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Speaker 1 (00:00):
And welcome to Bucks Line. Matt McCoy along with our
best Buckeye coverage analysts and former buck Eyes, Bill Conley,
Jeff Logan. We'll have Roy Hall coming up at seven
o'clock as well as we talked Buckeyes with you after
seventy to nothing win last week over Graham Leak State
and now the in state battle, which means I'm really
looking forward to Bill Conley's No. Nine enemy at seven
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thirty five, when we find out a lot of us
already know a lot about the Ohio You Bobcats. There's
a lot of alumni in Columbus, a lot of fans.
Johnny Hill, we're gonna hear doing traffic an OU guy
and everything. But Bill will have some tidbits I'm.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
Sure some things you've never heard of.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
That is going to be fun at seven thirty five.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
Have you noticed how they have come out of the woodwork.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
The OU fans.
Speaker 4 (00:45):
Yeah, they're everywhere. They're everywhere, including my house.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (00:51):
Well, I've got a son that is a graduate of OU,
but he flew the Ohio state flag every football weekend.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
The pastor at my church, Pastor Doug, is all about OU.
I mean he any chance he gets to work it
into the sermon. He works the ou bobcats into his sermon.
So it's a unique vibe down there.
Speaker 4 (01:13):
I mean, a lot of the graduates, a lot of
the alums have done a really good job of connecting
with one another and staying close together. And I think
it's big enough to be a big place, but small
enough still to be able to have those relationships that
I think much different than in Ohio State.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
Yeah, very well respected university academically and athletically.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
Well, I'll tell you. I mean I I majored and
went to Ohio State and broadcasting, and I don't regret
it at all. It was great. But OU's when I
got to Ohio State I started finding out about some
of the things that and this is in the eighties.
Things have changed a little bit, but some of the
things that people interested in my field were doing at
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Ohio University, I was like, Man, maybe I should go
on there for the academic.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
Portion of it.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
So probably they're a great broadcast.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
Score party's doing Halloween. Yeah, that's one thing has done right.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
Speaking of that, By the way, our pregame show the
game is at seven o'clock, so you've been dying for
a primetime game. You get one Ohio, you not Texas,
but it should be. It's a beautiful night. It's gonna
be on the Peacot Network. But our pregame show starts
at four and Jeff on Friday nights worked with Marty Banister,
who a lot of you if you followed media in
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Columbus for a long time. Marty used to work on
the Ohio State netwhere he's got a long resume in broadcasting.
But he's now OU's broadcaster and so he'll join us
on the pregame show at four and you work with
him on Friday nights on the c CW DO in
high school for Yeah, so that'll be fun.
Speaker 4 (02:45):
And before then I worked with when I was on
the Ohigh Street Football Radio Network's when I got to
know Marty, when he and I and Terry Smith were working, Yeah,
and we really had a lot of fun during that era.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
Traveled to a lot of.
Speaker 4 (02:58):
Neat places and Marty's are He's a great guy, got
a great voice for radio. I tell him that he
doesn't have the face for TV, I know, but but
and and really does like Matt does a great job
of preparation and like a kid, Matt, You're the virtual
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cornucopia of worthless information.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
I am. But that's what it's all about.
Speaker 4 (03:23):
Is doing your homework and making sure you're prepared well
this game.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
You know, Bill, I think grambling. You know, we talked
about it last week that their head coach talked about, Look,
we know what's going to happen. We're playing the number
one team in the country. We're going to have fun. Listen.
I'm not suggesting that Ohio you is going to come
in here and win, but I think from a player
and a team standpoint, it's a different mindset than like
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last week. I think they just beat West Virginia, they're
thinking why not? Man Like I I My perception is
they're good enough program, that really good in the MAC
that let's go up there and shock the world. Like
you know, now, if Ohio State can punch him in
the face a couple of times, they take that out
of them. But don't you think that those kids, a
lot of them Ohio kids, are coming up here Saturday
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believing that we got a.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
Shot without a doubt. I mean without a doubt. I
mean they barely lost the Rutgers. They go and they
beat a West Virginia team. And really when you look
at the stats and things, they controlled that football game.
So they will get give us their best shot. But
it's not up to Western or to Ohio University's up
to Ohio State University. We have got to come out
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just like you said, control the tempo of the game.
That's the key. Because they had the ball forty minutes
against West Virginia West Virginia twenty yep, double their time, right.
They also had like a five minute time of possession
over Rutgers, so they want to get They got a
quarterback that's a dual threat guy, and that's what they
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wanted to play. Keep boy.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
Yeah, there's no doubt about it.
Speaker 4 (04:57):
And you compare fifteen years ago as when last time
Ohio State played Ohio and you guys will remember in
that game that it came down to the fourth quarter
before Ohio State put that game away and we had
to kind of convert.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
You're still coaching then this.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
Was the oh well in twenty ten, Ohio say it
actually hammered him two thousand and eight against one. I'm remembering, yes,
that one, you're right, it was like twenty five to fourteen,
and it came down to the It was a it
was a ballgame, yeah.
Speaker 4 (05:26):
And so yeah, the difference in roster makeup when you
look at Ohio University football today versus what you saw
maybe fifteen years ago. If you went down the hometowns
and schools and whatnot that the roster was.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
Made up of.
Speaker 4 (05:42):
It was all the hand me downs in the state
of Ohio, the guys that didn't get to go play
in the Big Ten that wanted to stay in the
state of Ohio. You look at their recruiting now, coach,
and it is all across the country. Oh yeah, park
and Navarro is an Arizona kids as an Arizona kid,
went to Central Florida, was with the Browns backup quarterback.
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Gabriel was there at Central Florida with him, and then
you know, he comes up here, he sits behind Curtis Rourke,
bailed out and went to West Or went to Indiana.
Now he's on the forty nine ers roster, and you know,
it's just it has changed dramatically where they have recognized
that if they're going to compete in football, they've got
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to compete as best they can. They can't hold a
candle to the financial part of it compared to Ohio State,
but they are making great effort to be able to
bring players in from other schools that are maybe not
being taken up by some of the power for.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
Yeah, at least half I think it is exactly half.
Eleven or twelve of their starters offensive dems are transfers,
which is the world in college football today.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
Yeah, that's pretty much everywhere. Look, there are games against
the Mac that are like, you know, oh, yes, but
this is a good MAC team. I mean, they're going
to compete for or the MAC championship. They are. I mean, well,
as you said, Bill, they had a chance to beat
Rutgers and probably would have not for a screwed up punt.
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Special teams cost them that game. So they're and again
not Rutgers is not on Ohio State's level, but they're
a team that makes a bowl out of the Big Ten.
So they're a mid to lower level talent wise Big
Ten football team. I would say that was coming in here.
I was thinking about that a little bit.
Speaker 4 (07:28):
Is like a Minnesota you put them in the Big
Ten or they purduing Minnesota. Yeah, I mean that's that's
kind you know, maybe Iowa to a degree, I mean right, oh, yeah, yeah,
I'm not sure I would go Iowa, but I mean
it would probably be a six to three game if
they played Iowa, just because that's the way Iowa.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
But I know what you're saying. Yes, yeah, and if
you fall asleep, you can make it interesting. But Ohio State, hopefully.
Speaker 4 (07:55):
And Toledo is probably the only other program that's a
good one too in my opinion, that would be able
to be anywhere competitive in the Big Ten Conference. Northern
Illinois has been there for you know, every now and then,
but I think it comes down to, at least at
this stage, Ohio University most recently, and the Toledo Rockets.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
Yeah. Can I ask you, guys, is there any because
in the pregame show before the Grambling game, if you
listened to us, we were saying, you're not going to
learn that much about Ohio State in this game, but
you got to go out, you got to execute, and
they check, check check. They did all that that They
far inferior team, They destroyed from start to finish, So
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kudos to them. Is there anything Jeff, that maybe you
learned out of that game that can be a positive
going forward. I'm kind of leading you into like some
of the young kids we saw in particular. You know,
you've been high on bo Jackson, even though he didn't
get a carry against Texas. You said, this kid could
be heard from and he did what you would think
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he could do right in a game like does this
put him in the conversation to play when it matters?
Speaker 4 (09:04):
I think it improves the level of trust that the
team has in him. And it's not just one hundred
and eight yards or the fifty one yard touchdown that
go into that equation. How did he do in protection?
How did he do when there were changes of the
play at the line of scrimmage? Did he understand his assignments.
He's still a true freshman, but you take a kid
like him, And then I thought the fact that Lincoln
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Keenholts was able to go in the game when he
did yep, and perform at the level that he did,
I thought that was incredibly important. We didn't have that
advantage a couple of years ago, getting the backup into
some games. And I think this game, it's not going
to be anywhere near the seventy to nothing game.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
I mean, again, it is up.
Speaker 4 (09:46):
To Ohio State, but I think it is critically important
for Lincoln Keenholts to continue to get reps in games
like this, and the first team owes them the response
the right to do so.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
Bill, Yeah, you're right. And here's the thing that was
impressed with is it you're coaching. You're winning the game
a team you should beat and did beat. But when
the second guys go in to some of the third guys,
you're worried about a drop off. You worry about going
in and you know, fumbling the ball or giving up
a big play on defense or something like that. But
these guys came out and played at a very high
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level for being their first time on the field. Line
of them.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
Yeah. The other name that I think came out he
was named the team's defensive player of the game. Riley Pettijohn,
who we've heard about it and he did circle in
some snaps against Texas because James Lauren Ice is so
high on him. But you can see what they see
in him.
Speaker 4 (10:41):
Yeah, they talk about high ceilings and this is certainly
one of those guys that has the capacity to be
really special down the road. So when you get an
opportunity like that against a team like Texas and the
trust of James laurniis behind you, and you think about it,
a true freshman being in a football game like that
and getting the defensive player of the game.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
He wasn't even a starter.
Speaker 4 (11:02):
Had something down, had something to do with the fact
that the starters didn't play all that much, but still
you cannot deny his performance and scoring and being aware
of what's going on certainly makes a huge difference.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
Yeah, you know, I was happy to the way the
coaching staff. They didn't just play vanilla. They still played good,
solid football. You know, you saw some different looks by
Matt Patricia's defense and everything, so you know they had
to know what they had to do when they went
in there. It wasn't like they're just going to go
out there and show up.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (11:32):
By the way, guys, the idea of bold predictions got
blown out of the ballpark against Grambling because everything that
could have happened in a game, including all the passes
and touchdowns to tight ends and five score ye quarterback throw.
I mean, we acted like we were and we I
think we checked every box.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
Yes, every every bird prediction we made came through true.
Speaker 4 (11:57):
But everything that could possibly come true in a game
when you score seventy points does come true. So all
of the future bold predictions, gentlemen, are going to be
measured against the Grampling game.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
That's exactly right, Man McCoy along with Bill Conley and
Jeff Logan short segment here as we are close to
the bottom of the hour, coming up after the bottom
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of the hour that we'll start taking phone calls at
eight two, one, nine, eight eighty six or one eight
hundred and sixty ten WTV. And as we continue on
bucks line, I always have my Twitter page open. I'm
at at Matt McCoy radio, and this is from Chuck
with Kasmeric playing against his former team. A question how
many players on the current Ohio You roster could help
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Ohio State. You know, obviously Will Will kas Merrick. He's
wondering about the talent that OU has. Are there players?
Are there players that Ohio State will play against OU
that could work their way into the rotation at Ohio State.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
Maybe as a second probably no one's No one has
their planned if they'd have gleb Downs or Jeremi Smith.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
I recognize that.
Speaker 4 (13:15):
I mean, if they had anybody on the roster that
was good enough to play, and we had a hole,
we would have gone.
Speaker 3 (13:19):
And gotten them in the first.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
Place, which is why will Will Kasmerrik came here a
couple of years exactly. We need tight end.
Speaker 4 (13:25):
We needed to fill a hole there to do that.
They've got a really good wide receiver. I think the
quarterback would be a terrific addition to anybody's program, just
simply because of his experience and the fact that he
is a true dual threat quarterback.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
Yeah. I mean, he's the hat and he's you know,
he's a guy's been around it was like fifty year.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
Yes, I would answer it this way to the text
that they if you asked that Big ten wise, like
could they do they have players that could help Big
ten rosters, no doubt with without question, Ohio State's a
different level, different level, and I'm not saying that there
aren't players that could that are better than some players
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at Ohio State. It's just cracking that rotation with the
Buckeyes right now would be very difficult. Matt McCoy with
Jeff Logan and Bill Connley, as we talk buck eyes
with you, Ohio State and Ohio You coming up at
seven o'clock on Saturday, will be joined at seven o'clock.
Roy Hall, the other member of our team. He's doing
his high school coaching. He'll be joining us as well
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as we talk buck eyes with you, Bill coming up
an hour from now with No. Nine Enemy about the
Ohio you Bobcats. You know, I had that Twitter comment
about you know, are there any talented players on Ohio
you that could play at Ohio State? And you know,
talking about the Cosmeric transfer and everything. A lot of
times it goes the other way, guys, where players at
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Ohio State that maybe aren't having cracked the two deep
after a couple of years, you know, had to Athens.
Remember remember Sam Wiglett's the wide receiver that he was.
I think he was a walk on here, but they
thought really highly of him. But he transferred out and
had a great career there, so much so that he
ended up on the Los Angeles Rams roster for a year.
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Now he's playing in the UFL. So a lot of
times it works the other way, where you know, guys
may not be happy at Ohio. Maybe they're happy, but
they want to play. I guess it would be a
better way to put it. And that's a good program
and an opportunity to maybe play.
Speaker 4 (15:24):
And Brian Hartline was part of that whole process of
developing that young man, and I think Brian was also
responsible for encouraging him to go someplace where he could
compete and get time on the field.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
Yeah, you're good enough to play somewhere, absolutely, Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
I'll tell you another example, one of the really good
ones that we were going to put him on scholarship
at the end of spring practice, but he ended up
I broke his ankle or something like that, and so
we're going to, you know, do it after camp in August.
And then somebody talked to him in the transfer and
before August camp. Mike Furry, Oh yeah, another one ye
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played whill you played? You know, Northern Iowa was when
he went to and then played for the.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
Ended up going to the NFL. It does happen, for sure.
Our friend Jim is on the line. Jim, thanks for
calling bucks Line. How you doing tonight?
Speaker 5 (16:16):
I'm doing great. How are you guys?
Speaker 1 (16:18):
Good? Good?
Speaker 5 (16:19):
A question about the proposed transfer portal changes that the
NCAA has talked about and you know, kicked around about
going from U two windows to one window and so forth.
I know they're saying that a lot of the Big
Ten coaches, including Ryan Day, are totally opposed to it,
but yet the SEC coaches seem to be in favor
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of it. So I wanted to see what you guys
thought and kick it around a little bit and see
what where you think that needs to go.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
All right, thanks very much. And Ryan Day came out
this week and as Jim mentioned, Bill was not happy
about it and said, you know, the Big Ten coaches
that feel that way. For those that don't know, there
used to be two transfer windows, one in the winter,
one in the spring. So like if you competed at
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spring football and realized, you know, I need to go
somewhere else, you could go. They've limited it to one.
But the window is during the college football playoff, so
you're gonna have players, you know, if Ohio State is
indeed in the playoff, and we all think that they
have a great chance to be, and there's a kid
on Ohio State's roster that wants to go somewhere else,
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he has to make that decision while the team he's
actively playing on is in a playoff run. And that
timing of it is just awful, Bill.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
And that's a lot I think Ryan Day's major concern
is but here's your issue. I don't know if there
is a good time and what he was talking about,
Ryan Day, you know, that's the time. Academically, you can't
just transfer and get into another school at that time.
The semesters has already started, right, so it can be
a mess.
Speaker 1 (17:59):
That's why I'm I mean, I would say, like, figure
it out somehow, but it's the window. To me, it
makes sense to start after the national championship game. But Bill,
that's the that's the problem, is that the academic calendar
for the winner has already started. So like that's always
driven things.
Speaker 3 (18:17):
Are you kidding me?
Speaker 1 (18:19):
To me, it's like figure it out.
Speaker 4 (18:20):
I mean, but they need to make it early enough
so that that transfer can participate in spring drills with
that team that he wants to transfer to.
Speaker 3 (18:31):
The value of being part of the system is critical.
Speaker 4 (18:36):
So you know, when do you do it? I mean
the summer, you know, the end of the regular season.
You know, that doesn't help you. I don't know that
there is a really good time to do this with you,
you know, and I think teams that are you know,
into the playoffs sot to be granted some sort of.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
Waiver. I agree. It's crazy, but.
Speaker 4 (19:02):
We talked about this last weekend on our show. I
mean take Ohio State for example. You're you're in the
quarterfinals of the playoffs, this you know coming up this year,
and all of a sudden, your backup quarterback.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
Decides I need to go. Yeah. Well, last year Devin
Brown decided he needed to go. However, he stayed with
the program through the National Championship Game. There were a
couple guys that did hero canoe transferred to Texas, but
he stayed with Ohio State through the National Championship game
and everything. I don't know how that works because the
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I'm sure cal which is where Devin Brown went, I'm
sure there semester had started same thing with Texas. But
so you can stay, but it's just an awkward situation.
It's very difficult. Thanks for the call, Jim Dovetailing off
of that, kind of a similar question that I got.
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You can email me during the week Matt McCoy at
iHeartMedia dot com. I got a bunch of them, but
this one came from Dale. I'll shorten it though, talking
about the transfer portal changes. My question is why doesn't
the NCAA listen to coaches like Ryan Day and the
people who are actually involved in the sport when they
make these decisions, and I don't know whether they do
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or they don't.
Speaker 2 (20:18):
Bill Well, the coaches don't vote. I mean they can
suggest it, but the athletic directors, you know, they have
to really present the stuff in the presence of the university,
are the ones that really have the final say.
Speaker 4 (20:30):
They end up being the voice of the coaches, and
the coaches are most certainly telling the director of athletics
the president of university what their preference would be. But
when it comes to voicing things at that level, it
is is left of the administration. It's not left of
the coaches.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
Who makes decisions on rules. For fifteen years, we've been
talking about getting tweets about the brokenness of the targeting rule,
that it's too penal and everything. You hear coaches all
the country complain that his intent wasn't there. I understand
players safety, but do we have to kick him out
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and all that stuff? And nothing has changed like the
I don't hear a single coach have you say this
rule is perfect. I love it, like they all. I
think they recognize, like Ryan Day has that he recognizes
the player's safety thing and that there needs to be
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a penalty and all of that stuff. It's the kicking
out for uh the rest of the game or a
half or something that I think people would like to
see adjusted based on the kind of hit. So how
why is that not changed when I hear every coach
in the country say this needs to change.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
Well, because the first thing you said, it's a safety thing,
so you know, all the doctors are going to want done.
Speaker 1 (21:51):
And what person if they're afraid of litigation or something.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
Yeah, that's a lawsuit way to happen.
Speaker 1 (21:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (21:58):
In the NCAA does have subcommittee for football rules committee
that basically make the recommendations that goes on. That group
is made up of athletic directors, coaches, former players, and administrators.
So you know, it's not like there's just a bunch
of knuckleheads sitting back there. But they look at the
rules all the time. And you know, the last couple
of years, we've had a couple of important rule changes.
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The clock change, yep, in terms of continuation until the
last two minutes of each half, there have been changes there.
I mean, there's there's a lot of different things that
are going on that coaches adapt to. I mean, Ohio
State went from a no huddle situation trying to get
seventy eighty plays again.
Speaker 1 (22:37):
When Justin Fields was here and CJ. Stroud was here,
it was yeah, they were talking about here.
Speaker 4 (22:43):
And what is Ryan Day talking about now? Slowing the
game down? Ryan Day, slow the game down. It's because
of the rules in the game. And now they're trying
to get sixty snaps on offense. Well, sixty used to
be like an awful number to Ohio State. They wanted
to get seventy seventy five. Yeah, but they're pleased now
with about sixty snaps a game.
Speaker 3 (23:05):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (23:05):
Yeah. I mean that Texas win was an old school,
nineteen eighty style football game. It just was everybody was
fuddling it on every play. Texas went no huddle. But
from Ohio State standpoint, well you've noticed how well that
is shortened. Shortened the games right, except for replace, except
for the five minute commercial breaks for Fox. Yeah, that's right.
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Thanks much to all of you. I got it quite
a few good emails this week. Going to do one here,
but you can always email me during the week. Matt
McCoy at iHeartRadio dot com and get to those on
bucks line on Thursday night, Bill Conley, Jeff Logan with me.
We've got Roy Hall coming up in a few minutes.
As we talked Buckeyes and Bobcats with you. The game
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coming up at seven o'clock on Saturday. Our Best Buckeye
Coverage pregame show will start at four from that email inbox,
and this one is directed to coach Bill Conley. Okay,
a question for Coach Conley. Our coach is ever secretly
happy when a player makes a mistake. When Julian saying
when Julian's saying through the interception last week, I told
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my son it was probably good for him. It didn't
cost the Buckeyes anything in a lopsided game, but maybe
he learns from it and doesn't repeat the mistake in
a closer game down the road. I was just wondering
if Ryan Day got more out of saying throwing that
pick than he would have if he had finished the
game without an incompletion and another touchdown. Thanks, loved the show,
and that's from Jeff Well.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
I think part of what he said is true. It
was a great teaching moment, But to say you want
to see him throw the inner setting, so that would
happen not so much. But I got to say this,
if it had to happen in a game, that would
be the game. Yeah, because you're gonna beat him anyway.
Speaker 4 (24:50):
You'd rather that mistake happen in a practice where you
can correct it on the scene, as opposed to a
game where it's irreversible.
Speaker 3 (24:58):
And yes, it was a learning experience.
Speaker 2 (25:00):
You can beat a team two hundred to nothing. Believe me.
Coaches are going to find things to coach them up
about mistakes, typical mistakes, fundamentals, you know, bed footwork or
something like that. There's plenty of things coaches can find.
Speaker 4 (25:14):
I love Ryan Day's press conference this week, guys, I
hope you were able to listen in on some of
that stuff. They were talking about this the defensive coordinator
Matt Patricia. Yeah, and they asked the question, how did
you and Matt decide that he was going to go
sit up in the press box And he says just basically,
it was his decision.
Speaker 3 (25:34):
I just tell him get off the field on third down.
Speaker 1 (25:37):
That's all the matters.
Speaker 4 (25:39):
I don't care where you're watching the game from. Yah,
get that defense off the field on third down. That
is all that matters in the circumstance.
Speaker 2 (25:46):
And I tell you what that right there, what you said,
Jeff is the key this week. I agree, we've got
to get them off the field well.
Speaker 3 (25:53):
And two things.
Speaker 4 (25:54):
There's the third down situation in this game is going
to be crucial because Ohio University in their first two
games against Rutgers and West Virginia they only allowed thirteen
percent of third down conversions Defensively, they got off the
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field all right, and that's how they had that ball
control like they've had. And so Ohio State, which is
decent on third down conversions again again against Texas and Grambling,
how do you judge that? I think clearly Ohio University
has better statistics to rely on than anything.
Speaker 1 (26:34):
You can look at.
Speaker 4 (26:35):
Ohio State right now and know where is our strengths
and weaknesses.
Speaker 3 (26:39):
Right, I agree, But when you are and that.
Speaker 4 (26:42):
Puts them number four in the country after just a
couple of weeks on third down conversion defense, they do
a terrific job in that regard and.
Speaker 2 (26:51):
They've only given up six points total in the second
half this season.
Speaker 1 (26:58):
Yeah, that game was a huge win for them last week.
And as you said, Bill, I mean they if you
looked at it, they controlled the game forty minutes and
it's not like they played eight minutes of possession. They
played ball state both taps. Yeah, they're legitimate games. Yeah,
you're right, you can learn a lot. Yeah, for sure.
Regarding Julian Saying's Day, Bill, he was, he was terrific.
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I mean, you know, again understanding the the opponent. But
there were still some throws like the touchdown pass to
the tight end down the seam was like that was
a perfect throw, Like the coverage wasn't terrible. You can
see what they see in him put it that way.
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Despite that interception.
Speaker 2 (27:42):
You know, the coaching staff, it says how good Ryan
Day isn't the staff we talked last spring about, Man,
how are they going to beat the quarterback spot, you
know now going out and get a transfer guy. Yeah,
two guys that really haven't played in the heat of
battle and all this stuff. And they coaching Steff's got
to be happy with both their guys right now, the
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way they've performed so far.
Speaker 1 (28:04):
The thing too, with if you look at Ryan Day
and the quarterbacks and Jeff, they get better, as like
Will Howard how he was in week one last year
to how he was in the playoff run night and
day c J. Stroud his first year as a starter. Remember,
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like people wanted to throw him by the way he
was at the end of the year, like not even
in the same ballpark. So if you extrapolate that, and
that's what we see from Julian saying, and I anticipate
that with the way a coach Day has been able
to develop quarterbacks, he could be a heck of a player.
I mean, he already is, I think, but he could
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be a heck of a player by the end of
the year.
Speaker 4 (28:48):
Well, I think, knowing the game as we do and
knowing the history of the position, you're going to struggle
at some point in time. There are going to be
issues in any quarterbacks development that he's going to have
to learn from.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
You just hope it's not.
Speaker 4 (29:02):
Too much of an expense, whatever that development might be.
But you know, to be start off the year thirty
one out of thirty nine completing almost eighty percent of
his passes and only one pick and what five touchdown passes?
Speaker 3 (29:15):
You know, the strength of this.
Speaker 4 (29:16):
Kid is he seems to have a good head, He
seems to make good decisions and We kept hearing about
this quick release, and it's very evident when you watch
him throw.
Speaker 3 (29:27):
He is unique in terms of getting the ball out quickly.
Speaker 1 (29:31):
And I'll say this, kudos the offensive line because they
protected the heck out of here so far, even against
that Texas defense.
And welcome to Bucks Line. Matt McCoy along with our
best Buckeye coverage analysts and former buck Eyes, Bill Conley,
Jeff Logan. We'll have Roy Hall coming up at seven
o'clock as well as we talked Buckeyes with you after
seventy to nothing win last week over Graham Leak State
and now the in state battle, which means I'm really
looking forward to Bill Conley's No. Nine enemy at seven
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thirty five, when we find out a lot of us
already know a lot about the Ohio You Bobcats. There's
a lot of alumni in Columbus, a lot of fans.
Johnny Hill, we're gonna hear doing traffic an OU guy
and everything. But Bill will have some tidbits I'm.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
Sure some things you've never heard of.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
That is going to be fun at seven thirty five.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
Have you noticed how they have come out of the woodwork.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
The OU fans.
Speaker 4 (00:45):
Yeah, they're everywhere. They're everywhere, including my house.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (00:51):
Well, I've got a son that is a graduate of OU,
but he flew the Ohio state flag every football weekend.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
The pastor at my church, Pastor Doug, is all about OU.
I mean he any chance he gets to work it
into the sermon. He works the ou bobcats into his sermon.
So it's a unique vibe down there.
Speaker 4 (01:13):
I mean, a lot of the graduates, a lot of
the alums have done a really good job of connecting
with one another and staying close together. And I think
it's big enough to be a big place, but small
enough still to be able to have those relationships that
I think much different than in Ohio State.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
Yeah, very well respected university academically and athletically.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
Well, I'll tell you. I mean I I majored and
went to Ohio State and broadcasting, and I don't regret
it at all. It was great. But OU's when I
got to Ohio State I started finding out about some
of the things that and this is in the eighties.
Things have changed a little bit, but some of the
things that people interested in my field were doing at
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Ohio University, I was like, Man, maybe I should go
on there for the academic.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
Portion of it.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
So probably they're a great broadcast.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
Score party's doing Halloween. Yeah, that's one thing has done right.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
Speaking of that, By the way, our pregame show the
game is at seven o'clock, so you've been dying for
a primetime game. You get one Ohio, you not Texas,
but it should be. It's a beautiful night. It's gonna
be on the Peacot Network. But our pregame show starts
at four and Jeff on Friday nights worked with Marty Banister,
who a lot of you if you followed media in
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Columbus for a long time. Marty used to work on
the Ohio State netwhere he's got a long resume in broadcasting.
But he's now OU's broadcaster and so he'll join us
on the pregame show at four and you work with
him on Friday nights on the c CW DO in
high school for Yeah, so that'll be fun.
Speaker 4 (02:45):
And before then I worked with when I was on
the Ohigh Street Football Radio Network's when I got to
know Marty, when he and I and Terry Smith were working, Yeah,
and we really had a lot of fun during that era.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
Traveled to a lot of.
Speaker 4 (02:58):
Neat places and Marty's are He's a great guy, got
a great voice for radio. I tell him that he
doesn't have the face for TV, I know, but but
and and really does like Matt does a great job
of preparation and like a kid, Matt, You're the virtual
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cornucopia of worthless information.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
I am. But that's what it's all about.
Speaker 4 (03:23):
Is doing your homework and making sure you're prepared well
this game.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
You know, Bill, I think grambling. You know, we talked
about it last week that their head coach talked about, Look,
we know what's going to happen. We're playing the number
one team in the country. We're going to have fun. Listen.
I'm not suggesting that Ohio you is going to come
in here and win, but I think from a player
and a team standpoint, it's a different mindset than like
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last week. I think they just beat West Virginia, they're
thinking why not? Man Like I I My perception is
they're good enough program, that really good in the MAC
that let's go up there and shock the world. Like
you know, now, if Ohio State can punch him in
the face a couple of times, they take that out
of them. But don't you think that those kids, a
lot of them Ohio kids, are coming up here Saturday
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believing that we got a.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
Shot without a doubt. I mean without a doubt. I
mean they barely lost the Rutgers. They go and they
beat a West Virginia team. And really when you look
at the stats and things, they controlled that football game.
So they will get give us their best shot. But
it's not up to Western or to Ohio University's up
to Ohio State University. We have got to come out
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just like you said, control the tempo of the game.
That's the key. Because they had the ball forty minutes
against West Virginia West Virginia twenty yep, double their time, right.
They also had like a five minute time of possession
over Rutgers, so they want to get They got a
quarterback that's a dual threat guy, and that's what they
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wanted to play. Keep boy.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
Yeah, there's no doubt about it.
Speaker 4 (04:57):
And you compare fifteen years ago as when last time
Ohio State played Ohio and you guys will remember in
that game that it came down to the fourth quarter
before Ohio State put that game away and we had
to kind of convert.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
You're still coaching then this.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
Was the oh well in twenty ten, Ohio say it
actually hammered him two thousand and eight against one. I'm remembering, yes,
that one, you're right, it was like twenty five to fourteen,
and it came down to the It was a it
was a ballgame, yeah.
Speaker 4 (05:26):
And so yeah, the difference in roster makeup when you
look at Ohio University football today versus what you saw
maybe fifteen years ago. If you went down the hometowns
and schools and whatnot that the roster was.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
Made up of.
Speaker 4 (05:42):
It was all the hand me downs in the state
of Ohio, the guys that didn't get to go play
in the Big Ten that wanted to stay in the
state of Ohio. You look at their recruiting now, coach,
and it is all across the country. Oh yeah, park
and Navarro is an Arizona kids as an Arizona kid,
went to Central Florida, was with the Browns backup quarterback.
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Gabriel was there at Central Florida with him, and then
you know, he comes up here, he sits behind Curtis Rourke,
bailed out and went to West Or went to Indiana.
Now he's on the forty nine ers roster, and you know,
it's just it has changed dramatically where they have recognized
that if they're going to compete in football, they've got
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to compete as best they can. They can't hold a
candle to the financial part of it compared to Ohio State,
but they are making great effort to be able to
bring players in from other schools that are maybe not
being taken up by some of the power for.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
Yeah, at least half I think it is exactly half.
Eleven or twelve of their starters offensive dems are transfers,
which is the world in college football today.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
Yeah, that's pretty much everywhere. Look, there are games against
the Mac that are like, you know, oh, yes, but
this is a good MAC team. I mean, they're going
to compete for or the MAC championship. They are. I mean, well,
as you said, Bill, they had a chance to beat
Rutgers and probably would have not for a screwed up punt.
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Special teams cost them that game. So they're and again
not Rutgers is not on Ohio State's level, but they're
a team that makes a bowl out of the Big Ten.
So they're a mid to lower level talent wise Big
Ten football team. I would say that was coming in here.
I was thinking about that a little bit.
Speaker 4 (07:28):
Is like a Minnesota you put them in the Big
Ten or they purduing Minnesota. Yeah, I mean that's that's
kind you know, maybe Iowa to a degree, I mean right, oh, yeah, yeah,
I'm not sure I would go Iowa, but I mean
it would probably be a six to three game if
they played Iowa, just because that's the way Iowa.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
But I know what you're saying. Yes, yeah, and if
you fall asleep, you can make it interesting. But Ohio State, hopefully.
Speaker 4 (07:55):
And Toledo is probably the only other program that's a
good one too in my opinion, that would be able
to be anywhere competitive in the Big Ten Conference. Northern
Illinois has been there for you know, every now and then,
but I think it comes down to, at least at
this stage, Ohio University most recently, and the Toledo Rockets.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
Yeah. Can I ask you, guys, is there any because
in the pregame show before the Grambling game, if you
listened to us, we were saying, you're not going to
learn that much about Ohio State in this game, but
you got to go out, you got to execute, and
they check, check check. They did all that that They
far inferior team, They destroyed from start to finish, So
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kudos to them. Is there anything Jeff, that maybe you
learned out of that game that can be a positive
going forward. I'm kind of leading you into like some
of the young kids we saw in particular. You know,
you've been high on bo Jackson, even though he didn't
get a carry against Texas. You said, this kid could
be heard from and he did what you would think
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he could do right in a game like does this
put him in the conversation to play when it matters?
Speaker 4 (09:04):
I think it improves the level of trust that the
team has in him. And it's not just one hundred
and eight yards or the fifty one yard touchdown that
go into that equation. How did he do in protection?
How did he do when there were changes of the
play at the line of scrimmage? Did he understand his assignments.
He's still a true freshman, but you take a kid
like him, And then I thought the fact that Lincoln
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Keenholts was able to go in the game when he
did yep, and perform at the level that he did,
I thought that was incredibly important. We didn't have that
advantage a couple of years ago, getting the backup into
some games. And I think this game, it's not going
to be anywhere near the seventy to nothing game.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
I mean, again, it is up.
Speaker 4 (09:46):
To Ohio State, but I think it is critically important
for Lincoln Keenholts to continue to get reps in games
like this, and the first team owes them the response
the right to do so.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
Bill, Yeah, you're right. And here's the thing that was
impressed with is it you're coaching. You're winning the game
a team you should beat and did beat. But when
the second guys go in to some of the third guys,
you're worried about a drop off. You worry about going
in and you know, fumbling the ball or giving up
a big play on defense or something like that. But
these guys came out and played at a very high
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level for being their first time on the field. Line
of them.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
Yeah. The other name that I think came out he
was named the team's defensive player of the game. Riley Pettijohn,
who we've heard about it and he did circle in
some snaps against Texas because James Lauren Ice is so
high on him. But you can see what they see
in him.
Speaker 4 (10:41):
Yeah, they talk about high ceilings and this is certainly
one of those guys that has the capacity to be
really special down the road. So when you get an
opportunity like that against a team like Texas and the
trust of James laurniis behind you, and you think about it,
a true freshman being in a football game like that
and getting the defensive player of the game.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
He wasn't even a starter.
Speaker 4 (11:02):
Had something down, had something to do with the fact
that the starters didn't play all that much, but still
you cannot deny his performance and scoring and being aware
of what's going on certainly makes a huge difference.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
Yeah, you know, I was happy to the way the
coaching staff. They didn't just play vanilla. They still played good,
solid football. You know, you saw some different looks by
Matt Patricia's defense and everything, so you know they had
to know what they had to do when they went
in there. It wasn't like they're just going to go
out there and show up.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (11:32):
By the way, guys, the idea of bold predictions got
blown out of the ballpark against Grambling because everything that
could have happened in a game, including all the passes
and touchdowns to tight ends and five score ye quarterback throw.
I mean, we acted like we were and we I
think we checked every box.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
Yes, every every bird prediction we made came through true.
Speaker 4 (11:57):
But everything that could possibly come true in a game
when you score seventy points does come true. So all
of the future bold predictions, gentlemen, are going to be
measured against the Grampling game.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
That's exactly right, Man McCoy along with Bill Conley and
Jeff Logan short segment here as we are close to
the bottom of the hour, coming up after the bottom
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of the hour that we'll start taking phone calls at
eight two, one, nine, eight eighty six or one eight
hundred and sixty ten WTV. And as we continue on
bucks line, I always have my Twitter page open. I'm
at at Matt McCoy radio, and this is from Chuck
with Kasmeric playing against his former team. A question how
many players on the current Ohio You roster could help
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Ohio State. You know, obviously Will Will kas Merrick. He's
wondering about the talent that OU has. Are there players?
Are there players that Ohio State will play against OU
that could work their way into the rotation at Ohio State.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
Maybe as a second probably no one's No one has
their planned if they'd have gleb Downs or Jeremi Smith.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
I recognize that.
Speaker 4 (13:15):
I mean, if they had anybody on the roster that
was good enough to play, and we had a hole,
we would have gone.
Speaker 3 (13:19):
And gotten them in the first.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
Place, which is why will Will Kasmerrik came here a
couple of years exactly. We need tight end.
Speaker 4 (13:25):
We needed to fill a hole there to do that.
They've got a really good wide receiver. I think the
quarterback would be a terrific addition to anybody's program, just
simply because of his experience and the fact that he
is a true dual threat quarterback.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
Yeah. I mean, he's the hat and he's you know,
he's a guy's been around it was like fifty year.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
Yes, I would answer it this way to the text
that they if you asked that Big ten wise, like
could they do they have players that could help Big
ten rosters, no doubt with without question, Ohio State's a
different level, different level, and I'm not saying that there
aren't players that could that are better than some players
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at Ohio State. It's just cracking that rotation with the
Buckeyes right now would be very difficult. Matt McCoy with
Jeff Logan and Bill Connley, as we talk buck eyes
with you, Ohio State and Ohio You coming up at
seven o'clock on Saturday, will be joined at seven o'clock.
Roy Hall, the other member of our team. He's doing
his high school coaching. He'll be joining us as well
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as we talk buck eyes with you, Bill coming up
an hour from now with No. Nine Enemy about the
Ohio you Bobcats. You know, I had that Twitter comment
about you know, are there any talented players on Ohio
you that could play at Ohio State? And you know,
talking about the Cosmeric transfer and everything. A lot of
times it goes the other way, guys, where players at
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Ohio State that maybe aren't having cracked the two deep
after a couple of years, you know, had to Athens.
Remember remember Sam Wiglett's the wide receiver that he was.
I think he was a walk on here, but they
thought really highly of him. But he transferred out and
had a great career there, so much so that he
ended up on the Los Angeles Rams roster for a year.
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Now he's playing in the UFL. So a lot of
times it works the other way, where you know, guys
may not be happy at Ohio. Maybe they're happy, but
they want to play. I guess it would be a
better way to put it. And that's a good program
and an opportunity to maybe play.
Speaker 4 (15:24):
And Brian Hartline was part of that whole process of
developing that young man, and I think Brian was also
responsible for encouraging him to go someplace where he could
compete and get time on the field.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
Yeah, you're good enough to play somewhere, absolutely, Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
I'll tell you another example, one of the really good
ones that we were going to put him on scholarship
at the end of spring practice, but he ended up
I broke his ankle or something like that, and so
we're going to, you know, do it after camp in August.
And then somebody talked to him in the transfer and
before August camp. Mike Furry, Oh yeah, another one ye
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played whill you played? You know, Northern Iowa was when
he went to and then played for the.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
Ended up going to the NFL. It does happen, for sure.
Our friend Jim is on the line. Jim, thanks for
calling bucks Line. How you doing tonight?
Speaker 5 (16:16):
I'm doing great. How are you guys?
Speaker 1 (16:18):
Good? Good?
Speaker 5 (16:19):
A question about the proposed transfer portal changes that the
NCAA has talked about and you know, kicked around about
going from U two windows to one window and so forth.
I know they're saying that a lot of the Big
Ten coaches, including Ryan Day, are totally opposed to it,
but yet the SEC coaches seem to be in favor
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of it. So I wanted to see what you guys
thought and kick it around a little bit and see
what where you think that needs to go.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
All right, thanks very much. And Ryan Day came out
this week and as Jim mentioned, Bill was not happy
about it and said, you know, the Big Ten coaches
that feel that way. For those that don't know, there
used to be two transfer windows, one in the winter,
one in the spring. So like if you competed at
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spring football and realized, you know, I need to go
somewhere else, you could go. They've limited it to one.
But the window is during the college football playoff, so
you're gonna have players, you know, if Ohio State is
indeed in the playoff, and we all think that they
have a great chance to be, and there's a kid
on Ohio State's roster that wants to go somewhere else,
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he has to make that decision while the team he's
actively playing on is in a playoff run. And that
timing of it is just awful, Bill.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
And that's a lot I think Ryan Day's major concern
is but here's your issue. I don't know if there
is a good time and what he was talking about,
Ryan Day, you know, that's the time. Academically, you can't
just transfer and get into another school at that time.
The semesters has already started, right, so it can be
a mess.
Speaker 1 (17:59):
That's why I'm I mean, I would say, like, figure
it out somehow, but it's the window. To me, it
makes sense to start after the national championship game. But Bill,
that's the that's the problem, is that the academic calendar
for the winner has already started. So like that's always
driven things.
Speaker 3 (18:17):
Are you kidding me?
Speaker 1 (18:19):
To me, it's like figure it out.
Speaker 4 (18:20):
I mean, but they need to make it early enough
so that that transfer can participate in spring drills with
that team that he wants to transfer to.
Speaker 3 (18:31):
The value of being part of the system is critical.
Speaker 4 (18:36):
So you know, when do you do it? I mean
the summer, you know, the end of the regular season.
You know, that doesn't help you. I don't know that
there is a really good time to do this with you,
you know, and I think teams that are you know,
into the playoffs sot to be granted some sort of.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
Waiver. I agree. It's crazy, but.
Speaker 4 (19:02):
We talked about this last weekend on our show. I
mean take Ohio State for example. You're you're in the
quarterfinals of the playoffs, this you know coming up this year,
and all of a sudden, your backup quarterback.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
Decides I need to go. Yeah. Well, last year Devin
Brown decided he needed to go. However, he stayed with
the program through the National Championship Game. There were a
couple guys that did hero canoe transferred to Texas, but
he stayed with Ohio State through the National Championship game
and everything. I don't know how that works because the
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I'm sure cal which is where Devin Brown went, I'm
sure there semester had started same thing with Texas. But
so you can stay, but it's just an awkward situation.
It's very difficult. Thanks for the call, Jim Dovetailing off
of that, kind of a similar question that I got.
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You can email me during the week Matt McCoy at
iHeartMedia dot com. I got a bunch of them, but
this one came from Dale. I'll shorten it though, talking
about the transfer portal changes. My question is why doesn't
the NCAA listen to coaches like Ryan Day and the
people who are actually involved in the sport when they
make these decisions, and I don't know whether they do
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or they don't.
Speaker 2 (20:18):
Bill Well, the coaches don't vote. I mean they can
suggest it, but the athletic directors, you know, they have
to really present the stuff in the presence of the university,
are the ones that really have the final say.
Speaker 4 (20:30):
They end up being the voice of the coaches, and
the coaches are most certainly telling the director of athletics
the president of university what their preference would be. But
when it comes to voicing things at that level, it
is is left of the administration. It's not left of
the coaches.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
Who makes decisions on rules. For fifteen years, we've been
talking about getting tweets about the brokenness of the targeting rule,
that it's too penal and everything. You hear coaches all
the country complain that his intent wasn't there. I understand
players safety, but do we have to kick him out
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and all that stuff? And nothing has changed like the
I don't hear a single coach have you say this
rule is perfect. I love it, like they all. I
think they recognize, like Ryan Day has that he recognizes
the player's safety thing and that there needs to be
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a penalty and all of that stuff. It's the kicking
out for uh the rest of the game or a
half or something that I think people would like to
see adjusted based on the kind of hit. So how
why is that not changed when I hear every coach
in the country say this needs to change.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
Well, because the first thing you said, it's a safety thing,
so you know, all the doctors are going to want done.
Speaker 1 (21:51):
And what person if they're afraid of litigation or something.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
Yeah, that's a lawsuit way to happen.
Speaker 1 (21:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (21:58):
In the NCAA does have subcommittee for football rules committee
that basically make the recommendations that goes on. That group
is made up of athletic directors, coaches, former players, and administrators.
So you know, it's not like there's just a bunch
of knuckleheads sitting back there. But they look at the
rules all the time. And you know, the last couple
of years, we've had a couple of important rule changes.
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The clock change, yep, in terms of continuation until the
last two minutes of each half, there have been changes there.
I mean, there's there's a lot of different things that
are going on that coaches adapt to. I mean, Ohio
State went from a no huddle situation trying to get
seventy eighty plays again.
Speaker 1 (22:37):
When Justin Fields was here and CJ. Stroud was here,
it was yeah, they were talking about here.
Speaker 4 (22:43):
And what is Ryan Day talking about now? Slowing the
game down? Ryan Day, slow the game down. It's because
of the rules in the game. And now they're trying
to get sixty snaps on offense. Well, sixty used to
be like an awful number to Ohio State. They wanted
to get seventy seventy five. Yeah, but they're pleased now
with about sixty snaps a game.
Speaker 3 (23:05):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (23:05):
Yeah. I mean that Texas win was an old school,
nineteen eighty style football game. It just was everybody was
fuddling it on every play. Texas went no huddle. But
from Ohio State standpoint, well you've noticed how well that
is shortened. Shortened the games right, except for replace, except
for the five minute commercial breaks for Fox. Yeah, that's right.
(23:30):
Thanks much to all of you. I got it quite
a few good emails this week. Going to do one here,
but you can always email me during the week. Matt
McCoy at iHeartRadio dot com and get to those on
bucks line on Thursday night, Bill Conley, Jeff Logan with me.
We've got Roy Hall coming up in a few minutes.
As we talked Buckeyes and Bobcats with you. The game
(23:51):
coming up at seven o'clock on Saturday. Our Best Buckeye
Coverage pregame show will start at four from that email inbox,
and this one is directed to coach Bill Conley. Okay,
a question for Coach Conley. Our coach is ever secretly
happy when a player makes a mistake. When Julian saying
when Julian's saying through the interception last week, I told
(24:14):
my son it was probably good for him. It didn't
cost the Buckeyes anything in a lopsided game, but maybe
he learns from it and doesn't repeat the mistake in
a closer game down the road. I was just wondering
if Ryan Day got more out of saying throwing that
pick than he would have if he had finished the
game without an incompletion and another touchdown. Thanks, loved the show,
and that's from Jeff Well.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
I think part of what he said is true. It
was a great teaching moment, But to say you want
to see him throw the inner setting, so that would
happen not so much. But I got to say this,
if it had to happen in a game, that would
be the game. Yeah, because you're gonna beat him anyway.
Speaker 4 (24:50):
You'd rather that mistake happen in a practice where you
can correct it on the scene, as opposed to a
game where it's irreversible.
Speaker 3 (24:58):
And yes, it was a learning experience.
Speaker 2 (25:00):
You can beat a team two hundred to nothing. Believe me.
Coaches are going to find things to coach them up
about mistakes, typical mistakes, fundamentals, you know, bed footwork or
something like that. There's plenty of things coaches can find.
Speaker 4 (25:14):
I love Ryan Day's press conference this week, guys, I
hope you were able to listen in on some of
that stuff. They were talking about this the defensive coordinator
Matt Patricia. Yeah, and they asked the question, how did
you and Matt decide that he was going to go
sit up in the press box And he says just basically,
it was his decision.
Speaker 3 (25:34):
I just tell him get off the field on third down.
Speaker 1 (25:37):
That's all the matters.
Speaker 4 (25:39):
I don't care where you're watching the game from. Yah,
get that defense off the field on third down. That
is all that matters in the circumstance.
Speaker 2 (25:46):
And I tell you what that right there, what you said,
Jeff is the key this week. I agree, we've got
to get them off the field well.
Speaker 3 (25:53):
And two things.
Speaker 4 (25:54):
There's the third down situation in this game is going
to be crucial because Ohio University in their first two
games against Rutgers and West Virginia they only allowed thirteen
percent of third down conversions Defensively, they got off the
(26:16):
field all right, and that's how they had that ball
control like they've had. And so Ohio State, which is
decent on third down conversions again again against Texas and Grambling,
how do you judge that? I think clearly Ohio University
has better statistics to rely on than anything.
Speaker 1 (26:34):
You can look at.
Speaker 4 (26:35):
Ohio State right now and know where is our strengths
and weaknesses.
Speaker 3 (26:39):
Right, I agree, But when you are and that.
Speaker 4 (26:42):
Puts them number four in the country after just a
couple of weeks on third down conversion defense, they do
a terrific job in that regard and.
Speaker 2 (26:51):
They've only given up six points total in the second
half this season.
Speaker 1 (26:58):
Yeah, that game was a huge win for them last week.
And as you said, Bill, I mean they if you
looked at it, they controlled the game forty minutes and
it's not like they played eight minutes of possession. They
played ball state both taps. Yeah, they're legitimate games. Yeah,
you're right, you can learn a lot. Yeah, for sure.
Regarding Julian Saying's Day, Bill, he was, he was terrific.
(27:20):
I mean, you know, again understanding the the opponent. But
there were still some throws like the touchdown pass to
the tight end down the seam was like that was
a perfect throw, Like the coverage wasn't terrible. You can
see what they see in him put it that way.
(27:40):
Despite that interception.
Speaker 2 (27:42):
You know, the coaching staff, it says how good Ryan
Day isn't the staff we talked last spring about, Man,
how are they going to beat the quarterback spot, you
know now going out and get a transfer guy. Yeah,
two guys that really haven't played in the heat of
battle and all this stuff. And they coaching Steff's got
to be happy with both their guys right now, the
(28:03):
way they've performed so far.
Speaker 1 (28:04):
The thing too, with if you look at Ryan Day
and the quarterbacks and Jeff, they get better, as like
Will Howard how he was in week one last year
to how he was in the playoff run night and
day c J. Stroud his first year as a starter. Remember,
(28:25):
like people wanted to throw him by the way he
was at the end of the year, like not even
in the same ballpark. So if you extrapolate that, and
that's what we see from Julian saying, and I anticipate
that with the way a coach Day has been able
to develop quarterbacks, he could be a heck of a player.
I mean, he already is, I think, but he could
(28:46):
be a heck of a player by the end of
the year.
Speaker 4 (28:48):
Well, I think, knowing the game as we do and
knowing the history of the position, you're going to struggle
at some point in time. There are going to be
issues in any quarterbacks development that he's going to have
to learn from.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
You just hope it's not.
Speaker 4 (29:02):
Too much of an expense, whatever that development might be.
But you know, to be start off the year thirty
one out of thirty nine completing almost eighty percent of
his passes and only one pick and what five touchdown passes?
Speaker 3 (29:15):
You know, the strength of this.
Speaker 4 (29:16):
Kid is he seems to have a good head, He
seems to make good decisions and We kept hearing about
this quick release, and it's very evident when you watch
him throw.
Speaker 3 (29:27):
He is unique in terms of getting the ball out quickly.
Speaker 1 (29:31):
And I'll say this, kudos the offensive line because they
protected the heck out of here so far, even against
that Texas defense.
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