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Speaker 1 (00:00):
With Bonda.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
The fact that this team needs roster space. I think
that's the thing that works the most against and that
and the options is where you can see a tough
move happen. This is every bit of a business when
it comes down to it.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
Hello everybody, and welcome to a brand new episode of
Dodgers Territory on this Thursday, November twentieth. I'm Alana Rizzo.
That is Clint to see us. Clint, how are you doing.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
I am good.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
You know, it's been rainy over here in my neck
of the woods, and of course people don't know how
to drive, people don't know how to live. But it
still doesn't take away the fact that, you know, we
had the basking and the glow of the Dodgers being
two time World Series champs. We're trying to see this
team get better. It's rumor season. It's my favorite time
of year.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
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Josh Norris is going to be joining us today. But first,
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speaking of the rumor mill, Clint Pasius, let's get to
the big ticket.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
It's there.
Speaker 3 (01:25):
We bring up some non Dodger news, Clint, because it
is somewhat related to the Dodgers.
Speaker 4 (01:30):
Right.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
We were talking on Monday about the potential closer market
and whether or not Devin Williams or somebody else would
make sense to kind of shore up the back end
of the Dodgers' bullpen. Well, I can tell you, sir,
it's not going to be ryceel Iglesias, because he has
gone back to the Atlanta Braves. He could have very
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well have been traded at the deadline by the Braves,
but he wasn't. And now they've signed, they assigned him
to a new deal. So what does that mean for
the Dodgers have to do with us?
Speaker 2 (02:01):
Yeah, So where this is intriguing here is that we
did learn here. Francis Romero, who covers the Baseball and
the Rumors on the social media machine, pointed out.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
The Dodgers actually reportedly had.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
An offer out there Glaciers does ultimately re sign with
Atlanta for I think it's sixteen and a half million.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
Dollars or something like that.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
But to me, this tells us Dodgers are serious in
their intentions. They are looking to add some back end
of the bullpen, high leverage, relief arm, whatever it may be.
We know they are interested in Devin Williams. We know
they apparently are interested in this guy I Glaciers to
maybe be some sort of Kirby Yates. What Kirby Yates
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couldn't be for the Dodgers in twenty twenty five. We
do know the Dodgers right now, they have a pretty
good bullpen by the time you get to August, by
the time you get to September. They need some help
early in the season. They need help across the course
of the season. Somebody who can plug in at any
point in the game and potentially, you know, pick up
some saves for them. And that's something, of course, is
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more important for you. You want somebody who can at
least lock it down in the ninth inning, which we
know Iglesius is done over the course.
Speaker 1 (03:13):
Of his career.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
But I'd like knowing that they're operating at the top
of the market.
Speaker 3 (03:17):
Again, I just don't want a revolving door anymore in
terms of the back end of the bullpen. And I
do think that Dave Roberts doesn't get enough credit for
how he managed the bullpen this season. Obviously, in the
off season last year, Clint coming into this year, Andrew Friedman,
Dave Roberts front office ownership did such a tremendous job
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building up the bullpen, right, Kirby Yates, Tanner Scott, all
of these different guys were like, man, we're so stacked
as far as bullpen arms are concerned. Well, it didn't
work out that well. It didn't work out that way.
Obviously in the postseason we lost Alex Bessia. We now
know why. That's far bigger than baseball. That's exactly where
he needed to be. But I just it was so
nerve wracking the whole, you know, revolving door, the harrissel
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of who's going to come in. Obviously Roki Sosaki stepped
up massive in that role as a closer, if you will,
But the plan is for him to be a starter, right,
so you don't have Roki in the bullpen. Evan Phillips,
what are we going to do with him. That's a
conversation we're going to have later on in the show.
Blake Trin and he's not necessarily quite the same Blake
Trynt and he was when he was massively productive in
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twenty twenty four. So whether it is now not right
a cell Iglesias, and really that's the only report I
had heard about that in terms of perhaps he does go.
You know that he the Dodgers did have an offer
out for him, But whether it's a Devin Williams or
what if it's an Edwin Diaz. I mean, I don't
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know if the Dodgers are going to want to spend
that type of money, but he's probably the best closer
relief arm that's available right now on the market. But
that is to be said that if this is in
fact true and there was an offer on the table
for Iglesias, you're right the Dodgers are looking for maybe
not a closer, but for a high leverage arm.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
Yeah, and we know, again we've talked already about Devin Williams.
I think they will be pretty significantly interested. And in
that market that we've heard other names as well, somebody
like a Pete Fairbanks, you and I were talking a
little bit about him in our pre production call.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
Pete Fairbanks is one of those dudes who's long been.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
Linked to the Dodgers, somebody who has and he has
plus stuff. It seems like he would be better off
pitching on the West Coast.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
He says he struggles.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
With kind of the cold in the early part of
the season there in the Al East.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
You're not as certain about Fairbanks.
Speaker 3 (05:36):
Though, Well, you know, I don't know. I mean I
and you and I again, when we're in pre production meetings,
like you know, you're the one doing putting all the
run down together. I was out there kind of walking
my dog and I was like thinking, well, I don't know,
you know, Pete Fairbanks, and I understand the tie in
because of the whole Andrew Friedman tiede and the Tampa
Bay Rays, and I was like, I'm not really sure
if that makes the most sense. But then you brought
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it up and I'm looking at it here right now
on Baseball Reference, E er A last year actually really good.
I mean it's it's south of three. It's a two eight,
three sixty one games, forty eight games that he you know,
he finished twenty seven saves okay, in the in those
forty seven games, so those are decent numbers. Right. He's
been with Tampa Bay for the majority of his career.
He was with Texas for like a cup of coffee.
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You know. You say that he doesn't or he says
that he doesn't really like pitching in the cold early
on in the season, that's fine, but he's gonna have
I mean, the Dodgers travel, you know what I mean.
So even if, even if you know, the majority of
his save opportunities or whatever are at home, he's gonna
have to pitch on the road. So you can't let
the weather, I don't know, affect you that much in
my opinion, when you're a reliever.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (06:41):
I mean, I don't know that he's a closer guy,
but I'm not I wouldn't be mad if Pete Fairbanks
was in the Dodgers root or Dodgers' bullpen as a
high leverage reliever, especially if you obviously have Alex Vesia back,
which we do. What's gonna happen with Evan Phillips, What's
gonna happen with Anthony Bonda? Is Scott but Tanner Scott's
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under contract. The other two it could easily be non tender.
So I mean, I guess you could. I guess you
could trade Tanner Scott, but no one's gonna pick up
the contract or you can just eat it.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
And in terms of all of those names, what I
do like about them is that assumedly somebody like Pete
Fairbanks as well, there are all people that are open
to and willing to pitch in just about any role.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
The save numbers aren't important to them.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
I think that is a factor too, and why Iglesias
probably would be less inclined to sign with the Dodgers
as he does have a decent amount of, you know,
career saves under his belt. Maybe that means something to
him trying to get to like three hundred saves in
his career. I think he's not very far off a
name that we've kind of talked about.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
A little bit here.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
This is the first offseason where I feel like a
Kenley Jensen reunion would make sense. But he's also super
close to five hundred saves in his career, and I
don't know that he would be the anointed de facto
lion share closer if he were to re sign with
the Dodgers, as were somebody at Pete Fairbanks. Dude has
ninety career saves right now. Clearly closing is not the
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most important thing to him. I think he wants to
be the next Tampa Ray, like you know Snell and
glass Now before him to come, you couldn't beat him
before come to LA and let's get.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
That ring baby.
Speaker 3 (08:19):
That's that's quite the path to follow, right. I mean,
you saw what it did for Blake Snell, you saw
what it did for Tyler Glassen. Now I mean Dodgers
being a Dodger or LA. We have talked about for
the last couple of years. It's a destination now, right,
Like folks want to play in Los Angeles for a
variety of reasons. It's interesting, though we've talked about this
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at length. We did it on foul Territory, we did
it on Fair Territory today with Ken Rosenthal. The closer
market is rich, right, There's a lot of really good
arms out there in the closer market. It's kind of
like the shortstop market was a couple of years ago
when there were a lot of really big names all
in free agency. So it'll be interesting to see who
if anybody the Dodgers land in that. You're talking about
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Kenlly Jansen and a possible reunion. What about Cody Bellinger
in a possible reunion. We talked about this a little
bit on Monday, but there is again this is rumor season, guys, right,
This is all speculative. Of course, rumor surface shortly after
we were talking about it about a potential reunion with
Belly bamb on Monday. This from Jeff passon the Ultimate
(09:22):
Preview for the MLB Off Season, Everything you need to
know about the top free agents. Could Belly be back
in La Clint Pasias.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
Yeah, you know, we've heard a couple of rumors. We
heard a couple of links about it. Jeff Passing had mentioned,
you know, there is interest from the Dodger side that
think there's interest in both sides. We've heard Scott Boris
say that he, you know, Belly would welcome a return
to La. There's a lot of positive memories, a lot
of positive vibes associated with it. Less so you know,
you forget about twenty one and twenty two in the
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struggles there coming back from shoulder surgery and kind of
just you know, falling out of the good graces of
the organization and sort of being a disenchant did with
both of each other. I think sometimes, you know, I
like to believe.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
You know, you don't.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
You don't get back with an X or whatever. But
sometimes a couple of years apart can be a good thing.
He's he's kind of turned himself back into a very
very sturdy baseball player. Whether or not the Dodgers would actually,
you know, let's say, get into some sort of bidding
war for a Cody Bellinger, I don't think so. It's
gonna come down to the years, not the money with Cody.
(10:27):
And this is something you know they've they've pretty much
that's how the Dodgers operate. They won't go to your market,
you come down to us.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
It makes sense in a lot of ways.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
Left field, right field still can play probably a little
bit of center field back in LA.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
I would be.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
Surprised if it does happen, but I would not be shocked.
Speaker 3 (10:48):
What's say you, I don't think it's gonna be any
situation in which you get into a bidding war for
Cody Bellinger. I don't know that Cody is the player
anymore where it would warrant a bidding war. I don't know.
I think a lot of it depends on where Cody
wants to play, obviously, but I think it also depends
on what makes the most sense. I love Cody's defense.
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I've always thought Cody was very good defensively, particularly in
center field. So I don't know what that means. I
think it kind of depends on what they do. I've
said this before. I think Tay Oscar should move to left. Yeah,
I think that we need a bona fide center fielder.
And then I don't know what that means for right field.
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A lot of folks are saying, no, no, Kyle Tucker.
You don't want to spend that kind of money on
Kyle Tucker. But maybe it's Stephen Kwan. You and I
talked about that good back to ball skills, very good defensively.
Maybe you leave Tao and right. I don't know. Maybe
you put Cody in right, Maybe you put Stephen in center,
Maybe you put Belly and left. I don't know. I
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just feel like the outfield's all over the place.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
It really is.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
I mean, they're in a pretty interesting spot too, Like
they don't need to make the Dodgers don't need to
make a move. And this is something that Brandon Gomes,
Dodger general manager, said at the GM meetings, just you know,
a week or so ago, like they are not in
a position where they.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
Are forced to make a move.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
If if they went into next season with all of
the bodies they have, maybe you do need to bring back,
at the bare minimum one of Miguel Rojas or Orqike Hernandez.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
But they still have Alex call around, who.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
Is a big league caliber outfielder. They just added Ryan
Ward to to the forty man roster, somebody we talked
to on my All Dodgers YouTube channel yesterday and check
it out.
Speaker 3 (12:33):
What are you doing with Paz.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
Well, Paz is as of now, Uh, you're your centerfielder,
You're you're starting centerfielder.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
That it's not the best situation. I mean, he had
a pretty good year.
Speaker 3 (12:50):
He has some respect. I mean maybe that's maybe that's
just gone.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
He got better over the course of the season, and
I think that's something to really take into consideration when
it comes Andy Pies, that he he keeps getting better.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
Year over year.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
He's only entering his his third full season next year,
and you hope that he continues to to trend in
the right direction. Work on some stuff this winter as well.
You know, he'll be spending some time at Dodger Stadium
with Dino Ebel and Chris Woodward whoever else is hanging
out there, because Dodger Stadium is a twenty four to seven.
You know, it's the best Golds gym you can get
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for sure, and the best version of a drive line,
you know, baseball facility and all that. It's a really
good spot to be working out and hanging out with
the boys and keep getting better. And I have a
lot of faith in Andy pot is continuing to trend
in the right direction. Maybe he's not gonna be that
guy that you know, hit over three hundred, close to
three forty in the month of I think it was
May or June last year, but something where it's a
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little bit more even, it's a little bit more balanced.
Maybe mix a few walks in there. Definitely work on
the base running. But he is as of right now,
he is your starting centerfielder. And I don't think they
signed a center fielder.
Speaker 3 (14:00):
Leisheva Jones is screaming. Lsheva Jones is screaming at me
right now. Bellinger cannot do center field. Look at his
numbers from twenty twenty five, No on, no on belly.
Pat has played a good CF Exodus is saying this,
he still had a good season. He'll get better at
the plate, all right, So that's a that's a vote
for pot his Yeah, all right, all right, all right, people,
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I'm listening to you. I'm listening to you. So here
is a deadline on the Major League Baseball calendar, Clint,
that we need to talk about Tomorrow. The twenty first
is the non tender deadline for Major League Baseball. So
per MLB tr trade rumors, the Dodgers have three non
tendered candidates, and ironically they're all relievers, right handed pitcher
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Evan Phillips, Brock Stewart, so Beef is on there, and
then Anthony Bonda. Now on that first of all, Evan
Phillips on the list surprises me until you look at
the projected money attached to him. So if there was
anybody Clint that perhaps would be non tendered by the Dodgers,
it would likely be Evan Phillips if they're looking to
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make some of the cash. What's your opinion on those three?
Speaker 1 (15:15):
Yeah, I mean, between those three, you know, Evan Phillips.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
It's just money, and it's kind of a lottery ticket
for if you're looking down the road, if e Philly,
if high leverage, honeymoon is healthy when you get into
August and September. If I'm the Dodgers, understanding that I
just print money, I manufacture money, I am happy to
spend the six million dollars. Again, these are projected arbitration figures.
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You could find a situation as well where the Dodgers
come to some sort of you know, one plus one agreement.
They did it with Tony Gonsolin when he was heading
into Tommy John surgery.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
I mean, that's a lazy way of saying it.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
But they've done that in the past where some guys
are injured and you find a way to do a
one year deal with an option, but still six million dollars.
That's chump change for this team. In knowing that you
could have somebody who is who has been a closer
for this team in the past. He is absolutely every
bit of a leverage arm at the back end of
a bullpen, and that is chump change. Going back to
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that list, a couple of names like Brock Stewart, I
didn't really. I didn't really think about it until I
should say I didn't agree with him being a non
tender candidate until I started thinking about a little bit more.
Just because he is coming off with surgery. He is
also somebody who might maybe not be ready for opening day.
They do need bodies that are ready for opening day,
so he is a strong maybe the Bonder one is
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obviously the toughest one that kind of you know, tugs
at people's heartstrings a little bit there.
Speaker 3 (16:44):
Oh my god, the lovely ladies of la are going
to lose their mind. Yeah, goes to another team. They
love him, man, he is a chick magnet if you will.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
Yeah, and you know he's he's solid. He is absolutely
a solid piece in that bullpen.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
However, he does.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
Not have options in twenty twenty six. He didn't in
twenty five either, but he doesn't have options and they
are you know, this is an organization that loves to
be able to have at least a little bit of.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
You know, team control. It's not the money so much.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
They have a bunch of lefties as well with with
you know, we mentioned Tanner, Scott, alex Vesia, Ronan Copp
now being on the on the roster as well.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
On the forty man roster.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
So we find out tomorrow where they end up going
with this, you know, with this decision with the non
tender deadline, somebody who also could maybe I mean he
wouldn't be tendered to contract because he's.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
Not arbitration eligible lot yet.
Speaker 2 (17:46):
But I mentioned a couple of weeks ago you could
find a way to make roster space by by cutting
Bobby Miller or whatever. But to this section of the
show before we take a break and then eventually welcome
in Josh here in a minute or two with Bonda.
The fact that this team needs roster space. I think
that's the thing that works the most against them. That
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and the options is where you can see a tough
move happen. And this is a you know, you know,
is this is every bit of a business when it
comes down to it.
Speaker 3 (18:17):
Well, I mean, as a player, you don't necessarily want
to have options because you don't want to get keep
getting bounced up and down, up and down. You don't
want to have to ride that triple A to the
big league level elevator. But at the same time, it's
like it is a very sticky and scary situation when
they might just be like, see ya, we're going to
let you go and nontender you and see if another
team picks them up.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
But think of the frequent flyer miles.
Speaker 3 (18:39):
No thanks, no, thank you so much, no thank you.
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Yeah, all right, enough enough enough Uh, enough pussy footing
around here, guys. We got Josh Norris here. This is
a senior editor over at Baseball America. Sorry for I mean,
I'm give it intro. That's a heck of an intro,
I tell you what. But Josh does a great job,
(21:04):
of course covering all things prospects.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
The latest Dodgers top.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
Ten prospects list just dropped a couple of days ago,
and there are certainly a number of names that fans
are familiar with that they're excited to either see come
up and help this organization or maybe be traded and
help this organization. Before we dive into those guys, I
wanted to get your you pick your brain a little
bit about two names that were just added to the
(21:29):
forty man roster you rule five protection here, Ronan Copp,
left handed pitcher and outfielder Ryan Ward. What can you
tell people about these two guys in particular, and yeah,
how they could potentially help this organization moving forward in
twenty six.
Speaker 4 (21:46):
Well, Ryan Ward is powerful and he's done a really
good job of cutting the stripes, I'm sorry, the swinging
miss and chase over the last couple of years, and
that's really what led with roster protection. I think he's
he's gonna hit the ball hard, he's gonna hit the
ball often.
Speaker 6 (22:03):
I mean, I will grant you.
Speaker 4 (22:04):
It was the third try in triple A, so I
was a little skeptical about him. But it would have
been a guy who might have gotten taken in the
Rule five draft, just because power is in rare supply.
And by that same token, a guy like Ronan Cop.
You know, he has two really good pitches, and his
slider and his fastball fastball up to ninety nine, slider
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if you can believe it, up to ninety four, and
those two in combination allowed him to strike out a
lot of guys, but he also walked a lot of guys.
But I think there's a chance that if he if
he had gotten onto the open market, he might have
been taken.
Speaker 3 (22:41):
Josh Crazy be with you. Thanks for being on the
show today. We appreciate your time. The Dodgers are dealing
with a bit of a forty man roster crunch, and
as such, they weren't able to protect all Rule five
eligible guys that they may have wanted to. Was there
anybody that you were a little bit shocked to see
them not protect.
Speaker 4 (22:58):
Shocked is probably the wrong word. But the guy that
jumped out to me was Jose Rodriguez. He hits a
lot of checkpoints when it comes to guys who might
be selected. A little bit of a knee injury this year,
but he's big, he's got an outlier delivery, he's up
to seven feet of extension, his fastballs up to one
hundred miles an hour. His slider got fifty percent miss,
(23:19):
his change up got sixty five percent miss. Kind of
a nugget I found while doing that was that, you know,
of the five most missed changeups among guys who threw
it one hundred times in the minor leagues, three were
at one time Dodgers. That's Ryan brown Hill, a Dodger,
Sean Paul Dignan who was traded to the Nationals, and Rodriguez.
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That's between sixty five and seventy something percent miss and
all those change ups. So they had some good change
up artists this year for sure.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
Yeah, they find a way to just just kind of
keep printing some of these dudes. It feels like, you know,
Dodgers and guys who could throw a fastball really really hard,
maybe don't always know where it's going and the you
know the next guy? Uh, you know you mentioned ron
A copp earlier. I think he's somebody who can help
this organization. We saw Jack Dryer last year. I don't
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want to talk so much more about the pitcher.
Speaker 1 (24:13):
Side of it. I want to talk about where they
are overstacked. You can argue in the outfield.
Speaker 2 (24:19):
I think half of your top ten list is outfielders
right now. Who is the closest in your estimation of
being a potential big league contributor now or sooner rather
than you know later, With any of the other you
know four names on that list.
Speaker 6 (24:36):
I would say probably Depaula.
Speaker 4 (24:38):
He had double a time and he has fewer awards
in the profile. I think he's not going to have
the most defensive value, but he's got the highest upside.
He's a He's a guy who hit the ball very hard.
He knows the strike zone. He's smart enough on the
bases to get past you know, middling speed at best,
to steal thirty bags this year. But every time we
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talked to someone, and I don't like to do comps,
but it comes up so often, the name is jor
Don Alvarez, also a former Dodgers prospection. That's the kind
of upside we're looking at here. Whether he fits in
the outfield long term is an.
Speaker 6 (25:12):
Open secret or open question.
Speaker 4 (25:14):
He got better at it, but he's never gonna be,
you know, a bold Glover or anything other than that.
You know, the other guys don't have upper level time.
You know, quin Taro had, you know, got a high
A this year was really good. Dablon obviously just starting
his career. Hope did get to do double D. My
my apology for misspeaking there. But I think of those two,
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the way I ranked him was to Paula over Hope
because he's just more complete hitter in my opinion.
Speaker 3 (25:42):
Josh Hustle ed, Depaula is someone who was a lot
of people excited for his future, big power, speed guy,
maybe not as an outfielder. What can you tell us
about him? And is that a move that can still
happen to the big league level.
Speaker 1 (25:53):
Yeah, I can't play in first base.
Speaker 2 (25:56):
Yeah, talking more about Depaula, that that's something where we've
heard kind of him being potentially a first baseman, like
them trying to move him to the first basement. I
know they're trying to be creative with him, or at
least fans are.
Speaker 1 (26:09):
Is that a movie that happened, Yeah, I think it could.
Speaker 4 (26:12):
That's a bat that you want to get in your lineup,
no matter what I mean. It's not a one to
one comp but think of a guy like Ryan Mountcastle
with the Orioles, where where everybody knew coming up he
was gonna hit, but nobody thought he was gonna play
yours up. But they found ways to get him in
the in the lineup because his bat was just good enough.
That's kind of thing I.
Speaker 6 (26:30):
Think you're gonna see with DePaul.
Speaker 4 (26:32):
He's gonna move somewhere where they needed wherever they need him,
They're gonna find a way to get that bat in there. Obviously,
he has to show some upper level success first. You know,
we'll have that little cameo toward the end of the year.
But he's a guy I think we'll figure into their
long term plans and maybe as soon as some point
this year.
Speaker 3 (26:48):
Jackson Ferris Josh took a bit of a step back
in twenty twenty five. Is he still somebody that can
can can make some noise?
Speaker 6 (26:57):
I think he needs to get it.
Speaker 4 (26:59):
Sounds like from inside the oar he needs to get
a little stronger so he can go deeper into games.
And there was a little bit command issues based on
that delivery, a little you know, excess movement in the
back that kind of inhibits his ability to throw strikes
even quality and quantity, so he can get there. He's
got the row stuff, but there needs to be more development,
and you know, doing this system, I'll be honest, I
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haven't written the eleventh to thirty yet, but I can
tell you just looking at it, it's not the most
pitching deep system you've got right now. And some of
that's because of trades and some of that's just because
you've got a lot of guys clustered at the lower levels.
But Ferris has the stuff. He just needs to take
a jump and control with commanded stamina this year.
Speaker 2 (27:39):
You know, another one of the outfielders of the Mini
that is on that list is somebody who was traded
to LA along with Ferris zire Hope, somebody who some
people haven't protected to have a whole bunch of power.
We know he's got speed, we know he can kind
of flag him down in center field.
Speaker 1 (27:53):
What can you tell fans about zire Hope?
Speaker 2 (27:57):
How far away he is. I think he's only twenty.
He turns twenty one this year, coming up next year,
early next year. But somebody seems to have a lot
of upside. Yeah, what can you tell us about hope?
Speaker 4 (28:07):
He has a lot of upside, But there's also a
lot of holes in the profile of the four Outfielder's
gonna bring up my data here, Like.
Speaker 6 (28:14):
He missed the most, he missed the most in the zone.
Speaker 4 (28:17):
He struggled mightily against left handers. He wasn't great against
changeups this year. So there's a lot of holes to
close before he can get to his upside. I understand
he's one of the more hyped prospects in the miners,
and he's.
Speaker 6 (28:32):
Good, don't get me wrong.
Speaker 4 (28:33):
But I feel like there's always been a gulf between
the hype on the internet and some spots. And I
fully acknowledge I'm part of the internet and maybe reality.
Like there's it's not a slam dunk sort of profile.
I understand there's lots of elements, and you mentioned to
go get him in center field. I don't know anyone
who thinks he's gonna stick in center field. I think
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this is a corner guy, and the problem there is.
If he's a corner guy, he's got to start showing
that power more and more often, that more that offensive profile.
If you can't do that, then he's a tweeener, and
that's probably not what you want.
Speaker 6 (29:08):
Obviously.
Speaker 4 (29:10):
That's why I ranked him fourth among this group. It's
if you talk to four different scouts, you could probably
get four different orders of these guys. You know, I've
met guys who said, hey, you're crazy for rankings iier
Hope here. I've met guys who say, hey, you're crazy
for going with Quintaro at one. It's when you see him.
It's it's not a science. It's a little bit of
art too, So it's not it's it's completely reasonable to
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have them in a bunch of different orders. But I
think I went with Hope there because there's just enough
holes in the profile to maybe question whether he gets
to that upset.
Speaker 2 (29:44):
Yeah, I mean, it's it's funny with this organization, you
know it. I kind of feel like as a Dodger fan,
you know, we they this is an organization that is
blessed with the ability to go out and find talent
and add talent and and kind of create prospects you know,
over using the whole creation as an idea here, But
they are very good at making players that other organizations
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or other fan bases are really excited about. But this
feels to me like a weaker list than what we've
seen in recent years. You and I were talking earlier.
It's not as as pitching happy or pitching loaded as
it has been in years past. And we know other
organizations love pitchers a whole bunch. All of that to say,
you know, you mentioned Eduardo Cantaro at number one on
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your list. Admittedly him being number one, he is the
guy I know the least about. I don't know, maybe
that's an indictment on me here, but Kintaro, is this
somebody who's somebody actually helped this team or more of
a trade guy? Or is he just kind of a
flash in the pan hoping that all of the tools
sort of pan out.
Speaker 4 (30:48):
Will this team you mean twenty twenty six Dodgers, yeah,
or just in general? I mean, I would see I
would say that he is he has a really good
chance to do it. I picked him at number one
because he's got the most well rounded skill set. I
think he's got a really good chance. It's not a
slam dunk. It's maybe a contested layup to stick in
center field.
Speaker 6 (31:08):
But he's the one.
Speaker 4 (31:09):
Of Depaula and Hope, and so maybe Serotis wrote is
a little bit of a wild card based on what
happens when he when he comes back from the knee,
he's got a chance to stick in center field too.
But that's a guy that I have a little bit
of history with. I saw him in the Complex League
two years ago, and I remember seeing the first thing
I saw. I texted my bosses and said, this is
going to be a top fifty prospect in a couple
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of years. Like it was just that kind of you
you know it when you see it sort of guy
with him, and then you know he was okay the
next year. But this year he had a little more
loft to his swing without sacrificing much contact and started
hitting more home runs. And that translated up to Hia Great.
Speaker 6 (31:46):
Lakes to a degree. So this is the guy who's
really well.
Speaker 4 (31:50):
Rounded, and I think, you know he has a chance
to impact the Dodgers.
Speaker 6 (31:54):
But you're absolutely correct in that. I got a question
in a couple of months ago in.
Speaker 4 (31:58):
A chat, Hey, you or see Dodgers outfield one day,
being hope to Paula and Quintaro and the answer is nope,
Like they're going to trade somebody here for something, and
they will, or they will sign somebody to fit.
Speaker 6 (32:13):
In the outfield long term.
Speaker 4 (32:14):
They have the might to do that and they probably will,
Like we do those twenty twenty nine lineups, and they're
mostly for fun because you can't just add ex free
agent to a lineup, you know, preemptively. But that's a
long way of saying I think Quintaro is the most
well rounded of the group, and it would not be surprised,
it would not surprise me if he was in their
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lineup at some point in the twenty twenty seven here's
hoping we have a twenty twenty seven season.
Speaker 6 (32:39):
But yes, that's the timeline.
Speaker 1 (32:43):
That's Verge.
Speaker 3 (32:44):
Yeah, that's the whole other show. Josh Norris, Senior editor
of Baseball America. We always appreciate the insight. Make sure
you guys check out Baseball America on the show here
on Foul Territory on YouTube wherever you get your podcasts,
and don't forget Hot Sheet is on Monday's Josh, Thank
you appreciate time.
Speaker 6 (33:01):
Thank you all right, Josh Norris.
Speaker 3 (33:03):
We appreciate it as always, Clint. Let's get to last licks.
We have a pup for you.
Speaker 1 (33:08):
Let's do it.
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All right, Clint pisis, before we talk about what's coming
up on your show, do you have a baseball thought
for the road? So?
Speaker 2 (34:32):
Yeah, I saw this and I'm trying to get it
loaded up. How about first let's do this. I need
a second. I want you to take a moment to
wish Rick Monday.
Speaker 1 (34:40):
A happy birthday. Yes, because I think this is a
milestone b day.
Speaker 3 (34:43):
It is a massive milestone birthday. So happy eightieth birthday
to Rick Monday. My goodness, he's one of the one
of the most distinguished gentlemen I've ever had the privilege
of learning from working with. I had no idea, truly,
I had app no idea that Rick Monday was eighty like.
He doesn't act eighty, he doesn't seem eighty. I don't
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know what you're supposed to act like at eighty, but
Rick Monday doesn't do it. Still doing a bang up
job with Steven Nelson and Tim Neverett in the Dodgers
radio booth on A five seventy has been such a
pillar of this Dodgers broadcast team and obviously was a
former Dodger. He's just a great man. He's just a
plethora of knowledge. So happy birthday, Happy eightieth birthday to
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Rick Monday. I hope you're having a great time on
your big birthday.
Speaker 1 (35:32):
Mo's an absolute jem. He's an absolute yem.
Speaker 2 (35:36):
But to the baseball thought for the road, we were
talking about this a little bit earlier. So there are
a few baseballs from the World Series are sorry, from
this Dodgers postseason run that are being auctioned off right now.
So the question I ask you is how much would
you pay for Miguel Rojas's Game seven tying homer or
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Will smith go ahead game winning homer in that World Series?
I'm curious is what kind of money you would pay
because the type of money that's up here right now
is insane.
Speaker 3 (36:08):
That that is just stupidity. But that's the thing. I mean,
people spend money on interesting things Like me as a
as a journalist and as a reporter, I wouldn't I
wouldn't pay anything just because I don't know I'm around
it all the time. But if you're a massive fan
and this is what gives you joy, who can put
a price tag? I mean, I guess you can price
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tag right now is two hundred thousand dollars? Well, I
just I don't know. I mean that to me is absurd.
But then think about like you spend a lot of
money on camping stuff, right, I spend a lot of
money on like wine and eating out and travel, like
what I think is worth the money. Like I won't
spend six dollars on a T shirt because I think
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it's too expensive, but I'll drop a lot of money
on a bottle of wine. It's just like whatever you're into.
So I don't know how much would you use. I mean,
this is just like fu money. This type of money
is insane.
Speaker 2 (37:00):
It's it's a bit up there, like and I was, well,
that's an understatement, but that's one of the what I
told you was like, oh, man, I'd love to be
friends with the person like this, And you're like, no.
Speaker 1 (37:10):
I would read yeah, I would person.
Speaker 2 (37:14):
Yeah, let me be the person that has you know,
two hundred K and disposable income so I could buy
the second homer that Shoho Tani hitting that. I mean,
granted it was the homer that went out of the
stadium because he said, f you, Kyle Schwarber, I can
hit a baseball out of the stadium too, not that
those were the same series.
Speaker 1 (37:33):
But I mean two hundred thousand dollars for a baseball.
Iybody want to buy this? I will sign it?
Speaker 3 (37:41):
Yeah, yeah, Well it goes down in value once you
put your signature on it. But SCP Auctions is the
one holding these auctions. Guys. The auction ends in two days,
six hours, and fifty minutes. So if you have two
hundred thousand and one dollar, you can go right now
to SCP Auctions and go ahead and bid on that show. Hey,
or you don't even need too hundred thousand and one,
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just seventy thousand and one, and you can get Miguel Rojas's.
Speaker 1 (38:06):
And he signed that one at least and he did.
Speaker 3 (38:09):
Yeah, shows isn't even signed right, No, that would make the.
Speaker 2 (38:14):
People have Can we get that person to maybe donate
a couple of bucks to Gidrey's, you know, like.
Speaker 1 (38:20):
Come on, God, seriously, like help his sister out there.
Speaker 3 (38:24):
Help his sister out. What's coming up on all Dodgers
with clymp Pacius.
Speaker 2 (38:28):
So what I actually uh less of what's coming up
on because I don't know what we're talking about tonight.
Probably more rumor stuff if we are doing content tonight.
But last night we did welcome Ryan Ward, Dodgers prospect.
I would argue to call him the top slugging prospect,
and he is the outfielder closest to helping this organization,
should be making his MLB debut in twenty twenty six.
Speaker 1 (38:50):
So we asked him a lot about him. We got
to know about him.
Speaker 2 (38:53):
Hey, does he like pancakes or waffles? Does he put
his toilet paper over or under?
Speaker 6 (38:59):
Harvey?
Speaker 3 (39:00):
If it's not over, I don't want him on my team.
Speaker 1 (39:02):
Thank you, thank you.
Speaker 2 (39:03):
I he is a spoiler, he isn't over. What I
did learn, though, is that my co host Jeff Snyder
is wrong and does the over I mean they are
He's never.
Speaker 3 (39:14):
Coming on this show. Jeff is never coming on this show. Like,
if you're an under person, don't talk to me.
Speaker 2 (39:19):
But we also found out something that that Josh had
had pointed out, you know, like he Ryan Ward made
big strides in cutting down his strikeout right, and that
you know how did he get to that point, you know,
the the swing changes that turned him into a thirty
six homer dude at Triple A because he said, you know,
playing in high school and all that, playing in college,
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he was never a homer guy.
Speaker 1 (39:42):
So it's pretty interesting interview.
Speaker 2 (39:43):
Something different, Little Palette cleanser Uh to talk to the
newest guy on the forty man roster.
Speaker 4 (39:50):
No.
Speaker 1 (39:50):
I love that.
Speaker 3 (39:50):
It's good to get to know these young guys because
I certainly don't know enough about them. So check that out.
All Dodgers with Clint Pasias. Check out that Ryan Ward
interview with Dodgers Territory is going to be back on
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We appreciate it very much. Clint and I will see
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Speaker 1 (40:21):
Bye,