Tenille Arts talks about how she grew up on a wheat farm in Canada and moved to Nashville after being discovered on YouTube. She talks about how she went on the Bachelor twice to perform, gave her Top 3 Life Moments and for the first time ever we have someone perform on the podcast.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Hey guys, a special bring It All Back episode from
So This Is to Neil Arts. She came by the house.
She brought her guitar, which people don't normally do for this.
We were super pumped she did and just got to
know her. And at this point she hadn't had a
hit yet. You know, we were talking about in last
Friday's episode of Bobby Cast where she may break a
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record soon enough. Her song Somebody Like That has cracked
the top ten on the Country Airplay chart, which is
a big deal. It took her fifty eight weeks to
get there. Think about that. We talked to her in
like a hundred weeks agoin and so that this song
started forty I mean almost a year after we talked
to her like this is in the early early to
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Neil Arts time. But that set the record for the
longest climb to top ten for a solo female artist.
Who knows if she breaks the all time record, I
don't they keep going with this song. But I wanted
to play this interview for you guys in case you
missed it way back then, eighty episodes ago, because that's
a long time ago, A long time. That's over a
year on this feed that probably people are probably aren't
scrolling back that far to here. So here is Taniel Arts.
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I hope you take some time get to know her.
Remember this is before she had any success or any fame. Really,
she'd been on The Bachelor a couple of times, not
as a contestant, but as a performer. Um, so enjoy this.
This is Tenniel Arts from the house here on the
Bobby Cast. Here we go episode two or three with
tannil Arts. How are you hey? I'm good? How are
you good? All right? Pretty good? I was looking at
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your instagram. You have a lot of followers. Where did that?
What's the deal? Where'd that come from? I don't know.
I mean I've been on social media for a really
long time and on YouTube, and yeah, I've just been
like really trying to keep up the online presence. I
was doing a little deep dive about you and I
had seen that you were on The Bachelor twice, not
as a contestant, although that'd be a good story here,
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but you played to why how do you how do
you land getting on the Bachelor? To play? Well? My
manager had been sending my music into them for a
really long time and they just came across some of
my music that they loved. The first song was called
Moment of Weakness, and it pretty much sounded like we
had written it for the show. So it worked out
really well and I performed on one on one date?
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Could you remember who it was? Um? It was Ari
and Chelsea? Okay, so, Mike, do you know who Ari is?
I do? Okay, help me out. Good looking dude. I
think it's like kind of great here right? Oh yeah, okay,
So I got it. And that was the season. I
don't really watch the show. I don't hate people to do.
By the way, don't get mad at me. Bachelor Nation.
He's the one that was like he broke up with
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the girl at the end of the season. Yeah, he
makes someone and then broke up with her and then
picked the like second place girl. Like now that I
can admire anyone that kind of is not status quo
on that show. I like, okay, so you you played
for him and Chelsea? Did they stay together? Was it
your song? Was that the reason they didn't stay together? Don't?
I hope not? No, she left she had a kid,
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so she wanted she had a kid on the show,
not on the show. But I think she wanted to
get back to her her son, so I think she
ended up leaving the show. So tell me what that's
like them playing do you have played over and over
and over again for the cameras. Yeah, we play it
a few times. Not it's like definitely a surprise for
the girl. I think the bachelor knows that this is
going down because I think he has like a hand
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in picking the dates. But uh, the girl was completely
surprised when she walked in and we played the song
a couple of times for them to get their shots
and everything. But then we play it again multiple times,
and that makes sense so they can shoot you. Yeah,
they can get close ups and stuff. But it was
really awkward because nobody told me if I should look
at the cameras or not. So I just found myself
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staring at the couple dancing and making out, and it
was so awkward. I didn't not know what to do.
It was Yeah, that was that. But so let me
hear some of this moment of weakness and I'm gonna
imagine a couple of dancing right that is quite a
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bachelor song. Yeah, because you're based be begging them to
make out right there, you're playing that song, like, all right,
have your moment weakness, right, You're on camera, so we
can document it. Okay, So you go on the show
and I would imagine, because I've had some friends go
on that show and play, there's a nice pop with
your music to day after it airs. Oh yeah, so
that was pretty cool, right, that was really cool. That
had a huge part to do with my social media
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and just my music getting out there in general. So
but then you go back again. Yeah, So then they're like, hey,
you riveted our couple so much, we want you to
bring that back for another couple. Is that what happened
the next time? I don't know. They're just like they
became a fan of my music and they wanted to
help me out as a new artist. And I think
it's really cool and kind of unexpected to be a
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part of something like The Bachelor, Like you wouldn't think
that's a great way to promote your music, but it
kind of is. I mean, there's a lot of people
that watch that show and it's like the perfect age
for my music. So they asked me to come back.
So you go back and then you play for this
one was Colton and a Lease Okay. Now, if I
remember they're not together, you're over too. I just telling
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you your success right on this show is not good
for the couple stand together. I've played really early on
in the show, so I feel like, you know, you
never know what's going to happen at that point. So
Colton and Elie and what are they doing? Like, yeah,
it was in a big theater in l A. So
there was actually an audience there. Okay, so a little
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more natural way. So you're playing in a theater and
how does that And part of me for not knowing this,
how did they set that up? Do they fake like
they're walking in on a show or they're both big
Tannil Arts fans? Yeah, sometimes they do it like that,
not that they'd be faking it, but I'm gonna work.
I do a lot of TV two and we fake
a lot of stuff, not not originally, but in order
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to redo it again and again and again, we have
to sometimes go all right, let's shoot this again. Yeah,
So they walk in like, oh, yeah, we're big fans
of Tannil Arts. Let's go Is that what it? Yeah?
Basically that's what that's what happened. It was like a
surprise for the girl and everything, but she ended up
messaging me like right after that episode and was like,
I'm gonna remember that night forever. I love your music.
So she definitely like dove into my music after that,
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and so and then there you have it too. We
need one more that you gotta get on a successful
You gotta get on a couple of the stays together.
Right right now, you're the Clayton Kershaw of of the
Bachelor's just not working out for you so far. That's
pretty cool that they brought you back. And what song
did you do there? Well? It ended up being a
song called I Hate This, which was a breakup song
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which you predicted. What was I do? I like that
song this? I hate the song I've programmed into the
heart the women of by our country show. This is
a good one. Not that the other one wasn't. I
just had never heard it. I liked this one a lot.
When you hear your own music, you kind of bob
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your head and you still do you like listen to
your own music? I do, yeah, because when when we
played that, I felt like you kind of felt that
a little bit. Yeah. I immediately started thinking about when
I like wrote it and who it's about, And yeah,
I go there every time. So you wrote that. Okay, good,
it's a perfect segue into this. We have a lot
of songwriters that come on the show, which you are
obviously um and and they talk about songs. So let's
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talk about this song specifically. How long ago did you
write it? It would have been like a year and
a half ago. Oh still pretty fresh? Yeah, pretty new.
And it's funny because when I had originally written it,
I wasn't going through a breakup or anything like. I
was kind of imagining what that would be like and everything,
and then I went through a breakup and that song
it was so hard to go out and sing that
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song at every show. So a song that you didn't
write about your breakup ended up being hard to sing
because later on you went through a breakup. Yeah, that's
kind of Mike. We've never heard a story like that, right, Like,
they write a song and then it comes back into
their lives about their lives the breakup, and then it's
hard to think about that. But yeah, not the only way.
You're like Carly when she would come in, like yew,
I wrote every little thing, and you know, I would
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play and think about the breakup every time, but you
didn't break up with the song. It just came back
to haunt you later. It did. Interesting, So you write
this song and you did you write it about the
boyfriend you had at the time, and at least, like,
did you predict predicting the breakup? Aren't you? It wasn't
that far before we ended up breaking up, So I
think that I had a little bit of that in
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my mind. But I always try to like take from
personal experiences or try to imagine what it would be
like if I was going through that. Wrote You wrote
this with the guy name Adam Wheeler, So you guys
hop in a room together, and how does that work
with you? You go, hey, I got this idea, I'm
probably gonna break up with the dude, Like, how does
that work? I didn't say, yeah, no, it was. I
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had written a lot with him around that same like
time period, so we knew what was going on in
each other's lives and and he knew that things were
like a little bit rocky in my relationship, and he
had talked about some of his past relationships and we
really just kind of dove into it and the song.
It's weird because the song isn't really about like a breakup.
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It's about that time period right after you break up
where you don't know if you're going to end up
getting back together or if you're just going to actually
stay broken up. Because so I feel like there's a
little bit of hope during that time where you still
love that person and you still think maybe you know,
something might work out, but then you know eventually you
have to deal with the fact that okay, maybe it
really is over. Let's talk about that for a second
away from music. Like most times, let's still a little
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public service announcement. It doesn't work out. If you're gonna
break up, it doesn't work. I'll tell you from my experience,
you feel like you know I might work out, let's
give it another try. But I'm gonna say probably of
the time, if you break up and you're like, m,
maybe we should give it a try, because it could
it's not going yeah, because I think once you break up,
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you think that those those things will maybe like work
themselves out, and then when you get back together it'll
just be like a fresh start. But it's not. There's
still like all of those things that you all of
those issues. I guess that you had before. You know
what you should do. This is maybe a lesson for
you, you you little younger than I am, or anyone watching
this or listening to this. If you're struggling in your
relationship and you don't know really what to do to
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make it work. Have a baby. Oh my gosh, what
do you say? That's a go? I just have a baby.
Then you're stuck and you have to make it work. Problem. Yeah,
I would say, yeah, fixes fixes all the problems. You
don't agree with that, Um, why don't we do somebody
like that? Which is this is the single? Now it is? Okay?
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Here is somebody like that? All right? Tell me about
this one? All right? Well, I wrote this one after
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writing a ton of breakup songs. I was like, I'm done, Like,
I'm done writing these breakup songs. I want to start
looking for somebody again. I want to, you know, start
putting myself out there. So I got in the writing
room with Alex Klein and Allison Belts and we were
just kind of reflecting on relationships that we had seen
a really well, like looking at our parents, looking at
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our grandparents, you know, just kind of those relationships that
we idolized as kids and looked up to. And you know,
I have a lot of great relationships in my life,
and and I feel like we just looked back on,
you know, maybe love that we had or love that
went really well, love that went bad, and just kind
of looking for the right kind of love this time
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and not settling until we find it. And how long
would you write this song? This one would have been
about six months ago? And did you predict the future?
Much like you predicted the demise of the Bachelor? You'd
make this song? And did somebody like that come along
predicted the future? What you need to do? You need
to write more song predicting, predicting future songs. Yeah, my
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therapist says, you got to like see the good stuff,
But then I do and it never happens, so then
I start seeing the bad stuff again. You have an accent,
which is interesting, not so much of a Canadian one
a little bit. I dated a Canadian girl for a
long time, so I'm very experienced with the Canadian talk.
And your your your little hybrid English French a type language.
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But it's a little country accent too. Yeah, So what like,
what tell me about like a town you grew up in?
I grew up in a really small town in Saskatchewan
in Canada, and my dad's a wheat farmer, so we
grew up like in the small town. But then we
also had the family farm, so I spent a lot
of time out there. And because a wheat farmer, huh,
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what is that entail day to day? I mean, for
us being in Canada, there's like a very short sound
like a week right where it's warm enough to grow anything. Yeah,
I mean it pretty much starts like end of May June,
and harvest time is lake September October. So is it
vacat is it like snow vacation? They're all the rest
of the year as a wheat farmer. Well, my dad
had another job that he worked that whole time as well. Um,
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but yeah, I guess for most people or they've got
like cattle or something, but we don't we eat farmer
in Canada. I didn't think about that. Like when I
flow to Toronto Wish by the way, I don't know
what's in the water up there, but you guys are
way too nice and I enjoy it. I enjoy it.
But even with my ex girlfriends, she's way too nice.
And now we'll be like, why are you being so
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nice to me all the time? But it was just
a natural. It was just like in you guys blood.
And I didn't really realize that until I went to
Toronto and people would just like stop on the road
and talk to me. And this is Toronto, to which
is very metropolitan by the way, It really close to
New York, and you would think would be a little
different than than you know, Saskatchewan or um Vancouver or
a lot of these other places that I was feeling with.
But people were just like, hey, sir, and I'll be like,
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what's up? Would you like a dollar? Not asking for
the homeless. People were offering me money in Canada. It
was so different than here in the States. Were like,
gonna get a dollar? They were like, so I don't
how much, but why don't you have my last dollar?
Canadians are nuts, man, It's awesome. So um. It was
my point with all that might really nice. Yeah, I
feel like I was onto something there, but so your dad,
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oh but but oh my point is I'll flying in
and I would see golf courses in Canada and I
was like, what week do you get to play golf here?
It's so cold all the time. And so you're do
you have tractors? Yeah? Okay? And how big was his
wheat farm? Um? People always ask me this, and I
always forget to ask him how big it is. But
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I mean, we've got a lot of land. Do we
need to call your dad? And ask? Might have to
because we have a phone connected right there, we can
call your dad. We want to get your dad on
the phone. I'll call him, okay, Nil, don't press me. Hey, Mike,
can you call her dad? Okay, We're gonna call her
dad and see if he'll even just answer the phone.
All right? Does he what's he doing? Is he? Is he?
What is today? Today's Yeah, they're trying to harvest right now,
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but it just snows. Get interrupted by a phone call
and his daughter? Has your dad ever been an interview before? No? Okay,
it's first. Is it gonna be nervous? Yeah, we're gonna
plug the phone up something. We have this phone here
to Neil, and so sometimes we'll do phone interviews if
people are in Los Angeles. Are you freaked out about
your dad being on Well, I'm just like, he never
answers this phone. So we might go through all of
this or nothing. That's all right. I didn't say we
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didn't try, right, Mike, And this might this phone rings
all that I'll be because this is in my house, which,
by the way, if you're a dog barking and you're
listening to this is because my have a bulldog puppy
kind of put him away for this interview, but I
can hear them barking down. Do you hear them barking? No? No,
he does this some time. Are you's so cute? All
he does? Um? And so this this phone as soon
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as we bought the line to start calling people, it rings.
It'll be one o'clock in the morning. Oh, is it
just like random? It's like people trying to sell me stuff.
I thought it'd be like Janet Kramer, who we call
on it and they're like, what up? No, it's it's
some people trying to sell me stuff. All right, you
wanted to show you the number off the camera? All right,
let's see, by the way, everyone listening right now as
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we as we look at this followed to Neil on Instagram,
t E N I L L E Arts to Neil Arts.
That is her name? There? Do I have a dial tone? Mike?
We do all right, let's see if we and what
is his name? Well, Kevin, know that an unnamed Nashville
phone number is probably specific to you, maybe, okay, because
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I never would answer a call if I didn't know
who it was. Yeah, I mean, well, he's just like,
he'll leave his phone. Does he have any idea who
Bobby Bones is at all? I just I was just
talking to him last night and I was like, I'm
doing this this show. Okay, I don't hear anything, but
you have reached Okay, text him and say, hey, we're
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trying to call you. Can you answer the call here? Okay?
All right, um, let me read you a little bit
about tanil lest she does this here. Let's see she
won five of the Saskatchewan Country Music Association Awards for
All which you were nominated. Okay, might you still have
his number? I don't. Okay, he needs a phone again.
What we're doing is really hacking your phone? Does what's
the trick we do with everyone? So maybe he'll see that.
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All right, we're gonna keep going, Mike, I guess we
have to here at huh. Yeah, okay, that's all right,
We're good. So tell me you're on revival Records, How
long you've been how'd you get that? That deal about
a year and a half ago, and so how did
they get onto you to sign you? It was actually
it had a lot to do with The Bachelor. I
performed on the first time I've performed it was, yeah,
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completely without a label. And we were having like a
viewing party for the episode here in Nashville, and we
had Gator from Revivor Records come out to the show
because I played like a little set before the episode aired,
and it was pretty instant, like I met with him
and the whole team, and I was just like, this
feels like a perfect place for me. Were good for you? Yeah? Wow?
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And so then you become a millionaire soon as you
get signed. Yeah, of course that's that's that's how it works, right,
and you're just loaded. Yeah, Mike, if we don't get
him this time, we'll just give it a rest for
a bit. Yeah, Okay, that's all right, We're still gonna
get him. He's gonna text he maybe listen, well he
listened to this, Yeah, oh yeah, he he loves to
listen to it like all the home and I'll hear
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him watching and listening to my YouTube videos. I'm like,
dadham right here, super supportive dad. Yeah. So what about
your mom? They still together? Yeah? Okay, and what does
she do? She used to work as a lab tech
in the hospital, but she is was a stay at
home mom from my entire life a lab tech like needles,
you know. I had a cousin once who was training
to be a lab tech and she said, Hey, I
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need to borrow you for needle practice. And I was like,
first of all, it's not gonna happen. I don't do
needles very well. That she was like, I need to
do needles in your knuckles because apparently they have to
learn if they can't get it from your arm, they
have to draw it from your knuckles. And so I
don't do I didn't let her do it, obviously, but
I didn't know you could draw needle from knuckles either.
Did your mom draw black from people? She did? Yeah,
if you were sick, could she help you, like giving
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you I V S or medicine. She never did any
of that stuff, but I mean she had medical knowledge,
so she I mean, she would help us out as
much as she could. All Right, So you moved to
the States when four years ago you've only been here
four years. So okay, so do you do the whole
Canada thing first, where you're you know, you like, I'm
gonna be a star in Canada? Not really. I mean
I was a little bit involved in like the Canadian
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country music industry up there, um, and they had a
really cool program that I was a part of that
was like the Discovery program where they help you out,
give you the connections and everything. But I always knew
that I wanted to be in Nashville. I made my
first trip. It was it's almost exactly ten years ago
when I first came here to you know, write and
get involved in everything. So I always had my site
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set on Nashville, and so I didn't spend a ton
of time focusing on on the Canadian scene. So what
was it for you that made you go I gotta
move down there. I think I had just seen so
many people. It's just such a community, like Canada is
so spread out. I wish they had a place that
everybody could go and write with each other because there's
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really there's nothing. I mean, it's everybody's so spread out.
So I knew that Nashville was just such a community.
I knew that some of my favorite songwriters, some of
my favorite artists. That's what they did. They once they could,
they moved to Nashville and they made their connections and
they just started building it from the ground up. And
that's what I wanted to do. So you tell your
parents what. Well, the first time I actually came down,
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I was fourteen or fifteen, and I had just been
putting up YouTube videos and stuff and a manager called
our house and he was like, Hey, I want to
bring you to Nashville and I want to see if
you know you work well with this girl, because he
was proposing me to be in this duo. So what
you got? Justin Bieber a little bit, They see you
in a little bit as a kid, someone says you
on YouTube and says, let's do it that. I bet
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that would be creepy to me that I'll be like, really,
what's happening here? Yeah? I mean, oh, my dad was
super skeptical about it. My mom was excited because I
was excited, but yeah, it was definitely kind of like
a well, let's just go see what happens, Like let's
me say about it, but yeah, let's go see what happens.
And it was so They always knew that that's where
I wanted to go, so they were supportive of it.
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And when I moved, they were like, oh yeah, go
for it. So what happened with that duo? It just
didn't work out. Our music ideas were so different and
it was kind of like a Maddie and Tae thing before,
like pretty much right before Maddie and te So, well,
who was the girl? Is she around? Um? I think
she's still say it? We thought so, she's still in town.
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I don't think so. I think she went to college somewhere.
Has hated each other. Huh. We didn't get along. Oh,
I was just kidding, but yeah, we didn't get along. Oh,
Mike and I don't get along. Yeah, we just kind
of stare and okay, so you come and you go. Okay,
well Nashville will want to be so you go back home.
Did you finish school? I did? I finished high school? Okay,
and then you go. As soon as I'm done, I'm
out of here. And so when did you actually pack
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up and moved down. I stayed for just like a
couple of years, just saving up. I still lived with
my parents and everything. And yeah, I was twenty one
when I moved down the first time I had ever
lived on my own, got a one bedroom apartment, the
whole thing. Who moved with you? My mom in a
What tell me the story? You get int the U
haul with the trailer. We we did the drive twice.
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The first time we took her car and just loaded
it up and drove as much as we could down
just to get moved in, and then I ended up
driving back again. I can't really remember why that happened,
but I took I have like a little yellow Pontiac
G five from when I was like sixteen, and we
loaded that thing up and I still have that car.
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We drove it all the way down here, and my
mom stayed for about a week to just get me settled,
and then she hopped on a plane and left me
by myself. What's the drive? Full? Twenty five hours of
driving still took us about two days. Do you still
have that car? At least? Do you still drive that car?
With this millionaire record deal, you should have like Mercedes?
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You know, talk about that for a second, because that
is a quite the misconception because you signed a record
and listen, when I signed my record deal, I actually
think I went in the hole. I think I lost money.
And people think when you sign a deal that it's
just like a whole bunch of money given to you.
Um you're a bit different than I am. You're better
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tell me what happens when you sign a deal. Well,
for me, my deal was pretty unique because my publisher, Um,
so I had been living off of, you know, being
a songwriter and sign a publishing deal first, and about
halfway through that first year, my publisher was like, we
should record this stuff on you. He knew that I
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wanted to be an artist, and so he really started
just helping me out with all of that stuff, which
was really really cool, and I ended up signing kind
of he created a label, I guess for me to
release music, and so when I ended up signing with
Reviver like that, all still kind of stayed together. So
not much really changed for me other than having you know,
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all of the label and everything. But yeah, I know,
it's not like you're just like handed a bunch of
money and like, yeah, you're as signed artist now. Mostly
they go, we're gonna pay for you to do things,
and even then you got to pay us back. Yeah,
that's really unless you're a major artist switching labels and
they're trying to woo you. They're going, Okay, we're now
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going to pay for you to make a record, and
we're gonna pay for you to travel and do what
they call radio tour, but you will pay us back
or we would drop you. One of the two things
will happen. And so it sounds sounds amazing, doesn't it.
But it is cool to actually get a deal because
they're actually supporting you to go out and try all
this stuff. It is and I mean without that, it
would be really really hard to to do all of
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those things if you didn't have that support. Would you
put on YouTube? What song like the one that I had,
the one that There's Always There's Always a video? It
was fifteen by Taylor Swift and I was fifteen singing it.
So that's what got me here. And when they called,
they asked for you, how why how do they get
your number? That's the whole thing that I still have
(24:53):
not figured out. I don't know how they found me,
but I mean I'm glad that they did because I
learned a lot from it. But um, yeah, they literally
just were like, hey is to kneel there and to
answered the phone and talk to them for a little while,
and yeah, it was weird, grand old opry debut just happened. Amazing,
Oh my gosh. I still can't even believe that it happened.
(25:15):
Like it was just one of those moments where you're like,
it feels like a pad on the back from the
country music industry, you know, just everybody here being like
you deserve to be on that stage and make your debut.
So I think that's what meant so much to me.
And I had a ton of family and friends, everybody
in town for it, so it was just a really
big deal and it made me feel very special. Yeah,
(25:36):
so the the opera the first time is like a
your eyes wide open thing. You'll like the second through
the ninth or tenth time because you actually can take
it in. There's just a lot of people there in
the first one. The first time that I played it,
I was like, holy crap. And I do comedy a
little bit of music, right, so it's not definitely not
the same like you're a legitimate artist. I'm a joke,
(25:56):
so you it's just so many people like oh my goodness,
oh my goodness, that it's really hard to take it in. Yeah,
I feel like that would be what a wedding is like.
Even it's like the build up is like so crazy,
and then it's like over in a second, and you're like, oh,
it is quick. But I will say, I don't know
if you're playing it at anytime soon, but you you
(26:18):
actually enjoy the operay experience from now on more. Yeah, yeah,
because you look. And for me, I struggle with even
seeing anyone in the audience because I was just like,
oh my god, this is crazy. I'm up here playing
them in the circle. Um, and so I really didn't
see the people out there. From now, I walk out
there and it's it goes much slower. Yeah, that's good.
(26:39):
It's you can take it in. You can actually breathe
and talk in between segments if you want to. There's
not the pressure of all your family being there. Good pressure,
but there's still a lot of pressure there with everybody watching. Yeah,
it definitely was like a little bit of pressure. But
I tried to. When I walked out there, I was like,
for whatever reason, I wanted to like watch my foot
step into the circle. So I made sure to just
(26:59):
like take them moment to like see that moment. That's cool.
Are you that kind of person? Are you take a
moment person? Yeah? I try to be, especially with those
like really big moments. Otherwise it just gets away from
you sometimes, right, Top three Big moments in your life. Okay,
let's let's let's walk backward on this. I know I've
(27:20):
given you a second on this one. You're twenty five
years old. Top three Big Moments of your life at
number three, at number three, at number three in America,
we go backward to one. It's like a big build up.
Can I still use the operation? Of course? Yeah? Nothing?
Number three? Number three? Uh? Performing on The Bachelor? Okay?
Which one or two? Two? Because it was it was
(27:44):
just bigger and more people are like that. So that's
number three. Life moment, number two life momentum performing the
Canadian national anthem at the NBA Finals recently. Yeah, that's
pretty cool. It was a big one. It was something
that literally when I it I started working with my manager,
I was like, the one thing I do not want
to do is sing any anthems. I am terrified. And
(28:08):
that was when I got the call for that. Obviously,
I was excited and wanted to take that that opportunity
and take that risk. But it was the most terrifying
moment of my entire life so far. Uh what did
you sing with any a band or totally? But yeah,
So was there any sort of echo back on top
of you? Yes, because that was tough. There was a
(28:32):
lot of people and just you're kind of trying to
keep my note in my head walking out to the
spot where I'm supposed to sing. I was so worried
about that. And then they have all these rules about
like you have to take a hard left to like
walk off so that you don't get hit by the
flag that's coming out for the American anthem. And there
were just so many things to think about. So I
(28:53):
explain how we're gonna get to number one in a second,
but explain how you're holding your note all the stuffs
happening around you. What are you doing inside your head?
If you watch back any of the clips, I'm literally
just like, um like singing it in my head constantly.
But you got it? Yeah, And the thing, well, I
don't know about the Canadian anthem, but the American anthem,
if you start a little higher than you're supposed to,
(29:13):
you're done. Oh yeah, what what's the Canadian anthem? Like
it's not difficult to to sing, like the range isn't
as crazy as the American anthem. But I think for me,
I overthink anthem so much. I'll go over the lyrics
in my head a hundred times. There's almost a no win. No,
there isn't way because it's number two on your list,
(29:34):
so that's a win. However, in the grand scheme of
doing the anthem, if you go out and you nail
the anthem, you were supposed to nail the anthem, life
just moves on. If you screw up the anthem any anthem,
life does not move on. People get piste. So it's
a lot of pressure where if you nail it, you
were supposed to thank you go about your day. But
(29:56):
if you don't, holy crap. I mean I actually ended
up getting a lot of criticism. Why because I changed
it up a little bit. But we took it. You
made it your own. It's not American idols. But okay,
Like the anthem is like oh Canada, and I went,
oh Canada, probably wouldn't done that for me. I just
(30:17):
got Robert Gooley and watched him and done that. Well,
oh Goda, but that's not me. So I went out
there and I did it the way that you know
Robert Gouley is he's I think he's. I think he's Canadian.
Do you know he is? I do know he is. Yeah.
I saw him saying that the the Canadian WrestleMania once and
for some reason, he's stuck in my head. You see
if Robert Gooley is Canadian, because if he's not, I
(30:39):
feel I could do. Okay, good for you. That's a
number two singing the Canadian national anthem at the NBA finals.
And who was the game? What was the game? It
was Toronto and it was the last one gold State. Yeah,
it wasn't the last but they were, yeah they were. Yes,
it was in the finals. It wasn't Okay, I don't
know sports, but yes, that's what happened. Okay, So but
(30:59):
who won the game? Ah, don't say Golden State because
if you do, this may be the cursive to Neil.
You don't know. We'll go with Toronto then and Kauai
A big game as a whole thing. Yeah, it's a
big yeah. Um, Mike. He is of Canadian descent, boom
from where well he was born in the US, but
(31:19):
ancestry is in Canadian Canadians, Canadian. Who's the most famous
person you're growing up in Canada? The most famous person
to me? Okay, because she was from Canada and also
massive and probably the most famous everybody period in North America. Okay,
so Shania Twain, who anybody else? Because we're I'm on
(31:39):
the radio and saskatchwe is that a town or a province? Okay?
So dumb, forgive me, because here's what happened. I love
the people in Canada. Can't get enough of them. That
being said, I was thrown into so many places at
once that they're like, you're in all that and I'm
trying to learn as fast as I can. I'm a
big Ottawa said Hitters fan, although they suck, so I
(32:03):
wear the hat proudly. But that may be the worst
run hockey organization in the NHL. Are you a hockey
fan a little bit? Okay? Who's your team? Well? I'm
I just hop on the bandwagon of wherever I am.
So freds, Oh, you don't have like a Canadian team?
I don't. You didn't did your dad like watch a team?
I mean like we grew up as a family. My
(32:25):
brother played, so I mean the most hockey I watched
was him playing and I also played for a year,
just saying but yeah, um played hockey. Yet you don't
have like a team that you watched. Okay, so you're
a Preds fan. Yeah, I like to actually go to games.
Watching sports on TV just does nothing for me. And
you played hockey. Also a dancer and you answered that confidently.
(32:49):
So you were a good dancer. I mean I was competitive,
especially with like tap dancing. That was kind of my thing. Um,
but my little sister is amazing, and so I once
I decided that I wasn't going to be a dancer,
she really she like ran with it. She loves dancing
and she still does that to this day. How many
years did you dance? From the time I was like
(33:10):
three to eighteen? Oh a long time. Did you ever
winny championships? I? Well, like I went to competitions all around, um,
like the provinces boarding mine and a few in the States. Trophies,
I want some stuff crap because I want a trophy dance,
and I like to brag about it a little bit.
I danced for four months and well, yeah, there you go.
(33:32):
That's right, And that's a pretty big trophy, that's right.
That's right. So probably imagine if I danced for fifteen years,
all the trophies I would have. Um, Okay, so you're
in Canada, you moved to the States. You've been here
for as of today, like four years. That's it. Huh,
Well you're just a baby and yeah, actual and you
(33:52):
have a record deal and you've got music that's already.
That's good for you. Thank you. Kind of popping a
little bit. Well, I just decided. I was like, if
I'm gonna be away from everybody, because like I moved
here not knowing anybody, my entire families back in Canada.
I was like, if I'm gonna move here, I'm gonna
put my head down to make sure that this time
is worth it, and my time away from my family
and my grandparents everything I needed to make it feel
(34:13):
like it was worthwhile. Is it frustrating to not find
a key chain with your name on it? Yes, because
I don't know. I never met a Tannil until I
met the other one, and I was like huh and
then I heard and I was like, there's another. So
Tennil Towns is a friend and she opened for me
for a lot of tour for a lot of my
comedy tour last year, and then I was like they
(34:34):
were like ten Neil Arts and I was like, no,
you're saying it wrong. It's aid Town, not Art. And
they're like, no, there's another Tannil And I was like,
well how about that. That's kind of weird. What is she?
You know? What were she from? Like from Canada too?
Same age? That's confusing, isn't that crazy? Did you guys
know each other? Oh? You did from like a tenail
(34:55):
chat room where you guys everybody Toil would get in
and talk with each other. Actually, the first time I
met her, she had one of her good friends with
her and her name was also Tanil. So what's what's happening?
Is there something Canada where they name him after Captain Intanil?
Is big? Big thing? Mike is Tanil Canadian? From Captain Intanil?
I don't know you looked at up. I know that
she was born in like Montgomery, Alabama or something. So
(35:17):
you know this already because I thought that was weird
because I grew up on Montgomery Crescent. She was from Montgomery, Alabama.
Does that have anything to do with your name? Well,
my parents named me after after Captain They loved the name,
but they also gave me two middle names just in case.
Captain Intanil what sinking songs like muskrat Love. I don't
(35:38):
know how I know that. Did Kevin hit his back
on the text? Not yet, They're apparently they're not Canadian.
You're going to lose. Um, okay, so let's do we
do this sometimes your Mount Rushmore of artists. Okay, you
get four, However I allow five because everyone always goes,
let me add one more. I'm gonna give you five,
(35:59):
but you can't go let me add one more. We're
already doing that plus one. So okay, five artists on
your Mount Rushmore. Who is your first artist? Are they?
Doesn't matter the genre, it can be any genre first artist,
Like this is no order? Well, okay, you don't have
to rank them, but you can if you want. Are
you saying right now? No order? No order? Because they'll
(36:20):
probably come to me as as we do this. Um. Well,
I grew up listening to Paul Simon, so I'm a
huge fan of his songwriting and everything. Um yeah, the
whole record, the whole record. Okay, go ahead, um oh man,
this is already hard and I'm only one person in. Um,
(36:43):
Shania Twain has to be in there. Ah, I know
I'm going to do this and forget somebody and be
really sad. Um Keith Urban, Kelly Clarkson. And you got
one here that counts. It's not a bonus that you
(37:03):
get five so so far? Why you're thinking we have
Paul Simon, Shania Twain, Keith Urban, Kelly Clarkson, Oh my gosh,
can I call a friend? Um? I don't know. That's
a hard one. There's so many good artists like I
feel like, but if you pick nobody, then you get nothing. Yeah,
you're not balance to this contractually, you know. If you
(37:25):
leave this house and decide, you can just see me
overthinking everything right now. I'm like, wait, do I okay,
pull up a playlist on your phone? What do you Spotify,
Apple Music whatever you have? Pull it up? Okay, and
we will. Let's look at the last song? Great, yes,
love it? Okay? No, no, no, let's look at the playlist.
(37:46):
I don't really have playlists. You'll have like liked songs
like the last songs you liked. I don't do that.
Let me see your let see your playlist here? Like,
I'm kind of all over the place. Well, you should
be musically, but how do you find stuff? Chase albums?
I just like I look up the album like this
is my You have the last songs you played yours?
Yours was warming up in the car on the way here.
Your song, which is interesting. You brought a guitar. We've
(38:09):
never had anyone bring a guitar. You never know when
you're gonna need to break out in a song. That's true,
So to your last song, as I hate this. Do
you have a list of stuff you played recently? I
don't know how to get library. I got you. Technology
is hard for me. Oh check it out. A lot
of chumba wamba. You're a big fan and I'm just um,
Carrie Underwood, Casey musk Graves. Who's Paul Sykes. He's a
(38:33):
friend of mine. He used to play guitar for me.
Shout out, Paul Sykes. I'm really going through your stuff.
This is this is some stuff here. Um. You have
a lot of some artists named tennial arts a lot. Wow,
are you in the fan club? Who's Twin Kennedy? They're
also friends of mine. Okay, so we get a lot
of shout outs here, and that's all you have, all
your songs, you listen to yourself and your friends. I
(38:53):
like that. Well, I gotta download my own stuff and
make sure that like nothing's wrong with it, you know,
when it goes out there? All right, Um, well, why
don't we let's let's I'm not gonna ask you like
really sing or anything, but let's grab this guitar, Mike.
Let's see what's happened over here. If we can get
Kevin to call us back. Kevin's big time and it's
right now. Do you know, let's play a game while
he's doing that. Okay? Canadian or not Canadian? Are you ready?
(39:17):
I'll give you, I'll give you a celebt. You tell
me if they're Canadian or not. Jake Jillen Hall not
okay correct, Ryan Reynolds Canadian? Right, Hayley Bieber not correct?
James Franco not, Ryan Gosling Canadian? Yeah, Ann Hathaway not not.
(39:40):
Does the Canadians have dominate any interview? You ever? Do? Are?
They always tell me about Canada a little bit? But yeah?
What about the double to Neils? Does it happen a lot?
Do you ever think if it doesn't work, you too
can form a group? Maybe and just be called Tenniel
took at this. What kind of guitar we have here?
This is a PRS acoustic. So what we're gonna to
do here, because we're gonna play very light I have
(40:02):
We've never done this before. So let's see what it
sounds like. Well, let me make sure. I like to
go no tuning. Yeah, we like to go out of tune.
It's kind of our style here on the show. Okay, Mike,
you wanna see how this sounds. You have to check
it out. Okay, Um, you want her to back away
from Mike just a little bit, maybe just a little bit. Okay,
(40:24):
it's the opposite what we just did. We have Now
we're gonna have you moved back just a little bit,
all right, So um, play me a little bit of
I Hate this because that's the one you had up
on your phone. Okay, and then we're going to the
Canadian national anthem. I'm just kidding. I was like, no,
maybe not all right. For the first time on this podcast,
someone's gonna play. We'll do a little bit of I
hate this. Go ahead, you let me just do like
(40:45):
verst course Yeah, okay, I hate this. Here I am
running into you China. I hate this excellent. I it's
not killing me when it now? Watch the game still
(41:07):
looks good on you. Don't you think it's time we
in this little lips bement because I know we said
we just be friends. I can by care pretson boy,
(41:29):
I shouting bottom. I still love you and that's good.
Thank you. Look at that, it's good, thank you. Well
(41:49):
look okay, well, let me can put the mic, put
the guitar down. That's good. How does sound? Do we know?
I found pretty good? Popped or anything? Okay, Well, if
you have it, you want to do a little bit
your new song, then sure. I mean, if that's the
new single, let's it's her somebody like that. I've seen
pick up lines and dye bar stranger slow dance. I've
(42:13):
seen Happy Hour two for once turned one nice dance.
I've seen on rather lay night, drunk dies. I've seen
that sent to rether, fairy tale, go up in cigarettes smoke.
I've seen two hearts beat it all and still end
(42:35):
up bron Your thing won't be easy, yeah, my tay wise,
but I want that all. I keep the fire burning
like the first time feeling, no matter what, if I'm
gonna I'm gonna love somebody forever. Take it back. I'm
(43:11):
gonna somebody like, holy crap, man, it's really good. You're
like two ft tall Mongus boys. Thank you, Michael. Take
your guitar from you. He'll be sure to drop it.
There it is. Let's check one more time for Kevin.
I would love to have had him on the show. Kevin,
did he respond to your text? No? Mm hmmm. He
(43:35):
probably likes your brother and sister better. Huh. I bet
if they texted, he probably would have been like he
literally just never has his phone on him. So what's
the story with your brothers and sisters? You have one?
You have to total one each. I have two sisters
and a brother. Okay, and you are in the mix?
What what what level? Second youngest? Okay? And your oldest
is Brittany? Okay, what's Brittany do music at all? It's
(43:58):
not really no. She her husband was in the military
in Canada. They moved around a lot, and now they're
back in Saskatchewan starting their own company. So they're they're
working on stuff there. It's a drone company. Oh that's cool.
My coat husband has a drone company. He was in
the military too. Yeah, and now they apparently all fly
drones and looking our windows and who knows everything about
(44:18):
our lives? And then your brother is older than you,
and what does he do? He went to school, um
for finance stuff, but he's also been working at the
farm as well, so he's We're all just kind of
all over the place doing our own thing. And your
youngest sister is a hockey plant dancer? Is that true?
She just dances? Now? Okay, are they very proud of you? Yeah?
(44:38):
They like keeping up. Are they super excited? Yeah, they
keep up. And my little sister and I talked like
really often. But um so since we're both kind of
very I guess you know, we like hair and makeup
and photos and and doing all of the fun stuff.
My older two siblings felt like they were not in
the group or whatever of us performing sisters. So they
(45:01):
created their own Instagram called like the other two Siblings
or something, and they recreate our photos on the farm.
It is hilarious. Yeah, it's it's pretty funny. So they
they're all supportive and yeah, so parents, four kids, Any
animals growing up? Yeah, we had a dog, a dog, yeah,
just one. Okay, No cows, No, no cows. What kind
(45:25):
of animals are on farms in Canada. We had just
like a lot of straight cats, like farm cats just
running around. All right, Mike, anything for Tanil. We're about
about to wrap this up. I was just amazing good
that was That was awesome. Yeah, that was really good.
What's cool? As we could hear everybody saying I hear
about on the show or out, it's really good. I
don't know that. I was not expecting it to be,
(45:47):
but it's really good. And we've never done that before. Yeah,
you gotta brought your guitar and a ball or move.
It's like, I just have my guitar. If you need it,
let me. That's it's cool. I like that. Here's so.
I work on American Idol and I mentor a lot
of these these kids. A lot of the kids need
more of the music mentorship. A lot of the older
people kind of need the kind of the life how
to go to the reality show. But I tell them,
and I think you could probably speak on this too.
(46:08):
If someone asked you to play, just freaking play, Yeah
that's it. If someone's like, hey do you play, don't
take a thing and be like, well, I'm not really
right now, and you know, let me think it, go like,
play your freaking song always because you never know who's listening.
Who may that person is not going to get your
record deal, but they may hear you and go, oh
this person you should you should hear that. That's the thing.
(46:30):
You never know when you're going to be discovered. And
I think the more you play, the more you get
out there, the more chances there are. You know, you
can't just sit in your bedroom and sing songs all
the time and think that you're going to get somewhere.
Here's my my neighbor overheard me singing in my backyard
and recommend me to get in vocal training. Is that
familiar at all? Because it didn't happen to me. It
happened to me. So you're singing and just doing How
(46:53):
old are you? Oh my gosh, I was probably like seven.
And your neighbor hears something in your voice and says,
how you should go and learn to sing the real way. Yeah,
she came over because I was always just like belting
out and I ha Twain songs or like whatever I
was listening to or making songs up belt him out
in my backyard and my neighbor just came over and
(47:13):
she's told my mom, She's like, I think she has
a great voice. I think you should try to, you know,
take her somewhere, see if she can do something with it.
And of course I loved that my first voice lesson.
I was so pumped and just so excited that, like
that's what made it feel real to me at eight
years old, seven or eight whatever it was, I was like,
that's going to be my career. I'm going to do this.
(47:33):
Where did you start singing as a kid? Publicly, I
did like a couple of little like local festivals and
things like that. But also because I was doing classically
um trained music, I also performed in like the music
festivals and stuff, and you would sing what kind of
song is a classical trained performer? There was like a
(47:55):
book songs out of Okay, Um, you have another record
coming on the next year. Yeah, yeah, we we know
when it'll be early, and people listen to these things forever,
so it may already be out when this thing is.
You may be hearing the Tinnil Arts podcast because we've
done a lot of these mike where people have at
early stages they've got a blown up and you can
(48:15):
go back and hear them, because this is episode two
hundred and three, So early on we had some artists
on in the early stages too, and they were like,
I don't know, We're just trying to get something going.
And you go back now and you're like, holy crap,
Like now they're they're big deals. So hopefully, uh, this
this is what happens here. Okay, Well, listen, we've I
think we've said everything that that we need to say.
(48:36):
You feel like you learn a little bit about you, Yeah, Kevin,
Kevin will not call us back if you're listening right now, Kevin,
we tried. Before we wrap it up, we're gonna we're
gonna give it one more look, not yet. I'm gonna
ask you a few random questions here and then we'll
call this a day. What's the last concert you bought
tickets for? I bought tickets for Casey Musgraves and I
didn't get to go. Which show? It was the one
(48:58):
at the Rhyman the Gold Now our tour I did. Yeah,
I'm really jealous. Yeah you should be. It's it's great. Yeah.
Why did you not get to go? I had a
show come up? Great reason to not go? Exactly how
about that good? Okay, So question number two, what's the
last movie you saw in theaters? In theaters? Um, I
think it was that last show, um, last movie of
(49:21):
the Avengers or whatever that. Yeah, in game it was good. Huh,
it was long. Yeah. Well, here's the thing, I didn't
watch any of the other ones, because there were like three.
I saw most of them, but there were only three
or four that I didn't see, and I felt a
little out of it at times. I can only imagine
(49:42):
what you felt. No, it's knowing. I was very out
of it. Well, actually, I think I saw the Captain
Marvel won the Girl. Um. Maybe, yeah, I saw that
one before. But also at the end of that, I
did not know that this was like a big thing
that was going to be coming to an end, and
everybody was sitting in the theater like waiting to see
whatever they show at the end of those movies. I
(50:03):
had no clue. I was completely in the dark that
this was a whole series of things. And that's the
last movie you saw. Okay, are you on the road
a lot? Now? Every weekend? You're going out? This weekend,
I am, I'm leaving tomorrow. Where do you go? I'm
going to Deadwood, South Dakota. Wow, Yeah, it's a trip. Yeah,
you're driving the Pontiac, but I don't even think it
(50:28):
would make it there. One final question, what is your
hobby and why do you do it? My hobby? Um,
it cannot be something you make money at, so don't
say music. What is your hobby and why do you
do it? Man? It's a lot of my things have
to do with music, But like this, one thing that
I started doing is like painting on the back of
(50:51):
jean jackets. So that's kind of like a hobby thing
that has become something that I think. That's a wonderful answer. Um,
you're in a jacket now. That is Arry painty, but
you didn't paint this one. Okay, let's check one more
time for Kevin. This is her dad. Three. Okay, we'll
talk to you. We'll do a whole podcast with him,
(51:13):
Mike at some point. Listen to Neil. It's been I
didn't know you on the way. Had we ever met?
I don't feel like we've ever met. Um, it's it's
been nice to get to know you. Thank you. Nice
to get to know you too. I feel like big
things are ahead. Thank you. Do you feel like I'm
talking about for me, But do you feel like that,
you feel like they're also ahead for you. Yeah, Okay,
I'm excited. I feel like this is a time where
I just I've been through so much in the past
(51:34):
year that i feel like my music has just changed
so much and I'm just excited for everything that's coming
with it. All Right, Tanil Arts T E N I
L L. E. Arts. I've bet you. People ask all
the time if that's your real last name. It is
Kevin Arts, one of my favorite wheat farmers in Canada,
so it's a guy. Um. All right, Well, there we
have it, Mike, I believe that I'll wrap us up
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episode two oh three with Tenille Arts. It's a solid interview,
maybe the longest you've ever done it was, but it
was great. Yeah, as you walk out the house, and
I always wonder if it's weird because this we'd normally
do this earlier in the daytime, but because of my schedule,
so weird this week we actually did this one at night.
It's fully dark right now. Yeah, I'd always think it'd
be weird going to somebody's house for a show, like
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someone's like coming to the come to the house. We're
gonna do a show like this gotta be a little weird, right,
I mean not really. I was like, I'm coming here
with my manager. I don't know, it doesn't matter to me, great,
I wouldn't. I just just think, like going to somebody's house,
this is a trick. But you can rest assured it
is not a trick. All right. But we didn't record
any of this is just for me. We're just saving
it all right, tonil Arts, I'm gonna talk to everybody.
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Check out her music. Her new single as of right now,
this recording. The song is called Somebody Like That. Um,
I really like the song. I hate this. I put
it on the National Female Show a couple of times.
I'll tell you what, I'll do it again because I
I felt like the performance was fantastic and I think
that's it. All right to the Arts, thank you,
Hey guys, a special bring It All Back episode from
So This Is to Neil Arts. She came by the house.
She brought her guitar, which people don't normally do for this.
We were super pumped she did and just got to
know her. And at this point she hadn't had a
hit yet. You know, we were talking about in last
Friday's episode of Bobby Cast where she may break a
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record soon enough. Her song Somebody Like That has cracked
the top ten on the Country Airplay chart, which is
a big deal. It took her fifty eight weeks to
get there. Think about that. We talked to her in
like a hundred weeks agoin and so that this song
started forty I mean almost a year after we talked
to her like this is in the early early to
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Neil Arts time. But that set the record for the
longest climb to top ten for a solo female artist.
Who knows if she breaks the all time record, I
don't they keep going with this song. But I wanted
to play this interview for you guys in case you
missed it way back then, eighty episodes ago, because that's
a long time ago, A long time. That's over a
year on this feed that probably people are probably aren't
scrolling back that far to here. So here is Taniel Arts.
(01:09):
I hope you take some time get to know her.
Remember this is before she had any success or any fame. Really,
she'd been on The Bachelor a couple of times, not
as a contestant, but as a performer. Um, so enjoy this.
This is Tenniel Arts from the house here on the
Bobby Cast. Here we go episode two or three with
tannil Arts. How are you hey? I'm good? How are
you good? All right? Pretty good? I was looking at
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your instagram. You have a lot of followers. Where did that?
What's the deal? Where'd that come from? I don't know.
I mean I've been on social media for a really
long time and on YouTube, and yeah, I've just been
like really trying to keep up the online presence. I
was doing a little deep dive about you and I
had seen that you were on The Bachelor twice, not
as a contestant, although that'd be a good story here,
(01:50):
but you played to why how do you how do
you land getting on the Bachelor? To play? Well? My
manager had been sending my music into them for a
really long time and they just came across some of
my music that they loved. The first song was called
Moment of Weakness, and it pretty much sounded like we
had written it for the show. So it worked out
really well and I performed on one on one date?
(02:10):
Could you remember who it was? Um? It was Ari
and Chelsea? Okay, so, Mike, do you know who Ari is?
I do? Okay, help me out. Good looking dude. I
think it's like kind of great here right? Oh yeah, okay,
So I got it. And that was the season. I
don't really watch the show. I don't hate people to do.
By the way, don't get mad at me. Bachelor Nation.
He's the one that was like he broke up with
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the girl at the end of the season. Yeah, he
makes someone and then broke up with her and then
picked the like second place girl. Like now that I
can admire anyone that kind of is not status quo
on that show. I like, okay, so you you played
for him and Chelsea? Did they stay together? Was it
your song? Was that the reason they didn't stay together? Don't?
I hope not? No, she left she had a kid,
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so she wanted she had a kid on the show,
not on the show. But I think she wanted to
get back to her her son, so I think she
ended up leaving the show. So tell me what that's
like them playing do you have played over and over
and over again for the cameras. Yeah, we play it
a few times. Not it's like definitely a surprise for
the girl. I think the bachelor knows that this is
going down because I think he has like a hand
(03:15):
in picking the dates. But uh, the girl was completely
surprised when she walked in and we played the song
a couple of times for them to get their shots
and everything. But then we play it again multiple times,
and that makes sense so they can shoot you. Yeah,
they can get close ups and stuff. But it was
really awkward because nobody told me if I should look
at the cameras or not. So I just found myself
(03:35):
staring at the couple dancing and making out, and it
was so awkward. I didn't not know what to do.
It was Yeah, that was that. But so let me
hear some of this moment of weakness and I'm gonna
imagine a couple of dancing right that is quite a
(03:58):
bachelor song. Yeah, because you're based be begging them to
make out right there, you're playing that song, like, all right,
have your moment weakness, right, You're on camera, so we
can document it. Okay, So you go on the show
and I would imagine, because I've had some friends go
on that show and play, there's a nice pop with
your music to day after it airs. Oh yeah, so
that was pretty cool, right, that was really cool. That
had a huge part to do with my social media
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and just my music getting out there in general. So
but then you go back again. Yeah, So then they're like, hey,
you riveted our couple so much, we want you to
bring that back for another couple. Is that what happened
the next time? I don't know. They're just like they
became a fan of my music and they wanted to
help me out as a new artist. And I think
it's really cool and kind of unexpected to be a
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part of something like The Bachelor, Like you wouldn't think
that's a great way to promote your music, but it
kind of is. I mean, there's a lot of people
that watch that show and it's like the perfect age
for my music. So they asked me to come back.
So you go back and then you play for this
one was Colton and a Lease Okay. Now, if I
remember they're not together, you're over too. I just telling
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you your success right on this show is not good
for the couple stand together. I've played really early on
in the show, so I feel like, you know, you
never know what's going to happen at that point. So
Colton and Elie and what are they doing? Like, yeah,
it was in a big theater in l A. So
there was actually an audience there. Okay, so a little
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more natural way. So you're playing in a theater and
how does that And part of me for not knowing this,
how did they set that up? Do they fake like
they're walking in on a show or they're both big
Tannil Arts fans? Yeah, sometimes they do it like that,
not that they'd be faking it, but I'm gonna work.
I do a lot of TV two and we fake
a lot of stuff, not not originally, but in order
(05:42):
to redo it again and again and again, we have
to sometimes go all right, let's shoot this again. Yeah,
So they walk in like, oh, yeah, we're big fans
of Tannil Arts. Let's go Is that what it? Yeah?
Basically that's what that's what happened. It was like a
surprise for the girl and everything, but she ended up
messaging me like right after that episode and was like,
I'm gonna remember that night forever. I love your music.
So she definitely like dove into my music after that,
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and so and then there you have it too. We
need one more that you gotta get on a successful
You gotta get on a couple of the stays together.
Right right now, you're the Clayton Kershaw of of the
Bachelor's just not working out for you so far. That's
pretty cool that they brought you back. And what song
did you do there? Well? It ended up being a
song called I Hate This, which was a breakup song
(06:25):
which you predicted. What was I do? I like that
song this? I hate the song I've programmed into the
heart the women of by our country show. This is
a good one. Not that the other one wasn't. I
just had never heard it. I liked this one a lot.
When you hear your own music, you kind of bob
(06:46):
your head and you still do you like listen to
your own music? I do, yeah, because when when we
played that, I felt like you kind of felt that
a little bit. Yeah. I immediately started thinking about when
I like wrote it and who it's about, And yeah,
I go there every time. So you wrote that. Okay, good,
it's a perfect segue into this. We have a lot
of songwriters that come on the show, which you are
obviously um and and they talk about songs. So let's
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talk about this song specifically. How long ago did you
write it? It would have been like a year and
a half ago. Oh still pretty fresh? Yeah, pretty new.
And it's funny because when I had originally written it,
I wasn't going through a breakup or anything like. I
was kind of imagining what that would be like and everything,
and then I went through a breakup and that song
it was so hard to go out and sing that
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song at every show. So a song that you didn't
write about your breakup ended up being hard to sing
because later on you went through a breakup. Yeah, that's
kind of Mike. We've never heard a story like that, right, Like,
they write a song and then it comes back into
their lives about their lives the breakup, and then it's
hard to think about that. But yeah, not the only way.
You're like Carly when she would come in, like yew,
I wrote every little thing, and you know, I would
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play and think about the breakup every time, but you
didn't break up with the song. It just came back
to haunt you later. It did. Interesting, So you write
this song and you did you write it about the
boyfriend you had at the time, and at least, like,
did you predict predicting the breakup? Aren't you? It wasn't
that far before we ended up breaking up, So I
think that I had a little bit of that in
(08:10):
my mind. But I always try to like take from
personal experiences or try to imagine what it would be
like if I was going through that. Wrote You wrote
this with the guy name Adam Wheeler, So you guys
hop in a room together, and how does that work
with you? You go, hey, I got this idea, I'm
probably gonna break up with the dude, Like, how does
that work? I didn't say, yeah, no, it was. I
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had written a lot with him around that same like
time period, so we knew what was going on in
each other's lives and and he knew that things were
like a little bit rocky in my relationship, and he
had talked about some of his past relationships and we
really just kind of dove into it and the song.
It's weird because the song isn't really about like a breakup.
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It's about that time period right after you break up
where you don't know if you're going to end up
getting back together or if you're just going to actually
stay broken up. Because so I feel like there's a
little bit of hope during that time where you still
love that person and you still think maybe you know,
something might work out, but then you know eventually you
have to deal with the fact that okay, maybe it
really is over. Let's talk about that for a second
away from music. Like most times, let's still a little
(09:15):
public service announcement. It doesn't work out. If you're gonna
break up, it doesn't work. I'll tell you from my experience,
you feel like you know I might work out, let's
give it another try. But I'm gonna say probably of
the time, if you break up and you're like, m,
maybe we should give it a try, because it could
it's not going yeah, because I think once you break up,
(09:36):
you think that those those things will maybe like work
themselves out, and then when you get back together it'll
just be like a fresh start. But it's not. There's
still like all of those things that you all of
those issues. I guess that you had before. You know
what you should do. This is maybe a lesson for
you, you you little younger than I am, or anyone watching
this or listening to this. If you're struggling in your
relationship and you don't know really what to do to
(09:59):
make it work. Have a baby. Oh my gosh, what
do you say? That's a go? I just have a baby.
Then you're stuck and you have to make it work. Problem. Yeah,
I would say, yeah, fixes fixes all the problems. You
don't agree with that, Um, why don't we do somebody
like that? Which is this is the single? Now it is? Okay?
(10:20):
Here is somebody like that? All right? Tell me about
this one? All right? Well, I wrote this one after
(10:40):
writing a ton of breakup songs. I was like, I'm done, Like,
I'm done writing these breakup songs. I want to start
looking for somebody again. I want to, you know, start
putting myself out there. So I got in the writing
room with Alex Klein and Allison Belts and we were
just kind of reflecting on relationships that we had seen
a really well, like looking at our parents, looking at
(11:02):
our grandparents, you know, just kind of those relationships that
we idolized as kids and looked up to. And you know,
I have a lot of great relationships in my life,
and and I feel like we just looked back on,
you know, maybe love that we had or love that
went really well, love that went bad, and just kind
of looking for the right kind of love this time
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and not settling until we find it. And how long
would you write this song? This one would have been
about six months ago? And did you predict the future?
Much like you predicted the demise of the Bachelor? You'd
make this song? And did somebody like that come along
predicted the future? What you need to do? You need
to write more song predicting, predicting future songs. Yeah, my
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therapist says, you got to like see the good stuff,
But then I do and it never happens, so then
I start seeing the bad stuff again. You have an accent,
which is interesting, not so much of a Canadian one
a little bit. I dated a Canadian girl for a
long time, so I'm very experienced with the Canadian talk.
And your your your little hybrid English French a type language.
(12:11):
But it's a little country accent too. Yeah, So what like,
what tell me about like a town you grew up in?
I grew up in a really small town in Saskatchewan
in Canada, and my dad's a wheat farmer, so we
grew up like in the small town. But then we
also had the family farm, so I spent a lot
of time out there. And because a wheat farmer, huh,
(12:32):
what is that entail day to day? I mean, for
us being in Canada, there's like a very short sound
like a week right where it's warm enough to grow anything. Yeah,
I mean it pretty much starts like end of May June,
and harvest time is lake September October. So is it
vacat is it like snow vacation? They're all the rest
of the year as a wheat farmer. Well, my dad
had another job that he worked that whole time as well. Um,
(12:55):
but yeah, I guess for most people or they've got
like cattle or something, but we don't we eat farmer
in Canada. I didn't think about that. Like when I
flow to Toronto Wish by the way, I don't know
what's in the water up there, but you guys are
way too nice and I enjoy it. I enjoy it.
But even with my ex girlfriends, she's way too nice.
And now we'll be like, why are you being so
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nice to me all the time? But it was just
a natural. It was just like in you guys blood.
And I didn't really realize that until I went to
Toronto and people would just like stop on the road
and talk to me. And this is Toronto, to which
is very metropolitan by the way, It really close to
New York, and you would think would be a little
different than than you know, Saskatchewan or um Vancouver or
a lot of these other places that I was feeling with.
But people were just like, hey, sir, and I'll be like,
(13:37):
what's up? Would you like a dollar? Not asking for
the homeless. People were offering me money in Canada. It
was so different than here in the States. Were like,
gonna get a dollar? They were like, so I don't
how much, but why don't you have my last dollar?
Canadians are nuts, man, It's awesome. So um. It was
my point with all that might really nice. Yeah, I
feel like I was onto something there, but so your dad,
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oh but but oh my point is I'll flying in
and I would see golf courses in Canada and I
was like, what week do you get to play golf here?
It's so cold all the time. And so you're do
you have tractors? Yeah? Okay? And how big was his
wheat farm? Um? People always ask me this, and I
always forget to ask him how big it is. But
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I mean, we've got a lot of land. Do we
need to call your dad? And ask? Might have to
because we have a phone connected right there, we can
call your dad. We want to get your dad on
the phone. I'll call him, okay, Nil, don't press me. Hey, Mike,
can you call her dad? Okay, We're gonna call her
dad and see if he'll even just answer the phone.
All right? Does he what's he doing? Is he? Is he?
What is today? Today's Yeah, they're trying to harvest right now,
(14:42):
but it just snows. Get interrupted by a phone call
and his daughter? Has your dad ever been an interview before? No? Okay,
it's first. Is it gonna be nervous? Yeah, we're gonna
plug the phone up something. We have this phone here
to Neil, and so sometimes we'll do phone interviews if
people are in Los Angeles. Are you freaked out about
your dad being on Well, I'm just like, he never
answers this phone. So we might go through all of
this or nothing. That's all right. I didn't say we
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didn't try, right, Mike, And this might this phone rings
all that I'll be because this is in my house, which,
by the way, if you're a dog barking and you're
listening to this is because my have a bulldog puppy
kind of put him away for this interview, but I
can hear them barking down. Do you hear them barking? No? No,
he does this some time. Are you's so cute? All
he does? Um? And so this this phone as soon
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as we bought the line to start calling people, it rings.
It'll be one o'clock in the morning. Oh, is it
just like random? It's like people trying to sell me stuff.
I thought it'd be like Janet Kramer, who we call
on it and they're like, what up? No, it's it's
some people trying to sell me stuff. All right, you
wanted to show you the number off the camera? All right,
let's see, by the way, everyone listening right now as
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we as we look at this followed to Neil on Instagram,
t E N I L L E Arts to Neil Arts.
That is her name? There? Do I have a dial tone? Mike?
We do all right, let's see if we and what
is his name? Well, Kevin, know that an unnamed Nashville
phone number is probably specific to you, maybe, okay, because
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I never would answer a call if I didn't know
who it was. Yeah, I mean, well, he's just like,
he'll leave his phone. Does he have any idea who
Bobby Bones is at all? I just I was just
talking to him last night and I was like, I'm
doing this this show. Okay, I don't hear anything, but
you have reached Okay, text him and say, hey, we're
(16:34):
trying to call you. Can you answer the call here? Okay?
All right, um, let me read you a little bit
about tanil lest she does this here. Let's see she
won five of the Saskatchewan Country Music Association Awards for
All which you were nominated. Okay, might you still have
his number? I don't. Okay, he needs a phone again.
What we're doing is really hacking your phone? Does what's
the trick we do with everyone? So maybe he'll see that.
(16:57):
All right, we're gonna keep going, Mike, I guess we
have to here at huh. Yeah, okay, that's all right,
We're good. So tell me you're on revival Records, How
long you've been how'd you get that? That deal about
a year and a half ago, and so how did
they get onto you to sign you? It was actually
it had a lot to do with The Bachelor. I
performed on the first time I've performed it was, yeah,
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completely without a label. And we were having like a
viewing party for the episode here in Nashville, and we
had Gator from Revivor Records come out to the show
because I played like a little set before the episode aired,
and it was pretty instant, like I met with him
and the whole team, and I was just like, this
feels like a perfect place for me. Were good for you? Yeah? Wow?
(17:40):
And so then you become a millionaire soon as you
get signed. Yeah, of course that's that's that's how it works, right,
and you're just loaded. Yeah, Mike, if we don't get
him this time, we'll just give it a rest for
a bit. Yeah, Okay, that's all right, We're still gonna
get him. He's gonna text he maybe listen, well he
listened to this, Yeah, oh yeah, he he loves to
listen to it like all the home and I'll hear
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him watching and listening to my YouTube videos. I'm like,
dadham right here, super supportive dad. Yeah. So what about
your mom? They still together? Yeah? Okay, and what does
she do? She used to work as a lab tech
in the hospital, but she is was a stay at
home mom from my entire life a lab tech like needles,
you know. I had a cousin once who was training
to be a lab tech and she said, Hey, I
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need to borrow you for needle practice. And I was like,
first of all, it's not gonna happen. I don't do
needles very well. That she was like, I need to
do needles in your knuckles because apparently they have to
learn if they can't get it from your arm, they
have to draw it from your knuckles. And so I
don't do I didn't let her do it, obviously, but
I didn't know you could draw needle from knuckles either.
Did your mom draw black from people? She did? Yeah,
if you were sick, could she help you, like giving
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you I V S or medicine. She never did any
of that stuff, but I mean she had medical knowledge,
so she I mean, she would help us out as
much as she could. All Right, So you moved to
the States when four years ago you've only been here
four years. So okay, so do you do the whole
Canada thing first, where you're you know, you like, I'm
gonna be a star in Canada? Not really. I mean
I was a little bit involved in like the Canadian
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country music industry up there, um, and they had a
really cool program that I was a part of that
was like the Discovery program where they help you out,
give you the connections and everything. But I always knew
that I wanted to be in Nashville. I made my
first trip. It was it's almost exactly ten years ago
when I first came here to you know, write and
get involved in everything. So I always had my site
(19:29):
set on Nashville, and so I didn't spend a ton
of time focusing on on the Canadian scene. So what
was it for you that made you go I gotta
move down there. I think I had just seen so
many people. It's just such a community, like Canada is
so spread out. I wish they had a place that
everybody could go and write with each other because there's
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really there's nothing. I mean, it's everybody's so spread out.
So I knew that Nashville was just such a community.
I knew that some of my favorite songwriters, some of
my favorite artists. That's what they did. They once they could,
they moved to Nashville and they made their connections and
they just started building it from the ground up. And
that's what I wanted to do. So you tell your
parents what. Well, the first time I actually came down,
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I was fourteen or fifteen, and I had just been
putting up YouTube videos and stuff and a manager called
our house and he was like, Hey, I want to
bring you to Nashville and I want to see if
you know you work well with this girl, because he
was proposing me to be in this duo. So what
you got? Justin Bieber a little bit, They see you
in a little bit as a kid, someone says you
on YouTube and says, let's do it that. I bet
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that would be creepy to me that I'll be like, really,
what's happening here? Yeah? I mean, oh, my dad was
super skeptical about it. My mom was excited because I
was excited, but yeah, it was definitely kind of like
a well, let's just go see what happens, Like let's
me say about it, but yeah, let's go see what happens.
And it was so They always knew that that's where
I wanted to go, so they were supportive of it.
(20:58):
And when I moved, they were like, oh yeah, go
for it. So what happened with that duo? It just
didn't work out. Our music ideas were so different and
it was kind of like a Maddie and Tae thing before,
like pretty much right before Maddie and te So, well,
who was the girl? Is she around? Um? I think
she's still say it? We thought so, she's still in town.
(21:22):
I don't think so. I think she went to college somewhere.
Has hated each other. Huh. We didn't get along. Oh,
I was just kidding, but yeah, we didn't get along. Oh,
Mike and I don't get along. Yeah, we just kind
of stare and okay, so you come and you go. Okay,
well Nashville will want to be so you go back home.
Did you finish school? I did? I finished high school? Okay,
and then you go. As soon as I'm done, I'm
out of here. And so when did you actually pack
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up and moved down. I stayed for just like a
couple of years, just saving up. I still lived with
my parents and everything. And yeah, I was twenty one
when I moved down the first time I had ever
lived on my own, got a one bedroom apartment, the
whole thing. Who moved with you? My mom in a
What tell me the story? You get int the U
haul with the trailer. We we did the drive twice.
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The first time we took her car and just loaded
it up and drove as much as we could down
just to get moved in, and then I ended up
driving back again. I can't really remember why that happened,
but I took I have like a little yellow Pontiac
G five from when I was like sixteen, and we
loaded that thing up and I still have that car.
(22:27):
We drove it all the way down here, and my
mom stayed for about a week to just get me settled,
and then she hopped on a plane and left me
by myself. What's the drive? Full? Twenty five hours of
driving still took us about two days. Do you still
have that car? At least? Do you still drive that car?
With this millionaire record deal, you should have like Mercedes?
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You know, talk about that for a second, because that
is a quite the misconception because you signed a record
and listen, when I signed my record deal, I actually
think I went in the hole. I think I lost money.
And people think when you sign a deal that it's
just like a whole bunch of money given to you.
Um you're a bit different than I am. You're better
(23:09):
tell me what happens when you sign a deal. Well,
for me, my deal was pretty unique because my publisher, Um,
so I had been living off of, you know, being
a songwriter and sign a publishing deal first, and about
halfway through that first year, my publisher was like, we
should record this stuff on you. He knew that I
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wanted to be an artist, and so he really started
just helping me out with all of that stuff, which
was really really cool, and I ended up signing kind
of he created a label, I guess for me to
release music, and so when I ended up signing with
Reviver like that, all still kind of stayed together. So
not much really changed for me other than having you know,
(23:52):
all of the label and everything. But yeah, I know,
it's not like you're just like handed a bunch of
money and like, yeah, you're as signed artist now. Mostly
they go, we're gonna pay for you to do things,
and even then you got to pay us back. Yeah,
that's really unless you're a major artist switching labels and
they're trying to woo you. They're going, Okay, we're now
(24:13):
going to pay for you to make a record, and
we're gonna pay for you to travel and do what
they call radio tour, but you will pay us back
or we would drop you. One of the two things
will happen. And so it sounds sounds amazing, doesn't it.
But it is cool to actually get a deal because
they're actually supporting you to go out and try all
this stuff. It is and I mean without that, it
would be really really hard to to do all of
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those things if you didn't have that support. Would you
put on YouTube? What song like the one that I had,
the one that There's Always There's Always a video? It
was fifteen by Taylor Swift and I was fifteen singing it.
So that's what got me here. And when they called,
they asked for you, how why how do they get
your number? That's the whole thing that I still have
(24:53):
not figured out. I don't know how they found me,
but I mean I'm glad that they did because I
learned a lot from it. But um, yeah, they literally
just were like, hey is to kneel there and to
answered the phone and talk to them for a little while,
and yeah, it was weird, grand old opry debut just happened. Amazing,
Oh my gosh. I still can't even believe that it happened.
(25:15):
Like it was just one of those moments where you're like,
it feels like a pad on the back from the
country music industry, you know, just everybody here being like
you deserve to be on that stage and make your debut.
So I think that's what meant so much to me.
And I had a ton of family and friends, everybody
in town for it, so it was just a really
big deal and it made me feel very special. Yeah,
(25:36):
so the the opera the first time is like a
your eyes wide open thing. You'll like the second through
the ninth or tenth time because you actually can take
it in. There's just a lot of people there in
the first one. The first time that I played it,
I was like, holy crap. And I do comedy a
little bit of music, right, so it's not definitely not
the same like you're a legitimate artist. I'm a joke,
(25:56):
so you it's just so many people like oh my goodness,
oh my goodness, that it's really hard to take it in. Yeah,
I feel like that would be what a wedding is like.
Even it's like the build up is like so crazy,
and then it's like over in a second, and you're like, oh,
it is quick. But I will say, I don't know
if you're playing it at anytime soon, but you you
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actually enjoy the operay experience from now on more. Yeah, yeah,
because you look. And for me, I struggle with even
seeing anyone in the audience because I was just like,
oh my god, this is crazy. I'm up here playing
them in the circle. Um, and so I really didn't
see the people out there. From now, I walk out
there and it's it goes much slower. Yeah, that's good.
(26:39):
It's you can take it in. You can actually breathe
and talk in between segments if you want to. There's
not the pressure of all your family being there. Good pressure,
but there's still a lot of pressure there with everybody watching. Yeah,
it definitely was like a little bit of pressure. But
I tried to. When I walked out there, I was like,
for whatever reason, I wanted to like watch my foot
step into the circle. So I made sure to just
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like take them moment to like see that moment. That's cool.
Are you that kind of person? Are you take a
moment person? Yeah? I try to be, especially with those
like really big moments. Otherwise it just gets away from
you sometimes, right, Top three Big moments in your life. Okay,
let's let's let's walk backward on this. I know I've
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given you a second on this one. You're twenty five
years old. Top three Big Moments of your life at
number three, at number three, at number three in America,
we go backward to one. It's like a big build up.
Can I still use the operation? Of course? Yeah? Nothing?
Number three? Number three? Uh? Performing on The Bachelor? Okay?
Which one or two? Two? Because it was it was
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just bigger and more people are like that. So that's
number three. Life moment, number two life momentum performing the
Canadian national anthem at the NBA Finals recently. Yeah, that's
pretty cool. It was a big one. It was something
that literally when I it I started working with my manager,
I was like, the one thing I do not want
to do is sing any anthems. I am terrified. And
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that was when I got the call for that. Obviously,
I was excited and wanted to take that that opportunity
and take that risk. But it was the most terrifying
moment of my entire life so far. Uh what did
you sing with any a band or totally? But yeah,
So was there any sort of echo back on top
of you? Yes, because that was tough. There was a
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lot of people and just you're kind of trying to
keep my note in my head walking out to the
spot where I'm supposed to sing. I was so worried
about that. And then they have all these rules about
like you have to take a hard left to like
walk off so that you don't get hit by the
flag that's coming out for the American anthem. And there
were just so many things to think about. So I
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explain how we're gonna get to number one in a second,
but explain how you're holding your note all the stuffs
happening around you. What are you doing inside your head?
If you watch back any of the clips, I'm literally
just like, um like singing it in my head constantly.
But you got it? Yeah, And the thing, well, I
don't know about the Canadian anthem, but the American anthem,
if you start a little higher than you're supposed to,
(29:13):
you're done. Oh yeah, what what's the Canadian anthem? Like
it's not difficult to to sing, like the range isn't
as crazy as the American anthem. But I think for me,
I overthink anthem so much. I'll go over the lyrics
in my head a hundred times. There's almost a no win. No,
there isn't way because it's number two on your list,
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so that's a win. However, in the grand scheme of
doing the anthem, if you go out and you nail
the anthem, you were supposed to nail the anthem, life
just moves on. If you screw up the anthem any anthem,
life does not move on. People get piste. So it's
a lot of pressure where if you nail it, you
were supposed to thank you go about your day. But
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if you don't, holy crap. I mean I actually ended
up getting a lot of criticism. Why because I changed
it up a little bit. But we took it. You
made it your own. It's not American idols. But okay,
Like the anthem is like oh Canada, and I went,
oh Canada, probably wouldn't done that for me. I just
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got Robert Gooley and watched him and done that. Well,
oh Goda, but that's not me. So I went out
there and I did it the way that you know
Robert Gouley is he's I think he's. I think he's Canadian.
Do you know he is? I do know he is. Yeah.
I saw him saying that the the Canadian WrestleMania once and
for some reason, he's stuck in my head. You see
if Robert Gooley is Canadian, because if he's not, I
(30:39):
feel I could do. Okay, good for you. That's a
number two singing the Canadian national anthem at the NBA finals.
And who was the game? What was the game? It
was Toronto and it was the last one gold State. Yeah,
it wasn't the last but they were, yeah they were. Yes,
it was in the finals. It wasn't Okay, I don't
know sports, but yes, that's what happened. Okay, So but
(30:59):
who won the game? Ah, don't say Golden State because
if you do, this may be the cursive to Neil.
You don't know. We'll go with Toronto then and Kauai
A big game as a whole thing. Yeah, it's a
big yeah. Um, Mike. He is of Canadian descent, boom
from where well he was born in the US, but
(31:19):
ancestry is in Canadian Canadians, Canadian. Who's the most famous
person you're growing up in Canada? The most famous person
to me? Okay, because she was from Canada and also
massive and probably the most famous everybody period in North America. Okay,
so Shania Twain, who anybody else? Because we're I'm on
(31:39):
the radio and saskatchwe is that a town or a province? Okay?
So dumb, forgive me, because here's what happened. I love
the people in Canada. Can't get enough of them. That
being said, I was thrown into so many places at
once that they're like, you're in all that and I'm
trying to learn as fast as I can. I'm a
big Ottawa said Hitters fan, although they suck, so I
(32:03):
wear the hat proudly. But that may be the worst
run hockey organization in the NHL. Are you a hockey
fan a little bit? Okay? Who's your team? Well? I'm
I just hop on the bandwagon of wherever I am.
So freds, Oh, you don't have like a Canadian team?
I don't. You didn't did your dad like watch a team?
I mean like we grew up as a family. My
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brother played, so I mean the most hockey I watched
was him playing and I also played for a year,
just saying but yeah, um played hockey. Yet you don't
have like a team that you watched. Okay, so you're
a Preds fan. Yeah, I like to actually go to games.
Watching sports on TV just does nothing for me. And
you played hockey. Also a dancer and you answered that confidently.
(32:49):
So you were a good dancer. I mean I was competitive,
especially with like tap dancing. That was kind of my thing. Um,
but my little sister is amazing, and so I once
I decided that I wasn't going to be a dancer,
she really she like ran with it. She loves dancing
and she still does that to this day. How many
years did you dance? From the time I was like
(33:10):
three to eighteen? Oh a long time. Did you ever
winny championships? I? Well, like I went to competitions all around, um,
like the provinces boarding mine and a few in the States. Trophies,
I want some stuff crap because I want a trophy dance,
and I like to brag about it a little bit.
I danced for four months and well, yeah, there you go.
(33:32):
That's right, And that's a pretty big trophy, that's right.
That's right. So probably imagine if I danced for fifteen years,
all the trophies I would have. Um, Okay, so you're
in Canada, you moved to the States. You've been here
for as of today, like four years. That's it. Huh,
Well you're just a baby and yeah, actual and you
(33:52):
have a record deal and you've got music that's already.
That's good for you. Thank you. Kind of popping a
little bit. Well, I just decided. I was like, if
I'm gonna be away from everybody, because like I moved
here not knowing anybody, my entire families back in Canada.
I was like, if I'm gonna move here, I'm gonna
put my head down to make sure that this time
is worth it, and my time away from my family
and my grandparents everything I needed to make it feel
(34:13):
like it was worthwhile. Is it frustrating to not find
a key chain with your name on it? Yes, because
I don't know. I never met a Tannil until I
met the other one, and I was like huh and
then I heard and I was like, there's another. So
Tennil Towns is a friend and she opened for me
for a lot of tour for a lot of my
comedy tour last year, and then I was like they
(34:34):
were like ten Neil Arts and I was like, no,
you're saying it wrong. It's aid Town, not Art. And
they're like, no, there's another Tannil And I was like,
well how about that. That's kind of weird. What is she?
You know? What were she from? Like from Canada too?
Same age? That's confusing, isn't that crazy? Did you guys
know each other? Oh? You did from like a tenail
(34:55):
chat room where you guys everybody Toil would get in
and talk with each other. Actually, the first time I
met her, she had one of her good friends with
her and her name was also Tanil. So what's what's happening?
Is there something Canada where they name him after Captain Intanil?
Is big? Big thing? Mike is Tanil Canadian? From Captain Intanil?
I don't know you looked at up. I know that
she was born in like Montgomery, Alabama or something. So
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you know this already because I thought that was weird
because I grew up on Montgomery Crescent. She was from Montgomery, Alabama.
Does that have anything to do with your name? Well,
my parents named me after after Captain They loved the name,
but they also gave me two middle names just in case.
Captain Intanil what sinking songs like muskrat Love. I don't
(35:38):
know how I know that. Did Kevin hit his back
on the text? Not yet, They're apparently they're not Canadian.
You're going to lose. Um, okay, so let's do we
do this sometimes your Mount Rushmore of artists. Okay, you
get four, However I allow five because everyone always goes,
let me add one more. I'm gonna give you five,
(35:59):
but you can't go let me add one more. We're
already doing that plus one. So okay, five artists on
your Mount Rushmore. Who is your first artist? Are they?
Doesn't matter the genre, it can be any genre first artist,
Like this is no order? Well, okay, you don't have
to rank them, but you can if you want. Are
you saying right now? No order? No order? Because they'll
(36:20):
probably come to me as as we do this. Um. Well,
I grew up listening to Paul Simon, so I'm a
huge fan of his songwriting and everything. Um yeah, the
whole record, the whole record. Okay, go ahead, um oh man,
this is already hard and I'm only one person in. Um,
(36:43):
Shania Twain has to be in there. Ah, I know
I'm going to do this and forget somebody and be
really sad. Um Keith Urban, Kelly Clarkson. And you got
one here that counts. It's not a bonus that you
(37:03):
get five so so far? Why you're thinking we have
Paul Simon, Shania Twain, Keith Urban, Kelly Clarkson, Oh my gosh,
can I call a friend? Um? I don't know. That's
a hard one. There's so many good artists like I
feel like, but if you pick nobody, then you get nothing. Yeah,
you're not balance to this contractually, you know. If you
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leave this house and decide, you can just see me
overthinking everything right now. I'm like, wait, do I okay,
pull up a playlist on your phone? What do you Spotify,
Apple Music whatever you have? Pull it up? Okay, and
we will. Let's look at the last song? Great, yes,
love it? Okay? No, no, no, let's look at the playlist.
(37:46):
I don't really have playlists. You'll have like liked songs
like the last songs you liked. I don't do that.
Let me see your let see your playlist here? Like,
I'm kind of all over the place. Well, you should
be musically, but how do you find stuff? Chase albums?
I just like I look up the album like this
is my You have the last songs you played yours?
Yours was warming up in the car on the way here.
Your song, which is interesting. You brought a guitar. We've
(38:09):
never had anyone bring a guitar. You never know when
you're gonna need to break out in a song. That's true,
So to your last song, as I hate this. Do
you have a list of stuff you played recently? I
don't know how to get library. I got you. Technology
is hard for me. Oh check it out. A lot
of chumba wamba. You're a big fan and I'm just um,
Carrie Underwood, Casey musk Graves. Who's Paul Sykes. He's a
(38:33):
friend of mine. He used to play guitar for me.
Shout out, Paul Sykes. I'm really going through your stuff.
This is this is some stuff here. Um. You have
a lot of some artists named tennial arts a lot. Wow,
are you in the fan club? Who's Twin Kennedy? They're
also friends of mine. Okay, so we get a lot
of shout outs here, and that's all you have, all
your songs, you listen to yourself and your friends. I
(38:53):
like that. Well, I gotta download my own stuff and
make sure that like nothing's wrong with it, you know,
when it goes out there? All right, Um, well, why
don't we let's let's I'm not gonna ask you like
really sing or anything, but let's grab this guitar, Mike.
Let's see what's happened over here. If we can get
Kevin to call us back. Kevin's big time and it's
right now. Do you know, let's play a game while
he's doing that. Okay? Canadian or not Canadian? Are you ready?
(39:17):
I'll give you, I'll give you a celebt. You tell
me if they're Canadian or not. Jake Jillen Hall not
okay correct, Ryan Reynolds Canadian? Right, Hayley Bieber not correct?
James Franco not, Ryan Gosling Canadian? Yeah, Ann Hathaway not not.
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Does the Canadians have dominate any interview? You ever? Do? Are?
They always tell me about Canada a little bit? But yeah?
What about the double to Neils? Does it happen a lot?
Do you ever think if it doesn't work, you too
can form a group? Maybe and just be called Tenniel
took at this. What kind of guitar we have here?
This is a PRS acoustic. So what we're gonna to
do here, because we're gonna play very light I have
(40:02):
We've never done this before. So let's see what it
sounds like. Well, let me make sure. I like to
go no tuning. Yeah, we like to go out of tune.
It's kind of our style here on the show. Okay, Mike,
you wanna see how this sounds. You have to check
it out. Okay, Um, you want her to back away
from Mike just a little bit, maybe just a little bit. Okay,
(40:24):
it's the opposite what we just did. We have Now
we're gonna have you moved back just a little bit,
all right, So um, play me a little bit of
I Hate this because that's the one you had up
on your phone. Okay, and then we're going to the
Canadian national anthem. I'm just kidding. I was like, no,
maybe not all right. For the first time on this podcast,
someone's gonna play. We'll do a little bit of I
hate this. Go ahead, you let me just do like
(40:45):
verst course Yeah, okay, I hate this. Here I am
running into you China. I hate this excellent. I it's
not killing me when it now? Watch the game still
(41:07):
looks good on you. Don't you think it's time we
in this little lips bement because I know we said
we just be friends. I can by care pretson boy,
(41:29):
I shouting bottom. I still love you and that's good.
Thank you. Look at that, it's good, thank you. Well
(41:49):
look okay, well, let me can put the mic, put
the guitar down. That's good. How does sound? Do we know?
I found pretty good? Popped or anything? Okay, Well, if
you have it, you want to do a little bit
your new song, then sure. I mean, if that's the
new single, let's it's her somebody like that. I've seen
pick up lines and dye bar stranger slow dance. I've
(42:13):
seen Happy Hour two for once turned one nice dance.
I've seen on rather lay night, drunk dies. I've seen
that sent to rether, fairy tale, go up in cigarettes smoke.
I've seen two hearts beat it all and still end
(42:35):
up bron Your thing won't be easy, yeah, my tay wise,
but I want that all. I keep the fire burning
like the first time feeling, no matter what, if I'm
gonna I'm gonna love somebody forever. Take it back. I'm
(43:11):
gonna somebody like, holy crap, man, it's really good. You're
like two ft tall Mongus boys. Thank you, Michael. Take
your guitar from you. He'll be sure to drop it.
There it is. Let's check one more time for Kevin.
I would love to have had him on the show. Kevin,
did he respond to your text? No? Mm hmmm. He
(43:35):
probably likes your brother and sister better. Huh. I bet
if they texted, he probably would have been like he
literally just never has his phone on him. So what's
the story with your brothers and sisters? You have one?
You have to total one each. I have two sisters
and a brother. Okay, and you are in the mix?
What what what level? Second youngest? Okay? And your oldest
is Brittany? Okay, what's Brittany do music at all? It's
(43:58):
not really no. She her husband was in the military
in Canada. They moved around a lot, and now they're
back in Saskatchewan starting their own company. So they're they're
working on stuff there. It's a drone company. Oh that's cool.
My coat husband has a drone company. He was in
the military too. Yeah, and now they apparently all fly
drones and looking our windows and who knows everything about
(44:18):
our lives? And then your brother is older than you,
and what does he do? He went to school, um
for finance stuff, but he's also been working at the
farm as well, so he's We're all just kind of
all over the place doing our own thing. And your
youngest sister is a hockey plant dancer? Is that true?
She just dances? Now? Okay, are they very proud of you? Yeah?
(44:38):
They like keeping up. Are they super excited? Yeah, they
keep up. And my little sister and I talked like
really often. But um so since we're both kind of
very I guess you know, we like hair and makeup
and photos and and doing all of the fun stuff.
My older two siblings felt like they were not in
the group or whatever of us performing sisters. So they
(45:01):
created their own Instagram called like the other two Siblings
or something, and they recreate our photos on the farm.
It is hilarious. Yeah, it's it's pretty funny. So they
they're all supportive and yeah, so parents, four kids, Any
animals growing up? Yeah, we had a dog, a dog, yeah,
just one. Okay, No cows, No, no cows. What kind
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of animals are on farms in Canada. We had just
like a lot of straight cats, like farm cats just
running around. All right, Mike, anything for Tanil. We're about
about to wrap this up. I was just amazing good
that was That was awesome. Yeah, that was really good.
What's cool? As we could hear everybody saying I hear
about on the show or out, it's really good. I
don't know that. I was not expecting it to be,
(45:47):
but it's really good. And we've never done that before. Yeah,
you gotta brought your guitar and a ball or move.
It's like, I just have my guitar. If you need it,
let me. That's it's cool. I like that. Here's so.
I work on American Idol and I mentor a lot
of these these kids. A lot of the kids need
more of the music mentorship. A lot of the older
people kind of need the kind of the life how
to go to the reality show. But I tell them,
and I think you could probably speak on this too.
(46:08):
If someone asked you to play, just freaking play, Yeah
that's it. If someone's like, hey do you play, don't
take a thing and be like, well, I'm not really
right now, and you know, let me think it, go like,
play your freaking song always because you never know who's listening.
Who may that person is not going to get your
record deal, but they may hear you and go, oh
this person you should you should hear that. That's the thing.
(46:30):
You never know when you're going to be discovered. And
I think the more you play, the more you get
out there, the more chances there are. You know, you
can't just sit in your bedroom and sing songs all
the time and think that you're going to get somewhere.
Here's my my neighbor overheard me singing in my backyard
and recommend me to get in vocal training. Is that
familiar at all? Because it didn't happen to me. It
happened to me. So you're singing and just doing How
(46:53):
old are you? Oh my gosh, I was probably like seven.
And your neighbor hears something in your voice and says,
how you should go and learn to sing the real way. Yeah,
she came over because I was always just like belting
out and I ha Twain songs or like whatever I
was listening to or making songs up belt him out
in my backyard and my neighbor just came over and
(47:13):
she's told my mom, She's like, I think she has
a great voice. I think you should try to, you know,
take her somewhere, see if she can do something with it.
And of course I loved that my first voice lesson.
I was so pumped and just so excited that, like
that's what made it feel real to me at eight
years old, seven or eight whatever it was, I was like,
that's going to be my career. I'm going to do this.
(47:33):
Where did you start singing as a kid? Publicly, I
did like a couple of little like local festivals and
things like that. But also because I was doing classically
um trained music, I also performed in like the music
festivals and stuff, and you would sing what kind of
song is a classical trained performer? There was like a
(47:55):
book songs out of Okay, Um, you have another record
coming on the next year. Yeah, yeah, we we know
when it'll be early, and people listen to these things forever,
so it may already be out when this thing is.
You may be hearing the Tinnil Arts podcast because we've
done a lot of these mike where people have at
early stages they've got a blown up and you can
(48:15):
go back and hear them, because this is episode two
hundred and three, So early on we had some artists
on in the early stages too, and they were like,
I don't know, We're just trying to get something going.
And you go back now and you're like, holy crap,
Like now they're they're big deals. So hopefully, uh, this
this is what happens here. Okay, Well, listen, we've I
think we've said everything that that we need to say.
(48:36):
You feel like you learn a little bit about you, Yeah, Kevin,
Kevin will not call us back if you're listening right now, Kevin,
we tried. Before we wrap it up, we're gonna we're
gonna give it one more look, not yet. I'm gonna
ask you a few random questions here and then we'll
call this a day. What's the last concert you bought
tickets for? I bought tickets for Casey Musgraves and I
didn't get to go. Which show? It was the one
(48:58):
at the Rhyman the Gold Now our tour I did. Yeah,
I'm really jealous. Yeah you should be. It's it's great. Yeah.
Why did you not get to go? I had a
show come up? Great reason to not go? Exactly how
about that good? Okay, So question number two, what's the
last movie you saw in theaters? In theaters? Um, I
think it was that last show, um, last movie of
(49:21):
the Avengers or whatever that. Yeah, in game it was good. Huh,
it was long. Yeah. Well, here's the thing, I didn't
watch any of the other ones, because there were like three.
I saw most of them, but there were only three
or four that I didn't see, and I felt a
little out of it at times. I can only imagine
(49:42):
what you felt. No, it's knowing. I was very out
of it. Well, actually, I think I saw the Captain
Marvel won the Girl. Um. Maybe, yeah, I saw that
one before. But also at the end of that, I
did not know that this was like a big thing
that was going to be coming to an end, and
everybody was sitting in the theater like waiting to see
whatever they show at the end of those movies. I
(50:03):
had no clue. I was completely in the dark that
this was a whole series of things. And that's the
last movie you saw. Okay, are you on the road
a lot? Now? Every weekend? You're going out? This weekend,
I am, I'm leaving tomorrow. Where do you go? I'm
going to Deadwood, South Dakota. Wow, Yeah, it's a trip. Yeah,
you're driving the Pontiac, but I don't even think it
(50:28):
would make it there. One final question, what is your
hobby and why do you do it? My hobby? Um,
it cannot be something you make money at, so don't
say music. What is your hobby and why do you
do it? Man? It's a lot of my things have
to do with music, But like this, one thing that
I started doing is like painting on the back of
(50:51):
jean jackets. So that's kind of like a hobby thing
that has become something that I think. That's a wonderful answer. Um,
you're in a jacket now. That is Arry painty, but
you didn't paint this one. Okay, let's check one more
time for Kevin. This is her dad. Three. Okay, we'll
talk to you. We'll do a whole podcast with him,
(51:13):
Mike at some point. Listen to Neil. It's been I
didn't know you on the way. Had we ever met?
I don't feel like we've ever met. Um, it's it's
been nice to get to know you. Thank you. Nice
to get to know you too. I feel like big
things are ahead. Thank you. Do you feel like I'm
talking about for me, But do you feel like that,
you feel like they're also ahead for you. Yeah, Okay,
I'm excited. I feel like this is a time where
I just I've been through so much in the past
(51:34):
year that i feel like my music has just changed
so much and I'm just excited for everything that's coming
with it. All Right, Tanil Arts T E N I
L L. E. Arts. I've bet you. People ask all
the time if that's your real last name. It is
Kevin Arts, one of my favorite wheat farmers in Canada,
so it's a guy. Um. All right, Well, there we
have it, Mike, I believe that I'll wrap us up
(51:54):
episode two oh three with Tenille Arts. It's a solid interview,
maybe the longest you've ever done it was, but it
was great. Yeah, as you walk out the house, and
I always wonder if it's weird because this we'd normally
do this earlier in the daytime, but because of my schedule,
so weird this week we actually did this one at night.
It's fully dark right now. Yeah, I'd always think it'd
be weird going to somebody's house for a show, like
(52:16):
someone's like coming to the come to the house. We're
gonna do a show like this gotta be a little weird, right,
I mean not really. I was like, I'm coming here
with my manager. I don't know, it doesn't matter to me, great,
I wouldn't. I just just think, like going to somebody's house,
this is a trick. But you can rest assured it
is not a trick. All right. But we didn't record
any of this is just for me. We're just saving
it all right, tonil Arts, I'm gonna talk to everybody.
(52:38):
Check out her music. Her new single as of right now,
this recording. The song is called Somebody Like That. Um,
I really like the song. I hate this. I put
it on the National Female Show a couple of times.
I'll tell you what, I'll do it again because I
I felt like the performance was fantastic and I think
that's it. All right to the Arts, thank you,
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