On this week's episode of Unsigned & Independent, Kevin sits down with a familiar face around the Bobby Bones Show studio - Canaan Cox. Kevin and Canaan talk about the first time he ran into Bobby while working as a waiter, and why he's done with playing on Broadway. Plus, Canaan talks about his fitness journey of losing close to 100 pounds, why his love story sounds like a movie, and how all of that has led him to living his best life as an artist.
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Unsigned and Independent is a six episode season podcast hosted by Kevin O’Connell that features unsigned and independent artists and bands in Nashville. The purpose of this podcast is to highlight the journey and grind musicians go through trying to make it in the industry; the journey most fans don’t see leading up to national success. People move to music city from all over the country to chase something they have only dreamed of – making music and performing for a living. This podcast will dive into stories on the road, late nights and early mornings on the infamous Broadway, their background story, and if there is an ultimate goal for each artist or band. The artists featured on this podcast don’t have the backing of a label or sometimes even management, or a publishing team to handle their bookings, travel, etc.… But what they all have in common is a genuine passion for the love of music and performing. There is hidden talent spread throughout music city and the aim of this podcast is to give this hidden talent an opportunity to have a platform for an audience to hear their story, what the process is really like in the industry, and hopefully gain a new fan or two.
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Speaker 1 (00:10):
Unsigned and Independent Season two, episode four with I got
Kevin O'Connell, Hey, Kevin, who's in this week?
Speaker 2 (00:16):
We got Canaan Cox in this week.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
Now I know Canaan because Canaan came up and said hello.
He was at the time waiting tables as he You
know a lot of artists they have to work jobs
so they can pursue their career music like most do.
And so I met up because it was like, hey,
I don't know if you have any time, but check
it out. I saw his name and his Instagram, remembered it,
went to it and that took him out and opened
(00:38):
for me for sure. I mean we've kind of had,
you know, a cool little experience together. Why were you
intrigued by Canaan Cox.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
Because he reached back out and I was interested in
hearing more of his story and we got in depth
more if even his love story, which is the first
time I've done this on the podcast, and kind of
how that molded him into the artist he is today.
It's a crazy one. His love story's crazy love story. Yeah,
he flew to your don't give too much on a
one way ticket. That's all I'm gonna say. Dang to
try to get a girl back.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
I don't even know this, okay, and then at true
or false, I don't know if you guys talked about it.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
He used to perform on cruise ships. Do you guys
talk about that?
Speaker 1 (01:12):
Yeah, Canaan has done a lot of interesting things to
lead him to this point. Now, So how'd you feel
about him when you were done? Do you feel like
he's a guy that could really take off soon?
Speaker 2 (01:22):
Yeah, he's got a great character to him. He's funny,
he's very energetic. He does it all, from dancing to songwriting.
He does dance everything. Yeah, he does everything. He's just
an entertainer.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
And isn't the case with a lot of these artists.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
They have to do everything because they are unsigned and independent,
so they have to learn all these skills because they
have a recor label putting a bunch of.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
Money into them.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
Yet yeah, exactly, So here we go, unsigned and independent.
It's Kevin and Canaan Cox, which, by the way, his
new EP, end Up in a Song comes out May fifth,
and he said, hey, think he messaged me once and
set His streams went up to like twenty four thousand
a month to now a million after it came on
the show, which is pretty good for the old Bobby
Bone show. UF I do say so MYSELFE. And it
(02:00):
also shows really how good he is. All right, that's
the deal. Kevin O'Connell, unsigned and independent here on the
Bobby Cast.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
Canaan. How are we doing today? Man?
Speaker 3 (02:08):
Living the dream? I'm glad you said Canaan. Sometimes everyone
says Cannon like Canon Cox, like the most perfect poor
name on the planet, is right.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
I didn't think about that until just now. It doesn't
I've said, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
There's been time. I like, what where did you What
did you think that was? How you said that?
Speaker 2 (02:28):
I am glad you brought that up right away. I
wanted to start with that because when I look at it,
I mean, I didn't think you're king. But the pronunciation
is Canaan, but it's spelled c A n A A n. Yeah,
so where does that name come from?
Speaker 3 (02:42):
It's Biblical so like the land of Canaan. I mean
that depends on where you're from and how much Bobo
you've read, I guess in your life or where you
grew up. But yeah, the land of Canaan, it's like
where Moses took It's the Promised Land or milk. Yeah,
so that makes me sound like a complete egotistical butthole.
But no, I'm the Promised Land. No, but that is it,
(03:03):
you know in the Bible, that's where it's from.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
Okay, well that shows how much I guess religion Bible.
I am well versed in.
Speaker 3 (03:10):
You are not alone. Let people say Cannon Kanan is
what Starbucks usually says, Canan Cox. I'm like, what the planetary?
I mean, of course, like it's my name, so I
know that it's that, but usually I just say a
different name, or if my wife's with me, I'm just like, look,
you have a name for the order. I'm like Kimberly,
not even not even not even going to try, not
even gonna try.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
Have you ever even used a fake name for yourself?
Like mine's as simple as can be. I'm Kevin. Yeah,
you know, have you ever said that I'm Kevin, I'm
Dave Ben Ben I've said Ben. Here you go.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
I was like, I'm Ben.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
Yeah, but yeah, have you ever told your parents or
your mom like, well, why do you have to give
me this name as people just mispronounced all the time.
Speaker 3 (03:46):
No, I mean I'm just like student to the skid
with it. I love it. I've only met one other
person with that name, so it's unique. But I've never
never had any problems with it or never been like
come on, and luckily now, like Starbucks is probably the
only you know, coffee shops are the only place that
ever like take your name for certain orders or whatever.
And I just order online now so they can't get
(04:07):
it wrong. You just order on the app. And it's
like they still say it wrong, but at least I'll
spelled right. Sometimes I'll even give it to them. I'm
like c a n a a n and It'll come
out k a an e en and I'm like, what
the hell, Kenney caane, it's not my Instagram profile, and literally,
because it happens so much that it's literally it's my
(04:27):
Instagram Bio says, it's pronounced caanaan k a y hyphen
n I N kanaan.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
So you're just like, right off the bat, I want
everybody to know right now this is in on this. Yeah,
don't start making grap up here. It's kanaan.
Speaker 3 (04:39):
It's Kanaan.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
Well, speaking of your mom family, parents, where are you from?
Talk about your upbringing a little bit.
Speaker 3 (04:45):
Yeah, grew up in uh Hendersonville, North Carolina. It's just
uh south of Asheville because no one ever knows where
Hendersonville is unless you're here, and then you think it's Hendersonville, Tennessee.
And yeah so but everyone pretty much knows where Ashville is.
But yeah, grew up, grew up there, you know, a
good old musical family. Mom still actually plays in a
like a band around town, just kind of the bar
scene over there. And Dad rights. We still write. We
(05:08):
haven't written in a long time there before things started
to kind of I don't know, quote unquote take off.
We've we had a few songs like actually out there
into Spotify and DSP's and stuff that he had actually
co written with me. But yeah, so we just kind
of grew up and music. My grandma played the piano.
I grew up listening to you know, her play and
Mom play and Dad play and those kind of things
and just kind of surrounded myself.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
When did you move to Nashville?
Speaker 3 (05:31):
I did cruise ships for three years. I performed a
cruise ships, just like playing the guitar on there and
got the you know, traveling and play in the pubs
and stuff like that, and then I moved right at
the end of twenty and sixteen is when I moved
to Nashville. Just yeah, I didn't know anyone, didn't know
anything that was going on. You know, obviously you hear
the cliches of you know, play downtown and right and
(05:53):
there's no If there was a right way to do it,
then we'd all be you know, famous by nowland country music,
yah know, and there there was just isn't and definitely
not not now I will get there. But yeah, So
I went downtown, started playing some shows, just did my thing.
I was literally what I was doing on cruise ships,
just copy and paste towards you know, Nashville. But knew
(06:14):
that that was just not a dead end, but it
wasn't where I wanted to be. I know a lot
of people get down there and they just get stuck
down there. So I went down there for a few
months and then started to do just trying to book
anything outside of here. I mean, you know, go and
look out, oh this place spend you know, random middle
of nowhere, Kentucky has this brewery, Hey brewery, do you
(06:35):
mind pay me one hundred bucks, I'll come up with
my pa and play for three hours. And did that
and did that for a while, and then it turned
out to be something pretty cool later, like we did
like a small radio tour to secondary radio, which is
kind of the you know, more of the rural parts
of the states and stuff, and there's like five stations
in Wisconsin alone, and so we would I did a
(06:58):
radio campaign there and I was again, You're like, hey,
you adn't come up on a Wednesday, play in the
corner from four to seven on our happy hour at
the you know, off brand Applebee's. Yeah, you know, and
you're like, all right, cool, and you go and you're
playing right by the you know, men's toilet, and you're like,
this is cool, I guess. But now having you know,
you go and then those shows turn into full band shows,
(07:18):
and then full band shows you turn into ticketed shows,
and now like, yeah, we're going in May, we're on
the road playing in Green Bay and Omaha, that's all
ticketed shows. Oma Hole's almost sold out. Green Bay's a
guaranteed show, and you know, yeah, the hundred hundred bucks
show in the corner turned into those people who saw
you there are also there and now they have every
(07:39):
single shirt that you ever put out and know every
single song in the world, and yeah, it's just it
was a cool, cool build.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
Yeah. Did you ever have a time during that building
where you were thinking to yourself, maybe one night and
you're like, damn, I don't know, I want to do
this anymore? Some long nights.
Speaker 3 (07:54):
Yeah. So two nineteen, we were like we were just
sitting hard. I mean, we was just we can warrior stuff,
a lot of cover gigs, and things were starting to
progress because we were playing a bunch and again this
was pre COVID, and then COVID happened, and like we
had like chatted up with a few agencies I had
opened for a few folks, you know, some repid old names,
(08:15):
and I was like, okay, like this is going. We
got into some of the publishing houses to write, and
then COVID happened, and I'll see, it just screwed everybody
over well depending on which way you looked at it.
And then after the COVID kind of like cleared off,
we started doing the cover things again, and it was
right around I guess, you know, twenty twenty, twenty twenty one,
(08:39):
the things were back kind of renal quote unquote normal.
I got off the stage a lot and I'm like,
oh yeah, like we rocked, and I was like this sucks,
Like I'm so tired of playing everyone else's songs but mine. Yeah,
And before that, I don't think it was necessarily you know,
it was it was putting food on the table. You know,
it was putting you know, keeping the lights on, putting
(09:00):
a roof over my head. And I got married, Yeah,
in twenty twenty one, you know, got a little guy
and to take care of as well, and so those
you know, living at rock Star Weekend Warrior life became
less and less appealing because I was like this, you know,
this sucks. I don't want to miss his bedtime. And
that's actually I went back to serving. It's when I
(09:22):
gave Bobby, you know, Bobby Bonones the kosher at the restaurant.
And after that, I think I worked one more shift
and I picked up one of my friends needed someone
to pick up a shift because there's something happened. I
was like, yeah, I'll do it. And then why didn't
work a single day again? I'm on a tangent. I
was literally in the middle of this. I was like,
where did we what was the question? The question? No, Yes,
(09:44):
there will have been times when I'm like, this sucks.
How do I get out of it? I think that
was last year. Yeah, we got We played a show
and one of the venues didn't pay us, and like
looking at my band, I was like, yeah, guys, I'm
gonna have to just pay out of my pocket and
being sure you guys are taking care of I call
my dad. I was like in tears, like I don't
know what to do anymore, Like I hate playing these songs.
(10:07):
I don't want to do this, but also I don't
know what else I would do if I didn't do this.
And that was like a huge journey moment just for
like either you can go and keep playing those shows
and hate your life, or get off your not get
off your But I've always been like grinding and stuff,
but it's like there, it was a different game plan. Yeah,
I had different initiative. I guess.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
Yeah, no, I get it. And then you talked about
this story with Bobby. For those of listening maybe they
haven't heard you before. You've been on the show a
couple of times and you've told the story, But can
you tell that again real quick right now, I'll snop
this of it and just kind of what happened that
night and how you came across Bobby and basically why
we're sitting here doing this.
Speaker 3 (10:40):
Yeah. Yeah, So the serving job I have when I
first moved into town obviously didn't do that anymore. I
stopped doing that in seventeen when I started playing some acoustics.
Shows went back during COVID. Obviously all shows got canceled
in twenty twenty, so I was like, hey, restaurant, Dulfriscoes,
do you guys want to have me back out? And yeah,
(11:00):
long story short, I saw Bobby Bones come in. I
was like, I have to say something, like gotta do something,
So wrote my name down on a coaster and I
just literally said, hey, and you know, love your story,
love the hustle. I'm hustling, Like check me out, enjoy
your dinner. And they just got him and Kaitlyn got
married just you know, not too long or before that,
(11:21):
and so I just like, congratulations, enjoy. Did think anything
of it, and then literally I think it was at
Walmart the next day, like getting groceries or something, and
my phone round was like, Hey, this is a Micah.
We just give Bobby your name. Would you like to
be on the show? We'd like to give you a
call at least on Monday, and I was freaked out,
freaked out called was on the show, and then he
invited me on the show actually two days later to
(11:44):
sing and play, and it was yeah, it's definitely changed
my life. He's been, He's messaged me a few times
on you know, Instagram or I had a bunch of
people come out to shows. We try to book shows
that he was syndicated in with iHeart and some pds
like reached out and it was really cool and I
would take pictures like, hey, like this is because of
you know, send him sending the pictures to him and
(12:04):
he's like, this is, you know, super cool. And then
he had me back out on the show about eight
months later just to kind of check in, and he
had me open for him at the Strawberry Festival awesome,
which was yeah, which is super cool. But that was
that story and here we are now.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
And that's the leads to this, What are some other
hobbies you have outside of making music or songwriting anything
else not musically involved.
Speaker 3 (12:32):
Literally, I I don't think I have I don't have hobbies.
I hate to be that person, but it's like if
i'm not dad husband or we're working on the career.
I'll go to the movies, like I love cinema, and
that's kind of my two hour window of like I'll
actually turn my phone off and like not look at anything.
I'll just be like just immerse yourself into this world
(12:52):
and just not think about anything, which usually I'll watch
it and I'll get inspired and I'm like, oh, that's
a cool idea for a music video. So I'll have
to tell myself to stop that. But yeah, I don't
mean fitness. I work out. I love that. I used
to be like two hundred and eighty pounds and so
that's that's another story. But yeah, fitness is a huge
part of my life. So that's again the five o'clock
(13:15):
five am club, getting up, working out in the morning,
getting that done.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
What is that fitness journey you're talking about. Then I
read upon that you had a major turning point in
your life physically mentally. Yeah, he talked about that story
a little.
Speaker 3 (13:26):
Yeah, for sure, it was in a horrible relationship. That's
the key of all good songs. And yeah, but she
just led me for another dude, literally said she wasn't
attraction anymore. And I was like, well, this is fun,
this is fantastic. Wrote a lot of songs about it,
but it did. Yeah, it hit me hard, and I
was like, this is I just yeah, I didn't like
(13:47):
what I was seeing in the mirror, not just physically
but mentally. I was like, man, I've been in denial
for a year and a half of this relationship. I
don't like the guy I see like it just there
was no security at all. It was just all insecure
and yeah. I called my brother's friend who was a trainer.
I was on a cruise ship at the time. I
was in the middle of the Mediterranean, I remember exactly.
(14:09):
It was like yesterday, and I messaged him. I was like, hey, man,
this is Canaan. I'm a Casey's little brother. I know
you're a trainer. Like, I don't care if you like
tie me to a truck and make me pull it
up a hill. I want to get in shape and
like get my life back together. And left the cruise
ship because that's where my my ex was at the
time and we were on the same ship together. Oh wow,
Yeah it was horrible. Well that's a whole nother thing.
(14:31):
We'll won't get there. But yeah, so I had literally
I was like, I can't be here anymore. The furthest
we could be away from each other is like one
hundred yards at all times. So uh yeah, flew back
and just it's been a thing ever since, like literally
since I think I did one more contract for Carnival
instead of the other ship I was on. But then yeah,
(14:53):
and then moved here, and then I met another trainer.
But yeah, it was around two eighty five at my worst,
I guess, and just went for it and I never
looked back. And it's just a huge, huge part of
like I said, yeah, my life. My it is a hobby.
But I can go like two and go forty eight
hours without doing cardio. I don't have to lift, but
if I can go forty eight hours without at least
(15:16):
doing some kind of cardio or I will turn into
a monster.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
Yes, I know exactly what you're saying. Huge part of
my life as well. Yeah, I mean physically mentally everything.
I haven't worked on anything two days now, and I'm like,
I'm going crazy a little bit. Meant yeah, not even
just physically mentally. You were at two eighty five.
Speaker 3 (15:30):
Yeah, jeez, I was two eighty five and then the
we shot, I did the trainer back home in North Carolina,
and then I got here and then I wanted to
We were shooting a music video and it was like
a boxing theme, and I got with a trainer here
and he just changed my life because it was always like,
you know, always cool, like you know, you're eating granola
and yogurt and like fru, like this is healthy life.
(15:51):
So I dropped all that, like the excess weight up front,
and I was like cool, but I still like wasn't
looking like I wanted to. And then I met my
trainer here and he was like, screw all of that,
like you don't need to be in any of this.
And it's because so obviously, you know, you talk about
it and everyone let'say, oh blah blah blah. You looked
fine the way you were and whatever all that kind
of stuff. I was like, what I wanted to look like,
(16:13):
what I wanted to be I was. He was like,
you need to eat chicken and asparagus. That was it.
That's it. That was it. And so we had one
month for this music video and so yeah, for one month,
I had a couple of egg whites in the morning,
half a grapefruit, and then chicken breast and asparagus, protein
(16:35):
shake and almonds at three chicken and asparagus, chicken and asparagus.
And that's what I ate for an entire month before
the video, and it was everything. But I mean, obviously
that's extreme, and I'm not telling anyone to go out
there and do that. Unless you have a video in
four weeks, then sure go for it. After the video,
I did smash a whole beer, nachos, and a burger.
For those of you who are like, oh my god,
body shaming, but yes.
Speaker 1 (16:59):
So.
Speaker 3 (17:01):
He just shanged my life with just like I didn't
know what GI was of a I don't know if
anyone else does too, but like a fruit, like oh yeah,
like eating fruits good. I was like, yeah, well, actually, watermelon.
The GI the glucose index of a watermelon. Basically, it's
the speed of which something turns into sugar in your body.
A grapefruit is low. You think of like a speed.
(17:21):
So it's like cool. I could get this wrong, it
could be the opposite, it could be whatever, but great fruit.
Let's just say that. Like it's like a twenty twenty GI,
which means it breaks down in your body very slow,
which gives your body time to use it as energy.
Where you eat a watermelon and it basically is eating
skittles and you've got about fifteen seconds before your body goes, hmm,
(17:44):
that sugar, let us store that away is fat. And
so just learning all about that kind of stuff, it's
a big I guess you could say fitness is a
hobby because I do really love it in that sense
of how excited I just got talking about glucose index.
But yeah, just learning about all of those things and
it's like, yeah, an apple a day knocked your away,
but it'll also keep those love handles on.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
You know, what are some good ones then they eat?
Speaker 3 (18:06):
I mean, yeah, greatefruit is the best, which I was
surprised because it's so tasty. Grapefruits like cherries, like oranges
are okay, blueberries are like right in that mid range.
But sometimes like the watermelon's the kiwi's bananas, obviously it's
a little bit different. It's a different carb, it's a
different sugar, but it's still breaking down out your body
at a certain pace. So you can literally if you're
(18:30):
if you're actually interested in any of those whoever is listening,
just literally go like GI level fruits and the same
thing you do it with meats, you can do it
with vegetables. Office of vegetables aren't that bad, but like
the fruits are the big ones as far as like
how fast something breaks down in your body?
Speaker 2 (18:45):
So okay, well if you you know you were tuning
into health and yeah, yeah, there we are.
Speaker 3 (18:50):
Anyways, I got songs out to those.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
Back to the music. Yeah, back to your life. You
know you said you had a bad relationship before and
now you're married, you have a kid. I see on Instagram,
beautiful kid wife. Everything you look at be what is
that relationship? Like how'd you two meet? And what's the
love story behind that?
Speaker 3 (19:08):
That is for an entire other episode. If I won't
tell you all the things because it would take forever,
and it's very sweet. It is a Nicholas Sparks book,
if I do say so myself. And Lisa's over there.
She knows a little bit of the story. She knows
what's going down. But we met on cruise ships. She
was a dancer. I was a performer. I had just
gotten out of that crappy relationship that I was just
(19:28):
talking about, So I was in a pretty vulnerable place.
She was actually dating someone else. Yeah, and then whatever.
A couple months went by, and then we started dating
each other and I knew she was it, Like I
knew at whatever, twenty five, twenty six years old. I
was like, this is all my life and it could
have just been like stupid love and young love or whatever.
But I'm here to tell you that it wasn't because
(19:48):
I married her, but we broke up. She's from England,
so I got on a different ship, so we were
about to do long distance. We only dated for like
two and a half maybe three months, and that's how
I kind of knew that she was it. I was like,
we didn't date very long, but it still had the
hold of me. But being this stupid twenty five year
old boy that I was, I was like, we're doing
(20:10):
long disneys. I don't know if this is going to work.
I broke it off and it was. Yeah, it was
just devastating. And then so, yeah, we separated three years past.
I'd moved here, hadn't. I'd reached out to her a
few times, like tried to like, hey, I've had dreams
about us being together and waking up and just straight
up tears crying because you're not actually in my life
(20:31):
at all. She didn't respond to anything, never said a
word to me. Yeah. And then in twenty nineteen, I
get a phone call and it was her and I
was like, oh my god, I've waited for this phone
call from my enentire life. And she got the English
accent though. You know what I'm saying is that I
know what are you doing over that? I'm like, And
so we chatted for like an hour and a half
(20:53):
and she told me about the my son. It's not
biologically mine, but he is. He is mine. We're actually
like one more step we have like a to sign
on Wednesday and he is officially adopted. So I thank you.
I'm really excited about that. Yeah, so she called we
just reconnected. I wrote a song literally as we hung
up the phone. What's called When it comes to you guys,
(21:13):
go listen to it and stream it on Spotify and
Apple Music and iHeartRadio and everything whatever you listen.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
To, wherever you get it, wherever you listen to it.
Speaker 3 (21:22):
He legally downloaded on limeire alright, dating ourselves, Yeah a
little bit or whatever. It's on my top five of MySpace. No, anyways,
we reconnected. It took us a bit. Obviously we hadn't
chatted for three years. I have you know, just had
my head down, lost the weight doing this thing. I
was just like I'm going to chase the stream and
(21:43):
was doing a pretty good job. Like I said, it
was twenty nineteen, like agents were kind of talking to us,
we were about to do another UK tour, all of
this fun stuff. So it took us about a year
to finally be like who are we now? What is
this going on? Like there's a kid involved, I don't
know what's going on, Like there's a lot. So it
took us about he and then we finally figured it
out and then I flew over there. I surprised her
(22:06):
the first time. I just showed up on a front doorstep,
which could have gone one of two ways. It went
the good way.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
Good.
Speaker 3 (22:10):
Yeah, happy to hear that.
Speaker 2 (22:11):
Yeah, I mean you got the ring on, so.
Speaker 3 (22:12):
Yeah, the rings on? She well that was that was
one of the two. So the first time I went over,
I was like, hey, I'm still super like into this,
like if you are, and we you know, chatted and
then like once went by and we were like okay,
I'm still kind of scared, like what is this? I
don't know? And then finally I got my you know,
I stopped being stupid and I was like, I'm in
love with this girl, like I don't care what it's
going to take to be with her. But I thought
(22:34):
I was losing her. She was kind of on the
like hey, I've heard this kind of stuff before kind
of stuff. So I got on another plane literally the
next my drummer we were heading back from a show.
He uh Daniel. I was like, hey, man, let me
get back. We took me to the airport. I gotta
go over there, like I've got to like show her.
I bought a one way ticket. I was with a bag.
I was like, showed him on a front doorstep. I
(22:55):
was like, hey, I'm here to be with you, like
it is your move. You tell me what you want
me to do, but I'm here to tell you that
I'm in love with you and I want to be
with the rest of my life. And she told me
to go home.
Speaker 2 (23:05):
Oh yeah, shut us. So yeah, I I was not anticipating.
Speaker 3 (23:09):
Yeah. So that the first time was great, this time wasn't.
So I was like, can I get a ride back
to the train station please? So got a ride got
uh yeah. On the train ride from Norwich back to London,
I wrote another song, one percent go stream it. I
wrote it on the train and I just knew like
we were going to end up together. I knew, like
(23:30):
I was devastated. My dad called me and he was like,
I had a feeling that that's the way that was
going to go. But I just wanted you to have
your own journey there. And I was like, thanks, Pops,
which I wouldn't have listened to me if you told
me not to go out. Se what over gone?
Speaker 2 (23:43):
It's good.
Speaker 3 (23:43):
So I wrote that song and then I just I
messaged her and I just said, hey, like I don't
know when or what, but I know that we end
up together. And I was like there's stuff obviously, you know,
biological dad stuff was going, you know, all this stuff,
and I was just like, I will be here whenever
you or are ready to be with me. Yeah, And
about like a month later, she was like I miss you,
(24:05):
and I was like, let's do this. I went over there,
I visited, I landed in England and COVID they shut
down everything. If I had gone one more day later,
I wouldn't have been able to get into the country,
got over there, got like a two week trip turned
into a two and a half month trip. But we
got engaged then, and so there was no better way
(24:26):
to spend the engage. I had planned everything. I had
talked to this bookstore, I had a photographer, had all
of this stuff planned, and then COVID happened and I
was like, do you want to go for a walk
in the woods and like some pretty woods outside and
I was like, my photographer was He was like, where
are you guys. I'm like by this tree with a
I don't know. It was like my old birds nests
(24:48):
in it were somewhere over here, and it was it
was very cute and how it all like the engagement
thing happened. And I told her after I was like,
I had this all planned and all this stuff. She
was like when the photographer jumped out of the bushes,
I knew was about to happen because it was just
us and all of a sudden, some random guy with
the camera was.
Speaker 2 (25:04):
Like, right, it's either a really creepy guy or you hire.
Speaker 3 (25:08):
And so I was like, going there this big speech
or whatever, and she was like, yep. As soon as
that guy jumped out of the bushes. I was like, ah,
he's going to propose. So anyways, we got married and
or we got engaged. There's some you know, crazy stuff
with like you know, obviously green cards and all this
kind of fun stuff. But she's here and he's here
and we're just the happiest little couple in the world.
Speaker 2 (25:30):
That's awesome, man. I congratulate. Yeah, Thanky, love story. Thanks,
we got fitting this love music whenever.
Speaker 3 (25:34):
You want whatever you guys, make sure you're eating those
grapefruits today. Check out your latest rom com Regal.
Speaker 2 (25:45):
You had a couple of singles drop already this year.
Hate Me More yep I dropped in January and then
March was twice and tell me about that song? Is
hate Me More? First? Had that song come about?
Speaker 3 (25:55):
And uh, that one was kind of inspired by something
my wife said kimberly, but she jokingly like we talked,
I actually reconnecting. We hadn't talked for three years, she said.
She's like yeah, She's like I would come up with
things that were complete lies, Like I knew they weren't
actually true about you, but like I had to like
try to push you away, so I would come up
with stuff in my head. Like she said, mixer sound
like a psychotic crazy woman, but she's not. She's perfect.
(26:17):
But yeah, I was. I get that, like you come up,
you kind of exaggerate something to just be like yeah, whatever,
blah blah blah. And that kind of came up with
that vibe of like I tell everyone I hate you,
but I hate me more because I actually am, you know,
I still in love with you. And that's what happened.
I mean, that's where it came from. I knew that's
when we went to the right. I wanted to write that,
and I'd listened to a few like reference tracks of
(26:37):
what I wanted, and I wanted this kind of upbeat,
aggressive like it sounds like a banger, you know, this
crazy rock upbeat song, but the those do the words.
And I was like, oh, this is like really vulnerable
and sad. But it was that was kind of on
purpose because it's like I tell everyone I hate you,
but the truth is I am actually really really sad,
and I don't know why I try to tell myself
(26:58):
that I'm not in love with you, because I totally so.
If you hear the song, please come back to me.
But I'm going to sing about it. Yeah, So that
was that one, and then twice. I actually didn't write
it was an outside cut, but when I heard it,
Kimberly was actually with me. And as you now have
heard the story of us like being able to love you,
the hook on that song is if we loved each
(27:19):
other once, could we love each other twice? And as
soon as I heard it, Kimberly was with me, and
I let her listen to it and she was like,
oh my god, like this I relate, we relate, this
is our story, Like, yeah, we obviously loved each other
and then reconnected and we did in fact love each
other twice. So once that kind of that that brought
(27:39):
itself into the pile of the songs, I was like,
this is the one I want to cut, like for sure,
And I asked my distributors. I was like, I like
a couple other songs. I'm like, Nope, that's the one
you should definitely. We really love that for you.
Speaker 2 (27:50):
So do you find it a huge difference in songs
that you write compared to songs that maybe you didn't
write yourself, but you relate to, like the way that
you sing them or the way that you feel them.
Is it two separate emotions or is it similar? If
that makes sense.
Speaker 3 (28:03):
I don't know if I've had enough experience with outside
songs enough to say that. I will say that the
publisher sent me about twenty songs to listen to, and
I skipped anything with like beer in the title or
liquor in the title, or if anyone was randy out
truck or randomly driving by any body of water. Listening
(28:24):
to Tom Petty, I was just like, I'm gonna skip this.
And I listen to them all and I was just like,
he's like. I was like, I like these two. You
listen to those fast. I was like, yeah, I skipped
eighty eight percent of them because I heard beer or
whiskey or something. I was like, I get it, Like
I like country music, I was like, but I feel
like there's plenty of other things to sing about, so
I don't. I think. Long Way Home is another song
(28:45):
of mine that was an outside cut and I heard
it and that was more vocally. I just loved the
melody of that song. And when I demoed it for
the producer and I was like, if you guys don't
like if someone doesn't cut this and a couple of
months like can I have it? Yeah? And he called
me up and I was like, hey, do if you
want to, it's yours. Uh So, I don't know. I
don't think I've never I haven't had enough experience in
(29:06):
like trying to relate to a Sartin song. But when
I heard Twice, I was like, been there, done that.
Loved the song. It was actually a female vocalist on it,
so I think it was meant for, oh, like a
female's perspective. But I was like, well, I'm just going
to drop it down about six whole steps and I'll
sing it.
Speaker 2 (29:25):
Like is that something that you try to stay true
to yourself? Then if it's especially a song that you
know somebody else wrote, you're you're not just gonna cut
a song because somebody tells you, Hey, you should cut
the song, like you have to kind of feel it.
Speaker 3 (29:35):
Oh no, yeah, right, I've got a I will. I
mean that's the kind of the great thing of being
unsigned and independent. Yeah, is I do get to call
my shots. I mean I talked about distributors about it,
but it wasn't like, hey, you guys tell me what
to release. I was like, I want to release this
or this, No, no matter what these two songs are
coming out, which one do you think would be better?
(29:57):
You know for the next song. And so that's a
good feeling to have. But yeah, that emotion in that
song if it feels good to definitely be at that
level to be able to choose your songs and yeah,
not have someone be like, ah, this is more radio
friendly And I'm like, what does that even mean? Like
like I'm all right, I'm okay, Like I wanna it's
(30:20):
whatever I'm doing is not to sound like a vain
pos but like whatever I'm doing is working. So I'm
just gonna keep authenticity always wins. I guess I will
follow up that with that is uh, authenticity always wins.
And I found that last year after all the meetings
that I had, I had, you know, a lot all
at once, and I was like, oh my god, this
(30:41):
is like this is it? Like yeah, labels, but whatever,
I think again, any labels listening to this, I do
think they are resourceful when the time is right. But
I feel like what you can do on your own
is incredible, and there is a very big lane that
is open for independent artists to go and do something,
not to copy and paste like what they're seeing other
(31:03):
people do. And I think that hit me hard last
year when we had the meetings, I was having those
people say is this pop? Is this? I mean, I
think it's my biggest regret is ever second guessing. Like
we went back and we're like, well, maybe we should
like maybe we should put like a dough bro in
this year or something, and it's like I loved that.
I mean, I grew up in North Carolina. I played
the fiddle, I played the mandolin, Like I understand they
(31:25):
grew up playing bluegrass music and all this country stuff.
And I was like it wasn't necessarily a big deal
for me, and but I second guessed it a lot,
and I kind of got super depressed because I was like,
I don't really know what to do, and I got
second guessing who I was and what my new music
was sounding like. And I think a perfect stamp of
whatever this this EP that's coming out in May, I
(31:47):
said to hell with all of that with this, because
last year, I mean, I thought was probably the most depressed.
It was the first time I ever was like, what
would I do if I didn't do this? Because I, yeah,
I just like this sucks like I'm not country enough,
I'm too poppy. I'm hearing pop on the country radio
and I'm hearing country on pop radio, and it's like
I'm trying to do something here. And then we released
the album last year and it started to do its thing.
(32:11):
When I was on the Bobby Show, when Bobby had
me on in May, I was at like twenty four
thousand monthly listeners and we are as of today, thirteen
thousand away from one million.
Speaker 2 (32:21):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (32:22):
Yeah, and as an independent artist, that feels pretty sexy,
Like it feels really good and yeah, so we hearing
all of that last year, I was like, I'm never
wanting to second guess what i want to do in
my own music ever. Again, Like doesn't matter who it is.
And like once the right person hears it and they
(32:44):
want to help, they'll come along and they We're not
going to go. I don't know, you might need to
sing about Jack Daniels or something whiskey you can like
to I don't know if we can say that on air.
I don't know what you can say and what you
can't say on air, but and be like, actually, Jack
Daniels sponsors us, so you know, like whoops, you gotta
say the Actually anyways, guys, I got a new song
coming out called jack d But yeah, the point is
(33:04):
is release the music you want to and the people
who listen to it, if it's good, it'll reciprocate.
Speaker 2 (33:10):
What else you got in the works. As we close
us out here, coming up this year, you said you
have a EP. You're going back to London the UK
coming Home? Is that correct?
Speaker 3 (33:17):
Yeah, the UK is Coming Home Tour, which is yeah,
kind of for my my wife and little man. Obviously
they haven't been able to go back to the country
since then, so I was like, what a cute little
way to call the UK tours coming home tour for them.
The EP's May fifth, it's called ninety four Cord and
we've got a few more things lined up after that
as far as just like songs go and content and
(33:37):
stuff like that, but again just playing those playing the
ticketed shows. We're we're working hopefully get out to the
West Coast soon. We're talking to Vegas and awesome, trying
to do a little West Coast thing out in August.
Speaker 2 (33:48):
So awesome. Well, best of luck, man, I appreciate you
coming on here with them. They find you on social media.
Speaker 3 (33:52):
Canaan Cox, not Kanon, not Cannon c A n aa
n Cox. Yeah, Instagram, TikTok just pretty much anywhere. It's
always it's just there's no like the Cannon Cox or
Canaan Underscore got.
Speaker 2 (34:05):
Just not Canan Cox music.
Speaker 3 (34:07):
Yeah, No, it's I have a the you know, a
pretty unusual name. So that's always the good part is like, ah,
I don't have to worry about my handle being taken.
Speaker 2 (34:15):
Yeah that is true. That's true. I to deal with
that and change mind to the kickoff Kevin, Like I
don't really love it, but it is.
Speaker 3 (34:20):
Yeah, I'll finish this little story. There is because football player.
It's not like in the NFL. But his name is
Canan Cox and I've we've known each other because of
the name, like never met or anything. And I wasn't
big on TikTok when it first came out. I didn't
get until like twenty twenty, but he had already had it,
and I was like, oh my god, the first thing
that I'm gonna have to be like the Cannon Cox
(34:42):
or Cannon Cox Official or something. And then I was
talking to my guitar player on the road and he
was kind of like giving me crap about it. He's like, oh,
you're not really the can and Cox then if you're
not on there, And we were joking around and we
went and looked, and I don't know if he got
kicked off or if he deleted or something, but we
wouldn't search and he wasn't there, and I was like,
oh my god. I was like, pull over and like
grab the phone, went and said change handle and I
(35:04):
was like at Canan Cox and it was like approved
and I was like, yeah, I got it, like it's
officially canon Cox.
Speaker 2 (35:10):
Who knows how long that would have lasted or how
long it was even out there.
Speaker 3 (35:13):
I had, Yeah, have my guitar player not been giving
me crap for it, I probably wouldn't have been like,
let's see what this guy's doing on TikTok and I
was like, he's not here anymore, Like grab it.
Speaker 2 (35:23):
So anyways, we'll go follow him at Canaan Cox c
A N A A N c o X go check
him out, follow him streamings music, look at all up boredom.
I appreciate it, Canaan, this has been a lot of fun, man,
and look forward to, uh what the future holds for you.
Thanks Boss, we'll talk so all right, sounds good.
Unsigned and Independent Season two, episode four with I got
Kevin O'Connell, Hey, Kevin, who's in this week?
Speaker 2 (00:16):
We got Canaan Cox in this week.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
Now I know Canaan because Canaan came up and said hello.
He was at the time waiting tables as he You
know a lot of artists they have to work jobs
so they can pursue their career music like most do.
And so I met up because it was like, hey,
I don't know if you have any time, but check
it out. I saw his name and his Instagram, remembered it,
went to it and that took him out and opened
(00:38):
for me for sure. I mean we've kind of had,
you know, a cool little experience together. Why were you
intrigued by Canaan Cox.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
Because he reached back out and I was interested in
hearing more of his story and we got in depth
more if even his love story, which is the first
time I've done this on the podcast, and kind of
how that molded him into the artist he is today.
It's a crazy one. His love story's crazy love story. Yeah,
he flew to your don't give too much on a
one way ticket. That's all I'm gonna say. Dang to
try to get a girl back.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
I don't even know this, okay, and then at true
or false, I don't know if you guys talked about it.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
He used to perform on cruise ships. Do you guys
talk about that?
Speaker 1 (01:12):
Yeah, Canaan has done a lot of interesting things to
lead him to this point. Now, So how'd you feel
about him when you were done? Do you feel like
he's a guy that could really take off soon?
Speaker 2 (01:22):
Yeah, he's got a great character to him. He's funny,
he's very energetic. He does it all, from dancing to songwriting.
He does dance everything. Yeah, he does everything. He's just
an entertainer.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
And isn't the case with a lot of these artists.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
They have to do everything because they are unsigned and independent,
so they have to learn all these skills because they
have a recor label putting a bunch of.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
Money into them.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
Yet yeah, exactly, So here we go, unsigned and independent.
It's Kevin and Canaan Cox, which, by the way, his
new EP, end Up in a Song comes out May fifth,
and he said, hey, think he messaged me once and
set His streams went up to like twenty four thousand
a month to now a million after it came on
the show, which is pretty good for the old Bobby
Bone show. UF I do say so MYSELFE. And it
(02:00):
also shows really how good he is. All right, that's
the deal. Kevin O'Connell, unsigned and independent here on the
Bobby Cast.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
Canaan. How are we doing today? Man?
Speaker 3 (02:08):
Living the dream? I'm glad you said Canaan. Sometimes everyone
says Cannon like Canon Cox, like the most perfect poor
name on the planet, is right.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
I didn't think about that until just now. It doesn't
I've said, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
There's been time. I like, what where did you What
did you think that was? How you said that?
Speaker 2 (02:28):
I am glad you brought that up right away. I
wanted to start with that because when I look at it,
I mean, I didn't think you're king. But the pronunciation
is Canaan, but it's spelled c A n A A n. Yeah,
so where does that name come from?
Speaker 3 (02:42):
It's Biblical so like the land of Canaan. I mean
that depends on where you're from and how much Bobo
you've read, I guess in your life or where you
grew up. But yeah, the land of Canaan, it's like
where Moses took It's the Promised Land or milk. Yeah,
so that makes me sound like a complete egotistical butthole.
But no, I'm the Promised Land. No, but that is it,
(03:03):
you know in the Bible, that's where it's from.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
Okay, well that shows how much I guess religion Bible.
I am well versed in.
Speaker 3 (03:10):
You are not alone. Let people say Cannon Kanan is
what Starbucks usually says, Canan Cox. I'm like, what the planetary?
I mean, of course, like it's my name, so I
know that it's that, but usually I just say a
different name, or if my wife's with me, I'm just like, look,
you have a name for the order. I'm like Kimberly,
not even not even not even going to try, not
even gonna try.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
Have you ever even used a fake name for yourself?
Like mine's as simple as can be. I'm Kevin. Yeah,
you know, have you ever said that I'm Kevin, I'm
Dave Ben Ben I've said Ben. Here you go.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
I was like, I'm Ben.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
Yeah, but yeah, have you ever told your parents or
your mom like, well, why do you have to give
me this name as people just mispronounced all the time.
Speaker 3 (03:46):
No, I mean I'm just like student to the skid
with it. I love it. I've only met one other
person with that name, so it's unique. But I've never
never had any problems with it or never been like
come on, and luckily now, like Starbucks is probably the
only you know, coffee shops are the only place that
ever like take your name for certain orders or whatever.
And I just order online now so they can't get
(04:07):
it wrong. You just order on the app. And it's
like they still say it wrong, but at least I'll
spelled right. Sometimes I'll even give it to them. I'm
like c a n a a n and It'll come
out k a an e en and I'm like, what
the hell, Kenney caane, it's not my Instagram profile, and literally,
because it happens so much that it's literally it's my
(04:27):
Instagram Bio says, it's pronounced caanaan k a y hyphen
n I N kanaan.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
So you're just like, right off the bat, I want
everybody to know right now this is in on this. Yeah,
don't start making grap up here. It's kanaan.
Speaker 3 (04:39):
It's Kanaan.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
Well, speaking of your mom family, parents, where are you from?
Talk about your upbringing a little bit.
Speaker 3 (04:45):
Yeah, grew up in uh Hendersonville, North Carolina. It's just
uh south of Asheville because no one ever knows where
Hendersonville is unless you're here, and then you think it's Hendersonville, Tennessee.
And yeah so but everyone pretty much knows where Ashville is.
But yeah, grew up, grew up there, you know, a
good old musical family. Mom still actually plays in a
like a band around town, just kind of the bar
scene over there. And Dad rights. We still write. We
(05:08):
haven't written in a long time there before things started
to kind of I don't know, quote unquote take off.
We've we had a few songs like actually out there
into Spotify and DSP's and stuff that he had actually
co written with me. But yeah, so we just kind
of grew up and music. My grandma played the piano.
I grew up listening to you know, her play and
Mom play and Dad play and those kind of things
and just kind of surrounded myself.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
When did you move to Nashville?
Speaker 3 (05:31):
I did cruise ships for three years. I performed a
cruise ships, just like playing the guitar on there and
got the you know, traveling and play in the pubs
and stuff like that, and then I moved right at
the end of twenty and sixteen is when I moved
to Nashville. Just yeah, I didn't know anyone, didn't know
anything that was going on. You know, obviously you hear
the cliches of you know, play downtown and right and
(05:53):
there's no If there was a right way to do it,
then we'd all be you know, famous by nowland country music,
yah know, and there there was just isn't and definitely
not not now I will get there. But yeah, So
I went downtown, started playing some shows, just did my thing.
I was literally what I was doing on cruise ships,
just copy and paste towards you know, Nashville. But knew
(06:14):
that that was just not a dead end, but it
wasn't where I wanted to be. I know a lot
of people get down there and they just get stuck
down there. So I went down there for a few
months and then started to do just trying to book
anything outside of here. I mean, you know, go and
look out, oh this place spend you know, random middle
of nowhere, Kentucky has this brewery, Hey brewery, do you
(06:35):
mind pay me one hundred bucks, I'll come up with
my pa and play for three hours. And did that
and did that for a while, and then it turned
out to be something pretty cool later, like we did
like a small radio tour to secondary radio, which is
kind of the you know, more of the rural parts
of the states and stuff, and there's like five stations
in Wisconsin alone, and so we would I did a
(06:58):
radio campaign there and I was again, You're like, hey,
you adn't come up on a Wednesday, play in the
corner from four to seven on our happy hour at
the you know, off brand Applebee's. Yeah, you know, and
you're like, all right, cool, and you go and you're
playing right by the you know, men's toilet, and you're like,
this is cool, I guess. But now having you know,
you go and then those shows turn into full band shows,
(07:18):
and then full band shows you turn into ticketed shows,
and now like, yeah, we're going in May, we're on
the road playing in Green Bay and Omaha, that's all
ticketed shows. Oma Hole's almost sold out. Green Bay's a
guaranteed show, and you know, yeah, the hundred hundred bucks
show in the corner turned into those people who saw
you there are also there and now they have every
(07:39):
single shirt that you ever put out and know every
single song in the world, and yeah, it's just it
was a cool, cool build.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
Yeah. Did you ever have a time during that building
where you were thinking to yourself, maybe one night and
you're like, damn, I don't know, I want to do
this anymore? Some long nights.
Speaker 3 (07:54):
Yeah. So two nineteen, we were like we were just
sitting hard. I mean, we was just we can warrior stuff,
a lot of cover gigs, and things were starting to
progress because we were playing a bunch and again this
was pre COVID, and then COVID happened, and like we
had like chatted up with a few agencies I had
opened for a few folks, you know, some repid old names,
(08:15):
and I was like, okay, like this is going. We
got into some of the publishing houses to write, and
then COVID happened, and I'll see, it just screwed everybody
over well depending on which way you looked at it.
And then after the COVID kind of like cleared off,
we started doing the cover things again, and it was
right around I guess, you know, twenty twenty, twenty twenty one,
(08:39):
the things were back kind of renal quote unquote normal.
I got off the stage a lot and I'm like,
oh yeah, like we rocked, and I was like this sucks,
Like I'm so tired of playing everyone else's songs but mine. Yeah,
And before that, I don't think it was necessarily you know,
it was it was putting food on the table. You know,
it was putting you know, keeping the lights on, putting
(09:00):
a roof over my head. And I got married, Yeah,
in twenty twenty one, you know, got a little guy
and to take care of as well, and so those
you know, living at rock Star Weekend Warrior life became
less and less appealing because I was like this, you know,
this sucks. I don't want to miss his bedtime. And
that's actually I went back to serving. It's when I
(09:22):
gave Bobby, you know, Bobby Bonones the kosher at the restaurant.
And after that, I think I worked one more shift
and I picked up one of my friends needed someone
to pick up a shift because there's something happened. I
was like, yeah, I'll do it. And then why didn't
work a single day again? I'm on a tangent. I
was literally in the middle of this. I was like,
where did we what was the question? The question? No, Yes,
(09:44):
there will have been times when I'm like, this sucks.
How do I get out of it? I think that
was last year. Yeah, we got We played a show
and one of the venues didn't pay us, and like
looking at my band, I was like, yeah, guys, I'm
gonna have to just pay out of my pocket and
being sure you guys are taking care of I call
my dad. I was like in tears, like I don't
know what to do anymore, Like I hate playing these songs.
(10:07):
I don't want to do this, but also I don't
know what else I would do if I didn't do this.
And that was like a huge journey moment just for
like either you can go and keep playing those shows
and hate your life, or get off your not get
off your But I've always been like grinding and stuff,
but it's like there, it was a different game plan. Yeah,
I had different initiative. I guess.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
Yeah, no, I get it. And then you talked about
this story with Bobby. For those of listening maybe they
haven't heard you before. You've been on the show a
couple of times and you've told the story, But can
you tell that again real quick right now, I'll snop
this of it and just kind of what happened that
night and how you came across Bobby and basically why
we're sitting here doing this.
Speaker 3 (10:40):
Yeah. Yeah, So the serving job I have when I
first moved into town obviously didn't do that anymore. I
stopped doing that in seventeen when I started playing some acoustics.
Shows went back during COVID. Obviously all shows got canceled
in twenty twenty, so I was like, hey, restaurant, Dulfriscoes,
do you guys want to have me back out? And yeah,
(11:00):
long story short, I saw Bobby Bones come in. I
was like, I have to say something, like gotta do something,
So wrote my name down on a coaster and I
just literally said, hey, and you know, love your story,
love the hustle. I'm hustling, Like check me out, enjoy
your dinner. And they just got him and Kaitlyn got
married just you know, not too long or before that,
(11:21):
and so I just like, congratulations, enjoy. Did think anything
of it, and then literally I think it was at
Walmart the next day, like getting groceries or something, and
my phone round was like, Hey, this is a Micah.
We just give Bobby your name. Would you like to
be on the show? We'd like to give you a
call at least on Monday, and I was freaked out,
freaked out called was on the show, and then he
invited me on the show actually two days later to
(11:44):
sing and play, and it was yeah, it's definitely changed
my life. He's been, He's messaged me a few times
on you know, Instagram or I had a bunch of
people come out to shows. We try to book shows
that he was syndicated in with iHeart and some pds
like reached out and it was really cool and I
would take pictures like, hey, like this is because of
you know, send him sending the pictures to him and
(12:04):
he's like, this is, you know, super cool. And then
he had me back out on the show about eight
months later just to kind of check in, and he
had me open for him at the Strawberry Festival awesome,
which was yeah, which is super cool. But that was
that story and here we are now.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
And that's the leads to this, What are some other
hobbies you have outside of making music or songwriting anything
else not musically involved.
Speaker 3 (12:32):
Literally, I I don't think I have I don't have hobbies.
I hate to be that person, but it's like if
i'm not dad husband or we're working on the career.
I'll go to the movies, like I love cinema, and
that's kind of my two hour window of like I'll
actually turn my phone off and like not look at anything.
I'll just be like just immerse yourself into this world
(12:52):
and just not think about anything, which usually I'll watch
it and I'll get inspired and I'm like, oh, that's
a cool idea for a music video. So I'll have
to tell myself to stop that. But yeah, I don't
mean fitness. I work out. I love that. I used
to be like two hundred and eighty pounds and so
that's that's another story. But yeah, fitness is a huge
part of my life. So that's again the five o'clock
(13:15):
five am club, getting up, working out in the morning,
getting that done.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
What is that fitness journey you're talking about. Then I
read upon that you had a major turning point in
your life physically mentally. Yeah, he talked about that story
a little.
Speaker 3 (13:26):
Yeah, for sure, it was in a horrible relationship. That's
the key of all good songs. And yeah, but she
just led me for another dude, literally said she wasn't
attraction anymore. And I was like, well, this is fun,
this is fantastic. Wrote a lot of songs about it,
but it did. Yeah, it hit me hard, and I
was like, this is I just yeah, I didn't like
(13:47):
what I was seeing in the mirror, not just physically
but mentally. I was like, man, I've been in denial
for a year and a half of this relationship. I
don't like the guy I see like it just there
was no security at all. It was just all insecure
and yeah. I called my brother's friend who was a trainer.
I was on a cruise ship at the time. I
was in the middle of the Mediterranean, I remember exactly.
(14:09):
It was like yesterday, and I messaged him. I was like, hey, man,
this is Canaan. I'm a Casey's little brother. I know
you're a trainer. Like, I don't care if you like
tie me to a truck and make me pull it
up a hill. I want to get in shape and
like get my life back together. And left the cruise
ship because that's where my my ex was at the
time and we were on the same ship together. Oh wow,
Yeah it was horrible. Well that's a whole nother thing.
(14:31):
We'll won't get there. But yeah, so I had literally
I was like, I can't be here anymore. The furthest
we could be away from each other is like one
hundred yards at all times. So uh yeah, flew back
and just it's been a thing ever since, like literally
since I think I did one more contract for Carnival
instead of the other ship I was on. But then yeah,
(14:53):
and then moved here, and then I met another trainer.
But yeah, it was around two eighty five at my worst,
I guess, and just went for it and I never
looked back. And it's just a huge, huge part of
like I said, yeah, my life. My it is a hobby.
But I can go like two and go forty eight
hours without doing cardio. I don't have to lift, but
if I can go forty eight hours without at least
(15:16):
doing some kind of cardio or I will turn into
a monster.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
Yes, I know exactly what you're saying. Huge part of
my life as well. Yeah, I mean physically mentally everything.
I haven't worked on anything two days now, and I'm like,
I'm going crazy a little bit. Meant yeah, not even
just physically mentally. You were at two eighty five.
Speaker 3 (15:30):
Yeah, jeez, I was two eighty five and then the
we shot, I did the trainer back home in North Carolina,
and then I got here and then I wanted to
We were shooting a music video and it was like
a boxing theme, and I got with a trainer here
and he just changed my life because it was always like,
you know, always cool, like you know, you're eating granola
and yogurt and like fru, like this is healthy life.
(15:51):
So I dropped all that, like the excess weight up front,
and I was like cool, but I still like wasn't
looking like I wanted to. And then I met my
trainer here and he was like, screw all of that,
like you don't need to be in any of this.
And it's because so obviously, you know, you talk about
it and everyone let'say, oh blah blah blah. You looked
fine the way you were and whatever all that kind
of stuff. I was like, what I wanted to look like,
(16:13):
what I wanted to be I was. He was like,
you need to eat chicken and asparagus. That was it.
That's it. That was it. And so we had one
month for this music video and so yeah, for one month,
I had a couple of egg whites in the morning,
half a grapefruit, and then chicken breast and asparagus, protein
(16:35):
shake and almonds at three chicken and asparagus, chicken and asparagus.
And that's what I ate for an entire month before
the video, and it was everything. But I mean, obviously
that's extreme, and I'm not telling anyone to go out
there and do that. Unless you have a video in
four weeks, then sure go for it. After the video,
I did smash a whole beer, nachos, and a burger.
For those of you who are like, oh my god,
body shaming, but yes.
Speaker 1 (16:59):
So.
Speaker 3 (17:01):
He just shanged my life with just like I didn't
know what GI was of a I don't know if
anyone else does too, but like a fruit, like oh yeah,
like eating fruits good. I was like, yeah, well, actually, watermelon.
The GI the glucose index of a watermelon. Basically, it's
the speed of which something turns into sugar in your body.
A grapefruit is low. You think of like a speed.
(17:21):
So it's like cool. I could get this wrong, it
could be the opposite, it could be whatever, but great fruit.
Let's just say that. Like it's like a twenty twenty GI,
which means it breaks down in your body very slow,
which gives your body time to use it as energy.
Where you eat a watermelon and it basically is eating
skittles and you've got about fifteen seconds before your body goes, hmm,
(17:44):
that sugar, let us store that away is fat. And
so just learning all about that kind of stuff, it's
a big I guess you could say fitness is a
hobby because I do really love it in that sense
of how excited I just got talking about glucose index.
But yeah, just learning about all of those things and
it's like, yeah, an apple a day knocked your away,
but it'll also keep those love handles on.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
You know, what are some good ones then they eat?
Speaker 3 (18:06):
I mean, yeah, greatefruit is the best, which I was
surprised because it's so tasty. Grapefruits like cherries, like oranges
are okay, blueberries are like right in that mid range.
But sometimes like the watermelon's the kiwi's bananas, obviously it's
a little bit different. It's a different carb, it's a
different sugar, but it's still breaking down out your body
at a certain pace. So you can literally if you're
(18:30):
if you're actually interested in any of those whoever is listening,
just literally go like GI level fruits and the same
thing you do it with meats, you can do it
with vegetables. Office of vegetables aren't that bad, but like
the fruits are the big ones as far as like
how fast something breaks down in your body?
Speaker 2 (18:45):
So okay, well if you you know you were tuning
into health and yeah, yeah, there we are.
Speaker 3 (18:50):
Anyways, I got songs out to those.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
Back to the music. Yeah, back to your life. You
know you said you had a bad relationship before and
now you're married, you have a kid. I see on Instagram,
beautiful kid wife. Everything you look at be what is
that relationship? Like how'd you two meet? And what's the
love story behind that?
Speaker 3 (19:08):
That is for an entire other episode. If I won't
tell you all the things because it would take forever,
and it's very sweet. It is a Nicholas Sparks book,
if I do say so myself. And Lisa's over there.
She knows a little bit of the story. She knows
what's going down. But we met on cruise ships. She
was a dancer. I was a performer. I had just
gotten out of that crappy relationship that I was just
(19:28):
talking about, So I was in a pretty vulnerable place.
She was actually dating someone else. Yeah, and then whatever.
A couple months went by, and then we started dating
each other and I knew she was it, Like I
knew at whatever, twenty five, twenty six years old. I
was like, this is all my life and it could
have just been like stupid love and young love or whatever.
But I'm here to tell you that it wasn't because
(19:48):
I married her, but we broke up. She's from England,
so I got on a different ship, so we were
about to do long distance. We only dated for like
two and a half maybe three months, and that's how
I kind of knew that she was it. I was like,
we didn't date very long, but it still had the
hold of me. But being this stupid twenty five year
old boy that I was, I was like, we're doing
(20:10):
long disneys. I don't know if this is going to work.
I broke it off and it was. Yeah, it was
just devastating. And then so, yeah, we separated three years past.
I'd moved here, hadn't. I'd reached out to her a
few times, like tried to like, hey, I've had dreams
about us being together and waking up and just straight
up tears crying because you're not actually in my life
(20:31):
at all. She didn't respond to anything, never said a
word to me. Yeah. And then in twenty nineteen, I
get a phone call and it was her and I
was like, oh my god, I've waited for this phone
call from my enentire life. And she got the English
accent though. You know what I'm saying is that I
know what are you doing over that? I'm like, And
so we chatted for like an hour and a half
(20:53):
and she told me about the my son. It's not
biologically mine, but he is. He is mine. We're actually
like one more step we have like a to sign
on Wednesday and he is officially adopted. So I thank you.
I'm really excited about that. Yeah, so she called we
just reconnected. I wrote a song literally as we hung
up the phone. What's called When it comes to you guys,
(21:13):
go listen to it and stream it on Spotify and
Apple Music and iHeartRadio and everything whatever you listen.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
To, wherever you get it, wherever you listen to it.
Speaker 3 (21:22):
He legally downloaded on limeire alright, dating ourselves, Yeah a
little bit or whatever. It's on my top five of MySpace. No, anyways,
we reconnected. It took us a bit. Obviously we hadn't
chatted for three years. I have you know, just had
my head down, lost the weight doing this thing. I
was just like I'm going to chase the stream and
(21:43):
was doing a pretty good job. Like I said, it
was twenty nineteen, like agents were kind of talking to us,
we were about to do another UK tour, all of
this fun stuff. So it took us about a year
to finally be like who are we now? What is
this going on? Like there's a kid involved, I don't
know what's going on, Like there's a lot. So it
took us about he and then we finally figured it
out and then I flew over there. I surprised her
(22:06):
the first time. I just showed up on a front doorstep,
which could have gone one of two ways. It went
the good way.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
Good.
Speaker 3 (22:10):
Yeah, happy to hear that.
Speaker 2 (22:11):
Yeah, I mean you got the ring on, so.
Speaker 3 (22:12):
Yeah, the rings on? She well that was that was
one of the two. So the first time I went over,
I was like, hey, I'm still super like into this,
like if you are, and we you know, chatted and
then like once went by and we were like okay,
I'm still kind of scared, like what is this? I
don't know? And then finally I got my you know,
I stopped being stupid and I was like, I'm in
love with this girl, like I don't care what it's
going to take to be with her. But I thought
(22:34):
I was losing her. She was kind of on the
like hey, I've heard this kind of stuff before kind
of stuff. So I got on another plane literally the
next my drummer we were heading back from a show.
He uh Daniel. I was like, hey, man, let me
get back. We took me to the airport. I gotta
go over there, like I've got to like show her.
I bought a one way ticket. I was with a bag.
I was like, showed him on a front doorstep. I
(22:55):
was like, hey, I'm here to be with you, like
it is your move. You tell me what you want
me to do, but I'm here to tell you that
I'm in love with you and I want to be
with the rest of my life. And she told me
to go home.
Speaker 2 (23:05):
Oh yeah, shut us. So yeah, I I was not anticipating.
Speaker 3 (23:09):
Yeah. So that the first time was great, this time wasn't.
So I was like, can I get a ride back
to the train station please? So got a ride got
uh yeah. On the train ride from Norwich back to London,
I wrote another song, one percent go stream it. I
wrote it on the train and I just knew like
we were going to end up together. I knew, like
(23:30):
I was devastated. My dad called me and he was like,
I had a feeling that that's the way that was
going to go. But I just wanted you to have
your own journey there. And I was like, thanks, Pops,
which I wouldn't have listened to me if you told
me not to go out. Se what over gone?
Speaker 2 (23:43):
It's good.
Speaker 3 (23:43):
So I wrote that song and then I just I
messaged her and I just said, hey, like I don't
know when or what, but I know that we end
up together. And I was like there's stuff obviously, you know,
biological dad stuff was going, you know, all this stuff,
and I was just like, I will be here whenever
you or are ready to be with me. Yeah, And
about like a month later, she was like I miss you,
(24:05):
and I was like, let's do this. I went over there,
I visited, I landed in England and COVID they shut
down everything. If I had gone one more day later,
I wouldn't have been able to get into the country,
got over there, got like a two week trip turned
into a two and a half month trip. But we
got engaged then, and so there was no better way
(24:26):
to spend the engage. I had planned everything. I had
talked to this bookstore, I had a photographer, had all
of this stuff planned, and then COVID happened and I
was like, do you want to go for a walk
in the woods and like some pretty woods outside and
I was like, my photographer was He was like, where
are you guys. I'm like by this tree with a
I don't know. It was like my old birds nests
(24:48):
in it were somewhere over here, and it was it
was very cute and how it all like the engagement
thing happened. And I told her after I was like,
I had this all planned and all this stuff. She
was like when the photographer jumped out of the bushes,
I knew was about to happen because it was just
us and all of a sudden, some random guy with
the camera was.
Speaker 2 (25:04):
Like, right, it's either a really creepy guy or you hire.
Speaker 3 (25:08):
And so I was like, going there this big speech
or whatever, and she was like, yep. As soon as
that guy jumped out of the bushes. I was like, ah,
he's going to propose. So anyways, we got married and
or we got engaged. There's some you know, crazy stuff
with like you know, obviously green cards and all this
kind of fun stuff. But she's here and he's here
and we're just the happiest little couple in the world.
Speaker 2 (25:30):
That's awesome, man. I congratulate. Yeah, Thanky, love story. Thanks,
we got fitting this love music whenever.
Speaker 3 (25:34):
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Speaker 2 (25:45):
You had a couple of singles drop already this year.
Hate Me More yep I dropped in January and then
March was twice and tell me about that song? Is
hate Me More? First? Had that song come about?
Speaker 3 (25:55):
And uh, that one was kind of inspired by something
my wife said kimberly, but she jokingly like we talked,
I actually reconnecting. We hadn't talked for three years, she said.
She's like yeah, She's like I would come up with
things that were complete lies, Like I knew they weren't
actually true about you, but like I had to like
try to push you away, so I would come up
with stuff in my head. Like she said, mixer sound
like a psychotic crazy woman, but she's not. She's perfect.
(26:17):
But yeah, I was. I get that, like you come up,
you kind of exaggerate something to just be like yeah, whatever,
blah blah blah. And that kind of came up with
that vibe of like I tell everyone I hate you,
but I hate me more because I actually am, you know,
I still in love with you. And that's what happened.
I mean, that's where it came from. I knew that's
when we went to the right. I wanted to write that,
and I'd listened to a few like reference tracks of
(26:37):
what I wanted, and I wanted this kind of upbeat,
aggressive like it sounds like a banger, you know, this
crazy rock upbeat song, but the those do the words.
And I was like, oh, this is like really vulnerable
and sad. But it was that was kind of on
purpose because it's like I tell everyone I hate you,
but the truth is I am actually really really sad,
and I don't know why I try to tell myself
(26:58):
that I'm not in love with you, because I totally so.
If you hear the song, please come back to me.
But I'm going to sing about it. Yeah, So that
was that one, and then twice. I actually didn't write
it was an outside cut, but when I heard it,
Kimberly was actually with me. And as you now have
heard the story of us like being able to love you,
the hook on that song is if we loved each
(27:19):
other once, could we love each other twice? And as
soon as I heard it, Kimberly was with me, and
I let her listen to it and she was like,
oh my god, like this I relate, we relate, this
is our story, Like, yeah, we obviously loved each other
and then reconnected and we did in fact love each
other twice. So once that kind of that that brought
(27:39):
itself into the pile of the songs, I was like,
this is the one I want to cut, like for sure,
And I asked my distributors. I was like, I like
a couple other songs. I'm like, Nope, that's the one
you should definitely. We really love that for you.
Speaker 2 (27:50):
So do you find it a huge difference in songs
that you write compared to songs that maybe you didn't
write yourself, but you relate to, like the way that
you sing them or the way that you feel them.
Is it two separate emotions or is it similar? If
that makes sense.
Speaker 3 (28:03):
I don't know if I've had enough experience with outside
songs enough to say that. I will say that the
publisher sent me about twenty songs to listen to, and
I skipped anything with like beer in the title or
liquor in the title, or if anyone was randy out
truck or randomly driving by any body of water. Listening
(28:24):
to Tom Petty, I was just like, I'm gonna skip this.
And I listen to them all and I was just like,
he's like. I was like, I like these two. You
listen to those fast. I was like, yeah, I skipped
eighty eight percent of them because I heard beer or
whiskey or something. I was like, I get it, Like
I like country music, I was like, but I feel
like there's plenty of other things to sing about, so
I don't. I think. Long Way Home is another song
(28:45):
of mine that was an outside cut and I heard
it and that was more vocally. I just loved the
melody of that song. And when I demoed it for
the producer and I was like, if you guys don't
like if someone doesn't cut this and a couple of
months like can I have it? Yeah? And he called
me up and I was like, hey, do if you
want to, it's yours. Uh So, I don't know. I
don't think I've never I haven't had enough experience in
(29:06):
like trying to relate to a Sartin song. But when
I heard Twice, I was like, been there, done that.
Loved the song. It was actually a female vocalist on it,
so I think it was meant for, oh, like a
female's perspective. But I was like, well, I'm just going
to drop it down about six whole steps and I'll
sing it.
Speaker 2 (29:25):
Like is that something that you try to stay true
to yourself? Then if it's especially a song that you
know somebody else wrote, you're you're not just gonna cut
a song because somebody tells you, Hey, you should cut
the song, like you have to kind of feel it.
Speaker 3 (29:35):
Oh no, yeah, right, I've got a I will. I
mean that's the kind of the great thing of being
unsigned and independent. Yeah, is I do get to call
my shots. I mean I talked about distributors about it,
but it wasn't like, hey, you guys tell me what
to release. I was like, I want to release this
or this, No, no matter what these two songs are
coming out, which one do you think would be better?
(29:57):
You know for the next song. And so that's a
good feeling to have. But yeah, that emotion in that
song if it feels good to definitely be at that
level to be able to choose your songs and yeah,
not have someone be like, ah, this is more radio
friendly And I'm like, what does that even mean? Like
like I'm all right, I'm okay, Like I wanna it's
(30:20):
whatever I'm doing is not to sound like a vain
pos but like whatever I'm doing is working. So I'm
just gonna keep authenticity always wins. I guess I will
follow up that with that is uh, authenticity always wins.
And I found that last year after all the meetings
that I had, I had, you know, a lot all
at once, and I was like, oh my god, this
(30:41):
is like this is it? Like yeah, labels, but whatever,
I think again, any labels listening to this, I do
think they are resourceful when the time is right. But
I feel like what you can do on your own
is incredible, and there is a very big lane that
is open for independent artists to go and do something,
not to copy and paste like what they're seeing other
(31:03):
people do. And I think that hit me hard last
year when we had the meetings, I was having those
people say is this pop? Is this? I mean, I
think it's my biggest regret is ever second guessing. Like
we went back and we're like, well, maybe we should
like maybe we should put like a dough bro in
this year or something, and it's like I loved that.
I mean, I grew up in North Carolina. I played
the fiddle, I played the mandolin, Like I understand they
(31:25):
grew up playing bluegrass music and all this country stuff.
And I was like it wasn't necessarily a big deal
for me, and but I second guessed it a lot,
and I kind of got super depressed because I was like,
I don't really know what to do, and I got
second guessing who I was and what my new music
was sounding like. And I think a perfect stamp of
whatever this this EP that's coming out in May, I
(31:47):
said to hell with all of that with this, because
last year, I mean, I thought was probably the most depressed.
It was the first time I ever was like, what
would I do if I didn't do this? Because I, yeah,
I just like this sucks like I'm not country enough,
I'm too poppy. I'm hearing pop on the country radio
and I'm hearing country on pop radio, and it's like
I'm trying to do something here. And then we released
the album last year and it started to do its thing.
(32:11):
When I was on the Bobby Show, when Bobby had
me on in May, I was at like twenty four
thousand monthly listeners and we are as of today, thirteen
thousand away from one million.
Speaker 2 (32:21):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (32:22):
Yeah, and as an independent artist, that feels pretty sexy,
Like it feels really good and yeah, so we hearing
all of that last year, I was like, I'm never
wanting to second guess what i want to do in
my own music ever. Again, Like doesn't matter who it is.
And like once the right person hears it and they
(32:44):
want to help, they'll come along and they We're not
going to go. I don't know, you might need to
sing about Jack Daniels or something whiskey you can like
to I don't know if we can say that on air.
I don't know what you can say and what you
can't say on air, but and be like, actually, Jack
Daniels sponsors us, so you know, like whoops, you gotta
say the Actually anyways, guys, I got a new song
coming out called jack d But yeah, the point is
(33:04):
is release the music you want to and the people
who listen to it, if it's good, it'll reciprocate.
Speaker 2 (33:10):
What else you got in the works. As we close
us out here, coming up this year, you said you
have a EP. You're going back to London the UK
coming Home? Is that correct?
Speaker 3 (33:17):
Yeah, the UK is Coming Home Tour, which is yeah,
kind of for my my wife and little man. Obviously
they haven't been able to go back to the country
since then, so I was like, what a cute little
way to call the UK tours coming home tour for them.
The EP's May fifth, it's called ninety four Cord and
we've got a few more things lined up after that
as far as just like songs go and content and
(33:37):
stuff like that, but again just playing those playing the
ticketed shows. We're we're working hopefully get out to the
West Coast soon. We're talking to Vegas and awesome, trying
to do a little West Coast thing out in August.
Speaker 2 (33:48):
So awesome. Well, best of luck, man, I appreciate you
coming on here with them. They find you on social media.
Speaker 3 (33:52):
Canaan Cox, not Kanon, not Cannon c A n aa
n Cox. Yeah, Instagram, TikTok just pretty much anywhere. It's
always it's just there's no like the Cannon Cox or
Canaan Underscore got.
Speaker 2 (34:05):
Just not Canan Cox music.
Speaker 3 (34:07):
Yeah, No, it's I have a the you know, a
pretty unusual name. So that's always the good part is like, ah,
I don't have to worry about my handle being taken.
Speaker 2 (34:15):
Yeah that is true. That's true. I to deal with
that and change mind to the kickoff Kevin, Like I
don't really love it, but it is.
Speaker 3 (34:20):
Yeah, I'll finish this little story. There is because football player.
It's not like in the NFL. But his name is
Canan Cox and I've we've known each other because of
the name, like never met or anything. And I wasn't
big on TikTok when it first came out. I didn't
get until like twenty twenty, but he had already had it,
and I was like, oh my god, the first thing
that I'm gonna have to be like the Cannon Cox
(34:42):
or Cannon Cox Official or something. And then I was
talking to my guitar player on the road and he
was kind of like giving me crap about it. He's like, oh,
you're not really the can and Cox then if you're
not on there, And we were joking around and we
went and looked, and I don't know if he got
kicked off or if he deleted or something, but we
wouldn't search and he wasn't there, and I was like,
oh my god. I was like, pull over and like
grab the phone, went and said change handle and I
(35:04):
was like at Canan Cox and it was like approved
and I was like, yeah, I got it, like it's
officially canon Cox.
Speaker 2 (35:10):
Who knows how long that would have lasted or how
long it was even out there.
Speaker 3 (35:13):
I had, Yeah, have my guitar player not been giving
me crap for it, I probably wouldn't have been like,
let's see what this guy's doing on TikTok and I
was like, he's not here anymore, Like grab it.
Speaker 2 (35:23):
So anyways, we'll go follow him at Canaan Cox c
A N A A N c o X go check
him out, follow him streamings music, look at all up boredom.
I appreciate it, Canaan, this has been a lot of fun, man,
and look forward to, uh what the future holds for you.
Thanks Boss, we'll talk so all right, sounds good.
Host
Bobby Bones
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