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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Covering Ohio State football and obviously about this game coming
up today as the buck Eyes take on the Huskies
and try to snap a twenty two game Washington home
winning streak. The black Eyes are favored by seven and
a half points, but that line bill started at like
twice that when it first opened, So that tells you
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all the public money is on Washington and a lot
of people feel like they're a really good, underestimated team.
I guess we'll find out in about three hours or so.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Yeah, they probably looked at the intangibles in this game,
probably as they look.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
At a new quarterback.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
One to a rough environment could be, you know, advantage
Washington a little bit.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
But to drop that much.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
People really maybe you're just really watching Washington's films and
they're pretty good football team.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
Yeah, and they do have some players, Jeff, Yeah, I
just think the intrigue of Ohio State traveling out there
is the number one and the momentum.
Speaker 4 (01:00):
You know, Washington goes into this game with absolutely nothing
to lose for sure, all right, you know, they have
a lot of confidence. They love this new coach. They
play for him. From a quarterback who has the ability
to extend plays and you know the guys. I want
to simplify this and tell everybody to turn off your
radio and go watch TV later tonight.
Speaker 5 (01:20):
I want you to listen to the whole show.
Speaker 4 (01:22):
But the magic of this game is going to come
down to Ohio State's defense being able to get off
the field. Washington is leading the country in third down conversions.
That means they their biggest problem is defense. The best
thing they can do is not have their defense on
the field, and they do that by controlling the football offensively.
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Their weakness is defense for sure. So keep those guys
in the locker room. Basically, don't let them get on
the field. Continue to possess the ball.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
Their highest rated and if you believe you know the
scouts and the early, very early NFL draft projections, their
highest rated defensive players, their defensive back to carry O Davis.
News this morning from Pete Thamil, who is ESPN's college
football reporter and covers the Big Ten closely, that he
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is now doubtful to play in this game. He didn't
play last week to Carry O Davis because of rib
and leg injury, but they said he was questionable and
I think during the week people thought, you know, player
that good against Ohio State. He's going to play, but
he's doubtful, and that would certainly be a blow to Washington.
They also their leading tackle linebacker got hurt last.
Speaker 6 (02:34):
Week, so he's out.
Speaker 5 (02:36):
To lose two of.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
Their best defensive players against Ohio State is obviously a blow.
But Bill, you got to go out there and take
advantage of it if you're Ohio State.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
Oh, exactly right, Jeff, hit the nail on the head.
I mean, they want to keep their offense on the
field and key buyers off the field. What we have
to be able to do is use all aspects of
our offensive football team.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
We have to be able to run the ball.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
We have to be able then to hit our players,
you know, our great receivers on explosive place.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
Yeah, that's what we can do against their defense.
Speaker 6 (03:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
I think one of the reasons too, Jeff, you talk
about the long road trip that Ohio State. We've seen
the line shrink since twenty twenty four. The record for
Big Ten teams traveling to the West coast, so leaving
the Eastern time zone and going west three and eleven
straight up, and Ohio State had one of those trips
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last year and is one of the eleven. They lost
by a point to Oregon. So it's long road trip.
And Ryan Day changed up a little bit this year
and left Thursday, and they spent the entire day yesterday
their best footballs and Fridays they spent in Seattle. So
we'll see if that makes a difference. You can't ignore
the number.
Speaker 4 (03:46):
I mean, it's early in this big ten expansion, and
you know, will the teams east of the Mississippi or
anybody that's not on the West coast be able to
figure out you know what the magic is there? You know,
part of it is is that the West coast teams
have been fairly decent. Will you take USC, Washington and Oregon.
Speaker 6 (04:05):
No doubt about it. That has a lot to do.
Speaker 4 (04:07):
You can't mix UCLA in there. They're you know, of
the three wins, it's probably all against UCLA.
Speaker 5 (04:12):
I don't know what the numbers.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
Are, but I remember Indiana last year, earlier in the
year when we started figuring out Indiana was good, went
there and.
Speaker 6 (04:19):
Beat UCLA like a drum. So that's one of the three.
Speaker 4 (04:22):
But three of the four are pretty decent football peers,
to say the very least.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
Yep Yep, no doubt about it. I found it interesting.
By the way, duvetailing off of that is the big
game of the Big Ten today is tonight. It's the
Penn State Oregon game. And Dan Lanning is an excellent coach.
And by the way, I don't know there's times where
he's rubbed me wrong, but I saw his interview at
Big Ten Meet these days very very complementary of Ohio
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State and Ryan Day and the program that he runs.
But nonetheless, he talked this week about and whining about
the amount of travel that Oregon has this year and
starting with the Penn's Day game, and didn't do it
any favors on I get it. I'm not saying that
that's not a valid complaint bill, But.
Speaker 5 (05:05):
You guys joined the Big Ten, you were in the
PAC twelve.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
You could have stayed in the Pac twelve and kept
that conference alive and then you wouldn't have all this travel.
To me, you signed up for this, you know what
I mean. You're gonna have to make long road trips
if you're gonna be in the Big Ten where most
of the teams are in the Midwest.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
Yeah, I'm not sure Dan Lanning signed up for him.
Speaker 6 (05:27):
But that's true too.
Speaker 5 (05:29):
I guess you should.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
Take it up with his president and his athletic director exactly.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
But yeah, we did really get the cream of the
crop when talks about the best players in that conference
come to the Big Ten, which makes it tougher and
tougher every year. But you know, road trips are get
to you see anymore because but you're playing all around
the country anymore, and you play play all you play anywhere,
and you just got to.
Speaker 3 (05:51):
Be able to handle it.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
I know the one thing, we cannot be sleepy in Seattle.
Speaker 6 (05:56):
No, that's exactly.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
No.
Speaker 3 (05:58):
We gotta come out ready to play.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
Yeah, and they talk about it being one of the
noisiest stadiums Jeff, and you know Ohio State's going to
find out about it. But Ryan Day said, we can't
let the environment dictate how we play. It's in one way,
automatically it is because you know, they've been working on
a silent counts, which you wouldn't ordinarily do. But who
who does that put the most stress on the offensive line?
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Is that when you're working on a silent count?
Speaker 6 (06:25):
Is it? You know Julian saying, how does that affect
your off?
Speaker 4 (06:29):
You know, I think it's communicating to that offensive line
more so than anything else. If you think of just
distance between those guys and other receivers, they can all
hand signal everything, but the offensive line is getting up
there and they're looking downfield.
Speaker 5 (06:42):
The receivers have can.
Speaker 4 (06:43):
Look back to that quarterback and get a pretty good
idea what's going on. So Julian saying has got to
have a really good system in place to be able
to communicate with that offensive line, especially when he has
to change things at the line of scrimmage and change
the protections that are there. And that's a big part
of that job. You were talking about those stats, and
Matt I looked up real quickly, how about the West
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Coast guys having to go two or more time zones
the other way? Last year there was a seven and
eight record for West Coast teams requiring travel across two
or more time zones and and overall across the entire
conference teams that traveled two or more time zones either way,
we're ten and nineteen.
Speaker 5 (07:24):
Wow, So travel is an issue.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
Yeah, Well, road games are supposed to be hard, but home.
Speaker 4 (07:30):
Game, yeah, there is a home field advantage in the
Big Ten Conference.
Speaker 5 (07:32):
Yes, let's face it.
Speaker 4 (07:33):
Yeah, even a place like Indiana today all of a
sudden has become a place where it's hard to play.
Usually it was like a scrimmage, no big deal. Yeah,
we we owned the entire stadium with Ohio State fans.
That's not necessarily the case anymore.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
Yeah, true, Bill, you talked about it on Thursday with
you Know, No Vine Enemy, and we outlined it the
Washington program that very story. Addition, a lot of ties
to Ohio. Their rivals are Washington State and Oregon. But
Jed Fish, they're head coach, this week, said this could
be our biggest game of the year. And to me,
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that's like the power of Ohio State. When you're Ohio
State and you go on the road your team's biggest
game of the year, you've all you know, everybody's giving
you your best shot. So they have their rivalry games
that are still coming up. But I just found it
interesting that he's this could be our biggest game of
the year.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
Well that's the way.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
Also, you know he uses that to psych his players
up to that's really telling him, hey, you got to
be ready to play too, come out and get after it.
I think that's so important is who scores in this
game first could be crucial because if you turn over
the ball and you're side of the fifty either team
and the other team scores, then all of a sudden,
you might set You know, the momentum is gonna be
tough to turn around.
Speaker 5 (08:50):
Now you know your point is exactly right.
Speaker 4 (08:52):
I mean, you want to take control of the stadium
as quickly as you possibly can, and you know it's
it's not going to go silent there, but at least
you have some control. I think back to the Ohio
State Penn State game a year ago. What we got
down fourteen nothing in that game?
Speaker 6 (09:05):
Yeah, pick six early on on the road.
Speaker 4 (09:08):
Granted it wasn't a white out, but that was a
very difficult place to play. And I think the experience
that the players have that are returning that are on
this team and they're not all there obviously that a
lot of them are in the NFL, but those guys
that played at Penn State and played at Oregon have
something to rely upon as far as experience is concerned.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
Yeah, is there anything you can tell of Julian saying
before a game like.
Speaker 6 (09:34):
This to prepare him for it?
Speaker 1 (09:36):
Or does he just have to You know, if you're
Ryan Day in his year talking about what to expect
and you know, handling the situation, what's the message.
Speaker 4 (09:44):
Leave him alone, don't over coach him like Keigan Bradley
has done to ruin the United States team in the
Ryder Cup. Give him a break. These guys are professionals.
These guys, I'm not a Ryder Cup. One thing, These
are accomplished young athlete and understand experience. They have put
all the mental part in it that they possibly can.
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They've viewed all the tape, they've seen all the video,
they've gone through all the meetings. Go out there and
be yourself. Just just go out there and be yourself.
Don't feel like you have to win this thing. Just
go out there and play and rely upon the assets
that are around you.
Speaker 5 (10:22):
Don't be like Keigan Bradley.
Speaker 3 (10:25):
One putt at a time, I mean one play at
a time.
Speaker 5 (10:27):
Oh my goodness.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
Well, one thing, you know Julian's saying before the opener
against Texas, the big storyline was nineteen straight first time
starting quarterbacks have lost against number one ranked teams.
Speaker 6 (10:42):
You know, well, he broke that streak.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
Now he's got a chance to break its twenty two
game home winning streak as well, So that could be
a notch in his resume going into this thing. But
what are your expectations Bill for Julian saying in today's game, I.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
Think a lot of his coaching staff, the game plan.
I mean, again, like the game against Texas. Don't ask
him to do the impossible early in the game. Let
him get comfortable, you know, giving plays that are a
high chance of success, and if you get a chance
then to go deep on deep boss, fine, but let
him be comfortable.
Speaker 3 (11:16):
Don't ask him to do tough things early.
Speaker 4 (11:18):
When you look at Ryan Day's schedule since he's been
the head football coach on true road games, not including
those neutral site bowl games and that sort of thing,
you're twenty three and three now, two of those losses
are against team up North, and one of those losses
is against Oregon, right yep, So I think that comprises
all three of those road losses. And so they have
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been able to you know, dominate going anywhere else in
the conference. Yet they've not been to Washington under Ryan
Day's leadership at this point as a true road game. Now,
they did play him in the Rose Bowl, and Ryan
Day was part of that last staff if you will,
for Urban Meyer, but this is a first go.
Speaker 5 (11:59):
Or for Ryan Day as well.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
I'm gonna ask a stupid question here, and I say
that it's a stupid question because I can recall you
guys know, I covered basketball for a lot of years
and really admire that Mota and Michigan State in the
I don't know what year was, twenty.
Speaker 6 (12:15):
Ten, eleven, twelve.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
Michigan State's always good, but they were coming in here.
It was a really big game and they had I
think like an eleven game road winning street going. They
hadn't lost on the road at all that particular year,
and we asked coach Model what makes them? Somebody asked
him what makes them a good road team? And he
just looked at us and he goes, they're good, Like
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they have really good players. You could play them on
Mars and they're gonna be hard to beat. So that's
why I say this is a dumb question. But that record,
Jeff you gave, which means a lot we're good. Yeah,
it means that Ohio State's a good team. But what
is the how?
Speaker 5 (12:52):
What makes a good road team?
Speaker 1 (12:54):
Author than the obvious that bad Mota would point out
they're really really good players.
Speaker 4 (12:58):
Yeah, it's kind of hard to explain, but it's a
level of confidence that is created by this thing they
refer to as the brotherhood, meaning they've got each other's back.
Speaker 5 (13:10):
And you can't create that culture.
Speaker 4 (13:14):
You can talk about it all you want in every
football program in the country is talking about culture, but
there are literally teams that don't like each other, you know,
that are on the team and coach. You've had different teams,
different personalities that have been better than others in terms
of really having each other's back and being part of it.
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And I think one of the things that Ryan Day
has been able to do with his coaching staff is
create that culture. And it's not just the words. It's
something that is born into these guys. And again it's overused,
but I don't think you can ignore it at Ohio
State that they have something that's real.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
Yeah, And I think the other thing which makes Ohow
to stay good very rarely we have a defense that
gives up big plays. I mean, most teams have to
work for whatever they get against us. And this statistical fact,
the longer you have ball on offense is a chance
is gonna be mistake made. Somewhere along the way. It
could be dropping a ball, dropping a pass, something like that.
Speaker 4 (14:15):
You know, I think a good comparison to this, and
not to just pick on Penn State, but I would
say over the last six or seven years, Penn State
athletically has been equal to or very close to Ohio
State in every game that they've played. Agreed, Yes, think
about the experience that they've had a quarterback, some of
the great defensive players that they've had, some of the
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running backs. Now you can argue they didn't have the
speed at wide receiver. That's one thing. But the difference
them not being able to win in big games. Now
it goes to James Franklin because he's the head football
coach and they say his record against ranked opponents is
X and it's awful, all right? Is he really truly
a bad coach? I don't know if it's x's and
o's or it's the culture that they have that can
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Nebraska take Nebraska has set a worldwide record for single
digit losses.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
Right, Yeah, we you were gone last Thursday, Jeff, but
we talked about that Michigan Nebraska game and like, who
do you like? I'm like, until Nebraska wins one of those.
I can't can't believe, like I think it's going to
be a good game, because Nebraska makes every game a
good game, but they can't win them.
Speaker 5 (15:27):
So how do you change How that change that culture?
Speaker 1 (15:29):
I don't know, They're going to always lose them until
you win one.
Speaker 4 (15:32):
You bring Scott frost in and he should have been
the recipe for unbelievable success, right, Yeah, he fit, he
fit there. I mean, this was a perfect fit. Yet
he could not create the culture to go out there
and win games that were you know, reachable to be
able to win. And I would say the same thing
with Penn State and James Franklin. They have been They
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recruit like crazy. They've got great nil, they've got great facilities,
they've got great uniform, they got everything all right, they've
got the white out, they've got everything going for them,
but they don't have that culture that we can win.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
And it seems to me, like you think about the
recent Ohio State Penn State games last decade or so,
we usually win that game physically and sometimes they've had
an outstanding defense, but we've always played more physical than
they have.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
Yeah, think of some of those they always come down
and have come down in the fourth quarter, and o
Highest State makes the plays in the fourth quarter, and
they don't.
Speaker 4 (16:31):
Think of some of those Penn State guys that are
now playing in the National Football League from a defensive
standpoint and how aggressive. And you know Cleveland Browns have
one of them, right, and now Cowboys got rid of
theirs and he's in in Green Bay and green my goodness.
I mean, they have had some spectacular talent, but something
holds them back, all right, And ultimately that comes down
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to the head football coach. Is it is it scheme
or is it execution? All right, you can coach all
the scheme you want. I mean, you could be the
champion in the meeting room. That's like being the best
guy on the practice tea getting ready to go play golf.
Speaker 5 (17:12):
All range team, Man, I'm just smoking him on the range.
Speaker 4 (17:16):
Get me out there on the on the first tea though,
and I'm peeing right down my leg.
Speaker 5 (17:20):
I mean, that's that's the difference.
Speaker 3 (17:23):
I'm not very good I'm ever going to range either.
Speaker 5 (17:25):
Yeah, but you understand what I'm talking about.
Speaker 4 (17:27):
You can, you can, you can be so good at preparation,
but if you can't go out there and execute, and
especially when adversity comes. And I think that's where culture
wins is when there's adversity, everybody is flowing along. When
you're playing Grambling, you don't have to have any culture
to play against Grambling.
Speaker 5 (17:46):
But when you get your rear end in a jam like.
Speaker 4 (17:48):
You did against Ohio University, you figure out a way
to accelerate and get it done. And I'm not comparing
Ohio University to Washington, two different animals altogether, but you
got your rear end in the jam and you got
yourself out of it.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
I saw a or actually listen to a podcast with
Nick Saban and some of the guys Paul Feinbaum. It
was a while back on this culture topic. It just
sparked my memory of this, and I'm paraphrasing, but coach
Saban said regarding like culture, that you can sometimes find
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teams that aren't winning teams but still have a good
culture and they're building. And he brought up some examples
in his coaching career where we were building something and
maybe we weren't there talent wise yet, but I could
feel that culture coming together. And he said, you are
not going to find very many championship teams that have
a good culture that have a bad culture. Right, you
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can find some teams that aren't quite there that have
that culture. Hey, we're coming, but you aren't going to
find that elite, elite team very often, he said. Maybe
there are exceptions, but I've never been a part of
one that didn't have a great culture. And we're playing
for each other exactly right.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
The good teams, the great teams, when things start going tough,
they get tougher and they find a way. The teams
that don't start pointing a finger, they get frustrated and they.
Speaker 3 (19:17):
Don't make plays in critical situations. They have to.
Speaker 4 (19:19):
Now, you take the game of basketball, and with five
players on a court, you could have a Michael Jordan
on your team and to hell with culture. It may
not matter, right, yes, but if you have eleven players
on your team or twenty two players on your starting
team and then you start throwing in kickers and everybody
else that is part of the starters, now you better
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have culture because one guy, two guys, three guys are
not going to carry your football team. Jeremiah Smith, all
by himself, maybe the best player in all of America
from an athletic standpoint. But if Jeremiah Smith isn't totally
plugged in, you know he can't. He can't just do
it on his own if everybody else is out not
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being part of the culture, thinking, oh, we'll just let
Jeremiah handle it, he'll save us.
Speaker 5 (20:09):
No, you got to play your part.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
Well, you guys, And football people will tell you it's
the greatest team sport because you got eleven guys and
one guy screws his assignment up, and it can screw
everything up. Everybody's got to do their job, do your
one eleventh, they always say.
Speaker 3 (20:23):
Bill exactly.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
And the way I can always judge a team early
in the ball game, does a defense run to the football.
I think of a game a few years ago against Purdue.
I remember we sat here and we said we didn't
run to the football right. And you can tell if
you're ready mentally defensively if they run to the football,
because first guy might try to make the tackle. If
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he misses, the second guy's got to be there, but
the third guy's got to call it, try to cause
the turnover.
Speaker 1 (20:51):
Well, with this quarterback, Demon Williams, they better be running
the football today because he's he is a good one.
The bluck eye is coming off of bye. That is,
it's been so far, so good under Ryan Day. Also,
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The game is on Channel ten today three point thirty kickoff,
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as the Buckeyes tried to snap Washington's.
Speaker 6 (22:03):
Twenty two game home winning streak.
Speaker 1 (22:05):
Buckeyes coming off their first of two bys so far
in Ryan Day's coaching career. That's been a good thing
that Ohio State is six to zero after an in
season by since he became head coach, with an average
margin a victory of forty one points.
Speaker 5 (22:20):
Now, if you want to.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
Look at the glass half empty, if you look at
the two buys last year, they didn't play particularly well
in either of them. Now they won, and especially one
of them they won by that big margin. But they
played Marshall. I don't know if you guys remember that game.
They won forty nine to fourteen, but it was twenty
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one to fourteen late in the first half. Marshall came
down and scored on the opening drive and Ohi State
ended up putting them away. And also, to be fair,
Marshall not a major power team, but ended up being
a ten win team, so they are a pretty good
football team. But Ohio Stay won forty one to fourteen.
The other by that they came off than one. The
Nebraska game. We were just talking about Nebraska being in
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games and not being able to finish.
Speaker 6 (23:05):
That was one of them.
Speaker 1 (23:06):
They were leading in the fourth quarter and Ohio State
ended up winning it in the stadium twenty one to seventeen.
That was the week before the Ohio State Penn State game,
which the Buckeyes won. So I don't know if you
read anything into how a team plays after byes.
Speaker 3 (23:23):
It seems absolutely not.
Speaker 1 (23:24):
It seems early in the year for a bye, but
everybody's got it. The whole country has this situation because
there's two bys and you got to break them up
at some point.
Speaker 3 (23:33):
But actually researched this not too long ago.
Speaker 6 (23:35):
Okay, lay it on me, Bill.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
It's fifty percent. It's almost exactly fifty percent. You know, win, lose,
play good, play bad. It's one of those things. It's
like bowl practices, same thing.
Speaker 5 (23:47):
You practice too.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
Much, not enough in paths, without paths, and you can
throw all that stuff out the wind. Teams comes that
day to play the games.
Speaker 3 (23:55):
Teams go win the game.
Speaker 1 (23:57):
Yeah, it seems unnatural to have two breaks in the schedule,
but it is what it is with college football.
Speaker 6 (24:04):
The one thing that it did do.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
Last time we saw Ohio State play was the Ou game.
We saw Lorenzo Styles lead with his shoulder injury. He
didn't practice from what I understand. Last week, however, Ryan
Day said he's back and he'll be out there, which
is obviously a positive, even though a bunch of our
fans are saying, whise he playing. But he's been a
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very good player for Ohio State. And you know, I
think fans have to get over Hey, he allowed a
touchdown pass on a play. It's going to happen sometimes.
Speaker 3 (24:35):
Yeah, the team's going to make a play now, and man.
Speaker 6 (24:37):
That's exactly right.
Speaker 5 (24:39):
Also, there are.
Speaker 1 (24:42):
If you're watching this game and you're a long time
Ohio State fan and a fan of the Buckeyes in
the eighties and the nineties. We mentioned this on Thursday.
Scottie Graham, former fullback in the John Cooper days from
nineteen eighty eight through ninety one. He had twenty career
touchdowns for a buck Eyes. He averaged five yards of
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carry in his career at Ohio State. Jeff has a fullback,
which is pretty impressive. One of his seasons he had
nine hundred and twenty four yards rushing, a near one
thousand yard rushing season at the fullback position for Ohio State.
Speaker 6 (25:17):
But he's the running backs coach.
Speaker 5 (25:19):
He was really good.
Speaker 4 (25:19):
When he went on to have a really good NFL
career as well and became part of the NFL Players
Association leadership level.
Speaker 2 (25:28):
Is that right?
Speaker 4 (25:29):
He was very well respected in that regard and then
decided to get into coaching, and you know, he's he
has been a huge success. And you know, whether Scotty
Graham will eventually be a head football coach at some
point in time, who knows, but my goodness, he has
had a terrific career.
Speaker 2 (25:47):
Great personality, great work ethic, always got along with everybody,
great and really a team guy. So I'm sure they're
really happy to have him.
Speaker 1 (25:56):
Out through the years. Bill, we talked about this Thursday.
But there's a lot of ties through the years in
Washington's football program to either Ohio State or Ohio starting with.
Speaker 6 (26:09):
Don James, right.
Speaker 3 (26:10):
Yeah, he state guy from Nasal, Ohio.
Speaker 6 (26:15):
Fantastic football coach and won a national champion.
Speaker 4 (26:18):
Director of athletics out there. Pat Chun, who was had
an eighteen or twenty year career with Jane Smith here
at Ohio State and left from here and went to
University of South Florida. I think I went to Florida
for fau FAU and he was responsible for bringing Lane
Kiffin to FAU. Now you knew it wasn't gonna last long, Yeah,
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but he was able to go in there and negotiate
that got the job at Washington State. Had been there
for three or four years before the Washington job came open,
and we talked about this on Thursday night. I thought
he was a slam dunk to be considered for Ohio
State's director of athletics when Jeane Smith retired. But I
think we've got a good one in Ross b Yorke.
I mean, so far, so good with the leadership we've
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got there. And boy, has that change that job of
being a director of athletics when you're talking about all
of the dynamics of money and contracts and conferences and playoffs,
and it's just incredible the new responsibilities associated with being
the director of athletics.
Speaker 2 (27:21):
And the one thing that hasn't changed while they're out
there raising all this money and doing all these things,
they still expect their football player or coach to win games. Yeah,
because if a team doesn't win the eighties on the
hot season.
Speaker 5 (27:34):
As much as the football, that's a good point.
Speaker 1 (27:36):
Well, you know what's interesting too is Washington two years
ago in the National Championship Game with Michael Pennix having
the great year, Heisman finalists and all that, and you know,
lost to Michigan in the title game. Last year though,
when Klein de Borr left for Alabama, there was a
mass excidence of players and they were scrambling. Jed Fish
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comes in and Jeff they only went six and seven
last year, didn't have a great year. They did go
undefeated at home though, which is obviously why they had
this twenty two game win streak. But there wasn't like
calls for his head after that year. I think fans
there understood we got to give this guy time because
I mean literally half their roster left and they had
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to replace him. And now I think this is a
big year for Jed Fish. I mean, if he were
to pull an upset today, all of a sudden, he
goes from I don't know about this guy. You know,
we gave him a pass last year too. He'd be
four and zero with a win over the number one
team and certainly would be ranked and be all of
a sudden, a guy that's being talked about nationally, a
program again that's being talked about nationally.
Speaker 4 (28:40):
When you've got the talent that they have a quarterback
and you know that was because of his relationship in
the state of Arizona before he got the Washington job.
And that's where this kid, Demon Williams is from. Is
from Arizona, and he was recruiting him while he was
in the state of Arizona and had that relationship and
convinced seemed to follow him up to Washington.
Speaker 5 (29:02):
And guys, we.
Speaker 4 (29:03):
All know how important that role of a starting quarterback
is in today's college football statistics. I gave you guys
early on in the season that of all of the
teams that were out there, like sixty five percent of
all the starting quarterbacks were transfers. You know, everybody looking
for that quick injection of a cure. You know, how
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do I get the guy? How do I go get
Will Howard? You know, like Ohio State had to do.
We had a quarterback room that had bodies in it,
but obviously Ryan Day didn't feel like any of those
bodies were championship quarterbacks and you want to got any
and he got you know, Will Howard? Yeah, you now,
did he this year? Did he feel as though that
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quarterback room with Will Howard? Moving on, the battle between
Keenholtzen and Julian saying was going to be good enough
that whoever won that battle was going to lead you. Yeah,
they didn't go find anybody in the portal this year,
and the cupboard might have been empty by the time
they got there. But I don't think they felt as
though they needed to upgrade. I thought they felt good
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about the two that they've got there now.
Speaker 2 (30:09):
Absolutely, And I'll tell you what, the athleticism of the
Ohio State football team this year, both sides of the ball,
goes to prove we do great job recruiting athletes. But
you think about Washington, when Washington, before this new era
of nil and all this stuff, They've always had a
good program, solid program. They were able to get the
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good players out of California especially, and Oregon's the same thing.
Speaker 3 (30:34):
Why did they get good all of a sudden.
Speaker 2 (30:35):
They recruited well at California and they were getting players
ahead of UCLA and Stanford and all those other schools.
USC always did well, but you know, Arizona kind of
Arizona State came in. I guess some players in the
Los Angeles area too, But they've really done good recruiting
in the West coast.
Speaker 4 (30:51):
Yeah, I think UCLA has probably been the one that's
been affected most by the great recruiting they've done in
the Pacific Northwest as well as what us he has
been able to do. And then you see programs like
Ohio State or Alabama Notre Dame, they're plucking kids out
of California on a regular basis that they might not
have ever been able to compete with before. You know,
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Julian saying, we always think about him as an Alabama transfer.
He's from California. Yeah, he's one of those California kids
that's here and there are great quarterbacks that are grown
on that West Coast. I don't know how to put it,
but man, they get it done. They get some kids
that are great.
Speaker 2 (31:28):
They get a ton of quarterback coaches, professional quarterback coaches
out there, and it's like they compete against each other
to get these top level guys and just work them
to death and really have done a good job.
Speaker 1 (31:40):
Well, you talk about the value of having an experienced
quarterback for both of these programs going forward Jedfish at
Washington and Ryan Day at Ohio State. Presuming there is
no you know, crazy nil transfer portal stuff that happens.
But Demian Williams is only a solid more. He brought
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him there, as you said, he was recruiting in Arizona.
So he's going to have a really talented dual threat
quarterback back again for a third year as a starter.
And presuming Julian Sane is going to be back here,
he's not draft eligible yet. Even if he has a
huge year, he's going to be back here next year.
And that bodes well for both of these teams going
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forward next year.
Speaker 4 (32:23):
Well, if they want Demon Williams to continue to remain
in Washington, if he's highly successful this year, the check book,
they better back up the brinkstruck because I promise you
that if he does succeed at a high level, his
name goes on the list and he will his phone
will ring, he will be in contact with other programs.
Speaker 6 (32:44):
Boy, that's how without it things have changed.
Speaker 4 (32:46):
Right, guys, I saw a couple of good quarterbacks last night.
I just want to share with you quickly high school
football game Waterson into Sales, playing the seventieth of their rivalry.
Great stuff at the Sales, And of course the starting
core back for the Sales is non other than Ryan
Day's son RJ.
Speaker 5 (33:03):
Day, who is junior this year.
Speaker 4 (33:05):
He has started every game since he was a true
freshman at the Sales that quarterback, and I was really
interested to see, you know, how well he could play.
It didn't matter last night because Waterson's defense was all
over them.
Speaker 5 (33:20):
I mean he had nothing.
Speaker 4 (33:21):
They had sixty eight yards of total offense in the
entire game, and I'm going to guarantee he got sacked
a dozen times.
Speaker 5 (33:27):
I mean, it was just one of those nights.
Speaker 4 (33:28):
On the other side, the state champion, defending state champion,
Waterson Eagles have got Drew Belisari, the son of Greg Belisari,
at quarterback, and he was really, really good last night.
That were the worst part about it is there were
six turnovers in the game, three by each team, and
that will make Monday practices no fun for either of
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those two programs. I could promise you that.
Speaker 3 (33:51):
Were they interceptions, Now there were there were.
Speaker 4 (33:53):
There were I think three fumbles and three interceptions, and
it just it got sloppy.
Speaker 5 (33:58):
But Waters and guys really good.
Speaker 1 (34:02):
I took notes some of the media people that are
out in Washington covering the game noted that Ryan Day
came off of The Boss after dinner watching his.
Speaker 5 (34:13):
Our telecast, Yes Yes, on his ipadatch streaming the game
from from Channel six.
Speaker 6 (34:20):
The things you have to do as a parent whin
you're a Division one football coach.
Speaker 5 (34:23):
Yes, I was.
Speaker 4 (34:23):
I was curious whether or not as soon as the
game was over if R J. Day was going to
hop on a private jet and go to one Seattle.
Speaker 5 (34:29):
But who knows? Who knows? I mean, hey, it'd be
a little too sore. Yeah, you couldn't.
Speaker 6 (34:35):
Well, that's true.
Speaker 1 (34:37):
This Buckeye Washington game is one that some analysts have
circled as a potential upset. But there are some other
big games of the Big Ten today and tonight. We'll
look at those in our weekly Electric Big Ten preview.
Speaker 6 (34:49):
That's next.
Speaker 1 (34:50):
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Speaker 6 (34:54):
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Speaker 1 (35:09):
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Speaker 6 (35:33):
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Speaker 1 (35:41):
Welcome back to the Best Buck Eye coverage pregame show.
Matt McCoy along with Jeff Logan and Bill Conley. We
don't have Roy Hall today. He's got some coaching duties
with JV with Ghana good Win for Gahannah. Last night, Jeff,
you talked about your game. Is Waterston the best team
in the area?
Speaker 4 (35:58):
You know, from a division standpoint, I don't In terms
of that, I mean, there's no question about that.
Speaker 6 (36:03):
The most dominant I guess for yes.
Speaker 4 (36:05):
And I think the other the other two teams that
belong in the conversation would be Orange Old Tangy Orange
and Upper Arlington. Upper Arlington's undefeated. They are really good
about Pick North and Pick Central. You can never take
them out of the conversation. Never take them out of
the conversation. You take that region of Division I and
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look at that. I mean that there is no more
brutal region and all those teams are going to play
each other in the playoffs.
Speaker 2 (36:33):
And that's a really good point because traditionally, you know,
Northeast Ohio was traditionally your big better programs. But I'll
tell you Central Ohio within the last decade there's a
good any by around.
Speaker 4 (36:46):
Well, you take the growth of what's happened in the
old Tangy School District and what's happened in Pickerington. Add
that to the strength of what was already there with Davidson,
who historically has been pretty good. Upper Arlington historically pretty good.
It's it's a it's good, if not better than what
you're seeing out of Cincinnati or Northeast Ohio.
Speaker 6 (37:05):
YEP, for sure.
Speaker 1 (37:06):
Well, it is time for us to check around. The
Big Ten are weekly Electric Big Ten preview. First of all,
before we preview games some games that are going on
or early in the Big Ten. Illinois, after that just
atrocious performance last week on the road at Indiana. They
are still ranked. They dropped all the way to twenty third,
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but they're in the ranking still. But they are playing
number twenty one USC. It's fourteen to seven, Illinois leading,
and that game is late in the first half. Illinois,
I'm sorry, USC has its second in goal at the
Illinois four. They're trying to score the tying touchdown here
before the end of the half. There's only eleven seconds
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left and a half. The other game that's going on now,
the Buckeyes next week. If you hadn't heard, the Minnesota
game is going to be a night game, but the
Gophers will be coming to Columbus. They are playing at
home today against Rutgers and trail at the half twenty
one to fourteen, So that'll be interesting to keep an
eye on. Minnesota is off to a two and one start,
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and Greg Ciano has Rutgers at three and one. They
lost a tough game last week, battled Iowa right down
to the end, but lost to Iowa. So Rutgers had
at the half twenty one to fourteen. Now, as we
look at our Big Ten preview some of the games
coming up, mentioned that what happened with Illinois last week
Jeff getting ambushed by Indiana. Indiana has an interesting game
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and I think they're really good. That opened my eyes.
I was like, are they going to be able to
follow up what they did last year? And you know,
whether you like Kirksideni or not, he's do an unbelievable
job there and they got a quarterback and at Mendoza
and they look great. But to follow up an emotional
night national televised game and have to go to Iowa,
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which they will coming up today at three point thirty.
That to me, will say a lot about Indiana if
they go in there and handle business. I think that
says a lot about that they're really, really good. But
I could also see them coming down to earth and
Iowa was a good team and at their place. I
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could see Iowa pulling off an upset in.
Speaker 4 (39:17):
That well, and that's one of those games where Indiana
is a five point or an eight point favorite in
that game going to Iowa. And that's a game that
you would normally think with the success that Indiana has
most recently had and Mendoza quarterback, that would be a
double digit you know.
Speaker 5 (39:35):
But it's similar to the Ohio State Washington game. For sure.
Speaker 4 (39:38):
That line has been driven down a little bit, and
I think it'll be really interesting to see what happens.
I don't know if Kurt Signetti is such a great coach,
but he has been lucky enough to have the right
guys at quarterback, you know, with Curtis Rooke there before.
Now all of a sudden, you know, when they lost.
Speaker 1 (39:53):
He gets men give him credit though, he got Mendoza
in the transfer portal from cal And exactly, I don't
think anybody saw what he's doing so far coming.
Speaker 6 (40:02):
So yeah, I know.
Speaker 3 (40:04):
How much you respect the Iowa coach.
Speaker 2 (40:06):
So I have to say this that I think Indiana,
if they get a couple of touchdowns up on Iowa,
I was done because they just it's the.
Speaker 6 (40:18):
Same Iowa team.
Speaker 1 (40:19):
They have a really good defense, but they have trouble
scoring the football. I think they're good. I think they're
a little bit better offensively this year. But as my
old swim coach, god Rust is old Dick Sloan used
to say, ten times zero is still zero. Like, so
they're a little bit better, but that that isn't going
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to help you. If you're incrementally better and you've been
really bad offensively, if you fall behind by fourteen.
Speaker 6 (40:46):
They got they got to hang in there.
Speaker 4 (40:48):
If they pull off the upset at home. He is,
without a doubt, coach of the year, no doubt.
Speaker 2 (40:54):
Again.
Speaker 1 (40:55):
And obviously the big game that everybody is talking about,
the Big Ten also at three thirty u c l
A At Northwestern.
Speaker 6 (41:03):
No, I'm just.
Speaker 5 (41:04):
Kidding, think about this.
Speaker 4 (41:06):
This is this is a this is a Big ten game.
Being played at Northwestern in their stadium that seats like
twelve hundred, I mean whatever it is they're they're playing
in that temporary sta.
Speaker 6 (41:19):
The renovations in the new stadium.
Speaker 4 (41:20):
And I guarantee you tickets are available for free. I
mean free, exactly, can you? I mean nobody?
Speaker 2 (41:30):
Well hither other thing too. They will pass out, no
doest you.
Speaker 1 (41:33):
Know, I don't even know who's coaching U C l A.
I've just they're so irrelevant. But you know, they fired
Deshaun Foster after their last game, so they're owing three.
They I don't know how much they spent to get
Niko email out of from Tennessee, but he hasn't been good,
but the whole team hasn't been good, you know that is,
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And they're coming to Ohio State in November.
Speaker 6 (41:58):
That's that's one.
Speaker 1 (41:59):
If you want to go see a Big ten football game,
you can probably find tickets for that one.
Speaker 4 (42:04):
With some pretty powder blue uniforms. Yes, you know, I
like you look good. You know, if the Big Ten
network will have that game, and they deserve that.
Speaker 5 (42:14):
Game, there's no question.
Speaker 4 (42:15):
But could you imagine if you were the broadcast team
that kind of signed that game. That's like telling you
you're the worst broadcasters we have.
Speaker 5 (42:23):
So you're you got Northwestern.
Speaker 1 (42:25):
Yeah, that's the e team, all right, But what seriously
the big game, as we look at the Big Ten preview,
is the Oregon Penn State game. We touched on a
lot on Thursday and earlier in the show. But the
pressure is clearly on James Franklin to get over that
hump we're talking about to get a signature win. They've
got him at home. Uh, wide out all that thing.
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He's he's feeling more pressure than Dan Lanning is in
this game.
Speaker 5 (42:52):
Right.
Speaker 3 (42:53):
Oh yes, by far.
Speaker 1 (42:56):
If Dan Lanning loses, he loses on the road to
the number two team in the country. And by the way,
he was number one last year. Yes, they lost in
the playoffs, but they won the Big Ten. No big
deal Oregon lost. They there's still on line to make
the playoffs. If Penn State loses at home, the narrative
goes on about them.
Speaker 2 (43:15):
Well, I'll tell you one thing. We're to find out
how their new defensive coordinator over at Penn State.
Speaker 6 (43:18):
Boy exactly right, good point.
Speaker 2 (43:21):
Because his defense is not something you pick up quickly.
It took it took us a year.
Speaker 3 (43:26):
So it should be a see.
Speaker 1 (43:28):
You guys both like Oregon, I do, I do see
I think Penn State's going to find a way.
Speaker 6 (43:34):
I do. I think Oregon traveling that far. I think
I think this is one that he gets only.
Speaker 4 (43:40):
If they change the locks in the coaches locker room
and James Franklin can't make it on the field.
Speaker 1 (43:46):
I will say this Penn State for all the and
again they they're three and oh so they've done what
they're supposed to do, but in those wins, they haven't looked.
Speaker 6 (43:57):
Like the number two team in the country.
Speaker 1 (43:58):
This is their chance to say, forget about us in
Villanova or whatever, we're really good.
Speaker 4 (44:05):
And how many chances as Penn State had. Think about
that point, the opportunities that they have had. And that's
why it gets back to culture and uh execution, man.
Speaker 3 (44:17):
And they got one of the easiest schedules in Americas,
no doubt.
Speaker 1 (44:20):
You know you talk about pressure on James Franklin, and
clearly there is. I'll take it as step to.
Speaker 6 (44:26):
Their quarterback Drew Aller.
Speaker 1 (44:27):
Who I mean you look at an NFL draftman, Oh,
he's a first round pick. And I don't want you
to misunderstand. I think he is a really good college quarterback.
But I don't see what other people see, and I
may be mistaken. Maybe he's going to go to the
NFL and have a great I don't see this superstar quarterback.
I see a good quarterback, Jeff I.
Speaker 4 (44:48):
Do reminds me of JJ McCarthy when he was at Michigan,
you know, decent, expect was better though, but always expecting more, yeah,
and not getting it. We'll see McCarthy ended up winning
a national title, and I don't. I mean, maybe Drew
Aller will as well, but I just I to me,
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he's an approve it year and this is a prove
it game, you know, where you've got to get it done.
So obviously that's the marquee game in the Big Ten tonight.
Washington has some big time talent on offense. We're gonna
look at that coming up in our Zettler Hardware Players
to Watch. Also dive into the quarterback matchup. We mentioned
Demon Williams earlier and Julian saying, how do they match
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up against each other? What's the pressure on both of
those guys in a game like this? That's all coming up.
It's our best Buckeye coverage pregame show. Our number two
coming up on News Radio six to ten DOUTVN
Covering Ohio State football and obviously about this game coming
up today as the buck Eyes take on the Huskies
and try to snap a twenty two game Washington home
winning streak. The black Eyes are favored by seven and
a half points, but that line bill started at like
twice that when it first opened, So that tells you
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all the public money is on Washington and a lot
of people feel like they're a really good, underestimated team.
I guess we'll find out in about three hours or so.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Yeah, they probably looked at the intangibles in this game,
probably as they look.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
At a new quarterback.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
One to a rough environment could be, you know, advantage
Washington a little bit.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
But to drop that much.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
People really maybe you're just really watching Washington's films and
they're pretty good football team.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
Yeah, and they do have some players, Jeff, Yeah, I
just think the intrigue of Ohio State traveling out there
is the number one and the momentum.
Speaker 4 (01:00):
You know, Washington goes into this game with absolutely nothing
to lose for sure, all right, you know, they have
a lot of confidence. They love this new coach. They
play for him. From a quarterback who has the ability
to extend plays and you know the guys. I want
to simplify this and tell everybody to turn off your
radio and go watch TV later tonight.
Speaker 5 (01:20):
I want you to listen to the whole show.
Speaker 4 (01:22):
But the magic of this game is going to come
down to Ohio State's defense being able to get off
the field. Washington is leading the country in third down conversions.
That means they their biggest problem is defense. The best
thing they can do is not have their defense on
the field, and they do that by controlling the football offensively.
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Their weakness is defense for sure. So keep those guys
in the locker room. Basically, don't let them get on
the field. Continue to possess the ball.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
Their highest rated and if you believe you know the
scouts and the early, very early NFL draft projections, their
highest rated defensive players, their defensive back to carry O Davis.
News this morning from Pete Thamil, who is ESPN's college
football reporter and covers the Big Ten closely, that he
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is now doubtful to play in this game. He didn't
play last week to Carry O Davis because of rib
and leg injury, but they said he was questionable and
I think during the week people thought, you know, player
that good against Ohio State. He's going to play, but
he's doubtful, and that would certainly be a blow to Washington.
They also their leading tackle linebacker got hurt last.
Speaker 6 (02:34):
Week, so he's out.
Speaker 5 (02:36):
To lose two of.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
Their best defensive players against Ohio State is obviously a blow.
But Bill, you got to go out there and take
advantage of it if you're Ohio State.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
Oh, exactly right, Jeff, hit the nail on the head.
I mean, they want to keep their offense on the
field and key buyers off the field. What we have
to be able to do is use all aspects of
our offensive football team.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
We have to be able to run the ball.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
We have to be able then to hit our players,
you know, our great receivers on explosive place.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
Yeah, that's what we can do against their defense.
Speaker 6 (03:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
I think one of the reasons too, Jeff, you talk
about the long road trip that Ohio State. We've seen
the line shrink since twenty twenty four. The record for
Big Ten teams traveling to the West coast, so leaving
the Eastern time zone and going west three and eleven
straight up, and Ohio State had one of those trips
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last year and is one of the eleven. They lost
by a point to Oregon. So it's long road trip.
And Ryan Day changed up a little bit this year
and left Thursday, and they spent the entire day yesterday
their best footballs and Fridays they spent in Seattle. So
we'll see if that makes a difference. You can't ignore
the number.
Speaker 4 (03:46):
I mean, it's early in this big ten expansion, and
you know, will the teams east of the Mississippi or
anybody that's not on the West coast be able to
figure out you know what the magic is there? You know,
part of it is is that the West coast teams
have been fairly decent. Will you take USC, Washington and Oregon.
Speaker 6 (04:05):
No doubt about it. That has a lot to do.
Speaker 4 (04:07):
You can't mix UCLA in there. They're you know, of
the three wins, it's probably all against UCLA.
Speaker 5 (04:12):
I don't know what the numbers.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
Are, but I remember Indiana last year, earlier in the
year when we started figuring out Indiana was good, went
there and.
Speaker 6 (04:19):
Beat UCLA like a drum. So that's one of the three.
Speaker 4 (04:22):
But three of the four are pretty decent football peers,
to say the very least.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
Yep Yep, no doubt about it. I found it interesting.
By the way, duvetailing off of that is the big
game of the Big Ten today is tonight. It's the
Penn State Oregon game. And Dan Lanning is an excellent coach.
And by the way, I don't know there's times where
he's rubbed me wrong, but I saw his interview at
Big Ten Meet these days very very complementary of Ohio
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State and Ryan Day and the program that he runs.
But nonetheless, he talked this week about and whining about
the amount of travel that Oregon has this year and
starting with the Penn's Day game, and didn't do it
any favors on I get it. I'm not saying that
that's not a valid complaint bill, But.
Speaker 5 (05:05):
You guys joined the Big Ten, you were in the
PAC twelve.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
You could have stayed in the Pac twelve and kept
that conference alive and then you wouldn't have all this travel.
To me, you signed up for this, you know what
I mean. You're gonna have to make long road trips
if you're gonna be in the Big Ten where most
of the teams are in the Midwest.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
Yeah, I'm not sure Dan Lanning signed up for him.
Speaker 6 (05:27):
But that's true too.
Speaker 5 (05:29):
I guess you should.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
Take it up with his president and his athletic director exactly.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
But yeah, we did really get the cream of the
crop when talks about the best players in that conference
come to the Big Ten, which makes it tougher and
tougher every year. But you know, road trips are get
to you see anymore because but you're playing all around
the country anymore, and you play play all you play anywhere,
and you just got to.
Speaker 3 (05:51):
Be able to handle it.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
I know the one thing, we cannot be sleepy in Seattle.
Speaker 6 (05:56):
No, that's exactly.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
No.
Speaker 3 (05:58):
We gotta come out ready to play.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
Yeah, and they talk about it being one of the
noisiest stadiums Jeff, and you know Ohio State's going to
find out about it. But Ryan Day said, we can't
let the environment dictate how we play. It's in one way,
automatically it is because you know, they've been working on
a silent counts, which you wouldn't ordinarily do. But who
who does that put the most stress on the offensive line?
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Is that when you're working on a silent count?
Speaker 6 (06:25):
Is it? You know Julian saying, how does that affect
your off?
Speaker 4 (06:29):
You know, I think it's communicating to that offensive line
more so than anything else. If you think of just
distance between those guys and other receivers, they can all
hand signal everything, but the offensive line is getting up
there and they're looking downfield.
Speaker 5 (06:42):
The receivers have can.
Speaker 4 (06:43):
Look back to that quarterback and get a pretty good
idea what's going on. So Julian saying has got to
have a really good system in place to be able
to communicate with that offensive line, especially when he has
to change things at the line of scrimmage and change
the protections that are there. And that's a big part
of that job. You were talking about those stats, and
Matt I looked up real quickly, how about the West
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Coast guys having to go two or more time zones
the other way? Last year there was a seven and
eight record for West Coast teams requiring travel across two
or more time zones and and overall across the entire
conference teams that traveled two or more time zones either way,
we're ten and nineteen.
Speaker 5 (07:24):
Wow, So travel is an issue.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
Yeah, Well, road games are supposed to be hard, but home.
Speaker 4 (07:30):
Game, yeah, there is a home field advantage in the
Big Ten Conference.
Speaker 5 (07:32):
Yes, let's face it.
Speaker 4 (07:33):
Yeah, even a place like Indiana today all of a
sudden has become a place where it's hard to play.
Usually it was like a scrimmage, no big deal. Yeah,
we we owned the entire stadium with Ohio State fans.
That's not necessarily the case anymore.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
Yeah, true, Bill, you talked about it on Thursday with
you Know, No Vine Enemy, and we outlined it the
Washington program that very story. Addition, a lot of ties
to Ohio. Their rivals are Washington State and Oregon. But
Jed Fish, they're head coach, this week, said this could
be our biggest game of the year. And to me,
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that's like the power of Ohio State. When you're Ohio
State and you go on the road your team's biggest
game of the year, you've all you know, everybody's giving
you your best shot. So they have their rivalry games
that are still coming up. But I just found it
interesting that he's this could be our biggest game of
the year.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
Well that's the way.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
Also, you know he uses that to psych his players
up to that's really telling him, hey, you got to
be ready to play too, come out and get after it.
I think that's so important is who scores in this
game first could be crucial because if you turn over
the ball and you're side of the fifty either team
and the other team scores, then all of a sudden,
you might set You know, the momentum is gonna be
tough to turn around.
Speaker 5 (08:50):
Now you know your point is exactly right.
Speaker 4 (08:52):
I mean, you want to take control of the stadium
as quickly as you possibly can, and you know it's
it's not going to go silent there, but at least
you have some control. I think back to the Ohio
State Penn State game a year ago. What we got
down fourteen nothing in that game?
Speaker 6 (09:05):
Yeah, pick six early on on the road.
Speaker 4 (09:08):
Granted it wasn't a white out, but that was a
very difficult place to play. And I think the experience
that the players have that are returning that are on
this team and they're not all there obviously that a
lot of them are in the NFL, but those guys
that played at Penn State and played at Oregon have
something to rely upon as far as experience is concerned.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
Yeah, is there anything you can tell of Julian saying
before a game like.
Speaker 6 (09:34):
This to prepare him for it?
Speaker 1 (09:36):
Or does he just have to You know, if you're
Ryan Day in his year talking about what to expect
and you know, handling the situation, what's the message.
Speaker 4 (09:44):
Leave him alone, don't over coach him like Keigan Bradley
has done to ruin the United States team in the
Ryder Cup. Give him a break. These guys are professionals.
These guys, I'm not a Ryder Cup. One thing, These
are accomplished young athlete and understand experience. They have put
all the mental part in it that they possibly can.
(10:06):
They've viewed all the tape, they've seen all the video,
they've gone through all the meetings. Go out there and
be yourself. Just just go out there and be yourself.
Don't feel like you have to win this thing. Just
go out there and play and rely upon the assets
that are around you.
Speaker 5 (10:22):
Don't be like Keigan Bradley.
Speaker 3 (10:25):
One putt at a time, I mean one play at
a time.
Speaker 5 (10:27):
Oh my goodness.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
Well, one thing, you know Julian's saying before the opener
against Texas, the big storyline was nineteen straight first time
starting quarterbacks have lost against number one ranked teams.
Speaker 6 (10:42):
You know, well, he broke that streak.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
Now he's got a chance to break its twenty two
game home winning streak as well, So that could be
a notch in his resume going into this thing. But
what are your expectations Bill for Julian saying in today's game, I.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
Think a lot of his coaching staff, the game plan.
I mean, again, like the game against Texas. Don't ask
him to do the impossible early in the game. Let
him get comfortable, you know, giving plays that are a
high chance of success, and if you get a chance
then to go deep on deep boss, fine, but let
him be comfortable.
Speaker 3 (11:16):
Don't ask him to do tough things early.
Speaker 4 (11:18):
When you look at Ryan Day's schedule since he's been
the head football coach on true road games, not including
those neutral site bowl games and that sort of thing,
you're twenty three and three now, two of those losses
are against team up North, and one of those losses
is against Oregon, right yep, So I think that comprises
all three of those road losses. And so they have
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been able to you know, dominate going anywhere else in
the conference. Yet they've not been to Washington under Ryan
Day's leadership at this point as a true road game. Now,
they did play him in the Rose Bowl, and Ryan
Day was part of that last staff if you will,
for Urban Meyer, but this is a first go.
Speaker 5 (11:59):
Or for Ryan Day as well.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
I'm gonna ask a stupid question here, and I say
that it's a stupid question because I can recall you
guys know, I covered basketball for a lot of years
and really admire that Mota and Michigan State in the
I don't know what year was, twenty.
Speaker 6 (12:15):
Ten, eleven, twelve.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
Michigan State's always good, but they were coming in here.
It was a really big game and they had I
think like an eleven game road winning street going. They
hadn't lost on the road at all that particular year,
and we asked coach Model what makes them? Somebody asked
him what makes them a good road team? And he
just looked at us and he goes, they're good, Like
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they have really good players. You could play them on
Mars and they're gonna be hard to beat. So that's
why I say this is a dumb question. But that record,
Jeff you gave, which means a lot we're good. Yeah,
it means that Ohio State's a good team. But what
is the how?
Speaker 5 (12:52):
What makes a good road team?
Speaker 1 (12:54):
Author than the obvious that bad Mota would point out
they're really really good players.
Speaker 4 (12:58):
Yeah, it's kind of hard to explain, but it's a
level of confidence that is created by this thing they
refer to as the brotherhood, meaning they've got each other's back.
Speaker 5 (13:10):
And you can't create that culture.
Speaker 4 (13:14):
You can talk about it all you want in every
football program in the country is talking about culture, but
there are literally teams that don't like each other, you know,
that are on the team and coach. You've had different teams,
different personalities that have been better than others in terms
of really having each other's back and being part of it.
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And I think one of the things that Ryan Day
has been able to do with his coaching staff is
create that culture. And it's not just the words. It's
something that is born into these guys. And again it's overused,
but I don't think you can ignore it at Ohio
State that they have something that's real.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
Yeah, And I think the other thing which makes Ohow
to stay good very rarely we have a defense that
gives up big plays. I mean, most teams have to
work for whatever they get against us. And this statistical fact,
the longer you have ball on offense is a chance
is gonna be mistake made. Somewhere along the way. It
could be dropping a ball, dropping a pass, something like that.
Speaker 4 (14:15):
You know, I think a good comparison to this, and
not to just pick on Penn State, but I would
say over the last six or seven years, Penn State
athletically has been equal to or very close to Ohio
State in every game that they've played. Agreed, Yes, think
about the experience that they've had a quarterback, some of
the great defensive players that they've had, some of the
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running backs. Now you can argue they didn't have the
speed at wide receiver. That's one thing. But the difference
them not being able to win in big games. Now
it goes to James Franklin because he's the head football
coach and they say his record against ranked opponents is
X and it's awful, all right? Is he really truly
a bad coach? I don't know if it's x's and
o's or it's the culture that they have that can
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Nebraska take Nebraska has set a worldwide record for single
digit losses.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
Right, Yeah, we you were gone last Thursday, Jeff, but
we talked about that Michigan Nebraska game and like, who
do you like? I'm like, until Nebraska wins one of those.
I can't can't believe, like I think it's going to
be a good game, because Nebraska makes every game a
good game, but they can't win them.
Speaker 5 (15:27):
So how do you change How that change that culture?
Speaker 1 (15:29):
I don't know, They're going to always lose them until
you win one.
Speaker 4 (15:32):
You bring Scott frost in and he should have been
the recipe for unbelievable success, right, Yeah, he fit, he
fit there. I mean, this was a perfect fit. Yet
he could not create the culture to go out there
and win games that were you know, reachable to be
able to win. And I would say the same thing
with Penn State and James Franklin. They have been They
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recruit like crazy. They've got great nil, they've got great facilities,
they've got great uniform, they got everything all right, they've
got the white out, they've got everything going for them,
but they don't have that culture that we can win.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
And it seems to me, like you think about the
recent Ohio State Penn State games last decade or so,
we usually win that game physically and sometimes they've had
an outstanding defense, but we've always played more physical than
they have.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
Yeah, think of some of those they always come down
and have come down in the fourth quarter, and o
Highest State makes the plays in the fourth quarter, and
they don't.
Speaker 4 (16:31):
Think of some of those Penn State guys that are
now playing in the National Football League from a defensive
standpoint and how aggressive. And you know Cleveland Browns have
one of them, right, and now Cowboys got rid of
theirs and he's in in Green Bay and green my goodness.
I mean, they have had some spectacular talent, but something
holds them back, all right, And ultimately that comes down
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to the head football coach. Is it is it scheme
or is it execution? All right, you can coach all
the scheme you want. I mean, you could be the
champion in the meeting room. That's like being the best
guy on the practice tea getting ready to go play golf.
Speaker 5 (17:12):
All range team, Man, I'm just smoking him on the range.
Speaker 4 (17:16):
Get me out there on the on the first tea though,
and I'm peeing right down my leg.
Speaker 5 (17:20):
I mean, that's that's the difference.
Speaker 3 (17:23):
I'm not very good I'm ever going to range either.
Speaker 5 (17:25):
Yeah, but you understand what I'm talking about.
Speaker 4 (17:27):
You can, you can, you can be so good at preparation,
but if you can't go out there and execute, and
especially when adversity comes. And I think that's where culture
wins is when there's adversity, everybody is flowing along. When
you're playing Grambling, you don't have to have any culture
to play against Grambling.
Speaker 5 (17:46):
But when you get your rear end in a jam like.
Speaker 4 (17:48):
You did against Ohio University, you figure out a way
to accelerate and get it done. And I'm not comparing
Ohio University to Washington, two different animals altogether, but you
got your rear end in the jam and you got
yourself out of it.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
I saw a or actually listen to a podcast with
Nick Saban and some of the guys Paul Feinbaum. It
was a while back on this culture topic. It just
sparked my memory of this, and I'm paraphrasing, but coach
Saban said regarding like culture, that you can sometimes find
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teams that aren't winning teams but still have a good
culture and they're building. And he brought up some examples
in his coaching career where we were building something and
maybe we weren't there talent wise yet, but I could
feel that culture coming together. And he said, you are
not going to find very many championship teams that have
a good culture that have a bad culture. Right, you
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can find some teams that aren't quite there that have
that culture. Hey, we're coming, but you aren't going to
find that elite, elite team very often, he said. Maybe
there are exceptions, but I've never been a part of
one that didn't have a great culture. And we're playing
for each other exactly right.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
The good teams, the great teams, when things start going tough,
they get tougher and they find a way. The teams
that don't start pointing a finger, they get frustrated and they.
Speaker 3 (19:17):
Don't make plays in critical situations. They have to.
Speaker 4 (19:19):
Now, you take the game of basketball, and with five
players on a court, you could have a Michael Jordan
on your team and to hell with culture. It may
not matter, right, yes, but if you have eleven players
on your team or twenty two players on your starting
team and then you start throwing in kickers and everybody
else that is part of the starters, now you better
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have culture because one guy, two guys, three guys are
not going to carry your football team. Jeremiah Smith, all
by himself, maybe the best player in all of America
from an athletic standpoint. But if Jeremiah Smith isn't totally
plugged in, you know he can't. He can't just do
it on his own if everybody else is out not
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being part of the culture, thinking, oh, we'll just let
Jeremiah handle it, he'll save us.
Speaker 5 (20:09):
No, you got to play your part.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
Well, you guys, And football people will tell you it's
the greatest team sport because you got eleven guys and
one guy screws his assignment up, and it can screw
everything up. Everybody's got to do their job, do your
one eleventh, they always say.
Speaker 3 (20:23):
Bill exactly.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
And the way I can always judge a team early
in the ball game, does a defense run to the football.
I think of a game a few years ago against Purdue.
I remember we sat here and we said we didn't
run to the football right. And you can tell if
you're ready mentally defensively if they run to the football,
because first guy might try to make the tackle. If
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he misses, the second guy's got to be there, but
the third guy's got to call it, try to cause
the turnover.
Speaker 1 (20:51):
Well, with this quarterback, Demon Williams, they better be running
the football today because he's he is a good one.
The bluck eye is coming off of bye. That is,
it's been so far, so good under Ryan Day. Also,
there is a Buckeye on the Husky sideline today. More
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The game is on Channel ten today three point thirty kickoff,
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as the Buckeyes tried to snap Washington's.
Speaker 6 (22:03):
Twenty two game home winning streak.
Speaker 1 (22:05):
Buckeyes coming off their first of two bys so far
in Ryan Day's coaching career. That's been a good thing
that Ohio State is six to zero after an in
season by since he became head coach, with an average
margin a victory of forty one points.
Speaker 5 (22:20):
Now, if you want to.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
Look at the glass half empty, if you look at
the two buys last year, they didn't play particularly well
in either of them. Now they won, and especially one
of them they won by that big margin. But they
played Marshall. I don't know if you guys remember that game.
They won forty nine to fourteen, but it was twenty
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one to fourteen late in the first half. Marshall came
down and scored on the opening drive and Ohi State
ended up putting them away. And also, to be fair,
Marshall not a major power team, but ended up being
a ten win team, so they are a pretty good
football team. But Ohio Stay won forty one to fourteen.
The other by that they came off than one. The
Nebraska game. We were just talking about Nebraska being in
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games and not being able to finish.
Speaker 6 (23:05):
That was one of them.
Speaker 1 (23:06):
They were leading in the fourth quarter and Ohio State
ended up winning it in the stadium twenty one to seventeen.
That was the week before the Ohio State Penn State game,
which the Buckeyes won. So I don't know if you
read anything into how a team plays after byes.
Speaker 3 (23:23):
It seems absolutely not.
Speaker 1 (23:24):
It seems early in the year for a bye, but
everybody's got it. The whole country has this situation because
there's two bys and you got to break them up
at some point.
Speaker 3 (23:33):
But actually researched this not too long ago.
Speaker 6 (23:35):
Okay, lay it on me, Bill.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
It's fifty percent. It's almost exactly fifty percent. You know, win, lose,
play good, play bad. It's one of those things. It's
like bowl practices, same thing.
Speaker 5 (23:47):
You practice too.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
Much, not enough in paths, without paths, and you can
throw all that stuff out the wind. Teams comes that
day to play the games.
Speaker 3 (23:55):
Teams go win the game.
Speaker 1 (23:57):
Yeah, it seems unnatural to have two breaks in the schedule,
but it is what it is with college football.
Speaker 6 (24:04):
The one thing that it did do.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
Last time we saw Ohio State play was the Ou game.
We saw Lorenzo Styles lead with his shoulder injury. He
didn't practice from what I understand. Last week, however, Ryan
Day said he's back and he'll be out there, which
is obviously a positive, even though a bunch of our
fans are saying, whise he playing. But he's been a
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very good player for Ohio State. And you know, I
think fans have to get over Hey, he allowed a
touchdown pass on a play. It's going to happen sometimes.
Speaker 3 (24:35):
Yeah, the team's going to make a play now, and man.
Speaker 6 (24:37):
That's exactly right.
Speaker 5 (24:39):
Also, there are.
Speaker 1 (24:42):
If you're watching this game and you're a long time
Ohio State fan and a fan of the Buckeyes in
the eighties and the nineties. We mentioned this on Thursday.
Scottie Graham, former fullback in the John Cooper days from
nineteen eighty eight through ninety one. He had twenty career
touchdowns for a buck Eyes. He averaged five yards of
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carry in his career at Ohio State. Jeff has a fullback,
which is pretty impressive. One of his seasons he had
nine hundred and twenty four yards rushing, a near one
thousand yard rushing season at the fullback position for Ohio State.
Speaker 6 (25:17):
But he's the running backs coach.
Speaker 5 (25:19):
He was really good.
Speaker 4 (25:19):
When he went on to have a really good NFL
career as well and became part of the NFL Players
Association leadership level.
Speaker 2 (25:28):
Is that right?
Speaker 4 (25:29):
He was very well respected in that regard and then
decided to get into coaching, and you know, he's he
has been a huge success. And you know, whether Scotty
Graham will eventually be a head football coach at some
point in time, who knows, but my goodness, he has
had a terrific career.
Speaker 2 (25:47):
Great personality, great work ethic, always got along with everybody,
great and really a team guy. So I'm sure they're
really happy to have him.
Speaker 1 (25:56):
Out through the years. Bill, we talked about this Thursday.
But there's a lot of ties through the years in
Washington's football program to either Ohio State or Ohio starting with.
Speaker 6 (26:09):
Don James, right.
Speaker 3 (26:10):
Yeah, he state guy from Nasal, Ohio.
Speaker 6 (26:15):
Fantastic football coach and won a national champion.
Speaker 4 (26:18):
Director of athletics out there. Pat Chun, who was had
an eighteen or twenty year career with Jane Smith here
at Ohio State and left from here and went to
University of South Florida. I think I went to Florida
for fau FAU and he was responsible for bringing Lane
Kiffin to FAU. Now you knew it wasn't gonna last long, Yeah,
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but he was able to go in there and negotiate
that got the job at Washington State. Had been there
for three or four years before the Washington job came open,
and we talked about this on Thursday night. I thought
he was a slam dunk to be considered for Ohio
State's director of athletics when Jeane Smith retired. But I
think we've got a good one in Ross b Yorke.
I mean, so far, so good with the leadership we've
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got there. And boy, has that change that job of
being a director of athletics when you're talking about all
of the dynamics of money and contracts and conferences and playoffs,
and it's just incredible the new responsibilities associated with being
the director of athletics.
Speaker 2 (27:21):
And the one thing that hasn't changed while they're out
there raising all this money and doing all these things,
they still expect their football player or coach to win games. Yeah,
because if a team doesn't win the eighties on the
hot season.
Speaker 5 (27:34):
As much as the football, that's a good point.
Speaker 1 (27:36):
Well, you know what's interesting too is Washington two years
ago in the National Championship Game with Michael Pennix having
the great year, Heisman finalists and all that, and you know,
lost to Michigan in the title game. Last year though,
when Klein de Borr left for Alabama, there was a
mass excidence of players and they were scrambling. Jed Fish
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comes in and Jeff they only went six and seven
last year, didn't have a great year. They did go
undefeated at home though, which is obviously why they had
this twenty two game win streak. But there wasn't like
calls for his head after that year. I think fans
there understood we got to give this guy time because
I mean literally half their roster left and they had
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to replace him. And now I think this is a
big year for Jed Fish. I mean, if he were
to pull an upset today, all of a sudden, he
goes from I don't know about this guy. You know,
we gave him a pass last year too. He'd be
four and zero with a win over the number one
team and certainly would be ranked and be all of
a sudden, a guy that's being talked about nationally, a
program again that's being talked about nationally.
Speaker 4 (28:40):
When you've got the talent that they have a quarterback
and you know that was because of his relationship in
the state of Arizona before he got the Washington job.
And that's where this kid, Demon Williams is from. Is
from Arizona, and he was recruiting him while he was
in the state of Arizona and had that relationship and
convinced seemed to follow him up to Washington.
Speaker 5 (29:02):
And guys, we.
Speaker 4 (29:03):
All know how important that role of a starting quarterback
is in today's college football statistics. I gave you guys
early on in the season that of all of the
teams that were out there, like sixty five percent of
all the starting quarterbacks were transfers. You know, everybody looking
for that quick injection of a cure. You know, how
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do I get the guy? How do I go get
Will Howard? You know, like Ohio State had to do.
We had a quarterback room that had bodies in it,
but obviously Ryan Day didn't feel like any of those
bodies were championship quarterbacks and you want to got any
and he got you know, Will Howard? Yeah, you now,
did he this year? Did he feel as though that
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quarterback room with Will Howard? Moving on, the battle between
Keenholtzen and Julian saying was going to be good enough
that whoever won that battle was going to lead you. Yeah,
they didn't go find anybody in the portal this year,
and the cupboard might have been empty by the time
they got there. But I don't think they felt as
though they needed to upgrade. I thought they felt good
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about the two that they've got there now.
Speaker 2 (30:09):
Absolutely, And I'll tell you what, the athleticism of the
Ohio State football team this year, both sides of the ball,
goes to prove we do great job recruiting athletes. But
you think about Washington, when Washington, before this new era
of nil and all this stuff, They've always had a
good program, solid program. They were able to get the
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good players out of California especially, and Oregon's the same thing.
Speaker 3 (30:34):
Why did they get good all of a sudden.
Speaker 2 (30:35):
They recruited well at California and they were getting players
ahead of UCLA and Stanford and all those other schools.
USC always did well, but you know, Arizona kind of
Arizona State came in. I guess some players in the
Los Angeles area too, But they've really done good recruiting
in the West coast.
Speaker 4 (30:51):
Yeah, I think UCLA has probably been the one that's
been affected most by the great recruiting they've done in
the Pacific Northwest as well as what us he has
been able to do. And then you see programs like
Ohio State or Alabama Notre Dame, they're plucking kids out
of California on a regular basis that they might not
have ever been able to compete with before. You know,
(31:13):
Julian saying, we always think about him as an Alabama transfer.
He's from California. Yeah, he's one of those California kids
that's here and there are great quarterbacks that are grown
on that West Coast. I don't know how to put it,
but man, they get it done. They get some kids
that are great.
Speaker 2 (31:28):
They get a ton of quarterback coaches, professional quarterback coaches
out there, and it's like they compete against each other
to get these top level guys and just work them
to death and really have done a good job.
Speaker 1 (31:40):
Well, you talk about the value of having an experienced
quarterback for both of these programs going forward Jedfish at
Washington and Ryan Day at Ohio State. Presuming there is
no you know, crazy nil transfer portal stuff that happens.
But Demian Williams is only a solid more. He brought
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him there, as you said, he was recruiting in Arizona.
So he's going to have a really talented dual threat
quarterback back again for a third year as a starter.
And presuming Julian Sane is going to be back here,
he's not draft eligible yet. Even if he has a
huge year, he's going to be back here next year.
And that bodes well for both of these teams going
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forward next year.
Speaker 4 (32:23):
Well, if they want Demon Williams to continue to remain
in Washington, if he's highly successful this year, the check book,
they better back up the brinkstruck because I promise you
that if he does succeed at a high level, his
name goes on the list and he will his phone
will ring, he will be in contact with other programs.
Speaker 6 (32:44):
Boy, that's how without it things have changed.
Speaker 4 (32:46):
Right, guys, I saw a couple of good quarterbacks last night.
I just want to share with you quickly high school
football game Waterson into Sales, playing the seventieth of their rivalry.
Great stuff at the Sales, And of course the starting
core back for the Sales is non other than Ryan
Day's son RJ.
Speaker 5 (33:03):
Day, who is junior this year.
Speaker 4 (33:05):
He has started every game since he was a true
freshman at the Sales that quarterback, and I was really
interested to see, you know, how well he could play.
It didn't matter last night because Waterson's defense was all
over them.
Speaker 5 (33:20):
I mean he had nothing.
Speaker 4 (33:21):
They had sixty eight yards of total offense in the
entire game, and I'm going to guarantee he got sacked
a dozen times.
Speaker 5 (33:27):
I mean, it was just one of those nights.
Speaker 4 (33:28):
On the other side, the state champion, defending state champion,
Waterson Eagles have got Drew Belisari, the son of Greg Belisari,
at quarterback, and he was really, really good last night.
That were the worst part about it is there were
six turnovers in the game, three by each team, and
that will make Monday practices no fun for either of
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those two programs. I could promise you that.
Speaker 3 (33:51):
Were they interceptions, Now there were there were.
Speaker 4 (33:53):
There were I think three fumbles and three interceptions, and
it just it got sloppy.
Speaker 5 (33:58):
But Waters and guys really good.
Speaker 1 (34:02):
I took notes some of the media people that are
out in Washington covering the game noted that Ryan Day
came off of The Boss after dinner watching his.
Speaker 5 (34:13):
Our telecast, Yes Yes, on his ipadatch streaming the game
from from Channel six.
Speaker 6 (34:20):
The things you have to do as a parent whin
you're a Division one football coach.
Speaker 5 (34:23):
Yes, I was.
Speaker 4 (34:23):
I was curious whether or not as soon as the
game was over if R J. Day was going to
hop on a private jet and go to one Seattle.
Speaker 5 (34:29):
But who knows? Who knows? I mean, hey, it'd be
a little too sore. Yeah, you couldn't.
Speaker 6 (34:35):
Well, that's true.
Speaker 1 (34:37):
This Buckeye Washington game is one that some analysts have
circled as a potential upset. But there are some other
big games of the Big Ten today and tonight. We'll
look at those in our weekly Electric Big Ten preview.
Speaker 6 (34:49):
That's next.
Speaker 1 (34:50):
This is the Bust Best Buck Eye coverage pregame show
on news Radio six.
Speaker 6 (34:54):
Ten wtv N.
Speaker 1 (35:09):
And your ABC six game day weather service of the
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I mentioned earlier, it's going to be good weather in
Seattle two for the Buckeyes. Temperature should be in the
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Right now, Galena is checking in at eighty degrees. We're
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at eighty one at your severe weather station, News Radio.
Speaker 6 (35:33):
Six n WTV at.
Speaker 1 (35:41):
Welcome back to the Best Buck Eye coverage pregame show.
Matt McCoy along with Jeff Logan and Bill Conley. We
don't have Roy Hall today. He's got some coaching duties
with JV with Ghana good Win for Gahannah. Last night, Jeff,
you talked about your game. Is Waterston the best team
in the area?
Speaker 4 (35:58):
You know, from a division standpoint, I don't In terms
of that, I mean, there's no question about that.
Speaker 6 (36:03):
The most dominant I guess for yes.
Speaker 4 (36:05):
And I think the other the other two teams that
belong in the conversation would be Orange Old Tangy Orange
and Upper Arlington. Upper Arlington's undefeated. They are really good
about Pick North and Pick Central. You can never take
them out of the conversation. Never take them out of
the conversation. You take that region of Division I and
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look at that. I mean that there is no more
brutal region and all those teams are going to play
each other in the playoffs.
Speaker 2 (36:33):
And that's a really good point because traditionally, you know,
Northeast Ohio was traditionally your big better programs. But I'll
tell you Central Ohio within the last decade there's a
good any by around.
Speaker 4 (36:46):
Well, you take the growth of what's happened in the
old Tangy School District and what's happened in Pickerington. Add
that to the strength of what was already there with Davidson,
who historically has been pretty good. Upper Arlington historically pretty good.
It's it's a it's good, if not better than what
you're seeing out of Cincinnati or Northeast Ohio.
Speaker 6 (37:05):
YEP, for sure.
Speaker 1 (37:06):
Well, it is time for us to check around. The
Big Ten are weekly Electric Big Ten preview. First of all,
before we preview games some games that are going on
or early in the Big Ten. Illinois, after that just
atrocious performance last week on the road at Indiana. They
are still ranked. They dropped all the way to twenty third,
(37:27):
but they're in the ranking still. But they are playing
number twenty one USC. It's fourteen to seven, Illinois leading,
and that game is late in the first half. Illinois,
I'm sorry, USC has its second in goal at the
Illinois four. They're trying to score the tying touchdown here
before the end of the half. There's only eleven seconds
(37:47):
left and a half. The other game that's going on now,
the Buckeyes next week. If you hadn't heard, the Minnesota
game is going to be a night game, but the
Gophers will be coming to Columbus. They are playing at
home today against Rutgers and trail at the half twenty
one to fourteen, So that'll be interesting to keep an
eye on. Minnesota is off to a two and one start,
(38:07):
and Greg Ciano has Rutgers at three and one. They
lost a tough game last week, battled Iowa right down
to the end, but lost to Iowa. So Rutgers had
at the half twenty one to fourteen. Now, as we
look at our Big Ten preview some of the games
coming up, mentioned that what happened with Illinois last week
Jeff getting ambushed by Indiana. Indiana has an interesting game
(38:32):
and I think they're really good. That opened my eyes.
I was like, are they going to be able to
follow up what they did last year? And you know,
whether you like Kirksideni or not, he's do an unbelievable
job there and they got a quarterback and at Mendoza
and they look great. But to follow up an emotional
night national televised game and have to go to Iowa,
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which they will coming up today at three point thirty.
That to me, will say a lot about Indiana if
they go in there and handle business. I think that
says a lot about that they're really, really good. But
I could also see them coming down to earth and
Iowa was a good team and at their place. I
(39:16):
could see Iowa pulling off an upset in.
Speaker 4 (39:17):
That well, and that's one of those games where Indiana
is a five point or an eight point favorite in
that game going to Iowa. And that's a game that
you would normally think with the success that Indiana has
most recently had and Mendoza quarterback, that would be a
double digit you know.
Speaker 5 (39:35):
But it's similar to the Ohio State Washington game. For sure.
Speaker 4 (39:38):
That line has been driven down a little bit, and
I think it'll be really interesting to see what happens.
I don't know if Kurt Signetti is such a great coach,
but he has been lucky enough to have the right
guys at quarterback, you know, with Curtis Rooke there before.
Now all of a sudden, you know, when they lost.
Speaker 1 (39:53):
He gets men give him credit though, he got Mendoza
in the transfer portal from cal And exactly, I don't
think anybody saw what he's doing so far coming.
Speaker 6 (40:02):
So yeah, I know.
Speaker 3 (40:04):
How much you respect the Iowa coach.
Speaker 2 (40:06):
So I have to say this that I think Indiana,
if they get a couple of touchdowns up on Iowa,
I was done because they just it's the.
Speaker 6 (40:18):
Same Iowa team.
Speaker 1 (40:19):
They have a really good defense, but they have trouble
scoring the football. I think they're good. I think they're
a little bit better offensively this year. But as my
old swim coach, god Rust is old Dick Sloan used
to say, ten times zero is still zero. Like, so
they're a little bit better, but that that isn't going
(40:40):
to help you. If you're incrementally better and you've been
really bad offensively, if you fall behind by fourteen.
Speaker 6 (40:46):
They got they got to hang in there.
Speaker 4 (40:48):
If they pull off the upset at home. He is,
without a doubt, coach of the year, no doubt.
Speaker 2 (40:54):
Again.
Speaker 1 (40:55):
And obviously the big game that everybody is talking about,
the Big Ten also at three thirty u c l
A At Northwestern.
Speaker 6 (41:03):
No, I'm just.
Speaker 5 (41:04):
Kidding, think about this.
Speaker 4 (41:06):
This is this is a this is a Big ten game.
Being played at Northwestern in their stadium that seats like
twelve hundred, I mean whatever it is they're they're playing
in that temporary sta.
Speaker 6 (41:19):
The renovations in the new stadium.
Speaker 4 (41:20):
And I guarantee you tickets are available for free. I
mean free, exactly, can you? I mean nobody?
Speaker 2 (41:30):
Well hither other thing too. They will pass out, no
doest you.
Speaker 1 (41:33):
Know, I don't even know who's coaching U C l A.
I've just they're so irrelevant. But you know, they fired
Deshaun Foster after their last game, so they're owing three.
They I don't know how much they spent to get
Niko email out of from Tennessee, but he hasn't been good,
but the whole team hasn't been good, you know that is,
(41:56):
And they're coming to Ohio State in November.
Speaker 6 (41:58):
That's that's one.
Speaker 1 (41:59):
If you want to go see a Big ten football game,
you can probably find tickets for that one.
Speaker 4 (42:04):
With some pretty powder blue uniforms. Yes, you know, I
like you look good. You know, if the Big Ten
network will have that game, and they deserve that.
Speaker 5 (42:14):
Game, there's no question.
Speaker 4 (42:15):
But could you imagine if you were the broadcast team
that kind of signed that game. That's like telling you
you're the worst broadcasters we have.
Speaker 5 (42:23):
So you're you got Northwestern.
Speaker 1 (42:25):
Yeah, that's the e team, all right, But what seriously
the big game, as we look at the Big Ten preview,
is the Oregon Penn State game. We touched on a
lot on Thursday and earlier in the show. But the
pressure is clearly on James Franklin to get over that
hump we're talking about to get a signature win. They've
got him at home. Uh, wide out all that thing.
(42:48):
He's he's feeling more pressure than Dan Lanning is in
this game.
Speaker 5 (42:52):
Right.
Speaker 3 (42:53):
Oh yes, by far.
Speaker 1 (42:56):
If Dan Lanning loses, he loses on the road to
the number two team in the country. And by the way,
he was number one last year. Yes, they lost in
the playoffs, but they won the Big Ten. No big
deal Oregon lost. They there's still on line to make
the playoffs. If Penn State loses at home, the narrative
goes on about them.
Speaker 2 (43:15):
Well, I'll tell you one thing. We're to find out
how their new defensive coordinator over at Penn State.
Speaker 6 (43:18):
Boy exactly right, good point.
Speaker 2 (43:21):
Because his defense is not something you pick up quickly.
It took it took us a year.
Speaker 3 (43:26):
So it should be a see.
Speaker 1 (43:28):
You guys both like Oregon, I do, I do see
I think Penn State's going to find a way.
Speaker 6 (43:34):
I do. I think Oregon traveling that far. I think
I think this is one that he gets only.
Speaker 4 (43:40):
If they change the locks in the coaches locker room
and James Franklin can't make it on the field.
Speaker 1 (43:46):
I will say this Penn State for all the and
again they they're three and oh so they've done what
they're supposed to do, but in those wins, they haven't looked.
Speaker 6 (43:57):
Like the number two team in the country.
Speaker 1 (43:58):
This is their chance to say, forget about us in
Villanova or whatever, we're really good.
Speaker 4 (44:05):
And how many chances as Penn State had. Think about
that point, the opportunities that they have had. And that's
why it gets back to culture and uh execution, man.
Speaker 3 (44:17):
And they got one of the easiest schedules in Americas,
no doubt.
Speaker 1 (44:20):
You know you talk about pressure on James Franklin, and
clearly there is. I'll take it as step to.
Speaker 6 (44:26):
Their quarterback Drew Aller.
Speaker 1 (44:27):
Who I mean you look at an NFL draftman, Oh,
he's a first round pick. And I don't want you
to misunderstand. I think he is a really good college quarterback.
But I don't see what other people see, and I
may be mistaken. Maybe he's going to go to the
NFL and have a great I don't see this superstar quarterback.
I see a good quarterback, Jeff I.
Speaker 4 (44:48):
Do reminds me of JJ McCarthy when he was at Michigan,
you know, decent, expect was better though, but always expecting more, yeah,
and not getting it. We'll see McCarthy ended up winning
a national title, and I don't. I mean, maybe Drew
Aller will as well, but I just I to me,
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he's an approve it year and this is a prove
it game, you know, where you've got to get it done.
So obviously that's the marquee game in the Big Ten tonight.
Washington has some big time talent on offense. We're gonna
look at that coming up in our Zettler Hardware Players
to Watch. Also dive into the quarterback matchup. We mentioned
Demon Williams earlier and Julian saying, how do they match
(45:31):
up against each other? What's the pressure on both of
those guys in a game like this? That's all coming up.
It's our best Buckeye coverage pregame show. Our number two
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