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Bobby and Eddie talk about legendary artists who have never landed a no. 1 song on the Billboard Hot 100. Bobby’s exclusive interview with his 11-year old niece, Kiley where she talks about her favorite artists. Bobby talks to Nikki Sixx about his new song about recovery, the all-star lineup, and the early days of MÖTLEY CRÜE. Bobby and Eddie’s Music School: A crazy moment from the CMA Awards involving Alan Jackson and George Jones! Plus the story and demo behind “Islands in the Stream” and how it was written by The Bee Gees!

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Hey guess, welcome to episode to sixty three. We are
the music podcast you love. We'll do the big new
releases this week in a second. Also, my eleven year
old niece was in town. They spent a few days
with me, niece and nephews. So I talked to her
about music. It's an exclusive. Her name is Kylie. We
talked about her Mount Rushmore her favorite artist, so that's
coming up. Also, we've moved Bobby and Eddie's music school

(00:24):
over to this A crazy moment from the c m
A Awards involving Allen Jackson will talk about that. Eddie
and I talked about legendary artists who have never had
a number one song. We'll talk to NICKI six and
Motley Crew. So all that's happening. Here's the biggest five
monthly cruise songs. By the way, because I was a
little later than Motley Crew, that was very eighties. I
really didn't get into music until the nineties, like early

(00:49):
to mid nineties, where I was out trying to save
up to buy tapes or CDs, and then that was
Garth Brooks and Nirvana, and both of those was never
the Motley Crue stuff. Let's see if I know. There's
number five, Shout at the Devil. These are the most
stream Motley Crue songs. I do know this song, shout
at that Devil, all right? Number four dr feel Good

(01:11):
then feel Good? Yeah, no, you know that one too, right.
Number three is a really good song, Home Sweet Home.
This is a good one way a mama way, Home
Sweet Home. You know that one. I didn't know it
was them, but I know the song from movies. In

(01:32):
the interview with him in a minute, because Nikki six
was one of the guys that founded the band, I
almost asked him how he felt about their music being
used in role models, if he thought that was real.
But that was all kiss music. Okay, I'm glad I
did it. Number two Girls, Girls, Girls, and the number
one Montley Crue song streaming of all time is kick

(01:53):
Start My Heart. So we'll talk to Molly crew with him.
But also he has a band called six Am and
they put out a song to help people that are
going through addiction issues. Um. The song is called maybe
It's Time. Here's a clip of that. It's sounds so
you're here all about that song coming up? Just wanted

(02:13):
to start with that. Let's do the New Music Top five.
These are all stuff that I went, wow, sure would
like to hear that, or maybe I've heard it already,
But for one reason or another, it's made my top five.
At number five, Justin Moore put out a live album,
It's Live at the Rheyman. Here's a new live version
of somebody Else. Will you know who wrote that? Right?

(02:40):
Adam Hamburg. Adam Hamburg, who's often on this show. Yeah,
that's why I picked that one there. Maybe I don't
can make a few more bucks from that. At number four,
Travis Tritt has a new song called ghost Town Nation.
It's his first single and almost ten years. Here's the
clip of that. I said till the bound smote down,

(03:02):
make them the best stup of bass. It's best shun
getting my man in the bost Town Nation. Granger Smith
put out a whole new album called Country Things, Volume One.
Here's a new song called Country and you Know It.
So you're gonna hear the hook, you know, hear a
long guitar solo, and then Earl Doubles Jr. Comes in
to sing two, so it's basically a duet with himself.

(03:23):
Here's that boy, I got something beside to listen up.
If you leave bout in the boon, if you grew
ripping the stacks here, I mean you're holding a cold
on and gotta dipping into the up. Scotty McCurry has
a new song out today called You Time and I
need a little You Die real one like and Finally

(03:48):
my friend one of the the singers in Nashville that
I just can't get enough of. Caitlin Smith has a
new song with Old Dominion called I Can't Love both
of Them Kaylin and l Dominion Machine Gun Kelly was

(04:11):
honorable mention. He has a pop punk new album out
today called Tickets to My Downfall. Here's a new song
called Concert for Aliens Now Now Downruster other new stuff.

(04:33):
Daniel Bradberry has a new song called Girls in My Hometown.
Michael Ray has a song out called Whiskey and Rain.
Emily Wise Band has a new song out called Dumber
and JP Sachs has a new song called Maybe Don't
Country albums out. Carrie under What has a Christmas album
out today. Terry Clark has a Christmas album out today.
Band if Heathen's have a new album called Stranger. Fillmore

(04:53):
has a new album called State I'm in and Lydia
Lovelace has a new album called Daughter. There you go,
let me look on the the hip hop part here.
Two Chains got a record Asot ferg Let's see over
in the rock world. Will Butler of Arcade Fire has
a new album out called Generations, Public Enemy has a
new album, The Rolling Stones have a new album, and finally,

(05:14):
suit Jan Stevens has a new album called The Ascension.
So there you go. How you feel about that? Real
pretty good? The Bobby Cast music poll of the week,
and you can answer this by following at the Bobby Cast.
Do you like it when country artists release Christmas albums?
It's pretty split and say yes? Say no? I asked

(05:38):
because three artists put out Christmas albums this weekend. More
have recently announced Christmas projects as well, so I thought,
you know, it's tough to have one that's not cheesy
but still borders on cheese because we love the cheese
of Christmas. You know, it's tough. Brett Eldridge's Glow still
maybe Pound from Pound, my favorite, Casey Musgraves has just

(06:00):
a wonderful Christmas album too. Alvin and the Chipmunk still
rocks any for you I don't really like Christmas albums now,
but Brett's is like really good. That's the one you
torn on around the house if you want to film
mature and still love it. He's good. He's good. U
Luke and Maren Luke Combs Marion Morris leads back of

(06:21):
nominees for the Billboard Music Awards as we start the
Music News this week. They each got four nods each.
They're followed by Thomas Rheton Marion Morris who have three,
although that doesn't make sense because Marion Morris can't have four,
A can't have three. Obviously there's a typo in this,
but it looks like Luke Combs and Mary Morris are
leading the Billboard Music Awards. Talked about Kelly Clarks in
Their Life from Los Angeles on October four on NBC,

(06:44):
and the guy that's producing that has done a podcast
on this show, Robert Eaton. He also does the c
m as Close with him, so check that out. You
can go back and here an old episode of him,
because he's on talking about his life and how he
became a TV producer. Is pretty cool. Let's see er
post Malone does lead with sixteen. By the way, those

(07:05):
that I read. The leaders in the country were four,
but post Malone has sixteen. The killer of John Lennon
apologizes to Yoko Ono. The man who killed the Beatles
icon says he did it for the glory. Mark David
Chapman was denied parole for the eleventh time last month
for the murder when he shot John Lennon in front
of his New York City apartment. Newly released transcripts from

(07:25):
the parole hearing revealed Chapman said he was angry at
Lennon and jealous of the way he was living. He
also said he had a list of three other celebrity
targets if he wasn't able to kill Lennon. He apologized
to Yoko Ono, saying he just judged him without knowing
what kind of man he was. They didn't let him
out by the way, I said that, right, Yeah, not
at all, no chance, right You when you murder somebody

(07:46):
and you say it's for glory, you have to go
in and go I was so wrong because he could
go out and kill again for a little more glory.
What's he got to lose now? BTS fans rejoice. The
K pop band performed a tiny Death concert and it
took about twenty five minutes to break the NPR series
record for most views. On the first day, it got
over six million views in less than twenty four hours.

(08:07):
Fun fact, Eddie and I got invited to do a
tiny desk concert right before Corona hit Dang, and we didn't.
We didn't do it because we weren't flying anywhere. Maybe
VTS they're doing it at their own tiny desk and
recording it at their house. Looks like they built one.
That's interesting. We could do that the raging idiots. But
we did get invited because sometimes they'll pick peculiar kinds
of artists and more comedy or like acoustic comedy. Maybe

(08:32):
I should get back on that. Bruce Springsteen wrote a
whole new album on a guitar fan gave him. How
cool would that be if you're the one that gave
him that guitar and you see he wrote a whole
new album on it. Why Spotify has so many bizarre
generic fake is artists. The platform is filled with search
optimized spammers, and there's no end These accounts just constantly
re upload the same tracks on Spotify. If your music

(08:54):
ranks highly for a generic search term like relaxing or
white noise. You can accumulate enough listener to steadily make hundreds,
if not thousands of dollars with almost no effort at all.
Isn't this wild? It's nuts. They have just figured out
how to gain the system. It's like a numbers game.
While the platform pays only in the neighborhood of a
third of a penny per stream. And if you're not Drake,
it's tough to make a whole, whole, whole lot of money.

(09:15):
But if you're in there for one of these search
terms like music to relax, it just comes up. It
just comes up. Crazy, Mike, did youeral punk band have
a I guess it's not on Spotify. Huh, it was
on my Space. You can set your u r L.
So we said it to our band name slash error.

(09:36):
So anytime anybody would hit like an error page, it
would go to our page and it would get a
lot of streams. Really yeah, pretty good. All right, there's
music news, there's the big new releases. Let's get going
with today's show. Thank you guys. That easier with me.
We're gonna talk about surprising artists who have never had
a hot one number one hit so massive, but never
got that all wonderful, straight number one song. So this

(10:02):
was inspired by an article I saw about legendary artists
who have had this um and so I pulled some
of these here. It says if you're looking for it's
off of Insider, right, Mike, That's where the article is
an insider of Insider. So first of all, James Brown,
oh huge artists, never had a number one. He charted
over nineties songs on the Billboard Hot one hundred, including

(10:24):
Problem's Got a Brand New Bag, It's a Man's World?
Or is or I Got You? Which I Feel Good?
Do you know that's called no? I thought it was
called I I Feel Good, I Got You? I Feel Good.
That was the closest he had, peaking at number three
living in America. I hit number four from Rocky um before,

(10:47):
but it was was that made just for rock? I
feel like it was because that's the only place I
remember hearing it living in And then he gets killed.
That was the nine He got killed by the Russia.
Spoiler h Nirvana. Millions of albums sold, plenty of posters,
plenty of teachers with a smiley face, but never had

(11:09):
a number one. You think they could have eventually. I
mean smells like teen Spirit number six. It's it was
tough in that genre to just dominate because the Billboard
one all Genres, Yes, correct, and this is early nineties,
so you're going against some big pop artists. They were
pop for a that was pop for a bit. But yeah,

(11:32):
this is the biggest song. Number six. Smells like teen Spirit.
Here you go. God, I love this. You remember this
coming out or hearing it for the first time? What
do you think? I was obsessed with it. I was
obsessed with what they what they stood for. I wish
I didn't really know. I just saw a bunch of
dudes and raggedy clothes and that's what I wore, and

(11:53):
people that were kind of upset at everything, and I
didn't really know why, but so was I. And it
was cool because we were in an age where like
we we didn't have our music. Before us was you know,
like the early nineties stuff of early pop stuff or whatever,
and then in rock it was hair metal and that
really just didn't feel like us. When this came out,
it's like, we have our music, but this and like
the Garth and mcgrawl nineties that that was my nineties,

(12:16):
like nineties country into alternative, and I kind of there
was a time where it was just country, then it
was country, and then it just got to be really Nirvana, Pearl,
Jim Allison, chains and that was really it for a while. Yeah,
same here. Yeah they never had a number one, number
six there, Shania Twains never had a number one. That's crazy.
M she has country ones, but hot one hundreds all genres.

(12:39):
So she's the first and only female artists have three
consecutive albums to be certified Diamond over ten million units sold.
But you're still the one peaked at number two probably
her biggest, Yeah, their biggest pop song from this moment
on that don't impress me much, man, I feel like
a woman for seven and twenty three. Wow, number two,

(13:00):
she got so close. Johnny Cash is forty nine. Your
career only had one top ten hit, and what do
you think is? What do you think? It was? A
ring of fire? Give me another one? Walk the line? Uh,
let me give you a little more. No, he only
had one song in his entire career cracked the top ten,

(13:22):
which was a song Okay, it was live, okay, fulsome
prison blues. Come on, there you go. He peaked a
number two. He didn't write it. My name is soon.
How do you do? It's a great list man. These are,
like you're right, legendary artists without number one. Green Day

(13:46):
never had a hot one number one. I have time right.
Oh it's tough because right now the pop sound isn't
that but they are still making good music. The highest
charting song, Boulevard a Broken Dreams peaked at number two too. Yeah,
because it's gotta be if you're not in the pop roll,
it's got to be so big and it's respective format
that it ends up on the pop station and then

(14:08):
has to go number one there and stuff. But this
was a big pop song. They turn that up a
little bit sad. It's not my favorite green Day song,
but it was later a green Day but it was big,
like my favorite green Day because again, the first time
I heard the Dukie album was like, oh, I don't
know like punk? Yeah, well, do you have the time
to listen to me? While I was like wow and

(14:30):
like long View and I was like damn yes, Mike,
I know you're a punk guy now, but do you
like Green Day? I love Green Day? One of my
favorite bands are they founding Fathers. They're like, Dukie is
like the ultimate pop punk album, pop punk, yeah, because
straight punk will probably like Ramans and stuffhen they're like
Dukie on each other and Ramans misfits. But green Day

(14:52):
is like pop punk pop punk one direction. They got
number two, but best song ever. That's shocking. How long
was their career? Less than five years? Probably about that
just guessing enough to be around for a long time,
but not long enough to really who's your favorite? Harry

(15:13):
me too, And I'm telling you if he wasn't in
one Direction, he'd be the biggest rock star we have. YEP.
I agree. His record is so good man. It doesn't
sound like one direction. Sounds like a guy that loves
seventies and eighties rock with with some new kind of
texture now. But it's so good. I think mayle Horn
is pretty good too, But I just I just like
Harry's music a little better. I like Harry's music, but

(15:34):
I like Nile style. I like to singer songwriter by
but I feel like Harry just crushed that last record
and I never would listen to it, but Caitlin just
plays it all the time. Song on it, h This,
I like Adore you though, like walk through fire for you.
Let no Harry style? Yeah, what dude, fire for you?

(16:02):
Just let me do man. They got low confusing like
Nile to Harry, But yeah, I like Nile Horn slow hands.
Bruce Springsteen doesn't have a number one. What do you
think is only number two? Was born in the USA?
Dancing in the Dark Dancing spent four weeks stuck in

(16:22):
the runner up slot behind Prince when Doves Cry? So
what was born in the US at number one? I'm
not a number two? So what on earth? I'm not
doing their top two or three songs? I don't know
fair enough imagine Dragons. They have flirted with it a
few times, getting as high as number three with Radioactive

(16:42):
And I like the song. When it came out, I
felt like they got a bad rap. I like the
band because people were like, what a douchebag? I think
they thought they were douchebags because he was muscular and
wore T shirts and kind of showed it off. Yeah.
I like I never with him. I felt like people
were jumping on him unfairly. And I feel like this
is another one where they still have They still have
time Believer? Was it number four in Thunder? Was it

(17:04):
number four? The thunder the jam Backstreet Boys have sold
millions of records, not hit number one? Quit playing games
in my heart? Number two Bevi and I like it
that way that whatever? Um yeah, And they hit number

(17:27):
one and other charts, but the big one they have it,
This is the big one. Miss Elliott has gone It's
highest number two twice with work It Jams. I loved it.
What's the backwards part again? The same thing flipping in reverse?
That's right, we talked about this. Is there another Miss Elliots?

(17:48):
That's the only one, Mike, that's the only one. Okay,
one two steps as well. Wasn't see her on that
with her back in the day. Uh, CCR createds Clearwater
Revival who I probably know every song. Just my stepdad
was a big listen to classic rock all the time.
That's what he listened to, and so I had I
loved CCR, So I went on my own little path

(18:08):
to be a fan of them. I wonder what the
highest song is though they've had the most number two
peeking hits, they that have hit number two, go ahead?
Uh Who'll Stop the Rain? Who Will Stop the Rain?
Is one of them? Traveling band Slash who will stop
the rain go ahead. Uh. And then there's the other

(18:30):
rain song. Have you ever seen the rain? Not in there?
Fortunate Son. You have Proud Mary, which is fortunate Son. Yeah, no,
this is not that's not um. Fortunate Son is literally
fortunate Son, Proud Mary. Um. You also have Bad Moon Rising.
This is bad Moon on the Rise, which a lot
of people like to they think it says there's the
bathroom on the right. I never thought that Green River

(18:59):
is another one that was at number two. Yeah, but
I Eddie, I guess fortunate Son, it ain't me Abe
ain't un fortunate fortunate one, Senator Son es um oh here,
this reminds me a Forrest Gump or any Vietnam era
dial menory anything about Vietnam protests. And this was a
protest song, you know, like, hey, I don't get the

(19:21):
option to not have to go fight for our country.
I'm not a rich kid, I'm no fortunate one. I'm
no Senator Son. So good, dude, I just got chills
when you grot that down. Yeah, that Red, White and Blue. Dam.
Bob Dylan has never had a number one song, I
believe it, although probably other people have had number one
songs with his well, he got a number two with

(19:41):
like a ruling stone. Yeah, jam who has love Bob
Dylan and my kids hate him. They just can't stand
when I played Bob Dylan. They're like, please turn this off.
As a terrible rainy day woman also was was close. Um,
let me see only a couple more of these. Cheryl Crowe,

(20:06):
who I first CD, no at a tape at the tape,
Cheryl Crow twos and Night Music Club listen to All
the Time and All I Want to Do stalled at
number two on the chart for six weeks. So here's
a clip of All I want to do is have
a little fun before I die. I set him in
next to me, out of nowhere. All I want to do,

(20:27):
have some fun? Might you have that click with the
wrong All I want to do in my bed? What's
the one you have? Played that one? Okay? Oh that's
jennifernetto yeah one, Yeah, char Crow was All I want
to do is have a little fun before I die.
Set him in next to me out of nowhere. I'm
sure his name is Billy or Bill or Bob or Buddy.
The names I probably messed up. Um. My favorite charro

(20:49):
Crow song is strong enough here before oh here we
go just at that strong enough with the five if
it makes you happy? When ten happy? If it makes
you happy? Yea kid rock collaboration picture went to number four.

(21:09):
Everybody's a Winding Road. You know she was a teacher
before she No, I didn't know that music. Yeah crazy,
she's she's a rock star that she is. Only have
a couple more the Who They had one song crack
the top ten. I can see from miles Yeah my

(21:32):
Jimi Hendrix All Along the watch Tower. His biggest only
went number twenty, written by yeah yeah Bob Marley. Oh
wow he was How how high did he get? Well?
Nufte That was the highest Bob Marley ever gotten. People
love Bob Marley and his band the Way. There's released

(21:54):
dozens of songs before one reached fifty one on the
chart Roots Rock and Reggae Rock. I was reading a
story about Bob Marley yesterday because I am a nerd
and I'm not a huge Bob Marley fan. But one
of the writers to No Woman, No Cry is the
guy that didn't write the song. But it's a guy
who was running a suit kitchen for people Jamaica, and

(22:19):
so he wanted him to keep getting the royalties to
keep the soup kitchen going. Really started as a writer.
Get out crazy. That is so interesting. I didn't know that, dude,
that's crazy. You never know what you're gonna learn on
this show. That's bomb. That was I don't know. I
don't you know. He died such a long time ago listening.
All humans are extremely multifaceted, right, and I'm sure there

(22:41):
were wonderful parts of them. But if you read those
stories about how he got his songs played on the
radio in the early days, oh yeah, he was renegade
style with the go up with a gun. Yeah, he
would go to Island Records with a gun and his
whole crew. You know, they all look scary and just
be like, you're playing our music. You're gonna sign us today,
You're gonna make us famous. That's that Sugar Night Vanilla
I stuff where they're hanging to Vanilla I by the
ankles over the the hotel balcony. Well it's it's and

(23:01):
it's not even just that too, Like if you look
at how all the kids he has and all the
different wife or the one wife he had, but kids
with a lot of other women and It's just a
different lifestyle that nowadays we'd be like, oh my gosh, well,
I hope you guys liked that little part of this show, um, Eddie,
promote your podcast. If people looking for something else, listen
to the Sore Losers podcast. Me, lunch Box and Ray.

(23:22):
We talk sports, just a lot of guy talk. I
mean I get just the biggest laughs with these guys
and have a really good time doing this podcast with them.
All Right, there you go, check out the Sore Losers podcast.
There you go, Kylie, what should we call this segment? Um?

(23:42):
I don't know music Kylie likes? Or music kids like?
Or music Kylie and the kids like? Which one third
one music? Kylie and the kids like, Yes? I love it?
All right? You're how old? Um? Eleven? About to be twelve?
When do you turn? Twelve? October two? Coming up pretty quick? Okay? Nice?
And will you do something on this show where we

(24:04):
talk about we call Mount Rushmore a favorites? Now do
you know what Mount Rushmore is? What is it? It's
like this mountain that has all the famous people on. Yeah,
the presidents. Yeah, good for you. Who knew you were
so smart? What the crap? Do you know? Any of
the presidents that are on it. Can you give me
one of them? George Washington boom perfect? Can you name

(24:27):
another one though? Um? Abraham Lincoln boo too. We're gonna
leave it there. Great job. Okay, So there are four
heads on Mount Rushmore, right, that the four big presidents.
So what we do, though, is what we'll sign different
categories where if you had to make a mounta Rushmore
of your favorite artists singing artists, what would they be?

(24:48):
And there would be four of them? Okay, so you
get four favorite singing artists. What's number one? A Grande?
Why do you love Ariana grande Um because she sings music?
Did you ever put out any songs where you're like,
I don't really like that one sometimes? Oh? Really? What's
your favorite Ariana grande song? Um? Stuck with you? Is

(25:09):
that justin Bieber when you were making me listen to
last night? That's a pretty good song. Huh. How long
have you been a fan of Ariana grande Um? Four years? Wow?
Do you ever wear the cattiers? No? That's who would't
wear that? That's this is your jam right here? Do

(25:33):
you know how to do you know the words? Go ahead?
Don't want to sing with it. It's a little bit
you got it? Come on there, it is pretty good. God,
all this summer my nice? Come on friends? You like

(26:03):
Justin Bieber? Kind of? I like his music? Okay, we
had this talk though, Yeah, you said, well it's kind
of weird though, But then I said, then I said,
what what did I tell you that? It made him
seem a little cooler? Caitlyn went to church with that.
That's right. Him and Caitlin went to church together, and
she said he was super nice. And that's pretty cool. Right.
Anytime you hear somebody's n eyes. Have you ever met

(26:25):
a celebrity? Um? Not, well I met you. It's been
a real celebrity alright. Ariana Grande is number one, number
two Lewis Capaldi? Wow, and you like him because I
like his music. He's a big boy singer. What's your

(26:46):
favorite Louis Capaldi song? Um? Someone you love? Oh, that's
a good one. Do you ever check him out on Instagram?
Not really? He's pretty funny. It's your jam here suiting.
I guess that's kind of ugo. You know that's pretty

(27:10):
good enough? Not really? Okay, So you have Ariana Grande,
Louis Capaldi at number three. Um. Probably, Well, I wouldn't
say he's like a big music artist, but he's a
TikToker and he makes music. Also, Okay, it's your list.
They can be your favorite people to do music. His

(27:33):
name is Jaden Holster. Never heard of one, but that
doesn't mean he's not cool Jaden Holster. And why do
you like him? Um? When he sings music? He hasn't
really just like singing random stuff. He usually sings what
he's thinking about. Interesting, it's a songwriting technique. Yeah. And
how old is he do you think? I think he's

(27:54):
like eighteen. Okay, it's a little too old for you,
but you still like him? I like his music? Yeah, yeah,
whatever you say? Yeah yeah, yeah, So you're still on
TikTok a lot. Um. Yeah, how's that going for you? Well?
I had to get a new accounts so not that
good because I forgot my password and how to get
a new phone, so both things happened. Had to get

(28:16):
a new a whole new account. Bar about all the
followers because I had reposted you once and you got
it like a thousand followers on my very first account.
I had, like now, on that very first account, I
have four hundred and five followers, but on account I
have right now I only have like fifteen. Well that's
because you had to change accounts. What's your TikTok name?
Um bet underscore on Underscore Kylie too? Like bet On Kylie?

(28:41):
B et underscore on on Underscore Kylie k? I l
e y number two or just too yeah number number two? Yeah? Yeah?
Why why is it bet On Kylie? I don't know
a lot of our friends were doing it, so I
just did it, and like everyone keeps on changing thirst,
but I still want to change it. Okay, you have
one more artist you can put in your mount rushmore.

(29:03):
Who would it be? Um, I'll say Justin Biever. You
just said he was weird. Well, just because he's weird
doesn't me I don't like his music. Okay, I expect
you to say Bruno Mars. Oh yeah, yeah you can.
You can whichever one. I just because that's mostly what

(29:24):
we play. When when it's like I'm gonna hit music
for you, it's Bruno Mars. Do you like Bruno more?
If now I'm not gonna four, I'm not gonna push
you in a direction. But if someone said you can
only listen to one person's music for a week. Is
it Bruno Mars or is it Justin Bieber? Are you
sure your fourth person? Is you committed to this? Yes? Okay,
Bruno Mars it is, that's your fourth person. What's your

(29:47):
favorite Bruno Mar song? Um? I don't really know what
the names are. What's sinking to me? Saying? That? Was
that slow one? I don't really remember? Come you got? Oh?
You just is good? You know this one? Yeah? You
don't listen to the bad words and these songs? Right?

(30:08):
I don't know sometimes, but you don't say them. No, No,
you can't say that, you know. I don't. I don't
cuss at all. I haven't said a bad word in
years and years, So you don't say bad words either, right?
All right? What great are you in? Um? Sixth gird?
How's that working out for you? Good? You like it?
Your friends nice to you? What's cool about school? Whis

(30:29):
favorite subject? Right now? Um? Band? Yeah? What are you doing? Band?
Might play the flute? You do? Are you any good?
I don't know yet? So how in the world did
you pick band? Um? Well, my friend Emily was signing
up for a band and she wanted me to sign

(30:49):
up with her so I did, and then she ended
up signing up for something that I wanted her to
sign up for. Okay, so you guys, but what did
What did she signed up for? You? Choir? So you're
both doing a banned choir that's pretty cool in the
same classes to really pretty cool? How school? You weren't
a mask in class all day? How's that? Um? Terrible? Why?

(31:12):
Because it's really hot? But I mean it's good to
wear it because it keeps me from getting sick. Yeah,
I agree with that and getting other people sick. What's
your favorite TV show? Um? Either Friends or Bald's Burgers.
What the really? What I expected to say? I also

(31:32):
like Friends, you like Bob's Burgers. Like Bob Burgers. But
how come last night when I said here's Netflix, here's
my account on Netflix, that you didn't pick either one
of them? Well, because I wanted to rewatch Riverdale again?
And why because I like that show. Who is the
guy that you says your boyfriend? I don't not anymore?

(31:53):
At least who was it Josh Richards? And who is he?
A TikToker? Okay, he's not your boyfriend anymore? Okay, Well
we'll conclude this this what kids like and what Kylie
likes segment? What are you drinking over there? Um? Starbucks?
But that's not just the Starbucks. It's the most caramel ribbon.

(32:13):
She was like, can I get the small carbon ribbon
chocolate double cookie? It was the most sugar infested thing
I've ever seen in my life? So what is that again?
Caramel crunch? Ribbon rap rap Puccina has a lot of words.
All right, did you have fun? Yes? Are you having
fun here hanging out with me in Nashville? Yes? How

(32:35):
long was the drive? Do you remember? Six hours and
thirty minutes? And how did that feel? Um? Boring? Right?
What did you do the whole time? Um? Sleep and
watch TikTok's and make TikTok's. You made tiktoks in the car.
So if I go to bet underscore on Underscore Kylie
number two, I'm gonna see car tiktoks. Well, you're not
going to see car TikTok because I haven't in my drafts. Oh,

(32:57):
you can't load them up yet. I haven't load him.
All right? If you had fun here at the house,
definitely all right, and you'll have this woman polls fun. Yes, Okay,
that's it. We're done with the segment. Okay, what would
you like to say in conclusion? Goodbye? That's it. Couldn't
have said it better myself, Nicky. Good talk to you again,
you know UHH. I'll start with this, like, how did

(33:19):
you get all these artists together for this song Maybe
It's Time? Well, the song was written by me, James
and DJ and six Am destination to be for the
Heroin Diaries musical, and then the idea was I wanted
to get some super super high level pop and country

(33:42):
artists to be on this song because when we were
working with the musical, I wanted to elevate the conversation.
That's what the whole musical UH is destined to be,
is what RENT was for HIV. The Heroin Diaries will
be for the opiate epidemic and UH a coronavirus hit
as we all know, and everything stopped. So we had

(34:06):
this song and we still wanted to do something, but
we didn't know what for. I mean, obviously we want
to do it for a reason. So UM tied into
the Global Recovery Initiative Foundation UH and to donate all
the money from Maybe It's Time to that, and it

(34:27):
was really easy I called up Slash and I said, Hey,
this is kind of this idea I want to do.
I want to do kind of a bit of a
blue collar version of the song with some pretty pump
powerful singers and I'd love your guitar work on it.
And Slash like, yeah, fine, I go, do you want
to hear it? And he goes, no, man, no, if

(34:49):
you this is important to you, it's important to me.
And that's the kind of guys Slashes and the conversation
is just just kept going like that. I just called
up people and they were like, in anything you need, um,
and so that we put this together. A guy named
Rob Cavallo produced the track and um. I was in
the middle of a move, sold my house in Los Angeles,

(35:12):
moved to Wyoming, so it was kind of hard for
me to be there. So having robbed there and James
Michael from six AM there to really oversee these vocals
and stuff is just fantastic and everybody just a just
a great job, Like guys like Corey Taylor. Corey just
like you know, called me up and goes, you know,
I heard to the Grapevine because like his tech Nos
Slashes Tech that you're doing this thing I want to

(35:35):
do it like it got to be that that positive
of a project. You mentioned Corey from slip Knot. What's
he like to hang out with? I mean, does he
act the same with and without the mask on? He's
such a positive dude, He's a great duties real I
I really like artists that are real and that are

(35:56):
have like a lot of different layers to them, a
lot of depth. One of my I guess, one of
my kind of complaints about where we're app musically and
a lot of cases is it sounds a lot like
bands are writing for radio. They're writing to be honest,
certain like, hey, let's write a song that'll fit on
the workout playlist. And they're starting to all use the

(36:17):
same producers and the same sounds. And it's like this
chord progression. There's there's a study out there that producers
read that will tell you what a hit song is.
And there's these different combinations of chords and where the
minor and the major fit and this whole thing. And
it's just not led Zeppelin, it's not Aerosmith, it's not Metallic,

(36:39):
it's not real. And I'm really proud of these artists
that came up and wanted to work on this because
that's what they're doing with their careers. They're trying to
add depth and dimension. They're talking about things that are
not well there times, things that are like spetistically not
popular sometimes too like this like maybe it's time, is

(37:03):
not a conversation that people are openly willing to have
about the opiate epidemic and solutions because it's a it's
not a pretty, you know, dinner conversation. But I think
that if more parents and more people and more families
and more businesses were having these conversations, and by donating

(37:25):
all the money to the Global Recovery Initiative UH Foundation,
they can get the information they're on where to get help.
And the other thing people are just not really aware
of is the reused pattern on sobriety. So when people
do come in and they get clean and whatever the situations,
there's a million different scenarios. UM a lot of cases

(37:48):
like they may make a week and then fall off
the wagon and have a drink, or they may make
a month and UM, I had a situation on almost
twenty years over now, so it had to be UH
got had to be a what was a long time
it was like a quarter century ago. But I was
about four years sober pure or four years sober, and um,
I slept, I fall off the wagon, and I was

(38:11):
really bummed and ashamed. But what I wanted was to
figure out what I did wrong, how I could do
it better, so I could live a life of sobriety
and be able to be in the position I'm in
right now in my life with you know, kids and
a wife and you know, a career, and um, I
got a lot of dirt thrown on me, a lot

(38:32):
of people. What's wrong with you? I'm ashamed of you.
You could do better. Don't you know what you're doing
to your fans? Don't you What about the record company?
What about this? And I was like, nothing was about me.
It wasn't about like, you know, Nikki, here's a helping hand.
So six Am really tackled some of these subjects in
the past, and we wrote that song accidents can Happen

(38:52):
about that about you know it's not it says, you know,
accidents can happen. It's only one day. It's not your
whole life. Now. I'm not saying people should be uh,
you know, getting clean and sober. And then being thinking
that that flipping and falling off the wagon is a
good thing because unfortunately a lot of people die that way.

(39:13):
But anyway, you know, back back to the subject to hand,
you know, this is very important to me as real artists.
It's a real song, real producer, a real initiative. I
think is important and I appreciate you taking your time
talking about it every time you stream maybe it's time
or you watch the video. Contribution is made to help
someone in recovery, which I think is fantastic. And you know,

(39:34):
a second ago you brought up that you like real
bands who have a reason to get into it, like
you know, a central core reason to to get into
being a band. When you guys because you co found
in Motley Crue, when you guys started, if you had
to go back and assign a mission statement to that band,
what would what would it be? That band or any
band to that band? Like you like, what were you

(39:55):
guys about? Because you guys were as real as it
could be? What was that about? We don't care what
you have to say because it doesn't matter to us.
That was our whole point. People would try to talk
to us about our music and we're like hands up.
We don't want to hear it. I still don't want
to hear it. I write music because I want to
write about something that is pissing me off, making me happy,

(40:20):
inspiring me, whatever it is. I don't want to write
based on analytics and playlists. I don't want to write
songs based on record companies telling me that there the
number one selling album on their label is this. So
now you guys should be this, or you should cut
your hair like this, or maybe you should dress like
I hate it, dude. I just think artists need to

(40:42):
be artists. And you go back historically and the bands
that are still here or the bands that really made
an impact, whether it was folks, pop, disco, rock, heavy metal,
glam Bowie, Elton John, Aerosmith, Queen, they were all expressing
themselves as the self, not as what somebody else wanted.

(41:07):
And I think that that's I'm really proud about that.
Whether you like Motley Crue don't like Motley Crue, you
can drop a needle anywhere on a record if you
have a record and you know every ounce of what
you're hearing was real, every ounce of what you're hearing
is real, as the band really cared really played their
own instrument. Nobody played the guitar parts on a keyboard.

(41:30):
Remember this friend of mine went to a songwriting session
and he brought his guitar and the producer says, what's
that and he goes, I brought my guitar because I
might have some conversions to do with it, and he goes,
we don't play. We don't use guitars here anymore. I'm like, wow, man,
take me away, Take me away. I watched The Dirt,

(41:53):
really enjoyed it on Netflix. How did you feel about
the way that you were portrayed in The Dirt? You know,
I don't know. I asked my wife. I goes, that
does that mean? She goes pretty much? So I don't know.
It's it's a weird thing watching yourself. And also, you know,
I'm sick on my sixties, right, so, um, A lot

(42:16):
of that stuff isn't really applicable to me anymore. And UM,
I can watch it from the outside, but I don't really.
I don't have an ego. I don't believe an ego.
I think egos your downfall. So to me, the movie
was entertainment for our fans and an opportunity to write

(42:36):
some new music, but I wasn't like I got a
movie about myself or anything like that. Does that make sense? Yeah? Yeah,
you know, just watching it and again really enjoyed it
and and know you guys a story and know your story.
Do you feel like though, and you mentioned Metallica earlier,
do you feel like that you guys inspired bands like
Metallica later on? Oh? God, I'm not sure. I mean,

(43:01):
I think one of the one thing about us is
we sort of just like doing our own thing. Oh
and I enjoy other bands, but I don't really. I
don't really look at like a camaraderie among bands. I
kind of like metallicas their band, Aerosmith their band, Motley Cruiser.
We're all our own individual things. So I'm not sure

(43:22):
I can tell you I was influenced by Aerosmith, though
I can tell you that they were like they were
my Rolling Stones. Six AM presents artists for recovery song
called Maybe It's Time. It's helping raise money for the
Global Recovery Initiative during National Recovery Month. It features Corey Taylor,
a slipknoton Stone Hour, Joe Elliott, Brantley Gilbert. I have

(43:43):
a Moody, Slash a Wall Nation, and Tommy Vex. So
I encourage you guys to check it out every time
you stream it or watch the video. It's actually helping
someone with recovery. UM, appreciate you coming on, Nikki, and
thanks for talking with me. Do you know that Motley
Cruise number one streaming song you talking about streaming? Do
you know what it is? I don't What would you
assume it would be? Uh? I don't know. You know.

(44:05):
The weirdest song on our catalog is this song kicks
Start My Heart. Because I was I had gotten clean
and sober after Girls, Girls Girls, and was writing that album,
writing the songs for the album. UM, we were pretty
much done with the record and my manager came by

(44:26):
my house and I write most of my music on
an acoustic guitar just because it's loud and I just
play really hard and I don't even play guitar, so
you can imagine what it sounds like. But I he's like,
what what is that you're playing? And I go, oh,
it's this song kind of this punk rock song, and
he goes, you're going to show it to the band?
I go, man, just's not really meant for Molly Crue

(44:49):
and he goes, well, you're gonna show it to the
band because I think that that really would be a
great song for your record, And I said okay. So
then he came by rehearsals like the Last Stay, a
rehearsal before we went to record the record, and he goes,
you show the guys the song, and then Tommy goes,
what song? And I go nothing, and he goes he goes,

(45:10):
he has this song, he won't show you guys. So
Tommy goes, well, I want to hear it, and I
was like, okay. So I kind of showed the part
to Mick and Tommy and then Vince Jump. I handed
him the lyrics and they started. We started doing it
and they were like, this song is great, but just
goes to show you that song is maybe one of

(45:31):
our biggest songs, but was never actually destined to be
a Motley Cruise song. Isn't that weird? So I don't know.
Maybe that's one of the highest streaming ones. You're number
one streaming song of Motley Cruis Kickstart my Heart. That's it? Yeah?
I like here, well, I appreciate that story, and everybody
listening check out maybe it's time, Nikki. It's great to
talk to you. Thank you for the time, and hopefully

(45:54):
I'll catch you soon. All right, man, Thanks, have a
good day, guys. Bobby and Eddie's Music School is now
in session, up in the morning and out. This was
a segment that we used to do on the radio show,
and so Eddie's on for two segments this this podcast.
But we got a little too nerdy with it because

(46:16):
we really enjoyed the nerdy, nerdy music stuff. Um So,
if we're gonna put some of these really fun ones
inside of this podcast, since it's the music podcast, I'll
go first. I have a story. Eddie has a story,
So music School this week. The year was both George
Jones and Alan Jackson were having big success. George Jones
had an album, Cold Heart Truth. It was one of

(46:39):
the best performing records of his career. It peaked at
number five on the Country Albums Chart. So I'm gonna
play George George Jones Choices here first. Here you go,
Joe Since the day that I was born. So Choices
was nominated for a Single of the Year at the

(46:59):
c m A Awards. It lost to the Dixie Chicks
Wide Open spaces. But since the song was such a
big hit and Jones was a nominee, the CMA said, hey,
why don't you come perform during the ceremony. But there
was a catch. The CMA said, hey, we only have
a little bit of time to perform, so would you
sing a shortened version of Choices rather than the full song?
And he said no, not for me and did not

(47:20):
go to the awards. So this is where Alan Jackson
came in. Alan Jackson was invited to perform on the show.
He was asked to sing his song popa Top. I
don't know if you're familiar with Poppa Top. From there
you go, and by the way, on the chart he
had done better than George Jones Choices that year. So
he kicks off the song like normal, and this is

(47:42):
a very bubbly, cheerful song, so he's upbeat, he's playing
the song and no one knew what he was about
to do on stage. Suddenly, in the middle of an
instrumental break like once people playing solos, Jackson refused to
sing his own song any longer. Instead, he broke into
an emotional formants of Choices that George Jones wasn't allowed

(48:03):
to play in the entire crowd jeered and rose to
its feet. So again Clip one. Here is a clip
of Allen Jackson playing pop a Top as normal. Then
you'll hear the instrumental suddenly stop, and then Allen Jackson
comes back in. I had shown from the jay told

(48:36):
by the time he finished, he just walked off stage.
He's finished it, hand his guitar and walked off, didn't
even stay for the applause. Wow, I got chills. That crazy,
so cool, and you know everyone in the control room
is freaking out, like what does he do? What do
you do? What is he doing? I love it? Awesome?
All right, Eddie, your turn? What you got? All right?
So you know islands in the stream? Right, Kenny and Dolly? Okay,
this for sure is nerdy, but I love it. So

(48:58):
this song was written by the Bgs, the Gift Brothers.
I had no idea that it was written for. It
was written by them one and two written for Marvin Gay.
So they wrote this intended for Martin Gay. It's funny, man,
is what I say. Martin Marvin Gay. It's funny too,
Because at this point of their career, disco had come
and gone, so they were writing the mainly just songwriters

(49:20):
instead of just coming up with disco songs or whatever.
So they wrote this and this is the demo here
from three intended for Martin and for Marvin Gay, but
also to and now we know who ended up recording

(49:40):
the song, Big Smash Kenny and Dolly but uh, also
they recorded the background vocals, so in Kenny and Dollies version,
really didn't know the bgs are singing the background vocals.
Do you have a clip of their version? Ray here?
That staying a Love staying alive? Hear that? And then

(50:03):
they put out a version later on like the Greatest
Hits record where they ended up rerecording the song for themselves. Yes,
did you know that? Yes? I didn't know that. Do
we have a clip of that one? Oh? No, so good?
This has gotta be the demo, right, yeah, this is
the demo Barry GiB Yeah, Berry Go the most famous

(50:26):
big and since we're nerding out to uh, Barry GiB
later bought Johnny Cash his old house after Johnny died,
still here in Nashville, Tennessee. A little side note, Yeah,
he I think he still owns it. He's still alive.
Very GiB Yeah, really yeah, I learn something. I mean,
I hope he is. You know what, in my heart
bones he'll always be alive. Boom in case he's not

(50:50):
covering yourself with that one. Okay, he's alive. Is he alive?
Mike seventy four years old? Where does he live now?
Does this say he's my neighbor? I have no idea.
Did that be amazing? Hey boy? About I brought you?
Was on the cookies, teeth, the teeth, some cookies, but
just some cookies, all right? Doesn't say all right, there
you go. That's Bobby and his music school class business.

(51:13):
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