June 2, 2023 • 32 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:11):
You're listening to The Buck Sexton Show podcast, make sure
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wherever you get your podcasts. Hey everybody, welcome to the
Buck Sexton Show. On this episode, we have Lila Rose
with us. She is the founder of Live Action. Check
out the Lila Rose podcast and also her book is
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Fighting for Life.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
Ms. Rose.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
We live in interesting times, a lot of good stuff
going on, a lot of bad stuff going on. We'll
talk to you about all of it today. Thanks for
making the time for us.
Speaker 3 (00:44):
Yeah, thanks for having me on.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
So let's start with the Dodgers. I'm not a sports guy.
I played sports, I like sports. I am somebody who,
in my older age now no longer wishes to give
any money or time to professional sports because well, a
whole bunch of reasons I'm sure you can guess, and
we could get into some other time. But even within
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the I don't care about sports realm, occasionally something comes
up and I go, wow, now we do have to
talk about this. So tell us about who the Dodgers invited, disinvited,
and then reinvited for their Pride Night celebration, and what
the stance is right now? Of at least one player,
and how this whole thing is playing out.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
Yeah, of course, so the Sisters of Perpetual Indulgence is
not a group of lovely nuns or Catholic sisters trying
to serve the poor. They are a group of men
drag queens who dress up as women and commit blasphemous
sex acts using crucifixes and rosary. So there's this extremely
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anti Catholic, basically a hate group against Catholics. And this
is who the Dodgers is. Beloved Team Los Angeles. Team
decided to invite not just invite to Pride night Buck,
but they chose to give them the Community Hero Award,
And so they're saying that they are the community heroes
and they need to be awarded in this way. And
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obviously this caused uproar from not just Catholics and not
just Christians, but people in general, saying this group is
specifically mocking Jesus Christ, who's considered God by the leading
world's religions. I mean, imagine if this was done to
an image of Mohammed. There was a group of LGBTQ
activists who were mocking and committing sex acts on an
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image of Mohammed. I mean it would just be an
all out It would be extremely scandalous and contentious. But
because it's Christians, is fair game is kind of that.
The Dodgers are active behaving as so. Anyways, they got disinvited,
like you said, and then they got reinvited after a
bunch of LGBT groups said how dare you disinvite this
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drag cream group? And so now we have continuingly doubled down.
I mean, the Dodgers have not done anything they could.
They gave them the award, they're giving them the award,
and I think a lot of people are going to
be boycotting future games.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
It seems overtly almost intended to offend for Catholics. I mean,
I've seen some of the video, for example, of someone
portraying the crucified Jesus and then having a drag queen
do a strip tease. I mean, you know, this is
about as offensive or blasphemous as I think it's could
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be expected to get, right. I mean, it's about as
bad as anybody I think can imagine in some ways.
But I also want to know why is being a
drag queen is something that is now considered brave, Like,
what is brave about a man who derives, based on
what we knew about psychology at least for the last
fifty years or so, sexual gratification for dressing up as
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a woman. This is brave?
Speaker 3 (03:52):
Why, right? And why do they need to exhibit their
behaviors and sexual dances and provocative dances in front of
children at public libraries? You know, why is it even
a thing that we're talking about drag queen's story hours
this even enter the publisation And who was the first
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person who thought, yeah, what children really need to see
is adult men living out their fetishes in front of
children to get their approval in our library system. But
that's obviously where the debate is gone. And you know,
the Dodgers doing this, it's like we've created this victim
class that if you're a drag queen, you are you
can do and mock anyone. You can be sexual in
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front of children, you can mock Jesus Christ, and everyone's
supposed to say like, oh, you have the right to
do that. It's nonsensical and I think there's backlash happening
against it. I do think the Dodgers are going to
suffer from this in the future, their reputation is tarnished.
You know, one of their lead players announced on Twitter
a few days ago, well, now we're going to have
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a Christian Family night. I forget the name of the player,
but you know, as if to make up for Yeah,
we just you know, spat on your religion and now
we're going to celebrate your religion. I don't think anyone
should go to that Christian family like night, by the way,
because the Dodgers have already made clear where they stand.
But I don't think long term, this extreme you can
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call it wokeism or gender ideology coming from these businesses
is going to serve them. I do think. You know,
Target had their LGBTQ pride sections in the front of
all their stores. They had their tuch friendly bathing suits.
I know you've covered this and talked about this, tuch
friendly bathing suits for baby.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
We use a scientific term for this on the Clay
and Buck Show, Lila, we call it a hot dog hider.
Speaker 3 (05:42):
Okay, very scientific of you. Well, I mean there's they.
Speaker 4 (05:46):
Say they're not Well, it's so crazy because they're saying, oh,
it's not it's not targeted, right that you get fact
checked by the way, buck, if you say that target
is targeting children with these products, like literally, the AP
fact checkers are going to go after you on Facebook
and say or on Instagram, Oh, that's not what targeted.
Speaker 3 (06:03):
These weren't targeted towards children. The Pride it was a
Pride onesie for your baby, and the tough friendly swimsuits
were in a section next to children's gear, and they
were they save size, extra small for the twelve year
old boy who thinks he's a girl that targets now
encouraging him to hate his body and hate his penis basically,
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so it's it's like where did we Where did we
get here?
Speaker 2 (06:26):
So anyways, they're so this is new. I gotta I
gotta make sure I get this right.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
My understanding from reading the news articles was that there were,
you know, hide the man area stuff for adults, which
I think is bizarre and twisted in and of itself.
But it sounds like you're telling me and I had
not heard this manynals before that some of the hide
demand parts bathing suits were actually geared toward children or
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could be geared toward children.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
Is that right?
Speaker 3 (06:53):
They were in sections with children, so right next to
the baby onesie and the toddler clothing is a swimsuit
which size extra small would absolutely fit a twelve or
thirteen year old. And then one of the models wearing
this swimsuit looks like a twelve or thirteen year old
girl or could be a boy dressing, you know, presenting
as a girl. So this to say, you know, the
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fact checker is saying that, oh, this is not target
is you know, is children's over here? Adults target would
never target children with these products. It's a total lie.
They're targeting children. They're in unamong children's products. They use
children child models for the for the garment. Is it
an adult sizing? Sure, but pubescent children you know that.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
Are sure technically it's adult size, but obviously a smaller
you know, a child could get the extra small and
it's near enough that they might just say, oh, well,
I'm I see, I see what's going on here. But
I want to ask you that the deeper question, why
do they want to do this? Why are they doing this?
This is clearly I mean, I have an answer which
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I'm happy to share with you, but I wanted to
know why you think they're doing.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
This because it is clearly you brought up.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
Why do they want to have drag queen story or
why are they Yeah, Okay, what do you think the
answer is? Because I think the answer is so disturbing
that it's almost hard to speak about out loud. But
I think people need to hear it more. What do
you think is going on?
Speaker 3 (08:16):
I think one answer. I think there's a few things
going on. One answer is that there's a desperate need
when you are practicing a disordered sexual lifestyle, when you
are at war with your body, you have a deep
need for acceptance. You're looking for your identity and you
want to be You want to find that identity. So
you're going to blame when you're at war with yourself.
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Like if you're someone who has same sex attraction, you're
going to say, well, I'm unhappy because of homophobia. Well,
maybe you're unhappy because you're living a lifestyle where you're
having sex with other men and you're a man. That
will lead to psychological and physical unhealth for you down
the line, But you want to blame exterior forces. If
you're a person who struggles with gender dysphoria, you'll say, well,
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I struggle with gender dysphoria and I have all of
these suicidal issues that I'm depressed or I'm anxious because
society won't accept me. No, you're at war with your
body and you need to make peace with your body
and need medical health for that and psychological health for that.
But if you can blame external forces, then you can
say that external forces have the responsibility to support what
you're doing, to support your gay marriage or to support
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your transgender identity. And then why wouldn't children have the
responsibility as part of society to not be a homophobe
or a transphobe. You know, why shouldn't we say, Yeah,
children need to see two men kissing on the street
the same the way that they would see their mother
and their father. Or they need to see a man
cross dressing the same way that they see a man
or a woman wearing you know, their gender's clothing. So
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the natural consequence of lack of self acceptance and war
with yourself wanting society to inform you because you have
this deep psychological and health leads to forcing the children
to get in line. I mean, I think that is
a kind of complex, but that is the ultimate answer.
I think there's also satanic stuff happening it's spiritual. I
think there's sexual revolution consequences for that, but I think
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the core reason is you need the children to ultimately
affirm you to continue to live in this depravity, because
otherwise you're forever at war with yourself. You're looking for
that ultimate affirmation.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
Also, I've been telling people this, and I think that
this is hard for people to process. But the position,
I know you know this, but it bears repeating for
everybody who's listening. The position of the left is not
that you can become a transgender woman. It's that you
are a woman when you are trans in every way,
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which is the most blatant and obvious kind of lie,
because in no way are you actually a woman, growing
out your hair long, pinting your fingernails. And you know,
I point out to everybody that Dylan mulvaney, Dylan mulvaney
does not act like a woman. Dylan mulvaney acts like
a caricature of a fourteen year old girl, and not
even a good version of a fourteen year old girl,
a caricature of a fourteen year old girl. Dylan mulvaney is,
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I think, in his twenties, but this all I think
has been growing for a long time. And part of it,
as I see it is the on a political level
and really a mass psychosis level. If they can get
you to affirm the most obvious untruth, then they can
get you to say anything. And I think this is
very common in the Soviet Union, that if you can
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debase people's and they did not just a Soviet Union.
They do this in North Korea, they do this, they
did this in Maoist China. Debase the most obvious things
that you know to be true, and you are inherently
destabilized and more able to be molded in other areas. Right,
because if you can't say the most blatant and obvious
things that you can observe yourself, well, then when someone
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else in authority tells you, well, this is true, you
no longer have the psychological defenses to say no, it's not,
because you've effectively been co opted into a massive lie.
And then, without getting too deep into it, the point
you made about something satanic or demonic about this? What
could be more demonic than convincing children to generally mutilate themselves.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
For the rest of their lives.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
It's hard to think of things and that there are
doctors and mds pushing this, that there is a desire
to make this a standard. I mean, I truly believe
I used to say this, Ellilah, that it's only a
matter of time before you'll be considered a bigot as
a straight male if you don't find a trans woman attractive,
which you've probably seen this. This comes up acause they try,
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they'll float a trial balloon about this.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
Oh, but what do you mean.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
That's you're bigot at your transphobic and also the doctor's
getting the gender of the baby wrong. Well, that's just
the That is the end result of the overall ideology,
which is that this is somehow both entirely changeable, and
yet we're supposed to believe that it is ingrained from
birth right, which is completely incoherent.
Speaker 3 (12:52):
Makes no sense, right, It's totally incoherent and it doesn't
make sense. But you know, you see the catastrophe. I
interviewed Chloe Cole recently, and I know you familiar with her,
but she's nineteen years old and eighteen years old when
she was fifteen. They give this perfectly healthy girl a
double mass sectomy because she's having gender identity issues, and
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they say, well, now you're a boy. And then she
de transitions at sixteen, and now she's telling her story
and now they're saying, you know, they're mad at her
for how dare you violate the cult? It's a basically,
gender ideology is a cult. And if you don't believe
the things that are totally illogical, and you don't stay
and do what everyone else is doing, and you break
free of it, then they give you the cult treatment,
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which is, we hate you forever. I mean, you're going
to completely reject you. And that's what they've done to Chloe.
But you know the other thing that's so crazy about
this buck is that if a child can consent to
changing his or her gender, Like if a child can
decide at five years old that they're not a boy,
they're a girl, and that they can decide to take
puberty blockers and hormone blockers and then you know get
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you know, bottom surgery or chest surgery, which is basically
their reproductive parts and retooling them to be a fake
version of the other bodies part, you know, the opposite
sex is part. If a child can consent to all
of that, why can't a child consent to having sex?
Right like why why can't a child have sex? And
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I think that's where this gender ideology takes you, is
that it basically says children are sexual, children have autonomy,
and they should be yet to make sexual choices. So
why can't you be okay with pedophilia? And you know,
there's a there's this thing of oh well, these conservatives
are those those anti trans people, They're just so scared
of pedophilia. They they see pedophiles everywhere. Yeah, because pedophiles
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are everywhere. There are pedophiles in our country, there always
have been. And are we going to give them legal
cover for their perversion or are we going to protect children?
And that's what it does come down to at its core,
what Target is doing. They are groomers. What these businesses
are doing to promote pride products and transgender social contagent
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to kids. They are grooming kids for sexual exposure and activity.
And it should be criminalized. And that's why obviously so
many people are upset about it, and Targets share has
dropped ten billion dollars in the last few weeks.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
You think it's going to keep going?
Speaker 3 (15:20):
I think so if people like you and me keep
speaking on it, and if people like you and maybe
not maybe not you, but definitely like me, stop shopping there.
I don't know if you loved you used to love.
Speaker 1 (15:31):
To tell my wife, I've had to tell her no
more targets. She used to love shopping at Target. This
is a very common thing. So let's come back in
a second. I want to I want to talk to you.
Speaker 3 (15:43):
What would you say, Carl Jean Los Angeles is a
pro life brand. They have Target light clothes. There's alternatives.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
Okay, good to know. I want to speaking about a
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I have to ask you, I know a number. I mean,
I work with some pro life organizations, have currently worked
with one, and have with others in the past. I
have a number of friends who have been very vocal
in the pro life movement in media for years now,
and this is what I'm hearing from a lot of them. Okay,
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if we don't back off six week abortion bends everywhere,
basically we're going to lose every state and we're going
to lose the presidential election in twenty twenty four. You know,
every state election, I should say, and we'll lose the
presidential election in twenty twenty four. This is a loser,
we can't win with it. What do you say to that?
Speaker 3 (17:36):
Totally inaccurate. It's completely inaccurate. Look at Florida. Governor Desantas
signs into law the heartbeat bill. He had fifty four
This is a purple state. Susanta's had fifty four percent
of Democrats in Florida support the heartbeat law. In Texas,
Governor Abbott signs the heartbeat law into sends a heartbeat
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bill into law. He wins his reelection in an increasingly
moving towards purple state. So you and then Governor de
Santa's won in the landside. But you did a national poll.
So there's a national poll that was done by Resmusen.
It found that forty six percent of Americans nationally, of
voting Americans Democrat and Republican, forty six percent said they
wanted the heartbeat law, versus only forty three percent said
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that they opposed it. So this idea that Americans hate
the heartbeat law is a complete lie. And in fact,
like in Florida, even the Democrats at majority support the
heartbeat law. So what I think that really is about
Buck is there's a narrative coming from pro abortion people
and some pro life people that are just scared and
not being cowards, quite frankly, not being leaders who are saying,
we're not even going to try. Roeby Wade is overruled.
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Now we can enact abortion bands. We're not even going
to try because oh, we're going to lose. No, you're
going to win like Governor DeSantis. Whin you're going to
win like Governor Abbott one, if you're smart about it,
if you're smart about how you message on it, if
you'd communicate well, if you're proud of your position instead
of being scared and like running from it every time.
And then one other thing to note. You know, the midterms,
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people said, well, the pro life movement did so poorly
in the mid term. So many candidates said poorly. Well,
some candidates said poorly. Some prolitate candidates did wonderfully, like
Governor DeSantis. But the point is in the midterms, we
were outspent. The pro life side was outspent, they said
up to thirty up to forty dollars to one dollar,
between thirty and forty dollars to every one dollar because
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the Republican Party didn't even put the money in. They
didn't even try. So. Yeah, if you run from the issue,
if you don't message on the issue, and if you
won't spend any money to support life, you shouldn't complain
when your pro life candidate wasn't even very pro life loses.
I mean Governor Or Oz, you know, Senate candidate Oz
in Pennsylvania. He was doctor Oz. He was a horrible candidate.
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He was hardly prolact and they're like, oh, he lost.
So you know, the Republicans are losing because of Roev
Wade being overturned. That's not what happened. We have to
change the narrative on it because it's just it's just
not this is not the case.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
What do you think about President Trump's position that it
should be left up and tie of the states, the
federal government doesn't have a role.
Speaker 3 (20:11):
I think it's to splat out false. I mean, think
about it this way. What's the number one goal, what's
the number one purpose of the government, of the federal government,
And it's to secure the common defense. But it's secure
our constitutional rights. And what are our constitutional rights? The
first right is what life? If you don't have life,
you don't have any other rights. If you have a
state who's not enforcing their homicide laws, they're purposefully leaving
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out a whole group of people. So the preborn children.
Preborn children are human beings just like you and me.
They should have equal protection under the law like you
and me. Under the fourteenth Amendment, life doesn't begin at birth.
It begins when the human life begins at conception. So
these children deserve legal protection. If a state like California
decides to not only not protect children in the womb,
but to give lethal power to franchise, lethal power to
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the medical community to kill children for a profit, which
is what they're doing, the federal government absolutely has a role.
How could you say they don't. The federal government's job
is to protect the fundamental human right, and if the
states aren't doing it, they need to step in. So
I think there should be a federal abortion ban, and
I think that there's a lot of things the executive
branch can do even without legislation. I mean, if we
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have a president in office whose pro life, they can
ban the sale of abortion drugs. I mean, that's interstate
commerce right there. That's easy to do. The FDA could
just say we're not going to be distributing these lethal
drugs to be used as abortions through there's some very
concrete things that both the legislature federally and the executive
branch can and should do.
Speaker 1 (21:39):
I want to ask you, excuse me, I want to
ask you about feminism in a second, which I'm sure
we'll have some very interesting you'll have some very insights
on in just a second. We'll get to that in
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Disruption twenty twenty three dot com. While are you Are
you a millennial? I may ask you that I feel
like you're young enough? Are you gen z?
Speaker 3 (23:02):
I'm a millennial millennial too.
Speaker 2 (23:04):
Okay, you're a millennial as well. I'm an old millennial,
graybeard millennial.
Speaker 1 (23:07):
So you know, I feel like I'm I'm not hip
to like what the cool kids say, but I have
some idea of what folks in their thirties are are
thinking and how they're living their lives, and I just
wonder when's it going to come across more that the
promises of whatever you want to call it, postmodernist feminism
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lead to deep misery and unhappiness. And I think this
is reflected and honestly, a lot of the data now
about well women in their twenties and thirties, but also
all the way down to teenage girls who are having
the worst mental health crisis since I think they've been
able to measure this kind of stuff with national polls.
And is there a narrative that is to blame here
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or that needs to be adjusted?
Speaker 3 (23:52):
There is, And yes, you can blame modern and I
consider it. You know what you could call it? I
think you said postmodern feminism.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
I mean, you know, they call it a lot of
different things.
Speaker 3 (24:02):
But yeah, what does feminism mean today? To most people?
It means the bad stuff, which is pro sexual promiscuity.
Women are at war with their motherhood, women are pro abortion.
I mean, all of that is nonsense and is the opposite,
the antithesis of valuing what it means to be a woman.
What makes women different? For men? We have the unique
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ability to be mothers. Men can be fathers. Do we
champion motherhood in women? Do we champion marriage in women?
Which I think most women deeply want a committed lifelong
relationship as opposed to hookup culture. Yeah, that would be
the pro woman message. But I think so many young
girls are miserable. I mean, during COVID, the anxiety rate
spiked for young girls. I think it's one out of
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every three young girls have considered suicide. I mean, it's insane.
And I remember being a young girl and going through
hard times and wondering what's my identity in my teen years?
And it's even worse for girls today because I didn't have,
you know, the messages young girls today. It has gotten
so much worse in the last decade and a half
that even when I was that age. So what's the
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source of it? Social media is huge, where the constant comparison,
the con instant need to be perfect look perfect. I
think that's part of it. A lack of connectivity to
real world people, deep friendships, friendships and brings so much
meaning in someone's life. Broken families is part of it, buck,
I mean, so many people, more people are growing up
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without an intact family than not. You know, so many
people don't know what a real marriage even looks like.
No wonder, they don't want to get married, no wonder.
So many are giving up on love when marriages are
broken everywhere. But I do think gender ideology and abortion
ideology is especially pernicious for young girls. Because we talked
about Chloe cull earlier. She's this great example of what
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young girls suffer when you hit puberty. As a young girl,
you're questioning your identity, You're questioning your body if you're
told your body is wrong, or you're told in order
for you to be a woman, you have to be
like a Kardashian and be uber, sexy and basically sexually
commoditize yourself. If that's what womanhood is, right, No wonder,
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So many girls are like, I'm out, you know, I
don't I don't want this, I don't this. This feels bad,
this feels wrong. So you're creating this perfect cesspool of
misery for girls between the Internet, between the beauty and
sex standards, and between the sexual revolution saying that you know,
marriage and motherhood don't matter anymore. No wonder, girls are miserable.
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What's the solution. We talk about it on my podcast
a lot. I know you care about this, but it's values.
It's returning to morality. It's returning to values and a
positive view of women and men, of motherhood and fatherhood
and of marriage. So in explaining why these things are
good and worth fighting for instead of we should give
up on them.
Speaker 1 (26:49):
And I'm sure you've you've come across this, but on
some of these I don't know if they called, I
don't know what they'd really kind of these alpha male
podcasts or some of these influencers who will talk about
because you did the whatever podcast recently which I saw,
which you had some some viral moments on that. But
you'll come across in general guys on the internet who
(27:09):
will say they use this term. I actually learned this
term from my friend Jenedi Abila. I don't know if
you know her, but she talked about body count once
and I'm legitimately I was like Jedediah when I was
helping special operations guys in a rock and Afghanistan, like
body count was a very you know, That's what I
thought of as the body count, like how many people
died in the you know, in the strike basically. But BodyCount, obviously,
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in the context of dating is a very very different thing,
which is how many people somebody has slept with. And
I feel like these guys who say you have to
take that into account and there's a very you know,
they're like, oh, I would never you know, if a
woman has slept with more than three men or something.
They're getting at something that is somewhat true, but they're
taking the wrong approach to it, which is just cycle
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through as many women as you can until you happen
to find one who hasn't slept with a lot of guys.
Instead of women sleeping with a lot of guys because
the culture pressures them to do. That is doing a
lot of damage to women, to other human beings that
has long term psychological impacts, right, I mean this is
so there's they're picking up on some thing, but it's
like they're dieing. I mean they're diagnosing a problem, but
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their approach to it is wrong.
Speaker 3 (28:15):
Well, it's more than wrong there. It's like hot called
the kettle black, and it's like, you guys are both
doing the wrong thing here. If your solution to women
are promiscuous is to be promiscuous yourself, good luck with that. Like,
you know, you're not going to find eternal happiness that way.
And so I think the solution is men have to
stand up and be better men, and women have to
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stand up and be better women. You know, I think
sometimes I hear in culture this blaming game of like
it's the women's fault or it's the men's fault, and
I think we're all at fault. I think every single
one of us are at fault in terms of if
we're participating in hookup culture, if we are participating in
hatred and division between the sexes, then we have a
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responsibility to stop. And the message for young women out
there is a very similar message to young men, which
is pursue virtue. You know, virtues is like forgotten word,
but what is virtue? Self control, its respect, Virtue is
even modesty, modesty not just of dress, but of behavior.
It's understanding that what are you aiming for? What makes
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people most happy? This is what gets so crazy, Buck,
is when you look at the social data. All the
social data says that people who are monogamous, who get married,
who stay married, are the happiest and healthiest sexually and
physically in every aspect. They are the most economically successful.
And that's not just because they come from a rich background.
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It's for both different socioeconomic levels. Regardless. If you are
monogamous and you seek then keep an intact family, you
will have better outcomes because you're going to be protected
from all of the nightmares that come from cheating, dishonesty,
breaking up your family, children out of wedlock, STIs, all
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of the stress, economic stresses of that of having multiple households.
You're protected from those things. And again there's still mistakes
that can be made in a monogamous marriage, of course,
but the point is at large is better for society.
So that's a message, right. And then the other message
too is you are actually more likely to divorce if
you live together before marriage. Most people don't even know this.
They think if you mail together before marriage, you're actually
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like somehow protected from messing up the marriage because you
really know you want to marry this person. Actually, if
you test drive the car, as you say, before getting
you know, buying the car, you're actually more likely to divorce.
Couples that are chased, you know, abstinate before marriage and
then get married are more likely to stay married. So
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more people hear of this and understand why I think
it's going to change our culture on this.
Speaker 2 (30:48):
I'm going to give you a closing.
Speaker 1 (30:50):
I like to look for a point of optimism where
whenever we close, we'll get to that in one second,
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important stuff, but heavy stuff. But and this is one
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(31:55):
lot more. And it's good to hear a young lady
espousing a traditional value of morality and virtue so eloquently.
What makes you optimistic?
Speaker 3 (32:08):
What makes me optimistic? Because I think a lot of
people are waking up. I see I mean just the comments.
I mean, I'm sure you see these two, but comments
from people saying, you know, they're not even religious, they're
not Christian or Catholic or anything, but this makes a
lot of sense. I get DMS from people saying, oh
my gosh, I thought that I had to sleep with
my boyfriend because that's what everyone said you do. But
I don't want to do that anymore, want to I
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want to save sex for marriage. I mean, people are
making these decisions. So, you know, people are looking for happiness,
they're looking for meaning, they're looking for solutions, and I
think a lot of the things we're talking about, our value,
our values are a solution to what a lot of
people are longing for. So I'm hopeful that there's cultural
revival happening and excited to yeah, be a part of it.
Speaker 1 (32:51):
Bilo Rose, thanks for being with us. We'll talk to
you soon Thanks for having
You're listening to The Buck Sexton Show podcast, make sure
you subscribe to the podcast on the iHeartRadio app or
wherever you get your podcasts. Hey everybody, welcome to the
Buck Sexton Show. On this episode, we have Lila Rose
with us. She is the founder of Live Action. Check
out the Lila Rose podcast and also her book is
(00:33):
Fighting for Life.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
Ms. Rose.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
We live in interesting times, a lot of good stuff
going on, a lot of bad stuff going on. We'll
talk to you about all of it today. Thanks for
making the time for us.
Speaker 3 (00:44):
Yeah, thanks for having me on.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
So let's start with the Dodgers. I'm not a sports guy.
I played sports, I like sports. I am somebody who,
in my older age now no longer wishes to give
any money or time to professional sports because well, a
whole bunch of reasons I'm sure you can guess, and
we could get into some other time. But even within
(01:05):
the I don't care about sports realm, occasionally something comes
up and I go, wow, now we do have to
talk about this. So tell us about who the Dodgers invited, disinvited,
and then reinvited for their Pride Night celebration, and what
the stance is right now? Of at least one player,
and how this whole thing is playing out.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
Yeah, of course, so the Sisters of Perpetual Indulgence is
not a group of lovely nuns or Catholic sisters trying
to serve the poor. They are a group of men
drag queens who dress up as women and commit blasphemous
sex acts using crucifixes and rosary. So there's this extremely
(01:48):
anti Catholic, basically a hate group against Catholics. And this
is who the Dodgers is. Beloved Team Los Angeles. Team
decided to invite not just invite to Pride night Buck,
but they chose to give them the Community Hero Award,
And so they're saying that they are the community heroes
and they need to be awarded in this way. And
(02:09):
obviously this caused uproar from not just Catholics and not
just Christians, but people in general, saying this group is
specifically mocking Jesus Christ, who's considered God by the leading
world's religions. I mean, imagine if this was done to
an image of Mohammed. There was a group of LGBTQ
activists who were mocking and committing sex acts on an
(02:31):
image of Mohammed. I mean it would just be an
all out It would be extremely scandalous and contentious. But
because it's Christians, is fair game is kind of that.
The Dodgers are active behaving as so. Anyways, they got disinvited,
like you said, and then they got reinvited after a
bunch of LGBT groups said how dare you disinvite this
(02:52):
drag cream group? And so now we have continuingly doubled down.
I mean, the Dodgers have not done anything they could.
They gave them the award, they're giving them the award,
and I think a lot of people are going to
be boycotting future games.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
It seems overtly almost intended to offend for Catholics. I mean,
I've seen some of the video, for example, of someone
portraying the crucified Jesus and then having a drag queen
do a strip tease. I mean, you know, this is
about as offensive or blasphemous as I think it's could
(03:31):
be expected to get, right. I mean, it's about as
bad as anybody I think can imagine in some ways.
But I also want to know why is being a
drag queen is something that is now considered brave, Like,
what is brave about a man who derives, based on
what we knew about psychology at least for the last
fifty years or so, sexual gratification for dressing up as
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a woman. This is brave?
Speaker 3 (03:52):
Why, right? And why do they need to exhibit their
behaviors and sexual dances and provocative dances in front of
children at public libraries? You know, why is it even
a thing that we're talking about drag queen's story hours
this even enter the publisation And who was the first
(04:13):
person who thought, yeah, what children really need to see
is adult men living out their fetishes in front of
children to get their approval in our library system. But
that's obviously where the debate is gone. And you know,
the Dodgers doing this, it's like we've created this victim
class that if you're a drag queen, you are you
can do and mock anyone. You can be sexual in
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front of children, you can mock Jesus Christ, and everyone's
supposed to say like, oh, you have the right to
do that. It's nonsensical and I think there's backlash happening
against it. I do think the Dodgers are going to
suffer from this in the future, their reputation is tarnished.
You know, one of their lead players announced on Twitter
a few days ago, well, now we're going to have
(04:55):
a Christian Family night. I forget the name of the player,
but you know, as if to make up for Yeah,
we just you know, spat on your religion and now
we're going to celebrate your religion. I don't think anyone
should go to that Christian family like night, by the way,
because the Dodgers have already made clear where they stand.
But I don't think long term, this extreme you can
(05:15):
call it wokeism or gender ideology coming from these businesses
is going to serve them. I do think. You know,
Target had their LGBTQ pride sections in the front of
all their stores. They had their tuch friendly bathing suits.
I know you've covered this and talked about this, tuch
friendly bathing suits for baby.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
We use a scientific term for this on the Clay
and Buck Show, Lila, we call it a hot dog hider.
Speaker 3 (05:42):
Okay, very scientific of you. Well, I mean there's they.
Speaker 4 (05:46):
Say they're not Well, it's so crazy because they're saying, oh,
it's not it's not targeted, right that you get fact
checked by the way, buck, if you say that target
is targeting children with these products, like literally, the AP
fact checkers are going to go after you on Facebook
and say or on Instagram, Oh, that's not what targeted.
Speaker 3 (06:03):
These weren't targeted towards children. The Pride it was a
Pride onesie for your baby, and the tough friendly swimsuits
were in a section next to children's gear, and they
were they save size, extra small for the twelve year
old boy who thinks he's a girl that targets now
encouraging him to hate his body and hate his penis basically,
(06:23):
so it's it's like where did we Where did we
get here?
Speaker 2 (06:26):
So anyways, they're so this is new. I gotta I
gotta make sure I get this right.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
My understanding from reading the news articles was that there were,
you know, hide the man area stuff for adults, which
I think is bizarre and twisted in and of itself.
But it sounds like you're telling me and I had
not heard this manynals before that some of the hide
demand parts bathing suits were actually geared toward children or
(06:51):
could be geared toward children.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
Is that right?
Speaker 3 (06:53):
They were in sections with children, so right next to
the baby onesie and the toddler clothing is a swimsuit
which size extra small would absolutely fit a twelve or
thirteen year old. And then one of the models wearing
this swimsuit looks like a twelve or thirteen year old
girl or could be a boy dressing, you know, presenting
as a girl. So this to say, you know, the
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fact checker is saying that, oh, this is not target
is you know, is children's over here? Adults target would
never target children with these products. It's a total lie.
They're targeting children. They're in unamong children's products. They use
children child models for the for the garment. Is it
an adult sizing? Sure, but pubescent children you know that.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
Are sure technically it's adult size, but obviously a smaller
you know, a child could get the extra small and
it's near enough that they might just say, oh, well,
I'm I see, I see what's going on here. But
I want to ask you that the deeper question, why
do they want to do this? Why are they doing this?
This is clearly I mean, I have an answer which
(07:56):
I'm happy to share with you, but I wanted to
know why you think they're doing.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
This because it is clearly you brought up.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
Why do they want to have drag queen story or
why are they Yeah, Okay, what do you think the
answer is? Because I think the answer is so disturbing
that it's almost hard to speak about out loud. But
I think people need to hear it more. What do
you think is going on?
Speaker 3 (08:16):
I think one answer. I think there's a few things
going on. One answer is that there's a desperate need
when you are practicing a disordered sexual lifestyle, when you
are at war with your body, you have a deep
need for acceptance. You're looking for your identity and you
want to be You want to find that identity. So
you're going to blame when you're at war with yourself.
(08:37):
Like if you're someone who has same sex attraction, you're
going to say, well, I'm unhappy because of homophobia. Well,
maybe you're unhappy because you're living a lifestyle where you're
having sex with other men and you're a man. That
will lead to psychological and physical unhealth for you down
the line, But you want to blame exterior forces. If
you're a person who struggles with gender dysphoria, you'll say, well,
(08:58):
I struggle with gender dysphoria and I have all of
these suicidal issues that I'm depressed or I'm anxious because
society won't accept me. No, you're at war with your
body and you need to make peace with your body
and need medical health for that and psychological health for that.
But if you can blame external forces, then you can
say that external forces have the responsibility to support what
you're doing, to support your gay marriage or to support
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your transgender identity. And then why wouldn't children have the
responsibility as part of society to not be a homophobe
or a transphobe. You know, why shouldn't we say, Yeah,
children need to see two men kissing on the street
the same the way that they would see their mother
and their father. Or they need to see a man
cross dressing the same way that they see a man
or a woman wearing you know, their gender's clothing. So
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the natural consequence of lack of self acceptance and war
with yourself wanting society to inform you because you have
this deep psychological and health leads to forcing the children
to get in line. I mean, I think that is
a kind of complex, but that is the ultimate answer.
I think there's also satanic stuff happening it's spiritual. I
think there's sexual revolution consequences for that, but I think
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the core reason is you need the children to ultimately
affirm you to continue to live in this depravity, because
otherwise you're forever at war with yourself. You're looking for
that ultimate affirmation.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
Also, I've been telling people this, and I think that
this is hard for people to process. But the position,
I know you know this, but it bears repeating for
everybody who's listening. The position of the left is not
that you can become a transgender woman. It's that you
are a woman when you are trans in every way,
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which is the most blatant and obvious kind of lie,
because in no way are you actually a woman, growing
out your hair long, pinting your fingernails. And you know,
I point out to everybody that Dylan mulvaney, Dylan mulvaney
does not act like a woman. Dylan mulvaney acts like
a caricature of a fourteen year old girl, and not
even a good version of a fourteen year old girl,
a caricature of a fourteen year old girl. Dylan mulvaney is,
(11:00):
I think, in his twenties, but this all I think
has been growing for a long time. And part of it,
as I see it is the on a political level
and really a mass psychosis level. If they can get
you to affirm the most obvious untruth, then they can
get you to say anything. And I think this is
very common in the Soviet Union, that if you can
(11:21):
debase people's and they did not just a Soviet Union.
They do this in North Korea, they do this, they
did this in Maoist China. Debase the most obvious things
that you know to be true, and you are inherently
destabilized and more able to be molded in other areas. Right,
because if you can't say the most blatant and obvious
things that you can observe yourself, well, then when someone
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else in authority tells you, well, this is true, you
no longer have the psychological defenses to say no, it's not,
because you've effectively been co opted into a massive lie.
And then, without getting too deep into it, the point
you made about something satanic or demonic about this? What
could be more demonic than convincing children to generally mutilate themselves.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
For the rest of their lives.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
It's hard to think of things and that there are
doctors and mds pushing this, that there is a desire
to make this a standard. I mean, I truly believe
I used to say this, Ellilah, that it's only a
matter of time before you'll be considered a bigot as
a straight male if you don't find a trans woman attractive,
which you've probably seen this. This comes up acause they try,
(12:27):
they'll float a trial balloon about this.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
Oh, but what do you mean.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
That's you're bigot at your transphobic and also the doctor's
getting the gender of the baby wrong. Well, that's just
the That is the end result of the overall ideology,
which is that this is somehow both entirely changeable, and
yet we're supposed to believe that it is ingrained from
birth right, which is completely incoherent.
Speaker 3 (12:52):
Makes no sense, right, It's totally incoherent and it doesn't
make sense. But you know, you see the catastrophe. I
interviewed Chloe Cole recently, and I know you familiar with her,
but she's nineteen years old and eighteen years old when
she was fifteen. They give this perfectly healthy girl a
double mass sectomy because she's having gender identity issues, and
(13:13):
they say, well, now you're a boy. And then she
de transitions at sixteen, and now she's telling her story
and now they're saying, you know, they're mad at her
for how dare you violate the cult? It's a basically,
gender ideology is a cult. And if you don't believe
the things that are totally illogical, and you don't stay
and do what everyone else is doing, and you break
free of it, then they give you the cult treatment,
(13:35):
which is, we hate you forever. I mean, you're going
to completely reject you. And that's what they've done to Chloe.
But you know the other thing that's so crazy about
this buck is that if a child can consent to
changing his or her gender, Like if a child can
decide at five years old that they're not a boy,
they're a girl, and that they can decide to take
puberty blockers and hormone blockers and then you know get
(13:59):
you know, bottom surgery or chest surgery, which is basically
their reproductive parts and retooling them to be a fake
version of the other bodies part, you know, the opposite
sex is part. If a child can consent to all
of that, why can't a child consent to having sex?
Right like why why can't a child have sex? And
(14:19):
I think that's where this gender ideology takes you, is
that it basically says children are sexual, children have autonomy,
and they should be yet to make sexual choices. So
why can't you be okay with pedophilia? And you know,
there's a there's this thing of oh well, these conservatives
are those those anti trans people, They're just so scared
of pedophilia. They they see pedophiles everywhere. Yeah, because pedophiles
(14:44):
are everywhere. There are pedophiles in our country, there always
have been. And are we going to give them legal
cover for their perversion or are we going to protect children?
And that's what it does come down to at its core,
what Target is doing. They are groomers. What these businesses
are doing to promote pride products and transgender social contagent
(15:05):
to kids. They are grooming kids for sexual exposure and activity.
And it should be criminalized. And that's why obviously so
many people are upset about it, and Targets share has
dropped ten billion dollars in the last few weeks.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
You think it's going to keep going?
Speaker 3 (15:20):
I think so if people like you and me keep
speaking on it, and if people like you and maybe
not maybe not you, but definitely like me, stop shopping there.
I don't know if you loved you used to love.
Speaker 1 (15:31):
To tell my wife, I've had to tell her no
more targets. She used to love shopping at Target. This
is a very common thing. So let's come back in
a second. I want to I want to talk to you.
Speaker 3 (15:43):
What would you say, Carl Jean Los Angeles is a
pro life brand. They have Target light clothes. There's alternatives.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
Okay, good to know. I want to speaking about a
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I have to ask you, I know a number. I mean,
I work with some pro life organizations, have currently worked
with one, and have with others in the past. I
have a number of friends who have been very vocal
in the pro life movement in media for years now,
and this is what I'm hearing from a lot of them. Okay,
(17:13):
if we don't back off six week abortion bends everywhere,
basically we're going to lose every state and we're going
to lose the presidential election in twenty twenty four. You know,
every state election, I should say, and we'll lose the
presidential election in twenty twenty four. This is a loser,
we can't win with it. What do you say to that?
Speaker 3 (17:36):
Totally inaccurate. It's completely inaccurate. Look at Florida. Governor Desantas
signs into law the heartbeat bill. He had fifty four
This is a purple state. Susanta's had fifty four percent
of Democrats in Florida support the heartbeat law. In Texas,
Governor Abbott signs the heartbeat law into sends a heartbeat
(18:00):
bill into law. He wins his reelection in an increasingly
moving towards purple state. So you and then Governor de
Santa's won in the landside. But you did a national poll.
So there's a national poll that was done by Resmusen.
It found that forty six percent of Americans nationally, of
voting Americans Democrat and Republican, forty six percent said they
wanted the heartbeat law, versus only forty three percent said
(18:23):
that they opposed it. So this idea that Americans hate
the heartbeat law is a complete lie. And in fact,
like in Florida, even the Democrats at majority support the
heartbeat law. So what I think that really is about
Buck is there's a narrative coming from pro abortion people
and some pro life people that are just scared and
not being cowards, quite frankly, not being leaders who are saying,
we're not even going to try. Roeby Wade is overruled.
(18:45):
Now we can enact abortion bands. We're not even going
to try because oh, we're going to lose. No, you're
going to win like Governor DeSantis. Whin you're going to
win like Governor Abbott one, if you're smart about it,
if you're smart about how you message on it, if
you'd communicate well, if you're proud of your position instead
of being scared and like running from it every time.
And then one other thing to note. You know, the midterms,
(19:07):
people said, well, the pro life movement did so poorly
in the mid term. So many candidates said poorly. Well,
some candidates said poorly. Some prolitate candidates did wonderfully, like
Governor DeSantis. But the point is in the midterms, we
were outspent. The pro life side was outspent, they said
up to thirty up to forty dollars to one dollar,
between thirty and forty dollars to every one dollar because
(19:28):
the Republican Party didn't even put the money in. They
didn't even try. So. Yeah, if you run from the issue,
if you don't message on the issue, and if you
won't spend any money to support life, you shouldn't complain
when your pro life candidate wasn't even very pro life loses.
I mean Governor Or Oz, you know, Senate candidate Oz
in Pennsylvania. He was doctor Oz. He was a horrible candidate.
(19:50):
He was hardly prolact and they're like, oh, he lost.
So you know, the Republicans are losing because of Roev
Wade being overturned. That's not what happened. We have to
change the narrative on it because it's just it's just
not this is not the case.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
What do you think about President Trump's position that it
should be left up and tie of the states, the
federal government doesn't have a role.
Speaker 3 (20:11):
I think it's to splat out false. I mean, think
about it this way. What's the number one goal, what's
the number one purpose of the government, of the federal government,
And it's to secure the common defense. But it's secure
our constitutional rights. And what are our constitutional rights? The
first right is what life? If you don't have life,
you don't have any other rights. If you have a
state who's not enforcing their homicide laws, they're purposefully leaving
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out a whole group of people. So the preborn children.
Preborn children are human beings just like you and me.
They should have equal protection under the law like you
and me. Under the fourteenth Amendment, life doesn't begin at birth.
It begins when the human life begins at conception. So
these children deserve legal protection. If a state like California
decides to not only not protect children in the womb,
but to give lethal power to franchise, lethal power to
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the medical community to kill children for a profit, which
is what they're doing, the federal government absolutely has a role.
How could you say they don't. The federal government's job
is to protect the fundamental human right, and if the
states aren't doing it, they need to step in. So
I think there should be a federal abortion ban, and
I think that there's a lot of things the executive
branch can do even without legislation. I mean, if we
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have a president in office whose pro life, they can
ban the sale of abortion drugs. I mean, that's interstate
commerce right there. That's easy to do. The FDA could
just say we're not going to be distributing these lethal
drugs to be used as abortions through there's some very
concrete things that both the legislature federally and the executive
branch can and should do.
Speaker 1 (21:39):
I want to ask you, excuse me, I want to
ask you about feminism in a second, which I'm sure
we'll have some very interesting you'll have some very insights
on in just a second. We'll get to that in
a moment lyla. But you know, just a couple of
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Disruption twenty twenty three dot com. While are you Are
you a millennial? I may ask you that I feel
like you're young enough? Are you gen z?
Speaker 3 (23:02):
I'm a millennial millennial too.
Speaker 2 (23:04):
Okay, you're a millennial as well. I'm an old millennial,
graybeard millennial.
Speaker 1 (23:07):
So you know, I feel like I'm I'm not hip
to like what the cool kids say, but I have
some idea of what folks in their thirties are are
thinking and how they're living their lives, and I just
wonder when's it going to come across more that the
promises of whatever you want to call it, postmodernist feminism
(23:29):
lead to deep misery and unhappiness. And I think this
is reflected and honestly, a lot of the data now
about well women in their twenties and thirties, but also
all the way down to teenage girls who are having
the worst mental health crisis since I think they've been
able to measure this kind of stuff with national polls.
And is there a narrative that is to blame here
(23:49):
or that needs to be adjusted?
Speaker 3 (23:52):
There is, And yes, you can blame modern and I
consider it. You know what you could call it? I
think you said postmodern feminism.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
I mean, you know, they call it a lot of
different things.
Speaker 3 (24:02):
But yeah, what does feminism mean today? To most people?
It means the bad stuff, which is pro sexual promiscuity.
Women are at war with their motherhood, women are pro abortion.
I mean, all of that is nonsense and is the opposite,
the antithesis of valuing what it means to be a woman.
What makes women different? For men? We have the unique
(24:23):
ability to be mothers. Men can be fathers. Do we
champion motherhood in women? Do we champion marriage in women?
Which I think most women deeply want a committed lifelong
relationship as opposed to hookup culture. Yeah, that would be
the pro woman message. But I think so many young
girls are miserable. I mean, during COVID, the anxiety rate
spiked for young girls. I think it's one out of
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every three young girls have considered suicide. I mean, it's insane.
And I remember being a young girl and going through
hard times and wondering what's my identity in my teen years?
And it's even worse for girls today because I didn't have,
you know, the messages young girls today. It has gotten
so much worse in the last decade and a half
that even when I was that age. So what's the
(25:05):
source of it? Social media is huge, where the constant comparison,
the con instant need to be perfect look perfect. I
think that's part of it. A lack of connectivity to
real world people, deep friendships, friendships and brings so much
meaning in someone's life. Broken families is part of it, buck,
I mean, so many people, more people are growing up
(25:26):
without an intact family than not. You know, so many
people don't know what a real marriage even looks like.
No wonder, they don't want to get married, no wonder.
So many are giving up on love when marriages are
broken everywhere. But I do think gender ideology and abortion
ideology is especially pernicious for young girls. Because we talked
about Chloe cull earlier. She's this great example of what
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young girls suffer when you hit puberty. As a young girl,
you're questioning your identity, You're questioning your body if you're
told your body is wrong, or you're told in order
for you to be a woman, you have to be
like a Kardashian and be uber, sexy and basically sexually
commoditize yourself. If that's what womanhood is, right, No wonder,
(26:09):
So many girls are like, I'm out, you know, I
don't I don't want this, I don't this. This feels bad,
this feels wrong. So you're creating this perfect cesspool of
misery for girls between the Internet, between the beauty and
sex standards, and between the sexual revolution saying that you know,
marriage and motherhood don't matter anymore. No wonder, girls are miserable.
(26:31):
What's the solution. We talk about it on my podcast
a lot. I know you care about this, but it's values.
It's returning to morality. It's returning to values and a
positive view of women and men, of motherhood and fatherhood
and of marriage. So in explaining why these things are
good and worth fighting for instead of we should give
up on them.
Speaker 1 (26:49):
And I'm sure you've you've come across this, but on
some of these I don't know if they called, I
don't know what they'd really kind of these alpha male
podcasts or some of these influencers who will talk about
because you did the whatever podcast recently which I saw,
which you had some some viral moments on that. But
you'll come across in general guys on the internet who
(27:09):
will say they use this term. I actually learned this
term from my friend Jenedi Abila. I don't know if
you know her, but she talked about body count once
and I'm legitimately I was like Jedediah when I was
helping special operations guys in a rock and Afghanistan, like
body count was a very you know, That's what I
thought of as the body count, like how many people
died in the you know, in the strike basically. But BodyCount, obviously,
(27:31):
in the context of dating is a very very different thing,
which is how many people somebody has slept with. And
I feel like these guys who say you have to
take that into account and there's a very you know,
they're like, oh, I would never you know, if a
woman has slept with more than three men or something.
They're getting at something that is somewhat true, but they're
taking the wrong approach to it, which is just cycle
(27:52):
through as many women as you can until you happen
to find one who hasn't slept with a lot of guys.
Instead of women sleeping with a lot of guys because
the culture pressures them to do. That is doing a
lot of damage to women, to other human beings that
has long term psychological impacts, right, I mean this is
so there's they're picking up on some thing, but it's
like they're dieing. I mean they're diagnosing a problem, but
(28:12):
their approach to it is wrong.
Speaker 3 (28:15):
Well, it's more than wrong there. It's like hot called
the kettle black, and it's like, you guys are both
doing the wrong thing here. If your solution to women
are promiscuous is to be promiscuous yourself, good luck with that. Like,
you know, you're not going to find eternal happiness that way.
And so I think the solution is men have to
stand up and be better men, and women have to
(28:37):
stand up and be better women. You know, I think
sometimes I hear in culture this blaming game of like
it's the women's fault or it's the men's fault, and
I think we're all at fault. I think every single
one of us are at fault in terms of if
we're participating in hookup culture, if we are participating in
hatred and division between the sexes, then we have a
(28:58):
responsibility to stop. And the message for young women out
there is a very similar message to young men, which
is pursue virtue. You know, virtues is like forgotten word,
but what is virtue? Self control, its respect, Virtue is
even modesty, modesty not just of dress, but of behavior.
It's understanding that what are you aiming for? What makes
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people most happy? This is what gets so crazy, Buck,
is when you look at the social data. All the
social data says that people who are monogamous, who get married,
who stay married, are the happiest and healthiest sexually and
physically in every aspect. They are the most economically successful.
And that's not just because they come from a rich background.
(29:40):
It's for both different socioeconomic levels. Regardless. If you are
monogamous and you seek then keep an intact family, you
will have better outcomes because you're going to be protected
from all of the nightmares that come from cheating, dishonesty,
breaking up your family, children out of wedlock, STIs, all
(30:02):
of the stress, economic stresses of that of having multiple households.
You're protected from those things. And again there's still mistakes
that can be made in a monogamous marriage, of course,
but the point is at large is better for society.
So that's a message, right. And then the other message
too is you are actually more likely to divorce if
you live together before marriage. Most people don't even know this.
They think if you mail together before marriage, you're actually
(30:24):
like somehow protected from messing up the marriage because you
really know you want to marry this person. Actually, if
you test drive the car, as you say, before getting
you know, buying the car, you're actually more likely to divorce.
Couples that are chased, you know, abstinate before marriage and
then get married are more likely to stay married. So
(30:44):
more people hear of this and understand why I think
it's going to change our culture on this.
Speaker 2 (30:48):
I'm going to give you a closing.
Speaker 1 (30:50):
I like to look for a point of optimism where
whenever we close, we'll get to that in one second,
just because we've talked about heavy some heavy stuff here,
important stuff, but heavy stuff. But and this is one
of these transitions. This is like a bad habit from
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last word for you. Everyone should check out the Lila
Rose podcast. She is talking about all the a lot
of the things we've touched on today and a whole
(31:55):
lot more. And it's good to hear a young lady
espousing a traditional value of morality and virtue so eloquently.
What makes you optimistic?
Speaker 3 (32:08):
What makes me optimistic? Because I think a lot of
people are waking up. I see I mean just the comments.
I mean, I'm sure you see these two, but comments
from people saying, you know, they're not even religious, they're
not Christian or Catholic or anything, but this makes a
lot of sense. I get DMS from people saying, oh
my gosh, I thought that I had to sleep with
my boyfriend because that's what everyone said you do. But
I don't want to do that anymore, want to I
(32:30):
want to save sex for marriage. I mean, people are
making these decisions. So, you know, people are looking for happiness,
they're looking for meaning, they're looking for solutions, and I
think a lot of the things we're talking about, our value,
our values are a solution to what a lot of
people are longing for. So I'm hopeful that there's cultural
revival happening and excited to yeah, be a part of it.
Speaker 1 (32:51):
Bilo Rose, thanks for being with us. We'll talk to
you soon Thanks for having
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