30 More Days Of Lockdown

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Speaker 1 (00:03):
You are entering the freedom hunt. It's Monday, March three eighth.
We are in week two of quarantine. The President has
an update for how long these measures should be continued.
I'll share that with you. Plus the arrival of a

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US Navy ship here in New York City preparing for
the deluge of cases to come in the weeks ahead,
and how does China factor into all this, plus the
politics around the coronavirus fight coming up on the Buck
Sexton Show. This is the bus Sexton Show, where the
mission or mission is to decode what really matters with

(00:44):
actionable intelligence. Make no mistake. Here a great American again,
the Buck Sexton Show begins. He's a great guy. No, yeah,
I don't want high approval ratings for this. I wish

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we could have our old life back. We had the
greatest economy that we've ever had, and we didn't have deaths.
We didn't have this, We didn't have this horrible scourge,
this plague, you call it whatever you want, the virus.
But we're working very hard. This all I know. You know,
I see things, I see numbers. They don't matter to me.

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What matters to me is that we have a victory
over this thing as soon as possible. When you hear
that two point two million people could have died if
we didn't go through all of this, and now the
number will be, you know, a much lower number. Hopefully
it's going to be the numbers that we're talking about.
But so I appreciate it very much. But you know
what I want is I want our life back again.

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I want our country back. I want the world back.
I want the world to get rid of this this again.
One hundred and fifty one countries and we're gonna do it.
We're gonna have a great victory. Welcome to the box,
Sex and share everybody from here in New York City
to you all across the country and around the world.
The President giving voice to exactly what so many of
us are thinking right now. We want our lives back,

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we want our country back, we want our world back.
And this virus has now shown people that it is
much more than was anticipated a couple of months ago.
The response to it is going to be a point
of difficulty and pain for a lot of people. And
what the economic ramivocations of this may be, nobody can

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tell you yet. But we now are in it. We
are in this fight that really the last few weeks
it felt like preparation for here we are now trying
to establish all the supplies we need, the protocols and
the best possible practices for defeating a pandemic. That still

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stunning that we're at this point right now, and it's
also a reminder of really how petty and how unserious
to so many of the political squabbles of the past
have been. Here we are desperately trying to come together
to create enough masks and ventilators, get all this personal
protective equipment in place. Here we are doing here, we

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are doing everything in our power to try and find
a way forward that saves the maximum amount of lives,
while also trying to maintain some economic activity going forward,
or at least the ability to have an economy, because
lives also are quite clearly dependent upon that. Anyone who

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doesn't think so should stop and ask will hold on
a second, If a shortage of ventilators is going to
cause death, where do the ventilators come from? We need
economic activity in this country, and the President certainly understands that.
But I must say yesterday at his press conference, it

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was quite clear that there has been a change in
thinking from this administration to straight up lockdown. That's where
we are. We are in the national battened down the
hatches phase of this fight. The President had to tell
everybody that the member I had been telling you that

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fifteen days, fifteen days to stop the spread. That was
the initial campaign, and we should give him the fifteen days. Well,
we've done that. We've gotten to week two of that.
And instead of thinking that we're anywhere near being finished,
what we have been told is the following. This was
the President yesterday, Bruce and Mark Plick Clip four. The

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modeling estimates that the peak in death rate is likely
to hit in two weeks. So I'll say it again,
the peak, the highest point of remember this is likely
to hit in two weeks. Nothing would be worse than
declaring victory before the victory is one that would be

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the greatest loss of all. Therefore, the next two weeks
and during this period, it's very important that every one
strongly follow the guidelines, have to follow the guidelines that
our great Vice President holds up a lot. He's holding
that up a lot. He believes in it so strongly.
The better you do, the faster this whole nightmare will end. Therefore,

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we will be extending our guidelines to April thirtieth to
slow the spread. We are on quarantine here in New
York City and other cities as well. We are putting
in place maximum protective measures for another thirty days. Effectively,

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that's where we're going to be. It's not going to
be made before you even have some restoration of normal
economic activity. It's going to be quite a while before
we see ourselves able to start to breathe more easily.
Pardon the expression, this was a tough one. Now, the
market didn't really react very negatively negatively to this today,

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I think in part because the expectation is at the rescue,
the two trillion dollar rescue package is going to be
able to sustain the economy with all of the direct
cash infusions as well as these loans for small businesses,
that it'll sustain the economy for at least three or

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four months, more or less. We'll see if that's correct.
Remember that no one's ever done this before. There is
no playbook for putting an economy at a deep freeze.
There's no precedent for a society as large as ours,
with the complexity that ours has, of telling people that

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they have to stay at home, and in New York
it's getting particularly extreme. I'll bring you into Look, I
understand this is a show that many of you all
across the country here, but New York is the worst
hit place in the entire country right now with this,
and what you're seeing here is going to be replicated elsewhere,

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the spread of the disease, the fight now it perhaps
the aggregate numbers here will be larger, but keep in
mind that the hospital system here, the hospital system here
is also larger and more complicated than what you would have,
more complex than what you would have in a vast
majority probably all other metro marias in the country, just
because of the size of New York City itself. So

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the President said, look, give us until the end of April.
Give us until the end of April to get this
thing as under control as we can, and then we'll
look to start to have more normal economic activity. I
guess now we are really in the government's hands here
in a way that makes me deeply uncomfortable. I'm sure

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many of you feel exactly the same way. There's that
I have two conflicting emotions about the government response. On
the one hand. I want to be optimistic and I
want to be cheerful about their prospects for long term success.
I mean, there's nothing you can't be cheerful now, it's
it's bleak out there, my friends. But be optimistic, better word,

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about the long term possibilities here, and I'm hoping for
the best from our government response. I'm also seeing a
combination of incompetence and dictatorial impulse from the people that
are in charge, specifically here in the Mayor of New
York City, but you'll see this elsewhere too. This is

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going to be a stress test on our society and
on us, the likes of which we have never seen before,
this disease. At this point, based on what I'm hearing,
and I've spoken to numerous doctors who are dealing with
this problem themselves, and what they're telling me is this
is I thought it was going to be bad. Really

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the last three weeks, I've realized that this is going
to be We're in for a real nightmare here. It's
the disease itself is worse than I had anticipated. I mean,
I'm not a healthcare expert. I all I can do
is read what I read, read what I see. Everyone
reads what they read, but I am seeing now that

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this is even a level beyond and there are younger,
healthier people, people in their forties and fifties, who are
needing to go in for emergency care and get intubated
on this. So look, you don't come here so that
I can tell you, oh my gosh, the sky is
falling and it's not. We're gonna be all right. As
I've been saying, we will get through this. As a country.

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We certainly have better days ahead. And I think that
while we're preparing for this and trying to look at
all the most up to date information we can, it's
worth remembering that there will be there will be a
renewed sense that perhaps for you it might even start today,
an appreciation for the lives that we have been able

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to lead in this country up to this point, and
a renewed appreciation down the line once we can return
to some degree of normalcy for really what we have.
I spent much of my time the first three years
of the Trump presidency on air, a lot of the time,
but I repeatedly said to you all, don't listen to
the people in the media. They're talking about all this
enjoy your life. You know this, who listen to the
show said, enjoy where we are. Unbelievable prosperity, relative peace,

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no major terrorist attacks looming over our heads, no economic catastrophe.
All those things were true until year four. And as
we enter year four the Trump presidency, he got hit.
And this is the toughest thing that any American president
has been hit with since Pearl Harbor. Honestly, this is

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the most And some of you would say, well, in
some ways, maybe even the Great Depression was a bigger
challenge than Pearl Harbor itself. We're gonna win, but I'm
just saying, you have to go back. This is one
hundred year challenge we're facing right now. Once every hundred
years of society like ours faces something like this. Now.
I do take a positive, long term view. I will

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continue to do that. We have a lot to get
through here today. I've talked to doctors about the prospects
of these different drugs. The Gilead anti viral drug, the
drug that's actually used to treat gout. It's been around
for a very long time, an old drug up in Montreal.
There's also chloroquin and a zithromycin there's serology tests to

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look at your blood and see if you have anybodies.
There's a lot of new weapons, just like in any war.
I mean, those of you who are history buffs. No,
if you go back to the First World War, Second
World War, the speed of munition development during a war,
it's like nothing else because there's a really obvious and
immediate need for better weapons. We are going to see that,

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I believe, with this disease, we are going to see
a weaponization of the medical community's knowledge against this virus
at an unprecedented pace. And it's necessary because this virus
is even more contagious and nasty and dangerous than a
vast majority of people who are following it anticipated. This

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thing is. This is bad. It's so bad that you
start to wonder this really just occurred naturally in nature.
This wasn't anything that any human beings anywhere around the
world perhaps had any hand in messing with. Again, I
don't know, but it's a question. We have to leave

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open the possibility until we really know what happened here.
I feel like we have to leave open a lot
of possibilities. We've been lied to a lot. We're being
lied to you right now by the Chinese government. Every
day they're saying they have no new cases. We'll get
to that. But on the upside here, as I've been saying,
you will appreciate your life more than you ever have,
and we are through this. I think that's my belief.

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I certainly will. I'll appreciate little things about life. And
there's also a closest now that you feel with the
people that you love. There's a recognition we are all
We've always been on borrowed time. Now we know we're
on borrowed time. Now we've been reminded in this era,
we're all trying to extend youth, you know, into the

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end of a century of our own lifespan. Right, we'll
all think we're going to live forever and ever and
be healthy forever and ever. And you know that lessons
a little bit as you get older. But now you
know these people that in their twenties and their thirties
thinking about mortality, thinking about societal collapse, that just never
really enters your mind. It doesn't really come up. And
we see that all societies have dealt with this stretching

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back for all of human history, pestilence, plague, this has
been around for as long as we've been gathering, since
we came out of the caves and came together and
started farming and having something that we would call now
a society. So this is not new in that sense
at all. But this particular virus reminds us that we
can all walk around with supercomputers in our pockets that
we call smartphones, with instantaneous computation, with technology, with communications

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that seem like they're from an alien race compared to
what we would have had even forty or fifty years ago.
And yet someone somewhere becoming infected with something you can't
even see has brought modern society to this point where
we are in a real fight. We're in a fight
the likes of which we've never seen before. As I

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said to you, this is a once in a hundred
years challenge, and you know, it really does take us back.
There's nothing like this that we have faced in one
concentrated dose. Yes, the Cold War nuclear weapons staring at
each other across the line of mutually assured destruction and
all that, but that was long and drawn out, and
there was always in the back of our minds some
sense that you can deal with human beings human beings,

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you can understand even if they don't have remorse, if
they don't have any sense of decency, which is usually
not the case. They all have weak points, right the
immortal words of Schwarzenegger and Predator. If it bleeds, we
can kill it. Viruses don't bleed, we do. And so
we are at a disadvantage in that respect, and we

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are mobilizing our society against something that has the ability,
unfortunately to hit us now and come back and hit
us again in the future. This will change us forever.
I'll be thinking more in the weeks ahead as we
do this show, and this show really has become a
lifeline for my sense of connection and quite honestly a

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continued stability and sanity in the midst of being in
quarantine in New York City. But this will also change us.
This whole process we're going through, we're seeing right now
of dealing with this virus will change society in ways
that nobody can really anticipate the part of it. I
think at an individual level, there'll be a lot of
lessons learned from this that you can view as growth,

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as positive, you know, assuming we get through this without
horrific levels of casualties. We're going to have a lot
of loss of life, which is terrible and deeply regrettable
in every sense. But there'll be individuals, I think, who
come out of this with a different view of what
really matters. The part of me that is most concerned
is for the structure as we have in place in

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terms of long term threat. And we will beat this virus.
Maybe we'll beat in eighteen months, but we will beat it.
But what does the government look like, what does our
economy look like? What does America and the world look
like in eighteen months. I can't begin to tell you
that I know the answer, but I'm going to be
sharing thoughts with you as we go ahead. Here, you're
in the Freedom und This is the Buck Sexton Show podcast.

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We're all in this together, all of us. I have
never seen anything like it. The unity, the spirit of cord,
the spirit. I've never seen anything like it. It's a
beautiful thing to watch. Unfortunately, the enemy is death. It's death.
A lot of people are dying, so it's very unpleasant.
It's a very unpleasant thing to go through. But the

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level of competence, the level of caring, the level of love,
I just think it's brilliant, and it's possibly happening, happening
in other countries. Possibly, I don't know. I can't speak
to other countries, but I can speak to the United
States of America. And I've said it before and I'll
say it again. I am very proud to be your president.
He knows how serious this is for anybody who was

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doubtful before. And I understand there is certainly a lack
of trust, and there should be a lack of trust
in our national news media. When this is all through
and done with, I hope people realize that these media,
these media brands that pretend to be objective journalists, it's
not just a function of I don't like them because
of their politics and their dishonesty. It's that they have
done a massive disservice by lighting their credibility on fire.

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We needed a media going into this that we could trust.
We needed a media where and they came. They came
on TV and they said to the American people, Hey,
forget about Trump for a second. This is real. Here's
the information I want to give you on this. Some
people did this. I'm not saying whenever I talk with
the media, there's obviously exceptions. There are some individuals, some
networks network that were more willing to just bring the

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American people facts and information. But by and large, our
media let us down at a point of absolute crisis,
where information was the difference between life and death. They'd
rather play games and throw food at Donald Trump. Thanks
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more positive It's always trying to question to you as
you get you, and you know what, that's why nobody
trusts the media anymore. How's that going to you? Didn't
hear me? That's why you used to work for the
Times and now you work for somebody else. Look, let
me tell you something. Be nice. Be nice. This was
what the press reporter on more than anything else. While

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the President of the United States yesterday is telling us
that we all basically have to be on lockdown for
thirty days, that we have to be on lockdown, that
people cannot go and do their jobs, cannot go about
their lines for another month. We are losing a half
a quarter built in now a half a quarter of

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economic activity in GDP. Now, I know when we start
talking about these things, you start talking about what the
economic impact of this will be long term. You have
a lot of individuals who say, you're you're you know,
you're throwing granny off the cliff, You're killing old people,
You're so hardless. No, I want us to be in
the best position possible as a country to say the

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maximum number of lives and have the maximum number of decent,
decent conditions for life in this country. The amount of
the loss of life that could start to happen if
we have real decay, forget about decay that's too slow,
collapse of civil society, and what happens in the streets.

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I mean, I can tell you this, and I'm going
to be coming in and out on what I'm seeing
here in New York. You know, there's some positives and
there's some some real downsides. But first let me go
back to before I give you my New York centric
view of this. I mean, I can see a lot
of Midtown and I can basically see Times Square from

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my window. Now, a lot of you have a pretty
good sense of where I am in the city. But
you know, I'm I'm close enough to the very heart
of things that I have a particular, a true perspective
and view on exactly what's going on in the busiest
part of the whole city. But I'll get back that first.
Let me just say that this exchange yet with Yami
Yai or Yamish, I'm not trying to be funny. I

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actually forget how to pronounce her name. I think it's
I think it's Yamish. So she's a journalist and her
name was trending on Twitter. It's y am I. So
I'm not trying to again, not making jokes here, I
just don't know how to pronounce her name. But she
got into this exchange with the president, and you had

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all these people who were saying journalists out there who
while I'm sitting here wondering, and you know, I talked
to a doctor this morning. I'm talking to you, doctor,
friends of mine, as often as I can to get
as much information as I can, because this isn't my area. Mean,
after nine eleven, I went off the CIA, and really
our main, our main national security threat, our effort was

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against radical radical Islamic terrorism around the world. We had
two wars with this and this became an area that
I knew. I had expertise. I knew how much we
had to worry about different terrorist groups, and I had
an understanding that other people didn't. And I also knew
what information the US can I was just I was
a worker b but I knew what information the top

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people in the US government were making their determinations off
of because I was seeing it too with this with coronavirus. Uh.
You know, this is not an area where I can
tell you anything other than I'm just researching and learning
as fast as I can, as furiously as I can,
every single day, and I'm trying to bring you the
most valuable information with some context that I can, and

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also doing making my best efforts to be Look, I'm
never going to be at not political. It's just not
who I am when it comes to the way I
view things. I'm honest with you about my sense of
reality and life and politics and everything else. But I'm
trying to make this really about defeating the virus as
much as I can, and less about the nasty and

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often pointless back and forth with the left and the right.
But the way that journalists who have the opportunity to
go directly to the source and ask the president during
these press conferences, the way that they go after him
day after day, what do they really think they are
doing here that is worthwhile? And how can they be

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so petty and so immature and irresponsible that they think
that this is a good way to spend their time.
You know, this Yamish talking to the president. You know,
yesterday they I stand with Yamish or there was some
kind of a hashtag about how as if this is

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an important thing that was going on. Look, I think
the president, Yeah, should he lose his temper with journalists?
I mean and under other circumstances, probably not, because I
didn't really think the president is able to get a
moment's peace right now. It doesn't even think that he's
a human being who also is tired, who's worried about
family members, who's worried about his own health. The Prime

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Minister of the UK has COVID nineteen. Now, we we
haven't yet seen any evidence that no matter, you could
probably have the best medical care into the world right now,
and there's no evidence to prove that if your immune system,
because of age or other reasons, is not up for
the fight, there's not that much they can do for you.

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So everybody's worried. Everybody's worried. People particularly in the high
risk category, are worried about this. But instead of just
focusing in on getting people the information that we all
want to have right now, that we all know we
need to have so that we can better take care
of each other and of ourselves, journalists want to play games,

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and they're all doing this thing where they're saying that
that this is necessary because Trumps has boxed this response
so badly. This is going to turn into a huge
vicious political back and forth, especially because we have an
election in the fall, as you know, and we may
end up having something more like The New York Times
what a piece in this today. I've been thinking it

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for a while in Britain for the Prime Minister that
they have a six week condensed election schedule. We're going
to have a condensed election schedule because you can't do
the rallies. You can't do and it's in that sense
it's really not a fair you know, if Russia interfered
in the last election, the virus is going to have
interfered in this election. There's no question about it. We're
not going to have a normal I'm talking about process wise,

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never mind just current events. We're not going to have
a normal process. I think that's clear at this point.
And there's going to be a lot of calls and
a lot of information, a lot of effort to try
to make this even more easy, and probably people are
going to want to do mail in ballots, vote online. Anyway,
I'm getting it a little ahead of myself with that.

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Trump is trying to get the media to be a
little bit more positive, a little bit less nasty, because
people are scared right now, and fear leads to bad decisions.
I mean, I'll tell you this. A week ago, I
was thinking about how if we keep doing this, we're
heading for a great depression. Now the administration is saying, Okay,
I don't think we're going to hit a great depression.
We've got this covered for a while. Do I believe them?
Not really? But am I willing to at least now

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say Okay, they're making the calls. I've made, I've made
my case, I've made my piece. You know, the liberal
journalists out there who view this all through a political
lens and can't even can't tone it down, can't tone
it down even a little bit. I think that they honestly,
they're they've kind of lost it. They've lost it for

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a long time when it comes to covering this president
and when it comes to what we see here with
the way that they'll ask them questions in public, and
then they'll talk about how they're on the front lines
of covering this Oh, there are journalists who are taking risks,
all right, I really need to not hear that right now,
because we have medical staff taking risks all across the country.

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You have pediatricians who have to take COVID nineteen precautions
for every patient I'm not even talking about in hospitals,
just in practice anywhere, for every patient they see, knowing
that they may be exposed to not just the kid,
but also the parents coming in. Infection. Viral load matters,
the degree of the virus that you are exposed to,

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from what I understand from an immunological standpoint, matters, and
people on the front lines are taking in that sense,
the most risk, the healthcare providers, but also people that
are working in grocery stores and the people that are
out there are those in the logistics realm who are
keeping all this stuff going and I really, you know,
I thank one of the guys who make sure that
the you know, the heat and the electricity is on

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my building. Today I saw him in my lobby here
in New York, and I said, I just want to say, man,
thank you for coming to work. And he kind of
nodded his head a little bit and he appreciated it.
But I could also tell he's worried. He's worried, and
every time I go outside my home and go walk
around the streets, I'll tell you what that looks like.
But I have a very different so you have to

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excuse me if I sound a little bit more concern
today than I ever have one. I think the numbers
justify the escalating concern. So there's that just from a
data perspective, but also there's I'm seeing it now. I
see what's going on, and I've talked to people who
are also having firsthand experience with this, and I'm in

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the worst place. I'm in the worst place. So think
of it as though I'm doing a radio show for
you now, and it's like my city is being hit
with a hurricane and we're still in the middle of
the hurricane, and there's a really serious consideration that this
hurricane is going to hit a lot of other cities
right after it hits this one. If you, if you
put my comments today, I think into that context. Now

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a lot of you are Look if you're in rural
Iowa or you know, or you're in you know, like
I said, West Texas, or you're in you know, Utah
outside of Salt Lake City, somewhere, you're outside of Portland,
you know, maybe an hour's drive. Yeah, you're probably going
to be fine in terms of your exposure to the virus,
or I should say, it's unlikely that you'll come into

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a lot of people who have infected have been infected
with this virus. But if you live in a city,
I mean New Orleans, is it just breaks my heart.
I love New Orleans. It's just a it's a magical
and I mean there's just something so special and so
cool about it in so many ways. New Orleans is
getting hit really badly right now. Miami, another place I

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love to visit, getting hit really badly. You know other
cities that I you know, I just I can't even
name them off top of my head. Detroit's in bad shape.
It's gonna get worse. So it's gonna happen elsewhere too,
and understand that the government is making decisions based upon
what they're seeing happening in these cities. Right now, I
just like to see there's an opportunity here, and I'm

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going to try to be self assessing as I go
through this. I mean, I've told you that this virus
it's worse than I thought I was bad a month ago.
It's worse than I thought it would be. It's worse
than I thought I would be. I'm gonna try to
self assess as I go through this, because I'm just
coming to this like all of you, as somebody who
approaches it with an eye to up as much information

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as possible, learning as much as I can, making the
best decisions I can, and pushing for the smartest policy
for the most people. There are no perfect answers here.
There's no perfect policy. You're going to see, for example,
that those who were saying just send everybody home, shut
down the school, send everybody home. There was a spike
in infections. I can almost guarantee you the data will

(30:22):
prove this. They've seen it elsewhere. They have, from what
I understand right now, already shown this to be the
case in some parts of northern Italy. Sending the young
people home to quarantine with older relatives was an enormous miscalculation,
an enormous mistake that is likely to be one that
we revisit. So, you know, people are making good faith

(30:44):
errors here and trying to calculate what are sound policies
that mitigate risk properly versus what allows us to have
an economy so that we still have doctors getting paid
and assembly lines making masks in this country, along with
keeping food on the shelves and preventing there from being riots.
And you know, there's a lot of moving pieces here.

(31:06):
And I just also appreciate so much that all of
you are joining me still every day. And I mean,
we can tell that this audience is still tuning in
stn't want to know what's going on. I think a
lot of what you're seeing, unfortunately on cable news is
just filler at this point, a lot of repetition. You know,
they're interviewing the same people. I don't know why everyone
wants to interview someone who's already been in a press

(31:28):
conference for two hours asking questions. I think that that's
at some point that just becomes repetitive, and I think
the information value of that is less than some seem
to think it is. But nonetheless it's it's it's troubling
for me to see what's going on here, and also
the lack of a willingness to put aside the partisan

(31:50):
hatchet just for a moment. Well, this country, at least
this city. I mean, I can't speak to how bad
will be in the rest of the country. This city
and other cities, though, are going to get it really hard.
We're already gained it really Audio. You're in the Freedom
hud This is the Buck Sexton Show podcast. You know,

(32:10):
your campaign put out you're a critique of President Trump
and says if he doesn't do these things you know
he could, he could cost lives. Do you think there's
already Do you think there is blood on the President's
hands considering the slow response or is that to two
hearts of a criticism. I think that's a little too harsh.
I think what's happening is that failure too. As I
watched a tree limb to your show where someone said

(32:34):
that made use the phrase that the president just thinks
out loud. He should stop thinking out loud. And start
thinking deeply. He should start listening to the scientists before
he speaks. He should listen to the health experts. I
get really tired of this talking point that the president
should listen to the health experts. The health experts are
with him and speaking directly the American people every day,

(32:57):
and he just made a massive decision that some people
may look back on. I know, right now, it's okay,
the virus is really bad in some places in the country.
It's going to get worse in other places. Let's shut
down for the entire month of April. Let's hope that
the response from the administration to deal with the economy
is sufficient. There is the chance that we will look

(33:18):
back at this decision to shut down well beyond easter,
to go weeks beyond easter, and recognize that economically it
was disastrous in a way that you know, we'll see,
We'll see. I'm hoping that's that's not the case. You know,
all along, I've been wondering, why is not more of
the focus on protecting vulnerable populations and just doing social mitigation,

(33:40):
but allowing people to do more work or to do
more of their jobs. But I suppose for things like
restaurants and other businesses. Congregating in numbers is an essential
part of the business, so you can't really change that.
It's a very complicated problem. And people that are going
around dunking on one another because someone's wrong on this
on You know, I can guarantee this, President Trump, everyone

(34:03):
who works in the White House right now. You know,
the people that are dealing with this problem day in
and day out, if they could wave a wand and
save every single life from today forward, they would do it.
We all know that everyone wants maximum life saved. Everybody
wants everyone's mom, dad, brother, sister, grandma, grandpa, wife, husband, son, daughter,

(34:24):
you name it, right, we all want all of them
to come through this. But we also are operating in
the reality of we are in a war with a virus,
and right now the virus is taking a heavy toll
on us with casualties a lot. And remember the casualties
is wounded as well as killed a lot. Of the
people right now who are being intubated and going through

(34:45):
this process, you know, they're suffering very badly even if
they come through this on the other side. And that's
why when Chuck Todd says something and this is the
start of this of this little conversation we're having this segment.
Do you think there's blood on the president hands? Considering
the slow response? I mean, Chuck Tod is honestly, he's
so indicative of the elite media and someone who I

(35:10):
don't know, it's just all smoke in mirrorsm The guy
isn't very bright, doesn't seem ethical in the least in
the way that he covers the news is smarmie, is
a little bit of a cry baby. And yeah, he's
offered up by NBC as someone that you should all
listen to. I don't know why you wouldn't want Chuck Todd.
You know you wouldn't want Chuck Todd to have your

(35:32):
back in any situation. This guy just doesn't strike me
as somebody of any real character or backbone asking that
the president has blood on his hands. He really you're
going to hold the president responsible for this? Is the
president responsible for what's going on in the rest of
the world too, because there are a lot of every
major country right now is either about to or getting
crushed by this virus. Thanks for listening to The Bus

(35:56):
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Treasury Department an SBA has been working around the clock.
We will have a program up and running on Friday
where not only the existing SBA lenders, but FDIC banks,

(36:16):
credit unions, fintech lenders will be able to make loans.
Those loans will cover eight weeks of workers salary plus
additional money for overhead. If you let your workers go,
you bring back your workers. For every worker you have,
that portion of the loan is forgiven. So I encourage
all small distances that's about half of the US private payroll,

(36:40):
go back and hire your workers because the government is
paying you to do that. This is an ambitious plan
and it's the kind of thinking that is needed right now.
Manuchin is smart. He is a kind of Goldman Sachs
Wall Street insidery guy. But he's a smart dude. And
what are you saying here is, look, we are going

(37:01):
to pay we the federal government are going to cover
your payroll. So make sure that you're paying people because
it's free money for you to pay them. Keep your
employees on the payroll. Maybe this works, Maybe this works.
Who knows, really, who knows what the long term implications

(37:23):
will be. You know, there are two ways that this
goes badly as far as I can see it. Well, actually,
you know, there are three ways. One is that it's
and the most likely I think is that it's just insufficient.
There's all kinds of problems with the actual dispersal of
the funds. The funds are not enough for different businesses.
That's all part of this. Okay, that's one problem. A

(37:44):
second problem we lead into, and this leads us into
I should say, a depression or a recession, one or
the other. That's a very real consideration. And then we
have to deal with that on top of everything else,
and the virus that keeps coming back even though we're
in the midst of this, that's a possibility. And then

(38:04):
there's another situation, and that is that we create too
much a stress, a systemic stress on our financial system,
so that this stimulus plan, this rescue package becomes essentially
what people have been warning about for decades, which is,
you know, once we get up words of thirty trillion
dollars of debt or whatever it is going to be

(38:25):
when this is all over, I mean it's two trillion
right now at it on plus the trillion dollars deface
that I think we're already going to run this year,
So that's three trillion. We're gonna be a twenty five
trillion the blink of an eye, and if we do
another package, it's going to be another two or three
trillion problemly on top of that. So we're looking at
mid twenties trillion dollars of debt. What happens if then

(38:46):
that leads to a collapse, a collapse of the financial system,
the dollar, hyperinflation. I mean, all these really scary scenarios.
Those are the problems. Is that going to happen? I
don't know, I don't know, I don't know. Anybody can
really tell you this. I Mean, one thing I'm quite
certain of is that economists are bad at predictions, about

(39:07):
as bad as most cable news anchors have been at
being ahead of this situation and understanding what the implications
of it really are. But the possibility of financial systemic
systemic financial collapse, it's just being pushed aside right now.
We're just taking this Everything that can be done for
the virus, to suppress the virus at the expense of

(39:30):
maximum expensive the economy. This is the approach the administration
has decided to take. And I mean, they have access
to better information than I do. They have experts, which
I am not, and in fact, they have thousands of them,
and this is what they're going to do. I'm concerned.
But what are we really supposed to do under the circumstances,
and what are we the American people, going to do.

(39:52):
I mean, they're telling us that if we just went
back to life as normal across the country, this will
kill hundreds of thousands of people. And the number that
doctor Fauci said is that it could easily kill or
I should say, the models clearly show upwards of one
hundred to two hundred thousand people dead from this if
we went back to life as normal. Now I'm not

(40:12):
advocating I've never advocated going back to life as normal
right away. That is not a real position that anyone's had.
But even standard or I should say, even escalating and
de escalating measures for a containment that are on a
dynamic basis changed to meet the circumstances of the moment,

(40:34):
that's right now off the table too. It's just going
to be everything you can do wherever this virus exists
to shut this thing down and we'll deal with the
economic fallout later. That is really I just want us
all to be very clear that there was a discussion.
You know, obviously the administration was thinking that by April eleventh,
by easter, maybe we could start to lessen this up.

(40:56):
So that was going to be balancing things toward protecting
the economy a bit and taking a little bit more
risk from the virus. That's what that means. People can say, oh,
that's what it means. Okay, we're gon we're gonna talk
like adults here, that's what that would be. I mean,
the moment that you and found she has said as
much himself, the moment that you de escalate, the moment
that you drop down some of your protective measures, you're

(41:19):
just more more at risk from this. And that seemed
like it was something that might happen in a matter
of weeks, and now they're saying no, April. April is
lockdown month across the country, so and the economy is
something we'll deal with later. I really hope that they
know what they're doing, because if you know, the same

(41:39):
way that we didn't see this virus, no one really
saw the virus coming I've said you before, the pandemic
is a big thread, and you know, then then the
question turns into or before we're at this moment, well,
was this the pandemic virus or not? You know, we've
had SARS, we've had mirrors, we've had h one M,
when we've had these other similar incidents that were serious
but then felt a bit like not false alarms, but

(42:03):
perhaps exaggerated states of alarm based on what the final
reality of those viruses were. Are we going to look
back at this moment and this is the question that
I posed to you, and I do not pretend to
have an answer. Are we going to look back at
this moment where we said everything against the virus doesn't
matter what the economy looks like right now or what
it's going to do to it. And do you think

(42:24):
there's a chance that we'll be saying at some point
in the future, how could we have missed it's so obvious?
How could we have missed that this was going to
lead us in due depression? I'm not making that prediction.
I don't know, but I do worry. I'm just I'm
raising this as a question. I worry that that's what
we're gonna be thinking in six or twelve months. And

(42:44):
it's not going to happen in a couple of weeks,
but six or twelve months from now, we're going to
say we went too far toward virus suppression measures and
didn't keep in mind what the damage to the economy
would be, what the damage would be to people's lives,
the ability to fight the virus, all the things that
Trump in the administration we're talking about last week that
seemed to now have been not abandoned, but just put

(43:05):
on hold until we can find something else, figure something
else out. So, my friends, we will have to see.
We'll just have to see. I don't have I have
Manuchin telling you that this is going to work out great,
which is really what he has to say. I mean,
he's been very involved in coming up with a play
clip twelve. I think this program is going to be
enormously successful and stabilizing the US economy while hardworking Americans

(43:29):
who lost their jobs or aren't able to work because
of the medical situation that they get help. So this
money is going to go into the economy very quickly.
It is going to help American workers very very quickly.
And I don't know how long it's going to take
to kill this virus. I do know we will kill
this virus. And when we do, I have great confidence

(43:50):
that the US economy will become roaring back. This is
what their assessment currently, This is where the assessment currently stands.
We can put the economy on hold. We can just
hit the pause button, maximum measures to contain and suppress
the virus, hit the pause button on the economy, and
then when we decide to press the start button again,

(44:11):
we'll be all right. And actually we'll have a huge
ramp up and things will be good. Man, that would
be great. And it's a really comforting story at some
level to hear now, especially for those of us who
are sitting here saying what happens if we had to
do great depression? What does that do to this country?
And you know, then you also get into the analysis then,
and this is what people right now who view this

(44:32):
through a partisan lens. I'm trying to view this through
an America lens. I really am every day and I
mean that, I know that can almost sound like some
kind of cliche, but I really am thinking what's best
for this country right now. Because there's also the chance
that we look back at this. I'll be talking to
you more about China today on the show that we
look at this moment in time and say, this is

(44:54):
when China became the pre eminent hedge them on around
the world. What does that mean if that happened? What
would the Chinese Communist Party with, you know, running a
country of over a billion people with nuclear weapons and
certainly some level of biological weapons program. I'm not saying
this is a part of that, but what would it
mean if all of a sudden that entity is the

(45:15):
single most powerful, single most powerful government in the world.
How many millions, how many billions of people will suffer
lose their life, perhaps in wars. I mean, you know,
there's so much that goes into these calculations when you're
talking about the future of the United States that right
now I think that we are I understand everyone's everyone's scared,

(45:38):
and I'm in the middle of the scariest place. I mean,
those of you that are listening to show, I could
walk out my doors and I'll tell you what it's
like in New York a little bit. But this is
there is nowhere in America right now that is more
on edge about this virus than where I am sitting
right now. I mean, this city is ground zero. But
I'm saying that the voices of of understandable concern, but

(46:02):
even some that are that are really now edging on panic,
they seem to have won out. And now we're just
we're doing a lockdown, and we're listening to experts whose job,
understandably is just to limit limit to the greatest possible degree,
any spread of this virus. And now we're being told
essentially that there is nothing, there is no other balancing

(46:22):
factor here. That we're doing every absolutely everything we can
up to and including shutting down the economy for another
thirty days. I really, I really hope that they're right.
I'm not in a position to say that they're wrong
because I don't know what's going to happen. Honestly, they
don't know what's going to happen. But I don't have
expertise in epidemiology and viral pandemics and all these other things.

(46:43):
I do know that government and competence is everywhere, and
that the government. You know, there's a part of me
that is angry about Okay, the CDC makes or not
makes part of me. The CDC has about a seven
six seven billion dollars year budget over ten thousand employees.
What have they been doing time? This is this is
the equivalent of the big invasion that everybody knew was

(47:06):
coming by some foreign country, and it would be like
the Pentagon sit around saying, yeah, you know, just you know,
try to arm yourself and see if you can help
us fight this thing off. What really, the best the
CDC can do is to put out a test that's
faulty at the absolute critical moment and then tell us basically,
go to wash our hands, stay away from each other,
shut down the economy, and don't go outside. And that's

(47:28):
really what they're telling us. You know that they don't
really know how how much this disease is aerosoli has
spread through Aerosoli's droplets versus contact on surfaces and people
then just you know, putting their fingers in their mouth
or their eyes. They don't know. They don't know if
you can get reinfected. There's some report out of China
that says you might be able to get some percentage

(47:48):
of people might be able to be reinfected with this afterwards,
which would be really distressing because usually virus you have
immunity at least for a long period of time after
you get it. There's so much about this that they
don't really know. And I do want to ask the question,
what is exactly the c D what have they been
doing all this time? And the National Institutes of Health?
You know what are they because I know that they've
done things like to help They've had campaigns to tell

(48:09):
people to have their kids like eat more vegetables, and
they want to study gun violence and things like that.
I know that that has happened. And it just feels
like there wasn't really a playbook for this to be
run by you, by the CDC, by the NH, and
we've been making it up as we go along, and
you do want to ask what were they doing all

(48:31):
this time? And really now we're turning. I mean that
the likeliest scenario would be if one of the I
shouldn't say likely, it's the likeliest home run scenario for
us and for humanity would be if one of these
one of these big pharmaceutical companies comes up with an
excellent treatment for this. I keep seeing this anecdotal data

(48:51):
about a zithromycin and chloroquin or hydroxy chloroquin not to
be confused with the fish tank cleaner chloroquine phosphate. That's
a no no. I see anecdotal stuff about this, but
until we have some real clear studies on it for
a few weeks, we're just not going to know. We're
going to continue to be in what feels like a

(49:12):
bit of a guessing game on this. So, my friends,
the economy is just being We're trying an experiment now
with the economy that has never been done before. I
don't know this has ever been done before in human history.
I just don't know if there's any any analogous situation
to this. And the people in charge are telling us,

(49:33):
don't worry, We've got this. Okay, this is the way
it's going to be. I'm going to try to go
forward in good faith and listen to the experts on this.
But I also know that a lot of things we've
been told about systemic economic risk are only getting worse
right now. I mean, I mean, like catastrophe, like the
economy just implodes, like dollars all of a sudden aren't

(49:54):
worth anything. I mean, that's that's kind of what we
think of as the worst possible scenario for the economy.
Which would just all of this country effectively. I'm going
to hope that that's not going to happen at any point,
and we're gonna be okay, And I'm gonna try to
just downplay in my mind that the experts that we're
always being told to listen to have been wrong and
a lot of this stuff, and our leaders have certainly

(50:14):
been wrong on both sides. By the way, this is
not as there's this sense that one party was right,
and that's that's a lie, that one media organization was
right and others. No, that's not true. People have been
getting this wrong left and right because nobuddy knows. That's
really the that's the the operating or the operative phrase

(50:34):
for what the future holds here. Nobody knows. And we're
just doing the best that we can, and that's we're
coming together and rallying as people to each other's sides
as much as we can day to day. That's what
we can do. And hope that these pray that these
experts aren't making an enormous blunder by thinking that we
can do this lockdown for another thirty days. I certainly

(50:57):
hope that they're right, and then we can just turn
the account. Let me about broad we'll see you're in
the Freedom Mind. This is the Buck Sex and Show podcast.
This is such a very, very sad time for us,
so we should be taking every precaution. What the president,

(51:20):
his denial at the beginning was deadly. His delaying of
getting equipment to continues is delaying getting equipment to where
it's needed is deadly. And now I would think the
best thing would be to do is to prevent a
more loss of life rather than open things up so
that because we just don't know, we have to have testing, testing, testing,

(51:44):
That's what we said from the start, before we can
evaluate what the nature of it is in some of
these other regions as well. I don't know what the
purpose of that is. I don't know what the scientists
are saying to him. I don't know what the scientists
said to him. When did this president know about this sident?
And what did he know? What did he know and

(52:06):
when did he know it? That's for an after action review.
But as the president fiddles, people are dying and we
just have to take every precaution. Nancy Pelosi is neither
a decent nor an ethical person. And you see this
now in a way that has made clear what many
of us have known for a long time. But Nancy
Pelosi can't put aside her worst political impulses even for

(52:30):
a moment. She can't do it. This is who she is.
The president is fiddling and people are dying. How is
the president fiddling? What is he supposed to do that
he's not doing. He has invoked the Defense Production Acting
now he's actually used it, meaning that he has gone
to private, major private companies and said, okay, you're now
doing this. We're going to pay you for it. But
you're not doing this thing. You're making this product. You're

(52:53):
making ventilators or masks or whatever the case may be.
And this is what he was being pushed toward. He
didn't want to have to do it. Look like General
Motors was holding things up a little bit, so he said, okay,
on the president. This is how it's going to be.
Notice also, how the people that were claiming the president.
There's so much that this is showing you about the lies,
the dishonesty, and the just the general deceit of the

(53:14):
opposition to this administration. For three years up until now,
they kept saying that he's a dictator, he's an authoritarian,
He's a fascist. I mean, these were things that we're
said about the president, and now that we're in a
moment where is a true crisis, and the ability to
seize and wield power now is greater than anything since
nine to eleven, and in some ways is even more
powerful than what we saw with the aftermath of nine

(53:37):
to eleven. That ability is not being abused by this
president at all. In fact, one of the criticisms against
him that the left and others are using is that
he's not seizing enough power in order to deal with
this pandemic. Do you think anyone looks at that in
that way now and reevaluates all of their Trump is
a dictator. Trump is basically like Hitler. Do you think
anyone does that? No, of course not. They choose not

(53:59):
to do any of that because it was all for
a purpose. It was all about a struggle for power.
It was never a boy presenting you with the truth.
So they lied about Trump until now, and we all
should take a moment to recognize what it was. It
was lies. Thanks for listening to the bus sets and
show podcasts. Remember to subscribe on Apple podcast, the iHeartRadio app,
or wherever you get your podcasts. She's blaming the pros

(54:23):
in the United States for people dying because of the
way he's led the country. That's the most shameful, disgusting
statement by any politician in modern history. Let me tell you,
we've seen the best of America, from our citizens helping
each other, delivering groceries, having special shopping hours for senior citizens.

(54:45):
She's the first politician to blame another politician for people dying.
This is the same Speaker of the House who held
up the bill in the Senate for days because she
wanted same day voting. It is disgusting, but it's really
not surprising, a isn't it. Nancy Pelosi now claiming the
President's costing lives because of his response to this. Meanwhile,

(55:06):
she delayed this rescue bill for the entire economy because
of what Because she wanted money for windmills and diversity
on corporate boards. No one gives a crap about those
things right now. Nancy Pelosi, who's not a total left
wing lunatic, but Nancy Pelosi is, in fact the left
wing lunatics. I suppose none of this should be considered
even the least bit surprising. Whether the President also had

(55:29):
a I mentioned before the the back and forth with
the press and how they think that still even in
this moment in time, they are so very important. Here
was one of the exchanges that I didn't get to before.
Play clip ten. You were talking about governors of different
states and you said, I want them to be appreciative.

(55:51):
You also said, if they don't treat you right, I
don't call ready. Ready. Take a look at what it says.
I want them to be appreciative of me, Okay, and
then you cut it off because it's fake news and
of your administration. Please let me just finish. You just
said it again, and you know the answers a lie.

(56:12):
You know. I let me just say you're sapent and
your response and your answer is a lie, because here's
the story. You're ready. I said, I want you to
be appreciative of me, and then you go on and
then I go on and you cut it off. But
it says when you am not appreciative. I don't want
them to say things that aren't true. I want them
to be appreciative. We've done a great job. And I'm

(56:32):
not talking about me. I'm talking about Mike Pennce. The
task course I'm talking about the Army Corps of Engineers.
Thank you. But then you went on to say if
they don't treat you right, I don't call. He's a
different type of I don't call no. I don't call no.
I don't call the governor of Washington in this time.
But Mike Pence calls, and the head of FEMA calls.
I don't stop them. Did I ever ask you to
do anything negative? Mike to Washington, the state of Washington, Michigan.

(56:55):
I love that state. That's one of my favorite places
in the whole world, Michigan. This is a example of
the nonsense that you expect from the press. We all
know how Donald Trump speaks. We all understand that he
has a very particular way of saying things, very Trumpian way.
When he says that they're not nice to me, I
don't call. They're saying is that he has one of
the other members of the task force speak to leaders.

(57:16):
I mean, Jay Insley has been an immature joke during
some of this. I mean, after the President had a
conference with him, I think it was two weeks ago,
had a call with him, he went to Twitter and
slammed the President unfairly on Twitter. So why isn't it
a smart move? I mean, if you were managing a
company and you had a very critical matter to deal with,
which certainly addressing this is if you had a critical

(57:37):
matter to deal with and you were involved in a
personal dispute with somebody in the company, why not take
out that personal level and make it just about doing
whatever is necessary to get the job done. So he's saying,
Mike Pence will be the one who makes the phone call,
not me. That doesn't strike me as in any way

(57:57):
a cause for alarm. I mean, he's the vice president
and he'll talk to the States and make sure they're
getting everything they need to get. But they still they
drilled down on these things and they look for the
most negative version of it possible because their audience has
really been psychologically conditioned to view things as negatively as
possible all the time about this administration. And they're certainly cause,
they're certainly cause for criticism for the Trump administration on

(58:19):
a number of fronts, but it's never in good faith.
It's never offered up as well, they didn't do this. Well,
here's the context. We were told that Trump was a
trader and that he was basically a fascist who was
destroying democracy for three years. These people are insane and
that hasn't changed. That hasn't changed despite everything else. So
this is what we see happening. And then you got

(58:41):
Joe Biden, who remember he was going to do a
press conference every day, and then they realized that that
didn't work, that didn't look good. You're going to have
what a shadow state with Joe Biden running it Right now,
we don't need to hear what Joe Biden thinks about
different responses or what he would do if he were
in charge. We got big your things to think about,
and he's not in charge. So why they back off

(59:04):
those press conferences, Well, they got rid of them because
it didn't look good for Joe Biden, and in part
it's because he doesn't offer anything valuable at this point
in time. Play clip nine. Let's set aside President Trump's rhetoric.
Is there an action he has not taken that you
would be taking right now if you were president? Yeah,
I'd be doing two things. At least one, I would

(59:25):
make sure that he uses a Defense Production Act, not
only to do with the issue of whether or not
there are ventilators, but I would do the same thing
for mask and gowns and mask and all and shields,
all the things that are first responders and our doctors
and nurser's need. Why are we waiting? We know they're needed,
They're going to be increasingly needed. You just heard the

(59:46):
president's folks person talk about the increasing knee. A lot
of Democrats really don't understand not just that government is
full of slow, slothful, corrupt, inapt people, which it is, unfortunately,
but also the way that the private sector works and
why you can get more things if you allow the

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expertise within the private sector to do what it does. Right.
Here's here's the disconnect. When it comes to public sector stuff.
It's always listened to the experts. It's always the CDC
says this, the NIH says that, and sometimes that is
certainly the correct, the appropriate response. But they defer to
the experts there. But they won't defer to experts within
the private sector when it comes to making stuff. You
know who's really good at making things? People who make them.

(01:00:30):
You know who's not as good at them? People that
just say, you know, make make a million masks appear
because we say so, this is what you see. This
in socialist command command control economies. You see this in
places where the state is in charge in this way,
at this level, where they just will you know, this
is what the Soviet Union would do. They would say, okay,

(01:00:51):
we want there to be x amount of loaves of bread,
so that's what the breadmakers have to make. And guess
what that didn't take into account what the price of
wheat was, what the price of labor was, and so
they were all these shortages and problems. You know, Democrats
who are claiming the president should just direct the private
industry to make all this stuff don't understand that he's
telling some private industry, hey, can you guys make this,

(01:01:12):
will pay you, and then leaving it to them to
make because they'll be better at it. And then if
someone slows down too much or they're being haggling too
much in the negotiation, he invokes a Defense Production Act
and we go from there. So that's where this is
right now. I mean, Joe Biden coming forward and acting
like he would just make some declaration about how they
need to be fifty million masks or whatever. Then I mean,

(01:01:33):
who knows, I don't even know what the number is.
Right now, they think they need nationally, but it's an enormous,
an enormous number of these surgical masks. Who knows what
that would mean, wouldn't I don't think it would help
for Joe Biden just make this declaration. But I mean
a big problem here is that they're they're trashing Trump
so much in their response for obvious political reasons, and

(01:01:54):
then they turn around and they offer us up Joe Biden,
who is really a confused l lily and an honestly
corrupt guy and uninspiring and has no real executive experience
of any kind other than I mean, you can talk
about the executive experience his son got on the board
of a company he never should have been on. Joe
Biden is not someone that you would put on the

(01:02:16):
board of any company to advise you, unless you were
just looking for his name, which we know that's a
thing that happens on the boards of companies too. So
that's where we are right now. I mean, we're looking
at this entire response and we're saying, well, hold on
a second, we're supposed to think that Joe Biden would
do such a better job or Nancy Pelosi, who do
says a better job in truth, government at all levels
has failed you. There have been failures, there have been missteps.

(01:02:39):
There should have been more information out sooner to the
public about really what this was and how dangerous it
was going to be. I think I'm not convinced, for example,
that the response that views this as a national level
thing where everywhere you should have a lockdown instead of

(01:02:59):
place by place, and the federalism that was being discussed,
or a more federalist approach of states and localities making decisions.
And then I think that in the end we'll look
back and think that probably would have been a better move.
But here's what we're up against. During all of this,
no matter what happens to the economy, and no matter
what happens in the aftermath of this, and the aftermath

(01:03:21):
now feels like it's very far away, you will have
people who tell you that it doesn't we save two
million lives, and that there's nothing so no, no destruction
of the economy, no erosion of civil rights, no erosion
of self civil liberties, rather, no erosion of any part
of our society. They will say it can compare to

(01:03:44):
the did they save two two million lives? We'll end
up seeing what the final number is here, but that
will be the claim, So just be prepared for that
as well. If you think that we head into a
great depression and all of a sudden there's shortages, there's
not enough food, there's real problems like that, they'll turn
aroun out and say when you want to be like,
I told you guys, we had to do more for
the economy, they'll turn around and say to you, but no,

(01:04:07):
we saved two million lives, so shut up. The government
knew what it was. You know. The government response here
was the correct one, and it's viewed somehow as a
partisan response, even though I think this is just everyone's
trying to make the best decisions they can under the circumstances.
And I certainly hope that the economy just comes roaring
back and maybe Manutrition's right. And you know, the people
right now who are in the prediction business have a

(01:04:27):
very very tough way ahead of them because really those
who are good at predicting things understand that what they
do is pattern analysis, and they look for similar situations
how they played out, and then they try to look
at they try to gauge the percentages for how something's
likely to play out in the future, and you can
really do that with this because we're we've never seen
anything like this before. So that that's my feeling on this,

(01:04:50):
my friends. There's still a lot of information we need
to make better decisions. But Joe Biden, I'm await. Here's
just a you know, I wanted to give you a
little bit of a a moment away from the virus
and everything. Here's Joe Biden giving one of his biden isms.
Play eleven. What do you make of the fact that

(01:05:11):
the President's John rading has bumped up during this crisis? Well,
I think, you know, I think that's a typical American
response in every single crisis we've had that I've been around,
going back to Jimmy Carter and the hostages all the
way through to this moment. President's ratings have always gone
up in a crisis. And but you know, that little expression,
the proof of the you know, is going to be

(01:05:32):
an eating of pudding. You know, what's it going to
look like? I hope we're in a situation going into
the fall where this is under control, We're done all
the right things, and things are beginning to move and
the president is listening to the scientists, as I said,
and stopping the you know, the personal attacks on people
who disagree with him, and I think let's let's get
away from the childishness of this and focus on the problem.

(01:05:56):
The proof is going to be in eating the pudding.
I'm going to say, Actually, Joe Biden's quote there, everything
he said about we got to see where this is
and let's stop the personal attacks and we'll have time.
I'm on. I mean, I think it was a very
astute thing to say. So, as much as I just
wanted that the proof is going to be in eating
the pudding, I just like the way he said that one.

(01:06:16):
But actually his analysis there was pretty was pretty good,
which is that people should stop with the nasty personal
stuff and let's see where we are in dealing with this.
I think that's a better approach for all of us.
It would certainly be a better approach in the media.
Especially now. Okay, it's hit us. Now we're in the
midst of this. Now we're in the fight, and we
know that it's a big one and it's real and
this is scary. So let's look to do the best

(01:06:39):
we can under the circumstances and not do what Pelosi's doing,
which is just the most disgraceful partisan finger pointing stuff.
It's it's just bad news. It's bad news. When Pelosi's
able to do what she does, she does not help
anybody except herself. You're in the freedom hunt. This is

(01:06:59):
the Buck Sex and Show podcast. Everyone has been instructed
that if they see worship surfaces going, services going on,
they will go to the officials of that congregation. They'll
inform them they need to stop the services and disperse.
If that does not happen, they will take additional action,

(01:07:22):
up to the point of fines and potentially closing the
building permanently, closing the place of worship permanently. The Mayor
of New York City says, I think everyone heard that
and said what But this is what I mean by
we have been conditioned to think that the threat of
tyrannical overreach comes from this president. That's what the media

(01:07:45):
has been telling you for years, even though every time
he's had some policy dispute with the other side, it
goes to court, he goes all, he goes through the system.
You have this bad faith hashtag resistance judiciary that comes
up with the most preposterous justifications for slowing down this president,

(01:08:07):
and they have decisions that they go forward with that
are just garbage, and then it has to make its
way through the judiciary, and Trump eventually is right. But
they've been telling us that Trump is a threat of
tyranny for all this time, and now you have the
Mayor of New York City saying, yeah, if you have
a true look, I don't think people in New York
right now should be gathering in large numbers for any reason,
and that includes that includes religious services. There was a

(01:08:29):
case in South Korea. They did a whole case study
of a woman who had COVID nineteen went to services
there and infected a whole lot of people in our church.
So it can happen, it does happen. It's important not
to do that. But to threaten to shut down a
place of worship permanently, how is that helpful in this moment?
And also under what authority? With the Mayor of New York.

(01:08:51):
I'm sure he'd come up with some authority, but that
is disconcerting. It's also disconcerting that the same person who
is now telling us all that I'm not gonna say
all hope is lost, but he has not been the
mayor of New York has not been a calming presence,
that's to say the least with all this stuff going on.
Here is what he was saying before we saw quite

(01:09:13):
how bad this whole thing was playing sixteen right now,
we have twelve hundred hospital beds. That is a very,
very substantial capacity. The message to the orches from the
beginning has been this is something we all can handle together.
Go about your lives, go about your business. We have
the capacity to keep this contained. I think we should
say the other day in the meeting that health and

(01:09:34):
nostrils is in strong shape, something like ventilators. You can
speak to that on ventilators. New York City is in
good shape and based on even the most dire predictions
of percentages of people who will have serious illness with this,
we will be fine. I want to keep encouraging people
to go out and live their lives and patronize those businesses.

(01:09:55):
One other questions tomorrow evenings. Yes, she's safe of people
who have Yeah, the point isn't the commissioner can jump in,
Yeah if you if no one has symptoms, neither the
visitors nor the people being visited. Yes, that was a
lot of guidance, a lot of advice at the president.
I'm sorry that the mayor rather was giving the people

(01:10:17):
of New York City. How much of that looks in retrospect?
Luck it was even a little bit a good idea,
none of it. You're gonna have a lot of people
that are playing the blame game and saying that people
didn't respond to this properly. They and and it's going
to be a political nastiness all across the board. I
would just say that with Deblasio, you know, he's he's

(01:10:38):
taking a very firm hand with everybody here in the
city today, and it's hard for all of us who
see this situation not to feel a little bit of well,
weren't you telling us until recently that everything was going
to be fine? And now you're telling us everything is
the opposite of fine. And he has professional health people.
All they do is look at this. He listened to

(01:10:58):
the experts we were told, and the experts were wrong
on this one too. A lot of people were wrong.
Don't pay attention to the finger pointing right now. There's
plenty of time for that later. Right now, we've got
to get through the storm. Thanks for listening to The
bus Essen Show podcasts. Remember to subscribe on Apple podcasts,
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(01:11:21):
is that message, at least in part to blame for
how rapidly the virus has spread across the city, Jake,
we should not focusing, in my view, on anything looking
back on any level of government right now. This is
just about how we save lives going forward. We all
were working, everybody was working with the information we had
and trying, of course to avoid panic, and at that

(01:11:44):
point for all of us, trying to keep not only
protect lives, but keep the economy and the livelihoods together,
keep ensuring that people had money to pay for food
and medicine. I mean, this was a very different world
just a short time ago. But the bottom line is,
when none of us have time to look backwards, I'm
trying to figure out how we get through to Sunday
next Sunday, and then what we do the week after that.

(01:12:07):
There's some truth to this, the looking backward right now.
I mean, obviously de Blasio is particularly vulnerable to that
because of the stuff that he was saying. And I've
played for you before, but we are now all trying
to just focus on what is ahead of us and
how we can move forward, how we can do everything
possible to make the best decisions we can in the

(01:12:27):
days ahead as a country, as a nation, as a city,
as a state, everything all across the board. And it
is a very different world right now. I mean, there
were people who were talking even a couple of weeks ago,
who were looking at models, and some people were saying
we could have two million dead, and some people were saying,
we'll probably have twenty or thirty thousand, something like that,

(01:12:48):
which would be similar to a bad flu season, it
seems like right now, or actually that's just a pretty
standard flu season. It seems right now like we're gearing
up for I mean, the President yesterday claimed that anything
under one hundred thousand dead from this would be would
mean that the administration had done a good job. That's
a that's a shift in thinking. And for a lot

(01:13:10):
of us, the calculation about how quickly to get back
to work versus at least some of us get back
to work with enhanced precautions in place, versus the possibility
of additional infection. The pendulum is swung in the other
direction right now, and we are in maximum defense mode
against the virus, and the economy is just being put
on hold. So I want to tell you what it

(01:13:32):
was like this weekend for me here in the city.
On the one hand, I have time for cooking, which
I will say was nice. I'll maybe get into that
a little bit later. I'll tell Producer Market some of
my cooking exploits. But I went for a walk with
the dog. And just for those of you who are
worried or saying, why aren't you in quarantine, I mean
I am in quarantine. I go out by myself with

(01:13:52):
the dog, and I can walk around my neighborhood. I
don't see anybody. Really, there's nobody out on the streets.
It's empty. I post sit a photo that I took
on Sixth Avenue facing south here in New York City,
and that photo just shows you that not only there
are very few people on the street in the most
crowded what's usually the most crowded part of Manhattan, which

(01:14:15):
is the most densely populated part of the Five boroughs
as far as I understand it, at least during working hours,
and there were no cars. I've never seen that before
in my life, where there were just no cars, and
if there's anything that was close to it, maybe it
would have been, you know, during a period of incredibly
heavy snow, and you know the thing, let's snow, as
we know, it's gonna mouth and we're gonna be okay.

(01:14:35):
This is orders of magnitude more concerning. You know, this
is exponentially more concerning than honestly any of the natural
disasters that we've had hitting New York City and at
least in my lifetime, including Hurricane Sandy. So I walked
around the streets and it's there's an eerie feeling for sure,

(01:14:55):
because there's no people, there's no businesses open. You are
very aware here that this is a city. The city
is sick. I mean, it feels like the city is
in lockdown, like it's in some kind of hospital. Ward
as a city. And I spoke last week to a
doctor friend of mine in one of the hospitals here
and he told me about the situation. He said, it

(01:15:16):
is really bad. There's that photo going around and at
a Brooklyn hospital. Brooklyn and Queens have been hit the
worst so far, but there's a photo going around of
bodies being being put into the back of a refrigerated truck.
There are refrigerated trucks outside the major hospitals. That's that's
all very real, folks. Some of you've been asking me,
are these things really happening. Yeah, it is happening. Another

(01:15:39):
friend send me a photo from his window of the
field hospital that they've set up in the very fields
that I used to play sports on as a kid
in school. So the field hospitals are out in the
fields of Central Park. There is a field hospital now
near Mounts One. They've put up big tents and it's
they're ready for taking patients out there too. I mean,

(01:16:02):
this is where we are. I mean, this is a
city that is it's like it's preparing for a war.
But instead of setting up anti aircraft guns and you know,
putting surfaced air missiles and sandbags and things like that,
we're lining up ventilators and tents and medical personnel. It's

(01:16:23):
it's a very it's a very tough time in the city.
People have been asking me about the nine eleven comparison.
I think this is now. I didn't. I wasn't in
New York on nine eleven. I was up at college.
I came back. I think within a couple of weeks probably,
So I was in the city pretty soon after the
nine eleven incident happened, and there was already then, I

(01:16:44):
can say, at least a sense that the city was
gonna was gonna bounce back, We're gonna be okay. You know.
There was still that shock and the and the loss
of all those people that were died in the towers
and the NYPD and FDNY and all the folks who
were affected by that. Certainly that was on everyone's minds,
but as a city, there was no sense that the

(01:17:06):
entire city was going to be was going to be
taken down by this, that the city would never really
be the same, at least I don't remember that at all.
Right now, you walk around the streets in every restaurant
you pass, everything you see that you go past, you
think to yourself, they've closed down or they closed for good.
Every store, every restaurant, every business you walk past them.

(01:17:29):
You think how long, how long before they're not able
to ever open their doors? And the answer is gonna
be a lot of them never do. That's a different feeling,
that's a different place than we've ever been in before
as as a city, and it's it's very, very distressing.
I'll also say that there's an element here and this
is maybe this won't be a concern at all the NYPD.

(01:17:51):
The police department here has I think a few a
few thousand people who are outsick now that the department
is over. I mean, if you at civilians, it's over
forty thousand. I think the uniform personnels in the mid
to high thirties. But you've got a couple of thousand
officers who are outsick, and you've had a few hundred
officers who have tested positive for coronavirus at this point.

(01:18:15):
And if you look at what's going on on the
streets at this point in time, it feels like it's
desolate and eerie and unsafe to Cops are not going
to deal with the lesser crimes, that's for sure. They've
already said in Brooklyn they're not going to prosecute for trespassing,

(01:18:36):
for theft. This is a combustible mix, and no one
really is focused right now on the possibility of a
breakdown in civil society. But it wouldn't take much. It
would not take much. And you walk the streets of
New York City and you have a police force that's
already been hit hard by COVID nineteen is going to
have more people out in the days ahead, and you

(01:18:57):
just have a general sense of fear. I mean the
city yesterday was a wet, cold day, It's been soaked
in fear. Today is a little bit better, it's a
little bit sunnier, and you know, the warm weather I
think is really going to help a lot. But I
just hope that we're not in a combustible situation where
we end up finding ourselves. I just hope we don't

(01:19:20):
end up finding ourselves dealing with problems that are caused
by the virus in the lockdown to the virus, but
have nothing to do with the virus. And that's where
I get worried about the moment you start having shortages.
I mean, there are all these stores right now. You
can't get toilet paper, you can't get paper towel. You know,
we're dealing with real shortages because of panic buying. What

(01:19:40):
happens when you go to the store and there's there's
not food? Now that doesn't feel like it could happen
right now? How many months of this do we think
we can sustain? And what happens if there is just
from the unemployment and the anger. I mean, people are upset,
they're in their homes, they can't leave. If we have
some civil disorder, it's essentially on the streets. Things get

(01:20:02):
very ugly very quickly here. So and I don't think
that I don't think that they're that that's um out
of the question. And I've spent a lot of time
in this city. I've been through a lot in this city,
and there's a sense right now that one one push
in the wrong direction for us while we're dealing with this,

(01:20:22):
and you could have problems pile on topic. Now, maybe
this is all wrong. Maybe the people understand how serious
this is. Everyone's staying home, everyone's scared by the virus.
You know, there's there's not going to be You might
even see a drop in criminal activity city wide. You
probably will right now because there's just aren't people out
on the streets, and you know, everyone's in their homes.
So unless you're gonna do a home invasion, a burglary

(01:20:44):
is a very risky thing to do. But I am.
I am concerned. That's the best thing I can say.
But I did see the on the upside. All right,
Let's get to the upside for a second. Today is
a tough one, folks. It's tough because Trump just extended
the thirty days and it seems the administration has been
swayed to instead of trying to take a more state

(01:21:06):
by state and more you know, economy friendly or economy
surviving approach to this, there's like, nope, forget it, We're
just doing total lockdown. We're going for the total lockdown approach.
So that's been a bit of a bit of a
shock to process in the last twenty four hours. I
did see this morning the the hospital ship, the USNS Comfort,

(01:21:29):
the Navy's hospital ship. It came right past my window,
so I mean not like I could reach out and
touch it, but I could see it from my window
as it sailed in into New York, went up on
the went up the Hudson River, and it's out a
pier not far from intown Manhattan, And that was It's
just encouraging to know that we've got the eyes of

(01:21:50):
the nation on the city right now, and that the
Comfort is going to be there to deal with heart attacks,
deal with strokes, deal with you know, all the other
medical issues that do not stop because we are in
our homes and there's a virus out there. So it
is encouraging right now to see it's encouraging right now
to see what's going on on the at least in

(01:22:11):
that respect, from the from the perspective of trying to
have things in place that will help us. And you know, now,
I could do the whole dunk on the MSNBC show,
Rachel Maddow's show for saying we'll never get here and
everything else, But you know what, it's not even that's
not even important right now. People are wrong. People are
wrong all over the place. I don't know anyone who's

(01:22:31):
who's understood at every phase of this how to handle them,
what to do. And I think maybe here's the thought,
maybe we could, at least for this week, try to
extend a little more, a little more decency, grace, forgiveness,
and understanding to each other, especially as we try to
work through this together as a country than we would
on other issues. Maybe we could all aspire to that.

(01:22:52):
That would certainly be nice. But the Navy ship arrived.
You got numerous trials going on right now for drugs
that could really be helpful against this. Everyone's focused on
chloroquin and zpax azithromycin as a possibility. We don't know yet.
There's also a drug up in Montreal that's a it's
a very inexpensive, very old gout drug, but it deals

(01:23:15):
with inflammation and it may it may be useful against us.
There's some hope that will be useful against the cytokine
flood that occurs in the lungs when you are infected
with this, So that's certainly a possibility. And then there's
also this big drug out of Gilad rem Severe I
think it's called out of Gilead Pharmaceuticals. So those are

(01:23:38):
all possible places where things could get could get better.
Those are all areas where we could see a real
reason for particular, you know, for some enthusiasm about this
fight and that we've made a breakthrough. We'll have to
see if in fact any of them come through, and

(01:23:58):
that would be a game change. Also, the syrology tests,
we got to know who's already had this and how
many people in the country have already had it, and
then they should be cleared to go back to work
assuming they have immunity, which I mean going back to
work sooner than later. That would be great, But it's
going to be my friends. Oh I did well. I'll
give you some quarantine updates coming up here in a second.
But let me just for a moment talk about what's

(01:24:18):
going on with China. You're in the Freedom Hunt. This
is the Buck Sexton Show podcast. China is definitely responsible
for much of the pain that we are all feeling.
The Chinese Communist part of the Chinese government, not the
Chinese people, but the Chinese Communist Party made decisions that

(01:24:40):
have had ramifications throughout the world. I mean, this is
this is their Chernobyl, but it's much much worse than Chernobyl. Chernobyl, who,
as we know, once they managed to take you know,
they managed to try to address the problem. It did
not turn into the global destruction mechanism that many were
concerned it would be. Um, this is sure, noble if

(01:25:02):
the worst case scenarios actually came true of the initial
projection of putting all of that radiation into the air,
that would spread everywhere else. And the Chinese government is
lying about this, has been lying about it at every step.
Here's a guy from the World Health Organization, though he's
being asked a question by a journalist. I believe a
journalist from Hong Kong about different countries responses to this.

(01:25:22):
And the guy's name is Bruce Aylward. He's from the
World Health Organization. Just notice notice how he handles this question.
Play five considered Hiwan's membership. Hello, it was I couldn't

(01:25:43):
hear your question. Okay, let me let me let me
repeat the questions right, because because I'm actually curious on
talking about Taiwan as well on Taiwan's case, we decided
to give doctor Alward another call to fund and I
just want to see if you can comment a bit
on how Taiwan has done so far in terms of

(01:26:05):
containing the fires. Well, we've already talked about China, and
you know, when you look across all the different areas
of China, they've actually all done a good job. So
with that, i'd like to thank you very much for
inviting us to participate, and good luck as you go
forward with the battle in Hong Kong. We've already talked

(01:26:26):
about China. Wow. World Health Organization representative here is like,
no, no no, no, we do we do the Chinese bidding
on this issue. Chinese don't recognize Taiwan. We don't recognize Taiwan.
We won't even talk about Taiwan. So when people talk
about the propaganda situation, when people discuss the reality here

(01:26:49):
of Chinese propaganda being used by Western media, just understand
there's also international organizations that succumbed to this pressure. There's
a story. You know, I'm not to get an tomorrow
a little bit because I don't really have time for
it today. I want to get to Roll call. But
there's a story about how did China mess up so
badly when it came to dealing with this because they're

(01:27:11):
supposed to be They've been preparing for this for a
long time. They have in place, what were the most
robust reporting mechanisms possible. That was what they thought, that
was what they were telling everybody, stretching back for over
a decade. How can the Chinese government get this so wrong?
And the answer is the Chinese government doesn't care about

(01:27:32):
human life. It cares about power. But there's a more complicated,
in the weeds version of why the Chinese government mess
this up so badly, and I will get into that,
but you know, the world health organizations also willing to
take China's word for it. You know a lot of
these international organizations One of the problems, whether it's the UN,
the who you name it, one of the big issues
is that they have this mentality of treating all nations

(01:27:52):
like they're equally decent regimes, like the act of the
people that are engaged in, you know, the day to
day governance, are all are all just like each other.
You know, one country is as good as another country.
There's the equivalent of moral relativism expanded out through nation
states that exists in all these international institutions, and it

(01:28:14):
leads to things like this where you have China being
treated like it's a good guy here by the World
Health Organization, and just a refusal to talk about Taiwan,
which is an independent country. I mean, right now, Taiwan
is an independent country. We're in the middle of a pandemic,
and we can't talk about what Taiwan is doing. We're
going to just say that it's part of China. That
would be news to Taiwan, by the way. So the

(01:28:37):
World Health Organization and some of these other bodies that
are supposed to be a political and just helping us
out with the disease, just remember that they're all these
big international institutions are very political and the Chinese government
is going to not just try to avoid blame for this,
They're going to They're going to try to capitalize on
the situation as much as they can. And look, I

(01:28:59):
start to get work. What if China recognizes our financial
weakness and decides that they can they can afford because
of their manufacturing base and their accessing out of raw
materials because of the Belton Road policy. What if they
decide a dump US treasuries the tune of a few
trillion dollars they own. Well, we'll get into China more tomorrow,

(01:29:19):
I think. What we'll do more of a deep dive
into China and the COVID nineteen crisis. Roll calls up next.
Thanks for listening to The Bus Sesson Show podcasts. Remember
to subscribe on Apple Podcasts, the iHeartRadio app, or wherever
you get your podcasts. And by the way, I really
do appreciate all of you writing in now more than ever.
It's like my connection to the outside world. So I'm

(01:29:43):
stuck here in quarantine. I feel a little bit like
Matt Damon in The Martian and you guys are my
comms back to Earth. So thank you so much for
writing in and sharing all your thoughts. All right, let's
get you Alex. I heard Mark. Hey, producer Mark, how
are you, by the way, buddy, we haven't even checked
in with the at house producer Mark. I'm doing well, well,
thank you? You are right. Yeah, everything's great here so far,

(01:30:04):
so good with you in quarantine? At least you know
you're gonna get a goldfish or something, or maybe a plant.
I don't really see how a goldfish or a plant
would keep me occupied for very long. Yeah, but you
know a company, Yeah, I mean I guess, yeah, not really.
But what is are you alerting dogs? No? I love dogs. Oh,
you love dogs. It's just expensive to be in this
apartment building. Yeah. And plus right now, you wouldn't want

(01:30:25):
to be house training a dog. That's for exactly, so
you don't want to be outside all the time. I
got a dog here. She directs my life right down.
Whenever she wants to go out, I gotta go out.
Whatever she wants is what I gotta do. So it's
it's busy. It's amazing. What dog hasn't interrupted the show yet? Yeah,
she's very quiet. I mean she's in the room with
me all the time. In fact, I will tell you this.
She actually sleeps on my feet sometimes as I'm doing
the radio show at least feeling great. She's like, she's

(01:30:48):
like a little baby seal warming my feet with her
with her white fur and her blubber. It's great. She's
a chubby one. You're gonna make saying that. She's gonna
be so mad at me for saying that, but she
knows it's coming. Come on. She's a soft She's a
full figured French bulldog, that is for sure. All right now,
Mark is okay, so we're good with that. I heard
Mark mentioned Mitch Rap That's one series I like. Who

(01:31:10):
was going to recommend it to you? Vince Flynn is
the author. Daniel Silva's Gabriel Alan series is good too.
And if you like short podcasts, you should check out
the way I heard it with Mike Roe Shields Hie
good Sir Alex, thank you for all those recommendations. I
do appreciate that, and I will say that what you know,
what I did over the weekend like everybody else, because

(01:31:31):
I feel like there's this greater sense now more than ever,
that you want to have some community with people and
you want to be able to talk to them about
things you're watching. Because I can't see people, I can't
experience things with them. I can't go for walks with them,
or or go to dinner with them, or you know,
I can't cook dinner for my parents right now, which
I like to do sometimes. So watching things and being

(01:31:51):
able to talk about them is fun. I did watch
the Tiger King mark. Did you get to it yet? No?
We were binging a different show this weekend. What'd you
binge over the weekend? The one about a creek that
I can't say the first name of them? That? Oh yeah, okay,
are you almost done with that one? We got through
two seasons just this weekend alone, so we are pretty
much pretty close to the end. Yeah. Nice, Okay, cool. Well,

(01:32:13):
I'm very curious to hear what your thoughts are on
Tiger King. I thought Tiger King the first couple of episodes,
we're pretty amazing, very entertaining. Then I think it kind
of I think it's seven episodes in total. Then it
kind of got a little bit, a little two into things,
it got a little depressing, and it finished Okay, it finished, okay,
But the first two episodes are just are just mind boggling.
I mean, it's pretty amazing stuff that goes on. If

(01:32:34):
I here's here's the question for you, producer Mark, if
you if you could have if you had to have
any exotic and dangerous animal, meaning it has to actually
prove some some threat to your safety, but you got
to have it as a pet. So we're talking lines tigers, bears,
oh my king Cobra's, elephants, hippopotami. What do you go for?

(01:33:00):
This is a ridiculous question. There was any higher series
just about people that do exactly this. I mean, I
guess lying cubs are kind of cute, exactly, that's what
most people go for. Panda. Yeah, I like that answer.
I think a panda is actually an excellent choice. They're
very cute, and yes they're bears, and they're dangerous and

(01:33:21):
they're big. I wouldn't want to pet them though. Do
you ever see the video of the guy that got
too close to a panda cage in China and it
grabs him and holds him against the bars, and you realize, oh,
it's a lot stronger than me. Yeah, it's not a puppy,
it's not. Yeah, it's not a cute little They look cute,
but they're actually big bears. The one thing that would
scare me more than I think a lot of people would.
I think I think the larger primates, so baboons and chimpanzees.

(01:33:47):
When those guys go bad, it's it's very bad. They're
really scary. M I would also recommend anybody that wants
to I've told you about Project Nim many times. That's
a great a great documentary on on chimpanzees. And I
would also say for me, I would want a Bobcat.
I just think a bobcat would be really cool and

(01:34:07):
it's pretty realistic too. You could have a pet Bobcat
at home and it wouldn't take up that much space.
It's about the size of a of like a labrador.
I mean, they're maybe even a little smaller than a labrador.
They're not that big. So I don't know. Maybe maybe
I'll get a pet bobcat one. All right, you do that,
let me know how it goes. I'm never coming over, Okay,
I'll bring it to work. We'll make sure it's safe
for you though. Tracy hey Buck and producer Mark, I

(01:34:30):
just want to say thank you for showing up every day.
I'm trying to stay up on the news, but I
get so annoyed seeing all the lies. I've had to
steer clear of social media because I get sucked in
by ill informed friends. If I just listen to you guys,
it centers my chee. I feel like I know what's
going on. Be safe, keep those shields high. We appreciate you,
and you're in my prayers. Well, Tracy, we appreciate you.
Thank you so much, and we certainly try to keep

(01:34:50):
things centered and and and good to go. Mark, can
you see the how far are you from the from
the Hudson? I can see swamp. I can't see Hudson.
Can't you see swam not Hudson. I'm just wondering if
you were able to catch a glimpse, because if you
were in Jersey City, for example, you definitely would have
been able to see the ship coming up the Hudson.
I mean, it was a pretty big to do because

(01:35:11):
they're all the helicopters and the tug boats and stuff
around it, So it was a pretty big, pretty big scene.
But you know, swamp, swamp is good. Swamp is good too. Christy,
hey Buck, thank you and producer Mark were still doing
the show every day. You guys are so nice. Thank you.
Our city stay at home order begins tomorrow through April sixteenth,
but I work in law enforcements, so I still have
to head to the office. I am glad to have

(01:35:33):
a job though, and a change of scenery from my house.
My cats are likely tired of me talking video of
taking video and photos of them. I'm just trying to
make them into social media influencers so they can bring
some revenue and stop freeloading. Also, I really miss sports,
social distance hugs from North Carolina. Well, Christie, thank you,
and yeah, we all we all missed those distractions. I
think that's one of the reasons this is so hard
for us all psychologically, is that we don't have those

(01:35:56):
those real things to focus our attend And it makes
me appreciate actually how much sports professional sports are so
really useful to people. Yeah, it's entertainment, but even beyond
that as as escape and as an emotional focus into
something that's that's positive and that's you know, how would

(01:36:17):
you describe a producer, Mark, I mean, when you're watching
a Great Rangers game, where does your mind go? I mean, yeah,
it's it's an escape. But if you remember in New
York right after nine to eleven. The first sporting event
after nine eleven was on September twenty first, I believe
the Mets played the Braves. Mike Piazza hit a game
winning home run and that building shook. It made everyone
smile for the first time since the towers fell, and

(01:36:39):
it was such an escape for everyone. I think that's
the big difference you were talking about nine to eleven
before in comparison to this is we don't know when
it's gonna end. We don't know when we can smile again.
That's what sports did back then, and I mean, I
just hope sports can come back sometime to make people smile. Yeah.
And by the way, we do have the We do
have that clip of here's here's a agreed upon socially

(01:37:03):
distanced cheering from buildings all over New York City for
people who are out there on the front lines keeping
work going. Can you play that audio? See producer Mark.

(01:37:23):
I even liked the whistling there. Yeah, I was wondering
if you would complain about the whistling, but no, I
even liked it. Yeah, it was necessary. Yep, that was
good whistling. That was a very nice moment. It was.
I mean really, if you see the video of it,
it's even better because you can tell that there's people
in buildings all over a part of New York just
cheering for our first responders, cheering for doctors, nurses, people

(01:37:44):
on the front lines of this thing. So it was
a moment. You're going to see more of that, which
we're gonna need too. I mean, keeping morale high right
now is very, very important. Sarah, hey Buck, I love
the trivia about your mom being a professional ballet dancer.
I teach at a classical ballet school that I hope
will still be in business once this is over. We
started live streaming classes this week, which is nothing like

(01:38:07):
the real thing. My hubby and I were supposed to
fly to New York City with our son this morning
for his senior trip. Now we're wondering if he'll be
graduating from high school on time. Hopefully we'll be able
to make the Big Apple too. With all the TV
show talk, I haven't heard one anyone mentioned Mozart in
the Jungle. It's one of my favorites. I love your podcast.
I'll look forward to it every day. Shield Hie, Sarah
and Arizona, Well, thank you so much, Sarah, and I

(01:38:29):
haven't seen Mozart in the jungle, so sounds good. It
takes place in Manhattan anything, it takes place in a
normal New York right now, though it is going to
be a little tough for me because it's such a
right and this is the hardest it's ever been to
be in this city right now, through all the natural disasters,
through nine to eleven, this is this is really right now,

(01:38:50):
I think is the most it's the toughest period we've
gone through. Jeff hey Buck, I really enjoy your podcast
and how you systematically tear down the leftist narrative is
really disgusting what the media, democrats they're one of the same,
are doing with this crisis. I find that interesting that
these same liberal governors say we can risk one life
with this virus while also advocating for effect fourth trimester abortions,

(01:39:14):
fourth being shortly after birth. How about those precious lives.
There's no consistency at all. Stuck working from home in Charlotte,
North Carolina. Yeah, I mean it's first of all, thank
you for listening to podcast, and I'm really glad you
enjoy you get something out of it every day and
as for the not risking one life with the virus,
I mean, that's this make this feels good for people

(01:39:36):
to say it's just not true. And I know it's
really easy to demagogue this and show people down, but
we make we as a society take risks all the
time that we know will end in risks. Right now.
There's a difference between shoving somebody off a cliff and
saying somebody, all right, you know you can drive down
this road, but some people may skid off the end
of this cliff and we still want a road here.
That's not the same thing. Yeah, Beverly Ruts, could you

(01:39:59):
please up Tlu on your lap again during your live broadcast.
She's so cute and thank you for making my day
so much better. Well, Beverly, maybe we'll do a Facebook
live with Toulu and maybe we can bring her into
some of the If you're not already watching on Pluto
TV channel two forty eight, the first please do. Pluto

(01:40:20):
TV is a great app for you to have right now.
Think of it like you're just adding an entirely new
cable TV lineup. But it's free, free, free, free on
your phone and you just click the channels. You want
to have a lot of channels. The first is the
channel that I'm on with Jesse Kelly, Dana Lash, Mike Slater.
And it's just think of it like we're keeping you

(01:40:41):
company and bringing you up to speed every day, and
you can watch video of it and we're all connected.
It's like it's like I'm doing a FaceTime call with
every single one of you who's watching on Pluto TV.
That's kind of what it looks like too. But that's
because I have to do this from home. People are asking, well,
what is your studio look like that, Well, it's because
we aren't allowed to be in studios anymore because of
the global pandemic, so there are some some trade offs

(01:41:02):
we have to make. And as for Talu, yeah, Talula
is a lot of fun and she's great for live
broadcasts and we'll bring her back into it as soon
as we can. She doesn't like to sit for that long,
but say sometimes she gets a little squirmy, you know,
she wants to go and sniff and find like leftover
chicken on the floor somewhere. I gotta keep my floors
really clean because otherwise there's any food in the kitchen

(01:41:25):
on the floor. She goes right for it. She's amazing
that a little sense of smells incredible. I got her,
I'll tell you this. I got her some doggy steps
so that she doesn't have to bother me when she
wants to be at the foot of the bed or
when she wants to get up on the couch. She
likes to do this thing where she winds and then
i'd come over and pick her up. And she weighs
about thirty thirty two pounds. I think, so she's a thick,

(01:41:46):
as I said, a full figured boss, a full figured
French bulldog. I got her stairs that she can climb up,
and I kept doing this thing where I would hold
a little piece of chicken at the top of the
stairs to see if she'd walk up, and she would
immediately run around to the other end of the couch,
or run around the other end of the bed and
jump up like she's evil Kinneval all of a sudden,
and she's doing a trick where she's flying over twenty

(01:42:08):
cars or something, jump right up onto the bed, jump
right up onto the couch, and take the chicken out
of my hand. So she doesn't need the stairs. She
won't use the stairs when there's chicken involved. But when
there's no chicken, I am the human elevator and I
have to make sure that I pick her up. You're
in the Freedom Hunt. This is the Buck Sexton Show podcast.

(01:42:32):
All right, we got married. Good evening, Buck, first time
watching you on Pluto TV. Thank you for all you do.
But I can't help looking over your shoulder and seeing
how high up you are. I don't think I could
live that high. Keep up the good work. I enjoy
your show. Oh Mary, I'm glad you got to watch
it on Pluto TV. Thank you for tuning in, and
for everybody else out there listening on Radio World. If
you want, you can always check us out on video two.

(01:42:52):
And yes, I am very My apartment is very high
up I am. I live higher than probably ninety five
percent of you have a building where you in your
town or city that's as high as where I live.
I think that's probably fair to say, maybe have a
five percent of you listening, maybe ten percent of you listening.

(01:43:13):
I mean I'm way up. I'm over forty stories in
the air, So that's that's up there. I don't know
how many cities even have that many residential towers over
forty stories. But it's I'm up, I'm up in the sky.
It's a great view, but it's it's. Yeah, you don't
want to look down too close to the window sometimes,

(01:43:33):
that's for sure, Mike buck Neither CBS, nor ABC, nor
nor eight NBC aired the task Force update today. The
CBS even news reporter claim that Trump wouldn't talk to
governors of Washington and Michigan unless they appreciated him. That's
not what he said. She gave the false impression that
he's holding up assistance until they kiss his button. Now
the media can lie and twist around what he says,

(01:43:54):
and we can hear we can't hear the important info
provided by these updates. Yeah, Mike, I mean, I think
it's absurd that they're not running the press conference. They're
not letting us see exactly what the president says on
those channels. What could be more newsworthy than the press conference?
You know, what could be more newsworthy? I just I
asked that question in all honesty. Jerry, Hey, Buck, I'm
oss listening to the podcast. It's good to hear feisty

(01:44:16):
in the trenches fighting buck back. I didn't vote for
Trump but listening to press or Friday, I thought out loud,
thank God for Trump. I'm in the trenches with you now.
Shield's high. Well, Jerry, thank you man. And I'm if
I seem like I'm just not as as feisty in
the fight today, it's just I'm a little yesterday was
it felt like a setback with the extension of the
quarantine managers here for a month. But I'll be back
in action tomorrow. I'll be back in action doing all

(01:44:40):
that stuff, so it'll be It'll be good for sure.
So yeah, we'll see, we'll see. Um, let's see what
we got here, Karen. Please don't try to cut your
own hair. I'm ninety nine percent sure you will be sorry.
If you can't find a hat big enough, tell us
you're head circumference. And I bet someone on Team Buck

(01:45:01):
could knit you a hat, or you could wear a
scarf Pirates style or a turban um. What do we
really I can't cut my own hair. I trimmed the
beard down a little bit because a beard was getting
really it was starting to look like Tom Hanks and castaway. Uh,
you know, here we go, ned you a hat or

(01:45:23):
a scarf? What what do you think I like the
turban idea. I could definitely do a knit hat if
somebody has a great idea for that. That says team
buck on, it's gonna wear a hat indoors um, Yes,
when you're on the show. Uh, yeah, I guess I
don't know U. So yeah, we will. We will have

(01:45:43):
to see how that goes. Fiona. That sound like Trump.
We'll see, We're looking at it. We'll see. With Buck's hair,
We'll see. I love your show. I'd regularly of the podcast.
I'm listening to your three twenty seven show. Now, you
spoke very unfavorably of the actions of Representative Massey of
Kentucky me the statement, you don't lecture someone constitution when
their house is burning down. I respectfully disagree. Our constitution

(01:46:03):
is necessary to give guidance and provide guard rails, especially
in times at crisis. Well, yeah, but it wasn't about
It wasn't a constitutional issue, So that's actually a bad
example that I used. It was a legislative issue that
had to do with too much spending. It wasn't like
they were rounding people up and putting them in camps. So, Fiona,
I just had to say that it wasn't enough of

(01:46:24):
an emergency to justify what Massey was saying he was
going to do, which is why he didn't do it,
and he backed down. Thank you everybody for listening. We'll
be back tomorrow. We will be better, stronger in the future.
Today we fight, we stay together, shields high,

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