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April 3, 2020 53 mins

Luke Bryan talks to Bobby Bones about losing two country icons Joe Diffie and Kenny Rogers who he got to know. Luke talks about his 24th No. 1 “What She Wants Tonight”, if he’s already working on his next album and then hits Bobby with a birthday surprise delivery! Jon Pardi talks to Bobby about how quarantine life is going. He is spending a lot of time working with farm equipment, cooking and playing video games. Jon also talks about how we and his wife had to postpone their wedding and will now be having it in Nashville.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
M H. Welcome to episode to thirty nine of the
Bobby Cast, where I saw Bill Withers passed away this morning,
so I wanted to say a few things about him.
Didn't know him. Bill Withers, hall of fame soul singer,
dead at eighty one years old. And again I didn't
know him personally. But you know, Sunshine is why to think,

(00:21):
probably my second favorite song of all time, You Sunshine
when she's go but it's lovely day. The jam lean
on Me is a jam use me. You don't even

(00:45):
you don't even know. You just keep on you lin.
She may be like, who is Bill Withers? We play
all these are like, oh I love that one, Oh
I love that one. I know he's saying that. I
know he's saying that. But a soul legend, Bill Withers
has from heart complications one years old. You know, when
I woke up and saw the news, I really thought
it was going to be coronavirus, because that's what everybody's

(01:08):
dying from right now. That's old and famous and some
people not old. But I didn't think it was gonna
be corona. I didn't want to share the story behind
Ain't No Sunshine? It wasn't going to be a single,
but radio stations just started playing it. It was his
first hit. We talked about this in a Bobby Cast
earlier because he was a guy who got to start later,

(01:31):
so he didn't record his first song until he was
thirty two years old. He was in the Navy for
nine years. Then he worked at a factory making parts
for airplanes. After that he was introduced to book or
T Jones from book or T and the MG's So
Booker was a session session musicians, and you know, he
brought in a bunch of musicians and some of them

(01:56):
one of the guys, Steven Stills, who played guitar form
was one who ended up producing Bill Weather's album when
he was thirty two. So again he made it later
in life. This was a song, and this song specifically,
it was a B side to another song called Harlem,
and Harlem was the one they wanted to be the single,
but DJ started playing the other song and so then

(02:16):
it became a hit. So there you go. I don't
know if I've ever heard Harlem. To be honest with you,
I don't think I have either. Bill Wathers grew up
in slab Fork, West Virginia. It's end of the Great Depression.
Youngest the six kids, I had a speech impediment. Joined
the Navy after high school, worked as a milkman, like
I said earlier, worked in aircraft parts. No, you don't care.

(02:42):
It's Harlem right here. It's a radio nowadays, this one
would get played just because it has tempo. It's good.
This is good too, number one on the album. So
then it's ain't no sunshine right after it? Yeah, well
but on the you say album. But what happened was

(03:03):
though radio should get set singles. Yeah, so not albums.
And on the single they're often be a song they
wanted you to play, even this, even back in my
day and two thousand and four, right, they send you
a single and there's another track on it that they
may go for a second single with, or just a song.
They'll let you know more about the artist. So it
wasn't an album. But but yeah, I guess back in

(03:24):
the day it would just be like a seven inch record. Yeah, yeah,
it would be a small record. I don't know if
that's seven inches listen. I've often thought a lot a
lot of seven inches that weren't so I used to
collect just straight up, like single vinyls. Do you have
any of those? Um? I still have a few of them. Yeah,
And it's just I think you can only hold twelve
minutes of music, is that right? You know? They're fun,

(03:45):
I guess, And I have a record player, like a
cool old record player, but I just get annoyed that
they only play like six songs and then it's you
have to flip thing over. Yeah. I think even with records,
it's baby thirty five. They can hold that way. If
anything is longer than that, you get the two LP. Well,
so he goes to a club and he's gonna watch
lou Rawls perform. Lou Rawls was late and he shows up,

(04:08):
has a bunch of women with them, and still the
crowd goes crazy and he's like, well, I gotta do that.
So he bought a cheap guitar to pawn shop, taught
himself to play, started writing songs between shifts with the factory.
A demo tape of his got to Clarence a Vant,
an executive at Sussex Records, and they called him and said, hey,
let's do this, and that guy I took out earlier,
the guitar player was the one. They produced it, and

(04:32):
so one of the songs they cut Ain't No Sunshine,
was the Tale of Lost Love that he wrote after
watching nineteen sixty two, a movie Jack Lemon and Lee
Remick Days of Wine and Roses. Never heard of any
of that. The album was just as I am. It's
not there you go. There's a little little background on him,

(04:54):
but passed away eighty one. I love his music, Still
love his music. Second fa a song of all time
behind John Mayer Stopped This Train, Rest in Peace Man.
A new music out today from Sam Hunt. He's got
an album called south Side and I guess it's this

(05:17):
first record of six years or so. Yeah, is that right?
Montavello was his last record, and you know, ken folks,
it has new songs like not Draft, thousand miles, your
half to that? Which one is the two thousand and
sixteen cheers making your eyes because all my last still

(05:40):
come true? That's him. Everything was all right. You hold
your baby all night when your heart's all patted up,
and I love it's good. New I'd say two thousand
sixty give it bag and then another song about years. Uh,

(06:06):
this is breaking up was easy in the nineties, sitting
at the house time on my phone. I was somewhere
I could be along, trying to let you go. Something
always reminds me I've been breaking up? Was easy in
the nine and go. Asha McBride put out a record
called Never Will. It's our second album. That here is

(06:28):
one night standard. You Ain't Got a Key? Chitches, Yes,
there you go. I was looking at these songs. I
don't see anything from the Raging Idiots new album. I
mean you would put the list down there, didn't you?

(06:49):
I did? Did You Forget? Came out earlier one day earlier.
We're trying to beat the rust country songs and McConnell
and Kaylee Shore have how do we do this? We
were talking to her. She had coronavirus. The two roommates

(07:12):
she had that are both musicians. Uh. Toby Keith has
a song called What's Up? Cause What's good? Hand I
Got three? Thomas Rhett has Be a Light with Reeba Keith, Urban,
Hillary Scott Lady and Chris Tomlin. Would you Do Somebody Wrong? Ground?

(07:34):
Hot Country Nights have the USA begins with Us? The
USA begins with Us. That's Darkss Comedy band. So you
put Derek's Comedy band but not mine. Just making sure. Here.
Chrissie Mets has Talking to God. She's from what's that

(07:57):
show called This Is Us? Yeah, Lindsey Loan has a
new song out today, getting out of Country. Lindsay Lohan's
back to Me. If I heard this, probably twice, I'd
be like, that's my jam. Drake has Tutsie Slide Slide.
Then I hated double time and I hit a spend

(08:17):
because we spun it a black of a a couple of sounds.
If it's not the right time, I'll always be another
time and not even as Renee's song Come So Came.
Ricky Retro and Joe Exotic have a Here Kitty Katy remix.

(08:39):
The problem with the Joe Exotics that's not him singing?
Why are people still saying it's him? He lip sync
on the DONC You series? Whatever? Let's see? Uh there
anybody else? There's a solo album from m Ward who
is half of She and Him. Who's the Aydacianel's in?

(09:00):
That's one. The Canadian pop band Purity Ring have an
album called Womb peach Pit. The Canadian pop band You
and Your Friends and both Oh Here We Go Bonus
Music News. Why are music streams down if everyone is
stuck at home? This is written by Jeff Mayfield at Variety.

(09:20):
Simply put, they say it's down to focus on news
and other televised options, the loss of daily commutes where
many people stream music, and multiple people at home together
streaming the same thing. So far, and not that it's uh,
I'm not going to change, but our podcasts have gone
way up. The Morning Show podcast has gone way up,

(09:43):
and this podcast has gone way up. And again that
could change. But reality shows have also drawn more eyeballs
in recent weeks, as has streaming services like Disney Plus,
Apple TV, Hulu, and Netflix. What are you mostly on
right now, Mike? I would say probably Disney Plus. You
know I've never been on Disney really. Yeah, I don't

(10:05):
have it. I don't think I think it's war. I
don't know if you would have enjoy it as much
because you've never really seen any Disney movies. Unless you're
gonna go back and watch a bunch of old stuff,
I don't know if you would get much out of it.
No Disney movies, I haven't seen those. I haven't seen
any Star Wars, so I wouldn't watch the Mandalorian and
then the Marvel movies, and I guess I've seen the
Marvel ones that I want to see. And then for me,

(10:27):
I watched the Simpsons on there. Yeah, yeah, I think
American Idols on Hulu though, right I believe so, yes,
because um Hulu is also Disney owned by Disneys. You
know that. I didn't know that because the person that
runs ABC also is over overseas Hulu and ABC is
a Disney product. Yeah, I guess they do get it

(10:47):
much of like recent ABC shows on there, like right
after the Air, And Barrett Grills is on Hulu, which
is not Geo, which is owned by Disney, So I
guess they have two kind of services going. That's was
up with music? Well, do you have a couple interviews
coming up, which I guess we should have mentioned at
the beginning of this. Huh, yeah it now, Yeah, we
have Luke Bryan on the way. We'll get doing just
one second, and then you're hear from John Party as well.

(11:09):
Hope everybody's safe out there. Be sure to check out
The Raging Idiots latest record. It's a live record. People
always wonder what our songs are like when we play
a live show, so you can hear that we need
a record called live and what's this? Two? Three four?
Don't go shopping and Target? We Khaki dancing a red
shirt on? Don't go shopping and Target right we Khaki

(11:32):
pancing You check that out? Thank you, and um, we'll
take a little break. Come back with Luke Brian here
Bobby Bones show. Oh wait, no, Bobby, Bobby, what is
this Bobby telling you? I'm doing so many shows right
now on this one spot. I'm going crazy. Uh, Bobby
cast thank you. Maybe where are you at? I'm down

(11:55):
in Mount Pleasant at my bath, my bath, my bath,
Like are you spend a lot of time out there?
Since every everything's kind of shut down? So man, you know,
in the world of obviously with everybody being a lotdown,
it's nice to building. I've been bouncing back and forward,
just hopping in my car driving down here, fishing a

(12:17):
little bit and going home. And you know, when you
when you can go get on a bathboat by yourself,
that's that's pretty legit social distancing. So yeah, you know,
it's been weird to not be working, I mean, like
not be gone working. It's gotta be that way for
you too, right, because only were you you know, doing shows,
but doing idol, like all that's kind of been scrapped

(12:38):
for a bit anyway. Yeah with me, Yeah, I mean
it's it's amazing. You don't realize how much how busy
you are, how how much running around in a day
you do. I mean, I I think it's you know,
with all the with all the tree of key aspects

(13:00):
of this thing, I think it's gonna be pretty interesting
for people to really take a step back and and
understand what's important and what's not. And I mean we've
I've done that already. I mean it's it's been um,
it's just been nice. You know, it takes you about

(13:20):
a week and a half too, it's you come in
phases of like reprogramming your brains. So now I think
I mean me personally, me and everybody in my world,
we're bought into that this could be a month, a
month and a half, two months, and we have our
routine and and everybody in my world feels like we're

(13:44):
we're pretty happy to be doing the right thing. You know,
Ryan had announced it, and I know we had kind
of known it was gonna happen a bit anyway, but
you know, we're gonna be do an Idol from our houses. Basically,
have you got your set up at your house yet? Dude?
I hit my power button accidentally three times and it
caught like it was an emergency. Have you ever done that? Yeah,

(14:08):
I've hit him before where it's like that that weird
before you swipe your phone. You actually you hit it
and it's like you you don't have to log into
your phone to push it. Yeah, I've done that before. Anyway, Sorry,
you said you were saying something about Ryan. Sorry, no,
So Ryan had kind of officially announced it where he
said that we're gonna all gonna be working from our
houses on American Idol. And I had asked if you
got your house set up yet? I just got my

(14:30):
stuff today. Have they already set you up? Um? You
know what they're stending. I hadn't gotten set up yet,
but I think I'm gonna do it down in my
barn at the house. So because right now, I mean
we're home school, I mean with the kids doing school
and stuff like that. Um, Um, there's a lot of

(14:51):
it's just gonna be better for me to kind of
go somewhere quiet. Well, it's talking to Caroline about homeschooling,
is she wants to pull her hair out. It sounds like,
oh my god, like yeah, she she's ready to kill me.
Well she I asked, because she was talking about all
that she was doing, and she was talking about having
to teach different kids different things and having to watch

(15:11):
over them. And I said, what's up with Luke? And
she was like, I'm gonna kill him? Yeah, Like it's
best for me to quarantine off by myself away from her,
So we don't need a Yeah, we don't need any
other you know, she may she may just knocked me off,

(15:34):
throw me in the river, you know, But anyway, we're
we're working through it. Man. It's just, um, it's been
like I said, it's just it's it's just so many
little bitty challenges and but at the end of it all, man,
I'm really proud of Like so, I mean, I'm just
proud of like we chose to quarantine with a with

(15:59):
a group like my nephew till he has four of
his high school buddies that we've been quarantined together since
March March fourteenth because we were we were all we
were all gonna go on a skiing trip and it
got canceled and then we just said, well, let's go

(16:20):
to our beach. And then at the beach, stuff starts
locking down tighter and tighter. You know, the the parameters
of what we should do got stricter and stricter. So
about March sixteenth, we we truly haven't left our group.
And um, and I mean, look, I've been Caroline, I mean,

(16:43):
her role kind of has been the mornings and me,
I've been cooking for I've been cooking for about fourteen
people a night. And uh, there was one night we
were at the beach that I went and I bought
a lot of I bought a lot of you know
food and stuff, you know, meats and ribs and stuff
like that. And we've just been been kind of storing

(17:04):
it and putting it in the freezer. But it's been
it's been but man, I mean it's been a really reflective,
interesting time for me. I mean it's just been been
pretty amazing. You you get in this routine of we're
we're we're, we're working, you don't even really look at
the you're working so much, you don't look at the

(17:25):
world around you. So it's nice to kind of um,
it's almost like, I mean, me and Blake. Blake texted
me a couple of days ago and we were laughing
because it was like, it's a glimpse. It's kind of
a glimpse into retirement, you know. Well, you know, I
was reading what you wrote about Joe Diffy and I

(17:47):
got to know Joe over the last couple of years. Um,
and it was so sad to see that that that
he passed away and that it was from Corona. And
I thought you had a really poignant instagram about Joe.
I just know what that relationship was like with you guys. Yeah. Man, So, Um,

(18:09):
I was a huge Joe Diffy fan. I'm talking about
from I mean from the first single Home I mean
I had. I was just a huge Joe Diffy fan.
And um, so I moved to Nashville in two thousand
one and a buddy of mine, a guy named Galen Griffin,

(18:31):
and I wrote I wrote one of my first singles
with Galen. Galen and Joe we're golfing buddies, and um
Galen calls me up and he goes, hey, man, you
want to go come play golf with me and Joe Diffy?
And I was like, hell, yeah, I'll be there. So
men through the you know, over the next couple of years,

(18:54):
I probably I probably played ten or twelve rounds of
golf with him. And this was before I even had
a record deal. I mean, this was this was very
early into my path. And man, he was just a
gentle kind just he was just a great dude. You know,

(19:16):
it was it was just a he just you know,
he let me come play golf with him, and he
just that was his thing and really laid back and
saw spoken and and I was just so blessed that
I got to have those moments on the golf course
with him. And and you know, I guess three months

(19:37):
ago I saw Joe. We did the Earl you know, Blake,
Blake really spearheaded the un Earl Thomas Connelly Memorial Concert,
and uh, and Joe was there and I got to
see Joe and and shake his hand, and and you know,
that was certainly the last time I saw him. And um,

(19:59):
I mean it's just heartbreaking. I mean he uh, you know,
when you look at the when you look at the
memories of kind of the nineties country, uh, you know,
nobody had a bigger you know, nobody planted a bigger
a bigger flag in nineties countries than Joe diff Joe
Diffie and uh, um even like I mean, it's made

(20:23):
me um as I've kind of been quarantined and I've
been Um, I've been like sitting in my tackle shed,
going through you know, oil and reels and just kind
of sitting there drinking a beer and man just listening
to you know, his whole body of work. It's it's just,

(20:45):
I mean, he's just one of the best, you know,
I mean when you look at his range from his
low end to his high end, I mean no, I
mean he was just one of the best singers that
ever lived. And a lot of you know, a lot
of people through the years of always believed that that
Joe Dippy was top to bottom one of the best
singers ever. Yeah, we also lost Kenny Rodgers. Did you

(21:08):
ever a relationship with Kenny the same deal? You know,
certainly didn't ever play golf Kenny. But um, I've got
a I've got a couple of great stories about um
my time with Kenny. Um, I just met him, UM
met him at different different you know, like CMT Awards

(21:33):
through the years and um and um just always I mean,
like I said, I mean he's one of those. And
I'm sure you're with um, you're with me on this.
He's He's one of my first memories of music. I
mean I listened to the Games. I mean, this is

(21:55):
gonna tell you how young I was. Or I listened
to of the Gambler on an eight track in my
you know, in my bedroom, and um, so to go
from just In In like the movie six Pack and
and just his his, I mean I remember being a

(22:16):
kid and I just watched that movie over and over
and over. That movie spoke to me in so many ways.
And um. But so I go on to to meet
him and and probably met Kenny eight to ten times
through the years. And um, the last time I saw Kenny,
I was, um, I was at Lionel Richie's um Kennedy

(22:42):
Center Honors, UM and and he was there and just
got to take a picture with him and just hugged
on him and loved on him and and um. Oh.
So the funny story is I was doing a farm
tour and I guess this was five or six years ago,
and Kenny's Kenny's youngest sons were at my farm tour,

(23:08):
and um, you know at the time, I guess they
were probably eight or nine years old, so now I
guess they're probably sixteen, you know, now they're probably now
they're probably sixteen years old and or maybe fifteen years old.
But they had gotten in a bad fire ant bed.
So we get Kenny's boys up on the on the
bus and try to get them some Cocola's and chill

(23:30):
them out, because I mean, you know, they got eat
up by fire ends pretty good. But uh so hopefully
you know, if they're out there, you know they certainly
I've seen. I saw Kenny, and that's what That was
one thing he and I laughed about a little bit
how I got his sons out to my concert and
got him eat up by fire ends, and he got

(23:51):
a big kick out of it. But you know, and
as um as big and as bold of a singer,
as um as undeniable as a singer, um as Joe
Diffy was, I mean, Kenny Rogers was somebody that I

(24:12):
viewed as maybe the best recording artist that country music
has ever seen. And it's funny, it took me a
few years to truly understand the definition of a recording artist.
I mean, there's big singers, there's loud singers, as powerful singers.
And when you look at the ability of the of

(24:35):
what Kenny Rogers ability to just record a song with
that with that smokey soft voice, and you know, he
didn't have the loudest voice in the room. He didn't
have the his ability to really record himself and to
record the songs that he chose through the years. I mean,

(24:56):
I don't know of anybody that's ever it's ever and
better and I mean just it's just you know, and
as I as I've grown, hopefully, as I've grown as
a singer through the years, you know, I've stepped up
to the microphone to record, you know, a song like

(25:16):
drink a Beer, and I learned that it's not about
singing loud, and it's not about singing about volume. It's
just about you know, really recording this thing and telling
the story of it. That's a direct you know, that's
a direct learning situation from from what Kenny Rodgers was

(25:38):
able to do. Well. Before I let you go, I
do want to hit on this that what she wants
tonight is your twenty four number one. You just got that.
Congratulations to you on that one there, you know, are
you to let me go? Well, we're gonna do a
quick one. I feel like you're like kicking around ice
chests or like, you know, uh, skinning a deer or
something in that room. Bobby, Bobby, I am totally cheer

(26:00):
old down. You get you get it, You get the
things you need. No, I get the things I need.
I was gonna talk to you about this song for
a minute because you wrote this with a couple of
friends of mine, Ross Cofferman, Hillary Lindsay, John Knight. So
you tell you do you remember getting in the room
to write this song? Oh yeah, So, so let me
you know the um the comedy of So Hillary, Hillary

(26:29):
Lindsay and I we go back. You know, Hillary is
a Georgia girl. When I moved to Nashville, Um, Hillary
was starting to really um take off and start becoming
one of the best writers of all time, and certainly
one of the best female and probably the best female

(26:52):
writer of all time. And so Hillary and I became
friends and then but we never wrote much. And I
would see Hillary and and I'd say, God, when are
we gonna write? So after all these years, I record
Knocking Boots, which she wrote, and and then you know,
she comes out to the house and I get in

(27:14):
the room with roths and John and her, and um,
I mean me and Ross and John have had some
success together. And then but for me to finally get
a song with Hillary Lindsay, Um, I mean, it's very
it's a very big deal for me. I've always just
I've always respected everything that she did and I'm so

(27:37):
proud that me and her finally you know, got a
big one together. And and uh and and you know,
so that day in the room, Ross comes in, I
mean Ross comes in and he has that that Sinton Sinton.
He has a track rock and you know, and him
and John Knight had worked on a melody throughout the chorus,

(27:59):
and we jumped right in there and it just started,
you know, all the all the pieces fell into place,
and man, I left that room. Um. John Knight, who
is one of my favorite singers in the town of Nashville,
I think that. I mean, he's just one of my
favorite singers. And John is Um he goes and records

(28:23):
the demo and the second I heard the demo, I
was like, I'm recording that and and and it's it's funny.
I've always um my history with Dallas Davidson through the years.
You know, Dallas will send songs that he writes, and
I'll and I'll send songs to him that I write
and and Dallas, Dallas just it was one of his

(28:47):
favorite songs that I've ever written, and it was certainly
one of mine. I just felt like it checked all
the boxes. It said a lot, it was a sexy song,
and um, it was ranging and the man I just
so out that it went to number one. You know,
your record is coming out right now. We're recording this
on April twods, so we got, uh, you know, a
little over two weeks until this record comes out. At

(29:10):
this point, have you already started working on, at least
in your mind the next record. Are you already writing
songs and you're creatively out of this space already for
the record. What's happening right now? Well with me, um,
excuse me, um, with me? You know, we're we're I'm

(29:32):
always going to continue to write and maybe at you know,
we're going to do a ten song release, So what
we would probably do was add more songs to that
initial ten song release and um, and then that gives
us the freedom if we get a song we're really
behind to put it on this current album. So it's

(29:53):
almost like you you obviously understand the format what I'm
talking about. I mean, it's like, if if I have
a song that I love that I want to go
record tomorrow, I'll run in and record it. And then
if we if we do an extended version of this
current album, you know it'll be on there and um

(30:15):
so um so that's kind of my mindset. And then
once week, I think my mindset is to really focus
on writing a little bit every month, try to write
three or four five songs a month, keep them, keep
the keep the train rolling, and and then look at
the label when the label kind of tells me, hey,

(30:36):
you're your awareness or your excitement over this current current
project has kind of passed, and you know, people feel
like they're ready to hear a whole another approach. That's
when we'll go on to a new kind of a
new album. That's kind of gonna be my approach, and

(30:58):
we'll see how it works. And you know, with me,
it's it. It'll always be about um you know, just
kind of record the songs that speak to you at
the time. Um I look I look over, you know,
I don't um I look over. Kind of my whole
body of work. And I've really checked a lot of

(31:19):
boxes in the songs that I want as a whole career.
You know. Now it's about are things a little new,
with things a little different? I mean, at some point,
you know, I need to really really, uh look at
some fun collaboration partners. I've always I've never really dove

(31:39):
into a lot of collaborations, and certainly that's becoming a
popular thing to do and and um, so we'll see
if you know what kind of music gets bred from that.
But hey, so are you're at home right? All right?
Walk to your front door? Wait? What? Walk to your

(31:59):
front door. I'm up. I'm upstairs. I mean I can
I'm upstairs your front door. Yeah, Mike, can you go to
to the front door? All right? Mike's walking out of
the front door. So everybody, it is Bobby's forty birthday today.
Happy for Bobby. Thank you. I saw that this morning.

(32:20):
I don't come to the forty club. How does it feel?
I don't like it that much? But you know, what
are you gonna do? I'm happy to be here. I'm
happy are the things that I've been able to do
and do for others. So I'm pretty I'm feeling pretty good.
I don't know what's about to happen right now, though.
Why is Mike going to the front door? Well, I
just um now, First of all, everything in the box

(32:43):
has been sanitized to the to the ump teath degree,
so um, it has been thoroughly sanitized. But I just
want to have a little fun with you on your birthday.
And you know, thirty I hated thirty. Thirty was a nightmare.
Why wasn't Forty didn't hit me as bad? Well, forty,

(33:04):
I'm not married with kids yet. I think that's gonna
happen pretty soon ish. So if our forty and had
like that stuff, I think I'd be pretty good. But
forty hits me harder than thirty because at thirty I
felt like who cares? At forty, I'm like, all right,
I gotta get some of the life stuff going. I've
haven't focused too much on work. You know. See, thirty
hit me hard because you know, I was trying to

(33:25):
get my music career really to the next level. I
was playing college bars. So when you're twenty eight playing
a college bar, that sounds okay, But when you're thirty
playing a college bar, it starts getting a little up,
a little dicey. All right, is this from you? Is
it a is it a bag or a box? A
shark bag? Oh, I can't verify the bag. Let's see

(33:52):
what we got here. It is every piece of gum
you could ever imagine. Listen, here's the thing. Is I
chew gum. And the last time Luke and I were
together for a long time, I probably went through three
packs of gum in five minutes. And so now I
got I got a bag full of double bubble that

(34:15):
I will choke on. This is this is awesome. Thanks
may I appreciate that. So yeah, me and uh so
for everybody to know that, you know, the last time
I was with Bobby, you know because obviously well you know,
Bobby doesn't drink. But I'm like, this guy's gotta have
a vice out there. His advice is chewing bubble gum.

(34:37):
So well, I appreciate that. Man. No, we were having
a little fun with you and I had a carry
dropped it off and I hope you, like I said,
if you want to re sanitize it, I would, But
you know, at least they're an individually wrapped container. They
are that. Well, listen, I'm gonna let you go. I
appreciate the birthday gift. If you need anything, let me

(34:59):
know and congratulate Asians on the song. And you know,
it'll be interesting, will be a history made idle season
because we're gonna be working for you. Guys are gonna
be working from home judging. I'll be working with the
contestants from home on a connection. And it's gonna be
the first ever Idle season where we're not with the contestants.
It's gonna be wild. I didn't really know what's gonna
happen for all the way through. Yeah, man, I mean,

(35:21):
and you know what, I tell you what I do.
Want to say one thing while I got you. I mean, um,
you know, I never get to see what you're doing
while we're you know, we're doing our deal, you're doing
your deal, and man, you're just the way you're treating
these kids is just so admirable and so perfect and
thank you for well. I mean, you know, I know

(35:42):
you and I have kind of taught in private, but
I mean, you're gonna be a licensed psychologist by the
time all this is done. Yeah, I'm just trying to
fix fix them before they walk in and fix them
back after you guys break them down. Yeah, you need
to get like maybe doctor Phiel or somebody to give
you an honorary psychology to here or something. Well, man,
have be safe and tell the family. I said, hello, listen,

(36:04):
happy birthday, and thank you for having Caroline on all
the time. And I love you, Love you, dude, Say
what's going on? I've been good. Are you know what
stage of boredom or laziness are you at right now? Nothing? Really,

(36:31):
I've been doing a lot of stuff outside. So the
only thing that's getting me is allergies. Man, my girlfriend
is getting crushed by them. She's never had them and
she's been here for three weeks and they're just nailing her. Yeah.
It's a it's fun to watch everything turned green, but
at the same time the pauling and stuff is getting

(36:51):
getting wild. Have you ever been to an allergist? Yeah,
and it was weird. The only thing that was like
really allergy to dust mites. I got dust mites too.
Did they do the thing where they poked in your back? Yeah,
take a shirt off. They put a bunch of markings
on you, and you just felt extra vulnerable and like
I thought, a little bit chubby and like the lighting

(37:13):
wasn't good in the room and they probably yeah, I
just it just wasn't a good environment for me to
feel to feel cute, you know, yeah, I mean not
to get all like not and bringing up poop or anything.
But my doctor said, if you do a stool sample,
you you can test a lot more allergies than that.

(37:34):
But I didn't do that. I've never done a stool
sample for anything. That would be a tough cup to hit.
Is it a cup or see that should be a bowl.
I'm not sure how they do stool samples, because I can.
It's like a top hat, that's what they and I
just I just couldn't. I was like, I don't know
about pooping in the bag. Yeah. Um, well, it's good

(37:57):
to talk to you again. Something I was gonna tell
you is that before the a c M S came out,
because you were nominated for a c M Album of
the Year and the show wasn't able to happen. And
it's got to be a bit frustrating that you're nominated
for one of the big awards and then you don't
even get to know if you want or not until indefinitely, right, Yeah,
when well, yeah, supposedly right. So here's my question to you.

(38:20):
I had recorded the nomination like four days prior to
them actually announcing it, and I knew that you were nominated,
But I had to decide as a friend, did I
want to call you and give you the heads up,
or or call mel and give our the heads up,
or just since I knew you, want to let you
experience it when it was announced. Looking back, which would

(38:42):
you have rather I done? Or I did? I like
the surprise, so I made the right call. Then yeah,
do you're thing and announcing everybody? And then my name
popped up? But I thought that was cool? Was that
the one you guys really hoping for? Yeah? I mean
I think we worked so hard on the record, and

(39:04):
to get a nomination, that's that's press a that's a
big award on the show, and and as a producer,
as a songwriter, and and just as making an album
that you want everybody to listen to, that just really
puts the stamp on it. You have to postpone your wedding,
Sure did, But the good part is a movie in Nashville.

(39:25):
Oh yeah, So would you guys consider getting married earlier,
quietly and then having a wedding like for everybody else
a wedding in a party. Are you guys really just
holding off? Um? No, I don't. We're gonna do what
We're gonna act like we're gonna get over this, and
but it's it's not gonna be until Summer does not

(39:46):
want to be getting married next year, but she's we're
gonna we're gonna shooting for November. Now, so you scaled
back or like, what's the what's the Nashville plan? It is? Uh?
I just said this big barn and somewhere somewhere in Franklin,
I think, And uh, we're just kind of working out

(40:07):
the details right now. We just got a date and
and so it's all kind of brand new again. But
we got to do it all over again. A few
days ago, Joe Diffy passed away. I got to be
friends with Joe the last couple of years. I know
that you were a Joe Diffy fan too. Uh, you
ever get to spendy time with Joe? I did. I
wasn't too much, but he was so nice every time

(40:27):
I ran into him, and we like had a couple
We had to hang up in uh at Whiskey Row
up on the upstairs after a Dirk's concert. He was
there and hanging out and just like the nicest guy.
Told me he was the biggest fan and he loved
while I was doing it, was just like such a
nice guy. You could tell he was just like a

(40:48):
big teddy bear, you know. And it's just bone me
out for someone like that to, you know, to see
go to thing that just came out of nowhere that sucked.
I really like Joe too. Man. Uh, so we're all
in quarantine pretty much. You've been watching a bunch of
movies or now, Um no, I really I've been. Uh

(41:13):
it's kind of chilling talk. I don't know, face timing
um playing the guitar. Man, I've been on the escavator
a lot branches. And because I got this new property,
I'm I'm cleaning up, so you know, and when you're
on a track to your economy, you know, I call
it the quaranteam machine. Like I'm not there's nobody around me.

(41:36):
So I've been doing that and it kind of kind
of keeps me saying for right now. Recently, I drove
up beside you and I wasn't paying attention. I was
looking ahead, and this dude this big old red work
trucks like screaming at me. It was you in a
big red work truck. What were you doing in the
big red work truck? And is that your work truck? Yeah,

(41:57):
that's that's Randy. I named him Randy for hand Randy.
Um he uh. He's my single cab at foot bed
truck that it's really good for towe and stuff and
and hall and stuff around. And it's got that headache
rack on the back so I can put like wood

(42:17):
over the cab and everything. So what are you doing now?
It sounds like you're walking into the commode or what. No,
I stepped outside. But I got squeaky doors this week
so much i'd be a squeaky door we um. You know,
we've been buying stuff online over at this house a
little bit. If you bought anything online this week, my

(42:38):
online shopping is kinda stopped. What else I did buy something? Oh?
I bought a wood splitter, And you are straight up
in in mo. You're gotta get more done during coronavirus
than you would have in a year without coronavirus. Well
that's why that was the point of it. You know.
I was just like, you know, I'm just gonna work
on my property, try to write songs and and just

(42:59):
stick them myself. You know. The other properties forty acres
and it's right right down the road. So I'm really
just me doing stuff and staying busy and and it's fun.
You know, I enjoy it and it's healthy. Accept the allergies.
But you know, you're you're constantly moving and working out
and uh, and then you get to see it get done.

(43:23):
You know, there's so many trees in Tennessee, and um
so if you need me firewood, man, we may need
to splitter. We were just talking, Caitlin and I were
just talking. We were like, hey, she wants to go
build a fire because I have a spot to put
a fire in the backyard which I've never used. It's
a pit and I don't even have any firewood, much
less anything else to get a fire going. And I

(43:43):
was like, you know what, we don't have any wood
and we're not gonna go chop any wood. So sorry
on that fire pit, but if you have some extra,
would you may drop some off over here. I could
do a coat, I could do a quarantine drop off.
I just put on the street. You gotta put it
on the front board, just put on the street. What
do you do you looking at all? You cook? Summer
does and she's really good. We we've been eating a

(44:04):
lot um. We've been postmating some um. But we uh,
we did like we got it. Oh, we got a
hair fryer. That's a that's pretty cool for quarantine. Yeah
what is that? And it fry stuff, but it fries
it without grease. I guess, yeah, is that is that
a real thing? Is that real frying? Then? If it's

(44:26):
without grease, yeah, okay, it tastes really good. So we
made these taketo chicken taketo stuff and Summer put it
in the fryer. Man, it was good. And we had
coconut shrimp and you fry fish and it's less greasy
and taste real clean. Have you learned anything about Summer
since you're together all the time now that you didn't

(44:46):
already know. I mean, there's just she's just she's just
not a morning person. I'll be like, hey, good morning,
and she's like she's kind of a zombie in the morning.
So I got to let her get her her day started,
like do her saying she has her regiment. I just

(45:07):
kind of leave her alone. And that's my kind of
where you where I always used to kind of bugger.
Now I just kind of leave her alone. Are you
a morning person? Though? That's kind of weird for an
artist who's out playing late shows to be a morning person.
I'm a morning person if if the sun's out now
the sun not out, because I can tell by looking
through the uh, the shutters, like what the day is
gonna be by just like the the blue or the gray.

(45:30):
And I'm just like, man, if it's raining outside, I
know it's gonna be like an inside day. Let me
ask you a question about music. We've got a few
more minutes here with you. Uh the Heartache? Did you
do a second heart Ache song to match the two
Boots songs? Is that like a O C D thing?
You kind of keep it even? No? Um, I just

(45:50):
feel like, have you got to get the title regardless
of what the words are. Um, it's a good title.
Heartache Medication was just a different way to kind of
talk about healing with a little bit of beer or
something and something. We just different. You don't really here
and it was just kind of fun. So um I

(46:12):
I brought it up, but the label was like, no,
it's fine. So now you need is a heart ache
boots song and just bring it all together, you know,
heartache and boots or something like that. And then you've
got the two boots too heartaches and then you put
a nice little bow on it. She sold my boots
and now I got a heart ache. Yeah, that's it.
The last time you put on your cowboy hat? Oh um?

(46:38):
Two days ago? Oh yeah? Are you wearing it around?
I wear my straw one um when it's sunny out
a little uh you v protection? Maybe that's what I need.
What if you saw me wearing a straw cowboy hat?
What would you think? For real? I say, right on, bro,
because I'm wearing pearls right now. I have some man pearls,
which is the opposite of a strong cowboy hat. Now

(46:58):
what would you see if you saw me in my
I have on these blue man pearls. What would you
say to me if you saw me wearing these? Man?
Bobby has been hanging out in l a lot got
to Hollywood style? Now stop it? Uh. Let me ask
you a question here. When did you change your name
to just at John Party when it used to be

(47:19):
John Party Picks? What was that whole and how hard
was it to get Well, some random guy had John
Party on Instagram for a long time. He would give
it up, So that's why we had the John Party picks.
And then that guy went away. What do you mean
you went away? Did you kill him? Fed him to
a tiger? No? I don't know what he I guess

(47:42):
he probably got tired of people blowing them up. I
don't know, um, not literally blown him up, but like
just instagramming him. Um. But no, it came available out
of nowhere, and so we're like, yeah, let's do it
because it's just easier to put your name and instead
of like having another word attached to it for searching.

(48:04):
I don't know. Yeah, no, no, you're right. I was
just I didn't know what you had got John Party.
I can't get Bobby Bones. Yeah, maybe he'll go away
some dude. Yeah, wink wink. Did you you watch Tiger King? Oh? Yeah,
see that. I forgot to tell you why I did
watch Tiger King? All right, go for it. Tell me
about this, Like, what do you think about this show?

(48:25):
I was it's so funny how it's and we could
still see a world we never knew existed. Isn't that crazy?
That's what I was thinking to like, how did I not?
And I'm and so close to me where I grew
up to in Arkansas? I mean yeah, and had I
didn't know? Because those they say those tigers were like

(48:46):
two thousand and four thousand dollars dogs called if you
get a dog, you caught more than that. Yeah, I mean, dude,
there's some there's some pricey dogs. A little French bulldogs
prices two thousand dollars for a baby. It made me
want a baby tiger. But then what do you do
with it? When he gets big? You give it away?
Because I'm not gonna do what Doc Antler did where

(49:07):
he had a gas chamber for those things. Man, that
was crazy, supposedly supposedly and they said he rated that guy.
But he's got to have like a secret offsite place,
you know, and and all the wives, Oh man, that's
it's crazy. Do you feel like Joe? Exotic guy said

(49:29):
he had a what is a furnace, uh, furnace that
he could you know, take him the ash real quick,
that's what he was saying, which makes sense because all
you gotta do is let the blow in the wind.
See a tiger. Well, and then you know Carol's husband
who maybe was eaten by a tiger, and then you

(49:50):
start reading about and hearing that tiger's digestive systems can
actually pretty much melt a human like they eat it
he just goes away. Oh yeah, it's it's it's it's
very entertaining and very just like whoa. Did you know
that Joe Exotic wasn't singing those songs? I did not know,

(50:10):
but I kind of thought so because I was like,
he doesn't sound like that, yeah, because he kind of
sounds like yes, and then the guy's singing sounds like
this when he sings. Oh yeah, yeah, that's good though.
I thought it's pretty good. Serious. So I was glad
it happened when it did because it gave me something
to bench watch whenever. It was just getting so nutty.
It started as soon as coronas Art happening. Yeah. I'm trying.

(50:33):
I'm trying. I'm bad with titles and movies, but I
was trying to think about what I watched. I've been
watching some some classics. Oh you know, for summer, I
watched Hitch. Oh yeah, that's good. It was funny. It's
still funny, I don't remember it, you know, so I
tried to focus on I've seen it, but do I
remember it, you know, because it's it's been a while.

(50:55):
So but yeah, streaming, I mean, what would do well?
I mean, I love I missed Blockbuster, but we wouldn't
be able to go to Blockbuster. But you skipped all
the cable and all and we went all the way
back to block Well. Listen, man, I'm glad to hear you.
Well you skipped about twenty years. You went straight from

(51:16):
Blockbuster to streaming. There was a whole life that happened
in between that. But yeah, yeah, yeah, no, I get you.
I mean video games like you can buy them on PlayStation.
I just bought one today. I was like, man, I'm
kind of bored, so I spent seven dollars and bought
a trivia. Are you playing PlayStation for sure? Yeah? I
mean I am when I get bored of his raining?
What do you have? Do you play online? Um? Dude,

(51:39):
they're so hard these days. Man. Um, let's see there
are some grand Theft Auto, there's Call of Duty. Um yeah,
we played Call of Duty a little bit to new
and you know who else places Brett Brett and I
play a little bit. Yeah, so I don't have the
headphones though. Yeah, well that's how you know. You don't
play with the headset because you got to talk into

(52:00):
it too. And I don't ever play with like kids
that are way better than me because after they kill me,
they say a bunch of bad words and I'm feel
uncomfortable and they're like seven. I know, it's just it's crazy.
Well they're hard, man. I feel like it's failure. I
can't even I can't even get through this level. Well, listen, man,

(52:21):
I'll let you get back to it. I just want
to check in and see what was going on with you. Uh,
congrats on everything. And on the other side of this, uh,
you know, I hope you get you an A C.
M Award and then you're gonna get back out on
the road. Like everybody else, we're just kind of itching
to go see the people again, you know. Oh yeah,
how you hold up? You're good? Yeah, listen. I have
everything at the house right, Like, I have a I
could do my radio show here, I could do my
podcast here. I have Stanley, I got a girlfriend that's here.

(52:44):
I got I got the whole thing, so you know,
I get bored because I'm not able to travel around
and and work. I can't tour obviously in do comedy,
and I can't go do TV shows in l A.
But I got a lot better than most people, you know,
I think both of us do. That's awesome, man. Well,
I'll save you a pile of firewood and text you
want to leave in your drive away you know what
if you if you do, we would definitely take it

(53:05):
because she's just dying for a fire pit. Okay, Well,
the it's supposed to be here April seven through the stifteen,
so I hope he gets here then. So all right,
but I'll save you some wood, all right, talk to
you soon, but yeah later
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