Maddie of Maddie and Tae talks about releasing their first new album in almost 5 years...in the midst of a global pandemic. Maddie talks about when she thinks they will get to go back on tour. Jenn Wayne of Runaway June talks to Bobby Bones about how she got coronavirus from the grocery store. She said she drove 1 hour and a half to get a test after realizing she lost her sense of smell. Bobby and Eddie talk about the new music this week from Brett Eldredge, Morgan Wallen, Luke Combs and Kip Moore.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Welcome to episode to forty one. Coming up, we'll talk
to Maddie from Maddie and Ta. She talks about if
she's ever done interview without Tay. They're not together, and
I don't want to cross a bunch of phone lines,
So we got Maddie coming up. She's just a great
interview as a lover, as a person, she just is
a delight. Actually, since we finished the interview, cause you're
(00:24):
here in a minute, I texted her management and I
was like, a plus, Like as far as interviews and
people go, a plus. She does. The thing that startles
me a little bit, and it is so good for
an interview is that she asked questions back. My job
as an interviewer is to make it sound like we're
just talking. There's actually a lot more work going into
(00:46):
it than than you would think done by Mike and myself.
There's preparation, and there's listening, and there's you know, having
the confidence to know that doesn't matter where they go,
you're fine with another question. I don't even look at
questions for the most part. I'm listening and going. But
there's all this. But then when she goes, oh, let
me ask you this you're like, you're you're kind of
thrown off because it's it makes it so good. She's
(01:08):
so present to go. You know, I'm also curious about
you now. I think she probably genuinely is. But even
if she wasn't, such a great tactic to use while
being interviewed. I do it a lot of my interviews
because I'm the best interviewee because I interview all the time,
and I know what people want when they're interviewed. So
(01:28):
I'm I'm great at being interviewed because I just interviewed
people all the time. So you get me on, you're
gonna have to ask me like one question. I'm gonna
give you a big, old long, excited or emotional with
questions at the end. So she's great. I can't say
enough about it. So Maddie from Maddie and Tay, they
got a new record that's coming up in a second. Also,
Jen Wayne who has coronavirus. Jenn Is from run Away
(01:52):
June Freaking Guy has corona. I just saw it on
I know Jen pretty well and I didn't know until
she posted it. I think you just that you're like,
jin White has corona, and I was like, so we'll
talk to her coming up in a second. So I
like today's show. Let's kind of looking at some headlines
here because you know, concerts, who knows, there'll probably some
(02:15):
but who knows this year, But even Facebook is canceling
any company event with over fifty people until June. It's
just so many people are gonna do it early that
it's gonna make those who don't look like they don't
care as much about people. Does that make sense? Yeah?
I get Netflix stock gets a record high, is now
worth more than Disney. Wow, that's nutty, that's crazy. So
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I guess we just finished talking with Eddie, but now
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to Eddie Eddie's on Hey, by the way, you just
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were looking at my Instagram story a few minutes ago.
Why did you stop after the picture of the guy
and the girl? Yeah, because you didn't keep going. Do
you know what instant? Nope, what was the last one
you saw? Um? No, that was my girlfriend stretching me
before the peloton, and that wasn't the last one. Yeah,
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that's what I saw, the stretch. Well, it's always annoying
when someone goes through only some of your Instagram stories
and they got bored with some of them. What I do,
just to be a good person is if I'm bored,
I just go ahead and knock out, knock them all
out so they don't see. I didn't look at all
of them. Yeah, yeah, even I'm not looking. I wanted
to feel like I was consuming everything they put out there,
(04:06):
so well that that did not happen with me. I
watched all years and then I went on to the
next I don't know. Did you watch this episode of
Easy Trivia? I did well. I watched the start of it.
I didn't finish it. I saw de Marcus wears on it,
which is awesome. Yeah, it's a good episode. De Marcus
is on it, and I make him do something with
his muscles because I'm not gonna say, I'm not gonna
run it. But Sharna is on it, uh, the the
(04:27):
Center for the Titans, Ben Jones is on it. Uh
and John Party's on it. So yeah, yeah you should.
You gotta be on it in the next couple of weeks. Yes, man,
I'm waiting for my invitation. I'm ready, all right. New
music out this week, Brett Eldredge dropped his first new
song in two years. Here is Gabrielle Where you are
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wi Ye. I wonder what that song because the girl
that wrote this song about is not named Gabrielle. Brett
and I are friends, and I know that the girl
that he wrote about is not named Gabrielle. I wonder
if he had the rhyme I wish you well, And
(05:09):
then it's like, what's the girl's name? We can should
put it here to the rhymes with wish you will
because it's kind of a weird name to pick if
it's not the girl's name. Right. Is unique because if
you're sitting around writing a song about a girl and
you're like, well, I can't use the real name, what
name will we use? It's like not Bertha or Gabrielle
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or you would pick like a normal name, right, So
you think wish you Well came first and they're like,
we need a name to rhyme back. I don't know
for sure, but it's just it's a it's a tough
name to kind of pull out of the air, Gabrielle.
That's why I do like the song. And Brett's going
a hold different way with his music a little bit
you can't fully tell yet with just that song, but
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he's did a whole shake up, you know, with management
with it's so you know, it's kind of doing a
little bit mature, you know, Brett Eldridge as an adult
type thing that I think people are gonna like. So
his first new song on in two years, Morgan Wallen
shared he's dropping a new album this year, and today
he shared the single more than My Hometown and here
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is a clip of that. I love more than more
than son and more so I love What do you
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think about Morgan Wallon? I love it. I love Morgan Wallen,
and I hope that he continues to put out hits
for a long time because there's something about his music
that's just so simple. It's like it's that truly like
and it could be his look and everything, you know,
cut off leaves, mullet and all that. It almost has
just a feel of this like a real redneck country dude. Literally,
(06:52):
we're just writing a song by himself. I don't know
that's the case, but that's what it feels like every
single time. Here's a unique texture in his voice when
he sings in the room with you too. You know,
he's performed on our show and he sings and he
sounds as good in person as he does live, and
you don't hear him to go wow, that's a big
vocal guy. But he sounds as good in person as
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he does on a record. And there's just something about
his vocal tone that is different when he sings. And
I wasn't a big Morgan wall And fan with the
first couple of songs because they sounded like all that
broad country stuff that was coming out for a long time,
but I tell you I kind of love him now,
and that the one that really pushed it over for
me was Chasing You. That's such a jam that it
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just converted me to listen to some of his other
songs and want radio songs, and I was like, oh,
I do really like this guy. They just picked those
songs because they were super radio friendly, So yeah, I
like that guy a lot. Luke Combs shared a brand
new song he wrote this week about the current times
we're going through, and he just put it off on YouTube.
Here is six ft apart. Miss My mom My, miss rude,
(08:00):
I miss mapping, give it shaking. Hey, it's a mystery
as boot just tell miss things, Suby crabs and buby shoots.
There will be let after done. We are six ft there.
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Crazy that he can write a song that isn't a
total cornball song about coronavirus. Yeah it is. It's surprising
he's because you gotta imagine everyone trying to do it
and being like in the middle of it going no
way then way too dumb. Because even when I saw
the title six ft Apart, I was like, oh, man,
like I trust Luke to write good stuff. Luke Hombs
because he just does, and I was like, if there's
(08:51):
no way, and then he does, and You're like, holy crap,
how does he keep doing that? Do you think bones?
Do you think that there's gonna be like some kind
of um explosion of like a bunch of Corona theme songs,
like about quarantine songs? Oh no, I don't zero. I
mean there may be songs about isolation, there may be something,
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but I don't know that there's gonna be a whole
playlist that's gonna be made of all the quarantine jams
from because I was talking to someone about it, you know,
like one of the neighbors that was walking by works
for a record label, and he said that a lot
of artists are just trying to see if they can
record full albums in their houses with their homes tool
(09:32):
because a lot of artists have home studios. It's like
it's gonna sound so different if they do, Like if
we do this for you know, for a while, these
albums are gonna be made in people's houses, and maybe
it will be that coronavirus sound, you know, like that
low fi a sound I thought you were talking about.
All the songs is gonna be about coronavirus. Well both
remember both, okay um. I definitely think there could be
(09:55):
some EPs come out of this that have a slightly
different texture, but especially if it's a long lockdown. But
I don't think it's gonna be another six months, you know,
to where people can't get to a studio. I do
think it'll be a long time before they can have concerts.
But I think there's something to that. Or you may
have people putting out you know, the the the the
(10:18):
quarantine session or something like that that's a few tracks
made from their house. I do think you're onto something there.
I don't think you're gonna have a bunch of quarantine
songs or the COVID blues or the sanitizer rises. Yeah,
I was, and you'll hear this later in the show
if you're listening right now. But I was talking to
(10:39):
Maddie and I mentioned about Taylor Swept saying she's doing
no concerts in just based on what you know right now.
When do you think they'll be concerts again? Oh, not
until next year, I mean or late late this year.
I mean maybe like November December. But then I would
think it's excar to be safe. I mean do you
feel like what this is what I feel like with
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Taylor doing it and saying that it's it's kind of
setting the precedent of if the big ones don't do it,
nobody else should do. Yeah. Is it would be tough
to get someone like a Luke Combs or someone like
a Luke Brian or an al Dean to takety thousand people,
(11:25):
ten thousand, whatever the number is, lady enveloped and make
them all get in a room together. You know, I
could see if you were going to do a small
show for like twenty people. I don't know. I just
think it's it's tough right now, you don't want to
be the first one to do it. What about you?
As like, if you just go into a concert, when
would be the first time you would want to go
to I'm not going to be safe? Yeah, yeah, once
(11:46):
the vaccine comes out. Yeah yeah, I mean I but again,
I think I'm a little more germaphobi than most people,
and I'm also around a lot more music, so it's
not like a concert is as big a deal to me.
So I think I'm a little different than than most folks.
But I'm not going Mike, would you go to one
(12:06):
of your punk shows with amsh No, I don't feel
safe it. Yeah, yeah, it could be a while. I'm
gonna need the vaccine probably for me to roll into
somewhere and do my thing, because when I go to shows,
I spit on everyone. It's kind of my thing. The
shows are so sweaty and yeah, yeah, like I thought
it right. Yeah. Kept More released a new song called
South Paul. Here's this song A telling me the gun
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slinging sound all time a wrong because you never saw
me coming. I could be dangerous. I could be famous
on my name all of the fables saying I'm won Eddie.
What is What's you and Kip's relationship? I mean, have
a relationship with Kip too, but I wonder what is
your relationship with Kip? About? Ours is just mainly, you know,
(12:54):
we're both San Antonio's first fand so when basketball was long,
we would, you know, we would at each other about
basketball and just kind of keep up with different things
like the team got a trade or they traded two
players or whatever they suck like lately it's being like god, man, like,
how are you doing without sports? Kind of thing, But
it's just keeping up. He's really good at just keeping
(13:15):
in touch and just seeing how we're doing. See how's
the family, How's how's how's the show doing? And all that. Yeah,
he is actually text he's really good about keeping in touch,
keeping my relationship. Again, I would say we're closer than
am with a lot of artists, but only because we
really did not like each other and really got into
a big fight early on, not physical, but we were
(13:38):
just over it with each other. But what happened was
us pushing so far away made us go, well, we
should see if we really hate each other or if
there was just a missing like a fundamental misunderstanding. And
we got together and there was. And now I mean,
we've spent a good amount of time together and he
you know, he's a different kind of guy where he
likes to rock climb and live in nature and I
(13:59):
like WiFi and you know, NBA two K twenty. But
I do, like, really enjoy that guy and appreciate how
he looks at our I don't look out it the
same way, but I think us really getting into it
early in a negative way has made the positive so
much more because we had never even tried it has
just been too passing creators using each other for you know,
(14:23):
him for interviews or but but yeah, it keeps a
good dude. Yeah, and to him, his art's very important,
you know, Like, I don't think there's a song that
he puts out where he doesn't feel like it means
everything to him. So if you ever have read a
parody like what we did to one of his songs,
it may not be received. Blow. Yeah, you know. And
it was wet a parody. Then we tried to get
(14:45):
into play it and then I just roasted him for
weeks on the air about it. It just it wasn't
me just one time being ado. She was ultimate multiple times.
And Kevin calls me one day and goes, hey, like
we should talk and see what's up. And we met
for breakfast one day and every since then it's like, oh,
I get it, I get it. We don't have to
agree on stuff to actually respect and like each other. Um.
(15:05):
But yes, very keeps a very passionate guy, for sure.
I love him. Though. Lady Abelleum released a song from
song Land called Champagne Night Reason Don't Dazzles to get in.
(15:29):
I'm kind of crystal. Hey, I don't, Oh god, I
want to hear the another pours. I've never watched this
a full episode of this show, have you, Eddie? I have?
I like it? I like you, I think. I mean,
(15:51):
I've written songs, you know, so I'm kind of like
a songwriter. So I understand that it doesn't happen as
fast as it does on the show, but because the
show really makes it seem like they spit out the
idea fast and it it's done in ten minutes, and
then they record it and that process obviously takes longer
than that. But it's interesting. Man, It's an interesting show
to just kind of see someone with an idea and
(16:11):
then three really strong songwriters try to make something of it.
My question is, with Lady and Bell releasing the song,
did they write it or they just the people that
they go, Hey, we wrote it it one you sing it.
I don't know about I don't know this case exactly,
but usually what happens is there's a songwriter who has
a song already and here's the idea, and he presents
it to the three people on the show and then
(16:35):
they and then they get they get teamed up with
one of those writers, and then they that writer perfects
the song and if it gets chosen, then the artist
will record it. Does the artist ever get it on
the and Mike, you've watched you know, I've never seen it. Okay,
all right, see if they wrote that will you Champagne Night?
Because I know I don't think Old Domini wrote the song.
They did, and they always write their songs, but I
(16:55):
think for that show, they there's a you know, they'll
allow that to happen and an artist. Mike's gonna look
that up now? They didn't They did from the show
and then produced by Shane mcinally cool. Brad Paisley has
a song called No I and Beer calls together to
be It's all so clear treaking out a beer team
(17:18):
Ever there is no. Kenny Chesney has a new song
called Guys Named Captains, Named Captain Haters, Their Lovers, Living
Love Love largely undercover, nove Bars and Cartons, Waitresses and
(17:41):
tall Tones, Jason the Sun, Run Aground the Full sil
Captain Outrageous and Captain Tony. What do we think that
songs about? Does he say? Captain French? I'm waiting for it.
What their captains? And there could be a name checked
(18:03):
Captain Cook? Yeah, Yeah, I like the tone of that song.
I guess need to hear more. Finally, this is pretty cool.
Catalact three released the post Malone song Circle did the
cover of it. Here you go. We do this every time.
She's a free can run away, but we're running shirt,
(18:30):
run away, run Away. Have you heard that one? Yeah?
I heard it. I was wondering, dude, I heard it, Joe.
I wonder what Mike thought about it. I love it.
Jared's voice sounds awesome. It sounds good on it has
that gravelly kind of voice like post Malone. And they
(18:50):
recorded that in Quarantine because that Jared on the last
episode and he was like, we record something real cool,
you're gonna like it, and so yeah, that was it.
You can check out that episode if you're listening to
more new music. No clips on these Minke I got
them okay quickly. Jane Kramer Untouchable made, who can stand Breaking?
(19:11):
Sarah Evans hard to say. I'm sorry, old, it's what's
a cover? Yeah? I just want you to know that
Chicago is that Chicago guest on that right up? Been
through it in Chicago in Chico. Nice job, Eddie, m
(19:37):
miss you. That's a good one though. Mark Chestnut I
found another you somebody you know it's funny about Mark Chestnut?
Is we in our mind these artists don't get older.
We just know them as they look when we were kids.
(19:58):
And if you don't go look them up, you don't
know they've out older. And Mark Chestnut was playing our show.
Remember this, Eddie, this is so embarrassing. And Eddie and
I were big Mark Chestnut fans back in the day.
I can't say that I know much of his new
music in the past ten years or so, but we
were big, big Nut fans in the nineties. And he
was coming in and we were pumped, and his sound
(20:18):
guy comes in and start setting stuff up and he's like, hey,
where do I play? And I thought it was a
sound guy guitar guy. We're like, hey, you'll be right there,
and he was like, all right, what time we go on?
I was like yeah, but like three minutes and we
kept waiting for Mark Chestnut to walk in. It turns
out it was Mark Chestnut and that the older sound
guy that was that was Mark Chestnut. And then yes,
it was a whole thing he did how a cowboy
(20:40):
had on. It was weird. It wasn't It didn't look
like him at all, and he had hit on a
shirt that said like blink one day to two rocks
or something. It was just it was just weird. Yeah, yeah,
yeah yeah. Um let's see High Valley Rivers still running.
Here's the clipt worried about game rust and only has
(21:00):
a song called Brave and it didn't give up. Just dark.
This is my kind of jam right here. My girlfriend
thinks it's weird because I listened to all sad songs
all the time. It doesn't matter what mood I'm in.
I needed to be sad. It just needs to be
sad and slow, and the less instruments the better. I think.
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I like a song with no instruments and very little voice,
just a light hum. That's all I could take. But
this is like, this is it for me? I like
this all right. Kelly Clarkson put out a new song
called I Dare You Oh, and then finally Angels and Airwaves.
(21:44):
All that's left is love. Ah, there you go. Uh
what are you guys doing now at the house, Eddie? Well,
(22:06):
right now, we were just cut trying to cut everybody's hair,
and it's it's impossible with the nightmare right now? Are
you cutting it? Was your wife. Well, I started to
cut and then then Mike d called me, so then
I had to had to hand the clippers over. But basically,
I'm just gonna give him all the Sam Hunt cut
because that's the easiest where you just shaved the sides
in the back and then just left the top of
the way of what what what would just like a
(22:30):
bowl cut? Well yeah, but if you do the fake
line or whatever, it kind of looks like Sam Hunt.
So I'm I'm calling it that and they're cool with that.
All right. Well, I think that's all we're gonna do
because I got a couple interviews. I'm gonna hop over
to um everything else. Good, everything's good, man, we're here.
We're just staying safe. Yeah, Eddie came over to the
house and brought something over. Yes, I don't know why
(22:51):
it was coming to the house. He pulls up in
his jeep. Everyone's like, why is somebody outside our house?
It was Eddie. It's like, what's funny? Is like, you know,
I guess now you don't really get any guests, so
when one shows up, the door was wide open. It's
you your girlfriend. The dog runs out. Yeah. We're all like, yeah,
all right, um, get back to cutting here. Thanks for
Oh by the way, check out Eddie's Sports showed. You
talk about that for a second. Yeah, we did the
(23:12):
Sore Losers podcast. It's me Raimundo and lunch Box and uh,
we just talked about guy stuff. Right now, we're finishing
off a Sore Losers coin Flip Madness and since we
didn't have March Madness the basketball tournament, we're just flipping
coins and we made our own bracket. Explain that to me.
Do you just flip a coin and that's the winner? Yeah,
So it's just like the March Madness tournament, except there
(23:33):
aren't any games. So the game is a coin flip.
Do you do want to show? No? No, no, no.
We did it just kind of like the tournament. Did
we did? You know? Eight the first day and then
eighth the next day? And right now we're at the
final four and the championship is Monday and it's huge.
Is Arkansas gonna win it all this year? And the
coin you could could you give them a like an
at large? I hate to break it to you, but
(23:56):
Arkansas was in the brackets because hey, phones they were
of the first round. You know, we've never been good
coin flips. Alright, check out the Sore Losers podcast. I'd
appreciate it. Back to haircuts, talk to you soon, all right, Addie,
(24:16):
what's happening? Hey, I'm so sorry I called my I
have the wrong time zone and my freaking calendar like
an idiot. Where are you? I'm in Nashville. But for
some reason my like you know, I cont on. I
think my phone because I've been in so many time
zones the past years, it just gets whacked out and
sometimes it does not calculate the correct Well, I wouldn't
(24:40):
have texted you, but I figure we're all in some
sort of weird quarantine and something had to have gone
wrong because nobody really late anymore. We're all just kind
of looking at our clocks, going, well, I wonder what
time I do something next? I know, right, Hey, I
had so much fun on trivia. I was really disappointed
that I didn't get further. But that is such a
cool thing that you came up with. I love it.
(25:01):
Thanks a lot. How you How are you? By the way,
Are you good? I am good. We I mean, it's
been kind of crazy the past two weeks, crazier than
I expected. With the album release and everything. But I've
been good. That's the album has been my like silver
lining with all this craziness. How about yourself? Yeah good.
I mean I'm lucky where I have pretty much everything
(25:22):
at my house that I need to work, Like, I
have a radio studio. American Idol just sent me about
twenty boxes to set up a TV studio, so in
a in a weird way like, I'm okay, but I
have nothing new. You guys just put out your first
record in five years, which is which is crazy that
it's been that long. Huh. I know, well because whenever
we came on your podcast, what was that like three
(25:42):
years ago? Maybe two years ago. I don't know. My
timelines are jacked up, but we were still like in
those beginning stages with Universal, with the new record label.
How has that all been, because you've been there for
a couple of years, but you kind of went through
some changes for a minute. Yeah, the new company just Universal. Overall,
we've had the best experience, and I think we we
(26:06):
got to make the album that we loved because we
finally felt this new sense of creative freedom. Like we
went over there and they loved what we were writing,
and I remember Stephanie, right, our head of A and
R was like, Hey, go make an album that you love,
take the producers that you want, take the songs that
you love, and just do it. And and that's not
really what the first process was like. So it was
(26:26):
really really special and it kind of just taught us
how to trust our gut creatively and kind of follow
our own intuition. Um, and that's kind of how the
album came to be. I'm gonna play a few clips
from the record, so hank tie for a second that
the new album is called The Way It Feels. Here
is die from a Broken Heart. Here is a song
(26:56):
called Everywhere I'm Going It's yeah. And here's one more.
This is one heart to another more next Love. You know,
(27:26):
I was listening to the record the week it came
out because full disclosure, Maddie and Tay and myself we
have the same uh publicist, and so she was more
stressed about you because this is when we didn't know
what was happening with Corona. Really, it was so new.
They were just starting to shut stuff down. You guys
(27:46):
had a bunch a bunch of album promotion planned and
I'll tell you and it's always best to hear from
somebody else. She was so concerned and was so stressed
about you guys, like just true love and worry that
she wasn't gonna be able to get you guys out
a where. So I know, and they did a great job,
Like I you know, I think that they did the
best that they could. And you know, we we kind
(28:10):
of just all huddled up as a team and we're like,
look everyone like we had our social media team, are publicists,
are labeled everyone. We kind of just all put our
heads together the past you know, two months really since
the beginning of March, and we're just like, okay, we're
gonna do this and this, and planned a whole bunch
of stuff. So we kind of just are trying to
roll with the punches as as as possible. Did you
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ever think about not putting the record out? Was that
ever a conversation? Dude? There was no way in heck
that we weren't putting that album after how long we
had waited. I was like, you know what, I'm sorry.
I know there's this horrible pandemic going on, but you
can still release music. It is sanitary to do so.
And I was not backing down and no one, there
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was no one on our team that was like, hey,
maybe we should push this back because we were all
feeling that same way, like, you know what, We've had
so much adversity hit to make this album, and of
course there's a global pandemic the minute that we decided
to release it. But um, I'm so glad that we
released it too, because I think it's I think it's
kind of bringing some joy and some light to people's
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lives right now. You guys were gonna hop on the
tourist in This Town tour and would like every other tour.
It's done for now. No new dates have been announced yet.
I saw today the Taylor Swift that she's doing no shows,
like it'll be before she does anything. I just wonder
where your head is at with as far as live
shows and kind of what's being said about when you
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may be able to play again, Like what are they
saying to you guys? We're going day by day. We
all we know is we are planning, Like the plan
right now is to go out with Lady A and
July and then reschedule tours in this town for this fall.
But I will say, like it is stressful like the
possibility of not getting to tour because you know, I mean,
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you know, to being on the road. It's like you
employ a lot of people, and a lot of people
depend on you to feed their families and to pay
their bills, and so as a businesswoman, it's a really
like sad time, you know, I want, I want. You know,
a lot of our employees depend on our touring income
to pay their bills, and so that's that's probably been
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the thing that's the hardest and that's like the worst
like stress on my heart right now. Yeah, that's an
interesting thing to bring up to because I think from
the surface, people look at you guys and go, well,
Maddie and Tay can't get paid if it on tour.
But in reality, Maddie and Take can't pay the people
that can't do their job at all exactly if if
they don't and that's your tour manager, that's your front
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of house person, that's your guitar player, like they're sitting
back waiting for you guys to kind of give them
direction because they have no work right now exactly exactly,
and so we're just we're having to get creative with
like how to take care of our people as best
as possible. But you know, if there's no money coming in,
you know, it's just it's stressful. And I know a
lot of like self employed UM businesses are feeling that
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same pressure. So I just I just feel for everyone that's,
you know, just wanting to do something, and you know,
just we're just kind of stuck right now. Well, you're married, now,
so have you taken officially your husband's name or no? Yes? So? Well, actually, uh,
interesting question. I so I finally went to the Social
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Security Office and did that whole thing, which I'll have
to tell you a hilarious story off the record about
the Social Security Office. Um but um, I went in
and I changed my last name to his. But as
I was in the middle of changing my name earlier
this year, this pandemic hit. And so I have a
passport that says my married name, but my driver's license
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as my maiden name. So I feel like I have
two identities. I hope that's not illegal. I don't don't know, Mike,
what do you think about that? Can you keep one
and change one? I think you have to change on
both because you have to change them both. I think
that will be the way to do it like you
run up a bunch of bills on one Yeah, because
you could be two people. Yeah, okay, And how guys
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you're gonna put in? How is it going? Like? How
is being quarantined? And because it's like, you know, you're
together all the time right now, so I assume you
guys are get along pretty well. Huh. Yeah. We we've
been together for ten years this May, it'll be ten years.
So we've worked out a lot of those like Newlywood
Kinks long ago. Um, so it's actually surprisingly being really
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really good for our marriage. I know you you're in
a new relationship. How is that? Is it kind of
nice to get to sit and just be like a
couple and not like having to get your schedules on
track and all that. Has that been kind of different
for you? Well, it's been interesting. We were whenever she
came and she wasn't planning to quarantine here, but she
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was here for a week. She lives she lives in California,
but she came here and she was then like scared
to go home because California was way earlier than this.
They were shutting everything down, and I was like, hey,
why don't you just stay here for a couple of weeks.
It's been six weeks now, but I think that it
has really progressed our relationship because we've been together almost
every minute of every day for six weeks. It's been great. So, man,
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you I think you found your person then, because I
feel like this is the test if you're in quarantine
with someone and you feel like your relationship is strengthening,
like you are. You are ready to rock and roll.
You're handling a global pandemic, that and being together all
the time. Dude, did you and your husband lived together
before you got married. Yes. And I know there's a
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lot of people that are like, that's so lovely, you
know whatever, but um, we you know, he moved in
Texas from our hometown to come to Nashville and just
financially just didn't make sense for us. And everybody is different.
But I will say living together before was really great
for our relationship. I don't want to go like, hey,
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everyone do that, but oh I do. Really I think
you should live together. No, I will say on the record,
I think you should live with your person before you
get married. Because so glad that we did, because you know,
there's a lot of people that are like, oh, your
newly was as their struggles. Are you fighting? I'm like, no,
because we experienced those newly wed things long before, you know,
five six years before we were married. So I guess
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when you guys got married, it was just I mean,
it was a big event, but you already were in
that phase of mentally in the relationship totally like we've
treated it like a marriage. Honestly, when we were about
I would say, maybe nineteen years old. That was when
you know, we were out of high school and you know,
Jonah was in college and I had moved, and we
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were like, Okay, we're gonna do this. We gotta be
all in, and that was when we really decided. Jonah
actually gave me a promise ring when we were teenagers, um,
which isn't really a common thing, but he basically was
just like, hey, basically, I'm gonna put you on late away,
you know, just kidding that sounds awful, but it was
really sweet. So is this the first interview that you've
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done in a while without Taylor? I feel like her
name is Taylor when I talked about her by herself,
but when she's with you, guys, it's is it the
first one you've done without her in a while. I
don't think I've ever done a interview without her. Yeah,
so it's kind of cool to get to like, you know,
each have our own like, you know, we're together all
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the time, so sometimes it is cool to get to
hear her talk about everything and then kind of get
to share my side. But you know, the Taylor Kay
thing is a big thing for her because people that
she has a relationship with, she likes to be called
Taylor because she feels like that's more of like the
human part, and Tay is more of the like work.
But everyone calls me Maddie, so I don't really get
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No one calls me Madison because that would just be
weird and I probably wouldn't respond. I don't think if
you have as Madison at all, Like if I saw
you out, I wouldn't call you Madison. But I see
her and I call her Taylor by herself because I
think Taylor is a little more like serious, and I
feel like she's a little more serious of a person
and I am so opposite, like Madison is, no, that's
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very serious, and I am not a serious. Humans as
an artist with all this time at home are you
finding that you have any other skills or any other
things that that time has allowed you to pursue a
little bit. Um, I have been practicing my espanyol. I
actually was fluent as a child growing up in Texas.
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Um like South Texas and so um, I've been practicing that.
I've actually gotten decent at cooking. My husband's way better.
But I made this shrimp scampy the other night and
it was like restaurant quality. Even my husband said, though, UM,
I don't know what other skills I would say, I've
been playing a lot more guitar. I feel like I'm
getting a little bit better at like a little more
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confident with my guitar playing because I got a little
lazy there on the road. What's happened? And was watching shows?
Anything good? Um? Okay, I don't know if you would
like what we've watched. Hey, what was that documentary called
where they buried all the drugs and dug them up? Oh?
Legends of Cocaine. This is terrible, um, but it's on Netflix.
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And basically there's like this wise tail that some dude
dug a bunch of cocaine into the ground, and um,
like told this story around a campfire and this dude
went to try to go dig it up in Puerto Rico.
It's like this super wacky story. It's it's Tiger king
esk in the way that it's so wacky. But I
really enjoyed that. Did you watch Tigers Everywhere with Rhese
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Witherspoon is awesome? Oh yeah, that's on? Who that's on?
Said the name of the show again? What is the
Little Fires Everywhere? Yeah? I just finished the book yesterday
and then now I'm watching the show and oh my gosh,
it's so good. Are you finding a little bit because
this is what I'm struggling with, is that you have
so much free time that you're getting nothing done. Um.
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I am a to do list girl. I really like
even if it's as simple as like doing the chores,
or if it's like finishing a demo, which has been
interesting trying to figure out how to do a demo
by myself. That's a whole other thing. But um, I've
been trying to get like maybe one or two things done.
But like the past two weeks have been so crazy
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with album released that I've been giving my weekends like
actually having a weekend. I bet it's weird for you
to to actually have a Saturday and a Sunday because
our Saturdays and Sundays are like Monday, Tuesday or something. Yeah,
it's weird for me. Well, the weirdness for me is
I'm not traveling at all because I was on the
road constantly right even, But but I do. I actually
leave my house for work one day a week because
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I go to the Grand ol Opry and I hosted
and produced the Operate TV show. I don't touch anybody,
but it's I mean, it's just a different normal, is
what it is. But there will be time where if
I don't make a schedule out. I make a schedule
almost every day and from when I wake up from
when I exercise, because that keeps me. Like you said,
you have to do list person. I need my stuff
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timed so I feel like my day is moving because
if I don't, I'll have so much free time and
I'll just decide to do nothing. I know. I have
been battling that a little bit, and then at the
end of the day, I just feel like crap because
I didn't do anything. So even if it's like trying
to get a workout in or organizing something, or you know,
knocking out a bunch of emails or not that there's
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a lot of emails coming in going on. But you know,
I'm gonna ask a few questions about your favorite stuff
and then I want to get back to the record
for a second. But um, pretty pretty tough questions here
because they are all time, lifetime favorite. So what is
your who is your favorite artist of all time? Artist
of any kind in any format? Oh man, Oh my gosh. Okay, honestly,
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I think overall with I know the most songs by
this artist and tried to sing like her my whole life,
so I would say Lee and Walmack. I think she
really shaped how I attempt to sing songs. Have you
met Leanne Yes? And she's sang at our album released
party for the first album and I nearly fainted like
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and she's so sweet, like so down to earth, and
I was just so star struck. I think she was
not expecting me to be that star struck. All right,
let's go with your favorite album. It doesn't have to
be a Lean Willmack record. But do you have a
favorite album that you go that's the one from my lifetime?
Oh my gosh, I'm I'm sorry to be stuck on Lean,
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but they call me crazy. Album by Lean Walmac is
my Well Okay, dang, it's so hard. Okay, I'm gonna
go with that one. Call me crazy Lean will Max?
All right? Let me switch it up. Non country favorite
artist right now, period lifetime? If did you get one?
Who is it? Oh? Oh? Really? Yes? Look at you?
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That's interesting? You know. Um, I'm astreading Fan two. I like,
you know, I think sometimes people hear otistreading and they'll
hear like hard to handle, which the Black Crows didn't go.
He did that before. The Black Crow has made it
a rocket. I mean, and he has. He has so
many songs that he's saying and like concert way back
in the day that other artists end up covering two
that you would really only know from them. But I'm
a big otish writing guy too. Let's see. How about
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your favorite record non country? Non country? Oh dang, that's
so hard? Uh non country? Good God, this is difficult.
I'm gonna go with. I mean, I'm just gonna go
with something that I love right now. Um, the Hairy
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Styles Fine Line record. It's good, it's I know, it's
really good. Yep. And I I am. I have to
say this because I'm an adult man. I am not
a big Hairy Styles guy. However, I'm a huge Harry
Styles guy now, dude, Okay, I'm so The first record
that he released I loved, and I was supposed to
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go with one of my girlfriends to the rhyme and
to go see him, and she had to back out
because she got another tour, and so I was like, Jonah,
you got to come to this continent. He's like, oh no,
I'm not gonna go see freaking Harry Styles. And he's
a little girls screaming all this, and I was like, no,
you have to, like, I can't go by myself. So
he ended up going. And Jonah is a die hard
Harry Styles stand now and he said the same thing
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you did. He was like, I was not a Hairy
Styles guy. And now, especially by record two, he is
totally in and he's such a rock star, Like if
you've seen him live, it is insane. He just made
timeless music on his newest record, exactly exactly and never
it does not fear like I mean, it just embodies
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a whole entire millennium. I feel like, yeah, it's good man,
I'm with you on that our favorite. If you get
one meal, favorite meal, you're celebrating your favorite meal as
what I'm gonna say, habachi, which is a little ratchet
but favorite. Is there a habachi place that you go
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to in town if it's like your your birthday or
you're celebrating something, Yes, but it's nasty. It's called minty.
I don't mean to bast them, but it's like it's
like raunchy, Like it's not it's like fat me. It's
not like Benny Hannah where it's like, you know, that's
I guess that's not very fancy either. But hey, listen,
when I was a kid, we couldn't afford that we
go to Benny hannah like once a year if church
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youth group had saved definite enough money to send us.
Because I yet, you know, we got to go to
Benny Hannah's once a year with my family, and it
was only for a birthday. That was that was the occasion.
Well well, well, I want to make a couple of
observations about the record because I've spent some time because
I I think you guys are great. I love you guys.
Sound I'm fans obviously, I'm a fan of obviously, I
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think because I I do a lot of pitch meetings
for TV shows because I've been creating some TV shows
and being awesome shows, and they always ask what is
the show like? And and for a long time I thought,
I don't want to compare it to anything else, but
I think compare it to something that is great. Now
after doing this for a while, it's very complimentary. And
I was listening to you guys, and if someone asked
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me the question what is it like, this is what
I would say. I would say, it's like a little
more emotional, slightly more vocal powered the records. Yes, that's
what I would say. That That's why I would say.
I would if you like the record the re records,
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you're gonna love this. It's a little newer meaning the
texture that the production. But and there's a I think
the vocals are a little more pure. But I think
there's a lot of the records there. And I don't
know if that is a compliment to you or not,
but to me, that's a compliment. And I was bummed
out whenever they stopped making music because I love the
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blend of their voices and I loved how their audio
engineer always um, he like rode the harmony with the
lead vocal really high to where it almost sounded like
two lead vocals, just different notes. And that's kind of
what we went for with this record, like we I
think if you go back to the first record, you'll see,
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like Ty's vocal isn't as loud as it is on this,
And I feel like we really sound like a harmony band,
Like we really, you know, because we weren't rushed, and
we weren't you know, eighteen years old and had no
idea what we were doing at this time. You know,
we were kind of seasons, you know, in the business
after six years, and we're like, this is how we
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wanted to sound. That's a huge compliment. I'm so glad. Well,
I didn't read that any note that that you got.
Did you ever say that anywhere that there was you
love the records, records, last album or anything, because that
definitely wasn't derivative of anything I read. No, I I've
never liked. I mean, I used to play lead the
pieces all the freaking time, and I just loved there.
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That whole entire album was so solid. But no, I
don't think anyone has been. I'm proud. I'm proud of
my analogy. Then yes, and then you should. Maddie says,
well that you know, the the third engineer who was
working in Section C of the building that day had
a microphone. It was a dB doubled X and I'm like,
how did you even know this? So well, listen, I
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hope everybody checks it out. I'm I'm proud that you
guys have new music. I love that you went ahead
and put it out anyway, because again, if you don't
put it out now, who knows, It's like how long
they're gonna hold you? And so well, you know, I'm
a huge fan of of you guys, a huge fan
of you. I think you're so funny, and I appreciate
you spending time and congratulations on on life and music
and everything. Hey back at you. I'm so happy for
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you and and I'm just you know, excited to see
your face everywhere and always rooting for you, and we're
just grateful that you've always been so kind to us
and supportive. And thanks for listening to the new album
because I value your opinion. I like your I like
your musical like descriptions, I am intrigued by the way
that you describe music and stuff. So I love that
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you dug into all the songs and the record. That's
very nice. Okay, you go back to living your life
in quarantine and fix your phone on the time zone.
Other than that, we're square here. I'll talk to you soon,
all right, all right, by Maddie. We're about to talk
to Jen Wayne from Runaway June who has corona. Here
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is a clip of Runaway June's biggest song by my
Own Drinks. And I saw online that she has coronavirus.
I texted her and she's on Now. How are you feeling?
Oh I feel fine now, thank god. So when did
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you start to think that you were sick? So? I, um,
March one, which was my mom's birthday. The day before
my birthday, I woke up and I had kind of
like a little dry cough. It wasn't bad at all,
so I really didn't think anything of it. But I
had really bad body aches, and so oh maybe I
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just want to you know, pushed it too hard on
my run and it was really windy the day before.
I just kind of shrugged it off. Well. The next day,
the body aches were just severe, like I was just crippled.
It felt like someone was literally crushing my back together.
And so that's when I was like, Okay, this wasn't normal.
But I never had a fever, my cough didn't get worse.
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It was just kind of just minimal. And so of
course I'm like looking up every kind of coronavirus symptom,
coronavirus symtom, blah blah blah. And I had only been
to the grocery store, so I just couldn't imagine that
I would have gotten it. You know, I've been secluded
at home. You got it at the grocery store. You think, well,
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it's the only place I've been other than CBS, and um,
they were only allowing twenty people in at a time
at the grocery store, and so there was like a
line outside that you had to wait to get in,
and there was a girl in front of me coffee
and I remember just thinking like, oh, this is how
I'm gonna get coronavirus, and then obviously just a joke
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in my mind. And then four days later was when
I got the symptoms. And I've been with my mom
the entire time i've been here, and that was the
only time my mom didn't go with me to the store.
So and it was really windy that day, so I'm
just the only thing I can think of that the
girls coughing and the wind was blowing right at me
and I was standing behind her. Are you West Coast now? Yeah,
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I'm in Malibu with my parents. Um, I've been here
the whole time. Has they been able to got both
of them didn't get it. They both got tested and
um it's been you know, three weeks now, so we're
in the clear. But it's just so scary. I was
just freaked out about my parents getting it. Did they
take care of you and still not get it? Or
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did they just go, oh, you go to that room,
we'll leafed out the door. Well, I didn't even know
I had it because I didn't have a fever and
I didn't have you know, the traditional symptoms. But by
the third day it lasted five days really of me
being sick, and by the third day of like my
eight body aches not going away. Um, that's when I
was like, Okay, something is really wrong with me. And
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I was so fatigued I couldn't get out of bed,
like I couldn't go get something in the kitchen without
feeling exhausted and having to sleep when I got back
to the room. So that's when I just started self
isolating just to be safe, because I talked to my
doctor and they said, well, right now, you know, the
test are limited, so if you don't have a fever
shortness of breath, just act as if you have it.
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So I just stayed in the back room and my
parents were like, oh, come on, you don't have it.
You know. They wanted me to come to the dinner
table for dinner. I'm like, you guys know something is
really wrong with me. And so I just stayed back there.
And then I was just reading on all the websites
that said wait seventy two hours from your last symptom
before you, you know, stop self isolating. So I just
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stayed in my room that whole time him um. And
then I felt better and I thought, okay, well I
just had some crazy whatever flu or whatever I had.
And then I lost my sense of smell and that's
when I was like, oh geez, that is what made
me think, Okay, I freaking had this thing. And so
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I waited in line. I drove. There was one place
in in l A doing the antibody test, and um,
I drove down there it's like an hour and a
half from my parents, and they turned me away because
there were too many cars, And so I went back
the next day because I just had this weird feeling
like I know I had it. I lost my sense
of smell. I never had a head at a fever,
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but all the other symptoms were coronavirus symptoms. So I
waited in line for four hours to get the antibody tests,
and sure enough, it came back positive. And I was
just really in shock, and then of course really worried
about my parents and you know, going through the timeline
of oh my god, am I still contagious or they
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need to get tested, and it was just it was
a emotional thing. Wow, when you saw the test result,
it said you have corona and obviously you're feeling better,
but you still see it on paper. I mean, is
that like, Wow, I can't believe that I have the
thing I've been seeing on TV that everybody's been sick on. Yes,
I mean it was it was. I knew I had
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a feeling that I had it, but it was still
a shock to see it. And then you know, it's
this weird feeling of feeling like kind of like a leoper,
Like I'm like, Okay, I have to tell my parents,
but I don't want to tell anyone else. Can I
walk in the neighborhood? Can I do this? And I mean,
I just it's this weird feeling of oh, now you're
that girl with the virus or the disease. UM so
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that I think the emotional part of just the stigma
of it, I think was really um difficult for me.
And then I went back and self isolated even longer.
They said, wait seven days before you um, seven days
with no symptoms before you really can start going back
out again. So I just was wanting to be safe
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rather than sorry. You know, Holy crap, I did see
on your Instagram you said the I've been struggling with
whether or not to share. And then you had a
sign of three things you're grateful for. The First one
said your parents not getting the virus, which is crazy
they didn't get it, especially because you didn't know you
had it. That's that's crazy, I know. The second says
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my body, which I have so harshly judged in the past,
fought it off and kept me healthy. Talk about that
for a second. Well, that was just kind of a
moment of um, real gratitude for you know, me being
healthy and my body, which of course, UM like worried
about all the time and being on stage if you
feel like you're overweight or I don't know, just I
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pick apart my body every single day of my life.
So um, it was just this moment of Wow, my
body is what got me through this thing. And I
didn't have a severe case like so many other people,
so it just kind of was it brought me in check,
you know, really be thankful that I'm that I'm healthy
and that I don't have to worry about things that
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some people that aren't healthy worry about. You know, my
body is I'm able to walk and fight off the coronavirus.
So I just felt grateful. Dang dang, dang, dang. That's crazy.
And right now, do do you feel all the way
back to normal? Yeah, it's been about um a week
of feeling all the way back to normal. I felt fine,
but I just wasn't a dent. I just felt tired, um,
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and I did have like a pressure on my chest
when it wasn't I didn't have a difficulty breathing, but
I could just still feel it. So I just took
it easy and um when I when I thought that
something was wrong, and of course I'm looking up coronavirus
symptoms and everything. I told a few people family and doctors,
and they said, load up on vitamin C, vitamin D three,
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show the mushrooms and zinc. And so that's why, really,
that's why I wanted to share, because I of all
the websites I was looking at, all it had with
information on what to do if you have it as
far as isolating, but it really didn't say anything you
know what to do to take care of yourself other
than if you're feeling chest. I mean, if you're feeling
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struggling of breathing, then go to the hospital. So I
don't know if that's what got me better. I just
felt like that was something I needed to share because
there's it's different for everyone. There's no proof of what
works and what doesn't. But that seemed to help me.
So I just thought if I could help one person,
and also just your immunity, those vitamins are good in general,
(55:42):
even if you don't have it, you know to just
stay stay strong and keep your immunity built when you
did the test, was it blood or they stick the
thing in your nose? I did the blood, so I
went and waited to do that anibody test and it
said it came back positive, and it said that I
was in the process of creating them. I guess there's
(56:03):
two antibodies that you need. One's um I g M
and one's I g G. And I had the I
g M, which means my body was still in the
process of fighting it off. So I technically still had
the virus even though I didn't have symptoms anymore. So
then they recommended that I do the swab um for
the you know CDC to count it. So I did
(56:24):
that too, and that came back positive, of course, because
I had it UM. So I am now waiting to
do my second antibody test so that I can donate
blood and plasma, because that's definitely something I really want
to do. When do you find out if you're all
clear Tuesday? You're nervous about that or no? Um no,
(56:48):
because I know I'm fine. If the virus is still
in me, it just means I have to wait longer.
But I know I've I'm on the it's been over
two weeks of no symptoms. I'm on the I'm on
the mend. I just really I've been hearing stories about
like there's a firefighter and Torrents right now struggling with
his life and they're begging for plasma. And I'm like,
(57:08):
I'm here, I'm ready. I called the fire department, I
emailed them, I you know, sent my stuff to Red Cross.
So I'm just I want to I want it to
be over with so I can help people. Dang, well,
I'm glad you're healthy. As soon as I heard I
text you, I was like, holy crap, howd are you feeling?
Because I assumed you were feeling better if you announced it. Yeah,
(57:30):
And I wanted to wait and make sure that both
my parents didn't have it, and that we waited the
amount of time where you know, it was most likely
that it was I was not contagious. Um. I was laughing, no, Bobby,
because I really did think about you. I'm like, well,
Bobby's just been washing his hands and wearing masks before
anyone else. You're on top of You're on top of
(57:50):
the curb here. Well, I was trying I listen. I
was judged pretty harshly. When I'm the guy with the
mask on the airplane pre Corona, people were like, what's
up with that? Weird though, now I'm just one of
the guys. Well, I'm glad you're laughing, and I'm glad
that you're feeling a bit better. I hope your test
comes back that you're able to donate, and it's a
selfless way to think. And I also thought your Instagram
message of the things you were thankful for was um
(58:12):
was it was a really nice thing to see. Um.
So glad you're healthy, Jim, That's what it is. Well,
thank you. Will you guys stay healthy and safe out
there too, and I can be everyone's safe grocery shop
or now. Yeah, you're invincible now yeah, okay, golden ticket. Now, well,
talk to you soon and hopefully I'll see relatively soon. Okay, okay, alright,
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bye Jim, Bye,
Welcome to episode to forty one. Coming up, we'll talk
to Maddie from Maddie and Ta. She talks about if
she's ever done interview without Tay. They're not together, and
I don't want to cross a bunch of phone lines,
So we got Maddie coming up. She's just a great
interview as a lover, as a person, she just is
a delight. Actually, since we finished the interview, cause you're
(00:24):
here in a minute, I texted her management and I
was like, a plus, Like as far as interviews and
people go, a plus. She does. The thing that startles
me a little bit, and it is so good for
an interview is that she asked questions back. My job
as an interviewer is to make it sound like we're
just talking. There's actually a lot more work going into
(00:46):
it than than you would think done by Mike and myself.
There's preparation, and there's listening, and there's you know, having
the confidence to know that doesn't matter where they go,
you're fine with another question. I don't even look at
questions for the most part. I'm listening and going. But
there's all this. But then when she goes, oh, let
me ask you this you're like, you're you're kind of
thrown off because it's it makes it so good. She's
(01:08):
so present to go. You know, I'm also curious about
you now. I think she probably genuinely is. But even
if she wasn't, such a great tactic to use while
being interviewed. I do it a lot of my interviews
because I'm the best interviewee because I interview all the time,
and I know what people want when they're interviewed. So
(01:28):
I'm I'm great at being interviewed because I just interviewed
people all the time. So you get me on, you're
gonna have to ask me like one question. I'm gonna
give you a big, old long, excited or emotional with
questions at the end. So she's great. I can't say
enough about it. So Maddie from Maddie and Tay, they
got a new record that's coming up in a second. Also,
Jen Wayne who has coronavirus. Jenn Is from run Away
(01:52):
June Freaking Guy has corona. I just saw it on
I know Jen pretty well and I didn't know until
she posted it. I think you just that you're like,
jin White has corona, and I was like, so we'll
talk to her coming up in a second. So I
like today's show. Let's kind of looking at some headlines
here because you know, concerts, who knows, there'll probably some
(02:15):
but who knows this year, But even Facebook is canceling
any company event with over fifty people until June. It's
just so many people are gonna do it early that
it's gonna make those who don't look like they don't
care as much about people. Does that make sense? Yeah?
I get Netflix stock gets a record high, is now
worth more than Disney. Wow, that's nutty, that's crazy. So
(02:40):
just a couple of stories here, gonna get Eddie on.
I guess we just finished talking with Eddie, but now
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(03:02):
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to Eddie Eddie's on Hey, by the way, you just
(03:23):
were looking at my Instagram story a few minutes ago.
Why did you stop after the picture of the guy
and the girl? Yeah, because you didn't keep going. Do
you know what instant? Nope, what was the last one
you saw? Um? No, that was my girlfriend stretching me
before the peloton, and that wasn't the last one. Yeah,
(03:45):
that's what I saw, the stretch. Well, it's always annoying
when someone goes through only some of your Instagram stories
and they got bored with some of them. What I do,
just to be a good person is if I'm bored,
I just go ahead and knock out, knock them all
out so they don't see. I didn't look at all
of them. Yeah, yeah, even I'm not looking. I wanted
to feel like I was consuming everything they put out there,
(04:06):
so well that that did not happen with me. I
watched all years and then I went on to the
next I don't know. Did you watch this episode of
Easy Trivia? I did well. I watched the start of it.
I didn't finish it. I saw de Marcus wears on it,
which is awesome. Yeah, it's a good episode. De Marcus
is on it, and I make him do something with
his muscles because I'm not gonna say, I'm not gonna
run it. But Sharna is on it, uh, the the
(04:27):
Center for the Titans, Ben Jones is on it. Uh
and John Party's on it. So yeah, yeah you should.
You gotta be on it in the next couple of weeks. Yes, man,
I'm waiting for my invitation. I'm ready, all right. New
music out this week, Brett Eldredge dropped his first new
song in two years. Here is Gabrielle Where you are
(04:49):
wi Ye. I wonder what that song because the girl
that wrote this song about is not named Gabrielle. Brett
and I are friends, and I know that the girl
that he wrote about is not named Gabrielle. I wonder
if he had the rhyme I wish you well, And
(05:09):
then it's like, what's the girl's name? We can should
put it here to the rhymes with wish you will
because it's kind of a weird name to pick if
it's not the girl's name. Right. Is unique because if
you're sitting around writing a song about a girl and
you're like, well, I can't use the real name, what
name will we use? It's like not Bertha or Gabrielle
(05:29):
or you would pick like a normal name, right, So
you think wish you Well came first and they're like,
we need a name to rhyme back. I don't know
for sure, but it's just it's a it's a tough
name to kind of pull out of the air, Gabrielle.
That's why I do like the song. And Brett's going
a hold different way with his music a little bit
you can't fully tell yet with just that song, but
(05:51):
he's did a whole shake up, you know, with management
with it's so you know, it's kind of doing a
little bit mature, you know, Brett Eldridge as an adult
type thing that I think people are gonna like. So
his first new song on in two years, Morgan Wallen
shared he's dropping a new album this year, and today
he shared the single more than My Hometown and here
(06:11):
is a clip of that. I love more than more
than son and more so I love What do you
(06:32):
think about Morgan Wallon? I love it. I love Morgan Wallen,
and I hope that he continues to put out hits
for a long time because there's something about his music
that's just so simple. It's like it's that truly like
and it could be his look and everything, you know,
cut off leaves, mullet and all that. It almost has
just a feel of this like a real redneck country dude. Literally,
(06:52):
we're just writing a song by himself. I don't know
that's the case, but that's what it feels like every
single time. Here's a unique texture in his voice when
he sings in the room with you too. You know,
he's performed on our show and he sings and he
sounds as good in person as he does live, and
you don't hear him to go wow, that's a big
vocal guy. But he sounds as good in person as
(07:12):
he does on a record. And there's just something about
his vocal tone that is different when he sings. And
I wasn't a big Morgan wall And fan with the
first couple of songs because they sounded like all that
broad country stuff that was coming out for a long time,
but I tell you I kind of love him now,
and that the one that really pushed it over for
me was Chasing You. That's such a jam that it
(07:36):
just converted me to listen to some of his other
songs and want radio songs, and I was like, oh,
I do really like this guy. They just picked those
songs because they were super radio friendly, So yeah, I
like that guy a lot. Luke Combs shared a brand
new song he wrote this week about the current times
we're going through, and he just put it off on YouTube.
Here is six ft apart. Miss My mom My, miss rude,
(08:00):
I miss mapping, give it shaking. Hey, it's a mystery
as boot just tell miss things, Suby crabs and buby shoots.
There will be let after done. We are six ft there.
(08:30):
Crazy that he can write a song that isn't a
total cornball song about coronavirus. Yeah it is. It's surprising
he's because you gotta imagine everyone trying to do it
and being like in the middle of it going no
way then way too dumb. Because even when I saw
the title six ft Apart, I was like, oh, man,
like I trust Luke to write good stuff. Luke Hombs
because he just does, and I was like, if there's
(08:51):
no way, and then he does, and You're like, holy crap,
how does he keep doing that? Do you think bones?
Do you think that there's gonna be like some kind
of um explosion of like a bunch of Corona theme songs,
like about quarantine songs? Oh no, I don't zero. I
mean there may be songs about isolation, there may be something,
(09:12):
but I don't know that there's gonna be a whole
playlist that's gonna be made of all the quarantine jams
from because I was talking to someone about it, you know,
like one of the neighbors that was walking by works
for a record label, and he said that a lot
of artists are just trying to see if they can
record full albums in their houses with their homes tool
(09:32):
because a lot of artists have home studios. It's like
it's gonna sound so different if they do, Like if
we do this for you know, for a while, these
albums are gonna be made in people's houses, and maybe
it will be that coronavirus sound, you know, like that
low fi a sound I thought you were talking about.
All the songs is gonna be about coronavirus. Well both
remember both, okay um. I definitely think there could be
(09:55):
some EPs come out of this that have a slightly
different texture, but especially if it's a long lockdown. But
I don't think it's gonna be another six months, you know,
to where people can't get to a studio. I do
think it'll be a long time before they can have concerts.
But I think there's something to that. Or you may
have people putting out you know, the the the the
(10:18):
quarantine session or something like that that's a few tracks
made from their house. I do think you're onto something there.
I don't think you're gonna have a bunch of quarantine
songs or the COVID blues or the sanitizer rises. Yeah,
I was, and you'll hear this later in the show
if you're listening right now. But I was talking to
(10:39):
Maddie and I mentioned about Taylor Swept saying she's doing
no concerts in just based on what you know right now.
When do you think they'll be concerts again? Oh, not
until next year, I mean or late late this year.
I mean maybe like November December. But then I would
think it's excar to be safe. I mean do you
feel like what this is what I feel like with
(11:00):
Taylor doing it and saying that it's it's kind of
setting the precedent of if the big ones don't do it,
nobody else should do. Yeah. Is it would be tough
to get someone like a Luke Combs or someone like
a Luke Brian or an al Dean to takety thousand people,
(11:25):
ten thousand, whatever the number is, lady enveloped and make
them all get in a room together. You know, I
could see if you were going to do a small
show for like twenty people. I don't know. I just
think it's it's tough right now, you don't want to
be the first one to do it. What about you?
As like, if you just go into a concert, when
would be the first time you would want to go
to I'm not going to be safe? Yeah, yeah, once
(11:46):
the vaccine comes out. Yeah yeah, I mean I but again,
I think I'm a little more germaphobi than most people,
and I'm also around a lot more music, so it's
not like a concert is as big a deal to me.
So I think I'm a little different than than most folks.
But I'm not going Mike, would you go to one
(12:06):
of your punk shows with amsh No, I don't feel
safe it. Yeah, yeah, it could be a while. I'm
gonna need the vaccine probably for me to roll into
somewhere and do my thing, because when I go to shows,
I spit on everyone. It's kind of my thing. The
shows are so sweaty and yeah, yeah, like I thought
it right. Yeah. Kept More released a new song called
South Paul. Here's this song A telling me the gun
(12:32):
slinging sound all time a wrong because you never saw
me coming. I could be dangerous. I could be famous
on my name all of the fables saying I'm won Eddie.
What is What's you and Kip's relationship? I mean, have
a relationship with Kip too, but I wonder what is
your relationship with Kip? About? Ours is just mainly, you know,
(12:54):
we're both San Antonio's first fand so when basketball was long,
we would, you know, we would at each other about
basketball and just kind of keep up with different things
like the team got a trade or they traded two
players or whatever they suck like lately it's being like god, man, like,
how are you doing without sports? Kind of thing, But
it's just keeping up. He's really good at just keeping
(13:15):
in touch and just seeing how we're doing. See how's
the family, How's how's how's the show doing? And all that. Yeah,
he is actually text he's really good about keeping in touch,
keeping my relationship. Again, I would say we're closer than
am with a lot of artists, but only because we
really did not like each other and really got into
a big fight early on, not physical, but we were
(13:38):
just over it with each other. But what happened was
us pushing so far away made us go, well, we
should see if we really hate each other or if
there was just a missing like a fundamental misunderstanding. And
we got together and there was. And now I mean,
we've spent a good amount of time together and he
you know, he's a different kind of guy where he
likes to rock climb and live in nature and I
(13:59):
like WiFi and you know, NBA two K twenty. But
I do, like, really enjoy that guy and appreciate how
he looks at our I don't look out it the
same way, but I think us really getting into it
early in a negative way has made the positive so
much more because we had never even tried it has
just been too passing creators using each other for you know,
(14:23):
him for interviews or but but yeah, it keeps a
good dude. Yeah, and to him, his art's very important,
you know, Like, I don't think there's a song that
he puts out where he doesn't feel like it means
everything to him. So if you ever have read a
parody like what we did to one of his songs,
it may not be received. Blow. Yeah, you know. And
it was wet a parody. Then we tried to get
(14:45):
into play it and then I just roasted him for
weeks on the air about it. It just it wasn't
me just one time being ado. She was ultimate multiple times.
And Kevin calls me one day and goes, hey, like
we should talk and see what's up. And we met
for breakfast one day and every since then it's like, oh,
I get it, I get it. We don't have to
agree on stuff to actually respect and like each other. Um.
(15:05):
But yes, very keeps a very passionate guy, for sure.
I love him. Though. Lady Abelleum released a song from
song Land called Champagne Night Reason Don't Dazzles to get in.
(15:29):
I'm kind of crystal. Hey, I don't, Oh god, I
want to hear the another pours. I've never watched this
a full episode of this show, have you, Eddie? I have?
I like it? I like you, I think. I mean,
(15:51):
I've written songs, you know, so I'm kind of like
a songwriter. So I understand that it doesn't happen as
fast as it does on the show, but because the
show really makes it seem like they spit out the
idea fast and it it's done in ten minutes, and
then they record it and that process obviously takes longer
than that. But it's interesting. Man, It's an interesting show
to just kind of see someone with an idea and
(16:11):
then three really strong songwriters try to make something of it.
My question is, with Lady and Bell releasing the song,
did they write it or they just the people that
they go, Hey, we wrote it it one you sing it.
I don't know about I don't know this case exactly,
but usually what happens is there's a songwriter who has
a song already and here's the idea, and he presents
it to the three people on the show and then
(16:35):
they and then they get they get teamed up with
one of those writers, and then they that writer perfects
the song and if it gets chosen, then the artist
will record it. Does the artist ever get it on
the and Mike, you've watched you know, I've never seen it. Okay,
all right, see if they wrote that will you Champagne Night?
Because I know I don't think Old Domini wrote the song.
They did, and they always write their songs, but I
(16:55):
think for that show, they there's a you know, they'll
allow that to happen and an artist. Mike's gonna look
that up now? They didn't They did from the show
and then produced by Shane mcinally cool. Brad Paisley has
a song called No I and Beer calls together to
be It's all so clear treaking out a beer team
(17:18):
Ever there is no. Kenny Chesney has a new song
called Guys Named Captains, Named Captain Haters, Their Lovers, Living
Love Love largely undercover, nove Bars and Cartons, Waitresses and
(17:41):
tall Tones, Jason the Sun, Run Aground the Full sil
Captain Outrageous and Captain Tony. What do we think that
songs about? Does he say? Captain French? I'm waiting for it.
What their captains? And there could be a name checked
(18:03):
Captain Cook? Yeah, Yeah, I like the tone of that song.
I guess need to hear more. Finally, this is pretty cool.
Catalact three released the post Malone song Circle did the
cover of it. Here you go. We do this every time.
She's a free can run away, but we're running shirt,
(18:30):
run away, run Away. Have you heard that one? Yeah?
I heard it. I was wondering, dude, I heard it, Joe.
I wonder what Mike thought about it. I love it.
Jared's voice sounds awesome. It sounds good on it has
that gravelly kind of voice like post Malone. And they
(18:50):
recorded that in Quarantine because that Jared on the last
episode and he was like, we record something real cool,
you're gonna like it, and so yeah, that was it.
You can check out that episode if you're listening to
more new music. No clips on these Minke I got
them okay quickly. Jane Kramer Untouchable made, who can stand Breaking?
(19:11):
Sarah Evans hard to say. I'm sorry, old, it's what's
a cover? Yeah? I just want you to know that
Chicago is that Chicago guest on that right up? Been
through it in Chicago in Chico. Nice job, Eddie, m
(19:37):
miss you. That's a good one though. Mark Chestnut I
found another you somebody you know it's funny about Mark Chestnut?
Is we in our mind these artists don't get older.
We just know them as they look when we were kids.
(19:58):
And if you don't go look them up, you don't
know they've out older. And Mark Chestnut was playing our show.
Remember this, Eddie, this is so embarrassing. And Eddie and
I were big Mark Chestnut fans back in the day.
I can't say that I know much of his new
music in the past ten years or so, but we
were big, big Nut fans in the nineties. And he
was coming in and we were pumped, and his sound
(20:18):
guy comes in and start setting stuff up and he's like, hey,
where do I play? And I thought it was a
sound guy guitar guy. We're like, hey, you'll be right there,
and he was like, all right, what time we go on?
I was like yeah, but like three minutes and we
kept waiting for Mark Chestnut to walk in. It turns
out it was Mark Chestnut and that the older sound
guy that was that was Mark Chestnut. And then yes,
it was a whole thing he did how a cowboy
(20:40):
had on. It was weird. It wasn't It didn't look
like him at all, and he had hit on a
shirt that said like blink one day to two rocks
or something. It was just it was just weird. Yeah, yeah,
yeah yeah. Um let's see High Valley Rivers still running.
Here's the clipt worried about game rust and only has
(21:00):
a song called Brave and it didn't give up. Just dark.
This is my kind of jam right here. My girlfriend
thinks it's weird because I listened to all sad songs
all the time. It doesn't matter what mood I'm in.
I needed to be sad. It just needs to be
sad and slow, and the less instruments the better. I think.
(21:20):
I like a song with no instruments and very little voice,
just a light hum. That's all I could take. But
this is like, this is it for me? I like
this all right. Kelly Clarkson put out a new song
called I Dare You Oh, and then finally Angels and Airwaves.
(21:44):
All that's left is love. Ah, there you go. Uh
what are you guys doing now at the house, Eddie? Well,
(22:06):
right now, we were just cut trying to cut everybody's hair,
and it's it's impossible with the nightmare right now? Are
you cutting it? Was your wife. Well, I started to
cut and then then Mike d called me, so then
I had to had to hand the clippers over. But basically,
I'm just gonna give him all the Sam Hunt cut
because that's the easiest where you just shaved the sides
in the back and then just left the top of
the way of what what what would just like a
(22:30):
bowl cut? Well yeah, but if you do the fake
line or whatever, it kind of looks like Sam Hunt.
So I'm I'm calling it that and they're cool with that.
All right. Well, I think that's all we're gonna do
because I got a couple interviews. I'm gonna hop over
to um everything else. Good, everything's good, man, we're here.
We're just staying safe. Yeah, Eddie came over to the
house and brought something over. Yes, I don't know why
(22:51):
it was coming to the house. He pulls up in
his jeep. Everyone's like, why is somebody outside our house?
It was Eddie. It's like, what's funny? Is like, you know,
I guess now you don't really get any guests, so
when one shows up, the door was wide open. It's
you your girlfriend. The dog runs out. Yeah. We're all like, yeah,
all right, um, get back to cutting here. Thanks for
Oh by the way, check out Eddie's Sports showed. You
talk about that for a second. Yeah, we did the
(23:12):
Sore Losers podcast. It's me Raimundo and lunch Box and uh,
we just talked about guy stuff. Right now, we're finishing
off a Sore Losers coin Flip Madness and since we
didn't have March Madness the basketball tournament, we're just flipping
coins and we made our own bracket. Explain that to me.
Do you just flip a coin and that's the winner? Yeah,
So it's just like the March Madness tournament, except there
(23:33):
aren't any games. So the game is a coin flip.
Do you do want to show? No? No, no, no.
We did it just kind of like the tournament. Did
we did? You know? Eight the first day and then
eighth the next day? And right now we're at the
final four and the championship is Monday and it's huge.
Is Arkansas gonna win it all this year? And the
coin you could could you give them a like an
at large? I hate to break it to you, but
(23:56):
Arkansas was in the brackets because hey, phones they were
of the first round. You know, we've never been good
coin flips. Alright, check out the Sore Losers podcast. I'd
appreciate it. Back to haircuts, talk to you soon, all right, Addie,
(24:16):
what's happening? Hey, I'm so sorry I called my I
have the wrong time zone and my freaking calendar like
an idiot. Where are you? I'm in Nashville. But for
some reason my like you know, I cont on. I
think my phone because I've been in so many time
zones the past years, it just gets whacked out and
sometimes it does not calculate the correct Well, I wouldn't
(24:40):
have texted you, but I figure we're all in some
sort of weird quarantine and something had to have gone
wrong because nobody really late anymore. We're all just kind
of looking at our clocks, going, well, I wonder what
time I do something next? I know, right, Hey, I
had so much fun on trivia. I was really disappointed
that I didn't get further. But that is such a
cool thing that you came up with. I love it.
(25:01):
Thanks a lot. How you How are you? By the way,
Are you good? I am good. We I mean, it's
been kind of crazy the past two weeks, crazier than
I expected. With the album release and everything. But I've
been good. That's the album has been my like silver
lining with all this craziness. How about yourself? Yeah good.
I mean I'm lucky where I have pretty much everything
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at my house that I need to work, Like, I
have a radio studio. American Idol just sent me about
twenty boxes to set up a TV studio, so in
a in a weird way like, I'm okay, but I
have nothing new. You guys just put out your first
record in five years, which is which is crazy that
it's been that long. Huh. I know, well because whenever
we came on your podcast, what was that like three
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years ago? Maybe two years ago. I don't know. My
timelines are jacked up, but we were still like in
those beginning stages with Universal, with the new record label.
How has that all been, because you've been there for
a couple of years, but you kind of went through
some changes for a minute. Yeah, the new company just Universal. Overall,
we've had the best experience, and I think we we
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got to make the album that we loved because we
finally felt this new sense of creative freedom. Like we
went over there and they loved what we were writing,
and I remember Stephanie, right, our head of A and
R was like, Hey, go make an album that you love,
take the producers that you want, take the songs that
you love, and just do it. And and that's not
really what the first process was like. So it was
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really really special and it kind of just taught us
how to trust our gut creatively and kind of follow
our own intuition. Um, and that's kind of how the
album came to be. I'm gonna play a few clips
from the record, so hank tie for a second that
the new album is called The Way It Feels. Here
is die from a Broken Heart. Here is a song
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called Everywhere I'm Going It's yeah. And here's one more.
This is one heart to another more next Love. You know,
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I was listening to the record the week it came
out because full disclosure, Maddie and Tay and myself we
have the same uh publicist, and so she was more
stressed about you because this is when we didn't know
what was happening with Corona. Really, it was so new.
They were just starting to shut stuff down. You guys
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had a bunch a bunch of album promotion planned and
I'll tell you and it's always best to hear from
somebody else. She was so concerned and was so stressed
about you guys, like just true love and worry that
she wasn't gonna be able to get you guys out
a where. So I know, and they did a great job,
Like I you know, I think that they did the
best that they could. And you know, we we kind
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of just all huddled up as a team and we're like,
look everyone like we had our social media team, are publicists,
are labeled everyone. We kind of just all put our
heads together the past you know, two months really since
the beginning of March, and we're just like, okay, we're
gonna do this and this, and planned a whole bunch
of stuff. So we kind of just are trying to
roll with the punches as as as possible. Did you
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ever think about not putting the record out? Was that
ever a conversation? Dude? There was no way in heck
that we weren't putting that album after how long we
had waited. I was like, you know what, I'm sorry.
I know there's this horrible pandemic going on, but you
can still release music. It is sanitary to do so.
And I was not backing down and no one, there
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was no one on our team that was like, hey,
maybe we should push this back because we were all
feeling that same way, like, you know what, We've had
so much adversity hit to make this album, and of
course there's a global pandemic the minute that we decided
to release it. But um, I'm so glad that we
released it too, because I think it's I think it's
kind of bringing some joy and some light to people's
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lives right now. You guys were gonna hop on the
tourist in This Town tour and would like every other tour.
It's done for now. No new dates have been announced yet.
I saw today the Taylor Swift that she's doing no shows,
like it'll be before she does anything. I just wonder
where your head is at with as far as live
shows and kind of what's being said about when you
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may be able to play again, Like what are they
saying to you guys? We're going day by day. We
all we know is we are planning, Like the plan
right now is to go out with Lady A and
July and then reschedule tours in this town for this fall.
But I will say, like it is stressful like the
possibility of not getting to tour because you know, I mean,
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you know, to being on the road. It's like you
employ a lot of people, and a lot of people
depend on you to feed their families and to pay
their bills, and so as a businesswoman, it's a really
like sad time, you know, I want, I want. You know,
a lot of our employees depend on our touring income
to pay their bills, and so that's that's probably been
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the thing that's the hardest and that's like the worst
like stress on my heart right now. Yeah, that's an
interesting thing to bring up to because I think from
the surface, people look at you guys and go, well,
Maddie and Tay can't get paid if it on tour.
But in reality, Maddie and Take can't pay the people
that can't do their job at all exactly if if
they don't and that's your tour manager, that's your front
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of house person, that's your guitar player, like they're sitting
back waiting for you guys to kind of give them
direction because they have no work right now exactly exactly,
and so we're just we're having to get creative with
like how to take care of our people as best
as possible. But you know, if there's no money coming in,
you know, it's just it's stressful. And I know a
lot of like self employed UM businesses are feeling that
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same pressure. So I just I just feel for everyone that's,
you know, just wanting to do something, and you know,
just we're just kind of stuck right now. Well, you're married, now,
so have you taken officially your husband's name or no? Yes? So? Well, actually, uh,
interesting question. I so I finally went to the Social
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Security Office and did that whole thing, which I'll have
to tell you a hilarious story off the record about
the Social Security Office. Um but um, I went in
and I changed my last name to his. But as
I was in the middle of changing my name earlier
this year, this pandemic hit. And so I have a
passport that says my married name, but my driver's license
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as my maiden name. So I feel like I have
two identities. I hope that's not illegal. I don't don't know, Mike,
what do you think about that? Can you keep one
and change one? I think you have to change on
both because you have to change them both. I think
that will be the way to do it like you
run up a bunch of bills on one Yeah, because
you could be two people. Yeah, okay, And how guys
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you're gonna put in? How is it going? Like? How
is being quarantined? And because it's like, you know, you're
together all the time right now, so I assume you
guys are get along pretty well. Huh. Yeah. We we've
been together for ten years this May, it'll be ten years.
So we've worked out a lot of those like Newlywood
Kinks long ago. Um, so it's actually surprisingly being really
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really good for our marriage. I know you you're in
a new relationship. How is that? Is it kind of
nice to get to sit and just be like a
couple and not like having to get your schedules on
track and all that. Has that been kind of different
for you? Well, it's been interesting. We were whenever she
came and she wasn't planning to quarantine here, but she
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was here for a week. She lives she lives in California,
but she came here and she was then like scared
to go home because California was way earlier than this.
They were shutting everything down, and I was like, hey,
why don't you just stay here for a couple of weeks.
It's been six weeks now, but I think that it
has really progressed our relationship because we've been together almost
every minute of every day for six weeks. It's been great. So, man,
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you I think you found your person then, because I
feel like this is the test if you're in quarantine
with someone and you feel like your relationship is strengthening,
like you are. You are ready to rock and roll.
You're handling a global pandemic, that and being together all
the time. Dude, did you and your husband lived together
before you got married. Yes. And I know there's a
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lot of people that are like, that's so lovely, you
know whatever, but um, we you know, he moved in
Texas from our hometown to come to Nashville and just
financially just didn't make sense for us. And everybody is different.
But I will say living together before was really great
for our relationship. I don't want to go like, hey,
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everyone do that, but oh I do. Really I think
you should live together. No, I will say on the record,
I think you should live with your person before you
get married. Because so glad that we did, because you know,
there's a lot of people that are like, oh, your
newly was as their struggles. Are you fighting? I'm like, no,
because we experienced those newly wed things long before, you know,
five six years before we were married. So I guess
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when you guys got married, it was just I mean,
it was a big event, but you already were in
that phase of mentally in the relationship totally like we've
treated it like a marriage. Honestly, when we were about
I would say, maybe nineteen years old. That was when
you know, we were out of high school and you know,
Jonah was in college and I had moved, and we
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were like, Okay, we're gonna do this. We gotta be
all in, and that was when we really decided. Jonah
actually gave me a promise ring when we were teenagers, um,
which isn't really a common thing, but he basically was
just like, hey, basically, I'm gonna put you on late away,
you know, just kidding that sounds awful, but it was
really sweet. So is this the first interview that you've
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done in a while without Taylor? I feel like her
name is Taylor when I talked about her by herself,
but when she's with you, guys, it's is it the
first one you've done without her in a while. I
don't think I've ever done a interview without her. Yeah,
so it's kind of cool to get to like, you know,
each have our own like, you know, we're together all
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the time, so sometimes it is cool to get to
hear her talk about everything and then kind of get
to share my side. But you know, the Taylor Kay
thing is a big thing for her because people that
she has a relationship with, she likes to be called
Taylor because she feels like that's more of like the
human part, and Tay is more of the like work.
But everyone calls me Maddie, so I don't really get
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No one calls me Madison because that would just be
weird and I probably wouldn't respond. I don't think if
you have as Madison at all, Like if I saw
you out, I wouldn't call you Madison. But I see
her and I call her Taylor by herself because I
think Taylor is a little more like serious, and I
feel like she's a little more serious of a person
and I am so opposite, like Madison is, no, that's
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very serious, and I am not a serious. Humans as
an artist with all this time at home are you
finding that you have any other skills or any other
things that that time has allowed you to pursue a
little bit. Um, I have been practicing my espanyol. I
actually was fluent as a child growing up in Texas.
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Um like South Texas and so um, I've been practicing that.
I've actually gotten decent at cooking. My husband's way better.
But I made this shrimp scampy the other night and
it was like restaurant quality. Even my husband said, though, UM,
I don't know what other skills I would say, I've
been playing a lot more guitar. I feel like I'm
getting a little bit better at like a little more
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confident with my guitar playing because I got a little
lazy there on the road. What's happened? And was watching shows?
Anything good? Um? Okay, I don't know if you would
like what we've watched. Hey, what was that documentary called
where they buried all the drugs and dug them up? Oh?
Legends of Cocaine. This is terrible, um, but it's on Netflix.
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And basically there's like this wise tail that some dude
dug a bunch of cocaine into the ground, and um,
like told this story around a campfire and this dude
went to try to go dig it up in Puerto Rico.
It's like this super wacky story. It's it's Tiger king
esk in the way that it's so wacky. But I
really enjoyed that. Did you watch Tigers Everywhere with Rhese
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Witherspoon is awesome? Oh yeah, that's on? Who that's on?
Said the name of the show again? What is the
Little Fires Everywhere? Yeah? I just finished the book yesterday
and then now I'm watching the show and oh my gosh,
it's so good. Are you finding a little bit because
this is what I'm struggling with, is that you have
so much free time that you're getting nothing done. Um.
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I am a to do list girl. I really like
even if it's as simple as like doing the chores,
or if it's like finishing a demo, which has been
interesting trying to figure out how to do a demo
by myself. That's a whole other thing. But um, I've
been trying to get like maybe one or two things done.
But like the past two weeks have been so crazy
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with album released that I've been giving my weekends like
actually having a weekend. I bet it's weird for you
to to actually have a Saturday and a Sunday because
our Saturdays and Sundays are like Monday, Tuesday or something. Yeah,
it's weird for me. Well, the weirdness for me is
I'm not traveling at all because I was on the
road constantly right even, But but I do. I actually
leave my house for work one day a week because
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I go to the Grand ol Opry and I hosted
and produced the Operate TV show. I don't touch anybody,
but it's I mean, it's just a different normal, is
what it is. But there will be time where if
I don't make a schedule out. I make a schedule
almost every day and from when I wake up from
when I exercise, because that keeps me. Like you said,
you have to do list person. I need my stuff
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timed so I feel like my day is moving because
if I don't, I'll have so much free time and
I'll just decide to do nothing. I know. I have
been battling that a little bit, and then at the
end of the day, I just feel like crap because
I didn't do anything. So even if it's like trying
to get a workout in or organizing something, or you know,
knocking out a bunch of emails or not that there's
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a lot of emails coming in going on. But you know,
I'm gonna ask a few questions about your favorite stuff
and then I want to get back to the record
for a second. But um, pretty pretty tough questions here
because they are all time, lifetime favorite. So what is
your who is your favorite artist of all time? Artist
of any kind in any format? Oh man, Oh my gosh. Okay, honestly,
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I think overall with I know the most songs by
this artist and tried to sing like her my whole life,
so I would say Lee and Walmack. I think she
really shaped how I attempt to sing songs. Have you
met Leanne Yes? And she's sang at our album released
party for the first album and I nearly fainted like
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and she's so sweet, like so down to earth, and
I was just so star struck. I think she was
not expecting me to be that star struck. All right,
let's go with your favorite album. It doesn't have to
be a Lean Willmack record. But do you have a
favorite album that you go that's the one from my lifetime?
Oh my gosh, I'm I'm sorry to be stuck on Lean,
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but they call me crazy. Album by Lean Walmac is
my Well Okay, dang, it's so hard. Okay, I'm gonna
go with that one. Call me crazy Lean will Max?
All right? Let me switch it up. Non country favorite
artist right now, period lifetime? If did you get one?
Who is it? Oh? Oh? Really? Yes? Look at you?
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That's interesting? You know. Um, I'm astreading Fan two. I like,
you know, I think sometimes people hear otistreading and they'll
hear like hard to handle, which the Black Crows didn't go.
He did that before. The Black Crow has made it
a rocket. I mean, and he has. He has so
many songs that he's saying and like concert way back
in the day that other artists end up covering two
that you would really only know from them. But I'm
a big otish writing guy too. Let's see. How about
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your favorite record non country? Non country? Oh dang, that's
so hard? Uh non country? Good God, this is difficult.
I'm gonna go with. I mean, I'm just gonna go
with something that I love right now. Um, the Hairy
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Styles Fine Line record. It's good, it's I know, it's
really good. Yep. And I I am. I have to
say this because I'm an adult man. I am not
a big Hairy Styles guy. However, I'm a huge Harry
Styles guy now, dude, Okay, I'm so The first record
that he released I loved, and I was supposed to
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go with one of my girlfriends to the rhyme and
to go see him, and she had to back out
because she got another tour, and so I was like, Jonah,
you got to come to this continent. He's like, oh no,
I'm not gonna go see freaking Harry Styles. And he's
a little girls screaming all this, and I was like, no,
you have to, like, I can't go by myself. So
he ended up going. And Jonah is a die hard
Harry Styles stand now and he said the same thing
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you did. He was like, I was not a Hairy
Styles guy. And now, especially by record two, he is
totally in and he's such a rock star, Like if
you've seen him live, it is insane. He just made
timeless music on his newest record, exactly exactly and never
it does not fear like I mean, it just embodies
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a whole entire millennium. I feel like, yeah, it's good man,
I'm with you on that our favorite. If you get
one meal, favorite meal, you're celebrating your favorite meal as
what I'm gonna say, habachi, which is a little ratchet
but favorite. Is there a habachi place that you go
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to in town if it's like your your birthday or
you're celebrating something, Yes, but it's nasty. It's called minty.
I don't mean to bast them, but it's like it's
like raunchy, Like it's not it's like fat me. It's
not like Benny Hannah where it's like, you know, that's
I guess that's not very fancy either. But hey, listen,
when I was a kid, we couldn't afford that we
go to Benny hannah like once a year if church
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youth group had saved definite enough money to send us.
Because I yet, you know, we got to go to
Benny Hannah's once a year with my family, and it
was only for a birthday. That was that was the occasion.
Well well, well, I want to make a couple of
observations about the record because I've spent some time because
I I think you guys are great. I love you guys.
Sound I'm fans obviously, I'm a fan of obviously, I
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think because I I do a lot of pitch meetings
for TV shows because I've been creating some TV shows
and being awesome shows, and they always ask what is
the show like? And and for a long time I thought,
I don't want to compare it to anything else, but
I think compare it to something that is great. Now
after doing this for a while, it's very complimentary. And
I was listening to you guys, and if someone asked
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me the question what is it like, this is what
I would say. I would say, it's like a little
more emotional, slightly more vocal powered the records. Yes, that's
what I would say. That That's why I would say.
I would if you like the record the re records,
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you're gonna love this. It's a little newer meaning the
texture that the production. But and there's a I think
the vocals are a little more pure. But I think
there's a lot of the records there. And I don't
know if that is a compliment to you or not,
but to me, that's a compliment. And I was bummed
out whenever they stopped making music because I love the
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blend of their voices and I loved how their audio
engineer always um, he like rode the harmony with the
lead vocal really high to where it almost sounded like
two lead vocals, just different notes. And that's kind of
what we went for with this record, like we I
think if you go back to the first record, you'll see,
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like Ty's vocal isn't as loud as it is on this,
And I feel like we really sound like a harmony band,
Like we really, you know, because we weren't rushed, and
we weren't you know, eighteen years old and had no
idea what we were doing at this time. You know,
we were kind of seasons, you know, in the business
after six years, and we're like, this is how we
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wanted to sound. That's a huge compliment. I'm so glad. Well,
I didn't read that any note that that you got.
Did you ever say that anywhere that there was you
love the records, records, last album or anything, because that
definitely wasn't derivative of anything I read. No, I I've
never liked. I mean, I used to play lead the
pieces all the freaking time, and I just loved there.
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That whole entire album was so solid. But no, I
don't think anyone has been. I'm proud. I'm proud of
my analogy. Then yes, and then you should. Maddie says,
well that you know, the the third engineer who was
working in Section C of the building that day had
a microphone. It was a dB doubled X and I'm like,
how did you even know this? So well, listen, I
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hope everybody checks it out. I'm I'm proud that you
guys have new music. I love that you went ahead
and put it out anyway, because again, if you don't
put it out now, who knows, It's like how long
they're gonna hold you? And so well, you know, I'm
a huge fan of of you guys, a huge fan
of you. I think you're so funny, and I appreciate
you spending time and congratulations on on life and music
and everything. Hey back at you. I'm so happy for
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you and and I'm just you know, excited to see
your face everywhere and always rooting for you, and we're
just grateful that you've always been so kind to us
and supportive. And thanks for listening to the new album
because I value your opinion. I like your I like
your musical like descriptions, I am intrigued by the way
that you describe music and stuff. So I love that
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you dug into all the songs and the record. That's
very nice. Okay, you go back to living your life
in quarantine and fix your phone on the time zone.
Other than that, we're square here. I'll talk to you soon,
all right, all right, by Maddie. We're about to talk
to Jen Wayne from Runaway June who has corona. Here
(47:16):
is a clip of Runaway June's biggest song by my
Own Drinks. And I saw online that she has coronavirus.
I texted her and she's on Now. How are you feeling?
Oh I feel fine now, thank god. So when did
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you start to think that you were sick? So? I, um,
March one, which was my mom's birthday. The day before
my birthday, I woke up and I had kind of
like a little dry cough. It wasn't bad at all,
so I really didn't think anything of it. But I
had really bad body aches, and so oh maybe I
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just want to you know, pushed it too hard on
my run and it was really windy the day before.
I just kind of shrugged it off. Well. The next day,
the body aches were just severe, like I was just crippled.
It felt like someone was literally crushing my back together.
And so that's when I was like, Okay, this wasn't normal.
But I never had a fever, my cough didn't get worse.
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It was just kind of just minimal. And so of
course I'm like looking up every kind of coronavirus symptom,
coronavirus symtom, blah blah blah. And I had only been
to the grocery store, so I just couldn't imagine that
I would have gotten it. You know, I've been secluded
at home. You got it at the grocery store. You think, well,
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it's the only place I've been other than CBS, and um,
they were only allowing twenty people in at a time
at the grocery store, and so there was like a
line outside that you had to wait to get in,
and there was a girl in front of me coffee
and I remember just thinking like, oh, this is how
I'm gonna get coronavirus, and then obviously just a joke
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in my mind. And then four days later was when
I got the symptoms. And I've been with my mom
the entire time i've been here, and that was the
only time my mom didn't go with me to the store.
So and it was really windy that day, so I'm
just the only thing I can think of that the
girls coughing and the wind was blowing right at me
and I was standing behind her. Are you West Coast now? Yeah,
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I'm in Malibu with my parents. Um, I've been here
the whole time. Has they been able to got both
of them didn't get it. They both got tested and
um it's been you know, three weeks now, so we're
in the clear. But it's just so scary. I was
just freaked out about my parents getting it. Did they
take care of you and still not get it? Or
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did they just go, oh, you go to that room,
we'll leafed out the door. Well, I didn't even know
I had it because I didn't have a fever and
I didn't have you know, the traditional symptoms. But by
the third day it lasted five days really of me
being sick, and by the third day of like my
eight body aches not going away. Um, that's when I
was like, Okay, something is really wrong with me. And
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I was so fatigued I couldn't get out of bed,
like I couldn't go get something in the kitchen without
feeling exhausted and having to sleep when I got back
to the room. So that's when I just started self
isolating just to be safe, because I talked to my
doctor and they said, well, right now, you know, the
test are limited, so if you don't have a fever
shortness of breath, just act as if you have it.
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So I just stayed in the back room and my
parents were like, oh, come on, you don't have it.
You know. They wanted me to come to the dinner
table for dinner. I'm like, you guys know something is
really wrong with me. And so I just stayed back there.
And then I was just reading on all the websites
that said wait seventy two hours from your last symptom
before you, you know, stop self isolating. So I just
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stayed in my room that whole time him um. And
then I felt better and I thought, okay, well I
just had some crazy whatever flu or whatever I had.
And then I lost my sense of smell and that's
when I was like, oh geez, that is what made
me think, Okay, I freaking had this thing. And so
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I waited in line. I drove. There was one place
in in l A doing the antibody test, and um,
I drove down there it's like an hour and a
half from my parents, and they turned me away because
there were too many cars, And so I went back
the next day because I just had this weird feeling
like I know I had it. I lost my sense
of smell. I never had a head at a fever,
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but all the other symptoms were coronavirus symptoms. So I
waited in line for four hours to get the antibody tests,
and sure enough, it came back positive. And I was
just really in shock, and then of course really worried
about my parents and you know, going through the timeline
of oh my god, am I still contagious or they
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need to get tested, and it was just it was
a emotional thing. Wow, when you saw the test result,
it said you have corona and obviously you're feeling better,
but you still see it on paper. I mean, is
that like, Wow, I can't believe that I have the
thing I've been seeing on TV that everybody's been sick on. Yes,
I mean it was it was. I knew I had
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a feeling that I had it, but it was still
a shock to see it. And then you know, it's
this weird feeling of feeling like kind of like a leoper,
Like I'm like, Okay, I have to tell my parents,
but I don't want to tell anyone else. Can I
walk in the neighborhood? Can I do this? And I mean,
I just it's this weird feeling of oh, now you're
that girl with the virus or the disease. UM so
(52:46):
that I think the emotional part of just the stigma
of it, I think was really um difficult for me.
And then I went back and self isolated even longer.
They said, wait seven days before you um, seven days
with no symptoms before you really can start going back
out again. So I just was wanting to be safe
(53:08):
rather than sorry. You know, Holy crap, I did see
on your Instagram you said the I've been struggling with
whether or not to share. And then you had a
sign of three things you're grateful for. The First one
said your parents not getting the virus, which is crazy
they didn't get it, especially because you didn't know you
had it. That's that's crazy, I know. The second says
(53:28):
my body, which I have so harshly judged in the past,
fought it off and kept me healthy. Talk about that
for a second. Well, that was just kind of a
moment of um, real gratitude for you know, me being
healthy and my body, which of course, UM like worried
about all the time and being on stage if you
feel like you're overweight or I don't know, just I
(53:50):
pick apart my body every single day of my life.
So um, it was just this moment of Wow, my
body is what got me through this thing. And I
didn't have a severe case like so many other people,
so it just kind of was it brought me in check,
you know, really be thankful that I'm that I'm healthy
and that I don't have to worry about things that
(54:12):
some people that aren't healthy worry about. You know, my
body is I'm able to walk and fight off the coronavirus.
So I just felt grateful. Dang dang, dang, dang. That's crazy.
And right now, do do you feel all the way
back to normal? Yeah, it's been about um a week
of feeling all the way back to normal. I felt fine,
but I just wasn't a dent. I just felt tired, um,
(54:36):
and I did have like a pressure on my chest
when it wasn't I didn't have a difficulty breathing, but
I could just still feel it. So I just took
it easy and um when I when I thought that
something was wrong, and of course I'm looking up coronavirus
symptoms and everything. I told a few people family and doctors,
and they said, load up on vitamin C, vitamin D three,
(54:59):
show the mushrooms and zinc. And so that's why, really,
that's why I wanted to share, because I of all
the websites I was looking at, all it had with
information on what to do if you have it as
far as isolating, but it really didn't say anything you
know what to do to take care of yourself other
than if you're feeling chest. I mean, if you're feeling
(55:21):
struggling of breathing, then go to the hospital. So I
don't know if that's what got me better. I just
felt like that was something I needed to share because
there's it's different for everyone. There's no proof of what
works and what doesn't. But that seemed to help me.
So I just thought if I could help one person,
and also just your immunity, those vitamins are good in general,
(55:42):
even if you don't have it, you know to just
stay stay strong and keep your immunity built when you
did the test, was it blood or they stick the
thing in your nose? I did the blood, so I
went and waited to do that anibody test and it
said it came back positive, and it said that I
was in the process of creating them. I guess there's
(56:03):
two antibodies that you need. One's um I g M
and one's I g G. And I had the I
g M, which means my body was still in the
process of fighting it off. So I technically still had
the virus even though I didn't have symptoms anymore. So
then they recommended that I do the swab um for
the you know CDC to count it. So I did
(56:24):
that too, and that came back positive, of course, because
I had it UM. So I am now waiting to
do my second antibody test so that I can donate
blood and plasma, because that's definitely something I really want
to do. When do you find out if you're all
clear Tuesday? You're nervous about that or no? Um no,
(56:48):
because I know I'm fine. If the virus is still
in me, it just means I have to wait longer.
But I know I've I'm on the it's been over
two weeks of no symptoms. I'm on the I'm on
the mend. I just really I've been hearing stories about
like there's a firefighter and Torrents right now struggling with
his life and they're begging for plasma. And I'm like,
(57:08):
I'm here, I'm ready. I called the fire department, I
emailed them, I you know, sent my stuff to Red Cross.
So I'm just I want to I want it to
be over with so I can help people. Dang, well,
I'm glad you're healthy. As soon as I heard I
text you, I was like, holy crap, howd are you feeling?
Because I assumed you were feeling better if you announced it. Yeah,
(57:30):
And I wanted to wait and make sure that both
my parents didn't have it, and that we waited the
amount of time where you know, it was most likely
that it was I was not contagious. Um. I was laughing, no, Bobby,
because I really did think about you. I'm like, well,
Bobby's just been washing his hands and wearing masks before
anyone else. You're on top of You're on top of
(57:50):
the curb here. Well, I was trying I listen. I
was judged pretty harshly. When I'm the guy with the
mask on the airplane pre Corona, people were like, what's
up with that? Weird though, now I'm just one of
the guys. Well, I'm glad you're laughing, and I'm glad
that you're feeling a bit better. I hope your test
comes back that you're able to donate, and it's a
selfless way to think. And I also thought your Instagram
message of the things you were thankful for was um
(58:12):
was it was a really nice thing to see. Um.
So glad you're healthy, Jim, That's what it is. Well,
thank you. Will you guys stay healthy and safe out
there too, and I can be everyone's safe grocery shop
or now. Yeah, you're invincible now yeah, okay, golden ticket. Now, well,
talk to you soon and hopefully I'll see relatively soon. Okay, okay, alright,
(58:34):
bye Jim, Bye,
Host
Bobby Bones
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