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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome back our number two of bucks line Matt McCoy
with Jeff Logan, Bill Conley, and Roy Hall joining us.
We talked Buckeyes with you, Bill coming up about a
half hour away from No Dine Enemy with fun facts
about the Penn State and Nitney Lyons Roy joining us.
Thank you, by the way for the treats turnacy of
what Ghana parents' moms.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Yeahhannah Lincoln football mom.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
Yeah, and you got Groveport tomorrow in the playoffs.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Yeah, we didn't have.
Speaker 4 (00:27):
To go to the house to get these streets either,
I know.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
Yeah, no, very nice and or dress up.
Speaker 5 (00:32):
I know.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
That's great.
Speaker 6 (00:33):
It's kind of cold and rainy a trick or treat man,
it's crazy. That's feel bad for the kids, man.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
Yeah, my wife just texted said it was slow at
the start, but now there's a run of kids right now.
Speaker 7 (00:42):
So rain must have slowed down a little bit.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
A little bit.
Speaker 7 (00:44):
Yeah, So how are the height chews? That's what I
really want to know.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
Here's the deal.
Speaker 6 (00:47):
This is awesome that you guys have put them in
this nice, little fancy bowl which probably costs about ten
cents to make, and so I'm thankful for this dish
on things Thanksgiving on Halloween. Halloween, I didn't have to
say trick or treat or anything. It's just three white
guys giving me candies. So I appreciate you. Gotta be suspicious,
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you know what I mean. I'm the one that came
in looked like I had on makeup, So I mean,
you know, I got a little bit.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
Okay from Twitter.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
I got a fourth white guy Berry in California.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
Of course, his name is Barry and Kelly.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
When Roy takes out his bag at the end of
the night and dumps candy on the floor, what three
candies are he are his favorites?
Speaker 3 (01:27):
And what three does he hate to see? So go bucks.
Speaker 6 (01:31):
So you're assuming, my man, Barry, you're assuming that I
went trick or treating. I go out and I smacked
a bunch of little kids in the chest, and I
take their candy from them. And when I get their
candy bags High Choose. Of course, if it has high
Chows in there, that's a good situation. However, you know,
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it's kind of difficult to kind of you have a
hand like you've got hag chows. Like if you give
me a bag of High Choose, I would be happy.
I like trigger treating you like Snickers? I like anything
like a king size something. There you go, hey, all
those little bitty tiny candies, I'm good one, But give
me a king size Snickers, a large, like a kit Cat.
(02:13):
I like those types of things because I don't eat
them a lot. So that that's where I'm get there.
So KitKat, Snickers, maybe, some peanut and M and m's maybe,
but they can get smashed and the bag gets crinkled up.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
I don't like it, but I choose for sure.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
The question off of the air, Jeff, And that's very
much in the spot on right with what you said.
Speaker 7 (02:32):
I knew I had a little bit of that black
blood in you.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
Something you go.
Speaker 8 (02:34):
There, you go, Hey, So what are the worst three?
That was his other question. What's the bottom of the
barrel that you're gonna throw in the trash?
Speaker 2 (02:41):
Stuff like milk duds? No, I like reese You're there.
Speaker 6 (02:45):
I like Reese's because you can freeze them and they're
pretty good. The chocolates really good when you freeze them.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
Usually it's it's like I said, stuff like milk duds.
Speaker 3 (02:54):
What about Twizzlers?
Speaker 2 (02:56):
Like? I like twizzlers?
Speaker 3 (02:57):
You like them?
Speaker 2 (02:57):
I'm not a really like big toffee guy.
Speaker 7 (03:02):
How about all the joy with the I can do.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
My mom likes almond joys.
Speaker 6 (03:09):
And those are okay because it's dark chocolate, so I
can deal with that, But I won't throw those away.
People that do stupid stuff like leave notes, you know
what I mean, like, hey, have a happy Halloween. Like
I don't want your note, I want more candy, you
know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
Just stuff like that. But that's terrible Nickel, Yeah, not
doing that.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
There was when my kids were of trick or Treat age.
They came back and somebody was handing out like pencils
and erasers.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
I was there, Yeah, like, yeah, that was.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
You know how terrible that is?
Speaker 6 (03:46):
Like what you look in your bag and there's like
a number two pencil like Matt Patricia's pencils in the
Halloween bag?
Speaker 2 (03:55):
What are we doing?
Speaker 5 (03:56):
Maybe it is him?
Speaker 3 (03:59):
Speaking of Matt Patricia.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
You know the whole coordinator situation with Jim Knowles against
Ohio State from Twitter, who has the bigger advantage Ohio
State because they know what Jim Knowles likes to do
on defense or Penn State because Jim Noles knows what
the Buckeys like to do on offense or is there
no advantage? I added the is there no advantage? Do
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you think either team has any kind of an advantage
because of their familiarity with each other?
Speaker 6 (04:27):
Ohio State has the advantage because Penn State is terrible
this year. So Jim Knowles is not even players, right,
Jim Knowles is not even calling the game the way
that he would want to call it and the way
that he's.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
Been calling it a lot of times.
Speaker 6 (04:40):
Scheme and coaches, rightfully, so should get credit for their scheme.
Certain guys fit into certain schemes, as we see even
with Matt Patricia this year, he's running an NFL type
scheme with NFL qualities and layers to it, and he
has the players to your point, Jeff, to be able
to execute that scheme. Now, Jim Knowles had a really
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good scheme, as evident by US winning the national title
with his scheme, and now his scheme is at Penn State.
He doesn't have the players and they don't have the confidence.
And so because even offensively they can't put up points
the way that we did, protect the football the way
that we did, he can't run that same scheme. So
he looks pedestrian. They look pedestrian. And when you don't
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have confidence as a team, you don't have confidence in your.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
Team, your scheme is gonna be terrible.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (05:33):
What do you think that locker room's like after four
straight losses?
Speaker 2 (05:36):
Receiving pencils on Halloween?
Speaker 9 (05:38):
Yeah, I mean.
Speaker 8 (05:40):
I mean, there's still are I mean the Penn State family,
the Penn State dudes have an incredible amount of pride
in who they are, what they're all about, the we
are Penn State. The almost it's almost sickening, but it's
really important to their character and what they're all about.
What I've win us though, is I've watched that whole thing,
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just like the rats are jumping.
Speaker 7 (06:04):
Off the ship.
Speaker 8 (06:05):
Yeah, and I don't know that they've got the capacity
as far down as they have gone, because Roddie still
have the talent.
Speaker 6 (06:12):
Yeah, it's it's a and I was thinking about what
I wanted to compare it to. So I want to
be sensitive to this because I actually went through it.
But let's just say it this way, in a very
polite way. When you have a household that's a two
parent household and it's a split, it becomes very difficult
for the kids one way or another.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
Yep, when you when if dad's not there.
Speaker 6 (06:34):
And I'm not saying that James Franklin is dad, but
he's head coach. If he's gone, and now somebody else's
and then you're looking like where'd you go? Like, I
like the person that you talk to, they think about
the players. You got a mentor in James Franklin, a coach,
a friend, a teacher. You got parents of those kids
that are there that said, hey, you're going to take
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care of my kid for three to four years, help
them make their dreams come true. And now somebody else
said you gotta go. So now you're like you have
to like what am I gonna do now?
Speaker 5 (07:06):
Like?
Speaker 6 (07:06):
Can I still talk to James Franklin? Can I call
him and say, hey, coach? Like what should I do
about this? Like the whole locker room is fractured because
some of them might be like good writtence, the other
of them are like, man, where's my guy?
Speaker 2 (07:18):
That's messed up? This?
Speaker 6 (07:20):
This is a business, and so you're just no air.
It takes a long time to recover. It takes time
to adjust to who's ever the leader and why should
I respect whoever's the interim head coach because.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
They're not going to be here.
Speaker 6 (07:34):
And then I got my brothers in the locker room,
like I'm leaving, I got this person talk. So now
everybody's on different pages and so you can never recover
from that situation.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
Man Like those that stay.
Speaker 6 (07:46):
Obviously are good, but it just takes a while to rebuild.
Speaker 7 (07:50):
Let me keep going on. This is it all right?
Speaker 8 (07:52):
So how different is it in that locker room today
versus what it was like with Ryan Day after the
loss against the team up North last year, because that
was broken and fractured and it hadn't happened.
Speaker 3 (08:06):
In a different way.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
Well, yeah, but the impact was similar, yes, no doubt
is the fact.
Speaker 7 (08:12):
That you still had dad there to pull things back.
Speaker 6 (08:15):
Yeah, and and and so that was a conversation. But
the difference is nobody above them made a decision for them.
Somebody else came and said, he's out your fire. So
we don't even get a chance to talk about these things.
And I think that's the biggest difference, because Ryan Day
was the one who allowed his senior captains to call
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an all players meeting. So when you still have to
your point, the headman in charge is still there and
we just lost the game.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
But you guys want to figure out what's what I'm
going to allow us to do that. It's a family talk.
Speaker 6 (08:50):
We got a family still, we still have our family together.
So we're gonna have a hard conversation as a family,
and we're gonna come out of this thing stronger as
opposed to a coach gone.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
We don't need to talk about anything at this point
in time. Jim Knowles is probably like, you gotta be
kidding me.
Speaker 3 (09:06):
Yeah, I wonder what he's thinking now, Bill.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
Let me just go ahead and cash his check.
Speaker 5 (09:09):
Well, you know the question you initially asked, was it
kind of interesting? What do you gain from a guy
like Jim Knowles that left this program to another? And
sometimes I think an issue is when you're a team
is so worried about trying to figure things out about
the other team from another guy that was there, that's
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too much concentration on one thing and they.
Speaker 4 (09:33):
Should play a little slow.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
YEP, I really do that.
Speaker 5 (09:36):
I think that maybe maybe like this, we'll say Jim
Knowles as well, you know that receiver there, you know
when he runs this route, he runs a little sharper
than he runs another one.
Speaker 4 (09:46):
Or something like that.
Speaker 5 (09:47):
It might be little things about player personnel more than
scheme of things, because we can change the scheme.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
So are you like paralysis by analysis if you think
too much?
Speaker 4 (09:56):
Yep, exactly.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
I think.
Speaker 8 (09:57):
I think Jim Moles may file a lawsuit though, against
Ohio State because they didn't allow him access to rvil Reece.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
That could be like where was where's Caleb Downs, Where's
where's Rvel?
Speaker 7 (10:16):
Last year? Yeah?
Speaker 8 (10:17):
He's behind Sunny Styles and uh and Simon Cony. Simon
Simon who was playing at a very high level, but
he got to be like the same thing.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
Like who's eight? Is that.
Speaker 7 (10:31):
It's rvel Rece?
Speaker 4 (10:32):
Yeah, well here's something that you mention it.
Speaker 5 (10:35):
You think if there was that real close bond, you know,
he was thinking, well, if I go Penn State, maybe
a couple of these guys will come with me.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
It didn't happen. In the first year.
Speaker 1 (10:46):
We continue to talk about eyes with you, Bill's nov
an enemy, about Penn State about ten minutes away. Box
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minutes away from No Dine enemy Roy Hall and also
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Got this from Glenn Earl used to say that November
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is for contenders. What's your biggest concern about the buck
Eyes heading into November? And then he says, note mine
is on special teams as we face better competition, I
fear could cost us a game. Again, that's from Glenn.
Do you have as you look at this team, Bill
Conley headed into November? November is for contenders. October and
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September it's for pretenders. As coach Bruce used to say,
what do you think about this team?
Speaker 5 (11:55):
I am the only thing that really worries me, and
this is terrible thing to worry about.
Speaker 4 (12:00):
As a coach.
Speaker 5 (12:00):
You can't ever worry about this, but injuries and we
haven't had him. That's the only thing I worry about.
I think they were really good at every position. Yeah,
maybe the run game a little better, but you know
we stayed healthy too. That was really helped out.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:16):
I thought, you know, the special teams thing, I would
say that that rears its ugly head from time to
time with me. I thought it was interesting today. You know,
on the Ohio State Radio network, Ryan Ay does his
show and Paul Keel's the voice of the buck Eyes,
brought up or maybe it was Jim Lashe I just
read the notes about this, brought up the fake punt
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that in the Wisconsin game where the guy gained twenty
yards on fourth and nineteen and picked up the first down,
and Ryan Day said, I, well, I was in a
good mood until you brought that up, because he said
that can never happen and cannot happen.
Speaker 3 (12:54):
Do you have any concerns about special teams, Roy.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
I don't.
Speaker 6 (12:58):
The thing with special teams is I feel like each
special team in each unit used to get their fair
amount of opportunities for coaches to coach and be creative.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
And you mentioned this about like.
Speaker 6 (13:10):
Different type of kickers and how they kick and punt
these like you don't even see guys going after the
block anymore. It's almost like if there's a block punt,
it doesn't even seem like it was on purpose. It
was almost like one of the protectors did something wrong
and we just happened to slip and fall into a block.
Whoever that we is for that team, but they don't
get as many reps as they used to, so they're
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not used to it, you know what I mean. When
somebody runs for twenty yards for a first down and
to the point, it's not supposed to happen, So it's
not a concern. If anything, people that are saying that
the running game these we're an efficient running team. If
it's you know, third and three, we pick up four,
that's okay. Like you know what I mean, Like the
exposive players have slowed down. I think Bo Jackson you
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can see, probably isn't all the way healthy. He doesn't
look as exposive as he has in the past, and
we have a three headed monster, so to speak. It's
almost like who's hot and who's not. But our running
game is efficient. Hence we're still driving the ball down
and having good drive down a field.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (14:06):
My frustrations only in the kicking game, and that's punting
and kicking. I mean, I just think it's been average
at best. Brandon Ennis has flashed a little bit in
the punt return game, but I don't have a high
degree of confidence. And Bill brought up a good point
in our first hour that Penn State is specialized in
blocking kicks.
Speaker 7 (14:25):
Four of them this year, three of them punts.
Speaker 8 (14:27):
And you know we saw the one scoop and score
on a field goal attempt from sixty three yards in
the Iowa game. That was your coach of the Year
and the Big Ten calling that thing at the right
before half and they scoop and score that one. And
I think they've scored on another one as well. I've
got them with two touchdowns in the special teams from
block kicks throughout the season. And you know, it just
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we've we don't want to be special. We just don't
want to make mistakes. It seems like to me that's
our attitude on special teams.
Speaker 5 (14:58):
Yeah, you know, in a game like this, you look
back historically, special teams has really been really caused someone
to lose.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
The one game that Ohio State is lost in this
thing the last ten years Bill that was it.
Speaker 3 (15:12):
It was a block field goal return for a touchdown
for Penn.
Speaker 5 (15:14):
State and White game was this week and the team
came back with Alabama where they punted the ball deep
and they brought back a punt return for a touchdown, got.
Speaker 4 (15:26):
Him back in the game.
Speaker 5 (15:27):
Now, why in the world would you if you're the
other team, might have been in Texas Tech or somebody.
If you're the other team, why would you have punt
the ball deep to their best return man, one of
the best in the country. They bring it back for
a touchdown. Then they end up winning the game. Row right, ticket.
Speaker 4 (15:46):
Out of balance. And the other thing it was long and.
Speaker 3 (15:51):
Oh it was the Texas game.
Speaker 10 (15:52):
Texas game, Texas coverage, Texas Texas do that, Yes, with
the eighty nine yard punt return, I got yeah, yeah, yeah,
for sure.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
I don't like the attitude some Buckeye fans. They seem
convinced that Penn State is going to be a breeze.
I have a feeling this is a dangerous game. It
sounds like Jeff Logan wrote it. They're still talented and
it would salvage their season. Does the Panels share my concern.
That's from Rick and you kind of started the show, Jeff,
feeling like.
Speaker 8 (16:22):
I feel like Matt McCoy. You know, I'm nervous, not
sleeping well, not eating well.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
I will say this about that points read you know,
and I could. I would believe Ohio State winning by twenty.
I would. However, Penn State has lost four in a row.
They've lost those four games by a total of thirteen points.
It's not like they've gotten hammered. They lost in overtimed Oregon.
They lost by five points and had the ball eight
against UCLA, Remember they failed. Ucla got a stop, and
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then they lost by one point twice two times in
a row. So there they've been in every game. I
would not be surprised. I guess what I'm saying, even
though I do think Ohio State's gonna win and Penn
State's depleted and all that, but I think they're gonna
take a big swing and it wouldn't surprise me if
it's a four quarter game.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
Four quarter, yeah, I think it's I don't see it.
Speaker 3 (17:16):
You think Ohio State's gonna hammer them?
Speaker 2 (17:18):
I don't know. I just don't.
Speaker 6 (17:19):
I mean, I mean, you lose your quarterback, you're coming here,
I mean, what are you going to do differently?
Speaker 2 (17:26):
You know?
Speaker 6 (17:26):
Like we are who we are is what I'm looking like.
We don't We're not an up and down team like
this week. We are pretty consistent, and I don't see.
Speaker 3 (17:33):
These Ohio State plays well, I.
Speaker 6 (17:35):
Don't see them being able to stop us, and I
think our defense is gonna be way too much and
unlike anything that those qbs have seen.
Speaker 5 (17:44):
I mean, it's like most teams that are in feared
us that we'd have to help them along and they
would have to have such a good running game with
both those two running backs Allen and Singleton, I'm sure
that's what we're gonna You must see both in the
same backfield at time. But Singleton's his longest rush from
scrimmags is sixteen yards.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
Wow.
Speaker 4 (18:03):
Now Allen had a sixty four yard or something like that.
Speaker 6 (18:05):
Yeah, But they if they put on that like Michigan helmet,
so to speak, and just say we're gonna run the
ball fifty five times and live with whatever happens in
play action and just that's what I If they do that,
then they could shorten a game down.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
But then to your point.
Speaker 6 (18:22):
I guess to your point, then you could see it
being a seventeen full fourteen game or seventeen seven game
heading into the fourth, but they would have to slow
it down crazy all right.
Speaker 1 (18:31):
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Speaker 3 (18:48):
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Speaker 1 (18:53):
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Speaker 3 (19:02):
Right now.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
As we continue with box line, Jeff Logan on the
edge of his seat, so is Roy Hall, So am
I because it is It is the time for Bill Conley.
Make sure your MIC's on Bill as we get ready
for the big moments. Know dyinne enemy about the Penn
State and Nitney Lions laid on this Bill.
Speaker 9 (19:22):
Here we go, Here we go.
Speaker 5 (19:23):
First game ever played by Penn State eighteen eighty seven.
Speaker 3 (19:28):
And Joe Paterno was coaching. No, it might have been.
Speaker 5 (19:32):
They went to and Oh they played Bucknell, both games,
same team. They outscored him combined score seventy eight to nothing.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
Wow.
Speaker 9 (19:40):
So it was a good start for him.
Speaker 4 (19:42):
But here's the thing.
Speaker 5 (19:43):
Their color is Roy. The initial colors pink and black. Yeah,
pink and black. Matter of fact, I might have been
there for that game because I can tell you what
their cheer was. This was their cheer in eighteen eighty seven,
raw raw raw, ye wish whack pink black PSC for
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Pennsylvania State College.
Speaker 4 (20:11):
There you go, how about that?
Speaker 8 (20:13):
No, we'll get Ell to turn on Roy's mike.
Speaker 3 (20:19):
There we go, there we go.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
All right.
Speaker 4 (20:21):
Now, here's the thing is bad about that.
Speaker 5 (20:24):
You know, pink and black, after you washed it a
few times and after it's been out in the sun,
changes colors. The pink got all faded out to really
white and the black became like a navy blue. So
they decide in eighteen nine, let's just make that our
colors for our team colors.
Speaker 2 (20:45):
Part when I stay out change the blue.
Speaker 5 (20:49):
Hey, now here's something everybody thinks. You you look at
TV and you pick games today, all right, and everybone
has Jersey numbers, and some have names. They wouldn't have
numbers on their until nineteen thirty, really amazing, amazing nineteen thirty.
And here also, you know, we all know that they're
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called the you know, the Niitney Lions, but they weren't
always the Nitney Lions.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
Was their mascot.
Speaker 5 (21:16):
Their mascot originally was a guy we've known very well.
Speaker 9 (21:19):
Old Coally.
Speaker 4 (21:21):
Now Old Coley was a mule.
Speaker 2 (21:24):
He is a big old mule.
Speaker 7 (21:25):
We've met him, haven't we.
Speaker 9 (21:26):
We have met him.
Speaker 5 (21:28):
And he was used by the people building the university
to call limestone well.
Speaker 4 (21:39):
Up from the quarry. Oh no, here's something coming.
Speaker 5 (21:44):
So that is Oh my god, it's a ghost of
Old Coally.
Speaker 2 (21:54):
Man.
Speaker 5 (21:55):
What what that's that's Old out on trick or treat night.
Speaker 4 (22:01):
All right, that was Old Coley.
Speaker 9 (22:03):
Now Old Coley. You can still see his bones today.
His skeleton is in.
Speaker 5 (22:11):
The first floor of one of the halls classroom halls
at Penn State.
Speaker 4 (22:17):
Go look at his his bones.
Speaker 1 (22:19):
Sometimes they don't put the fired coaches in there too.
Speaker 3 (22:25):
Inside of Franklin.
Speaker 5 (22:29):
But they did change to nick Lions in nineteen oh four,
and the Nitty Lion.
Speaker 9 (22:33):
Was declared the n s.
Speaker 5 (22:35):
O b ah, don't get their mind. Symbol of our best,
symbol of our best. That's what it meant, all right.
Speaker 4 (22:44):
They've had two national championships.
Speaker 5 (22:46):
As all you talk about the they've had some undefeated
seasons a lot of times when they were playing in
a real good league or anything. Only two national champions
one Heisman Trophy winner one John Capilletti.
Speaker 9 (23:00):
Hard to believe.
Speaker 3 (23:01):
Something for Joey if you ever want to cry.
Speaker 5 (23:03):
Now. They've had some other good players, frank O Harris,
it was a good one. Jack Ham, great linebacker. They
had Lenny Moore, great running back, LeVar Arrington, Saquon Barkley.
So they've had some good players, but only one Heisman
Trophy winner. But you know, the state of Pennsylvania's got
(23:24):
some unique things I gotta tell you about. First of all,
Pittsburgh area has six Hall of Fame quarterbacks from Pennsylvania
right in that area, Okay, all famous.
Speaker 4 (23:36):
They had guys that everybody's heard about. You got Joe.
Speaker 5 (23:39):
Montana, You've got Joe Namath, You've got Jim Kelly, You've
got Dan Marino, George Bland. I mean, these guys are
great players from that area. So it's a good football area.
And in nineteen forty three something happened is very unique.
Nineteen forty three, what's.
Speaker 7 (23:56):
Going on world?
Speaker 3 (23:58):
Were the Eagles.
Speaker 5 (24:00):
Philadelphia Eagles Pittsburgh Steelers did not have enough players for
a team. They combined to the game called the Steegles.
I am not making I'm not it and they went
five four and one.
Speaker 3 (24:16):
Wow.
Speaker 9 (24:17):
The Steegles look it up as a fact.
Speaker 3 (24:20):
That's interesting.
Speaker 5 (24:23):
Okay, you all right now what you talk about cold weather?
Speaker 4 (24:28):
You know it gets somewhat cold in Pennsylvania, but it's
not like Alaska. It's not like main and stuffing. But
they have a city in Pennsylvania that gets.
Speaker 5 (24:37):
The most snow in the United States each year, Erie,
Pennsylvania one hundred and thirty eight inches of snow. And
I know that's for a fact because I went to
that campus one time and it was maybe April or
some still snow on the ground.
Speaker 9 (24:56):
There's snow's a lot there.
Speaker 5 (24:58):
And Jeff Wisons for you, the oldest continual running golf
course in the United States of America, Foxburg Golf.
Speaker 4 (25:09):
Club, still in existence till today.
Speaker 2 (25:12):
The oldest in Americans.
Speaker 5 (25:14):
Start in eighteen eighty seven, the same year they played
football at Penn State.
Speaker 9 (25:20):
Okay, Roy's food truck. It's a little unique this.
Speaker 2 (25:23):
I want to do this.
Speaker 4 (25:24):
We're gonna have a three course.
Speaker 5 (25:25):
Meal, all right, and because I know how you like
your sweets, we're gonna.
Speaker 2 (25:29):
Have two desserts. You should take a picture of us
in front of me right.
Speaker 7 (25:32):
Now, your mom, it's going to be embarrassed.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
Yeah, alright.
Speaker 9 (25:37):
We're gonna start off with a Pittsburgh salad. Pittsburgh salad.
Speaker 5 (25:41):
Okay, it's a garden salad, but with French fries and
grilled chicken.
Speaker 2 (25:46):
That's all right.
Speaker 9 (25:47):
That's not bad, is it.
Speaker 2 (25:49):
That's all right. So it's a salad.
Speaker 9 (25:51):
It's a French fries and grilled chicken.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
The chicken you gotta have that with the sad.
Speaker 3 (25:56):
So that is a rationalizing meal.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
Chicken salad with French fries.
Speaker 3 (26:01):
Yeah, I'm having the lettuce, okay.
Speaker 9 (26:07):
But your main course hog mall h O G and
a w hogmall.
Speaker 2 (26:12):
You know what that is.
Speaker 5 (26:13):
That is the stomach of a pig stuffed with sausage, potatoes, carrots, celery, onions, cabbage,
and bread crumbs slowly roasted to its crisp h hogmall.
Speaker 2 (26:27):
That sounds disgusting to me. It just needs to be
not inside of a pig stuff. Just put it on
a plate.
Speaker 7 (26:37):
You like that though, wouldn't you?
Speaker 6 (26:38):
I mean I don't really like cabbage and onions like that,
but the four minute it sounded all right, not.
Speaker 4 (26:44):
Bad Pennsylvania favorite, okay.
Speaker 5 (26:46):
And for dessert, first ones shoe fly pie, shoe fly
pie molasses and brown sugar pie all right, with strusel
like crumbs on top, all right. And the reason guy's
name shoe fly was because it was so much sugar
and so sweeties would come way.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
I like that, shoe Fly.
Speaker 5 (27:09):
Get bout here, and your second dessert is a whoopie pie?
Speaker 2 (27:16):
Told us about the whoopie pies.
Speaker 9 (27:19):
Chocolate cake, Yeah, icing inside the middle.
Speaker 6 (27:23):
Icing, sinking to myself, like I've heard that.
Speaker 2 (27:29):
Wait a minute, we have whoopy pies and it was
like you brought him in like the next week. I know. Wow.
Speaker 7 (27:36):
Would you like to order him?
Speaker 2 (27:37):
Yes?
Speaker 9 (27:38):
Christmas?
Speaker 6 (27:39):
More right?
Speaker 3 (27:40):
Now?
Speaker 7 (27:40):
What you would like?
Speaker 5 (27:41):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (27:41):
Missus logan?
Speaker 6 (27:42):
Can we please have some whoopy pies the regular traditional
kind and then then then make another one with like
some chocolate chips in it somewhere?
Speaker 4 (27:53):
Man?
Speaker 3 (27:53):
All right? Is that like, didn't you say it's the
official Pennsylvania Like the.
Speaker 2 (28:00):
It's like my taste. But just had to go through
a memory. I was like, where did I have a
whoope pie? And I ended up with Jeff.
Speaker 5 (28:07):
Yeah, all right, we got to talk about the loss
in this crazy place of Pennsylvania. Number one, you can't
let your donkey ride a trolley. Yeah, don't take your
ass on a trolley. So no horn Nold Coley can
never ride a trolley. You can't shoot a cannon off
(28:29):
at a wedding. What about if you want to celebrate
we no cannon. Maybe a grenade launcher, but you can't
use a cannon. No riding a boat, you know, and
I see this one a lot back where I come from.
Speaker 9 (28:44):
No riding a boat that's being towed down the highway.
So you see the boat gun as being a whole
lot of trailer.
Speaker 7 (28:55):
I can see it's not skiing behind it.
Speaker 4 (28:59):
No, just writing in the should be okay, not allowed. No,
not a loud.
Speaker 5 (29:04):
You can't trade or sell your children.
Speaker 2 (29:08):
No transfer portal. I can't do it now.
Speaker 4 (29:15):
But here's the one you got watched.
Speaker 5 (29:18):
If you've ever been kicked out of your house by
your wife, Okay, you're not allowed to sleep on or
in a refrigerator southside, all right, on or in the refrigerator.
Speaker 9 (29:30):
Now it is anything about if it's inside.
Speaker 4 (29:34):
Yeah, the oh.
Speaker 7 (29:38):
You got your house.
Speaker 6 (29:39):
You know what she said was you and your refrigerator,
since you love it so much, can get out of
my house.
Speaker 2 (29:47):
And then he.
Speaker 6 (29:47):
Tried to sleep in the refrigerator at night and it
didn't work out.
Speaker 5 (29:52):
All right, Let's talk about some cities. They got a
city named eighty four. They couldn't think of an eighty
four Pennsylvania, like, yeah, it.
Speaker 4 (30:04):
Was highway, was on. They just couldn't think of the name.
Speaker 7 (30:06):
So this was called eighty four.
Speaker 2 (30:08):
Pretty simple.
Speaker 4 (30:09):
Yeah, okay, turnip pole, turnip pole, Pennsylvania.
Speaker 9 (30:13):
Pole or whole turn up, whole hole.
Speaker 5 (30:16):
Turn up whole one word, Pennsylvania. Bird in your hand, bird,
bird in your hand.
Speaker 4 (30:24):
Okay.
Speaker 5 (30:24):
But here, Fellas, I got to tell you this place,
this could be the most it.
Speaker 2 (30:30):
Could be the worst in the world.
Speaker 5 (30:32):
Okay, terrible, this is I feel terrible even mentioned these,
but I gotta do it.
Speaker 2 (30:37):
We have to Virginville.
Speaker 4 (30:38):
They got Virginville.
Speaker 5 (30:40):
They got beaver, they got shy beaver, they got big beaver, blue.
Speaker 9 (30:48):
Ball blue ball Pennsylvania.
Speaker 5 (30:52):
Yes, and they got of course intercourse Pennsylvania.
Speaker 3 (30:56):
Yes, I knew that was coming.
Speaker 5 (30:58):
And you know what's coming, climax Pennsylvania. Intercourse Pennsylvania. Climax Pennslvania.
Four and a half hours, the intercourse, the climax.
Speaker 9 (31:10):
I'd fall asleep. I mean we're talking about four and
a half hours long drive.
Speaker 4 (31:16):
Oh my gosh. Anyway, those it's a sixth state. I'm
telling you this in six states.
Speaker 3 (31:23):
Wow, all right, those.
Speaker 2 (31:25):
Are the keys.
Speaker 8 (31:25):
One of our great listeners who listens to us from
South Carolina, David Yes, who I've talked about before, huge
penn State fan.
Speaker 7 (31:32):
He says they have no chance.
Speaker 8 (31:34):
But he did say Johnny Unitas was one of those
quarterbacks from Pennsylvania.
Speaker 2 (31:37):
Is that right?
Speaker 4 (31:38):
Johnny Guice was from Pennsylvania. I'm not sure he was
really from the Pittsburgh area.
Speaker 7 (31:44):
Yeah, but he suggested that Johnny united.
Speaker 8 (31:46):
Johnye to Real Prior, Torell Prior, Oh.
Speaker 4 (31:50):
Yeah, and on and on.
Speaker 3 (31:52):
I mean, you know what's interesting.
Speaker 1 (31:53):
You mentioned all those quarterbacks that are in the Pittsburgh area.
None of them went to penn State. No, that's true, Which.
Speaker 3 (31:59):
Is like if I was going to capitalize.
Speaker 1 (32:02):
Why Penn State has been right there but not able
to get over the top is they haven't had that
we superstar quarterback.
Speaker 8 (32:11):
We really got some good players out of the state
of Pennsylvania to come to Ohio State. Guys like John
Frank comes to mind. Well, Eddie, George Tom took us down.
Speaker 7 (32:24):
A benefit, he was a liability.
Speaker 9 (32:26):
And how many minutes did he play well?
Speaker 7 (32:29):
Three time All American, three time All American.
Speaker 8 (32:31):
Three times All American First Team nineteen minutes he was
a punter.
Speaker 6 (32:39):
Nineteen minutes including Bowl games minutes, Crazy team time way.
Speaker 1 (32:46):
Bill Coley's No Dying Enemy with everything you wanted to
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and very sad thing that happened this week. This is
from Aaron. The Nick Mangold news was heartbreaking. Prayers to
his family. I have not heard does Ohio State have
any plans to honor him on Saturday? Aaron, I can
tell you that Ryan Day said there will be a
moment of silence. I know, Bill that you know hits
you hard, knowing Nick like you did. Just a great
(33:47):
buck guy who left his mark for sure at Ohio State.
Speaker 5 (33:50):
Yeah, great family, and I'll tell you what He'll be
really missed. And he's a guy that's just a great
leader by example, knowled just how play the game, but
how his the way he was respected by everybody.
Speaker 4 (34:04):
It's just a very special guy.
Speaker 2 (34:07):
Nick was a good dude man with same recruiting class.
Speaker 7 (34:10):
So you guys, you guys were saying recruiting.
Speaker 2 (34:13):
Yeah, so we got a chance to play play four
years together.
Speaker 6 (34:16):
And you know, just everything that you've read about him
has been absolutely awesome to hear his brothers come out
and say somethings, some positive things, but it just gives
you perspective, man, Like, whenever I see anyone pass away
for real, it just gives you a different perspective on life.
Speaker 2 (34:30):
But specifically when it's somebody your same age, you know
what I mean.
Speaker 6 (34:34):
Forty one is just so young, but he's been battling
for you know, ten plus years.
Speaker 8 (34:41):
Yeah, you tweeted something out today that was a very
positive message about keeping your head up.
Speaker 2 (34:47):
Yeah, share that.
Speaker 6 (34:49):
No, it's just just in life, man, Like, You've got
to figure out a way to keep walking tall man,
and keep your head up, and so many different things
in life is happening on a day to day basis
that can get you down, but you have to figure
out a way to be resilient persevered man.
Speaker 2 (35:06):
You absolutely got to walk through it. Man.
Speaker 1 (35:08):
One last thing too, Bob Meggs also another great Buckeye center,
all big ten when I was in school in the eighties,
also passed away.
Speaker 8 (35:15):
And the son's a member of this football team right now,
a walk on quarterback.
Speaker 1 (35:19):
Yes, they will all be remembered on Saturday, Bill Roy, Jeff,
thanks very much. We will be back with you Saturday
at nine in the morning, getting you ready for the
Buckeyes and Penn State. Join us then and talk to
you next week on bucks Line as well on their
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Welcome back our number two of bucks line Matt McCoy
with Jeff Logan, Bill Conley, and Roy Hall joining us.
We talked Buckeyes with you, Bill coming up about a
half hour away from No Dine Enemy with fun facts
about the Penn State and Nitney Lyons Roy joining us.
Thank you, by the way for the treats turnacy of
what Ghana parents' moms.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Yeahhannah Lincoln football mom.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
Yeah, and you got Groveport tomorrow in the playoffs.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Yeah, we didn't have.
Speaker 4 (00:27):
To go to the house to get these streets either,
I know.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
Yeah, no, very nice and or dress up.
Speaker 5 (00:32):
I know.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
That's great.
Speaker 6 (00:33):
It's kind of cold and rainy a trick or treat man,
it's crazy. That's feel bad for the kids, man.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
Yeah, my wife just texted said it was slow at
the start, but now there's a run of kids right now.
Speaker 7 (00:42):
So rain must have slowed down a little bit.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
A little bit.
Speaker 7 (00:44):
Yeah, So how are the height chews? That's what I
really want to know.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
Here's the deal.
Speaker 6 (00:47):
This is awesome that you guys have put them in
this nice, little fancy bowl which probably costs about ten
cents to make, and so I'm thankful for this dish
on things Thanksgiving on Halloween. Halloween, I didn't have to
say trick or treat or anything. It's just three white
guys giving me candies. So I appreciate you. Gotta be suspicious,
(01:08):
you know what I mean. I'm the one that came
in looked like I had on makeup, So I mean,
you know, I got a little bit.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
Okay from Twitter.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
I got a fourth white guy Berry in California.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
Of course, his name is Barry and Kelly.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
When Roy takes out his bag at the end of
the night and dumps candy on the floor, what three
candies are he are his favorites?
Speaker 3 (01:27):
And what three does he hate to see? So go bucks.
Speaker 6 (01:31):
So you're assuming, my man, Barry, you're assuming that I
went trick or treating. I go out and I smacked
a bunch of little kids in the chest, and I
take their candy from them. And when I get their
candy bags High Choose. Of course, if it has high
Chows in there, that's a good situation. However, you know,
(01:51):
it's kind of difficult to kind of you have a
hand like you've got hag chows. Like if you give
me a bag of High Choose, I would be happy.
I like trigger treating you like Snickers? I like anything
like a king size something. There you go, hey, all
those little bitty tiny candies, I'm good one, But give
me a king size Snickers, a large, like a kit Cat.
(02:13):
I like those types of things because I don't eat
them a lot. So that that's where I'm get there.
So KitKat, Snickers, maybe, some peanut and M and m's maybe,
but they can get smashed and the bag gets crinkled up.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
I don't like it, but I choose for sure.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
The question off of the air, Jeff, And that's very
much in the spot on right with what you said.
Speaker 7 (02:32):
I knew I had a little bit of that black
blood in you.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
Something you go.
Speaker 8 (02:34):
There, you go, Hey, So what are the worst three?
That was his other question. What's the bottom of the
barrel that you're gonna throw in the trash?
Speaker 2 (02:41):
Stuff like milk duds? No, I like reese You're there.
Speaker 6 (02:45):
I like Reese's because you can freeze them and they're
pretty good. The chocolates really good when you freeze them.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
Usually it's it's like I said, stuff like milk duds.
Speaker 3 (02:54):
What about Twizzlers?
Speaker 2 (02:56):
Like? I like twizzlers?
Speaker 3 (02:57):
You like them?
Speaker 2 (02:57):
I'm not a really like big toffee guy.
Speaker 7 (03:02):
How about all the joy with the I can do.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
My mom likes almond joys.
Speaker 6 (03:09):
And those are okay because it's dark chocolate, so I
can deal with that, But I won't throw those away.
People that do stupid stuff like leave notes, you know
what I mean, like, hey, have a happy Halloween. Like
I don't want your note, I want more candy, you
know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
Just stuff like that. But that's terrible Nickel, Yeah, not
doing that.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
There was when my kids were of trick or Treat age.
They came back and somebody was handing out like pencils
and erasers.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
I was there, Yeah, like, yeah, that was.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
You know how terrible that is?
Speaker 6 (03:46):
Like what you look in your bag and there's like
a number two pencil like Matt Patricia's pencils in the
Halloween bag?
Speaker 2 (03:55):
What are we doing?
Speaker 5 (03:56):
Maybe it is him?
Speaker 3 (03:59):
Speaking of Matt Patricia.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
You know the whole coordinator situation with Jim Knowles against
Ohio State from Twitter, who has the bigger advantage Ohio
State because they know what Jim Knowles likes to do
on defense or Penn State because Jim Noles knows what
the Buckeys like to do on offense or is there
no advantage? I added the is there no advantage? Do
(04:23):
you think either team has any kind of an advantage
because of their familiarity with each other?
Speaker 6 (04:27):
Ohio State has the advantage because Penn State is terrible
this year. So Jim Knowles is not even players, right,
Jim Knowles is not even calling the game the way
that he would want to call it and the way
that he's.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
Been calling it a lot of times.
Speaker 6 (04:40):
Scheme and coaches, rightfully, so should get credit for their scheme.
Certain guys fit into certain schemes, as we see even
with Matt Patricia this year, he's running an NFL type
scheme with NFL qualities and layers to it, and he
has the players to your point, Jeff, to be able
to execute that scheme. Now, Jim Knowles had a really
(05:04):
good scheme, as evident by US winning the national title
with his scheme, and now his scheme is at Penn State.
He doesn't have the players and they don't have the confidence.
And so because even offensively they can't put up points
the way that we did, protect the football the way
that we did, he can't run that same scheme. So
he looks pedestrian. They look pedestrian. And when you don't
(05:26):
have confidence as a team, you don't have confidence in your.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
Team, your scheme is gonna be terrible.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (05:33):
What do you think that locker room's like after four
straight losses?
Speaker 2 (05:36):
Receiving pencils on Halloween?
Speaker 9 (05:38):
Yeah, I mean.
Speaker 8 (05:40):
I mean, there's still are I mean the Penn State family,
the Penn State dudes have an incredible amount of pride
in who they are, what they're all about, the we
are Penn State. The almost it's almost sickening, but it's
really important to their character and what they're all about.
What I've win us though, is I've watched that whole thing,
(06:02):
just like the rats are jumping.
Speaker 7 (06:04):
Off the ship.
Speaker 8 (06:05):
Yeah, and I don't know that they've got the capacity
as far down as they have gone, because Roddie still
have the talent.
Speaker 6 (06:12):
Yeah, it's it's a and I was thinking about what
I wanted to compare it to. So I want to
be sensitive to this because I actually went through it.
But let's just say it this way, in a very
polite way. When you have a household that's a two
parent household and it's a split, it becomes very difficult
for the kids one way or another.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
Yep, when you when if dad's not there.
Speaker 6 (06:34):
And I'm not saying that James Franklin is dad, but
he's head coach. If he's gone, and now somebody else's
and then you're looking like where'd you go? Like, I
like the person that you talk to, they think about
the players. You got a mentor in James Franklin, a coach,
a friend, a teacher. You got parents of those kids
that are there that said, hey, you're going to take
(06:55):
care of my kid for three to four years, help
them make their dreams come true. And now somebody else
said you gotta go. So now you're like you have
to like what am I gonna do now?
Speaker 5 (07:06):
Like?
Speaker 6 (07:06):
Can I still talk to James Franklin? Can I call
him and say, hey, coach? Like what should I do
about this? Like the whole locker room is fractured because
some of them might be like good writtence, the other
of them are like, man, where's my guy?
Speaker 2 (07:18):
That's messed up? This?
Speaker 6 (07:20):
This is a business, and so you're just no air.
It takes a long time to recover. It takes time
to adjust to who's ever the leader and why should
I respect whoever's the interim head coach because.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
They're not going to be here.
Speaker 6 (07:34):
And then I got my brothers in the locker room,
like I'm leaving, I got this person talk. So now
everybody's on different pages and so you can never recover
from that situation.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
Man Like those that stay.
Speaker 6 (07:46):
Obviously are good, but it just takes a while to rebuild.
Speaker 7 (07:50):
Let me keep going on. This is it all right?
Speaker 8 (07:52):
So how different is it in that locker room today
versus what it was like with Ryan Day after the
loss against the team up North last year, because that
was broken and fractured and it hadn't happened.
Speaker 3 (08:06):
In a different way.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
Well, yeah, but the impact was similar, yes, no doubt
is the fact.
Speaker 7 (08:12):
That you still had dad there to pull things back.
Speaker 6 (08:15):
Yeah, and and and so that was a conversation. But
the difference is nobody above them made a decision for them.
Somebody else came and said, he's out your fire. So
we don't even get a chance to talk about these things.
And I think that's the biggest difference, because Ryan Day
was the one who allowed his senior captains to call
(08:37):
an all players meeting. So when you still have to
your point, the headman in charge is still there and
we just lost the game.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
But you guys want to figure out what's what I'm
going to allow us to do that. It's a family talk.
Speaker 6 (08:50):
We got a family still, we still have our family together.
So we're gonna have a hard conversation as a family,
and we're gonna come out of this thing stronger as
opposed to a coach gone.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
We don't need to talk about anything at this point
in time. Jim Knowles is probably like, you gotta be
kidding me.
Speaker 3 (09:06):
Yeah, I wonder what he's thinking now, Bill.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
Let me just go ahead and cash his check.
Speaker 5 (09:09):
Well, you know the question you initially asked, was it
kind of interesting? What do you gain from a guy
like Jim Knowles that left this program to another? And
sometimes I think an issue is when you're a team
is so worried about trying to figure things out about
the other team from another guy that was there, that's
(09:30):
too much concentration on one thing and they.
Speaker 4 (09:33):
Should play a little slow.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
YEP, I really do that.
Speaker 5 (09:36):
I think that maybe maybe like this, we'll say Jim
Knowles as well, you know that receiver there, you know
when he runs this route, he runs a little sharper
than he runs another one.
Speaker 4 (09:46):
Or something like that.
Speaker 5 (09:47):
It might be little things about player personnel more than
scheme of things, because we can change the scheme.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
So are you like paralysis by analysis if you think
too much?
Speaker 4 (09:56):
Yep, exactly.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
I think.
Speaker 8 (09:57):
I think Jim Moles may file a lawsuit though, against
Ohio State because they didn't allow him access to rvil Reece.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
That could be like where was where's Caleb Downs, Where's
where's Rvel?
Speaker 7 (10:16):
Last year? Yeah?
Speaker 8 (10:17):
He's behind Sunny Styles and uh and Simon Cony. Simon
Simon who was playing at a very high level, but
he got to be like the same thing.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
Like who's eight? Is that.
Speaker 7 (10:31):
It's rvel Rece?
Speaker 4 (10:32):
Yeah, well here's something that you mention it.
Speaker 5 (10:35):
You think if there was that real close bond, you know,
he was thinking, well, if I go Penn State, maybe
a couple of these guys will come with me.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
It didn't happen. In the first year.
Speaker 1 (10:46):
We continue to talk about eyes with you, Bill's nov
an enemy, about Penn State about ten minutes away. Box
Line and Service and Legacy Retirement Group continues after this
on six ten w TV. Yet we are back all
box line. Matt McCoy with Bill, Bill Conley. He's ten
minutes away from No Dine enemy Roy Hall and also
at Jeff Logan. We'll be with you on Saturday morning
(11:08):
at nine o'clock with the best Buckeye coverage. Pregame show
live from Lane Avenue will take you up to the
Newton kickoff of the Buckeyes and ben State on Fox.
And because it's an early game, we'll have a postgame
show till five o'clock after the game. So tune us
in on Saturday when the Buckeyes take on the Nitney Lions.
Got this from Glenn Earl used to say that November
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is for contenders. What's your biggest concern about the buck
Eyes heading into November? And then he says, note mine
is on special teams as we face better competition, I
fear could cost us a game. Again, that's from Glenn.
Do you have as you look at this team, Bill
Conley headed into November? November is for contenders. October and
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September it's for pretenders. As coach Bruce used to say,
what do you think about this team?
Speaker 5 (11:55):
I am the only thing that really worries me, and
this is terrible thing to worry about.
Speaker 4 (12:00):
As a coach.
Speaker 5 (12:00):
You can't ever worry about this, but injuries and we
haven't had him. That's the only thing I worry about.
I think they were really good at every position. Yeah,
maybe the run game a little better, but you know
we stayed healthy too. That was really helped out.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:16):
I thought, you know, the special teams thing, I would
say that that rears its ugly head from time to
time with me. I thought it was interesting today. You know,
on the Ohio State Radio network, Ryan Ay does his
show and Paul Keel's the voice of the buck Eyes,
brought up or maybe it was Jim Lashe I just
read the notes about this, brought up the fake punt
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that in the Wisconsin game where the guy gained twenty
yards on fourth and nineteen and picked up the first down,
and Ryan Day said, I, well, I was in a
good mood until you brought that up, because he said
that can never happen and cannot happen.
Speaker 3 (12:54):
Do you have any concerns about special teams, Roy.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
I don't.
Speaker 6 (12:58):
The thing with special teams is I feel like each
special team in each unit used to get their fair
amount of opportunities for coaches to coach and be creative.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
And you mentioned this about like.
Speaker 6 (13:10):
Different type of kickers and how they kick and punt
these like you don't even see guys going after the
block anymore. It's almost like if there's a block punt,
it doesn't even seem like it was on purpose. It
was almost like one of the protectors did something wrong
and we just happened to slip and fall into a block.
Whoever that we is for that team, but they don't
get as many reps as they used to, so they're
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not used to it, you know what I mean. When
somebody runs for twenty yards for a first down and
to the point, it's not supposed to happen, So it's
not a concern. If anything, people that are saying that
the running game these we're an efficient running team. If
it's you know, third and three, we pick up four,
that's okay. Like you know what I mean, Like the
exposive players have slowed down. I think Bo Jackson you
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can see, probably isn't all the way healthy. He doesn't
look as exposive as he has in the past, and
we have a three headed monster, so to speak. It's
almost like who's hot and who's not. But our running
game is efficient. Hence we're still driving the ball down
and having good drive down a field.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (14:06):
My frustrations only in the kicking game, and that's punting
and kicking. I mean, I just think it's been average
at best. Brandon Ennis has flashed a little bit in
the punt return game, but I don't have a high
degree of confidence. And Bill brought up a good point
in our first hour that Penn State is specialized in
blocking kicks.
Speaker 7 (14:25):
Four of them this year, three of them punts.
Speaker 8 (14:27):
And you know we saw the one scoop and score
on a field goal attempt from sixty three yards in
the Iowa game. That was your coach of the Year
and the Big Ten calling that thing at the right
before half and they scoop and score that one. And
I think they've scored on another one as well. I've
got them with two touchdowns in the special teams from
block kicks throughout the season. And you know, it just
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we've we don't want to be special. We just don't
want to make mistakes. It seems like to me that's
our attitude on special teams.
Speaker 5 (14:58):
Yeah, you know, in a game like this, you look
back historically, special teams has really been really caused someone
to lose.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
The one game that Ohio State is lost in this
thing the last ten years Bill that was it.
Speaker 3 (15:12):
It was a block field goal return for a touchdown
for Penn.
Speaker 5 (15:14):
State and White game was this week and the team
came back with Alabama where they punted the ball deep
and they brought back a punt return for a touchdown, got.
Speaker 4 (15:26):
Him back in the game.
Speaker 5 (15:27):
Now, why in the world would you if you're the
other team, might have been in Texas Tech or somebody.
If you're the other team, why would you have punt
the ball deep to their best return man, one of
the best in the country. They bring it back for
a touchdown. Then they end up winning the game. Row right, ticket.
Speaker 4 (15:46):
Out of balance. And the other thing it was long and.
Speaker 3 (15:51):
Oh it was the Texas game.
Speaker 10 (15:52):
Texas game, Texas coverage, Texas Texas do that, Yes, with
the eighty nine yard punt return, I got yeah, yeah, yeah,
for sure.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
I don't like the attitude some Buckeye fans. They seem
convinced that Penn State is going to be a breeze.
I have a feeling this is a dangerous game. It
sounds like Jeff Logan wrote it. They're still talented and
it would salvage their season. Does the Panels share my concern.
That's from Rick and you kind of started the show, Jeff,
feeling like.
Speaker 8 (16:22):
I feel like Matt McCoy. You know, I'm nervous, not
sleeping well, not eating well.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
I will say this about that points read you know,
and I could. I would believe Ohio State winning by twenty.
I would. However, Penn State has lost four in a row.
They've lost those four games by a total of thirteen points.
It's not like they've gotten hammered. They lost in overtimed Oregon.
They lost by five points and had the ball eight
against UCLA, Remember they failed. Ucla got a stop, and
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then they lost by one point twice two times in
a row. So there they've been in every game. I
would not be surprised. I guess what I'm saying, even
though I do think Ohio State's gonna win and Penn
State's depleted and all that, but I think they're gonna
take a big swing and it wouldn't surprise me if
it's a four quarter game.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
Four quarter, yeah, I think it's I don't see it.
Speaker 3 (17:16):
You think Ohio State's gonna hammer them?
Speaker 2 (17:18):
I don't know. I just don't.
Speaker 6 (17:19):
I mean, I mean, you lose your quarterback, you're coming here,
I mean, what are you going to do differently?
Speaker 2 (17:26):
You know?
Speaker 6 (17:26):
Like we are who we are is what I'm looking like.
We don't We're not an up and down team like
this week. We are pretty consistent, and I don't see.
Speaker 3 (17:33):
These Ohio State plays well, I.
Speaker 6 (17:35):
Don't see them being able to stop us, and I
think our defense is gonna be way too much and
unlike anything that those qbs have seen.
Speaker 5 (17:44):
I mean, it's like most teams that are in feared
us that we'd have to help them along and they
would have to have such a good running game with
both those two running backs Allen and Singleton, I'm sure
that's what we're gonna You must see both in the
same backfield at time. But Singleton's his longest rush from
scrimmags is sixteen yards.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
Wow.
Speaker 4 (18:03):
Now Allen had a sixty four yard or something like that.
Speaker 6 (18:05):
Yeah, But they if they put on that like Michigan helmet,
so to speak, and just say we're gonna run the
ball fifty five times and live with whatever happens in
play action and just that's what I If they do that,
then they could shorten a game down.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
But then to your point.
Speaker 6 (18:22):
I guess to your point, then you could see it
being a seventeen full fourteen game or seventeen seven game
heading into the fourth, but they would have to slow
it down crazy all right.
Speaker 1 (18:31):
The time has come. Bill Conley's Know thine enemy about
the Penn State Nintey Lions. It's coming up next. We're
back after this on bucks Line on six to ten
dou WTV. Yet the Buckeyes and Penn State coming up
at noon on Fox.
Speaker 3 (18:48):
It is a blackout, so if you're going, we're black
even though it's a noon game.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
We will be on the air from Lane Avenue starting
at nine in the morning with the best Buck Eye
coverage pregame show. So tune us in and we'll get
you ready for the game.
Speaker 3 (19:02):
Right now.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
As we continue with box line, Jeff Logan on the
edge of his seat, so is Roy Hall, So am
I because it is It is the time for Bill Conley.
Make sure your MIC's on Bill as we get ready
for the big moments. Know dyinne enemy about the Penn
State and Nitney Lions laid on this Bill.
Speaker 9 (19:22):
Here we go, Here we go.
Speaker 5 (19:23):
First game ever played by Penn State eighteen eighty seven.
Speaker 3 (19:28):
And Joe Paterno was coaching. No, it might have been.
Speaker 5 (19:32):
They went to and Oh they played Bucknell, both games,
same team. They outscored him combined score seventy eight to nothing.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
Wow.
Speaker 9 (19:40):
So it was a good start for him.
Speaker 4 (19:42):
But here's the thing.
Speaker 5 (19:43):
Their color is Roy. The initial colors pink and black. Yeah,
pink and black. Matter of fact, I might have been
there for that game because I can tell you what
their cheer was. This was their cheer in eighteen eighty seven,
raw raw raw, ye wish whack pink black PSC for
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Pennsylvania State College.
Speaker 4 (20:11):
There you go, how about that?
Speaker 8 (20:13):
No, we'll get Ell to turn on Roy's mike.
Speaker 3 (20:19):
There we go, there we go.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
All right.
Speaker 4 (20:21):
Now, here's the thing is bad about that.
Speaker 5 (20:24):
You know, pink and black, after you washed it a
few times and after it's been out in the sun,
changes colors. The pink got all faded out to really
white and the black became like a navy blue. So
they decide in eighteen nine, let's just make that our
colors for our team colors.
Speaker 2 (20:45):
Part when I stay out change the blue.
Speaker 5 (20:49):
Hey, now here's something everybody thinks. You you look at
TV and you pick games today, all right, and everybone
has Jersey numbers, and some have names. They wouldn't have
numbers on their until nineteen thirty, really amazing, amazing nineteen thirty.
And here also, you know, we all know that they're
(21:09):
called the you know, the Niitney Lions, but they weren't
always the Nitney Lions.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
Was their mascot.
Speaker 5 (21:16):
Their mascot originally was a guy we've known very well.
Speaker 9 (21:19):
Old Coally.
Speaker 4 (21:21):
Now Old Coley was a mule.
Speaker 2 (21:24):
He is a big old mule.
Speaker 7 (21:25):
We've met him, haven't we.
Speaker 9 (21:26):
We have met him.
Speaker 5 (21:28):
And he was used by the people building the university
to call limestone well.
Speaker 4 (21:39):
Up from the quarry. Oh no, here's something coming.
Speaker 5 (21:44):
So that is Oh my god, it's a ghost of
Old Coally.
Speaker 2 (21:54):
Man.
Speaker 5 (21:55):
What what that's that's Old out on trick or treat night.
Speaker 4 (22:01):
All right, that was Old Coley.
Speaker 9 (22:03):
Now Old Coley. You can still see his bones today.
His skeleton is in.
Speaker 5 (22:11):
The first floor of one of the halls classroom halls
at Penn State.
Speaker 4 (22:17):
Go look at his his bones.
Speaker 1 (22:19):
Sometimes they don't put the fired coaches in there too.
Speaker 3 (22:25):
Inside of Franklin.
Speaker 5 (22:29):
But they did change to nick Lions in nineteen oh four,
and the Nitty Lion.
Speaker 9 (22:33):
Was declared the n s.
Speaker 5 (22:35):
O b ah, don't get their mind. Symbol of our best,
symbol of our best. That's what it meant, all right.
Speaker 4 (22:44):
They've had two national championships.
Speaker 5 (22:46):
As all you talk about the they've had some undefeated
seasons a lot of times when they were playing in
a real good league or anything. Only two national champions
one Heisman Trophy winner one John Capilletti.
Speaker 9 (23:00):
Hard to believe.
Speaker 3 (23:01):
Something for Joey if you ever want to cry.
Speaker 5 (23:03):
Now. They've had some other good players, frank O Harris,
it was a good one. Jack Ham, great linebacker. They
had Lenny Moore, great running back, LeVar Arrington, Saquon Barkley.
So they've had some good players, but only one Heisman
Trophy winner. But you know, the state of Pennsylvania's got
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some unique things I gotta tell you about. First of all,
Pittsburgh area has six Hall of Fame quarterbacks from Pennsylvania
right in that area, Okay, all famous.
Speaker 4 (23:36):
They had guys that everybody's heard about. You got Joe.
Speaker 5 (23:39):
Montana, You've got Joe Namath, You've got Jim Kelly, You've
got Dan Marino, George Bland. I mean, these guys are
great players from that area. So it's a good football area.
And in nineteen forty three something happened is very unique.
Nineteen forty three, what's.
Speaker 7 (23:56):
Going on world?
Speaker 3 (23:58):
Were the Eagles.
Speaker 5 (24:00):
Philadelphia Eagles Pittsburgh Steelers did not have enough players for
a team. They combined to the game called the Steegles.
I am not making I'm not it and they went
five four and one.
Speaker 3 (24:16):
Wow.
Speaker 9 (24:17):
The Steegles look it up as a fact.
Speaker 3 (24:20):
That's interesting.
Speaker 5 (24:23):
Okay, you all right now what you talk about cold weather?
Speaker 4 (24:28):
You know it gets somewhat cold in Pennsylvania, but it's
not like Alaska. It's not like main and stuffing. But
they have a city in Pennsylvania that gets.
Speaker 5 (24:37):
The most snow in the United States each year, Erie,
Pennsylvania one hundred and thirty eight inches of snow. And
I know that's for a fact because I went to
that campus one time and it was maybe April or
some still snow on the ground.
Speaker 9 (24:56):
There's snow's a lot there.
Speaker 5 (24:58):
And Jeff Wisons for you, the oldest continual running golf
course in the United States of America, Foxburg Golf.
Speaker 4 (25:09):
Club, still in existence till today.
Speaker 2 (25:12):
The oldest in Americans.
Speaker 5 (25:14):
Start in eighteen eighty seven, the same year they played
football at Penn State.
Speaker 9 (25:20):
Okay, Roy's food truck. It's a little unique this.
Speaker 2 (25:23):
I want to do this.
Speaker 4 (25:24):
We're gonna have a three course.
Speaker 5 (25:25):
Meal, all right, and because I know how you like
your sweets, we're gonna.
Speaker 2 (25:29):
Have two desserts. You should take a picture of us
in front of me right.
Speaker 7 (25:32):
Now, your mom, it's going to be embarrassed.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
Yeah, alright.
Speaker 9 (25:37):
We're gonna start off with a Pittsburgh salad. Pittsburgh salad.
Speaker 5 (25:41):
Okay, it's a garden salad, but with French fries and
grilled chicken.
Speaker 2 (25:46):
That's all right.
Speaker 9 (25:47):
That's not bad, is it.
Speaker 2 (25:49):
That's all right. So it's a salad.
Speaker 9 (25:51):
It's a French fries and grilled chicken.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
The chicken you gotta have that with the sad.
Speaker 3 (25:56):
So that is a rationalizing meal.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
Chicken salad with French fries.
Speaker 3 (26:01):
Yeah, I'm having the lettuce, okay.
Speaker 9 (26:07):
But your main course hog mall h O G and
a w hogmall.
Speaker 2 (26:12):
You know what that is.
Speaker 5 (26:13):
That is the stomach of a pig stuffed with sausage, potatoes, carrots, celery, onions, cabbage,
and bread crumbs slowly roasted to its crisp h hogmall.
Speaker 2 (26:27):
That sounds disgusting to me. It just needs to be
not inside of a pig stuff. Just put it on
a plate.
Speaker 7 (26:37):
You like that though, wouldn't you?
Speaker 6 (26:38):
I mean I don't really like cabbage and onions like that,
but the four minute it sounded all right, not.
Speaker 4 (26:44):
Bad Pennsylvania favorite, okay.
Speaker 5 (26:46):
And for dessert, first ones shoe fly pie, shoe fly
pie molasses and brown sugar pie all right, with strusel
like crumbs on top, all right. And the reason guy's
name shoe fly was because it was so much sugar
and so sweeties would come way.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
I like that, shoe Fly.
Speaker 5 (27:09):
Get bout here, and your second dessert is a whoopie pie?
Speaker 2 (27:16):
Told us about the whoopie pies.
Speaker 9 (27:19):
Chocolate cake, Yeah, icing inside the middle.
Speaker 6 (27:23):
Icing, sinking to myself, like I've heard that.
Speaker 2 (27:29):
Wait a minute, we have whoopy pies and it was
like you brought him in like the next week. I know. Wow.
Speaker 7 (27:36):
Would you like to order him?
Speaker 2 (27:37):
Yes?
Speaker 9 (27:38):
Christmas?
Speaker 6 (27:39):
More right?
Speaker 3 (27:40):
Now?
Speaker 7 (27:40):
What you would like?
Speaker 5 (27:41):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (27:41):
Missus logan?
Speaker 6 (27:42):
Can we please have some whoopy pies the regular traditional
kind and then then then make another one with like
some chocolate chips in it somewhere?
Speaker 4 (27:53):
Man?
Speaker 3 (27:53):
All right? Is that like, didn't you say it's the
official Pennsylvania Like the.
Speaker 2 (28:00):
It's like my taste. But just had to go through
a memory. I was like, where did I have a
whoope pie? And I ended up with Jeff.
Speaker 5 (28:07):
Yeah, all right, we got to talk about the loss
in this crazy place of Pennsylvania. Number one, you can't
let your donkey ride a trolley. Yeah, don't take your
ass on a trolley. So no horn Nold Coley can
never ride a trolley. You can't shoot a cannon off
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at a wedding. What about if you want to celebrate
we no cannon. Maybe a grenade launcher, but you can't
use a cannon. No riding a boat, you know, and
I see this one a lot back where I come from.
Speaker 9 (28:44):
No riding a boat that's being towed down the highway.
So you see the boat gun as being a whole
lot of trailer.
Speaker 7 (28:55):
I can see it's not skiing behind it.
Speaker 4 (28:59):
No, just writing in the should be okay, not allowed. No,
not a loud.
Speaker 5 (29:04):
You can't trade or sell your children.
Speaker 2 (29:08):
No transfer portal. I can't do it now.
Speaker 4 (29:15):
But here's the one you got watched.
Speaker 5 (29:18):
If you've ever been kicked out of your house by
your wife, Okay, you're not allowed to sleep on or
in a refrigerator southside, all right, on or in the refrigerator.
Speaker 9 (29:30):
Now it is anything about if it's inside.
Speaker 4 (29:34):
Yeah, the oh.
Speaker 7 (29:38):
You got your house.
Speaker 6 (29:39):
You know what she said was you and your refrigerator,
since you love it so much, can get out of
my house.
Speaker 2 (29:47):
And then he.
Speaker 6 (29:47):
Tried to sleep in the refrigerator at night and it
didn't work out.
Speaker 5 (29:52):
All right, Let's talk about some cities. They got a
city named eighty four. They couldn't think of an eighty
four Pennsylvania, like, yeah, it.
Speaker 4 (30:04):
Was highway, was on. They just couldn't think of the name.
Speaker 7 (30:06):
So this was called eighty four.
Speaker 2 (30:08):
Pretty simple.
Speaker 4 (30:09):
Yeah, okay, turnip pole, turnip pole, Pennsylvania.
Speaker 9 (30:13):
Pole or whole turn up, whole hole.
Speaker 5 (30:16):
Turn up whole one word, Pennsylvania. Bird in your hand, bird,
bird in your hand.
Speaker 4 (30:24):
Okay.
Speaker 5 (30:24):
But here, Fellas, I got to tell you this place,
this could be the most it.
Speaker 2 (30:30):
Could be the worst in the world.
Speaker 5 (30:32):
Okay, terrible, this is I feel terrible even mentioned these,
but I gotta do it.
Speaker 2 (30:37):
We have to Virginville.
Speaker 4 (30:38):
They got Virginville.
Speaker 5 (30:40):
They got beaver, they got shy beaver, they got big beaver, blue.
Speaker 9 (30:48):
Ball blue ball Pennsylvania.
Speaker 5 (30:52):
Yes, and they got of course intercourse Pennsylvania.
Speaker 3 (30:56):
Yes, I knew that was coming.
Speaker 5 (30:58):
And you know what's coming, climax Pennsylvania. Intercourse Pennsylvania. Climax Pennslvania.
Four and a half hours, the intercourse, the climax.
Speaker 9 (31:10):
I'd fall asleep. I mean we're talking about four and
a half hours long drive.
Speaker 4 (31:16):
Oh my gosh. Anyway, those it's a sixth state. I'm
telling you this in six states.
Speaker 3 (31:23):
Wow, all right, those.
Speaker 2 (31:25):
Are the keys.
Speaker 8 (31:25):
One of our great listeners who listens to us from
South Carolina, David Yes, who I've talked about before, huge
penn State fan.
Speaker 7 (31:32):
He says they have no chance.
Speaker 8 (31:34):
But he did say Johnny Unitas was one of those
quarterbacks from Pennsylvania.
Speaker 2 (31:37):
Is that right?
Speaker 4 (31:38):
Johnny Guice was from Pennsylvania. I'm not sure he was
really from the Pittsburgh area.
Speaker 7 (31:44):
Yeah, but he suggested that Johnny united.
Speaker 8 (31:46):
Johnye to Real Prior, Torell Prior, Oh.
Speaker 4 (31:50):
Yeah, and on and on.
Speaker 3 (31:52):
I mean, you know what's interesting.
Speaker 1 (31:53):
You mentioned all those quarterbacks that are in the Pittsburgh area.
None of them went to penn State. No, that's true, Which.
Speaker 3 (31:59):
Is like if I was going to capitalize.
Speaker 1 (32:02):
Why Penn State has been right there but not able
to get over the top is they haven't had that
we superstar quarterback.
Speaker 8 (32:11):
We really got some good players out of the state
of Pennsylvania to come to Ohio State. Guys like John
Frank comes to mind. Well, Eddie, George Tom took us down.
Speaker 7 (32:24):
A benefit, he was a liability.
Speaker 9 (32:26):
And how many minutes did he play well?
Speaker 7 (32:29):
Three time All American, three time All American.
Speaker 8 (32:31):
Three times All American First Team nineteen minutes he was
a punter.
Speaker 6 (32:39):
Nineteen minutes including Bowl games minutes, Crazy team time way.
Speaker 1 (32:46):
Bill Coley's No Dying Enemy with everything you wanted to
know about Penn State and even more. We are back
with our final segment as we look at the Buckeyes
and Penn State after this on sixth to n WTV,
don't forget to join us Saturday Best Buckeye Coverage pregame
(33:06):
show live from Lane Avenue. We'll start at nine in
the morning. We take you up to the noon kickoff
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an early game, we'll be on after the game with
a postgame show until five o'clock. Matt McCoy, Bill Conley,
Roy Hall, Jeff Logan with you on bucks line last
couple of minutes, a couple from Twitter, and also emails
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and very sad thing that happened this week. This is
from Aaron. The Nick Mangold news was heartbreaking. Prayers to
his family. I have not heard does Ohio State have
any plans to honor him on Saturday? Aaron, I can
tell you that Ryan Day said there will be a
moment of silence. I know, Bill that you know hits
you hard, knowing Nick like you did. Just a great
(33:47):
buck guy who left his mark for sure at Ohio State.
Speaker 5 (33:50):
Yeah, great family, and I'll tell you what He'll be
really missed. And he's a guy that's just a great
leader by example, knowled just how play the game, but
how his the way he was respected by everybody.
Speaker 4 (34:04):
It's just a very special guy.
Speaker 2 (34:07):
Nick was a good dude man with same recruiting class.
Speaker 7 (34:10):
So you guys, you guys were saying recruiting.
Speaker 2 (34:13):
Yeah, so we got a chance to play play four
years together.
Speaker 6 (34:16):
And you know, just everything that you've read about him
has been absolutely awesome to hear his brothers come out
and say somethings, some positive things, but it just gives
you perspective, man, Like, whenever I see anyone pass away
for real, it just gives you a different perspective on life.
Speaker 2 (34:30):
But specifically when it's somebody your same age, you know
what I mean.
Speaker 6 (34:34):
Forty one is just so young, but he's been battling
for you know, ten plus years.
Speaker 8 (34:41):
Yeah, you tweeted something out today that was a very
positive message about keeping your head up.
Speaker 2 (34:47):
Yeah, share that.
Speaker 6 (34:49):
No, it's just just in life, man, Like, You've got
to figure out a way to keep walking tall man,
and keep your head up, and so many different things
in life is happening on a day to day basis
that can get you down, but you have to figure
out a way to be resilient persevered man.
Speaker 2 (35:06):
You absolutely got to walk through it. Man.
Speaker 1 (35:08):
One last thing too, Bob Meggs also another great Buckeye center,
all big ten when I was in school in the eighties,
also passed away.
Speaker 8 (35:15):
And the son's a member of this football team right now,
a walk on quarterback.
Speaker 1 (35:19):
Yes, they will all be remembered on Saturday, Bill Roy, Jeff,
thanks very much. We will be back with you Saturday
at nine in the morning, getting you ready for the
Buckeyes and Penn State. Join us then and talk to
you next week on bucks Line as well on their
home of the best Buckeye coverage six to ten WTV
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