Ariel and Jonathan Get Sleazy in the 70s

The next incarnation of Schmigadoon ditches the wholesome, romantic era of musicals to embrace the cynical, sleazy shows of the 60s and 70s, and we are here for it! Plus, we talk about the Justin Roiland controversy, how the front half of Epcot may soon be able to ditch those construction barricades, and whether or not the D&D film will make its saving throw against Jonathan's indifference. Plus more!

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:11):
Hey, everybody, Welcome to the Large nor Drunk Collider, the
podcast that's all about the geeky things happening in the
world around us and how very excited we are about them.
I'm aerial casting and with me as always is the
delightful Jonathan Strickland. Jazz hands. Jazz hands. You can't see
your jazz hands, John, Yeah, I can't see your jazz

(00:33):
hands either. We discovered that if we turn our cameras
off that we have slightly fewer technical issues. But it
does mean that even the visual gags we referenced and
you couldn't enjoy previously, we can't do anymore because well
we can. It's just now we're all in the same boat. Listen. Listen.
I'm gonna work on a way for us to either

(00:53):
both record our video locally or I'm going to get
an extender up to my new recording space, which is
super awesome, so that we can maybe get some video
clips because or maybe this is crazy. Maybe I'll make
it a point on Fridays to journey across the city

(01:15):
and we'll record in the same place at the same time. Listen.
That's like an like that's an epic trek for you.
It's I mean, it's significant, but it's all worth doing,
right like uh, and and besides which, it would be
one of those lovely things where we wouldn't have to
ever worry about their being dead air between the two
of us, and I wouldn't have to take out these

(01:36):
little tiny gaps in our audio because uh, there's always
like slight lag from our online recording. This is all
stuff that our listeners care nothing about, because I tried
my best to take it all out before they get
a chance to listen to it. That's fine. Do we
want to start to get No, no, no, no, they're

(01:56):
gonna suffer through it because sometimes sometimes you have to
you have to take your medicine before you're able to
get the treat. So that was the medicine part, and
your treat is thirty seconds or less, all right, So
I'm going to start off thirty seconds or less with

(02:19):
news about Violet Knight too. Yes, that movie that so
many people loved and I thought was just okay, the
not quite die Hard, not quite Home Alone, much more
violent and a lot less moral Christmas special. He is
getting a sequel written by the Sonic writers. Again, Um,
they're going to go They're going to pick up a

(02:43):
lot of storyline that I thought needed to be expounded
upon in the first movie. So maybe the second movie
I like more. Yeah, I wouldn't. I wouldn't hold your breath.
But yeah. Also, you know, they were fully ready to
admit they got the the deal for a sequel before

(03:04):
they even had any notion of what a sequel might
look like. Yes, but I mean one of my big
what I had many big complaints about the movie, and
one of it was just like they had all of
these little story tidbits that we're not flesh out flesh yeah,
flesh yeah. And there's a lot of like Santa lore
that they didn't really get a chance to touch on

(03:24):
that they would probably come into play, I think, honestly,
because you said that, like and a lot of people
said that Violent Knight was a lot like die Hard,
the Violent Knight to should just be a lot like
die Hard to. I mean, honestly, if it could be
more like die Hard or die Hard to than uh
than what it was, I would be happy. Well, next

(03:46):
up is one of mine, and I'm going to start now,
and it's that Lord of the Rings. Fans rejoice because
starting February one, you will be able to watch all
three of Peter Jackson's Lord of the Rings films on Netflix.
That's right, those three movies are coming back to Netflix.
Interesting thing. They've all been on Netflix before, but never simultaneously,

(04:08):
so this will be the first time that you'll be
able to do ah Lord of the Rings marathon on Netflix.
And I'm yes, all right. Next, we have news about
the reboot sequel to Fraser. Yes, not Bret and Frasier,
but Frasier, the nineties sitcom with Kelsey Grammar and uh,

(04:34):
I don't remember who played Niles anyhow. Now David Hyde
Pierced Yes, who will not be back for the sequel,
but now it's kind of about their kids and a
generational gap between father and son. Um. They've announced too
some of the kids are going to be including newcomer
Ander's Keith, as well as jess Selegio from Uh Salgueria

(05:00):
I don't want to mispronounce her name too poorly, who
was in um Why the Last Man will be joining
the cast. The premise sounds pretty cute. It sounds kind
of like a mix between a Different World and Frasier,
and so I'm fine with it. Yeah, me too. I
think I think it's good that they're taking like Frasier
was very different from Cheers, and I think it's good

(05:23):
for this series, which will feature the same character but
will also be very different from the two that came
before it. And I think that's a good thing. Yes,
I mean, unlike night Court, which is just the reboot
is just night Court, and I enjoy it. But yeah,
I haven't. I haven't watched that. We'll have to chat
about some stuff we watched when we get through this section.

(05:44):
So up next is one of mine, and I'm gonna
go if you had visited Disney World, specifically Epcot over
the last say year and a half, you've seen like
this massive open pit and what used to be the
future were old section of epp Cut, And it's because
they're doing this massive, massive change to the front half

(06:05):
of ep Cut. And now the goddess Taffeiti from Milana,
or well Tafei from Mythology but featured in Milana has
taken shape as part of the Journey of Water, which
will be a walk through attraction that opens later this year. Nice.
I'm I'm glad we might eventually get an open Epcot again.

(06:26):
It's been a while. Yeah, yeah, it's been like the
last I think three times I've been. So I used
to be an annual pass holder. I am not anymore, um,
just because I couldn't really justify the expense. I wasn't
going enough to justify it. So anyway, the last three
times I went to Epcut, there were just so many

(06:47):
barrier walls up because there's just tons and tons of construction.
And if you ride the Mono rail into Epcot, it
takes you on a loop where you know, I mean,
there's no hiding it. You just see massive open area
of construction. And now at least they have some of
the structures. Like we've been waiting for months and months

(07:09):
for these things to start to come together, and it
seems like they're really rapidly coming together right now. And
and I love mo Wanna. I'm not a huge fan
of bringing more Disney I P into Epcut. I know
this has gone way over three seconds, and I'm sorry,
but I'm not a huge fan of bringing more Disney
IP into Epcut because that's not really what Epcot was

(07:31):
meant to do. But things change, things of all over time.
You've got to accept it. And I am glad to
see Mo Wanna get featured in Disney Parks because I
really like that that movie. I think so too, And
while I also prefer Epcot to remain like innovational and cultural,
although they could improve their cultural expanse um, I I

(07:56):
feel like Mo Wanna at least fits in with the
theme of the seas in the land and all that stuff,
so it's not completely out of left field because it
is going to be the Journey of Water, which is
all scientific, which is a little bit of Epcot. So yeah,
it kind of fits in with some of the themes
like the Life Pavilion and which doesn't exist anymore but
used to, and the Land Pavilion, that kind of stuff. Yeah. Um, okay,

(08:20):
onto my next story, which I had to open up
the article just to make sure I got everything right,
And there is this trailer for M three again playing.
Well now it's uh yes, it's just a bunch of
trailers and it needs to stop so it's not distracting me. Okay,
here we go a couple of weeks ago, and we
talked about a new show coming to Netflix, Lockwood and

(08:41):
Code that was done by the same person who made
Attack the Block, which was a movie that I haven't seen,
but I really want you and Jonathan really liked. Now
they are making Attack the Block to John Boyegas coming back,
and they are. While the first one was a low
budget and a low budget indie that really took off
the second one, they're caming for Terminator Too and Aliens

(09:02):
as far as feel and popularity, so I really hope
they do it. Um. Joe Cornerish makes really fun media
and I look forward to watching the original Antis Equel. Yeah,
and I you know the I don't know exactly how
to take the Terminator Too and Aliens. You could say,
all right, well, clearly both Aliens and Terminator two were

(09:23):
much larger budget films than the first film in the series.
Another thing you could say is both Aliens and Terminator
Too had a different tone, almost to the point of
being different genres from the first films in the series,
especially Aliens. Right, Alien is really a horror movie. Aliens
is really more of an action movie. And I kind

(09:45):
of like that idea too. I kind of like the
idea of Attack the Block to not only being bigger,
but maybe having a slightly different tone. And the first
film tackles some social issues I imagine the second film
will have to do that as well, and not in
a heavy handed way. It's just woven into the story. Yeah,
they did a lot of research and they put a
lot of effort into making it cohesive and uh flow well,

(10:11):
so and that you know is apparent. Yeah, all right,
my last one. Here we go sad day because news
that we figured was coming finally broke that Titans and
Doom Patrol are both going to have season four be
their final seasons respectively. Uh somewhat. Fortunately, the show creators

(10:32):
kind of felt like this was going to be the
way it was going to go to and had sort
of prepared that so that the back half of season
four could wrap up storylines so that we get a
definitive end. So at least we're going to have that
and not just to have it cut off at a cliffhanger. Yeah, okay,
I told I warned Jonathan I was going to have
something to add to this because you all know I

(10:53):
love doing Patrol. I I don't really like Titans that
I love Doom Patrol and I'm sad to see it,
and I'm glad they're able to end it. But a
bunch of people have been throwing a lot of fire
at James Gunn because of course all of the d
C stuff that they liked is stopping. There. Said at
James Gunn about the decision to cancel Joom Patrol and
Titans apparently came before he took over the reins. It

(11:13):
just hadn't been announced, so um, you know, and and
my husband. I was chatting my husband about it a
little bit because I was I'm super sad. I really
liked the show, and I know people who work on
the show and love it. Um, but my sister worked
on the show. Your sister worked on the show, as
well as some other artsy folk. But what I will
say is he told me, Hey, if James Gunn is

(11:36):
rebooting all of these universes and they need actors for
all of these new roles, then view it as another
opportunity for you to get an acting job. So, you know,
everybody spam James Gunn and tell him I should be big,
big Bertha. Well, and yeah, another thing is that we
might you know, we've already seen word of him potentially

(11:57):
using actors who were in previous DC properties populate the
new version of DC. Uh, but as totally different characters,
and that is kind of interesting too, and it was
one of those ideas that took me a while to
kind of come around on. But honestly, like, just look

(12:18):
at Chris Evans. The dude is played like half of
the superheroes out there. It's just we just associate him
with Captain America, so it should be fine. Yeah, I agree,
I agree. But if you are, hey, I'm going into
the last few seconds, if you are looking for some
more DC stuff to indulge on while your old favorites
are going away, We're getting a new animated movie Legion,

(12:41):
not the one we talked about last week, but another
one Legion of Superheroes. Uh. Clip has been released on
YouTube of it. It looks absolutely adorable. If you like
I watched Supergirl and didn't get the resolution of a
brainiac Supergirl romance like you wanted, it looks like they're
toying with that in this release to Blu Ray Animated

(13:03):
feature Cool. Well, and that is our thirty seconds or less.
It only lasted thirteen minutes, so I think we did
a good job. Hey, you win some and you lose some,
to be to be honest, y'all, Like moments before we
started recording, we made the executive decision to move a

(13:24):
story out of thirty seconds or less because we knew
that we were going to go on about it way
longer than anything we just discussed, and like the first
what five six minutes of this was intro and then
talking about how you can't see our jazz hands, which
is entirely pertinent to geek culture. Yeah, well, I mean,
come on theater, geeks, we we jazz hands are sacred. Uh.

(13:50):
Before we get into all the news, one of the
things we wanted to kind of touch base on was that,
you know, last week I talked about how I had
watched the first episode of Last of Us that absolutely
destroyed me, partly because I was anticipating what was coming
because I had played the game. I watched the second
episode and that one did not destroy me. I enjoyed it.

(14:12):
And there are some significant changes from what happens in
the game, and I think for the purposes of this
version of the story, all the changes worked. Like the
thing that I find phenomenal is that this is an
adaptation that continues to be a really good adaptation of
the video game, which is a rare thing to say.

(14:33):
But now Ariel has seen what just the first episode
so far, just the first episode, because it's so long. Well,
the second episode does not last an hour and a half.
It is closer to an hour. But yeah, that first episode.
I think originally they had talked about it being two episodes,
but it was hard to figure out where to put
a break. And also, I will say especially for shows

(14:56):
where because I'm actually watching this and then I have
a group watch that my friend started during the pandemic,
or get together once a week online and watch group
watch of shows We've started Hunters on Amazon um and
when you have a show, Both of these shows have
kind of difficult beginnings and difficult setups and they need them,

(15:16):
right because that's what sets the tone and the conflict
for the show. If you break it up into multiple episodes,
you might, like you said, if the second episode was
just as hard, you probably wouldn't continue watching Last of Us, right, Well,
I definitely would be thinking about backing out for my
own mental health. Yeah, yeah, yeah, because like I've had
friends who said that they are afraid to even start

(15:38):
the show because well, they thought the video game was brilliant,
they weren't happy playing it. They were miserable at the
things they had to keep doing and they don't want
to relive it. Um. But I mean that's fair because
those spoilers. But it's not like it's not like the terrible,
terrible thing that starts the whole series is the only

(15:59):
to horrible thing. There are a lot of other ones,
including a very pivotal one that I'm not looking forward to,
so I'm sure that's coming. What I will say, having
watched the first episode is one brilliant acting, brilliant uh cinematography.
I think that the balance of of scary, horror, tense, suspense, sorrow,

(16:24):
all that things, all the things you expect with Last
of Us are very well balanced with super relatable moments
that are lovable. Um, I didn't know what the heart,
not playing the video game and not looking at spoilers
for once, I decided I was going to tough it
through so I could give an honest reaction to what happened.

(16:45):
Honestly it was. I teared up a little bit when
the hard moment came in the first episode, but very briefly,
and I was over it, and I like I knew
something was going to happen, and I figured out what
character or characters if you aren't familiar, don't want to
spoil it too much. It was going to happen too,
But when it happened, I was surprised. It's not what
I expected. And because of that, I think it was

(17:07):
easier for me. I didn't have the same like mortification
going through the first episode that you've expressed John Well,
And I think part of it is that the unexpected
way that it happens. So when I was playing the game,
obviously I had no I had no idea of what
was going to happen. I didn't know that, you know,
how this was going to affect characters. I just assumed

(17:30):
that things were going to be hunky dory, okay for
for certain people, and it turned out that was very
much not what was going to happen. And the way
that the the hard moment unfolds, I know we're talking
super vague, but again, this is one of those things
that if you want to see it, you need to
see it with like with the ability to discover it

(17:51):
um but the way it unfolds to me it even
hit harder because not to give too much away, but
the unness necessary nature of it all made it much
more tragic. And if you also think about that in
terms of things that have happened in our own world
over the last ten years, like unnecessary tragedies that have happened. Uh,

(18:18):
it hits super hard because you're you're sitting there thinking like,
this was this was so avoidable, Not not on the
protagonists part they couldn't avoid it, but the other party,
it was so avoidable, and it it's it's like I say,
you know, it's like when you when you know the

(18:38):
outcome of a tragedy and you're watching the thing unfold,
you're wishing so hard for anything else to happen. Yeah. Yeah,
you're like, please change it, Please have them change it
right now in the script. Yeah, somehow, somehow the thing
that's already been shot, have that change right now. I

(19:00):
have legitimately thought that, like as I'm watching movies before
the same here. I mean, as I've been as I've
watched movies I have already seen and I'm watching it
a second time. I'm sitting there thinking that. But but
it is really interesting. Like I said, I I quite
enjoyed the first episode. I'm looking forward to getting to

(19:20):
the second. I know they're going to be hard things.
I feel like it's more balanced and the people are
more personal than let's say, the Walking Dead. Yeah. Yeah.
And and and also understanding why people are the way
they you, I mean, you specifically understand why Joel is
the way he is, Like you understand, yeah, he's he's

(19:41):
the one that Pedro Pascal plays and um, and you
understand why he is the way he is, and you
might not agree with all of his decisions, but you
understand why he's making them the way he is. Yeah, which, Okay,
I gotta i gotta make a slight aside and then
I'm going to get back. I'm going to get back
to this. Uh. There was an interview on tech talk
because yeah, I do the TikTok's uh with the Pedro

(20:06):
Pascal and then the actress who plays a girl whose
name is escaping me at the moment, but Bella I
think is something. Yeah, I know. But they were talking
about how people were calling Pedro Pascal a Zaddi, which is,
you know, like a sexy daddy but older. He's not
old enough to be a zaddie. He's only forty seven.
And like even when I was young, I was like,

(20:27):
for me, Zaddi's were like mid fifties to sixties. So
y'all just give him, give him some grace. He's still
pretty young. Yeah that means I'm also not in Zadi
territory yet, so y'all just calm yourself down. But it
is also interesting because, like I said, I'm watching Hunters,
which we talked about in an episode a long time
ago when the first season came out to It's an

(20:49):
Amazon streaming show about um, basically people who hunt and
stopped and killed Nazis in the seventies. It's a it
is super well done. It's a but it's very dark
and it's very hard to watch and there's a lot
of craftness in it because of the subject matter and
there and things like that. So I actually, as much

(21:10):
as I enjoy that show and I think it's telling
a good story, the first two episodes are largely set
up UM, and I think every episodes can going to
kind of be that way because it's plots unfolding and
subterfuge unfolding as it happens. I find Last of Us
easier to watch because it's fictional. Yeah, more fictional, yeah

(21:32):
yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, there's there were actual Nazis and honestly,
there still are today like people at least who aligned
themselves with the Nazi philosophy. But as far as we
are aware, there are no fungal zombies running around, not
human ones anyway. Yes, yes, but not yes knock out

(21:54):
what Jonathan knock? I mean like, I haven't checked the
news since we start recording, But I'm just I'm maintaining
some optimism here. Yeah. Yeah, but I've also watched night
Court and if you just need something completely silly, I
don't remember if I talked about this last week. It's
dumb fun. It is literally just a reboot of night Court.

(22:14):
I think I did talk about it. So yeah, if
you watch Last of Us or Hunters or anything else
and you're like, I just need something fun, go and
watch Nichord. It's adorable. Yeah. I I still because I
don't have that's that's on Peacock, right, it's on Peacock,
but you can watch it on Hulu. Yeah. Those are
two things I do not have access to right now.

(22:34):
So so once again, my lack of access has meant
that I am not watching certain programming. But I've seen
little clips and and I get it, like it does
feel an awful lot like night Cored, which is interesting
because I'm curious how well it's doing because that style
of humor, it's it gets a little more than a

(22:56):
little corny, like it's like that super corny, sit calm
style from the eighties and early nineties. And I'm not sure.
I mean, maybe that flies fine today. I don't really
have a gauge for that. I mean, Fuller House was
a thing, so maybe Fuller House is a thing. During
the pandemic, Family Matters had a huge resurgence, so you know,

(23:19):
I think. I think it's just sometimes people need happy, fun,
slightly mindless, entertaining media. Yeah, I mean, I certainly do
on occasion. There there's a reason why I will fall
back on watching old episodes of Community, and it's because

(23:39):
sometimes I need some Troy and a bed in the morning. Shoot,
I still need to watch I've watched one more episode
since we said the Community is coming out, that I
got a lot of episodes to get through before this summer, then,
don't you. Well, I think they're actually said they were
going to start shooting it the summer, so you still
have a little more time. I do, which is good
because I still have all those Apple TV shows that

(24:01):
we want to watch and talk about, uh, one of
which we're going to talk about later in this episode.
So let's get back into some some news that we
have a little bit more to say on than our
supposed thirty seconds or less. Yeah, and first up is
I'm sure a lot of people, anyone who's a fan
of Rick and Morty has certainly heard about this, but
this was one that was really in the news big

(24:21):
time this week. Earlier this week we thought we would
touch on it, which is Justin Royland, co creator of
Rick and Morty, along with like Dan Harmon was speaking
of community, he was, he was the guy behind community.
Dan Harmon not not justin Royland, Justin Royland has been
essentially fired from Rick and Morty as well as from
Squatch Games, which is the game studio that put out

(24:45):
things like uh High on Life, the recent first person
shooter that was kind of a hit, got on game
Pass and got really popular. He's the one who does
the voices for both Rick and Morty, so he's got
that very like he does a ton of different character
voices for the show and for those games. Uh. The
reason for the firing is because of allegations of domestic abuse,

(25:09):
sexual harassment, lots of really disturbing stuff that has been
coming out over the last week or two weeks. Uh, terrible,
terrible things for anyone to do. So I think that
these organizations and shows and games and all this kind
of stuff, I think they're all doing the right thing
in cutting off their connection with him, because I mean,

(25:33):
these these sort of properties are what gave him a
lot of the power to pursue these sorts of bad
choices that have caused who knows how much trauma to
his victims. So terrible thing to hear. And I'm sure
there are a lot of Rick and Morty fans because
those are the most reasonable people on the planet. I'm

(25:54):
sure there are a lot of Rick and Morty plant
fans out there who are up in arms about this.
But come on, y'all, I mean, this is a legit
reason to part ways with somebody. Yes, yes, I agree,
I agree. Um, it'll be it'll be interesting to see
how everything turns out. Basically, I'm I'm not a fan

(26:16):
of Rick and Morty. Yeah, I mean it's I enjoyed
Rick and Morty. It is a hard show to watch
on occasion because it does have it does dance a
lot around nihilism, where you just have like nothing means anything,
and so why worry about anything? Like why even bother
putting forth an effort, Because if nothing means nothing, then

(26:40):
nothing you do matters. It doesn't matter if you do
a good impact or a bad impact. Nothing means nothing
in the long run. I'm like, that's so bleak that
I don't think I can stick with it for very long. Uh.
Individual episodes can be really entertaining, and I did watch
I think the first two seasons, but I fell off

(27:00):
after that. It is interesting to know that the show
is going to continue without him, which means that these
characters are all going to be voiced by different people
in the future. We don't know who. Um. So, I
guess if you do a really good Morty, you should
audition if you if you can get one. There are
lots of people who are really good at just doing impressions.
I think you probably won't even be able to tell

(27:23):
when it actually comes down to it that someone else
replaced him. Yeah. A friend of the show, uh Shay
told me that I should do it because I could
do a good Rick and Morty, And I said I
could maybe do a Morty, but I definitely can't do
a Rick because I can't burp on command, let alone
right in the middle of you know, select words. You see,

(27:44):
it's for me Rick and Morty. It's even less than
nihilism and more just gross. I don't think I don't
like grass cartoons. We we all know this. It's not
it's not we talked about last week. Yeah. Uh so
let's let's go from you know, what is not gross?
All of the animated feature films nominated for Oscars. Yeah,

(28:05):
the Oscars, those are gross, But the films that were
nominated Oscars are not gross. Now everyone knows that I
don't like awards, but yeah, we wanted to talk a
little bit about some of these things that were nominated
for the Oscars because, uh, there's some geek properties that
are represented in some of the nominations. Yeah. In fact,

(28:26):
I think that every Everything, Everywhere, all at once might
have the most nominations of all all the movies this year. Yeah.
I think they have eleven, which makes them puts them
in the lead. Yeah, and also nominated are uh The Whale,
which is not a geeky movie, but it's got Brendan Fraser.
So Fraser. Yeah, you're right, Sorry, Brendan Fraser. Uh so

(28:52):
automatically I'm rooting for him. Um, it's got Black Panthers nominated.
Angela Angela A. Bassett scored a nomination for Actress in
a Supporting Role for Wakonda Forever, which I still haven't
seen it, but it's coming to Disney Plus like in
next week, so I'll watch it soon. And if you

(29:12):
haven't watched everything everywhere all at once, it's on showtime
or you can actually some theaters are are playing it
right now, so like you go to the Positive Theater
and watch it right now. If I bought the four
K Blu ray to that without ever having seen the movie,
and I was so delighted by it. It was one
of those things where I'm like, gosh, I sure, hope,
but you know, like the cost of a DVD, it's

(29:34):
less than what it would have cost me to buy
two movie tickets, right, so it's hard to get or
it's just that you own it forever, you know, and
you're like, I hope I like this, but no, I
really liked it. It's really a charming fun uh and
original film and low budget like that's that's the great thing.

(29:55):
It doesn't. It doesn't look like it though. That's what's great.
I mean, neither did what was District nine District nine
blew me away, and that that was also lower budget
and an unknown director at the time, so uh, you know,
and the Oscars do like artsy things and things that
harken back to Hollywood. Hence that I haven't watched The

(30:18):
Fableman's Maybe it's amazing, but it's definitely about young kids
in Hollywood, and that it's got a bunch of nominations. Yeah,
there's a there's an ongoing joke that if you want
to get nominated for an Oscar, just make a movie
about making movies and that will do it. Because it's
so um. I was going to use one word, but
instead I'll say self congratulatory, which is a nicer way

(30:40):
of saying what I was going to say. It's really
interesting to me because usually under animated feature film, we
have like two Pixar movies, right, we technically have to
Disney movies this year that are nominated, but one of
them got very little Turning Red got, you know, very
little publicity, and Gamo de Toro's Panocke, you know, doesn't

(31:01):
exactly scream Disney, although I think it is it can
you watch on disneyse or just Netflix. I don't think
Yamo del Toro's is Disney and Disney at all. Yeah,
you're right, so so yeah, so Disney only has Turning Red.
The others are Yama do Toro's Pinocchio, Marcela Shellis Shoes On,
which is lovely because how delightful posting Boots, The Last Wish,

(31:22):
and The Sea Beast. Yeah. Yeah, I really like Turning
Red though, I mean, I don't know that it's Oscar worthy,
but it is a very entertaining and charming film. And
and Abby is my favorite character. She's much fun. Though
she be little, she is fierce. Yes. It is interesting

(31:44):
because when you go down to Best Picture there are
movies listed that it's like, did they have to put
this movie on the list because they have no other
They have no other nominations anywhere. But you also have
thinks like Avatar. The Way of Water is one of
the nominees for Best Picture. Everywhere, Everything Everywhere, All at

(32:05):
Once is also nominated for Best Picture. Top Gun. Maverick
has been nominated for Best Picture, which if you had
told me back in the eighties after Top Gun came
out that you know, like thirty more years later, you're
going to get a sequel to this and they'll be
nominated for an Academy Award for Best Picture. I would
have thought you were insane. So I liked Top Gun

(32:26):
back when I watched it. I barely remember it. I
haven't watched a new one, but apparently a lot of
people liked it, so I know that. Yeah. I mean
I heard a lot of people really enjoy that movie.
I still haven't seen it, and I have a feeling
that by the time I do see it, I won't
really appreciate it because it definitely feels like it was
the kind of movie that was made for the theatrical experience. Yeah,

(32:47):
I've got a question for you. Elvis is also nominated
for Best Picture and a couple of other things. Does
a bas Lerman movie about a music artist count as geekdom?
I mean, everything's geeky to somebody bas Leerman, Well, first yes,
but secondly, Basil Lerman I think has a devoted following

(33:07):
of of former and current theater kids. Because of Basil
Lerman's other work like Mulan Rouge and Romeo and Juliet.
Uh so maybe I have never liked Basil Lerman style. Uh,
it is just it is not it doesn't appeal to me.
I'm not saying it's bad, That's not what I mean.

(33:29):
I mean that I find it unappealing personally. And uh
and so I haven't sought out this film at all, Like,
I didn't have any interest in seeing it, because unless
Basi Lerman style has changed dramatically, I don't know that
I could really stomach the thought of watching an entire film. Yeah,

(33:51):
a couple other geeky movies that got nominations. Uh, I
agree with you on Basilerman. Sorry, I like that's that's
how I feel about bessler Man. My mind already went
off to something else. The Batman got nominated for music,
which of all the things in The Batman, that's what
I liked the best. And plus Onion got nominated for

(34:13):
Adapted Screenplay and sound and sound as well, which which
you know, like the sound design in The Batman was
very very good. Whereas Avatar The Way of Water, I
didn't like the sound of that. Everything sounded wet. That
was a joke. Yeah, because I haven't seen Avatara. It
took me a second was like, did you see it

(34:34):
and you didn't tell me? I'm going to be very
cross at you, John, of course, not like, dare you
not tell me everything that you do? And Plus if
I went to see it, I still haven't seen the
first one, so I'd mostly be going there thinking like, oh,
this is just like that ride at Animal Kingdom where
I have no idea what the hell is happening. It's pretty,
but I have no context, and so it means nothing

(34:56):
to me. On a on a recent episode of a
bim Bam, Justin mcilroyd talks about going to see Avatar
with the Way of Water and it's hilarious. If you're
also the family, you should watch it. Yes, he might
have done it well well, perhaps aided by medicinal um things. Yes. Anyhow,

(35:20):
that's how you get things like the Razzie Awards, which
we're going to talk about next. Yeah, So the Razzies,
and if you're not familiar, the Razzies are kind of
a tongue in cheek uh quote unquote awards show where
this group of folks pick out the worst of stuff

(35:40):
to come out in Hollywood. So a film that is
just a complete train wreck could get nominated for a Razzie.
Worst Performance is a category. It's you know, it's meant
to make fun of misfires essentially, and in some case
says like it's. In fact, on a lot of cases,

(36:03):
it can be a high profile, big budget film that
just didn't work for whatever reason. I have not always
agreed with some of the Razzies nominations. I felt that
in some cases I thought, wow, you're being unfair because
this movie was meant to be kind of a a
send up or something like. It wasn't meant to be

(36:23):
taken seriously, and to hold it to that is unfair.
But there's a different objection this year, Yeah, and that's
that they nominated a twelve year old actress, UH Ryan
Kira Armstrong for Worst Actress. She was in the reboot
of uh fire Starter, which is a Stephen King novel um.

(36:46):
The original one star Drew Barrymore and this one stars
Ryan Kira Armstrong and Zac Efron, and a bunch of
people said, you should you shouldn't do that to a
twelve year old one. It could hurt her career and too.
More importantly, when you're a kid, you don't always you're

(37:08):
still learning, right, and a lot of it is directorial
or writing choices, and you may not have the There
are some people like Michelle Nichols who could take any
script and make it art. Um. That takes years and
years and years of practice and knowledge and confidence, confidence

(37:29):
and fine tuning your craft. It's you know, I'm sure
there are twelve year olds out there who could do that. Um.
But it's it's just not a very kind or nice
thing to do. And I feel like that's a lot
of the Razzies. I used to enjoy them, but I
feel like it's a little too mean spirited. It's a
little too mean spirited. Maybe it's a product for a
bygone era at this point. Yeah, I agree, like the

(37:53):
the Razzies like when it's done really tongue in cheek,
like like, oh well this didn't turn out the way
you wanted it too, and it can be done in
a lighthearted way. You can have fun with it. I mean,
there have actually been actors who have shown up to
the Razzies and accepted their award in person and that yeah,

(38:14):
because they're like, yeah, you're right, that was a stinker.
That was not my best work, and thank you for
the award and like, you know, they have fun with it,
they own it. But yeah, it's different when you're a kid.
And I think there's no better way of thinking about
this than to consider the sad story of Jake Lloyd,
who played Anakin Skywalker in the in The Phantom Menace,

(38:37):
who also got nominated for a Razzie. Yeah, and don't
get me wrong, I hated his performance. I hate it.
I did not like that. I did not like The
Phantom Menace. I hated Jake Lloyd's performance in that movie.
At no point did I blame him because George Lucas

(38:58):
is a terrible direct It's true, he's a bad director.
When when your two directions are faster and more intense,
and that's it, you are a bad director. Work can
work for some things, but it definitely it doesn't have
ebbs and flows if that's what you're doing. McAuley culkin
also got had gotten nominated for three performances in when

(39:22):
he was still a kid. And yeah, so I think
the bigger problem I have is that originally, they the
runners of the Razzies kind of said she's she's only twelve,
but she is an experienced actress, and uh, you know,
so because she also was in uh Black Widow and

(39:45):
the Tomorrow War. Uh. But eventually they removed her from
the category and apologize, just like last year they got
rid of the worst category or the category force performance
by Bruce Willis. So like, I kind of I kind
of don't like that they got defensive at first. I
understand it, but I don't agree with it. But I

(40:06):
am glad that they are trying to make corrections when
they realize that maybe something they've done is more harmful
than funny. Yeah, I agree. I think being defensive it's
a natural reaction, one that you have to work to suppress.
I know personally, that's one of the things that I
really struggle with, Like if if I encounter so I'm

(40:27):
being nasty to me on Twitter, I have to I
have to actively suppress my desire to fire back, um
and and I don't always succeed. And so I agree,
like I wish that they had been able to withhold
that initial response, but the fact that they're actually trying

(40:49):
to make good on it now I think speaks volumes.
And I also agree. I think it's just as crappy
to dump on kids like just don't like don't because
you know, it's not their fault. Most of the time,
when a performance is bad, it's that, you know, for
whatever reason, the director was unable or unwilling to work

(41:12):
with the kid to get a good performance out or
whatever they wanted, And that to me just says that
the director really has fallen far short of where they
need to be. Look, and there are certainly kids that
have There's certainly kids that have, you know, a huge

(41:34):
amount of self confidence, and it can it can be
hard to break through that. You know. Um, kids can
think that they are right above adults so easily. Um.
But yeah, it's if you've got a good working team,
then you can work through that. Yeah. Well, now we're
getting to the news story. Believe it or not. This
is the forty minutes in. This is the news story

(41:56):
that was originally in the thirty seconds or less and
we moved it up to news and it's that Schmiga
Dune season two, which will begin in April, uh is
going to have the characters who are stuck in musical
world now transition into a world of musicals based around
the sixties and seventies era musicals, namely Chicago. So it's

(42:21):
going to be called Chicago. Yeah, and so because the
obviously the first one being Schmiga Dune, was a play
on Briga Dune, this one being a play on the
the Chicago musical. I thought the reason why I thought
we should move this over into full discussion is because one,

(42:41):
I am delighted that they're from one season to the next,
they're transitioning from one style of musical to a totally
different style of musical. And also it makes me excited
about what could potentially come in the future should there
be subsequent seasons of this show. And first off, let's

(43:02):
kind of talk about the differences between the classic era
of musicals, like the Rogers and Hammerstein era of musicals,
and then what we started to get in the sixties
and seventies. And so you think back on like the
big musicals of the classic era, stuff like Brigadoon or
My Fair Lady or The Music Man or Name or

(43:27):
South Pacific or Oklahoma all these things. Uh, they're these big,
lush musicals that are mostly wholesome, or at least they
attempt to be wholesome in the middle, Like they're not
very edgy. Most of these classic musicals. You know, there's
there's obviously there's there's conflict, because without conflict you have

(43:49):
no story. But they're not edgy romantic era. Yes, in
the sixties and seventies decided to get way more edgy
and and kind of sleazy and dirty. So the sleazy era, which,
by the way, if that sounded weird, it's because my

(44:10):
connection cut out right in the middle of my long
diet tribe about the history of musicals. But the sleazy
eras when we got things like Chicago, we got Cabaret,
which is very dark musical. Uh we we started to
get Sondheim's work, like early kind of dark and cynical work,
which would continue on throughout most of his career. And yeah,

(44:33):
it's a very different sound and style and theme from
the musicals that came before. It, much more cynical than
the kind of sincere musicals of the past. And so
I suspect that's going to really inform season two of
this show. Yeah, I I'm looking forward to to. I

(44:58):
I know, like the fifties and sixties generation of musicals
is outdated. There's a lot of you know, old school
lines of thought and storylines and plots in there, but
I still really enjoy it as a product of its
of its day and time. I like Chicago a lot Cabaret.
It's interesting that you're like the air of the sixties

(45:18):
and seventies was just kind of like grungier and grittier
and more crass, because like both two of two of
the uh musicals that you mentioned, Chicago and Cabaret, are
not set in the sixties and seventies. Well, no, but
then a lot of the musicals from the classic era
of musicals are set in like you know, early nine hundreds,

(45:42):
music Man, Oklahoma, that kind of stuff. That's true. I
there are lots of sixties and seventies musicals I like.
I can say, like I'm looking forward to the second
season of Spigadoon. I guess I'm looking forward to Chicago.
I don't know if you can call it the second
season of Schmigadoon. Uh, but I definitely it's not my
favorite era of of musical person. It's not my favorite,

(46:07):
But there are some like I think Cabaret is brilliant.
I think Chicago is entertaining. I don't think it's brilliant. Um.
I think, uh, you know, you get into things like
God's Spell, you know, you get into some other stuff
where like hair, you get into some musicals that are
a little more psychedelic, because that's also what you get

(46:29):
in this era, right, not just the sleazy grungy, but
the psychedelic and the spiritual musicals start to rise in
the sixties and seventies, and I wouldn't be surprised if
some of that plays out. Like if they have a
character who is kind of the hippie type character who
is is supposed to be sort of the stand in
for all the spiritual musicals. I think that could be

(46:51):
a lot of fun. But what this really has to
be excited for is that they're able to do a
third series of the show, a third season the show
that will get the spectacle musical season because you look
at the eighties, Oh my gosh, is it bombastic, over
the top special effects, huge sets, huge casts. Are you

(47:15):
Are you saying this because of Starlight Express? I think
that's seventies, but I could be wrong. Well, technically, yes,
Starlight Express was towards the end of the seventies. But
now I'm thinking I am thinking about a lot about
Andrew laid Webber, Like Andrew Lloyd Webber owned the early
eighties with like Phantom of the Opera and Cats. Goodness knows,
Cats dominated the discussion and musicals for a while. I

(47:36):
actually like Cats. I have seen Cats three times in theater,
like as in the actual full musical. It is the
first show I ever saw on Broadway. I never wanted
to see it, and I've seen it three times. I
mean again, I like the spectacle musical. You know. One
of the things I liked about seeing Beetlejuice over the

(47:56):
summer was the stagecraft that spect to go right. Yeah,
so um, I get that. I look forward to it too.
It's interesting to me because we're getting all of the
character all the actors we loved, Cecily strong Key, Allen Cuming,
you know, Jakokowski, Dove Cameron, all those people, christ and
chanow eppin More and Aaron Tvette, uh to vi it, toright,

(48:21):
thank you. But we are also getting Titus Burgess and
Patrick Page, and I don't I don't know either of
them would be the best hippie. Maybe Patrick Page. We're
getting oh my god, oh my god, oh a base
hippie like not Bassis and b A S C. I
mean b A S S that guy like so he

(48:45):
was Hades in Hades Town in the original cast, and
his voice he can go so low it is like
it will rumble your seat, that's how low he can
get his voice to go. Um. And he recently left
the role of Hades on Broadway after after essentially being
with that show with every iteration once it had started development,

(49:08):
all the way to going to Broadway. I could gush
about him forever. Also, did you know that he married
the woman who was the host of Trading Spaces on
uh TLC way back in the day, whose first name
is Page, so she's technically Page Page. I didn't know that,
but that is delightful. Um. I'm excited about Titus Burgess.

(49:29):
I love him. I didn't know who he was until
Kimmi Schmidt. Yeah, but he played He played Sebastian the
Crab in the Broadway version of Little Mermaid. Yeah, yeah,
he said a bunch of stuff. He auditioned for The
Lion King a bunch of times, and I feel a
little bit feeled him there because I also auditioned for
the Lion King. I did not get it. They were
not looking for my type at all. Uh, it was

(49:50):
the touring show. I wanted to be a hyena that
didn't happen. It's fine, it's fine. She's totally over it now.
I'm totally over it now. I mean everything in my
You know, you have experiences in life, and they always
lead up to where you are now. And I'm happy
where I am now. I love the life I've had
so far, and I look forward to everything in the future.

(50:12):
So that's just a wonderful, cool experience in the long
list of experiences I've had. That being said, if they
don't get to the Julie Taymor era of musicals within
this series and they don't bring Titus Burgess back for
the Lion King, I will be sorely disappointed. Yeah, well,
I think about it like this opens up so many
other Like I never thought that this was how they

(50:34):
were going to go. Firstly, because that whole classic era
of musicals, there's so many you could touch on. Like
they obviously took inspiration from the biggest names in those
those musicals, but there are a lot of other ones
that are out there that they could have tapped into
as well. So the idea of going forward in that

(50:54):
and potentially doing it again and maybe even again means
that like three seas from now, we can look forward
to the jukebox musical version of Schmick a Dune, Yeah,
which will come with a whole host of technical ramifications
that they have to work through. Um. I'm delighted because honestly,

(51:15):
I wasn't sure when Schamiga Dune came out if we
were only going to get one season. Yeah, like because
some shows, some shows are built that way. It's like,
we have this fun idea, but it's a mini series
because that's all we've got. So I'm so delighted. I
you know, I absolutely love I'm still missing Gallivant. Um. Yeah.

(51:36):
I actually bought that on DVD so that I could
watch it whenever I wanted to. I love that show
so much, um, and I'm really looking forward to it,
and also also to have to get go into Chicago
into that sixties and seventies era with Alan coming on
your cast. How perfect. I mean I saw Allen coming

(51:57):
in Cabaret and so yeah, I will forever be kicking
myself that I wasn't sitting on an aisle where he
came out and picked people to dance with. And I
couldn't dance with Ellen Guming on stage at Broadway. Yeah,
I have a friend. I have a friend who has
done a few fundraiser things with him, and she always
talks very highly of him. That's cool. Yeah, I'm also

(52:21):
very curious to see his his character in the show Traders,
the reality show murder mystery thing that I'll talk about.
I don't even know what like. I still don't know
what to think about that. Well, for one thing, he's
speaking in his normal, his actual accent, which is you're
like what, yeah, uh, well, you know you're really looking

(52:42):
forward to Chicago, And now I know because there's a
new trailer out that has completely addressed all of our
concerns for the live action Dungeons and Dragon's movie. So
you're looking forward to that now too, right, Ariel more
than you? I mean, that's fair. Probably everybody is looking

(53:03):
forward to it more than I am. So uh. Jonathan
watched this new trailer before I did. I was like,
am I just losing my sense of humor? They? I
know they put jokes in here, but they just aren't
very funny to me. And when I watched it, I
agree that the jokes that they put in there were
not funny. Taken out of context, I could see how
they might be humorous in a story where I have

(53:27):
already learned the characters and I am in the middle
of their journey with them. But I do feel like
this trailer, taking those jokes out of context made it
not funny. That being said, I am really looking forward
to um Renee Sean Page and um gosh, Justice Smith.

(53:49):
I do like their banter back and forth in the
in the trailer, I think Justice Smith looks like the
most fun character so far. I don't know is that
I get his name right. Maybe Honestly, at this point,
I've given up on this movie. So um I so.

(54:09):
So there's one gag. It's it's at the end of
the trailer, right, and that's you want people when they're
seeing the trailer, you want that last shot to be
your your, your hook. That's definitely gonna hook them to
come and see the movie. And the gag is that
you have a character who's explaining that the path forward
has this massive trap associated with it and they have

(54:30):
to be very careful. And meanwhile, in the background, you
see that one of the characters is moving forward, takes
one step onto this bridge, the whole bridge collapses, and
then the guys like I triggered the mechanism or I
think I may have triggered the mechanism. And I'm like,
it's an old, old joke. You see it coming from
a mile away because we've seen movies before. If you

(54:52):
if D and D is your first movie, first I'm sorry,
and second maybe it'll surprise you. But otherwise it won't.
And I couldn't even muster up a chuckle. I mean again,
it fell a little flat. I I look more forward
to seeing certain people play the characters in their play

(55:13):
that they're playing, Like Chris Pine playing a rogue then
or whatever. He's playing a bard, yeah, which is brilliant.
You know. He was also the prince in in the
movie version of Once Upon Uh into the Woods ha,
the the like the the theatrical movie, not the Bernardette
Peters brilliant stage. Yeah. So like I look forward to

(55:40):
seeing them in those characters. The storyline hasn't grabbed me,
the jokes don't look great. I'm still going to see it.
If I can go in expecting nothing, I'm hoping it
will at least hit Van Helsing level of entertainment for me. Yeah,
I mean I think it could definitely hit Van Helsing
level quality. You listen. I enjoyed that movie, okay, and

(56:07):
it all goes it all. It all comes down to
what expectations I set going in to see a movie. Well,
let's talk about a totally different trailer we also saw
this week, which is for a very different kind of movie,
and that was the trailer for She Came from the Woods.
Because it's not a week unless Jonathan makes me watch
a horror trailer. Now. To be fair, I feel like

(56:31):
this horror movie is almost like a horror comedy or
maybe a horror with some comedic elements to it because
it opens like it's wet, hot American summer. It does,
but you see, Okay, so I have thoughts on this,
and this is exactly where my thoughts are. They're playing
it like it should be a a wet, hot American

(56:52):
summer horror like it it should be a dark comedy, right,
But it doesn't look funny all They play fun, happy music,
but there's no humor in the trailer to me, just
because they try to set that tone, like, none of
the scripting leads to that for me. I mean, you've
got the little kid who's being very rude to the

(57:15):
counselor as the kids walking along on crutches. Um, So
like there's there's like some stuff there where I'm like,
I think I see where they're going. Maybe the trailer
is trying to lean into that too hard, and it's
trying to make it into something that's not kind of
like how like when I think of trailers that ended

(57:35):
up being a bad representation or maybe ultimately a good
representation of the movie Suicide Squad, the not the James gunwin,
but the first one is one I think about where like,
because the trailer got a big reaction, they actually the
studio went back and recut the film to be more
like the trailer, which did not do the movie any favors. Um.

(57:59):
And we've seen other movies where the trailer that you
get is not necessarily a good representation of the film.
In some cases, it's because the film itself is very
hard to market, Like it's how do you market this movie?
And you may just have to be like, well, we're
gonna have to do a bait and switch because we
can't market it the way it is. And maybe that's

(58:20):
the case with this one. Um. But yeah, it didn't
it didn't look well, it didn't look particularly scary. To me,
I mean, we've so the kid on crutches wasn't really
funny to me. And maybe I'm having the reaction you
had to the D and D trailer with this, because yeah,
they started it, and the way that it was edited
and the way that it was scored felt like it

(58:42):
should have some funny punches in there at the very
least Cabin Cabin in the Wood, she came from the woods. No,
I'm saying, at least similar to Cabin and Oh Got
You Got You, Got You Got You, which was very scary,
but also had some very funny self self reference a
moments in it. Um, but it was written just like Friday, like, yeah,

(59:05):
there were Bradty kids. But in any camp horror story
with which we've had many, you know, children's camp is
a great place to set a serial killer or a
scary ghost or whatever. That's why people tell ghost stories
at them. I've never been to a children's camp, like
a sleepover camp like that, but um, you know it's
it's a big part of it. It just it felt

(59:29):
just like a horror movie with there. It didn't feel
like they actually put in any jokes. To me, It's
what it felt like was at least the trailer. The
trailer felt like what the trailer was trying for was wet,
hot American summer meets Blair Witch project. That's kind of
what I came away from. I didn't think it did
either successfully. I didn't think that. I didn't think it
was coming across funny enough to be a comedy, And

(59:51):
it didn't look it didn't look inventive enough to be
an interesting horror movie. It might be a very good
version of what it is, which looks like kind of
you know, a ghost in the woods or some supernatural
force in the woods, stalking camp counselor movies, and as

(01:00:12):
you say, areeal. We have had a whole bunch of
these over the years. Yeah, the eighties had like thirty
of these movies. So, um, I don't know if it's
going to do anything new with the formula to make
it stand out. It may just end up being a
decent version of that kind of story. But yeah, I

(01:00:34):
don't think it really nails the super scary horror or
the very funny, dark comedy kind of stuff in the
last Yeah, in the last ten years, wasn't there. I know.
I watched this, there was like some horror comedy that
came out that was about like a theater summer camp

(01:00:55):
that was kind of funny. I don't remember. I don't
think i've seen that one. It was like a B
level movie. I'll have to if anybody out there knows
what it is, good on you if you want to, yes, hey,
riff for a bit, because I'm gonna look look it up. Okay, Well,
I'll just say that theater Camp is a horror all

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by itself, and you don't need anything else on top
of it other than a bunch of theater kids all
in a camp at the same time, because that's gonna
get scary in ways you don't anticipate. Stage Fright was
the name of it. I had not heard of this movie.
I'll have to look it up now. It uh started
Ali McDonald, Douglas Smith, Mini Driver, meat Loaf and Brandon

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euroanoits or whatever from several years ago. It's from two
thousand fourteen, So I said about ten years ago. It's
really dumb. It's not a good movie. It's like a
B movie. But it was entertaining this I think because
I saw that that's what I wanted. She came from
the woods to be from the opening riff, and that's
not what it was. Uh. Speaking of trailers that are

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successful or not, did you think this m TO trailer
was successful? I wrote in the notes that said, I
think this trailer is better than the first one in
the sense that it gives me a little bit of
a better appreciation of what is going on in the
second movie, beyond just shots of people turning into their
heroic versions and then going all PS four battle scene, um,

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which we've seen a billion times, both in d C
and in Marvel. Marvel is really guilty of this. We've
talked about it how Marvel movies often can be really
entertaining and then you get to the last fight and
it all kind of just turns into a video game. Um.
That was the problem I had with the first ZAM trailer.
First trailer four Sheasam to. I can't say the first

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Sheasam trailer, but but yeah, this one I felt gave
us a little bit more about the conflict going on
and about how Billy Is is struggling with what is
in front of him. And I appreciated this trailer more.
It still doesn't make me want to watch the movie.

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I watched the first one and I thought it was fine.
Um as for d C standards, I thought it was great,
Beau because it because compared to other DC movies it
was joyful. But um, halfway it was halfway joyful. Well,
if you compare it to the stuff that came before it,
you compared to Batman versus Superman, it was it was

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positively a day at the State Fair compared like the
villain eating people's heads off day at the State Fair
with a pez dispenser. So um. But yeah, this this
one I thought was a better trailer. I I don't.
It's not gonna get me into the theater to see it,
which is unfortunate because again, this is definitely one of

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those movies that's going to benefit from the theatrical experience
because there's a lot of spectacle involved. But it's as
I get older, spectacle is not enough to tempt me
into the theater. I get it. I will say for
this trailer for me, I found she'sam One very the
first she'sam So, she'sam one uneven. Some of it was

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delightful and funny, and some of it was super dark,
and so I was like, who is this for? But
but the second one looks a little bit more evenly balanced. Um.
I think going into it knowing how the first one was,
I'll enjoy it more. I agree, I think it's it
looks a little bit better to me than the first one. Um.
I also see how if they were going to take

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this movie to wrap up the Chasam storyline, how they
could do it. Um, which gave me this random thought
as I was watching the trailer of like, well, Jami's
Gunn is coming in, which means She'sam's probably going away.
They haven't. I don't think they've announced it yet, but
you know, we're all expecting that. But that's got to
be a good thing, because the kids who play Billy

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and and everybody else aren't gonna be kids much longer.
And then what do you do? Do you recast them?
Because part of the whole stick of Shazam is that
half of it as a kid. Yeah, yeah, Like, the
the character of Billy Battson can turn into this incredibly
like Superman level powerful hero by harnessing the power of

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the gods. And yeah, if you, if you, if you're
not a kid anymore, then that takes away a major
part of what was identifying factor for the comic book,
but yeah, well, um, we'll have to see, Like I
don't I honestly, uh, I'm not sure if I saw

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anything yet about their not being another Shazam, but I
want to say that I did see something like that.
If I didn't, that it's just because I anticipate that's
what's happening. I mean people have been speculating. I I honestly, Uh,
the past couple of weeks haven't kept up with all
of the d C news that's coming out other than
other than the the thing that Doom Patrol got canceled

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and that James Gunn is like, hey, guys, I get
it that decision was made before me. Yeah. Well yeah,
because when you watch Doom Patrol, it feels like a
very James gunn Ish kind of series, Like it's got
a lot of the same sort of humor and edge
to it that James Gunn projects typically have. You watch

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Doom Patrol and you watch you know, uh, Peacemaker, and
you're like, yeah, these two things feel like they could
exist in the same universe. Yeah, which I'm interested to
see what happens after season two of Peacemaker. Yeah, yeah, no,
no doubt, no joke. That's a no doke. No no,
I look, it's because you're you're thinking of our next

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the next thing we want to talk about, which is
we have a ghost trailer. And doke is between joke
and ghosts. That's true, and you never want to joke
between a ghost. It's just it's rude. Yeah, yeah, to
plasm everywhere. We Have a Ghost is a film that's
a a comedy drama film and it involves a family

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moving into a house and finding out that that house
is haunted by the ghost of David Harbor, and and
then finding out that the ghost is not necessarily malevolent.
Ghost doesn't really know why it's a ghost, doesn't have
much memory, can't speak, so unfortunately we won't. I wonder
if David Harbor was paid scale for this, because he

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doesn't have any lines. Um. I am certain that he was,
because if you look, if you don't have to have
lines to be paid scale, I'm just gonna say that
you can still be a a meaner supporting character of
co star and just not have lines. It depends on
how your role factors into this story. Yeah. So he's

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um obviously a central part of this, and the feeling
I got from this trailer was like, take take a
a ghost story and combine it with Harry and the
Henderson's and you kind of have we have a ghost. Yeah,
it looks fun and dorky, but it looks fun and
I'm going to take that back. He's definitely getting paid

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above scale. You know, he is well. And the trailer
shows that, like the world finds out the ghosts exist
because the family is posting videos of the ghost and everything,
and that brings in government folks who are there to
try and capture the ghost. And meanwhile they're the kids
are willing to help the ghost. And it's which is

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why I think it's very Harry and the Henderson's or
et like it feels like it it's falling into those
kinds of stories where it's it's kids trying to help
someone or something that is, uh, that is outside the
realm of normal for humans, and then the government is
is the bad guy that's coming into try and capture

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the unique thing. Also, this is where we get to
see Captain America versus the Red Guardian for the first time,
actually versus Anthony Mackie. Uploads of appears that Anthy Maggie
uploads a video of the Ghost, which causes lots of problems,
so you could say this, okay, maybe maybe it's team up.

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But also also in this movie supporting cast Jennifer Coolidge
and Tick Nataro, So yeah, a whole bunch of different
comedic stylings altogether. I once passed by tig Nataro. Are
you sure you sure it wasn't just our friend Lie Up,
because she does remind me of her a little bit. No,
it was Tig Nataro. She she was in our office

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at Pont City Market, which we no longer are in
Pont City Market, but she was there to do an
interview I think, with the stuff you should know guys.
And I passed by her as I was walking out
to go get lunch. Didn't I didn't want to interrupt her,
didn't wanna, you know, throw her off or anything, didn't

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want to bother her. So I just very quietly passed by.
I didn't say anything, but yeah, that was my brush
with Tig Nataro. I am, I'm I'm really sad that
there's not another season of Under a Rock with Tig Nataro.
I love just she has such an amazing, um dry

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sense of humor. Yeah, and the fact that she's never
seen anything just makes it so funny. When she's interviewing
people she has no idea who they are. But but
it's not in like that insulting Larry King in a way. Anyway,
we have a Ghost. I thought it looked I thought
the trailer looked cute, and I will watch it when
it comes out on Netflix. I will watch you too. First.

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I'm going to watch you people, and then I'm going
to watch We Have a Ghost. M One of those
is out already. And our last story is a feel
good story because an audience who went to see a
special screening of the Mummy. We're not talking about them
Cruise one, We're talking about the one with Brendan Fraser,
were treated to a surprise guest, that being Brendan Fraser himself,

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who came to the theater and addressed the audience, which
was really cool and was really sweet about how that
film really gave him lots of opportunities and the fact
that it has a special connection with the UK, yeah,
which is where they filmed it. He showed up in costume.
It was adorable. You know, this is this is a

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guy who I think when he showed up the nominations
for Oscars had already come out. Um, and so you
get nominated for an Oscar and then you just go
show up at a little showing of a movie you
did in the nineties. That's just the coolest thing to me. Yeah,
I thought it was really a nice treat. And the
fact that like he still embraces uh, this movie, which

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you know, I think it's it's easy to say it's
a fan favorite film like people love and for good reason.
Is an entertaining adventure movie. We don't we don't get
a lot of those, Like we get a lot of
like mediocre adventure movies, but we don't get a lot
of really entertaining ones. And The Mummy definitely was able

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to kind of straddle the line between comedy, adventure, horror,
Like I had a lot of these different genres that
were all kind of part of the movie. In fact,
Brendan Fraser talks about that when he's in front of
the crowd. He says, yeah, how do you even market
a movie like that when you can't even classify it?
But but you know, the fact that he's still very

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happy and humble about all that is really cool, you know,
as opposed to Like, occasionally you get actors who don't
want to acknowledge stuff they did earlier on in their
careers that maybe helped propel them to greater stardom, but
perhaps they're not super jazz about, like it's not like
it's you know, awards worthy or whatever. I mean, it

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could be. Um, I mean, but we talked about last
week how he would love to be in in some
more Mummy movies. So maybe this is just a way
of him drumming up interest and trying to get that
social push behind it, which is so very smart. Yeah,
it could be. Uh, you know, I honestly don't know.
He has a very he has a very practical way
of looking at the the business of show right, Like

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if you listen to interviews with him, he has a
very pragmatic kind of point of view of how all
that works. So you could very well be on the
money with that that assertion. Yeah. Uh, but you know,
that's all the that's all the things we got to
talk about. Yeah, this was a really long episode because

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we had the little little glitch in the middle. Well
you better take that out. Well I'm gonna take it out,
Like I just I don't know how bad it is yet, Like,
I won't know until I download the clips and then
I'll be like, well, I'm gonna be spending forty five
minutes just trying to get these these two halves of
the show to line up. Well, Uh, I appreciate you

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doing that, Jonathan, And if you all out there appreciate
Jonathan doing that as well, you should write him and
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rainy street. It will be nighttime. There'll be a little
reflection of neon in a puddle, and if you look

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that had said Harry Bows Roadhouse in reverse upside down
to Neon says, speak quietly and I shall hear. And
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