Bucksline Hour 1 9-25-2025

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
And walk on to box line.

Speaker 2 (00:01):
Matt McCoy, along with our best Buckeye coverage analyst Bill
Conley and Jeff Logan is back with us.

Speaker 1 (00:07):
Roy Hall will be joining us at seven.

Speaker 2 (00:09):
O'clock doing his high school football coaching back Eyes on
the road at washing first time that they have met
as a Big ten opponents, and that one's coming up
at three point thirty on Channel ten. Jeff Logan was
not here last week, and Jeff we discovered Bill and
I we had Campy come in and fill in Mike Campagna,

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who obviously does a lot of stuff for us from
the best Buck Eye coverage and you hear him in
the morning with Mike Elliott. But we discovered that he
has a license to do weddings and as married people,
you were not here last week because you were an
officiant at a family wedding. And then Roy came in

(00:51):
and was telling us all these weddings of people that
he's done for former Buck Eye. So Bill and I
are like in the minority, figured we need to go
get our wedding license.

Speaker 3 (01:00):
You have to get that license in a box of
crackerjacks or something.

Speaker 4 (01:03):
I mean, everybody's got him. It doesn't take much to
get the license.

Speaker 5 (01:09):
It does take a little bit of time to prepare
and do a good job for these things, for sure.

Speaker 4 (01:13):
Good for Campy and also for the Reverend Roy. I mean, oh, he.

Speaker 2 (01:18):
Was telling us justin Hilliard's wedding how he got swept
up in it, and you know, Joe Burrow is in
the wedding party, and like everybody's trying to act like
Joe's just a normal dude, but everybody knows he's not
a normal dude.

Speaker 1 (01:29):
It was crazy.

Speaker 4 (01:31):
So I'm referred to in my family now as the
preacher man.

Speaker 1 (01:40):
Well, preacher man.

Speaker 2 (01:41):
One of the one of the comments that we have
gotten since we last talked with you is from people
that are preaching the praises of bo Jackson with the
way that he performed.

Speaker 1 (01:52):
We had a bye week. Now Ohio State is heading
on the road.

Speaker 2 (01:57):
Uh, do you think we'll see him like they were
afraid and we talked about it last week. Totally understand
why you didn't play against Texas. It's not the time
to debut a freshman kid. He's got his feet wet.
Now this is a first road game, tough environment. Do
you think we will see him have a role in
this game as opposed to not having a role in

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the Texas game.

Speaker 5 (02:18):
You know, I warned you about this, this was going
to happen this, you know, and.

Speaker 1 (02:23):
You did before the Texas game. He said, this kid's
going to make.

Speaker 5 (02:26):
Any You watch a kid in practice, you learn a
little bit about him, and it's.

Speaker 4 (02:31):
Like watching a good golf shot.

Speaker 5 (02:32):
You can tell as soon as it leaves with the
club faces whether it's going to be any good or not.
And the first time I saw this kid, it was
like one of those impressions that you get that this
kid's going to be pretty good. Now having said that,
he is yet to have a freshman moment, yes, all right,
and we all have a freshman moment. Even the guy
that won two Heisman Trophies had a freshman moment. The

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guy by the name of Eddie George had an early
moment for him in his career. Wasn't a freshman moment,
but it was a sophomore moment, if I'm not mistake
the Illinois game. Yeah, and when you get that opportunity,
you know, how's he going to deal with adversity, and
the adversity in this thing being the pressure of being
maybe the go to guy on the road with the noise,

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the communication is going to be a lot different than
anything that he has ever seen. And I think that's
the biggest challenge for Ohio State is the young people
going on the road in a tough environment for the
very first.

Speaker 3 (03:24):
Go exactly right. And the preacher man is also a seer.
He knew that those Jackson's going to be that good,
and yeah it is.

Speaker 4 (03:32):
I agree with you, Jeff.

Speaker 3 (03:33):
This game on the road, Julian san and allows environment
he'll ever be in or has been so so far.
That is only a stadium CE seventy one thousand, but
it is loud, it sits on Lake Washington, and it
is always voted as in the top five tough stadiums
to play in. And so we can't let that hostile

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environment affect those young guys.

Speaker 5 (03:57):
I Hash States on a seven game winning streak, which
is second longest in the nation, but the University of
Washington Huskies have a twenty two game home winning streak
dating back to when they lost to a University of
Washington or Washington State excuse me, back in twenty twenty one. Yep,
So you know they certainly have momentum going in their direction.

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And they've got this thing called the transfer portal that
has been fairly kind to them because this place was
devastated two years ago, about eighteen months ago, when Dubor
took off for the job at Alabama. Everything went off
the shelves. I mean it was gone. I mean guys
were transferring. They are gone for good. And there was

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a concern that the Washington program, brand new to the
Big Ten, was going to be you know, not very
good for some time. And with the transfer portal, you know,
it can damage you unbelievable in situations like this. But
you talk about quick fixes, you can't do this while

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we're recruiting high school football players, yeah, and have them
ready to play in a year. But the coach there,
the coaching staff there from Arizona brought their best with them,
including their coaching staff, and they've been able to resurrect things.

Speaker 4 (05:19):
Bill.

Speaker 3 (05:20):
Yeah, I mean Washington used to be one of those
places where people stayed a long time. But you know,
they had then they have two coaches, you don James
there forever. We'll talk about him a little later, but
they had two coaches leave for other jobs, you know,
Sark Yeah, there, he left and left for Alabama.

Speaker 2 (05:39):
And the early two thousand and eight. I think Rick
Newhis left for UCLA like he was. He had a
decent job. We'll get to him by the way later too.
I don't know if you guys say he's works for CBS,
but I got Ty Willingham.

Speaker 4 (05:52):
I got an email. It didn't last very long now.

Speaker 2 (05:56):
But it's it is a historically good program. And one
thing about now, I've not been there, but you talk
about tough environments. It is, Bill, as you said, known
as one of the loudest environments. It also, if you
like Google, most picture X stadiums are best scenes in
college football.

Speaker 1 (06:16):
Watch it.

Speaker 2 (06:16):
Husky Stadium will come up like it's on the what
Puget's sound There. They have what they call sailgating instead
of tailgating, because people like sailboat or bring their boats
in doc them and then go to the game. So
it'll be a cool environment for Ohio State. It's always interesting,

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Bill that Ryan Day chose to leave a day early
to get out there. They practiced earlier. Today they may
be there already, but they're certainly definitely on their way
right now to get acclimated and everything and then spend
the whole day Friday in Seattle.

Speaker 3 (06:53):
Yeah, I think it's smart move again with having a
bunch of new players for some net type of environment.
But they had to film at thing you're talking about, Matt,
like the one day they had sunshine out there whenever
it is because they get a lot of rain out there.
It's not the it was not the most picturesque place
year round.

Speaker 5 (07:11):
It's not San Diego weather. I didn't promise you that.
Having been there as well. I haven't played there, but
did some broadcasting from Ohio State games out there, and
it is a terrific environment. And you know, I think
back to Don James who really resurrected that program when
he left from Kent State and took that job out

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there and was there from nineteen seventy five to two
thousand and two.

Speaker 4 (07:36):
That is just amazing.

Speaker 5 (07:38):
And Don James was at Kent State when I was
being recruited out of high school, and he had Kent
State moving in the right direction, you know, Kent and
Kent wasn't a destination that I was at all interested in.

Speaker 4 (07:50):
And I think I shared this with you before.

Speaker 5 (07:51):
One of his assistant coaches was a guy by the
name of Nick Saban and Nick Saban recruited me under
the Don James staff and then all of a sudden
they disappear and they go to Washington and the rest
is history.

Speaker 3 (08:04):
Yeah, one of my former teammates and coached here. Also
with him, Randy Hart, defensive line coach. He was out
there for a long time.

Speaker 2 (08:13):
Well, do you remember Scotty Graham, the former Buckeye fullback
And for those of you that are younger viewers, a
full back used to be a player that lined up
in the backfield in front of the tailback and occasionally
would actually get the handoff and like carry the football

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a little bit. And Scotty was one of the best
ones late eighties, early nineties. He is Washington's running backs coach.
So there is still like an Ohio state connection. It's
weird that program there, it's so far away, but like
through the years, there's always been ties back to Ohio
with the Washington football program.

Speaker 3 (08:55):
Now you obviously taking part of my no the enemy already.

Speaker 1 (08:59):
I'm sorry, Bill, stealing your thunder.

Speaker 2 (09:02):
The athletic director patch exactly.

Speaker 1 (09:06):
There were a lot of people when.

Speaker 2 (09:09):
Jean Smith announced his retirement, and I'll raise my hand
as being one of them. If you had asked me
right then, who's going to be Ohio State's next athletic director,
I would have said Pat Schehn. Pat used to work
was he ran football, ran football very well, familiar with it,
and had gone on and been successful as an athletic director.

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And I thought that he was going to be the guy.
They ended up going with rossby York. But he's the
He's the a d out there at Washington. So it
should be a fun game on Saturday. How dangerous do
you think this one is for Ohio State?

Speaker 5 (09:45):
Jeff very Now, from a talent gap standpoint, this is
in Texas. Let's not confuse ourselves by any stretched the
imagination in a game that you should go in there.
I'm I'm a little taken back by the spread only
being eight points. It opened at thirteen and has dropped

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all the way to eight, which meant there was a
whole lot of money going on Washington side driving that
spread down to where it is at eight. And I
think that's awfully generous if you will to the Washington faithful,
because I just believe the talent gap is that much greater.
But they do have game breakers, and we'll talk as

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we go on tonight, about their quarterback, and that's really
the key to their success. Not a very good defensive
football team by any stretch, and they've had some injuries
on that side of the ball, but from a standpoint
of a quarterback, that can change things. Guys, Just two
quick stats that'll just catch your gut and make you
understand why this is a dangerous game, Matt. Is that

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they lead the country in third down conversions. All right,
they are number one in third down conversions, and they
are also number one in red zone They are one
hundred percent successful in red zone offense.

Speaker 3 (11:01):
Wow, and that's the number one team in the country
red zone defense.

Speaker 4 (11:06):
Ohio State just so happens to be the Buckeyes, that's right.

Speaker 2 (11:08):
Yeah, they haven't punted since week one, So now I
get that. It was the UC Davis in week they
opened with Colorado State, it was UC Davis in week two.

Speaker 1 (11:20):
I get it.

Speaker 2 (11:21):
They're not very good and Washington State not very good.
So but nonetheless, that's that's a long time to go
without punting. So yeah, if Ohio State forces a three
and out on the first drive, that's like headline news.
Expect Washington to make some plays in this game. I mean,

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Ohios This is not going to be Ohio State in Texas,
where you know it's going to be fourteen to seven
or whatever. I my belief is, and I could be
dead wrong, but my belief is Bill Ohio State is
going to have to score into the twenties or maybe thirties,
like I think watching it, is going to score.

Speaker 1 (12:00):
And it doesn't mean Ohio State is having a bad
defensive game. I just think they're that good and at.

Speaker 2 (12:04):
Home on offense, Ohio State's going to have to score
and take advantage as Jeff said, a little bit of
a banged up and not as good of a defense.

Speaker 3 (12:12):
Yeah, and they're averaging fifty five points a game. I
mean they're scoring every quarter and even all the way
up into the fourth quarter. I think that's the one
they have actually the most points in. So you know,
it's one of those things they're really this game rest
in the hands of our defense, no doubt it really does.
They have got to get off the field and get

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our offense on the field because they have the potential
of driving the ball down the field. Because the quarterback
is so athletic and he's a dual threat guy. He
can keep drives going with his feet, and they also
have big playing potential. Ten different players, ten different players
have had big plays of twenty five yards.

Speaker 2 (12:52):
Or more this year from them right, and they got
a sledgehammer at running back this is Jonah Coleman. And
they got a first round great wide receiver in Denzel Boston.
So it is good for without question, going to be
Ohio State's big challenge as they start on the road. Here, boy,

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it's a good Saturday college football coming up. The Buckeyes
and Washington again. You know, on paper, this is a
sneaky game. We've talked about the betting line changing and
a lot of people liking washington twenty two game winning streak. Yes,
the Buckeyes are favored and should win, but I'm telling you,
if Ohio State wins, that is a good win.

Speaker 1 (13:39):
I don't care what that.

Speaker 2 (13:40):
Is going to be, like a really really good win
no matter what Washington ends up being. Because it's a
it's a dangerous game, and we will have our best
buck Eye coverage pregame show starting at one o'clock on Saturday,
taking you up to the three thirty kickoff on Channel ten.
I'm at McCoy Conley and Jeff Logan are here. But

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also on Saturday Saturday night, we have the TV on
in here and they were just teasing Penn State Oregon.
That's a primetime game. Also at the same time, Georgia
is hosting Alabama. So there's a lot of major shakeups
that are coming. And for James Franklin, Bill this is
a huge game for him at Penn State because if

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he loses a home game. I mean, even though Oregon
is a national contender and Penn State could still have
a great year, but that narrative of not being able
to win the big one is going to continue to
rise for James Franklin.

Speaker 3 (14:37):
Yeah, and this is the one he's going to have
to win. Some people have picked picked their team to
win national title, but I'll tell you, you start the league
off with an OH to one, it would be tough.

Speaker 2 (14:50):
To do that, and they especially if the one's a
home game exactly in a white Yeah, I just I
think he's out of chips.

Speaker 4 (14:58):
To be perfectly honest with you.

Speaker 5 (15:00):
I've been kind of talking about their failure based on
his poor game management for a lot of years, and
there are no more excuses with everything he has coming back.

Speaker 1 (15:13):
And they yeah, so many guys. It reminded me.

Speaker 2 (15:16):
We talked about this before of Ohio State last year
where a lot of guys came back. We got it,
We're going to run it again. That could have gone
to the NFL. Same is true with Penn State.

Speaker 3 (15:26):
Now.

Speaker 1 (15:26):
Ohio State still lost.

Speaker 2 (15:27):
To Michigan, but they did pay it off with the
national title, and Penn State kind of has that same
kind of pressure because a lot of guys came back.

Speaker 4 (15:34):
They really do, There's no question about it.

Speaker 5 (15:36):
By the way, guys, you realize this is kind of
we've come full circle with Ohio State in Washington. The
last time we played them was back in twenty nineteen
in the Rose Bowl game.

Speaker 4 (15:44):
Yep. You know that was the last game that Urban
Meyer coached. Yep.

Speaker 5 (15:49):
And the guy that they had named a month earlier
to be the succeeding head football coach was.

Speaker 4 (15:54):
The Ryan Day.

Speaker 1 (15:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (15:56):
And can I read an email, Jeff, I'll just go
off of that, Souff. Yeah, I was just going to
say that the neat part about that was is in
the locker room after the game, that's when Urban took
his whistle, Yep, coach his whistle off his neck and
put it on Ryan's and that was the handing over
of the keys. Right.

Speaker 2 (16:14):
I got this from Doug to exactly what you're talking about.
Playing Washington reminded me that the last time we met them,
Urban Meyer after the game gave the whistle symbolically to
turn the program over.

Speaker 1 (16:25):
To Ryan Day.

Speaker 2 (16:26):
How would you evaluate the transition. Has Day exceeded expectations,
maintained expectations, or because of the um struggles, failed to
meet expectations. I love your show and the discussions all
the best, Doug.

Speaker 4 (16:41):
How do you answer that coach.

Speaker 3 (16:43):
Ryan Day has done a great job? How could you
possibly not think he has? He is. It's a marvelous job.

Speaker 4 (16:51):
In the world, in the country, in the world in
which we live in.

Speaker 5 (16:54):
With this playoff system being the way that it is,
nobody's had more wins during that era. From twenty fourteen
when the playoffs started, Ohio State leads the entire world
in wins. Now the purists are going to say, yeah,
but you've lost three in a row.

Speaker 4 (17:11):
To the team up north. That sucks. I mean, there's
no two ways around it.

Speaker 5 (17:16):
There is no getting around You cannot ignore that as
part of his legacy.

Speaker 4 (17:22):
But folks. It could be worse. You could have Alabama
going through what they're going through with their program. Oklahoma State,
Oklahoma State.

Speaker 2 (17:32):
Be grateful for what you have and what he did
in the playoff run. I mean, if we would have
if Doug's question would have come after the Michigan game,
the answer would have been totally different than it is now.
After what they did in the playoffs to win the
national time.

Speaker 5 (17:48):
I might have wanted to take that rope and you know,
that string and tating it around it.

Speaker 4 (17:52):
That's exactly right. But yeah, he is he delivered.

Speaker 2 (17:55):
Yeah, our friend Jim is on the line on Bucks line. Jim,
what's how you feeling tonight?

Speaker 6 (18:01):
Oh? I'm doing good. I hope you guys are too.

Speaker 1 (18:04):
You optimistic? Are you optimistic about Saturday?

Speaker 3 (18:09):
A little bit?

Speaker 6 (18:09):
A little bit, especially as I see the line dropping
from thirteen to what seven and a half or whatever?
It's a little scary, But as Jeff said, looks like
there's money going on forwards Washington. A lot of people
think they can cover and so forth. So we'll see
what happened. But I have a strategy question for you guys.
We've talked about and you've talked earlier about their strength

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is their offense. Their weakness is their defense. Okay, here's
where the strategy comes into play. You win the toss,
do you take the ball or do you defer to
the second half. I know there's a lot of pros
and cons both ways, and I've kicked it around both
ways thinking about it, and I want to see what
you guys thought.

Speaker 2 (18:52):
I know that if Roy were here, he would say
take the ball. What we can ask him at seven o'clock.
I think I would. I think I would defer strength
of your defense. I would defer, I would field position.
Give me a three and out coach.

Speaker 3 (19:08):
Yeah, I'm leading that way too. But there's one thing
that could change yet.

Speaker 4 (19:13):
Weather. Weather.

Speaker 2 (19:16):
Now it's supposed to be nice. I looked at the forecast,
partly cloudy in like seventy.

Speaker 4 (19:21):
There's no nice work. There's no nice in Seattle. Are
you kidding me?

Speaker 1 (19:25):
As nice as it can be?

Speaker 4 (19:27):
I was gonna say so.

Speaker 1 (19:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (19:30):
But it is a good question, though, Jim, because if
you defer, which I think I would too, you're putting
their best unit on the field first. But you also
are putting your best unit on the field first, and.

Speaker 1 (19:45):
That is that's going to be the game.

Speaker 2 (19:47):
I mean, Bill, you said it that you think the
game is going to be which of those two is
more successful against each other. So it's it is interesting,
and I think the answer that question, Jim, is different
for every game that you play. I mean, there's certain
games where you're going to want to defer. There are
certain game to you, they won the toss against Grampling,

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and hey, let's get the lead and let's get going,
and they took the ball. But there are certain games
where you probably are going to want to defer. It'll
be interesting. But thanks for the call, Jim, appreciate it.
The game coming up is a three thirty game on
Channel ten on Saturday, and it is the Big Ten opener.

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And how much does that add any pressure to this game?
The fact that is the first Big ten game are all?
I mean I say that because Bill, you were in
the context of Penn State. You don't want to start
zero to one, and that's a cliche, but it's glaringly obvious,
especially when you're considered a national title contender. Does that

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add anything to this or is it just go get
a win? Whether this is the first game of the
Big ten season or the fifth.

Speaker 3 (21:00):
Get asked too, because let's face it, what is that
every team's goal right now is to make the playoffs.
You know, we want to be Michigan, obviously, we want
to win the Big Ten. Main thing. You want to
make the playoffs. And you know you can only stub
your toe a couple times at the most to have
a chance of making that.

Speaker 1 (21:16):
Your margin for error slipsy you don't win this game.

Speaker 4 (21:20):
Yeah, there's one thing.

Speaker 5 (21:20):
If you lose to what to Texas in week one
and then run the table. You know in the Big
Ten conferences, you're a slam dunk to make it in there.
You stub your toe against an unranked opponent, that's going
to be a bruise that you're not going to be
able to get off your body throughout the entire season.
So you've got to be really careful in terms of
what you do there. And you know, I think the

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coaches have talked to them a lot about the next month.
We've talked about this season being divided into three separate segments,
three pieces of pie, if you will, And we've devoured
the first section of that pie, and now we're in
the second section, and three of these next four games
gentlemen are on the road, and of those games on

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the road, they're not going to any easy environments.

Speaker 4 (22:07):
You go from.

Speaker 5 (22:08):
Washington, then you're gonna be at Illinois eventually after a
home game with Minnesota, and then you go to Wisconsin.

Speaker 4 (22:15):
Now you AI, what about it? But Luke fickle and
how bad they are. Let me tell you what. Madison
is no fun place to be. I don't care who
you're playing.

Speaker 3 (22:23):
I always thought that was the toughest Big Ten stadium
to play in no doubt. I mean Michigan. I don't
think here where you're playing, you throw those things out
the window. But in terms of want of Wisconsin, that
is loud. The crowd gets into it and they do
a great job of trying to intimidate the opponent.

Speaker 2 (22:45):
Quick note from John here, I wanted your opinion on
the Big Ten. I watched Indiana destroy Illinois. Are the
Hoosiers legit national contenders in your mind? Or do they
just expose an overrated Illinois team? And he said, also
Oregon Penn State, who you guys got?

Speaker 1 (23:01):
And that's from John. What do you think about.

Speaker 4 (23:03):
It's sixty three?

Speaker 2 (23:05):
Dad?

Speaker 4 (23:05):
You guys?

Speaker 5 (23:06):
I assume you guys talked a little bit about that
game last week and on Thursday night Indiana Illinois game.

Speaker 2 (23:12):
I liked Indiana, but I didn't not like that. I
didn't think it was I thought it was going to
be a hell of a game. I did not see
that shocked.

Speaker 3 (23:18):
I drank the water. I thought Illinois was gonna be
a lot better than what they were, and I thought
that was disappointed. And that's showing.

Speaker 4 (23:24):
Yeah, we hadn't seen their quarterback live, you know, the
Altmeyer kid, and I thought he was going to be
the difference maker and he was non existent in the game,
and it got.

Speaker 1 (23:33):
Mendoza's He's a real deal, no doubt.

Speaker 2 (23:36):
Yeah, I don't know how you could come out of
the game saying Indiana is not a national contender.

Speaker 1 (23:41):
Right now, we.

Speaker 4 (23:41):
Will no more. After Saturday they play at Iowa.

Speaker 5 (23:45):
USC has Illinois, all right, usc is traveling to Illinois
will know him a little bit more because the USC's
I think, a pretty good football.

Speaker 4 (23:52):
Team, better than average. But Indiana's got to go on
the road to Iowa and that's not an easy place
to play either, mm hmm. And I think we'll know
a little bit more.

Speaker 5 (24:01):
About both of those teams after what happens this Saturday
in their games.

Speaker 3 (24:06):
Yeah, and as far as the Penn State Oregon game,
and we're talking a little bit about it here among us,
but you know, it's precious, gonna be big, Frank, it
is so I I you know, and I like Oregon.
I think Oregon can get it done.

Speaker 2 (24:20):
Yeah, I'm gonna go with Penn State just because it's
there and the Oregon's traveling far. But it would not
surprise me if Oregon wins that.

Speaker 5 (24:27):
Penn State's a three and a half point favorite in
that game, which is shocking.

Speaker 2 (24:31):
Yeah, to me, you would favor Oregon absolutely. I think
on a neutral field I would. But at that white out, No, No,
you like Oregon that much. You've got a bad coach
and an average quarterback. Wow, that's my opinion. Yeah, that's
that's what I think. Yeah, more from bucks Line coming

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up next hour. Don't forget Bill Conley's know thine enemy.
I already stole a couple of facts from him. I'm
sorry about that, but until he'll refill us in back
on box Line, Matt McCoy, Bill Conley, Jeff Logan with you.
Roy Hall is going to be joining us in a
few minutes. After the top of the hour news. Another question, guys,

(25:14):
I watched Washington Washington State last week in Demond Williams,
that's the.

Speaker 1 (25:18):
Quarterback is no joke.

Speaker 2 (25:20):
But the player that concerns me most is their receiver Boston.
But he's Denzel Boston. Do you think Matt Patricia will
take his chances having his corners play a man to
man and get aggressive and go after Williams And that's
from Dale. What about the chess match on defense against
this Washington offense. And it's not only Denzel Boston. I
mean the running back Coleman is terrific and obviously Williams

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can beat you with his arms or legs.

Speaker 3 (25:46):
The guy that I think the biggest concern is the
running back because that guy not only is leading touchdown
man in the country's got.

Speaker 1 (25:53):
Ten times already or is it nine one receiving?

Speaker 3 (25:57):
I think, okay, there's nine rushing, right, but this guy
can catch ball all the backfield. He's you know, he
raised two twenty. But he runs strong. I mean he's
a stronger and runs over people, very athletic. And you
know the Boston kid is a Boston. He's a good receiver,
yet a seven your punt return. So they've got those
skilled athletes you know, are pretty good.

Speaker 5 (26:18):
Yeah, And I think the one thing to really understand,
and they do have some good players, is they have
literally played nobody they have and so it's it's it's
really tough to judge how good this football team is
as it relates to Matt Patricia and blitzing and and
that sort of thing with the quarterback. I think you've
got to be careful with a guy like this that

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has the ability to extend plays that if you blitz
and miss, then you have created a void. He's on
a second level. He goes out the back door. So
I think it's a lot of strategy to disguise coverages,
disguise those blitzes, you know, come at him when you
when you have the full assurance that you're going to

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be able to get home on him. But mostly it's
contain him in the in the pocket as.

Speaker 4 (27:05):
Best you can.

Speaker 3 (27:06):
Yeah, And we talked about this last week a little bit,
you know, talk about self scout so important. I mean,
Matt Patricia. They have to look at what they've been
doing and not do things exactly the same way and
see if they have any their own players you know,
if our defenders, certain guys tip the thing off by
the way they stand or a line or something like that.

(27:27):
So I think you really got to do good job
of self scout to come up with enough things to
confuse them on key downs.

Speaker 1 (27:34):
Yeah, third downs, especially for sure,