New duo Tigirlily sits down with Bobby to talk about how they handle being sisters in a country duo. Kendra and Krista talk about how they’ve had the same name since they started as teenagers in a small town in North Dakota until they came to Nashville and started by playing bars on Broadway. They talk about their new EP and getting to work with some of the biggest writers in Nashville and also getting to make their national TV debut on a famous soap opera.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Welcome to episode three. We have on the girls from
Tiger Lily, their sisters, and just how their whole story
came together. It's it's it's pretty amazing. Here is a
clip of Somebody does from Tiger Lily's Crazy in the Morning.
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Somebody enjoyed it a lot more than I thought I would. Yeah,
not that I didn't think I would enjoy it. I
just didn't know them, But I really enjoyed this interview,
So hang out for that. Top five releases this week,
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Thomas Rhett has a new song called Slow Down Summer.
You can't see down fast In this song fine never
seen them Riding. At number four, Post Malone and The
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Weekend have a new song called one Right Now, Thank
You So Easy, I Got one coming. At number three
Low Cash they have a new EP called Woods and
Water and here's a new song called Beach Boys. Let's
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stick Cavery saying Tennessee catch you, John Cantamaran, get a
little bit of rid on ridden shout a lab in
the bottom Mum. At number two, Dina Carter released the
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anniversary edition of her album Did I Shave My Legs
for This? There is a new version of Strawberry Wine
with Lauren Elena, Martina McBride, Ashley McBride, Kylie Morgan and
Vince gil on guitar on the banks of the river.
Wrong well, Vaden past. It's funny how those memories the
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last Extrawberry one sad and at number one, Tanil Towns
has a new song called Villain and Me Boys, whats
I save? Allless things about myself found to the heavy
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glass the only leaving if range try to be and
he rolled to bruce me to mine. Yeah, there's a
villain in the ere. You go check out some new
music this week and let's get over and here the
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interview with Tiger Lily. Thanks for having yeah, sorry that
today and we're rolling so anything you say can and
we'll be used against. Sorry. I got delayed a few
hours today and I called Mike and I said, hey, listen,
these girls want to cancel on me. I get it.
But thanks for being flexible and coming up here a
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couple of hours later, your big stars. Now you know
I had to, you know, blow off big stars. I
was having a minor, minor medical emergency today. No I'm not,
and that's why I'm still. I am fine. Feel like
I might say no I'm not. You guys are like
they really sold out for us. Um No, but I'm great,
So it's good to finally meet you guys. So your sisters.
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Who's the two year older sister? But I look younger
because I tell the chubby cheeks like that'll keep me
younger for a while. But Krista is twenty three and
I'm so Kendra Krista. Yes, you would almost think you
were twins because of the case, because the very similar look. Um.
And I asked Mike, as it, are they twins, and
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he said no, But I could see where people confuse that.
You also can't tell who's older and who's younger. Um,
and you sound like and your your harmony sound like
sisters when you get singing together. That's a hard thing
to get unless your family. Yeah. We uh, that's a
very popular question for us. As are you twins but
just sisters? I mean, I wish it could be twins,
I guess, but we kind of feel like Anyways, we've
been singing together for over eight years and at this
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point we lived together, we have a career together, we
are together seven so might as well be twins? Yes,
until they kicked me out. Her and her husband have
a house, and I runt from them. So I'm like,
just let me know. I guess I want to get out.
I like it here. We have to get a few
number ones and then you'll move out exactly. So let
me get this straight again, because the caves are confusing.
Kendra Chris. Yes, and we actually have another little sister, Carly.
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Our parents could never get it right. What's with the case.
I have no idea. Carly are younger sister. Was brooke
for a while and it just didn't sit right. So
now it's Kendra Christa Carle And usually Carly is the
one who's in trouble most. And so if either of
us like, you know, we're in trouble by our parents
growing up and be like Carly Christa Kendra ah, and yeah,
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so I figured our name is wrong. I really don't care. No,
I answered to both. Honestly, it's it's fine. Is musical
the younger sister. You know, we tried to get her
to join the band when we were starting out, and
she hated being on stage and she loves music to death.
She honestly not a huge country music fan, which is
kind of funny considering that's what we love obviously she
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saw she likes Tiger Lily though she's a huge tire
early fan, which I guess is the most important part.
But no, she loves music, but she would never want
to do this. Your parents are they musical? Not at all?
Very weird my I mean, we grew up going to
church and singing in church all the time, and our
parents always played music around us, you know, when we
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would go to bed at night, in the car, wherever
we were at, there was always music. But they and
they put us some piano lessons at a young age too.
They're always music advocates. But it just was something that
came naturally to us. And Kendra love being on stage.
Right away. She was doing every talent show she could.
I think our grandma forced her to be in this
cool Gate country showdown a very very long time ago,
so she kind of got the performing bug. And then
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I caught up to her and started playing guitar and
writing songs, and I'm like this, this looks fun. I
don't want to be left in the dust. So naturally
I started accompanying her for her shows and it was
always Kendra and friends, So I really upgraded in the
past couple of years, so um started learning harmony. We
listened to all these harmony, big harmony bands like Rascoe
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Flats and stuff growing up, so learned that and we've
been doing music ever since. A big decision to make
more than a friend, I know, Kendra and Friends was
you know, it had a ring to it, but I
guess this works a lot better. So, you know the
I have a comedy duo that we tour pretty regularly.
It's my friend Eddie and myself and we're called Bobby
Bones and the Raging Idiots and Eddie's all the Raging Idiots,
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and it's similar because it is Bobby Bones and the
Raging Idiots like Bobby and Friends. And that started because
I was doing stand up and I would headline and
then the Raging Idiots would play as well. So it
ended up being on every sign it was a Bobby
Bones and the Raging Idiots and so it was like
and he was like, I don't care, I don't give
a crap, but I'm glad you stood up and you're
more than just two friends. Right. It was a big
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step for us. So so as the little sister, do
you think you pursued music because you loved music or
you loved your sister. I think it was a combination,
to be honest, I always loved playing music and I
don't know what made me start writing songs either at
the age of ten, uh but both. And I'm also
I'm not competetive. I'm not competitive anymore. But I was like,
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I don't want her like I gotta do this too.
I mean, we played sports as kids, we did everything,
and I was always just trying to beat the older sister.
That was all it was. So in this, I'm like,
I'm not gonna I'm not gonna beat Kendra's main vocals,
so I'm not I can't beat her in this. Clearly
she's got a thing. Go how do I join? So?
How do I join this with a kind of finding
my own way in path, in my own role within
the duo? Which is weird because people ask us all
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the time if we fight or disagree on stuff. But
I think we've established our roles from a very very
young age and it's worked out for us. What are
those roles? So I'm assuming you are for better at
worth the lead vocalists, Yes, so I do all. I mean,
Chris every once in a while, she'll take a lead
line here and there, or do like the saground, yeah,
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a lead background part, but I mostly do all the
main vocals. And then I grew up playing piano. I
don't play a lot anymore, just because we're always with
the guitar now whenever, whenever we do something um and
Kristy naturally just picked up guitar, and she's amazing at
harmony and can do all the things that I could
not do. So it really just meshed so well together.
And and when we play, we know we have we're
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better at these certain things. I'm better at at main vocals,
and you're way better at harmony than I ever will
be in your better at guitar, So it honestly works.
We don't feel like we're stepping all over each other.
And I feel like that's why a lot of bands
end up breaking up is because no, I'm better, I'm better,
My songs are better. My songs are better. Yeah, the
egos getting the way and for us, we try to
like leave that aside and just do it's best for
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Tiger Louie. At the end of the day, a lot
of the great duos know their strengths individually that creates
a better duo. Um. I'm really good friends with Dan
and Shay and have been before they were the massive
Dan and Shay, but you could talk to them and
Shay sings his face off and it's fantastic. But Dan
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is the guy that's running the group, and you wouldn't
know that because she's upfront. But they understand each other's
roles dance, producing the crap. I say crap in a
loving way like he's on it. He's sonically there, and
he also knows though that without Shay singing, what he's
doing isn't going to be near as good as if
it wasn't Shay. So you see with duo's Ronnie and Kicks,
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Brooks and Donn like they know their strengths. I think
it also helps that your sisters, right like you, also
have been in real life fights, and you probably realize
that the fights that you're getting into about music aren't
even real life fights because it's it's not, you know,
blood fight. I always say, I don't know. Obviously, Dan
and Say have a good relationship. They probably seemed like
they're brothers at this point, I would imagine, But I
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cannot be in a band with someone who is just
a friend because we have no filter. We'll go into
a writing room and say, hey, we are very blunt
with each other, uh, just fore warning. But we just
tell each other how it is and there's no backlash.
There's no one getting offended. It's just like, hey, we're
fighting for the best thing for the song, for the band.
But we are just so straightforward and our are rebound rate.
If we do get in a quick fight is two seconds,
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like work back at it. And you've had many years
to do this. That isn't music related. I mean there's
something too being siblings. Yeah, yeah, you have fought about
many things. Don't take my clothes. Yeah, that means you
also understand that every fight is in death. Most fights
aren't death. And if it is a fight that seems
like death, you're also gonna get through because you've gotten
through it when it has nothing to do with music, right,
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So I think there's real length to you know, having
a sibling as a partner. You guys are from North Dakota.
I've been there a few times. I would say, where
have you been in North Dakota. I've done some shows
I've done and I have I have great memories but
wild stories from North Dakota. Really a lot of fans
out there. I love it. It's just hard to get there. Oh,
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it's so. It's so expensive to get there. And we
play there a lot, and like to play a full
band show up in North Dakota costs a lot of
money because you gotta get everybody up there. So I
have played in a couple of places. I played in
Bismarck in Grand Forks, and I remember it was cold.
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And here's what I loved about it. I'll do what
I didn't like and what I loved because what I
didn't like, which is how hard it was to get there.
And we drove forever. It's a long ways and it's
a long ways with nothing in between. I hate it
that much. It was just kind of like I should
we'd like to get there, right. But when I got there,
I remember I was doing um, I was doing a
stand up show in Bismarck, and I was playing at
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a really nice theater. Did you say okay? Possibly, Yeah,
that's definitely. That's the only one, okay, And the people
were they were so And I'm from Arkansas, so I
say this as someone who comes from an extremely rural
town where nobody goes, much smaller though than Bismarck. I
felt like they were just happy that I was there.
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And I really could have just went up on stage
and sucked, and they had just been like, but we
still love you because you came to see us. And
and also I felt pretty good. I performed pretty well
that night, and I remember just feeling such love from
that crowd, that state, that area. I went to my
hotel and they came and tracked me down to my
hotel and I was like, and it was this borderline.
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It wasn't creepy. It was a little bit over the
boundary because I was just going to sleep, but it
was a loving boundary break. And I remember thinking, I
really like these people. They're the most lovely people, the
most kind people. They probably just wanted to hang all night,
for the whole night. If it would have been if
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I'd have been in Boston, I'd have been like, guys, chill,
I what's happening here? Right? But I was like, you
know what, I like it that they're like trying to
hang after the show. There was one hotel across from
the in they knew, they knew what I was staying,
and they were walking down the hall searching for me,
and so I should have been scared, but I wasn't.
But it was a very loving place where they welcomed me.
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And we're just happy that I was there. And so
for that, I have this this great memory, two memories
of going to North Dakota. Yeah, I love that. I mean,
I mean so many times when we introduce ourselves that
we're from North Dakota, obviously, people always say they've never
met anyone from North Dakota and they've never been there.
So it really excites us when people actually have been there,
be there and have experienced it. And h we played
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this last weekend in Nashville and there was a big
hockey game where the college um hockey team from North
Dakota was playing at bridge Stone and so there was
a bunch of North Dakotan's in town and we were
playing Ain't at Dirk Smentley's Whiskey row Um just like
this four hour show on Saturday. And after the show
was done, because it was packed with North Codins and
we walked in and we like we were like the
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superstars that we came. Everyone was cheering because our home
state is so supportive of what we do and it's
a big reason why we've gotten to this point so far.
And it's just I don't know, it was just incredible
to see that feeling and feel that way. But I
talked to the bar staff afterwards and I was like,
you know, sorry, it was kind of crazy today, Like
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there were so many people coming in and da da
da da, and they were like, we wanted to be mad,
but these people were the nicest people and all they
did was drink beer, Like they were just hanging out
drinking beer being the nice exactly. They're like, we wanted
to be mad, but we couldn't. So when did you
two decide that we are going to be a duo
and an actual entity? Um? I don't know if it
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was before you called yourself Tiger Lily, but did you
guys sit and decide that we're not going to be
and Drew and Friends were going to be? When did
that happen? Well, there was one more step, So it
was Kendren friends and then and then it was Kendra
and Krista. So I made the bill. I made the bill,
and then I guess that four I was fourteen, she
was sixteen, and we sat down and said, hey, we
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need a new band name because this is just not
cutting it anymore. Kendre and Christ is way too clunky.
You know, it's just too hard to say. We did
not have the luxury of having a Dan and Shay
or Brooks and Done type of thing going on. And
our last name is sleigh Ball, so that was out.
But we sat down and hey, we need a new
band name. So we came up with tiger Lily, which
was the first flower to grow in our parents backyard
in North Dakota, so it reminded us of home. Changed
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his sphone to tig Girl Lilly for obvious reasons, and
uh literally stuck with that. But we get asked so much,
when did you decide this is something you wanted to do.
We always love music, but we never knew we could
have a career out of it. It wasn't something we
knew because North Dakota is very much grow up. We
go to college four years, you get a job there,
you make really good money, stay with your family. That
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the culture. Obviously, what do you do there? That not
not you guys, but where I come from, there was
a sawmill. People in my town stayed and worked at
the sawmill until the sawmill went out of business and
now it's just kind of an s show. But where
you guys are from, what do people do when they
do stay around? So we're from Haze in North Dakota.
So our town is basically coal, oil, um and farming
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and farming, and that's really the whole state of North Dakota.
A lot of farming, oil and coal and up on
a farm. Uh No, we grew up in town. Or
Dad is actually a respiratory therapist, so he worked at
the hospital. So we really had nothing to do with
any of the popular industries. But we grew up in town.
Our town was people. Um so are graduating classes were
thirty and sixty Yeah, about the same size. Um So
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we always say we don't we write country music from
the perspective of being from small town North Dakota because
we never experienced the country southern thing that a lot
of country artists do. So we try to not right
about that as much and more about small town where
we come from, what we know, um just to be
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real and then we can relate and feel like we
know what we're talking about a little bit. More people
a town that's mostly you know, rural. That's a country
as anything else, right exactly. I think it's funny because
we grew up thinking, oh, we live in town. You know,
we're city girls and stuff, and then we moved to
Nashville like, oh we are country. We are really country. Actually,
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what was when I grew up town was a town
called Hot Springs that had twenty people. Um. Little Rock
was the massive city that had three hundred thousand people.
Um so, I mean Little Rock was like New York
City to me in Little in Arkansas? What was town?
What was the city? Like? What was that relationship from
where you were and how far did you have to drive?
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Bismarck was our hour away town, nearest Target, Starbucks, anything
we wanted like that. So on weekends, you know, to
go to Bismarck was the exciting thing to do. Was
the trip where you go to Sam's Club or Costco
or whatever and uh stock groceries and you know, yeah,
so everything that we wanted to do would be an
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hour away. And then Fargo is the big city of
North Dakota, which is not even that big. I mean
I think the whole state's population is six hundred thousand people.
So it's a really small state. Um, but yeah, fargoes
like the cool, hipming trendy sit four hours. So if
we went to a concert, like if we went to
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go see Taylor Swift, we drive to Fargo and it
was this the biggest thing ever And it was like
we got to eat and go to see Taylor Swift
and it was a big deal. It was a huge deal.
We just spend the night, Yes, four hours to spend
the night. Yeah. Usually, I mean there were trips where
we would drive back if my dad had if he
was on call or had to work or you know whatever.
But most of the time we'd stay the night and
then come back the next day. So you're you just
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said this, so correct me. But if you're teenagers when
you come up with the name Tiger Lillard, I mean
that's been ten years. It's wild that you have kept
that name. No, I know, fourteen and sixteen, because we'll
make a lot of dumb decisions at fourteen, and what
I say, I'm like, we're still lucky we still like
that somehow because now we're twenty three and we've still
kept that name. Because a lot of bands go through
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name changes in that amount of time. Um, so yeah,
it's almost been ten years, which makes me feel so old.
And then I think about what we've done in Nashville
and we're still so new and we still have so
far to go, which is really exciting to me, honestly,
but it just takes so much time and the hours,
the amount of time we've put in, and how much
we've learned just by trial and air through doing it
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in high school and um into college and then moving
to Nashville and and all this stuff. Did you guys
go to college or one or both? Did you go
to college in North Dakota? I went to the University
of North Dakota for a semester, and then we really
weren't doing well. We kind of are like, how can
we do tirely? So I actually stopped going to college,
came back home, lived at home while she finished high school,
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which was that was a big turning point because I
think up until that point it was very easy to do,
Like our parents would help us out, they would drive
us to shows. Yes, we were both in high school
and we would do shows on the weekend and it
was all very natural, um for us. And then Kendra
moved four hours away, and it got really hard to
do tiger lily stuff. And at that point I was like, Okay,
do we like this as a hobby? Is it something
like how we do on the weekends? How far do
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we want to tin or is this what we want
to do? Like where do we see ourselves in five years?
And it wasn't North Dakota. It was Nashville. We always
had a goal to move to Nashville. So both of
you together, which is a big deal, you both knew
you would come to Nashville. Yes, it was always in
the back of our minds, and so moving from North
Dacota to Nashville was like a big deal. It was,
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I mean, moving to Nashville is a big city. We
knew a handful of people, but we didn't know a
lot of people. Uh so that was a big move
for us. But we we weren't really scared because I
think at that point, we're already we had played every
single small town in North Dakota. We had played every county,
fair we even you know, throughout the Midwest. We had
played so many shows and we were like, we kind
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of had done everything we could, so we can either
keep doing this, which would be fine, and a lot
of people make a great living plane in their state,
or we can move and see what happens. Were you
guys getting a little heat in North Dakota, like people
were like starting to know you were and maybe a
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little following at a club or restaurant. Yeah, so we
did so much North Dakota. We actually side note, we
released a song called North Dakota but many years does
not it does not exist anymore anywhere. I'm just gonna
put that out there, so don't look it up. But
it went viral within the state. And that was a
sophomore in high school, and that gave us cred to
go to our the We were the openers. If a
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big act would come into town, they would ask us
to open. So they gave us so much trust and credibility.
And we would go to our schools when we were
still in high school and give speeches and play at
at different schools around the state too, which is a
really good way for us to get in front of
our own peers and have people have an ability to
know who we are. And so yeah, we kind of
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just became the girls. Like if you had a gig
or if you had um, you know, an opening slot
called Tigerli, so that became what we did. Allow me
to be ignorant for a second. Who else from North
Dakota has made it in music or just general? The
celebrities are Carson Wentz obviously, football player Josh Tohmel actor
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um Haagy Lee was the last person to be signed
by a major record label. If correct me if I'm wrong,
I think that's right. So it's been, It's not much so.
Whiz Khalifa was born in my not North Yes, on
the Air Force base. Though. Okay, well you know with Whiz,
I think of Pittsburgh. You know, I think you're big.
But I don't know if he claims that, but I
do know that I only feel like I can ask
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these questions with general curiosity. That not being an insult
because people ask me the same craft about Arkansas and
they're like, what comes from Arkansas? And I'm like, well,
Johnny Cash for the Orioles in nineteen I mean, you know,
so it's it's pretty cool that you have your state
behind you, because that does give you some confidence coming here.
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But I assume when you and I know that's true,
when you come to Nashville, it's like you're starting over
nobody gives a crap, but we knew that at least.
So there's and I say this in the most complimentary way,
there's a hundred versions of you out there and you're
just trying to gasp for air to find how you're
different and what your sound is. So when you decide
to move to Nashville, you pack up a truck. This
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is it the U haul? What do you do? Our
parents helped us drive down. Did Grandma grandpa even come? Yeah? Yeah,
I think our grandma grandpa, whole family thing. We just
from North Dakota to Nashville, drove down and we so
we were moving to Nashville. And then we actually signed
up for college at Belmont and Mt s U UM
and we like register for classes at both because we
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didn't know really how we were going to get down
here and what the way was yet. And then we
realized that tuition, since we were in state, was about
the same at Belmont as it was at Mt SU
And then we got some grants to go to Belmont
UM and things like that, so it ended up working.
We so we both started out at Belmont as sophomores,
which is why a lot of people think we're twins
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as well, because we graduated at the same time. So
you guys went and finished school. Then when yeah, we
have our music business degrees. Baby, Well I thought the
story was you went, you said, okay, schools not for me.
We tried it, We're going to do music. But you
came back. I I. She had to pull me a
little bit. Kendra cried on her first day school, like
I can't go back to this. What am I doing?
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What are you guys doing at Belmont? Then? Are you learning?
Are you vocal? Or did music business? Yeah? Because we were,
I mean we we kind of thought we were writing
songs so much and doing so much that we want
We wanted knowledge in my contracts and know what it
meant in a different area. And so um we went
from music business and got that degree. Finished up during COVID,
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so we never actually like walked to the stage, but
after just finished twenty Yeah, so you're playing as you're
going to school. Yes, So Nashville looks like the earliers
of Nashville. You just really hit it hard because when
you moved to town, everybody is says you have to
do everything right away. You have to really just network
and bust your button, try to do everything you can.
So we're going to school full time, playing three or
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four times downtown Nashville on Broadway. So it's four hour sets,
three times a week to make a living. So you
wanted to stay in Nashville, you know, and writing three
I guess three times a week. So we had no
social lives, I mean, which is okay. I mean, that's
how we met all of our people. But um, that's
just what you got to do when you came to Nashville.
And there were times we were exhausted and why are
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we doing this? We're playing all these four hour gigs
and it feels like no one's listening. What's the point?
I feel like that today? It never leaves you ext
Why am I doing this? So that never leaves? But
you do it because yeah, you still somehow even when
you feel like, oh, I don't know if I can
do this another day, then you just you keep doing
it because what else are you going to do? Because
this is all you've known and done and what else
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is still this is still better than something else, you
know what I mean? And we told ourselves when we
moved down here, we want to do whatever it takes
to make a living off of music. That's always been
our day one, our bottom line, make a living off
of music, doing whatever kind of gigs you can, but
do music. And so that's why we started playing downtown
where it's like, hey, we can meet so many cool
people downtown because you have people people don't realize. It's
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all parts of America and other countries coming to Nashville
to see country music. And so you're gonna meet all
these new people. And we got to play our original songs.
And yeah, it's exhausting gigs, but we made that work.
Put the banner up so people can follow you on Instagram. Yeah,
but it's all worth it. And I don't know, there's
just no one straight line to success, but we just
did whatever it took. Honestly, I think that straight ish
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line to success. And this is as cliche as possible,
but it's just grinding it out, hard work and not
quitting when you should probably quit, can quit. If you
can make it past that point, that's usually when the
as things happen. If you start thinking, maybe this isn't
for me, it's not. It should be so difficult, you
have to question yourself, and when questioning yourself, you should go, Yeah,
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that's right, I am doing this. It's it's stupid and
and it's it's people shouldn't be doing this, but I
want to do it. I'm going to do it. Someone's
going to do it, so it might as well be using.
So you're where did you start playing in Nashville? Because
you got to make those calls? Yeah, so we first
the first bar was at Nudi's Honky Talk. So our
parents loved that when we called and said, hey, mom
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and dad, we you know we're playing at Nudi's. How
did you get the gig? Did you call yourself and
like hustle on the phone. I don't remember had it.
We had to audition, but I think our drummer at
the time had a connection there and was like, hey,
do you guys want to jump in on this gig?
You have to do an audition thing. And so we
did the audition. I remember we missed class for the audition.
It was so personal audition when you to go and
play for like we play the four hour gig. The
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audition was a full four hour. They said, hey, we'll
give you a really I mean not crappy, but yeah,
Monday morning shift, there's no one it's very low risk
for them obviously if we suck. So they're basically seeing
if we can play for four hours and entertain the crowd.
And they liked us enough to keep us around. And
then we played at Bailey's, which is now a different bar.
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It's lucky. Let me stop for a second. You're playing
four hours in your first gig. Do you have four
hours of material or you have an hour and a
half that you're just kind of occasionally different. No, we
didn't repeat songs. We sat down and learn what it's.
I think on our set list is sixty five songs,
but then you take requests the whole time as well,
so you at least if no one requests the song
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during the entire four set, you can play sixty five
songs and right away, you know, I didn't have all
those lyrics memorized, but I knew everything well enough to
get through four hours of material. Now we've done it
so much to where I have most things requested or
um on our set list memorized, which is crazy, because
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I was terrified out of my mind when we started
doing that, because we were so spoiled the North Dakota. Honestly,
we were so spoiled because nine Minutes paid very well
to our ninety minute sets, half originals, half covers, even
half hour opening sets for really cool people. Um, we
did have a We had a pretty good attitude coming
down there. Though we weren't like, oh, We're the best
thing ever to happen to Nashville. We knew we were
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starting over, so we kind of had to go back
to ground zero again and learn all these songs, but
which actually was a great thing for us. So thank
you so much better because of everything that you were
forced to learn. Oh. I even listened to my voice
four years ago and like, how much more relaxed I
sing now, And how much I've grown into my voice
just from singing all these cover songs and honestly, just
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the wear and tear of the voice. I think it's
given me some more rasp and like do we smoke
or do we play Broadway? Cannot tell? But no, it's
I would encourage any artist you know wanting to get better.
It's a little terrifying, but it kind of throws you
in right away and you have to figure it out.
You sink or swim kind of situation basically. But then
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after we did those two bars. We got an audition
shift at dirt Alas Whiskey Row, and that's the place
where we've ended up and loved just every you know,
not every minute, but that's been a great place for
us because the vibe there and the people that come
in and it's really just fit what we do um
with the crowd. So we did a Sunday morning audition
shift there and then we they liked us, so they
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gave us the really late night shifts and then we
started to get the weekend shifts and the night shifts
and now, um, we still play. We only have a
few gigs left for this year, but we still if
we're in town, we'll play Saturdays from like two thirty
to six thirty because we just we can't say it.
We're like, we can't stop. What's what's the money situation there?
Do you guys make pretty good on tips? So you
make this year post COVID the tips are literally insane. Yeah,
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I don't know what's happened. I don't know if people
just want to spend money or if or if we've
just become maybe better or if they I don't know
what the reason is. But so you make a little
bit off the bar, and everyone always asked this. You
make like a small small fee off your base rates,
but most of the money comes through tips and people
just requesting or people just loving what you do. And uh,
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that's another reason why it'd be hard hard for us
to just ever I want to give that up, because
you just you really make great money down there if
you're doing it in a right way. The interesting thing
about you guys here today, and I haven't really had
this experience with any artist yet, is that you have
a published do you have a record? Do? And And
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I'm again I'm gonna be as compliment or as possible
because I mean this in the best way. Yeah, you're
still playing Dirk's bar. I know it. You have a you,
they're manager, their label, your publicist even even hey, even
hoity Twitterer, your publicist. When you say it like that, no, listen,
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I got them all. And so I know on the
scale you know that to have your own publicist yet
to still be playing a bar on Broadway right now,
I haven't seen that. And you guys have real heat
on you. I'll say it again because as of the
direction you're going, you could easily probably just go hey,
we're too good for this right now. We really want
to focus on but but you haven't. And I think
it says a lot where you come from. I think
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it says a lot to you have obligations that you're
going to fulfill and that you just want to keep playing.
So I actually say that in a wonderful way, that
it will be freaking crazy if I walk down and
you guys are playing. People don't even know they should
actually come to a show, because that's not random people playing.
It's somebody that you that you can already see big
things starting to happen for which has been fun because
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this year, a lot of people who have seen us
in the past, you know, come down and they say,
we want to see you because we know you're gonna
be done with this soon, and you know we probably
will be. It is we always said we don't have
to do Broadway anymore, when if we ever get a
record deal or if we ever get a publishing deal,
we don't have to do this anymore. But we've it's
been hard for us to totally just cut it off
just because it's, first of all, just been our source
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of income. It's been our source of building fans it's
been so much for us in the past few years
that total really just cut it off. You know, when
we did get these deals would have Terrif it was terry,
it was still terrifying, and we're still terrified. Totally just
cut it off, even though we can be absolutely fine
without Well, it's also not you know, just speaking honestly,
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you don't get a record deal and be a millionaire. No, no,
no, no no. You get a record deal and you have
the opportunity to hopefully possibly make some money maybe eventually.
But but it means somebody's going to spend money on you, right,
They're investing in you, yes, and and that's really the
hardest thing to get in this talent is for somebody
to believe in you and spend their own money in you,
because that means they see dollars, and dollars means they
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see something you guys could produce for them. It's all
the business. But absolutely, you don't get to be in
the business unless somebody believes that you're pretty good. And
so you're playing how many more I gotta know, how
many more these dark shows do you have at the
bar the rest of the year. We only have three? Okay,
you guys have to go to these shows. I'm telling
my people listen to this right now the next three Saturdays,
next three Saturdays from two six thirty, and then we
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honestly in the new year, really don't know what's going
to happen anymore. I do know if it were me,
I wouldn't do anymore. So maybe three more total. Yep,
you gotta admit, Mike, that's pretty awesome. It's awesome. We
just don't have I don't have people because we're at
my house right now. I don't heck or even the
radio show. I just don't have people at my house
who I don't think are going to be stars, have
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been stars or creating stars. And so the fact that
you guys, I feel that way about you YouTube, that
you're still playing these shows like people have to go,
they have to go. I'm selling tickets. I felt. Yeah,
So I do want to play some of your music,
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and I want to get back into your life. I'm
very interested in it. But here is track one off
the Tiger Lily EP. This is my thing written by YouTube,
and my buddy Walker hates I'm still making me goes.
I'm gonna keep doing my keep danger whatever that he
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wrote that with Walker, I'm assuming before fancy, like was
Mike did Walker open the show for me in North Dakota?
You know? Was that one Walker? Because Walker was on
the road with me for about a year. He came
and we we um, you know, toward and he was
the middle act, and he would get the crowd up
and then I would go and just half half bomb
and half be great. But he was always great, and
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we became really close friends. And I actually was with
him this morning a little bit and he's tired, which
is the best, like embrace and you two are going
to deal with this too. I mean he was exhausted.
I had him and we were doing some stuff together.
He was so tired that I was like, I don't
even know you right now, but but I knew him
because I am that way too. I've had some parts
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of my career where it's just been overload and you're like,
you get a lot of things at once, and you're like,
I have to do them because we're working so hard
to do them. I'm not gonna say no, um, but
it's I can I can hear the Walker Hayes a
little influence in the song too. Yeah, Yeah. That was
our first rite with Walker actually, and we were the
first time we had met him and also the first
time I wrote it Smacked. Yeah, it was a lot
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of first It was kind of like, oh, we're actually
getting some attention to where we feel kind of important
right now and very nervous because we didn't want to
mess it up. We I think we were fifteen minutes
early for this podcast, by the way, because we're just
you know, we're very timely people and don't want to
mess anything up. Ever, because I'm so hard, I'm timely.
You're right on time. She keeps me on time. But anyways,
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we walk into Smack Publishing and Walker's then we were
already big fans of him and we thought he was
really cool. Um, you broke up with me, big fans
of all that stuff. Um. But the coolest thing about
Walker is he had no idea we had anything going
on whatsoever. All his publisher told him was, hey, you
want to write with these two two girls, sister. I
mean he didn't have to, he didn't have to write
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with us at all. But um, we all vibe really
well because we don't throw anything away every you know
that he has all about the weird ideas obviously, words
to chill with the words man like us every words
basically a rapper. I mean, I think one of his
biggest influences mckailmorey says or something he actually love macolm
or something. But anyways, we had such a blast spreading
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my thing. We were talking to him just about our
story and basically we're like, hey, no matter what happens,
we're just gonna keep doing our thing in music and life.
And that's one of the best things have happened for us.
So we wrote that story. And also we're in our
early twenties and all just about life, relationships, career and
just all the things you go through in your twenties, thirties, whatever.
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Doesn't really stop, I guess at any age. So people
have told me from listening to this song, but he
is so cool and uh we love Look we wrote
another one on the EP two with him. Well, you
make a good point. You never actually stopped doing your
thing no matter what age you are, exactly, So fifties, sixties, seventies,
you have a different version when you get older, exactly.
Somebody does I know, because I've programmed the Women of
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Our Country show it's a national show that I do,
and um I put this in as not only that,
but the spotlight artists on our on my Countdown thank you,
thank you so much. We didn't know about that, and
we saw it the radio stations on Contact. No one
told us and someone was DM me Nust being like,
you guys are gonna be on Bobby Bones and I'm like,
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I was like, don't get excited about this. I was like,
this is probably spam. And then we were like in
Cool Springs at them all eating Chinese food and we
were like, oh, this is real, and we were so psyched.
So thank you. So funny because usually what happened to
someone because the Countdown show is massive, two hundred cities
and stations in different countries. But someone from that Countdown
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show calls somebody I don't know who they called. They go, hey,
you're gonna be on. Here's some assets if you want
to post them. If not, don't worry about it. But
the fact that someone to hit you up like hey,
you're gonna be on that, that's hilarious. Yeah. Yeah. Like
our fans was telling us because they heard it on
their local station basically, and they were like, you guys
are gonna be on the Bobby Bones Show tomorrow. I'm like,
what here is that song? Somebody does get out with
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some data looks somebody does you know? With you? Guys?
Where did was it social media that made other people
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look at you that hadn't looked so so far? The
people do you haven't played in front of the people
you haven't been in the room with. Wasn't playing music
on TikTok? Where so much said hey we need to
pay attention to these girls. Yeah, I mean a combination
of things. We feel like we've been doing social media
for so long. We used to do YouTube a lot.
Being from North Dakota, you just how two otherwise you
didn't reach anyone else. Um. Then we started Instagram and Twitter,
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and then during the pandemic we got on TikTok because
we were just bored out of our minds and I
really were canceled, like what do we do? I was
totally anti TikTok because I was like, I cannot dance,
I can't do any of this stuff. And you know,
we started posting covers that we had learned for literally
Broadway gigs, and people started catching on. And then we
posted a tidbit of somebody does posted it on TikTok
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and reels. It actually went more viral on reels reels,
which is interesting. A lot of people don't know that.
They always say TikTok, but it actually went more viral
on Instagram. Um, and so that was the most viral
we'd had an original song go before, and we we
didn't write it to be viral. I know a lot
of people ask, like, do you think about the viral,
like the virability when you're writing now, And honestly, we
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don't at all, because that is too much to think
about wild just writing music. Also, yeah, I didn't want
to cater songs to TikTok either. No, I mean, you
can always find ways to market songs after you write them.
But yeah, was the first time we had really felt
a song go viral and we had we I think
we have over five dred thousand followers on TikTok now,
and our Facebook and Instagram have really increased in the
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last year. And that's just all because we've been posting
videos of us singing or you know, my husband will
dance or jump in a dancing video of us through
doing a stupid dance or things like that. Um. But yeah,
social media has been really great to us, and I
think about how many shows you'd have to play to
reach that many people. And if you use social media
in a great way, it can do really great things
for you. The first that my thing was that the
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one you said that really hit first on social media. No,
somebody does Well. We had covers go viral, like we
did Can't Helpful and Love by Elvis, and we did Landslide.
People really love the like angelic Harmony things from us,
so we would do a lot of that. Um and
that stuff went viral, and then Somebody Does was the
first probably original to go viral. When you get that
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first viral anything, it's pretty awesome, it's a it's addicting. Yes,
then you just chase it, oh yeah, because you're like, wow,
we just had a video go big, Like why did
it go big? What can I how can we do
this again? And if we don't do it again, don't
mean we suck. I mean it starts to really be
like something like you're messing with your mind. But when
you have something that's original, go big, I gotta imagine
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that that is just so much more fulfilling. Oh, yeah,
oh yeah. That was the first time people were covering
the song before it was out, and we had never
had that. We you know, we are fans, have always
liked our music, but never before was it people who
had never heard of us. They didn't care if we
were Tiger Lily or not. They didn't care about us necessarily.
They just loved the song. They just love the song.
And I always say, I don't even know if it
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would have mattered who put this song out, but um,
obviously luckily it was us. But we were just so
thankful that the song reached so many people, and it
was this song particularly because it has such a positive,
impactful message and I think it really coming out of
the pandemic here especially hit the right time. People are alone,
they feel isolated. Um, they don't know if they matter enough.
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And we just really wanted to give the old hug,
which is what we were talking about in the writing
room that day, because we were looking, I don't think
the world wants to hear another love. I cannot do
a love another love and break up some people? You
care about that? Right now? I'm like, there's so much
going on, right do they do care about you? But
that day that's how we felt. So I was looking
at some of the people that you guys have written
with Walker obviously, when you're ate with Walker, he was
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an artist that was starting to have some roots as
an artist, but was known as just a wonderful songwriter,
great dude, just different thinker as far as Walker, but
now Shane mcinally Trevor from Old Dominion, Josh Osborne like,
these are real heavyweights. Yeah, the first couple of times
you get in these rooms, are you so intimidated that
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you're afraid to speak? Or do you have so much
confidence you're like, I know what I'm doing. It's a
it's a middle ground. It's nice to have each other
each other. Yes, we always have each other because we
always write together. So that's really nice because being alone
in that situation would be a little more terrifying to me.
And our first write with uh Shane and Josh was
actually UH over Skype or whatever, so it wasn't as
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intimidating because we weren't actually in the same room. But
I remember logging onto the zoom call for that though,
when I was like, I'm just praying I liked the song.
I wasn't doubting that we would come up with something.
I wasn't doubting their abilities or our abilities. I just
wanted to like the song that I wrote with Shane
mcinally and Josh Osborne because that's a big deal. And
we waited for that right for how much longer years
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ever since moved to Nashvillette. So we wanted to write
with uh and we did. We ended up cutting the song.
We liked the song. So hell are you? But who
is the coolest or a say, most famous person to comment?
I wanted your TikTok's where you go? Oh that's pretty cool.
They just comment this blue checkmark by their name and
they commented on the TikTok. I don't know, but Lady
Antebellin followed us the other day, so that was cool. Yeah,
it's uh, you know stuff like that. I mean we
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I commented, well, we were part of this six five
house early on and all the celebrities like Keith Urban,
so our stuff a little big town share of the stuff. Um.
So we got a lot of tension from that. Is
there in that? And I've gotten to know not closely,
but through some things like this Ashley Cook that's her name, right,
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Actually make sure I'm getting names right, Um, Priscilla blocked
for maybe a little bit. What is that like with
all of you there at the same time? All right again?
Are you all fighting for air on that account? So
none of us really knew what we were doing when
we started it, Ashley and Chris who was the other
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guy who kind of started it, Chris Rudigger. He's just
kind of a new artist doing that thing. No, no one,
it's not dissolved. The main group that did it, we
never really get together. It's kind of like we were
all had so much time in pandemic. We all would
meet and just make cool cover videos together and then
everyone got really busy basically, which was great. You know,
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everyone's doing their own thing, their own soul. It's really
fun for while it lasted. But we don't know, we
haven't done it so long. I think it's um, you
get in, you learn, you go, okay, this was cool,
Now let me go do a thing. And we met
really great people through it. I mean honestly, we talk
to each other all the time, the people in the
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group and the artists, and we keep up and encourage everyone,
you know, on whatever whatever everyone's doing and things like that.
So that's fun. It wasn't. I really didn't feel like
it was everyone fighting for the camera. It was everyone
just kind of chilling, having a good time, getting to
know each other sort of thing. Uh, was based off
the l A thing, right, wasn't like so TikTok And
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I still I am kind of figuring this out even
though we were in it. On TikTok, there's houses, So
there's in l A. They have certain houses that really
famous TikTok ers go to and create content, or like
the Hype House or something. Yeah. Yeah, And so Ashley
and Chris had this idea for the six one five house,
which would be like nash the Nashville House. We're up
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and coming people who were bigger on TikTok could come
together and collaborate based I don't know if it matters.
I don't really consider you guys. I knew that you
got when I was like looking over some notes, I
was like, oh, yeah, I guess they did have a
part of that, But I don't really consider you guys
part of that foundation good or bad. No, No, it
was just kind of it was super fun for while
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we did it, and uh, you know, we'll always kind
of be a part of it, I guess, but we
haven't been able to do it for a while. So
you guys are both in your twenties. When I say,
Travis Barker, Okay, what do you think of, well, now,
Courtney Kardashian. But I know that's the relie, but yeah,
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this is the this is the thing that I have
with you with my wife, and she's twenty nine and
she doesn't know Travis Barker from Blank two. It's just
a generation thing. She's like, I know Travis Barker from
Courtney Garder. Actually I know. I was like, I shouldn't
say that, but do you How do you know Travis Parker?
Is that Corney Kardashia? Well, I mean I knew his name,
but now I've just seen him in the news so
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much lately because of that, so that's the most recent
memory of him. People compare you mostly to whom the
Dixie Chicks, probably because everybody gets compared with everybody knew
gets compared to somebody older. I mean, we don't really
sound like the Dixie Chicks, but definitely like the vibe
when we play um and just like that energy is
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something we definitely want to have in our career, and
I think that's a great, great compliment. Um. And then
and sometimes Sugarland just because I have more of an
alto voice and I listened to Jennifer Nettles growing up
so much, so sugar Land a little bit. Jennifer Nettles,
you don't sound like Christian Bush fun that way. Um,
But Sugarland Dixie Chicks are what surprising is we actually
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don't get compared to Maddie and Tait. Obviously they've been
crushing it for plast six or seven years, and uh,
I've actually never met them. They seem like IMPI they
don't like you guys, but they are. But I was like,
because obviously it's what you, you know, worry a little about,
is you know, both girl duos and there people get
to comparis against each other. And it's been actually really
(49:10):
nice because I think we have such different sounds, um,
just sonically. And but yeah, I think it's like there's
to me, there's so much more room. I always say
this too, It's like why does there have to be
one girl? Do there's so much more room for all
the girl duos or whatever. So but yeah, mostly Dixie
Chicks And then uh, I don't know if people the
Maddie and Take comparison, I haven't heard it. I understand
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get it when you say that. If people starting comparing
you to Maddie and Take, that's awesome because that means
are comparing you to people that have made it exactly.
I mean we've gotten that. Like a couple of times.
I just say thank you. I mean, what else am
I supposed to say? And then then you grow your
direction like it's awesome to be compared to somebody who
is known enough to be compared to. Yeah, exactly. Yeah,
you guys did The Young and the Restless as you
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as your first major TV Yes, yeah, our first time
in l A was doing that. What do you do? So?
So we played r EP songs for the Sony Sync
department out of l A. So this is for people listening.
It's like for TV movies to play songs and shows, yes, commercially.
So we were like expecting maybe one of our songs
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to be placed somewhere, but instead, after that meeting, um,
one of the ladies, Abbey said she there's this thing
I could cast you guys in for The Young and
the Restless, the soap opera would would that be something
y'all would like. And we've never really acted. I mean
we've done stuff in school plays in high school. Did
in the show too. Oh yeah, we had lines and everything.
Oh yeah, it was a whole scene. So so we
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actually got the part, which was something I thought we
were going to be casted for and not actually get it.
You know how this industry is like, Okay, maybe that'll happen,
maybe not on the soap oper Sure it's not gonna happen.
So we we did get the parts and we flew
to l A and we had just one little sing.
I mean, it wasn't like this whole episode, but we
had lines that we had to memorize. Do you remember
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your line? We love hearing that our songs means so
much to our fans, or something like that. But they
asked us as Tiger Lily in The Young and the Restless,
so they wrote in their characters as a girl from
the show was a huge Tiger Lily fan, so we
surprised her in a coffee shop and then talk to
her and sang it also makes people think that you're
a bigger it's a bigger deal than you. She's a
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huge fan of Tiger why why aren't I you know?
And then they said they've had Jewel and Katy Perry
and Lionel Richie and all these really famous people in
the show. And I'm like, how did we get this?
And you sang a cafella on the show. We sang
dig Yourself, the song we wrote with Shane and Josh
and Trevor Um and we just, you know, because you
always do that when you're in a coffee shop with someone,
(51:38):
you just burst. The line was, would you like to
hear one of our sneak preview of one of our
new songs? I know you really did yourself? And I
don't even have my guitar. It was full on like snaps, Yeah,
here is some of dig Yourself. This is actually from
the young and they just not everything's always about Joe
(52:01):
because you've got against you show un will you really
did yourself? Why don't you did yourself? A home making
all the way to shut up? But I don't know,
Fun says, So what's the next Obviously we'll get into
(52:26):
the holidays so that it's kind of a checkout time
in this town, but like, what's the plan for next year?
Do you guys have I mean we've been writing a
lot lately. I feel like we definitely go in seasons
of full on promo, new music releasing, and now, um,
we still have some fun stuff coming for the holidays actually,
which is exciting because we never fully stop. Um, but
(52:49):
we are just writing a lot and hopefully into the
studio again with project number two next year. I mean,
we don't have a date set or anything, and um,
thankfully I think hopefully Shane will produce again. We we
love that guy and it's been so fun working with him.
And UM, I listened to actually the podcast that you
did with Shane four years ago. Yeah, I listened to
that this morning and I was like, I just feel
(53:09):
like this is what I should listen to, and it
was just fun hearing he only had Caitlin and Walker
at that time, and uh, we're now with him and
this label and it's just it's really fun. So I
did reminisce on that this morning. Well, Caitlin and Walker
are my favorites, but very incredible and have made such
a point too, because I feel like they both were
super talented, very undervalued, where I am not talented and
(53:32):
very overvalued. So I took them both out with me
just to make my shows better so that hey, I
took them both on the road and they would just
blow my audiences away and I would be like that,
I'm talking about my favorite artist if you just give
him a shot. Yeah, And so it's been so cool
to see both of them explode, even Caitlin with Dominion. Now,
oh yeah, they're incredible. Um, you got you're in at
the right time with this group, and now we're very,
(53:54):
very very lucky we were in good hands Monuments. It's
such it was such an out of the box venture
at first, but it wasn't so much out of the box.
It was just a little ahead of its time. But
now the time is catching up with it and they're
sitting there waiting at the right time, taking the right decision.
Had this huge, massive hit this year, and I'm just
so happy for him and and all the success that
(54:16):
he's had, and um and and all the Monument team,
and it's just been fun seeing everyone really succeed this year,
and you know, us getting to see the small parts
of it all and uh, now being a part of
this whole team. But yeah, we gotta sometimes to take
a step back and look at ourselves. A year ago
and say how. I mean, we're very We've worked really
hard for it, so I'm not going to undermine us
(54:36):
at all. But how did we get here? I mean,
we're very, very fortunate, because I've always said it, Yeah,
it takes hard work, talent, but it's also luck too.
The right person just has to hear you got to
work hard to get into look. Yes, work really hard
to get to the look. I mean the goal is
to work so hard that people are confused. How you
became an overnight sensation? Yeah exactly, I mean, and it's
(54:58):
to grind it out for ten fifteen years. All of
a sudden something hits and they're like, wow, wow, loo,
could you did it overnight? And you're like, okay, whatever
you think, I'll take it. But you know, and it's
such a luxury. And I'll say this to you now,
before you get so tired. I was talking about Walker,
and there are seasons of my years where I live
so exhausted because it took me so long to hit
in any way that it's you'll start to get irritable
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and tired and and a bit resentful. But that's what
you worked for to be able to be tired and
exhausted doing what you love to do, what you moved
across the country to do. So this is gonna blow
up for you, guys. I can I can see it.
I don't say that too many people. This is this
is gonna be a really big deal for you guys.
You two is gonna be great, is gonna be fantastic.
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It's gonna snowball for you guys. But it's also gonna
get so tiring. You're gonna be I mean, relationships are
gonna be strained. You're gonna have to but it's awesome.
And when that happens to you, you just remember, we're
so lucky to be this tired. Yeah, I love that
so much. And then you eventually get out of it
and you'll you'll be like me and you have a
shoe close like a hundred pair of shoes and get
and it gets great again. But just the one nugget
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to take from me here who has been in a
struggle situation for a long time, is that it gets
really it's so much harder than it does right now.
And I know you guys feel like you've worked so
hard to get here. It gets so much harder. But
as you're dying. Just remember you're so lucky to be
dying because I get to see big things for you guys.
Thank you so much much, thank you for that. I
don't even say that to me. I didn't tell Shane that.
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I thought. I was like, Shane, you know we done
a couple of years. I was like, show, we think
about that so much. As we worked eight years to
get to this point. We're just starting so much. We
just signed our record deal and that's when you know,
finally National starts paying attention and you start getting all
these big things. But we're just starting. You have been
a pleasure to talk to you. I did not expect
(56:49):
to do an hour with you guys. Oh well, mostly
I'm just like, hey, let's talk about some stuff. We'll
see where it goes. But you guys have it. I
don't exactly know what it is. But that's the best
thing about it. I haven't heard saying in person. I've
just heard your music on you know, you playing it
on Spotify or watching you guys on Instagram um or TikTok.
(57:11):
But you just have it. So and your sister, so
I believe you will stay together. Yes, we will have
to do you have to so let me say this,
by the way, I'll play one more. Let's play Everybody's
on Something. Here's the track four. Everybody's on s Everybody's
on him model, but still everybody anything, Everybody's on song.
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I mean that might be a favorite one on the record. Honestly,
you know, I played it last, and I hate to
always say that's my favorite because but I think of
the songs, I think that that one of that group
of five songs is my favorite one, just because we'll
get them all in. Mike here has known you forever. Time.
It takes one to know one together. Some time it's
(58:16):
not you know, but they know your someone whoever you
can follow Tiger Lily and let me say it's spelled differently,
like you mentioned, it's tie girl, yes, Billy, tie girl Lily. Yes,
(58:41):
it's still said tiger Lily. Yes, but you could probably
be confused easily tie t I girl Billy. That's even
weird to say like that. That's perfect though, it's it's
exactly how you just said Tiger Lily on TikTok. They're
just over, you know, killing it everywhere. Let me go
over to the room. Usually go to the guys. Mike
is there anything you'd like to say before we wrap
this up. I would say my one North Dakota story
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is when I was with you selling merch, I took
a picture with somebody and I thought it was somebody
who would recognize me from the show. And the reason
they take a picture with me because they had never
seen a Mexican. Sadly will say, there's not a lot
of diversity North Kota. But I'm so sorry, but it
was the nicest form of racism. I forgot about that. Yeah,
(59:29):
I read anything you'd like to say to Tiger Lily.
I don't have any racism story. That's great, but I
think you all are great and I enjoyed it. Thank
you so much. Thank you. Well. With that, we will
will say goodbye, and I just don't don't expect this
to be the last time that I see you guys.
And most people, I would say, one out of five
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people after they leave this room at the radio show,
they die or retire. So I feel good about you guys.
I love that. I though they are you guys. Go
check out Tiger Lily. Uh they're doing three more Dirk
shows and that's never gonna happen again. I'm gonna tell
you because they're they're blowing up all right. Good to
talk to you guys, Thanks for having us M
Welcome to episode three. We have on the girls from
Tiger Lily, their sisters, and just how their whole story
came together. It's it's it's pretty amazing. Here is a
clip of Somebody does from Tiger Lily's Crazy in the Morning.
(00:24):
Somebody enjoyed it a lot more than I thought I would. Yeah,
not that I didn't think I would enjoy it. I
just didn't know them, But I really enjoyed this interview,
So hang out for that. Top five releases this week,
(00:46):
Thomas Rhett has a new song called Slow Down Summer.
You can't see down fast In this song fine never
seen them Riding. At number four, Post Malone and The
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Weekend have a new song called one Right Now, Thank
You So Easy, I Got one coming. At number three
Low Cash they have a new EP called Woods and
Water and here's a new song called Beach Boys. Let's
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stick Cavery saying Tennessee catch you, John Cantamaran, get a
little bit of rid on ridden shout a lab in
the bottom Mum. At number two, Dina Carter released the
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anniversary edition of her album Did I Shave My Legs
for This? There is a new version of Strawberry Wine
with Lauren Elena, Martina McBride, Ashley McBride, Kylie Morgan and
Vince gil on guitar on the banks of the river.
Wrong well, Vaden past. It's funny how those memories the
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last Extrawberry one sad and at number one, Tanil Towns
has a new song called Villain and Me Boys, whats
I save? Allless things about myself found to the heavy
(02:39):
glass the only leaving if range try to be and
he rolled to bruce me to mine. Yeah, there's a
villain in the ere. You go check out some new
music this week and let's get over and here the
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interview with Tiger Lily. Thanks for having yeah, sorry that
today and we're rolling so anything you say can and
we'll be used against. Sorry. I got delayed a few
hours today and I called Mike and I said, hey, listen,
these girls want to cancel on me. I get it.
But thanks for being flexible and coming up here a
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couple of hours later, your big stars. Now you know
I had to, you know, blow off big stars. I
was having a minor, minor medical emergency today. No I'm not,
and that's why I'm still. I am fine. Feel like
I might say no I'm not. You guys are like
they really sold out for us. Um No, but I'm great,
So it's good to finally meet you guys. So your sisters.
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Who's the two year older sister? But I look younger
because I tell the chubby cheeks like that'll keep me
younger for a while. But Krista is twenty three and
I'm so Kendra Krista. Yes, you would almost think you
were twins because of the case, because the very similar look. Um.
And I asked Mike, as it, are they twins, and
(04:04):
he said no, But I could see where people confuse that.
You also can't tell who's older and who's younger. Um,
and you sound like and your your harmony sound like
sisters when you get singing together. That's a hard thing
to get unless your family. Yeah. We uh, that's a
very popular question for us. As are you twins but
just sisters? I mean, I wish it could be twins,
I guess, but we kind of feel like Anyways, we've
been singing together for over eight years and at this
(04:26):
point we lived together, we have a career together, we
are together seven so might as well be twins? Yes,
until they kicked me out. Her and her husband have
a house, and I runt from them. So I'm like,
just let me know. I guess I want to get out.
I like it here. We have to get a few
number ones and then you'll move out exactly. So let
me get this straight again, because the caves are confusing.
Kendra Chris. Yes, and we actually have another little sister, Carly.
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Our parents could never get it right. What's with the case.
I have no idea. Carly are younger sister. Was brooke
for a while and it just didn't sit right. So
now it's Kendra Christa Carle And usually Carly is the
one who's in trouble most. And so if either of
us like, you know, we're in trouble by our parents
growing up and be like Carly Christa Kendra ah, and yeah,
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so I figured our name is wrong. I really don't care. No,
I answered to both. Honestly, it's it's fine. Is musical
the younger sister. You know, we tried to get her
to join the band when we were starting out, and
she hated being on stage and she loves music to death.
She honestly not a huge country music fan, which is
kind of funny considering that's what we love obviously she
(05:33):
saw she likes Tiger Lily though she's a huge tire
early fan, which I guess is the most important part.
But no, she loves music, but she would never want
to do this. Your parents are they musical? Not at all?
Very weird my I mean, we grew up going to
church and singing in church all the time, and our
parents always played music around us, you know, when we
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would go to bed at night, in the car, wherever
we were at, there was always music. But they and
they put us some piano lessons at a young age too.
They're always music advocates. But it just was something that
came naturally to us. And Kendra love being on stage.
Right away. She was doing every talent show she could.
I think our grandma forced her to be in this
cool Gate country showdown a very very long time ago,
so she kind of got the performing bug. And then
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I caught up to her and started playing guitar and
writing songs, and I'm like this, this looks fun. I
don't want to be left in the dust. So naturally
I started accompanying her for her shows and it was
always Kendra and friends, So I really upgraded in the
past couple of years, so um started learning harmony. We
listened to all these harmony, big harmony bands like Rascoe
(06:36):
Flats and stuff growing up, so learned that and we've
been doing music ever since. A big decision to make
more than a friend, I know, Kendra and Friends was
you know, it had a ring to it, but I
guess this works a lot better. So, you know the
I have a comedy duo that we tour pretty regularly.
It's my friend Eddie and myself and we're called Bobby
Bones and the Raging Idiots and Eddie's all the Raging Idiots,
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and it's similar because it is Bobby Bones and the
Raging Idiots like Bobby and Friends. And that started because
I was doing stand up and I would headline and
then the Raging Idiots would play as well. So it
ended up being on every sign it was a Bobby
Bones and the Raging Idiots and so it was like
and he was like, I don't care, I don't give
a crap, but I'm glad you stood up and you're
more than just two friends. Right. It was a big
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step for us. So so as the little sister, do
you think you pursued music because you loved music or
you loved your sister. I think it was a combination,
to be honest, I always loved playing music and I
don't know what made me start writing songs either at
the age of ten, uh but both. And I'm also
I'm not competetive. I'm not competitive anymore. But I was like,
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I don't want her like I gotta do this too.
I mean, we played sports as kids, we did everything,
and I was always just trying to beat the older sister.
That was all it was. So in this, I'm like,
I'm not gonna I'm not gonna beat Kendra's main vocals,
so I'm not I can't beat her in this. Clearly
she's got a thing. Go how do I join? So?
How do I join this with a kind of finding
my own way in path, in my own role within
the duo? Which is weird because people ask us all
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the time if we fight or disagree on stuff. But
I think we've established our roles from a very very
young age and it's worked out for us. What are
those roles? So I'm assuming you are for better at
worth the lead vocalists, Yes, so I do all. I mean,
Chris every once in a while, she'll take a lead
line here and there, or do like the saground, yeah,
(08:25):
a lead background part, but I mostly do all the
main vocals. And then I grew up playing piano. I
don't play a lot anymore, just because we're always with
the guitar now whenever, whenever we do something um and
Kristy naturally just picked up guitar, and she's amazing at
harmony and can do all the things that I could
not do. So it really just meshed so well together.
And and when we play, we know we have we're
(08:49):
better at these certain things. I'm better at at main vocals,
and you're way better at harmony than I ever will
be in your better at guitar, So it honestly works.
We don't feel like we're stepping all over each other.
And I feel like that's why a lot of bands
end up breaking up is because no, I'm better, I'm better,
My songs are better. My songs are better. Yeah, the
egos getting the way and for us, we try to
like leave that aside and just do it's best for
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Tiger Louie. At the end of the day, a lot
of the great duos know their strengths individually that creates
a better duo. Um. I'm really good friends with Dan
and Shay and have been before they were the massive
Dan and Shay, but you could talk to them and
Shay sings his face off and it's fantastic. But Dan
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is the guy that's running the group, and you wouldn't
know that because she's upfront. But they understand each other's
roles dance, producing the crap. I say crap in a
loving way like he's on it. He's sonically there, and
he also knows though that without Shay singing, what he's
doing isn't going to be near as good as if
it wasn't Shay. So you see with duo's Ronnie and Kicks,
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Brooks and Donn like they know their strengths. I think
it also helps that your sisters, right like you, also
have been in real life fights, and you probably realize
that the fights that you're getting into about music aren't
even real life fights because it's it's not, you know,
blood fight. I always say, I don't know. Obviously, Dan
and Say have a good relationship. They probably seemed like
they're brothers at this point, I would imagine, But I
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cannot be in a band with someone who is just
a friend because we have no filter. We'll go into
a writing room and say, hey, we are very blunt
with each other, uh, just fore warning. But we just
tell each other how it is and there's no backlash.
There's no one getting offended. It's just like, hey, we're
fighting for the best thing for the song, for the band.
But we are just so straightforward and our are rebound rate.
If we do get in a quick fight is two seconds,
(10:38):
like work back at it. And you've had many years
to do this. That isn't music related. I mean there's
something too being siblings. Yeah, yeah, you have fought about
many things. Don't take my clothes. Yeah, that means you
also understand that every fight is in death. Most fights
aren't death. And if it is a fight that seems
like death, you're also gonna get through because you've gotten
through it when it has nothing to do with music, right,
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So I think there's real length to you know, having
a sibling as a partner. You guys are from North Dakota.
I've been there a few times. I would say, where
have you been in North Dakota. I've done some shows
I've done and I have I have great memories but
wild stories from North Dakota. Really a lot of fans
out there. I love it. It's just hard to get there. Oh,
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it's so. It's so expensive to get there. And we
play there a lot, and like to play a full
band show up in North Dakota costs a lot of
money because you gotta get everybody up there. So I
have played in a couple of places. I played in
Bismarck in Grand Forks, and I remember it was cold.
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And here's what I loved about it. I'll do what
I didn't like and what I loved because what I
didn't like, which is how hard it was to get there.
And we drove forever. It's a long ways and it's
a long ways with nothing in between. I hate it
that much. It was just kind of like I should
we'd like to get there, right. But when I got there,
I remember I was doing um, I was doing a
stand up show in Bismarck, and I was playing at
(12:04):
a really nice theater. Did you say okay? Possibly, Yeah,
that's definitely. That's the only one, okay, And the people
were they were so And I'm from Arkansas, so I
say this as someone who comes from an extremely rural
town where nobody goes, much smaller though than Bismarck. I
felt like they were just happy that I was there.
(12:25):
And I really could have just went up on stage
and sucked, and they had just been like, but we
still love you because you came to see us. And
and also I felt pretty good. I performed pretty well
that night, and I remember just feeling such love from
that crowd, that state, that area. I went to my
hotel and they came and tracked me down to my
hotel and I was like, and it was this borderline.
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It wasn't creepy. It was a little bit over the
boundary because I was just going to sleep, but it
was a loving boundary break. And I remember thinking, I
really like these people. They're the most lovely people, the
most kind people. They probably just wanted to hang all night,
for the whole night. If it would have been if
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I'd have been in Boston, I'd have been like, guys, chill,
I what's happening here? Right? But I was like, you
know what, I like it that they're like trying to
hang after the show. There was one hotel across from
the in they knew, they knew what I was staying,
and they were walking down the hall searching for me,
and so I should have been scared, but I wasn't.
But it was a very loving place where they welcomed me.
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And we're just happy that I was there. And so
for that, I have this this great memory, two memories
of going to North Dakota. Yeah, I love that. I mean,
I mean so many times when we introduce ourselves that
we're from North Dakota, obviously, people always say they've never
met anyone from North Dakota and they've never been there.
So it really excites us when people actually have been there,
be there and have experienced it. And h we played
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this last weekend in Nashville and there was a big
hockey game where the college um hockey team from North
Dakota was playing at bridge Stone and so there was
a bunch of North Dakotan's in town and we were
playing Ain't at Dirk Smentley's Whiskey row Um just like
this four hour show on Saturday. And after the show
was done, because it was packed with North Codins and
we walked in and we like we were like the
(14:11):
superstars that we came. Everyone was cheering because our home
state is so supportive of what we do and it's
a big reason why we've gotten to this point so far.
And it's just I don't know, it was just incredible
to see that feeling and feel that way. But I
talked to the bar staff afterwards and I was like,
you know, sorry, it was kind of crazy today, Like
(14:32):
there were so many people coming in and da da
da da, and they were like, we wanted to be mad,
but these people were the nicest people and all they
did was drink beer, Like they were just hanging out
drinking beer being the nice exactly. They're like, we wanted
to be mad, but we couldn't. So when did you
two decide that we are going to be a duo
and an actual entity? Um? I don't know if it
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was before you called yourself Tiger Lily, but did you
guys sit and decide that we're not going to be
and Drew and Friends were going to be? When did
that happen? Well, there was one more step, So it
was Kendren friends and then and then it was Kendra
and Krista. So I made the bill. I made the bill,
and then I guess that four I was fourteen, she
was sixteen, and we sat down and said, hey, we
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need a new band name because this is just not
cutting it anymore. Kendre and Christ is way too clunky.
You know, it's just too hard to say. We did
not have the luxury of having a Dan and Shay
or Brooks and Done type of thing going on. And
our last name is sleigh Ball, so that was out.
But we sat down and hey, we need a new
band name. So we came up with tiger Lily, which
was the first flower to grow in our parents backyard
in North Dakota, so it reminded us of home. Changed
(15:38):
his sphone to tig Girl Lilly for obvious reasons, and
uh literally stuck with that. But we get asked so much,
when did you decide this is something you wanted to do.
We always love music, but we never knew we could
have a career out of it. It wasn't something we
knew because North Dakota is very much grow up. We
go to college four years, you get a job there,
you make really good money, stay with your family. That
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the culture. Obviously, what do you do there? That not
not you guys, but where I come from, there was
a sawmill. People in my town stayed and worked at
the sawmill until the sawmill went out of business and
now it's just kind of an s show. But where
you guys are from, what do people do when they
do stay around? So we're from Haze in North Dakota.
So our town is basically coal, oil, um and farming
(16:21):
and farming, and that's really the whole state of North Dakota.
A lot of farming, oil and coal and up on
a farm. Uh No, we grew up in town. Or
Dad is actually a respiratory therapist, so he worked at
the hospital. So we really had nothing to do with
any of the popular industries. But we grew up in town.
Our town was people. Um so are graduating classes were
thirty and sixty Yeah, about the same size. Um So
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we always say we don't we write country music from
the perspective of being from small town North Dakota because
we never experienced the country southern thing that a lot
of country artists do. So we try to not right
about that as much and more about small town where
we come from, what we know, um just to be
(17:05):
real and then we can relate and feel like we
know what we're talking about a little bit. More people
a town that's mostly you know, rural. That's a country
as anything else, right exactly. I think it's funny because
we grew up thinking, oh, we live in town. You know,
we're city girls and stuff, and then we moved to
Nashville like, oh we are country. We are really country. Actually,
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what was when I grew up town was a town
called Hot Springs that had twenty people. Um. Little Rock
was the massive city that had three hundred thousand people.
Um so, I mean Little Rock was like New York
City to me in Little in Arkansas? What was town?
What was the city? Like? What was that relationship from
where you were and how far did you have to drive?
(17:47):
Bismarck was our hour away town, nearest Target, Starbucks, anything
we wanted like that. So on weekends, you know, to
go to Bismarck was the exciting thing to do. Was
the trip where you go to Sam's Club or Costco
or whatever and uh stock groceries and you know, yeah,
so everything that we wanted to do would be an
(18:07):
hour away. And then Fargo is the big city of
North Dakota, which is not even that big. I mean
I think the whole state's population is six hundred thousand people.
So it's a really small state. Um, but yeah, fargoes
like the cool, hipming trendy sit four hours. So if
we went to a concert, like if we went to
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go see Taylor Swift, we drive to Fargo and it
was this the biggest thing ever And it was like
we got to eat and go to see Taylor Swift
and it was a big deal. It was a huge deal.
We just spend the night, Yes, four hours to spend
the night. Yeah. Usually, I mean there were trips where
we would drive back if my dad had if he
was on call or had to work or you know whatever.
But most of the time we'd stay the night and
then come back the next day. So you're you just
(18:51):
said this, so correct me. But if you're teenagers when
you come up with the name Tiger Lillard, I mean
that's been ten years. It's wild that you have kept
that name. No, I know, fourteen and sixteen, because we'll
make a lot of dumb decisions at fourteen, and what
I say, I'm like, we're still lucky we still like
that somehow because now we're twenty three and we've still
kept that name. Because a lot of bands go through
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name changes in that amount of time. Um, so yeah,
it's almost been ten years, which makes me feel so old.
And then I think about what we've done in Nashville
and we're still so new and we still have so
far to go, which is really exciting to me, honestly,
but it just takes so much time and the hours,
the amount of time we've put in, and how much
we've learned just by trial and air through doing it
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in high school and um into college and then moving
to Nashville and and all this stuff. Did you guys
go to college or one or both? Did you go
to college in North Dakota? I went to the University
of North Dakota for a semester, and then we really
weren't doing well. We kind of are like, how can
we do tirely? So I actually stopped going to college,
came back home, lived at home while she finished high school,
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which was that was a big turning point because I
think up until that point it was very easy to do,
Like our parents would help us out, they would drive
us to shows. Yes, we were both in high school
and we would do shows on the weekend and it
was all very natural, um for us. And then Kendra
moved four hours away, and it got really hard to
do tiger lily stuff. And at that point I was like, Okay,
do we like this as a hobby? Is it something
like how we do on the weekends? How far do
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we want to tin or is this what we want
to do? Like where do we see ourselves in five years?
And it wasn't North Dakota. It was Nashville. We always
had a goal to move to Nashville. So both of
you together, which is a big deal, you both knew
you would come to Nashville. Yes, it was always in
the back of our minds, and so moving from North
Dacota to Nashville was like a big deal. It was,
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I mean, moving to Nashville is a big city. We
knew a handful of people, but we didn't know a
lot of people. Uh so that was a big move
for us. But we we weren't really scared because I
think at that point, we're already we had played every
single small town in North Dakota. We had played every county,
fair we even you know, throughout the Midwest. We had
played so many shows and we were like, we kind
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of had done everything we could, so we can either
keep doing this, which would be fine, and a lot
of people make a great living plane in their state,
or we can move and see what happens. Were you
guys getting a little heat in North Dakota, like people
were like starting to know you were and maybe a
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little following at a club or restaurant. Yeah, so we
did so much North Dakota. We actually side note, we
released a song called North Dakota but many years does
not it does not exist anymore anywhere. I'm just gonna
put that out there, so don't look it up. But
it went viral within the state. And that was a
sophomore in high school, and that gave us cred to
go to our the We were the openers. If a
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big act would come into town, they would ask us
to open. So they gave us so much trust and credibility.
And we would go to our schools when we were
still in high school and give speeches and play at
at different schools around the state too, which is a
really good way for us to get in front of
our own peers and have people have an ability to
know who we are. And so yeah, we kind of
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just became the girls. Like if you had a gig
or if you had um, you know, an opening slot
called Tigerli, so that became what we did. Allow me
to be ignorant for a second. Who else from North
Dakota has made it in music or just general? The
celebrities are Carson Wentz obviously, football player Josh Tohmel actor
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um Haagy Lee was the last person to be signed
by a major record label. If correct me if I'm wrong,
I think that's right. So it's been, It's not much so.
Whiz Khalifa was born in my not North Yes, on
the Air Force base. Though. Okay, well you know with Whiz,
I think of Pittsburgh. You know, I think you're big.
But I don't know if he claims that, but I
do know that I only feel like I can ask
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these questions with general curiosity. That not being an insult
because people ask me the same craft about Arkansas and
they're like, what comes from Arkansas? And I'm like, well,
Johnny Cash for the Orioles in nineteen I mean, you know,
so it's it's pretty cool that you have your state
behind you, because that does give you some confidence coming here.
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But I assume when you and I know that's true,
when you come to Nashville, it's like you're starting over
nobody gives a crap, but we knew that at least.
So there's and I say this in the most complimentary way,
there's a hundred versions of you out there and you're
just trying to gasp for air to find how you're
different and what your sound is. So when you decide
to move to Nashville, you pack up a truck. This
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is it the U haul? What do you do? Our
parents helped us drive down. Did Grandma grandpa even come? Yeah? Yeah,
I think our grandma grandpa, whole family thing. We just
from North Dakota to Nashville, drove down and we so
we were moving to Nashville. And then we actually signed
up for college at Belmont and Mt s U UM
and we like register for classes at both because we
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didn't know really how we were going to get down
here and what the way was yet. And then we
realized that tuition, since we were in state, was about
the same at Belmont as it was at Mt SU
And then we got some grants to go to Belmont
UM and things like that, so it ended up working.
We so we both started out at Belmont as sophomores,
which is why a lot of people think we're twins
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as well, because we graduated at the same time. So
you guys went and finished school. Then when yeah, we
have our music business degrees. Baby, Well I thought the
story was you went, you said, okay, schools not for me.
We tried it, We're going to do music. But you
came back. I I. She had to pull me a
little bit. Kendra cried on her first day school, like
I can't go back to this. What am I doing?
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What are you guys doing at Belmont? Then? Are you learning?
Are you vocal? Or did music business? Yeah? Because we were,
I mean we we kind of thought we were writing
songs so much and doing so much that we want
We wanted knowledge in my contracts and know what it
meant in a different area. And so um we went
from music business and got that degree. Finished up during COVID,
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so we never actually like walked to the stage, but
after just finished twenty Yeah, so you're playing as you're
going to school. Yes, So Nashville looks like the earliers
of Nashville. You just really hit it hard because when
you moved to town, everybody is says you have to
do everything right away. You have to really just network
and bust your button, try to do everything you can.
So we're going to school full time, playing three or
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four times downtown Nashville on Broadway. So it's four hour sets,
three times a week to make a living. So you
wanted to stay in Nashville, you know, and writing three
I guess three times a week. So we had no
social lives, I mean, which is okay. I mean, that's
how we met all of our people. But um, that's
just what you got to do when you came to Nashville.
And there were times we were exhausted and why are
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we doing this? We're playing all these four hour gigs
and it feels like no one's listening. What's the point?
I feel like that today? It never leaves you ext
Why am I doing this? So that never leaves? But
you do it because yeah, you still somehow even when
you feel like, oh, I don't know if I can
do this another day, then you just you keep doing
it because what else are you going to do? Because
this is all you've known and done and what else
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is still this is still better than something else, you
know what I mean? And we told ourselves when we
moved down here, we want to do whatever it takes
to make a living off of music. That's always been
our day one, our bottom line, make a living off
of music, doing whatever kind of gigs you can, but
do music. And so that's why we started playing downtown
where it's like, hey, we can meet so many cool
people downtown because you have people people don't realize. It's
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all parts of America and other countries coming to Nashville
to see country music. And so you're gonna meet all
these new people. And we got to play our original songs.
And yeah, it's exhausting gigs, but we made that work.
Put the banner up so people can follow you on Instagram. Yeah,
but it's all worth it. And I don't know, there's
just no one straight line to success, but we just
did whatever it took. Honestly, I think that straight ish
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line to success. And this is as cliche as possible,
but it's just grinding it out, hard work and not
quitting when you should probably quit, can quit. If you
can make it past that point, that's usually when the
as things happen. If you start thinking, maybe this isn't
for me, it's not. It should be so difficult, you
have to question yourself, and when questioning yourself, you should go, Yeah,
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that's right, I am doing this. It's it's stupid and
and it's it's people shouldn't be doing this, but I
want to do it. I'm going to do it. Someone's
going to do it, so it might as well be using.
So you're where did you start playing in Nashville? Because
you got to make those calls? Yeah, so we first
the first bar was at Nudi's Honky Talk. So our
parents loved that when we called and said, hey, mom
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and dad, we you know we're playing at Nudi's. How
did you get the gig? Did you call yourself and
like hustle on the phone. I don't remember had it.
We had to audition, but I think our drummer at
the time had a connection there and was like, hey,
do you guys want to jump in on this gig?
You have to do an audition thing. And so we
did the audition. I remember we missed class for the audition.
It was so personal audition when you to go and
play for like we play the four hour gig. The
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audition was a full four hour. They said, hey, we'll
give you a really I mean not crappy, but yeah,
Monday morning shift, there's no one it's very low risk
for them obviously if we suck. So they're basically seeing
if we can play for four hours and entertain the crowd.
And they liked us enough to keep us around. And
then we played at Bailey's, which is now a different bar.
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It's lucky. Let me stop for a second. You're playing
four hours in your first gig. Do you have four
hours of material or you have an hour and a
half that you're just kind of occasionally different. No, we
didn't repeat songs. We sat down and learn what it's.
I think on our set list is sixty five songs,
but then you take requests the whole time as well,
so you at least if no one requests the song
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during the entire four set, you can play sixty five
songs and right away, you know, I didn't have all
those lyrics memorized, but I knew everything well enough to
get through four hours of material. Now we've done it
so much to where I have most things requested or
um on our set list memorized, which is crazy, because
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I was terrified out of my mind when we started
doing that, because we were so spoiled the North Dakota. Honestly,
we were so spoiled because nine Minutes paid very well
to our ninety minute sets, half originals, half covers, even
half hour opening sets for really cool people. Um, we
did have a We had a pretty good attitude coming
down there. Though we weren't like, oh, We're the best
thing ever to happen to Nashville. We knew we were
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starting over, so we kind of had to go back
to ground zero again and learn all these songs, but
which actually was a great thing for us. So thank
you so much better because of everything that you were
forced to learn. Oh. I even listened to my voice
four years ago and like, how much more relaxed I
sing now, And how much I've grown into my voice
just from singing all these cover songs and honestly, just
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the wear and tear of the voice. I think it's
given me some more rasp and like do we smoke
or do we play Broadway? Cannot tell? But no, it's
I would encourage any artist you know wanting to get better.
It's a little terrifying, but it kind of throws you
in right away and you have to figure it out.
You sink or swim kind of situation basically. But then
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after we did those two bars. We got an audition
shift at dirt Alas Whiskey Row, and that's the place
where we've ended up and loved just every you know,
not every minute, but that's been a great place for
us because the vibe there and the people that come
in and it's really just fit what we do um
with the crowd. So we did a Sunday morning audition
shift there and then we they liked us, so they
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gave us the really late night shifts and then we
started to get the weekend shifts and the night shifts
and now, um, we still play. We only have a
few gigs left for this year, but we still if
we're in town, we'll play Saturdays from like two thirty
to six thirty because we just we can't say it.
We're like, we can't stop. What's what's the money situation there?
Do you guys make pretty good on tips? So you
make this year post COVID the tips are literally insane. Yeah,
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I don't know what's happened. I don't know if people
just want to spend money or if or if we've
just become maybe better or if they I don't know
what the reason is. But so you make a little
bit off the bar, and everyone always asked this. You
make like a small small fee off your base rates,
but most of the money comes through tips and people
just requesting or people just loving what you do. And uh,
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that's another reason why it'd be hard hard for us
to just ever I want to give that up, because
you just you really make great money down there if
you're doing it in a right way. The interesting thing
about you guys here today, and I haven't really had
this experience with any artist yet, is that you have
a published do you have a record? Do? And And
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I'm again I'm gonna be as compliment or as possible
because I mean this in the best way. Yeah, you're
still playing Dirk's bar. I know it. You have a you,
they're manager, their label, your publicist even even hey, even
hoity Twitterer, your publicist. When you say it like that, no, listen,
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I got them all. And so I know on the
scale you know that to have your own publicist yet
to still be playing a bar on Broadway right now,
I haven't seen that. And you guys have real heat
on you. I'll say it again because as of the
direction you're going, you could easily probably just go hey,
we're too good for this right now. We really want
to focus on but but you haven't. And I think
it says a lot where you come from. I think
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it says a lot to you have obligations that you're
going to fulfill and that you just want to keep playing.
So I actually say that in a wonderful way, that
it will be freaking crazy if I walk down and
you guys are playing. People don't even know they should
actually come to a show, because that's not random people playing.
It's somebody that you that you can already see big
things starting to happen for which has been fun because
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this year, a lot of people who have seen us
in the past, you know, come down and they say,
we want to see you because we know you're gonna
be done with this soon, and you know we probably
will be. It is we always said we don't have
to do Broadway anymore, when if we ever get a
record deal or if we ever get a publishing deal,
we don't have to do this anymore. But we've it's
been hard for us to totally just cut it off
just because it's, first of all, just been our source
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of income. It's been our source of building fans it's
been so much for us in the past few years
that total really just cut it off. You know, when
we did get these deals would have Terrif it was terry,
it was still terrifying, and we're still terrified. Totally just
cut it off, even though we can be absolutely fine
without Well, it's also not you know, just speaking honestly,
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you don't get a record deal and be a millionaire. No, no,
no, no no. You get a record deal and you have
the opportunity to hopefully possibly make some money maybe eventually.
But but it means somebody's going to spend money on you, right,
They're investing in you, yes, and and that's really the
hardest thing to get in this talent is for somebody
to believe in you and spend their own money in you,
because that means they see dollars, and dollars means they
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see something you guys could produce for them. It's all
the business. But absolutely, you don't get to be in
the business unless somebody believes that you're pretty good. And
so you're playing how many more I gotta know, how
many more these dark shows do you have at the
bar the rest of the year. We only have three? Okay,
you guys have to go to these shows. I'm telling
my people listen to this right now the next three Saturdays,
next three Saturdays from two six thirty, and then we
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honestly in the new year, really don't know what's going
to happen anymore. I do know if it were me,
I wouldn't do anymore. So maybe three more total. Yep,
you gotta admit, Mike, that's pretty awesome. It's awesome. We
just don't have I don't have people because we're at
my house right now. I don't heck or even the
radio show. I just don't have people at my house
who I don't think are going to be stars, have
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been stars or creating stars. And so the fact that
you guys, I feel that way about you YouTube, that
you're still playing these shows like people have to go,
they have to go. I'm selling tickets. I felt. Yeah,
So I do want to play some of your music,
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and I want to get back into your life. I'm
very interested in it. But here is track one off
the Tiger Lily EP. This is my thing written by YouTube,
and my buddy Walker hates I'm still making me goes.
I'm gonna keep doing my keep danger whatever that he
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wrote that with Walker, I'm assuming before fancy, like was
Mike did Walker open the show for me in North Dakota?
You know? Was that one Walker? Because Walker was on
the road with me for about a year. He came
and we we um, you know, toward and he was
the middle act, and he would get the crowd up
and then I would go and just half half bomb
and half be great. But he was always great, and
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we became really close friends. And I actually was with
him this morning a little bit and he's tired, which
is the best, like embrace and you two are going
to deal with this too. I mean he was exhausted.
I had him and we were doing some stuff together.
He was so tired that I was like, I don't
even know you right now, but but I knew him
because I am that way too. I've had some parts
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of my career where it's just been overload and you're like,
you get a lot of things at once, and you're like,
I have to do them because we're working so hard
to do them. I'm not gonna say no, um, but
it's I can I can hear the Walker Hayes a
little influence in the song too. Yeah, Yeah. That was
our first rite with Walker actually, and we were the
first time we had met him and also the first
time I wrote it Smacked. Yeah, it was a lot
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of first It was kind of like, oh, we're actually
getting some attention to where we feel kind of important
right now and very nervous because we didn't want to
mess it up. We I think we were fifteen minutes
early for this podcast, by the way, because we're just
you know, we're very timely people and don't want to
mess anything up. Ever, because I'm so hard, I'm timely.
You're right on time. She keeps me on time. But anyways,
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we walk into Smack Publishing and Walker's then we were
already big fans of him and we thought he was
really cool. Um, you broke up with me, big fans
of all that stuff. Um. But the coolest thing about
Walker is he had no idea we had anything going
on whatsoever. All his publisher told him was, hey, you
want to write with these two two girls, sister. I
mean he didn't have to, he didn't have to write
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with us at all. But um, we all vibe really
well because we don't throw anything away every you know
that he has all about the weird ideas obviously, words
to chill with the words man like us every words
basically a rapper. I mean, I think one of his
biggest influences mckailmorey says or something he actually love macolm
or something. But anyways, we had such a blast spreading
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my thing. We were talking to him just about our
story and basically we're like, hey, no matter what happens,
we're just gonna keep doing our thing in music and life.
And that's one of the best things have happened for us.
So we wrote that story. And also we're in our
early twenties and all just about life, relationships, career and
just all the things you go through in your twenties, thirties, whatever.
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Doesn't really stop, I guess at any age. So people
have told me from listening to this song, but he
is so cool and uh we love Look we wrote
another one on the EP two with him. Well, you
make a good point. You never actually stopped doing your
thing no matter what age you are, exactly, So fifties, sixties, seventies,
you have a different version when you get older, exactly.
Somebody does I know, because I've programmed the Women of
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Our Country show it's a national show that I do,
and um I put this in as not only that,
but the spotlight artists on our on my Countdown thank you,
thank you so much. We didn't know about that, and
we saw it the radio stations on Contact. No one
told us and someone was DM me Nust being like,
you guys are gonna be on Bobby Bones and I'm like,
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I was like, don't get excited about this. I was like,
this is probably spam. And then we were like in
Cool Springs at them all eating Chinese food and we
were like, oh, this is real, and we were so psyched.
So thank you. So funny because usually what happened to
someone because the Countdown show is massive, two hundred cities
and stations in different countries. But someone from that Countdown
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show calls somebody I don't know who they called. They go, hey,
you're gonna be on. Here's some assets if you want
to post them. If not, don't worry about it. But
the fact that someone to hit you up like hey,
you're gonna be on that, that's hilarious. Yeah. Yeah. Like
our fans was telling us because they heard it on
their local station basically, and they were like, you guys
are gonna be on the Bobby Bones Show tomorrow. I'm like,
what here is that song? Somebody does get out with
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some data looks somebody does you know? With you? Guys?
Where did was it social media that made other people
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look at you that hadn't looked so so far? The
people do you haven't played in front of the people
you haven't been in the room with. Wasn't playing music
on TikTok? Where so much said hey we need to
pay attention to these girls. Yeah, I mean a combination
of things. We feel like we've been doing social media
for so long. We used to do YouTube a lot.
Being from North Dakota, you just how two otherwise you
didn't reach anyone else. Um. Then we started Instagram and Twitter,
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and then during the pandemic we got on TikTok because
we were just bored out of our minds and I
really were canceled, like what do we do? I was
totally anti TikTok because I was like, I cannot dance,
I can't do any of this stuff. And you know,
we started posting covers that we had learned for literally
Broadway gigs, and people started catching on. And then we
posted a tidbit of somebody does posted it on TikTok
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and reels. It actually went more viral on reels reels,
which is interesting. A lot of people don't know that.
They always say TikTok, but it actually went more viral
on Instagram. Um, and so that was the most viral
we'd had an original song go before, and we we
didn't write it to be viral. I know a lot
of people ask, like, do you think about the viral,
like the virability when you're writing now, And honestly, we
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don't at all, because that is too much to think
about wild just writing music. Also, yeah, I didn't want
to cater songs to TikTok either. No, I mean, you
can always find ways to market songs after you write them.
But yeah, was the first time we had really felt
a song go viral and we had we I think
we have over five dred thousand followers on TikTok now,
and our Facebook and Instagram have really increased in the
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last year. And that's just all because we've been posting
videos of us singing or you know, my husband will
dance or jump in a dancing video of us through
doing a stupid dance or things like that. Um. But yeah,
social media has been really great to us, and I
think about how many shows you'd have to play to
reach that many people. And if you use social media
in a great way, it can do really great things
for you. The first that my thing was that the
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one you said that really hit first on social media. No,
somebody does Well. We had covers go viral, like we
did Can't Helpful and Love by Elvis, and we did Landslide.
People really love the like angelic Harmony things from us,
so we would do a lot of that. Um and
that stuff went viral, and then Somebody Does was the
first probably original to go viral. When you get that
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first viral anything, it's pretty awesome, it's a it's addicting. Yes,
then you just chase it, oh yeah, because you're like, wow,
we just had a video go big, Like why did
it go big? What can I how can we do
this again? And if we don't do it again, don't
mean we suck. I mean it starts to really be
like something like you're messing with your mind. But when
you have something that's original, go big, I gotta imagine
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that that is just so much more fulfilling. Oh, yeah,
oh yeah. That was the first time people were covering
the song before it was out, and we had never
had that. We you know, we are fans, have always
liked our music, but never before was it people who
had never heard of us. They didn't care if we
were Tiger Lily or not. They didn't care about us necessarily.
They just loved the song. They just love the song.
And I always say, I don't even know if it
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would have mattered who put this song out, but um,
obviously luckily it was us. But we were just so
thankful that the song reached so many people, and it
was this song particularly because it has such a positive,
impactful message and I think it really coming out of
the pandemic here especially hit the right time. People are alone,
they feel isolated. Um, they don't know if they matter enough.
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And we just really wanted to give the old hug,
which is what we were talking about in the writing
room that day, because we were looking, I don't think
the world wants to hear another love. I cannot do
a love another love and break up some people? You
care about that? Right now? I'm like, there's so much
going on, right do they do care about you? But
that day that's how we felt. So I was looking
at some of the people that you guys have written
with Walker obviously, when you're ate with Walker, he was
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an artist that was starting to have some roots as
an artist, but was known as just a wonderful songwriter,
great dude, just different thinker as far as Walker, but
now Shane mcinally Trevor from Old Dominion, Josh Osborne like,
these are real heavyweights. Yeah, the first couple of times
you get in these rooms, are you so intimidated that
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you're afraid to speak? Or do you have so much
confidence you're like, I know what I'm doing. It's a
it's a middle ground. It's nice to have each other
each other. Yes, we always have each other because we
always write together. So that's really nice because being alone
in that situation would be a little more terrifying to me.
And our first write with uh Shane and Josh was
actually UH over Skype or whatever, so it wasn't as
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intimidating because we weren't actually in the same room. But
I remember logging onto the zoom call for that though,
when I was like, I'm just praying I liked the song.
I wasn't doubting that we would come up with something.
I wasn't doubting their abilities or our abilities. I just
wanted to like the song that I wrote with Shane
mcinally and Josh Osborne because that's a big deal. And
we waited for that right for how much longer years
(44:30):
ever since moved to Nashvillette. So we wanted to write
with uh and we did. We ended up cutting the song.
We liked the song. So hell are you? But who
is the coolest or a say, most famous person to comment?
I wanted your TikTok's where you go? Oh that's pretty cool.
They just comment this blue checkmark by their name and
they commented on the TikTok. I don't know, but Lady
Antebellin followed us the other day, so that was cool. Yeah,
it's uh, you know stuff like that. I mean we
(44:54):
I commented, well, we were part of this six five
house early on and all the celebrities like Keith Urban,
so our stuff a little big town share of the stuff. Um.
So we got a lot of tension from that. Is
there in that? And I've gotten to know not closely,
but through some things like this Ashley Cook that's her name, right,
(45:15):
Actually make sure I'm getting names right, Um, Priscilla blocked
for maybe a little bit. What is that like with
all of you there at the same time? All right again?
Are you all fighting for air on that account? So
none of us really knew what we were doing when
we started it, Ashley and Chris who was the other
(45:35):
guy who kind of started it, Chris Rudigger. He's just
kind of a new artist doing that thing. No, no one,
it's not dissolved. The main group that did it, we
never really get together. It's kind of like we were
all had so much time in pandemic. We all would
meet and just make cool cover videos together and then
everyone got really busy basically, which was great. You know,
(45:56):
everyone's doing their own thing, their own soul. It's really
fun for while it lasted. But we don't know, we
haven't done it so long. I think it's um, you
get in, you learn, you go, okay, this was cool,
Now let me go do a thing. And we met
really great people through it. I mean honestly, we talk
to each other all the time, the people in the
(46:17):
group and the artists, and we keep up and encourage everyone,
you know, on whatever whatever everyone's doing and things like that.
So that's fun. It wasn't. I really didn't feel like
it was everyone fighting for the camera. It was everyone
just kind of chilling, having a good time, getting to
know each other sort of thing. Uh, was based off
the l A thing, right, wasn't like so TikTok And
(46:41):
I still I am kind of figuring this out even
though we were in it. On TikTok, there's houses, So
there's in l A. They have certain houses that really
famous TikTok ers go to and create content, or like
the Hype House or something. Yeah. Yeah, And so Ashley
and Chris had this idea for the six one five house,
which would be like nash the Nashville House. We're up
(47:01):
and coming people who were bigger on TikTok could come
together and collaborate based I don't know if it matters.
I don't really consider you guys. I knew that you
got when I was like looking over some notes, I
was like, oh, yeah, I guess they did have a
part of that, But I don't really consider you guys
part of that foundation good or bad. No, No, it
was just kind of it was super fun for while
(47:23):
we did it, and uh, you know, we'll always kind
of be a part of it, I guess, but we
haven't been able to do it for a while. So
you guys are both in your twenties. When I say,
Travis Barker, Okay, what do you think of, well, now,
Courtney Kardashian. But I know that's the relie, but yeah,
(47:45):
this is the this is the thing that I have
with you with my wife, and she's twenty nine and
she doesn't know Travis Barker from Blank two. It's just
a generation thing. She's like, I know Travis Barker from
Courtney Garder. Actually I know. I was like, I shouldn't
say that, but do you How do you know Travis Parker?
Is that Corney Kardashia? Well, I mean I knew his name,
but now I've just seen him in the news so
(48:05):
much lately because of that, so that's the most recent
memory of him. People compare you mostly to whom the
Dixie Chicks, probably because everybody gets compared with everybody knew
gets compared to somebody older. I mean, we don't really
sound like the Dixie Chicks, but definitely like the vibe
when we play um and just like that energy is
(48:26):
something we definitely want to have in our career, and
I think that's a great, great compliment. Um. And then
and sometimes Sugarland just because I have more of an
alto voice and I listened to Jennifer Nettles growing up
so much, so sugar Land a little bit. Jennifer Nettles,
you don't sound like Christian Bush fun that way. Um,
But Sugarland Dixie Chicks are what surprising is we actually
(48:48):
don't get compared to Maddie and Tait. Obviously they've been
crushing it for plast six or seven years, and uh,
I've actually never met them. They seem like IMPI they
don't like you guys, but they are. But I was like,
because obviously it's what you, you know, worry a little about,
is you know, both girl duos and there people get
to comparis against each other. And it's been actually really
(49:10):
nice because I think we have such different sounds, um,
just sonically. And but yeah, I think it's like there's
to me, there's so much more room. I always say
this too, It's like why does there have to be
one girl? Do there's so much more room for all
the girl duos or whatever. So but yeah, mostly Dixie
Chicks And then uh, I don't know if people the
Maddie and Take comparison, I haven't heard it. I understand
(49:31):
get it when you say that. If people starting comparing
you to Maddie and Take, that's awesome because that means
are comparing you to people that have made it exactly.
I mean we've gotten that. Like a couple of times.
I just say thank you. I mean, what else am
I supposed to say? And then then you grow your
direction like it's awesome to be compared to somebody who
is known enough to be compared to. Yeah, exactly. Yeah,
you guys did The Young and the Restless as you
(49:51):
as your first major TV Yes, yeah, our first time
in l A was doing that. What do you do? So?
So we played r EP songs for the Sony Sync
department out of l A. So this is for people listening.
It's like for TV movies to play songs and shows, yes, commercially.
So we were like expecting maybe one of our songs
(50:12):
to be placed somewhere, but instead, after that meeting, um,
one of the ladies, Abbey said she there's this thing
I could cast you guys in for The Young and
the Restless, the soap opera would would that be something
y'all would like. And we've never really acted. I mean
we've done stuff in school plays in high school. Did
in the show too. Oh yeah, we had lines and everything.
Oh yeah, it was a whole scene. So so we
(50:34):
actually got the part, which was something I thought we
were going to be casted for and not actually get it.
You know how this industry is like, Okay, maybe that'll happen,
maybe not on the soap oper Sure it's not gonna happen.
So we we did get the parts and we flew
to l A and we had just one little sing.
I mean, it wasn't like this whole episode, but we
had lines that we had to memorize. Do you remember
(50:55):
your line? We love hearing that our songs means so
much to our fans, or something like that. But they
asked us as Tiger Lily in The Young and the Restless,
so they wrote in their characters as a girl from
the show was a huge Tiger Lily fan, so we
surprised her in a coffee shop and then talk to
her and sang it also makes people think that you're
a bigger it's a bigger deal than you. She's a
(51:17):
huge fan of Tiger why why aren't I you know?
And then they said they've had Jewel and Katy Perry
and Lionel Richie and all these really famous people in
the show. And I'm like, how did we get this?
And you sang a cafella on the show. We sang
dig Yourself, the song we wrote with Shane and Josh
and Trevor Um and we just, you know, because you
always do that when you're in a coffee shop with someone,
(51:38):
you just burst. The line was, would you like to
hear one of our sneak preview of one of our
new songs? I know you really did yourself? And I
don't even have my guitar. It was full on like snaps, Yeah,
here is some of dig Yourself. This is actually from
the young and they just not everything's always about Joe
(52:01):
because you've got against you show un will you really
did yourself? Why don't you did yourself? A home making
all the way to shut up? But I don't know,
Fun says, So what's the next Obviously we'll get into
(52:26):
the holidays so that it's kind of a checkout time
in this town, but like, what's the plan for next year?
Do you guys have I mean we've been writing a
lot lately. I feel like we definitely go in seasons
of full on promo, new music releasing, and now, um,
we still have some fun stuff coming for the holidays actually,
which is exciting because we never fully stop. Um, but
(52:49):
we are just writing a lot and hopefully into the
studio again with project number two next year. I mean,
we don't have a date set or anything, and um,
thankfully I think hopefully Shane will produce again. We we
love that guy and it's been so fun working with him.
And UM, I listened to actually the podcast that you
did with Shane four years ago. Yeah, I listened to
that this morning and I was like, I just feel
(53:09):
like this is what I should listen to, and it
was just fun hearing he only had Caitlin and Walker
at that time, and uh, we're now with him and
this label and it's just it's really fun. So I
did reminisce on that this morning. Well, Caitlin and Walker
are my favorites, but very incredible and have made such
a point too, because I feel like they both were
super talented, very undervalued, where I am not talented and
(53:32):
very overvalued. So I took them both out with me
just to make my shows better so that hey, I
took them both on the road and they would just
blow my audiences away and I would be like that,
I'm talking about my favorite artist if you just give
him a shot. Yeah, And so it's been so cool
to see both of them explode, even Caitlin with Dominion. Now,
oh yeah, they're incredible. Um, you got you're in at
the right time with this group, and now we're very,
(53:54):
very very lucky we were in good hands Monuments. It's
such it was such an out of the box venture
at first, but it wasn't so much out of the box.
It was just a little ahead of its time. But
now the time is catching up with it and they're
sitting there waiting at the right time, taking the right decision.
Had this huge, massive hit this year, and I'm just
so happy for him and and all the success that
(54:16):
he's had, and um and and all the Monument team,
and it's just been fun seeing everyone really succeed this year,
and you know, us getting to see the small parts
of it all and uh, now being a part of
this whole team. But yeah, we gotta sometimes to take
a step back and look at ourselves. A year ago
and say how. I mean, we're very We've worked really
hard for it, so I'm not going to undermine us
(54:36):
at all. But how did we get here? I mean,
we're very, very fortunate, because I've always said it, Yeah,
it takes hard work, talent, but it's also luck too.
The right person just has to hear you got to
work hard to get into look. Yes, work really hard
to get to the look. I mean the goal is
to work so hard that people are confused. How you
became an overnight sensation? Yeah exactly, I mean, and it's
(54:58):
to grind it out for ten fifteen years. All of
a sudden something hits and they're like, wow, wow, loo,
could you did it overnight? And you're like, okay, whatever
you think, I'll take it. But you know, and it's
such a luxury. And I'll say this to you now,
before you get so tired. I was talking about Walker,
and there are seasons of my years where I live
so exhausted because it took me so long to hit
in any way that it's you'll start to get irritable
(55:21):
and tired and and a bit resentful. But that's what
you worked for to be able to be tired and
exhausted doing what you love to do, what you moved
across the country to do. So this is gonna blow
up for you, guys. I can I can see it.
I don't say that too many people. This is this
is gonna be a really big deal for you guys.
You two is gonna be great, is gonna be fantastic.
(55:43):
It's gonna snowball for you guys. But it's also gonna
get so tiring. You're gonna be I mean, relationships are
gonna be strained. You're gonna have to but it's awesome.
And when that happens to you, you just remember, we're
so lucky to be this tired. Yeah, I love that
so much. And then you eventually get out of it
and you'll you'll be like me and you have a
shoe close like a hundred pair of shoes and get
and it gets great again. But just the one nugget
(56:08):
to take from me here who has been in a
struggle situation for a long time, is that it gets
really it's so much harder than it does right now.
And I know you guys feel like you've worked so
hard to get here. It gets so much harder. But
as you're dying. Just remember you're so lucky to be
dying because I get to see big things for you guys.
Thank you so much much, thank you for that. I
don't even say that to me. I didn't tell Shane that.
(56:28):
I thought. I was like, Shane, you know we done
a couple of years. I was like, show, we think
about that so much. As we worked eight years to
get to this point. We're just starting so much. We
just signed our record deal and that's when you know,
finally National starts paying attention and you start getting all
these big things. But we're just starting. You have been
a pleasure to talk to you. I did not expect
(56:49):
to do an hour with you guys. Oh well, mostly
I'm just like, hey, let's talk about some stuff. We'll
see where it goes. But you guys have it. I
don't exactly know what it is. But that's the best
thing about it. I haven't heard saying in person. I've
just heard your music on you know, you playing it
on Spotify or watching you guys on Instagram um or TikTok.
(57:11):
But you just have it. So and your sister, so
I believe you will stay together. Yes, we will have
to do you have to so let me say this,
by the way, I'll play one more. Let's play Everybody's
on Something. Here's the track four. Everybody's on s Everybody's
on him model, but still everybody anything, Everybody's on song.
(57:52):
I mean that might be a favorite one on the record. Honestly,
you know, I played it last, and I hate to
always say that's my favorite because but I think of
the songs, I think that that one of that group
of five songs is my favorite one, just because we'll
get them all in. Mike here has known you forever. Time.
It takes one to know one together. Some time it's
(58:16):
not you know, but they know your someone whoever you
can follow Tiger Lily and let me say it's spelled differently,
like you mentioned, it's tie girl, yes, Billy, tie girl Lily. Yes,
(58:41):
it's still said tiger Lily. Yes, but you could probably
be confused easily tie t I girl Billy. That's even
weird to say like that. That's perfect though, it's it's
exactly how you just said Tiger Lily on TikTok. They're
just over, you know, killing it everywhere. Let me go
over to the room. Usually go to the guys. Mike
is there anything you'd like to say before we wrap
this up. I would say my one North Dakota story
(59:03):
is when I was with you selling merch, I took
a picture with somebody and I thought it was somebody
who would recognize me from the show. And the reason
they take a picture with me because they had never
seen a Mexican. Sadly will say, there's not a lot
of diversity North Kota. But I'm so sorry, but it
was the nicest form of racism. I forgot about that. Yeah,
(59:29):
I read anything you'd like to say to Tiger Lily.
I don't have any racism story. That's great, but I
think you all are great and I enjoyed it. Thank
you so much. Thank you. Well. With that, we will
will say goodbye, and I just don't don't expect this
to be the last time that I see you guys.
And most people, I would say, one out of five
(59:50):
people after they leave this room at the radio show,
they die or retire. So I feel good about you guys.
I love that. I though they are you guys. Go
check out Tiger Lily. Uh they're doing three more Dirk
shows and that's never gonna happen again. I'm gonna tell
you because they're they're blowing up all right. Good to
talk to you guys, Thanks for having us M
Host
Bobby Bones
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