Lauren Daigle talks to Bobby about what it was like for her growing up in Louisiana. How she got started doing music because of an illness, not originally setting out to be a Christian artist, auditioning for American Idol and being quarantined in Georgia. Ketch from Old Crow Medicine Show talks about how he started out busking back in the 90s, what an OCMS road show is like and their biggest song “Wagon Wheel” which he co-wrote with Bob Dylan. Ketch said he still has never met Bob Dylan. Ketch also talks about approving the lyric changes made by Darius Rucker. They have a new song coming out called “Nashville Rising” to benefit the Nashville tornado victims.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
M H. Welcome to episode to thirty eight. We will
talk to Lauren Daegel as she has quarantined and a
state that I didn't think she'd be quarantine detrol be
coming on a little bit, and talk to Catch from
Oakro Medicine Show, Uh too. Guests we've never had on
and we were gonna have both in the studio, and
the quarantine got us, so we will talk to them
(00:21):
both on the phone. But we have some music artists
coming up. I don't want to talk about new music
out this week. For example, lady Like, which is Ingrid
Andrew's first album. It's her debut album and it has
this song more hearts than mine, I guess. And she
also has another song that wasn't put out until her
(00:43):
record came out, called The Stranger See Place. She's really good.
Ingrid and I have been friends for a long time
and her first ever radio performance was on the show
and she played Ladylike. If we're playing lady Like and
(01:05):
I also like to that's only eight songs on the record.
I can listen and actually listen to eight songs before
I decide what I like, because there's a like fourteen
songs I'm listening in the first seven seconds, I'm like, no,
I'm not like some of them. Look when Ed Sheeran
puts out his twenty seven tracks and I like Ed Sharon,
but that whole duo duet album he did, there's a
(01:25):
lot of tracks, right. I don't think I got through that,
or I didn't get through it fairly because I would
be like, there's so many tracks here, I'm just gonna
go through and see if I liked first fifteen seconds.
I do like an eight song album. If you're gonna
put that mini and called an album, I prefer an
EP these days, unless it's my favorite artist. How many
tracks that have Let's see, it's so many you can't
(01:47):
even get through it is. There's some great songs to
and some songs I discounted earlier. They are not big hits,
but I I didn't give them enough time on that. Yeah,
too much. Let's do about eight, nine, nine, nine, a
bit too much. But when they do twelve and thirteen,
(02:08):
I just know there's five songs. I'm not going to
be able to really focus on. Decatur Country read excuse me,
Decatur County red from Jesse, Alexander. She's written hits for
Blake Shelton, Miley Cyrus, and Lee Bryce. This is our
first album of new material since two thousand and four.
(02:28):
And we'll play Mama Drink first because she come up
on the radio show and played this song here You Go,
What Night. And she has a song with Randy Howser
called Country Made Me Do It. I like Jesse a lot.
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Jesse and I have served on boards together where we've
kind of been each other his entertainment during really long
board meetings. Um, so we got to be friends through that.
And then she's done the Bobby Cast. We did a
whole long episode with her when she wrote Miley Cyrus
as the Climb, Lee Bryce, I Drive your Truck, Blake
Shelton a bunch of stuff. So it's cool that her
record is out. Just enjoy her anyway. Sophia Scott, new
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female artist, has a song called Beauty and the Flaws.
Whether wanna be always running past? They really need to
phone trying to catch it all? Is? It ain't about
how much you may and that ain't no dream to
chase it all down. People that you love in the
(03:48):
places that you saw funny peace in case, Beauty and
Flaw go Florida. Georgia Line has a song called I
Love My Country, My Counto, Strings and Fields and song
until laugh Sounds. Monday, Kane Brown put out a song
(04:12):
with John Legend called last Time I Say Sorry, I
Can won't see us. The interesting thing about that Kane
was talking on a radio show about this and he
just got a calls like, hey, you want to right,
So he goes to the studio and writes with him.
He's like, oh my god, and him and John Legend right,
and they recorded right then, like they wrote at the studio,
which is something that doesn't happen here in Nashville. Lot
(04:35):
Kit Moore has a new song called wild World Baby
Slow Swan, and he has he announced his records coming
out soon too. Huh yeah, let's see. I guess do
a Leapa put out her record which is a big deal, right.
(04:56):
I know her because my girlfriend loves her that goes
to church with her. Really Yeah, that's cool. Here is
Don't Start Now and the album is called Future Nostalogists.
I guess the whole album's done. That makes sense because
I've been seeing people mostly females in their mid twenties
young thirties. Instagram story about it. Five seconds of Summer
(05:19):
put out a record I'm trying to see if I
know anybody else, a self titled album from count singer
James Robert Webb, who's also a real life physician. Yeah,
I know, don't do we have new music? Okay, but
I did see that was out there too, so decent
amount of music. It's just weird that they're putting it
(05:43):
out in the whole world is kind of focused on
the news and Corona and what can we do? And
we're trapped. And I wonder, because I saw the metrics
that streaming music is way down, I wonder why that is.
I don't know. I feel like BO aren't in the
mood for new music right now, but just streaming music
(06:03):
in general has been down. But I guess I haven't
streamed much music. I guess you're not driving as much,
so driving or running or work at the gym. Yeah,
maybe I find it's out of my routine now, me too.
As I was going, I don't know why I started
think back in unless I'm take getting out of the
shower and I yelled at lexit to play something, because
I don't just sit around the house listening to music.
It's when I'm doing something and it's all the things
(06:24):
I'm not doing anymore. That's a good point because when
I read that, I was like, why would I would
feel like it would be up because I was anything
to do. But maybe it's because everybody has nothing to do,
including Yeah, because I definitely haven't turned of music on. Okay,
well that's what's up. That's music out. Check out Mike's
(06:44):
podcast called Movie Mike's Movie Podcast. Check out Kelly Henderson's
podcast The Velvet's Edge. A lot of interesting if you're
a female in your late twenties to mid thirties early forties, Yeah,
I think this podcast is for you. Um So check
out The Velvet's Edge with Kelly Henderson. And that's the deal.
We're gonna take a little break, come back. Talk to
Lauren Dagle. I talked to Catch from Okro Medicine show.
(07:07):
Thank you guys, about to talk with Lauren Dagle. Here
is you say from Lauren That song is funny feeling
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to me because you know how you hear a song
and it reminds you of a certain place in your life.
I didn't know Lauren when this when she was performing
this on Dancing with the Stars. I had met her
pre the finale and she was singing this song on
the finale. I didn't know she was going to sing
it over when we were getting ready to go out
to actually win the Mirror Ball, right, And so I
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saw Lauren and I went up to her and said hello,
and we did some rehearsal stuff together, kind of getting
ready for the show. She was super nice, she was
I live in Nashville, and I'll mention this coming up
with her. But Keith Urban as the one that kind
of put me onto her, and then he mentioned her
on my show too. I was like, hey, Lauren Daego,
She's uh, I mean, it's really great. And so she
had mentioned that to me and so we kind of
we're talking back and forth and nobody expecting me to
(08:15):
win that show dance one of the stars, and so
we made a bet. I said okay, because her manager
was there too, and everybody's in Nashville. It's like, all,
if I win, we're all going to dinner. And um
I ended up winning, and so we weren't able to
go to dinner before she left. And those world tours
that they do, they don't come back home. It's not
like country tours, we're they go away for Thursday, Friday Saturday,
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or like my tours where I go away for Thursday,
Friday Saturday or Friday Sat or whatever. They you away
come back flight four or five months um. And so
we become pretty friendly after that. And then anyway I
win the show. But on that finale part where we're
all standing there, they show a clip of you throughout
the whole season. It's like the last five minutes of
the show. On the finale of my season to day
(09:00):
some of the stars, there were four teams and it
would go Bobby and Sharna and they will show clips
of us with the season, and in the background was
her singing the song live right behind us, and so
she's performing live, they're doing the clips. Everybody's kind of emotional,
and then as soon as she finishes her song, they're
like in the winter is and then it was boom
(09:20):
Bobby and Charness. Every time I hear the song when
it comes on the radio, it comes up in like
my streaming or on satellite play sometimes on the pop channel,
it just reminds me of that time I'm dancing with
the stars. And that's also how she's here now too,
because you know. I met her then, but that song
Believe and I'm like, oh my god, it's about that
(09:42):
happening about the winner about but yeah, yeah, um. She
has some number one Christian songs. That's one of them.
Trusting You as another one. She has Back to God
featuring Reba down obviously she as you say. And then
(10:09):
she put out the Christmas Song, which is the public
domain song. She's just re singing it. What number one?
Here you going on the fie. So Jack really a
big fan of Lauren, and I think she's about she's
by the way, let me say this. She has a
new podcast called day Go Bytes coming out real soon.
(10:30):
The first episode is March twentie. Oh so it's already out. Okay,
well maybe I should subscribe now, caught me. I don't
subscribe yet, but that's that. Day Goal Bytes is the
first episode of her new podcast, Hey Lauren, how are you? Hey?
How's it going? Where are you? How are you? Where
am I? Yeah? I'm in Georgia. Are you? Are you
(10:52):
traveling back? Or are you just staying in Georgia for
a while. I'm quarantining currently in Georgia. I was doing
my best to travel back. I grabbed my car because
I was like, you know what, I just don't know, um,
how long this quarantine is gonna last. So I think
I'm going to drive down to Louisiana and I didn't
(11:16):
get very far, but you know, it is what it is.
I I saw what you had to announce that the
tour was going to be postponed. So when did that
decision get made? Um, we made that. Gosh, that was um,
maybe the Grand Rapids Show. So like I think the
(11:37):
twelve something like that of March we had to. Um,
it was kind of one of those moments where it
was an hour by hour, like we get a call
from the CDC. It's say, we're gonna postpone all even
so larger than a thousand people two for the next
two weeks, and then it was like for the next month,
(11:58):
and then it was like for the next seven weeks,
and they just kept pushing back back back, and so, um, yeah,
we're not I don't know the exact dates that everything
quite yet, but we're not canceling, which is good. It
just means we're just having to move at all. Have
you talked to your family at home? I was watching
this morning that New Orleans is really struggling. Like they're
(12:19):
one of the real hot spots now as far as
like New York, l A, Chicago, New Orleans with coronavirus.
Have you talked to down there having a good old
time and then everybody got the dad gums virus? I mean,
it's not funny. I told I told my friend the
other day, I said, you know why New Orleans is
(12:41):
the next hot spot? It's because we're We're a culture
that just loves being with people. We love being around
each other. We share everything. It's like, come on inside,
I got a cup of pot of coffee. Oh you
need a different cup, you know what I mean. It's
like we're just very communal and um it's so vibrant.
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The culture is so vibrant, so rich and so alive
and um, so it makes sense to me as to
why it would be the next the next hotspot. People
don't really stay away from each other too much. But
I have some friends down there that up and calling
pretty much every day FaceTime and every day and just saying,
all right, all y'all doing, how's everybody holding up? And
(13:21):
one of my friends was like, we decided to stay
home and we're building chicken coops and we ordered chickens
and and seeds and stuff. I'm like, of course, there
you go, New Orleans quirk. I love it. What was
like growing up for you? I love a fiah. It
was very rich in in culture and um, whenever I
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was a kid, it was you know, my grandfather who
put me on his feet and he would teach me
how to dance. And then you know, you'd go into
all the zytic rooms and people are playing the washboard
and the accordions and it's generational, you know, past down
from one family member to the next. And I think
that says a lot about our culture. It's very where
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I came from, it was pretty hippy, honestly, Like there
were a lot of people that. Um, it was like
where the oil field and art collided, like Lapia is.
The city was a lot of oil, a lot of
business there. But there's this like kind of sective people
that you know, make everything from scratch and play music
(14:30):
all the time and create. It's very creative. Um. People
are always you know, creating festivals and different things like
that just to bring people together. And I remember as
a child, we we had this thing called Festival International
and every year, um lat Yett would host this and
(14:51):
it was it was named one of the world's largest
free festivals. UM and I think like over a hundred
thousand people or something would each year. But um, the
beauty of it was it was this celebration of culture,
and so people from all over the world would fly
and perform like their traditional African dances like from the
(15:15):
congo or you know, certain things from South America and Canada,
lots of French music and so it was really diverse
and really beautiful. Um to see Lafayette like celebrate something
so so um unique honestly, and so I think something
about growing up underneath that musical influence. Um, it really
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inspired me and kind of I would say that was
probably one of the most influential things I was a
part of as a kid. I think I, like a
lot of people that are listening to this show right now,
probably started to learn of you in the last couple
of years, Like we were kind of late to the
Lauren Dagel train, and I think you are talking about this.
(16:01):
At one point I knew of you because Keith Urbone
was like, hey, you should listen to Lauren Dagle, Like
he told me that that he came on my show
and said that as well. So when I started to
look up some of the early stuff about you comment
on this because I didn't know this. It says Lauren
did not consider music seriously until contracting a debilitating illness.
She claims it was one of the best things that
happened to her. What what is that little block of
(16:23):
what happened there? Okay, I don't know how how debilitating
it quite was. You know, that might be where that
was expanded upon, but um, yeah, it's actually it's true.
When I was in high school, Um, I was diagnosed
with this virus that put me on homebound four about
eighteen months. And um, honestly, I went to a college
(16:48):
preparatory school. It was very academics driven. Um, I knew
I always wanted to sing. Like growing up, they did,
what do you want to be when you grow up?
And I say, how would be a singer? Because I
would love listening to you Whitney Houston and to Len
Beyond and these women that had these powerhouse voices and stuff.
And I'd sing all over the house and make up
melodies or whatever. And it was I guess about my
(17:11):
eighth grade year ninth grade year when it was kind
of like okay, but what are you really gonna do? Um?
And I remember my my grandfather sitting me down and saying, okay,
come on, what are you thinking of? What do you
want to do? And for some reason, I just adopted
that I can't really do music, like that's just some
pipe dream. I'm gonna go into the medical field because
(17:32):
I love anatomy. I love biology. It's fascinating to me.
So um, I end up kind of in my mind
thinking I'll probably go into something medical. Well, right as
I started kind of gearing my world for that, um,
I end up getting this illness. And because I was home, Um,
(17:53):
I would just sing all the time, like uh, it
was basically the only thing that I could do that
wasn't allowed me to dream and allowed me to create.
And my mom put me in voice lessen because it
wasn't too hard on my my body and kind of
kept me out of depression and helped with it, if
you will, And so um, yeah, I really is. It
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became therapy for me. It became like just a source
of healing during that time. And because of it, I
feel like that's why I sing the songs that I
do now. It's because if I walked through something that
was difficult or painful, isolating lonely, um, maybe I can
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make music that inspire someone who's walking to that same situation.
You know, at what point, though, when you're singing, do
you realize, well, I'm actually really good. And I don't
mean that in a funny way, but when did you
realize that you were better than even the local contemporaries
for you? So, okay, this is funny because I feel
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like I've really struggled with confidence for a long time
as far as if I was good or not. Um,
my mom would hear me singing all over the house
and she went to our choir director at church and said,
my daughter sings. I have no idea if she's good
or not. But if you like meet someone in the
back road the choir, please call her. And he said,
(19:22):
come on around in the back of the church. I
want to I want to see what you seem like.
And he had me sing this song and I was
really cheepish about it, and he said, Laurence, I've heard
you sing like I mean, i've heard you laugh, and
so I know that you can you can built And
I was like okay, and so I just went for it,
and he said, get ready because in two weeks you're
(19:42):
gonna start singing that song in church. And I remember
in that moment feeling like and Okay, this is kind
of exciting, this is like a shred of hope. Maybe
I can do this. Well. Then after a couple of
months of singing that church, everybody did the classic you
gotta go on American Idle. So I went. I tried
(20:02):
out for American Idol, and um that was in Atlanta,
and I remember there was ten thousand people there and
I got a golden ticket after all those ten thousand people,
And so that was kind of when I was like, huh, well,
am I only good for like my little community? Or
am I good for the states? Or am I good
(20:24):
for the country or my good for the world? Like
how do you measure this? And I think going on
American Idol gave me a boost of confidence. But I
got cut at the point where you can go onto
the the live shows, and so that was me having
to wrestle, Okay, are you gonna actually believe in yourself
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a little bit? Um? And I think I went back
home and I started singing and random bands and stuff,
and we would sing cover gigs all over the the city.
And I went to L s U and I took
voice you know with L s U. And there were
just so many things that I think slowly but truly
started building my confidence along the way. UM. And so
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I would say American Idol was one moment and I
was like, UM, maybe I maybe I actually have a voice.
And then UM, another time was um, whenever I was
getting signed by the record label. Um, that was another
moment that I was like, is this a joke? Like
is this really happening? Am I really good? Am I
(21:32):
like good enough for a record label? Too? Invest in?
Like there were all these questions, Um, but they were
and so they were kind and it helps grow me.
And now we're here, and you know, it's so funny, Bobby,
is that I feel like there are so many different
stages in this industry. You know, there's so many different
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moments and UM, sometimes you feel like, wow, how am
I getting a chance to be here? And sometimes I've
got to keep working hard so that I can get
to the next spot. And I feel like the that push,
UM makes me want to keep learning. So even though
I'm in this space that I'm in right now. All right, Well,
(22:18):
what qualifies me to go to the next level? Or
how can I um train myself or even in times
like the quarantine, like learn something new that is going
to keep me excelling um to reach the next bar?
You know, I feel like that quest and that journey
for Okay, Well, am I good enough for this? Or
(22:40):
do I have potential here? Um? I think that's probably
gonna exist in me until I die. And I think
there's something really here's something good about that. You know.
You bring up American Idol. It's I've been working on
the show for three years now, and what I talked
with him about off the camera. You're one of the examples.
And I used to one as Hillary Scott from d A,
(23:00):
who's who's I'm close friends with? And the other one
is you, and that it's never an on camera moment,
but it's an off moment to tell people just because
you didn't make the show means you just weren't right
for the show. It doesn't mean that, It doesn't mean
you're not good, doesn't mean you don't have your own style,
Does you have your own thing? You just weren't right
for this one little lane of a TV show that's
happening right this second. And so you know your story
(23:23):
is one did you try it more than once? So
just do it one time. I did. I tried out.
So the first year I tried out, I made it
to the end of Hollywood Week. Second year I tried out,
didn't even make it to Hollywood it was brutal, had
the flu. And then the third year made it to
the end of Hollywood Week and then went to Las
Vegas as when they were doing that, and then I
got cut after off Vegas Wow three times and that
(23:47):
in It Isn't a wild You're here now And I
think you mentored last season or the season before, right, Yeah,
it was amazing last season. It was honestly one of
the most exciting things I had done in my career
so far. I told Leave my manager, I was like,
I would do that any day, Like there is something
(24:09):
so it's so real about just encouraging someone who's at
the very very beginning of their journey, Like, uh, that
I can understand why you would go on the show
and kind of like be a voice for those people
because it's it's exhilarating and there's so much potential behind
these people. It's it's amazing to be a part of it.
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Did you always set out when you started to go
I can do music? Did you just always set out
to go down the Christian lane? No, It's funny. Whenever
I was sick, like back in that season, when I
was really sick, I would always say, God, I'll do music.
But I never want to sing Christian music. I like
did not want to be a part of that at all.
(24:52):
One is because I did not want my friends to
make fun of me. Um. I was so against that.
It was just because I wanted, um, something sonically different,
and I didn't know if what I like, what I
really loved, would fit that format. Um. But I knew
that the hope that I was given when I was sick,
(25:14):
because like I would have these crazy dreams like I
thought I was having cabin fever, like losing my mind,
you know. Um, but I would have these dreams and um,
while I was while I was at home, and it
would be of me on stage or what'sin a ward
(25:35):
or art or song or whatever, and they were so
vivid and so real. Um. And then like years later
when they actually started happening, I was like Oh my gosh,
these are these are those dreams that I was shown
like when I was like fifteen and sixteen. Um. And
so I think the hope that I was given during
(25:58):
that time to just hang on and I would research
all like so many stories about different actors or business
owners that went through a really hard time. Um, how
did they overcome it? How did they use their difficulty
or the obstacle um to be kind of a platform
in which they launched from instead of like the space
that overcame them. Um. And in that I found just
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so much hope in Jesus. And so I remember saying,
I don't want to sing Christian music, but I want
to sing music that brings hope to people. And then
the first record label that called was a Christian label,
and I was like, well, this is an open door.
And they've been so kind and they've been such great
partners the entire way. It's been wonderful. You did mission
(26:47):
work too, right, um, a little bit. I went to
I feel like I do more mission work now, which
is funny. But I went to um Africa once, who
went and visited some hospital old and then I went
to Brazil helped build a church when I was like eighteen. Um.
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But and then went to Tuscaloosa when all the tornadoes
came through and helps clean up and do things like that.
One fun thing when I was a kid there. This
is pretty awesome. Myum my parents are just there are
people that would just give the shirt off their back,
you know. And Katrina came through and wiped out in
(27:31):
New Orleans when we were in Lafayette two hours away,
and so a lot of people in New Orleans came
to Lafayette to kind of seek refuge with nothing. I mean,
they had nothing. And people think that the quarantine is
is intent, and it is and it's I was telling
a friend, how similar to Katrina that that dis quarantine
(27:51):
is because we had no waters, no water in the
um you know, grocery stores, all the gas was out
and things like that. Um, just because so many people
were trying to get as much as it possibly could. Well.
UM my parents went and made these huge parts of
(28:12):
gumbo and brought us down to the Red light district
as like you know kids, we were probably ten years
old maybe and um brought us down to the red
light district and we served gumbo. We would go and
knock on all the motel doors and say see that
table down there, that there's free gumbo down there. Come
on down. We got potatoes, salt and gumbo. We'll serve you.
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And so you'd see all these people just coming out
of their hotel rooms, motel rooms or whatever. And it
was so special just to see such a diverse and
unique group of people coming together over food and in
a time that everything felt chaotic and wild. And I
think that that built love for humanity inside of me,
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you know, in a way that sometimes words don't. Sometimes
you have to experience it um like that, like where
it's really real. So yeah, those are some of the
mission stories from when I was a kid. And I'm
always curious about when songs start to cross over because
it happens where I come from the country, and I've
(29:18):
worked on the formats too, But when your song starts
to cross over and go from big in the Christian
world and Christian radio to pop radio, how wide does
your reach get and how quickly does that happen? Yeah?
That was wild. So it happened very organically, honestly, Like
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whenever whenever I put out Look Up Child the record. Um,
I didn't have a mainstream label or anything like that
to kind of crossover across the record over um and
you say, was on Christian radio at the time, and
then main mainstream program directors would just start playing it.
(30:00):
And a lot of the program directors that I talked to,
you said, their wives would come in and say, I
heard this song on Pandora or Spotify or whatever. Can
you play this on the record. I just love it.
I just think that you would love this, and I
think people would love And it was a lot of
wives honestly that you know, got it on there, which
is really funny. But um, so organically they started adding
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the song and after that I was like, okay, well,
well we gotta get a mainstream radio team, so we signed.
It's kind of funny we actually signed to the record
label after it was already starting to get onto the radio,
onto mainstream radio. And the difference, Uh, when something like
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that happens, it it takes it from one one people
group and spreads it so far and wid um And
you know, the craziest thing is when you're like you're
in Europe or you're in all of these random continent
countries and people are singing the words to your songs,
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so emphatically, like in a way that I'm like, oh
my gosh. These people have lived with this music, they
have absorbed this music as their own. And I think
that's what's so profound about crossing over is the numbers multiply,
pretty intensely, um, as far as the amount of people
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that you're you're able to reach. I was looking at
some of the stuff you're you were talking about, and
you talk about the Price Fund, which I think is
very interesting. Would you talk about that for a second,
The Price Fund, which is the school the school launches. Yes,
oh that okay. So the sweet girl who works on
the management team, her name is Liz, and she said, Lawrence,
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there's um a lot of things going on with these
kids who um aren't they're they're used to getting lunches
every at school or breakfast every day at school. Um,
and now that school is being shut down temporarily, you know,
they don't have a way of getting food. And um,
there was this picture on I followed this Instagram feed
(32:18):
called Nolan News, and um, Nolan News posted this little
girl she's like three years old and it said where
a family in need, anything helps, and like the caption
was the mother had just gotten laid off from her
philebotomy job, um, and they were just trying to get
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anything they could. And you know, if that is going
to be the shape of the world, um, I want
to do everything I can to just help people in
a moment of crisis or concerned and thinking about those kids,
I was like, yeah, there's absolutely no way that we
can't help them. So I'm pretty pumped. People were really generous.
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And I think a lot of times, you know, people
get scared in times like these, People are unsure in
times like these. Um. But to see people say, you know,
I'm not gonna let the fear control this. I men
still give and help people that that need it, you know.
And so I'm so excited. I don't know quite yet
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what number we're at, but I know it's it's been
going really well. Well it's great to finally talk to
you under weird circumstances, for sure, but I'm glad you're
say if I hope you are able to get home.
They're starting to put restrictions on people a crossing state
lines now you can you can't even go from Louisiana
to Texas, not that you're trying to go to Texas.
But because of the amount of coronavirus in Louisiana, they're
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shutting down that that trip at Tech. You can't get
into Florida now, so I don't know if you got
a map with you, but you may have to do
some like get out of the car run across the border.
But I'm talking about state borders here. Yeah, backroad action. Well, Lauren,
to talk to you. Be safe. Congratulations on everything. Everybody
can follow Lauren at Lauren Underscore Daego and hopefully I'll
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see around town sting Lauren when everything's normal. Thanks Bobby,
thanks for having me. All right by Lauren? Okay, okay,
catch Do you live over by Amy that she saw
you and you guys were talking the other day by this. Yeah,
I live over by Amy. I live for about four
doors down from Amy, maybe six. You're that close. Huh. Yeah,
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she's right down the street. Our kids play together sometimes
and UM, she's wonderful her husband. You're doing a home schooling.
Are you having to teach or are the classes given
to you and you kind of observe them learning? Um.
You know, it's kind of it's pretty cool getting to
be super engaged with their learning. UM. But the school
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you know, Um, I started the school. It's uh, this
is the school that I started down the street from me,
and I'm the chairman of the board and the founder.
That's sort of been my you know, all of us
in the country music business, we were charitable people, were
charitable types. For me, my charitable pursuits run me straight
into education because that's my family business. My parents were
lifelong educators. So I started to school about five years
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ago down the street called the Piscopal School of Nashville,
and it keeps me pretty busy when I'm not on
the road. Um. So it's been really fun, not only
for my own kids, but creating a distance learning program
for all of the kids in the school. Uh. And
then on Friday will be the first time that I
do Instagram Live for the school kids and do some
story time and some music as well. You started a school,
(35:41):
I had no idea. Yeah, this is true. You didn't
want to name at the kid's newest Episcopal school, and
you didn't want to name at the Catch School of
Arts or you know, Catch Middle School and nothing like that. No, man, no,
I uh, it's not for my own glory, that's for sure.
If I did I would have picked something a lot easier. Man,
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last time we saw each other was I think side
stage at the Opery. And so it's always good. It's
always good to see you because I tell you, when
you guys play, talking about ol Crow that is, I mean,
it's like a party on stage. I would compare it,
and I've compared it in interviews to watching when a
hip hop artist gets on stage and they're like, he
has like a guys on stage with him. This going
(36:26):
They're all going, yeah, yeah, except you guys are doing that,
except you all are supremely skilled with your instruments and vocals.
Like it is just a site to be seen whenever
you get to see an Old Crow performance. And I've
been able to see you guys play at the Opera
a few times, but not out on the road. What
is the what what's an Old Crow show like out
on the road. Well, let's say it's a lot wilder
(36:48):
than it is at the Opry, because you know, the
Oprey is at largely a tourist craft, and you know,
folks are a little bit more presentable. They get dressed
up and um at Old Crow show to get drunk.
I have a wild time and uh, and they throw down. Um,
and so you you'll see, you'll the spirit just almost
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raises the roof when we play out on the road.
And I can't tell you. I'm sure you're doing a
lot of interviews with guys and gals right now who
are saying the same thing. We just can't wait to
get back to the people. Yeah. You know, I was
kind of reading about the infancy of All Crow and
it says that you guys started busking on street corners
and the late nineties. But who is you guys? Like,
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who are the ones that were busking? Uh? Well, it's funny, Bobby.
But at this point, you know, it's been twenty one,
maybe twenty two years now when we started, So this
is our twenty second year of operation. And uh, it's
at that point where I'm the last guy from the
original you know, Street Corner Crew. How do you feel
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about that you're the last blue link on Wikipedia, Like
when you look up the page, you're the one that's
still in the band. Yeah, I guess so it Uh yeah,
it feels I mean it feels right because you know
it was my idea and I mean somebody had to
keep it all together. Um, And I missed my guys
from long ago, and I missed my guys from recently.
And I love all of the members that have come
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through the ranks, and we've launched careers and we've you know,
we've just been we've stuck it out, and uh, I'm
a stick it out kind of guy. So you know,
it makes sense that I that I'd still be here.
But man, it is a it's I always thinking when
when I think about a question like that, I always
thinking about Merle Haggard saying that a rife in country
music is like a fifty year bus ride. Yeah, when
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you guys are playing back then, what are you what
songs are you busting with? Like? What what's catch? At
the infancy of all crow busking on the street corner
with what songs well about me? Back then, there was
this really kind of umu strong ideology to the band
that we were here to preserve old time Mountain music
at all costs and protected from the perils of all
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other commercial country forms, including bluegrass and other things that
we're not pure true vine stuff. Now I think about
that attitude now, twenty two years later, and I think
I love music. I just want to sing. I don't
care what it is. But when I was eighteen, it
had to be old times string band music or nothing.
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And that's what Old Crow was out on the corner
playing with square dance music from the nineteen center, if
you can believe it, in the late nineties. So your
parents put what kind of influence on you, because you know,
most teenagers aren't playing old Mountain string music. Yeah, there
wasn't so much. My parents. I mean, my parents are
the ones that taught me how to I mean in
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my educational background, and so it was really helped me
with this. You know, the same kind of guy that
can keep an old time string band from a curb
to a to uh arena, as we've done largely as
an opener. We don't play a lot of arenas, but
when we've played to some big crowds, um and uh.
The same kind of spirit that allowed me to do
that is also the same spirit that could help me
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start a school. Because what you need to start in
the music business is luck and and a divine talent
and patience and faith and commitments. And it turns out
those are actually the same prerequisites for starting a school
as well. Um. But for me, the reason I went
with old time music in my teens. Wasn't because of
my parents, but it was because I played punk rock
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and suddenly I made this transition to old time string
band music. And it felt so much like the same
rabble rousing, all for one, guts and glory, last man
standing kind of you know it. To me, it was
like social distortion or the Ramons. I just felt I
felt a raw intensity to to the fiddle and the
(40:50):
banjo working together and shouting out those lyrics. Yeah, I'm
reading here too about Wagon will and which Now it's
for me. It's in two generations because I didn't know
that Dylan part. I know, it wasn't even a full
song to you guys, got it, but I knew you guys.
And then I knew again when Darius did it a
country but you were seventeen years old. Is that true
(41:11):
whenever you got ahold of Wagonwell, yeah, my my buddy Critter,
who's who is a founding member of OA Crow who
just retired last year. Um, Critter brought me this bootleg
when I was in you know, a junior in high school. Um,
and it had this you know, we were listening to
so much Bob then it was like we were at
the school of Bob Dylan, um, and so I heard
(41:34):
this bootleg and and I just knew it was a hit.
And so I wrote some quick dashed off some lyrics,
and then I had this song. But the story got
even richer when I went to publish it, because it
turns out because Bob Dylan said, sure, we'll split a
fifty fifty. But by the way, Bob says he didn't
write it. Bob said he learned it's it's a traditional
song that he learned from Arthur Crudup. Now big Boy
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Crudup was from Memphis, a rhythm and blues player, and
he's the guy that first recorded the song. Or oh
that's all right, mama, that Elvis made such a big hit. Well,
then it turned out that big Boy crowd Up didn't
lay claim to the song either. He attributed it to
Big Bill Bruns, a generation earlier from Mississippi who moves
to Chicago. So, anyway, if you believe that story, that then,
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in its near century long gestation, Wagon Wheels sees a
shared authorship among three African Americans, Jewish musical icon and me.
That's how far it took to get to Darius and
to go number one. Unbelievable story. But when you get it,
it's not complete. If there were all of these writers
on it, how come the song wasn't complete? Catch I
(42:41):
was missing that part about Johnson City and the Hitchhike contribute.
It was missing the odyssey. It had this framework. But
you know, and what makes the song really beautiful to
me is that it's an example of a true folk song.
I mean, it took people that that couldn't even sit
down at the same lunch counter together to become a
hit for the biggest African American star in country music.
(43:05):
So you have it, you write it? Do you? Ever,
how long did you actually get to talk to Bob
Dylan in human life? I've never met the man, Bobby.
You still haven't met him. Unbelievable. Now, I've never met him.
But one time, one time after after we were we
have done a lot of work with Mumford and Sons
(43:27):
and UH and Mumford's were on the Grammys and we
were out at one of our guys was out at
the graham Is hanging out with the Mumford boys and
they did this big mash up one year with Dylan
and the Avid brothers and they're all hanging out before
this rehearsal, and Bob is and then my friend from
Old Crow is talking with with Tebow and Burnett and
he sing, yeah, I'm from Old Crow. Remember we just
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did that project together on that Buildman Roal movie that
never came out. When all of a sudden, a shadowy
figure lurking in the corner comes forth and says I
lit Old Crow, and uh and gil my buddy and
Old crowsish man, I'm an Old Crow. And Bob says, well,
you guys are killing it, and he met Mob done that,
but according to the man, Crows killing it. Wow, So
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Darius gets it. The first time you heard Darius version,
was it when it was already done and mastered or
did someone sent it over to you first. I had
to approve a couple of lyric changes, but they were
just written on paper or in an email or whatever.
So um, the first time I heard it was on
WSN and two thousand and thirteen, and I wept great,
(44:34):
big muddy tears and just felt like, uh, I just
said Harry Loujah, and I still say it. All Crow
will be releasing a new song on Friday called Nashville Rising.
Now I'm gonna play a little bit of it here,
so hopefully you'll hear it over your phone. Here. So
here we go three to one singing again. So Nashville
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Rising is coming out one month to the to the
day from when the tornadoes hit in Nashville. So tell
me about this song. Catch just the whole thing here. Well,
I live in East Nashville. My kids and I heard
the sirens go off at on the morning of Super Tuesday. Uh.
And I looked out the window and there was no wind,
(45:24):
and I thought, oh my god, this is gonna be
something a lot worse than a tornado. We went downstairs
when the wind started whipping, uh, and the kids screamed
and it was really intense and and I and then
it passed. And I turned and I said, I bet,
I bet. Let's say a prayer, honey, because I know
a lot of people might have been killed by this
somewhere in Kentucky. Little did I know when I got
(45:45):
up the next morning that it was two blocks away
from my house, literally two blocks. Um. You know, I
lived right by the Five Points neighborhood. You know, we
frequent the very community that has been destroyed um. And
so it was really easy to feel deep empathy. I
didn't have power for a week, and same with others,
(46:07):
and and along with my friends in my school and
and other colleagues, we went right out and pitched in
and East Nashville, North Nashville, up in Mount Juliet, UM
and checked in with friends up in Putnam County where
so much terrible damage was done about a week after
the storms hadn't been out there. And you know, bringing
in cutting cutting up wood and bringing roof materials out
(46:32):
to curbs and doing that work, that's that makes you
feel so good. I wanted to do more, and so
I one more end. Saturday morning, I took a walk
and I saw the East End Methodist Church UM, and
it was I'm gonna get choked up and start crying.
It was so intensely destroyed and stained glass sitting there
hanging on and you can see right into the you
(46:54):
can see the pulpit from the from the road. It's
just smithereens uh. And I went home and wrote this
song real quick. And then this was the day before
the national quarantine was announced. UM. Now we still made
the record about six ft apart, because that's sort of
what you do in a studio anyway, we called Molly
Toddle up. We got a few members of Old Crow
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had a brand new song that was eighteen hours old,
and then we just sung it and then we sent
it out to our buddies because then by then the
quarantine was in and uh and so a bunch of
Old Crows were recorded remotely, and then some special guests
from the East Nashville community also lended a voice. Then
we worked it out with the Community Foundation to U
(47:36):
to have a fundraising initiative, and then we had a
great time making this video for it. UM largely made
up a cell phone photos that many of which I took,
or UM friends from my school took from just living
here in East Nashville where there's so much destruction. Proceeds
from the song will directly benefit the Community Foundation of
Middle Tennessee's Emergency Response Fund. Wow, the whole the whole
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story is crazy. So how is it over? Buy your
house now? Because isn't it weird that the tornado hits
and then all of a sudden the coronavirus hits and
it's like the focus has just been shifted so quickly. Yeah,
it certainly feels really strange. I think anywhere in the
world right now, but here in at least in East
Nashville where I live. Um, there's I mean, there's rubble everywhere.
(48:26):
I mean, it's not like it went away here and
the cameras went away. Um, a bunch of the volunteers
are or well, of course you can't do it anymore.
You've got to social distancing. So it's like it's the
rebuilders on pause. But the way I've been thinking about
about the isset, our community had a kind of a precursor,
like we had a we got to sneak a peek
(48:47):
behind the curtain at what was coming and what did
it make us do? It made us unite. The tornado
brought us so close together, when now coronavirus has brought
us six ft apart. But we are still united, and
we've got a head start on the kind of unity
that our nation is gonna need right now. We got
a head start on it in Nashville. So when I
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think about Nashville Strong, and when I think about Nashville Rising,
I think about that for everybody around the country, around
the world, because of our getting through this natural disaster,
we're we are better equipped to handle this second one. Well, Catch,
you've convinced me. I was on the fence. I was like,
I don't know will we make it, But now I
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believe we will after that speech right there, Catch, I'm
totally in baby. Mean, hey, do you let your kids
watch Netflix? Catch? Uh? You know, I just i'd call
it on my landlan because I just got a smartphone. Um,
I've been sort of in the dark here, but I
just got Instagram and all this other stuff and it
really worked out well. Um, because I'm starting to do
(49:49):
stuff on Instagram now that I can't tour anymore. But no,
I to answer your question, Mr Bones, I have not
gotten Netflix yet. That's all right. Well, I was wondering, because,
you know, just knowing of you outside in real life
land a little bit, I knew you probably didn't, but
I didn't know if quarantining had opened your eyes to
the vast amounts of media there is to consume for
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your children. Oh man, I'm I'm still spinning Pete Seeger
records over here. Abbio, Yo, I'm gonna send you something.
I got a new children's book I'm reading the podcast of.
This is such a great opportunity to create meaningful media
that's community oriented and four kids. And not to argue
that there isn't that stuff on Nutflix already, but hey,
(50:34):
let's do it right here in Nashville, Tennessee. We don't
got to wait for the purveyors from Hollywood. We can
do it for one another's kids. Are you guys gonna
go back out? Well, as soon as all this is over,
oh the minutes this is offer. You can bet Old
Crow is going out to celebrate our twenty two year
victory lap around the most the most ridiculous story anybody
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ever told about a string a street owner, string band
making it and in the ways, and we're you know,
we're so thankful to Darius. We're so thankful to our
to the grand old Opry and to those sort of
institutional mainstream country music pieces that have allowed us to
be a part of the story um and to reach
people because Bobby, that's what it's all about. And now
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more than ever, we can see that the power of music,
it's transcendent. It goes far far beyond sales or spins.
It's about reaching people's hearts and bringing peace and comfort,
joy and unity. Catch you now, I'm a big fan
of you. I love Sally, who you work with, who
I'm so close to as well, and she sent me
a text he goes, I think you two are kindred spirits,
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but I think you are the motivational. I think you
are the the heart of that spirit. I'm just the
guy that pushes the button the talks. So yeah, Catch,
I'm a big fan. It's good to talk to you, ma'am, Bobby.
I'm a big fan of yours to my friends, and
I wish you peace and and thank you for speaking
to so many full in the way that you are
right now with this with this captive audience that needs
(52:04):
to hear this message. So thanks for for spinning Nashville Rising.
That's what we got right now, and we'll have something
against something new even you know, coming up, because that's
what you just gotta keep singing. That's true. All right, Catch,
Good talk to you, Bud. Alright man,
M H. Welcome to episode to thirty eight. We will
talk to Lauren Daegel as she has quarantined and a
state that I didn't think she'd be quarantine detrol be
coming on a little bit, and talk to Catch from
Oakro Medicine Show, Uh too. Guests we've never had on
and we were gonna have both in the studio, and
the quarantine got us, so we will talk to them
(00:21):
both on the phone. But we have some music artists
coming up. I don't want to talk about new music
out this week. For example, lady Like, which is Ingrid
Andrew's first album. It's her debut album and it has
this song more hearts than mine, I guess. And she
also has another song that wasn't put out until her
(00:43):
record came out, called The Stranger See Place. She's really good.
Ingrid and I have been friends for a long time
and her first ever radio performance was on the show
and she played Ladylike. If we're playing lady Like and
(01:05):
I also like to that's only eight songs on the record.
I can listen and actually listen to eight songs before
I decide what I like, because there's a like fourteen
songs I'm listening in the first seven seconds, I'm like, no,
I'm not like some of them. Look when Ed Sheeran
puts out his twenty seven tracks and I like Ed Sharon,
but that whole duo duet album he did, there's a
(01:25):
lot of tracks, right. I don't think I got through that,
or I didn't get through it fairly because I would
be like, there's so many tracks here, I'm just gonna
go through and see if I liked first fifteen seconds.
I do like an eight song album. If you're gonna
put that mini and called an album, I prefer an
EP these days, unless it's my favorite artist. How many
tracks that have Let's see, it's so many you can't
(01:47):
even get through it is. There's some great songs to
and some songs I discounted earlier. They are not big hits,
but I I didn't give them enough time on that. Yeah,
too much. Let's do about eight, nine, nine, nine, a
bit too much. But when they do twelve and thirteen,
(02:08):
I just know there's five songs. I'm not going to
be able to really focus on. Decatur Country read excuse me,
Decatur County red from Jesse, Alexander. She's written hits for
Blake Shelton, Miley Cyrus, and Lee Bryce. This is our
first album of new material since two thousand and four.
(02:28):
And we'll play Mama Drink first because she come up
on the radio show and played this song here You Go,
What Night. And she has a song with Randy Howser
called Country Made Me Do It. I like Jesse a lot.
(02:56):
Jesse and I have served on boards together where we've
kind of been each other his entertainment during really long
board meetings. Um, so we got to be friends through that.
And then she's done the Bobby Cast. We did a
whole long episode with her when she wrote Miley Cyrus
as the Climb, Lee Bryce, I Drive your Truck, Blake
Shelton a bunch of stuff. So it's cool that her
record is out. Just enjoy her anyway. Sophia Scott, new
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female artist, has a song called Beauty and the Flaws.
Whether wanna be always running past? They really need to
phone trying to catch it all? Is? It ain't about
how much you may and that ain't no dream to
chase it all down. People that you love in the
(03:48):
places that you saw funny peace in case, Beauty and
Flaw go Florida. Georgia Line has a song called I
Love My Country, My Counto, Strings and Fields and song
until laugh Sounds. Monday, Kane Brown put out a song
(04:12):
with John Legend called last Time I Say Sorry, I
Can won't see us. The interesting thing about that Kane
was talking on a radio show about this and he
just got a calls like, hey, you want to right,
So he goes to the studio and writes with him.
He's like, oh my god, and him and John Legend right,
and they recorded right then, like they wrote at the studio,
which is something that doesn't happen here in Nashville. Lot
(04:35):
Kit Moore has a new song called wild World Baby
Slow Swan, and he has he announced his records coming
out soon too. Huh yeah, let's see. I guess do
a Leapa put out her record which is a big deal, right.
(04:56):
I know her because my girlfriend loves her that goes
to church with her. Really Yeah, that's cool. Here is
Don't Start Now and the album is called Future Nostalogists.
I guess the whole album's done. That makes sense because
I've been seeing people mostly females in their mid twenties
young thirties. Instagram story about it. Five seconds of Summer
(05:19):
put out a record I'm trying to see if I
know anybody else, a self titled album from count singer
James Robert Webb, who's also a real life physician. Yeah,
I know, don't do we have new music? Okay, but
I did see that was out there too, so decent
amount of music. It's just weird that they're putting it
(05:43):
out in the whole world is kind of focused on
the news and Corona and what can we do? And
we're trapped. And I wonder, because I saw the metrics
that streaming music is way down, I wonder why that is.
I don't know. I feel like BO aren't in the
mood for new music right now, but just streaming music
(06:03):
in general has been down. But I guess I haven't
streamed much music. I guess you're not driving as much,
so driving or running or work at the gym. Yeah,
maybe I find it's out of my routine now, me too.
As I was going, I don't know why I started
think back in unless I'm take getting out of the
shower and I yelled at lexit to play something, because
I don't just sit around the house listening to music.
It's when I'm doing something and it's all the things
(06:24):
I'm not doing anymore. That's a good point because when
I read that, I was like, why would I would
feel like it would be up because I was anything
to do. But maybe it's because everybody has nothing to do,
including Yeah, because I definitely haven't turned of music on. Okay,
well that's what's up. That's music out. Check out Mike's
(06:44):
podcast called Movie Mike's Movie Podcast. Check out Kelly Henderson's
podcast The Velvet's Edge. A lot of interesting if you're
a female in your late twenties to mid thirties early forties, Yeah,
I think this podcast is for you. Um So check
out The Velvet's Edge with Kelly Henderson. And that's the deal.
We're gonna take a little break, come back. Talk to
Lauren Dagle. I talked to Catch from Okro Medicine show.
(07:07):
Thank you guys, about to talk with Lauren Dagle. Here
is you say from Lauren That song is funny feeling
(07:31):
to me because you know how you hear a song
and it reminds you of a certain place in your life.
I didn't know Lauren when this when she was performing
this on Dancing with the Stars. I had met her
pre the finale and she was singing this song on
the finale. I didn't know she was going to sing
it over when we were getting ready to go out
to actually win the Mirror Ball, right, And so I
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saw Lauren and I went up to her and said hello,
and we did some rehearsal stuff together, kind of getting
ready for the show. She was super nice, she was
I live in Nashville, and I'll mention this coming up
with her. But Keith Urban as the one that kind
of put me onto her, and then he mentioned her
on my show too. I was like, hey, Lauren Daego,
She's uh, I mean, it's really great. And so she
had mentioned that to me and so we kind of
we're talking back and forth and nobody expecting me to
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win that show dance one of the stars, and so
we made a bet. I said okay, because her manager
was there too, and everybody's in Nashville. It's like, all,
if I win, we're all going to dinner. And um
I ended up winning, and so we weren't able to
go to dinner before she left. And those world tours
that they do, they don't come back home. It's not
like country tours, we're they go away for Thursday, Friday Saturday,
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or like my tours where I go away for Thursday,
Friday Saturday or Friday Sat or whatever. They you away
come back flight four or five months um. And so
we become pretty friendly after that. And then anyway I
win the show. But on that finale part where we're
all standing there, they show a clip of you throughout
the whole season. It's like the last five minutes of
the show. On the finale of my season to day
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some of the stars, there were four teams and it
would go Bobby and Sharna and they will show clips
of us with the season, and in the background was
her singing the song live right behind us, and so
she's performing live, they're doing the clips. Everybody's kind of emotional,
and then as soon as she finishes her song, they're
like in the winter is and then it was boom
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Bobby and Charness. Every time I hear the song when
it comes on the radio, it comes up in like
my streaming or on satellite play sometimes on the pop channel,
it just reminds me of that time I'm dancing with
the stars. And that's also how she's here now too,
because you know. I met her then, but that song
Believe and I'm like, oh my god, it's about that
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happening about the winner about but yeah, yeah, um. She
has some number one Christian songs. That's one of them.
Trusting You as another one. She has Back to God
featuring Reba down obviously she as you say. And then
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she put out the Christmas Song, which is the public
domain song. She's just re singing it. What number one?
Here you going on the fie. So Jack really a
big fan of Lauren, and I think she's about she's
by the way, let me say this. She has a
new podcast called day Go Bytes coming out real soon.
(10:30):
The first episode is March twentie. Oh so it's already out. Okay,
well maybe I should subscribe now, caught me. I don't
subscribe yet, but that's that. Day Goal Bytes is the
first episode of her new podcast, Hey Lauren, how are you? Hey?
How's it going? Where are you? How are you? Where
am I? Yeah? I'm in Georgia. Are you? Are you
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traveling back? Or are you just staying in Georgia for
a while. I'm quarantining currently in Georgia. I was doing
my best to travel back. I grabbed my car because
I was like, you know what, I just don't know, um,
how long this quarantine is gonna last. So I think
I'm going to drive down to Louisiana and I didn't
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get very far, but you know, it is what it is.
I I saw what you had to announce that the
tour was going to be postponed. So when did that
decision get made? Um, we made that. Gosh, that was um,
maybe the Grand Rapids Show. So like I think the
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twelve something like that of March we had to. Um,
it was kind of one of those moments where it
was an hour by hour, like we get a call
from the CDC. It's say, we're gonna postpone all even
so larger than a thousand people two for the next
two weeks, and then it was like for the next month,
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and then it was like for the next seven weeks,
and they just kept pushing back back back, and so, um, yeah,
we're not I don't know the exact dates that everything
quite yet, but we're not canceling, which is good. It
just means we're just having to move at all. Have
you talked to your family at home? I was watching
this morning that New Orleans is really struggling. Like they're
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one of the real hot spots now as far as
like New York, l A, Chicago, New Orleans with coronavirus.
Have you talked to down there having a good old
time and then everybody got the dad gums virus? I mean,
it's not funny. I told I told my friend the
other day, I said, you know why New Orleans is
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the next hot spot? It's because we're We're a culture
that just loves being with people. We love being around
each other. We share everything. It's like, come on inside,
I got a cup of pot of coffee. Oh you
need a different cup, you know what I mean. It's
like we're just very communal and um it's so vibrant.
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The culture is so vibrant, so rich and so alive
and um, so it makes sense to me as to
why it would be the next the next hotspot. People
don't really stay away from each other too much. But
I have some friends down there that up and calling
pretty much every day FaceTime and every day and just saying,
all right, all y'all doing, how's everybody holding up? And
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one of my friends was like, we decided to stay
home and we're building chicken coops and we ordered chickens
and and seeds and stuff. I'm like, of course, there
you go, New Orleans quirk. I love it. What was
like growing up for you? I love a fiah. It
was very rich in in culture and um, whenever I
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was a kid, it was you know, my grandfather who
put me on his feet and he would teach me
how to dance. And then you know, you'd go into
all the zytic rooms and people are playing the washboard
and the accordions and it's generational, you know, past down
from one family member to the next. And I think
that says a lot about our culture. It's very where
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I came from, it was pretty hippy, honestly, Like there
were a lot of people that. Um, it was like
where the oil field and art collided, like Lapia is.
The city was a lot of oil, a lot of
business there. But there's this like kind of sective people
that you know, make everything from scratch and play music
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all the time and create. It's very creative. Um. People
are always you know, creating festivals and different things like
that just to bring people together. And I remember as
a child, we we had this thing called Festival International
and every year, um lat Yett would host this and
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it was it was named one of the world's largest
free festivals. UM and I think like over a hundred
thousand people or something would each year. But um, the
beauty of it was it was this celebration of culture,
and so people from all over the world would fly
and perform like their traditional African dances like from the
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congo or you know, certain things from South America and Canada,
lots of French music and so it was really diverse
and really beautiful. Um to see Lafayette like celebrate something
so so um unique honestly, and so I think something
about growing up underneath that musical influence. Um, it really
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inspired me and kind of I would say that was
probably one of the most influential things I was a
part of as a kid. I think I, like a
lot of people that are listening to this show right now,
probably started to learn of you in the last couple
of years, Like we were kind of late to the
Lauren Dagel train, and I think you are talking about this.
(16:01):
At one point I knew of you because Keith Urbone
was like, hey, you should listen to Lauren Dagle, Like
he told me that that he came on my show
and said that as well. So when I started to
look up some of the early stuff about you comment
on this because I didn't know this. It says Lauren
did not consider music seriously until contracting a debilitating illness.
She claims it was one of the best things that
happened to her. What what is that little block of
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what happened there? Okay, I don't know how how debilitating
it quite was. You know, that might be where that
was expanded upon, but um, yeah, it's actually it's true.
When I was in high school, Um, I was diagnosed
with this virus that put me on homebound four about
eighteen months. And um, honestly, I went to a college
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preparatory school. It was very academics driven. Um, I knew
I always wanted to sing. Like growing up, they did,
what do you want to be when you grow up?
And I say, how would be a singer? Because I
would love listening to you Whitney Houston and to Len
Beyond and these women that had these powerhouse voices and stuff.
And I'd sing all over the house and make up
melodies or whatever. And it was I guess about my
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eighth grade year ninth grade year when it was kind
of like okay, but what are you really gonna do? Um?
And I remember my my grandfather sitting me down and saying, okay,
come on, what are you thinking of? What do you
want to do? And for some reason, I just adopted
that I can't really do music, like that's just some
pipe dream. I'm gonna go into the medical field because
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I love anatomy. I love biology. It's fascinating to me.
So um, I end up kind of in my mind
thinking I'll probably go into something medical. Well, right as
I started kind of gearing my world for that, um,
I end up getting this illness. And because I was home, Um,
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I would just sing all the time, like uh, it
was basically the only thing that I could do that
wasn't allowed me to dream and allowed me to create.
And my mom put me in voice lessen because it
wasn't too hard on my my body and kind of
kept me out of depression and helped with it, if
you will, And so um, yeah, I really is. It
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became therapy for me. It became like just a source
of healing during that time. And because of it, I
feel like that's why I sing the songs that I
do now. It's because if I walked through something that
was difficult or painful, isolating lonely, um, maybe I can
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make music that inspire someone who's walking to that same situation.
You know, at what point, though, when you're singing, do
you realize, well, I'm actually really good. And I don't
mean that in a funny way, but when did you
realize that you were better than even the local contemporaries
for you? So, okay, this is funny because I feel
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like I've really struggled with confidence for a long time
as far as if I was good or not. Um,
my mom would hear me singing all over the house
and she went to our choir director at church and said,
my daughter sings. I have no idea if she's good
or not. But if you like meet someone in the
back road the choir, please call her. And he said,
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come on around in the back of the church. I
want to I want to see what you seem like.
And he had me sing this song and I was
really cheepish about it, and he said, Laurence, I've heard
you sing like I mean, i've heard you laugh, and
so I know that you can you can built And
I was like okay, and so I just went for it,
and he said, get ready because in two weeks you're
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gonna start singing that song in church. And I remember
in that moment feeling like and Okay, this is kind
of exciting, this is like a shred of hope. Maybe
I can do this. Well. Then after a couple of
months of singing that church, everybody did the classic you
gotta go on American Idle. So I went. I tried
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out for American Idol, and um that was in Atlanta,
and I remember there was ten thousand people there and
I got a golden ticket after all those ten thousand people,
And so that was kind of when I was like, huh, well,
am I only good for like my little community? Or
am I good for the states? Or am I good
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for the country or my good for the world? Like
how do you measure this? And I think going on
American Idol gave me a boost of confidence. But I
got cut at the point where you can go onto
the the live shows, and so that was me having
to wrestle, Okay, are you gonna actually believe in yourself
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a little bit? Um? And I think I went back
home and I started singing and random bands and stuff,
and we would sing cover gigs all over the the city.
And I went to L s U and I took
voice you know with L s U. And there were
just so many things that I think slowly but truly
started building my confidence along the way. UM. And so
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I would say American Idol was one moment and I
was like, UM, maybe I maybe I actually have a voice.
And then UM, another time was um, whenever I was
getting signed by the record label. Um, that was another
moment that I was like, is this a joke? Like
is this really happening? Am I really good? Am I
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like good enough for a record label? Too? Invest in?
Like there were all these questions, Um, but they were
and so they were kind and it helps grow me.
And now we're here, and you know, it's so funny, Bobby,
is that I feel like there are so many different
stages in this industry. You know, there's so many different
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moments and UM, sometimes you feel like, wow, how am
I getting a chance to be here? And sometimes I've
got to keep working hard so that I can get
to the next spot. And I feel like the that push,
UM makes me want to keep learning. So even though
I'm in this space that I'm in right now. All right, Well,
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what qualifies me to go to the next level? Or
how can I um train myself or even in times
like the quarantine, like learn something new that is going
to keep me excelling um to reach the next bar?
You know, I feel like that quest and that journey
for Okay, Well, am I good enough for this? Or
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do I have potential here? Um? I think that's probably
gonna exist in me until I die. And I think
there's something really here's something good about that. You know.
You bring up American Idol. It's I've been working on
the show for three years now, and what I talked
with him about off the camera. You're one of the examples.
And I used to one as Hillary Scott from d A,
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who's who's I'm close friends with? And the other one
is you, and that it's never an on camera moment,
but it's an off moment to tell people just because
you didn't make the show means you just weren't right
for the show. It doesn't mean that, It doesn't mean
you're not good, doesn't mean you don't have your own style,
Does you have your own thing? You just weren't right
for this one little lane of a TV show that's
happening right this second. And so you know your story
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is one did you try it more than once? So
just do it one time. I did. I tried out.
So the first year I tried out, I made it
to the end of Hollywood Week. Second year I tried out,
didn't even make it to Hollywood it was brutal, had
the flu. And then the third year made it to
the end of Hollywood Week and then went to Las
Vegas as when they were doing that, and then I
got cut after off Vegas Wow three times and that
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in It Isn't a wild You're here now And I
think you mentored last season or the season before, right, Yeah,
it was amazing last season. It was honestly one of
the most exciting things I had done in my career
so far. I told Leave my manager, I was like,
I would do that any day, Like there is something
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so it's so real about just encouraging someone who's at
the very very beginning of their journey, Like, uh, that
I can understand why you would go on the show
and kind of like be a voice for those people
because it's it's exhilarating and there's so much potential behind
these people. It's it's amazing to be a part of it.
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Did you always set out when you started to go
I can do music? Did you just always set out
to go down the Christian lane? No, It's funny. Whenever
I was sick, like back in that season, when I
was really sick, I would always say, God, I'll do music.
But I never want to sing Christian music. I like
did not want to be a part of that at all.
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One is because I did not want my friends to
make fun of me. Um. I was so against that.
It was just because I wanted, um, something sonically different,
and I didn't know if what I like, what I
really loved, would fit that format. Um. But I knew
that the hope that I was given when I was sick,
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because like I would have these crazy dreams like I
thought I was having cabin fever, like losing my mind,
you know. Um, but I would have these dreams and um,
while I was while I was at home, and it
would be of me on stage or what'sin a ward
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or art or song or whatever, and they were so
vivid and so real. Um. And then like years later
when they actually started happening, I was like Oh my gosh,
these are these are those dreams that I was shown
like when I was like fifteen and sixteen. Um. And
so I think the hope that I was given during
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that time to just hang on and I would research
all like so many stories about different actors or business
owners that went through a really hard time. Um, how
did they overcome it? How did they use their difficulty
or the obstacle um to be kind of a platform
in which they launched from instead of like the space
that overcame them. Um. And in that I found just
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so much hope in Jesus. And so I remember saying,
I don't want to sing Christian music, but I want
to sing music that brings hope to people. And then
the first record label that called was a Christian label,
and I was like, well, this is an open door.
And they've been so kind and they've been such great
partners the entire way. It's been wonderful. You did mission
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work too, right, um, a little bit. I went to
I feel like I do more mission work now, which
is funny. But I went to um Africa once, who
went and visited some hospital old and then I went
to Brazil helped build a church when I was like eighteen. Um.
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But and then went to Tuscaloosa when all the tornadoes
came through and helps clean up and do things like that.
One fun thing when I was a kid there. This
is pretty awesome. Myum my parents are just there are
people that would just give the shirt off their back,
you know. And Katrina came through and wiped out in
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New Orleans when we were in Lafayette two hours away,
and so a lot of people in New Orleans came
to Lafayette to kind of seek refuge with nothing. I mean,
they had nothing. And people think that the quarantine is
is intent, and it is and it's I was telling
a friend, how similar to Katrina that that dis quarantine
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is because we had no waters, no water in the
um you know, grocery stores, all the gas was out
and things like that. Um, just because so many people
were trying to get as much as it possibly could. Well.
UM my parents went and made these huge parts of
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gumbo and brought us down to the Red light district
as like you know kids, we were probably ten years
old maybe and um brought us down to the red
light district and we served gumbo. We would go and
knock on all the motel doors and say see that
table down there, that there's free gumbo down there. Come
on down. We got potatoes, salt and gumbo. We'll serve you.
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And so you'd see all these people just coming out
of their hotel rooms, motel rooms or whatever. And it
was so special just to see such a diverse and
unique group of people coming together over food and in
a time that everything felt chaotic and wild. And I
think that that built love for humanity inside of me,
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you know, in a way that sometimes words don't. Sometimes
you have to experience it um like that, like where
it's really real. So yeah, those are some of the
mission stories from when I was a kid. And I'm
always curious about when songs start to cross over because
it happens where I come from the country, and I've
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worked on the formats too, But when your song starts
to cross over and go from big in the Christian
world and Christian radio to pop radio, how wide does
your reach get and how quickly does that happen? Yeah?
That was wild. So it happened very organically, honestly, Like
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whenever whenever I put out Look Up Child the record. Um,
I didn't have a mainstream label or anything like that
to kind of crossover across the record over um and
you say, was on Christian radio at the time, and
then main mainstream program directors would just start playing it.
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And a lot of the program directors that I talked to,
you said, their wives would come in and say, I
heard this song on Pandora or Spotify or whatever. Can
you play this on the record. I just love it.
I just think that you would love this, and I
think people would love And it was a lot of
wives honestly that you know, got it on there, which
is really funny. But um, so organically they started adding
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the song and after that I was like, okay, well,
well we gotta get a mainstream radio team, so we signed.
It's kind of funny we actually signed to the record
label after it was already starting to get onto the radio,
onto mainstream radio. And the difference, Uh, when something like
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that happens, it it takes it from one one people
group and spreads it so far and wid um And
you know, the craziest thing is when you're like you're
in Europe or you're in all of these random continent
countries and people are singing the words to your songs,
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so emphatically, like in a way that I'm like, oh
my gosh. These people have lived with this music, they
have absorbed this music as their own. And I think
that's what's so profound about crossing over is the numbers multiply,
pretty intensely, um, as far as the amount of people
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that you're you're able to reach. I was looking at
some of the stuff you're you were talking about, and
you talk about the Price Fund, which I think is
very interesting. Would you talk about that for a second,
The Price Fund, which is the school the school launches. Yes,
oh that okay. So the sweet girl who works on
the management team, her name is Liz, and she said, Lawrence,
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there's um a lot of things going on with these
kids who um aren't they're they're used to getting lunches
every at school or breakfast every day at school. Um,
and now that school is being shut down temporarily, you know,
they don't have a way of getting food. And um,
there was this picture on I followed this Instagram feed
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called Nolan News, and um, Nolan News posted this little
girl she's like three years old and it said where
a family in need, anything helps, and like the caption
was the mother had just gotten laid off from her
philebotomy job, um, and they were just trying to get
(32:39):
anything they could. And you know, if that is going
to be the shape of the world, um, I want
to do everything I can to just help people in
a moment of crisis or concerned and thinking about those kids,
I was like, yeah, there's absolutely no way that we
can't help them. So I'm pretty pumped. People were really generous.
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And I think a lot of times, you know, people
get scared in times like these, People are unsure in
times like these. Um. But to see people say, you know,
I'm not gonna let the fear control this. I men
still give and help people that that need it, you know.
And so I'm so excited. I don't know quite yet
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what number we're at, but I know it's it's been
going really well. Well it's great to finally talk to
you under weird circumstances, for sure, but I'm glad you're
say if I hope you are able to get home.
They're starting to put restrictions on people a crossing state
lines now you can you can't even go from Louisiana
to Texas, not that you're trying to go to Texas.
But because of the amount of coronavirus in Louisiana, they're
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shutting down that that trip at Tech. You can't get
into Florida now, so I don't know if you got
a map with you, but you may have to do
some like get out of the car run across the border.
But I'm talking about state borders here. Yeah, backroad action. Well, Lauren,
to talk to you. Be safe. Congratulations on everything. Everybody
can follow Lauren at Lauren Underscore Daego and hopefully I'll
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see around town sting Lauren when everything's normal. Thanks Bobby,
thanks for having me. All right by Lauren? Okay, okay,
catch Do you live over by Amy that she saw
you and you guys were talking the other day by this. Yeah,
I live over by Amy. I live for about four
doors down from Amy, maybe six. You're that close. Huh. Yeah,
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she's right down the street. Our kids play together sometimes
and UM, she's wonderful her husband. You're doing a home schooling.
Are you having to teach or are the classes given
to you and you kind of observe them learning? Um.
You know, it's kind of it's pretty cool getting to
be super engaged with their learning. UM. But the school
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you know, Um, I started the school. It's uh, this
is the school that I started down the street from me,
and I'm the chairman of the board and the founder.
That's sort of been my you know, all of us
in the country music business, we were charitable people, were
charitable types. For me, my charitable pursuits run me straight
into education because that's my family business. My parents were
lifelong educators. So I started to school about five years
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ago down the street called the Piscopal School of Nashville,
and it keeps me pretty busy when I'm not on
the road. Um. So it's been really fun, not only
for my own kids, but creating a distance learning program
for all of the kids in the school. Uh. And
then on Friday will be the first time that I
do Instagram Live for the school kids and do some
story time and some music as well. You started a school,
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I had no idea. Yeah, this is true. You didn't
want to name at the kid's newest Episcopal school, and
you didn't want to name at the Catch School of
Arts or you know, Catch Middle School and nothing like that. No, man, no,
I uh, it's not for my own glory, that's for sure.
If I did I would have picked something a lot easier. Man,
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last time we saw each other was I think side
stage at the Opery. And so it's always good. It's
always good to see you because I tell you, when
you guys play, talking about ol Crow that is, I mean,
it's like a party on stage. I would compare it,
and I've compared it in interviews to watching when a
hip hop artist gets on stage and they're like, he
has like a guys on stage with him. This going
(36:26):
They're all going, yeah, yeah, except you guys are doing that,
except you all are supremely skilled with your instruments and vocals.
Like it is just a site to be seen whenever
you get to see an Old Crow performance. And I've
been able to see you guys play at the Opera
a few times, but not out on the road. What
is the what what's an Old Crow show like out
on the road. Well, let's say it's a lot wilder
(36:48):
than it is at the Opry, because you know, the
Oprey is at largely a tourist craft, and you know,
folks are a little bit more presentable. They get dressed
up and um at Old Crow show to get drunk.
I have a wild time and uh, and they throw down. Um,
and so you you'll see, you'll the spirit just almost
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raises the roof when we play out on the road.
And I can't tell you. I'm sure you're doing a
lot of interviews with guys and gals right now who
are saying the same thing. We just can't wait to
get back to the people. Yeah. You know, I was
kind of reading about the infancy of All Crow and
it says that you guys started busking on street corners
and the late nineties. But who is you guys? Like,
(37:33):
who are the ones that were busking? Uh? Well, it's funny, Bobby.
But at this point, you know, it's been twenty one,
maybe twenty two years now when we started, So this
is our twenty second year of operation. And uh, it's
at that point where I'm the last guy from the
original you know, Street Corner Crew. How do you feel
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about that you're the last blue link on Wikipedia, Like
when you look up the page, you're the one that's
still in the band. Yeah, I guess so it Uh yeah,
it feels I mean it feels right because you know
it was my idea and I mean somebody had to
keep it all together. Um, And I missed my guys
from long ago, and I missed my guys from recently.
And I love all of the members that have come
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through the ranks, and we've launched careers and we've you know,
we've just been we've stuck it out, and uh, I'm
a stick it out kind of guy. So you know,
it makes sense that I that I'd still be here.
But man, it is a it's I always thinking when
when I think about a question like that, I always
thinking about Merle Haggard saying that a rife in country
music is like a fifty year bus ride. Yeah, when
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you guys are playing back then, what are you what
songs are you busting with? Like? What what's catch? At
the infancy of all crow busking on the street corner
with what songs well about me? Back then, there was
this really kind of umu strong ideology to the band
that we were here to preserve old time Mountain music
at all costs and protected from the perils of all
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other commercial country forms, including bluegrass and other things that
we're not pure true vine stuff. Now I think about
that attitude now, twenty two years later, and I think
I love music. I just want to sing. I don't
care what it is. But when I was eighteen, it
had to be old times string band music or nothing.
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And that's what Old Crow was out on the corner
playing with square dance music from the nineteen center, if
you can believe it, in the late nineties. So your
parents put what kind of influence on you, because you know,
most teenagers aren't playing old Mountain string music. Yeah, there
wasn't so much. My parents. I mean, my parents are
the ones that taught me how to I mean in
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my educational background, and so it was really helped me
with this. You know, the same kind of guy that
can keep an old time string band from a curb
to a to uh arena, as we've done largely as
an opener. We don't play a lot of arenas, but
when we've played to some big crowds, um and uh.
The same kind of spirit that allowed me to do
that is also the same spirit that could help me
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start a school. Because what you need to start in
the music business is luck and and a divine talent
and patience and faith and commitments. And it turns out
those are actually the same prerequisites for starting a school
as well. Um. But for me, the reason I went
with old time music in my teens. Wasn't because of
my parents, but it was because I played punk rock
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and suddenly I made this transition to old time string
band music. And it felt so much like the same
rabble rousing, all for one, guts and glory, last man
standing kind of you know it. To me, it was
like social distortion or the Ramons. I just felt I
felt a raw intensity to to the fiddle and the
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banjo working together and shouting out those lyrics. Yeah, I'm
reading here too about Wagon will and which Now it's
for me. It's in two generations because I didn't know
that Dylan part. I know, it wasn't even a full
song to you guys, got it, but I knew you guys.
And then I knew again when Darius did it a
country but you were seventeen years old. Is that true
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whenever you got ahold of Wagonwell, yeah, my my buddy Critter,
who's who is a founding member of OA Crow who
just retired last year. Um, Critter brought me this bootleg
when I was in you know, a junior in high school. Um,
and it had this you know, we were listening to
so much Bob then it was like we were at
the school of Bob Dylan, um, and so I heard
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this bootleg and and I just knew it was a hit.
And so I wrote some quick dashed off some lyrics,
and then I had this song. But the story got
even richer when I went to publish it, because it
turns out because Bob Dylan said, sure, we'll split a
fifty fifty. But by the way, Bob says he didn't
write it. Bob said he learned it's it's a traditional
song that he learned from Arthur Crudup. Now big Boy
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Crudup was from Memphis, a rhythm and blues player, and
he's the guy that first recorded the song. Or oh
that's all right, mama, that Elvis made such a big hit. Well,
then it turned out that big Boy crowd Up didn't
lay claim to the song either. He attributed it to
Big Bill Bruns, a generation earlier from Mississippi who moves
to Chicago. So, anyway, if you believe that story, that then,
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in its near century long gestation, Wagon Wheels sees a
shared authorship among three African Americans, Jewish musical icon and me.
That's how far it took to get to Darius and
to go number one. Unbelievable story. But when you get it,
it's not complete. If there were all of these writers
on it, how come the song wasn't complete? Catch I
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was missing that part about Johnson City and the Hitchhike contribute.
It was missing the odyssey. It had this framework. But
you know, and what makes the song really beautiful to
me is that it's an example of a true folk song.
I mean, it took people that that couldn't even sit
down at the same lunch counter together to become a
hit for the biggest African American star in country music.
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So you have it, you write it? Do you? Ever,
how long did you actually get to talk to Bob
Dylan in human life? I've never met the man, Bobby.
You still haven't met him. Unbelievable. Now, I've never met him.
But one time, one time after after we were we
have done a lot of work with Mumford and Sons
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and UH and Mumford's were on the Grammys and we
were out at one of our guys was out at
the graham Is hanging out with the Mumford boys and
they did this big mash up one year with Dylan
and the Avid brothers and they're all hanging out before
this rehearsal, and Bob is and then my friend from
Old Crow is talking with with Tebow and Burnett and
he sing, yeah, I'm from Old Crow. Remember we just
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did that project together on that Buildman Roal movie that
never came out. When all of a sudden, a shadowy
figure lurking in the corner comes forth and says I
lit Old Crow, and uh and gil my buddy and
Old crowsish man, I'm an Old Crow. And Bob says, well,
you guys are killing it, and he met Mob done that,
but according to the man, Crows killing it. Wow, So
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Darius gets it. The first time you heard Darius version,
was it when it was already done and mastered or
did someone sent it over to you first. I had
to approve a couple of lyric changes, but they were
just written on paper or in an email or whatever.
So um, the first time I heard it was on
WSN and two thousand and thirteen, and I wept great,
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big muddy tears and just felt like, uh, I just
said Harry Loujah, and I still say it. All Crow
will be releasing a new song on Friday called Nashville Rising.
Now I'm gonna play a little bit of it here,
so hopefully you'll hear it over your phone. Here. So
here we go three to one singing again. So Nashville
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Rising is coming out one month to the to the
day from when the tornadoes hit in Nashville. So tell
me about this song. Catch just the whole thing here. Well,
I live in East Nashville. My kids and I heard
the sirens go off at on the morning of Super Tuesday. Uh.
And I looked out the window and there was no wind,
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and I thought, oh my god, this is gonna be
something a lot worse than a tornado. We went downstairs
when the wind started whipping, uh, and the kids screamed
and it was really intense and and I and then
it passed. And I turned and I said, I bet,
I bet. Let's say a prayer, honey, because I know
a lot of people might have been killed by this
somewhere in Kentucky. Little did I know when I got
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up the next morning that it was two blocks away
from my house, literally two blocks. Um. You know, I
lived right by the Five Points neighborhood. You know, we
frequent the very community that has been destroyed um. And
so it was really easy to feel deep empathy. I
didn't have power for a week, and same with others,
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and and along with my friends in my school and
and other colleagues, we went right out and pitched in
and East Nashville, North Nashville, up in Mount Juliet, UM
and checked in with friends up in Putnam County where
so much terrible damage was done about a week after
the storms hadn't been out there. And you know, bringing
in cutting cutting up wood and bringing roof materials out
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to curbs and doing that work, that's that makes you
feel so good. I wanted to do more, and so
I one more end. Saturday morning, I took a walk
and I saw the East End Methodist Church UM, and
it was I'm gonna get choked up and start crying.
It was so intensely destroyed and stained glass sitting there
hanging on and you can see right into the you
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can see the pulpit from the from the road. It's
just smithereens uh. And I went home and wrote this
song real quick. And then this was the day before
the national quarantine was announced. UM. Now we still made
the record about six ft apart, because that's sort of
what you do in a studio anyway, we called Molly
Toddle up. We got a few members of Old Crow
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had a brand new song that was eighteen hours old,
and then we just sung it and then we sent
it out to our buddies because then by then the
quarantine was in and uh and so a bunch of
Old Crows were recorded remotely, and then some special guests
from the East Nashville community also lended a voice. Then
we worked it out with the Community Foundation to U
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to have a fundraising initiative, and then we had a
great time making this video for it. UM largely made
up a cell phone photos that many of which I took,
or UM friends from my school took from just living
here in East Nashville where there's so much destruction. Proceeds
from the song will directly benefit the Community Foundation of
Middle Tennessee's Emergency Response Fund. Wow, the whole the whole
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story is crazy. So how is it over? Buy your
house now? Because isn't it weird that the tornado hits
and then all of a sudden the coronavirus hits and
it's like the focus has just been shifted so quickly. Yeah,
it certainly feels really strange. I think anywhere in the
world right now, but here in at least in East
Nashville where I live. Um, there's I mean, there's rubble everywhere.
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I mean, it's not like it went away here and
the cameras went away. Um, a bunch of the volunteers
are or well, of course you can't do it anymore.
You've got to social distancing. So it's like it's the
rebuilders on pause. But the way I've been thinking about
about the isset, our community had a kind of a precursor,
like we had a we got to sneak a peek
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behind the curtain at what was coming and what did
it make us do? It made us unite. The tornado
brought us so close together, when now coronavirus has brought
us six ft apart. But we are still united, and
we've got a head start on the kind of unity
that our nation is gonna need right now. We got
a head start on it in Nashville. So when I
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think about Nashville Strong, and when I think about Nashville Rising,
I think about that for everybody around the country, around
the world, because of our getting through this natural disaster,
we're we are better equipped to handle this second one. Well, Catch,
you've convinced me. I was on the fence. I was like,
I don't know will we make it, But now I
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believe we will after that speech right there, Catch, I'm
totally in baby. Mean, hey, do you let your kids
watch Netflix? Catch? Uh? You know, I just i'd call
it on my landlan because I just got a smartphone. Um,
I've been sort of in the dark here, but I
just got Instagram and all this other stuff and it
really worked out well. Um, because I'm starting to do
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stuff on Instagram now that I can't tour anymore. But no,
I to answer your question, Mr Bones, I have not
gotten Netflix yet. That's all right. Well, I was wondering, because,
you know, just knowing of you outside in real life
land a little bit, I knew you probably didn't, but
I didn't know if quarantining had opened your eyes to
the vast amounts of media there is to consume for
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your children. Oh man, I'm I'm still spinning Pete Seeger
records over here. Abbio, Yo, I'm gonna send you something.
I got a new children's book I'm reading the podcast of.
This is such a great opportunity to create meaningful media
that's community oriented and four kids. And not to argue
that there isn't that stuff on Nutflix already, but hey,
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let's do it right here in Nashville, Tennessee. We don't
got to wait for the purveyors from Hollywood. We can
do it for one another's kids. Are you guys gonna
go back out? Well, as soon as all this is over,
oh the minutes this is offer. You can bet Old
Crow is going out to celebrate our twenty two year
victory lap around the most the most ridiculous story anybody
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ever told about a string a street owner, string band
making it and in the ways, and we're you know,
we're so thankful to Darius. We're so thankful to our
to the grand old Opry and to those sort of
institutional mainstream country music pieces that have allowed us to
be a part of the story um and to reach
people because Bobby, that's what it's all about. And now
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more than ever, we can see that the power of music,
it's transcendent. It goes far far beyond sales or spins.
It's about reaching people's hearts and bringing peace and comfort,
joy and unity. Catch you now, I'm a big fan
of you. I love Sally, who you work with, who
I'm so close to as well, and she sent me
a text he goes, I think you two are kindred spirits,
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but I think you are the motivational. I think you
are the the heart of that spirit. I'm just the
guy that pushes the button the talks. So yeah, Catch,
I'm a big fan. It's good to talk to you, ma'am, Bobby.
I'm a big fan of yours to my friends, and
I wish you peace and and thank you for speaking
to so many full in the way that you are
right now with this with this captive audience that needs
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to hear this message. So thanks for for spinning Nashville Rising.
That's what we got right now, and we'll have something
against something new even you know, coming up, because that's
what you just gotta keep singing. That's true. All right, Catch,
Good talk to you, Bud. Alright man,
Host
Bobby Bones
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