Bucksline Hour 2 10-9-2025

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Our number two of bucks Line, Matt McCoy, Bill Conley,
Jeff Logan. We don't have Roy tonight. I mentioned it earlier.
There is a premiere of a documentary by last year's
championship season. It's called Redemption. Roy was a part of
the project. I think he's in the documentary and it's
about the faith part of football with Ohio State and

(00:21):
what they accomplished last year. So we'll get a review
on that next week. But don't have Roy tonight. But
Bill and Jeff are here and we're going to be
with you till eight o'clock and Bill's warming up in
the bullpen for a No Thine Enemy coming up at
seven thirty five. So I just got on Twitter just
seconds ago a tweet from Craig and I also had

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one earlier in the week from Joe about the same thing.
Craig question for bucks Line tonight, what do you guys
think of the trick play on special teams? Would you
have saved it for later in the year? And Joe
almost the identical question, how about that throwback pass on
the punt return? Special teams were special for ones. My
only question is should they have held that back for
a game that they may really need it, And that's

(01:04):
from Joe. So I don't think they necessarily hold stuff back.
I think they just do what they got to do.
And if it's open, here can I ask a question, Bill,
because you did special teams about this very play correct,
you can call it, but if the punt isn't I
mean they may have called this every week for all

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we know. But if the guy has good hangtime on
the punt and the guys are right in front of
it and you got a fair catch it, you can't
do it. Or if it's a crappy punt, you can't
do it. To me, it has to be the exact
right circumstances. So they may have called it another time.
They may have called it against Texas, but never had

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the opportunity. Do you see what I mean? How often
do you call stuff but you can't necessarily do it?

Speaker 2 (01:53):
Oh, you practice a lot of stuff and then't do
a lot of They'll do most of it, but you
said it circumstances and also who you're playing, Yeah, against
an elite team, you probably wouldn't even try that.

Speaker 3 (02:05):
So you don't think they had this in the bag
for Texas.

Speaker 2 (02:07):
And oh, they may have had it, but they were, well,
if you see anything off of it, you'll see got pump,
fake a the lateral and keep it. That's about all.
They'll come up with some other type of kind of
trick play. We were playing Michigan one time, and so
one of things we noticed in film that when teams
pulled one of their front return guys on the kickoff

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to like trap a guy uh to the other side
of the field, the guy who was coming one of
the safeties would follow the trapper. So we put in
a fake trap and that guy followed the trapper return
guy hit a straight up a scene touchdown problem for holding.

Speaker 3 (02:50):
Man, Yeah, bummer.

Speaker 1 (02:52):
But Jeff Former, if you.

Speaker 4 (02:54):
Really look at the the field on that play, I mean,
it has to be kicked to the right hash number
one because you're going to throw the ball back across
the field, all right, And the two things that really
had to happen is is and they executed this very
well as they had two blockers that were on the gunner,
the guy you know going down the field that would

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be directly in line with Brandon Innis, right, So they
were blocking that guy to give Brandon inn Is the
time to be able to release the football if it
was going to be there on the other.

Speaker 3 (03:29):
Side of what Lorenzo Styles.

Speaker 4 (03:34):
Lorenzo Styles had to do was he had to actually
hit his gunner a couple of times to slow him
down and at least make it look like he was
blocking before he released himself. Then you got to make
sure that it's a lateral you're throwing the ball backwards,
and when you do that, it's a live ball, so
you're bringing all kinds of things into play. And that's

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one of the reasons, gentlemen, why practice is not to
the public good point because the repetitions, the times that
they've practiced that are numerous, and I'm sure there's a
bunch of that stuff that they've got in their package
that we haven't seen.

Speaker 2 (04:11):
Yeah, probably one of the things they saw in film.
You know, oftentimes, whether it's kick or punt, your safeties
get to the hash marks. And they probably noticed when
a punt went left, the guy that was supposed to
be on the right hashmark probably cheated in some sure,
and they said, man, if we can get over to

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the guy and get outside that hash we have a chance.

Speaker 1 (04:34):
And it just so you think it was specific like
they saw something in Minnesota.

Speaker 3 (04:39):
This will work, sure, absolutely.

Speaker 1 (04:41):
So people saying, why don't they hold it back because
it may not this team it was going to work against.
It may not against Illinois or you know whomever. Maybe
something else will.

Speaker 4 (04:53):
And even if it only went for a five yard gain,
at least it's in the somebody's got to prepare for it.
They of the way, if they've got to know that
it's there.

Speaker 1 (05:02):
That's a good throw by Brandon Innis. By the way,
I didn't realize, but he was a high school quarterback.
So I love Bryan Day's comments about that. He says,
we really haven't talked much about him being a quarterback
before because we didn't want anybody to know that.

Speaker 3 (05:15):
You know, the coaches cat out of the bag. Now, man,
you guys, are you guys a run believable?

Speaker 4 (05:19):
By the way, in our news report there in our
break I found it interesting the update on the Division
one Administrative committee approving gambling for college athletes on pro sports.
All right now, it is illegal for for football staff
or athletic staff, I should say, and athletes to bet

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on any sports right now. But they have approved and
agreed and by the way, the the head of the
of that committee is a guy by name of Josh Whitman,
who is the Illinois Athletics director. But they decided that
it's it's really interesting here that they wanted to support

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the deregulation of this prohibition on sports wagering in professional sports.
They believe that the change represents a meaningful progress towards
a culture that prioritizes education, transparency, transparency, and support over punishment.
By removing these barriers, were hopeful that student athletes and
athletic administrators will feel empowered to come forward, seek help,

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and engage if they end up having a problem with
excessive gambling.

Speaker 3 (06:30):
So the problem with it now.

Speaker 4 (06:32):
Is is that if these college athletes want to bet
on pro sports, and keep in mind they're peers other
college students, it's on your phone, they're betting their rear
end off, and some of them are doing it with
little bits, and some of them are making a lot
of money. But what it does is because of that
peer pressure, it forces those guys to gamble underground, to

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really bury it. And if somebody has a problem, how
do they raise their hand in that instance? Right, So
they believe by allowing it to happen, it will be
more policeable. How do you how do you feel about that?

Speaker 2 (07:09):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (07:09):
Man, I'll tell you what I think.

Speaker 2 (07:10):
Anytime that a young person gambles at an early age,
maness sickness, you might not ever get over it.

Speaker 3 (07:18):
But all of a sudden, these athletes have money that
they didn't have.

Speaker 4 (07:21):
Before, right, Yeah, honest with you, they could have made
legalized gambling all they wanted to when I was there,
but how I was going to pay for it?

Speaker 1 (07:30):
Yeah, it absolutely worries me, to be honest with you,
and the whole you know, I'm I think I'm in
the minority the whole legalization of gambling over the last
few years.

Speaker 3 (07:42):
I just I'm not behind it.

Speaker 1 (07:46):
And I see some of the things that you know,
with threats being made to athletes because you didn't do
this and you didn't cover this. I mean, I think
we're headed for a lot of that. But you know,
I hope I'm wrong.

Speaker 4 (08:03):
Yeah, their policy, they believe, just that's in place now
that the discourage or or makes it illegal, discourages that
student athlete from seeking help if they should develop a
gambling problem.

Speaker 2 (08:14):
Yeah, that sounds good and that's the right thing to say,
But think about this by them saying that if a
kid now before this this rule had gambled, right, and
then they found out about you probably have to kick
it off the team or something like that. And now
the days of nil where you're shopping around the country,
you get the best players.

Speaker 4 (08:34):
Yeah, let me let me add one more thing on
it that they're considering, and they're going to vote on
in November, adding advertisement to game uniforms.

Speaker 3 (08:45):
Now, NASCAR today today, the.

Speaker 4 (08:50):
We have advertising, we have a Nike swish, we have
Michael Jordan's symbol up at Michigan's. You've got on the field,
you've got under armour, you've got stuff on the field.

Speaker 3 (09:01):
Are we going to look like Nascar?

Speaker 4 (09:03):
We're going to look like PGA tour players out there
with all kinds of stuff all over the uniform.

Speaker 3 (09:08):
Soccer.

Speaker 4 (09:09):
In soccer, you can ignore that that Nike swoosh is
there because it's their brand, their stuff.

Speaker 3 (09:15):
They're paid a lot of money for it.

Speaker 4 (09:16):
But what's the difference in a Nike swoosh being there
or Wendy's right.

Speaker 2 (09:21):
You're right, does it have to be a team?

Speaker 3 (09:27):
That's a good question.

Speaker 1 (09:27):
Can Jeremiah Smith, Can Jeremiah Smith go get a sponsors.

Speaker 4 (09:31):
I think, I think uniforms have to be uniform throughout
the team. So the answer the answer to that, I
think would it would have to be a uniform decision
that everybody would have to have the same things for
the same reason. Jeremiah Smith, who has an endorsement with Adidas,
can't wear those Adidas cleats during the Ohio State football
games because Ohio State is a Nike program.

Speaker 1 (09:53):
Speaking of Jeremiah Smith, I got a note. It's it's
a public relations note. Wanted to give you.

Speaker 3 (09:59):
A head up.

Speaker 1 (09:59):
Heads up about the unveiling of the first bobblehead of
Ohio State Buckeye star receiver Jeremiah Smith coming up Friday.
The bobblehead features the sophomore standout up to Ohios stay, win
the National Championship and as MP to a.

Speaker 3 (10:11):
Five and oh start.

Speaker 1 (10:13):
The release comes ahead of Ohio State showdown with Illinois.
The officially licensed limited edition bobblehead was produced by the
National Bobblehead Hall of Fame and Museum, an official licensee
of the Ohio State University. So that's something to look for.
Jeremi Smith bobblehead. Where is that museum? It's got to
be got an email for it.

Speaker 4 (10:35):
Be in one of the areas where Bill has done
known by an enemy. It's got to exist somewhere between
climax and I mean serious and morehead.

Speaker 3 (10:46):
Where is it? I it's not. I don't have it
listed on the email that I got. So I there's
a Bobblehead museum.

Speaker 2 (10:53):
It's between Boardwalk and park Place.

Speaker 3 (10:55):
I guarantee it's in some guy's basement.

Speaker 1 (10:57):
Yeah, potentially speaking of Jeremiah Smith. So we have a
and we've talked about this before. If you're listening, we
have a little group text that you know, we see stuff.
We send text to each other. I love it during
games when we're not together because we communicate. It's a
lot of fun.

Speaker 3 (11:15):
But always in.

Speaker 1 (11:17):
Milwaukee, Milwaukee, Wisconsin, Milwaukee, Wisconsin National. Zach just whispered in
my yud looks like it's in a bar.

Speaker 3 (11:23):
Yeah, I mean, give me a break, but wis.

Speaker 1 (11:28):
But Jeff, you know, after the game on Saturday, sent out.
It was going around social media and if any of
you are on social media, you may have seen the play.
But the touchdown passed. The long touchdown pass to carneal
Tate was set up by motion of they faked a
reverse to Jeremiah Smith, and Todd Blackledge did a great

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job on the telecast pointing out that literally five Minnesota defenders,
like three of them started, and then the two linemen
followed Jeremiah Smith and left the entire side of the
field one on one Carnel Tate. He made a double
move blue by the guy and Julian Saying to hit
him for a touchdown. Rick I had that play tweeted

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to me, and Rick comment to it was, is this
play with half the defense following Jeremiah Smith? Uh a bust?
Or does he really garner that much attention?

Speaker 3 (12:27):
So? Was that a defensive bust? Now that's option B,
option B. Okay, he garners that much attention. Yeah, there
was a hot dog vendor. They knew absolutely.

Speaker 1 (12:41):
They are going to leave Carnel Tate one on one
the entire side of the field and let's go for
a deep ball.

Speaker 4 (12:48):
The only guy that the Ohio State was targeting on
that play in order to get him to move. What's
the free safety in the middle of the field. All right,
and as long as is he came along here, that's
the read. As soon as Julian Saying came out of
the fake he's looking right down the field. He's not
looking at Carnel Tate at that point, He's looking at

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that free safety and that free safety had his eyes
as big as pies looking.

Speaker 3 (13:14):
For Jeremiah Smith.

Speaker 4 (13:15):
And even Ryan Day said on the sideline he had
to chuckle a little bit when he saw this play
developing because he knew we had him.

Speaker 3 (13:23):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (13:24):
Well, and also you know he outran that corner too.
I mean he was eight yards beyond him.

Speaker 3 (13:31):
You see the guy did the defender do a circle?

Speaker 4 (13:32):
I mean he he literally got turned inside out on
the play. And I'm going to suggest to you that
it had the safety even not followed Jeremiah Smith, that
this guy was beat so bad on that side that
he was still going to complete the past.

Speaker 2 (13:45):
The other thing he might have done was converted to
a corner route. Yeah, but he still was going.

Speaker 3 (13:48):
To go Pretty cool.

Speaker 1 (13:50):
I mean, the only thing I can say is even
if it was a bust, it still shows you the
attention that he gets. If somebody was not supposed to,
you know, was supposed to you know, covered that, if
that free safety was supposed to be over there and
help on that pass, just.

Speaker 3 (14:06):
He garners that much attention.

Speaker 1 (14:08):
So they are coached all week watch we are not
letting four beat us.

Speaker 4 (14:13):
And so remember the Notre Dame game last year when
Jeremiah Smith is out there, and they said that they
decided that if Jeremiah Smith has his left foot.

Speaker 3 (14:22):
Yeah, his left foot little detail.

Speaker 4 (14:24):
Instead of forward, that they're going to feel like he's
going to go ahead and take this reverse and come
this way because that's where it's set up to be.
So they knew he was going to fake going across
the formation and then release himself back into the flat.
And sure enough, Notre Dame bit and they're pointing to
him his foots back, his foots back. I mean, how

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do you know this stuff? I guess if you're getting
paid ten million dollars a year.

Speaker 3 (14:49):
You need you better know that stuff. But that's how
intricate this thing has become in Ohio State.

Speaker 1 (14:55):
By the way, if anybody saw that this is not
the third in Jeremiah play. This is the touchdown that
he got in the in the National Championship Game. But
Ohio State, Jeremiah Smith said against Texas, they were calling
out what they were going to do. So Ohio State
took that information. Texas detected it. Well, Notre Dame's going

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to know this too. Sure, let's cross them up. And
it worked out for a touchdown that fascinating on everybody.
I mean, Notre Dame did their right scouting, they did
Soda Texas, but Ohio State at a counter.

Speaker 3 (15:28):
I'd love to know who noodled.

Speaker 4 (15:29):
That, you know, whether it was a GA or an
analyst or Brian Hartline or somebody.

Speaker 3 (15:35):
That guy deserves a lot of credit. For sure.

Speaker 1 (15:39):
We're going to take a break and then we'll come
back for a short segment and then builds no dying
enemy at the bottom of the hour. Back after this
on six ten WTVN Buckeyes in Illinois. It is a
noon kick on Fox our best Buckeye coverage pregame show Saturday.
We'll start at nine in the morning, so join us.
And by the way, if you didn't see the game

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at Wisconsin a week from Saturday has been set for
a three point thirty kickoff, so that to mark your
calendar and figure that out, and then Ohio State will
have a buye and then the big one against Penn State.
Matt McCoy, Bill Conley, Jeff Logan with you. Bill's got
to know Dine enemy. In about ten minutes, our friend
Dennis sent this note. I'm one of the Buckeye fans

(16:22):
who was dead wrong about Matt Patricia. I thought that
was an awful higher but it's been the exact opposite.
The defense has been unbelievable. And what is even more
encouraging to me is to hear how the players talk
about him. I heard an interview with Sonny Styles and
also Caleb Downs talk about his incredible energy. My question is,
do you think Patricia can be a long term decoordinator

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here and by long term I mean three to four years,
like one full recruiting cycle, or do you think he's
going to head back to the NFL like Chip Kelly?
Thanks and go Bucks.

Speaker 3 (16:54):
And that's from Dennis Boy.

Speaker 4 (16:57):
I think the retention to him is a great question.
You know, I don't know what agreement he and Ryan
came up with about. Uh, you know, if you come here,
it's got to be for a couple of years or
whatever to.

Speaker 3 (17:06):
Do that get two year commitments at least.

Speaker 4 (17:09):
Yeah, and yeah, I think I think the success of
Matt Patricia coming here and of Chip Kelly coming here,
And I would also say Brian Hartline succeeding at the
level he has is because the high respect that these
players have for somebody that has done it in the league.
All Right, every one of them has that goal of

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playing in the league, and everyone of them thinks they're
going to be able to play in the league, in
the National Football League. And when you bring a guy
in that's got Super Bowl rings falling out of his pocket,
right yeah, and he stands up in front of the room,
he garners their attention like nobody else can. And I
think Chip Kelly brought the same kind of zip, you know,

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to that and attention to that. And I believe that
Brian Hartline, because of his career not only at Ohio State,
but what he did in the NFL, was able to
commit and you know.

Speaker 3 (18:01):
Talk the talk, but he could walk the walk as well.
And I think that goes a long way. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (18:06):
It's tough too when some team approaches you or an
owner approaches you, offers you a bowtlood of money even
though you have no intention maybe of even going there.
I mean, let's face, Ryan Day's going to be facing
the same thing. Winning this coach in college football, you know,
good and well, he's going to get offers. It has
got offers.

Speaker 1 (18:24):
I mean, there's a long way to go, a long
way to go. But if Ohio State were to pull
this off and go back to back, I gotta believe that,
you know what I'm saying, too bad teams would be
interested in the National Football League.

Speaker 4 (18:36):
And whether it's this year or he wins two or
three in the next five years, however that all comes together.
And I don't see Ryan Day ever leaving for another
college job, right, I mean, there's not a I can't
imagine there's a college job out there. He's from the
East coach.

Speaker 3 (18:51):
He wouldn't go back to Boston College and coach there.
I mean, he has no interest in doing that. But
we're go south. He would go to Alabama?

Speaker 4 (18:57):
No, no, it doesn't fit. But would you go to
the NF Well, yeah, maybe. But on the other hand,
he will have made enough money that he doesn't have
to go work anywhere if he chooses not to. But
who in their right mind? And Matt Patricia has not
been through recruiting and ni L and transfer portal and

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everything else that is making up college football. I think
that's the thing that rand Chip Kelly back in the
NFL el pronto.

Speaker 3 (19:25):
Yeah, was I just want to coach ball. The reality
of what is required of that position. Uh.

Speaker 4 (19:32):
And Bill, you headed up recruiting for all those years.
You can't have a coach. That's just a coach.

Speaker 3 (19:37):
No, everybody's got everybody's got to row the boat.

Speaker 2 (19:40):
Everybody's got to roll that boat. But right, you got
me sure there's no holes in that boat. Yeah, you
to be able to carry your weight. Belts is out
there trying to get players, and there's you know, some
coaches aren't as good as other coaches.

Speaker 3 (19:52):
I'm sure.

Speaker 2 (19:52):
Yeah, one thing for sure, Ryan Day, you better be
a good recruiter too.

Speaker 3 (19:56):
For sure.

Speaker 1 (19:57):
The conversation all box Line will continue as we turn
it over to Bill Common after the bottom of the hour.
Know thine enemy, fun facts about Illinois. I'm sure the
Illa Buck will be mentioned. It's all coming up on
bucks Line on six to ten WTVN. Welcome back to
bucks Line the Buckeyes in Illinois with a noon kick Saturday.

Speaker 3 (20:19):
It is on Fox.

Speaker 1 (20:21):
We've got the best Buckeye coverage pregame show coming your way,
starting bright and early at nine in the morning. We
also will be back after the game too, so if
you'd like to react to it. We'll have Ryan Days comments.
We'll be on till five o'clock after the game, and
then the Buckeyes will be heading to Madison, Wisconsin, then
a bye week, and then Penn State comes to town.

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So key stretch of the season here coming up for
the Buckeyes here as they try to maintain their number
one ranking. The Illinois fighting a LINEI a team that
the Buckeyes haven't played very much lately, so we have
not heard the last few years a know thine enemy
on Illinois, But darn it, we get one tonight. Bill Conley,

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who actually came to the station. This is how dedicated
this guy is. Came to the station, looked, he forgot
his know thine enemy notes, got in his car, ran home,
came back, got here just in time for the show.
So these are golden notes that Bill had to make
two trips to get.

Speaker 2 (21:23):
It's called dedication.

Speaker 3 (21:24):
It is dedication in.

Speaker 2 (21:25):
A short memory.

Speaker 4 (21:27):
I saw the police escort out there. I thought I
thought you were being arrested. I didn't know you were
being escort.

Speaker 1 (21:32):
Yeah, it could know thine enemy, Bill Conley, take it away,
all right?

Speaker 2 (21:36):
The line I I'll tell you what I me and
you talked about this, Matt that next two the team
up north. It's the team and the big team we
have played the most in history.

Speaker 1 (21:50):
I would never have guessed that because recently they haven't
played him very much.

Speaker 3 (21:54):
That is interesting.

Speaker 2 (21:55):
Okay, I'm gonna tell you something nobody knows. You guys
don't know people at home. I sure don't know where
is Illinois located, University Illinois, Champagne or exactly Champagne. Why
do they call it Champagne.

Speaker 3 (22:11):
I don't know. That's the thing. We don't know.

Speaker 2 (22:16):
That's the French. Yes, that means level flat land, but
they didn't name it from France. Probably that's where they
make Champagne over in France. After Champagne County, Ohio. If
you've ever been in Barbana, that's in Champagne County. And
there was one of the founders of the town. They said,

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it looks just like the land over in Champagne County, Ohio. Boom, Champagne, Illinois. Wow,
there's the Ohio connection right there. How about that? Hey,
colors are orange and blue. That's kind of a different
color all that. But this weekend they're having an orange out.

Speaker 3 (22:55):
Oh man, it'll be ugly. My goodness.

Speaker 2 (22:58):
I mean it's called a halloween too. The Punkins pumpkins
exactly all right. Now. Their fight song is interesting. Their
fight song is oski wah wah okay oscar wa wah
was an Algonquin Indian term. Okay h educate you guys again,
that's very good and that's their fight song. It is

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easy to have little riddles and stuff with it, but
it nobody knows for sure how I got how I
got started. But rumor has it, legend has it that
back into the Old West, when Indians were coming over
the hill, attack the wagon trains, oscar wa wah that
they knew that was a war cry, and the Indians

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were coming, and the people in the wagons circle the wagons,
circle of wagons. That is why in football, as a coach,
the term osky means interception. Right, yes, And here's the key.
When the ball is intercept did circle the wagons? This

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is true. And what he said, my guy, when you
hear oscy, you better fly yourself over the football so
you can get a block for the guide intercepts it.

Speaker 3 (24:09):
There you go. That is very interesting.

Speaker 4 (24:11):
This is one of the few things that I know
for sure he is not made up.

Speaker 2 (24:17):
Thank you.

Speaker 1 (24:17):
That is so good for people that don't know when
there's an interception, you yell osky. Yes, yeah, so that
because people don't have their eyes on it.

Speaker 3 (24:25):
I thought it was some dude named Oscar.

Speaker 1 (24:29):
Oscar all ties back to Illinois.

Speaker 2 (24:32):
Okay. The mascot, I mean this is this is wrong.

Speaker 3 (24:35):
I'm telling you right now.

Speaker 2 (24:36):
This is wrong. The official mascot is the building Kingfisher.
What the building Kingfisher. It's a dagon bird.

Speaker 3 (24:45):
I didn't know that.

Speaker 2 (24:46):
Yes, this is blue with a little orange on it too.

Speaker 3 (24:49):
They used to have the Chief I know.

Speaker 2 (24:51):
That's why I'm mad. That's why I'm mad. You get
me going now, Matt. It replaced Chief Elina Wick. Okay, yes,
that is that's wrong.

Speaker 3 (25:02):
He went out with Chief Wahoo.

Speaker 2 (25:04):
Yes, that's exactly right, exactly Washington dress up and do
the war dance and stuff like that. Yep, that's it's
bad that that uh Illini wak Yes, bet they are men.

Speaker 3 (25:19):
They are men.

Speaker 2 (25:19):
Oh big war dance, Get ready for a game? Me
dance like Chief. No, don't do no more. No, I
fly like a bird. It's terrible, it's terrible.

Speaker 3 (25:30):
Al right, you want to say that one more time.

Speaker 2 (25:32):
Nou the nickname of course they now this was amazing.
They go and do what an egg on chief, But
they're still called the fighting Alna.

Speaker 3 (25:41):
They are man doesn't make sense.

Speaker 2 (25:44):
They're very fickle over there. And yeah, they've had five
national championships, so most of a long time ago fifteen
Big ten titles. They were a good program, very good program.
The rivals Northwestern Yes, okay, now they used to have
the Sweet Sue Tomahawk Trophy. Yes, the Sweet Sue s

(26:06):
i ou ex Tomahawk Trophy with no with the Northwestern
north and there was copied after a tomahawk that was
on a cigar store Indian and so they had a
tomahawk and then finally they lost that or something like that.
So anyway, they changed it to the Land of Lincoln
and now it says a little trophy with a stove

(26:29):
pipad on it. Purdue the famous Purdue cannon. The Purdue cannon.
That's it goes all the way back nineteen oh five.
These students from Purdue going over to the game Champagne,
they brought a cannon I tell five and they plan
on set it off every time they scored. Trouble is

(26:50):
Illinois found out about students from Illinois. They stole a cannon.
They stolen cannon. It was not found till some fourty
years later in a farmhouse and they brought it back.
Was but then it was started, you know, not working
because it's all old.

Speaker 3 (27:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (27:09):
So now it's a little fake cannon in the trophy.

Speaker 3 (27:13):
Yeah, it's very ugly.

Speaker 1 (27:15):
They won that last week, by the way, because that's
who ill just beat.

Speaker 3 (27:18):
It's pretty.

Speaker 2 (27:18):
And then we got to talk about house Sate. Yes,
the Ellie Buck and as Mike Elliott we talked about
on the TV or radio the other day. Uh, that's
the only trophy we have with another team, the Ellie Buck.
Now we got kind of trophy when we beat the
team up north. We got those gold pants. That's our
own trophy though there's no team trophy. But the Ellie
Buck started to cutting. Students started that deal. They had

(27:41):
a live turtle and that was that was a trophy.
And that started again. Uh back in nineteen twenty five
and they had this thing and you know Illinois won.

Speaker 3 (27:52):
The first game.

Speaker 2 (27:53):
That's bad. You know what, they took it home to Champagne.
They put it on the cold and died. Turtle is
supposed to live a long time.

Speaker 3 (28:04):
No, turtle's you.

Speaker 2 (28:08):
Terribly Yeah, and it died after one year.

Speaker 3 (28:12):
Now.

Speaker 2 (28:12):
The amazing thing in that game that I'll say lost,
there's a guy that intercepted the pass. Let's play the game,
Red Gaine the Galloping Ghosts. How about that never won
the high school I was won a round yet, all right,
But anyway, it's Elli Buck and so they present the
thing and the team that wins gets to keep it
for a year and stuff like that. So anyway, that's

(28:33):
the Illy Bucks. So we're playing for the Eli Buck
this week.

Speaker 3 (28:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (28:36):
Ryan Day got asked by Clay Hall if he's ever
seen the Illabuck and he said, I actually got to
hold it in twenty seventeen, last time that they played it,
in his first year there, so he was familiar with
the Illabuck trophy.

Speaker 3 (28:47):
I don't know that that's been several now.

Speaker 1 (28:49):
I don't know that that's a big rallying cry for
him this week, but he at least knows about it.

Speaker 2 (28:53):
No, they put the score on the back of the
fake turtle and all that stuff they want to hanging
over in the student union by the way all right.
Famous players that've played for him, they had some good ones.
How about besides Ray Grange obviously, Dick Buckus, Oh yeah,
Ray Nitchke, two of the great linebackers in NFL history.
How about this one, George Hallis was an end for him. Wow,

(29:13):
office and defensive end Pama bet Yeah, exactly right. Doug Deacon,
famous offensive tackle. How about Sam and Rice.

Speaker 1 (29:23):
Dominating the nineties trouble beating Illinois.

Speaker 3 (29:26):
He was a headache.

Speaker 2 (29:28):
And some coaches obviously good coach. They have too many
coaches to mention. But Robert Zubkey was there for twenty
nine years, won three national championships. That's back in the
twenties and stuff. Ray Elliott was there seventeen years, won
a national championship. But also some Ohio connections. Ron Zuck, Yeah,
the coach here.

Speaker 1 (29:44):
He was the coach in two thousand and seven when
they came here in beat ohist, You.

Speaker 3 (29:47):
Are exactly right, yep?

Speaker 2 (29:49):
And are we loved? Lovey Smith.

Speaker 3 (29:52):
That's right there. I forgot about quite get it done,
but love you good guy. Yep.

Speaker 2 (29:56):
Hey, how about Roy's food truck. Roy's not here, so
this is his honor.

Speaker 3 (30:00):
Okay, So we have to make sure we record this
One's that? All right?

Speaker 2 (30:03):
They have something called the rainbow cone. Now, the rainbow
cone is an ice cream cone. But you know what,
it's not in dips. They don't do it in dips.
They do it in slices. They and they put these
slices on top of a cone. All right, the rainbow cone.
But here are the flavors chocolate, strawberry, pistachio, orange, sherbet, cherry, walnut,

(30:26):
all slices, booms, stack them up.

Speaker 3 (30:28):
Wow, how about that? I'll pass? Okay, me too.

Speaker 2 (30:32):
The horseshoe sandwich. The horseshoe is an open face sandwich
and it was named horseshoe because ham was the main
meat is used. Now they use all kinds of difference.
But you know how when hams on a bonus kind
of take it off, it's kind of like a horseshoe.

Speaker 3 (30:45):
All right, then that for Thanksgiving horseshoe sandwich. There you go.

Speaker 2 (30:48):
There are two pieces of Texas toast. I'm sure that
that Roy would really like this, creamy cheese, sauce, horseradish,
big piece of ham, horseshoes ham, and also French fries
on top.

Speaker 3 (31:05):
Wow, I would have it with.

Speaker 1 (31:07):
But I'm not a horse Radish guy.

Speaker 2 (31:09):
I would have to hold the horse rat hold the
horse reds all right. They have some crazy cities over
there in Illinois.

Speaker 3 (31:15):
I can only imagine Goofy Ridge.

Speaker 2 (31:18):
Now, you know who spent a lot of time in
his young days at Goofy Ridge right in that area,
Abraham Lincoln exactly, really absolutely, because he was a surveyor
did you.

Speaker 3 (31:27):
Know that or did you just throw his name out?
I'm just smart.

Speaker 2 (31:32):
Goofy Ridge. It's by a town called Havana and they
surveyed it all the time. Okay, muddy, muddy buddy Illinois, Illinois.
Chicken bristle. Everybody goes chicken bristle, all right? How about moonshine, Oblong, Oblong, Illinois.

Speaker 3 (31:52):
That's a good one, okay.

Speaker 2 (31:53):
And one just for you golf golf golf, ill Yes.

Speaker 3 (31:58):
I imagine they have a course there. I would think maybe
one one. Yeah, okay, low get some laws.

Speaker 2 (32:04):
You can't give your pet dog a cigar, don't you dare?

Speaker 3 (32:08):
Okay, not allow to smoke cigar? Yeah nope.

Speaker 2 (32:11):
It's illegal to eating a restaurant that's on fire. And
I think that's a good law. So obviously that means
sometime in the past a restaurant call him fire and
so did the people.

Speaker 3 (32:21):
Honey, what if you want it well done?

Speaker 2 (32:25):
Well or charm world?

Speaker 3 (32:26):
Yes, there you go.

Speaker 2 (32:28):
All right, a bachelor. How about this man? A bachelor
must be called master by females, not mister. You got
to call him masters. Well, anyway, things have changed, all right.
You can't stick your tongue out of the dog, don't
you dare? Not only they wash your mouth out right.

(32:51):
You can't go fishing in pajamas, all right.

Speaker 3 (32:55):
Now.

Speaker 2 (32:56):
You also can't go fishing while you're writing a giraffe.

Speaker 3 (33:00):
There you go in the state of Illinois.

Speaker 2 (33:02):
In the state of Illinois, stright down, like, make sure
you have a long fishing party.

Speaker 1 (33:06):
I was going to say you would need a long
pool to do that.

Speaker 2 (33:08):
Yeah, and this is really a good one here. You
can't have intercourse while you're hunting.

Speaker 3 (33:16):
Hunting what.

Speaker 2 (33:18):
Whether great? Your gun might go off? There we go,
all right, I'm gon gave you three events that happened
in Illinois history. Okay, First of all, the poop gate
in two thousand and four. The poop gate.

Speaker 3 (33:33):
What is the poop gate?

Speaker 2 (33:34):
Dave Matthews band, Yes, across the Chicago River and it's
kind of middle of the night type of thing, and
decided they want to dump the load from the bus.
The trouble was there was a taurust boat underneath on
the river. He ended up paying them thousands of dollars
to the poor people that got you know, got stuff

(33:56):
all over them.

Speaker 3 (33:56):
I remember that, yes, wow, all right.

Speaker 2 (33:59):
And eighteen ninety two, a Frenchman emmigrant came to the country,
got a job at the Leland Hotel. Fell in Love
eighteen ninet two, with ice cream. Fell in Love, asked
all he ate for five days straight, we died. He

(34:20):
did the autopsy. Obviously autopsis runs good back then, is
right now? They said he died of a frozen stomach.
Died of a frozen stomach, all right? Okay. A guy
named Mickey Finn owned the bar. And when you go
to a bar in the early days nineteen hundreds, they
would give you a bowl of soup.

Speaker 3 (34:39):
That's very common, all right.

Speaker 2 (34:42):
So some guys tipped better than other guys, and finally
it had enough, so when the poor tippers came in,
he puts some stuff in his in their soup to
make him pass out, and then he hit a rob them.

Speaker 4 (35:01):
And that and that is increase the tips.

Speaker 2 (35:05):
Oh well, here's what they found out. Three of those
people end up dying.

Speaker 3 (35:10):
So Mickey get in some trouble. But ever since then,
is that the term slipping? Slipping?

Speaker 2 (35:16):
Mickey slip a lot the days of al Capone, who
is spent a lot of time in Chicago. Wow, there
you go, a little history on the Ali.

Speaker 3 (35:25):
Very good, Bill Connley, know thine enemy? That was?

Speaker 1 (35:28):
That was outstanding. I'm still trying to picture the autopsy.
A guy with a frozen.

Speaker 2 (35:32):
Stuff had to take a chisel.

Speaker 3 (35:34):
I guess. So this game is all about a turtle.

Speaker 4 (35:37):
Yes, I mean when it all comes down to it
with Ohio statetle and most men that I know are
not all that proud of turtling. No, not at all, right,
but it's okay to go.

Speaker 3 (35:49):
Win the turtle. Yeah, you can win turtle without turtling.

Speaker 2 (35:53):
That's the ideal situation.

Speaker 1 (35:54):
Okay, Well, let's hope that the Buckeyes come back with
the wooden turtle. Bill Conley, know thine enemy on finding
a line. I'll try to get to a few of
your tweets and emails when we come back. Before we
wrap up the show, bus Line continues after this on
six to ten wtv N. Matt McCoy, Bill Conley, Jeff
Logan back with you. Final segment of bucks Line again.

(36:16):
Ohio State Illinois a noonkick Saturday. We're on with the
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Thanks for everybody for emailing during the week. You can
always do that if you see something, you're in the
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Speaker 3 (36:33):
I'm gonna get.

Speaker 1 (36:34):
To a few of those or tweet at me at
Matt McCoy Radio, and we'll get to as many as
we can on bucks Line. From Kim. With Penn State
looting to UCLA, is there any chance Fox would drop
the Buckeye Nitney lyon game rather out of the big
noon slot. I would still like to see that game

(36:54):
under the lights, Kim. I don't think so. I think
that's still it's.

Speaker 3 (37:00):
Still two big brands.

Speaker 1 (37:01):
Penn State's still good and is a threat to Ohio
State and o Isaota's number one in the country. I
don't think there's any way they're dropping. They're not going
to take that game.

Speaker 4 (37:08):
The only way that would happen is Penn State lost
again between now and then loose to Northwestern. I change,
and then who do they have after Northwestern?

Speaker 3 (37:17):
I don't even know.

Speaker 1 (37:17):
Yeah, they both teams, by the way, have a bye
the week before that game, so they play this weekend
next week and then have a bye.

Speaker 2 (37:24):
So you other think Ohio State and he really PennState
to a degree turn a law of televisions.

Speaker 1 (37:28):
For sure, no doubt about it. From Phil Matt Three
quick ones for the panel. How long does Ohio? How
long does Ryan Day coach at Ohio State? Would he
leave soon to follow his son play college ball?

Speaker 3 (37:41):
Two?

Speaker 1 (37:41):
What are your thoughts on Brett Beelima as a coach?
And three? Indiana at Oregon?

Speaker 3 (37:46):
Who you got? That's from Phil.

Speaker 1 (37:49):
We talked about Bilama earlier that obviously does a very
good job and does a nice job. Does Ryan days?
Does RJ going to college affect Ryan Days? How long
he coaches?

Speaker 3 (38:01):
I don't think so good call, No, I don't think it.

Speaker 4 (38:05):
Does you know if he if his son excels at
a you know, someplace or gets someplace and then transfers
to a to a bigger program, maybe he picks it
up and goes, I like Oregon to smoke Indiana.

Speaker 2 (38:18):
Hey, were you stuck with Oregon against Penn State. Let's
stick with him again. I think Oregon to win.

Speaker 1 (38:23):
I do think Indiana's good. I do think Indiana, looking
at their schedule, should be a playoff team. But I
don't think they go to Oregon and win.

Speaker 3 (38:31):
Give me Michigan USC. I think I'm gonna take USC.
It's at USC.

Speaker 2 (38:38):
You know I'm gonna go USC.

Speaker 3 (38:39):
Also, I got the stinkers you on Michigan. All right?

Speaker 1 (38:43):
Uh, we'll be back with you coming up on Saturday again.
Best Buck Eye coverage pregame show starts at nine in
the morning. Talk to you then on six' TEN wtv