Are You Afraid of Such Great Heights?

Ariel and Jonathan talk more horror movies, how some trailers have really weird songs attached to them, what season three of Schmigadoon/Schmicago should be called and much, much more.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:10):
Hey, everybody. Welcome to the large Ner John Collider Podcast,
the podcast that's all about the geeky things happening in
the world around us and how very excited we are
about them. I'm Ariel Caston, and with me, as always,
is the delightful Jonathan Strickland.

Speaker 2 (00:23):
Everything looks perfect from far away.

Speaker 1 (00:26):
Apparently today is not my day for getting references.

Speaker 2 (00:30):
Oh, because we we did this. This is the second
time we've had to record the intro because I had
my internet die on me.

Speaker 1 (00:35):
Don't tell them that. Okay, No, it's fine, you can do.

Speaker 2 (00:38):
You're all the time you were mentioning that this that
you weren't getting references. I'm explaining that I made a
reference that Ariel didn't get. So you didn't get that
reference either, I didn't, Okay. So that reference is to
a song called Such Great Heights by the Postal Service,
just like the first reference was.

Speaker 1 (00:54):
I just say the same reference it was.

Speaker 2 (00:56):
It was the second part of the chorus. So the
chorus goes, the chorus goes, they will see us waving
from such great heights. Come down now, They'll say, but
everything looks perfect from far away, Come down now. But
we'll stay That's the way the chorus goes, So for
those of y'all listening at home, I hit her with
the first half of the chorus. She was unfamiliar with
the song. I gave her the business and then my

(01:18):
internet crapped out on me, and then I got it
back up and we started recording again, and then I
gave her the second half of the chorus.

Speaker 1 (01:25):
Yeah, yeah, I don't know that song. When you reference
Postal Service in our show notes, it made no sense
to me. Now it does. Also, it has put this
song not Coming Down Today by Jonathan Colton stuck in
my head because about talking about coming down in a
day and things like that. Just word association.

Speaker 2 (01:43):
Yeah, And the reason why I was quoting it is
that that song's used in a trailer we'll be talking
about later. And as I was telling Ariel before, I
like the song, I like the trailer. I hate the
song being used in that trailer.

Speaker 1 (02:01):
Do you because you also told me that it was
used in the New Elephant Love song medley in Mulan Rouge,
do you also hate it there?

Speaker 2 (02:08):
Actually, it's one of the bits that I really like
in that. So yeah, the stage version of Mulan Rouge
updated the big long medley we get between the two
romantic leads, and there are a ton of extra songs
thrown in there. Ariel and I agree that it's probably
a few too.

Speaker 1 (02:25):
Many, Yes, And I say this as a person who
cannot play a song without finding another song to put
into it, And like my band plays the Pirates who
don't do anything, and we put so many other songs
into it. I probably am being a bit hypocritical, but yeah,
it's just it's a little too much for me. It
loses charm.

Speaker 2 (02:42):
I agree, And I also feel like not all the
transitions from one song to a next work. Like there
are times where they will be singing one song and
they'll transition into another that has a totally different time signature,
and it just it feels like you tripped right like you,
like you just like you just stubbed your toe on
a route and you're starting to try and catch yourself
because the song has to adjust from one time signature

(03:06):
to another and it doesn't always work.

Speaker 1 (03:08):
Yeah, we also do that, but I think they were
totally off the mark by putting in let the body
sit the floor.

Speaker 2 (03:15):
Well, anyway, they we'll be doing We'll be talking more
about that later in the episode. But before we can
get into all of that, we have our beloved thirty
seconds or less segment.

Speaker 1 (03:29):
Insert take our noise here.

Speaker 2 (03:31):
No, no, we'll just insert. We'll just insert the background
music that I always put.

Speaker 1 (03:36):
In yet Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (03:38):
That's at I believe I start off, Do I not?

Speaker 1 (03:42):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (03:42):
All right, here we go on musicals, Yes and go.
There will be no more talk of darkness on Broadway
because the Phantom is packed up in chandelier and clockwork
monkey and vacated the Majestic Theater. Phantom of the Opera
played the Great White Way for thirty five years and
nearly fourteen thousand performances. It launched the careers of many

(04:02):
Broadway stars, and it also spawned the truly terrible show
Love Never Dies, But it's curtains for the musical. Please Andrew,
don't make another sequel. That's all I ask of you.

Speaker 1 (04:16):
I've never seen it on stage. Okay, something I don't
want to see. BBC has decided to do a TV
adaptation of Lord of the Flies, the first book I
ever remember, like traumatizing me as a child. Well like
remember so there are others. I'm sure, However, he's getting

(04:37):
the writer Jack Thorne, who did his Dark materials to
write it, and the Sex Education Show producer Eleven will
be producing it.

Speaker 2 (04:47):
Okay, Well, from Lord of the Flies, it's time for
Lord of the Rings go. We talked about how Warner
Brothers Discovery plans a Lord of the Rings movie series
and how such news can worry fans at times. Well,
the same happens to be true for Elijah Wood, who
played four Dough Buggins in the Peter Jackson movies, and

(05:07):
Wood says it's no surprise that the company wants to
do this because well, there's money to be made. But
he said the series that he was in came from
a purer place, you know, New Zealand. Oh, also a
desire to make art. So we have to hope the
new one will too.

Speaker 1 (05:23):
Oh shoot, it's my turn. Okay. From unlikely heroes to
neighborhood heroes, spider Man is coming to Disney, plus Sam
Raymie's first trilogy spider Man, Spider Man two, and spider
Man three are all coming on April twenty first, and
we'll also get the Amazing Spider Man and then also
Venom and Spider Man Homecoming. This doesn't mean that everything

(05:45):
that Sony's will come to Disney. Plus they're going to
have to work on that on a case by case basis,
but so far it looks good. Also, Peter Feige Kevin
Feigee not Peter fiej. Kevin Feige said that he does
have ideas for more Tom Hollindston the end awesome.

Speaker 2 (06:02):
Okay, here we go. Did you get hooked into the
last of US series on HBO Max? Did that last
episode leave you wanting more to see how Joel and
Ellie's story continues. Can you just not wait for the
next season? Too bad? You're gonna have to. Bella Ramsey,
who plays Ellie, says that season two is in its
early stages of development, with the writers still working on scripts,

(06:25):
and we're probably looking at the end of twenty twenty
four or maybe early twenty twenty five before the fungus
is back among us.

Speaker 1 (06:34):
Clever. Also clever is the advertisement for the new Lego Sonic,
the Hedgehog Sets, which are coming out on August first.
There are four of them. They're slated for adults, but
they are actually pretty simple sets, or at least they
look that way to me. However, the commercial is absolutely adorable.
I will have it in our show notes by Monday

(06:56):
at the latest, so you should check that out.

Speaker 2 (06:59):
Yeah, ten more seconds. So, oh, do you like chili dogs?

Speaker 1 (07:04):
I like chili dogs like it almost inspired me to
make a new Sonic mashup.

Speaker 2 (07:10):
Excellent. All right, now we're good. Here we go. Are
you sad that vampires don't sparkle the way they used to?
That the storm done in rupty I've tied these out.
That the sun has set on the Twilight adaptations, Well
you might be in luck because Lionsgate TV has announced
it is working on a television series connected to Twilight.
Whether it's going to be a remake of the books

(07:31):
or a news story hasn't really been decided at the
time of this recording. We do know Sane Daily is
attached to write the series, but we don't know when
to expect it, or even what platform or channel it
will be on if it all comes together.

Speaker 1 (07:45):
Are you Are you sad that the Living Dead the
Evil Dead only come out once every ten years? Well
you're in luck after the great response that Evil Dead
Rise is getting. Bruce Campbell has said that working with
Samar behind the scenes, they're going to try to make
a new movie like every three years or so. I

(08:06):
don't know if that's necessary, but if you enjoyed the franchise,
I hope you super enjoy it.

Speaker 2 (08:13):
Yeah. I hope they do a film version of the musical.

Speaker 1 (08:17):
That would be fun. Also an updated Army of Darkness.

Speaker 2 (08:22):
Yes, all right, here we go. The next film in
the Monster Verse has a title. On March fifteenth, twenty
twenty four, theaters will play host to Godzilla x Kong
The New Empire. This is the sequel to the film
Godzilla Versus Kong, which I have not seen. But since
there is a sequel, the only conclusion I can make
is that the first film ends with a wrestling match

(08:44):
that goes to a disqualification, and so this time they're
going to have to settle things in the elimination chamber
or something. Adam Wingard is back to direct and a
bunch of actors I don't know are in it.

Speaker 1 (08:55):
I have seen it. That's exactly how it ends. Also,
next in the Duffer Brothers universe from Upside Down Predictures Pictures,
we're getting a new series called The Burrows. It's being
written by Jeffrey Attis and Will Matthews, who have previously
done the Dark Crystal Age of Resistance for Netflix. The

(09:16):
Duffer brothers are super excited about it. It also follows
unlikely heroes like the kids from the eighties Stranger Things,
but this time it's in a retirement community, and so
I'm guessing it's going to be old people who are
fighting an evil force that is trying to steal time
from them. It actually sounds kind of fun. I'm looking
forward to it.

Speaker 2 (09:36):
Yeah, kind of like Stranger Things meets Cocoon.

Speaker 1 (09:40):
Yes, yes, Stranger Thing for these golden years.

Speaker 2 (09:43):
For those of y'all who don't know what Cocoon is,
it was a film that you need to watch because
it's really entertaining. Okay, I've got another Andrew Lloyd Webber
related story to tell you, Patty Lapon, I keep telling
you I have time these out. Patty Lapone, who once

(10:04):
famously sued Andre Lloyd Webber for breach of contract and
then named her swimming pool after him because his money
paid for it, has now joined the cast of Agatha
Coven of Chaos. Patty Lapone will play an obscure Marvel
character named Lilia car Calderu, and I hope this means
we're going to get a big musical number in the show.

Speaker 1 (10:22):
I hope so too. I didn't read that news article,
so that's super exciting to me. Okay, Next, Michelle Leo
is coming back to star Trek as in Section thirty one.
It was originally going to be a spinoff series about
her character in Discovery. Now it's going to be a movie,
but it's still about her character slash characters in Discovery,

(10:44):
kind of like she'll be playing Philippa Sue. No, not
philip A Sue that's an actress on Broadway. She'll be
playing Philippa Georgio I believe, yes, who was the captain
of the of the Discovery in her like super black
Ops position they had, and it'll explore the black Ops stuff.

Speaker 2 (11:04):
Whoo, all right here I go. AMC plans to flesh
out the Anne ris averse soon. Already AMC has two
series based off Anna Rice's works, Interview with the Vampire
and Mayfair Witches. But now the network is developing a
series that follows the secretive scholars known as the Tallemasca,

(11:25):
who have been quietly studying the undead and supernatural for centuries.
They're also working on a mini series called Knight Island,
which will follow a group of human thieves who try
to steal from the wrong dead people.

Speaker 1 (11:38):
Lastly, in our thirty seconds or less, Russian has opened
up a new feature film. It's the first feature film
shot in space. It's not entirely shot in space, but
large portions of it where they sent an actor and
a film director up to the ISS, the International Space
Station for twelve days in October to film the scenes.
It's about a surgeon who goes to space to save

(11:59):
an astronaut. It actually looks pretty cool. They beat out
Tom Cruise and SpaceX, who is also trying to do
the same way.

Speaker 2 (12:09):
I agree, it does look cool. And that was our
thirty seconds or less segment. So before we get to
the news news the stuff. What lets us both talk
to each other instead of just alternating? I thought we
chat was there? Has there been anything that you've seen
in the last week? Or I know that you're busy

(12:30):
because you've got another gig coming up and all that stuff.

Speaker 1 (12:34):
Yeah, Oh lord, what have I watched in the last week?
I finished up Doom Patrol the first half of the
final season. Oh, we started Mandalorian. Oh okay, we watched
the first episode. It was okay. I liked it better

(12:56):
than Boba, fett Or and Orb, but my husband thought
it had some sloppy storytelling, and once we chatted about
with about it with him, like, I agree, there are
some things they could have written better, but we like
the characters and we're invested in the story so far,
so we'll keep up with it.

Speaker 2 (13:11):
Okay. Yeah, I still haven't started it, so I'm still
way behind the only thing I can Okay. So I
watched the first two episodes of the final season of Barry,
which is the Bill Hayterer series on HBO where he
plays a hit man who is swept up into the
idea of becoming an actor, and the fourth season already

(13:33):
is really entertaining. It is also you can tell this
is not going to have a happy ending, so which
I mean, you knew from the beginning that it couldn't
based upon the very premise of the show and how
messed up Barry is. Barry continues to be even more
messed up in the current season. I also watched the

(13:54):
fourth episode of Schmiicago season two of Shmigadoon, and y'all,
this show gets better and better. That episode had both
a genuinely sweet love song, like they weren't doing a parody.
It wasn't a satire. It was a genuinely sweet, little,
i mean, flimsy like veil thin love song. It's not

(14:18):
like it was super deep or anything, but it was
really well constructed and had gorgeous melodies and Dove Cameron
and Aaron Twit had an amazing blending of their voices.
It just worked really well and I was taken aback
when it happened because it wasn't this over the top
comedic moment, and it really surprised me. And then the

(14:40):
episode concludes with possibly the most dark comedic song they've
done in the entire series, which was amazing.

Speaker 1 (14:50):
That's that's fantastic. It's the thing that I really like
about Schmigido and Schmicago that that Disney just quite hasn't
grasped onto which is well, except for maybe with the
upcoming The Little Mermaid, they haven't previously cast their movies,
their musical movies with people who are notable singers and actors.

(15:14):
And I feel like pulling from Broadway like Shmiga Duo
Nisha Micago does because I think everybody who isn't the
main two characters are from Broadway. It is really the
smart way to go.

Speaker 2 (15:25):
Yeah, I mean, like you know Jane Krakowski, whom I
mostly think of as being in thirty Rock. She's been
in Broadway for years and years. She was one of
the original actors in the US version of Starlight Express,
so she was on roller skates back in the day
doing Broadway.

Speaker 1 (15:42):
She is also Winnifred in Once Upon a Mattress. At
one point I think or know she was Lady Larkin.

Speaker 2 (15:47):
Fantastic though, but everyone's doing a great job. The show
is so funny. Alan Cumming and Kristin Chenowith playing off
each other as characters who are inspired by Sweeney Todd
on one side and a combination of Miss Hannigan from
Annie and Missus love It from Sweeney Todd on the
other side. When they find out they could have a

(16:10):
potential solution to their two problems. Sweeney Todd version that
character his problem is he's a butcher who doesn't have
access to meat, and the Missus Lovett version character, her
problem is that she's got too many darn orphans. Hey,
I've got a solution.

Speaker 1 (16:27):
Oh no.

Speaker 2 (16:28):
The song is called the Songs called Good enough to eat.

Speaker 1 (16:32):
Oh my goodness. That reminds me of watching an interview
with Josh Groben, because he's currently Sweeney Todd on Broadway,
and he said that his missus love It is gluten
free and he's either vegan or vegetarian. So their meat
pies are truly dry and horrible.

Speaker 2 (16:47):
So they really are the worst pies in London.

Speaker 1 (16:49):
They really are. They really are. So we had some
friends online trying to talk about what they think the
next the next iteration of Schmagago should be, and I
wanted to ask you before we move on, what do
you think the third season should be called?

Speaker 2 (17:05):
I mean, I said it should be Schmig Saigon, because
because if we're going by era, and we've just finished
out the sixties and seventies and we're we're really focusing
on sort of the sleazier, grubbier musicals of that era,
then you start getting into the big spectacle musicals of

(17:29):
the eighties, right, So you get into stuff like which
started in the late seventies but then really grew in
the eighties. So stuff like Phantom of the Opera, Lebies,
Miss Saigon, A lot of Weber musicals actually fall in
that category. Cats Starlight Express, those those sorts of things,
those big, big spectacle shows where you had really expensive

(17:51):
sets and a cast of like sixty people. That's where
I would see it going. So I saw some I
saw some other people saying stuff. Even Kristin Chenowi said schmicked.
But I'm like, well, no, that's that's skipping an entire
era of musicals.

Speaker 1 (18:08):
Yeah, so I think if you're going to do the eighties,
then it should be the Schmig Light Express. But I
see our friends online also kind of skipped the eighties.
I think, just thinking like Miss Sigon still fits into
that darker era of stuff and went straight to the
nineties two thousands. So my suggestions were Schmig after Big
and then the full Schmiggy so the full Monty.

Speaker 2 (18:33):
Yeah, well, and I I so Schmig gets into another
era of musicals where you would have a double problem then, right,
because that's the era of musicals where people were taking
existing properties like film and TV series things like that
and adapting them into a musical. So you get mean girls,

(18:56):
you get legally blonde, you get a beatle Jews, you
get Adam's.

Speaker 1 (19:01):
Family, which spans from the nineties to today. Right, right,
I got, I got, I got like an inner, I
got like a survey from the Atlanta Broadway company that
brings all the shows to Atlanta, saying what do you
want to see? And in there was the Karate Kid
and Back to the Future, and we head back to
the future already, but I don't think Karate Kids come
out yet.

Speaker 2 (19:19):
So yeah, And that's the thing is that that would
be harder to do for Smigadoon, right, because do you
just do you reference fake movies that don't really exist,
and then these are the musical adaptations of these fake movies.
Do you use movies that people recognize, but you've created
enough separation where it's not you know, it's not a

(19:42):
one to one parody, because so far both Smigadoon and Schmicago,
while they are drawing from those musicals, they're combining a
lot too. Like there's a number in one of the
episodes that all the people look like they came out
of cabaret, but they're singing a number that's essentially taken
straight from the opening of a chorus line, So I mean,

(20:05):
it's weird.

Speaker 1 (20:06):
They could also go in that era to like the
whole something Rotten and Book of Mormon and Avenue Q
kind of stuff that's just overtly comedic.

Speaker 2 (20:16):
Yeah, but it's hard to do a satire of comedy too, right,
Like it's hard to do because all you need to
do is look at all the you know, blank movie movies,
all the like date movie, epic movie, you know, all
those films that came out where a lot of the
movies they were quote unquote parodying were already comedies, and

(20:36):
those films are almost unwatchably bad.

Speaker 1 (20:41):
I agree. I guess we'll just have to see what
they do and where they go. You're probably right, speaking
of writing beautiful segue. If I do say so myself,
I'm gonna be the only person who does. Let's start
off our news items with talking about the writer's strike.

Speaker 2 (21:03):
Yeah, So the Writer's Guild of America held a vote,
and this isn't a surprise. They voted overwhelmingly to support
a strike. Now, that doesn't mean that they're on strike
right now. It just means they approved a strike, and
so if the decision is made, then the guild is
already prepared to go on strike. That being said, I

(21:24):
think the general feeling right now is that's where we're headed.
It doesn't look like there's going to be a resolution
before a strike, so you know, by the time you
hear this, it may already be official. There may already
be a strike on.

Speaker 1 (21:40):
Yes, but they'll go on strike if a deal hasn't
been reached by May. First. They're asking for, you know,
a lot of like compensation type stuff. So a lot
of it circles around again with streaming. When streaming started,
it was such a new thing. People didn't know how
they were going to make money, and they're honestly they're
still dealing with that. So so things like residuals and

(22:04):
all that kind of stuff. The deals for that are
not great across the board because it's all about like, Okay,
how do we not go bankrupt if this doesn't fly?
But we've had streaming around for how many years now?
And what people trying to cut costs also included things
like it says in the article on Deadline. It talks
about I'm trying to find it mini rooms and I

(22:27):
think I don't know because I didn't have time to
fully look into it. But I think that's where they're
talking about, like having much smaller writer rooms but still
the same turnaround and so it's really hard on the
writers and it means you know, you're maybe not getting
as good of a product. And then things like limiting
how AI can be used in a script, which honestly
I'm glad for because I don't like what AI has

(22:51):
written thus far, and also as an actor, I don't
want to be replaced by AI. There's some there's AI
can do a lot of things, but there's certain things that,
like I hope just remain truly human, that you can't
get without a human so.

Speaker 2 (23:08):
Well, and you know, when we say truly human, we
also have to throw producers in there, because as far
as I can tell, they're not human at all. And
I say that as a producer, but no, like when
you're when you're looking at things like like this is
what this discussion reminds me of a lot. Is what
we heard in the wake of Black Widow Right and

(23:29):
Scarlett Johanson because her contract was written in such a
way that she was supposed to be Doe residuals, but
because Marvel chose to push that out to streaming as
opposed to a theatrical release, there was this whole conflict
of well, how how does she get residuals. Then how
does that end up impacting her compensation for working on

(23:52):
the film, because it was her understanding that that was
going to be part of her compensation. You take it
out of box office return and you start to have
to ask questions of how do you measure success of
a product then, because the number of streams of a
film do not directly connect to the revenue, right, So

(24:12):
it gets way more complicated, and that's part of what
needs to be resolved, not just for the writers, but
as you said, Ariel, across the entire industry.

Speaker 1 (24:22):
Yeah, I mean it hits actors. I know that people
were and I'm not behind the scenes, so I can't
say for certain, but I've heard people say that the
reason things like Westworld or shows get canceled before the
first season's done is so that and move to a
different services so that the service doesn't have to pay
residuals anymore, because there is like there's like a grace
period put in there for streaming for if something doesn't

(24:44):
get picked up, and then after a certain time, the
actors get residuals if it continues on the platform. But
they've been in they've been in negotiations since March, because
that's when the current that's Yeah, they've been in they've
been in talks since March, and there's been a little

(25:05):
bit of give. But I have a feeling that this
one's going to be hard to work out because it's
also the producer side and the you know, the the
the other side of this really needs to figure out
how to make that mattainable and sustainable, and they should
have done that already, but there's been a little bit
of givet but it hasn't been enough. Last time we

(25:26):
had a writer strike, it lasted one hundred days. That's
like almost a half a year. Yea a third of
a year. Yeah, it's you're right, it's almost a third
of a year. Yeah. My actor brain is already like
a goodness, Like, I support I support the strike, and
I support you know, better better rules and regulations around

(25:48):
discrimination and equal pay and and all of these things.
I support all of these things. But you know, as
an actor, if there's a writers strike, then there's less
content being pushed out. So I feel like there are
going to be some places that maybe or like let's
get our stuff in before this happens, even ye, So
you know there are still things being filmed. If we

(26:11):
go into a writer's strike, we might still get some
new stuff popping up. But I really hope they figured
this out.

Speaker 2 (26:17):
I really do, yeah, because otherwise what will happen is
you'll end up getting you know, truncated seasons next year,
where you know, it might be that a show that
would normally have you know, thirteen episodes only has six
something like that. The last thing I remember coming out
during the previous writers strike was a Doctor Horrible sing

(26:39):
a long blog because it didn't because it was this independent,
little web based series, there were no rules, it didn't
violate anything. So Joss Whedon and his brother were able
to get together and put this thing together and cast
it with folks like Neil Patrick Harris and Felicia Day,
and they were able to put this piece out and

(27:00):
it did really well for several reasons. One, it was
very had a very hook centered kind of concept, but
also what else was there to watch?

Speaker 1 (27:12):
Yeah? Yeah, I mean it. It is really a great
time for people to create their own content. And if
you're an actor out there, because there's tons of us
listening to this, you know, it's a perfect time to
create your own content that doesn't go against any regulations.
That's not not supporting the strike. That's it's an opportunity
for you to really take time to create your own
beautiful works, because what else are you gonna do? Yeah,

(27:36):
like Jonathan said, But all that being said, there are
a bunch of things coming out that we've gotten trailers for. Hey,
we've got to be getting a lot of trailers. Everything
is making up for the last three years. And the
first one is a trailer for season two have Sweet
Tooth that I wasn't sure we were going to even get.

Speaker 2 (27:54):
Yeah, neither did I. I didn't know if we would
get a second season. If you don't know what Sweet
Tooth is, it's based off a comic book and the
basic premise is you'll never believe this, but the world
gets hit by this ginormous pandemic. I know, hard to believe, right,
but ni unbelievable. Yes, this, this particular one is referred

(28:16):
to as the Sick because you know, people are creative,
and a whole bunch of folks die, and then a
whole bunch of babies who are born post pandemic. Are
these weird hybrids that are part human and part animal,
and so we end up having a story with all

(28:40):
these different child characters who are are kind of you know,
besteal in appearance, and it's it's you know, you're it's
a fantasy series. It's like a fantasy Alt Earth series,
and the preview kind of shows us some of the
conflict in drama and action that's going to play out

(29:00):
in this season.

Speaker 1 (29:01):
Yeah, I the last season ended on a cliffhanger, so
it's really good. Did you watch the first season?

Speaker 2 (29:07):
I did not.

Speaker 1 (29:09):
I did. By the end, it really picked up. I
felt like it was a little unevenly paced, but I
thought the actors were very likable. However, I will say
the second season looks much much faster paced, but also
it's focusing on child and animal engagement, and it's like hard.

(29:32):
That's hard for me. I can't even watch Homeward Bound
without anxiety. And I've seen that like five times, never again,
never again. But you know, it's it's fun, it's cute.
I look forward to the second season.

Speaker 2 (29:49):
It definitely looks like I mean, the trailer at least
makes it look, you know, fairly fairly dark, and the
guy playing the villain, I'm like, dude, I I've found
my next cosplay.

Speaker 1 (30:02):
You definitely have it is. It is pretty dark. I
will say it's not unbeariable. It's not like Last of
Us or Walking Dead or anything like that, but I
mean it deals with a lot of dark concepts. I
don't want to ruin it for anybody who hasn't seen
it but wants to. So I realized we're kind of
past the spoiler bit. But watch the trailer you'll find yeah.

Speaker 2 (30:23):
Yeah you do. All we really gave you was some
premise and some general feels. But yeah, I watched the trailer.
See if it's something that you would dig. And if
it is and you haven't watched any of it, hey
good news. You got a whole season to work your
way through before you can worry about season two. Next up,
we have a trailer for a film called Assassin's Club,

(30:43):
which I said was John Wick meets Smoking Aces because
it ends up being a whole bunch of assassins who
are set off against each other in kind of a
battle royale situation.

Speaker 1 (30:55):
I really like the actors in it, but the trailer
itself just left me kind of meh, Yeah, I like that.

Speaker 2 (31:05):
You were like, what can I say that's nice about this?

Speaker 1 (31:09):
Well? It it. I'm trying to remember the actor's name.
It's got Sam Neil yep.

Speaker 2 (31:15):
Henry Golding's in it.

Speaker 1 (31:17):
Henry Golding, that's the name of the person. I really
like him. He's he's a very good actor. And a
bunch of other people too that are good. But I
don't know. It feels like you said, it's John Wick
meets Smoking As, so it feels unriginal to me, and
so therefore they just haven't grabbed me. I was speaking

(31:38):
like John Wick meets Hunger Games.

Speaker 2 (31:41):
But that's fair till yeah, yeah, well, and and I
guess that in a way that's you know, Hunger Games
is actually more appropriate because Smoking Aces. First of all,
it's a movie that is all style over substance. It is.
I do not think it's a very good movie. It
has a lot of good people in it, and it's
got a lot of style. It's not a good movie,

(32:02):
but it's one where a whole bunch of assassins and
hitmen and et cetera, et cetera are all coming after
the same dude, the same target, and in the process
they end up taking each other out quite a bit. Actually,
there's a whole lot of setup and the taking out
part lasts like fifteen minutes because it's so intense. But

(32:24):
but yeah, that this one, they're actually being set off
against each other, and of course the john Wick connection.
One everyone's an assassin, but two the main character is
actually trying to get out of the business and ends
up being forced into this almost like a competition or contest,

(32:45):
and isn't really certain who is behind the scenes pulling
the strings. But yeah, like this is all stuff we've
seen in one version or another before. It looks like
it's it's shot competently well and the performances look fine,
but it doesn't it doesn't really have any new ideas
to bring to the table.

Speaker 1 (33:03):
Yeah, which you can do this sort of a story
and bring new ideas. I mean, look at how many
versions of Star Trek we've gotten.

Speaker 2 (33:14):
That's a segue.

Speaker 1 (33:15):
That's a segue. Could you tell by like how seamlessly
I did it without pausing to think at all.

Speaker 2 (33:23):
So what you're referring to is we got a trailer
for season two of Strange New Worlds, and this, my friends,
is the trailer that incorporates the song Such Great Heights
from the Postal Service in it, where I said the
trailer's good. The song's good. I don't like them both together.

Speaker 1 (33:41):
But the trailer is good. It looks fun. They bring
the thing okay, so it looks like there's gonna be
crushes and comedy and action and drum all the stuff
we loved about the first one, right, But something that
really surprised me in the trailer is they brought back
the og you look in Klingons.

Speaker 2 (34:01):
What do you mean by og?

Speaker 1 (34:03):
I mean like next generation? Okay, because next generation through
through I guess Enterprise or or whichever the last one
was before Discovery.

Speaker 2 (34:18):
Because the Og Klingons they were they look like like
brown people essentially, they were they look like they were
stand ins for like Middle Eastern humans, right. Like that's
because because if you look at the original series, they
didn't have the the bumpy heads, and then once you

(34:38):
get to the films, the original series films, then that
started to change. So that's why I got a little confused,
because like, well, no, it's really cling On two point
zero is what they look like.

Speaker 1 (34:49):
Okay, fine, they brought that cling On two point oh,
which I feel like is the most prevalent version of
the Klingon.

Speaker 2 (34:58):
Yes, yes, but I'm.

Speaker 1 (35:01):
Really surprised because of Discovery, because of when Discovery takes
place in relation to strange New worlds and how different
the Klingons look in Discovery.

Speaker 2 (35:15):
Yeah. Yeah, the consistency I think across various series is
a problem. Like in some cases Star Trek has tried
to explain away that to explain, like, oh, well, they
look like this in the original series because of X,
Y and Z, and they look like this in this

(35:35):
other one because of blah blah blah. But really it
just comes down to the aesthetics of the particular show.
So it's where you start to see the showrunners try
and do creative gymnastics to justify why things are the
way they are and why they're not consistent across all
the different series. I will say I thought the fact

(35:59):
that they brought than Kirk spoiler alert. In this trailer,
Kirk shows up and immediately like the without even saying anything,
Kirk is giving bedroom eyes to a woman insign and
she's all flustered, and I'm.

Speaker 1 (36:17):
Thinking he's perfection.

Speaker 2 (36:19):
Well, no, it is not like Kurk. Yes, yes, Kirk
did get around a bit, but not nearly as much
as the modern depictions of Kirk have him, Like, if
you watch again the original series, yes, Kirk is a
bit of a player, but not to the degree that
he was shown off in say the Abrams movies or

(36:40):
apparently this trailer. So it's perpetuating this idea of Kirk
that wasn't fully present in the original series. But you know,
I guess we're past that. It's fine.

Speaker 1 (36:51):
I mean, we also don't know how much that is
going to maintain throughout the second season. You know, that
was a part of his character in the original series,
even if it wasn't his full character. He did get
around a bit, and you know, maybe that's just to
introduce him so that pete more modern audiences go oh,
that's Kirk, and maybe then they'll pull back we'll see

(37:13):
I think he looks great, like, oh, yeah, that's Kirk's
that's perfect.

Speaker 2 (37:18):
I mean yeah, from personality. I mean I heard people say, oh,
it doesn't look like Kirk at all. I'm like, well,
neither does Chris Pine. But that's fine, Like it's okay.

Speaker 1 (37:26):
Yeah, yeah, I'm very much looking forward to this. I
really enjoyed season one, and look, if they can make
a renaissance, it wasn't really a renaissance. Festival episode, but
it was essentially a Renaissance festival episode. Makes sense, then
they can do anything.

Speaker 2 (37:44):
Well to that, I say, huzza as biz that we
should then move on to talk about David.

Speaker 1 (37:51):
Bowie, another person with space ties.

Speaker 2 (37:55):
Yes, David Bowie. He of course phenomenal, legendary musician, also actor.
He was in a lot of stuff, including geeky stuff
like Labyrinth Labyrinth. Oh one of the best.

Speaker 1 (38:11):
Wasn't he in the original The Man Who Came to
Earth too?

Speaker 2 (38:14):
Yeah, he was also in. Well, he's in tons of stuff,
like he has played aliens before. But the reason we're
bringing him up here is because we got a trailer
to a documentary about David Bowie's career called moon Age Daydream,
and it's got tons of archival footage from interviews and such,

(38:35):
especially of David Bowie having fun with interviewers and just
sort of like playing around with their repressive personalities and
just being him. And it's great. I'm looking forward to it.
I like David Bowie's music a lot. I really liked
his attitude and his approach, so I want to see
this documentary.

Speaker 1 (38:55):
I agree, I agree, I like his music, I like
his creativity. I always have fun watching him, so yeah,
I'm looking forward it to it too. Something else that
when we first talked about it, I wasn't sure if
I was going to look forward to it. I simply
mentioned it because Arnold Schwartzenegger has some geek ties with
things like Terminator in the Last Action Hero and stuff
like that. Predator and True Lies and all that junk.

(39:18):
But we talked about how he's got a new series
coming to I think Netflix called Fubar where he plays
a retired CIA agent who's getting pulled back in And
we actually got a trailer for it. And I hate
to say this, but it actually looks really cute to me.

Speaker 2 (39:34):
I was about to say, it reminds me of True
Lies in a lot of ways, right, Like it's yes,
it's clear that his profession was one that was essentially
kept from his family, but then it turns out that
someone else in his family also is a secret agent,
also for the CIA, and he also did not know it.

Speaker 1 (39:57):
Yeah. Yeah, so to me, it's kind of like True
Eyes meets Taken meats Spy.

Speaker 2 (40:06):
Which is it's spelled that way. It's sp yyyyy question.

Speaker 1 (40:11):
Mine eye because it's funny. It genuinely looks like cute funny,
like maybe early two thousand sitcom level funny.

Speaker 2 (40:23):
Yeah. Well, it makes me think of that era of
action movies where there is that level of humor worked
into the action movie itself, and I think it looks
like more sincere and funny as opposed to something like
The Expendables, which tried really hard to capture that kind
of thing, but you could see how hard they were trying,

(40:46):
and it didn't really feel like they were succeeding. They
were trying but not really getting to where they need
to be. This the trailer at least looks like it's
it's a little more in that spirit of light hearted,
goofy humor on top of you know, obviously high production
action sequences. So the basic premise, because I mean, you're

(41:09):
gonna watch the trailer, you're gonna see it if you
don't want to. If you don't want to know the
basic premise, just skip ahead like thirty seconds. But the
basic premise is that he finds out his daughter is
an undercover agent, and then the two of them end
up working together, though they have their own way of
doing things, and so there's a little father daughter conflict

(41:30):
going on in there as well as a collaboration.

Speaker 1 (41:34):
And the relationship. So there are definitely jokes that like
side characters or other characters who are not the main
family members have that. I'm like, Okay, maybe that's funny
in context, but here it kind of fell flat for me.
But the relationship between Arnold Schwarzenegger's character and his daughter
feels so true. It feels very real in a very

(41:57):
like in a very fun way.

Speaker 2 (41:58):
So yeah, yeah, no, I agree. So back in twenty eighteen, Ariel.

Speaker 1 (42:06):
Was that a year I don't even remember.

Speaker 2 (42:08):
Yeah, no, it was before before the Panny. So before
the Panny, we had we had years that ended in
the teens before the Panny, and one of them was
twenty eighteen. And there was this series, this animated series
that was kind of a satirizing the adventure cartoons of

(42:29):
like the sixties and seventies, stuff like Johnny Quest. And
it was called Venture Brothers and it was on Adult
Swim and it had run for seven seasons and it
was supposed to come back for an eighth, but it
got canceled and we were wondering, are they ever going
to actually wrap up the storyline that was underlying those
seven seasons and the answer is yes, in a movie

(42:53):
that will be released to home video and then ninety
days later to streaming, and it's got a trailer. Now.
We watched it and it was, eh, it's fine. Oh
the trailer really wasn't a trailer. It was more like
an excerpt. But yeah, if you're a Venture Brothers fan,
the trailer or the excerpt is great. If you're not

(43:15):
a fan, then you're like, I don't know why I
should care about any of this.

Speaker 1 (43:18):
I watched Venture Brothers. I don't know if I ever
finished it. I actually had to watch it the excerpt
twice because I was I lost. I lost my attention
the first time, and I was like, oh, I had
this played, but I didn't watch it, so I went
back and watched it again. Yeah, it's it is what
it is. If I'm going to go back to old

(43:39):
school adventure, I'm going to do it with the new
Frog and Toad show that's coming out or movie or whatever.

Speaker 2 (43:45):
Yeah, we got a trailer for Frog and Toad. Which
did you ever read the Frog and Toad books when
you were very little?

Speaker 1 (43:52):
I love Frog and Toad and then I read it
as an adult too, because I taught daycare for ten years.

Speaker 2 (43:57):
That's right. Yeah, I read them when I was very
very little. I have no memory of them. So when
I watched the preview, it's funny. It's also kind of sad.
It's funny and sad. I was watching the preview. It's
setting up these very very sincere stories about friendship, and
I kept waiting for sort of the edgy or satirical

(44:20):
or cynical shoe to drop, for there to be like
the subverting your expectations thing. But no, it's just nice
because that's Frog and Toad. That's what Frog and Toad
is supposed to be. I am just a jerk because
I've been conditioned by culture to expect some sort of
snarky joke at some point, but that's not what this is.

(44:41):
So the preview I thought was very very sweet.

Speaker 1 (44:44):
It is very sweet, and we need more just sweet,
happy stuff. I mean, obviously it's for kids, but I
will enjoy it. I'm going to watch it. I'm gonna
make my niece and nephews watch it too, even though
they're probably all too owd for it. I just don't care.
But if you want SNAr, you know what where I
bet you're gonna get a ton of snarky and it'll
be fine. Drop Out TV, drop Out TV. We got

(45:08):
the trailer for the next all of a sudden, I've
forgotten the next campaign that they're doing for Dimension twenty
and it is a prequel to Crown of Candy Candy
the Ravening War.

Speaker 2 (45:22):
Yes, and this is the campaign where Brennan Lee Mulligan
will be a player, not the game master. They got
some hack to come in and DM this one.

Speaker 1 (45:34):
Yeah, Matt Mercer's coming in and doing it. And I mean,
Brennan has been a player before Abria Iron Guard did
the Quart of fan Flowers and he played in that.

Speaker 2 (45:42):
He's played that's true, that's true.

Speaker 1 (45:46):
But yeah, Matt Mercer's coming in to do Crown of Candy,
which I Crown of Candy honestly, so many people love
it and I get it. There's some amazing roleplay. There's
some really cool lore built into the world, which is
probably why it appeals to Matt Mercer like it's a
very well thought out world. It's a very cool concept.
I was hit or miss on the individual episodes. Honestly,

(46:06):
some of it was a little slow for me. But
it looks fun. They've got a voice actress in it
who I haven't seen on Dimension twenty before. That doesn't
mean I haven't watched it. Also, that doesn't mean she
hasn't played before, but she is a voice actress for
Medusa and the upkeem coming game Stray Gods, which is
being done by Joel from Last the voice of Joel

(46:30):
from Last of Us, and then Laura Bailey who is
part of Critical Role, and so yeah, it's very very cool.

Speaker 2 (46:39):
The guy who played Joel, by the way, his name
is Troy Baker, So yeah. The Rabbity War trailer does
also contain a moment, so it's it sets up in
a very silly way of Matt Mercer discovering the Crown
of Candy campaign materials and that this is what convinces
him to run it. But then we actually see some
clips from the campaign, including Matt Mercer giving Dimension twenty

(47:05):
the very first how do you want to do this?

Speaker 1 (47:09):
Yeah, yeah, I've watched more Dimension twenty than I have
Critical Role at this point, so it took me a
second to be like, oh, that's cool, but.

Speaker 2 (47:19):
No, yeah, when Matt Mercer is running his games, if
a player rolls a killing blow against a notable opponent.
He will sometimes ask the player how they want to
how do you want to do this, which means how
does the killing blow actually play out? So that they
can kind of increase the drama and entertainment of the conflict.

(47:45):
And so it becomes like a touchstone moment in critical
role campaigns where someone does something really impressive and rather
than tell them how it plays out, he asks them, no,
tell us, what does this killing blow look like?

Speaker 1 (48:02):
Yeah, Bredan Lee Mulligan does something similar, And I've played
games where people do something similar because you've made this
cool cinematic moment and you need to you need to
be able to tell what you meant.

Speaker 2 (48:15):
And to pay it off, and and to get collaboration
from your players, so it's not just the game master
telling a story.

Speaker 1 (48:21):
Yeah yeah, And it also makes it easier on the
game master too, might be like Fudge, I don't.

Speaker 2 (48:27):
Know rocks ball, everybody dies?

Speaker 1 (48:31):
Yeah, uh yeah, so I'm I will watch it. I
will of course watch it. I just finished up never after.
That's something else. I finished watching this week, which was
their last campaign. It was horror fairy tale and it
was very fun. I quite enjoyed it, but if you
don't really like to mention twenty and you like Critical
Role while you're in luck because they have two new

(48:52):
RPGs coming out, and a board game and a deck
building game and they aren't D and D.

Speaker 2 (48:58):
Yeah, not really surprised that they're not D and D
because with the licensing issues over at Wizards of the Coast,
I imagine that there is a desire to kind of
divorce themselves away from that so that they don't have
to deal with all of that red tape and they

(49:20):
can make stuff that's on their own terms. They have
partnered with a games company that makes games as well.
Some of those titles have received good reviews, some of
them have received middling reviews. I think it's great that
they're making stuff that their fan base is going to
find enjoyable. I don't have any particular plans to pick

(49:44):
these up. I have thought about getting the Exandria campaign
book that they put out ages ago, but haven't done it.
But yeah, I think it's I think it's cool for
people who love games that. I mean, anytime you get
more games out there, people really love that, and I
think that's awesome.

Speaker 1 (50:03):
I agree if does that include more Atari games? Do
you like Atari, Jonathan?

Speaker 2 (50:10):
I mean I had an Atari twenty six hundred when
I was growing up, and I've I've done multiple tech
stuff episodes about Atari, So yeah, I like I like it.
The name doesn't mean as much as it used to
because it went through a whole lot of changes. But
to go through that would take forever, Like we could
have done an entire business on the brink about Atari.

(50:32):
But no, I think what you're talking about is how
now the company that is Atari is getting a little
a little uh, it's going on a shopping spree.

Speaker 1 (50:43):
Yeah, they're buying. They bought over one hundred different old
games from the eighties and nineties to I guess re release,
add to consoles, including modern consoles, and to try to
give kind of like a renaissance to.

Speaker 2 (51:00):
Yeah, which could include everything from merchandise to a total
remaster to sequels, like we don't really know what the
intention is, but it includes a ton of old titles.
Now I would not necessarily call them classic, I mean
classic in the since they're old, but I don't know
if on a quality standpoint you would call them that

(51:23):
because one of them is the Bubz series, and I
don't know if you ever played any of the Bubsy
games areal, I did not know they were the ones
I played. Anyway, they were not good. They were kind
of like bad, like poorly designed and almost impossible to play.

(51:43):
There's a comedy YouTube channel called Funhouse. It's part of
the Rooster Teeth family and fun f u n ha Us,
and they have played some of the Bubzy games recently
and they really highlight just how I mean they're playing
through emulators, so that's that's part of it, but just

(52:04):
how bad that game was.

Speaker 1 (52:06):
Listen, classic doesn't have to be good. Classic can be
classically bad. I mean I learned that from video game
Nerd back. I guess he's still doing videos.

Speaker 2 (52:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (52:17):
Yeah. And also they got something called Demolition Demolition Racer,
which sounds more fun than baseball. It's vehicular combat.

Speaker 2 (52:24):
Yeah. I don't know what that one. I haven't I'm
not familiar with the title, so I don't know what
that how that stacks up against Bubbz But.

Speaker 1 (52:33):
Yeah, But but then like last month, they got Berserk
and Frenzy, which are more well known and better games.

Speaker 2 (52:39):
So yeah, I mean, Berzerk is a true classic, like
that was an old arcade classic, so it's cool, Like,
I'll be curious to see what they do with all that.
Atari has tried to really kind of make some moves
to become relevant again. I would love to see that
happen because I have a lot of the staff for Atari.

(53:01):
It's just that, you know, how do you move forward
with a brand like that, where the association of Atari
is that super old school video game look and feel.
How do you move that into a current generation where
you're both honoring the nostalgia but you're also keeping pace

(53:23):
with modern capabilities. It's a challenge, and I hope that
they are able to meet.

Speaker 1 (53:28):
It me too. Another challenge that I hope is being
able to be met is the Galaxy Quest TV show,
which has been trying to be made for like eight
years or so, but Paramount Plus has finally ordered a series.
That news is they don't have a concept or a
writer or anything else like that, but they've ordered the series.

Speaker 2 (53:48):
They got a name. Yeah, before we started recording, Ariel
and I were chatting about this because we weren't even
sure if we were going to include it because there's
so little detail for us to be able to talk about, Like,
we're curious, is this TV series going to be a
continuation of the story we saw in the movie. Is

(54:10):
it going to be a total reboot where we have
just new actors playing those sorts of characters, because obviously
we can't just pick up because tragically we lost one
of the great actors who was in the film, Alan Rickman.
He passed away and it wouldn't be the same without him.
So do you go back and start over where this

(54:32):
is a new cast who are playing through that same
basic idea they used to make a science fiction show
they got broadcast. This is years later, and they're all
still kind of coasting on this show that they made
years in the past, and then some aliens think that
they're the real thing. Is it a series where it

(54:53):
is that science fiction show where it's it's not there
being mistaken for the real thing, but they're actually making
a side show. We just don't know yet.

Speaker 1 (55:03):
Yeah. And honestly, I love Galaxy Quest. I am all
for a TV show. I'll give anything a chance pretty
much because the Galaxy Quest was so much fun. Although
we did have you know, The Orville, which is almost
similar but not quite in the level of comedy. Yeah,
but they ordered it and we're looking to go into

(55:25):
a writers strike, so hopefully that doesn't keep it from
happening altogether.

Speaker 2 (55:30):
Yeah, we'll have to see I you know, I never
want to to dismiss anything without having seen it first.
I definitely have a lot of questions. It doesn't mean
that there are no answers for those questions. It may
be very good answers. I just don't know them yet.
So here's hoping that we'll have something to look at

(55:52):
in the not too distant future. But we have a
lot of questions to answer. A question I have for you,
Ariel is, would you like to go have a nice
relaxing holiday in a cabin?

Speaker 1 (56:07):
Never again, Jonathan. I like camping. I like cabins. I
enjoyed going to a cabin for your birthday once. But
you know what, never again, never again? Because you hate
me and you made me watch this next trailer and
I didn't even get through it. I got like I
watched it on two double speed and only got like
two thirds of the way through because I hate cannibals

(56:28):
so much.

Speaker 2 (56:29):
Whereas I eat cannibals. That's a that's a punk rock song.
You gotta look it up. It's great. No, uh so,
Cannibal Cabin is the trailer I showed her. We are now,
We're now in the now what has become the traditional
end segment of our news segment.

Speaker 1 (56:46):
Always we can end on happy stuff sometimes, Jonathan, it's.

Speaker 2 (56:50):
Where I group all the horror movie trailers from the end. Well,
at the end, we could just like you know, it's
just a fun way to send it off. So Cannibal Cabin,
though Ariel couldn't really get through it, I did get
through it, but I didn't find it scary or disturbing,
largely because I found it incredibly derivative. It looked a

(57:12):
lot like, Hey, let's take the basic concept of group
of young people go to a cabin and then are
terrorized by bad guys, and then combine that with the
sort of performances and dynamics of Texas Chainsaw Massacre except

(57:34):
make everybody English and that's the movie. And I watched it,
I thought, Yeah, this is just English Chainsaw Massacre is
really what this comes down to. It doesn't feel like
it's doing anything new in the genre, but it's treading
some very familiar ground.

Speaker 1 (57:54):
Yeah, if that's your sort of thing, I'm glad that
you have more content for me. I find it completely
unnecessary in many ways. The next horror movie we have
is Insidious The Red Door. This this was not quite
as scary as a trailer, but I've also not watched
any Insidious, so I have no reference. So it looked like, yeah,
there's a door and it's a scary movie.

Speaker 2 (58:17):
The Scary Door. Was that in like Futurama or something
like they had like the they had the Twilight Zone
type series called like the Scary Door or something along
those lines.

Speaker 1 (58:30):
Anyway, I don't recall.

Speaker 2 (58:31):
Anyway, so I have watched at least the first Insidious.
I may have watched the first two Insidious movies, and
I remember the first one was interesting. I liked it
as a concept. I thought it was pretty good, not great,
but pretty good, and I mostly enjoyed it. So when

(58:54):
I saw that there was this new film in the
Insidious series, I jumped at the chance to watch the trailer,
and then thought, this doesn't do anything for me either.
Have I just dead inside now where horror doesn't affect me,
and which is not true, by the way, there are
horror movies that can really affect me. It's just that

(59:15):
it's not the well, like you know it's It's like
any other kind of entertainment. You watch stuff that evokes
certain feelings and reactions, and some people like being scared,
some people don't. Some people like being disturbed, some people don't.
And the movies that are really effective to me these
days are usually way more psychological and less about the

(59:41):
gore or the violence. This one, you know, Insidious, tries
to be more of the slowly ranking up tension. But
this trailer didn't really work for me. It could have
just been a bad trailer. Maybe the movie would be
very different, but yeah, didn't didn't catch me. But that
doesn't mean other people won't find it really compelling. So

(01:00:04):
you can check out the new trailer for Insidious, The
Red Door. If you're a big fan of that series,
then hey, good news, another one's out.

Speaker 1 (01:00:12):
Yeah. This last one is almost my fault because we
talked about it back in February and I think I
found it then. But Jonathan found a new trailer for
The Boogeyman, which is a Stephen King story. It features
the girl who played Young Leila Young Leah in the
you know McGregor Disney, Obi Wan and Obi Wan, thank you.

(01:00:33):
I look I need more Coffee. I watched all of
Obi Wan, but for some reason, the name just didn't
come to me. Yes, she's the main character. This trailer
looks it's for the Boogeyman. It looks much scarier than
the first one.

Speaker 2 (01:00:46):
Uh, the trailer looks much scarier. It's still again like,
I don't know. Maybe it's because I watched The Babba
Duke and The Baba Duke is such a good movie.
The Boogeyman didn't scare me either, But I I think
it is a better trailer than the first one we got.
And again, it may just be that when I if
I see the movie, I'll feel very differently about it.

(01:01:08):
I also have never read the short story that's based
off of It was one of the short stories that
got collected in night Shift, and that was one of
the Stephen King anthologies I never read. At first, I thought, oh,
I read night Shift. I must have read this story.
And then I looked up night Shift on Wikipedia and
I looked at the list of stories went oh no, no,
I haven't read night Shift. I just read like Skeleton

(01:01:30):
Crew and Four Past Midnight and those, but I never
read night Shifts. I was like, oh no, I haven't
read this one. That's why this doesn't strike any chords
with me, Like I don't have any memory of it.
So I will say that it does look like they
did a good job with the filming, Like the performances
look good. Maybe it's just that I'm burnt out on

(01:01:52):
the scary monster under the bed trope. Yeah, but it
could be like if I again, if I watched the movie,
I might think it's really really well done. So the
reason I put it in here is because the trailer
also falls in the trope of Hey, let's take a
song that you don't associate with being creepy or scary,

(01:02:14):
put it in a minor key, slow it down sub
and now it's the scary song. So in this case
it's it's the Irish Lulla by the tour Ra La
Lura that one.

Speaker 1 (01:02:25):
Yep, not listening to that anymore. Also not going to sleep.
I already don't sleep in the dark. So this trailer
did two things really well. It feels very much like
in the vein of Like It or something like that,
you know, very very similar type story which I was
able to handle watching. However, this one has some really
great beats and moments that are like genuinely tender in

(01:02:46):
the trailer, mixed with the thing that I am most
afraid of, which is the dark. Like I don't like spiders.
I'm kind of a scared scared of spiders, but I'm
even more scared of the dark. And because I get
sleep paralysis and when you're in the complete dark and
you can't see around yourself, if that happens, it's extra scary.
But yeah, this has a moment at the beginning of

(01:03:07):
the trailer where the main character and her older sister
are talking to like a therapist of some sort, and
she's like, well, we're going to turn on this light
and it's going to go between light and dark and
light and dark, and it's like a very tender, kind caring,
helpful moment, And it gave me so much anxiety switching
between the light and they can pitch black. So very evocative,
very well done.

Speaker 2 (01:03:28):
Yeah, that actually kind of made me think of that
short film which later got turned into a full length movie.
And for some reason, the title escapes me, but I
remember in the short film there's a woman she's kind
of doing chores around the house, and she walks by
a hallway and the light's on and she turns the
light to the hallway off, and when she does that,
she can see a silhouette in the hallway. And then

(01:03:50):
she turns on the light and there's nothing there. And
when she turns off the light, the silhouette is still there,
but a little closer. When she turns on the light,
it's not there. Like, it reminded me a lot of that,
and I wish I could. Yeah, anyone out there who
is familiar with horror movies probably is screaming out the
title right now. Yeah, I just have no memory of
what that was.

Speaker 1 (01:04:09):
It sounds familiar, and also it's terrifying me even just
to listen to it. Unlike, here's the thing, Like Doctor
Who plays with the same sort of concept with weeping angels, right,
so like and we need to we need to wrap
this up, so I'll make this quick. Like with weeping angels,
you don't look at them and they move closer to you.
The it's the thing you can't see, right, It's the
thing you cannot see is scarier than the thing you
can see. Yes, that's what makes amazing suspense. For some reason,

(01:04:31):
it doesn't bother me in Doctor Who, and it completely
bothers me in the Boogeyman and the example you should escape.

Speaker 2 (01:04:37):
Well, and this also explains why when I used to
walk around bookstores with Ariel, she would just start screaming yes, yes,
damn it, yes. And it turned out that she was
walking through the are you Afraid of the Dark? Section?

Speaker 1 (01:04:50):
Yes, that's true. Although I love that TV show, I
really like that TV show, The Midnight Society. Okay, well,
I'm never going to sleep again, but I hope you can,
and if you can't, you should write us and complain
to Jonathan. How do they do that?

Speaker 2 (01:05:07):
Well, what you'll have to do is go out and
get yourself some seeds, seeds to tomatoes and to peppers,
you know, maybe get some cilantro, get some onions, and
you're going to grow all of those plants, those vegetables together,
and then you're going to harvest what grows, and you're
going to make your own homemade souls up and you're

(01:05:29):
going to continue to do that until you have perfected
it to a point where it could be just under
the capsaius in amount to peel paint. But it's delicious
and spicy, and you take a jar of that and
you go to a local farmer's stand out in a

(01:05:50):
rural road and you go to show this off to
the farmer, and when you get there, you're going to
hear someone say, hey, what's up. It'll be me and
you can.

Speaker 1 (01:05:59):
Ask me that's great. I can't be contacted that way
because I can't eat tomatoes or peppers. So if you
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(01:06:20):
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Speaker 2 (01:06:40):
Yep. So until next time, I have been Jonathan. I'm
turning the lights off now. Ariel Strickland and.

Speaker 1 (01:06:48):
I've been Ariel, and I am Ariel. I just bought
a balloon. Me and my girl are take it a ride.
Far away from the dark. Cast it castin Yep, that's nope.
I've changed my last name. That's my last name.

Speaker 2 (01:07:02):
Now, got it. The Large Nordron Collider was created by
Ariel Caston and produced, edited, published, deleted, undeleted, published again.
Cursed at by Jonathan Strickland. Music by Kevin McLeod of
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