November 11, 2022 • 52 mins
We're getting a prequel series to Stephen King's "IT." Plus a new series set in the universe of "The Witcher." And we throw hands at "A Christmas Carol." Plus some more 30-seconds-or-less stories, and a mashup!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
M Hey, everybody, Welcome to the Large and Your Drunklelider podcast,
the podcast that's all about the kiki things happening in
the world around us and how very excited we are
about them. I'm Ario casting and with me as always
as a super stupendous Jonathan Strict. I'm super thanks for asking.
(00:24):
You're welcome. So once again we have come together to
gather a lot of the geeky news of the week
and talk about it. And once again, our our news
items got way longer than what we had anticipated. So
we thought, since the last time was such a big hit,
I'm assuming, I mean, I haven't heard anyone complain about it,
(00:48):
that we would do another thirty seconds or less segment
where we attempt to describe a geeky news story within
thirty seconds or or less. Hopefully the actual description of
the news story will take less time than me introducing
this segment. I like your shat and er esque like
(01:11):
uh int intro there. Yeah, I've had some positively pregnant
pauses in that in that phrase. All right, So we
have divided up these stories between the two of us,
although now I look at it, I'm like, huh, we
could have done this so that they would alternate back
and forth, but didn't. It's it's it's a scramble. It'll
(01:33):
be fun. Yeah, So I've got the first one. I
am going to start the clock now. So our first
story is that Sean Levy is developing a Star Wars film.
Sean Levy is known as the director of Deadpool. He's
working on Deadpool three right now, and so there is
(01:54):
an assumption that any Star Wars film he is working
on is probably going to becoming probably i'd say five
at the earliest, probably later than that. So we don't
really have any details on it, but it's an interesting choice.
And I'm done. Great, Okay, what's the next one? Oh? Shoot,
I had two in a row, all right, next one
(02:16):
and I'm gonna start now, Okay. We also have the
barest of details about an upcoming Star Wars series called
The Acolyte, which, as far as we know, is some
sort of murder mystery ish things set during the era
of the High Republic. We know that Amandela Stenberg and
(02:37):
Lee Jung Jai are in it, as well as Carrie
and Moss who was in the Matrix, and lots of
other folks and I'm running out of time. But that's
about all we know except this is going to be
a series on Disney Plus and done. Oh you're technically
one second late, Jonathan, Okay, my turn, well not on mine.
On mine, I had the little timer on. It's at
twenty nine seconds point five eight. All right, well then
(03:00):
I'll trust your timer, okay and go. We have more
Star Wars news, which is that shoot studio Giebli. And
we didn't know the Start Wars news until today. Probably
um Studio Ghiblie posted something really cryptic on Twitter that
was the lucasfilm logo and then their student Studio Giblie
photo our logo, and everybody was like, oh, they're gonna
do some sort of mashup and we don't know anything
(03:21):
about it what they're doing. But today they tweeted something
that was just a little like gro Goo or Yoda
mini figure on a table with um I thank Miazaki
maybe behind it anyhow, U so that is a mashup.
We might have Did I go over thirty seconds? You
were three point three point four seven seconds over? Dang it? Ah?
(03:43):
Well uh not according to my Oh dang already said
I wasn't using my timer. Okay, the next one, I
will make it up in this one. Okay. So we
have a little bit of news about the Umbrella Academy,
and really that's just that season four has wrapped, I think.
And also oh nope, it's underway. And also the title
(04:07):
of the first episode is the inmbearable Tragedy of getting
what you Want done. Also it's the final season. It
is the final season. Surely that was under thirty second,
Yeah it was. It was where you were right around
eighteen seconds when I jumped in. Um. Yeah, so that's
the In fact, the music was probably playing out even
as I started saying that sentence, because I don't plan
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on cutting it short. It will just play until until
it gets through, and then it'll play again because it's
fun to put the music behind this segment, but it's
also a little time consuming. All right, last one for
our thirty seconds and less and I it's my turn,
(04:50):
so I'm gonna hit it now. Okay. Our last story
is that James Gunn and Peter Saffron, who are the
co ce owes of d C Universe for like all
the all the non comic books stuff appeared with David
Zaslov like a town hall meeting and said that they
are working together on an eight to ten year plan
(05:12):
for DC across movies, t D, animation, and potentially video games,
so unifying vision, long term plan. Not a big surprise,
but pretty cool and done. I'm actually pretty surprised, not surprised,
delighted about that. James Gunn says, if Zaslov wasn't um
excited about it, he wouldn't be doing this. So hopefully
that's good news. Uh Okay, I know we're done with
(05:36):
that news story, but having worked for David Zaslov, I'm
gonna say James Gunn was being very very kind in
saying that David Zaslov clearly has a deep appreciation for
this i P and that that's why this is going forward.
I would argue David Zaslov sees the d C i
P as being profitable just like the Harry Potter i P.
(05:59):
And that's why he wants it, because he's trying to
get the company out of a very deep debt pit.
I get that, and I don't want to disqualify any
of your past experiences. In my like little brain, I'd
hope there would be at least a little bit of
h he also enjoys d C, even if it doesn't
actually factor in. Um, I hope, I hope. So I
(06:21):
would just not be surprised to learn that that is
fair enough. We'll move on, Okay, Okay, yeah, no, it's
it's a good valid point you have having worked for
him before. All right, So we are first actual news story, UM,
which I don't know if we're going to talk much
over thirty seconds about it except for now I probably
already have, is that we have a trailer for z Utopia. Plus.
(06:45):
I'm especially delighted by this because last week I thought
we had a trailer first Utopia. Plus, I could have
sworn that Disney had released something, and then when we
went to look for the link, it wasn't there. Yeah,
and it may very well be that Disney prematurely posted
the trailer, because there were there were dozens of YouTube
channels out there that had footage from this trailer that
(07:09):
we have watched for this episode. They had the footage,
so clearly something got released, and so there were lots
of fan made trailers. And I used that phrase loosely. Uh,
there are a lot of YouTube channels out there that
attempt to cash in on popular I p by just
doing like a hatchet job edit. And that was the
(07:32):
case of the Utopia stuff we saw. There was one
that had the worst voice over I've ever heard to
attached to a trailer, to the point where I was like,
how did Disney even release this? And the answer was
they didn't. But now whatever happened originally, whether the trailer
was accidentally published early and then pulled, we have it
and it looks cute. It's a so the series. Each
(07:53):
series episode in the series looks like it's a focusing
on a different character slash scenario, and the one I'm
really looking forward to, of course, is the one with
the slots. Yeah. Yeah, I honestly did not, and maybe
they announced it and I just missed it, But I
did not expect them to go the anthology route with this.
Yeah no, I didn't either. That was I just thought
(08:15):
it was going to be a episodic series. Yeah. Yeah,
I'm I'm really excited about the Godfather of the bride
um because that was one of my favorite pop culture
references in c Utopia. Did you enjoy the movie? I did? I? Well,
I go back and forth because some of the underlying
messages in that film I struggle with It's kind of
(08:39):
similar to how I feel about wreck ittt Ralph in that. Uh.
These are movies where if I think critically about about
the story, I come up with things where I'm like,
I assumed this isn't what they intended, but this is
how I'm inferring the meaning behind this particular story, and
(09:01):
I have a deep disagreement with the point of view.
That being said, I thought the performances were great. I
thought the animation was great. I was charmed by it
um so, and I actually kind of like the Shakira
song at the end, so I was is it. Yes, Yeah,
(09:22):
there's a there are a bunch of like Disney um
during the pandemic. There are a bunch of like Disney
Zoomba or hit workouts that popped up on YouTube for free.
They're still there if you want to try them out
in your house. Uh. And that Shakira song was very
popular among them. So yeah, it's a It's a good
fun one to pop along to. Our next story is
(09:43):
the rumor is that Doctor Who under Disney Plus, Because
now we know that Disney Plus is going to be
streaming Doctor Who is going to end up getting a
bit of a budget boost. This was based off an
article in The Merry Sue, And honestly, I don't know
how accurate that that that suggestion is, that that guess
(10:05):
is right, because I don't know how much the streaming
side of things is going to play into the broadcast
side of things. Because the assumption that the Mary Sue
article makes is that because Disney Plus tends to have
these higher production value series, that we're going to see
a triple the budget boost for Dr Who. And then
(10:31):
there's the question of whether or not that's a good thing,
because Doctor Who, as an English production, has a very
long history of working doing a lot with the smallest
of budgets. So that's true, they're like compared to the
tens of millions of dollars at something like Rings of
(10:52):
Power cost which per episode, which the Mary Sue kind
of pends. But I'm at three episodes in and I'm
kind of enjoying it, honestly. You know, Doctor Who is
only like one to three million pounds per episode. Now,
I do feel like I've heard stories and obviously I
can't corroborate them that, like the actors are a little
bit run ragged because they have to run over all
over these like practical sets because you know, low budgets
(11:15):
and whatever. I feel like in the past few years,
doctor who has upped their budgets, um, their effects have
gotten better. It's gotten a little bit away from that
BBC direct feel, which like my my husband doesn't actually
like watching BBC shows because there's something about the video
or sound quality that just he's always like, that is
a BBC show and he can't get past it. Well, yeah,
(11:39):
especially like if you're looking at stuff from the seventies
and eighties, it has an extremely cheap quality to it,
and like, you know, anything that was sci fi related,
and the Brits love sci fi, Like there were a
lot of British sci fi shows. But if you look
at any British sci fi show that has any sort
of alien that isn't just a slightly altered human, they
(12:00):
all look like giant rubber suits. But I know that, Like, Okay,
So for even for shows that are now kind of
under Disney's umbrella that are not necessarily on Disney Plus itself,
so like X type shows or Hulu shows for instance,
Always Sunny in Philadelphia also had Disney poor and money
in the budget where they needed it to make it quality. Uh.
(12:22):
They put a monkey into an episode of the latest
season I've Always Sunny in Philadelphia and um because people
don't want to use monkey actors anymore. It was C
g I and Disney paid for that so that it
would be like, I couldn't tell it was a really
good C g I monkey. So if they can do
that for Always Sunny in Philadelphia, surely they can do
that for Disney or for dry What were you going
(12:43):
to say, So, are you sure it was a monkey
or was it just Charlie Day? Oh, it was certainly
a monkey, because sometimes the monkey and Charlie Day would
be on the screen at the same time. Uh. I
don't think he can split himself into two and they
would be like it wasn't a mirror either. Did that
splits green thing? You know, like parent trap style? Uh No,
I'm just teasing. Obviously. Well we'll we'll see if in
(13:07):
fact we do get more money poured into Doctor Who
and whether or not that will change things. I can't
see it changing the tone of the show, especially with
Russell T. Davies coming back. And I know there's some
people who worry because any change to something that's beloved
is often viewed with anxiety, that kind of anticipation. That's true,
(13:34):
but I mean like things like the foundation of the show,
Like that's different than changing. Oh, this doctor has a
slightly different level of quirkiness to him or her or them. Um,
So you know, well, we'll have to we'll have to see.
I'll have to see. Maybe you'll watch it if it's
on Disney. Plus, I'm looking forward to seeing what they do. Also,
(13:55):
something that I am looking forward to m I was
an and I wasn't and now I am again, which
is the gameral Germo del Toro Pinocchio. Um. When we
first heard about it, I was so excited because he
kind of used Pinocchio as like a Frankenstein type story.
And then the first trailer came out and it looked cute,
(14:16):
and that was about it. We'll see. I remember seeing
the teaser and thinking it looked a little creepy to me,
which didn't really surprise me too much because Yeamo del
Toro is also known for being a big horror fan.
But I was like, why are you making a horror
movie version of Pinocchio? But now we've got a longer
form trailer and it's left me thinking either one I'm
(14:40):
misremembering the teaser, or whoever cut the teaser together did
so in a way that that gave me the wrong
impression of what this film is going to be, because
the new full trailer really makes it look like a
sweet adaptation of Pinocchio. Oh that's so interesting, because when
I watched the teaser or the first trailer, I don't
(15:02):
know which way it was, I was like, okay, this,
I expected something that was Pinocchio but a little scary.
And if you think I think there are some scary
aspects behind the Pinocchio story, there there are some scary
through lines in it. I thought it was gonna be
much scarier than it looked, and this new trailer makes
it look a little bit more of like that creepy
um not Pans Labyrinthe isn't horror because Pan's Labyrinthe is
(15:24):
scary and hard, but kind of just that level of
like step away from reality, which is a weird thing
to say about, like a c G I clamation whatnot story,
But yeah, it looks a little bit more um Pan's
Labyrinthe mirror mask to me now, unless of just like,
oh sweet story, So it's interesting that you feel off
(15:45):
with it. Yeah, yeah, it is interesting we have these
kind of opposite takes on this. Uh. I also want
to say that I don't know about you, arial but
to me, this looks about a billion times more appealing
than the recent Disney Live action adaptation of their Pinocchio.
Oh yes, yes, um you know what. I have said
(16:06):
that we need another Pinocchio story. No, because we get
one like every three years. But I will probably watch
this and I will probably enjoy it. Now. See, if
Giammo del Toro had cast Benicio del Toro as Pinocchio,
you would you would have to pry me away from
the movie theater because I would just be there to
see every showing, just just because why is someone so
(16:28):
old playing Pinocchio? It's because he'll flip you. He'll flip
you for real. It's a usual Suspects reference. I get,
you know, I guess. I guess he could play Geppetto.
He'd be better as a Geppetto. He's not quite old enough,
but you can make him as a as the cricket, like,
but then the cricket would steal the show. Jimney isn't
(16:49):
supposed to steal the show. I'm okay, all right, Well
you know what, maybe that's it. Maybe the next version
of Pinocchio is going to follow the point the view
of a totally different character, and we'll get a story
completely from Jiminy Crickets perspective, from starting from the point
where he's like resultful of being given the burden of
(17:11):
having to be the conscience of this wooden boy like
in the original story, he gets Pinocchio kills him and
then feels bad about Well, I am So your final
question for you, Ariel, are you planning on will you
watch this? Will you watch this version of Pinocchio? Yeah,
I'm I'm gonna watch it. It's gonna happen. I might
(17:31):
even have like my nieces, my niece and nephews over
to watch it with me. What about you, I probably
ain't gonna watch it. It's it's definitely it definitely, like
I said, caught my attention way more than the live
action Disney version of the story. Uh. Something else that
we're curious about and that Ariel probably isn't going to
(17:52):
watch because she lacks the streaming service for it is Spirited,
which we we talked about last week, but they keep
putting out more promotional material for this twisted take on
a Christmas Carol, and um, why don't you talk about Ariel? Yeah,
so this latest video and is I don't even know
(18:13):
if Spirit is already out or not, Like they say,
watch it on Apple TV, which I don't have Apple
TV yet. I will, but right now I'm paying for
dropout and so I've got to get rid of another
streaming service before I buy another streaming service. But that
being said, uh, this like one they're they're doing a
lot of kind of like a free Guy, just a
lot of um because Bryan Reynolds, of course of like
(18:35):
small little skits around the movie and this one, this
latest one, or at least as of putting it on
our lineup like it's it's kind of Ryan Reynolds being
super down about it, almost like nagging the movie, like oh,
they're expecting Elf and they're going to be disappointed, and
Will fare was like, no, no, no, they're not going
to be disappointed. And then Ryan Reynolds is like, yeah,
(18:57):
but it's just us singing and we don't even sing well,
and Will Ferrell's like, come on, dude, which I mean
fits with the characters. That we know that they're going
to be playing in the movie. I just thought it
was an interesting um marketing tactic. And there was some
article I read where I finally learned what what Ryan
(19:18):
Reynolds is, uh Scrooge like nature is in this movie?
Do you happen to know now, Ariel? What? What? Why
the ghosts have chosen him to visit that night because
they all are fans of Ryan Reynolds. No, no, you
know their their whole goal is for redemption. Do you
(19:40):
know what? He has to be redeemed from being Ryan
Reynolds kind of he's a troll on the internet. Okay, Okay,
Yeah I read that. I was like, it's because he
apparently his character. This was from an interview I saw
with Ryan Reynolds where he talks about how his character
(20:02):
enjoys causing chaos, uh mainly online and stirring up stuff
and and making other people have to deal with it.
And I'm like, I mean, but also like, uh, there
were there was I don't remember the name of the podcast,
(20:22):
but it happened I want to say, shortly before pandemic.
Maybe it's still happening, where there was this guy who
has some views that you know, not everybody likes it.
Her podcasts, Uh decided that he was going to make
a podcast about anybody who wrote him and said like
disparaging things about him. He was going to set up
like an in person or phone call conversation and talk
with them. And just the level of non realization people
(20:46):
had about being mean and hurtful on the Internet because
they were separated from that human interaction was a real thing.
He often ended up getting apologies from those people, going, man,
I didn't even think about how this was affecting a
real person. Um, So, like, it's definitely an issue people
have dealt with, and you know something people should be
(21:07):
cautious about. Sure, for me, it's maybe it's because I
cover this uh in my day job. And so I
just I've I've seen so many of these stories over
and over again that to get a Christmas Carol version,
I'm just like, great, But hey, who knows, maybe the
(21:30):
maybe the execution will be incredibly entertaining. I mean, it's
clear that they put a lot of effort behind this production.
So and I think I remember reading one headline that
said it's essentially a Broadway musical on screen. I mean
I like that. I like that. Um you know, even
though I wasn't a huge fan of ELF, I I
(21:53):
liked Will Ferrell playing a nice character in it. So
so yeah, so we'll see. Maybe I'll get Apple TV
before Christmas and I'll watch it. But if not, you
and I can just always watch a Christmas Carol for Netflix, Jonathan, Yeah,
the animated one. Yeah. So uh the title I gave
this the story is a trailer for a new animated
(22:16):
version of a Christmas Carol for Netflix. And you couldn't
pay me to watch it? Okay, well then you can
watch it for free. I just let me tell you so.
So I'll start off by saying it doesn't look bad,
all right, I'll start with that. It doesn't look bad,
(22:36):
but it doesn't look good either. It looks like a
very straight down the middle, milk toast musical adaptation of
a Christmas Carol, which we have seen a billion times.
There's nothing that looks particularly creative about it. I don't
really like the character designed for Scrooge. He looks a
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little too hale and hardy for my days. But um,
you know, it's not quite a professional wrestler in his
decline mode, but it's not far off and I don't
know it. Just I saw it. I was like, yeah, man,
there's so many different versions of a Christmas Carol that
are easily available for viewing. I don't know why anyone
(23:21):
would bother with this one. I mean, I get it.
There are some new songs, and so the animation style
kind of looks very Rise of the Guardians to me.
I did not have time to to see if it's
the same group. Um Also, Hardy Inhale, I want to
start a restaurant that's called Hardy Inhale or Hale and Hardy.
(23:42):
It was at this point, dear listener, that aerials power flickered.
She did get a little bit more in, but it
didn't catch on the recording where she mentioned that her
Hardy and Hale restaurant would be Hail h a I
l and they would be selling cold stews. And I said,
maybe you should make it Hardy and Kale, and then
(24:02):
she said that's a much better idea. But that's kind
of where things broke down until we were able to
re establish communications, which we pretty you too now. Whether
or not I like this particular trailer of a Christmas Carol,
we now know that Ariel is being visited by spirits
because they kicked her off her power grid briefly, so
(24:26):
we had a little interruption in recording. But Ariel, what
what was your opinion of this trailer? You were kind
of talking about it before we we were unceremoniously disconnected.
I mean, I think I was going off on a
bunny trail for for a restaurant, which is why maybe
the spirits were telling me that I needed to get
back on track. Um. I I mean, I think it
looks cute. I like the animation style. Um, But like you,
(24:51):
I don't necessarily think it's necessary. But I also feel
hypocritical for saying that because a lot of times I
do like new versions of a Christmas Carol. So well,
and you've been in stage versions of a Christmas Carol
so as different characters. Well, let's let's move on. So
the Christmas Carol animated film is coming up for Netflix.
(25:14):
The trailer is available if you want to watch it.
I'm sure it's a really cute, family friendly version. And
maybe that's the point, right, Maybe this is a way
to get audiences into the story who might not watch
other versions because they look really dated. Maybe they're paced
in a way that doesn't really appeal to younger viewers.
(25:38):
So I can see where this would have appeal. It
just doesn't work for me because I've seen so many
different versions and I have favorites of my own, none
of which are the Muppets. Don't at me, shay, Yeah,
the Muppets Christmas Carol is not good. It's not my
favorite either. I have other friends that would good at
before that as well. Um, but we're probably gonna have
(25:59):
listeners at us. To you, that's fine. If you like
mum bit of Christmas Carol, that's awesome. I was watching
him actually the other day, a really old one, and
they left out Emmett Outter jug Band Christmas, which is
my favorite Muppet Christmas special. I like the John Denver one,
but yeah, the Emmett Atter one is really good too. Yeah.
John Denver One's not bad. Uh. Something else that doesn't
at least look bad is the new trailer for Knives
(26:21):
Out Glass Onion. Yeah. So this gave us a little
more of a view of what's the premise behind us,
which obviously was going to be a murder mystery. That's
what we would all expect based upon the first Knives Out,
But the premise here is that you've got a bunch
of people who are very competitive, but they're friends with
(26:43):
one another who are gathering together for a murder mystery weekend.
And Ben wa Blanc has been invited to participate as well,
even though he's not part of this inner circle of friends. Uh.
And the trailer looks really entertained, my favorite being his
very quick conversation about the board game Clue. Yes, yes,
(27:06):
that was That was delightful. I was thinking that this
new Knives out looked a lot like Clue to me,
So yeah, I'm excited about it. Uh, there's not really
much more to say, Like Ben Wabb kind of looks
like a fanboy of the person who invited him to
the house, which is also delightful, at least from the trailer.
But yeah, I'll put these notes up on our on
(27:27):
our large er joint to colleider dot com sometime between
today and Sunday. So if you want to check it
out and you don't like Googling, you can check it
out there. Yeah, just use us as your Google for
a very narrow use of Google. Yes. Also, apparently in
film news, we're getting Gears of warm War movie and
(27:48):
animated series. Yeah, I I could have put this in
the thirty seconds or less category honestly because I don't
really Yeah, I don't really want us. I'm not gonna
get my time rap out again, but I don't really
want to spend any time on this. Gears of War
is a video game series that's been around forever, and
it's really you know, it's like like Army slash Marines
(28:12):
type characters fighting against aliens, bug like aliens. It's kind
of like Starship Troopers but said on Earth and or Halo,
or kind of well, kind of like a little less
than like Halo. I'd say more like Starship Troopers and Halo.
It's not it's not my cup of te aerial. I
tried playing one of these games, could not get into it.
It's just not my style of gameplay. So this is
(28:34):
one of those things where I'm sure fans of the
series will be excited to get mad at how their
favorite characters are portrayed in this film an animated series,
but I I'm gonna skip it fair enough. Are you
a fan of the Witcher? No? Cool? But not because
(28:55):
not because I don't like it, but because I have
not taken the time to dive into that world. I
have The Witcher three, which I think a lot of
people consider the best of the computer game series, and
I started playing it and it is really good, right,
It's like really well done, but it's super deep. You
(29:19):
can pick up practically anything, which for someone like me
is terrible because I just become a walking inventory of
stuff that I worry I might need at some point,
and I don't do anything. I sympathize, I sympathize. I've
not played any of the Witcher games, though I have
watched you know, the series, and there are things I
(29:39):
like about it, but it's it's very hard to get
into and follow, especially like in the second season, because
you have to remember everything from the first season. But mhm.
We got a teaser for the Witcher Blood Origins, which
looks like a different cast of characters featuring Michelle Yaw
and I like anything that she in and it looks
(30:01):
good to me. Yeah, you know, the trailer based upon
it being called Blood Origins, I'm guessing this is going
to kind of take us way back in the history
of the world of the Witcher, and we're going to
see how like the Witcher race was born, like these
mutated humans essentially is what a Witcher is um and
(30:24):
that they have a bit of the monster in them.
I'm guessing that's kind of what this story is about.
I honestly don't know much because I watched the trailer
and like you, I thought it looked really cool, uh,
And I thought that the characters looked interesting, and I
didn't really want to dive into more because I didn't
(30:45):
want to spoil anything. That being said, I do wonder
if my very very very limited exposure to the Witcher
world so far will be a strike against me if
I try to get into this show. You'll have to
let me know. I'll be interested to hear something else
that could have gone in thirty seconds or less. Apparently
(31:06):
we're getting welcome to dairy TV show that finally has showrunners. Uh.
It is a story about how penny Wise the Clown
became penny Wise the Clown. I'm sorry, Sarah. I know
you're listening to this, and I know you're shaking in
your boots because you don't like clos well. I I
so we did have to include this in the full
lineup because I've got a mash up and it depends
upon it. But but also um dairy. You know, Like
(31:32):
I was curious about this because I thought, well, in
in it, the characters they refer to research they've done
that shows that every twenty seven years, this evil force
re emerges and causes catastrophe in the dairy region. And
(31:57):
so I was kind of interested it, and I thought, well,
maybe we're gonna get like an interesting and episodic series
where perhaps we can even have different seasons, be different generations.
And then with it being said worded as like the
history of penny Wise, I thought, I know, it's not
really going to be the history of penny Wise, because
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that is not interesting at all. It's got to be
the interest. It's got to be the story about the
people who are affected by penny Wise. Because if it's
just the history of Pennywise, I'm like, forget it. I
don't want to see it. I mean, it might be
it might make him like a maleficit level sympathetic character
who he's just a monster that feeds on fear and
(32:43):
and terrorizes children literally to death. But he's misunderstood. That's
the scariest story of all. All right, moving on until
we get back to your mashup, Jonathan, which thank you,
spiel Steven Spielberg recently said that he does not um
or the Ashanta Post that he resents the streaming strategy
(33:04):
that Warner Brothers did during the pandemic. Yeah. Yeah, So specifically,
he was referencing how when the pandemic set in, Warner
Brothers made that big announcement that all the films that
it was releasing fore we're going to be released day
and date in the theaters and on streaming. And Spielbrigg's
(33:25):
point was that filmmakers create films for the big screen,
gosh darnet, and that they shouldn't be forced to compromise
their vision by having it scrammed onto a teeny tiny
television screen, because that's just not that's just not right,
That's not the way it was intended. And gosh darn
ittt people should feel great about gathering together in a
(33:48):
big dark room and all having a communal experience during
a pandemic where a respiratory illness can quickly spread through
a group of people. Um. Yeah, you might be able
to detect from my tone that I respectfully disagree with
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Mr Spielberg. I acknowledge that it's kind of crappy for
a filmmaker who was planning on people consuming their work
on the big screen find out that instead people are
watching it on TV. I get that that's disappointing. I
don't think that that Trump's people not dying. Yeah, I
(34:32):
mean I agree, Um, the pandemic was crappy for a
lot of people. Man, we've got a lot of stories, Jonathan.
We might need to pick it up if we also
want to get to your mashup and not keep people
on for two hours. Yeah, and by people, she means herself,
because time is ticking, all right, we're gonna go through
next up. We got quick reaction for the trailer for
(34:53):
john Wick four. It got released. We got to see
a little bit more, not a whole lot about the story,
mostly you know, cool action shots and somewhat vague talk
about being at the table and stuff like that. I
find the lore of the John Wick series to get
increasingly ridiculous with each episode, um to the point where
(35:16):
I think everyone in that world now is an assassin.
So yeah, Well, Also it's confusing because like in the trailer,
he's like, They're like, if we have family at the table,
you can get out. I'm like, wasn't that the story
of like two or three are or even one even Yeah,
(35:37):
it looks like more of the same. So if you
really like the John Wick movies, then you know you're
probably gonna enjoy this. I personally, I think they're fine.
I think they're they're The action scenes are entertaining to watch.
I don't understand how two trained assassins who are supposedly
at the top of their game can stand six ft
apart from each other firing handguns at one another while
(35:59):
also holding melee weapons and not hit anything. I don't
understand how that happens. Bullet bending it must be. Yeah,
they're they're doing what was that movie with Angelina Jolie
where you did bend the bullet? But no, never mind,
I mean I remember what I don't remember. Yeah, I
don't remember either, like had like a one word name
(36:20):
like wanted or something. All right, Well, tell me Ariel
about Magic Girl Shakespeare. Okay, so Magic Girl Shakespeare. Well
that's not the name of the game. I don't think. No,
it's not. The game is called this Way Madness Lies.
It's an indie game that is a bunch of um
high school girls putting on drama that occasionally have to
(36:41):
jump into Shakespeare plays to fight the forces of evil.
So your magic girls and you put on plays and
you fight evil and it kind of looks like Pokemon
kind of ish turn based fighting from the screenshots, but
the review I've read about it says that it's pretty
good at like giving you um interesting fighting opportunities while
(37:05):
still letting you feel like you're part of the world
and exploring the world. And it's not just one or
the other, So it sounds like it's pretty well balanced. Interesting. Yeah,
this was one of those news stories that I accidentally
did not look at before we started recording, so I
literally only had the headline to go from, and I
was like, what the heck is a Magic Girl Shakespeare
(37:27):
fighting game? But now you're on to download and play it,
aren't you. Well yeah, I mean it sounds like it's
totally my bag. You want to be a magic Shakespeare Girl. Yes,
we have a couple of sad stories to conclude this
episode before we go into our mash up. One is
that Kevin Conroy, the actor who, perhaps to our listeners,
(37:48):
might be best known as the actor who lent his
voice as Batman for countless incarnations of the Batman character,
and like animation and in games and stuff has passed away,
so that's very sad. And another Kevin, Kevin O'Neill, who
co created The League of Extraordinary Gentleman with Alan Moore,
(38:12):
has also passed away. So two important Kevin's in the
geek sphere have have passed on. Well, isn't Leak of
Extraordinary Gentleman also d C? Yeah, technically it is. Yeah,
it was. I forget what the name of the the
branch of d C that it fell under, but yeah,
(38:34):
so yeah, it's a sad day for DC. Kevin Conroy
was like, I like, leave Extraordinary Gentleman. I haven't read
a whole lot of it in the movies have just
been okay, um, but I appreciate what like the use
of classic monsters. Kevin Conroy was my Batman. He was
my favorite batman. I'll say this areal like the League
of Extraordinary Gentleman. If anyone out there is interested in
(38:56):
reading those graphic novels, just know that the the key
phrase in that is graphic, because joy howdy, there are
some really rough things that happened in those stories. And uh,
I've read it and kind of think like I would
(39:17):
have been just fine, not having read it, particularly when
you get to Dr Jekyll, Mr. Hyde, It's it's rough,
so um so, so just be aware. But yeah, um yeah,
I mean, like I said, I like classical monsters. I'm
glad to know that it's rough. The movie wasn't rough.
I guess the little bit I've read wasn't rough. The
(39:38):
movie was ridiculous. It was the little with Sean Connery.
All right, speaking of ridiculous, Yeah, we haven't done a
mashup in a little bit, and I just thought I would.
I had a little extra time on my hands, so
and I had the creative bug bite me. So I
asked Ariel if I could do one, and she said yes.
So I took two properties to mash together. That's what
(40:00):
we do. We take two unrelated things and then say
what would happen if you combine them? And you might
remember we were talking previously about a series called Pennyworth
The Origins of Batman's Butler, which just got that subtitle
this most recent season. It had had two seasons on
a little watch network called Epics E p I X,
(40:24):
and now has moved to HBO Max. And of course
it follows the history of Alfred Pennyworth, the man who
would become Thomas Wayne's butler and kind of the man
behind the keyboard for Bruce Wayne as Batman. And this
particular incarnation is supposed to be the historical version of
(40:47):
the one that showed up in the series Gotham, which
I could not stand that series. So but anyway, that's
one and the other. Because we were talking about the
the Dairy series of the background on penny Wise, I thought, well,
we got Alfred Pennyworth. What happens if I combined that
with penny Wise the clown? And so those are the
(41:10):
two properties I've decided to put together for my mashup. Yeah.
So also when Jonathan asked me if he could do
a mashup, and I said, yeah, I won't have time.
I do want to write more mashups, you guys, because
I love doing that too. I just it's it's been
a couple of a couple of crazy months for me.
But but I said, yes, of course you should write
(41:30):
a mash up. In fact, you should. It is penance
you have to pay for sorely misjudging. Are the number
of our audience? Oh right? Yeah? Because I found out
that we had h I was just off by a
couple of zeros. Yeah, we have more like four hundred
other than four. So okay, all right, But here's my
(41:53):
here's my mashup is called Pennywise, the terrifying story of
Batman's butler, Bruce Wayne has a problem. Actually, he has
a bunch of them. For example, and I don't know
if you know this, but when Bruce was a kid,
his parents were killed during a robbery attempt in a
place called crime Alley. And you might say, wow, I
(42:16):
don't want to victim blame, but maybe it's a bad
idea to take a shortcut down a lane called crime Alley,
particularly if you're dressed in a lot of rich folks stuff.
And sure, their judgment was at best questionable, but the
real blame still has to go to the guy who
actually attacked them, Joe Chill or the joker whoever. I'm
(42:37):
not sure in this particular fiction who it was. Anyway,
that's not the problem. Also, as a consequence, Bruce develops
this deep need to seek vengeance on the criminal element
in Gotham City, which is, by the way, where we are.
If I got to mention that we're in Gotham, so
it's crime Alley that's in Gotham City. And when names
like these, it's just a matter of time before we
(42:58):
get to murder Boulevard or or it sure would be
a shame if something happened to your Kneecaps Avenue. But
that's not even the problem I'm talking about, Nor is
the problem of Bruce figuring out how to scare criminals
so that they don't, you know, immediately murder him to death.
He figures out that by dressing up like a bat
(43:18):
he could scare bad guys, But really he could have
dressed up like anything, because I submit to you that
a grown ass man dressed as any kind of animal,
running and punching and kicking at you is gonna make
you just have your tummy clinch in fear. No, Bruce
Wayne's current problem, the one that pertains to our story,
(43:39):
is his butler, Alfred Pennywise. He's been in the family
for generations, or at least one Bruce's parents, Thomas, And
why did you say Martha hired Pennywise something like twenty
six years ago. Oh, and this version of the story,
we're gonna say that Bruce Wayne is like which is
young vera batman's story? But I need it for the
(43:59):
man to work out anyway. For some reason, Alfred is
looking a little bit different from his normal self. For
all of Bruce's life, which again is twenty five years,
this is important. Alfred has just been a kind of
boring old English guy. Sure, there were hints of a
more dramatic past that Alfred may at one point and
belonged to the Special Air Services of Britain, becoming a
(44:22):
decorated Special Forces soldier and leader a paramilitary security expert. Also,
he might have crossed paths with an anarchist wearing a
guy Fox mask at some point. But honestly, I'm not
caught up with Pennyworth, so I don't know if that's
really developed yet. But now Pennywise seems a bit more eccentric.
(44:42):
For one thing, he's about a foot taller. He has
a bulbous head with fluffy red hair all around it.
One of his eyes goes all funny, so it's hard
to know which one's looking at you. And he drools
a lot. I mean, he drew it a lot before,
but now his mouth is all fangy. Oh and he's
also no longer in his butler uniform. Instead, he wears
a clown suit. It's a dramatic enough departure from his
(45:05):
normal appearance that even Bruce notices one morning when Pennywise
brings him his breakfast, which, once Bruce lifts the close,
appears to be a red helium balloon that immediately floats
to the ceiling. Bruce decides it's time to dive into this,
so Alfred, he says, how are things now? At this point,
(45:26):
Alfred smiles an impossibly wide smile, and he opens his mouth,
whereupon the top of his head flips back in this
intense light begins to shine out, and then he starts
to sound like Tim Curry as this voice just comes
out of him, saying, we all float down here. Huh,
says Bruce Wayne, who gets up and casually strolls to
(45:47):
the bat Cave. There, Bruce Wayne does a little research,
by which I mean googling, because let's face it, no
recent depiction of Batman outside of the comics has managed
to show him as an actual detective. And there he
finds out that twenty seven years ago, one year before
Thomas Wayne hired Alfred, there was this problem in Gotham
(46:08):
where all these kids went missing, including Bruce's older sibling,
who might have been a brother or a sister, depending
on if you're reading the comics or watching the Pennyworth
TV show. And Bruce starts researching more, by which I
mean he goes to a few Wikipedia articles, and he
figures out that the timeline of Pennywise joining the Wayne
(46:31):
household came right after all these mysterious disappearances because he
does the math, and then he figures that the correlation
is the same thing as causation. Everybody knows that it's
because he's a really bad detective. Hey, Alfred, says Bruce.
Do you have like this crazy cycle that happens every
(46:54):
twenty seven years where you become a hideous monster that
preys upon children because they feel you're more intensely than adults.
And Alfred is like, yes, sorry about that, Master Waine.
That does tend to happen. And my father hired you anyway,
says Bruce. Honestly it didn't come up in the interview,
says Alfred. And then Bruce is like, look, I can't
(47:18):
have my butler terrorizing children unless they are villains. If
if they are children and villains, I guess it's okay
to scare them, because that's kind of my thing when
I go after villains, because they are superstitious, cowardly lot.
But I think that's the only exception I can make.
I understand, Master Wayne, Shall I hand in my notice?
(47:38):
Says Alfred. How long does this crazy cycle last? Asks Bruce.
About ye Masta Wayne, says Alfred. All right, how about
you take a year, hiatus. I'm sure I can figure
out how to put on my pants before a year
is out, says Bruce. Thank you, masta wine. And you
aren't going to come off to me, asks Alfred. Oh no, no, no,
(48:01):
no no, you already have a clown arch nemesis. I
can't risk being redundant. Already have to explain my backstory
in every single incarnation, and so I'm on thin ice already,
says Bruce. Very good, must wine, says Alfred, before I go.
Do you know what? We fall? Musta Wayne, so that
we can get back up again, says Bruce. No, so
(48:24):
we can float. We all float down here, says Alfred,
who begins to laugh maniacally credits. I absolutely loved it.
Your will our net Batman was spot on, and your
Bill Scarce guard anywise was no it was more of
the Tim Curry Pennywise. It was great. It wasn't I was.
(48:47):
I was searching rouugh for Michael Caine, but I was like,
unless I say my Cocaine and Michelcaine, I can't really
get it. Oh no, like you're your Alfred was great.
It was just when it when it went into penny Wise,
because it was a mix of Alfred and penny Wise,
which again spot on. It almost sounded a little Sea
captain e, which I was delightful. Now that it was delightful. Uh,
(49:12):
scary clowns and all. I love that. Thank you see
in my bash up. It's good. I didn't write one
because it would just be, uh, Pennywise shows up at
the Wayne manner Or and Pennyworth just goes nope and
closes the door. Yeah, because I thought about putting Pennywise
into the story of penny Worth, but then I thought
(49:34):
this is going to require me to watch some episodes
of Pennyworth and I don't have that kind of time,
so I have not done that yet. I did read
a synopsis of the stuff that's going on, and I
was surprised to find that um that according to the
wikis anyway, that the series Pennyworth has within it elements
(49:55):
that hint that the Britain you see in Pennyworth is
the one that evolves into the Britain that's in V
for Vendetta. Oh interesting, Yeah, which is why I had
the whole thing about Guy Fox Mask, because apparently Pennyworth
is active during the time where there's this fascist faction
(50:17):
in the UK that's attempting to get power, and assuming
that it becomes the V for Vendetta universe, they eventually succeed.
I that almost makes me interested in watching same. Yeah,
which in V for Vendetta that's another Alan Moore connection,
Alan Moore being the co creator of League of Extraordinary Gentlemen.
So it all comes back around the geek sphere ends
(50:40):
up having you know, one degree of separation from everything else.
So pretty interesting, Pretty interesting. Well, if you thought that
was interesting, or you have any interesting facts you'd like
to share with us about the things we talked about
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(51:22):
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out if you missed an episode or something, or you're
just wondering where the heck is that trailer? Those links
should be up soon ish as you listen to this episode, Yes,
(51:43):
I will say there are there are a few episodes
that did not make it on there. Um, but I'm
going to be better about it. That is my commitment
to you. Yeah, I handed that over to her because
I was really bad about it. But until next time,
I'm Jonathan crying on the inside kind I guess Strickland,
(52:05):
and I am Ariel hiding behind a shiny red balloon.
Cast in the large Nerdron Collider was created by Ariel
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That by Jonathan Strickland. Music by Kevin McLeod having comptech
(52:29):
dot Com
M Hey, everybody, Welcome to the Large and Your Drunklelider podcast,
the podcast that's all about the kiki things happening in
the world around us and how very excited we are
about them. I'm Ario casting and with me as always
as a super stupendous Jonathan Strict. I'm super thanks for asking.
(00:24):
You're welcome. So once again we have come together to
gather a lot of the geeky news of the week
and talk about it. And once again, our our news
items got way longer than what we had anticipated. So
we thought, since the last time was such a big hit,
I'm assuming, I mean, I haven't heard anyone complain about it,
(00:48):
that we would do another thirty seconds or less segment
where we attempt to describe a geeky news story within
thirty seconds or or less. Hopefully the actual description of
the news story will take less time than me introducing
this segment. I like your shat and er esque like
(01:11):
uh int intro there. Yeah, I've had some positively pregnant
pauses in that in that phrase. All right, So we
have divided up these stories between the two of us,
although now I look at it, I'm like, huh, we
could have done this so that they would alternate back
and forth, but didn't. It's it's it's a scramble. It'll
(01:33):
be fun. Yeah, So I've got the first one. I
am going to start the clock now. So our first
story is that Sean Levy is developing a Star Wars film.
Sean Levy is known as the director of Deadpool. He's
working on Deadpool three right now, and so there is
(01:54):
an assumption that any Star Wars film he is working
on is probably going to becoming probably i'd say five
at the earliest, probably later than that. So we don't
really have any details on it, but it's an interesting choice.
And I'm done. Great, Okay, what's the next one? Oh? Shoot,
I had two in a row, all right, next one
(02:16):
and I'm gonna start now, Okay. We also have the
barest of details about an upcoming Star Wars series called
The Acolyte, which, as far as we know, is some
sort of murder mystery ish things set during the era
of the High Republic. We know that Amandela Stenberg and
(02:37):
Lee Jung Jai are in it, as well as Carrie
and Moss who was in the Matrix, and lots of
other folks and I'm running out of time. But that's
about all we know except this is going to be
a series on Disney Plus and done. Oh you're technically
one second late, Jonathan, Okay, my turn, well not on mine.
On mine, I had the little timer on. It's at
twenty nine seconds point five eight. All right, well then
(03:00):
I'll trust your timer, okay and go. We have more
Star Wars news, which is that shoot studio Giebli. And
we didn't know the Start Wars news until today. Probably
um Studio Ghiblie posted something really cryptic on Twitter that
was the lucasfilm logo and then their student Studio Giblie
photo our logo, and everybody was like, oh, they're gonna
do some sort of mashup and we don't know anything
(03:21):
about it what they're doing. But today they tweeted something
that was just a little like gro Goo or Yoda
mini figure on a table with um I thank Miazaki
maybe behind it anyhow, U so that is a mashup.
We might have Did I go over thirty seconds? You
were three point three point four seven seconds over? Dang it? Ah?
(03:43):
Well uh not according to my Oh dang already said
I wasn't using my timer. Okay, the next one, I
will make it up in this one. Okay. So we
have a little bit of news about the Umbrella Academy,
and really that's just that season four has wrapped, I think.
And also oh nope, it's underway. And also the title
(04:07):
of the first episode is the inmbearable Tragedy of getting
what you Want done. Also it's the final season. It
is the final season. Surely that was under thirty second,
Yeah it was. It was where you were right around
eighteen seconds when I jumped in. Um. Yeah, so that's
the In fact, the music was probably playing out even
as I started saying that sentence, because I don't plan
(04:30):
on cutting it short. It will just play until until
it gets through, and then it'll play again because it's
fun to put the music behind this segment, but it's
also a little time consuming. All right, last one for
our thirty seconds and less and I it's my turn,
(04:50):
so I'm gonna hit it now. Okay. Our last story
is that James Gunn and Peter Saffron, who are the
co ce owes of d C Universe for like all
the all the non comic books stuff appeared with David
Zaslov like a town hall meeting and said that they
are working together on an eight to ten year plan
(05:12):
for DC across movies, t D, animation, and potentially video games,
so unifying vision, long term plan. Not a big surprise,
but pretty cool and done. I'm actually pretty surprised, not surprised,
delighted about that. James Gunn says, if Zaslov wasn't um
excited about it, he wouldn't be doing this. So hopefully
that's good news. Uh Okay, I know we're done with
(05:36):
that news story, but having worked for David Zaslov, I'm
gonna say James Gunn was being very very kind in
saying that David Zaslov clearly has a deep appreciation for
this i P and that that's why this is going forward.
I would argue David Zaslov sees the d C i
P as being profitable just like the Harry Potter i P.
(05:59):
And that's why he wants it, because he's trying to
get the company out of a very deep debt pit.
I get that, and I don't want to disqualify any
of your past experiences. In my like little brain, I'd
hope there would be at least a little bit of
h he also enjoys d C, even if it doesn't
actually factor in. Um, I hope, I hope. So I
(06:21):
would just not be surprised to learn that that is
fair enough. We'll move on, Okay, Okay, yeah, no, it's
it's a good valid point you have having worked for
him before. All right, So we are first actual news story, UM,
which I don't know if we're going to talk much
over thirty seconds about it except for now I probably
already have, is that we have a trailer for z Utopia. Plus.
(06:45):
I'm especially delighted by this because last week I thought
we had a trailer first Utopia. Plus, I could have
sworn that Disney had released something, and then when we
went to look for the link, it wasn't there. Yeah,
and it may very well be that Disney prematurely posted
the trailer, because there were there were dozens of YouTube
channels out there that had footage from this trailer that
(07:09):
we have watched for this episode. They had the footage,
so clearly something got released, and so there were lots
of fan made trailers. And I used that phrase loosely. Uh,
there are a lot of YouTube channels out there that
attempt to cash in on popular I p by just
doing like a hatchet job edit. And that was the
(07:32):
case of the Utopia stuff we saw. There was one
that had the worst voice over I've ever heard to
attached to a trailer, to the point where I was like,
how did Disney even release this? And the answer was
they didn't. But now whatever happened originally, whether the trailer
was accidentally published early and then pulled, we have it
and it looks cute. It's a so the series. Each
(07:53):
series episode in the series looks like it's a focusing
on a different character slash scenario, and the one I'm
really looking forward to, of course, is the one with
the slots. Yeah. Yeah, I honestly did not, and maybe
they announced it and I just missed it, But I
did not expect them to go the anthology route with this.
Yeah no, I didn't either. That was I just thought
(08:15):
it was going to be a episodic series. Yeah. Yeah,
I'm I'm really excited about the Godfather of the bride
um because that was one of my favorite pop culture
references in c Utopia. Did you enjoy the movie? I did? I? Well,
I go back and forth because some of the underlying
messages in that film I struggle with It's kind of
(08:39):
similar to how I feel about wreck ittt Ralph in that. Uh.
These are movies where if I think critically about about
the story, I come up with things where I'm like,
I assumed this isn't what they intended, but this is
how I'm inferring the meaning behind this particular story, and
(09:01):
I have a deep disagreement with the point of view.
That being said, I thought the performances were great. I
thought the animation was great. I was charmed by it
um so, and I actually kind of like the Shakira
song at the end, so I was is it. Yes, Yeah,
(09:22):
there's a there are a bunch of like Disney um
during the pandemic. There are a bunch of like Disney
Zoomba or hit workouts that popped up on YouTube for free.
They're still there if you want to try them out
in your house. Uh. And that Shakira song was very
popular among them. So yeah, it's a It's a good
fun one to pop along to. Our next story is
(09:43):
the rumor is that Doctor Who under Disney Plus, Because
now we know that Disney Plus is going to be
streaming Doctor Who is going to end up getting a
bit of a budget boost. This was based off an
article in The Merry Sue, And honestly, I don't know
how accurate that that that suggestion is, that that guess
(10:05):
is right, because I don't know how much the streaming
side of things is going to play into the broadcast
side of things. Because the assumption that the Mary Sue
article makes is that because Disney Plus tends to have
these higher production value series, that we're going to see
a triple the budget boost for Dr Who. And then
(10:31):
there's the question of whether or not that's a good thing,
because Doctor Who, as an English production, has a very
long history of working doing a lot with the smallest
of budgets. So that's true, they're like compared to the
tens of millions of dollars at something like Rings of
(10:52):
Power cost which per episode, which the Mary Sue kind
of pends. But I'm at three episodes in and I'm
kind of enjoying it, honestly. You know, Doctor Who is
only like one to three million pounds per episode. Now,
I do feel like I've heard stories and obviously I
can't corroborate them that, like the actors are a little
bit run ragged because they have to run over all
over these like practical sets because you know, low budgets
(11:15):
and whatever. I feel like in the past few years,
doctor who has upped their budgets, um, their effects have
gotten better. It's gotten a little bit away from that
BBC direct feel, which like my my husband doesn't actually
like watching BBC shows because there's something about the video
or sound quality that just he's always like, that is
a BBC show and he can't get past it. Well, yeah,
(11:39):
especially like if you're looking at stuff from the seventies
and eighties, it has an extremely cheap quality to it,
and like, you know, anything that was sci fi related,
and the Brits love sci fi, Like there were a
lot of British sci fi shows. But if you look
at any British sci fi show that has any sort
of alien that isn't just a slightly altered human, they
(12:00):
all look like giant rubber suits. But I know that, Like, Okay,
So for even for shows that are now kind of
under Disney's umbrella that are not necessarily on Disney Plus itself,
so like X type shows or Hulu shows for instance,
Always Sunny in Philadelphia also had Disney poor and money
in the budget where they needed it to make it quality. Uh.
(12:22):
They put a monkey into an episode of the latest
season I've Always Sunny in Philadelphia and um because people
don't want to use monkey actors anymore. It was C
g I and Disney paid for that so that it
would be like, I couldn't tell it was a really
good C g I monkey. So if they can do
that for Always Sunny in Philadelphia, surely they can do
that for Disney or for dry What were you going
(12:43):
to say, So, are you sure it was a monkey
or was it just Charlie Day? Oh, it was certainly
a monkey, because sometimes the monkey and Charlie Day would
be on the screen at the same time. Uh. I
don't think he can split himself into two and they
would be like it wasn't a mirror either. Did that
splits green thing? You know, like parent trap style? Uh No,
I'm just teasing. Obviously. Well we'll we'll see if in
(13:07):
fact we do get more money poured into Doctor Who
and whether or not that will change things. I can't
see it changing the tone of the show, especially with
Russell T. Davies coming back. And I know there's some
people who worry because any change to something that's beloved
is often viewed with anxiety, that kind of anticipation. That's true,
(13:34):
but I mean like things like the foundation of the show,
Like that's different than changing. Oh, this doctor has a
slightly different level of quirkiness to him or her or them. Um,
So you know, well, we'll have to we'll have to see.
I'll have to see. Maybe you'll watch it if it's
on Disney. Plus, I'm looking forward to seeing what they do. Also,
(13:55):
something that I am looking forward to m I was
an and I wasn't and now I am again, which
is the gameral Germo del Toro Pinocchio. Um. When we
first heard about it, I was so excited because he
kind of used Pinocchio as like a Frankenstein type story.
And then the first trailer came out and it looked cute,
(14:16):
and that was about it. We'll see. I remember seeing
the teaser and thinking it looked a little creepy to me,
which didn't really surprise me too much because Yeamo del
Toro is also known for being a big horror fan.
But I was like, why are you making a horror
movie version of Pinocchio? But now we've got a longer
form trailer and it's left me thinking either one I'm
(14:40):
misremembering the teaser, or whoever cut the teaser together did
so in a way that that gave me the wrong
impression of what this film is going to be, because
the new full trailer really makes it look like a
sweet adaptation of Pinocchio. Oh that's so interesting, because when
I watched the teaser or the first trailer, I don't
(15:02):
know which way it was, I was like, okay, this,
I expected something that was Pinocchio but a little scary.
And if you think I think there are some scary
aspects behind the Pinocchio story, there there are some scary
through lines in it. I thought it was gonna be
much scarier than it looked, and this new trailer makes
it look a little bit more of like that creepy
um not Pans Labyrinthe isn't horror because Pan's Labyrinthe is
(15:24):
scary and hard, but kind of just that level of
like step away from reality, which is a weird thing
to say about, like a c G I clamation whatnot story,
But yeah, it looks a little bit more um Pan's
Labyrinthe mirror mask to me now, unless of just like,
oh sweet story, So it's interesting that you feel off
(15:45):
with it. Yeah, yeah, it is interesting we have these
kind of opposite takes on this. Uh. I also want
to say that I don't know about you, arial but
to me, this looks about a billion times more appealing
than the recent Disney Live action adaptation of their Pinocchio.
Oh yes, yes, um you know what. I have said
(16:06):
that we need another Pinocchio story. No, because we get
one like every three years. But I will probably watch
this and I will probably enjoy it. Now. See, if
Giammo del Toro had cast Benicio del Toro as Pinocchio,
you would you would have to pry me away from
the movie theater because I would just be there to
see every showing, just just because why is someone so
(16:28):
old playing Pinocchio? It's because he'll flip you. He'll flip
you for real. It's a usual Suspects reference. I get,
you know, I guess. I guess he could play Geppetto.
He'd be better as a Geppetto. He's not quite old enough,
but you can make him as a as the cricket, like,
but then the cricket would steal the show. Jimney isn't
(16:49):
supposed to steal the show. I'm okay, all right, Well
you know what, maybe that's it. Maybe the next version
of Pinocchio is going to follow the point the view
of a totally different character, and we'll get a story
completely from Jiminy Crickets perspective, from starting from the point
where he's like resultful of being given the burden of
(17:11):
having to be the conscience of this wooden boy like
in the original story, he gets Pinocchio kills him and
then feels bad about Well, I am So your final
question for you, Ariel, are you planning on will you
watch this? Will you watch this version of Pinocchio? Yeah,
I'm I'm gonna watch it. It's gonna happen. I might
(17:31):
even have like my nieces, my niece and nephews over
to watch it with me. What about you, I probably
ain't gonna watch it. It's it's definitely it definitely, like
I said, caught my attention way more than the live
action Disney version of the story. Uh. Something else that
we're curious about and that Ariel probably isn't going to
(17:52):
watch because she lacks the streaming service for it is Spirited,
which we we talked about last week, but they keep
putting out more promotional material for this twisted take on
a Christmas Carol, and um, why don't you talk about Ariel? Yeah,
so this latest video and is I don't even know
(18:13):
if Spirit is already out or not, Like they say,
watch it on Apple TV, which I don't have Apple
TV yet. I will, but right now I'm paying for
dropout and so I've got to get rid of another
streaming service before I buy another streaming service. But that
being said, uh, this like one they're they're doing a
lot of kind of like a free Guy, just a
lot of um because Bryan Reynolds, of course of like
(18:35):
small little skits around the movie and this one, this
latest one, or at least as of putting it on
our lineup like it's it's kind of Ryan Reynolds being
super down about it, almost like nagging the movie, like oh,
they're expecting Elf and they're going to be disappointed, and
Will fare was like, no, no, no, they're not going
to be disappointed. And then Ryan Reynolds is like, yeah,
(18:57):
but it's just us singing and we don't even sing well,
and Will Ferrell's like, come on, dude, which I mean
fits with the characters. That we know that they're going
to be playing in the movie. I just thought it
was an interesting um marketing tactic. And there was some
article I read where I finally learned what what Ryan
(19:18):
Reynolds is, uh Scrooge like nature is in this movie?
Do you happen to know now, Ariel? What? What? Why
the ghosts have chosen him to visit that night because
they all are fans of Ryan Reynolds. No, no, you
know their their whole goal is for redemption. Do you
(19:40):
know what? He has to be redeemed from being Ryan
Reynolds kind of he's a troll on the internet. Okay, Okay,
Yeah I read that. I was like, it's because he
apparently his character. This was from an interview I saw
with Ryan Reynolds where he talks about how his character
(20:02):
enjoys causing chaos, uh mainly online and stirring up stuff
and and making other people have to deal with it.
And I'm like, I mean, but also like, uh, there
were there was I don't remember the name of the podcast,
(20:22):
but it happened I want to say, shortly before pandemic.
Maybe it's still happening, where there was this guy who
has some views that you know, not everybody likes it.
Her podcasts, Uh decided that he was going to make
a podcast about anybody who wrote him and said like
disparaging things about him. He was going to set up
like an in person or phone call conversation and talk
with them. And just the level of non realization people
(20:46):
had about being mean and hurtful on the Internet because
they were separated from that human interaction was a real thing.
He often ended up getting apologies from those people, going, man,
I didn't even think about how this was affecting a
real person. Um, So, like, it's definitely an issue people
have dealt with, and you know something people should be
(21:07):
cautious about. Sure, for me, it's maybe it's because I
cover this uh in my day job. And so I
just I've I've seen so many of these stories over
and over again that to get a Christmas Carol version,
I'm just like, great, But hey, who knows, maybe the
(21:30):
maybe the execution will be incredibly entertaining. I mean, it's
clear that they put a lot of effort behind this production.
So and I think I remember reading one headline that
said it's essentially a Broadway musical on screen. I mean
I like that. I like that. Um you know, even
though I wasn't a huge fan of ELF, I I
(21:53):
liked Will Ferrell playing a nice character in it. So
so yeah, so we'll see. Maybe I'll get Apple TV
before Christmas and I'll watch it. But if not, you
and I can just always watch a Christmas Carol for Netflix, Jonathan, Yeah,
the animated one. Yeah. So uh the title I gave
this the story is a trailer for a new animated
(22:16):
version of a Christmas Carol for Netflix. And you couldn't
pay me to watch it? Okay, well then you can
watch it for free. I just let me tell you so.
So I'll start off by saying it doesn't look bad,
all right, I'll start with that. It doesn't look bad,
(22:36):
but it doesn't look good either. It looks like a
very straight down the middle, milk toast musical adaptation of
a Christmas Carol, which we have seen a billion times.
There's nothing that looks particularly creative about it. I don't
really like the character designed for Scrooge. He looks a
(22:58):
little too hale and hardy for my days. But um,
you know, it's not quite a professional wrestler in his
decline mode, but it's not far off and I don't
know it. Just I saw it. I was like, yeah, man,
there's so many different versions of a Christmas Carol that
are easily available for viewing. I don't know why anyone
(23:21):
would bother with this one. I mean, I get it.
There are some new songs, and so the animation style
kind of looks very Rise of the Guardians to me.
I did not have time to to see if it's
the same group. Um Also, Hardy Inhale, I want to
start a restaurant that's called Hardy Inhale or Hale and Hardy.
(23:42):
It was at this point, dear listener, that aerials power flickered.
She did get a little bit more in, but it
didn't catch on the recording where she mentioned that her
Hardy and Hale restaurant would be Hail h a I
l and they would be selling cold stews. And I said,
maybe you should make it Hardy and Kale, and then
(24:02):
she said that's a much better idea. But that's kind
of where things broke down until we were able to
re establish communications, which we pretty you too now. Whether
or not I like this particular trailer of a Christmas Carol,
we now know that Ariel is being visited by spirits
because they kicked her off her power grid briefly, so
(24:26):
we had a little interruption in recording. But Ariel, what
what was your opinion of this trailer? You were kind
of talking about it before we we were unceremoniously disconnected.
I mean, I think I was going off on a
bunny trail for for a restaurant, which is why maybe
the spirits were telling me that I needed to get
back on track. Um. I I mean, I think it
looks cute. I like the animation style. Um, But like you,
(24:51):
I don't necessarily think it's necessary. But I also feel
hypocritical for saying that because a lot of times I
do like new versions of a Christmas Carol. So well,
and you've been in stage versions of a Christmas Carol
so as different characters. Well, let's let's move on. So
the Christmas Carol animated film is coming up for Netflix.
(25:14):
The trailer is available if you want to watch it.
I'm sure it's a really cute, family friendly version. And
maybe that's the point, right, Maybe this is a way
to get audiences into the story who might not watch
other versions because they look really dated. Maybe they're paced
in a way that doesn't really appeal to younger viewers.
(25:38):
So I can see where this would have appeal. It
just doesn't work for me because I've seen so many
different versions and I have favorites of my own, none
of which are the Muppets. Don't at me, shay, Yeah,
the Muppets Christmas Carol is not good. It's not my
favorite either. I have other friends that would good at
before that as well. Um, but we're probably gonna have
(25:59):
listeners at us. To you, that's fine. If you like
mum bit of Christmas Carol, that's awesome. I was watching
him actually the other day, a really old one, and
they left out Emmett Outter jug Band Christmas, which is
my favorite Muppet Christmas special. I like the John Denver one,
but yeah, the Emmett Atter one is really good too. Yeah.
John Denver One's not bad. Uh. Something else that doesn't
at least look bad is the new trailer for Knives
(26:21):
Out Glass Onion. Yeah. So this gave us a little
more of a view of what's the premise behind us,
which obviously was going to be a murder mystery. That's
what we would all expect based upon the first Knives Out,
But the premise here is that you've got a bunch
of people who are very competitive, but they're friends with
(26:43):
one another who are gathering together for a murder mystery weekend.
And Ben wa Blanc has been invited to participate as well,
even though he's not part of this inner circle of friends. Uh.
And the trailer looks really entertained, my favorite being his
very quick conversation about the board game Clue. Yes, yes,
(27:06):
that was That was delightful. I was thinking that this
new Knives out looked a lot like Clue to me,
So yeah, I'm excited about it. Uh, there's not really
much more to say, Like Ben Wabb kind of looks
like a fanboy of the person who invited him to
the house, which is also delightful, at least from the trailer.
But yeah, I'll put these notes up on our on
(27:27):
our large er joint to colleider dot com sometime between
today and Sunday. So if you want to check it
out and you don't like Googling, you can check it
out there. Yeah, just use us as your Google for
a very narrow use of Google. Yes. Also, apparently in
film news, we're getting Gears of warm War movie and
(27:48):
animated series. Yeah, I I could have put this in
the thirty seconds or less category honestly because I don't
really Yeah, I don't really want us. I'm not gonna
get my time rap out again, but I don't really
want to spend any time on this. Gears of War
is a video game series that's been around forever, and
it's really you know, it's like like Army slash Marines
(28:12):
type characters fighting against aliens, bug like aliens. It's kind
of like Starship Troopers but said on Earth and or Halo,
or kind of well, kind of like a little less
than like Halo. I'd say more like Starship Troopers and Halo.
It's not it's not my cup of te aerial. I
tried playing one of these games, could not get into it.
It's just not my style of gameplay. So this is
(28:34):
one of those things where I'm sure fans of the
series will be excited to get mad at how their
favorite characters are portrayed in this film an animated series,
but I I'm gonna skip it fair enough. Are you
a fan of the Witcher? No? Cool? But not because
(28:55):
not because I don't like it, but because I have
not taken the time to dive into that world. I
have The Witcher three, which I think a lot of
people consider the best of the computer game series, and
I started playing it and it is really good, right,
It's like really well done, but it's super deep. You
(29:19):
can pick up practically anything, which for someone like me
is terrible because I just become a walking inventory of
stuff that I worry I might need at some point,
and I don't do anything. I sympathize, I sympathize. I've
not played any of the Witcher games, though I have
watched you know, the series, and there are things I
(29:39):
like about it, but it's it's very hard to get
into and follow, especially like in the second season, because
you have to remember everything from the first season. But mhm.
We got a teaser for the Witcher Blood Origins, which
looks like a different cast of characters featuring Michelle Yaw
and I like anything that she in and it looks
(30:01):
good to me. Yeah, you know, the trailer based upon
it being called Blood Origins, I'm guessing this is going
to kind of take us way back in the history
of the world of the Witcher, and we're going to
see how like the Witcher race was born, like these
mutated humans essentially is what a Witcher is um and
(30:24):
that they have a bit of the monster in them.
I'm guessing that's kind of what this story is about.
I honestly don't know much because I watched the trailer
and like you, I thought it looked really cool, uh,
And I thought that the characters looked interesting, and I
didn't really want to dive into more because I didn't
(30:45):
want to spoil anything. That being said, I do wonder
if my very very very limited exposure to the Witcher
world so far will be a strike against me if
I try to get into this show. You'll have to
let me know. I'll be interested to hear something else
that could have gone in thirty seconds or less. Apparently
(31:06):
we're getting welcome to dairy TV show that finally has showrunners. Uh.
It is a story about how penny Wise the Clown
became penny Wise the Clown. I'm sorry, Sarah. I know
you're listening to this, and I know you're shaking in
your boots because you don't like clos well. I I
so we did have to include this in the full
lineup because I've got a mash up and it depends
upon it. But but also um dairy. You know, Like
(31:32):
I was curious about this because I thought, well, in
in it, the characters they refer to research they've done
that shows that every twenty seven years, this evil force
re emerges and causes catastrophe in the dairy region. And
(31:57):
so I was kind of interested it, and I thought, well,
maybe we're gonna get like an interesting and episodic series
where perhaps we can even have different seasons, be different generations.
And then with it being said worded as like the
history of penny Wise, I thought, I know, it's not
really going to be the history of penny Wise, because
(32:21):
that is not interesting at all. It's got to be
the interest. It's got to be the story about the
people who are affected by penny Wise. Because if it's
just the history of Pennywise, I'm like, forget it. I
don't want to see it. I mean, it might be
it might make him like a maleficit level sympathetic character
who he's just a monster that feeds on fear and
(32:43):
and terrorizes children literally to death. But he's misunderstood. That's
the scariest story of all. All right, moving on until
we get back to your mashup, Jonathan, which thank you,
spiel Steven Spielberg recently said that he does not um
or the Ashanta Post that he resents the streaming strategy
(33:04):
that Warner Brothers did during the pandemic. Yeah. Yeah, So specifically,
he was referencing how when the pandemic set in, Warner
Brothers made that big announcement that all the films that
it was releasing fore we're going to be released day
and date in the theaters and on streaming. And Spielbrigg's
(33:25):
point was that filmmakers create films for the big screen,
gosh darnet, and that they shouldn't be forced to compromise
their vision by having it scrammed onto a teeny tiny
television screen, because that's just not that's just not right,
That's not the way it was intended. And gosh darn
ittt people should feel great about gathering together in a
(33:48):
big dark room and all having a communal experience during
a pandemic where a respiratory illness can quickly spread through
a group of people. Um. Yeah, you might be able
to detect from my tone that I respectfully disagree with
(34:09):
Mr Spielberg. I acknowledge that it's kind of crappy for
a filmmaker who was planning on people consuming their work
on the big screen find out that instead people are
watching it on TV. I get that that's disappointing. I
don't think that that Trump's people not dying. Yeah, I
(34:32):
mean I agree, Um, the pandemic was crappy for a
lot of people. Man, we've got a lot of stories, Jonathan.
We might need to pick it up if we also
want to get to your mashup and not keep people
on for two hours. Yeah, and by people, she means herself,
because time is ticking, all right, we're gonna go through
next up. We got quick reaction for the trailer for
(34:53):
john Wick four. It got released. We got to see
a little bit more, not a whole lot about the story,
mostly you know, cool action shots and somewhat vague talk
about being at the table and stuff like that. I
find the lore of the John Wick series to get
increasingly ridiculous with each episode, um to the point where
(35:16):
I think everyone in that world now is an assassin.
So yeah, Well, Also it's confusing because like in the trailer,
he's like, They're like, if we have family at the table,
you can get out. I'm like, wasn't that the story
of like two or three are or even one even Yeah,
(35:37):
it looks like more of the same. So if you
really like the John Wick movies, then you know you're
probably gonna enjoy this. I personally, I think they're fine.
I think they're they're The action scenes are entertaining to watch.
I don't understand how two trained assassins who are supposedly
at the top of their game can stand six ft
apart from each other firing handguns at one another while
(35:59):
also holding melee weapons and not hit anything. I don't
understand how that happens. Bullet bending it must be. Yeah,
they're they're doing what was that movie with Angelina Jolie
where you did bend the bullet? But no, never mind,
I mean I remember what I don't remember. Yeah, I
don't remember either, like had like a one word name
(36:20):
like wanted or something. All right, Well, tell me Ariel
about Magic Girl Shakespeare. Okay, so Magic Girl Shakespeare. Well
that's not the name of the game. I don't think. No,
it's not. The game is called this Way Madness Lies.
It's an indie game that is a bunch of um
high school girls putting on drama that occasionally have to
(36:41):
jump into Shakespeare plays to fight the forces of evil.
So your magic girls and you put on plays and
you fight evil and it kind of looks like Pokemon
kind of ish turn based fighting from the screenshots, but
the review I've read about it says that it's pretty
good at like giving you um interesting fighting opportunities while
(37:05):
still letting you feel like you're part of the world
and exploring the world. And it's not just one or
the other, So it sounds like it's pretty well balanced. Interesting. Yeah,
this was one of those news stories that I accidentally
did not look at before we started recording, so I
literally only had the headline to go from, and I
was like, what the heck is a Magic Girl Shakespeare
(37:27):
fighting game? But now you're on to download and play it,
aren't you. Well yeah, I mean it sounds like it's
totally my bag. You want to be a magic Shakespeare Girl. Yes,
we have a couple of sad stories to conclude this
episode before we go into our mash up. One is
that Kevin Conroy, the actor who, perhaps to our listeners,
(37:48):
might be best known as the actor who lent his
voice as Batman for countless incarnations of the Batman character,
and like animation and in games and stuff has passed away,
so that's very sad. And another Kevin, Kevin O'Neill, who
co created The League of Extraordinary Gentleman with Alan Moore,
(38:12):
has also passed away. So two important Kevin's in the
geek sphere have have passed on. Well, isn't Leak of
Extraordinary Gentleman also d C? Yeah, technically it is. Yeah,
it was. I forget what the name of the the
branch of d C that it fell under, but yeah,
(38:34):
so yeah, it's a sad day for DC. Kevin Conroy
was like, I like, leave Extraordinary Gentleman. I haven't read
a whole lot of it in the movies have just
been okay, um, but I appreciate what like the use
of classic monsters. Kevin Conroy was my Batman. He was
my favorite batman. I'll say this areal like the League
of Extraordinary Gentleman. If anyone out there is interested in
(38:56):
reading those graphic novels, just know that the the key
phrase in that is graphic, because joy howdy, there are
some really rough things that happened in those stories. And uh,
I've read it and kind of think like I would
(39:17):
have been just fine, not having read it, particularly when
you get to Dr Jekyll, Mr. Hyde, It's it's rough,
so um so, so just be aware. But yeah, um yeah,
I mean, like I said, I like classical monsters. I'm
glad to know that it's rough. The movie wasn't rough.
I guess the little bit I've read wasn't rough. The
(39:38):
movie was ridiculous. It was the little with Sean Connery.
All right, speaking of ridiculous, Yeah, we haven't done a
mashup in a little bit, and I just thought I would.
I had a little extra time on my hands, so
and I had the creative bug bite me. So I
asked Ariel if I could do one, and she said yes.
So I took two properties to mash together. That's what
(40:00):
we do. We take two unrelated things and then say
what would happen if you combine them? And you might
remember we were talking previously about a series called Pennyworth
The Origins of Batman's Butler, which just got that subtitle
this most recent season. It had had two seasons on
a little watch network called Epics E p I X,
(40:24):
and now has moved to HBO Max. And of course
it follows the history of Alfred Pennyworth, the man who
would become Thomas Wayne's butler and kind of the man
behind the keyboard for Bruce Wayne as Batman. And this
particular incarnation is supposed to be the historical version of
(40:47):
the one that showed up in the series Gotham, which
I could not stand that series. So but anyway, that's
one and the other. Because we were talking about the
the Dairy series of the background on penny Wise, I thought, well,
we got Alfred Pennyworth. What happens if I combined that
with penny Wise the clown? And so those are the
(41:10):
two properties I've decided to put together for my mashup. Yeah.
So also when Jonathan asked me if he could do
a mashup, and I said, yeah, I won't have time.
I do want to write more mashups, you guys, because
I love doing that too. I just it's it's been
a couple of a couple of crazy months for me.
But but I said, yes, of course you should write
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a mash up. In fact, you should. It is penance
you have to pay for sorely misjudging. Are the number
of our audience? Oh right? Yeah? Because I found out
that we had h I was just off by a
couple of zeros. Yeah, we have more like four hundred
other than four. So okay, all right, But here's my
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here's my mashup is called Pennywise, the terrifying story of
Batman's butler, Bruce Wayne has a problem. Actually, he has
a bunch of them. For example, and I don't know
if you know this, but when Bruce was a kid,
his parents were killed during a robbery attempt in a
place called crime Alley. And you might say, wow, I
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don't want to victim blame, but maybe it's a bad
idea to take a shortcut down a lane called crime Alley,
particularly if you're dressed in a lot of rich folks stuff.
And sure, their judgment was at best questionable, but the
real blame still has to go to the guy who
actually attacked them, Joe Chill or the joker whoever. I'm
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not sure in this particular fiction who it was. Anyway,
that's not the problem. Also, as a consequence, Bruce develops
this deep need to seek vengeance on the criminal element
in Gotham City, which is, by the way, where we are.
If I got to mention that we're in Gotham, so
it's crime Alley that's in Gotham City. And when names
like these, it's just a matter of time before we
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get to murder Boulevard or or it sure would be
a shame if something happened to your Kneecaps Avenue. But
that's not even the problem I'm talking about, Nor is
the problem of Bruce figuring out how to scare criminals
so that they don't, you know, immediately murder him to death.
He figures out that by dressing up like a bat
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he could scare bad guys, But really he could have
dressed up like anything, because I submit to you that
a grown ass man dressed as any kind of animal,
running and punching and kicking at you is gonna make
you just have your tummy clinch in fear. No, Bruce
Wayne's current problem, the one that pertains to our story,
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is his butler, Alfred Pennywise. He's been in the family
for generations, or at least one Bruce's parents, Thomas, And
why did you say Martha hired Pennywise something like twenty
six years ago. Oh, and this version of the story,
we're gonna say that Bruce Wayne is like which is
young vera batman's story? But I need it for the
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man to work out anyway. For some reason, Alfred is
looking a little bit different from his normal self. For
all of Bruce's life, which again is twenty five years,
this is important. Alfred has just been a kind of
boring old English guy. Sure, there were hints of a
more dramatic past that Alfred may at one point and
belonged to the Special Air Services of Britain, becoming a
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decorated Special Forces soldier and leader a paramilitary security expert. Also,
he might have crossed paths with an anarchist wearing a
guy Fox mask at some point. But honestly, I'm not
caught up with Pennyworth, so I don't know if that's
really developed yet. But now Pennywise seems a bit more eccentric.
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For one thing, he's about a foot taller. He has
a bulbous head with fluffy red hair all around it.
One of his eyes goes all funny, so it's hard
to know which one's looking at you. And he drools
a lot. I mean, he drew it a lot before,
but now his mouth is all fangy. Oh and he's
also no longer in his butler uniform. Instead, he wears
a clown suit. It's a dramatic enough departure from his
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normal appearance that even Bruce notices one morning when Pennywise
brings him his breakfast, which, once Bruce lifts the close,
appears to be a red helium balloon that immediately floats
to the ceiling. Bruce decides it's time to dive into this,
so Alfred, he says, how are things now? At this point,
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Alfred smiles an impossibly wide smile, and he opens his mouth,
whereupon the top of his head flips back in this
intense light begins to shine out, and then he starts
to sound like Tim Curry as this voice just comes
out of him, saying, we all float down here. Huh,
says Bruce Wayne, who gets up and casually strolls to
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the bat Cave. There, Bruce Wayne does a little research,
by which I mean googling, because let's face it, no
recent depiction of Batman outside of the comics has managed
to show him as an actual detective. And there he
finds out that twenty seven years ago, one year before
Thomas Wayne hired Alfred, there was this problem in Gotham
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where all these kids went missing, including Bruce's older sibling,
who might have been a brother or a sister, depending
on if you're reading the comics or watching the Pennyworth
TV show. And Bruce starts researching more, by which I
mean he goes to a few Wikipedia articles, and he
figures out that the timeline of Pennywise joining the Wayne
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household came right after all these mysterious disappearances because he
does the math, and then he figures that the correlation
is the same thing as causation. Everybody knows that it's
because he's a really bad detective. Hey, Alfred, says Bruce.
Do you have like this crazy cycle that happens every
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twenty seven years where you become a hideous monster that
preys upon children because they feel you're more intensely than adults.
And Alfred is like, yes, sorry about that, Master Waine.
That does tend to happen. And my father hired you anyway,
says Bruce. Honestly it didn't come up in the interview,
says Alfred. And then Bruce is like, look, I can't
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have my butler terrorizing children unless they are villains. If
if they are children and villains, I guess it's okay
to scare them, because that's kind of my thing when
I go after villains, because they are superstitious, cowardly lot.
But I think that's the only exception I can make.
I understand, Master Wayne, Shall I hand in my notice?
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Says Alfred. How long does this crazy cycle last? Asks Bruce.
About ye Masta Wayne, says Alfred. All right, how about
you take a year, hiatus. I'm sure I can figure
out how to put on my pants before a year
is out, says Bruce. Thank you, masta wine. And you
aren't going to come off to me, asks Alfred. Oh no, no, no,
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no no, you already have a clown arch nemesis. I
can't risk being redundant. Already have to explain my backstory
in every single incarnation, and so I'm on thin ice already,
says Bruce. Very good, must wine, says Alfred, before I go.
Do you know what? We fall? Musta Wayne, so that
we can get back up again, says Bruce. No, so
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we can float. We all float down here, says Alfred,
who begins to laugh maniacally credits. I absolutely loved it.
Your will our net Batman was spot on, and your
Bill Scarce guard anywise was no it was more of
the Tim Curry Pennywise. It was great. It wasn't I was.
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I was searching rouugh for Michael Caine, but I was like,
unless I say my Cocaine and Michelcaine, I can't really
get it. Oh no, like you're your Alfred was great.
It was just when it when it went into penny Wise,
because it was a mix of Alfred and penny Wise,
which again spot on. It almost sounded a little Sea
captain e, which I was delightful. Now that it was delightful. Uh,
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scary clowns and all. I love that. Thank you see
in my bash up. It's good. I didn't write one
because it would just be, uh, Pennywise shows up at
the Wayne manner Or and Pennyworth just goes nope and
closes the door. Yeah, because I thought about putting Pennywise
into the story of penny Worth, but then I thought
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this is going to require me to watch some episodes
of Pennyworth and I don't have that kind of time,
so I have not done that yet. I did read
a synopsis of the stuff that's going on, and I
was surprised to find that um that according to the
wikis anyway, that the series Pennyworth has within it elements
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that hint that the Britain you see in Pennyworth is
the one that evolves into the Britain that's in V
for Vendetta. Oh interesting, Yeah, which is why I had
the whole thing about Guy Fox Mask, because apparently Pennyworth
is active during the time where there's this fascist faction
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in the UK that's attempting to get power, and assuming
that it becomes the V for Vendetta universe, they eventually succeed.
I that almost makes me interested in watching same. Yeah,
which in V for Vendetta that's another Alan Moore connection,
Alan Moore being the co creator of League of Extraordinary Gentlemen.
So it all comes back around the geek sphere ends
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up having you know, one degree of separation from everything else.
So pretty interesting, Pretty interesting. Well, if you thought that
was interesting, or you have any interesting facts you'd like
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I will say there are there are a few episodes
that did not make it on there. Um, but I'm
going to be better about it. That is my commitment
to you. Yeah, I handed that over to her because
I was really bad about it. But until next time,
I'm Jonathan crying on the inside kind I guess Strickland,
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and I am Ariel hiding behind a shiny red balloon.
Cast in the large Nerdron Collider was created by Ariel
Caston and produced, edited, published, deleted, undeleted, published again. Curse
That by Jonathan Strickland. Music by Kevin McLeod having comptech
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