cares. He used his lyrics right
back to him in his face. Travis should apologize and
said of a piece Lily. In two thousand two, they
performed together at the memorial for Waylon Jennings. Because yes,
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at the end of the day, it's okay. Yeah, at
the end of that you guys have different music, It's okay.
At the end of the day, we're talking about art
and it's not hurting anybody. And there are real problems
in the world. And like Carrie said, you're both millionaires,
so be quiet, So be good there. I just leod
up one um. Johnny Cash versus the Grand Ol Opry.
Johnny Cash was onces A banned from the Grand Ol
(08:29):
operation break lights in nive Cash broke the floor lights
on the opery stage and the opera was not pleased. Quote,
I don't know how bad they wanted me in the
first place, but the knighter broke all the lights on
stage with a microphone. They said they couldn't use me anymore.
They eventually got over the riff and Johnny Cash was
once again allowed back to the opery before his dead.
Here's the stupid thing about that to us telling that story,
(08:49):
like how bad? How awesome is that the dude went
up and started kicking all the lights And even it's
even in his movie. That scene is in the movie
where it's kicking all lights and you watched that scene,
You're like, that is a bad Like that's so cool.
But can you imagine the guys the opera back then,
what is this dude doing? If anyone did that now,
gone Gone would be the same thing. It's social media
(09:09):
would be all over it to correct. Yeah, you're right,
the opera would be mad, and then everyone else would
be really upset about it. Lean Rhymes versus wilbur Rhymes,
who's her dad? In two thousand, Lion Rymes filed a
lawsuit against her dad, claiming he and her manager manipulated
the singer took more than seven million dollars for earnings.
It's terrible, Wilberck countersued, calling his kid a spoiled bratt.
The next year, Lion Rymes cried in the Nashville courtroom
(09:31):
as a judge refused to let her out of a
recording contract with Curb Records that was approved by the
request of her parents, which he was twelve. That sucks.
Her parents signed her into a deal at twelve years old.
By the end of November, she and the label came
to an agreement, and she then resigned with CURB. So
I guess they renegotiated the duel. In two thousand one,
she hosted the a c M Awards, sporting a T
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shirt reading Daddy and saying tonight, I won't bother to
think of my father. That same night, she met her
future first husband, Dean. By the time the couple in
two thousand two, they had reconciled. Wilbert walked Lean down
the aisle and suits were settled. Have you ever met
Lean right now? She just been she'd been in our studio. Yeah,
(10:13):
she like walked in randomly once. Right, We're in the
middle of a second, and we were like, what just happened?
This was a long time ago, it's weird, probably about
six years ago. So yeah, walks in. We're in the
middle of something, and she was like, hey, lean Ryan,
what just happened? And was like, that's Lane Ryans. They
(10:33):
just saw her on Housewives Crazy. Hey, let me ask
you this as a as a dad, are you allowed
to call your kid a spoiled brat and not and
not really not blame yourself for that? Yeah? Yes? If yes,
I'm going to say, if she's being spoiled by people
other than her family. Let's say she's fourteen years old
(10:55):
and she has record executives manage other people on her,
it does come back to the parents because they gotta
be watching all of that. But maybe that you know,
they allowed her to be spoiled by someone else in
the business. Okay. My first thought was just like, she's twelve,
calling her spoil brow, Well, that's kind of on you,
but still parents, Yeah, but you know, at twelve thirteen
years kind of doing your own thing a bit. And
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if they signed her to a record dealing Charlie Rich
versus John Denver. Before there was Kanye and Taylor, there
was Charlie Rich and John Denver. Who's Charlie Rich? You
don't know Charlie Rich. When Denver was announced he's the
old white guy who burned the um at the CMA.
I think it was cmaz um. He gets up and
goes and he saw that John Denver won the award
(11:39):
and he lit it on. Yes, yes, I see. I
saw this clip like two years ago. I remember this
when John Denver here. It is when John Denver was
announced in the nineteen cm A Entertainer of the Year awards.
A drunk rich set fire to a piece of paper
naming his fellow singer the winner. John Denver was not
there and he appeared, remember, and it throws to him.
He's got a ear piece of putting in and he's like, oh,
I wont He's all happy, but he can't see what happened, Yes,
(12:02):
because he's somewhere else. It was like in Australia, right,
that's right. This was on the documentary The Country Musing documentary. Okay,
so but yeah, that's how I even know who Charlie Richard. Wow,
it's from that clip and he was saying that John
Denver doesn't deserve the country wasn't country, so he doesn't
deserve this award, by the way, about how freaking country
(12:22):
John didn't and how it's just constantly the same cycle.
Even in nineteen they were upset that someone wasn't country. Yeah,
almost Heaven, West Virginia. I mean, dude, thinking about West Virginia,
Blue Ridge Mountain, Shenando. What's the name of that song?
(12:42):
Country Roads come on? And not just that one? Other ones? Yea, yeah,
like thank God, I'm a country boy. I don't know
what is more countries and I'm a country boy. Uh
you know? I think of Paul Shore in the dry
think son in law and their drive. He's driving the tractor.
(13:04):
Then god, I'm a countable. Kristen Hall versus sugar Land,
Now do you know who that is? She is? I
don't know who she is. She was one of sugar Land.
Oh the third one three became two when she left
sugar Land in two thousand and six to concentrate on songwriting.
That's what they say in the story. Do you know
something different? I just I've heard many stories. I don't
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think it was to concentrate on songwriting. I don't think
you'll leave a group like that to concentrate on songwright.
Was this at the peak? Right before the peak? There
was big that they were big, they were starting to
be big. The duo that remained went on to become
one of the biggest acts in country music. She filed
at one point five million dollars suit against her former
partners Christian Bush and Jennifer Nettles, claiming she was promised
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to share the group's future earnings. The suit was settled
in two thousand and ten. Especially didn't go after more
than that because one five million not a lot for
what they made Massive. Dolly Parton, Porter Wagner they were
singing partners for a long time, and and port O Wagoner,
who also said that they were more for a while.
(14:09):
Dolly Parton said they weren't, and so she wrote I
Will always love you for him. He filed a three
million dollar breach of contracts suit against her nine because
she wanted to leave like start I mean, and she
wouldn't have been Dolly if she wouldn't have made that move.
Yeah crazy. The two made up in night they performed
together on her TV variety show. She was at Porter's
(14:32):
bedside when he died two thousand seven. Tim McGraw and
Curb Records, that's pretty recent. Two thousand eight. Oh yeah,
I thought you miss since we've been here. That's probably
was that five years ago. What was that, dude, it's
two thousand and twenty. That's twelve years ago. Twelve years ago,
we weren't here, So we weren't here then interesting. In
two thousand eight, Tim McGraw was working on recording new
(14:54):
songs when Curb Records announced Greatest Hits three mcgrawl rights.
I'm saddened and disappointed that my label chose to put
out another hits album instead of new music. A Curb
executive disagreed, saying he had numerous conversations with McGraw's reps
about all aspects of the package. Mcgrawl filed a super
breach contract, claiming Curb was keeping him in a perpetual
(15:16):
state of involuntary servitude. Kurb was his original label. I
don't know if it was original, because he's been around
for a long time. The official announcement of the album
was made August eight. The album included if you're reading this,
which was such a great, powerful song I saw him
doing so. This is about a soldier, and it's the
(15:40):
note that if you were to be killed, that you
pull the note out and you give it to And
I saw him do this. I went to watch him
and uh, when that you wrote that book. I went
to a theater and he played this acoustic freaking crazy um.
After legal wrangling, McGraw won his release from Curb and Court.
Michael Jackson and Prince I don't remember this, what's wrong
(16:00):
with them? The feud between two of music's biggest entertainer
started in two when Thriller out sold Prince's album The
Purple One, then followed up with Purple Rain, and Jackson
reportedly attended several of Princess shows to study him on tour.
Jackson later decided to ask Prince join the recording of
We Are the World, but Prince refused. M j then
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asked people do a duet and appeared in the video
for Bad. Prince said no, and they just weren't good.
They never made up. It sounds like a little healthy competition.
It sounds like they both were probably at Yeah. I
mean they were both racing to the top. Yeah, listen,
I'm sure there's a lot of behind the scenes stuff.
It does sound like Michael clip Michael is the biggest
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star I think we've ever had, the Beatles, Elvis, Michael Jackson.
I don't think there's anyone that has appeared and been
that large as a look at history and what's happened
at the time, and in our life there's been big ones,
but I don't know as all consuming as those in
(17:04):
our life in sinc. Bactual Boy Bay Mania, but actually
boy in Sinc. Taylor Jonas Brothers pretty big, m I
wouldn't think, yes, yes for not for not a long time,
but pretty big when. But I'm talking. But but it's
different because I mean, these these bands, the three just
compared to the Jonas Brothers, well, the three that you mentioned,
just the span of time that they had as number
(17:27):
one is the very top. Like, you can't compare to that.
But that's music is different, Mike. Would you put Jones
Brothers in that mix? No, Okay, just making sure. I
saw the documentary and there are lots of they were massive.
From sure, they were massive for a minute. I would
just say that those other acts that I mentioned have
been just had had some lengevity come to mind. You're
entitled from from like December the February longer than that.
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But they're actually great now now the Jones Brothers put
out legitmngs are good. I like that. Um No, well
that's a good one. To what's a man gotta do?
That's a good one. I gotta do. This song is
a jam. That's how click and pivot. I was like,
Jude arout that stupid now. But there they're awesome. Here
(18:14):
we go. So what's a man gotta do? What's a
man gotta do to meet? They keep it up, They're
gonna they can be as big as he met the future.
He met up jonas brothers Future and keep it up,
keep doing it boys, Tupac and Biggie, which was a
weird feud because Tupac wasn't really from California. Where's he from?
(18:40):
Tupac was the East Coast guy was born right, Mike,
I believe so the feud that penn East Coast and
West Coast was and that was it. That was massive
right East Coast, West Coast. Tupac was robbed and shot
in the lobby of recording studio, supposed to meet Biggie
and did He and Biggie were like, we do nothing
about Tupac didn't believe it. They sort of dissing each
(19:03):
other like crazy. Eventually Tupac was killed, Biggie was killed.
Every guys, the record guys that made the money Is
this your number one feud? No, I just have listed
a bunch of them here. Yeah, he was born in Harlem. Yeah,
that's what was weird about the Tupac thing was and
that's why some of them was orchestrated. In my mind,
they gosh and this thing ended in death from death
(19:26):
of them, and you know, and still people still making
money from them. Sugar Night, He's still he's in jail.
That guy couldn't stop doing crime. Yeah, I know even
after it that. I saw a video recently where he
like ran over some people. I don't know, I don't
know what showed up on my Twitter or something I
watched that. What are you watching right now? Edie's watching
two thousand two World Stars where quarantine? What are you
(19:48):
talking about? Videos to start reserf Kanye Taylor Swift? Yes,
we know that one from them as Terrible Taylor Swift
Katie Perry. They were buddy ish before two. After three
backup dancers left Taylor's Red Tour to join Katie Perry's
Prism Tour, Taylor accused Katie Perry of trying to sabotage
(20:10):
her and then bad Blood was a song it was
about Katy Perry oh was that about Katie supposed right,
Mike that Then in May two thousand seven, Swish Swish
was released from Kati Permember Swish Swish and so it
even had Nicki Minaj. He was also kind of beefing
with Taylor at the time, and they were saying Swish
(20:30):
Swish was almost like Swift Swift. Did you know that?
I know that, That's what I don't know if it's true.
And listen, I have never talked to Katie about this.
We worked together a little bit, but would you ever know.
I'm not that close to kat Katy now talking for
in the same room. We're friendly, but like Luke and
Lione I hang with but you know, um that pop
world's all different world. But yeah, so what I had
(20:53):
heard was Swish Swish was from Katie Perry was swift
Swiss Swift? Yeah, okay, we got a couple more of these.
Axle Row was in Kurt Cobain. Oh, we didn't know
they were feuding. In addition to fighting with Slash, Axel
had another public feud with the late singer of Nirvana.
When Ravana came on the scene. Axel Rose was a
big fan of the band, but when Kurt started bad
(21:14):
mouthing guns and roses. They started fighting Axel or at
least a tirade during one of his shows, calling Cobain
a fin junkie with a junkie wife. Not wrong, I
mean Courtney Love was pretty junkie. When they met backstage
at the mtvm as in ninety two, Courtney Loved taunted
Axel Rose and exchange words with his girlfriend gen A's
(21:34):
Deaf mccagan and Nirvana's Chris Novoselic then got into it.
It wasn't until cobain suicide the members of both groups
put the feudure rest. After Kurt Cobain h I mean,
I feel like a lot of people fought with Axel
Rose to feel like he just was up for fighting. Yes,
like me the first three years of his brand, just
(21:56):
just swinging at me, just come at me. Sometimes I'll
still get triggered still, well, yes, but I can manage
it better for the most I went off on somebody
prey recently, just to them on Instagram. I had a
radio guy hit me up and was it was like
calling me lazy. You can call me a lot of
things wrong, ugly, stupid. I don't care about any of that.
(22:20):
Never call me lazy triggered because again I tried to respond,
not react. I was typing back faster than I could
finish reading the message. I just I was just ramming him,
and I probably took a couple of those shots, probably take.
I'm not proud of it, but i'll tell you what
I did. Yit me and it was like that's lazy
(22:41):
to do, and I was like, all right, So I
just hammered like three of them, he says on the back,
hammer him again, and then I just muted him. So
I don't even know what he wrote back. So I
never I don't know in my mind, not one because
I just muted him. Kid Rock and Tommy Lee, Yeah,
pam I Underson, Nicki Mina, your Miley Cyrus. They got
(23:03):
into it at the v m as after Nicki Minaj
comment on social media about Taylor Swift and all the nominations.
Prior to host on the show, Miley Cyrus told The
New York Times that the artist remarks quote sounded a
very Nicki Nicki Minaj, which, if you know Nicki Minaj
is not too kind. And then of course they're all
at it trivial sounds like high school should know, yeah, well,
(23:26):
my craft behind all this stuff sounds like high school
except Big Into freaking died, So that's what's up. Huh, Yeah,
it's awesome. I didn't know which what was your favorite?
I mean, obviously Big and Tupac. I like to apologize
for jumping on you for the Luke Bryan's that brown thing.
(23:47):
You don't apologize that you were stupid. But see, you
thought you talked about Axl Rose and Kurt Cobain find
probably about the same thing. Kurt Kurt Cobain was probably like,
what kind of music is that? Man? It's just trash.
Mine's heartfelt and grungy and cool. Mine's not glamb. My
favorite one is probably m hm m hmm. And when
(24:12):
you say favorite, you're not like condoning it. You're the
most interesting. I'm just kind of looking back at him
against maybe Travis Trent and Billy Ray Cyrus. Oh no,
Johnny Cash, grand ol Opery. That's the winner stuff because
nobody got that's good as good. And then it's a
big deal for them to invite him back. I feel
because didn't they do that with Hank Williams And well, no, no,
(24:32):
there's a difference in getting to play again and being
a member, like I think, what did they do with
with Johnny Cash? They just told not to play? I
don't know his memberships dad offhand, I would assume he's
a member of the Opery and they may have told
him don't come back and not revoked it or did revoke.
I don't know. But Hank Williams, I think they kicked
(24:54):
him out of the Opery and then didn't never play,
didn't read put him back. I think he died. He died.
They probably would have, I bet you over time. I
think so too. Mike, is Johnny Cash remember the operating
he is? Yeah, So they didn't kick him out, he
was just banned. He was, yeah, remember, but sorry, buddy,
(25:14):
you have the jacket, but you can't come back. All right,
thank you guys coming up in a stacle. I like
the Matt Jones love this guy, A big fan of
his work. And we'll get into quarantine music. So what's happening, man?
What is going on? Okay? So on with us right now?
Is Matt Jones from Kentucky Sports Radio, which there is
(25:37):
no sports to talk about. So what do you talk about? Well,
we're only a sports show sort of tangentially. We actually
spend most of the time just talking kind of about
my life and what's going on. So for me, it's
the ability did not have to talk about distraction of
sports very much, is to just be completely self centered
and just talk about whatever is on my mind that day.
(25:59):
So I'm actual we kind of looking forward to So
have you started doing the show in Corona days yet?
And well, I mean we we We've done you know,
we've done a lot of Corona stuff, but I have not.
I've left my house. I'm still going to the the studio,
although tomorrow might be the last day I do that.
I feel like now I might as well just do
it at the house. But I'm gonna be really bored.
(26:21):
It's not so much the sport. That's like not going anywhere,
and that's probably gonna be really exhausting after a while.
I feel like tomorrow will be my last day in
the studio as well. We were just talking about that.
By the way, Eddie, my producer from the radio show
and my comedy part in the in the Raging Idiots,
is here too, So Eddie tide of Matt. What's up, Matt?
How you doing, man? I'm doing great? How are you
(26:42):
what if his answer was totally different when you asked him, well, yeah,
he's told you one thing. It's like, I'm glad you have.
He just seemed I'm gonna be honest with He just
seemed more excited to talk to me. Like when you answered,
it kind of felt like you're like, yeah, whatever, it's Matt.
He seemed very eager, and so I wanted to be
happy for it. So with Matt. In a few minutes,
we're gonna do his five quarantine in songs. But Matt
and I went to dinner. And I've been a big
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fan of Mat for a while and so much so
it's like you know somebody on the internet for a
long time, and you know you're you're nervous before the
first date, and it's like we both swiped R eight
and you know we're finally meeting, and so we go
we have dinner together. And I get to dinner and
I arrived probably seven or eight minutes early. You know me,
I'm always a little bit early, never late, always a
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little early. And I get there and Matt is knuckles
deep and like his second entree, he's already started eating
at the restaurant when Caitlin and I are going he's
this bowl of edam mommy dumplings has gone, and I'm like,
what's up man? He's like, Man, I've been here for
like forty minutes. Just thought I would get started, like
a little bit off putting. Here's the thing you're talking about,
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being nervous. Very rarely do people in the first meeting
one person brings a date and the other persons just
left solo. So I already felt sort of third wheel ish.
And then you know, I thought Nashville would be like
crazy try because you know, we're not from the big
city like you all, and so I thought, oh, I
better like make sure I give time for traffic. And
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then of course no one was out because of Corona.
So when I so, I ended up arriving early and
then I'm just sitting there in this restaurant and all
the little foo foo like waiters and like everybody like,
you know, everybody's so hip, and they all have type
jeans and everybody looks kipster and I was, and you know,
I felt uncomfortable in my UK hoodie, and so I
think they had to look like, Okay, dude, are you
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gonna order something? You just gonna sit here and stare
at it. And so I felt like an ed a
mom made dumpling was a good like starter course. But yeah,
you clearly we're very like, why are you eating? I
was shaken. It's our first date and you're eating. You
probably already partially full, So the butterflies are gone. We
needed to be an equal butterfly for this. And by
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the way, I didn't have a date. My girlfriend and
I are quarantined together, and I was like, hey, I'm
gonna go. And she's a massive sports fan and I
was like, Hey, I'm gonna go and meet this guy
that I've been dating on internet for the past few months.
And I was like, he's cool. We won't care. So
I didn't see it as the third will. I saw
it as just like three. She was. She was delightful,
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She's awesome. You you know, I don't you should like
make her a bigger part of your life because I
enjoy I enjoyed her. She was funny, she rolls her
eyes at what you do, which I think is what
somebody like you and I need. So I thought she
was great and I enjoyed it. Listen, I was worried
about this like you're the big star. You're on Dancing
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with the Stars and American Idol. I did the Lexington
Dancing with the Stars and came in thirds, not quite
the same as winning the national and and then you're
on American Idol. I I do karaoke at the local bar.
So I was kind of felt a little intimidated. But
for people who listen to this and go, oh, is
Bobby as nice as he seems here, I want to say, yes,
he is. He has he is exactly like you think.
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The hair is just as like, you know, has as
much product as you would think, and he's as nice
as you would say, well, and also that's very kind
of you. And he was talking about wearing a Kentucky hoodie.
I show up an oversized sweats and a T shirt
that's too long for me. Like I'm like Sam Hunt
meets christmop Patrick from the nineties, and you look like
you were about to paint a house. Yeah, I mean
if you were wearing all like so, let's not. And
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it wasn't a fruit fruit place. It was a place
where you go for healthy food, which fine line, right,
there's a fine line there. But in Kentucky, seeing Kentucky
we don't have those in Kentucky. We don't have like
like when I looked at the menu, they were it
was all words I knew, but that were rarely combined
like eda mom a I knew, dumplings I knew, but
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I didn't know that they put those two things together
for an ad a mom a dumpling. So it was
one of those places where everything is like you can
have this here and they don't have anywhere else. It's
a very natural thing. But I enjoyed it. This food
was great and it smelled healthy, like it smelled fresh,
and every drink Bobby got had like thirteen different proteins
in it. It was very nice. So we were talking
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about music a bet and in Kentucky, Eddie, if I
say Kentucky country music, who comes to mind right now?
I mean just Blake because of his line in Kentucky,
But Kentucky music, I would go John Michael Montgomery. I
like that. Listen, that's a good call. John Michael Montgomery
is a great dude. And uh it's from Nicholasville. You know,
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Kentucky has produced an unbelievable amount of country singers and
in the current world, we're kind of dominating. What I
think is the sort of new wave of country that
Chris Stapleton, Thurgle Simpson, Tyler Childer's branch. So Kentucky has
got a long history and most of the Kentucky country
singers have come from like a forty mile radius in
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the mountain. What do you think that's about? You know,
it's a good question. I think a lot of it
is the culture in those places like this is a
it's kind of where a lot of modern bluegrass, well
older bluegrass music started. And then you know these generations
of singers, so it's in the Paintsful Johnson County, Eastern
Kentucky area, So you had this generation going back of
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like started with Tom t. Hall, and then another generation
that had like Patty Loveless and Dwight Yoakum, and then
another generation that was like the Juds and and and
and all this group and now this new one. And
I think it's just, you know, there's a culture. Their
kids grow up playing music at an early age, playing
a very distinctive type of music. There's a university there
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Morehead State that has an entire college devoted to traditional
Mountain music. And I think it just it just ends up,
spurring it from the area. Now, do you know Tyler
Childers a bit? Is that true? Yeah? I mean I
know him. Listen, I'm not. It's not like you like.
I don't. They don't. I don't hang and we don't
like send each other like uh sweet social media messages.
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We don't have to roast every question by the way
we can though. I know him a little bit and
he's a great dude. And his music, I mean, it's weird.
I've got to the age where I now will say
that people younger than me are like my favorite artists,
which is really strange. I don't know if that happens
with you guys, but it's weird to say, like, your
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favorite artist or comedian or whatever author is younger than you.
He's younger than me, but he is my favorite musical
artist and it's not even close. I think he's absolutely
off the chart talented, and yeah, I do know him.
He's a really good guy. It is weird when I
enjoy something like a Harry Styles record, because I'm thirty
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nine and I really like the Harry Styles record, and
I have to always preface it by going, so my
girlfriends listening to Harry Styles right, and I like it,
but it's the same thing like I do. It is
an odd thing to really enjoy music made by someone
ten years younger than you, even some of the Billie
Eilish stuff. Yeah. I think it's because like when you
really like when you like a singer beyond just like
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liking the beat or whatever, when you really like the
lyrics of what they're saying, there's a part of that
where you're almost saying, this person makes me think or
they're deep or whatever. And it's weird to think that
about somebody younger than you. You're like, how can you
have this life experience that seems so much more thoughtful
than mine? I mean, the older you get, like that's
gonna happen more and more and more. But for Tyler,
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he's he is you know, I grew up. I love
Johnny Cash, Willie Nelson, whyl and Jenny like that kind
of group of music. And it's weird to sort of
feel that like same connection with somebody that's, you know,
younger than you, but I have with with his music,
and I think it's just it's it's awesome. Who is
your favorite artist? Pre Tyler? And I'll give you a
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second to think about that. Mine has been John Mayer
and Garth Brooks. Garth because I grew up in that
that space of time was that was big in Arkansas.
That's what I think about when it was like pre
grunge when I first started the film music. But John
Mayor was the first because he's him and I roughly
the same age, and he was the first songwriter that
ever wrote lyrics where I felt like I felt that,
I felt that, I felt like I get that. I
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get that. So John Mayor and Garth Brooks be mine.
What about you, Matt, I'd probably say Johnny Cash and
Tom Petty. Um, I really, Tom Petty was the first
music that like I connected to at all when I
was in high school. You know, he put that song
out when I was in high school. You don't know
how it feels to be Me, which is a great
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song because everybody can think it applies to them like
every moment. You don't know how it feels to be me? Um.
But uh, and then Johnny Cash, to me is the
best musician of all time in modern music. I just
I love everything he did. I love how versatile he was.
He was a rebel. But then also dudes like gospel music.
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He just did everything. And I am a a massive
Johnny Cash thing. So what I hear about you is
you love Arkansas music. Oh, listen, I love Arkansas. You know.
One of my favorite songs right now is by a
blue grass group called Town Mountain, and they have a
song called Arkansas Gambler, which I was gonna put on
my list just because of your Arkansas connection, and I didn't.
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They're not from Kentucky and everybody on my list from Kentucky.
But yeah, no, I listen. I I don't really like
that you all do the pick Suey chance. But otherwise
I'm a big Arkansas fan. We Arkansas and Kentucky have
a lot of socioeconomically, yes, culturally yes, um, I would
say that we're a bet ahead in sports other than basketball.
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Oh come on now, I mean you're not being like
first of all, no, no, let me talk for a second.
Except for basketball. We've had a few bad years two
and seventy five in the last few years, but you
can't look at the last few years as a macro
view of what the program means. Our program is worth
a lot more than yours. We've actually won in the SEC.
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We have baseball teams that play for national championships. We
have track teams that win. Nahally we have everything except
right now. Basketball, you have everything except the two sports
people care about right like so like, I mean, listen,
I will grant you your Croka team as much better.
You have nothing in football. You won like four games.
You think you're king dealing in You know, we beat
a lot you. Yeah, it was like to the puff
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powders and battling it out. We've actually beat you the
last three times we played you. Once was should we
look at look at all time record Kentucky and Arkansas
would be I don't live in the past. I mean listen,
William Howard tapped was president once. I don't really deal
with that on a daily basis. I talked about what's
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happening now, and what's happening now is Arkansas. Of all
the teams in the SEC, you're the one we're second
least proud of. We are having a rough time right now.
Sometimes in life, you have a down. You've never had
a down, Matt in your life. It's all been all
up for you. Yeah yeah, but then you bounce back
better than before. Because I think right now you're thriving,
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and that's what Arkansas is about to be. Yes, no,
we we we are. And listen, we both have produced presidents.
You produced Clinton, we produced Oh, I don't know Abraham Lincoln.
So we all have our We're gonna we're definitely not
gonna live in the past. No, No, you can't make
a task and then go link in right after that.
At least got a space that out a little bit. Mike,
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do you have overall record? There? Not an updated one.
I don't think he knows what to look at. Matt
doesn't know anything I met. Mike does anything about sports.
Give my lifetime. I'm not I'm not even kidding. I
think in my lifetime we're either three and oh or
three and one against you. I'm not sure. But we
do have a winning record. Put it in basketball, like,
come on, you all haven't beating us. You're beating us once.
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I think in like years, I'm not arguing about basketball. Yeah,
there's nothing there. Okay, what we're doing now, off, I'll
produce this information. What we're doing now is Matt has
given us five songs that he's quarantining himself up with.
Make a big playlist out of this and so he's
the first one to pop his five songs on the
list What is your first quarantine song for the playlist?
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Matt Well, First of all, I picked all Kentucky artists.
I mean these I'm not gonna say these are my
five favorite artists of all time. But if I'm gonna
being quarantined in Kentucky, I'm gonna represent Kentucky. The first
one I picked was Dwight Yoakum Guitars, cadillacs and He'll
billy music. Here you go. And the reason I picked
Dwight is Dwight, to me has the most unique next
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to George Jones, the most unique country voice of all time.
He's from the Hills and he sounds like it and
I'm a massive fan. And this, to me is sort
of his best song, because what else do you want? Guitars,
cadillacs and he'll billy music, all right, turn it out?
Who litle bit, here we go. You know what's weird
is and you can knock that down is I've I
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think of him as being from California. Yeah, I'm not Kentucky.
Same here, So I mean you still think that he
ran I'm just saying when he still lives in California, right.
I saw him about eight months ago and he was
living in California. No, No, And he does the whole
Bakersfield thing. And I think you could say in some
ways his musical style is probably more influenced by that.
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But if you listen to his lyrics, especially his early lyrics,
they're all Kentucky centric. He sings a lot about Cole,
he sings a lot about mountain life, and so he
I mean, he I think would consider himself as much,
if not more so, California. But his lyrics, especially in
the era that I really like, we're very much Kentucky centric.
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And I don't want my friends from Kentucky thinking of
bagging on them. I'm just going after Matt because he goes,
you can't use Taft and then he uses Lincoln. That's
the only unfair part of the argument. To be fair,
Lincoln is a pretty good card to play. I mean,
Lincoln is, you know, the best president. Everyone agrees Lincoln
is the best president, except Trump, who tries to say
argue he is. But Lincoln is is pretty much university.
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I agree. I love Abraham Lincoln. Controversial take. I love
Abam I was about to say, he's pro Abraham. Here's
the other thing. Did you know this, he's pro Martin
Luther King to absolutely listen. If we're really stretching it,
I'm gonna say this. You know who's cool? The Pope?
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Yeah listen. And you know who I'd like to hang with, Jesus? Yeah,
way back? All right? What's your second song on your list? So?
I was I you I wanted to have a female artist.
I'm growing up. I'm actually grew up loving the Judge.
And then I thought about it, and I want to
though I don't Judd sing a lot of sad songs.
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So I picked whine Nona or Is. My grandma used
to call her whine owner. Whine Owner Judge song girls
with guitars, which has a great So if I'm sad
while i'm quarantine, I can play this riff and I'm happy.
Do you play guitar? Not at all? No, But it
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also has been skill on it. A good Nashville person
there too. He's the one singing the male part of that. Alright,
turn this up, Mike, all right, what else you got me? So?
My next one is one that probably a lot of
your listeners aren't familiar with. Don't insult my listeners by
the way, maybe they are. But Tom T. Hall. So
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my uncle was a book editor and he edited Tom T.
Hall's book, and so as a kid, I would see
Tom T. Hall. He he was friends with my uncle,
and I didn't realize that he was like a songwriting lets.
He just went to the Songwriters Hall of Fame with Missy, Missdemeanor,
Elliott and John Pryme this year. But he has written,
as you know, a zillion songs, including ones that people
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don't even know he wrote, like Harper Valley p p A.
But my favorite of them, and I picked this one
in part because you're Arkansas and Razorbacks is Who's Gonna
Feed Them Hall, which is about a man in a
hospital bed so he can't get out, and all he
cares about is who's gonna feed his Hall? Here, I
am Who's gonna feed them home? His face was lean
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and his hands were rug his way. I don't know
I've ever heard that dig it Yeah, And you know
it sounds like feed Jake is derivative of feed them hogsty.
That's a good call. If I die before I wake,
feed Jack, that's the way. Well, the thing about that song,
it includes the line that I like he says, there's
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four hundred hogs and they're just standing out there, which,
if you think about, is what hogs do? They don't
do anything, They just stand there. I like Tom t
hogs for you. I picked the hogs. Okay, what else
you got? All right? The best voice, in my opinion,
just the best pure male voice in the history of
country music, is Keith Whitley. I think Keith Whitley from
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Kentucky often forgotten his most famous song when you say
Nothing at All. Most people remember more Prowess and Kraussburg.
But I think his baritone is the best voice country
music has ever had. And so I didn't want to
pick one of his really sad songs like tell Laurie
I Love Her might be as sad as song that's
ever been written. So I picked Miami, Miami, as well
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as my next one, jam Bay so good. Sing along there,
all right, and we have one more? What do you got,
Matt Well? I couldn't get out of here without picking
Tyler so a lot. You know, people who know Tyler
Childer's they know like Feathered Indians and some of the
popular but its most beautiful song. It's called follow you
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to Virgie. It's about going to his friend's grandma's funeral.
You won't be able to play at all, I understand,
but I would encourage people to listen to it. It's gorgeous,
it's and he sounds more like Eastern Kentucky mountains in
this song than any singer you'll ever hear. And now
I will follow you to Virgie because that's what us
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boys for, to help you out when you get weird
and you can't go no more. I also looked up
while we were having this conversation famous people from Kentucky,
oddly a lot, Abraham Lincoln, Johnny Depp, Mohammad Ali. Correct,
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they're all correct. You don't have to, all right if
you cut off the part that made me cry and
that's song. But yes, I was just trying to help.
I can give you other ones, George, I'm not done,
all right. Jennifer Lawrence, George Rosemary Clooney, Loretta Lynn, Jennifer Carpenter.
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I don't know who that is. I don't know who
Jennifer Carpenter is. You mentioned Loretta Land when I was
talking about the cut of music theater. I forgot about
from from Coal Miner's daughter, Nicola sha is from freaking Kentucky. Yeah,
I said, Nikolay, it's a really nice guy. I was
gonna make a joke, but I won't. He's actually a
really nice dude. Have you watched Love Is Blind? I have.
(45:50):
I I can't get through it. I cringe. It just
everyone makes me cringe so much that I can't watch it.
Do you like it? My girlfriend got me into it,
and I wouldn't have watched it by myself, and I
wouldn't have stayed with it by myself. But we enjoyed
watching it together because, Yeah, I gave us something to
talk about what will happen. It's it's an interesting concept
(46:12):
to you put people together and you see what happens
if they can't see each other. So I will say, yes,
I enjoyed it, but I think it was because of
the overall experience we had more so than the show.
Well that's what we all hope is for your experience
to be good while you watched it, um, and I'm
glad about that. Two of the Backstreet Boys, by the way,
Brian Latrelle and Kevin Richardson, also from Kentucky. Jefferson C.
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Jefferson Davis, Jefferson Davis. Yeah, I don't talk about now.
I think we should have been a second on Jefferson Davis.
Shall we the former president of the Confederate States, So yeah,
they Lincoln and you have Jefferson caused any controversy. But
I don't talk a lot. I can to like my
famous people to have not tried to succeed from the Union.
I prefer people who stayed with us through kick and
(46:55):
san So that's why I'm not a big Jefferson Davis.
Rondo is from Kentucky. Rondo played at Kentucky. But yeah,
but that doesn't mean he's from You guys should pay
athletes from all over the Yeah, well, I mean we
took your best food when we took Malik Monks, so
it worked out really well. Yeah, that's true. I can't
argue with that one. Listen, now, Rondo is from Kentucky. Uh, athletically,
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let's see, um, Paul Hornick don't talk. We get with
the athletic one. Nobody cares. Yeah, exactly. You don't know
who Paul horniget like for the Packers that won the
first two old Old school art star Well, yeah, but
he's not from the same just went by a different name. Hey, Matt,
talking about your talking about your book for a second. Yeah,
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So I wrote a book that is called Mitch Please.
It comes out in a couple of weeks and it
is about Mitch McConnell, but it's really about Kentucky. I
went to all hundred and twenty counties in Kentucky and
I sort of wanted to see what the effect of
having Mitch McConnell, the human turtle as our senator has
been and for people who don't know, I considered run
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against him. So I sort of told the story about
considering running against him. I went to every county. It's funny,
it's kind of a travelog. It's also sort of an
indictment of McConnell. And I do think people will like it.
Um it's a little bit of everything. And I'm very excited.
And I've never written a book before and I wrote
one in just a couple of months, and I'm nervous
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about it, but I had a great time. We'll take
it from this two time New York Times bestseller. Oh yeah, listen,
I will take whatever advice you have. John Grisham, I
have no advice. Just hold on tight. Because I don't
know what I was doing either. Um so this these podcasts, obviously,
these get listened to for weeks and weeks weeks, ares
do We don't really have a It's not like a
daily thing. So what what? What day does the book
(48:43):
come out? Though? Because some people may be hearing right now,
they say the book comes out March thirty first. Now,
of course, Corona might be changing everything. I'm not sure,
but as of now, it's Marks thirty first. You can
order it on Amazon. I don't know if bookstores will
still exist in Marks thirty one the way this is
all going, but uh, you can order it on Amazon.
They'll deliver it to you. It's a perfect thing to
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read while you're quarantine. And uh, and it has a
great cartoon on the front of it as well. And
it's called Mitch Please, which you know is a play
on on on on on Bitch please. But that was
the nicest one I could do with his name. I
was gonna do Mitch better have my money. But all right,
there is follow him at k Y Sports Radio. Uh.
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In all seriousness, I'm such a fan of what you do.
And you know, I was a fan long before we met.
I just think how you do it and what you do,
especially in this day of age and the day and
age when you know it's hard to find distinct voices.
And I don't mean texture or tone of how you talk,
but I mean people that you really listen to what
they have to say. And you're one of those. And
I'm happy now that I consider your friend. Well, that
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is very kind. I consider you a friend and I
do want to I want to say this because I
know people, uh people have a connection to you. And
this is the thing that's the best about It is
very rare for people to have a high degree of
success and want to bring along others to sort of
like kind of reach and help people. You've done that
with me, and I can't thank you enough for that.
(50:10):
That's there are so few people in the industry that
will do that, and you have with me, and I
consider you a friend as well, and I really appreciate
all Right, Matt, have a good Corona quarantine and we'll
talk to you soon. Thank you very much.
Welcome to the Bobby Cast. Episode to thirty four. We'll
talk about the biggest feuds and music. Matt Jones from
Kentucky Sports Radio starts the Quarantine playlist, and you know,
I think in the next episode we'll do movies about music.
Mike cool, So that will be the next one. That's
for you and Mike get together and share your expertise. No,
(00:26):
he just he does a podcast about movie movies and music,
bringing his favorite three movies about music. Have we done
that with us? No, you guys to talk about some
of your favorites. But we talked about music movies like
biopics because I'm talking about that's what he's gonna do
his Oh yeah, we've done our list. We have all right,
So we have a lot to do this episode. Um,
and by the way, we're Quarantine. We got crap elsa do.
(00:48):
So this could be a two hour long Welcome to
Joe Rogan podcast. He sits there for four hours at
a friend who, by the way, the biggest podcast in
the world. Love it. Think it's he's great. Um, have
a lot of friends that have done his show, and
they're like, you better use about them before you go
because you don't get to leave. So what's the flow
of that podcast? Just constant question after questions? Are they
bouncing off each other? I think, Mike, you want to
(01:10):
answer this to like he talks about things that he
interviews people wonderfully and they also he will talk about
things and bring people in and get their perspective on
what he wants talk about you in the way I
listened to it. I just listened like clips. I never
sit down listen to the full four hours or anything,
but it's cool clips and he talks about cool stuff.
There you go, cool clips and cool stuff, cool stuff.
(01:31):
Let's start with this. Uh, do we need to take
a break before we start this or no? All right,
we've been off from one minute. I need to go
to the rest. You want to take a break. Um,
Zach Brown and Luke Bryan is the first few we're
gonna talk about. I don't know about this one. It
happened right when we came to Nashville. So the Zach
(01:52):
Brown band, lead singer of lead singer of the same name.
Oh it's Zach Brown alright on the lead singer. I'm
just gonna tell you what I was reading a part
of article here. I was just gonna tell I remember
Luke coming in and I didn't know Luke Brian very
well at the time. We were new to Nashville and
being like, oh man, you're gonna ask about that Zach
(02:13):
Brown stuff. And I was like, it just happened, and
I was like, I don't know about Zach Brown's or
I would have um, I didn't, but I think Zach
Brown had insulted Luke's music. So here's a quote. According
to Zach Brown, Luke Bryan's song That's My Kind of
Night is quote the worst song I've ever heard. That's
(02:33):
that I got that real good. And this is when
we first came to town Room. Zach Brown said, there's
songs out on the radio right now that makes me
ashamed to be in the same format as some other artists.
Jason Alden came to Luke Bryan's defense. To those people
running their mouths, trust me when I tell you that
(02:54):
nobody gives an s what you think. The two eventually
made up at the two CMA words. Carrie Underwood told
the singers they have nothing to fight about. They you
both made great records and you're both millionaires. And then
she's saying why can't we be friends? So she was
the one that, you know, the real weird part about this.
And I am a lot closer to Luke than I
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am Zach, although Zach and I have a relationship ish
I could text him right, Um, quiet guy kind of
stays at everybody's business. But I will say that, you know,
Luke started to make country music with some beats in it.
Was one of those first guys too. You know, you
hear heavy bass, you know, and some of that stuff
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that was called bro country at first. I think it
looks very much off of that now. But I think
Zach Brown has made a bunch of weird music since this.
He did that, but even some of the country stuff
that on the country chart was something. My only point
is there were artists that could have done the same
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thing to Zach three years ago. But like the crap
is this You have a song on contradio with a
dance beat in it. Yeah, I think there's a little
bit of there's definitely a difference between. You know, you
look at the style of songs, uh, content wise, like
lyrically what they're what they're saying, you know, Like you
look at Zach brown music. A lot of his music
is pretty, there's heartful, it's deep stuff in there Highway
(04:20):
twenty ride, you know, even Chicken Fried a little bit,
even Chicken Fried, it's a little death to it, like this,
this is who I am and it is what we
do here from Luke Bryant. But then you got there
there's that's my kind of night, and it's like this
is pretty dumb, but it's fun and there's nothing wrong
first of all with fun music. No, it is everything
music just me all. So I understand the feud and
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we're it's stupid. It's there's no feud. Mike pull up
Zack Brown's songs. I like Zach, but he's gonna pick
up random songs. No, but you can. Lukes songs aren't
all goofy songs. Got a few, a lot of them.
But so does Zach. Pull up Zach Brown. What's his
biggest streaming song? It is knee Deep actually Chicken Fried.
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Chicken Fried, so all from that first record, you know,
the one the Brown cover Homegrown Anything and it's not
what's the one with a dance beat that was a
big song. Is someone that I used to know, someone
that I used to know. I don't think this is
the one he hit, a couple hit, the one that
was a big country hit drug. That's it. Oh yes, yes, yes,
(05:25):
very different, Yes, yes, yes yes. My only point is
that sounds putting goofy beats in his crap too. I
don't think it was about the beats, but it doesn't matter.
I don't listen to words. Really melody first, turn it up,
let's why don't we break this? Come on death wish
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baby baby. I don't want you to say, and I
don't even hate lyrics. I don't hate it. I'm totally
fine with any of this. But I'm just saying that
same argument about Luke's that's my kind of Night's a
song here at the time though, before Beautiful Drug, Zach
wasn't about this. I don't know what this is. Yeah,
he wasn't, So I'm just saying this is. I understand
where their feud was coming from, where Zach Brown was trying.
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My only point is Zach Brown went to what he
was hating on. Correct. He did obviously a beautiful drug.
And I have no problem with either one of them,
by the way, love them both. I didn't even know
this is a thing. I think you can make the
dumbest crap. But if it makes people smile, it's no
longer the dumbest crap. Somebody told me the best thing
about country music is there's room for everything in it.
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Did you say that? Maybe it was you? You know
there's there's room for everything ready from a hot take?
Come on, you want to know a song, just a
great song, baby shark? How does that go? Baby shark?
I'm not kidding any song that will elicit that much
joy period, with the melody, with the words don't care?
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Is that number one still be too? Ras? Wash your hands? Right?
Do you understand my point? You're saying, I don't care
what your song is about. If if you make that
many people happy, your net gain is happiness that you win.
Let's stop being snobs about songs art. Anybody that's art
snob is so anyway, I hate you, Eddie Um, but
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that was a feud. I remember it crazy. I didn't
even see that one at all. I don't know how
about Travis Trip and Billy Ray Cyrus Make You Break
Your Heart super successful, and when asked for his opinion,
Travis Trick called the song frivolous and said he didn't
want to see country music turned into an a wiggling contest,
bad word, a wiggling hunt, like your butt, like but
wiggling hunt. Billy ray Cyrus fired back, using Travish Trip's
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own lyrics. Accepting favorite country single, he raised the trophy
and declared, to those who don't appreciate it, here's a
quarter called someone who cares. He used his lyrics right
back to him in his face. Travis should apologize and
said of a piece Lily. In two thousand two, they
performed together at the memorial for Waylon Jennings. Because yes,
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at the end of the day, it's okay. Yeah, at
the end of that you guys have different music, It's okay.
At the end of the day, we're talking about art
and it's not hurting anybody. And there are real problems
in the world. And like Carrie said, you're both millionaires,
so be quiet, So be good there. I just leod
up one um. Johnny Cash versus the Grand Ol Opry.
Johnny Cash was onces A banned from the Grand Ol
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operation break lights in nive Cash broke the floor lights
on the opery stage and the opera was not pleased. Quote,
I don't know how bad they wanted me in the
first place, but the knighter broke all the lights on
stage with a microphone. They said they couldn't use me anymore.
They eventually got over the riff and Johnny Cash was
once again allowed back to the opery before his dead.
Here's the stupid thing about that to us telling that story,
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like how bad? How awesome is that the dude went
up and started kicking all the lights And even it's
even in his movie. That scene is in the movie
where it's kicking all lights and you watched that scene,
You're like, that is a bad Like that's so cool.
But can you imagine the guys the opera back then,
what is this dude doing? If anyone did that now,
gone Gone would be the same thing. It's social media
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would be all over it to correct. Yeah, you're right,
the opera would be mad, and then everyone else would
be really upset about it. Lean Rhymes versus wilbur Rhymes,
who's her dad? In two thousand, Lion Rymes filed a
lawsuit against her dad, claiming he and her manager manipulated
the singer took more than seven million dollars for earnings.
It's terrible, Wilberck countersued, calling his kid a spoiled bratt.
The next year, Lion Rymes cried in the Nashville courtroom
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as a judge refused to let her out of a
recording contract with Curb Records that was approved by the
request of her parents, which he was twelve. That sucks.
Her parents signed her into a deal at twelve years old.
By the end of November, she and the label came
to an agreement, and she then resigned with CURB. So
I guess they renegotiated the duel. In two thousand one,
she hosted the a c M Awards, sporting a T
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shirt reading Daddy and saying tonight, I won't bother to
think of my father. That same night, she met her
future first husband, Dean. By the time the couple in
two thousand two, they had reconciled. Wilbert walked Lean down
the aisle and suits were settled. Have you ever met
Lean right now? She just been she'd been in our studio. Yeah,
(10:13):
she like walked in randomly once. Right, We're in the
middle of a second, and we were like, what just happened?
This was a long time ago, it's weird, probably about
six years ago. So yeah, walks in. We're in the
middle of something, and she was like, hey, lean Ryan,
what just happened? And was like, that's Lane Ryans. They
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just saw her on Housewives Crazy. Hey, let me ask
you this as a as a dad, are you allowed
to call your kid a spoiled brat and not and
not really not blame yourself for that? Yeah? Yes? If yes,
I'm going to say, if she's being spoiled by people
other than her family. Let's say she's fourteen years old
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and she has record executives manage other people on her,
it does come back to the parents because they gotta
be watching all of that. But maybe that you know,
they allowed her to be spoiled by someone else in
the business. Okay. My first thought was just like, she's twelve,
calling her spoil brow, Well, that's kind of on you,
but still parents, Yeah, but you know, at twelve thirteen
years kind of doing your own thing a bit. And
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if they signed her to a record dealing Charlie Rich
versus John Denver. Before there was Kanye and Taylor, there
was Charlie Rich and John Denver. Who's Charlie Rich? You
don't know Charlie Rich. When Denver was announced he's the
old white guy who burned the um at the CMA.
I think it was cmaz um. He gets up and
goes and he saw that John Denver won the award
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and he lit it on. Yes, yes, I see. I
saw this clip like two years ago. I remember this
when John Denver here. It is when John Denver was
announced in the nineteen cm A Entertainer of the Year awards.
A drunk rich set fire to a piece of paper
naming his fellow singer the winner. John Denver was not
there and he appeared, remember, and it throws to him.
He's got a ear piece of putting in and he's like, oh,
I wont He's all happy, but he can't see what happened, Yes,
(12:02):
because he's somewhere else. It was like in Australia, right,
that's right. This was on the documentary The Country Musing documentary. Okay,
so but yeah, that's how I even know who Charlie Richard. Wow,
it's from that clip and he was saying that John
Denver doesn't deserve the country wasn't country, so he doesn't
deserve this award, by the way, about how freaking country
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John didn't and how it's just constantly the same cycle.
Even in nineteen they were upset that someone wasn't country. Yeah,
almost Heaven, West Virginia. I mean, dude, thinking about West Virginia,
Blue Ridge Mountain, Shenando. What's the name of that song?
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Country Roads come on? And not just that one? Other ones? Yea, yeah,
like thank God, I'm a country boy. I don't know
what is more countries and I'm a country boy. Uh
you know? I think of Paul Shore in the dry
think son in law and their drive. He's driving the tractor.
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Then god, I'm a countable. Kristen Hall versus sugar Land,
Now do you know who that is? She is? I
don't know who she is. She was one of sugar Land.
Oh the third one three became two when she left
sugar Land in two thousand and six to concentrate on songwriting.
That's what they say in the story. Do you know
something different? I just I've heard many stories. I don't
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think it was to concentrate on songwriting. I don't think
you'll leave a group like that to concentrate on songwright.
Was this at the peak? Right before the peak? There
was big that they were big, they were starting to
be big. The duo that remained went on to become
one of the biggest acts in country music. She filed
at one point five million dollars suit against her former
partners Christian Bush and Jennifer Nettles, claiming she was promised
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to share the group's future earnings. The suit was settled
in two thousand and ten. Especially didn't go after more
than that because one five million not a lot for
what they made Massive. Dolly Parton, Porter Wagner they were
singing partners for a long time, and and port O Wagoner,
who also said that they were more for a while.
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Dolly Parton said they weren't, and so she wrote I
Will always love you for him. He filed a three
million dollar breach of contracts suit against her nine because
she wanted to leave like start I mean, and she
wouldn't have been Dolly if she wouldn't have made that move.
Yeah crazy. The two made up in night they performed
together on her TV variety show. She was at Porter's
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bedside when he died two thousand seven. Tim McGraw and
Curb Records, that's pretty recent. Two thousand eight. Oh yeah,
I thought you miss since we've been here. That's probably
was that five years ago. What was that, dude, it's
two thousand and twenty. That's twelve years ago. Twelve years ago,
we weren't here, So we weren't here then interesting. In
two thousand eight, Tim McGraw was working on recording new
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songs when Curb Records announced Greatest Hits three mcgrawl rights.
I'm saddened and disappointed that my label chose to put
out another hits album instead of new music. A Curb
executive disagreed, saying he had numerous conversations with McGraw's reps
about all aspects of the package. Mcgrawl filed a super
breach contract, claiming Curb was keeping him in a perpetual
(15:16):
state of involuntary servitude. Kurb was his original label. I
don't know if it was original, because he's been around
for a long time. The official announcement of the album
was made August eight. The album included if you're reading this,
which was such a great, powerful song I saw him
doing so. This is about a soldier, and it's the
(15:40):
note that if you were to be killed, that you
pull the note out and you give it to And
I saw him do this. I went to watch him
and uh, when that you wrote that book. I went
to a theater and he played this acoustic freaking crazy um.
After legal wrangling, McGraw won his release from Curb and Court.
Michael Jackson and Prince I don't remember this, what's wrong
(16:00):
with them? The feud between two of music's biggest entertainer
started in two when Thriller out sold Prince's album The
Purple One, then followed up with Purple Rain, and Jackson
reportedly attended several of Princess shows to study him on tour.
Jackson later decided to ask Prince join the recording of
We Are the World, but Prince refused. M j then
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asked people do a duet and appeared in the video
for Bad. Prince said no, and they just weren't good.
They never made up. It sounds like a little healthy competition.
It sounds like they both were probably at Yeah. I
mean they were both racing to the top. Yeah, listen,
I'm sure there's a lot of behind the scenes stuff.
It does sound like Michael clip Michael is the biggest
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star I think we've ever had, the Beatles, Elvis, Michael Jackson.
I don't think there's anyone that has appeared and been
that large as a look at history and what's happened
at the time, and in our life there's been big ones,
but I don't know as all consuming as those in
(17:04):
our life in sinc. Bactual Boy Bay Mania, but actually
boy in Sinc. Taylor Jonas Brothers pretty big, m I
wouldn't think, yes, yes for not for not a long time,
but pretty big when. But I'm talking. But but it's
different because I mean, these these bands, the three just
compared to the Jonas Brothers, well, the three that you mentioned,
just the span of time that they had as number
(17:27):
one is the very top. Like, you can't compare to that.
But that's music is different, Mike. Would you put Jones
Brothers in that mix? No, Okay, just making sure. I
saw the documentary and there are lots of they were massive.
From sure, they were massive for a minute. I would
just say that those other acts that I mentioned have
been just had had some lengevity come to mind. You're
entitled from from like December the February longer than that.
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But they're actually great now now the Jones Brothers put
out legitmngs are good. I like that. Um No, well
that's a good one. To what's a man gotta do?
That's a good one. I gotta do. This song is
a jam. That's how click and pivot. I was like,
Jude arout that stupid now. But there they're awesome. Here
(18:14):
we go. So what's a man gotta do? What's a
man gotta do to meet? They keep it up, They're
gonna they can be as big as he met the future.
He met up jonas brothers Future and keep it up,
keep doing it boys, Tupac and Biggie, which was a
weird feud because Tupac wasn't really from California. Where's he from?
(18:40):
Tupac was the East Coast guy was born right, Mike,
I believe so the feud that penn East Coast and
West Coast was and that was it. That was massive
right East Coast, West Coast. Tupac was robbed and shot
in the lobby of recording studio, supposed to meet Biggie
and did He and Biggie were like, we do nothing
about Tupac didn't believe it. They sort of dissing each
(19:03):
other like crazy. Eventually Tupac was killed, Biggie was killed.
Every guys, the record guys that made the money Is
this your number one feud? No, I just have listed
a bunch of them here. Yeah, he was born in Harlem. Yeah,
that's what was weird about the Tupac thing was and
that's why some of them was orchestrated. In my mind,
they gosh and this thing ended in death from death
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of them, and you know, and still people still making
money from them. Sugar Night, He's still he's in jail.
That guy couldn't stop doing crime. Yeah, I know even
after it that. I saw a video recently where he
like ran over some people. I don't know, I don't
know what showed up on my Twitter or something I
watched that. What are you watching right now? Edie's watching
two thousand two World Stars where quarantine? What are you
(19:48):
talking about? Videos to start reserf Kanye Taylor Swift? Yes,
we know that one from them as Terrible Taylor Swift
Katie Perry. They were buddy ish before two. After three
backup dancers left Taylor's Red Tour to join Katie Perry's
Prism Tour, Taylor accused Katie Perry of trying to sabotage
(20:10):
her and then bad Blood was a song it was
about Katy Perry oh was that about Katie supposed right,
Mike that Then in May two thousand seven, Swish Swish
was released from Kati Permember Swish Swish and so it
even had Nicki Minaj. He was also kind of beefing
with Taylor at the time, and they were saying Swish
(20:30):
Swish was almost like Swift Swift. Did you know that?
I know that, That's what I don't know if it's true.
And listen, I have never talked to Katie about this.
We worked together a little bit, but would you ever know.
I'm not that close to kat Katy now talking for
in the same room. We're friendly, but like Luke and
Lione I hang with but you know, um that pop
world's all different world. But yeah, so what I had
(20:53):
heard was Swish Swish was from Katie Perry was swift
Swiss Swift? Yeah, okay, we got a couple more of these.
Axle Row was in Kurt Cobain. Oh, we didn't know
they were feuding. In addition to fighting with Slash, Axel
had another public feud with the late singer of Nirvana.
When Ravana came on the scene. Axel Rose was a
big fan of the band, but when Kurt started bad
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mouthing guns and roses. They started fighting Axel or at
least a tirade during one of his shows, calling Cobain
a fin junkie with a junkie wife. Not wrong, I
mean Courtney Love was pretty junkie. When they met backstage
at the mtvm as in ninety two, Courtney Loved taunted
Axel Rose and exchange words with his girlfriend gen A's
(21:34):
Deaf mccagan and Nirvana's Chris Novoselic then got into it.
It wasn't until cobain suicide the members of both groups
put the feudure rest. After Kurt Cobain h I mean,
I feel like a lot of people fought with Axel
Rose to feel like he just was up for fighting. Yes,
like me the first three years of his brand, just
(21:56):
just swinging at me, just come at me. Sometimes I'll
still get triggered still, well, yes, but I can manage
it better for the most I went off on somebody
prey recently, just to them on Instagram. I had a
radio guy hit me up and was it was like
calling me lazy. You can call me a lot of
things wrong, ugly, stupid. I don't care about any of that.
(22:20):
Never call me lazy triggered because again I tried to respond,
not react. I was typing back faster than I could
finish reading the message. I just I was just ramming him,
and I probably took a couple of those shots, probably take.
I'm not proud of it, but i'll tell you what
I did. Yit me and it was like that's lazy
(22:41):
to do, and I was like, all right, So I
just hammered like three of them, he says on the back,
hammer him again, and then I just muted him. So
I don't even know what he wrote back. So I
never I don't know in my mind, not one because
I just muted him. Kid Rock and Tommy Lee, Yeah,
pam I Underson, Nicki Mina, your Miley Cyrus. They got
(23:03):
into it at the v m as after Nicki Minaj
comment on social media about Taylor Swift and all the nominations.
Prior to host on the show, Miley Cyrus told The
New York Times that the artist remarks quote sounded a
very Nicki Nicki Minaj, which, if you know Nicki Minaj
is not too kind. And then of course they're all
at it trivial sounds like high school should know, yeah, well,
(23:26):
my craft behind all this stuff sounds like high school
except Big Into freaking died, So that's what's up. Huh, Yeah,
it's awesome. I didn't know which what was your favorite?
I mean, obviously Big and Tupac. I like to apologize
for jumping on you for the Luke Bryan's that brown thing.
(23:47):
You don't apologize that you were stupid. But see, you
thought you talked about Axl Rose and Kurt Cobain find
probably about the same thing. Kurt Kurt Cobain was probably like,
what kind of music is that? Man? It's just trash.
Mine's heartfelt and grungy and cool. Mine's not glamb. My
favorite one is probably m hm m hmm. And when
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you say favorite, you're not like condoning it. You're the
most interesting. I'm just kind of looking back at him
against maybe Travis Trent and Billy Ray Cyrus. Oh no,
Johnny Cash, grand ol Opery. That's the winner stuff because
nobody got that's good as good. And then it's a
big deal for them to invite him back. I feel
because didn't they do that with Hank Williams And well, no, no,
(24:32):
there's a difference in getting to play again and being
a member, like I think, what did they do with
with Johnny Cash? They just told not to play? I
don't know his memberships dad offhand, I would assume he's
a member of the Opery and they may have told
him don't come back and not revoked it or did revoke.
I don't know. But Hank Williams, I think they kicked
(24:54):
him out of the Opery and then didn't never play,
didn't read put him back. I think he died. He died.
They probably would have, I bet you over time. I
think so too. Mike, is Johnny Cash remember the operating
he is? Yeah, So they didn't kick him out, he
was just banned. He was, yeah, remember, but sorry, buddy,
(25:14):
you have the jacket, but you can't come back. All right,
thank you guys coming up in a stacle. I like
the Matt Jones love this guy, A big fan of
his work. And we'll get into quarantine music. So what's happening, man?
What is going on? Okay? So on with us right now?
Is Matt Jones from Kentucky Sports Radio, which there is
(25:37):
no sports to talk about. So what do you talk about? Well,
we're only a sports show sort of tangentially. We actually
spend most of the time just talking kind of about
my life and what's going on. So for me, it's
the ability did not have to talk about distraction of
sports very much, is to just be completely self centered
and just talk about whatever is on my mind that day.
(25:59):
So I'm actual we kind of looking forward to So
have you started doing the show in Corona days yet?
And well, I mean we we We've done you know,
we've done a lot of Corona stuff, but I have not.
I've left my house. I'm still going to the the studio,
although tomorrow might be the last day I do that.
I feel like now I might as well just do
it at the house. But I'm gonna be really bored.
(26:21):
It's not so much the sport. That's like not going anywhere,
and that's probably gonna be really exhausting after a while.
I feel like tomorrow will be my last day in
the studio as well. We were just talking about that.
By the way, Eddie, my producer from the radio show
and my comedy part in the in the Raging Idiots,
is here too, So Eddie tide of Matt. What's up, Matt?
How you doing, man? I'm doing great? How are you
(26:42):
what if his answer was totally different when you asked him, well, yeah,
he's told you one thing. It's like, I'm glad you have.
He just seemed I'm gonna be honest with He just
seemed more excited to talk to me. Like when you answered,
it kind of felt like you're like, yeah, whatever, it's Matt.
He seemed very eager, and so I wanted to be
happy for it. So with Matt. In a few minutes,
we're gonna do his five quarantine in songs. But Matt
and I went to dinner. And I've been a big
(27:02):
fan of Mat for a while and so much so
it's like you know somebody on the internet for a
long time, and you know you're you're nervous before the
first date, and it's like we both swiped R eight
and you know we're finally meeting, and so we go
we have dinner together. And I get to dinner and
I arrived probably seven or eight minutes early. You know me,
I'm always a little bit early, never late, always a
(27:24):
little early. And I get there and Matt is knuckles
deep and like his second entree, he's already started eating
at the restaurant when Caitlin and I are going he's
this bowl of edam mommy dumplings has gone, and I'm like,
what's up man? He's like, Man, I've been here for
like forty minutes. Just thought I would get started, like
a little bit off putting. Here's the thing you're talking about,
(27:45):
being nervous. Very rarely do people in the first meeting
one person brings a date and the other persons just
left solo. So I already felt sort of third wheel ish.
And then you know, I thought Nashville would be like
crazy try because you know, we're not from the big
city like you all, and so I thought, oh, I
better like make sure I give time for traffic. And
(28:06):
then of course no one was out because of Corona.
So when I so, I ended up arriving early and
then I'm just sitting there in this restaurant and all
the little foo foo like waiters and like everybody like,
you know, everybody's so hip, and they all have type
jeans and everybody looks kipster and I was, and you know,
I felt uncomfortable in my UK hoodie, and so I
think they had to look like, Okay, dude, are you
(28:27):
gonna order something? You just gonna sit here and stare
at it. And so I felt like an ed a
mom made dumpling was a good like starter course. But yeah,
you clearly we're very like, why are you eating? I
was shaken. It's our first date and you're eating. You
probably already partially full, So the butterflies are gone. We
needed to be an equal butterfly for this. And by
(28:49):
the way, I didn't have a date. My girlfriend and
I are quarantined together, and I was like, hey, I'm
gonna go. And she's a massive sports fan and I
was like, Hey, I'm gonna go and meet this guy
that I've been dating on internet for the past few months.
And I was like, he's cool. We won't care. So
I didn't see it as the third will. I saw
it as just like three. She was. She was delightful,
(29:09):
She's awesome. You you know, I don't you should like
make her a bigger part of your life because I
enjoy I enjoyed her. She was funny, she rolls her
eyes at what you do, which I think is what
somebody like you and I need. So I thought she
was great and I enjoyed it. Listen, I was worried
about this like you're the big star. You're on Dancing
(29:30):
with the Stars and American Idol. I did the Lexington
Dancing with the Stars and came in thirds, not quite
the same as winning the national and and then you're
on American Idol. I I do karaoke at the local bar.
So I was kind of felt a little intimidated. But
for people who listen to this and go, oh, is
Bobby as nice as he seems here, I want to say, yes,
he is. He has he is exactly like you think.
(29:53):
The hair is just as like, you know, has as
much product as you would think, and he's as nice
as you would say, well, and also that's very kind
of you. And he was talking about wearing a Kentucky hoodie.
I show up an oversized sweats and a T shirt
that's too long for me. Like I'm like Sam Hunt
meets christmop Patrick from the nineties, and you look like
you were about to paint a house. Yeah, I mean
if you were wearing all like so, let's not. And
(30:15):
it wasn't a fruit fruit place. It was a place
where you go for healthy food, which fine line, right,
there's a fine line there. But in Kentucky, seeing Kentucky
we don't have those in Kentucky. We don't have like
like when I looked at the menu, they were it
was all words I knew, but that were rarely combined
like eda mom a I knew, dumplings I knew, but
(30:36):
I didn't know that they put those two things together
for an ad a mom a dumpling. So it was
one of those places where everything is like you can
have this here and they don't have anywhere else. It's
a very natural thing. But I enjoyed it. This food
was great and it smelled healthy, like it smelled fresh,
and every drink Bobby got had like thirteen different proteins
in it. It was very nice. So we were talking
(31:00):
about music a bet and in Kentucky, Eddie, if I
say Kentucky country music, who comes to mind right now?
I mean just Blake because of his line in Kentucky,
But Kentucky music, I would go John Michael Montgomery. I
like that. Listen, that's a good call. John Michael Montgomery
is a great dude. And uh it's from Nicholasville. You know,
(31:20):
Kentucky has produced an unbelievable amount of country singers and
in the current world, we're kind of dominating. What I
think is the sort of new wave of country that
Chris Stapleton, Thurgle Simpson, Tyler Childer's branch. So Kentucky has
got a long history and most of the Kentucky country
singers have come from like a forty mile radius in
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the mountain. What do you think that's about? You know,
it's a good question. I think a lot of it
is the culture in those places like this is a
it's kind of where a lot of modern bluegrass, well
older bluegrass music started. And then you know these generations
of singers, so it's in the Paintsful Johnson County, Eastern
Kentucky area, So you had this generation going back of
(32:03):
like started with Tom t. Hall, and then another generation
that had like Patty Loveless and Dwight Yoakum, and then
another generation that was like the Juds and and and
and all this group and now this new one. And
I think it's just, you know, there's a culture. Their
kids grow up playing music at an early age, playing
a very distinctive type of music. There's a university there
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Morehead State that has an entire college devoted to traditional
Mountain music. And I think it just it just ends up,
spurring it from the area. Now, do you know Tyler
Childers a bit? Is that true? Yeah? I mean I
know him. Listen, I'm not. It's not like you like.
I don't. They don't. I don't hang and we don't
like send each other like uh sweet social media messages.
(32:49):
We don't have to roast every question by the way
we can though. I know him a little bit and
he's a great dude. And his music, I mean, it's weird.
I've got to the age where I now will say
that people younger than me are like my favorite artists,
which is really strange. I don't know if that happens
with you guys, but it's weird to say, like, your
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favorite artist or comedian or whatever author is younger than you.
He's younger than me, but he is my favorite musical
artist and it's not even close. I think he's absolutely
off the chart talented, and yeah, I do know him.
He's a really good guy. It is weird when I
enjoy something like a Harry Styles record, because I'm thirty
(33:30):
nine and I really like the Harry Styles record, and
I have to always preface it by going, so my
girlfriends listening to Harry Styles right, and I like it,
but it's the same thing like I do. It is
an odd thing to really enjoy music made by someone
ten years younger than you, even some of the Billie
Eilish stuff. Yeah. I think it's because like when you
really like when you like a singer beyond just like
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liking the beat or whatever, when you really like the
lyrics of what they're saying, there's a part of that
where you're almost saying, this person makes me think or
they're deep or whatever. And it's weird to think that
about somebody younger than you. You're like, how can you
have this life experience that seems so much more thoughtful
than mine? I mean, the older you get, like that's
gonna happen more and more and more. But for Tyler,
(34:15):
he's he is you know, I grew up. I love
Johnny Cash, Willie Nelson, whyl and Jenny like that kind
of group of music. And it's weird to sort of
feel that like same connection with somebody that's, you know,
younger than you, but I have with with his music,
and I think it's just it's it's awesome. Who is
your favorite artist? Pre Tyler? And I'll give you a
(34:36):
second to think about that. Mine has been John Mayer
and Garth Brooks. Garth because I grew up in that
that space of time was that was big in Arkansas.
That's what I think about when it was like pre
grunge when I first started the film music. But John
Mayor was the first because he's him and I roughly
the same age, and he was the first songwriter that
ever wrote lyrics where I felt like I felt that,
I felt that, I felt like I get that. I
(34:57):
get that. So John Mayor and Garth Brooks be mine.
What about you, Matt, I'd probably say Johnny Cash and
Tom Petty. Um, I really, Tom Petty was the first
music that like I connected to at all when I
was in high school. You know, he put that song
out when I was in high school. You don't know
how it feels to be Me, which is a great
(35:17):
song because everybody can think it applies to them like
every moment. You don't know how it feels to be me? Um.
But uh, and then Johnny Cash, to me is the
best musician of all time in modern music. I just
I love everything he did. I love how versatile he was.
He was a rebel. But then also dudes like gospel music.
(35:37):
He just did everything. And I am a a massive
Johnny Cash thing. So what I hear about you is
you love Arkansas music. Oh, listen, I love Arkansas. You know.
One of my favorite songs right now is by a
blue grass group called Town Mountain, and they have a
song called Arkansas Gambler, which I was gonna put on
my list just because of your Arkansas connection, and I didn't.
(36:00):
They're not from Kentucky and everybody on my list from Kentucky.
But yeah, no, I listen. I I don't really like
that you all do the pick Suey chance. But otherwise
I'm a big Arkansas fan. We Arkansas and Kentucky have
a lot of socioeconomically, yes, culturally yes, um, I would
say that we're a bet ahead in sports other than basketball.
(36:22):
Oh come on now, I mean you're not being like
first of all, no, no, let me talk for a second.
Except for basketball. We've had a few bad years two
and seventy five in the last few years, but you
can't look at the last few years as a macro
view of what the program means. Our program is worth
a lot more than yours. We've actually won in the SEC.
(36:43):
We have baseball teams that play for national championships. We
have track teams that win. Nahally we have everything except
right now. Basketball, you have everything except the two sports
people care about right like so like, I mean, listen,
I will grant you your Croka team as much better.
You have nothing in football. You won like four games.
You think you're king dealing in You know, we beat
a lot you. Yeah, it was like to the puff
(37:06):
powders and battling it out. We've actually beat you the
last three times we played you. Once was should we
look at look at all time record Kentucky and Arkansas
would be I don't live in the past. I mean listen,
William Howard tapped was president once. I don't really deal
with that on a daily basis. I talked about what's
(37:27):
happening now, and what's happening now is Arkansas. Of all
the teams in the SEC, you're the one we're second
least proud of. We are having a rough time right now.
Sometimes in life, you have a down. You've never had
a down, Matt in your life. It's all been all
up for you. Yeah yeah, but then you bounce back
better than before. Because I think right now you're thriving,
(37:48):
and that's what Arkansas is about to be. Yes, no,
we we we are. And listen, we both have produced presidents.
You produced Clinton, we produced Oh, I don't know Abraham Lincoln.
So we all have our We're gonna we're definitely not
gonna live in the past. No, No, you can't make
a task and then go link in right after that.
At least got a space that out a little bit. Mike,
(38:10):
do you have overall record? There? Not an updated one.
I don't think he knows what to look at. Matt
doesn't know anything I met. Mike does anything about sports.
Give my lifetime. I'm not I'm not even kidding. I
think in my lifetime we're either three and oh or
three and one against you. I'm not sure. But we
do have a winning record. Put it in basketball, like,
come on, you all haven't beating us. You're beating us once.
(38:31):
I think in like years, I'm not arguing about basketball. Yeah,
there's nothing there. Okay, what we're doing now, off, I'll
produce this information. What we're doing now is Matt has
given us five songs that he's quarantining himself up with.
Make a big playlist out of this and so he's
the first one to pop his five songs on the
list What is your first quarantine song for the playlist?
(38:53):
Matt Well, First of all, I picked all Kentucky artists.
I mean these I'm not gonna say these are my
five favorite artists of all time. But if I'm gonna
being quarantined in Kentucky, I'm gonna represent Kentucky. The first
one I picked was Dwight Yoakum Guitars, cadillacs and He'll
billy music. Here you go. And the reason I picked
Dwight is Dwight, to me has the most unique next
(39:17):
to George Jones, the most unique country voice of all time.
He's from the Hills and he sounds like it and
I'm a massive fan. And this, to me is sort
of his best song, because what else do you want? Guitars,
cadillacs and he'll billy music, all right, turn it out?
Who litle bit, here we go. You know what's weird
is and you can knock that down is I've I
(39:39):
think of him as being from California. Yeah, I'm not Kentucky.
Same here, So I mean you still think that he
ran I'm just saying when he still lives in California, right.
I saw him about eight months ago and he was
living in California. No, No, And he does the whole
Bakersfield thing. And I think you could say in some
ways his musical style is probably more influenced by that.
(40:02):
But if you listen to his lyrics, especially his early lyrics,
they're all Kentucky centric. He sings a lot about Cole,
he sings a lot about mountain life, and so he
I mean, he I think would consider himself as much,
if not more so, California. But his lyrics, especially in
the era that I really like, we're very much Kentucky centric.
(40:23):
And I don't want my friends from Kentucky thinking of
bagging on them. I'm just going after Matt because he goes,
you can't use Taft and then he uses Lincoln. That's
the only unfair part of the argument. To be fair,
Lincoln is a pretty good card to play. I mean,
Lincoln is, you know, the best president. Everyone agrees Lincoln
is the best president, except Trump, who tries to say
argue he is. But Lincoln is is pretty much university.
(40:47):
I agree. I love Abraham Lincoln. Controversial take. I love
Abam I was about to say, he's pro Abraham. Here's
the other thing. Did you know this, he's pro Martin
Luther King to absolutely listen. If we're really stretching it,
I'm gonna say this. You know who's cool? The Pope?
(41:09):
Yeah listen. And you know who I'd like to hang with, Jesus? Yeah,
way back? All right? What's your second song on your list? So?
I was I you I wanted to have a female artist.
I'm growing up. I'm actually grew up loving the Judge.
And then I thought about it, and I want to
though I don't Judd sing a lot of sad songs.
(41:30):
So I picked whine Nona or Is. My grandma used
to call her whine owner. Whine Owner Judge song girls
with guitars, which has a great So if I'm sad
while i'm quarantine, I can play this riff and I'm happy.
Do you play guitar? Not at all? No, But it
(41:51):
also has been skill on it. A good Nashville person
there too. He's the one singing the male part of that. Alright,
turn this up, Mike, all right, what else you got me? So?
My next one is one that probably a lot of
your listeners aren't familiar with. Don't insult my listeners by
the way, maybe they are. But Tom T. Hall. So
(42:12):
my uncle was a book editor and he edited Tom T.
Hall's book, and so as a kid, I would see
Tom T. Hall. He he was friends with my uncle,
and I didn't realize that he was like a songwriting lets.
He just went to the Songwriters Hall of Fame with Missy, Missdemeanor,
Elliott and John Pryme this year. But he has written,
as you know, a zillion songs, including ones that people
(42:33):
don't even know he wrote, like Harper Valley p p A.
But my favorite of them, and I picked this one
in part because you're Arkansas and Razorbacks is Who's Gonna
Feed Them Hall, which is about a man in a
hospital bed so he can't get out, and all he
cares about is who's gonna feed his Hall? Here, I
am Who's gonna feed them home? His face was lean
(42:57):
and his hands were rug his way. I don't know
I've ever heard that dig it Yeah, And you know
it sounds like feed Jake is derivative of feed them hogsty.
That's a good call. If I die before I wake,
feed Jack, that's the way. Well, the thing about that song,
it includes the line that I like he says, there's
(43:19):
four hundred hogs and they're just standing out there, which,
if you think about, is what hogs do? They don't
do anything, They just stand there. I like Tom t
hogs for you. I picked the hogs. Okay, what else
you got? All right? The best voice, in my opinion,
just the best pure male voice in the history of
country music, is Keith Whitley. I think Keith Whitley from
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Kentucky often forgotten his most famous song when you say
Nothing at All. Most people remember more Prowess and Kraussburg.
But I think his baritone is the best voice country
music has ever had. And so I didn't want to
pick one of his really sad songs like tell Laurie
I Love Her might be as sad as song that's
ever been written. So I picked Miami, Miami, as well
(44:02):
as my next one, jam Bay so good. Sing along there,
all right, and we have one more? What do you got,
Matt Well? I couldn't get out of here without picking
Tyler so a lot. You know, people who know Tyler
Childer's they know like Feathered Indians and some of the
popular but its most beautiful song. It's called follow you
(44:24):
to Virgie. It's about going to his friend's grandma's funeral.
You won't be able to play at all, I understand,
but I would encourage people to listen to it. It's gorgeous,
it's and he sounds more like Eastern Kentucky mountains in
this song than any singer you'll ever hear. And now
I will follow you to Virgie because that's what us
(44:45):
boys for, to help you out when you get weird
and you can't go no more. I also looked up
while we were having this conversation famous people from Kentucky,
oddly a lot, Abraham Lincoln, Johnny Depp, Mohammad Ali. Correct,
(45:06):
they're all correct. You don't have to, all right if
you cut off the part that made me cry and
that's song. But yes, I was just trying to help.
I can give you other ones, George, I'm not done,
all right. Jennifer Lawrence, George Rosemary Clooney, Loretta Lynn, Jennifer Carpenter.
(45:27):
I don't know who that is. I don't know who
Jennifer Carpenter is. You mentioned Loretta Land when I was
talking about the cut of music theater. I forgot about
from from Coal Miner's daughter, Nicola sha is from freaking Kentucky. Yeah,
I said, Nikolay, it's a really nice guy. I was
gonna make a joke, but I won't. He's actually a
really nice dude. Have you watched Love Is Blind? I have.
(45:50):
I I can't get through it. I cringe. It just
everyone makes me cringe so much that I can't watch it.
Do you like it? My girlfriend got me into it,
and I wouldn't have watched it by myself, and I
wouldn't have stayed with it by myself. But we enjoyed
watching it together because, Yeah, I gave us something to
talk about what will happen. It's it's an interesting concept
(46:12):
to you put people together and you see what happens
if they can't see each other. So I will say, yes,
I enjoyed it, but I think it was because of
the overall experience we had more so than the show.
Well that's what we all hope is for your experience
to be good while you watched it, um, and I'm
glad about that. Two of the Backstreet Boys, by the way,
Brian Latrelle and Kevin Richardson, also from Kentucky. Jefferson C.
(46:34):
Jefferson Davis, Jefferson Davis. Yeah, I don't talk about now.
I think we should have been a second on Jefferson Davis.
Shall we the former president of the Confederate States, So yeah,
they Lincoln and you have Jefferson caused any controversy. But
I don't talk a lot. I can to like my
famous people to have not tried to succeed from the Union.
I prefer people who stayed with us through kick and
(46:55):
san So that's why I'm not a big Jefferson Davis.
Rondo is from Kentucky. Rondo played at Kentucky. But yeah,
but that doesn't mean he's from You guys should pay
athletes from all over the Yeah, well, I mean we
took your best food when we took Malik Monks, so
it worked out really well. Yeah, that's true. I can't
argue with that one. Listen, now, Rondo is from Kentucky. Uh, athletically,
(47:16):
let's see, um, Paul Hornick don't talk. We get with
the athletic one. Nobody cares. Yeah, exactly. You don't know
who Paul horniget like for the Packers that won the
first two old Old school art star Well, yeah, but
he's not from the same just went by a different name. Hey, Matt,
talking about your talking about your book for a second. Yeah,
(47:38):
So I wrote a book that is called Mitch Please.
It comes out in a couple of weeks and it
is about Mitch McConnell, but it's really about Kentucky. I
went to all hundred and twenty counties in Kentucky and
I sort of wanted to see what the effect of
having Mitch McConnell, the human turtle as our senator has
been and for people who don't know, I considered run
(48:00):
against him. So I sort of told the story about
considering running against him. I went to every county. It's funny,
it's kind of a travelog. It's also sort of an
indictment of McConnell. And I do think people will like it.
Um it's a little bit of everything. And I'm very excited.
And I've never written a book before and I wrote
one in just a couple of months, and I'm nervous
(48:20):
about it, but I had a great time. We'll take
it from this two time New York Times bestseller. Oh yeah, listen,
I will take whatever advice you have. John Grisham, I
have no advice. Just hold on tight. Because I don't
know what I was doing either. Um so this these podcasts, obviously,
these get listened to for weeks and weeks weeks, ares
do We don't really have a It's not like a
daily thing. So what what? What day does the book
(48:43):
come out? Though? Because some people may be hearing right now,
they say the book comes out March thirty first. Now,
of course, Corona might be changing everything. I'm not sure,
but as of now, it's Marks thirty first. You can
order it on Amazon. I don't know if bookstores will
still exist in Marks thirty one the way this is
all going, but uh, you can order it on Amazon.
They'll deliver it to you. It's a perfect thing to
(49:03):
read while you're quarantine. And uh, and it has a
great cartoon on the front of it as well. And
it's called Mitch Please, which you know is a play
on on on on on Bitch please. But that was
the nicest one I could do with his name. I
was gonna do Mitch better have my money. But all right,
there is follow him at k Y Sports Radio. Uh.
(49:26):
In all seriousness, I'm such a fan of what you do.
And you know, I was a fan long before we met.
I just think how you do it and what you do,
especially in this day of age and the day and
age when you know it's hard to find distinct voices.
And I don't mean texture or tone of how you talk,
but I mean people that you really listen to what
they have to say. And you're one of those. And
I'm happy now that I consider your friend. Well, that
(49:49):
is very kind. I consider you a friend and I
do want to I want to say this because I
know people, uh people have a connection to you. And
this is the thing that's the best about It is
very rare for people to have a high degree of
success and want to bring along others to sort of
like kind of reach and help people. You've done that
with me, and I can't thank you enough for that.
(50:10):
That's there are so few people in the industry that
will do that, and you have with me, and I
consider you a friend as well, and I really appreciate
all Right, Matt, have a good Corona quarantine and we'll
talk to you soon. Thank you very much.
Host
Bobby Bones
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