Baby Yoda Meets Baba Yaga

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
M Hey, everybody. Welcome to the Large nurderun Collider podcast,
the podcast that's all about geeky things happening in the
world around us and how very excited we are about them.

(00:20):
I'm Ariel casting, and with me as always is my
good friend an amazing co host, Jonathan Strickland. Maybe I
should have reversed that amazing friend and amazing co host
Jonathan Strickland. Wow, I'd just like the pig. I'm everything
to everybody. Also, it's the podcast so nice. We decided
to record it twice yea because my computer decided to

(00:45):
restart to do one of these days, Ariel, I swear
one of these days it will be a tech problem
free recording, but it will not be this day. But
you know what they say in theater, Uh, bad dress rehearsal,
great show, So maybe it's just technical problems. Great episode

(01:06):
we just did. Yeah, I must say we just didn't
know that what we were doing before was a dress rehearsal. Uh. Well.
One thing we want to start off with is that
we've been receiving some great messages from you guys. You
you wonderful listeners. When I say guys, I'm being completely
uh inclusive here. Everybody out there has been sending us messages.
It's been fantastic. We hope that those of you who

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are in the United States and who celebrate Thanksgiving had
a wonderful Thanksgiving, and we hope the rest of you
had a great Thursday. Yes last week. We we are
thankful for you regardless. Uh, and we love your episode suggestions. Uh,
today is not going to be one of them, but
we do have them on our shortlist for future episodes. Yeah,
it turns out that this week we have, as has

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happened in the past, way too many stories to cover.
We didn't think that was going to be the case,
and then yesterday happened, and uh, the whole bunch of
stuff came out all at once. So we've got a
fairly packed episode, which means that we also have a
returning segment of thirty seconds or less. Do Do Do? Do?
Do Do? It's our official starting music. We've got music

(02:16):
that goes behind each segment. But that's that's the music
that we used to introduce it. That's it. I'm just
gonna cut that and use that over and over all. Right, No,
don't do that to people. Well, our first thirty seconds
or less. Story will be arial explaining to us something
so arial. Are you ready? I'm ready and go all right,

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So I'm going to talk slow because there's not much
to say about this one. We got news, uh this
week on Mandalorian season three, we now have a release date.
That release date is March one, and the whole internet rejoiced, Ye,

(02:58):
well done. When we did that the first time, Ariel
was finished in ten seconds. This time it took you
twice as long. Yay. So, so are you excited about
the Mandalorian coming back? Um? I think much like you,
which people didn't get to listen to. UM, I wish
that they hadn't brought the Mandalorian into the Book of
Boba Fette, but I understand why they did, because they

(03:20):
sure needed to do something that show was. Yeah. Yeah,
it's kind of like I think if you're looking at
the discourse on Star Wars series and or is being
held up as like the best of the best, and
I think Book of Boba Fett is being held as
one of the like the worst of the worst. Uh.
And yeah, we got that one Mandalorian centric episode of

(03:44):
Book of Bubba Fett. And then of course he showed
up for the rest of it, and I kind of
wish they had not reunited Mando and Grogu at that point. Yeah,
I'm gonna say something. It's controversial. I realized we're in
thirty seconds or less and now we've gone twice as long,
which we said we weren't going to do, but we're doing. Um,
I think Mandalorians better than Andora. Interesting, I have not

(04:05):
I have not watched and Or yet, so I can't comment,
but I just know that I've I've heard a lot
of positive things about that series. Okay, Now I will
say the and Or being the prequel to Rogue one,
I don't like Rogue one as much as a lot
of other people do, but that that's a discussion for
another time. Instead, I'm going to just go ahead and

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jump into our next little thirty second sport last segment
and go Okay. So we didn't report on this, but
back in September, in fact, I didn't even know this,
but Marvel said goodbye to the director of the upcoming
Blade film. Um. He stepped down because of artistic differences.

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Now French director Yawn DeMange is taking over the job,
and there's a new screenwriter Michael Starbury. So they are
starting from scratch, but they're trying to hold on to
the release date and done. Uh they're filming in two
thousand twenty three in Atlanta. I'm hoping to get an
audition across your fingers for me. Yeah, yeah, I am.

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The last little thing I'll say about this is that, Wow,
what a huge deal, right to like totally lose your
director and writer and start over and still try and
keep to your release date. Uh. Really makes you wonder
if that post credit sequence and eternals is still gonna
make sense. Probably that's a joke. Okay, you ready for

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your next one? Ail yep and go all right. We
are getting a spinoff of john Wick based off of
Angelica Houston's character in john Wick three. Uh. The spinoff
is going to be called Ballerina, and Ada Armis is
also in it. Um and yeah, it's already I think
in production or pre production or something like that. So

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the ball is already rolling. Just what you like? That's fine.
I like Angelica Houston, um, and I like to watch
women kick. But so sure is fun. Yeah. That that
reindorsement is a sound of Aerial having probably enough pure

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action films because that's at least maybe I'm projecting. That's
how I feel. I super loved john Wick one, minus
the animal stuff, because animal engagement, as we all know,
makes me anxious, minus the thing that sets the whole
story in motion. But I love good stunts. I love
good fight choreography, which of course john Wick had. Um.
The second one wasn't a strong, The third one wasn't

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a strong. Um, haven't watched the third one is the
last one. Okay, we're getting a fourth one. I haven't
watched all of the third one. So UM. That tells
you how much the subsequent movies meant to me. Yeah,
I I have things to say about john Wick, but
we'll save it because the thirty seconds or less. I
don't want to from already extending every single one of

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these beyond that. So all right, next up and go.
So many of you may have already heard this, but
Albert Pune, a filmmaker who was known mostly for making
really kind of schlocky, low budget directed video cult films,
sadly passed away recently. His health had been failing. He

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directed films like The Sword and the Sorcerer, which was
one of my favorites. I love that foot movie. He
also directed the Captain American movie, which is hysterical because
Houth America keeps stealing cars through the whole thing. Anyway,
rest in peace. Yeah, our our thoughts go out to
his family. Um, ready for the next one and go? Alright,

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Top Gun is flying back into theaters, which is what
I wrote, and maybe that's what the article says to Anyhow,
they're rereleasing for two weeks in December from the second
tot It'll play at one hundred and fifty locations. Um Uh,
the movie did really well the first time it was
in theaters. I didn't watch it. Um. I like the
original Top Gun. Fine, um, I didn't watch this new one.

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I don't know if it will have enough traction to
get that much more money from being rereleased, Like a
rerelease always seems like a pretty tricky thing to me.
You went so over two seconds, areal? I just I can't.
I can't even with you. Okay, Well, go on to

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the next I also have not seen the latest Top Gun,
but I again, I've only heard good things. Everyone who
saw it seems to have loved it all right, final
one and go So you might remember that Margot Robbie
talked about how the female focused parts of the Caribbean
film was dead in the water, so to speak. I

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did a whole mash up making playing on that idea. Well,
Jerry Bruckheimer says, maybe not. They are developing a different
parts of the Caribbean film right now, but you said
that there's no reason to believe that the other one
won't reservice at some point the end. Yes. Um, I

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don't know if Margot Robbie would be involved at that point,
but it is at least possible that we will get
that movie in the future. I mean, if it's her script,
um and they want to use it. Yeah, but I
get it if they if they had two movies and
they're like, well, we think this one's going to do better,
or we're further in the process of this one, like
they're going to go with the known quantity more than likely. Um. So,

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Jonathan and I both did a lot of really geeky things,
or at least geek geeky media intake over the holidays,
and we just wanted to um chat about it a
little bit because most of it did not overlap. Yeah,
it's interesting because we we kind of listed out stuff
that we had watched now. In one case, I saw

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something that Ariel watched ages ago, which was Werewolf by Night,
the m c U horror adjacent video on on Disney Plus,
and I loved it. I was. I was so surprised
by it because I think I was expecting it to

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have a more like dark tone to it, and it
really doesn't. I mean there's some there, don't get me wrong.
There's violence in Werewolf by Night, some pretty extreme violence
in some cases, but the tone is still it's almost
a little campy. And and the the appearance of Man

(10:30):
Thing a k A. Ted was delightful. Yeah. I um,
I think I said this before. It feels exactly like
an old nineteen thirties pulp movie to me, where it's
got some of the comedy. Um, it does have a
lot of violence, it doesn't have a lot of gore
though they were much like its predecessors in old horror movies.

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They kind of did camera tricks to avoid most of
the gore, which I appreciated. I did feel some of
the characters were like Gotham, not all playing in the
on the same level field as far as like where
their characters campiness came from but unlike Gotham, I really

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enjoyed it. I get what you're saying. Yeah, when when
you feel like you're looking at characters who are inhabiting
different versions of the m c U but all in
the same video, and you're like, um, can we get
some tonal consistency here? I get it, because it does
feel weird, like pretty much everyone outside of the the

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two arguably three protagonists have varying degrees. And I totally
agree with you that something else I saw but you
have not yet seen is The Guardians of the Galaxy
Holiday Special. Yeah. Um, I highly recommend if you have

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Disney Plus and you have not watch The Guardians of
the Galaxy Holiday Special. High recommendation for me. I am.
It is on my list. I was gonna do it
this week and then my husband said, Hey, we're decorating
for Christmas this weekend. How about we save it for that,
Because usually when we're decorating for Christmas, we're like, what
are we going to put on? And it always ends

(12:20):
up being National Lampoons Christmas Vacation, which fine, once it
was Gremlin's and once it was Home Alone, but usually
it ends up being National Lampoon's Christmas vacation because that's
what gets my partner in the holiday spirit. Uh yeah,
I definitely think that this is one you need to watch, watch, like,

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pay attention to. I think we will. I think what's
going to happen is we're going to decorate and then
we're going to put it on to continue the holiday spirit.
Got it? I will say, without giving anything away, I
will say it was nice to have a story where
Mantis really gets to shine. M hm. You know, I

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love Mantis's character, So you're gonna you're gonna love her.
You're gonna love her so much more after this special.
Trust me, I don't. I don't think that's possible. Oh,
it'll happen. I'll talk to you next week and you'll say, Jonathan,
you were right. I do love her even more. Um.
All right. And the last thing I have to bring
to kind of our catch up is shortly after our

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last episode, because obviously we took a week off for Thanksgiving,
I got to go see the menu. And in case
any of you were kind of debating on seeing the
menu and you're wondering, well, am I gonna like it? Am?
I not? I loved the menu. It has kind of
a thriller aspect to it. And also if you have

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ever gone to any kind of trendy, fancy restaurant where
they take a lot of time him to describe the
dishes to you in detail, you will find the satire
in this movie to be on point. It is dark,
it is that there is some violence in it, not
that much gore. There's a little bit, not a whole lot. Um,

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there's some pretty horrific things that happened, but most of
it is left up to the audience's imagination. And um, yeah,
that's all you need to know. Because the less you
know about this movie, the better you are going the
more you're going to enjoy it interesting. Um, I might
give it a shot. Um, I'll probably wait till it
comes to my Netflix, much like gear Menators, Pinocchio and

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although that might already be out. And um also Glass Onion,
because I wanted to see that in theaters, but I
did not get a chance to. All of my friends
who saw in theater said said, you really need to
see it with a big group of people, and I
just I had I had a very large gathering of
family for Thanksgive and um did not get to nego

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see it but at least at least a few of
those people who were at your your house were of
an age that would not have been receptive to a
murder mystery movie. So you couldn't just put everybody in
a bus and go to the theater. Exactly exactly, however,
my house guests, um, who who were you know, tween

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tween ajorie. Uh. Did watch a couple episodes of Wednesday
with me. Um, the Adams family spin off, so much
like a lot of media that comes out, it was
it was you know, very high school based, um, like
high school protagonists based, um, which is fine, It's totally fine.

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UM for that. I thought it was a lot of fun.
I really think the actress who plays Wednesday Wednesday is phenomenal. Um.
There there's an iconic dance scene going around the internet.
I haven't gotten to that episode yet. I've only watched
the first two. Uh. And I just love it because she,
the actress who placed Wednesday, choreographed it, and she really

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took pains to research and bring in like dances that
the original Wednesday Adams did in the television show and
stuff like that, or Gomez Adams did and and so
it's kind of a love letter to the history of
the Adams family and I really like it, um and
and like the teen drama is fine, it's actually not
too bad. I will say that, uh, I felt and

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I feel bad even saying this because I love her
as an actress, but I felt Catherine Dada Jones was
just missing something. As more Tisha, I've I've seen some
like conversation happened on TikTok where they think that maybe
it's that Gomez was failing a little bit, and since
Mortisia plays off of Gomez, that that's why she. I
felt like she was a little too low key. And
it's not that Mortisia isn't low key, but like she

(16:52):
always has like a little I don't know, zip she's
got an intensity to her, and the intensity is not there,
then that's a problem them. Um. But again, I've only
seen the first two episodes, so it's possible that my
opinion of that will change the reviews I've seen. So
I have not seen any Wednesday yet except for the
dance sequence. I've seen that because because that one so

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viral and I'm not on TikTok, but it showed up
on YouTube, so I watched it there and I love
the well. First of all, they they put the Cramps
song Googo Muck into the show, so automatically, I was
like sold because the Cramps are you kidding me? But
then the dance sequence is fantastic. It's got like it's

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got like some broken doll energy going on in there,
and then like there are those little dance sequences where
you're like, oh, this is this is an homage to
like Ralph Julia and uh Angelica Houston in the nineties
Adams Family movie. So yeah, it's um, it's a uh,
it looks really interesting. But like the like you said,

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some reviews I saw suggested that the family dynamic among
the Adams is doesn't quite feel right, that Ortega as
Wednesday is killing it, but that the Adams family as
a unit doesn't quite live up to expectations. But that's
based upon what other people have said. Like I said,

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I have not yet watched it. Um, I mean it
wasn't offensive. They didn't like I said, it didn't quite
hit with me on the family dynamic, but it wasn't offensive.
The Cramps song is very similar to the song that
the Very Little Like Young Wednesday Adams dances too. When
she's trying to teach Lurch to dance, not when she's
trying to teach him ballet, but when she's trying to
teach him like a shuffle or something like that. Yeah,

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I forget what the name of the dance was, by
I know what episode you're talking about. Yeah, yeah, and
that's she puts that dance in her dance number two.
So um, it's it's great that they used a similar
sounding piece of music. Uh the I watched two other
things this week, um that we're geeky, and one was
the first episode of Willow, which is out on Disney Plus,
which I absolutely adored. Again young adult drama, because of

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course that's that's their target audience, right, But it was
really good. Um I thought. I felt that the characters,
especially the supporting characters, had a lot of depth to them,
and we're not one note. They were like well rounded
and interesting and like I found myself thinking about their
motivations and I loved it. Um it's beautiful. The costuming

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is amazing. The only complaint that, uh my, tony are
I have is that the song they played over the
end credits felt incongruous with the rest of the episode.
It felt out of place, but it was over the
end credits, so who really cares. Yeah. I also thought
it was weird that they got the Cramps Goo Goo

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Muck to play over the end credits of Willow. I
guess they're just trying to get as much attraction on
their old music as possible, like like, uh like uh,
Master Puppets did Away said Aerosmith, that is not you're
talking about like Metallica. Um, so, y'all, if you're really curious,

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by the way, it was slight, slight, tangent here Google muck.
Great song. The Cramps did a great job. It is
a cover. You can go look up the original Ronnie
did it. Uh, And yeah, it's also a great song,
but but not the one that played over the credits
of Willow. I imagine. I still haven't seen Willow. I'm

(20:35):
looking forward to seeing it. But um yeah, so what
was it like a modern song playing over the credits? Yeah,
it was a modern song. Some of the lyrics kind
of fit what happened in the first episode, So I
get it, but like I don't, I don't want to
spoil anything. The show ended on one tone and then
you had this very different tone piece of like modern
music afterwards, and sometimes it works, but I don't know. Yeah,

(20:59):
that's yeah. But that being said, it's end credit music.
So does it really matter for purposes of the quality
of the show. I guess not. It's just I think
part of the problem is that I'm thinking of the
film Willow, and that was all like either soaring movie
score type music or diagetic like folk music, like it

(21:24):
was what the the the little people's were playing, the
ones that are diminutively referred to as PEX by all
the bad people in the in the film. But yeah,
they had their little folk music that would play, and
that's what was playing over the end credits at the
beginning anyway of Willow, and then it goes into the

(21:44):
full theme. So for me, like again, I haven't seen
the series yet, but that would probably make me do
a double take as well. Yeah, but thankfully it wasn't.
Throughout the the episode. I really enjoyed the episode. Oh
but speaking of I we're also you know, watching Three
Rings of Power, which is not news to anybody listening

(22:05):
because I've talked about it before. But the freaking Bear McCreary,
like Hartfoot song I love, I Love so much and
I know every Renfest performers going to do it, and
I'm fine with that because I love the song so much. Uh.
For anybody who's watching, you know, I'm talking about that
guy works. Let me tell you, Bear McCreary, he gets
work and he does it well. I really like his

(22:26):
his musical stylings. UM. And then the last thing I watched,
you know it's gonna be for a real niche uh
section of our listeners is Dimensioned twenties. New campaign came
out Never After, which is like their horror fairy tale UM.
And there was some scary bits and there was some
like gory bits, but overall it was really funny and
fun and I look forward to watching the season. So

(22:47):
that's a that's a real play role playing series, right, Okay, yeah, yeah,
I don't I don't know if they're doing Role twenty
or ravens Loft or whatnot, but UM or fifth Edition
or rather or but some of those actors Brian Murphy
and Emily Oxford and then another person who's been on

(23:11):
actually do a podcast. It's not another D and D podcast.
They're actually in Atlanta this weekend, Atlanta and Savannah performing
and they're completely sold out the tangent aside. Yeah, well
bummer that they're sold out. I tried selling out, but
no one will pay me. Okay, let's move on to
the news. So obviously we were off last week. As

(23:34):
I think I've probably said multiple times, I don't know,
because honestly, this recording session has legitimately spanned half a
day at this point. But um, we didn't get a
chance to cover huge, huge news in the entertainment world
where Bob Chpeck, the former now former CEO of the

(23:55):
Walt Disney Company, stepped down or was told step down
or was fired, depending upon which version you you like.
Jenny Clear, Yeah, and Bob Iger, the CEO who was
in charge of Disney before Chapec, who actually chose Chpec
as his successor, has come back to once again take

(24:17):
charge of Disney. This had an enormously positive impact among
a lot of Disney employees or cast members if you
prefer if you're talking about the parks, who felt like
this was a good move. There's been a lot of
back and forth in the press about what this actually means,

(24:37):
whether or not it's good, whether or not the problems
that Disney has been going through were in fact begun
under Igor and then Chapec just failed to shepherd it
properly or whether they were Chapeck's fault. So there's a
lot of discussion and disagreement going on about this, but
generally speaking, Uh, the reaction I seen has been a

(25:00):
fairly positive one to Bob Iger's return. Yeah, which is
interesting because I thought people were kind of happy when
he left. Um, but I guess when you do a
comparative thing, um, when you don't know. Yeah, he's said that,
you know, some of the things that Check put into
place are going to continue, like the hiring freeze, at
least for now, because we still are in the economy

(25:23):
we're in you know. Um, But he's trying to fix
what he can, is what he says. But one of
the rumors that came out during that time is that
Apple was going to buy Disney, And I was like,
please know, yeah, this has been but this has been
a rumor that's been around for like on and off
for a really long time, and I think I think
it stems from some faulty reasoning because Apple is rich

(25:50):
in that that company has all of the money's you know,
a trillion dollar company, and Steve Jobs obviously had a
relationship with Disney because Steve Jobs was the guy who
Pixar was founded under. So there's there's We talked about
that on Business on the Brink. We did we did

(26:10):
a whole episode about Pixar, and we talked about how
Steve Jobs was kind of instrumental in the in the
producers side of Pixar and then ultimately shepherded it to
the point where it could be merged into the mouse House.
But yeah, I I don't I don't know that I've
ever seen any indications that Tim Cook, who CEO of

(26:35):
Apple or Apple in general, has been interested in the
concept of acquiring Walt Disney. I think that just ends
up being people playing kind of like armchair quarterback or
armchair ceo. I don't know where these ideas are coming from,
apart from maybe wishful thinking on some people's behalf and

(26:57):
anxious thinking on other people's depending upon how they would
view you such an acquisition. I also wonder, if you know,
like when you're in the office place and I'll be
at Disney office, work space is very different. Which one
of the things that Tiger said is that he wants
his employees to work together because he feels like creativity
works better. And I kind of agree, even though I'm

(27:17):
push back very much against making everybody go back to
the office, but I kind of agree if you're if
you're in a think tank of creativity, sometimes it's easier
to all be in the same room. Jonathan and I
have felt that before, but that mostly comes from the
technical limitations that we face, like whether it's lag so
that one of us finishes talking and then there's like

(27:38):
five seconds of silence and the other ones like, yeah,
that's right, or you know, a computer crashes, as was
the case earlier today, or a computer network goes down,
as was the case for the other one of us today.
You know, that's really why I think. But yeah, I think, fine, fine,
it's not because you want to see my beautiful face

(27:58):
in person. Also yes, also yes, I would much prefer
to be in the same room as you, Arieal, because
we we have we have what is called chemistry. Um.
But yeah, I I think. I think considering the fact
that the Walt Disney Company next year is celebrating a century,

(28:19):
like it's been incorporated for a century in I can't
imagine that one of the things, like you're saying is, hey,
how can we end the century long stance of Walt
Disney as a standalone company? I agree, I feel like
maybe again, knowing how how workplace gossip goes, maybe somebody

(28:43):
was like, oh, we're talking to Apple about this thing,
or I got this tiny piece of information, so it
must mean this huge, big thing that then gets blown
out of proportion and put down the telephone chain of gossip. Yeah, yeah,
I think again. I think again. It's a lot of
people kind of doing a what if and then running
on what if as if that were a real possibility.

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And who knows, Maybe I'm totally off base. Maybe we'll
wake up tomorrow and there'll be news of Apple acquiring
Walt Disney a company. But I don't know. Yeah, maybe,
But you know, I personally think that what if should
be um relegated to the realms of Marvel. Me too, Hey,
why don't we talk about Marvel? Yes? Yes? Uh so uh.

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This week we got a bunch of Disney trailers kind
of back to back to back, and one of them
was for Guardians of the Galaxy Volume three, Yeah, which
I don't know. I might have a different response to
it than the majority of people Honestly, it kind of
looks sad and not as fun to me. Uh, you
do not have a different response to the majority of people,

(29:51):
because if you do any searching on Twitter for reactions
to the Guardians of the Galaxy Volume three trailer, you'll
see a lot of people already clenching their their fists
and and and wringing their hands in worry over their
favorite characters, because the trailer does make it look like

(30:11):
this is the This is the the end of the
Guards of the Galaxy as a series, which we already knew,
at least in its current incarnation, it's going to be over,
and James Gunn is done after this one, right, He's
over at d C at this point, so this is it.
We also know that Batista said he is retiring from

(30:34):
the role of Drax after this one, so there's a
very good possibility that that's a character who's not going
to make it um. In the trailer, there's a sequence
where you see that Drackx has suffered a wound to
his chest. Perhaps we're getting an early look at the
beginning of the end of that character. We don't know.
We know that James Gunn has referenced the fact that

(30:54):
this is going to be a very sad film, or
at least it's going to explore the very sad backstory
for Rocket. We don't know if Rockets going to make it.
A lot of people are terrified that Rocket won't. They
sure make it seem like he won't in the trailer.
They got to give him a happy ending. They just

(31:15):
got a Jonathan Well, it's James Gunn and I could.
I hate to tell you this, but it's the Galaxy.
It's true. But I mean, like, okay, I'll give you
my predictions of who I think may not make it,
and I'll give it in order of likelihood. So the

(31:39):
one I think is most likely going to be dead
at the end of Guardians the Galaxy Volume three is Dras.
If I had the guest, number two would be Nebula
and number three would be Rocket. I hope that they
give many of them happy endings, even if they don't
come back, because Guardians of the Galaxy, even though it
has definitely had some heart wrenching moments, has overall been

(32:04):
very positive and and therefore a stand out to me
in the Marvel universe. UM. I do like the look
of aut Am Warlock. I will say, I'm I'm I'm
rocking that. I think it's a good catching choice I'm
looking for. And we finally got to see him, like
we've been waiting since the end of Guardians two to

(32:24):
see this character he's been incubating for years. Yes, yes,
and his egg is finally hatching. Uh. Well, before we
run on, I just want to say, I imagine we
are going to see ah at least some of the
characters make it through, because I would be shocked if

(32:44):
a few of them aren't called upon to make appearances
in the pair of Avengers films that are going to
end phase six, Right, so we know that they're going
to be two different Avengers movies to close out Phase
six of the whole Marvel storyline, and if it's going
to be similar to what we saw at the end
of Phase three, it means that we should expect some

(33:07):
of these characters to make appearances as you know, supporting cast,
maybe principles even in those films. So I don't think
it's going to be a team wipe. I don't think
it's going to go that bad, but I would be shot,
just will survive. I sure listen once you see that

(33:28):
guardens of the Galaxy Holiday Special. You are going to
be like, if they kill mantis offt that is a
freaking crime anyway. Yeah, so it's it is a heavy
looking trailer, right, but then Guards the Galaxy Volume two
had heavy stuff in it too. Yeah, but the trailer
was much more fun. I don't know. I will definitely

(33:48):
see it. I have to see it. This is one
that I'm not racing to the theaters though, for like,
especially with Rocket, an animal endangerment gives me anxiety. And
if your Rocket is so much more, he's a he's
a person, just like, just like all the others, So
therefore you should be fine. Okay, Well I'm I am

(34:12):
h more fine than I expected to be. With another
upcoming Disney movie, which is Indiana Jones Retirement Home The
Dial of Destiny. You don't like it when animals are
put in danger, but octogenarians are totally fine. Yeah, we

(34:33):
got the trailer or a teaser. Actually, we should also
point out that the Guards the Galaxy Volume three trailer
is a teaser trailer, so maybe they really emphasize the
dramatic stuff for that. But maybe future trailers will have
more comedy. There was some comedy in the Gardens of
Galaxy teaser too. It started and ended with some comedy yeah,
and then Indiana Jones, we get the teaser for that,

(34:55):
which actually surprised me because I hadn't been keeping up
with the production right, so I didn't know that they
were far enough along for a teaser to be shown already. Um,
I thought, well, I thought, for one thing, that it
looks better than Crystal Skull. I did not like Crystal Skull. Um.

(35:20):
I'm sure the Crystal Skull probably has its fans, but
I think I wouldn't say hey, because that's a very
strong word. But I really deeply disliked Crystal Skull. This
felt a little better to me, although there was one
line in that trailer that that made me say, oh,

(35:44):
come on out loud at my computer screen. And what
line is that? Jonathan? I already know, but don't Why
don't you tell us I don't believe in magic? Okay,
that's that's fine, Jonathan, But what was the line? That
was the line in the end of I'm saying I
don't believe in magic? And I'm like, are you kidding me?

(36:06):
You have been in multiple films where the stuff you
have witnessed could only be described as magical unless you
think that a character being able to reach into another
character's chest, pull out their beating heart as their chest
seals shut, and watch them still living as their beating

(36:26):
heart is in your hand, get lowered into lava, and
only then do they die. If that's science, you gotta
be kidding me. Also also like the it's not the
Holy Grill, it's they're not the Grills. Yeah, yeah, they
all have some supernatural level around it, but maybe in

(36:48):
his old age he's becoming a bit of a skeptic, Like,
you separate yourself from a miraculous event long enough and
you're going to start coming up with reasons of how
it practically happened. Um My, my reaction was that, And
I think I posted about this. I said that that
it reminded me too much of Scully and X Files

(37:09):
being there has to be a logical reason for this,
even when you're like four seasons into the X Files
and you're like Scully, how many times do you have
to be proven wrong before you say, huh, maybe this
one is supernatural? Yeah. Other lukewarm takes on the trailer Um,
there's one John Royce Davies is in it, and I
got to run a panel or two for him. He

(37:31):
is such a gracious person, or at least he was
for the panels that I ran for him at Dragon
Con that I'm excited to see him in something again.
Um and in Indiana Jones again. Uh. There, it looks
like there's gonna be a whole bunch of like d
aging um, which Disney is super into right now. So
a whole bunch of poking at your nostalgia feels and like, hey,

(37:54):
remember when you liked this or felt this about this,
feel it again, because we're showing you the same face
uh with c g I um and it. I mean
it has Phoebe waller Bridge in it, who is an
actress from Fleabag, which is certainly not a show for everybody. Um,
but she is a phenomenal comedic actress and I am
so looking forward to her in the Indiana Jones franchise.

(38:16):
And I hope that she is the person to pick
up his mantle because she would make a brilliant Indian
Indiana Jones. Um. Just her her delivery, her her level
of sarcasm with like with genuineness. Um. Yeah, I think
I think she's got like the perfect acting chops for it.

(38:36):
I could totally dig that. Also, I want to just
want to mention since you mentioned your connect to John
Reis Davies, I've acted with him, so I just wanted
to Oh yeah in Guards Cards. Yep, he was the
bad guy in Guards Guards spoiler Alert, and I was
I was a good guy. Now. I didn't share any
scenes with him, unfortunately, but yeah, we were in the
same production together and we got to got to hang

(38:57):
out with him a bit. It was cool. I've I
feel like that performance because I saw that performance at
Dragon Con is kind of outside of the realms of
spoiler even though it only more recently got approved for
a Guess distribution. Oh well, the Yeah, actually, at the
very beginning, we were told we were given permission to
do it as long as any money that was generated

(39:21):
from it would be donated to the Orangutan Foundation. That
was that was really cool. Yeah, that was that was
Pratchett's request, and so yeah, we did a radio play
of Terry Pratchett's Guards Guards, and I played Corporal Nobby
Knobs and my dad played Sergeant Colin. So yeah, it
was it was. It was fun and if you do

(39:44):
seek out the Atlanta Radio Theater Companies recording of Guards Guards.
I will let you know ahead of time. Performances are
uneven across the board. There there's some people who are
are fantastic because we've got John Race Davies, so we
have a professional like actor playing an important role. Some

(40:07):
of the performances are good, like amateur actors. I would
say I fall into the good category. Some of the
performances are enthusiastic. Yes, yes, that is usually the case.
Um yeah, but but you know, anyway, we've got other

(40:28):
news stories we can cover. We don't need to be
name dropping or I don't need to be name dropping
like this. I'm sorry. I didn't mean to name drop either.
I just I really meant to compliment the actor. Yeah, no,
you really were. I was being like, but I also
got to hang out with Johndrey Davies. That's cool. Trivia
Jonathan and and you know, maybe one day we'll make

(40:49):
a trivia game. If you remember this factoid, we'll send
you I don't know. Yeah. Also, here's another trivia a bit.
One of the two hosts here was once called cute
by Charles and Heston. Can you guess which of the
hosts of Large Negrounkallider was once called cute by Charlton Heston.

(41:11):
Was it Oswald the Rabbit. Oswald the Rabbit is not
one of the hosts of Large Nerdnka Lighter. He could
be he's a silent character, right, that's true. It could
be that he has been on every episode. We just
didn't know. Yeah, why are you talking about Oswald the
Lucky Rabbit, because with Disney hitting there, you know on anniversary,
that's that's it, correct one. We just said that, Yeah, No,

(41:35):
they've come up with a new Oswald the Rabbit short. Uh.
Disney actually lost in again. Jonathan and I actually talked
about this on Business on the Brink on one of
our Disney episodes. They actually created Oswald the Rabbit Disney
and um of Eye Works and then lost rights to
to Oswald the Rabbit, and then that's why Disney created

(41:57):
Mickey Mouse. And then in two thousand and six they
got the right back. So now we have this lovely
little It is an absolutely charming short. It's like a
minute six seconds long. UM. I will post the Polygon
article to our website at some point this weekend. UM.
By Monday, it will be available to you if you
don't want to google it. Um, and it's just delightful.

(42:18):
It's it's a cute throwback to the because it's a
black and white silent I mean, there's music, but it's
a there's no dialogue or anything in it, so it's
a little like silent movie era style animated short. And
it's absolutely adorable. And uh it has enough of the

(42:40):
nostalgic throwback to the nineteen twenties style of animation to
be charming, but also has some more modern um takes
as well, like some modern expressions and modern reactions to
stuff like it's it's cute. It's a great marriage of

(43:02):
the two. So yeah, I really, I really liked it.
I also liked the fact that it was a minute
in six seconds long because I was like, oh man,
we had to watch so much stuff for this episode. Yeah, no,
I agree, I agree. I enjoyed that a lot more
than I enjoyed the Super Mario Brothers trailer even Oh yeah,
so we got a new Super Mario Brothers trailer, an

(43:23):
actual trailer trailer, not a teaser. Um. We got to
hear a little bit more of Chris Pratt's Mario, including
a let's a go. We gotta lets a go From
Chris Pratt, I'm fine with it. Sorry. I've seen articles
about how people are freaking out about how other countries

(43:46):
are way better off with the voice actors who are
picked to do Mario into their language, and I'm like, oh, man,
that that's a that's a twist of the knife in it.
I mean, for for purposes of this is just me
upsetting everybody who listens to our show. This episode. I
thought he sounded fine, Like I thought he sounded like

(44:10):
a perfectly acceptable h M version of Mario that is
not super super stereotyped. But Luigi also doesn't sound super stereotyped,
so yeah, I think I think it was more that
people felt that it was a low energy performance in
comparison to some of the voice actors from other countries. Honestly,

(44:33):
uh h, I think the teaser was more effective for
me than the trailer I didn't have. I didn't feel
like the trailer put the film with its best foot forward.
The teaser I felt, had a little bit more amusing
charm to it. There was some but um, you know,

(44:55):
seeing my girl Anya Taylor Joy Princess Peach love that. Yeah,
she'd her voice been a lot better than I imagined
it would. Um. But honestly, I think it's just that
this trailer maybe isn't for us because my my niece
and my nephews watched it and they are crazy excited
for the movie. Like that ridiculously totally fair. I mean like,

(45:19):
it's only a character that debuted when I was a kid,
and you would only think that, you know, I would
have a connection with a character that debuted when. I
mean like I was alive when not just Super Mario
Brothers when the first Mario Brothers came out. Heck, I
was alive when Donkey Kolin came out and Mario was

(45:41):
just called jump Man. You wouldn't think that I'd have
a deep emotional connection to such a character and thus
feel maybe if they made another live action with John
Legazamo and it maybe, But I think, do you legitimately
like that movie in the same way that I like

(46:02):
uh uh Kiss of a Vampire Vampire's Kiss or whatever
it's called or the Room? Well, you and Shay are
mutual friend. Set should get together and watch it because
you two both seem to I don't know, maybe it's
the Redheads I know who all like Super I I

(46:23):
like it in that it's a bad movie that is
also so bad that it's funny. It's not something that
I seek out to watch. Yeah, I okay, well, fair enough.
Well anyway, the trailers out. You can watch it if
you haven't seen it already. Maybe maybe you still have
a spark of joy in you and you will really
respond well to the trailer. But it's dead inside me,

(46:44):
and I felt nothing. Did you feel anything for the
Transformers Rights of the Beasts trailer? Nausea? Oh? That is
that worse or better? But something? Uh? No, the Transformer
Rise of the Beasts. Okay, I have made it no secret.
Anyone who knows me knows I hate the live action

(47:07):
Transformers films. Uh that's probably another strong word. I've only
seen two of them, but I hated both of them,
so I haven't watched. I think I've watched the first
one and then The Dark Side of the Moon I
guess what, or Dark of the Moon. That's what it
was called, right, Dark of the Moon? Um? Yeah, is

(47:27):
that the one that had the nights in it? Like
that was kind of medieval? No? That was the one
after that? Um No, Dark of the Moon. I hated
them both. Uh. I actually watched Dark of the Moon
for a different podcast I used to do called Podcast
Without Pretense, And if you want to hear Jonathan curse
a lot, you can find that episode and you'll hear
me really let loose on that film. Um. Yeah, I

(47:49):
don't like them. I find them incomprehensible. The Transformation sequences
are just visual noise to me, like nothing seems to
make any sense, which really irritates me because I don't
really like the toys. And the toys like you saw
how they had to figure out, like how can we
make this form factor into a robot and have them

(48:12):
go back and forth? And that requires you to make
certain choices, right, But the films they're like, well, this
is all c g. I. We don't have to do that.
We we are not We're not confined by that. So
you just get these visually noisy sequences where nothing that's
in motion is really making sense and you go from
one form to another. And I hated it. Um, I

(48:39):
really hated this trailer. I just I just did nothing
about it appealed to me. I also should point out
that I'm I like the original run of Transformers and
I was out by the time the Beast Stuff started.
So I'm also the wrong demographic for this movie because

(48:59):
the beasts stuff means nothing to me. I don't know
those characters. I was familiar with the earlier ones. So
maybe for fans of the Transformers during the original Beast Stuff,
the Beast Wars or whatever it was, maybe they will
really love this. Uh. For one thing, I guess, I
guess my biggest problem is I just don't connect with

(49:20):
any of the characters ever. Yeah, yeah, I have to agree.
I have. I've watched less Transformers than you, and I
wouldn't say that I hate them. I would just say
that they I didn't find them entertaining. Um, and I
wanted to because I also love Transformers. I love the
old toys over the old cartoon even some of the
older movies. Um. There's even a Transformer who was previously

(49:43):
known as Ariel fun fact uh way back when. Um
she is not in this new Transformers movie, although our
c is who has a really cool design and I
did like that. Um. But yeah, it's just I haven't
I haven't found the storylines intriguing enough to care. And

(50:05):
it's sad because like this one has Anthony Ramos in it,
and I think he's a phenomenal actor, and I want
to care that he's in this movie, and I don't yea.
And again, maybe it's a bad teaser. Maybe the next
trailer will make us turn around and say, oh oh,
I was totally off base because I got the wrong impression.
I was making too many assumptions based on the teaser.

(50:28):
And I'm totally open to that. I want that to
happen because I want to have a Transformers film that
I'm like excited to see. Uh Again, this gets back
to to the fact that in general, big action things
fall flat for me unless I care about the people
in the story. And you know, like the original Transformers

(50:49):
movies with Sam Witwicky as your protagonist as the worst
human being ever makes it very difficult for me to
act with the film. Yeah, yeah, and I agree with you.
I also get visual fatigue because there are too many
pieces moving pieces that don't all fit together. In the Transformers.

(51:11):
I've been told Bumblebee as good. I haven't seen that one,
but um, I feel like I need to give that
one a shot. I think out of all the ones
that have been made, that's the one that I'm most
likely to connect with so, but I haven't seen it either. Um, yeah,
you know. And I also I think I think Michael

(51:31):
Bay not that not the Rise of the Beasts of
Michael Bay film. It's not, but Michael Bay did the
original Transformers movies. I think Michael Bay has a point
of view and philosophy that is just not in alignment
with anything that I hold important, and that's part of

(51:52):
the problem. Mhm. Yeah, Well there's the Rise of Another
Beast that I bet you are more interested in. Oh no, okay, great.
So this trailer came out the other day. Everybody kind
of went crazy for it, even like my own friend group.
It's called Cocaine Bear. It's based on a a true

(52:14):
story about a bear who kind of who ate cocaine
and then um, but it is very much like fictionalized.
It's a dark comedy. It looks like like scary you know,
bear attack stuff, but also really bizarre humor. Like the
tone is all over the place. You know what it
makes me think of. It makes me think La Placid,

(52:36):
but instead of a giant alligator in a lake, it's
a cocaine infused bear. But yeah, like if if Betty
White had survived, I would to do more movies. I
would have expected her to show up in Cocaine Bear
as her character from Like Placid, because, um, that's the

(52:56):
kind of movie this looks like. Here it does so well.
What did you think of the trailer? You watched the trailer,
you saw that it has this weird tonal issue. It's
got like the mix of gory horror and uh, weird comedy.
What was your reaction? Um? I felt like the brief

(53:18):
scene where they showed the bear talking was completely out
of tone with the rest of it. Um. I felt
it it was inconsistent, Like there are some bits that
just look scary, there were some bits that looked funny
and scary. Um. I suspect this is one that I
will not seek out to watch, but I will have
a group of friends watching it for a bad movie night,
and I will have to suffer through it. Uh. That

(53:39):
being said, One of the kids, one of the main
kids in the movie is the little child who played
Sweet Tooth in the Sweet Tooth series, and I am
excited to see him do more things. So well, that's
that's good. I'm glad that you're able to find silver
linings and stuff areal because I watched this and I
just thought this, this feels like it's one step away

(53:59):
from an US asylum movie. To me, it's not quite
to the level of asylum that like a Sharknado will be.
It's almost there. It's it's it's like they're sitting. They're
sitting elbow to elbow at the bar right like asylum
and this movie, um and and I don't feel like
the people who made Cocaine Bear set out to make

(54:21):
Like you watch asylum movies, you feel like, I don't
think anyone here had a vision. They just had a
set of bullet points that they had to hit and
a a very low budget and that's it. In the
Sharknado movies, I feel like their goal was, let's make
a really bad schlocky movie on purpose, which is why
those movies don't work for me. Cocaine Bear, I don't

(54:43):
know if they were aiming to make like a bad
schlocky movie or they just wanted to make a schlocky
movie and it just looks like it's not good to me. Again,
this is all my opinion. Nothing's wrong with anybody who
thought it looks amazing and they really want to see.
I think that's great. It just didn't again, like it

(55:04):
didn't hit anything for me. It looks better than Santa Jaws.
A raptor pastor, raptor rapter pastor pastor. It's called pastor,
like it's a it's a crime that one didn't get
up any Academy nominations. I don't they're making a second one.
I don't know what you're I don't know what your

(55:26):
problem is here. But but going from white substances to
white noises, we that's a really horrible segue, and I'm
so sorry it's bad. We have another trailer for a
Netflix movie that's coming out. Honestly, I saw this. The
name of this trailer, I hadn't heard of it. Jonathan
found it White Noise, and I thought it was going
to be a super scary trailer. And I was like,

(55:47):
what are you doing to me. It's the Christmas season.
You can't scare me. John at it and I didn't.
It's not scary. Yeah, So this is This is actually
based off a novel um The non Role was by
Don Delilo I think came out in the eighties, and
the novel is it uses sort of absurdest humor two

(56:11):
look at some big ideas, like things like the concept
of your own mortality and uh like lots of big
big things, but through like an absurdest humor lens and
the the the event that the trailer really focuses on,

(56:32):
it's one element of the book. It's in one of
the segments. Um is the airborne toxic event. And if
you've ever heard of a band called that, they got
their name from this. But there's a there's a train
accident that releases this This toxic fumes into the air
and requires a group evacuation of the entire region. It

(56:54):
becomes kind of a post apocalyptic sort of thing. And meanwhile,
you have this family that's made up it's a blended
family made up of two people who have each been
married numerous times and have numerous children from their various
marriages that are with them. They also have more children,
by the way, who don't live with them. The book
explains that there's like six other kids that are not

(57:17):
part of this family unit. But yeah, the couple are
on their fourth marriage. Yes, each they're each there, each
each other's fourth, and the book, I think she's actually
his fifth, although one of his wives he married twice. Um, so,
so yeah, it's a it's it's based off of a

(57:37):
very weird book that that got a lot of notoriety
in the eighties, Like it's the one that got this
author kind of really recognized. The author had been writing
for a long time before that, but this was like
the breakout hit. And um, you know the trailer has
Adam Driver playing the main character. I think the novel
is told in first person, so he's like the the

(58:00):
protagonist of the film. And uh, I don't know, why
did you actually think of the trailer when you saw it.
I mean, it's got a very peculiar sense of humor
in tone. Yeah. Again, it's it's got kind of like
this Napoleon dynamite sort of banality to it, but also

(58:20):
uh like apocalypse vibes, but also like, uh I guess
Cheaper by the dozen, learning to work as a family.
It's a lot um but it looked interesting to me.
It definitely looked more interesting to me than Transformers. Uh I. Honestly,
there was one thing about the trailer that bothered me.

(58:42):
If they're all evacuating from this airborne toxin, why do
they keep having their car windows down? Yeah? I don't
think they're I don't think they're super super focused on
a realistic depiction of how you should evacuate an area.
But yeah, like I agree with you. Uh, the Napoleon

(59:03):
Dynamite comparison is one that did not occur to me,
and I think you are spot on. I think it's
that that almost disaffected, like you're taking one step back
and trying to survey everything that's happening and makes sense
of it while you're also going through it. And so
there's this almost disassociative feeling that you're having as you're

(59:25):
trying to navigate through the situation. That's the kind of
feeling I got so interesting. It also kind of and
this is another Adam Driver movie. It actually reminds me
a little bit in tone of the Dead Don't Die,
which was a comedy zombie film with Adam Driver and
Bill Murray, and that one had sort of a meta

(59:46):
textual element to it too. I would be shocked if
White Noise doesn't have something akin to that, um, maybe
even just sort of some textual thing, but it was.
It's given me some feels of that too, which just
makes me kind of think that Driver's got he has
a type. Yeah, yeah, I think this is one I'll

(01:00:09):
probably check out um on some afternoon. And I'm like,
I don't know what I want to watch. I don't
want to watch the Office for the twenty ninth time. Um. Yeah,
when you can, when you can put dress up your
pets in costumes from characters from Community and act out
entire scripts, it might be time to adopt a new show. Ah. Snap,

(01:00:31):
I need to start watching Community again. I stopped at
the Christmas episode and oh, no, you definitely need to
watch it. Yeah, because we've got that movie coming out before,
you know, maybe eight or nine anymore years. So well,
I guess. I guess then I just have no time
to watch Darby in the Dead. Uh yeah, so yeah,
this was another trailer we got. Um where we got

(01:00:54):
Darby and the Dead gave me kind of Buffy the
Vampire Slayer vibes. Um. Yeah, like if they try it
a little too hard, maybe, yeah. I don't know. Like
part of me thinks, is this just because we Ariel
are of a certain age and so maybe this is
just a style And Okay, I am of a certain

(01:01:16):
age and Ariel is just an old soul and so
so like there's just maybe there's just a different approach
to these kind of these kind of teenager stories that
is similar enough to what we are used to from
when we were watching these kind of things when we
were less uh wise, let's put it that way. Um,

(01:01:40):
And so maybe that's why it doesn't connect quite as much.
But the premise is that you have this character Darby.
She is able to see dead people. She she uses
that phrase, um, and she tries to help ghosts get
to the other side. She also tries to fit in
in high school. The head cheer leader dies and needs

(01:02:02):
to finish her business on Earth, which involves having a
big birthday party bash Throne, and so she is haunting
Darby until Derby becomes popular and is able to have
this party so that the head cheerleader can go off
to her final rest. That that seems to be the premise. Um,

(01:02:23):
that's that. And Yeah, the trailer's cute, I thought, I mean,
the chail is cute. Honestly, it gave me um clueless
vibes as well, which I did like clueless, um a
little bit of mean girls too. Yeah. I think part
of the problem for me is I didn't watch Buffy

(01:02:45):
until it had already completely finished. Like I didn't watch
Buffy till I was an adult, um, and so by
the time I watched it, I'm like I am an
old soul, like I started working in high school. So
there's there's a lot of like teen drama that I
just never ever connected with really, um and so I
would find it frustrating sometimes or I'd be like, you're

(01:03:06):
smarter than this, stop whining about that, um, which is
very very mean of me and not very sympathetic. Uh.
But most most teen movies I didn't like, Like I
liked Ten Things I Hate About You, and I liked Clueless,
But then there's a whole other slew of them that
just I had no interest at all in when I

(01:03:27):
was a kid or a teenager or a young adult. Um.
So yeah, I mean I was already an adult when
Buffy the Vampire Slayer came out, right, Like, I was
already well passed high school when that show started. Ah,
so I kind of hear you on on that as well.
But you know, it's this was one where I thought

(01:03:51):
it looked cute. I don't. I don't think it hit
all cylinders either, like Darby, I don't think it quite
uh uh struck a tone with me in the same
way that Buffy did when it first came out. But um,
but that again, the older I get, the more the
more distance there is between me and high school, and

(01:04:14):
also the more the high school experience changes from what
it was when I went to high school. Like, when
I went to high school, there was no publicly available internet.
There was no such thing as the World Wide Web.
You know that the world was people didn't have cell phones,
let alone smartphones, so it was a very different world.
And thus the further we get away from that era,

(01:04:38):
the more I'm going to find it difficult to connect
with a story. I think the actress who's playing Darby
is doing a great job, at least from what we
seen the teaser. Yeah, I will agree with that. I'll
probably give it a chance. I'm more excited about the
the High School Breakfast clubby eighties Vibe Frankenstein movie that's

(01:05:01):
coming out. Um, that is is Zelda Williams's debut directorial debut.
But but yeah, I might give this one a try. Um,
something I don't I don't know if I can give
a try to is if Guerma de Toro actually makes
a stop motion animated Mountains of Madness, which is a

(01:05:23):
HP Lovecraft story. It is, and I've got good news
for you. So, so, there was an interview that Guenermo
del Toro did where he kind of off handedly said
that one thing he would love to be able to
do is do a stop motion animated adaptation of the
Mountains of Madness. Then people ran with that. Now this

(01:05:44):
kind of goes back to something else we talked about
earlier in this episode that people ran with that, and
it quickly evolved into Guiermo del Toro is developing a
stop motion animated adaptation of the Mountains of Madness. Guermo
del Toro himself went on to Twitter and said, no,
I am not. This was just a random pull quote
from an interview. I would love to see it happen,

(01:06:07):
but there's no work being done on this. So he
was kind of putting out the fire early on, saying,
I know I have this reputation. You know, he's been
connected to wanting to make a film about the Mountains
of Madness for years, Like I remember hearing rumors about

(01:06:28):
him supposedly getting into that, like more than a decade ago,
maybe even two decades ago. At this point, they have
a c g I clip like test footage clip, um
from ten years ago. Yeah, but but but he is
not actually planning on doing that unless, like some studio

(01:06:49):
comes forward and says, you know what, Cabinet of Curiosity
was great, here's a truckload of money. So I think
that's part of the speculation. And you know that ten
years ago when he was looking at it, it HP
Lovecraft was a very hard sell to a lot of
movie studios for for bucket load of reasons. Um. But

(01:07:10):
for me, like I think Ayrmo to Toro could do
some really cool stuff with some HP Lovecraft esque stories,
Mountains of Madness just has a very unsatisfying end to me. Yeah, well,
I mean for me, a lot of Lovecraft does. But
he did, like there were a couple of stories and
Cabinet of Curiosities that were either directly adapted from Lovecraft

(01:07:32):
stories or were heavily influenced by them. So it's clear
he's always going to have kind of a hand in,
Like that's always going to be an influence. And we
know Guiermo del Toro he loves monsters just like Ariel,
So I would be shocked if we don't get some
sort of adaptation at some point. Just we shouldn't be

(01:07:53):
expecting a stop motion animated film at least anytime in
the near future. Yeah, we have three more stories. Let's
cover them super quick so that we have time to
get to your mashup, Jonathan. Uh. The first is that
you said you had a surprise for me, and I
guess I don't technically know. Yeah, well that's that. We

(01:08:14):
we said that off Mike, though. Now our listeners all
know that I've got a mash up. You you can
cut it out. I could know me. I'm lazy. I'm
not going to cut it out. Okay, well, okay, so
everybody who's listening for what let's do those last stories though. Yeah,
but everyone who's listening just forget she said that part. Yeah,

(01:08:36):
forget like the last two and a half three minutes. Um, okay,
so we're getting that nineties show. Um, the trailer just dropped.
We knew were we we knew, We've been getting it
for a while. The trailer dropped. It's still about Red
and Kitty, but this time it's their grandkids coming over. Um.
It actually looks a little bit sweeter to me than
that somebody show did. Yeah, it does. It does look

(01:08:57):
against some of the like ribbing between the friends appears
to be toned down. It doesn't look like it's quite
as mean spirited as some of the that seventy show is.
I mean, Red still has his his edge to him
where he wants to, you know, he'll threaten to kick
someone's ass if they don't, um, you know, do whatever
he says or get the heck out of his way
or whatever um I have to say. Like, like, I

(01:09:22):
watched it and I thought, this looks very kind of
bland to me. Like the trailer did not look particularly
it didn't look bad. It just didn't look super funny
to me either. And they weren't really leaning heavily into
the nineties stuff, right like the seven That seventy show
had so many jokes and references that were very much

(01:09:44):
dependent upon the seventies era. That nineties show the trailer
we saw, I mean, the series might be different, but
the trailer did not do that. Like there didn't. I
didn't see people talk about like like grunge or any
anything like that, or like man they had a shortage
on flam roll at the local store or anything like that. Yeah, yeah,
for all we know it could have been you know

(01:10:04):
that show or the ten show. Um it was it
was a little nondescript. I will agree there. Yeah, I
mean again, it might turn out to be okay, But like, uh,
if the trailer is really representative of what the series is,
I would be shocked if this gets renewed for the

(01:10:24):
next season. But you know, maybe we just got a
little bit that was available and what will actually premier
will be better. We'll have to see. Next up, We've
got also got a trailer for one of the Murderville
murder mysteries. If you don't know, this is a series where, uh,
they have scripted murder mysteries, but then they bring in

(01:10:47):
celebrities who are not given a copy of the script
and who have to kind of navigate as an assistant
to the detective as they try to solve the murder.
And this one, Santa is the victim. Yes, yes, And
the special guests are Jason Bateman and Maya Rudolph. I
really liked the Murder Raal murder mystery series. I am

(01:11:09):
absolutely delighted to get a holiday special. I cannot wait
to watch this. Yeah, I and you know, of course
Bateman and aren't will Arnatt, who's sort of the central
figure of the series. Are old colleagues, friends. They've held
hands in New York. It was one of my favorite bits.

(01:11:31):
Did you ever see those pictures? No? No, I just
watched Arrested Development, which they were both on. Yes. Yes,
So they were walking together in New York and they
spotted paparazzi who were rushing to get into place to
take pictures. So they held hands and pointed at apartments
as they strolled down the sidewalk. Is one of the
most adorable things you'll ever see. The they look genuinely

(01:11:55):
joyful as they walk hand in hand. So anyway, yeah,
I'm looking forward to this one too. And our last story.
I can't believe I hadn't heard about this, but we're
getting a Brittany Spears inspired musical called Once Upon a
One More Time on Broadway next June. Yes, it's going

(01:12:20):
to the Marquet Theater, which is currently housing Beetlejuice until January. Um.
I don't know if they've got a show in between. Um. So,
this was a show. It ran for a short time
and then the pandemic happened and it lost traction. It's
it's like a Fairytale Britney Spears Jukebox Musical. I tried

(01:12:40):
to find videos of it and all you could find
were like curtain call videos. Yeah, well, because they only
did a very short engagement when they were workshopping essentially
and in d C. And then they were supposed to
go to Chicago and do kind of a preview series,
which a lot of Broadway shows will do. They'll do
a run in a second dairy market like Chicago or

(01:13:01):
sometimes Atlanta. Atlanta has been home for a few of these,
and then it will go on to Broadway once the
show has been kind of polished and refined. But this
one kind of skipped the Chicago step because of multiple reasons,
including a pandemic, and now is going to open next summer.
The the promotional photos make it seem like the princess

(01:13:26):
characters in the series in the musical are and I'm
gonna be really generous here inspired heavily by Disney iconography,
because there's one actress who I think is supposed to
be snow white because her yeah, her outfit has got
like the snow white colors. It's I told Ariel, it's

(01:13:47):
a lot like these people are Disney bounding super hard, Like,
they're not identical to the costumes of the animated films
from Disney, but it's the same color ski in same
general form factors, but then modernized a bit. Yeah, Honestly,
at first I was gonna say, I'm kind of surprised
they're able to do that, But then I remember that

(01:14:09):
Britney Spears was a mousketeer, so but she supposedly has
had no official involvement in this. She just she is
reportedly excited about it, but didn't. She's not listed as
like a producer or a writer or a contributor of
any kind for this film. All the all the songs
were obviously licensed because they weren't that they would just

(01:14:30):
get sued out of existence by the the music studios.
But yeah, I'm not a big fan of jukebox musicals
in general. That's just not my my jam. I prefer
musicals where the songs are specifically written to either further
the plot or give us more insight into a character,
rather than have a character be conformed in such a

(01:14:52):
way so that a song fits whatever they're going through
Like that just doesn't work as well for me. So
I'm not big on jukebox musicals. I will say, though
I am perhaps morbidly curious about this one. I am
morbidly curious. I don't know if I'm curious enough to
go to Broadway to watch it or watch it the
next time I'm at Broadway, but I am morbidly curious.

(01:15:14):
I mean, I remember watching h Hit Me Baby One
More Time when it came to like the knockoff MTV
public Access music channel on my antenna back when I
was a kid. Um, so I do. I do have
some love for those old songs, although Britney Spears herself

(01:15:35):
did not stay on my radar too long. As far
as pop music that I listened to, well yeah yeah.
And also when you start thinking about the songs, you're like,
what context is that going to work for princesses? Like
hit Me Baby one More Time has a different connotation
to it, or Oops, I did it again. It's gonna
make me hit Me Baby one more Time. They're they're

(01:15:57):
playing Blackjack Jonathan. Okay, that's super child friendly. Sure that works, okay,
and that that's like our epic news episode. Man, this
episode is gonna be super long when I edited all
at the end, but now it's Okay, it's okay. I
mean mostly me because I'm such a chatterbox. But I

(01:16:19):
did do a mashup. I did not tell Ariel beforehand
that I was going to do a mash up, so
this is a surprise for her. It is a a
mash up that I did based upon um one of
the news stories we covered, as well as an upcoming

(01:16:40):
film we we well, we talked about Ballerina john Wick
is thrown into here, but there's also another there's also another,
uh major, major, major influence into this mashup that I'm
not going to to tell you because I want you
to discover it Ariel, because it's a movie I know

(01:17:01):
you've seen, and I don't want to tell you ahead
of time. So all right, we're gonna just start. I'm
not even gonna tell you the title. I'll tell you
the title at the end, because if I tell you
the title, you know you're gonna We're gonna guess it, Okay.
Den Jarin aka the Mandalorian, has a problem. He's got

(01:17:23):
this crazy black lightsaber called the Dark Saber of all things,
and because the Mandalorian people are really into our Thurian legend,
this means he is the rightful ruler of Mandalore. But
you see, there's this woman who is at least fifty,
but she looks closer to forty, and she's named Bokaton. Cries,
and really, we should talk sometime about the muddled timelines

(01:17:45):
and ages of characters across different Star Wars properties, but
this is not the time or place for it. Anyway,
Bokatan has aspirations of ruling Mandalori, and she's wanted it
for a really long time, and she wants to return
Mandalori to its place as a militaristic power in the
galaxy as opposed to the more pacifist version that was
in power prior to the rise of the Empire. So

(01:18:07):
bo Katan really wants that Dark Saber, and the only
way to hold it is to defeat the current wielder
of the Blade, that being den Jarin, the Mandalorian, and
that's his problem. He has a former ally now seeking
to defeat him in single combat, so things are kind
of rough. Anyway, we joined Jarin and his merchandise gold

(01:18:30):
mine known as grow Goo, which from now on we
are going to refer to as Baby Yoda because we
all know that's his real name, and they're on a
train that's rushing its way across the surface of Okay,
we'll just say tattooing, because while presumably there's an entire
galaxy of planets out there, for some reason we keep

(01:18:52):
coming back to this one. So the Mandalorian and Baby
Yoda are sitting on this train when a couple of
dudes sit across from them, and they introduced themselves as
Tangerine and Lemon. Lemon seems particularly interested in Thomas the
tank engine and immediately points at Mando and says, you're
a dazel. And then he points to Baby Yoda and says,

(01:19:14):
and you're a bird. Now. Before Mando can respond, the
one called Tangerine says, look, we've been I had to
keep an eye on you, isn't it. And you better
Adam and Eve that will take you out for a
ball of chalk and push in your fireman's hose if
you give us any Bondie rubble. And Mando says, okay,
none of what you said even makes sense. But before

(01:19:34):
Tangerine can elaborate, there's a ruckus further up the train,
in front of Mando and Baby Yoda but behind Tangerine
and Lemon. Because they're facing each other right, and for
a moment, the two Tangerine and Limit they're they're distracted,
so Mando does the old conk two heads together, trick
and out they both go. So he picks up baby
Yoda says, come on, that doesn't sound good. Mando walks

(01:19:57):
forward carefully and looks into the next car up the train,
and through the train door window he can see this
guy in snazzy clothes and he's fighting off like three
or four other people, Like there's a stormtrooper and an
i G Series assassin's droid and giant fluffy teddy bear
looking thing, and also a guy flashing a regular old

(01:20:20):
sword around. But the dude in the nice clothes takes
them all out by doing this weird combination of gun
fighting and martial arts. So the nicely dressed dude, once
he has dispatched his opponents, straightens out his suit and
then he turns and he sees Mando looking at him
through the window in this door, and the guy kind
of looks down and he sighs, and Mando slowly opens
the door and says, hey, I don't want any trouble,

(01:20:43):
and the guy is like, wait for real, WHOA, that's awesome, because, like,
I don't know if you know this, but it seems
like everyone I meet, and I mean literally everyone, including
random people on the street just passing me by, are
all professional assassins. Like all of them. I'm pretty sure

(01:21:07):
we're all assassins, and we're all hired to do jobs
on each other, and I'm stuck in some sort of
assassin based economic model. It's really ridiculous. I'm John Wick,
by the way, and that's how the Mandalorian met John Wick.
I understand, says Mando. In my line of work, everyone
is either a bounty hunter or a criminal. That's about

(01:21:29):
the extent of it. I don't even know who hires
me at this point, John nods, I get it. So
any trouble back that way, he says, and he points
back to the back of the train, you know, behind Mando,
and Mando says, oh yeah, two men made some vague
threats and a lot of Thomas the tank engine references

(01:21:50):
at me back there. But before them, it was really
pretty quiet, says Mando, and John Wick nods, All right, well,
I'm going to rest here as I have received injuries,
and any other reality would totally sideline me for like
a week, but I just need to catch my breath.
I'll keep an eye on your friends back there. And
so Mando and Baby Yoda keep moving on up the train.

(01:22:11):
In the next car, they find Brad Pitt and he's like, oh, man,
have you guys seen a briefcase? And Bando says no,
and brad Pitt says man, and then he keeps going
towards the back of the train. So Mando looks at
Baby Yoda and says, Okay, you're right, we should have
taken a sky transport to moss Eisley, and Baby Yoda

(01:22:33):
looks up at Mando adorably and then burps. So then
Mando and Baby Yoda get to the first car on
the train, and inside it are a whole bunch of
guys with swords and knives and guns, and there's one
woman with a snake and everyone is fighting everybody else
and it's just like crazy, And before Mando can even
do anything, they've all managed to wipe each other out.

(01:22:53):
And then on the other end of the train, on
the other side of this pile of bodies, he sees
her Bo Katan, the Dark Saber. I need it, she says,
I told you before you can take it, says Mando.
You know that's not how it works, she says, and
Mandoz size and he sets down Baby Yoda, who casually
grabs the snake that that one woman was using and

(01:23:15):
then starts to eat it. And Mando and Bokaton begin
to close in on each other, and when they're about
fifteen feet apart, Mando says, oh and points behind Bokatan,
and she says, you don't really think I'm gonna fall
for that. You don't think I'm that stupid, do you?
And Mando says nothing, but he braces himself and we

(01:23:35):
see what Mando saw that the train has no driver
and it is rapidly approaching a barrier laid across the tracks,
a thick barrier, and Bokaton, unable to resist, turns to
look just before the collision and lets out of oh
s and then boom, the train crashes. Cars go flying

(01:23:56):
off the track, Some of the train cars break in half,
some slide hundreds of feet, colliding with small buildings nearby,
and out of the rubble, we see Mando stand up,
and before he can even panic, he looks over to
his right and there's Baby Yoda happily slurping up the
last of the snake's tail. Come on, Mando says, and

(01:24:17):
picks up baby Yoda. Together they walked towards the little buildings,
and we watched them walk further away from camera, and
then the foreground we see a bit of rubble move
and an arm clad in Mandalorian armor emerges, and then
Sandra Bullock shows up for a cameo cut to credits.
That was That was delightful. Thank you for the surprise

(01:24:40):
and gift. I do not have any pitch meeting quick
mashups that I can throw in there. So did you
also watch a Bullet Train over the holidays? Hey? I
watched Bullet Trade on a plane, well two plane flights technically,
one from Atlanta to Philadelphia, and then I watched the
second and half from Philadelphia to Atlanta. What do you think? Um?

(01:25:05):
I like, okay, funny enough. I like the first half
a lot, and the second half kind of didn't work
nearly as well for me. But um like all the
tangerine and lemon stuff I loved. I loved every scene
that they were in. Um, But yeah, it things get
so crazy in the second half of that movie that

(01:25:27):
I started to kind of not connect with the film anymore,
and that's when I found it less interesting. But the
first half I actually really liked. I thought when originally
when I was watching it, I told my wife Becca,
I said, this is like smoking Aces, but better. And
then by the end of it, I said, no, this
is like smoking Aces. I really like the the cameos

(01:25:54):
in there, because there was more than just a Sandra
Bullet cameo. Um. There was also a Ryan Reynolds cameo,
which hilarious because Brad Pitt did a cameo and a
Ryan Reynolds movie Deadpool two. Yeah. Ryan, Ryan Reynolds has
no lines, but he does appear, yes, And then Channing
Tatum Channem t. Channing Tatum also has a Channem Chating

(01:26:21):
also has a cameo, which is hilarious because Brad Pitt
and Cedro Bulick and Channing Tatum We're all in the
Lost City of d which was a cute uh Romancing
the Stone knockoff. Yeah, I I agree. Once you once
you find out what's happening and all of this stuff
kind of hits the fan, it does lose a little

(01:26:42):
bit of its magic for sure. Yeah. I felt like
it was something it was building to something that could
not possibly pay off, And that's kind of how I
felt it all turned out in the end. Not that
I think it's a bad movie. It's just I don't
think it's sort of like when you watch a fan
made trailer where the trailer is super cool, but then

(01:27:05):
if you really think about it, you realize there's no
way to actually make a full movie based off this
trailer that would one make sense and to actually build
to a satisfying climax. Um. The example I give everybody
is years and years and years ago, some some filmmakers
made kind of almost like a demo reel that where

(01:27:27):
they made a fake trailer for a movie called Grayson
that's about Dick Grayson, the former Robin. And to this day,
I think that that trailer is pretty good. Like it's
it's clearly done on no budget at all. Some of
the acting is cringeworthy, but it's a really neat idea.

(01:27:48):
It got people really excited. They didn't realize it was
just a kind of a film exercise. But if you
were to watch that and really critically think, how would
you make a movie that has all these different pieces
in it? You would come to the conclusion of oh,
you couldn't or if you did, it would just be
a mess. Yeah. Um. But that being said, I'm glad

(01:28:10):
you watched it and thank you for the mashup. It
was wonderful. If our listeners out there have an idea
of how they would mash up Mandalorian, Bullet Train and
John Wick. Uh, the name of it was the Mandalorian
and grow Goo in Train of Death. I love it.
I love it. You should write us and tell us. UM.

(01:28:31):
You can do so on social media by reaching out
to us at on Twitter as long as it's around
at ellen c Underscore podcast, or on Facebook and Instagram
at large nor Dround Collector. We also have a discord. Uh.
It does not have many people on it, but if
you all join then you can all talking geek out
about things. Uh. And our discord is also a large
nor Drunk Collector. Yeah, and I'm sure we can put

(01:28:54):
links on that in the show notes if Ariel has
time to do that. She's the workhorse who does that
sort of thing. I edited the shows and she does
the web page, and you're you're more of the workhorse.
At some point this weekend, I will get all of
this up on social um if you're listening before I

(01:29:14):
get there, so by Monday we should be golden. Um.
Also if you if you like the show, tell your
friends and share episodes and rate and review and like
us and all of that. We really do appreciate it.
And again, thank you to the people who man, I'm
just steamrolling you, Jonathan. Again, thank you to the people
who sent us uh episode suggestions. We are definitely working

(01:29:38):
on those. Yeah, yeah, we're looking forward to doing them.
And some of them might end up being episodes that
we record ahead of time so that we can take
time off for things like you know, Christmas, New Years,
so you might still get an episode that way. That
all depends obviously on us being able to make time
to do the recordings, and it's not all that kind
of stuff, but we're hoping to do it. We're doing

(01:30:00):
this for fun, like that's We're doing it for the
love of one each other, to all of you folks
and three of all the geeky stuff out there. So
you know, the bigger the community is, the more love
there is to go around. That's ultimately what we're doing
this for. Until you hear me talk about Casper mattresses,

(01:30:21):
in which case then I'm just doing it for the money.
We batt'll he to day, Jonathan, until next time, when
hopefully we'll be shorter. I have been aerial, hasn't been
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