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September 9, 2025 41 mins

This week, we’re joined by Hollywood icon and book club MVP, Judy Greer. The star of The Long Walk chats with us about the new film, how her love of reading helps her get into character, and why she’s finally feeling grounded in her career after years of being everyone’s favorite on-screen bestie. She also spills on which celeb gives the best book recs, who’s a secret reader, and the two things she can’t stop stealing from set: books… and bras. Yes, really. 

Books mentioned:

Carrie by Stephen King

On Writing by Stephen King

Things In Nature Merely Grow by Yiyun Li

The Long Walk by Stephen King

How to Lose Your Mother by Molly Jong-Fast

Fear of Flying by Erika Jong 

I Don't Know What You Know Me From: My Life as a Co-Star by Judy Greer 

Bossypants by Tina Fey

The Book of Alchemy by Suleika Jaouad

Audition by Katie Kitamura

The Picture of Dorian Gray by Oscar Wilde 

Rebecca by Daphne du Maurier

The Bee Sting by Paul Murray

Demon Copperhead by Barbara Kingsolver

Middlesex by Jeffrey Eugenides

Pride and Prejudice by Jane Austen

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Bookmarked by Reese's book Club is presented by Apple Books.

Speaker 2 (00:05):
Hi.

Speaker 1 (00:05):
I'm Danielle Robe, your host, and welcome to Bookmarked by
Reese's book Club. You guys, I'm so excited for you
to hear this week's conversation. When I tell you I
was smiling the entire time, my cheek's actually hurt by
the end.

Speaker 3 (00:21):
I don't think of myself as a horror fanatic, like,
certainly not in fiction. But when the writing is good,
it does it matter. Like it's a great story.

Speaker 1 (00:31):
I've been wanting to talk to Judy Greer for so
many reasons. First of all, she's a character actress, icon
you know her lover.

Speaker 2 (00:40):
She's given us.

Speaker 1 (00:41):
Some of the most memorable girlies in film, like Jawbreaker,
How to Lose a Guy in Ten Days, thirteen, going
on thirty twenty seven dresses. Okay, her resume is really long.
I'm not going to recite the whole thing.

Speaker 2 (00:54):
But you get it. She's Hollywood's secret.

Speaker 1 (00:57):
Weapon, the woman who can steal a scene with a
single line.

Speaker 2 (01:01):
One of her.

Speaker 1 (01:01):
Latest roles is in the upcoming adaptation of Stephen King's
The Long Walk, which drops September twelfth, So obviously, I
wanted to know what it's like bringing a classic novel
to life on screen.

Speaker 2 (01:13):
But Judy Greer isn't just a scenes stealer.

Speaker 1 (01:16):
She's also a massive reader, like a novel a week
kind of reader, sometimes even more than that. So if
you want a conversation that has all the drama of
a Stephen King's story and all the charm of a
roalm com, you're in the right place. This one is funny,
it's bookish, it's a little behind the scenes Hollywood, and
it's very Judy. So let's turn the page with Judy Greer. Judy,

(01:44):
welcome to the club.

Speaker 3 (01:45):
Thank you.

Speaker 1 (01:46):
I have to tell you, I'm so excited. This is
our first in person interview. What we have been fully virtual.
I haven't felt anybody in person, so I'm so excited
for this.

Speaker 3 (01:57):
That's an honor. I'm very honored.

Speaker 2 (01:59):
Thank you.

Speaker 4 (02:00):
Well.

Speaker 1 (02:00):
One of the reasons I think it was meant to
be is you are a veteran book club girl.

Speaker 3 (02:05):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I am like a reader always in
search of a book club.

Speaker 2 (02:10):
Tell me about your first book club experience.

Speaker 3 (02:13):
So I had you have been like twenty years ago.
I just started it with friends, like I just started
asking around because I really wanted to be in a
book club, and everyone came. I was very specific about
wanting it to be every six weeks, not once a month,
because I didn't want to only be reading book club books.

(02:34):
And yeah, everyone came, and then I asked everyone to
bring someone.

Speaker 2 (02:38):
Oh that's a fun idea.

Speaker 1 (02:39):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (02:39):
Yeah, So it wasn't just my friends. So it was
kind of like and I did this also with my
knitting group. If you decided to do a knitting podcast,
we can talk about this there.

Speaker 2 (02:48):
But did you have any rules for picking the book?

Speaker 3 (02:51):
That we would kind of go around and pitch books,
like a couple books, and then we would sort of
like choose between the ones that were p is how
I think.

Speaker 2 (03:01):
We did it.

Speaker 1 (03:02):
Our book club is only a few months old, and
so I'm trying to figure out the best way to
book club even virtually.

Speaker 3 (03:10):
Well, you don't have to worry about a spread.

Speaker 2 (03:11):
No, it's less expensive.

Speaker 3 (03:13):
It's less expensive. It's nice because I was always the
one hosting and that could get stressful. So this is
also you're already solving a lot of the problems. Another
problem I found and look, I like rules. I'm a
rule follower. There was a lot of like god, chitter
chatter sometimes in an in person meeting that I felt

(03:34):
like was kind of rude and inappropriate.

Speaker 2 (03:37):
I know, I agree, it's hard with an in person.

Speaker 1 (03:40):
So anybody that follows you on social media knows that
you are pretty, but you're also very literary. You post
and you may even be reading more, but you post
at least three books a month.

Speaker 3 (03:51):
Yeah. Yeah, I do read a little bit more than that.
I'm trying not to post about the ones that don't,
because you know what I'm learning.

Speaker 2 (03:59):
It was that don't what.

Speaker 3 (04:00):
Like, I don't want to like say bad things about
a book. So if you can't say something that, you
just don't say anything at all.

Speaker 2 (04:07):
Are you a speed reader?

Speaker 3 (04:08):
Though?

Speaker 2 (04:08):
Like, how are you reading?

Speaker 1 (04:09):
So?

Speaker 3 (04:09):
Muny read too fast? I definitely read way too fast.
My retention is not great, and I don't think I'm
a speed reader. But I just get excited. But I
have to confess that I read a book recently and
I did flip to like a really bad thing happens.
It was the new Wallylamb book. Okay, I was like,
I just need to know what he does.

Speaker 2 (04:30):
What's cool is that because I know people that do
that with TV.

Speaker 1 (04:33):
Or films at home. I don't know a lot of
people that do that with books. But I think because
you have this experience reading scripts, you're like.

Speaker 2 (04:41):
I know this bad thing's going to happen.

Speaker 3 (04:43):
And like a script is like an hour time commitment. Yeah.
Love Wally Lamb. I'm like a huge fan of his
books and his writing. So I was like, it's not
like I'm not going to read the book.

Speaker 1 (04:51):
Yeah, I need you to clear something up for me,
because you mentioned that you like knitting, yes, and on
your Instagram it says that you're a big reader, but
you're also a knitter, a vegetarian, and a collector of jars.

Speaker 2 (05:06):
Yeah, what do you collect in the jars?

Speaker 3 (05:11):
The jars are being dealt with. My husband has started
making pickles, so the jars.

Speaker 2 (05:16):
But they were empty jars.

Speaker 3 (05:18):
I just would always like, yeah, like I love old things,
and I like old jars, and like I would use
them for vases or like old Mason jars. I mean,
now you can buy them in sets for your drinking glasses.
And it's like, I don't know, farmhouse chic or whatever,
but like I was doing it before they sold them
at Target in the Housewars section. No, I just liked

(05:41):
having I just liked having them around. I like to
keep food, leftovers things in them.

Speaker 1 (05:48):
Thank you for clearing that up. I really was thinking, like,
what could this be? Does she collect coins and jars?
So now I get it.

Speaker 3 (05:55):
It was literally just a bunch of empty jars. But yes,
the pickling is helping that too.

Speaker 1 (05:58):
I want to know about you as a very very
young woman because I imagine little Judy in the library
in Michigan reading.

Speaker 3 (06:07):
In my bedroom.

Speaker 2 (06:08):
Okay, tell me reading.

Speaker 3 (06:12):
I'm an only child, so I had well, we called
them babysitters. I guess they were nannies, but in the
Midwest that was just a babysitter. My parents would give
my babysitter one instruction, which was like, she has to
go outside and play. She's not allowed to sit in
her room and read all day.

Speaker 2 (06:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (06:26):
And I was really obsessed with the Sweet Valley High books. Yes,
those were awesome, were my favorites. So I was reading
through those like crazy, to the point where my dad
limited every other book could be Sweet Valley High. I
read through everything I could get my hands on, and
my parents would buy me and I started reading their
books on their shelves, which I had to keep secret

(06:48):
because they were naughty. But I was just reading everything
in the house.

Speaker 1 (06:54):
I'm going to ask you a deep question, but I
am really curious what books have given you throughout your life,
because it seems like they're this through line for you.

Speaker 2 (07:02):
You know, I.

Speaker 3 (07:03):
Had like a very lovely childhood. There wasn't I mean,
it was pretty nice in midwestern and middle class and sweet,
I guess. But so I think about people who really
find escape in books, which I certainly did, but not
out of necessity necessarily. I think it was like travel,

(07:24):
It was learning empathy. It was like getting out of
suburbs of Detroit, even if only through a story. Like
having friends, having family, having different experiences in different places.
I mean. Also, I spent so much time by myself,

(07:44):
being an only child and both my parents worked, and
I wouldn't trade it, but I just didn't have anyone around.
So books were like also like my playmate too, yeah,
your companion, Yeah, like my friends. And I've never I
mean I can't remember ever not having a book with me.

Speaker 1 (08:03):
Out of all of the characters that you've played, who
would be in your dream book club and who would
definitely not be invited.

Speaker 3 (08:12):
Well, it's okay. All the characters I've played, well, I
just watched a movie that I have coming out called
The Dead of Winter, and that woman, she's a very
sick woman. She's not invited.

Speaker 2 (08:27):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (08:29):
I played a character named Quinn in season two of
The Last Thing He Told Me, And she's really really smart.
She's way smarter than I am. So I would like
to have her come to the book club because I
would be curious. I bet she probably reads like a
lot of nonfiction Lucy from thirteen going on thirty, Tom Tom.

(08:49):
I think she would probably read a lot of Emily
Henry and then I think Aaron the Little file Clerk
from What Women Want?

Speaker 2 (09:00):
Oh, that was such a good one.

Speaker 3 (09:01):
Yeah, she probably would bring like the classics like Rebecca,
maybe some Jane Austen, and I think also Kitty Sanchez
from Arrested Development. Who the hell knows what she would
pick with that would be. It would be like a
train wreck in so fun.

Speaker 1 (09:20):
It does seem like you're reading a ton of fiction,
But I haven't seen you post a lot about horror books.

Speaker 3 (09:29):
I know. I think this is a really good segue.
I think I know where this is going. I read
every Stephen King book I could get my hands on
when I was a kid. Really Yeah, but I don't
consider myself a fan of horror.

Speaker 1 (09:47):
Wait, reading Stephen King as a young girl in Detroit is.

Speaker 2 (09:51):
Really an interesting choice.

Speaker 3 (09:53):
Yeah, but again, like I think, I read Carrie, and
I also feel like this was the first memory I
have of a book being also a movie. The thing
about his books is they're so well written that it

(10:13):
kind of defies genre to me.

Speaker 2 (10:15):
Yeah, that's interesting, I think.

Speaker 3 (10:17):
And I find that example with Wally Lamb as well,
Like I was not in the headspace to read that story,
but I couldn't put that book down because it's so
well written. And again I don't think of myself as
a horror fanatic, like certainly not in fiction, but like
when the writing is good, it doesn't matter, like it's

(10:40):
a great story. And also thinking about like this mind,
where where do these stories come from? I mean, one
of my number one all time favorite books is his
book on writing. It's like half memoir half sort of
how to be a writer. Which after I read that book,
by the way, I was like, I am not a writer.
I don't have what this guy has.

Speaker 2 (10:59):
What did he say, what did it take.

Speaker 3 (11:01):
All consuming have to get it out? I'll do anything
for it, Like.

Speaker 2 (11:07):
And you felt that way about acting.

Speaker 3 (11:08):
I think I do now. I mean I feel that
way about my choices now. But reading Stephen King talk
about his writing process and the beginning of his career
and like sitting in like a laundry room and every
morning at six am getting up and writing and thinking like, yeah,
that's a that's a writer. Like I can say, like
I want to be a writer, and I like can

(11:29):
dabble and like write a few things in my laptop.
But when I read that book, I was like, Nope,
because you know what you do. You do what you
want to.

Speaker 2 (11:36):
Do, You do what you want to do.

Speaker 3 (11:38):
I agree, And so clearly I don't want to do
that because I spend also a lot of time online shopping,
and like probably more time online shopping than I do writing.
So probably what I want is to be a shopper
or to be an owner of possessions that are sold online,
not jar charts.

Speaker 1 (12:04):
I could be projecting, but I do think that your
love of reading must be connected to your love of character. Yes,
because to me, you're like reading all these books and
probably studying in some way.

Speaker 3 (12:17):
Yeah. I just actually finished a book last night that
was like a gut punch nonfiction called Things in Nature
Merely Grow is a memoir this woman wrote about the
death of her sons, and that was a hard read
and it was a beautiful read. But I am filing

(12:41):
that away for characters, for thoughts, for ideas, for feelings
when I'm at work, and definitely, like when you get
to do a movie like The Long Walk, you get
hopefully like a way into the character. It's like cheating.
I don't have to necessarily do all that work myself,

(13:01):
but the author does it for me. But sometimes most
of the time I'm not doing something that is an adaptation,
so then I have to do that backstory stuff and
that's when reading really comes in handy, which also for
me feels like cheating because I like to do it. Anyway,
did you read.

Speaker 1 (13:16):
A bunch of horror leading up to filming The Long
Walk or did you just read the Stephen King book.

Speaker 3 (13:23):
I did read the actual book. I think I read
it before I even met with Francis Lawrence, the director.
I have my favorite lbs Chevalier on Larchmont Beulevard in
Los Angeles.

Speaker 2 (13:37):
Hi guys.

Speaker 3 (13:37):
Thank you.

Speaker 1 (13:39):
I love a shout out to an independent bookstore. Thank
you for that forever.

Speaker 2 (13:42):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (13:43):
Oh, you know what was cute about that? I don't
know if they did it, but they got me the book.
I went and picked it up and I was like,
they're making this movie, by the way, and they were like,
when's it going to come out? We should probably buy
enough copies because when the movie comes out, the book
will sell more. And I'm like, oh, I'll let you know.

Speaker 1 (13:59):
Too.

Speaker 2 (13:59):
Yeah, that's really cute.

Speaker 1 (14:01):
Okay, so this isn't your first Stephen King adaptation. I
know you were in Kerrie. I know. Are there any
keys or idiosyncrasies to bringing Stephen King to life on screen?

Speaker 3 (14:12):
Well, you better do it well because the fans little
inviscerate you if you don't. It's tricky. It's a big undertaking. Okay,
Like it's great because you have a built in audience
and like he's just so incredible, Like, don't you want
to make him happy? I hope I get to meet

(14:33):
him in this process. I haven't yet.

Speaker 2 (14:35):
Is there something you want to ask him or say?
In particular? You just want to feel his energy?

Speaker 3 (14:40):
Well, it's weird, like meeting someone just for the sake
of meeting them. I often I'm like, I don't know.
Like someone's like, oh, do you want to go backstage
at this concert? And I'm like why, Like what are
they like Shakira going to be like, oh my gosh,
let's be best friends. Like that's not going to happen.
Don't know why I said, Shakira.

Speaker 2 (14:56):
You don't know. Shakira may love Judy greer Ivan.

Speaker 3 (15:00):
Look, she should agreed, I anyway, even like Okay, So
tonight on my husband's TV show, he produces Real Time
with Bill Maher he does yeah, and Molli Jong Fast
is on his show and I read her bug.

Speaker 2 (15:17):
I think it was one of the best of the year. Dude,
it's so good. It's so good.

Speaker 1 (15:22):
And I didn't realize that her mother is also a
writer and a lot of the book is about her mom,
and so we have to read Erica Jong.

Speaker 3 (15:29):
Well, I know now I have to read Fear of
Flying because I didn't I would like pee. So yes.
I feel the same way about meeting Stephen King, like
I want to be Stephen King. But then I'm like
but then what yeah, then what I don't know.

Speaker 2 (15:42):
We have to come up with an epic question for
you to ask him.

Speaker 1 (15:44):
So when it comes to horror, I think, both in
books and in film, the topics of the horror of
the themes often mirror something that's happening in real life.
So like right now, I think a lot of it
is rich people behaving bad Zombies people say can represent

(16:05):
fears about societal breakdowns or loss of humanity. The Long
Walk was published in nineteen seventy nine, what about it
feels relevant today?

Speaker 3 (16:14):
So Stephen King wrote it in sort of response to
the Vietnam Wars what I found out on the internet,
which is always accurate. Also, things have changed considerably since
we shot it last year, so how I felt when
we were shooting it last year isn't totally relevant anymore.

(16:39):
Reading the book and watching the movie even I feel
like there's a different feeling, like I think watching the movie,
I got to see a screening of it. To me,
it felt so much more hopeful than I felt when
I read the book, Like somehow there was in the
midst of this kind of dystopian universe where this is acceptable,

(17:08):
there was so much like search for love, hope and
connection among these young men that I felt like is
this the echo of this generation, of this young generation.
I guess it's gen Z or what's the what's the
one after that? Even now, like are our kids looking

(17:32):
for a hope and a connection and a sense something
to be proud of, like how to be a patriot
when you don't know what you really believe in anymore?
I mean, the movie is intense. I'm not gonna lie.
It's not the trailer, yeah, and that's like two minutes long.

(17:53):
But if you listen and you're watching, and like, I
don't know, there's there's a line he says it where
he says choose love, and I was like, I just
can't stop thinking about him saying that. This character Pete
mcfreeze says it, and it's like, I don't remember if
that was in the book. I guess if I could

(18:13):
ask Stephen King something, if I get to meet him,
I want to ask him what he thinks about my
interpretation of the movie. That's a cool question because I
know that's probably not I know that's not what he
intended when he wrote the novel in seventy nine. But
maybe I'm also just like a lemonade kind of girl,
like a glass half full, because if I'm watching that

(18:36):
and I'm not thinking that, then it's a it's intense. Man.

Speaker 1 (18:40):
Yeah, that's actually not what I thought you were going
to say. That's really wonderful to hear. I don't know.
This is like a little bit of a silly question,
but you famously took a mug that says Poise magazine
from thirteen going on thirty. Did you take anything from
the set of this film?

Speaker 3 (18:59):
Okay, here's a thing that I'm not just saying that
because this is like a literary podcast. I usually steal
books from set.

Speaker 1 (19:06):
You do, But what kind of books? Like books that
are laying around like.

Speaker 3 (19:10):
They're books I want to read. Someone was like, oh, yeah,
we just buy these boxes and books by the pound
as like set dressing. And I'm like really, so like
it's not like, you know, like I'm stealing someone's book.

Speaker 2 (19:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (19:26):
Anyway, I've definitely been on TV shows where I've taken
a book and read it and returned it to the set.

Speaker 2 (19:33):
That is funny. I think that's stole from.

Speaker 3 (19:37):
The Walk Lion Skate. If you want my bra bag,
you know, I was really comfortable.

Speaker 2 (19:43):
It was a good bra.

Speaker 3 (19:44):
It was a really good bra and it's not an underwear,
but it's patted, and that's like kind of hard to find.

Speaker 1 (19:51):
It's really hard to find when I used to work
at E and I also stole a bra. So in
addition to being a big reader, you're also a writer.

Speaker 3 (20:10):
Oh, I did write a book.

Speaker 2 (20:11):
You're a journaler. You wrote a memoir.

Speaker 1 (20:14):
Back in twenty fourteen called I Don't Know Where You
Know Me From?

Speaker 2 (20:18):
Yes, iconic title.

Speaker 1 (20:20):
When did you know it was time to publish your
essay collection.

Speaker 3 (20:25):
When someone wanted to pay me to do it?

Speaker 2 (20:27):
Really?

Speaker 3 (20:28):
I have a great book agent. Her name is Kate Hoyt,
and I was going to play in New York and
she's New York based, and so she wanted to set
up a meeting with me. And she'd been like sort
of like looking through Instagram and like old interviews and
stuff like that, and she was like, I think you
have a book in you and I was like, oh
my gosh. And so she was like, well, just she

(20:51):
was like, just why don't you just read some books
like memoirs by actresses and like essay collections. Actually, really,
I sort of felt like I wanted to think of
it as an essay collection because I felt like I
was too young to like write a memoir. So I
started reading like I read, of course, like Bossy Pants
and like Mindy Kaling's books and like a bunch of them,

(21:11):
and I thought like, maybe I could do this, and
so then we decided I would write like a little treatment,
and then she edited my treatment and then we sent
it out for fun and away I went.

Speaker 2 (21:21):
Did you borrow any tricks from your favorite writers?

Speaker 3 (21:26):
No? I remember not writing that often. And one day
my husband was leaving for work and he was like,
what are you doing today? And I was like, oh,
I have Eron's and d da da da da, and
he was like, are you going to write? And I
was like, well, yeah, yeah, I'm gonna work in my book.
And he was like, you have to write your book.
Like I was so scared to write my book, you
know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (21:43):
It's terrifying.

Speaker 3 (21:44):
I had done this fifty page treatment, which I was
really proud of, and then I was just afraid, Like
I was afraid it would be bad and that I
would be bad and I wouldn't be able to do it,
and so I just kind of kept procrastinating. And of
course I have a deadline, so it's not like I
can do that forever. But he made a good point.
He was like, this is your job. Your job is
to write your book, and you have to do your job.

(22:06):
You have to go to work.

Speaker 2 (22:07):
And I was like, oh, stop being right deep, Yeah,
you go.

Speaker 3 (22:11):
To work anyway. And so I remember taking my laptop
to our favorite local bar at the time called Sunset
Terrace and Thousand Oaks, and I like sat there and
I just ordered diet cokes and caesar salads and French fries.
And I was no Stephen King, but I was much
better after I have my little lecture from my husband to.

Speaker 2 (22:32):
A good husband.

Speaker 1 (22:33):
Also, choosing to write at a bar over a coffee
shop is a choice. Yeah, we really wanted those caesar salads.
It's been a decade since since you published it. Are
there any chapters that you would add at this point?

Speaker 2 (22:48):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (22:50):
I mean I guess, like I mean, things are very
different now.

Speaker 2 (22:56):
You seem so despondent by my cos.

Speaker 3 (22:59):
I know because I was just fun about my answer,
which is probably about like being older and aging and
being a woman, and like, I'm so bored of that topic.

Speaker 2 (23:08):
Can I ask you about what you just said?

Speaker 1 (23:10):
Because the aging thing is interesting to me only because
and I don't know. Wait, well I hear, but it
was twenty years ago you did an interview with Cameron
Crowe and he asked you what role would be the
ultimate for you, and you said she shouldn't be married
or have children, and she would be so sad she
couldn't stop laughing. But it's not a story about her

(23:32):
trying to find love. It's about her trying to find herself.

Speaker 2 (23:35):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (23:36):
I remember very vividly that moment with Cameron.

Speaker 2 (23:40):
What an answer.

Speaker 3 (23:42):
Wow, that's a cool thing I said twenty years ago.

Speaker 2 (23:45):
Really cool to have on record.

Speaker 1 (23:47):
Yeah, I kind of feel like I watched the finale
of In Just like That last night, and I feel
like I'm going.

Speaker 3 (23:53):
To watch it tonight in their tiny kitchen.

Speaker 1 (23:57):
Okay, I think it should be required watch for all men.
But are all heterosexual men? But yes, I think that's
kind of what they were getting at. Okay, so you
were really ahead of your time.

Speaker 3 (24:11):
I mean there are these sort of benchmarks that my
generation like has and it's really hard. I remember my
guy to college is being like, are we going to
freeze your eggs? Like what's the plan? And I'm like,
I don't know, like I don't know, and having to
think about that and like having to have a conversation

(24:32):
and this has been talked about by every single person,
but like having to have a conversation on like a
third date with someone like do you want to have kids?
And like how off putting that is and how like
nobody I know, no woman I know wants to have
that conversation, Like no woman wants to have that conversation. Like, yes,
we have to ask it, or we should ask it,
but it's like just because we're asking it doesn't mean

(24:53):
we want to have it right or with you. Also, yeah,
like I don't know if I want your baby, but
I do kind of want to know if you're like hell,
no babies for me, Like okay, I mean those things
are like hammered into us when we turn thirty, you know,
And so I guess I have been thinking about it
for a long time because also like when I turned

(25:13):
thirty or when I was thirty, you know, we didn't
have like you weren't constantly staring at yourself all the time.
And that's not just because I'm an actress, it's all
of us. It's like you're always taking pictures of yourself.
You're always posting pictures of yourself. We're all making content
no matter who you are. You don't have to be
an influencer to be like making content.

Speaker 2 (25:33):
And everybody is. If you're a real litor, you're making content,
you better be.

Speaker 3 (25:37):
Those are the people that should be making a lot more. Yeah,
because before it was I didn't see myself as much
unless I was like, you know, happen to be like
watching someone's movie between the seats of an airplane and
I'd be like, oh, look there I am, Oh I
look good. Oh I should be a blonde again like that.
You know. Now it's just we're like inundated with ourself

(25:58):
all the time. All yeah, So you are just from
like even just a visual point of view, like seeing
how we're all aging. Is she doing it better than me?
What's she doing? What's she using?

Speaker 2 (26:10):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (26:10):
So one of my favorite things from your book is
that you say you can profile your fans. Oh yeah,
you know exactly where they know you from. So this
is going to be the one self indulgent part of
this interview. Where do I know you from?

Speaker 2 (26:24):
Judy?

Speaker 3 (26:25):
I mean, I'm going to go thirteen going on thirty,
But that was kind of easy.

Speaker 2 (26:31):
Yeah, I know, I think that's.

Speaker 3 (26:34):
Changing a little bit since I wrote my book.

Speaker 2 (26:36):
But tell me, what do you mean.

Speaker 3 (26:39):
I'm getting a lot more men with thirteen going on thirty,
like older men, and they claim it's like my wife
and my daughter watch it all the time. I'm like, Okay,
sure that's what she needs to tell me. But yes,
people are people are surprising me more and more, thank God.

Speaker 1 (27:00):
The first page of your memoir talks about your relationship
with fame, and it's so very Midwestern, which I love.
I'm wondering if your relationship with fame or even with
ambition has changed over the years.

Speaker 3 (27:20):
Well, Like, I don't think that my like my star
meter necessarily is much different than it was then. Maybe
I don't know. I feel a lot more like cozier
in my space than I probably did when I wrote
the book. Like I think I really understand what I

(27:44):
have to offer in a way right now, anyway, what
I have to offer right now in a way that
I probably didn't back then as much.

Speaker 2 (27:52):
Is there anything you can point to that helped you
get there?

Speaker 3 (27:57):
Just kind of working more and like spending more time
with people, like my time with like artists, actors and
directors and writers that I really respect and and sort
of just knowing myself a little bit more even, you know,

(28:17):
like I probably was. I have a different kind of
self esteem now than I probably did back then, and
like having to sort of like be your own like
hype person, you know. Like my friend I was just
talking to him about something the other day, about a project,
and he said, I think you've earned the right to

(28:38):
say no to some things for a little while, Judy,
and he's an actor, that he's my really good friend,
and I was like, I don't know what to do
and he said that, and I was like, it's weird.
It's like I thought I was working toward being able
to say yes to all this stuff, but maybe when
I was working toward was being able to say no
and not being terrified, like you know, the Midwestern work ethic,

(29:01):
like well who am I if I'm not working? And
if I'm not working, like why wouldn't I just do
the movie if I'm not working and I'm available and
it's there and they want me to be in it,
Like I should just do it right?

Speaker 2 (29:10):
And he knows what I'll learn or who ill meet.

Speaker 3 (29:12):
I always take something away from everything, like I have
a good experience and every job I do, and I
can see exactly why I should have been there and
why I should have been doing it at that time.
But I also thought that was like a really kind
of like lovely gift he gave me when he told
me that because I was, like, I also earned the
right to like like enjoy my life and create like

(29:33):
space for other projects, other experiences, like travel, Like I've
been working with this organization that I really love and
I've been traveling with them, and like being able to
kind of be a global ambassador and meet people that
do actual like they actually like save the world, and

(29:55):
that I would be able to do without like a
my career up till now. But also so if I
just filled my.

Speaker 1 (30:01):
Days all the time working towards saying no, it is
so interesting.

Speaker 2 (30:06):
That's a good reframe.

Speaker 3 (30:07):
So heavy.

Speaker 1 (30:09):
I want to ask you about female friendships in film.
Did you watch White Lotus? Yes, so the Carrie Coons monologue. Yeah,
I have it written down just in case, but you
know it.

Speaker 3 (30:24):
Yeah, but will you read it or she says something
about I'm just happy to have a seat at the table.

Speaker 2 (30:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (30:30):
At the end, she says I'm glad you have a
beautiful face, and I'm glad that you have a beautiful life,
and I'm just happy to be at the table.

Speaker 2 (30:36):
I love you.

Speaker 3 (30:37):
That was a rough one.

Speaker 1 (30:39):
It kind of split the internet. Really, Yeah, I'm curious
your take on it.

Speaker 3 (30:47):
Well, it's made by her performance because I don't really
know how that character felt, and I think it happened
at such an interesting time in their day dynamic. And
I was like, I'm always excited when there's like a
good female dynamic because I'm always like wanting my husband

(31:08):
to watch it to be like, this is what it's like,
this is what it's like. You need to watch this
because I can just watch like a chicken wing commercial
and understand his dynamic with his friends. But like I'm like, oh,
the Cantley commercials, what it's like with your friends. Yeah,
let's talk more about it. I'm like, you need to

(31:30):
watch these three movies to understand the conversation I had
yesterday on the phone.

Speaker 2 (31:34):
You need to watch this twelve episode dark.

Speaker 4 (31:38):
I mean truth, It's like you have to to understand
like the levels of female friendship. So I loved that monologue.
I loved how it was performed.

Speaker 3 (31:53):
And I think that depending on the day and time
I watched it, so it doesn't surprise me it broke
the internet. But also like what people are like either
they think it is like beautiful and true or that
it was like a lie and that she didn't mean it.

Speaker 1 (32:11):
You've worked with so many legendary actors in the industry.

Speaker 2 (32:15):
I want to know who gives the best book Rex.

Speaker 3 (32:18):
Emma Thompson Really yeah, we shot a movie a year ago.
We basically just had like a book club between her daughter,
Guya Wise, the actress Laurel Marsden who's in the movie.
Well Guy and Laurel in the movie, and me and
Emma Thompson. The four of us had just like we
just had like a pile of books that we just

(32:39):
kept circulating between us. So fun. And there was one
day where Emma and I went to a bookstore. We
were finishing the movie in Brussels, and we went to
this bookstore and like we wanted to buy each other books,
and so like I was like what about this one?
And she was like I read it. I was like,
oh what about this one? I read it? And she
ended up buying me like five books and there was
only like one I could buy her that she hadn't

(33:01):
already read.

Speaker 1 (33:01):
I was like, Oh, is there somebody that we would
be surprised to know is a big reader?

Speaker 3 (33:06):
Owen Wilson Really how cool? Yeah? He reads constantly or
a lot actually, and he always was asking me for
book recommendations, what we text about books, and that surprised me.

Speaker 2 (33:25):
Thank you for that. That's cool.

Speaker 3 (33:27):
I hope it's okay I said that. But yeah, I
mean it's cool to be a reader.

Speaker 2 (33:32):
I agree.

Speaker 3 (33:32):
I mean it wasn't when I was little.

Speaker 2 (33:35):
Now, same book talk made it cool. And book club,
I think, thank you, thank you, TikTok. What's on your
fall reading list?

Speaker 3 (33:46):
Ooh, good question. I just bought the Book of Alchemy,
and then I bought Audition at Godmother's. I was driving
up to Manacito and stopped there. I bought I'm excited
about that. I got a signed copy, not to me,
but it was signed by the author, which I'm always

(34:08):
excited about. And I also saw a picture of Dorian
Gray on Broadway when Sarah Snook was doing it and
it blew me away. And so I bought that book.
But I bought it in the summertime, and it felt
more like a fall rate, so I've been saving it.
And then when I was I was shooting the last

(34:28):
thing you told me in Paris, and I went, of course,
to Shakespeare and Company. I didn't buy a toe bag
because I'm not twenty four, but I see girls walking
around with the little Shakespeare Company campus totes, and I'm like, oh,
I really want one of those, but I feel like
I'm too old.

Speaker 2 (34:47):
I think you can do it.

Speaker 3 (34:49):
What one did I buy? The Oh? I bought Rebecca there,
which I'm excited. So like I feel like fall I'd
like to revisit some of the classics.

Speaker 2 (34:57):
I like that.

Speaker 1 (34:58):
Okay, we're coming up on end of our conversation, which
means it's time for the speed read.

Speaker 2 (35:04):
Okay, So here's how it works.

Speaker 1 (35:06):
We put sixty seconds on the clock and we're going
to see how many rapid fire literary questions you can
get through.

Speaker 2 (35:12):
Okay, are you ready?

Speaker 3 (35:14):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (35:14):
Three? Two? What's one literary trope you would ban forever?

Speaker 3 (35:19):
Can I say? My husband's that the creative outcast boy draws.

Speaker 2 (35:26):
Sorry Dean? Okay, One that you'll defend with.

Speaker 1 (35:28):
Your life, opposites a tract, favorite literary sidekick.

Speaker 3 (35:33):
Oh my dog Mary Richards. That's my favorite literary side Garth.

Speaker 1 (35:38):
Yeah, okay, your favorite literary female friendship the.

Speaker 3 (35:41):
Mom and the Goldfinch. But she wasn't It wasn't a
female friendship. But I liked her relationship with the lead
character who's yame? I can't remember?

Speaker 2 (35:51):
That counts.

Speaker 1 (35:52):
If you could adapt any novel for the screen and
star in it, what would it be and what role
would you play?

Speaker 3 (35:58):
The Wife and the Beast.

Speaker 2 (36:00):
Favorite book to recommend?

Speaker 3 (36:02):
Oh, lately, I usually recommend Demon Copperhead.

Speaker 2 (36:06):
Okay, what book do you wish you could read for
the first time again?

Speaker 3 (36:10):
Middlesex by Jeffrey Hugenneties. I love that book.

Speaker 1 (36:14):
What's the best book you've never read? Like, I've never
read Pride and Prejudice Me neither.

Speaker 3 (36:25):
That's the best book we've never read.

Speaker 1 (36:29):
I love to close each episode by sharing something that
you've bookmarked this week.

Speaker 2 (36:34):
It could be oh, oh, you know, okay, I don't
even have to finish.

Speaker 3 (36:38):
Sorry, no kind of listen to your podcast, so I sort.

Speaker 2 (36:41):
Of thanks for listening to the podcast.

Speaker 3 (36:43):
I thought you probably would ask me this question, and
I have been reading. I have a lot of feelings
about Substack. Okay, what are the feelings first, what's I
don't think we have time for all my feelings about Substack.
That being said, I do like it. And there's one
I follow called Milkfed, okay, and it's literary. She talks
a lot about books and stuff, but I read this

(37:04):
in milk Fed on Substack and she talks about messy
handwriting and she says, not every sentence is meant to
be read. Some things are only meant to be written hurried, looped, illegible,
but full of feeling the opposite of esthetic. And it
really was like all these little signs to get back
into journaling, And I thought what she said about writing

(37:28):
in general is so beautiful, and like looking back on
all my old journals which I had to look through
when I was writing my book, like they weren't necessarily
for future Judy, they were for that moment, Judy, and
they were like meant to get those things out of
my head in that way. And I thought, like, of

(37:49):
because everything now feels like it has to be content,
And I think that's where I got stuck, was like,
am I writing something that then I could use to
do a new book out of? Like? Is that what
this is? Is that where this is going and and
so this like idea of like writing things that aren't
meant to be read and just getting back to writing again.
I was really moved, and so I copy and pasted it.

(38:10):
And when I thought you were going to ask me
that question, I was like, what am I going to say?
Like what she says on my tailor's with coffee mug like,
but it was that I was like, Oh, the last
thing I bookmarked was that.

Speaker 2 (38:22):
That is really beautiful. Thank you for sharing that.

Speaker 3 (38:24):
Yeah, sure, I'm glad I got to read it out
loud again.

Speaker 1 (38:29):
The writing is so beautiful with the you can feel it. Yeah, yeah, right.
You and your husband must have the most interesting conversations
at home because this is a podcast about books, So hi,
I had to kind of stay on topic. Yeah, but
I really am dying to hear your takes on so
many things.

Speaker 3 (38:47):
Well, you'd have to hear his and mine because they're
very different. And he's really interesting and smart and funny
and uh are you well? Thank you? Yeah, but it's
really fun to have his perspective.

Speaker 2 (39:03):
You guys are a fun double date. We have good
double date, we do for sure, Judy, thank you.

Speaker 3 (39:11):
Thanks for having me. This was so fun.

Speaker 2 (39:13):
You are so fun. My cheeks hurt. You're so fun.

Speaker 3 (39:15):
Oh good. I really could talk about books and stuff
like that forever. So if you're ever in a pension,
you need another.

Speaker 1 (39:21):
Guess Yeah, And if you want a little bit more
from us, come hang with us on socials. We're at
Reese's book Club on Instagram, serving up books, vibes and
behind the scenes magic. And I'm at Danielle Robe Roba
y come say hi and.

Speaker 2 (39:38):
Df me And if you want to go nineties on us,
call us.

Speaker 1 (39:43):
Okay, our phone line is open, so call now at
one five zero one two nine one three three seven nine.
That's one five oh one two nine one three three
seven nine. Share your literary hot takes, recommendations, questions about
the monthly pick, or let us know what you think

(40:04):
about the episode you just heard. And who knows, you
might just hear yourself in our next episode, so don't
be shy. Give us a ring, and of course, make
sure to follow Bookmarked by Reese's book Club on the
iHeartRadio app, Apple podcast, or wherever you get your shows.

Speaker 2 (40:21):
Until then, see you in the next chapter.

Speaker 1 (40:24):
Bookmarked is a production of Hello Sunshine and iHeart Podcast
It's executive produced by Reese Witherspoon and me Danielle Robe.
Production is by ACAST Creative Studios. Our producers are Matty Foley,
Britney Martinez, Sarah Schleid, and Darby Masters.

Speaker 2 (40:41):
Our production assistant is Avery Loftis.

Speaker 1 (40:44):
Jenny Kaplan and Emily Rutterer are the executive producers for
a Cast Creative Studios. Maureene Polo and Reese Witherspoon are
the executive producers for Hello, Sunshine, Oga, Caminwa. Kristin Perla
and Ashley Rappaport are associate producers for Reese's Book Club.
Ali Perry and Lauren Hansen are the executive producers for
iHeart Podcasts, and Tim Palazola is our showrunner.
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