February 10, 2021 • 48 mins
While we know not everyone is in to Valentines Day, we though it was a perfect time to share the love on some worthy news items, adoringly reminisce on the fictional crushes that shaped our geekihood, and make a love connection between two unlikely stories.
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Speaker 1 (00:07):
The Large Nerdron Collider Podcast is a production of I
Heart Radio. Hi everybody, Welcome to The Large Nerdron Collider Podcast,
the podcast that's all about the geeky things happening in
the world around us and how very excited we are
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about them. I'm Ariel Casting and with me, as always
is Internet darling Jonathan Strict. I'm a darling an Ariel.
I got a question for you, Okay, Ariel, here's your question.
Kirk Picard, Pike, Cisco, Jane Way or Archer. And I
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know I could have added more in there, but I
gave up. Um. I have a better card with this,
oh with the close second of Cisco, because Steep Space
nine is my favorite series. I thought, I thought for
sure you were going to pick Cisco. I was. I
thought for sure, I was. I was. I was really
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betting on it. I kind of had a crush on Piccard.
So okay, so you've got the things. That's what I mean, Ariel.
I'm married, so I mean no like because Patrick Stewart
is very endearing and kind of dramatic, and at the
time he was younger, so he wasn't that old. I mean,
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all these things you're saying apply to me too, Ariel.
I mean, you know, this is our Valentine's Day episode.
If you've got something to say, just say it, you know,
I mean, Jonathan you I love you as a friend,
my friend. Okay, who is your favorite? Um? You know
what I think? I think? Um? I think I'm also
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going to go with Picard. Uh like I I like Kirk. Um.
I thought Cisco was interesting. Um. I didn't watch too
much of Voyager or Enterprise, So while I put Jane
Way and Archer on there, I couldn't really pick them
in good conscience just because I haven't seen enough stuff
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with them as captain. So I guess I'm gonna go
with Piccard as well. I thought Picard was fantastic. He
was fairly consistent in the Next Generation, writing like he
he was mostly of the mind who of someone who
follows the rule of the law, you know, he he
doesn't break outside of it. He's very uh uh, very
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strict and that in that way, like he doesn't want
people to go outside of the rules of the Federation.
And then there's a bit of a turn, you know,
kind of after he gets borgafied spoiler um, where he
gets he gets a little more fast and loose with
some of the rules and even challenges them at times,
but mostly he was fairly consistent. Every now and then
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you've got an episode where you're like, I don't feel
like the person who wrote this one has ever watched
any other Next Generation episodes. But that was the exception,
not the rule. I mean, I think, I think that's
exactly it. You know, I one, he was my first captain.
I did watch some original series as a kid, but
Next Shan was what I grew up with first. But
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he he could Shennan when he needed to, and that's endearing.
We're going to talk about fictional crushes later on in
this episode, and a lot of mine are a little
bit a little bit zany and and up for the Shenan,
So I like the rogue types. I can't wait till
we go through that list and reveal embarrassing truths about ourselves.
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But before we get to any we've got some headlines
to get through, right, yes, And the first one is
what is a headline I didn't expect to be excited about,
but I'm very, very excited about it, which is Marvel
Studios now has a writer for their new Blade movie,
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and that writer is Stacy O. Sayfore and uh, she
is notable because not only is she the first black
woman to write a Marvel movie for the m c U,
but she wrote the recent miniseries Watchman, which was phenomenal. Yes,
she is a notable playwright as well, so she's got
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a long history in writing for performance. We do not
yet have a director attached to this project, but we
do know that the Marvel seems to be taking real
steps to try and actually walk the walk when it
comes to promoting diversity in their projects. We're seeing this
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reflected in a lot of different Marvel titles which spoiler
not alert, but you know, news alert for everybody. That
was not the norm for superhero movies for like decades.
It was essentially white dudes who were writing and directing films,
whether or not the protagonist was white. It was very
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rare that you had someone who wasn't a white dude
writing or directing one of these movies. So we're starting
to see that change, and I'm really excited because when
you bring more voices to the table to be able
to tell these kind of stories, you get news stories.
You're not retreading the same stuff. We've seen a billion times.
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So I think that that's a fantastic change and one
that's going to benefit tons of people, um, you know,
at least of all like the audience. I mean, we're
gonna get some pretty cool stories. I think. Yeah, I
do too. And you know, I'm I'm excited about Blade
because it's been a long time since we got the
first Blade movies, which we're kitchy and fun. Um. And
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I also like Mirshela Ali who is playing Blade, and
so I just I think that this is a really
jack pot team to put this story together. I just
hope they cast more professional wrestlers as like the heavies,
you know, like Triple H or Edge or something, and
get some more big, big, big beefy dudes to get
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hacked to pieces by Blade. That's what I'm hoping for.
That would be fun. Uh. So our next story is
also Marvel And that's for anybody who watched the Super
Bowl or wait, wait, anything around it. Wait wait wait
the super Bowl. I thought it was the superb Owl.
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Six of one, half a dozen of the other. No
wonder I didn't see anything just because the weekend's dance
crew looked like the Court of Owls from Batman doesn't
make the entire event Owl theme. I'll take your word
for it. All I know is Tom Brady won a game.
That's all I know about. But but but I do.
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I have watched the trailer that you're you were desperately
trying to set up as I was derailing you. And
that trailer, of course, is for the Falcon and the
Winner Soldier. Uh. It's a series that is coming to
Disney Plus. It was originally supposed to come out before
one Division, but but it got pushed back due to
covid or delays in the production, and now we're going
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to see it come to Disney Plus March nineteenth. We
got a trailer during the superb Owl and it was,
you know, a more expansive trailer than what we saw
with the teaser. And honestly, this one got me more
excited for the series than the teaser did. That's what
I was going to ask, because I know after we
watched the teaser, both you and I felt kind of
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lukewarm on the series, both having expected to be super
excited about it. This one had a lot more humor,
it had a lot more excitement. We saw Baron Zumo
come in uh, and then Peggy Carter's Charter, Sharon Carter,
Sharon Sharon Carter come in and so we know a
lot more of the players. We got to see a
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lot more of the back and forth. I'm much more
excited about this series now. And and you know the
fact that we get characters who the last time we
saw these characters were Captain America Civil War, so it was,
you know, quite some time ago in the Marvel Cinemaic
Universe timeline, because you've got to remember that five years
passed between h the Infinity War and Endgame, so quite
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a bit of time has passed. You get to I'm
assuming we're going to get to learn how these characters
have been navigating their worlds. Sharon Carter apparently has been
largely in hiding since Civil War because you know, she
kind of did some things that her nation would think
of as treasonous in helping Captain America during that time.
So I'm very very eager to see more about this.
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The humor, as you point out, look like, you know,
it looked more on form. One of the interesting things
I saw when I was reading up on the series
was that there appeared to be some sort of um
response to two fans who for some reason weren't big
fans of One Division. They felt like it was too
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much of a departure, and this looks like it's more
of a return to form for m c U. To me,
that's why I liked One Division so much, because it
was new and different, whereas I don't mind the return
to form. But that to me is not a positive.
It's more like, I like this even though it looks
like more of the same. I agree. I I feel
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like wand Division was a nice like a moose bush
to refresh my palette from eating a lot of macaroni
and cheese. I love macaroni and cheese, but if I
eat too much of it, I get really tired of it.
So she was, so, Wan Division is just like this
nice light break. Well it's not really light, but this
nice break from it before we go back in. Uh,
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something else that I hope will be a nice, fun
departure from the normal Marvel Mille. You is this upcoming
spinoff series that's being pitched, Jonathan, Why don't you talk
about this because because I know the guy, because you
know the guy. So we're talking about Stephen Ford, who
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is an actor a writer and a director. He uh
is someone that I've met at a ce S a
few years ago. We have a mutual friend, and um,
he was hanging out with this mutual friend when I
came by to hang out with this mutual friend. So
by force of association we got to know each other.
Cool dude. And he tweeted about how he thought Jimmy Woo,
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the the FBI character who is in Aunt Man and
also in One Division, should get his own spinoff series
in something along the style of the X Files. So
some and who's investigating weird phenomena in the Marvel universe.
And I responded immediately, I was like, this to me,
sounds like a slam dunk because it reminds me a
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lot of Agent Coulson. How that character started as a
supporting character, fans really started to latch onto him, and
he ended up becoming the lynchpin for the Agents of
Shield series. And this could be kind of a successor
to Agents of Shield in that regard, following a a
normal human character navigating the strange, supernatural, and super powerful
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world of Marvel. And so I was totally on board.
And it turns out that apparently just by making that
tweet and being related to the the industry, he ended
up getting uh some interest from Marvel and it was
apparently invited to pitch his idea more formally, and so
this past weekend that's what he was working on. I
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don't know any more details. I haven't chatted with him
about it. In fact, I didn't even know that it
had gone that extra step until you Ariel had put
this story in our lineup, and you didn't even know
that I knew the guy. I didn't. But I'm also
excited because Randall Park, who plays Agent Wu, is totally
on board for this. So I really hope it happens.
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I realized some people might go, like we're saying not
more general Marvel feel. Some people might go, I've had
enough X Files feel shows. But I think it could
be really baller. Yeah. And I mean, like, there's no
telling how what kind of tone this would have. You
figure that there would be some sort of, you know,
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kind of lighthearted nature to it because the character of
Wu has got that kind of of of feel about him,
like he always seems pretty upbeat and kind of funny
while also being a little geeky. Um, So I really
love his his portrayal of the character are both in
the ant Man films and in one division, he's I
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think he's one of the bright spots consistently and uh,
and so I would love to see a full series
with him as the starring role. I agree. And our
final story for this new segment is about a series
that I like with a central character that I like,
Mass Effect. Yeah, and Mass Effect is coming out with
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a new legendary edition of all three of the game's
original games. Yeah, not the not the follow up that
got absolutely lambasted for all of the the bugs and
and glitches and story elements, but the original trilogy of
Mass Effect games. And apparently in this new remaster, some
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of the scenes are going to be uh, you know,
not not as not as gratuitous in the the lingering
on certain attributes of the human body or sometimes alien body.
So I guess, uh, the show, the series is no
longer going to be as Effect. Yeah, they said, well,
they weren't super concerned with the camera angles. They also
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figured that gratuitous butt shots didn't really match up with
audience and it didn't hurt the story. I need to
just the cammer angle just a little bit. Yeah, I
kind of okay, So I kind of want to see
the same treatment given to We were just talking about
the m c U some of Marvel films, because whenever
there was a Marvel movie featuring Black Widow, you could
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guarantee that there was going to be at least a
half dozen shots that really focused on her rear end um,
especially the Joss Whedon ones. Uh. So I actually, as
it was happening, I was like, this is a little unnecessary.
I can see exactly what's going on here, and I
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don't think it's really needed. Uh And I'm not a
prouder or anything. I just thought like, this is kind
of this feels kind of creepy to me. It feels
a little sleazy. So the same sort of thing here.
I think it's this idea that that the way that
we depict characters and media is undergoing a massive change
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and over overdue change because of changing sensibilities, and this
is an opportunity to kind of address some things that. Again,
like you were saying, Ariel, it's not that it was
over the top. It wasn't like zooming in. It wasn't
like one of the one of those beach volleyball games
or anything. Like that, but it was probably not really
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needed the way it was framed up, it wasn't And
some of it is just like based around. For instance,
if you play a female shepherd and you decide to
wear a dress, is that character when you sit in
a chair, you sit in a chair the same way
that a male shepherd sits in the chair, which is
with your legs. Splite, open man, spreading, flattering, ma'am spreading.
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But you know it doesn't because unlike a movie where
they'd have to reshoot or pick a different camera angle
for this, they can't change the animations, but they can
change where the visuals focus. Just moving it up a
little bit makes it so much more flattering. I look
forward to it this game. The remastering looks beautiful. I
don't really need to play all three games again, but
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I'm really really tempted by this. So yes, Well, that's
our our final story for this this headline section, although
we are going to mention before we go to break
because this will come back to play when we do
our mash up at the end of the episode. One
other quick item is that Cinderella, the Rogers and Hammerstein
version the musical that Brandy did many years ago with
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Whitney Houston as well is coming to Disney. Plus, we
thought it was important we mentioned it because she's going
to show up again in our mesh up. Yes, but
first we're gonna take a quick break. Aerial, Yes, Jonathan,
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So you know our next episode comes out after Valentine's
Day right now, it's before it comes out before. No. No,
our next episode, our next episode comes out after Valentine's
not the one we're not, the one we're recording right now, ok.
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I mean the one, the one that we'll sit down
and record next Monday, comes out after Valentine's Day, which
means that we are doing our Valentine's Day episode a
few days early. You know that that's on Sunday. We're
coming out on Wednesday. But we thought that some a
fun discussion, potentially fun discussion, would be to go over
five crushes that we have had on fictional characters. Originally,
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Aerial had pitched the idea of animated characters. But I'm
not a weirdo, so I've never That's that's that came
out wrong. I have never, as far as I know,
I've never had a crush on an enemy. Maybe Jessica Rabbit.
But let's be honest, I was going through a special
time in my life when who Fred Roger Rabbit came out,
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So I'm not going to count that one. So we're
gonna go with fictional crushes, which may or may not
be animated minor all live action. Um, who would you
like to go first? Do you want me to go
first or do you want to go first? I'll go first,
tell you what. I'll go first for this and you
go first for the mashup when we get to it. Okay, okay,
But first I want to say, having a crush on
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a cartoon character is not necessarily creepy. You know, I
know so many of my guy friends said that when
they were young they had a crush on Gadget from
Rescue Rangers or Penny from Inspector Gadget. It was Nydrey Keenny.
Come on, they were children, they were children watching the
show who had a little child crush this other child
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that you're gonna tell me it was gonna be that
that rabbit from Space Jam? Um? No, but that too, Lola. Yeah, okay,
I've never I've never seen Space Jam. So alright, so
my first two crushes, I'll do my first one, but
my first to so you know, I've ordered these sort
of chronologically when I encountered them, but the first two
I bot I I saw when I was a little kid,
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but the I went ahead and order them chronologically as
to when the properties came out. So my first crush
is mary Anne Summers from Gilligan's Island. Of course, yeah,
she's the only Summers, So Buffy, sorry about that, you
don't make the list. Mary Anne Summers makes the list
as she was Girl next Door, a girl from Kansas
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who wins the contest. That's why she's on that three
hour tour on the Minnow, which of course ends up
being uh washed up on a shore of a uncharted
desert isle and uh. And she was sort of the
the grounded, sensible character in the show. She was the
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more sensible foil to Ginger the movie star, and had
that had that farm girl girl next door kind of
appearance to her that as a kid I just thought
was I thought she was the most beautiful woman I
had ever seen, and I had a massive crush on
her as a child. She she is gorgeous and I
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loved her character the best on Gilligan's Island myself. I
didn't have a crush on her, but I loved her
because she didn't have ulterior motives. She was very genuine
in her actions. So great choice. Okay, your person, I'm
judging you, but great choice. I'll be judging you going
back and forth. Um, okay, So I'm going to start
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with the three that I'm certain of, because there's a
whole bunch that I like. I have this long list.
My crushes changed so much throughout my childhood and young
adult years, and I guess even now I crush on characters.
So um, my first one is going to be Rosencrantz
from Rosencrantz and Guildenstern Are Dead. The one with Tim
Roth and Gary Oldman because he was just adorable and
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sweet and creative and always like experimenting, and he was
a cuteie. I've had have such a crush on that
character that I still think Gary Oldman is cute to
this day because he played the character. I was about
to ask you which of the two that was, because,
like like the the movie, it's hard to tell them apart.
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But in the film that's a that's an ongoing gag too.
That's true, and it's It's even interesting because I was
in Hamlet and some of the lines that Guildenstern and
Rosenkrantz have in Rosencrantz and Guildenstern Are Dead are transposed
from who says it in Hamlet as well. So uh,
basically I had to go look up online and go
which one was Gary Oldman again, because that's the one
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I had a crush on. The other one was a
little bit too snippy. Um nothing against Tim Roth for
his acting abilities, but that character was less kind and innocent,
and so yeah, Rantz was the He's My favorite of
the two is the is Guildenstern, although my favorite character
in that in that play is the leading player who
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Richard dreyf has played him in the movie. Um, fantastic,
fantastic choice. All Right, so you fun fact I was
Rosen Cranston Hamlet. Fun fact Rosenkranston Gillenstern are Dead as
one of the only plays I ever dropped out of. Okay,
so my next crush crushed Number two, which I had
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concurrently with Mary Anne Summers, was wonder Woman as played
by Linda Carter. I don't know that I need to
explain why she was amazing. She kicked, but she was
competent and intelligent and never back down from any of
the bad guys. And she was gorgeous as well, so
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like all of those things together. Plus she could change
her outfit just about twirling in place. You know, I
tried that as a young girl, was not as successful
as Wonder Woman was. Does your crush extend to Wonder
Woman beyond Linda Carter? No, it's specifically the Linda Carter
version of Wonder Woman? Gotcha? Gotcha. I really like Wonder
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Woman because she is such a competent warrior. She's she's
she's very like, go get them, So I really like
she can also be very kind. But I like that
she is sometimes interpreted as just sorry for the language,
a badass. I mean, I said as effect earlier. I
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think you're okay, who's your number two? Fair enough? Um? Okay,
so I'm gonna say doctor Who. I'm gonna say it's
the for Eccleston one, yes, yes, uh. And I think
that's because okay, so for me, doctor Who should not
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the doctor should not be a romantic character. Whenever they
uh bring in a romantic plotline, I always get really
bored with it. I like, I like that character to
be kind of outside of it. That being said, while
tom Baker was my first Doctor, I remember watching Eccleston
was the first of the new series, and just I
think that excitement of here's this character that I love
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that I want to go, like, I want to go
on these wonderful adventures with him. It looks like so
much fun came back in. Eccleston just had this great
balance of quirky with solemnness that just was really brilliant.
I like the moment that he reached out and grabbed
Rose's hand in the first episode and and said come
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with me, Like that was just like, ah, yes, I
am into this, and um yeah, I loved him. You know,
Christopher Egilson ain't bad looking, but it was just he's
he's got this really great charm about him, and it's
just a story I already loved. Kind of along those
lines Peter Pan, although Peter Pan is a much meaner
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spirited character, but that whole idea is like, yes, let's
go away and adventure is very appealing to me. I
was not. I was not on board with Doctor like
I you know me, I tried to watch Dr Who
and I was not getting into it until there was
an episode where the doctor figures out a solution where
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he realizes he can save everybody and he actually, you know,
gets excited and says, everybody lives. And it was that
moment where I actually got emotionally invested in the character
because it was the first time that I saw the
doctor seemed to actually care about people and not just
we're going on a crazy adventure. But he you learned,
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he genuinely cares for people. It's just that he's kind
of built up defenses around that and hasn't let on
to that. But when at that moment when he realizes
he can save everyone, all of that comes crashing down,
and I was like, oh, then that is one of
my favorite episodes. You know, the laws of time travel
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are a cruel cruel mistress, so I could only imagine
it would take a toll on an individual. All right,
My number three Dana Scully from The X Files. Yeah,
so here's the thing about Scully that I loved. She
well multiple things, capable, incredibly intelligent, She knew, uh like
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the procedures. She was of a very critical thinking kind
of nature, very skeptical to me, The most frustrating thing
about X Files is that Dana Scully was consistently giving
the rite in for Nation the right answers, the right procedure,
and was consistently wrong. And that's what drove me nuts,
is because she was doing everything a critical thinker should do.
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It's just that she happened to inhabit a universe where
the supernatural was real, and the only thing they got
frustrating was that season after season you started to say, Okay,
I get that she's a critical thinker by nature. However,
she also has been through multiple years of crazy stuff
going on around her and she still is of the
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mind to say, well, that's just not possible. I'm like,
come on, lady, You've seen people climb up walls and
control stuff with their minds. That probably get a little frustrating,
but the way that character was presented was really appealing
to me. Nice. Nice. I don't have much to say
on that. I didn't watch X Files, but I think that, yeah,
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that's a great choice. Okay, you're number three. Okay, my
number three is Jack Kelly from newss. Is he the
one who's going to Santa Fe. He's the one going
to Santa Fe. He's a rogue with a heart of gold,
and he can sing and dance like it doesn't. It
can be Christian Bale, it can be any of the
Broadway actors. It is entirely character based, not at all
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actor based. I just I wanted to live in the
news He's world. It's not a great world to live in.
But I know when Mr Hurst is around, you're not
going to have a good time. That is true. Okay
number four, Okay, yeah, I'm moving right along. Willow Rosenberg
from Buffy the Vampire Slayer. Willow was the one I
had the crush on, not Buffy. I thought Willow was adorable.
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She was smart, she was vulnerable, She grew as a character,
became more capable, more self confident. I didn't always agree
with some of the choices that the writer's made in
developing her character. I felt that some of them were inconsistent,
or they weren't really you couldn't really support some of
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the choices based on the the earlier stuff from that character.
That being said, I really like Dallison Hannigan's portrayal of
the character. I loved her sort of awkward nerdiness um
and I loved her sense of humor, and she I
had a huge crush on that character, clearly not a
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crush on the actress. She has played other characters that
I found absolutely abhorrent, so so it's literally that character.
So at least I recognized the difference, right, because there
are a lot of actors who have stories about fans
who have crushes on a character they played, and they
just project that that character is the same as the actor. Um,
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you're number four, okay, My number four is Dmitri from
Anastasia slash Kale Tucker from Titan A. Is that the
bat No, it's the romantic interest and the lead character, respectively. Oh.
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I had dore bar talk, but I did not have
a crush on him. I've wanted to put him in
my pocket and carry him around for comedic relief, but
I didn't have a crush on him. But the reason
why those two are slashed together is because at the
time those two came out, I remember me and my
friends would always go, it's the same character, just with
different colored hair. They're both rogue ish, they both have
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have a snarky sense of humor, and they look kind
of similar. Looking back now, I can tell that they're
different character types, largely except for in profile, but yeah,
just more rogues. Okay, so you got a type, is
what I'm learning. Um My fifth and final is and
this is a throwback to our earlier discussion about the
m c U Peggy Carter, uh, Peggy Carter from Captain
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America slash Agent Carter, because once again we have an
incredibly intelligent, incredibly capable woman evident in her abilities. Uh.
She she is aware of people's perceptions of her and
can often use that to her own advantage. So while
she is constantly and consistently faced with unfair situations, she
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also knows how to maneuver within those to get to
her goals, even though it's unfair that she should have
to maneuver through them. Um. I really admired the character
and I also I mean, you know, again, absolutely gorgeous character,
like those hairstyles and everything that just that I'm a
sucker for him. So and that red hat, oh, that
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red fedora that was such so pretty. I'm not a
fashion guy typically or a costume guy that much, but
but they really picked great looks for the character, and um, yeah,
it's just a fantastic realization of that character. On screen. Yeah,
I mean I have a crush on her outfits um,
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and the red hat reminds me of Carmen san Diego
a lot um. Alright, my fifth crush. I really struggled
with this one because I didn't know if I wanted
to go new or old, because new would be lowkey.
But I think Burt from Mary Poppins beats out Loki
any Day too? Are so similar? Are they? Well? I
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mean they've both been reality. They do, but one does
so out of kindness and goodness and the other one
does so out of being a little meani head. Burnes
is the goodness kindness. Lokis the meani head one. I
know Loki as are deeping. I really like that character.
But no, Burt, Burt from Mary Poppins. He's so sweet,
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he's so fun. And Dick van Dyke when he was
young was quite the cutie. So terrible accent, terrible accent,
terrible accent. But but if if Loki sings a song
about Chimney sweeps in the new series, I will be
on board for that too. M hmm, that would be good. Well,
we've got our fictional crushes done. If you guys have
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your own fictional crushes you want to send, don't be creepy.
You can do so in our email which is l
n C at I heart media dot com. When we
come back from the break, we will be mashing up
a beloved fairy tale character with a musical that is
my no joke, my favorite musical of all time. But hey,
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I will not be singing this time, so that's something.
But that's after this break. Okay, So we're back, and um,
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we have chosen to mash up together Cinderella the fairy
Tale with a Little Shop of Horrors, which was originally
a Roger Corman produced low budget horror comedy that was
essentially made on a bet where there was a bet
place that can you make a film with this low
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of a budget? Uh, which Roger Corman did manage to do.
He produced that film, mostly notable for Jack Nicholson having
a really odd cameo. If you've seen the musical, he
plays the same character that Bill Murray plays in the
the film musical. And then Ashman and Mancoln, the same
team behind Little Mermaid and Beauty and the Beast for Disney,
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wrote a musical version that was that took the film
and adapted it for the stage, which then, of course
got adapted into a film directed by Frank oz Uh.
They changed the ending because they the original ending is
a downer, so they changed it to be more of
a happy ending. Um, and that's the story behind Little
Shop of Hers. I don't think we really need to
explain the origin of Cinderella pretty much a universal Yeah,
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I will agree. Little Shop of hors is one of
my favorite musicals. It's also a great love story, which
is why I picked it for this mash up. Yeah,
less so in the version that I did. But okay, okay, Well,
since I agreed to go first on this, this is
Center Shop of Horrors, a twisted tale of plants and romance.
In a small village in the region of York, there
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lived a poor young man named Seymour Krell Bornella Lord.
After his parents died, he was stuck living with his
step uncle mush Nick Krell Boornella, and his brother's stepbrothers
or In Arthur. His uncle and stepbrothers treated him like
dirt and called him a slob. They forced him to
live and maintain their family flower shops, sweeping the floor
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and delivering orders. The same flower shop also happened to
be a favorite place for the royal family to purchase
their flowers for any royal event. One day, the Princess
of the Kingdom, Her Royal Highness Christina Ruperta Gwendoline Goslin,
Carla Alexandra Francis, Regina Ansela Audrey, Yes Audrey Audrey, Geraldine Jane,
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was having a ball. She stopped by the flower shop
to pick just the right foliage for the event herself.
She had never been to the flower shop before, but
this was the first ball that was all hers. When
she and Seymour locked eyes, it was instant chemistry. She
ordered the flowers from Seymour and gave him an invitation
to stay for the party to help her care for
the flowers during the Galah. Of of course, however, Or
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and Author, who also took to the princess, insisted on
helping deliver the flowers themselves, despite the fact that they
had never actually done so before. No matter, Seymour would
get to see the princess again, and that's all that
mattered to him. Her face was as exquisite as a rose,
she was as dainty as a daisy, and her gait
was as graceful as a bird. However, when the day
of the flower delivery and the ball came, the brothers
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trashed the flower shop so that Seymour would have to
stay in clean up. They tossed him a broom and
left cackling. Seymour was distraught, but started cleaning. When he
opened the door to sweep all the dirt from the
broken pots into the backyard. At the shop, he noticed
three songbirds circling and tripping loudly and frantically near a tree.
When he went to look at their what there to
do was all about? He saw nothing. He was about
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to go back and back into the shop and opened
his own little corner of the store when something that
his toe. He looked down and there was a knee
high plant. He wasn't sure how he missed it, but
that wasn't the oddest thing. The oddest thing was that
the plant opened up his mouth and started talking. That's right, boy,
it said, I'm your fairy godflower, your friend, your genie.
You want to get it, then listen to me. He
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unfurled a plan for Seymour to bring the flower plant,
very godflower thing to the ball, leaving it in the courtyard.
Then he would go into the ball, Seymour would avoiding
the princess and tell his brothers that they had left
a plant back at the shop, and without it, the
Princess's order would be incomplete, and then the plant would
take care of the rest. It seemed impossible, but so
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did a talking plant, And so Seymour daft and dewey
eyed dope that he was put on a fresh, clean apron,
his best one and the plant, and headed nervously to
the gala. Uh. It was a lovely night at the ball,
I mean, really, a finer night I know you'd never see.
He placed the plant in the courtyard by the steps
of the palace and went to follow the fairy godflowers plans.
When Seymour told the brothers of their mistake, they were mad,
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and they dragged him out to the courtyard with them.
How could they have missed something, and how could he
have the gall to call him out on it. However,
as they were doing so, the princess looked in that direction, and,
thinking she saw a glimpse of Seymour, followed shortly behind,
dodging her way through the guests. When the brothers and
Seymour got to the courtyard, the plant got fairy godflower
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opened up and ate the brothers. Seymour was so frightened
that he grabbed the plant and ran away, dropping the
plot pot at the plant was in as he did. Uh.
He went to retrieve it, but he saw the princess
coming out of the castle and he didn't want to
be caught with murder charges of his brothers, so he
left and slipped away before she could see him. When
the princess reached the courtyard, there were no brothers and
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no Seymour, only one and flower pot. When Seymour got
back to the shop, he threw the flower into the
yard and locked the door behind him. Distraught, the next day,
the princess ventured to the village to return the pot
to the flower shop to see if it was his,
and in hopes of seeing Seymour again. She saw the
fairy godflower laying in the yard of the shop and
placed it in the pot. It fit perfectly, and she
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knew that it was Seymour. She glanced at the ball
just then, however, the plant reared up to eat the princess. Thankfully,
Seymour was on his way out of the shop just
at that moment to destroy the plant. And caught him
trying to eat the princess. Knowing that a fight would
add and badly for everyone, Seymour made a deal with
the plant. He would let the plant take over the
shop and the village if the plant would let Seymour
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escape with the princess. The princess was so in love
with Seymour that she agreed, and together they abandoned the
village to the mean green mother and fled to somewhere
that's green to live happily ever after. Wow, my story
is a little darker than yours, so prepare yourself. Um. Also,
I have a pun in mine that I am so
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proud of that I just I'm gonna take a moment
to bask in how great the pun is and how
thankful I am that you didn't steal it. So here
we go. Okay, We open on a cottage on skid row.
The inhabitants of said cottage are Lady mush Nick, her
daughter's Grazella and Anastasia, and her stepdaughter sinder Krellborne, so
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called because she must make her bed in the cinders
of the fireplace, which is very hot and Bernie. Lady
Mushnick barely tolerates her stepdaughter, forcing her to do tons
of chores and to serve as the physical laborer for
the family's meager business, a pumpkin shop. Sindor Krellborne has
no real education, no prospects, and no ambition, because when
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you live on skid Row, ain't no such thing. She
sings out her feelings with a tune in my own
little corner of skid Row Downtown. Her stepsisters tell her
to shut up. Cinder crew Born hears that the local
palace is to throw a magnificent ball in order for
the resident prince to meet all suitable well suitors. She
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dreams of getting to see the palace, to wear a
magnificent gown, and to perhaps even catch sight of the
Prince himself. But of course she's a lowly orphan working
in a pumpkin shop on skid Row. However, she does
have one thing going for her. A few weeks earlier,
she had been at the village market looking at pumpkin
plant cuttings to try and help create stronger pumpkin plants
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for the shop. Back home, when there was a total
liclipse of the sun, which we hear about in a
song called Bippity Boppity Dadoo. After a weird flash of
light and a sound as if something from another world.
There's a big golden pumpkin plant sitting where Sinder Crewbourne
was sure nothing had been before. But the old man
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running the shops sold it to her anyway for a
dollar ninety five, and she took it back home. She
called it the gust gust Us in honor of Gus
Gus the bouse. The pumpkin was like no other, with
a mouth and teeth and stuff very odd. Sindor Crelbourne
takes the pumpkin plant out and puts it on display,
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and it quickly starts to get the attention of the neighborhood.
On the one hand, Lady Mushnik is thrilled she suddenly
has customers and the money starts to enter the family coffers.
On the other hand, she supremely irritated that Sindor Crelbourne
is getting more attention than her own daughters, and she
consistently finds excuses to push Sindor Crelbourne into the background.
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And the ball is getting closer. Sindor creelbourne step sisters
both plan on going, but Sindor Crelbourne still has no
plans of her own, and then one night after the
shop closes and sinder Crelbourne is crying in the cinders
because her stepsisters have been cruel and she has no
hope of going to the ball Gus Gus Gus, the
pumpkin actually speaks to Sindor Crelbourne. It asks her to
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feed it, and Sindor crell Born doesn't know what to do,
but then the plant launches into a song called Impossible
about a talking plant. In the middle of the song
is a big dance number with the mice, but gust
Gus loses his balance and as he falls, Gus gust
Gus manages to chomped down on his namesake. Sindor Crelbourne
is at first horrified, but then the plant grows much
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bigger before her eyes and promises her that if she
feeds it, it will make her dreams come true. It's
her fairy gord mother, and it fulfills her. What follows
is a montage of sinder Crelbourne feeding her animal friends
no mice and birds and stuff to the hungry pumpkin,
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which chomps down in those little suckers like their hallopennial poppers.
At t g I f Soon the pumpkin plant is
the size of a carriage, and it tries to convince
Sindor Crelbourne to feed it larger critters, something Sindor Crelbourne resists,
and the night before the ball, Cinder Crelbourne is caught
out by her two step sisters, who find her arguing
with gust Gus Gus. They crow over their discovery and
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then complain that Sinder Crewlborne gets all the luck by
finding a magic plant, and they sing the step sister's lament,
and at the peak of their song, Gus gus Gus
eats them both, leaving only their feet behind. Sindor Crelborne
is horrified and relieved at the same time, and the
toughest choice she now has to make is does she
take Drasilla's dress or Anastasia's dress. Gust Gus Gus tells
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her to go with Grazella's outfit, but Anastasia's shoes, which
are still on her dismembered feet. Sindor Crolborne goes to
the ball and meets the Prince. They share a dance,
but just then she spotted by Lady Mushnik, who is
looking for her own daughters, who are supposed to be
at the ball. Mushnik tries to confront Sindor Crelborne at midnight,
who then turns tail and runs home, which happens to
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be supper time for gust gust Gus. Another song. The
Prince follows behind Sinder Crowlborne gets home with Mushnik right
there with her. She confronts Sindr Cralbo, but then sees
how big gust gust Gus has grown and is amazed.
She tells Cindr Crelbourne that she'll release her from her
duties if Sindor Crelborne just explains how to take care
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of the plant. Cinder Crelbourne, seeing no other option, lures
mush It closer to gus gus Gus, who then promptly
eats Cinder crelborne stepmother, just as the Prince comes in.
The Prince sees gust gus Gus slurp down Mushnik's leg
and screams, at which point gus gus Gus grabs the
Prince and eats him too. Charming, says gus gust Gus.
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Sindr Crelbourne, horrified, grabs a nearby axe and leaps into
the pumpkins, gaping, maw helping hoping to rescue the prince,
and we fade to black as we hear the last
song that Don't Feed the plants Waltz the end. Huh.
I was about to stay with the original Indigo Little
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Shop I can tell, I can tell, and and kind
of the more original Cinderella story too. Yeah, feet uh
horrible nous. I was gonna say, that's closer than we've
gotten on almost any other mashups so far, though. Yeah,
I decided to also have a few Rodgers and Hammerstein
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nods in mind, just as you did yours. I picked
up on those, so that was fun because of course,
you know, we also had nods to the Disney version
of Cinderella, so that was fun. But yeah, you can
you can understand why I won't be writing any treatments
for Disney's fairy Tale division anytime soon, but you might
have a future with Marvel. But dear listeners, if you
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have a better idea of how Little Shop of Horrors
and Cinderella should be mashed up, or if you want
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Heart Radio. Hi everybody, Welcome to The Large Nerdron Collider Podcast,
the podcast that's all about the geeky things happening in
the world around us and how very excited we are
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about them. I'm Ariel Casting and with me, as always
is Internet darling Jonathan Strict. I'm a darling an Ariel.
I got a question for you, Okay, Ariel, here's your question.
Kirk Picard, Pike, Cisco, Jane Way or Archer. And I
(00:54):
know I could have added more in there, but I
gave up. Um. I have a better card with this,
oh with the close second of Cisco, because Steep Space
nine is my favorite series. I thought, I thought for
sure you were going to pick Cisco. I was. I
thought for sure, I was. I was. I was really
(01:16):
betting on it. I kind of had a crush on Piccard.
So okay, so you've got the things. That's what I mean, Ariel.
I'm married, so I mean no like because Patrick Stewart
is very endearing and kind of dramatic, and at the
time he was younger, so he wasn't that old. I mean,
(01:37):
all these things you're saying apply to me too, Ariel.
I mean, you know, this is our Valentine's Day episode.
If you've got something to say, just say it, you know,
I mean, Jonathan you I love you as a friend,
my friend. Okay, who is your favorite? Um? You know
what I think? I think? Um? I think I'm also
(01:59):
going to go with Picard. Uh like I I like Kirk. Um.
I thought Cisco was interesting. Um. I didn't watch too
much of Voyager or Enterprise, So while I put Jane
Way and Archer on there, I couldn't really pick them
in good conscience just because I haven't seen enough stuff
(02:19):
with them as captain. So I guess I'm gonna go
with Piccard as well. I thought Picard was fantastic. He
was fairly consistent in the Next Generation, writing like he
he was mostly of the mind who of someone who
follows the rule of the law, you know, he he
doesn't break outside of it. He's very uh uh, very
(02:44):
strict and that in that way, like he doesn't want
people to go outside of the rules of the Federation.
And then there's a bit of a turn, you know,
kind of after he gets borgafied spoiler um, where he
gets he gets a little more fast and loose with
some of the rules and even challenges them at times,
but mostly he was fairly consistent. Every now and then
(03:06):
you've got an episode where you're like, I don't feel
like the person who wrote this one has ever watched
any other Next Generation episodes. But that was the exception,
not the rule. I mean, I think, I think that's
exactly it. You know, I one, he was my first captain.
I did watch some original series as a kid, but
Next Shan was what I grew up with first. But
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he he could Shennan when he needed to, and that's endearing.
We're going to talk about fictional crushes later on in
this episode, and a lot of mine are a little
bit a little bit zany and and up for the Shenan,
So I like the rogue types. I can't wait till
we go through that list and reveal embarrassing truths about ourselves.
(03:49):
But before we get to any we've got some headlines
to get through, right, yes, And the first one is
what is a headline I didn't expect to be excited about,
but I'm very, very excited about it, which is Marvel
Studios now has a writer for their new Blade movie,
(04:09):
and that writer is Stacy O. Sayfore and uh, she
is notable because not only is she the first black
woman to write a Marvel movie for the m c U,
but she wrote the recent miniseries Watchman, which was phenomenal. Yes,
she is a notable playwright as well, so she's got
(04:32):
a long history in writing for performance. We do not
yet have a director attached to this project, but we
do know that the Marvel seems to be taking real
steps to try and actually walk the walk when it
comes to promoting diversity in their projects. We're seeing this
(04:55):
reflected in a lot of different Marvel titles which spoiler
not alert, but you know, news alert for everybody. That
was not the norm for superhero movies for like decades.
It was essentially white dudes who were writing and directing films,
whether or not the protagonist was white. It was very
(05:16):
rare that you had someone who wasn't a white dude
writing or directing one of these movies. So we're starting
to see that change, and I'm really excited because when
you bring more voices to the table to be able
to tell these kind of stories, you get news stories.
You're not retreading the same stuff. We've seen a billion times.
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So I think that that's a fantastic change and one
that's going to benefit tons of people, um, you know,
at least of all like the audience. I mean, we're
gonna get some pretty cool stories. I think. Yeah, I
do too. And you know, I'm I'm excited about Blade
because it's been a long time since we got the
first Blade movies, which we're kitchy and fun. Um. And
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I also like Mirshela Ali who is playing Blade, and
so I just I think that this is a really
jack pot team to put this story together. I just
hope they cast more professional wrestlers as like the heavies,
you know, like Triple H or Edge or something, and
get some more big, big, big beefy dudes to get
(06:24):
hacked to pieces by Blade. That's what I'm hoping for.
That would be fun. Uh. So our next story is
also Marvel And that's for anybody who watched the Super
Bowl or wait, wait, anything around it. Wait wait wait
the super Bowl. I thought it was the superb Owl.
(06:47):
Six of one, half a dozen of the other. No
wonder I didn't see anything just because the weekend's dance
crew looked like the Court of Owls from Batman doesn't
make the entire event Owl theme. I'll take your word
for it. All I know is Tom Brady won a game.
That's all I know about. But but but I do.
(07:09):
I have watched the trailer that you're you were desperately
trying to set up as I was derailing you. And
that trailer, of course, is for the Falcon and the
Winner Soldier. Uh. It's a series that is coming to
Disney Plus. It was originally supposed to come out before
one Division, but but it got pushed back due to
covid or delays in the production, and now we're going
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to see it come to Disney Plus March nineteenth. We
got a trailer during the superb Owl and it was,
you know, a more expansive trailer than what we saw
with the teaser. And honestly, this one got me more
excited for the series than the teaser did. That's what
I was going to ask, because I know after we
watched the teaser, both you and I felt kind of
(07:54):
lukewarm on the series, both having expected to be super
excited about it. This one had a lot more humor,
it had a lot more excitement. We saw Baron Zumo
come in uh, and then Peggy Carter's Charter, Sharon Carter,
Sharon Sharon Carter come in and so we know a
lot more of the players. We got to see a
(08:14):
lot more of the back and forth. I'm much more
excited about this series now. And and you know the
fact that we get characters who the last time we
saw these characters were Captain America Civil War, so it was,
you know, quite some time ago in the Marvel Cinemaic
Universe timeline, because you've got to remember that five years
passed between h the Infinity War and Endgame, so quite
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a bit of time has passed. You get to I'm
assuming we're going to get to learn how these characters
have been navigating their worlds. Sharon Carter apparently has been
largely in hiding since Civil War because you know, she
kind of did some things that her nation would think
of as treasonous in helping Captain America during that time.
So I'm very very eager to see more about this.
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The humor, as you point out, look like, you know,
it looked more on form. One of the interesting things
I saw when I was reading up on the series
was that there appeared to be some sort of um
response to two fans who for some reason weren't big
fans of One Division. They felt like it was too
(09:19):
much of a departure, and this looks like it's more
of a return to form for m c U. To me,
that's why I liked One Division so much, because it
was new and different, whereas I don't mind the return
to form. But that to me is not a positive.
It's more like, I like this even though it looks
like more of the same. I agree. I I feel
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like wand Division was a nice like a moose bush
to refresh my palette from eating a lot of macaroni
and cheese. I love macaroni and cheese, but if I
eat too much of it, I get really tired of it.
So she was, so, Wan Division is just like this
nice light break. Well it's not really light, but this
nice break from it before we go back in. Uh,
(10:06):
something else that I hope will be a nice, fun
departure from the normal Marvel Mille. You is this upcoming
spinoff series that's being pitched, Jonathan, Why don't you talk
about this because because I know the guy, because you
know the guy. So we're talking about Stephen Ford, who
(10:28):
is an actor a writer and a director. He uh
is someone that I've met at a ce S a
few years ago. We have a mutual friend, and um,
he was hanging out with this mutual friend when I
came by to hang out with this mutual friend. So
by force of association we got to know each other.
Cool dude. And he tweeted about how he thought Jimmy Woo,
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the the FBI character who is in Aunt Man and
also in One Division, should get his own spinoff series
in something along the style of the X Files. So
some and who's investigating weird phenomena in the Marvel universe.
And I responded immediately, I was like, this to me,
sounds like a slam dunk because it reminds me a
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lot of Agent Coulson. How that character started as a
supporting character, fans really started to latch onto him, and
he ended up becoming the lynchpin for the Agents of
Shield series. And this could be kind of a successor
to Agents of Shield in that regard, following a a
normal human character navigating the strange, supernatural, and super powerful
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world of Marvel. And so I was totally on board.
And it turns out that apparently just by making that
tweet and being related to the the industry, he ended
up getting uh some interest from Marvel and it was
apparently invited to pitch his idea more formally, and so
this past weekend that's what he was working on. I
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don't know any more details. I haven't chatted with him
about it. In fact, I didn't even know that it
had gone that extra step until you Ariel had put
this story in our lineup, and you didn't even know
that I knew the guy. I didn't. But I'm also
excited because Randall Park, who plays Agent Wu, is totally
on board for this. So I really hope it happens.
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I realized some people might go, like we're saying not
more general Marvel feel. Some people might go, I've had
enough X Files feel shows. But I think it could
be really baller. Yeah. And I mean, like, there's no
telling how what kind of tone this would have. You
figure that there would be some sort of, you know,
(12:41):
kind of lighthearted nature to it because the character of
Wu has got that kind of of of feel about him,
like he always seems pretty upbeat and kind of funny
while also being a little geeky. Um, So I really
love his his portrayal of the character are both in
the ant Man films and in one division, he's I
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think he's one of the bright spots consistently and uh,
and so I would love to see a full series
with him as the starring role. I agree. And our
final story for this new segment is about a series
that I like with a central character that I like,
Mass Effect. Yeah, and Mass Effect is coming out with
(13:24):
a new legendary edition of all three of the game's
original games. Yeah, not the not the follow up that
got absolutely lambasted for all of the the bugs and
and glitches and story elements, but the original trilogy of
Mass Effect games. And apparently in this new remaster, some
(13:47):
of the scenes are going to be uh, you know,
not not as not as gratuitous in the the lingering
on certain attributes of the human body or sometimes alien body.
So I guess, uh, the show, the series is no
longer going to be as Effect. Yeah, they said, well,
they weren't super concerned with the camera angles. They also
(14:10):
figured that gratuitous butt shots didn't really match up with
audience and it didn't hurt the story. I need to
just the cammer angle just a little bit. Yeah, I
kind of okay, So I kind of want to see
the same treatment given to We were just talking about
the m c U some of Marvel films, because whenever
there was a Marvel movie featuring Black Widow, you could
(14:33):
guarantee that there was going to be at least a
half dozen shots that really focused on her rear end um,
especially the Joss Whedon ones. Uh. So I actually, as
it was happening, I was like, this is a little unnecessary.
I can see exactly what's going on here, and I
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don't think it's really needed. Uh And I'm not a
prouder or anything. I just thought like, this is kind
of this feels kind of creepy to me. It feels
a little sleazy. So the same sort of thing here.
I think it's this idea that that the way that
we depict characters and media is undergoing a massive change
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and over overdue change because of changing sensibilities, and this
is an opportunity to kind of address some things that. Again,
like you were saying, Ariel, it's not that it was
over the top. It wasn't like zooming in. It wasn't
like one of the one of those beach volleyball games
or anything. Like that, but it was probably not really
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needed the way it was framed up, it wasn't And
some of it is just like based around. For instance,
if you play a female shepherd and you decide to
wear a dress, is that character when you sit in
a chair, you sit in a chair the same way
that a male shepherd sits in the chair, which is
with your legs. Splite, open man, spreading, flattering, ma'am spreading.
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But you know it doesn't because unlike a movie where
they'd have to reshoot or pick a different camera angle
for this, they can't change the animations, but they can
change where the visuals focus. Just moving it up a
little bit makes it so much more flattering. I look
forward to it this game. The remastering looks beautiful. I
don't really need to play all three games again, but
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I'm really really tempted by this. So yes, Well, that's
our our final story for this this headline section, although
we are going to mention before we go to break
because this will come back to play when we do
our mash up at the end of the episode. One
other quick item is that Cinderella, the Rogers and Hammerstein
version the musical that Brandy did many years ago with
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Whitney Houston as well is coming to Disney. Plus, we
thought it was important we mentioned it because she's going
to show up again in our mesh up. Yes, but
first we're gonna take a quick break. Aerial, Yes, Jonathan,
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So you know our next episode comes out after Valentine's
Day right now, it's before it comes out before. No. No,
our next episode, our next episode comes out after Valentine's
not the one we're not, the one we're recording right now, ok.
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I mean the one, the one that we'll sit down
and record next Monday, comes out after Valentine's Day, which
means that we are doing our Valentine's Day episode a
few days early. You know that that's on Sunday. We're
coming out on Wednesday. But we thought that some a
fun discussion, potentially fun discussion, would be to go over
five crushes that we have had on fictional characters. Originally,
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Aerial had pitched the idea of animated characters. But I'm
not a weirdo, so I've never That's that's that came
out wrong. I have never, as far as I know,
I've never had a crush on an enemy. Maybe Jessica Rabbit.
But let's be honest, I was going through a special
time in my life when who Fred Roger Rabbit came out,
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So I'm not going to count that one. So we're
gonna go with fictional crushes, which may or may not
be animated minor all live action. Um, who would you
like to go first? Do you want me to go
first or do you want to go first? I'll go first,
tell you what. I'll go first for this and you
go first for the mashup when we get to it. Okay, okay,
But first I want to say, having a crush on
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a cartoon character is not necessarily creepy. You know, I
know so many of my guy friends said that when
they were young they had a crush on Gadget from
Rescue Rangers or Penny from Inspector Gadget. It was Nydrey Keenny.
Come on, they were children, they were children watching the
show who had a little child crush this other child
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that you're gonna tell me it was gonna be that
that rabbit from Space Jam? Um? No, but that too, Lola. Yeah, okay,
I've never I've never seen Space Jam. So alright, so
my first two crushes, I'll do my first one, but
my first to so you know, I've ordered these sort
of chronologically when I encountered them, but the first two
I bot I I saw when I was a little kid,
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but the I went ahead and order them chronologically as
to when the properties came out. So my first crush
is mary Anne Summers from Gilligan's Island. Of course, yeah,
she's the only Summers, So Buffy, sorry about that, you
don't make the list. Mary Anne Summers makes the list
as she was Girl next Door, a girl from Kansas
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who wins the contest. That's why she's on that three
hour tour on the Minnow, which of course ends up
being uh washed up on a shore of a uncharted
desert isle and uh. And she was sort of the
the grounded, sensible character in the show. She was the
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more sensible foil to Ginger the movie star, and had
that had that farm girl girl next door kind of
appearance to her that as a kid I just thought
was I thought she was the most beautiful woman I
had ever seen, and I had a massive crush on
her as a child. She she is gorgeous and I
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loved her character the best on Gilligan's Island myself. I
didn't have a crush on her, but I loved her
because she didn't have ulterior motives. She was very genuine
in her actions. So great choice. Okay, your person, I'm
judging you, but great choice. I'll be judging you going
back and forth. Um, okay, So I'm going to start
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with the three that I'm certain of, because there's a
whole bunch that I like. I have this long list.
My crushes changed so much throughout my childhood and young
adult years, and I guess even now I crush on characters.
So um, my first one is going to be Rosencrantz
from Rosencrantz and Guildenstern Are Dead. The one with Tim
Roth and Gary Oldman because he was just adorable and
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sweet and creative and always like experimenting, and he was
a cuteie. I've had have such a crush on that
character that I still think Gary Oldman is cute to
this day because he played the character. I was about
to ask you which of the two that was, because,
like like the the movie, it's hard to tell them apart.
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But in the film that's a that's an ongoing gag too.
That's true, and it's It's even interesting because I was
in Hamlet and some of the lines that Guildenstern and
Rosenkrantz have in Rosencrantz and Guildenstern Are Dead are transposed
from who says it in Hamlet as well. So uh,
basically I had to go look up online and go
which one was Gary Oldman again, because that's the one
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I had a crush on. The other one was a
little bit too snippy. Um nothing against Tim Roth for
his acting abilities, but that character was less kind and innocent,
and so yeah, Rantz was the He's My favorite of
the two is the is Guildenstern, although my favorite character
in that in that play is the leading player who
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Richard dreyf has played him in the movie. Um, fantastic,
fantastic choice. All Right, so you fun fact I was
Rosen Cranston Hamlet. Fun fact Rosenkranston Gillenstern are Dead as
one of the only plays I ever dropped out of. Okay,
so my next crush crushed Number two, which I had
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concurrently with Mary Anne Summers, was wonder Woman as played
by Linda Carter. I don't know that I need to
explain why she was amazing. She kicked, but she was
competent and intelligent and never back down from any of
the bad guys. And she was gorgeous as well, so
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like all of those things together. Plus she could change
her outfit just about twirling in place. You know, I
tried that as a young girl, was not as successful
as Wonder Woman was. Does your crush extend to Wonder
Woman beyond Linda Carter? No, it's specifically the Linda Carter
version of Wonder Woman? Gotcha? Gotcha. I really like Wonder
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Woman because she is such a competent warrior. She's she's
she's very like, go get them, So I really like
she can also be very kind. But I like that
she is sometimes interpreted as just sorry for the language,
a badass. I mean, I said as effect earlier. I
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think you're okay, who's your number two? Fair enough? Um? Okay,
so I'm gonna say doctor Who. I'm gonna say it's
the for Eccleston one, yes, yes, uh. And I think
that's because okay, so for me, doctor Who should not
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the doctor should not be a romantic character. Whenever they
uh bring in a romantic plotline, I always get really
bored with it. I like, I like that character to
be kind of outside of it. That being said, while
tom Baker was my first Doctor, I remember watching Eccleston
was the first of the new series, and just I
think that excitement of here's this character that I love
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that I want to go, like, I want to go
on these wonderful adventures with him. It looks like so
much fun came back in. Eccleston just had this great
balance of quirky with solemnness that just was really brilliant.
I like the moment that he reached out and grabbed
Rose's hand in the first episode and and said come
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with me, Like that was just like, ah, yes, I
am into this, and um yeah, I loved him. You know,
Christopher Egilson ain't bad looking, but it was just he's
he's got this really great charm about him, and it's
just a story I already loved. Kind of along those
lines Peter Pan, although Peter Pan is a much meaner
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spirited character, but that whole idea is like, yes, let's
go away and adventure is very appealing to me. I
was not. I was not on board with Doctor like
I you know me, I tried to watch Dr Who
and I was not getting into it until there was
an episode where the doctor figures out a solution where
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he realizes he can save everybody and he actually, you know,
gets excited and says, everybody lives. And it was that
moment where I actually got emotionally invested in the character
because it was the first time that I saw the
doctor seemed to actually care about people and not just
we're going on a crazy adventure. But he you learned,
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he genuinely cares for people. It's just that he's kind
of built up defenses around that and hasn't let on
to that. But when at that moment when he realizes
he can save everyone, all of that comes crashing down,
and I was like, oh, then that is one of
my favorite episodes. You know, the laws of time travel
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are a cruel cruel mistress, so I could only imagine
it would take a toll on an individual. All right,
My number three Dana Scully from The X Files. Yeah,
so here's the thing about Scully that I loved. She
well multiple things, capable, incredibly intelligent, She knew, uh like
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the procedures. She was of a very critical thinking kind
of nature, very skeptical to me, The most frustrating thing
about X Files is that Dana Scully was consistently giving
the rite in for Nation the right answers, the right procedure,
and was consistently wrong. And that's what drove me nuts,
is because she was doing everything a critical thinker should do.
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It's just that she happened to inhabit a universe where
the supernatural was real, and the only thing they got
frustrating was that season after season you started to say, Okay,
I get that she's a critical thinker by nature. However,
she also has been through multiple years of crazy stuff
going on around her and she still is of the
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mind to say, well, that's just not possible. I'm like,
come on, lady, You've seen people climb up walls and
control stuff with their minds. That probably get a little frustrating,
but the way that character was presented was really appealing
to me. Nice. Nice. I don't have much to say
on that. I didn't watch X Files, but I think that, yeah,
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that's a great choice. Okay, you're number three. Okay, my
number three is Jack Kelly from newss. Is he the
one who's going to Santa Fe. He's the one going
to Santa Fe. He's a rogue with a heart of gold,
and he can sing and dance like it doesn't. It
can be Christian Bale, it can be any of the
Broadway actors. It is entirely character based, not at all
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actor based. I just I wanted to live in the
news He's world. It's not a great world to live in.
But I know when Mr Hurst is around, you're not
going to have a good time. That is true. Okay
number four, Okay, yeah, I'm moving right along. Willow Rosenberg
from Buffy the Vampire Slayer. Willow was the one I
had the crush on, not Buffy. I thought Willow was adorable.
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She was smart, she was vulnerable, She grew as a character,
became more capable, more self confident. I didn't always agree
with some of the choices that the writer's made in
developing her character. I felt that some of them were inconsistent,
or they weren't really you couldn't really support some of
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the choices based on the the earlier stuff from that character.
That being said, I really like Dallison Hannigan's portrayal of
the character. I loved her sort of awkward nerdiness um
and I loved her sense of humor, and she I
had a huge crush on that character, clearly not a
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crush on the actress. She has played other characters that
I found absolutely abhorrent, so so it's literally that character.
So at least I recognized the difference, right, because there
are a lot of actors who have stories about fans
who have crushes on a character they played, and they
just project that that character is the same as the actor. Um,
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you're number four, okay, My number four is Dmitri from
Anastasia slash Kale Tucker from Titan A. Is that the
bat No, it's the romantic interest and the lead character, respectively. Oh.
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I had dore bar talk, but I did not have
a crush on him. I've wanted to put him in
my pocket and carry him around for comedic relief, but
I didn't have a crush on him. But the reason
why those two are slashed together is because at the
time those two came out, I remember me and my
friends would always go, it's the same character, just with
different colored hair. They're both rogue ish, they both have
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have a snarky sense of humor, and they look kind
of similar. Looking back now, I can tell that they're
different character types, largely except for in profile, but yeah,
just more rogues. Okay, so you got a type, is
what I'm learning. Um My fifth and final is and
this is a throwback to our earlier discussion about the
m c U Peggy Carter, uh, Peggy Carter from Captain
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America slash Agent Carter, because once again we have an
incredibly intelligent, incredibly capable woman evident in her abilities. Uh.
She she is aware of people's perceptions of her and
can often use that to her own advantage. So while
she is constantly and consistently faced with unfair situations, she
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also knows how to maneuver within those to get to
her goals, even though it's unfair that she should have
to maneuver through them. Um. I really admired the character
and I also I mean, you know, again, absolutely gorgeous character,
like those hairstyles and everything that just that I'm a
sucker for him. So and that red hat, oh, that
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red fedora that was such so pretty. I'm not a
fashion guy typically or a costume guy that much, but
but they really picked great looks for the character, and um, yeah,
it's just a fantastic realization of that character. On screen. Yeah,
I mean I have a crush on her outfits um,
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and the red hat reminds me of Carmen san Diego
a lot um. Alright, my fifth crush. I really struggled
with this one because I didn't know if I wanted
to go new or old, because new would be lowkey.
But I think Burt from Mary Poppins beats out Loki
any Day too? Are so similar? Are they? Well? I
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mean they've both been reality. They do, but one does
so out of kindness and goodness and the other one
does so out of being a little meani head. Burnes
is the goodness kindness. Lokis the meani head one. I
know Loki as are deeping. I really like that character.
But no, Burt, Burt from Mary Poppins. He's so sweet,
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he's so fun. And Dick van Dyke when he was
young was quite the cutie. So terrible accent, terrible accent,
terrible accent. But but if if Loki sings a song
about Chimney sweeps in the new series, I will be
on board for that too. M hmm, that would be good. Well,
we've got our fictional crushes done. If you guys have
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your own fictional crushes you want to send, don't be creepy.
You can do so in our email which is l
n C at I heart media dot com. When we
come back from the break, we will be mashing up
a beloved fairy tale character with a musical that is
my no joke, my favorite musical of all time. But hey,
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I will not be singing this time, so that's something.
But that's after this break. Okay, So we're back, and um,
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we have chosen to mash up together Cinderella the fairy
Tale with a Little Shop of Horrors, which was originally
a Roger Corman produced low budget horror comedy that was
essentially made on a bet where there was a bet
place that can you make a film with this low
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of a budget? Uh, which Roger Corman did manage to do.
He produced that film, mostly notable for Jack Nicholson having
a really odd cameo. If you've seen the musical, he
plays the same character that Bill Murray plays in the
the film musical. And then Ashman and Mancoln, the same
team behind Little Mermaid and Beauty and the Beast for Disney,
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wrote a musical version that was that took the film
and adapted it for the stage, which then, of course
got adapted into a film directed by Frank oz Uh.
They changed the ending because they the original ending is
a downer, so they changed it to be more of
a happy ending. Um, and that's the story behind Little
Shop of Hers. I don't think we really need to
explain the origin of Cinderella pretty much a universal Yeah,
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I will agree. Little Shop of hors is one of
my favorite musicals. It's also a great love story, which
is why I picked it for this mash up. Yeah,
less so in the version that I did. But okay, okay, Well,
since I agreed to go first on this, this is
Center Shop of Horrors, a twisted tale of plants and romance.
In a small village in the region of York, there
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lived a poor young man named Seymour Krell Bornella Lord.
After his parents died, he was stuck living with his
step uncle mush Nick Krell Boornella, and his brother's stepbrothers
or In Arthur. His uncle and stepbrothers treated him like
dirt and called him a slob. They forced him to
live and maintain their family flower shops, sweeping the floor
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and delivering orders. The same flower shop also happened to
be a favorite place for the royal family to purchase
their flowers for any royal event. One day, the Princess
of the Kingdom, Her Royal Highness Christina Ruperta Gwendoline Goslin,
Carla Alexandra Francis, Regina Ansela Audrey, Yes Audrey Audrey, Geraldine Jane,
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was having a ball. She stopped by the flower shop
to pick just the right foliage for the event herself.
She had never been to the flower shop before, but
this was the first ball that was all hers. When
she and Seymour locked eyes, it was instant chemistry. She
ordered the flowers from Seymour and gave him an invitation
to stay for the party to help her care for
the flowers during the Galah. Of of course, however, Or
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and Author, who also took to the princess, insisted on
helping deliver the flowers themselves, despite the fact that they
had never actually done so before. No matter, Seymour would
get to see the princess again, and that's all that
mattered to him. Her face was as exquisite as a rose,
she was as dainty as a daisy, and her gait
was as graceful as a bird. However, when the day
of the flower delivery and the ball came, the brothers
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trashed the flower shop so that Seymour would have to
stay in clean up. They tossed him a broom and
left cackling. Seymour was distraught, but started cleaning. When he
opened the door to sweep all the dirt from the
broken pots into the backyard. At the shop, he noticed
three songbirds circling and tripping loudly and frantically near a tree.
When he went to look at their what there to
do was all about? He saw nothing. He was about
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to go back and back into the shop and opened
his own little corner of the store when something that
his toe. He looked down and there was a knee
high plant. He wasn't sure how he missed it, but
that wasn't the oddest thing. The oddest thing was that
the plant opened up his mouth and started talking. That's right, boy,
it said, I'm your fairy godflower, your friend, your genie.
You want to get it, then listen to me. He
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unfurled a plan for Seymour to bring the flower plant,
very godflower thing to the ball, leaving it in the courtyard.
Then he would go into the ball, Seymour would avoiding
the princess and tell his brothers that they had left
a plant back at the shop, and without it, the
Princess's order would be incomplete, and then the plant would
take care of the rest. It seemed impossible, but so
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did a talking plant, And so Seymour daft and dewey
eyed dope that he was put on a fresh, clean apron,
his best one and the plant, and headed nervously to
the gala. Uh. It was a lovely night at the ball,
I mean, really, a finer night I know you'd never see.
He placed the plant in the courtyard by the steps
of the palace and went to follow the fairy godflowers plans.
When Seymour told the brothers of their mistake, they were mad,
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and they dragged him out to the courtyard with them.
How could they have missed something, and how could he
have the gall to call him out on it. However,
as they were doing so, the princess looked in that direction, and,
thinking she saw a glimpse of Seymour, followed shortly behind,
dodging her way through the guests. When the brothers and
Seymour got to the courtyard, the plant got fairy godflower
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opened up and ate the brothers. Seymour was so frightened
that he grabbed the plant and ran away, dropping the
plot pot at the plant was in as he did. Uh.
He went to retrieve it, but he saw the princess
coming out of the castle and he didn't want to
be caught with murder charges of his brothers, so he
left and slipped away before she could see him. When
the princess reached the courtyard, there were no brothers and
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no Seymour, only one and flower pot. When Seymour got
back to the shop, he threw the flower into the
yard and locked the door behind him. Distraught, the next day,
the princess ventured to the village to return the pot
to the flower shop to see if it was his,
and in hopes of seeing Seymour again. She saw the
fairy godflower laying in the yard of the shop and
placed it in the pot. It fit perfectly, and she
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knew that it was Seymour. She glanced at the ball
just then, however, the plant reared up to eat the princess. Thankfully,
Seymour was on his way out of the shop just
at that moment to destroy the plant. And caught him
trying to eat the princess. Knowing that a fight would
add and badly for everyone, Seymour made a deal with
the plant. He would let the plant take over the
shop and the village if the plant would let Seymour
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escape with the princess. The princess was so in love
with Seymour that she agreed, and together they abandoned the
village to the mean green mother and fled to somewhere
that's green to live happily ever after. Wow, my story
is a little darker than yours, so prepare yourself. Um. Also,
I have a pun in mine that I am so
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proud of that I just I'm gonna take a moment
to bask in how great the pun is and how
thankful I am that you didn't steal it. So here
we go. Okay, We open on a cottage on skid row.
The inhabitants of said cottage are Lady mush Nick, her
daughter's Grazella and Anastasia, and her stepdaughter sinder Krellborne, so
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called because she must make her bed in the cinders
of the fireplace, which is very hot and Bernie. Lady
Mushnick barely tolerates her stepdaughter, forcing her to do tons
of chores and to serve as the physical laborer for
the family's meager business, a pumpkin shop. Sindor Krellborne has
no real education, no prospects, and no ambition, because when
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you live on skid Row, ain't no such thing. She
sings out her feelings with a tune in my own
little corner of skid Row Downtown. Her stepsisters tell her
to shut up. Cinder crew Born hears that the local
palace is to throw a magnificent ball in order for
the resident prince to meet all suitable well suitors. She
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dreams of getting to see the palace, to wear a
magnificent gown, and to perhaps even catch sight of the
Prince himself. But of course she's a lowly orphan working
in a pumpkin shop on skid Row. However, she does
have one thing going for her. A few weeks earlier,
she had been at the village market looking at pumpkin
plant cuttings to try and help create stronger pumpkin plants
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for the shop. Back home, when there was a total
liclipse of the sun, which we hear about in a
song called Bippity Boppity Dadoo. After a weird flash of
light and a sound as if something from another world.
There's a big golden pumpkin plant sitting where Sinder Crewbourne
was sure nothing had been before. But the old man
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running the shops sold it to her anyway for a
dollar ninety five, and she took it back home. She
called it the gust gust Us in honor of Gus
Gus the bouse. The pumpkin was like no other, with
a mouth and teeth and stuff very odd. Sindor Crelbourne
takes the pumpkin plant out and puts it on display,
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and it quickly starts to get the attention of the neighborhood.
On the one hand, Lady Mushnik is thrilled she suddenly
has customers and the money starts to enter the family coffers.
On the other hand, she supremely irritated that Sindor Crelbourne
is getting more attention than her own daughters, and she
consistently finds excuses to push Sindor Crelbourne into the background.
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And the ball is getting closer. Sindor creelbourne step sisters
both plan on going, but Sindor Crelbourne still has no
plans of her own, and then one night after the
shop closes and sinder Crelbourne is crying in the cinders
because her stepsisters have been cruel and she has no
hope of going to the ball Gus Gus Gus, the
pumpkin actually speaks to Sindor Crelbourne. It asks her to
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feed it, and Sindor crell Born doesn't know what to do,
but then the plant launches into a song called Impossible
about a talking plant. In the middle of the song
is a big dance number with the mice, but gust
Gus loses his balance and as he falls, Gus gust
Gus manages to chomped down on his namesake. Sindor Crelbourne
is at first horrified, but then the plant grows much
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bigger before her eyes and promises her that if she
feeds it, it will make her dreams come true. It's
her fairy gord mother, and it fulfills her. What follows
is a montage of sinder Crelbourne feeding her animal friends
no mice and birds and stuff to the hungry pumpkin,
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which chomps down in those little suckers like their hallopennial poppers.
At t g I f Soon the pumpkin plant is
the size of a carriage, and it tries to convince
Sindor Crelbourne to feed it larger critters, something Sindor Crelbourne resists,
and the night before the ball, Cinder Crelbourne is caught
out by her two step sisters, who find her arguing
with gust Gus Gus. They crow over their discovery and
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then complain that Sinder Crewlborne gets all the luck by
finding a magic plant, and they sing the step sister's lament,
and at the peak of their song, Gus gus Gus
eats them both, leaving only their feet behind. Sindor Crelborne
is horrified and relieved at the same time, and the
toughest choice she now has to make is does she
take Drasilla's dress or Anastasia's dress. Gust Gus Gus tells
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her to go with Grazella's outfit, but Anastasia's shoes, which
are still on her dismembered feet. Sindor Crolborne goes to
the ball and meets the Prince. They share a dance,
but just then she spotted by Lady Mushnik, who is
looking for her own daughters, who are supposed to be
at the ball. Mushnik tries to confront Sindor Crelborne at midnight,
who then turns tail and runs home, which happens to
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be supper time for gust gust Gus. Another song. The
Prince follows behind Sinder Crowlborne gets home with Mushnik right
there with her. She confronts Sindr Cralbo, but then sees
how big gust gust Gus has grown and is amazed.
She tells Cindr Crelbourne that she'll release her from her
duties if Sindor Crelborne just explains how to take care
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of the plant. Cinder Crelbourne, seeing no other option, lures
mush It closer to gus gus Gus, who then promptly
eats Cinder crelborne stepmother, just as the Prince comes in.
The Prince sees gust gus Gus slurp down Mushnik's leg
and screams, at which point gus gus Gus grabs the
Prince and eats him too. Charming, says gus gust Gus.
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Sindr Crelbourne, horrified, grabs a nearby axe and leaps into
the pumpkins, gaping, maw helping hoping to rescue the prince,
and we fade to black as we hear the last
song that Don't Feed the plants Waltz the end. Huh.
I was about to stay with the original Indigo Little
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Shop I can tell, I can tell, and and kind
of the more original Cinderella story too. Yeah, feet uh
horrible nous. I was gonna say, that's closer than we've
gotten on almost any other mashups so far, though. Yeah,
I decided to also have a few Rodgers and Hammerstein
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nods in mind, just as you did yours. I picked
up on those, so that was fun because of course,
you know, we also had nods to the Disney version
of Cinderella, so that was fun. But yeah, you can
you can understand why I won't be writing any treatments
for Disney's fairy Tale division anytime soon, but you might
have a future with Marvel. But dear listeners, if you
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and Cinderella should be mashed up, or if you want
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