Bobby talks to Jo Dee Messina who comes to us from her home in Georgia. Jo Dee talks about how life has taken her from Boston to Nashville to now settling down in Georgia while still touring the country. She talks about the early days of getting her record deal in Nashville with fellow label mate, Tim McGraw. Jo Dee also reveals the two songs that blocked her from landing No. 1’s songs in the 90’s for two of her signature songs. Jo Dee also talks about how she took a chance on having Rascal Flatts as her opening act back in the day and how it was seeing LeAnn Rimes career blow up so quickly because she was so talented. Bobby and Eddie also talk about songs that debuted at No. 1 on the Billboard Hot 100.
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Speaker 1 (00:06):
Welcome to episode three twenty. Jody Messina will be on
a little bit. She's got a bunch of number one
I mean some of the songs you'll know her from,
Bye By, Here you Go. I'm all right, heads Carolina
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tells California, California, California, lesson and leaving. He's gonna give
you a lesson and losing. She has an interesting story.
She moved to Nashville, wasn't really trying music. After she
moved here to try and musically got in a talent show.
We'll talk about that who she took out as an
opening act kind of as a flyer, and also her
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two major hits that weren't even number one. So Jody
has seen it coming up in a little bit. But first,
let's do our new music Top five, all right. At
number five, Walker Hayes has a new song called you Girl,
Here You Go. It's like me like girls like you Bill.
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So the question is, because this song is nothing country,
does he just now pursue pop? Is that what this? Mike? Yeah?
I think you follow it up. I think the same thing,
like I could see where fancy like because of the message,
because it was originally a song sent to country. It's
a country song. Some people would say, well, sonically it
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doesn't okay, we can go through all that that that
song and dance if you'd like, But the message of
it is still like, hey, we don't need to do
crazy fancy things to get along and have a good life.
This is not a country in no way whatsoever. So
how cool would it be if he couldn't make it
as a country artist but made it bigger as a
pop star. I mean, I could see it. That's a
different different if you can make it, that's a whole
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different to money too. Like, I hope it does well.
I'm interested to see what TikTok does as well. Meaning
since he's a TikTok artist, do they naturally support him,
because they have even said that there are certain songs
that if you use they will amplify those videos. So
is this one of the songs they choose to do
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that with since his first song was a TikTok song.
I would hope yes, I would think because there are
artists that we've over the years, not in the last
couple of years, because we've kind of got off that
train that we've discovered or broken and we kind of
stay with them, so but like no chance that he's
trying to make that a country song. I don't think
so okay, but that's Walker Hayes You girl my number
five Released this week at number four. Adele has a
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new song called easy on Me. That album comes out
November nine. Here is Adele Easy on Me in case
you haven't heard it yet. I was still a child.
You didn't get the chance to food around. I can't
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wait to hear a munch people butcher this song. You
hear the covers coming here, the covers coming. Oh No.
Before this song was out, we knew the name of it,
so I tried to guess what it would sound like.
Ya do we have that cluck? Here you go? Are
you easy on me? Wow? Do you love me too?
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Because you left? Now I'm sad and the thing? Did
I want you back? Are you easy on me? Boom
in the orchestra that played her version again? Same thing?
That's it? Play my version again? Are you easy on me?
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It's pretty good? Do you love me too? Because you left? Now?
I'm sad and the thing? Did I want you back?
Are you easy? It's pretty good? Number three Miranda Lambert
has a new song called if I was a cowboy.
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There's a new album from Coldplay. What's interesting to me
is they said a couple of years ago they weren't
gonna tour unless they could reduce their carbon footprint to zero.
So if you go to the show because they are
going to tour, they have a dance floor and as
you dance on the dance floor, it gives the stage
energy to create electricity. They're also bikes they're putting that
create electricity as well. You ride the bike while they're
performing wild pretty cool. If it works, it would just
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suck you. Prebody's lazy when you get there and not
Cold plays ready to play it, but there's no Nobody
wants to ride the bike and like, guys, come on,
we just let us do yellow. But they have a
new record today. I like Coldplay, and I say it
in the way that I know a lot of people
like to say they don't like Coldplay, But I like
cold Play. This is their ninth album. They have a
BTS feature Selena Gomez. Here is Let Somebody Go featuring
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Selena Gomez and Number one. Ryan Heard released his new
album Pulago. Here is a new song called The Knife
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or the Hatchet tell the Make It You. That's my vibe.
That kind of song I like cold Play with when
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I see those kind of songs too, orchestral Coldplay or
dance Coldplay, like the anthem stuff. Yeah, not my version
of Caldy. I still like Coldplay, but I like, you know,
a Russia blood of the head Coldplay, and they continue
to do that a little less and less each job on.
But I love that version of Coldplay. But I just
love sad songs. So those are my favorite five releases.
There are other albums that almost made the list. For example,
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Jason Isabel has Georgia Blue, but it's a cover album
of all artists from Georgia, and I think they're donating
the money, so that's pretty cool. Kelly Clarkson has a
Christmas album. We talked to her on the radio show
You Can Go Hear That, but Ariana Grande, Chris Stapleton,
Brett Eldridge all on that. So a lot of a
lot of a lot of music album you know, the
Casey Musgrave stories. Interesting. She's been deemed ineligible for the
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Country Album Grammy category. This is so good for her.
She doesn't need something for her career, but it's so
good for her career because everybody's talking about it. Nobody's
a fan of every everyone's it's hard to say this.
There's no artist that everyone's a fan of anymore. There's
no artist that everyone knows anymore. This is is keeping her.
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They're not even she may not even be nominated, but
now it's a controversy that she's not even allowed to
be known. It's not like she was nominated and they
said you can't be nominated. This is if the raging
idiots are dumb Comedy Duo put it and they were like, well,
you guys cannot be We should throw a fit because
that's what the press is coming for. This is just
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free press. Yeah. And and my thing on Twitter was,
as Forrest Gump said, but we modify it country as
his country does. If you claim to be country when
you put something out, it should be considered country. I
don't think you can be te pain and an award
season comes up and be like, my record was country.
But if you put it out and it's listed as
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country and the data is country, and it's you know,
when you go to Apple Music or Spotify or her
radio and it shows you it's a country, that's that
should be considered country. You chose that, and so I
think she's kind of getting screwed over here. But what's
great is all the free press she's getting for a
pretty good album. It wasn't gonna win anyway. My favorite
Casey album, like it, like it more than most every
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other album, but for her, I didn't feel like it
was what I was hoping for um. But hopefully now
she puts out her in your face country album next
everybody off like super country country. But I think I
think this is great for her because people are talking
about it. Randy Travis honored by Garth Brooks Kane Brown
as an Artist of the Lifetime at thet Artists of
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the Year. So Garth Brooks welcome Randy Travis to the stage.
Pretty cool to see. It's also cool to see all
the artists that still love Randy Travis. We just shot
a top five things you may not know about Randy
Travis the other day. Which is real name? It's not
Randy Travis, he has I think like three is an
odd name. Randy's real name. Then you went by Randy Ray.
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Then I think Merle Travis was one of his favorite artists,
so then he changed it to Randy Travis, but kind
of an an odd Randy Travis stories. When he was
a kid, he was in trouble a lot, and so
there was a in that owned a club who took
him and was like, okay. I went to the judge
and was like, I will be the person that's in
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charge of him. Don't put him in jail. And so
he was like a late teenager. Maybe he ended up
marrying her later they're divorced now, but ended up marrying her.
But yes, so many number one songs the think about this.
They asked me to host that show like three months ago.
CMT called said hey, would you host the c MT
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Artist of the Year. And I was like that's pretty cool.
I said, can I do jokes? Kind of? They were
like you do whatever you want and I was like,
you can let me write mow monologue, which would mean
I me and you wrote him monologue. Um deuce. They're like, yeah,
have at it. Had a conflict, had a contractual conflict
that didn't allow me to do it. I would have
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loved to have done it. I said yes to doing it,
and then I was then told I can't because of
another obligation that I have do it, so it was
very cool to be asked to do it, and I
was already writing bits in my head and but then
I wasn't able to do it. So they want with
no host. I was gonna I was gonna roast people too,
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in a good way. It's gonna be a good fun roast.
I was. I had it all played out of my head.
So super cool for them to ask, but I wasn't
able to do that. The cold Play story with the
dance floor with Electricity, um, we talked about that. Let's
see anything else. What's the Machine Gun Kelly story. He's
in a feud with the slip Knot. Why it started?
(10:30):
Who cares? Yeah, it started. They played the same festival
at the same time, and then he dipped him while
they were playing, made fun of him, and then the
lead singer of slip Knot released all these things with him,
like do any collaboration, so they basically hate each other.
He was mad because he asked the lead singer of
Slipknot to be on a song and he told him, hey,
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the song is not for me, but Machine Gun Kelly
made it seem like he didn't want him on his album. Oh,
Machine Kelly got hurt because he said no. Yeah, he
got hurt because he said no, because he's like, there's
a fit my vibe, not for me. Wow, I'm surprised
that someone from slip knot Wot's say no to Machine
Gun Kelly first of all, but good for it was him,
Corey Corey Taylor. Good for Corey Taylor for going you
know what, as much publicity is will probably give us,
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it's not for us. Yeah, so he didn't want to
do the verse. Pretty cool. What do you think about
Machiner Kelly? I like him that album that's totally my vibe,
like the pop punk vibe, Like that is like what
I grew up on. So I like his sound. Him
as a person, Yeah, weird as a person. Weird, but
at least it's consistent. Watching him climb a c l
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and hang off. Do you see him stick his legs
in that pole upside down? That's did he was he
attached anything? I don't think so that's stupid. Then I
think he just does that. That's stupid because that law
law of averages eventually gonna do enough time, something's gonna
happen to you. Yeah, all right, that's it. Um, we'll
talk to Jody Massina in a second, and we'll talk
about Billboard top hits that have debut at number one, right,
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like they entered the chart at number one, So we'll
do that. Um in a second, Jody, how are you?
I'm good? How are you? I'm good? So most of
these we do at my house because the person usually
lives right down the road. You are the outlier where
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you don't even live in Nashville, which I forgot. You
live in Georgia, right, So where like what talent are
you near? You don't have to say exactly where you live,
but where at are you in George? Are you over
Peachtree City? About its south of Atlanta? So when you
moved to Nashville did you move from I'm assuming that's
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where you grew up? And then when did you move back?
I drew from Boston, Massachusetts? You did? How in the
world did you home of country music? Yeah? How did
you end up in Georgia? Then? Of all places? It's
just a god thing. I really felt like he wanted
me to move here. I didn't know anyone at the time,
and I didn't have any family here. But I was like, Okay,
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if this is what you want, what was your move
to Nashville trip? Like, I mean, were you Oh my gosh,
just got out of high school and so I was
gonna move to Nashville and get a record deal. That
was my plan. I didn't realize it was everybody else's
plan as well. I just I was just I think
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I was so naive back then that it was beneficial
because I was singing in like clubs and restaurants and stuff.
I started when I was aboutteen or fourteen years old.
And so when I graduated high school, all my friends
went out of college, and I was like, well, I'm
wanted to do something about this career or um or
go to school, you know. So I finished out the
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gigs that I had left on the books, and my
brother drove me down to Nashville and left me there
to find my way. And I was like, Okay, I'm
gonna get a record deal. But I didn't have a clue.
But that's why everyone else was in town. White gay
were you doing, you know, before you moved to Nashville.
Were you doing just covers? Were you singing country music? Like?
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Because to me, Boston now is a massive country music market.
I'm up there a lot of my shows on Boston.
But what was Boston like back when you were a kid.
There was not a lot of country music up there.
People thought I was crazy. My friends thought I was weird.
There was one station and you could get it at
certain times a day, and then it didn't come in,
you know, during the major parts of the day. But um,
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I relied on a lot of records and cassettes back then.
Did your family think that you were nuts for moving
to Nashville, Tennessee from Boston to pursue something that it's
really hard to be, uh, even to make a consistent
paycheck in at that time. I mean, we didn't know.
We just knew. Um, Nashville wasn't what it is today.
It was you know, you could walk down Music Row
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and you know, actually crossed the street with no traffic.
There was sidewalks in all the little publishing houses where
our little houses, and um, you know, my mom just
was like, Okay, you know this is what you want
to do. I trust you. And my dad was like,
you did to get a real job? Did you get
a real job like a lot of folks have to
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do when you moved to Nashville? I did. I didn't
sing for the first two years that I was there, Um,
I had a job as a bartender, which was really
bad because I never drank anything in my life, so
I didn't know what was what. I didn't last long.
Um I did some accounting and data entry, and it's
when I started entering talent contests down there for money.
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Is when I started to actually get out and sing.
So you moved down here to sing? But again, why
did it take you so long to actually hop out
and do these talent contests or anything for that matter. Well,
then there was not the like Broadway like it is now.
Broadway had like maybe one gig, you know. There was
not a lot of places to play around town, which
seems ironic because it's music city. But for a newcomer,
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you just had to wait for the open mic nights,
so the contests and things like that. So um, the
first couple of years, it was really just trying to
keep a roof over my head and and get to
know people. And I was pretty much kept to myself,
so that was it was. It was a strange time.
I guess what year was that when you moved to Nashville,
kindy or maybe no ninety it was, Yeah, it's funny
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that you bartended and you haven't had a drink of alcohol.
I also have never had a drink of alcohol, and
I tried to think of myself, I have now, but
at that age I didn't. Well, I still I haven't now,
and I wouldn't know what the crap I was doing.
I would just have to read it off a book
and be like, Okay, I think this is it, because
I wouldn't even taste it to make sure they did.
They had the little index where you could look up stuff,
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but I didn't know what color they were. Someone would say, oh,
it's all the don't don't quote me, everybody. I have
no clue about mixed drinks, but all the all the
all the clear liquor or all the dark liquor or.
And I was like, okay, what's the different it's with?
You know, I was just totally blind to all that.
I was clueless. My drinks must have been horrible. So
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you're working, you're you're entering these talent contests. You win
or you finish, you know enough to be in the money,
and so to suddenly come up to you, you did
they come to you and well, you just won? You
should actually like try this somehow. No. So what happened
from that point on is I won five dollars, which
is like huge, it's all my monthly. My bills were
for like a month and a half and so um.
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Along with the money, I got a chance to perform
at a radio show, a live radio show. So I
went up there and I performed on the live radio show,
and then they kept asking to have me back, and
so I became a regular on the radio show every
Saturday night. It was called Live at Livy's. It was
out of Daysville, Kentucky, snowhere around anymore, but that's where
my producer, Byron Gallimore, heard me and called the steakhouse
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where it was, you know, broadcast from, and he was like, hey,
you know, I'd love to talk to you about putting
a demo together. So so he heard you saying on
the radio you were performing from my steakhouse, called the
steakhouse to get in touch with you. Or did he
actually talk to you through the steakhouse phone. I think
I talked to him on the phone. I got his number,
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I got his name. I had been promised so much
by so many people. I threw it out and then
I went home to see my family. Now, that was
the first time I had gone home for Christmas, and
so I went on to see my family. That's all
I cared about. And Um. I went back Massachusetts for
a couple of weeks, then came back to Esheville and
I was like, maybe I should go. I guess should
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give that guy a call. So I researched. You know,
he said he worked at Pride Music Publishing. Um So
I called there and was like, hey, some guy called
me before the holidays and they're like, oh, that was
Byron so Um. Then I met with him and he
talked about a plan on putting a demo together. He
was working with a kid named Tim McGraw who had
a deal. Um he had a song called Welcome to
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the Club at the time, anyone even remembers that song.
But um, so he's working with this kid that just
got a record deal, and I thought, okay, maybe he's legit.
And so you guys start working together, and do you
start recording immediately or does he have you going out
and pursuing rights or listening to songs? How does it
work before you actually make a record? Oh? Man? Um?
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And how long we had done a couple of showcases
for people, and we're getting feedback. Remember I grew up
singing live, so that was my that's my comfort zone.
It's like to be on the stage, and that's I'm
more comfortable there than in the studio because I don't
like the sound of my my voice coming back in
my ears, you know. I'm sure when you first started
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recording your voice and then you heard it back, You're like,
I don't sound like that. So I was more comfortable
on the stage that we had done a few UM
showcases for and writers got ideas and would start pitching
songs UM for project. And it took a long time
to a couple of years maybe to put the project
together there because they were after that McGraw had Oh gosh,
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get in Allah and then Uh, don't take the Girl,
I think was right after that, and that's when everything
started getting crazy. So our opportunities to get in the
studio we're getting you know, pushed back a little bit
because they were just crazy busy, and so that's what
the time process was, UM and what the delay was
in that whole situation. Your first number one here is
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Bye Bye Marriage. So was this your first single or
was it your first single that went number one? Did
you have one before this? It didn't. We're just gonna
love this one. One of my teammates, Um, my first
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single was head to Carolina Tales California, which is which
is bizarre get around by Maria. I was gonna talk
about that. That's the wildest song to never go number one.
Head's Carolina tells California like I can't did on some charts,
like the smaller charts, but Billboard and I think are
and are It's set behind my Maria forever. That is
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just some bad luck that two of the biggest country
songs of all time are on the chart at the
exact same time. They just want to kick Ronnie and
Kicks in the ship and be like, hey guys, come on,
let me hop up there. They were my first major tour,
so no I learned a lot from them touring with them,
and they were just so kind to me, and the
crew was kind to me, and they they gave everybody
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the speech, you know when we first started, like whatever
whatever they need, you know, to see to it that
they haven't take care of them and we were just
spoiled rotten on their tour, so no, but we did
have bad luck or not bad luck, but we did
have that same luck again with Lesson and Leavin and
that song that's for a few years after that. Who
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sat at number one? That time does star Baby Amazed?
Eight weeks? Eight weeks we were at number one and two.
That's crazy. So let me rewind for a second. So
heads Carolina tells California, um, which we still play on
our show, because I mean, that song just transcends every
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form of music, every form of it doesn't matter. It's
such a good song that thank you? Was that your
first ever single? And if so, it must have felt
like a rocket ship. Well here's the deal. We were
done with the album and Tim Nichols, who's one of
the writers on there, had called me and said, because
he saw me at a showcase and he's seen me
around town singing and um, he called me and said, hey,
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I wrote this song and I was wondering if you
would listen to it. I'm like, dude, we're done, we're
done with the record finally, And he's like, please, let
me just leave it in your mailbox, listen to it
and then let me know what you think. And so
he did. He lifted the Mailbox and I was like, man,
this song is really catchy. I love the chorus. I'm
not crazy about the opening two lines, but I'm going
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to play it for my producers. And I played it
for my producers and are like which is Byron Gallimore
and to McGrath, and they were like, oh, man, we
gotta cut this. And I was like, yeah, but I
don't like the first couple of lines, and so they're like, well,
ask him to change it, and I was like okay.
So they did. The only studio time that was available
then was on the fourth of July, so we actually
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cut it the fourth of July before it was released.
And so as you cut it, were you already this
is a single? Like in your mind? Were you cutting
it to be a single? Are you cutting it just
to get it on the record and see what would happen?
We're cutting it to get it on the record. And
then as soon as we passed the record in. As
soon as we passed it in, there like okay, this
would be the first single. Do you remember what the
lines were that were changed? We stood have known it
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the day they cut that paper mill down or shut
the paper mill down. Sorry, there'd be no future for us,
no more in our little town. I've got people in Austin.
Ain't your daddy still in the morn? And I was like, oh,
and can we change Austin to Boston? People in Boston?
And so yeah, so that peaks at two and then
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you okay, So then Bye Bye comes out? And did
you feel like a little bit because Bye Bye again
such a great song? Did you feel like a little
bit that the chart? The chart people felt like, Okay,
we need to make because she got such a raw
deal with heads Carolina tells California, we need to make
sure there's nothing else in the way with this one.
I don't think they were aware. I think it was
just the song itself. Um, I saw they pitched Emi
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pitched it to me. It was a phil of Asters
song and they I loved it as soon as we
heard it. And so and that one that I had
a different first line to the opening line for that
was a girly you sure look pretty. They're standing in
the doorway in the sunset light. And when I sing
and it's like, boy, you sure look good. They're standing
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in the doorway. And I remember before we cut it,
Phil Bash was like, it's not a song or a girl,
it's a guy's song. And so he still says that today,
he's like, that's not a girls song. That was written
for a guy. So but we we love each other.
But he's yeah, we got Bye Bye that came out
and then I'm all right, yeah, same year, I'm all right,
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here's here's the clip of I'm all right, clown and
so I guess something new and all right. So when
I'm looking back, it just kind of the timeline. So
heads Carolina tells California comes out crushes, but stays it too,
You're not in Kansas anymore followed that, now I'm still
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a top ten songs to be fair, but still a
top ten song. How many singles were on that that
first record? Though? Was that the one they released? It
makes something of it? Was that on that album and
then he'd never maybe maybe before, because I remember we
were trying to buy time to get to the next album,
and so we were to complete the record and that
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was a process back then because you had to go around,
um listen to the songs, and then you had to
um put a playlist together, bring it to the producers,
then go through it. That cast out the things they
didn't like to bring it to the label. The label
would cast out things that they didn't like. Then they
came down to a small list and then they'd play
it for friends and see who, you know, who liked
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it and what people thought. And it took forever. It
took forever to make a record. Well, when that second
record comes out, quite the year because you also had
stand Beside Me, which was a number one song as well.
Yes it is written by a man. And here you go,
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so you gotta be feeling pretty good. You've got three
number ones in a row here, and at this point,
are you headlining the big shows? Now? Um, we didn't
start head landing until like we were kept being an
opening act and opening act, and then they're like, okay,
you're gonna have to step out on your own. And
so we started to step out on our own. And
there was a new group that was out and I
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loved them, and I was like, oh my gosh, they
have to be my opening and we have to find
out how to get them. And people like, oh, they're
not gonna last. You know, they are a bunch of young,
you know, pretty boys, and they're not gonna last. And
you don't want them on tour with you. And I
was like, oh, but I love them so much. And
that wasn't the beginning of or two thousand, because two
thousand where we took Rascal Flats out with us and
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they for us. For me twenty three years ago, I'm
all right, came out you landed your first number one
twenty three years ago. This year that when it hits
number one after you know, three or four songs that didn't,
was it a relief, like, Hey, I finally arrived, like
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this second record, we knew, we leveled up, and like
I have a number one, so it's game time. Did
it feel like that at all? I never really had
that mentality. I think my mentality was always one of gratitude.
And when then you're in the midst of it, you're
trying to keep up, like you have a number one song,
it's like, oh my gosh, how's the next we're gonna do? Okay,
We're gonna work really hard, We're gonna make it happen.
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We're gonna you know. It was like constantly fast moving everywhere,
going everywhere and to all the radio stations and to
you know, to do all the like you know, will
you come play for our lunch or will you come
play at this small or would you We were just
chasing it constantly and so and then you look at
the award shows. I told someone this the other day.
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I don't think people realize this, but you know, my
songs were things that I wish that I could say,
like I want a man a stand beside me, not
in front of them behind me, because for some reason
I had a tendency to date jerks, and so I
love that song because it was like the strong woman
I wish I was, and the same with the same
thing and bye bye or I'm all right or all
those songs. So the reason why people gravitated towards those
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songs was the same reason that I gravitated towards them all,
like man, I wish that was really my heart. So
you take all those songs that did well on the
chart you throw in award shows. I remember people because
they're very tough songs. But I wasn't tough. I was
like really insecure, and I'm like I'm so ugly and
I'm so gross, And so you put me into a
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dressing room at an award show with Faith Hill and
Martina McBride and Sarah Evans and Tries, and I sat
in a corner I would put my I'm like, I
did not even deal worthy to be in the presence
of those girls. But due to the strong songs and
all the lyrics, everybody thought, oh my gosh, look how
stuck up she is. And I'm like really going, oh
my gosh, I can't get too close to you, like
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you're so beautiful like it, I don't. I can't even
exist in your presence. So I would hide in a
corner at the award shows, I just hide out. So
I never really all that to say. I never really
reached that hey I'm there, I'm so cool, I got this,
I'm a big deal. I always felt grateful to be
there and like, oh my gosh, I get to believe
I'm she are in a dressing room with my dad.
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For me, you know, a lot of it comes back
to c MT and back in the nineties and early
two thousand's and seeing you in a music video seemingly constantly.
You know, it was like you you seem to always
have a big music video on. You know, I've had
It's pretty cool to just be in random places and
even restaurants. Here yourself pop up on TV as on
a music video. Um, yeah, and then you start to
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sync down in your chair like, oh, nobody realizes that's me.
Maybe you had a restaurant. But speaking of videos and
number one songs and etcetera. We so that my first
headline tour was the The Burnt album. Off that album
came Bring On the Rain. Bring On the Rain, Um
was already out for a while. People had already heard
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Ring on the Rain, and they kind of threw that
out there as a single to buy time for the
next record, you know, to just kind of buy some
time at radio and try to keep us out there
while we're making a new album. Well, dang, that thing shipped.
You know what ships like two weeks or used to
ship like two weeks before it's ad date. The ad
date was September ten, and so we were going for
ads on Monday. Then September eleventh happened, and so and
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this is all going back to your video, your point
them out the video. But we were gonna do a
video because we're like, we gotta stay present, we gotta
stay out there. But we didn't have a treatment and
we didn't know what to do the video on. And
so right after September eleven, people were suggesting, you know, oh,
you gotta make it about the Twin Towers. It has
to be about you know, September eleven. That has to
And I said, wait a minute. This song has been
out there for a while. People already have their own
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story behind it, and so they're like, yes, but everybody's
doing you know, September eleventh and patriotic and American, and
I was like, I felt really uncomfortable trying to take
that song and make it about such a tragedy because
that's not why it was written in the first place.
And so if you ever watched that video, there's no
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story depicted, no watch to bring on the rain video.
I'm doing nothing but sitting and freezing cold water singing
a song. Yeah that's interesting, because you know, I'm just
looking at kind of the timeline to two thousand one.
I mean, the song goes number one in two thousand one,
but it was a September ship date. I mean, everybody
was lost for for obvious reasons, just creatively, everybody was
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lost everywhere all the time. I mean that again, it
was an odd time to be a performer. And already
have something out there, and that's kind of weird they
would ask you to change that even though people already
had a already had the song and knew what it
was about, and they had their story like, oh, my
mom was suffering with cancer and this song helped me
get through it. Or my brother, you know, I lost
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my brother in a car accident and this song helped
me get through it. Or I've just been going through
depression and this song helped me through it. So they
already had what that song meant to them, and I
was like, I can't take that from them, and just
didn't seem right. I do want to talk about your
live shows for a second. Um recently, I was playing
a show in which Talk Kansas and they were, you know,
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probably three thousand people. There was a good show and
a good night and one of my one of the
people on our radio show is a big fan of yours,
and she wanted to come out and she wanted to
sing Heads Carolina, and so she comes out and she's
singing and it's a big moment for her. But what
I can remember is everybody's singing so loud over the
top of her because that song is so beloved, Like
I have to imagine that when you sing it, you
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can almost just say the first couple of words and
everybody else just takes it away because it's it's so
known and so loved. We have the in ears, so
that helps me to hear my vocal. But then we
also record out front, and we also sometimes will video
to see, you know, how things are placed on stage
and how things are working. I always laugh and I
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talked to the front of house guy. I'm like, I
don't even know what you're doing, Like you can't hear
the speakers, like it's the heads Caroline, it's lesson and leaving,
it's bye bye, it stand beside me, it's I mean,
there's so many songs that are so even Bring on
the Rain, it's like they you start the intro with
the guitar, you get off into Tomorrow's Another Day, unthirsty anyway,
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and then you can just stop singing. Then it's so loud.
You're you're touring now. You get tickets at Jody Messina
dot com because again, you have so many big songs,
and I don't want you to spoil the whole set
list here anything, but what in the world do you
start with, Oh mean, it depends on the show and
the length of time the show is. So if we
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are on a big festival and they give us a
shorter time slot, and these days I'm going on in
front of a bunch of guys, we just go out
and slamming. We hit the ground running up tempo, slamming
rock and rock and rock and rock and rock, and
thank you good night, because we don't want to bring
the crowd down again. Remember I grew up singing live,
so I always had to win the crowd over when
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I was little, because when I was fourteen and fifteen,
I was playing, and you know, restaurants and bars they
could care less like drink and mingle. They weren't there
to listen to music. So I try to design that
to just be right to the point. It's a set
of number one songs. You guys can check Jody out
Jody Messina dot com. She's I got shows all the way.
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I mean, heck, do you have shows until July of
next year. I'll say this about you too. You performed
on our radio show and you are so good, like
just vocally, just so pure. And we still talk about
how you came in and you started singing, and we're like, well,
she still sounds maybe even better than we remember. I
sound like the record. Um, I think it would just
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sing all the time, you know. It's I don't just
sing when I'm on stage. I sing at the grocery store.
I sing at you know, my kids school, or I'm
always singing or whistling or it's so it's never something
that I get time off from. UM and I love it.
And when I'm home, like you you know me, I
relate in my relationship with Jesus. Like this Sunday, We're
having a huge worship night at my house, so I'm
(35:55):
leading a bunch of people all night. So I'm singing
for hours on Sunday. And then I'm singing well the
thing leading up to it, and I'm just right and
I'm writing, so I'm singing well doing that. So I'm
just constantly, constantly standing. I hope you guys go check
out Jody on Instagram at Jody Messina and then again
she's on tour Jody Messina dot com. I'll end with
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this because you know it's just wild. I think one
of the clips that I am cutting from this, not
not cutting, but highlighting like taking out and highlighting is
the fact that two of your biggest songs we're at
two because two of the other biggest songs of all
time as well just happened to be out at the
same time. But it's just a wild story that Lesson
and Leaving and Heads Carolina were both number two songs.
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Because as far as country music goes, like if you
were to make that list of biggest country music songs
of all time, like the top hundred, like they'd be
in in those charts, those categories, those shows that were made,
and so the timing of that pretty terrible. But as
you're an artist and you're you're established, and you start
to see new artists come about, and I think about
this because you mentioned Rascal Flats and I think of
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a Luke Combs now, uh, Sam Hunt at one point,
Morgan Wall and artists they show up and just like
smash and it's like wow, here they come there like
a locomotion. They're they're so big, so quick. Who did
you see? What you know? In the late nineties early
two thousands, and Rascal Flasks can be one example where
they where you were like, holy crap, they're so good
and they're getting so big, so fast rhymes. It was
(37:25):
a constom battle at the label because we were on
the same label and be like, oh, she's got another
record coming out, We're gonna push your single back. She
was another record out and it was huge. It was
like huge, you couldn't even keep up with it never
I mean it was huge at the time. And she
was also sixteen. When she was fourteen. Yeah, well, Jody,
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you are the best. Thank you for spending a little
time with me. And if you hang if you guys
can go see Jody on tour, I highly recommend it.
Thank you, and I hope you have an awesome rest
of the day and hopefully I see in person soon,
I hope. So take care of Bobby, Bye bye bye.
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So I have a list here of Billboards top hits
that have debuted at number one, meaning these are the
songs that, as soon as they were out high promotion
are to support it went immediately to number one. Got
it rare. Only fifty seven songs have debuted on the
top of the Billboard Hot one hundred out of more
than number one songs. Okay, okay, I'm starting to think, like,
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what could these songs be? Right, here are your top
top ones number one. The day was September two. Okay,
he was the first ever to accomplish this when this
song debuted at number one here playlist. I love this
Michael Jackson song, and it never gets credit for being
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one of the great Michael Jackson songs. I wouldn't even
put it in on top five. I forgot about you
put it in top ten now that I heard it.
Of course, I loved you or Not alone. Mariah Carey
Fantasy number two. This is the roller Coaster video, right
like this? That one, isn't it from the roller Coaster?
Singing Whitney Houston XHL Shoot Shoot, Shoot Shot. This was
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from that movie Waiting to Excel. Right, Oh yeah. There
were the number four and these are all the biggest
songs to debut at number one. Mariah Carrying Boys, two
Men One, Sweet Day was number one forever It's it
was number one at stage number one. I felt bad
for any song that came. I tried to be number
one during like a three month period. Three months, Mike Man,
look and see how long that song was number one,
But I'm gonna guess it was over twelve weeks. You're right,
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because they can't predict that like other artists trying to plan,
like all right, we're gonna put our song here. Three months,
I bet it was over that. Wow. I would bet
that it could have been as much as six months.
That's crazy. I remember the video coming out and I thought,
I cannot believe these two artists are to get that's
the greatest thing ever. You thought that sixteen weeks, so
four months unbelievable. The song was number one. Puff Daddy
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and Faith Evans don't play the clup yet? What song
puff Daddy and Faith epens? I don't even know if
Faith Evans is you don't. I mean, the only Puff
Daddy I'm thinking is with Biggy, But what's about Biggie?
It was about big every breath, every breath missing, same song,
same sampaig Dad. What I'm gonna say. Mariah Carey Honey
(40:31):
debut at number one, Mariah carry killing it. Yeah. I
think she gets lost in the mix of greatest pop
stars of all times, but she definitely is one of them.
Like if you had a mount rushmore of pop stars,
I think Mariah Carey, I think you put Taylor Swift
on there? Now? Is it? Maybe because she's diva? Like,
(40:51):
do people in the industry not like her so much
that you have pop that doesn't matter? Yeah, because you're right, well,
you don't put Mariah Carry up there. I don't know.
Mariah Carey comes up to my mind when I think Christmas,
and that's it. What do you think about think of
Mariah Carry, Mike? I mean I think of the nineties,
these songs, and then mainly for her being married to
NIW Cannon. Nick Cannon comes to mind. I mean I
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think of Tommy Mattola more than I think of Nick Cannon.
She was young. That was our first husband who was
running Sony at the time. Candle in the Wind from
Melton John to me, like, can Selene Dion My Heart
Will go On? There's a two movie Wins in a Row,
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No Candle in the Winter. Marilyn Monroe slashed Princess Dot.
Oh is that right? Right? The first time it was written,
it was Marilyn Monroe in mind, and then he kind
of changed a little bit for Princess Dot. Really didn't
know that Selene Dion My Heart Will go On is Titanic? Yeah?
Another movie one though, is Aerosmith. I don't want to
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miss a thing, and they're only number one on the
Billboard Crazy Rock Legends Lauren Hill do Wop. I'm gonna
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play you this one, but I'm not going to tell
you who it is. This one debut at number one,
D three, number one with a bullet. Here you go
this Wendy to All My dream It sounds like a
praise and worship song. Now it doesn't any yes? Is
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it not? No? Who is this? Is it a praise
and worship artist? I have no idea who this is.
I don't think I've ever heard this song on my life.
It was a debut single for this person after they
won American Idol. Oh Clay Acing Clay Akin? What's that
(43:01):
guy doing? Now? Are you still singing? I don't try
to run for rof its. North Carolina didn't win that.
I don't know. Okay, see if you can name this
number one from two thousand four? Ye ever heard that? That?
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Macy Gray? No bit of vocal texture the same. It's
American Idol Fantasia single after winning American Idol. People forget
the cultural impact American Idol used to have. Just everybody,
all the time. Carrie Underwood number thirteen, I'm going to
Inside Your Heaven American idol. See if you can name
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this one two thousand six. Okay, this is the next
time the one debut a go ahead, Yeah for sure,
it's Daughtry. Now it's Taylor Hicks. I've or he want American.
So look at that. We have four in a row
number one, two thousand three, four or five and six,
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the only ones those years to debut at number one.
Fantasia carry Taylor Hicks and uh Clay Can. But going
with your whole thing of like hype and everything that
this was the ultimate hype because the game show was
leading up to these these singles. They'd sing it at
the end when they won. Yeah, and what did they win?
A record deal? Yeah, big one for like a year,
(44:26):
a full deal. That it's not a record deal is
only short. If you suck, they can cut you. But
they assign it to like so you have them so
many records, got it. It used to be record name management.
It used to be, you know, quite sicky. Now not
so much because they know people won't come on the
show anymore if you owe them your whole life when
it's over. Back when the show first started, I think
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you gave me your middle name. You know, the first
three kids is a whole deal. Britney Spears number three.
This is the name of the song two thousand nine.
I remember that song but heard at the club? Is
the club? Come on, man, Eminem not afraid Kesha. We
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are who we are. Kesha has a new show coming
out where she goes and hunts and ghosts, and about
three weeks or so, they said, hey, Kesha wants you
to come and shoot this show with her. And I
was like, Kesha wants me to come shoot a show
(45:30):
with her. They're like, she goes and she goes to
these haunted I have no interest. It's not about Kesha. Yes,
you don't want me to fly out to San Francisco
and like go stand some jail overnight or something with her? Kesha? Yeah,
that'd be great on her show. See, that's the whole thing.
This would be like for your career. Man, Kesha's creepies
or something. Do you have a story about that, Mike?
There is Kesha will explore haunted places in a Discovery
(45:55):
Plus series called Conjuring Kesha. Okay, that's what it is.
That's what it is. What do you do? What are
you even thinking about it? You already said, already said no, No,
what are you doing zero? First of all, no, second
of all no, and third of all, I don't want
to do that. It's not about kesh It, it's not
about you know, you just don't want. I don't want
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to go and spend the night in a jail in
San Francisco. Would go in ghosts? Then why aren't you
there the whole experience? He doesn't. It's I don't know.
I just said no. It was an easy man. I
want to said, he has no heart beat. I like Kesha.
I think I've only member once. I don't know where,
but I like like like we were on a flight
with Kesha. That was crazy. We were yeah to Vegas
and she was sitting about three rows in front of us.
You remember this, Yeah, now that you say that she
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in first class and we weren't. I know it was Southwest,
so there was no first class. I remember because I wasn't.
I wasn't saying in the first class sea when Kesha
was on a plane. Um, all right, but would you
have done that show, Mike? Yeah? Right? Why not? Also?
The timing was weird. But mostly it's about ghosts now
making every other excuse because you guys are shaming me,
Brittney spears, holding against me, speeding. It's good, escape the
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clos that's the club right there. The song starts to
get a little worse, so I should go down the list.
Don't like songs that aren't lasting that long. What was
Britney's song that was like if you see Amy? Oh,
if you seek games, if you seek amy? Did you
and that's what it was? Did you get it? No?
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If you seek Amy was the name of the song
that says the play on play it, yes, if you
seek me? Oh, that's the radio should be playing if
you seek Amy? And we're just idiots. I see you
guys are singing it there the whole time. Remember this,
pull it up? How long? When did it come out? Though?
That that's what it meant. No, you knew what media
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you did? I would. I would have sang this for
years without knowing it. Brain. I just wanted to the
padish kind somebody take me you WHOA. All the boys
(48:08):
and all the girls are begging into fuc that's crazy
and radio played it like that's crazy. I had no idea.
Now I can find a million dollars for something to
happen to do with anything that was like Gaga would
poker face. Wait, what what's that? There was in that
little in the sample she used right, yeah, said ever
face yea, and only one radio station caught it was
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kiss in Los Angeles. Dang, and she knows the whole time,
so they're probably like speaking of Lady Gaga. Born this Way,
baby to number one, two eleven. Okay, this is a
good one that's lasted. This is this one's been strong track.
Baby was born this Way. And then Katy Perry has
one part of me here. I don't know that one.
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I don't either. She was just such a massive star
for a while that anything she put out would show up. Okay,
that's it. Thank you all, Eddie, thank you, Thanks you guys.
To check out the award winning losing Yes, I love that,
the award winning. We won an award last week.
Welcome to episode three twenty. Jody Messina will be on
a little bit. She's got a bunch of number one
I mean some of the songs you'll know her from,
Bye By, Here you Go. I'm all right, heads Carolina
(00:29):
tells California, California, California, lesson and leaving. He's gonna give
you a lesson and losing. She has an interesting story.
She moved to Nashville, wasn't really trying music. After she
moved here to try and musically got in a talent show.
We'll talk about that who she took out as an
opening act kind of as a flyer, and also her
(00:51):
two major hits that weren't even number one. So Jody
has seen it coming up in a little bit. But first,
let's do our new music Top five, all right. At
number five, Walker Hayes has a new song called you Girl,
Here You Go. It's like me like girls like you Bill.
(01:15):
So the question is, because this song is nothing country,
does he just now pursue pop? Is that what this? Mike? Yeah?
I think you follow it up. I think the same thing,
like I could see where fancy like because of the message,
because it was originally a song sent to country. It's
a country song. Some people would say, well, sonically it
(01:36):
doesn't okay, we can go through all that that that
song and dance if you'd like, But the message of
it is still like, hey, we don't need to do
crazy fancy things to get along and have a good life.
This is not a country in no way whatsoever. So
how cool would it be if he couldn't make it
as a country artist but made it bigger as a
pop star. I mean, I could see it. That's a
different different if you can make it, that's a whole
(01:59):
different to money too. Like, I hope it does well.
I'm interested to see what TikTok does as well. Meaning
since he's a TikTok artist, do they naturally support him,
because they have even said that there are certain songs
that if you use they will amplify those videos. So
is this one of the songs they choose to do
(02:20):
that with since his first song was a TikTok song.
I would hope yes, I would think because there are
artists that we've over the years, not in the last
couple of years, because we've kind of got off that
train that we've discovered or broken and we kind of
stay with them, so but like no chance that he's
trying to make that a country song. I don't think
so okay, but that's Walker Hayes You girl my number
five Released this week at number four. Adele has a
(02:43):
new song called easy on Me. That album comes out
November nine. Here is Adele Easy on Me in case
you haven't heard it yet. I was still a child.
You didn't get the chance to food around. I can't
(03:09):
wait to hear a munch people butcher this song. You
hear the covers coming here, the covers coming. Oh No.
Before this song was out, we knew the name of it,
so I tried to guess what it would sound like.
Ya do we have that cluck? Here you go? Are
you easy on me? Wow? Do you love me too?
(03:30):
Because you left? Now I'm sad and the thing? Did
I want you back? Are you easy on me? Boom
in the orchestra that played her version again? Same thing?
That's it? Play my version again? Are you easy on me?
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It's pretty good? Do you love me too? Because you left? Now?
I'm sad and the thing? Did I want you back?
Are you easy? It's pretty good? Number three Miranda Lambert
has a new song called if I was a cowboy.
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There's a new album from Coldplay. What's interesting to me
is they said a couple of years ago they weren't
gonna tour unless they could reduce their carbon footprint to zero.
So if you go to the show because they are
going to tour, they have a dance floor and as
you dance on the dance floor, it gives the stage
energy to create electricity. They're also bikes they're putting that
create electricity as well. You ride the bike while they're
performing wild pretty cool. If it works, it would just
(04:46):
suck you. Prebody's lazy when you get there and not
Cold plays ready to play it, but there's no Nobody
wants to ride the bike and like, guys, come on,
we just let us do yellow. But they have a
new record today. I like Coldplay, and I say it
in the way that I know a lot of people
like to say they don't like Coldplay, But I like
cold Play. This is their ninth album. They have a
BTS feature Selena Gomez. Here is Let Somebody Go featuring
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Selena Gomez and Number one. Ryan Heard released his new
album Pulago. Here is a new song called The Knife
(05:30):
or the Hatchet tell the Make It You. That's my vibe.
That kind of song I like cold Play with when
(05:53):
I see those kind of songs too, orchestral Coldplay or
dance Coldplay, like the anthem stuff. Yeah, not my version
of Caldy. I still like Coldplay, but I like, you know,
a Russia blood of the head Coldplay, and they continue
to do that a little less and less each job on.
But I love that version of Coldplay. But I just
love sad songs. So those are my favorite five releases.
There are other albums that almost made the list. For example,
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Jason Isabel has Georgia Blue, but it's a cover album
of all artists from Georgia, and I think they're donating
the money, so that's pretty cool. Kelly Clarkson has a
Christmas album. We talked to her on the radio show
You Can Go Hear That, but Ariana Grande, Chris Stapleton,
Brett Eldridge all on that. So a lot of a
lot of a lot of music album you know, the
Casey Musgrave stories. Interesting. She's been deemed ineligible for the
(06:38):
Country Album Grammy category. This is so good for her.
She doesn't need something for her career, but it's so
good for her career because everybody's talking about it. Nobody's
a fan of every everyone's it's hard to say this.
There's no artist that everyone's a fan of anymore. There's
no artist that everyone knows anymore. This is is keeping her.
(07:00):
They're not even she may not even be nominated, but
now it's a controversy that she's not even allowed to
be known. It's not like she was nominated and they
said you can't be nominated. This is if the raging
idiots are dumb Comedy Duo put it and they were like, well,
you guys cannot be We should throw a fit because
that's what the press is coming for. This is just
(07:21):
free press. Yeah. And and my thing on Twitter was,
as Forrest Gump said, but we modify it country as
his country does. If you claim to be country when
you put something out, it should be considered country. I
don't think you can be te pain and an award
season comes up and be like, my record was country.
But if you put it out and it's listed as
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country and the data is country, and it's you know,
when you go to Apple Music or Spotify or her
radio and it shows you it's a country, that's that
should be considered country. You chose that, and so I
think she's kind of getting screwed over here. But what's
great is all the free press she's getting for a
pretty good album. It wasn't gonna win anyway. My favorite
Casey album, like it, like it more than most every
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other album, but for her, I didn't feel like it
was what I was hoping for um. But hopefully now
she puts out her in your face country album next
everybody off like super country country. But I think I
think this is great for her because people are talking
about it. Randy Travis honored by Garth Brooks Kane Brown
as an Artist of the Lifetime at thet Artists of
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the Year. So Garth Brooks welcome Randy Travis to the stage.
Pretty cool to see. It's also cool to see all
the artists that still love Randy Travis. We just shot
a top five things you may not know about Randy
Travis the other day. Which is real name? It's not
Randy Travis, he has I think like three is an
odd name. Randy's real name. Then you went by Randy Ray.
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Then I think Merle Travis was one of his favorite artists,
so then he changed it to Randy Travis, but kind
of an an odd Randy Travis stories. When he was
a kid, he was in trouble a lot, and so
there was a in that owned a club who took
him and was like, okay. I went to the judge
and was like, I will be the person that's in
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charge of him. Don't put him in jail. And so
he was like a late teenager. Maybe he ended up
marrying her later they're divorced now, but ended up marrying her.
But yes, so many number one songs the think about this.
They asked me to host that show like three months ago.
CMT called said hey, would you host the c MT
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Artist of the Year. And I was like that's pretty cool.
I said, can I do jokes? Kind of? They were
like you do whatever you want and I was like,
you can let me write mow monologue, which would mean
I me and you wrote him monologue. Um deuce. They're like, yeah,
have at it. Had a conflict, had a contractual conflict
that didn't allow me to do it. I would have
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loved to have done it. I said yes to doing it,
and then I was then told I can't because of
another obligation that I have do it, so it was
very cool to be asked to do it, and I
was already writing bits in my head and but then
I wasn't able to do it. So they want with
no host. I was gonna I was gonna roast people too,
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in a good way. It's gonna be a good fun roast.
I was. I had it all played out of my head.
So super cool for them to ask, but I wasn't
able to do that. The cold Play story with the
dance floor with Electricity, um, we talked about that. Let's
see anything else. What's the Machine Gun Kelly story. He's
in a feud with the slip Knot. Why it started?
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Who cares? Yeah, it started. They played the same festival
at the same time, and then he dipped him while
they were playing, made fun of him, and then the
lead singer of slip Knot released all these things with him,
like do any collaboration, so they basically hate each other.
He was mad because he asked the lead singer of
Slipknot to be on a song and he told him, hey,
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the song is not for me, but Machine Gun Kelly
made it seem like he didn't want him on his album. Oh,
Machine Kelly got hurt because he said no. Yeah, he
got hurt because he said no, because he's like, there's
a fit my vibe, not for me. Wow, I'm surprised
that someone from slip knot Wot's say no to Machine
Gun Kelly first of all, but good for it was him,
Corey Corey Taylor. Good for Corey Taylor for going you
know what, as much publicity is will probably give us,
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it's not for us. Yeah, so he didn't want to
do the verse. Pretty cool. What do you think about
Machiner Kelly? I like him that album that's totally my vibe,
like the pop punk vibe, Like that is like what
I grew up on. So I like his sound. Him
as a person, Yeah, weird as a person. Weird, but
at least it's consistent. Watching him climb a c l
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and hang off. Do you see him stick his legs
in that pole upside down? That's did he was he
attached anything? I don't think so that's stupid. Then I
think he just does that. That's stupid because that law
law of averages eventually gonna do enough time, something's gonna
happen to you. Yeah, all right, that's it. Um, we'll
talk to Jody Massina in a second, and we'll talk
about Billboard top hits that have debut at number one, right,
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like they entered the chart at number one, So we'll
do that. Um in a second, Jody, how are you?
I'm good? How are you? I'm good? So most of
these we do at my house because the person usually
lives right down the road. You are the outlier where
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you don't even live in Nashville, which I forgot. You
live in Georgia, right, So where like what talent are
you near? You don't have to say exactly where you live,
but where at are you in George? Are you over
Peachtree City? About its south of Atlanta? So when you
moved to Nashville did you move from I'm assuming that's
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where you grew up? And then when did you move back?
I drew from Boston, Massachusetts? You did? How in the
world did you home of country music? Yeah? How did
you end up in Georgia? Then? Of all places? It's
just a god thing. I really felt like he wanted
me to move here. I didn't know anyone at the time,
and I didn't have any family here. But I was like, Okay,
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if this is what you want, what was your move
to Nashville trip? Like, I mean, were you Oh my gosh,
just got out of high school and so I was
gonna move to Nashville and get a record deal. That
was my plan. I didn't realize it was everybody else's
plan as well. I just I was just I think
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I was so naive back then that it was beneficial
because I was singing in like clubs and restaurants and stuff.
I started when I was aboutteen or fourteen years old.
And so when I graduated high school, all my friends
went out of college, and I was like, well, I'm
wanted to do something about this career or um or
go to school, you know. So I finished out the
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gigs that I had left on the books, and my
brother drove me down to Nashville and left me there
to find my way. And I was like, Okay, I'm
gonna get a record deal. But I didn't have a clue.
But that's why everyone else was in town. White gay
were you doing, you know, before you moved to Nashville.
Were you doing just covers? Were you singing country music? Like?
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Because to me, Boston now is a massive country music market.
I'm up there a lot of my shows on Boston.
But what was Boston like back when you were a kid.
There was not a lot of country music up there.
People thought I was crazy. My friends thought I was weird.
There was one station and you could get it at
certain times a day, and then it didn't come in,
you know, during the major parts of the day. But um,
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I relied on a lot of records and cassettes back then.
Did your family think that you were nuts for moving
to Nashville, Tennessee from Boston to pursue something that it's
really hard to be, uh, even to make a consistent
paycheck in at that time. I mean, we didn't know.
We just knew. Um, Nashville wasn't what it is today.
It was you know, you could walk down Music Row
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and you know, actually crossed the street with no traffic.
There was sidewalks in all the little publishing houses where
our little houses, and um, you know, my mom just
was like, Okay, you know this is what you want
to do. I trust you. And my dad was like,
you did to get a real job? Did you get
a real job like a lot of folks have to
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do when you moved to Nashville? I did. I didn't
sing for the first two years that I was there, Um,
I had a job as a bartender, which was really
bad because I never drank anything in my life, so
I didn't know what was what. I didn't last long.
Um I did some accounting and data entry, and it's
when I started entering talent contests down there for money.
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Is when I started to actually get out and sing.
So you moved down here to sing? But again, why
did it take you so long to actually hop out
and do these talent contests or anything for that matter. Well,
then there was not the like Broadway like it is now.
Broadway had like maybe one gig, you know. There was
not a lot of places to play around town, which
seems ironic because it's music city. But for a newcomer,
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you just had to wait for the open mic nights,
so the contests and things like that. So um, the
first couple of years, it was really just trying to
keep a roof over my head and and get to
know people. And I was pretty much kept to myself,
so that was it was. It was a strange time.
I guess what year was that when you moved to Nashville,
kindy or maybe no ninety it was, Yeah, it's funny
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that you bartended and you haven't had a drink of alcohol.
I also have never had a drink of alcohol, and
I tried to think of myself, I have now, but
at that age I didn't. Well, I still I haven't now,
and I wouldn't know what the crap I was doing.
I would just have to read it off a book
and be like, Okay, I think this is it, because
I wouldn't even taste it to make sure they did.
They had the little index where you could look up stuff,
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but I didn't know what color they were. Someone would say, oh,
it's all the don't don't quote me, everybody. I have
no clue about mixed drinks, but all the all the
all the clear liquor or all the dark liquor or.
And I was like, okay, what's the different it's with?
You know, I was just totally blind to all that.
I was clueless. My drinks must have been horrible. So
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you're working, you're you're entering these talent contests. You win
or you finish, you know enough to be in the money,
and so to suddenly come up to you, you did
they come to you and well, you just won? You
should actually like try this somehow. No. So what happened
from that point on is I won five dollars, which
is like huge, it's all my monthly. My bills were
for like a month and a half and so um.
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Along with the money, I got a chance to perform
at a radio show, a live radio show. So I
went up there and I performed on the live radio show,
and then they kept asking to have me back, and
so I became a regular on the radio show every
Saturday night. It was called Live at Livy's. It was
out of Daysville, Kentucky, snowhere around anymore, but that's where
my producer, Byron Gallimore, heard me and called the steakhouse
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where it was, you know, broadcast from, and he was like, hey,
you know, I'd love to talk to you about putting
a demo together. So so he heard you saying on
the radio you were performing from my steakhouse, called the
steakhouse to get in touch with you. Or did he
actually talk to you through the steakhouse phone. I think
I talked to him on the phone. I got his number,
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I got his name. I had been promised so much
by so many people. I threw it out and then
I went home to see my family. Now, that was
the first time I had gone home for Christmas, and
so I went on to see my family. That's all
I cared about. And Um. I went back Massachusetts for
a couple of weeks, then came back to Esheville and
I was like, maybe I should go. I guess should
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give that guy a call. So I researched. You know,
he said he worked at Pride Music Publishing. Um So
I called there and was like, hey, some guy called
me before the holidays and they're like, oh, that was
Byron so Um. Then I met with him and he
talked about a plan on putting a demo together. He
was working with a kid named Tim McGraw who had
a deal. Um he had a song called Welcome to
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the Club at the time, anyone even remembers that song.
But um, so he's working with this kid that just
got a record deal, and I thought, okay, maybe he's legit.
And so you guys start working together, and do you
start recording immediately or does he have you going out
and pursuing rights or listening to songs? How does it
work before you actually make a record? Oh? Man? Um?
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And how long we had done a couple of showcases
for people, and we're getting feedback. Remember I grew up
singing live, so that was my that's my comfort zone.
It's like to be on the stage, and that's I'm
more comfortable there than in the studio because I don't
like the sound of my my voice coming back in
my ears, you know. I'm sure when you first started
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recording your voice and then you heard it back, You're like,
I don't sound like that. So I was more comfortable
on the stage that we had done a few UM
showcases for and writers got ideas and would start pitching
songs UM for project. And it took a long time
to a couple of years maybe to put the project
together there because they were after that McGraw had Oh gosh,
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get in Allah and then Uh, don't take the Girl,
I think was right after that, and that's when everything
started getting crazy. So our opportunities to get in the
studio we're getting you know, pushed back a little bit
because they were just crazy busy, and so that's what
the time process was, UM and what the delay was
in that whole situation. Your first number one here is
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Bye Bye Marriage. So was this your first single or
was it your first single that went number one? Did
you have one before this? It didn't. We're just gonna
love this one. One of my teammates, Um, my first
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single was head to Carolina Tales California, which is which
is bizarre get around by Maria. I was gonna talk
about that. That's the wildest song to never go number one.
Head's Carolina tells California like I can't did on some charts,
like the smaller charts, but Billboard and I think are
and are It's set behind my Maria forever. That is
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just some bad luck that two of the biggest country
songs of all time are on the chart at the
exact same time. They just want to kick Ronnie and
Kicks in the ship and be like, hey guys, come on,
let me hop up there. They were my first major tour,
so no I learned a lot from them touring with them,
and they were just so kind to me, and the
crew was kind to me, and they they gave everybody
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the speech, you know when we first started, like whatever
whatever they need, you know, to see to it that
they haven't take care of them and we were just
spoiled rotten on their tour, so no, but we did
have bad luck or not bad luck, but we did
have that same luck again with Lesson and Leavin and
that song that's for a few years after that. Who
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sat at number one? That time does star Baby Amazed?
Eight weeks? Eight weeks we were at number one and two.
That's crazy. So let me rewind for a second. So
heads Carolina tells California, um, which we still play on
our show, because I mean, that song just transcends every
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form of music, every form of it doesn't matter. It's
such a good song that thank you? Was that your
first ever single? And if so, it must have felt
like a rocket ship. Well here's the deal. We were
done with the album and Tim Nichols, who's one of
the writers on there, had called me and said, because
he saw me at a showcase and he's seen me
around town singing and um, he called me and said, hey,
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I wrote this song and I was wondering if you
would listen to it. I'm like, dude, we're done, we're
done with the record finally, And he's like, please, let
me just leave it in your mailbox, listen to it
and then let me know what you think. And so
he did. He lifted the Mailbox and I was like, man,
this song is really catchy. I love the chorus. I'm
not crazy about the opening two lines, but I'm going
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to play it for my producers. And I played it
for my producers and are like which is Byron Gallimore
and to McGrath, and they were like, oh, man, we
gotta cut this. And I was like, yeah, but I
don't like the first couple of lines, and so they're like, well,
ask him to change it, and I was like okay.
So they did. The only studio time that was available
then was on the fourth of July, so we actually
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cut it the fourth of July before it was released.
And so as you cut it, were you already this
is a single? Like in your mind? Were you cutting
it to be a single? Are you cutting it just
to get it on the record and see what would happen?
We're cutting it to get it on the record. And
then as soon as we passed the record in. As
soon as we passed it in, there like okay, this
would be the first single. Do you remember what the
lines were that were changed? We stood have known it
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the day they cut that paper mill down or shut
the paper mill down. Sorry, there'd be no future for us,
no more in our little town. I've got people in Austin.
Ain't your daddy still in the morn? And I was like, oh,
and can we change Austin to Boston? People in Boston?
And so yeah, so that peaks at two and then
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you okay, So then Bye Bye comes out? And did
you feel like a little bit because Bye Bye again
such a great song? Did you feel like a little
bit that the chart? The chart people felt like, Okay,
we need to make because she got such a raw
deal with heads Carolina tells California, we need to make
sure there's nothing else in the way with this one.
I don't think they were aware. I think it was
just the song itself. Um, I saw they pitched Emi
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pitched it to me. It was a phil of Asters
song and they I loved it as soon as we
heard it. And so and that one that I had
a different first line to the opening line for that
was a girly you sure look pretty. They're standing in
the doorway in the sunset light. And when I sing
and it's like, boy, you sure look good. They're standing
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in the doorway. And I remember before we cut it,
Phil Bash was like, it's not a song or a girl,
it's a guy's song. And so he still says that today,
he's like, that's not a girls song. That was written
for a guy. So but we we love each other.
But he's yeah, we got Bye Bye that came out
and then I'm all right, yeah, same year, I'm all right,
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here's here's the clip of I'm all right, clown and
so I guess something new and all right. So when
I'm looking back, it just kind of the timeline. So
heads Carolina tells California comes out crushes, but stays it too,
You're not in Kansas anymore followed that, now I'm still
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a top ten songs to be fair, but still a
top ten song. How many singles were on that that
first record? Though? Was that the one they released? It
makes something of it? Was that on that album and
then he'd never maybe maybe before, because I remember we
were trying to buy time to get to the next album,
and so we were to complete the record and that
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was a process back then because you had to go around,
um listen to the songs, and then you had to
um put a playlist together, bring it to the producers,
then go through it. That cast out the things they
didn't like to bring it to the label. The label
would cast out things that they didn't like. Then they
came down to a small list and then they'd play
it for friends and see who, you know, who liked
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it and what people thought. And it took forever. It
took forever to make a record. Well, when that second
record comes out, quite the year because you also had
stand Beside Me, which was a number one song as well.
Yes it is written by a man. And here you go,
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so you gotta be feeling pretty good. You've got three
number ones in a row here, and at this point,
are you headlining the big shows? Now? Um, we didn't
start head landing until like we were kept being an
opening act and opening act, and then they're like, okay,
you're gonna have to step out on your own. And
so we started to step out on our own. And
there was a new group that was out and I
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loved them, and I was like, oh my gosh, they
have to be my opening and we have to find
out how to get them. And people like, oh, they're
not gonna last. You know, they are a bunch of young,
you know, pretty boys, and they're not gonna last. And
you don't want them on tour with you. And I
was like, oh, but I love them so much. And
that wasn't the beginning of or two thousand, because two
thousand where we took Rascal Flats out with us and
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they for us. For me twenty three years ago, I'm
all right, came out you landed your first number one
twenty three years ago. This year that when it hits
number one after you know, three or four songs that didn't,
was it a relief, like, Hey, I finally arrived, like
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this second record, we knew, we leveled up, and like
I have a number one, so it's game time. Did
it feel like that at all? I never really had
that mentality. I think my mentality was always one of gratitude.
And when then you're in the midst of it, you're
trying to keep up, like you have a number one song,
it's like, oh my gosh, how's the next we're gonna do? Okay,
We're gonna work really hard, We're gonna make it happen.
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We're gonna you know. It was like constantly fast moving everywhere,
going everywhere and to all the radio stations and to
you know, to do all the like you know, will
you come play for our lunch or will you come
play at this small or would you We were just
chasing it constantly and so and then you look at
the award shows. I told someone this the other day.
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I don't think people realize this, but you know, my
songs were things that I wish that I could say,
like I want a man a stand beside me, not
in front of them behind me, because for some reason
I had a tendency to date jerks, and so I
love that song because it was like the strong woman
I wish I was, and the same with the same
thing and bye bye or I'm all right or all
those songs. So the reason why people gravitated towards those
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songs was the same reason that I gravitated towards them all,
like man, I wish that was really my heart. So
you take all those songs that did well on the
chart you throw in award shows. I remember people because
they're very tough songs. But I wasn't tough. I was
like really insecure, and I'm like I'm so ugly and
I'm so gross, And so you put me into a
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dressing room at an award show with Faith Hill and
Martina McBride and Sarah Evans and Tries, and I sat
in a corner I would put my I'm like, I
did not even deal worthy to be in the presence
of those girls. But due to the strong songs and
all the lyrics, everybody thought, oh my gosh, look how
stuck up she is. And I'm like really going, oh
my gosh, I can't get too close to you, like
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you're so beautiful like it, I don't. I can't even
exist in your presence. So I would hide in a
corner at the award shows, I just hide out. So
I never really all that to say. I never really
reached that hey I'm there, I'm so cool, I got this,
I'm a big deal. I always felt grateful to be
there and like, oh my gosh, I get to believe
I'm she are in a dressing room with my dad.
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For me, you know, a lot of it comes back
to c MT and back in the nineties and early
two thousand's and seeing you in a music video seemingly constantly.
You know, it was like you you seem to always
have a big music video on. You know, I've had
It's pretty cool to just be in random places and
even restaurants. Here yourself pop up on TV as on
a music video. Um, yeah, and then you start to
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sync down in your chair like, oh, nobody realizes that's me.
Maybe you had a restaurant. But speaking of videos and
number one songs and etcetera. We so that my first
headline tour was the The Burnt album. Off that album
came Bring On the Rain. Bring On the Rain, Um
was already out for a while. People had already heard
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Ring on the Rain, and they kind of threw that
out there as a single to buy time for the
next record, you know, to just kind of buy some
time at radio and try to keep us out there
while we're making a new album. Well, dang, that thing shipped.
You know what ships like two weeks or used to
ship like two weeks before it's ad date. The ad
date was September ten, and so we were going for
ads on Monday. Then September eleventh happened, and so and
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this is all going back to your video, your point
them out the video. But we were gonna do a
video because we're like, we gotta stay present, we gotta
stay out there. But we didn't have a treatment and
we didn't know what to do the video on. And
so right after September eleven, people were suggesting, you know, oh,
you gotta make it about the Twin Towers. It has
to be about you know, September eleven. That has to
And I said, wait a minute. This song has been
out there for a while. People already have their own
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story behind it, and so they're like, yes, but everybody's
doing you know, September eleventh and patriotic and American, and
I was like, I felt really uncomfortable trying to take
that song and make it about such a tragedy because
that's not why it was written in the first place.
And so if you ever watched that video, there's no
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story depicted, no watch to bring on the rain video.
I'm doing nothing but sitting and freezing cold water singing
a song. Yeah that's interesting, because you know, I'm just
looking at kind of the timeline to two thousand one.
I mean, the song goes number one in two thousand one,
but it was a September ship date. I mean, everybody
was lost for for obvious reasons, just creatively, everybody was
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lost everywhere all the time. I mean that again, it
was an odd time to be a performer. And already
have something out there, and that's kind of weird they
would ask you to change that even though people already
had a already had the song and knew what it
was about, and they had their story like, oh, my
mom was suffering with cancer and this song helped me
get through it. Or my brother, you know, I lost
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my brother in a car accident and this song helped
me get through it. Or I've just been going through
depression and this song helped me through it. So they
already had what that song meant to them, and I
was like, I can't take that from them, and just
didn't seem right. I do want to talk about your
live shows for a second. Um recently, I was playing
a show in which Talk Kansas and they were, you know,
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probably three thousand people. There was a good show and
a good night and one of my one of the
people on our radio show is a big fan of yours,
and she wanted to come out and she wanted to
sing Heads Carolina, and so she comes out and she's
singing and it's a big moment for her. But what
I can remember is everybody's singing so loud over the
top of her because that song is so beloved, Like
I have to imagine that when you sing it, you
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can almost just say the first couple of words and
everybody else just takes it away because it's it's so
known and so loved. We have the in ears, so
that helps me to hear my vocal. But then we
also record out front, and we also sometimes will video
to see, you know, how things are placed on stage
and how things are working. I always laugh and I
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talked to the front of house guy. I'm like, I
don't even know what you're doing, Like you can't hear
the speakers, like it's the heads Caroline, it's lesson and leaving,
it's bye bye, it stand beside me, it's I mean,
there's so many songs that are so even Bring on
the Rain, it's like they you start the intro with
the guitar, you get off into Tomorrow's Another Day, unthirsty anyway,
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and then you can just stop singing. Then it's so loud.
You're you're touring now. You get tickets at Jody Messina
dot com because again, you have so many big songs,
and I don't want you to spoil the whole set
list here anything, but what in the world do you
start with, Oh mean, it depends on the show and
the length of time the show is. So if we
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are on a big festival and they give us a
shorter time slot, and these days I'm going on in
front of a bunch of guys, we just go out
and slamming. We hit the ground running up tempo, slamming
rock and rock and rock and rock and rock, and
thank you good night, because we don't want to bring
the crowd down again. Remember I grew up singing live,
so I always had to win the crowd over when
(34:47):
I was little, because when I was fourteen and fifteen,
I was playing, and you know, restaurants and bars they
could care less like drink and mingle. They weren't there
to listen to music. So I try to design that
to just be right to the point. It's a set
of number one songs. You guys can check Jody out
Jody Messina dot com. She's I got shows all the way.
(35:10):
I mean, heck, do you have shows until July of
next year. I'll say this about you too. You performed
on our radio show and you are so good, like
just vocally, just so pure. And we still talk about
how you came in and you started singing, and we're like, well,
she still sounds maybe even better than we remember. I
sound like the record. Um, I think it would just
(35:33):
sing all the time, you know. It's I don't just
sing when I'm on stage. I sing at the grocery store.
I sing at you know, my kids school, or I'm
always singing or whistling or it's so it's never something
that I get time off from. UM and I love it.
And when I'm home, like you you know me, I
relate in my relationship with Jesus. Like this Sunday, We're
having a huge worship night at my house, so I'm
(35:55):
leading a bunch of people all night. So I'm singing
for hours on Sunday. And then I'm singing well the
thing leading up to it, and I'm just right and
I'm writing, so I'm singing well doing that. So I'm
just constantly, constantly standing. I hope you guys go check
out Jody on Instagram at Jody Messina and then again
she's on tour Jody Messina dot com. I'll end with
(36:15):
this because you know it's just wild. I think one
of the clips that I am cutting from this, not
not cutting, but highlighting like taking out and highlighting is
the fact that two of your biggest songs we're at
two because two of the other biggest songs of all
time as well just happened to be out at the
same time. But it's just a wild story that Lesson
and Leaving and Heads Carolina were both number two songs.
(36:38):
Because as far as country music goes, like if you
were to make that list of biggest country music songs
of all time, like the top hundred, like they'd be
in in those charts, those categories, those shows that were made,
and so the timing of that pretty terrible. But as
you're an artist and you're you're established, and you start
to see new artists come about, and I think about
this because you mentioned Rascal Flats and I think of
(37:00):
a Luke Combs now, uh, Sam Hunt at one point,
Morgan Wall and artists they show up and just like
smash and it's like wow, here they come there like
a locomotion. They're they're so big, so quick. Who did
you see? What you know? In the late nineties early
two thousands, and Rascal Flasks can be one example where
they where you were like, holy crap, they're so good
and they're getting so big, so fast rhymes. It was
(37:25):
a constom battle at the label because we were on
the same label and be like, oh, she's got another
record coming out, We're gonna push your single back. She
was another record out and it was huge. It was
like huge, you couldn't even keep up with it never
I mean it was huge at the time. And she
was also sixteen. When she was fourteen. Yeah, well, Jody,
(37:49):
you are the best. Thank you for spending a little
time with me. And if you hang if you guys
can go see Jody on tour, I highly recommend it.
Thank you, and I hope you have an awesome rest
of the day and hopefully I see in person soon,
I hope. So take care of Bobby, Bye bye bye.
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So I have a list here of Billboards top hits
that have debuted at number one, meaning these are the
songs that, as soon as they were out high promotion
are to support it went immediately to number one. Got
it rare. Only fifty seven songs have debuted on the
top of the Billboard Hot one hundred out of more
than number one songs. Okay, okay, I'm starting to think, like,
(38:30):
what could these songs be? Right, here are your top
top ones number one. The day was September two. Okay,
he was the first ever to accomplish this when this
song debuted at number one here playlist. I love this
Michael Jackson song, and it never gets credit for being
(38:51):
one of the great Michael Jackson songs. I wouldn't even
put it in on top five. I forgot about you
put it in top ten now that I heard it.
Of course, I loved you or Not alone. Mariah Carey
Fantasy number two. This is the roller Coaster video, right
like this? That one, isn't it from the roller Coaster?
Singing Whitney Houston XHL Shoot Shoot, Shoot Shot. This was
(39:23):
from that movie Waiting to Excel. Right, Oh yeah. There
were the number four and these are all the biggest
songs to debut at number one. Mariah Carrying Boys, two
Men One, Sweet Day was number one forever It's it
was number one at stage number one. I felt bad
for any song that came. I tried to be number
one during like a three month period. Three months, Mike Man,
look and see how long that song was number one,
But I'm gonna guess it was over twelve weeks. You're right,
(39:44):
because they can't predict that like other artists trying to plan,
like all right, we're gonna put our song here. Three months,
I bet it was over that. Wow. I would bet
that it could have been as much as six months.
That's crazy. I remember the video coming out and I thought,
I cannot believe these two artists are to get that's
the greatest thing ever. You thought that sixteen weeks, so
four months unbelievable. The song was number one. Puff Daddy
(40:06):
and Faith Evans don't play the clup yet? What song
puff Daddy and Faith epens? I don't even know if
Faith Evans is you don't. I mean, the only Puff
Daddy I'm thinking is with Biggy, But what's about Biggie?
It was about big every breath, every breath missing, same song,
same sampaig Dad. What I'm gonna say. Mariah Carey Honey
(40:31):
debut at number one, Mariah carry killing it. Yeah. I
think she gets lost in the mix of greatest pop
stars of all times, but she definitely is one of them.
Like if you had a mount rushmore of pop stars,
I think Mariah Carey, I think you put Taylor Swift
on there? Now? Is it? Maybe because she's diva? Like,
(40:51):
do people in the industry not like her so much
that you have pop that doesn't matter? Yeah, because you're right, well,
you don't put Mariah Carry up there. I don't know.
Mariah Carey comes up to my mind when I think Christmas,
and that's it. What do you think about think of
Mariah Carry, Mike? I mean I think of the nineties,
these songs, and then mainly for her being married to
NIW Cannon. Nick Cannon comes to mind. I mean I
(41:13):
think of Tommy Mattola more than I think of Nick Cannon.
She was young. That was our first husband who was
running Sony at the time. Candle in the Wind from
Melton John to me, like, can Selene Dion My Heart
Will go On? There's a two movie Wins in a Row,
(41:34):
No Candle in the Winter. Marilyn Monroe slashed Princess Dot.
Oh is that right? Right? The first time it was written,
it was Marilyn Monroe in mind, and then he kind
of changed a little bit for Princess Dot. Really didn't
know that Selene Dion My Heart Will go On is Titanic? Yeah?
Another movie one though, is Aerosmith. I don't want to
(41:55):
miss a thing, and they're only number one on the
Billboard Crazy Rock Legends Lauren Hill do Wop. I'm gonna
(42:15):
play you this one, but I'm not going to tell
you who it is. This one debut at number one,
D three, number one with a bullet. Here you go
this Wendy to All My dream It sounds like a
praise and worship song. Now it doesn't any yes? Is
(42:37):
it not? No? Who is this? Is it a praise
and worship artist? I have no idea who this is.
I don't think I've ever heard this song on my life.
It was a debut single for this person after they
won American Idol. Oh Clay Acing Clay Akin? What's that
(43:01):
guy doing? Now? Are you still singing? I don't try
to run for rof its. North Carolina didn't win that.
I don't know. Okay, see if you can name this
number one from two thousand four? Ye ever heard that? That?
(43:23):
Macy Gray? No bit of vocal texture the same. It's
American Idol Fantasia single after winning American Idol. People forget
the cultural impact American Idol used to have. Just everybody,
all the time. Carrie Underwood number thirteen, I'm going to
Inside Your Heaven American idol. See if you can name
(43:45):
this one two thousand six. Okay, this is the next
time the one debut a go ahead, Yeah for sure,
it's Daughtry. Now it's Taylor Hicks. I've or he want American.
So look at that. We have four in a row
number one, two thousand three, four or five and six,
(44:06):
the only ones those years to debut at number one.
Fantasia carry Taylor Hicks and uh Clay Can. But going
with your whole thing of like hype and everything that
this was the ultimate hype because the game show was
leading up to these these singles. They'd sing it at
the end when they won. Yeah, and what did they win?
A record deal? Yeah, big one for like a year,
(44:26):
a full deal. That it's not a record deal is
only short. If you suck, they can cut you. But
they assign it to like so you have them so
many records, got it. It used to be record name management.
It used to be, you know, quite sicky. Now not
so much because they know people won't come on the
show anymore if you owe them your whole life when
it's over. Back when the show first started, I think
(44:46):
you gave me your middle name. You know, the first
three kids is a whole deal. Britney Spears number three.
This is the name of the song two thousand nine.
I remember that song but heard at the club? Is
the club? Come on, man, Eminem not afraid Kesha. We
(45:09):
are who we are. Kesha has a new show coming
out where she goes and hunts and ghosts, and about
three weeks or so, they said, hey, Kesha wants you
to come and shoot this show with her. And I
was like, Kesha wants me to come shoot a show
(45:30):
with her. They're like, she goes and she goes to
these haunted I have no interest. It's not about Kesha. Yes,
you don't want me to fly out to San Francisco
and like go stand some jail overnight or something with her? Kesha? Yeah,
that'd be great on her show. See, that's the whole thing.
This would be like for your career. Man, Kesha's creepies
or something. Do you have a story about that, Mike?
There is Kesha will explore haunted places in a Discovery
(45:55):
Plus series called Conjuring Kesha. Okay, that's what it is.
That's what it is. What do you do? What are
you even thinking about it? You already said, already said no, No,
what are you doing zero? First of all, no, second
of all no, and third of all, I don't want
to do that. It's not about kesh It, it's not
about you know, you just don't want. I don't want
(46:15):
to go and spend the night in a jail in
San Francisco. Would go in ghosts? Then why aren't you
there the whole experience? He doesn't. It's I don't know.
I just said no. It was an easy man. I
want to said, he has no heart beat. I like Kesha.
I think I've only member once. I don't know where,
but I like like like we were on a flight
with Kesha. That was crazy. We were yeah to Vegas
and she was sitting about three rows in front of us.
You remember this, Yeah, now that you say that she
(46:37):
in first class and we weren't. I know it was Southwest,
so there was no first class. I remember because I wasn't.
I wasn't saying in the first class sea when Kesha
was on a plane. Um, all right, but would you
have done that show, Mike? Yeah? Right? Why not? Also?
The timing was weird. But mostly it's about ghosts now
making every other excuse because you guys are shaming me,
Brittney spears, holding against me, speeding. It's good, escape the
(47:03):
clos that's the club right there. The song starts to
get a little worse, so I should go down the list.
Don't like songs that aren't lasting that long. What was
Britney's song that was like if you see Amy? Oh,
if you seek games, if you seek amy? Did you
and that's what it was? Did you get it? No?
(47:24):
If you seek Amy was the name of the song
that says the play on play it, yes, if you
seek me? Oh, that's the radio should be playing if
you seek Amy? And we're just idiots. I see you
guys are singing it there the whole time. Remember this,
pull it up? How long? When did it come out? Though?
That that's what it meant. No, you knew what media
(47:45):
you did? I would. I would have sang this for
years without knowing it. Brain. I just wanted to the
padish kind somebody take me you WHOA. All the boys
(48:08):
and all the girls are begging into fuc that's crazy
and radio played it like that's crazy. I had no idea.
Now I can find a million dollars for something to
happen to do with anything that was like Gaga would
poker face. Wait, what what's that? There was in that
little in the sample she used right, yeah, said ever
face yea, and only one radio station caught it was
(48:28):
kiss in Los Angeles. Dang, and she knows the whole time,
so they're probably like speaking of Lady Gaga. Born this Way,
baby to number one, two eleven. Okay, this is a
good one that's lasted. This is this one's been strong track.
Baby was born this Way. And then Katy Perry has
one part of me here. I don't know that one.
(48:55):
I don't either. She was just such a massive star
for a while that anything she put out would show up. Okay,
that's it. Thank you all, Eddie, thank you, Thanks you guys.
To check out the award winning losing Yes, I love that,
the award winning. We won an award last week.
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