The Day We Had An Honest Conversation

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Portions of this program we're prerecording. Hi. Oh my god,
I love you so much. You guys are awesome than
you every single morning, lady, all of you in whow
this is amazing. I'm talking to el Dan. I'm sorry,
Elvis Duran in the Morning Show. And good morning here

(00:22):
on the East Coast. We're watching the sun come up.
We've got shattered glass, we've got shattered hearts, but we
have the optimism to pull all this together. Thank you
for listening. And good morning, Danielle. How are you today?
Good morning? Hanging in there, thank you? Yeah, good morning, Gandhi,
how are you morning? Um? You know I've been better,

(00:44):
I've been worse. It's it's okay today. Good good, high scary,
good morning, good morning. How you doing? Um? Getting by
all right? Yeah? Yeah? Hey straight Nate? Are you still
straight today? Elvis? Yeah? Feel stroke? Just check it in
making sure. Hi, Froggy, Good morning all us. How are you?

(01:07):
I'm concerned you want to talk about it? No, I'm
just concerned for where we are as a country and
how do we get better? How do we stop this
from ever happening again? And how do we get better?
How do we treat everybody? Equally and love everybody. That's
my concern. Very good point. Look, you know we're starting
the show out at six am East Coast time, and

(01:30):
so we're gonna talk about this, and you know, in
twenty minutes, you know, what we've said here will be gone.
It'll be out in the airwaves and it's just going
to evaporate into outer space. And so whoever's not waking
up at six o'clock and listening to this and they
turn us on at six twenty, they're like, well, what
are they? Aren't they going to talk about everything going on?
George Floyd, the whole the whole whole story, the whole spectrum. Well,

(01:52):
we're gonna try to cover it all morning long because
I want everyone to know that we hear what you're
saying and we want to wake up. And I'm I'm
not saying opening our eyes after a night of sleep.
I'm saying opening our eyes and our hearts and our
brains after a lifetime of sleep. This weekend I posted
something on Instagram. Thought I said the right thing, and

(02:13):
as usual, I fed it up. I left some words
out and it was a statement that came out not
what I intended. I'll tell you the story quickly. And
I don't want to make this all about me, but
I want to make it about how we are getting
into this discussion today. This weekend Saturday, I was sitting
there listening to the news and watching TV, and I

(02:35):
was watching all these entertainers and singers and media people
posting things on Twitter and instagram saying, you know what
they thought, Well, here's what we should do, Here's where
we went wrong. Here's how I feel. And I'm thinking,
and I know some of these people, we all do.
I'm thinking some of these people are just tweeting and
instagramming just to hear themselves talk. They just want to

(02:58):
just blah blah blah, and they're not listening. I don't
think they even know what's going on. They just want
to be a part of the discussion, to be relevant.
So what I said was this this weekend. Well I
didn't say this weekend. And that's the problem. I said,
rather than talk can try to make myself relevant, I'm
going to shut up and listen to what people have

(03:19):
to say, because I believe the problem all along as
we have not been listening to what people have to say. Well,
I should have said this weekend, I'm going to shut
up and listen because people started yelling at me. Elvis,
you got to use your platform. You can't shut up.
This is a problem. Why people need to stop shutting up.
You needed to say something in b our Allies and
it opened up this discussion of me an entire day

(03:41):
on Instagram talking to people. People were mad, people were supportive.
It was one of the most eye opening days of
my life where I wanted to explain to everyone, No,
I just want to show up and listen to what
you had to say. And that's kind of what I did.
Even though I were responding to everyone, I had the
best conversations with people, and I want to get into
that today. Look, you know, racial injustice is just something

(04:08):
we lived with. We studied it. In our history books.
We see footage of protests from riots from the sixties
and seventies and eighties and nineties and protests as well.
And then as I was thinking that, I'm like, wait,
this is not a just now thing, and we know this.
Listen to what I just said. We're studying protests from sixties, seventies, eighties,

(04:32):
and nineties and that's just the years where we had
film of these things, not to mention all the years
and hundreds of years before that. It's it's an everyday
thing now, and this everyday story we have to make
something more important. And I'm thinking, no wonder Black people
in America are just tired and exhausted. One of the

(04:56):
people I was so fortunate to talk to Saturday was
a forty two year old listener. She's been listening to
our show for a long time, and she's been fighting
this fight since she was a little girl. She's a doctor.
She grew up with a mother who fought the fight
since she was a little girl, and a grandmother who
fought the fight, and her parents. Her grandmother's parents were slaves.

(05:17):
This is the life she knows. Who wouldn't be broken
by now, But she isn't. She's optimistic, she's hoping for
a better world. And I was totally intrigued with the
conversation I had with her. It's really great. I had
several conversations with several doctors and several people who just said, hey,
we listened to you every morning, but Elvis, you guys

(05:39):
need to wake up. We need you to be our allies. Well, look,
we have always been your allies. But here's what I
did not let this show do. I never let this
show become a show where we focused on what's important
to you. We thought that coming in here every day
and just having fun was all we needed to do. Apparently,

(06:00):
expect more from us. Otherwise you wouldn't be kicking me
in the ass like you did. And I appreciate it.
I'm not looking at it as you scolding us for
being bad people. I'm looking at you saying, hey, we
expect more out of you. We know you, you know us,
we know us, so we want to do better. I
don't know any if anyone's calling, you know, Drew Carey

(06:20):
saying hey, Price is right, you really should have a
segment on there about what's going on in America. They're
not going to do it. I sometimes look at this
show as the twenty minute get away from the things
that fatigue you. The problem is is we're also being
a twenty minute getaway from the things that are important,

(06:40):
and that's where I lost my footing. So on behalf
of my best friends and my family who I work
with every day here at the Morning Show. We want
to do better, but we need you to help us.
You know what's happened here is this story has become
a story that's gone from a murder in Minneapolis where

(07:02):
a police officer took the life of George Floyd, and
it's now become a story about not the peaceful protests
aren't even making it. It's it's the it's the the
other static, it's the looting, it's the riots and stuff
like that. You know, even if if you want to

(07:24):
go out and protest peacefully, you can't because other people
are merging into your lane and they're pushing you away.
You deserve to be heard. So however, we can do it.
If you can, you can text us at fifty five
one hundred. You can call straight ate. He's got nothing
to do, but take your call at one eight hundred
two four two zero one hundred. And there you go.

(07:46):
With that said, I want to start with gandhi, what's
what's on your mind? What are you thinking? I don't
I don't even know where to start with it. Um,
I'm sad and a lot of times which I would
ask you guys to excuse me, my voice is probably
gonna break because I get really teary. But I'm not
as sad as I am very angry right now, and

(08:09):
sometimes I just get frustrated and it comes out that way.
I think I had some really, really great conversations with
people this weekend, too, And I had some really sad
conversations with people this weekend who have been in my
life for a long time, and I didn't think I
had to explain certain things to them or tell them like,
this is my life even though we've grown up together,

(08:29):
this is what things have been. And it's been eye
opening and I don't know what the other word is, overwhelming,
maybe to say the least. But I love you guys
so much, and I looked forward to waking up this
morning and coming and doing this with you because I
need a break from all the stuff that I watched
this weekend and all the things that are happening right now,

(08:50):
and I like seeing your faces. I'm being here for
this right now. So I think there's a lot of
work that needs to be done on everybody's part, on
our part, on the country's part, on everyone's part here,
and I'm really hoping that we start that today. Let's
do that. Yeah, let's start it. You know what, one
step at a time, Do we have all the answers nope,
I barely have any answers. You know, I'm just so

(09:12):
happy to be here with you guys. I'm so happy
to see you, Danielle. How are you doing? You know,
It's it's crazy. I was talking to a lot of
people over the weekend too, and we were talking about how,
you know, I was born and raised in the Bronx,
New York, and I had friends that looked like everybody,
and I never thought about these things because we just

(09:34):
never thought about it. We just were friends. And it's
crazy to me that things like this go on sometimes
because I guess in a way where I lived, I
lived in a bubble with those people because I had
black friends, White friends, you know, Asian friends, Jewish friends,
you know, Catholic friend Like it didn't matter, it didn't

(09:56):
it didn't matter. And that's how I was telling Froggy
that I always feel it starts at it starts at home.
And I've always told my children that inside your body,
you have bones, you have blood, you sweat the same way,
and it who gives a crap what you look like

(10:18):
on the outside, It doesn't matter. Everybody deserves the same rights,
everybody deserves the same everything. Like like so the fact
that this is all still going on, and that this
does still go on, and that all these things go on.
It it really does shock me because it shouldn't. And
it's crazy and and and you know, and it's just

(10:39):
it's sad. It's really you know, you said something very interesting,
and I'm glad you said the word bubble. Living in
a bubble. We're all living in these bubbles. These bubbles
are so different from each other. You lived in a
bubble where the color of the skin really wasn't what
made a difference between one person another. You know, I'm
I'm look, I'm I'm gonna be totally honest with you
today and some of it's gonna get me in bubble

(11:00):
and some of it's gonna piss you off. And let
me just say, I live in a bubble that will
not surprise you. I'm a fifty five year old white guy.
I started with basically nothing and bouncing checks, and I've
done okay with the help of you guys, you know,
living in this bubble, this white privilege with a capital P.
As far as I'm concerned, you know what, I'm kind

(11:23):
of ready to pop that bubble. Look, it's it's great
it's awesome to live in this world where you know,
if you see a story on TV about someone else's
rights being taken away, you look at it and you
shake your head and you're like, God, that's f an
awful man. How do people treat people like that? And
you turn it off? Well, no, no, no, let's talk

(11:44):
about let's talk about people of color. Let's talk about
black people. They're living in a bubble too. They're living
in a bubble, looking at us at our bubble, going,
how come you're in that bubble? I'm in this bubble. Well,
how come you can't? How come you in your bubble
over there? White man, don't understand what's going on in
our bubble over here? You need to understand it, at

(12:04):
the very least understand it. We may don't have the
answers on how to help it. We'll start with that.
I mean, I give you the first word, and this
is the word I'm going to use all day as
it comes to police officers in America. I've got many
friends on the NYPD, and they're in all different different ranks,
men and women and gays and Straits, black, Asian, white,

(12:27):
all of them. I don't believe in the one bad
apple theory. When it comes to police officers. We all know,
we've heard this over and over. You know, there's good cops,
there's bad cops. Bad cops are bad for the good cops.
But what I saw in watching that video of George
Floyd and when he was murdered, what scared me the

(12:52):
most was this, at that time police officer had his
knee on his neck and he had nothing but calm
on his face. I don't think I've ever seen evil
that was that pure. Never. Never. He wasn't a cop,

(13:15):
he wasn't even a person. And those other cops like
what happened, you know, And I'm I was. I was saying, Elvis,
if you were, if you're one of those guys standing
next to what was happening to mister Floyd Wood, would
you said, hey, may in a minute, man, get off
of that stop it, leave him alone. Let's put him

(13:36):
in a car. We we took an oath to keep
keep him safe. It doesn't matter if he, you know,
stole a cat from a kitten store or if he,
you know, blew up a car dealership. It's not up
to us to be the judge and jury. It's up
to us to keep him safe so the rest of

(13:57):
the system can do its job. That's what we do.
I saw that, and I'm thinking, oh man, this is
this is going to be a tough one and it is. Look,
here's my one word step one, in my opinion, accountability.

(14:17):
I think that's the first step. Look, when you sign
that oath to protect us, you've got to be held
accountable for anything that goes wrong. Accountability. These officers need
to be accountable for what they did. And until they are,
until people aren't held accountable for what damage they cause,

(14:41):
then how can we not be scared for anyone and
everyone walking our streets? All Right? I know you you
love listening to our show because you want to hear
fart jokes and you want to hear phone taps and
we're still debating on whether to play a phone taper.
But this is our show. Yeah, Gandhi, what are you thinking?

(15:04):
I think that video was so indicative just on the
whole and symbolic of like what's been going on and
what people are screaming about for so long. That did
happen in broad daylight, as people screamed and begged for
it to stop, as people have been screaming for years,
begging for things to stop, and for the first time
a video was captured that I am not now hearing

(15:27):
somebody try to take the other side on. Everybody seems
to be on the same side for the first time.
And just because this is the first time you're seeing it,
doesn't mean it's the first time it's happened. It's been happening.
But now there's video, so at least people are able
to now see the pain that other people have been
going through for so long. And it's sad that it

(15:47):
took this to get it there, but it's there now
and now people are paying attention. So I'm really hoping
that we can do something with this. And as I
said before, to that point, Gandhi is you know, the
headline here is George Floyd today, and the headline with

(16:08):
George Floyd. George Floyd is all the George Floyd's before him.
That's the headline. And with everything, with everything else going on,
there's a lot of static right now, there's a lot
of noise coming through. Don't take your ears, eyes, and
heart off of the story. That's all I'm asking. I'm
not so we we're waking up after another night of

(16:35):
very very very rough times in many of our cities.
But I just, I just want to remind you that
there were many cities that had peaceful protests yesterday. The
wrong people didn't merge in and turn them into what
they didn't need to be. And there I had a

(16:58):
friend who actually showed up at a protest in La.
She was there, she's a government official. As a matter
of fact, She's like, it was great. And then she said,
you could see people arriving that were there for another reason.
They had a different agenda. Don't forget the good cops,
don't forget the peaceful protesters, and don't forget the people

(17:22):
in this world that not only deserve the lives that
a lot of us experience and enjoy, but maybe more
we've done really well for ourselves. Here's a concept. Rather
than wanting equality, consider yourself. If you're privileged, consider yourself

(17:43):
so well off. You don't want to be equal to people,
You want them to be better. Go ahead, I'm gonna
I want to sit back, give you the opportunity, listen
to what you have to say. I'll just sit here.
I'm good, I'm good, doing really well. Got coffee over here,

(18:03):
got a car, it's all paid off. I'm doing okay,
but it's not a financial thing. It sends us get
out of your way so you can do your thing thing.
That's what it is. So look, you know, there's a
lot of different places to go today for what people
are doing people. Some stations are going to play music,
some stations are gonna be talking. Some people are gonna

(18:24):
be a little less frank than us. A lot of
people are gonna be a lot more frank than us. Here.
We are very privileged at what we do and who
we are. We're acknowledging that and we want to listen
to you. So here's what we want to do. I
think we need to take a break. Is that what
we need to do? Straight Nate for once, isn't screaming

(18:44):
at me. We're gonna take a break. We do. We're
reading your texts as they come through. It's kind of
hard to talk and read, but we're just doing our best.
We'd love to hear from you. I want to get
voices on here because, like I said this weekend, I'm
tired of talking because you're you don't want to hear
what I have to say. Here's what I can do
I can say to you, talk to me one eight

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Elvis Durand in the Morning Show, Hey, look at that sunshine.
That's all I'm saying to look at that sunshine. You
need some sunshine. I don't know. I don't know about you.
But over the weekend, you know, I was, especially Saturday

(19:49):
to night, I was watching the news. I was watching
these peaceful protests across the country turn into things that
weren't so peaceful, and and I said to myself, you know,
you really need to turn this off for a few minutes.
And then another part of me tell me if you agree.
Another part of me was, if you turn this off,
that means you don't care. I'm like, well, so I
had this inner conflict going on. Yes, did anyone know

(20:14):
that I feel exactly the same way, and I think
that that's a huge problem with what's going on, is
that once you reach that level of I'm uncomfortable, you
want to look away. And for so long people have
been looking away because they're uncomfortable, and we can't do
that anymore. You gotta stare at it, and it's terrible
and it makes you feel bad. But like, welcome to
the world of all the people who have been dealing
with this for so long. Talk about uncomfortable looking at

(20:38):
myself naked in the mirror today, I need to shave man.
I look like my dad like he was like, he's
so Harry. He was like Harry and the Henderson's Harry.
And I was like, yeah, I gotta shave this off.
But no Saturday night. But I will tell you that
when it was finally time to go to bed, I

(20:59):
got into bed and I felt my body just shaking.
I'm like, oh boy. So yesterday Alex and I decided,
let's let's keep up with the news online on our
phones and then try to move away then come back.
And I realized, you know, the story, the main story
is always there, The George Floyd's story will never change.
That's done right. But of course, this aftermath and how
we pick up the pieces and try to make it right.

(21:20):
This is the new story. But yeah, is it? Line
twenty four? Is that where you want to go straight?
Name Kelly. Let's go talk to Kelly. Hey, Kelly, Hey,
how are you well? Thank you for asking the question. Well, no,
it's not a dumb question, because I think now more
than ever you know when you ask someone that it

(21:41):
means you really need to know how they're doing. But
we're doing great, and we'll get more into us later.
Let's talk to you, Kelly. Can you tell us about
your perspective and what you're doing these days differently than
you were doing a week ago. Well, this half weekend,
we had all of the riot on TV and my

(22:02):
ten year old Tatum was sitting there and she looked
at me and she said, Mom, it seems like it's
only ever black people that are rioting. Why is that?
And I said, Honey, it's not only black people rioting.
I said, but this happened so often to you know,

(22:22):
black people, brown people. I said. You have to understand
that you've been in the car with both Dad and
I when we've been sold over for speeding, I said,
and you know. When the police officer says license and registration,
I reached over to my purse. I had to get

(22:42):
the registration out of the console of the car. I said, Dad,
wallet is in his back pocket. All he did was,
you know, reached his right hand back there with the
cops standing in the window, and he grabbed his wallet out.
There were no guns drawn. There was no fear of,
you know, I'm going to get shot. We talked about

(23:03):
Philandro Testill. I actually brought up videos for her of
when he was shot because he was asked for his
license and registration. And I showed her the live stream
video that his girlfriend made from the passenger seat as
that man had like six bullets unloaded into him just

(23:25):
and I said, Tatum, it was because he was black.
And I also told her, I said, I don't know
exactly what the story is with George Floyd. I heard
a couple of different things, but from what I understand,
he used a counterfeit twenty dollar bill in a place.
The clerk called the police, The police came. There was

(23:48):
outside surveillance. He was not resisting arrest, which I did
talk to Tatum about, and I said, the man was murdered.
I said that was a white person, they would have
been cussed and stuffed in the car and on their
way to the station, and that would have been it.
I said, Take this happened way too often in our country.

(24:11):
And furthermore, we had a young black woman that lived
with us. She was a high school student with my
daughter senior year of high school, and I wanted her
to have her hair done really nice for school pictures
and stuff. And so I said to her, I'm going

(24:32):
to go and get all the supplies that are needed,
like it was all ordered by a friend of mine.
I just had to go pick it up like my
friend was going to do her hair. And so I
went and picked it up. And when I went into
the shop, I immediately felt like, you don't belong here.

(24:55):
Why are you here? Oh, you're going to use the
credit cards? Okay, why do you need this kind of hair?
Look at your hair, it's straight down your back long.
And the feeling that I got inside, which is also
something that my little one and I talked about again yesterday,
the fact that I felt like that one time in

(25:20):
my entire white life. And I said, Tatum Alasia has
felt like that every week of her eighteen years, I said,
And when I came home and I was so upset.
It was not so much the way I was treated,
it's the way I realized that other people are treated

(25:41):
that Asia's probably been treated, and it was just so
eye opening to me. I couldn't believe it. We live
in a little bit of I mean, they're definitely are
racial tensions in the city that I live in. I
grew up in a very racial community. It was Native
and and I still until that day, just did not understand.

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And so my daughter and I talked about it. And
at the end after we watched the George Floyd video
and the Cilandro Castile video, and I said to her,
you're gonna hear some more that I don't want you
to hear, But here come the videos. She was like,
they were murdered, and I said, yes, they were. They

(26:28):
were murdered, and if they were white, that would not
have happened. So it's it's really hard to explain that
to a little kid when what they see is rioting
and looting in different things like that. And I just,
oh it. The whole thing just makes me sick to
my stomach. And I'm glad that it makes perfect to

(26:49):
her stomach because we have lots of people in our
life that are just not vanilla, you know, right, Listen,
thank you for calling Kelly. You're good mom, and the
fact that you shared all that a lot of I'm
I'm assuming not being a parent. I'm assuming that you know,
sharing all of that with a kid that takes guts
and it's it's probably frightening, but I'm glad you did it.

(27:11):
Thanks for listening to us. Thank you, and please have it.
Please have a nice day. Okay, we're gonna take a break.
Please and be careful out there and keep being a
good mom. Coming up later, doctor Michael Eric Dyson. Charlemagne
called and said, this is a good friend of mine
and he's perfect for your show. You gotta have him
on today. Charlemagne, thank you. I did any help you

(27:33):
can give us to get through this day. I appreciate it.
So Nate actually had a conversation with doctor Dyson last night,
and so, okay, I'll tell you. I called it and said, Nate,
you got to give a doctor Michael Eric Dyson a call.
He has a new book out. Charlemagne says, he's gonna
be great for our show, and Nate's like, Okay, I'll
call him, and then Nate calls back and goes, oh
my god, this guy's great. Yeah. I think a lot

(27:56):
of people, and I think Kelly was trying to relate
that as well, have been feeling things that they've never
felt before. Right, And so I talked to him for
fifteen minutes, and it just made me realize things that
I'd never realized in my entire life. So I'm really
looking forward to the conversation that we're gonnahead with him
in about an hour and a half. Okay, he's on
the way, let's take a break. We'll get back after
this is Elvistan in the morning show. Yeah, just listening

(28:23):
to the news, watching it over the weekend. I hear
them on TV say and now let's go live to
a press conference with the protest organizers in Minneapolis. I went, okay,
So I put down everything and watched, and it was
so eye opening. I wish I could have pushed a
button at that point and made everyone listen to what
they were saying. Not only did you have the protest
organizers who were very very very very direct and focused

(28:46):
on the message, which was all positive, but you also
had a civil right to attorney and they even threw
this great was this guy was great. He was a
Baptist preacher from Minneapolis and he was wow. He was great, awesome,
and it was great to listen. And that's why I
decided to post this post. I just want to listen.
I'm gonna shut up. I want to listen to what
people have to say. And so I got I got

(29:07):
spankings over the weekend. You can't shut up. You've got
to use your platform. I agree, but I just want
to shut up for a minute. And I'm going to
do that now because one of the people I met
on Instagram was roz and Rose. There's something about your
post to me that just really really caught my attention,
and I wanted you to put on. I want to
put you on today and welcome you to our family,
and I want you to give your perspective because I

(29:28):
think it's so great. It's a honor to talk to you.
Roz Hi, how are you doing. We're doing well. You know,
we're trying to figure it out. But you know, your
perspective that I read on Instagram, I think is going
to help shine the light on some things. I want
you to go ahead and just say what's on your
mind and where you're coming from, and also give your
perspective about your life and where you're from and what

(29:50):
you're about. Sure, well, I've been living in New Jersey
all of my life, and I guess really to start
this out, this whole situation, it's just happening time and
time again. I'm distraught, I'm angry, I'm burned, I'm nauseous,

(30:10):
and every day I feel like my mind is just
getting so bloated, if that makes any sense. My head
just feels so full with all this information and what's
going on in the world. You know, just like everyone
who's been demonstrating around the country, you continue to see
this injustice time and time again. And we've been waiting,
we've been writing petitions, we're trying to get involved in

(30:33):
our communities, and for the longest time we've been trying
to do this, and our institutions continue to not hear us,
you know. But after being silence we're so long. Of course,
people are going to take to the streets. It's effective,
and now people are being forced to listen. And my
friend Misha, she actually is from York, New Jersey. The

(30:54):
way she put it, and I loved it. It's a
rebellion of the underserved and unheard, and they're demanding change.
And when things get chaotic, when you know, when detractors
infiltrate these demonstrations with their own agendas, and this leads
to people getting hurt and innocent people being blamed. Um,
we're we live in a very racist society and that

(31:17):
is just obvious. But racism, you know, it's likely we
won't be able to get rid of that, but we
can surely demolish the institutions that allow it to run rampant.
And it's not, you know, only black lives matter, it's more,
can black lives finally matter? Because when you know, black lives,
when they start to matter on a systemic level, than

(31:38):
all lives can matter. And Elvis you mentioned you know
what my life has been like regarding this, Well, Um,
my dad, I'm mixed. My mother's white, my father is black,
and so my father's black and he's also a cop,
and he's also he was in the United States Marine Corps.

(31:59):
And when this black lives movement started years ago, I
had a lot of clashing thoughts and I remember making
a pretty lengthy post on my Facebook about you know,
all lives matter because I was so torn because it
felt that no matter which side I took, my dad
wasn't safe either way. So all Lives Matter felt appropriate

(32:23):
at the time, and it took listening and a lot
of self education to finally get to a point where
I can say it's black lives matter. And sometimes I'm
actually ashamed whenever that memory of my all Lives Matter
post comes up, and I cringe and I always want
to delete it, but I don't because it's a reminder
of how far I've come, and at that point in

(32:44):
my life, it was my truth. But it has become
really simple to me when my dad, when he's not
in his uniform, his skin will always make him a target.
He is always going to be vulnerable, and as long
as his skin is black, he's never going to be unarmed.

(33:05):
Why does a uniform have to keep him safe? H
when Sorry, this is like a very emotional topic. No, no,
it's it is, And you know what, listening to you
is very refreshing. I must I must add here at
the halftime show and now back to the game. Keep going,

(33:27):
because you know what you are saying some very important
stuff here, Rose. I knew it. I knew it when
I was stalking your Instagram page and looking at your pictures.
I knew you're a good person. But please, please, please
go ahead. We want to hear. We want to hear
what you do have to say, please or thank you,
thank you. I appreciate all that. So wait what I
was saying. My point was, you know, why does a

(33:49):
uniform have to keep him safe? And why does you
know his life value decrease when he clocks out of work?
And you know that's not a country he fought or
and it should be the type of community you should
be sacrificing his life to serve. And you know, it
seems like no matter which way you protest our administration,
the followers will find a way to try to silence

(34:10):
or discredit it. And if our government, if you know,
if they don't do what's needed to create this equality
on the systemic level, you know which you know this
does include prosecuting any cop who has committed murder. You know,
our good police they're going to take the hit every
single time. And I just feel our administration clearly it

(34:32):
doesn't serve our black communities. And I don't think they're
doing our police any justice. Either they're watching us tear
each other apart, and you know, they're either too scared
to have these conversations, you know, or they refuse to
acknowledge their privilege, or they just don't care. And this
past weekend, I finally got my mother to understand the

(34:52):
Black Lives Matter movement, you know, during a discussion. We
have this discussion on Friday night, and it's been a
debate in our household for a long time because she,
you know, she was all about our police and our
military because of my dad, and I was about the
Black Lives Matter movement because of my dad. So what
we all did, it wasn't out of malice. It was
all because of love for this person. But I really

(35:16):
just needed her to understand why this movement is so important.
She's strong, she is independent, she stands by her beliefs,
but she allowed herself to be educated and did a
complete one eighty. It acknowledged her privilege, and it was
very emotional about it. And if we continue having these conversations,
we may be able to promote change, and when the

(35:37):
younger generations start taking over public office, there might finally
be some justice in peace. And so you know, Elvis,
regarding your posts this weekend, you were getting annihilated and
that really wasn't fair. And you know, sometimes that first
step is listening. And I think people should feel ashamed

(35:57):
for belittling and criticizing you, because rather than attacking you,
they should have provided you the tools to build your understanding.
And no wonder, no one wants to get involved or
have these conversations when the second you try to take
this step in the right direction, you get abused for
quote unquote not doing enough. And I think listening is
a great start, because as you can see, some people

(36:17):
can't even do that. And to anyone who's listening, who
may have been in a similar boat as I was,
being confused is a great start. It means you're actually
thinking about it. And you know, being lost is great too.
It means you're trying to find the right path. And
you know, anyone who's in that boat right now, we're
honored to have you walk beside us on our march

(36:38):
to the right side of history, because change really does
start with you. It starts in your home. Hey, Gandhi,
Gandhi wants to talk to you for a second. Go ahead, Gandhi,
ras have you met rossou Roz. You sound fabulous. I
just wanted to say I love what you just said

(37:00):
about not chastising people when they have a question or
they're coming from a place of not knowing or what
we may feel as ignorance, because sure we've been seeing
it for so long. How have you not seen it
for so long? But if you've come to the point
right now where you're saying, help me understand this, I
want to know more. I don't think anybody deserves to
be yelled at for that. I think now is the time,
as sick as we all are of talking about it,

(37:22):
to talk about it more, because the only way people
are going to be able to understand and listen is
if that experience comes from us and we tell them that.
So I think alienating the Allies right now is a
huge thing that we should try to stop doing. And
I've seen a lot of that too. So I'm with
you right there all the way. I thank you. You
know what you were you nervous coming on today? Absolutely

(37:45):
me too. I'm with you, man Rose, and I are
shaking on our boots like I would thank you when
you had approached me about this opportunity. I wasn't sure
if I was really even deserving of it, because I
feel there are other voices that need to be heard
other than mine. And you know, I actually had talked
to my dad about it. He's like, you know, your

(38:06):
truth is your truth, and it's important to be is
that it's heard. So he gave me like a little
bit more confidence. And so what I did is I
reached out to a lot of people in my life,
including black cups, white cups, medical personnel, and my one
really good friend I mentioned before, Misha, who's really been
on the front lines of this Black Lives Matter movement,
and I just wanted to get I just wanted to

(38:27):
have these conversations with them and get you know, get
my mind working and make sure that not only was
I speaking my truth, when I was being a megaphone
for other people in my life who deserved to have
a say. Wow, well, let me tell you you prepped
for the show better than I did. And uh, it's
the proof is just right there. If you missed what
Roz said, I we're going to run that back later

(38:47):
on the show. If you don't mind, You're not going
to sue us or anything here? Cool? Now, Hey, ro
I do. I do want us to stay stay connected.
I rarely check my DMS, but I will be looking
more for you in the future. And you have our number.
Now you have the top secret number. So we'd love
to hear from you if ever you have a thought,
and if ever you see me careening off a cliff

(39:08):
and saying, you'd call me and save me. Okay always
all right, Rose, thank you so much. I'm sorry, says again.
Have You've done that for me plenty of times I've
been listening to since I was five. Thank you, I
appreciate it. You go have a beautiful day. Okay, you
deserve it. Oh, thank you so much, you do too.

(39:31):
Thank you Rose. Take care. Wow. So that was our
friend Rose. So you know, even though they were spanking
my assh all weekend, I met some great people. Coming up,
we need to get Danielle's report on. We need to
get producer Sam on. We gotta get some some perspective

(39:51):
from our Froggy, who I was talking to all week
and long. We've got a lot to do. Uh, And
I know this isn't our typical show, and we are
hearing people say, hey, I gotta turn you off. This
this isn't what I want to hear. That's fine, I
don't care. I'm with you. I'm with it. If that's
what you want to do, I want you to you
do you. It's all good. Let's take a break. We'll
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(40:36):
thank you for all the great texts coming through at
fifty five one hundred. Hey, we knew today's Today's Show
needed to be different, and then from now on we
need to think differently. I'm not saying we're gonna have
this type of show every day, but it's the wake
up show. Wake Up. Nothing wrong with that. But also
with a text, we have a lot of people telling
us to go back to being entertainers and stop doing this.

(41:00):
I'm like, no, I'm sorry, I'm you know. The last
thing I want to do is lose listeners and I
don't want to offend anyone, but we truly feel that
this is where we need to be today. And thank
you for trusting us. And if you don't need to
listen today, I'll tell you what. If you don't want
to listen today, maybe today is the day you should
be listening. Let's put it that way. I'm not going
to passively just say okay, go away, Sorry I offended you. No,

(41:22):
because listen, come on, listen to an old white guy
struggling radio show. A big part of me just wants
to say, like, what about this conversation is so bad
that you don't want to listen to it or you
can't listen to it? Because I am interested in that too,
because all of that helps us put together a better

(41:43):
message to reach people in a way that they can
actually be reached. So, if there's something about this show
that's just rubbing you the wrong way, like what is it?
What is it about this conversation about race that's upsetting you?
Know what it is? Also, if I may, and I think,
as I said earlier, a lot of people turn on
our show to get away from the news that brings
them down. And I get that, and that's you know,

(42:05):
we've we've constructed a show here that stays away from
getting political. It stays away from things that make people
cringe and uncomfortable, because you can get that anywhere. There's
a million different places who can go from more music
or political talk or sports or whatever. I wanted this
show to be based as walking down the central line,
not offending, just having fun. But apparently, like I said before,

(42:28):
in trying to give you a place to get away
from sad things, we also took you away from important things.
And that's why I want to make this a little
different today. And hey, I don't want you to stop listening.
I want you to support us, and that's all you know.
And I'm sorry that it's not for you, but I'm
not sorry, and I don't I shouldn't say i'm sorry.

(42:49):
I'm sorry that I'm saying i'm sorry. That makes sense. Yeah, well,
I also think that thank you. I think think that
it's really important for all of us to just really
keep an open mind right now, really talk about the
things that are important and not make this about politics,
because to me, racism is not a political issue, because

(43:12):
I don't think all Republicans are racist. I don't think
all Democrats are not racist, and vice versa. I think
racism is an overarching issue that all sides need to
be on the same page about. It shouldn't be a
divisive thing. To me, it's not politics I'm talking about.
We're talking about humanity exactly. You're talking about us not
wanting to be divisive about something that's divisive. It's it's

(43:33):
just kind of kind of it's just weird. Hey, let's
get rolling. Oh, you know what, there is something else
I want to tell you. Oh my god, I'm so excited.
I don't know if you're familiar with Killer Mike. Killer
Mikey's an Atlanta based rapper artist. He's just a super
nice guy. He's a great guy. A lot of people
are texting in. Okay, you're talking about, of course, the

(43:56):
headline George Floyd, and then you talk about police, then
you talk about accountability. But another thing that's going on
here is peaceful protests, which are important. Some of them
are turning into violent protests, and they're turning into demonstrations
that turn into looting and this and that. He made this,
Oh my god, he made this great speech with the

(44:18):
Mayor's Office of Atlanta. I think the mayor of Atlanta
was doing a press conference. He gives a great perspective
to loving your city and telling his city fellow city
goers do not burn down our city. This is what
we need. I want you to hear his speech because
it's so great. We have that coming up for you
in sits A second producer, Sam, Sorry, we're forty five

(44:41):
minutes late with the feel goods. We could really use
some feel goods today. What do you have for us?
And thanks for your patience. I appreciate it. Okay, So,
as we know, there are a bunch of stories like this,
but this story from Flint, Michigan is one that installed
a very certain kind of hope in me and I
know a lot of us who know this is this

(45:01):
went down. So with all the protests that have been
happening across the country this weekend, some have been met
with brotherhood and sisterhood and empathy by local police officer
who find it within their power. Sheriff Chris Swanson met
protesters without the usual officer attire and let the crowd
know that the only reason he and his team were

(45:21):
there was to make sure that those protesters had a voice,
and rather than explaining it to you guys. Further, we
have a clip of his speech right here here to
make sure that you got a voice. That's it very
good for a second, that he represents you with These
cops are from all over the county and around the station.
We want to be with y'all for real. So I

(45:43):
took the helmet off the later for times down. I
want to make this a parade, not a protester. Wow, yeah, awesome.
He asked what they needed from him, and everyone started
chancing march with us, and that's exactly what he did.
So want to thank all officers out there, and that
includes the officer from North Dakota who was holding hands

(46:06):
with protesters as they held a sign that said we
are one race, the human race. Includes officers in Camden,
New Jersey carrying a banner that read standing and Solidarity
and chanting no justice, no Peace. And it includes a
large group of police officers in Coral Gables, Florida, who
in a group together took a knee during the protest,
which was a really powerful image. So thank you for

(46:28):
all those officers and to the rest who have yet
to experience this yet or we'll continue. I want to
thank you for deciding to use as much patience and
protection as possible in those times, because those are very
important moments in what has been an overwhelming amount of
hunting news. Wow, Sam, beautiful, This is my favorite Sam

(46:51):
report ever. Thank you, Sam. I appreciate a good one.
What's you're making for dinner? Yeah, I've forgotten food was
the thing in the last well though, I don't know. Okay,
there you go. Alex looked up at me last night.
He said, wait, is the pandemic over? No, No, it's not. No,

(47:13):
it's very much it's very much alive. Now we thank you, Sam,
have a great day. Okay, let's go to Danielle, my sister,
my sister for twenty five years. I don't even know. Allright,
we love you. What's going on today, Danielle? What do
you see? All right? So celebrities were uniting with the
world and demanding justice for George Floyd over the weekend.

(47:34):
Chris Jenner, Duane the Rock, Johnson, Reese Witherspoon, Vanessa Bryant.
Of course, the list goes on and on, a lot
of them saying don't ignore something because it makes you
feel uncomfortable. Um. Some celebrities joining the process, like Halsey
even getting things thrown at her, you know, just like
everybody else, Chrissy Teagan, Justin Timberlake, Steve Correll, a lot

(47:55):
of other um celebrities are using their own money to
get some of the pro testers out of jail. Uh.
And it depends on where you look. Some people were
upset about them doing this. Other people were um feeling
that it was something that they should do. Um, so
there you go. Um. How about how some happy news
for some people. Kylie Jenner reportedly isn't as rich as

(48:15):
she says she is. Oh, oh my god. I know
over the weekend a lot of people were excited to
hear about this. Forms I know forms did an extensive
investigation into her her worth and they said that her
numbers were inflated, and people were like, whoa, this is
so exciting. She's actually just she's actually disputing it. So

(48:38):
I don't know, did Okay, No one's business what she has,
and it's we don't. We don't need for her to
dispute it. Who cares what you have? I know, I
don't know. I guess that I don't know. I don't know.
And I remember I told you, I told you the
other day about Harry and Meghan and the whole drone thing,
and they were really worried because the drones were flying
really really close to their house. So they have now

(49:00):
hired Tyler Perry's security team for that because they're really
scared about what's going on there. Lady Gaga has canceled
her a chromatic A listening party because of everything going
on with the George Floyd case and everything just going
on in the world right now. She didn't feel it
was the right time, so she has decided to cancel that.
Over the weekend, people are still talking about COVID nineteen

(49:23):
as well. David Getta did his best to get some
people to dance over the weekend. He hosted a hashtag
United at Home and YC. It was a live stream
dance party raising money for COVID nineteen and he raised
over four hundred and fifty thousand dollars, so that was
pretty cool, and he did it with a lot of
people in New York City, so that was something good
that happened over the weekend. Viacom CBS is doing its

(49:46):
part to let the African American community know that they
matter their platforms, CBSBT, MTV, they're all gonna go dark
today for eight minutes and forty six seconds to mark
the time in which George Floyd was brutally killed as
a tribute to him and other victims of racism. They're
also going to be joining Blackout Tuesday, which asks companies
to not hold any meanings, nor conduct, nor count nor

(50:10):
have any business tomorrow. So I don't know if you
if you're a company that wants to join in that,
but you can look up all the all the details
on deadline. I know they have a lot about that today,
and that is my Danielle report. All right, thank you, Hey, Nate,
I'm sending you I'm sending a number out to someone
who's gonna call you, and she's got kids to get
ready for school, but she's gonna go on with us

(50:30):
later if you can schedule. Her name is KM She's
fabulous and I'm talking to her now. I love it
how you can hear the background, you can hear what's
going on behind the curtain. Um Froggy. Yes, we haven't
heard from you today. You've been so busy trying to
keep us on the air and keep us rolling. I
want to know how you're doing and what are you
what are you seeing? What you're feeling? I'm okay, I'm,
like I said, just trying to take everything in. There's

(50:52):
so many layers to this and I know that, Uh,
like Gandhi had said, it's it's not a political issue.
This is a human race issue. This is a human
rights issue, and it's something that affects every single one
of us. And I think that you can get out
and you can vote, you can do whatever you can
to make change. But I believe a lot of this
starts at home. And I believe that hate is something

(51:14):
that is taught. And I know that firsthand that hate
is something that is taught. I grew up in an area,
and I'm not saying that all of North Carolina is
this way. I'm saying that where I grew up in
North Carolina. I know that hate is something that is taught.
Because you can see children when they're young, children will
play with other children because they're children. They don't know
the difference. So we have to stop teaching this at

(51:37):
home and be nice, be kind to people in public,
and I don't mean pandering and catering to people just
because the color their skin. Treat everybody the same, whether
you're in public, whether you're at home, and teach love.
That's how we can start making a change. I don't
have the answer to how we get things to change politically.
I don't know. Politically we've never been I mean, as

(52:00):
because I've been a lot, there's always been the political issue.
But being nice to each other is not something that
comes from the left of the right, and so I
just want people to be nicer to each other and
be kind. And before you make that joke or before
you say that thing, ask yourself, is this something racist
that I should not say to anybody, Whether it's in

(52:20):
your home, or whether it's with your friends, or no
matter where it is, Ask yourself, is this leading to
somebody learning how to hate? And instead teach somebody how
to love. I think that is how we make a change.
Love you, Froggy, I love you very much. Let's take
her break. Hey, the debate is on, by the way,
phone tap or no phone tap? I was thinking kind
of phone tap? I don't know, should we Well, I

(52:41):
tell you I was speaking to one of my new friends,
doctor Williams, last night, and I tried to get her
to come on the air, but she's not quite ready,
and that's cool. But we had a great conversation last
night and I said, you know what, tomorrow is gonna
be a different type of show just for the day.
And you know, we're not going to do the phone tap.
And she says what Doctor Williams said, what you're not
doing the phone tap? I love the phone tap. I'm like, okay.
She also requested from Bob Marley. She what a great lady.

(53:05):
She's awesome. I tell you what, We're either going to
play Bob Marley or a phone type or both for
Doctor Williams coming up after this. Oh, this is obnoxious.
Toran in the Morning show. We are honored and privileged
to be able to come on the air today and
do a different type of show. And I know usually
turned to us to get away from things that make

(53:27):
you uncomfortable. Today we're talking about things you need to hear,
the important things. And we have a guest coming on
in a few minutes, doctor Michael Eric Dyson. He'll be
on in less than thirty minutes. He has a book
out called can You Hear Me? Now? There's another one too, Wait,
there's another book he has out. He has a lot
of books. This guy's anyway, So our friends Charlemagne that
God called and said she He said, Godfather, you gotta

(53:49):
have this guy on. He's a friend of mine. He's
exactly what you need for your show. And I trust
Charlomagne with my life. So and Nate spent some time
with him on the phone last night. So doctor Michael
Eric Dyson is on the way in like twenty thirty minutes.
Please just keep listening. I think he's got something that
we all need to hear. Okay. The debate was on
phone tapper, no phone tap, and loudly you said, what

(54:11):
are you crazy? So we thought our uncle Johnny one
of our because all our phone taps are old. You know,
we can't do new ones. Right now, we thought Uncle
Johnny's phone tap where he phone taps himself, is so appropriate.
So here we go. Today's phone tap els Elvis durand

(54:31):
Elvis Durant phone tap. Here we go, Garrett phone tapped
Uncle Johnny. All right, set it up? What happened? All right?
So we got an email from our listener, Christina, who
told us her uncle Craig has a great talent. He
thinks he sounds like Uncle Johnny, to the point where
Craig has gone out to bars and people have been
giving them free drinks because they think he's Uncle Johnny. Wow.
So we decided to use Craig's talent and phone tap

(54:52):
our very own Uncle Johnny. He can't wait. Listen in
Hollo zero. Hey Johnny is Garrett. I know, I've just
gotten several emails about something that I thought you should
know about. Yeah, there's this guy that has been going
around claiming to be Uncle Johnny. Get out. You know,

(55:15):
he's causing some trouble. He got thrown out of a
bar for getting into a fight with a guy. He's
giving you a bad name around town, all right, he said,
he said he's gone to the monster before. I mean,
he's literally copying your life. Oh god, this is just
a bad look for us at the radio station. It
certainly is. But we don't need any of this. I mean,
I don't know. It's my reversations he's ruining, I know.
And the interesting part is, so I decided to call

(55:35):
him and he is telling me that he's Uncle Johnny.
Like you know, you know what. I'll put you on
hold and you can listen in, but I want you
to hear what this guy sounds like you know he
hold on, he doesn't know that I'm talking to you. So, hey,
uncle Johnny, I'm sorry. Ell, this was a little busy.
I'm sorry about that. He like going on. So you're
telling me that I should come out and have a

(55:57):
drink with you. Yes, you know, I want to get
back into the studio and uh you know, I guess
the whole corcktails to make. Maybe we could do it monday.
You could have me back and we could met something. Hello, Hello, hello,
hello hello. Would you like to uh like me to
come with you? This is uncle Johnny. Would you like

(56:18):
me to come with you? No, this is uncle No
no chow, and you're talking to the real one now no, no, no,
hello Hello. Anyways, you're not me and I could tell
I could. I'm dying to see you. Yes, I'll meet you. Yeah,
where do you want to meet you? And I could
you could come out and visit me and the cherry's
on the bay on Fire Island. I'll setch up with

(56:38):
a beautiful drink. Yes, completely, Phony's boy, he's copying everything
I do. What are you crazy? So I'll get you
to come over to Fire Island? Are you cute? Ask
Elvis what to do about this? I think that because
you could trace the call. If you can trace where
the call is coming from, we've had him online long enough.
And then uh, and then we'll notify the police that

(57:00):
because it's ruining my reputation, and and I trace him. Now,
what are you crazy? Well, you're both there's a copyright infringement.
I got a lot of money tied up in these
T shirts? You know? Really? Yeah? What are you bananas?
T shirts? I make a will to have it. Listen
to this guy, he's he's trying to say his uncle Johnny. Yeah,
they say he doesn't even sound like him. It's awful.

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Would I have a tupay like this on if I
wasn't Uncle Johnny. You can tell it's a tupay, can't you?
All right? Crazy? I think you cannot tell Uncle Johnny
see what I'm talking about. Yes, Well, apparently we've got
to get in touch with the police or something. Bro,
I'm gonna call the cops right now. I think you should.
And that is this is somebody. He's gone all over
the town impersonating me and then got kicked out of

(57:42):
myles like this, and now it's he's taken over my hope, Pasona.
What are you? Bananis horrible? Oh my god, I don't
know what to do. We're going to get the police
or something. We called some of the listeners that have
met them too, and they said that he even tried
to sell them drugs. Now, this guy, listen, hello, you saddy,
whoever you're listen, you're ruining my reputation. You're really starting

(58:02):
to aggravate me. Now. I don't want anybody selling drugs
in my name, or using my t shirts or anything else.
Do you shut up because if I see you, I'll
break your head. You're not with me, buddy. Hell lady,
I'm telling you right now, it's over nothing. It's over what.
Are you a tough guy? I am a tough guy?
Am i Hella a tough of the new baby? You're

(58:23):
just like, no, don't I'm not even going to play
this game with you. I'm not with you anymore. You're
screwing up Elvis Durand's to his reputation, the radio and
everybody around town. I will hunt you down and I
will have you arrested. And you're trying to perpetrate a
fraud here. I am not trying to perpetrate anything. I'm
going to perpetrate you pictures of me skinny dipping out

(58:45):
in Palm Springs A couple of weeks ago. I was like, well, Google,
are you following me on Twitter? What's the big deal?
Anybody could do that. You'll listen, what are you talking about?
You're a fraud? Here all right, I want to meet you.
I want to meet you now. I want to meet
you too. Where are you? Am I gonna know you?
Tell me where to meet you this afternoon. Well, tell
me where to meet you this afternoon, you idiot. I

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live right by Madison Square Garden. You know, yes, well
he come over here then street from Madison Square. I
live in Madison Square Garden. So come on over, come on,
come on, you want to come on? Send a picture.
You can see me on YouTube making a banana surprise
like women on it. I'm gonna smack you so hog
you mother's gonna feel it. Hey, Uncle Johnny, bananas you

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got phone tapped? Get out, I get going, good night.
I'm gonna show you who is who is my Who's playing?
Uncle Johnny? That's Craig. He actually has been getting free
drinks at bars because people think he's Uncle Johnny, get out.
That was a phone tapped the phone tap me. But

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well you listen, uncle Johnny, You've been a very good sport.
And I'm saying, hell is this guy Brananas have an
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Oh my god, I love you so much. You guys
are awesome every single morning. Lady, love all of you
in a wow. This is amazing. I'm talking to Elvis Duran,
CE Elvis Duran, s Elvis Duran in the Morning Show.
So I'm sitting there minding my own business last night
and I get a text from Charlemagne to God and he,
you know, he calls me godfathers. Hey, Godfather. If you

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don't have my friend Michael on your show tomorrow, then
you're stupid. So I'm like, okay, I'll do as you say,
because if if Charlmagne says it, I usually do it.
Doctor Michael Eric Dyson is here. And when I announced
that you're going to be here today, Michael, it really
you could feel it. You could feel the simmer to
come to a boil in a good way. Speaking of

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police violence on CBS this weekend, he said, and it's
a moment of grief, of profound national recogning for recognizing
reckoning for black people in particular, but for all conscientious Americans.
I hope he is known as the paid pest. And
you actually used a quote, Michael, that I love from
Gore Vidal says, we live in the United States of Amnesia.

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When it comes to American history, we totally forget about
what's happened. Please welcome to our show, doctor Michael Eric Dyson.
We'll call you Michael. Thanks for being here today. Thanks
for having me, man, I appreciate it. What do we do?
What do we do well? Taking off from that quote,
and you know in my book, teers, we cannot stop

(01:01:58):
a sermon to White America. I talk about that quote
from Gore Vidal because we do live in the United
States of Amnesia, which means we're addicted to forgetfulness. We'd
rather forget it. I think the theme song is provided
by Barbara streisand I know you young folk don't know
who Barbara is, but you stuck on Taylor Swift. I
am at or Adele, I get it, but she said,

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what's too painful to remember? We simply choose to forget.
So a lot of us would rather sweep it under
the carpet, pretend it doesn't exist, and then move forward.
So we got to reject our citizenship in the United
States of Amnesia and claim citizenship in the Kingdom of Memory,
which means that we got to remember where we came from.
You know, America is strange. On the one hand, you

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can't get enough of books on Abraham Lincoln or George Washington,
or the Founding fathers or the Founding mothers and brothers.
But when it comes to talking about issues of race
or gender or sexual hey, can't you folk get over it?
So we got to have a little bit more balanced there.
I mean, look at what Lynn Manuel, Miranda did right
with Hamilton. You can make it sex, you can make
it appealing. You can It doesn't have to be dry, old,

(01:03:03):
dusty history. But that history is critical. And if we
don't know where we've come from, we don't know where
we're going. Or as Santiana said, if you if you
don't know what your history is, you're bound to repeat it.
And we're doing the same thing now. People look at
folk who are spilling over in the streets. Oh my god,
don't those people see that they're destroying their communities. What communities?
Many of them are living in places and spaces where

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they got food, deserts. The grocery stores are not owned
by them, the shops are not owned by them. They
don't even own their own bodies. If you can be
on the streets of Minnesota where a police person puts
his knee into your neck and you are crying for
everything holy, you even call on your mama because it
is so devastating, and that police person still doesn't hear you,

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you know, we are in trouble as a nation. So
we've got to own up to our racial past. We've
got to own up to the persistence of white supremacy,
social injustice, economic inequality, to make this na what it
is meant to be, even the creed is what e
plura bazonam. That's a Latin phrase out of many one
that goes right up there with faschizzo ma nizzle from

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Snoop Dog. Those are great cradles by which we live.
So the point is that you got to figure out
a way to get past the blockade of bigotry and
the obstacles of resistance to embracing all brothers and sisters
as our fellow citizens. Now Here, I am a bloated
white guy with a show that's very successful. We do well,

(01:04:32):
and we thought we would come in here every day
and offer a getaway for people who want who want
to turn off political talk and negative talk and too
much music, and where we would come on the air
and we have fun, We tell far jokes and you
know whatever. But in doing so, we've we we also
gave people a way to get away from the important issues.
And this is this is how I had my ass

(01:04:53):
slap this weekend. On on Instagram. They're saying, Elvis, you
got you got to use your platform. I'm like, I
want to use my platform. We have ten million people
a week listening. And I walked in this morning with notes.
I was ready to go. I would have made you
proud with all this stuff I wrote you. I'll give
it to you and write a book with it. And
and I just, I just, I just I'm tired of talking.
I want to listen. I want I want people to learn.

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And from the white man's perspective, you know, we want
to do better, we want to do the right things,
but we it's okay for us to ask for help, right. Absolutely. Look,
there's no question about it, you know. Uh, and I understand.
You know. I teach a Georgetown. I got young black
students who say, look, we're tired, we're fatigued, we're not
here to teach other white students what to do and

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how to be. And so I was with them one
day in class and most of my classes, of course,
of white folk, and I said, yeah, I know what
you mean. Man, I'm tired of having it. I said, oh, no,
no way, minute, that's my job. Oh I forgot, No,
I'm the professor. Yeah, it is my job to teach. Okay,
Oh white kids want to know. Oh yeah, I get
paid to tell you what it is. So the reality

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is is that? Yes, you know Malcolm X that famous
scene and I'm sure you've seen the monumental epic film
by Spike Lee when the young white woman comes up
to him and says, what can I do? She followed
him to New York, she hurt him in Boston. Oh
my god, he blew her mind. She wants to figure
out the right thing to do. And she said what
can I do? And he said nothing? And it was devastating.
Now he grew to regret that. But I believe that

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if folk really want to know, we got to share
with him. That's why I wrote the book Tiers. We
cannot stop a sermon to white America because I believe
we got to talk about tough issues. Now. It doesn't
mean that it's going to be easy, Like you said,
when you're used to having a certain position, when you
hear buzzwords like white privilege, nor I'm not I don't
have white privilege. I'm just as poor. I struggle every

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day I get up and go to work. My god,
Jimmy Cricket, what are you talking about? Well, this is
what we mean. Even if you're not rich, if you
live in an American society that won't judge you automatically
because of the color of your skin. If you meet
a police person on the street and you live to
tell about it, that's a form of privilege that even
I like me with a PhD from Princeton, who's been

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accosted by the police more times than I can tell you,
who's been called bad words by the cops more than
I can tell you, is subject to I study too,
I did the right thing too. I worked hard too.
I went to school too. I got a PhD. Two.
I'm an ordained Baptist minister for forty one years too.
It doesn't make a difference. Some people judge me regardless

(01:07:25):
of what I have attained. So we've got to talk
about this honestly. In America, and many white brothers and
sisters are not talked to think about themselves as a race.
When when many white people hear race, they go, oh,
black or brown or Asian. No, white folk have a
race too. It's like men when we hear gender, oh,
we must be talking about women. No food. You got
a gender two and obviously a lot of times it's toxic,

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toxic masculinity. Men don't think about it. We have gender two.
So when many white brothers and sisters. Hear race, they
run away. Oh my god, it's going to be a
finger pointing note in my classes. I say, we got
to come to grips with what this nation has been.
We have to be open, we have to be honest,
and if we want to learn anything, it's gonna be difficult.
You can't learn algebra, a calculus without going through some

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tough times. And so if we're gonna learn about race
in America, we have to be informed. A lot of
people pop off at the mouth and have no idea
what they're talking about. They don't know what affirmative action
is when it began. They don't know what the civil
rights struggle has been. They quote Martin Luther King Junior,
but they haven't read all of his books. They don't
understand what his deeper significance is. So we've got to
bone up on the most serious issues of racial difference

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in America to make sure that white brothers and sisters
and others who would live together must understand what it means.
I can imagine. Look, I was at Princeton once, a
British white man who was the master of the college.
They have five divisions at Princeton of Undergraduate Living, and
they called them masters. I was an assistant master, you know.

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I was getting off on that noll. Yeah, the assistants
and so assistant Master Mike Dyson, Baby, I made it,
Mama Live, moving on up to the east side. I'm
a man. Oh. The thing is is that one day
I'm with the Master, the white guy, very smart British
physicist who taught it Princeton, and the police stop him

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and he's giving them the one for mother blank blank
blank god, and I'm ducking, Oh my god, they're gonna
kill this man. And then I said, no, they're not,
because he's got the right skin for protection in this situation.
Or about two years ago, I'm here in Washington, DC
at Ben's Chili Bowl out at four thirty in the morning.

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I do sociological research for Baccanalia at clubs, so here
I was out one night at four thirty and this
young white kid is cussing the piece out, you son
of a blank blank blank, and going on, and I said,
oh my god, they're gonna hurt this kid. And then
the policeman picks up the phone, calls a cab and says, son,

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you need to go home. That's what we're talking about.
We're just asking for common curtis indecency that you extend
to anybody that if you put your foot on somebody's
neck and you're a police person and they say I
can't breathe, you take it off. Why don't Why didn't
he take it off? A he thought he could get
away with it? Be because he did not see this

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as a fellow human being. The dehumanizing impulse that we
have often embraced in this country for somebody who's different,
and it's being amplified. Let's tell the truth in Washington,
d c. By a guy who has no idea about
what he's doing with his rhetoric, and when he does
have an ideal about what he's doing, he's stirring it up.
That's not your job as president. You're supposed to bring

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us together. You're supposed to make us understand what we
have in common, not trying to beat upon people when
there's looting, they're shooting. That's a white racist stuff from
nineteen sixty seven in Miami that he is reviving for now.
So my point is that when we tell the truth,
when we're honest with each other, when white brothers and
sisters genuinely want to know what to do and are

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willing to listen to all of us as we share
our experiences and our understanding of the problem in situation.
And by the way, there are many white people who
have written brilliantly and insightfully about these issues. Then we
will have the possibility of a better country. But if
you're just turning us on, well you missed a lot already.
H Doctor Michael Eric Dyson is here. And even though

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he is, his latest book is out called can You
Hear Me Now? The Inspiration, Wisdom and Insight of Michael
Eric Dyson. Uh, there's a book he's referring to over
and over called Tears We Cannot Stop, which is basically
coming from a very very very fun professor who happens
to be black, or he's a black man who happen

(01:11:42):
to be a professor. Which one would you rather best?
I can. I'll take it all, bro, I'll take it all.
Ye'll take it all. I came here with a brother,
That's what I was first. But then I became a professor.
And even when I was a kid in Detroit in
the hood, they say that's a smartly a boy, he
gonna be a professor. They were prophetic, and here I am.
I wish that he's a billionaire. Hey, you know what,

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even though the question may not be uh in the
same seems like it's in the same lane where we're going.
It does sort of answer some questions. Tell everyone, Michael,
what you do for a living? I think what you
how you tell us what you do for a living
really makes a lot of sense here, yes, sir, well
look uh, as I said, I've been a minister now
for forty one years. I'm a college professor. I didn't

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start start college until I was twenty one. I was
a teen father, right I want. I got a big
scholarship out to a nice suburban white school. I'd never
gone to school with white folks ever in my life,
and here I am in school with Steven Spielberg's brother
and one of the top ten richest men in America,
and in the classes of I'm like, man, it just
was mind blowing. Got kicked out of that school, went
back and graduated from night school. I don't even know

(01:12:49):
if they have that. Now, got my my geed diploma,
and then um, uh you know, got a woman pregnant
and married her. I ain't said it was a shotgun wedding,
but a revolver was in the room. And then you know,
got married, got a divorced twenty one years old. I
got a son. I gotta do something better. I got
to provide him a better life. So I went to

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Knoxville College, a historically black college down in Knoxville, Tennessee,
studied their transferred to a Southern Baptist school, a white
school called Carson Newman, got a bachelor's degree, then went
on to Princeton to get a master's and PhD in religion, philosophy,
and ethics. And I've been teaching ever since. At Hartford
Seminary in eighty eight, Chicago Theological Seminary eighty nine. Ninety two.

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I went to Brown and Talk for two years, then
the University of North Carolina Chapel Hill for three. Then
I went to Columbia University for two years, to DePaul
for three, then University of Pennsylvania for five, and now
I've been at Georgetown for thirteen years. So I've been
trying to raise the consciousness, sparked the interests of young people,

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and I teach a lot of hip hop music. I
teach a class on jay Z, and I talked to him.
They say, who is this old man coming in here?
I said, when the rims in the system ain't no telling,
Will I love them? Will I dis them? That's what
they'd be yelling. I'm a by blood, not relay shown.
Y'all still chase something. Yeah, I got lyrics. I can
drop serious lyrics, But can you get on my side?

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Can you understand what I'm talking about? So I've been
trying to bridge the gulf between older and younger, between
white and black, and brown and red and yellow in
this country, trying to forge connections, make people think, make
them uncomfortable. I make young white people uncomfortable because I'm
trying to challenge some of the beliefs that they have inherited.
I make young people of color uncomfortable sometimes because I'm

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trying to cancel I'm trying to challenge cancel culture. I'm
trying to make us think seriously and over the long
haul about who we are as America. And so when
they're writing my classes up, they say, boys, a lot
of smart stuff going on. But why is he talking
about jay Z and Kendrick Lamar and Beyonce and not
talking about James Joyce. I can tell about James Joyce too.
I can about Gray's elogen of courtyard, full media, gym

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of purist ray, serene, the dark, unfeathered shaves of ocean,
bear full million flowers to blush unseen and waste the
sweetness on the desert air. They're not gonna talk about
Snoop falling back on that aight with the hell of
five Gates. Get Yona mic like an old betchakla Greens.
That's what we do. You know what, Gandhi is a
question for you. But before, before you go to her

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very important question, you say you love making people uncomfortable.
I gotta I don't be mad when I tell you this.
You're making me very comfortable today, and I'm just I
just gotta say, oh my god, God, I gotta go. Yeah,
you know you're you're obviously you're kind of failing today.
Obviously having you here is awesome, Gandhi, you go right ahead, Okay.
So obviously processing all of this, everybody's at a different

(01:15:39):
place in their processing of it. So for the people
who are saying, yes, I understand this, I see that
there's racism and there needs to be a change. What's
the next step from here after you understand it and
you accept it, what do you do then to take action?
That's a great question. You gotta put it into action.
You gotta you gotta challenge yourself. At the end of
my book, and I hate to be self promoting here,
but at the end of years, we cannot stop. I

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have an entire chapter of stuff that white brothers and
sisters can do. You know, a ten protest. We see
that's going on now, But okay, you just don't be
messing up stuff with the black people who are left behind.
And then we go to jail, and you said, I
was down there with the black people. Let's be a
little bit more balanced there. I talk about reading, I
talk about being self critical. I talk about individual reparations accounts. Iras.

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You ain't gotta wait for the government to tell you,
as white people who have of means to do something.
And I get so many letters from white people saying, man,
I read that chapter, and now I bought twenty computers
for black kids in the local school who don't have it. Right,
you can be creative about how to address it. The
government cannot and will not do everything we need systematic

(01:16:42):
and social and structural change. But the everyday thing that
people can do. Change your mind, change your heart, change
your outlook. Challenge yourself. Go to a black church. If
you just go to white churches and be uncomfortable, imagine
how black people feel when they go to white spaces
all the time. Go somewhere where you are not the majority,
and understand what that means. Get a visceral sense of

(01:17:04):
what it means to be the other, and then understand
as Americans what we are doing to try to bridge
those gaps and come together. So now that you know it,
you got to show it. You got to embody it,
and you got to change your mind. And when you
change your mind, you change your practice. As the great Clinton,
not Bill, but George Clinton said, free your mind and

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you're behind, will follow there you go by, Michael, I
know you've got a very busy schedule today because this
is you, this is your super Bowl man, because you
are so needed and so welcome. Before you leave, though,
what do you tell people, we're white kids, what it's
like to be black from your perspective? Right? I tell

(01:17:47):
them that if you imagine doing everything you're supposed to do,
working as hard as you can, and it still makes
no difference that no matter who you are, that some
people refuse to acknowledge your humanity and you got to
work extra hard just to get the ordinary stuff. Should
the killers of Armored Arbory Amad Aubrey down in Georgia

(01:18:12):
run free for a month before they're even taken into
to jail into custody. Um, of course not. But so
often Black people are made to be grateful for things
that should be a floor, and we treat them like
a ceiling. This is the mountaintop you arrived. We arrested
the person who murdered you. You should do that right

(01:18:34):
we you know, don't call the police on me. When
I go to Starbucks. People follow me around and saying
he can't afford that. Okay, that part may be true,
but you don't know that. You don't know that I
can afford it or not. I painted my green card
American Express black last night. I got a black card
right now. The point is that we've got to be
able to do that. CNN is calling me now, so

(01:18:55):
they're trying to get me on, but look, hand me
back on. I want to hang out with y'all. Michael,
thank you so much have the best day ever. We'll
we'll remind everyone who you are and everything as you
head over to CNN. Wait, don't tell them where you're going.
They're gonna leave us and go to CNN. Don't do it, no, no,
take money right here. This is the man, all right, Michael,
thank you very much. Have a beautiful day to day. Okay,

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take here doctor Michael Eric Dyson. That's doctor Michael Eric Dyson.
He has many books and of course many resources from
him online and by the way, he was in our
zoom room. We recorded it and we would be posting
that as well. Thank you so much for listening today.
It's a very special, special day. We have three things
from Gandhi. Let's get into those three things right now. Gandhi,
what is going on? All right? I think we all

(01:19:39):
know what's going on. We've seen a lot of it.
This weekend. America was on fire and troops have arrived
following unruly demonstrations. All weekend and just about every major
metro area in the country there were protests to mark
the murder of George Floyd, which took place a week ago. Today,
the vast majority of the demonstrations were peaceful. There were
some hot zones that resulted in the National Guard being

(01:19:59):
called out. At press time, military boots were on the
ground in fifteen states and in Washington, DC. At least
twenty five cities are under curfew, and there's a lot
of debate as to who the violent agitators are. Numerous
city officials say the worst offenders were from outside the
city or state where the worst riots and lootings have occurred.
The attorney general for the family of George Floyd says

(01:20:19):
that he's unclear. Well, I'm sorry, not the attorney general.
The attorney for the family of George Floyd says that
he's unclear why the police officer accused of his murder
isn't facing more severe charges, saying that there was intent
because he refused to get off George Floyd once he
became unresponsive. The former officer is facing third degree murder
and second degree manslaughter charges. Folks are also baffled that

(01:20:40):
the other three officers at the scene are not facing
charges right now, and as multiple reports also roll in
about the press getting injured while covering protests, Governor Tim
Waltz is unhappy and wants to change that as well.
On Sunday, he apologized and took responsibility for some press
members being injured, even though it's not his fault. In particular,
he is saying the Minnesota Department of Public Safety wants

(01:21:00):
journalists to know, please wear credentials if you have anything
to do with the press, make sure those credentials are
seen from four feet away because it's hard to tell
who's who, and lots of people are getting wrapped up
and everything that's going on right now. And those are
your three things. Thank you, Goddy. Danielle. I've got to
go to you a burnie. Question of the day is
Kylie Jenner of she a billionaire agan as of right now,

(01:21:22):
she's still not worth as much as she thought. Oh
my gosh, how on that? Yeah, she's like four hundred
millions something like that. Keep on because that is the
important issue of the day. We need to take a break.
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Imagine a world where the only fires we have aren't
burning down buildings and police cruisers, but they're on Daniel
stove boiling some pasta on a fireplace. The only fires
we need maybe burning the occasional joint here and there.
Imagine a world where the only gun shooting is actually

(01:22:25):
those NERF guns that Gandhi and her boyfriend are using
on each other. Imagine that. Imagine a world where the
only time you see a man holding down another man
on the ground, it's on a football field and it's
it's called a tackle. You know, it's on Monday night
football those that's the world we're looking forward. Look, this
show has enjoyed tremendous success. We designed it to be

(01:22:47):
a place where listeners could go for twenty minutes or
an hour to get away from the negative and forget
about the traffic and the bad boss and the chemotherapy
and the politics. But now we've learned of late that
it's become the show to go to to get away
from what's important. And that's where I feel like I
have failed. I have failed you, and I just want
you to have a detour around the fact that I

(01:23:10):
wanted I wanted you to have a detour around the
fact that George Floyd was murdered by a cop. A
black man was murdered by a cop in Minneapolis, A
murdered by a man who who swore to protect him,
and I thought that's what I needed to do. Then
we look back at all the murders that we've reported

(01:23:30):
and we were like, oh, oh, no, another another black
person's died, and it makes us very sad, and then
we move on. It's like cancer, you know, it's something
we all grew up hearing about. In heart attacks, it's
you know, racism. These are racism, cancer, heart attacks, three
things we all just grew up hearing. They made us sad.
We appreciated the fact that they were not right and
not good, but then we just picked up and carried on.

(01:23:55):
But as far as cancer and heart attacks go, we
can flatten those curves with exercise and better eating and
healthier lifestyle. I wish I could go to the doctor
and say, hey, I'm a racist, can you and it's
in my brain. Can you bypass the racism in my heart?
How about that? Bypass the racism in my heart? Or

(01:24:16):
can you find a way in my brain to just,
you know, move around the racism. You know, it'd be
nice if doctors could put a flattening on that curve
as well. So anyway, here we are today doing a
very special show, and we've been watching the text messages.
They're saying a lot of things. One thing were many
things we're hearing from people is they don't like this.
It makes them uncomfortable. They want to be entertained today.

(01:24:38):
And I just could not wake up, None of us
on this show could wake up and not do this
show today. What do you want us to do? You know,
I don't even know why I'm saying anything, because if
the people who don't like it are probably not listening anyway,
all right, but here we are. What else are you
seeing on the text messages today? Straight names? We've seen.
I've seen a lot of things, uh, you know, coming

(01:25:00):
on the text messages, a lot of emotions. One of
the things that I've been seeing predominantly though, is not
understanding why people are causing property damage and and there's
been violence there that's one thing that people are very
concerned about. They they know that the message needs to
get out there. They just don't appreciate the fact that
some people are taking it to that level that is

(01:25:22):
violent and damaging. And I think that's a that's a
huge point a lot of people are making this morning
on text and on phone calls. I was reading the
news this morning here in New York, the New York Post.
They're talking about how in Soho, just a few blocks
away from our our studios. Uh, there was a lot
of looting going on. But you know what, they weren't
out they're making a social message. They were in there.
They were at the Gucci store. Okay, they were at

(01:25:44):
the Fending store. They were they were they went shopping.
Is on Saturday night in Rodeo Drive. They cleaned out
the Alexander McQueen store. And I'm like that that's not
sending a message. That that's not social justice, that's a crime.
Well you're gonna so now what this means is you're
gonna have a lot of bad people wearing really great clothing.
That's really are these are businesses and you know, a

(01:26:08):
Gucci aside, there are so many mom and pop businesses
that are being destroyed. Did you see the story about
the elderly couple that has those They have a business
up in Rochester and they were beaten by some thugs.
They're like, just trying to make a living, you know, Yeah,
I don't know. I saw the guy in Dallas who
tried to who tried to save his own business and
they beat him almost to death. He was laying in

(01:26:29):
the road unconscious. He did not die, but ready did
not die. But that's just another one. He was trying
to protect what he had, and all he had was
his business. What's that, Gandhi? The people who are doing
this personally, it's making me insane because it's really detracting
from the original message of what needs to be heard
and what is going on in the action that needs
to be taken to get it done. And just like
everybody says nobody hates a bad cop like a good cop,

(01:26:52):
I think nobody hates the looters like a good peaceful
protester who's trying to get a message across. And it's
not helping the community. It's not helping anybody. There's nothing
that's being helped by destroying this kind of stuff. If
The problem is we haven't been heard. We have people's
attention now, and now is the time to not do
those things, not go shopping, because it's an opportunity at

(01:27:14):
a moment where the world is crying reading your Twitter.
Just heard Michael Dyson on Elvis Durrant show. As I
listened to what he had to say, I ordered a
copy of his book tire As We Cannot Stop, a
sermon to wide America. He talked about constructive things that I,
as a white person, can do, and I want to
do these things. I want to help. Thank you Ali
for sending me that tweet. Look at that. We just

(01:27:34):
sold another book from Michael Hey, good hey to the
point of peaceful protesting turning into something they shouldn't turn into.
Killer Mike an excellent artist from Atlanta. Also, he has
that show in Netflix called Trigger Warning. He was actually

(01:27:55):
invited to speak at the mayor's press conference and he
talked out how much he loves the city of Atlanta,
and if you live in Atlanta, you know what he's
about to say. But if you don't, he could be
talking about your love you have for your city and
how it's crushing you to see what's going on here is.
We're not gonna play the whole thing. It's very long,
but I want I want to play some of this.
I want you to hear his passion. This is killer

(01:28:16):
Mike from Atlanta. I didn't want to come and I
don't want to be here. I'm the son of an
Atlanta City Police officer. Oh my cousin is Atlanta City
police officer, and my other cousini's point police officer. And

(01:28:37):
I got a lot of love and respect for police officers,
down to the original eight police officers in Atlanta that,
even after becoming police, had to dress in a YMCA
because white officers didn't want to get dressed. And here
we are, eighty years later. I watched a white officer

(01:28:58):
assassination a black man, and I know that tore your
heart out and I know it's crippling. And I have
nothing positive to say in this moment because I don't
want to be here, but I'm responsible to be here
because it wasn't just doctor King and people dressed nicely

(01:29:24):
who marched and protested to progress this city. In so
many other cities, it was people like my grandmother, people
like my aunts and uncles who were members of SCLC
and NAACP, and in particular Reverend James Orange, Missus Alice Johnson,
and Reverend Love who we just lost last year. So

(01:29:46):
I'm duty bound to be here to simply say that
it is your duty not to burn your own house
down for anger with an enemy. It is your duty
to fortify your own house so that you may be
a house of refuge in times of organization. And now

(01:30:06):
is the time to plot, plan, strategize, organize, and mobilize.
It is time to beat up prosecutors you don't like
it devoting booth. It is time to hold maorial offices accountable,
chiefs and deputy chiefs. Atlanta is not perfect, but we're

(01:30:27):
a lot better than we ever were, and we're a
lot better than cities are. I'm mad as hell. I
woke up wanting to see the world burned down yesterday,
but some tired seeing black men die. He casually put
his knee on a human being's neck for nine minutes

(01:30:49):
as he died like a zebra in the clutch of
a lion's jaw. And we watch it like murder porn,
over and over again. So that's why children are burning
to the ground. They don't know what else to do,
And it is the responsibility of us to make this better.

(01:31:09):
Right now, we don't want to see one officer charge.
We want to see four officers prosecuted and sentenced. We
don't want to see targets burning. We want to see
the system that sets up for systemic racism burned to
the ground. And as I sit here in Georgia, Thomas Stevens, Georgia,

(01:31:33):
former vice president of the Confederacy white Man, said that law,
fundamental law, stated that whites were naturally the superior race,
and the Confederacy was built on a cornerstone. It's called
a cornerstone speech. He looking up the cornerstone speech that
blacks would always be subordinate. That officer believed that speech

(01:31:55):
because he killed that man like an animal. In this city,
officers have done horrendous things, and they have been prosecuted.
This city's cut different. In this city, you can find
over fifty restaurants owned by black women. I didn't say minority,
and I didn't say women of color. So after you're

(01:32:17):
burned down your own home, what do you have left?
But char and ash CNN TED did a great thing.
I love CNN, I love Cartoon Network, but I'd like
to say to CNN right now, karmas a mother, Stop
feeding fear and anger every day. Stop making people feel

(01:32:37):
so fearful, Give them hope. I'm glad they only took
down a sign and defaced the building, and they're not
killing human beings like that policeman did. I'm glad that
they only destroyed some brick and martyr and they didn't
rip a father from a son. They didn't rip a
son from a mother like the policeman did. When a

(01:32:58):
man yells for his mother and to rest in pain
and she's dead, kid is essentially yelling, please, God, don't
let it happen to me, and we watch that. So
my question for us on the other side of this
camera is, after it burns, will we be left with
charge or will be rise like a phoenix out of
the ashes that Atlanta has always done. Will we use

(01:33:18):
this as a moment to say that we will not
do what other cities have done, and in fact, we
will get better than we've been. We got good enough
to destroy cash buns. You don't have to worry about
going to jail for some petty. We got smart enough
to decriminalize marijuana. How smart are we gonna be in
the next fifteen or twenty years to keep us ahead
of this curve, so that much like when South Africa

(01:33:40):
suffered apartheid, you had Andy and other politicians that could
make sure that Atlanta said, Coca Cola, we love you,
but if you don't pull out of South Africa, we're
gonna leave. We're gonna going to drink Coca Cola anymore.
And Coca Cola jumped on the side and apartheid ended.
So we have an opportunity now. Because I'm mad, I
don't have any good vice, but what I can tell
you is that if you sit in your homes tonight

(01:34:02):
instead of burning your home to the ground, you will
have time to properly plot, plan, strategize, and organize and
mobilize an effective way. And two of the most effective
ways is first taking your butt to the computer and
making sure you feel out the senses so that people
know who you are and where you are. The next
thing is making sure you exercise your political bully power

(01:34:23):
and going to local elections and beating up the politicians
that you don't like. You got to prosecutor, sent your
pocket to jail, and you know it was put a
new prosecutor in there. Now's your election to do it.
You want a different senator that's more progressive that proch
Mayor wanted through, Now's the time to do that. But
it is not time to burn down your own home.
There you go, killer Mike. Here's here's the thing about that.

(01:34:48):
Listen to how proud he is if this city, and
he even gives props to the city, Atlanta is a
different city. I lived there for about a year and
I learned a lot about that. I wish I could
have stayed longer, but they fired me. But it's another story.
He talks about how you know Coca Cola is the
Coca Cola, by the way, owns Atlanta, And so people

(01:35:09):
went to the company and by the way, when I
live there, if you if you were caught drinking a pepsi,
they would take you to jail. I swear to here,
Coca Cola owns Atlanta. And they said, Coca Cola, if
you don't pull out of after South Africa, whether there's
a lot of racial tension, a lot of racial problems
and killing, then we're not going to support you anymore.
And they did it. You know that's that those are
the big changes. Those are like big boy changes, the

(01:35:31):
stuff that we wish we could all do. So we've
got to make those big changes in our own speed,
at our own rate and at the way we can
do it. Thank you, Killer Mike, and hey Garrett, thanks
for pulling that sound and editing out to the We
had to edit because it's the FCC listening, So thank
you for doing that. Not a problem, and if you
get a chance, please go watch the full thing. Does
anyone here want to talk about what Killer Mike has

(01:35:52):
talked about? Are we are we cool? Yeah? Gone? You
hear me now? Okay? Um? I love Killer Mike. When
I saw what he said, I felt like, Wow, that's
exactly what I'm trying to get across. That's exactly the
message I'm trying to say. And sometimes it feels so
good just to hear it come from another person, especially
somebody who's so respected in that community. And I think

(01:36:14):
he's saying exactly what a lot of people are feeling
right now. I like that. Right. Let's get into sound
with Garrett. He's got a lot of stuff today. Garrett,
where do you want to start? What do you have?
You want to start with the Cuomos they had a
lot to say over the weekend. You're gonna start, give me,
give me one Cuomo, give me your favorite Cuomo. Let's

(01:36:34):
start with Governor Andrew Cuomo. He was speaking about the
fact that nothing has changed about racism over the last
thirty years. Seen this from Rodney King forward. I mean
I was there for Imadu Diallo. I was there for
having Alima, and then you have Eric Garner and then

(01:36:55):
you have George Floyd. It's the same case. Just change
a couple of facts. It's the same exact situation. It's
been thirty years since Rodney King. I'm gonna do Diallo
in New York reported one a pullit surprise for the reporting. Wow,

(01:37:21):
great job by journalists, great job showing the injustice and
what happened? What was the resolution? Where was the progress?
Eric Garner, No, I'm with the protesters, Thank you very much.
Now we got from his press conference on Saturday. Okay, good?

(01:37:45):
And then do you want to do his brother or
we we we should now we'll do him in the
bonus hour. Um, all right, let's talk about SpaceX. It
got up off the ground over the weekend, and uh,
we have if I'm pretty sure Froggy got to see it.
We got to hear what it sounded like when they
took off three two zero Ignition flipt up the Falcon

(01:38:11):
line and Green Dragon by Jack got bet fot a dog. Wow.
Don't you wish you were on that rocket with him?
It was my favorite meme of the whole weekend. This said,
those two astronauts that left Earth today, they had a
good idea. So Frog, you went down, You went down
to the bridge and watched the whole thing. How was

(01:38:32):
that experience for you? And were you socially distancing and
being a good boy? We were not socially distancing. Everybody
was standing on the bridge because there were so many
people trying to fit on the bridge watching it. But
we were all looking on the horizon, and then all
of a sudden, somebody saying, no, no, look above us,
because the Earth is obviously round, and the Earth is
not flat, and as some people think it is, the
Earth is round. And so it started going. It was
more at that point above us, more than it was

(01:38:53):
out in the horizon. But you could just see the
little rocket plume going in the sky. It was really,
really super cool and it was cool on set Saturday,
after everything that had happened on Friday night, it was
cool on Saturday for there to be a moment of
people coming together and being happy for a few minutes
watching this, I love that well. Was I the only
one who was sitting here as they were launching, going,
please do not go wrong? Know, no, we couldn't be. Yeah.

(01:39:22):
I just feel like the whole way, the whole year
has been going, I now expect everything to go wrong.
So I was watching it with like my eyes half covered,
like I would watch a scary movie, like please please,
please please please. Okay, Hey, Danielle, what Gandhi just said
is that do you feel that sometimes too, Like you
feel like everything's gonna go wrong? Oh? This year? Oh yeah,
this is it. This is the year the like whatever

(01:39:44):
anyone tries, it's just that's it. Right. But you know what,
but don't you Okay, let me ask you a question.
And Danielle, for obvious reasons, losing your father, you could
quickly answer this, but I had to stop and think.
I remember us saying, God, I can't wait till twenty
nineteen is over. This year sucks. Oh yeah, wait a
minute happening, Jesus end. I had a great year up

(01:40:10):
until around the middle of October of last year, and
then crap hit the bed and it hasn't really gotten better.
So there you go. Yes, Dray, I can honestly say
I almost died twice last year. This year has been
worse than last year. I spent over a month in

(01:40:32):
the hospital. Last year I almost died twice. This year
is still worse than last year. Wait, maybe my son
President and I are so afraid that something's still going
to happen to Nate because how crappy this year has been.
In our prayers every night we still say please take
care of Nate night. We all pray for n But

(01:40:56):
I tell you, but watching watching SpaceX in the launch,
it was just God, this is great. Just for a moment,
it's awesome. But can you imagine when they arrived at
the the space station. Can you imagine being in there
and you hear this hello, be quiet. I don't want

(01:41:17):
them to know where home. I don't know who they
are light anyway? Uh yeah, is this trick or treat?
What is going on? Back to sound with Garrett? Yes, Garrett,
that that's that's it right now, That's all I got
for Oh no, Well, that's a lot. That's a lot
of good stuff. Thank you, Garrett. What are you having
for breakfast with the kids today, Oh, it's it's just
gonna be bagels. It's it's been a long weekend, so

(01:41:37):
just bagels. Sorry, bagels are good. I know, but I
hope to bagels. I have to justify it to a
four year old and a two year old. They're like,
we've been getting we've been getting fed well for the
last like seventy days, and you're giving us just bagels.
So there you go. Yeah, I'm sure they'll love them.
Thank you, Garrett, You're a good American. Thank you. We're
gonna take a break. We'll be back after this gets

(01:41:59):
call us two zero one story in the morning show. Yeah,
there's a bonus if you call one eight hundred and
two for two zero one hundred straight. Nate's gonna flirt
with you. Oh, Nate, I just noticed that Bonnie was
on hold thirty minutes ago. Is she still on hold? No,
I'm gonna call her back later and we have a

(01:42:20):
little bit more time. Let me know. I'm sorry, it
just you know, Yeah, No, the day's not over. Day's
not over. We've lost a lot of listeners today, Guys,
we got work to do. Yeah, I think it happens.
I mean, I know I've been kind of vocal about things,
and I know I've lost Instagram followers, and I think

(01:42:40):
that's just part of part of what speaking your mind
comes with. It is what it is. Yeah, you know, so,
so I gotta think about it this way. It's either
we either we you know, keep it simple and keep
it easy and more people will be okay and non offended,

(01:43:01):
or we can actually come in here and do what
our conscience told us we had to do today. And
you know what, here's my question, and I can't ask
anyone because they've turned us off. My question would be, okay,
you have your own reason for not wanting to hear
our show today. What is that Like? If I was like, oh,
I want to turn this off, I would need to say, well,

(01:43:22):
wait a minute, why do I need to turn it off?
Let's explore that what's going on there? You know, maybe
people just people do need a little relief from the news,
you know what, and what Killer Mike was saying about
ce Ann let me tell you they you know, they're
really great and Fox News too, They're both really great
at finding the stories that are gonna make you, gonna

(01:43:44):
make you go, oh my god. But it's story after
story after story after story of oh my god, and
then after a while you're like, oh my god, this
is this is too much. So maybe people are expecting
and needing for us to come in here today and
play nice and play safe and be nice and fair
on the playground, and we can't do that today. Yeah, gandhi,

(01:44:05):
what do you think. I think we've been seeing on
the TV a lot of the rioting and the destruction
and all the bad stuff that's going on. I think
we need to see a lot more of which I
have been seeing, and I'm seeking it out of police
and protesters coming together and having beautiful moments of police
marching with them, of the guy at Flint who said,
let's turn this into a parade, let's not make it
a riot, cops taking a knee with them, like, there

(01:44:27):
are a lot of those beautiful moments. Protesters protecting a
police officer who got separated from everybody. There are those moments,
and I wish we could see that and focus on
that more than the bad stuff that's going on. Yeah,
that doesn't get their ratings, like they when they show
the rioting and the looting and the buildings burning, that's
what they want to show versus there are peaceful protests
going on, and I know here in Jacksonville we had

(01:44:50):
a peaceful protest on Saturday night. It started out, there
were no problems whatsoever. As the peaceful protests started ending,
a few of them hung around and then it turned violent.
And that's not what it was about. It was peaceful.
It was the ones that are beautiful and the ones
that like to me like, that's the ones I want

(01:45:10):
to listen to, and that's the ones that are getting
my attention because I'm like, wow, look at the message
that they're sending. This is such a positive message and
they want to be heard like the other negative stuff.
I'm sorry, but I'm turning that off. I don't want
to see you doing that nasty stuff. I'm sorry, that's
that I'm not going to listen to that. I need
to assume. Danielle Gandhi Froggy Scary straighten everyone that when

(01:45:35):
you see violence erupting, it's either a from the boiling
point hit and there's rage and you're just sick and
tired of this whole thing. But also some of this,
you know, some of this is going on conveniently in
front of the Apple store. Yeah, yes, what are you

(01:45:55):
doing with that? Yeah? In in Soho, just above our
studios and downtown Manhattan. You know, it happened right there
at the Nike store. And I thought that was very
very interesting. Yeah. Anyway, uh, please please, let's be safe,
and let's appreciate the fact that you know, there are some,
there are many, there are many peaceful protests out there.

(01:46:15):
And I would love to see CNN and Fox News all.
I would love to see them turn those cameras on.
Hey something weird. Saturday night, while the Fairfax area of
Los Angeles was it was out of control. They I mean,
I think like eleven cop cars at once were all
on fire, like within a two block radius. It was insane.
And I looked standing on one of the cop cars.

(01:46:39):
Standing up on the cop car. It was young Blood.
Did you see him right? You tested me and you're like,
I think young Blood is on a cop car right now.
I think it took m I was like, what I know,
I did, and then we checked his social media feed
and he was there. Yeah, sure enough, there's young Blood
standing on a cop car Hey, Nate, I gotta go
to you for a second. Nate is taking calls and

(01:46:59):
talking to people, and you know, he's actually helped redirect
a show into the direction where callers are asking to go.
And what's another thing you're seeing and hearing a lot
of One of the things I'm seeing is that the
message that not all cops are bad. I think this
is really kind of boiling into you know, you know,
us versus the cops, and it's not that way. The

(01:47:20):
vast majority, in my opinion and a lot of the callers,
is that a lot of these cops have taken oades
to protect, to serve and protect, not to discriminate, and
not to harass, and to take advantage of the power
that they have. And I really feel like that needs
to be made. That point needs to be made is
that I've talked to a lot of moms this morning

(01:47:41):
that they're worried for their sons and their daughters that
are out there just trying to protect people and keep
them safe. And I think that maybe getting lost. I know,
we have a lot of police officers that listen to
the show and that they're fans and they're doing the
right thing. I think there's a lot of great police
officers out there, and unfortunately some of those ones, like
last week, that just ruin it for all of them,

(01:48:02):
and it makes some jobs so much harder. Right, Brodie's
reminding us that many officers have taken to TikTok to
say that they are outraged as well by bad cops,
and they love serving, they love protecting. You know, you know,
I know this, this meme has been out over and over,
but it's bad cops are bad for good cops, and

(01:48:23):
it's just such an easy concept. Yes, Frog, That's exactly
what I was going to say, is that the fact
that a good police officer hates nothing more than a
bad police officer because it gives them a bad name.
And so it's not all police officers act this way.
This one guy and the other three guys who stood
by and did nothing while he was doing this, they
are all accountable, and so those guys do not represent

(01:48:47):
all police officers across the United States. Right, Hey, you know, uh,
let me be a good gay for just a second.
This is the beginning of Pride month. It's June, you know,
in our Pride parade's gone. You know, all the Agewalk
New York gone. And you know, we're trying to come
up with a virtual replacements, which is not the same.

(01:49:08):
But we'll do our best. I think we have a
great idea here at iHeart with our friends at PNG.
I'll explain that later. But we look back at Stonewall.
Those were riots. That wasn't a stone, That wasn't a
peaceful Stonewall march. That wasn't the demonstration. That was the
Stonewall riots, plain and simple and what it was. It

(01:49:28):
was a minority of a minority group, drag queens, gays
who were just beaten down by the cops every night.
They were taking people to jail every night. And Uncle
Johnny was a part of it. He remembers it some
of it. They were taking you to jail just because
you were dancing with someone of the same sex. They
would take you to jail. If you were sitting at

(01:49:49):
a bar and you turned and faced each other and talked,
because they knew you were gay, they would arrest you.
And they just got fed up. They burned it down.
Of course, the Stonewall is in a very concentrated part
of Greenwich Village in New York City. Uh Sheridan Square. Uh,
what's happening these nights? Now? It's every city almost every city,
major city USA. But those Stonewall riots got us to

(01:50:13):
a point where I don't know we could have achieved
this without it. So I don't want to be a
hypocrite and sit sit here and say, I don't know
what to say. I'm torn. I don't want anyone's property
burned down. I don't want to see that. I don't
want to see it. But I'm just looking at history
and I'm not gonna give an opinion other than that.

(01:50:35):
But it's Pride Month. Thank you, smiling Stevens for reminding
us of that. Uh yeah, Froggy, did you want to
say something? No? No? Oh good, I'm good. Hey, So
I finally we finally started, don't I know, I'm late
to the party. We finally started? Uh Season one of
uh Better Off Dead? Is it better off Dead? Dead?

(01:50:57):
To me? It's a dead show dead to me with
Christina Applegate. What a great show. This thing is so
well written. And we we were up till eleven forty five.
I couldn't we we were all in Netflix. They got
us hooked in Benji, have you seen her? My mom's
been My mom's been trying to get me to watch it,

(01:51:17):
and she's like, it's so good, like I have to
finish hoarding. I just I just said, it's the latest
scene of hoarding, and now I'm ready to move on.
So maybe tonight we'll start that. Maybe on Friday night.
I took your advice on Friday night and watched the
wrong Missy. Oh my god, is that hilarious? Yeah? I

(01:51:42):
laughed from start to finish. I mean it is. I mean, listen,
it is. If you want high quality, like something to
think about, it is not. But if you just want
stupidity and funny, it is. Start to finish, it's so funny,
no long good, very straight, and eight is informing me
we need to take a break. We'll be back right
after this. This is Elvis Durrand in The Morning Show.

(01:52:11):
Whoever you meet in life, black, brown, white, wish for
them to matter more than you? Is that an unpopular
thing to say? Probably if you, if you already know
that you matter enough, wish for others to matter more.

(01:52:33):
If you're out there struggling to find your dream, I
get it. Don't do that, You're okay, Do whatever you
can to matter more. I get that you deserve it.
We all deserve it. That's the point. We all deserve.
We all deserve what all of us have. Who are
doing doing well, we're okay. But if you come across

(01:52:53):
someone who needs to feel like they matter, don't go
for equality with them, go to may them. He say, hey,
matter more? Tell me about you? What are you going through?
How you doing? And there you haven't. We got to
get into the three things we need to know. Because
Gondh's jumping up and down, she has to tell Ah,

(01:53:16):
there's so much going on. Well, we've been talking about
a lot of it. Yes, the story from Camden. You Camden,
New Jersey. I know you're listening to us across the bridge.
Thank you for listening to us. While Philly had just
an awful, awful beating last night, the night was just rough.
Yesterday during peaceful protests in Camden, New Jersey, the cops

(01:53:39):
brought out hot dogs and hamburgers and they were playing
basketball with the kids, and I was like, God, where
was the I hope there was a camera there to
catch that. That's what I would love to see. All Right,
I apologize, gone, you go right ahead, What are you
have going on Hi. All right, Well, there was a
lot of protesting over the weekend as demands for justice
continue over the death of George Floyd, which happened a

(01:53:59):
week ago to day. While the majority of these protests
were peaceful, there were certain hot zones where looting in
violence erupted. Officials from those areas believe that the perpetrators
actually came in from other regions strictly to cause havoc.
At press time, military boots were on the ground in
fifteen states and Washington, DC. At least twenty five cities
are now under curfew. And Elvis just mentioned this. But

(01:54:20):
June is Pride month, and the coronavirus pandemic is still
going strong. It's taking a toll on hundreds of events.
More than four hundred and seventy five Pride events across
the US have already been canceled or postponed, obviously due
to fears of spreading COVID nineteen, which has now killed
more than one hundred and three thousand Americans. And finally,
earlier we mentioned that a lot of police officers were

(01:54:40):
using TikTok to send messages of support. But I don't
know if you guys saw TikTok got in a little
bit of trouble this weekend. Now they're catching a lot
of heat after users noticed that the hashtags black Lives
Matter and George Floyd were unable to be tagged and
videos were unable to be viewed. The company's response was
that a random glitch was responsible for the censorship, but
a lot of TikTok ers are still unhappy about that

(01:55:01):
today and voicing their concern. And those are your three things.
By the way, we had such an incredible visit with
doctor Michael E. Dyson. He was on about an hour
and a half ago. I guess I don't even know
what day it is, and it was so empowering. I
want you to listen to it. It's up now at
Elvis Durand dot com. Alie Gold, thank you for getting

(01:55:22):
that up. That the full interview right now. I we'll
have it also on our other social later, but Elvis
Durand dot com right now for our interview with doctor Dyson. Michael,
you were great. Let's take a break. We'll be back
after this. Hiring is challenging, but there is a place
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(01:55:43):
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Elvis durand Elvis durand phone tap. Here we go, Garrett
phone tapped Uncle Johnny. All right, set it up? What happened?
All right? So we got an e mail from our listener, Christina,
who told us her uncle Craig has a great talent.

(01:56:04):
He thinks he sounds like Uncle Johnny, to the point
where Craig has gone out to bars and people have
been giving him free drinks because they think he's Uncle Johnny. Wow.
So we decided to use Craig's talent and phone tap
our very own Uncle Johnny. He can't wait. Listen in
Hello zero, Hey Johnny is Garrett. I know I've just

(01:56:25):
gotten several emails about something that I thought you should
know about. Yeah, there's this guy that has been going
around claiming to be Uncle Johnny. Get out. You know,
he's causing some trouble. He got thrown out of a
bar for getting into a fight with a guy. He's
given you a bad name around town. All right, he said,
He said, he's gone to the monster before. I mean,
he's literally copying your life. Oh god, this is just

(01:56:47):
a bad look for us at the radio station. It
certainly is. But we don't need any of this. I mean,
I don't know. It's my reversation. He's ruining, I know.
And the interesting part is, so I decided to call him,
and he is telling me that he's Uncle Johnny, like
you know, you know what. I'll put you on hold
and you can listen in. But I want you to
hear what this guy sounds like. You know, he have
a hold on He doesn't know that I'm talking to you. So, hey,

(01:57:10):
Uncle Johnny, I'm sorry. Oh this was a little busy.
I'm sorry about that. Hello, lady, what going on? So
you're telling me that I should come out and have
a drink with you? Yes, And you know, I want
to get back into the studio and uh, you know,
I guess some at cocktails to make. Maybe we could
do it monday. You could have me back and we
could met something. Hello. Hello, hello, hollow Hello, would you

(01:57:34):
like to uh like me to come with you? This
is Uncle Johnny. Would you like me to come with you? No?
This is uncle No, No, John and you're talking to
the real one now no, no, no, hello hello he anyways,
you're not me? And I could tell you I could
dying to see you. Yes, I'll meet true. Yeah, where
do you want to meet you? And I could? You

(01:57:54):
could come out and sit mean, Cherry's on the bay
on Fire Island. I'll setch up with a beautiful drink. Yes,
Y's completely phonies. He's copying everything I do. What are
you crazy? So I'll get you to come over the
Fire Island? Are you cute? Ask alvits what to do
about this? I think that because you could trace the call.

(01:58:15):
If you can trace where the call is coming from,
we've had him online long enough. And then uh, and
then we'll notify the police that because it's ruining my reputation,
and and I could trace him. Now, what are you crazy? Well,
you're bullet cops. Is a copyright infringement. I got a
lot of money tied up in these T shirts? You know? Really? Yeah?

(01:58:35):
What are you bananics T shirts? I make a will
to have it. Listen to this guy he's saying, he's
trying to say his uncle Johnny. Ye. They say he
doesn't even sound like him. It's awful. Would I have
a tupay like this on if I wasn't. Uncle Johnny,
you can tell it's a tupay, can't you? All right? Crazy?
I think you cannot tell, Uncle Johnny see what I'm
talking about. Yes, Well, apparently we've got to get touch

(01:58:55):
with the police or something. I'm gonna call the cops
right now. I think you should. This is somebody. He's
gone all over the town impersonating me, and they've got
kicked out of Mars and things like this, and now
he's taking over my Hopeasana. What are you banannies? Horrible?
Oh my god, I don't know what to do. We're
going to get the police or something. We called some
of the listeners that have met them too, and they
said that he even tried to sell them drugs. Now,

(01:59:17):
this guy, listen, Hello, you buddy or whoever you're listen.
You're ruining my reputation. You're really starting to aggravate me. Now.
I don't want anybody selling drugs in my name, or
using my t shirts or anything else. Do you shut up?
Because if I see you up, break your head. You're
not going with me, buddy. Hell lady, I'm telling you
right now it's over nothing. It's ob what are you

(01:59:40):
a tough guy? I am a tough guy. Am I
hell of a lot tougher than you? Baby? You just
said no, don't. I'm not even going to play this
game with you. I'm not to do anymore. You're screwing
up Elvis Durands to his reputation, the radio and everybody
around town. I will hunt you down and I will
have you arrested. And you're try I have perpetrator fraud here.

(02:00:01):
I am not trying to perpetrate anything. I'm going to
perpetrate you. Pictures of me skinny dipping out in Palm
Springs a couple of weeks ago. I was like, well, Google,
are you following me on Twitter? What's the big deal?
Anybody could do that? Go listen, what are you talking about?
You're a fraud here? All right? I want to meet you.
I want to meet you now. I want to meet
you too. Where are you? Am I gonna know you?

(02:00:22):
Tell me where to meet you this afternoon? Well, tell
me where to meet you this afternoon. You're where I live?
Right by Madison Square Garden. You know what? Yes, well
he come over here then street from Madison Square I
live in Madison Square Garden. So come on over, come on,
come on straight there, you want to come on, spend
a picture. You can see me on YouTube making a

(02:00:42):
banana surprise like cool, weming on it. I'm gonna smack
you so hig. Your mother's gonna feel it. Hey, Uncle
Johnny bananas, you got phone tapped? Get that out? You're
going good night. I'm gonna kill you. Who is who
is my? Who's playing Uncle Johnny? That's Craig. He actually
has been getting free drinks at bars because people think

(02:01:03):
he's Uncle Johnny. Get out. That was a phone tap.
They phone tap me. But well, you listen, Uncle Johnny,
You've been a very good sport. And I'm saying, hell
is this guy bananna? Have an idea for a phone tab?
Go to Ellis Durand dot com. Click on the phone

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tab tab, tell us what you want to do. This
isontab was prerecorded. We permission granted by all party sties
the Elvis Durand phone tab. We're on Elvis Durand in
the morning show. Hiring is challenging, but there is a
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