Deconstructing the New DCU

Peter Safran and James Gunn outlined their initial plans for the new DCU, and we have thoughts about it. We talk about what we're excited about, what we're concerned about and some stuff that just gosh darn confuses us. Plus, we talk about some movie trailers, gush about The Last of Us some more, and find out what happens when you let an AI write Seinfeld jokes.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:13):
Hey, everybody, Welcome to the Large nor John Collider Podcast,
the podcast that's all about the geeky stuff happening in
the world around us and how very excited we are
about it. I'm aerial casting and with me as always
is the has watched so much television person Jonathan Strickman
ba bae bump bump bump. All right, I don't catch

(00:37):
your reference. Okay, that's fine. It was off it was
off key, so, uh, it will be explained when we
get to the what we have been watching section. Okay,
now I get your reference, but we'll explain it later.
Great listening for all our listeners. Um. Yeah, Jonathan spent
the week catching up on a lot of geek media.

(00:58):
Ye did a lot less so but that's totally okay.
We can totally take turns um and Yeah. So we've
got a lot to talk about today, but we we
need to start off with a couple of of sad

(01:19):
bits of news people that we lost, people who were
important in the geek sphere. A couple of actors who
have recently passed away. Yeah, and the first is Lisa Loring. Uh.
You probably know her best as the original Wednesday from
the Old Old Adams Family show from six the New Wednesday.

(01:44):
If you've been watching the Netflix television show Wednesday, uh totally.
Um mirrored some of her dance in one of the
episodes off of Lisa Loring's Wednesday Dancing in the original series.
She passed away from a stroke. She was with her family,
and our thoughts go out to her family, yes, as

(02:07):
as our thoughts also go out to the family of
Annie Worshing. She was an actor who was in lots
of geeky properties. So she appeared in the Vampire Diaries,
you know, she was in Star Trek Enterprise for those
of you who remember that series. She had appearances in Supernatural,

(02:30):
she was in Charmed, She was in twenty four, which
I know gets a little more into the hardcore action
as opposed to geekiness. But she also definitely had a
geek following though. Oh it did. I mean, if you
were like me and you were I was like hooked
on twenty four. It was I didn't watch a single
episode until it was five seasons en and then I

(02:52):
watched one episode of like season five, I think it
was season five. Um, I watched one episode. I think
they had two episodes back back, so technically. Uh, my
partner and I we watched the first two episodes and
we were like, oh man, now we have to watch
the whole darn thing. Um. And she appeared in that series.

(03:12):
She also served as the voice actor who did the
character tests in the video game version of the Last
of Us. She was diagnosed with cancer a few years ago,
and we're very sad to have heard of her passing.
And she leaves behind the husband and children, and uh,

(03:33):
there's even a go fund Me page that was set
up to help kind of help with the burdens that
family is currently going through, so you can look that
up if you are interested. Very sad. She did great
work and seemed, from everything I've heard, to have been
a genuinely good person. Yeah. And and before you go,

(03:53):
why does a family need go fund me? When? When?
If if the person who passed away was a television
an actor, A lot of actors don't make that much money, um,
especially depending on where they live, uh and how often
they get gigs. So you know, yeah, I mean like,
it's it's easy for us to fall into that trap

(04:14):
where we just associate TV or even film actor as
being incredibly successful and financially well off, and that's not
always the case. Uh. It's the case for a very select,
lucky and talented few, but for many, many others. I mean,

(04:36):
you know, when we say working actor, often we're talking
about people who are working and they're like, when they're
not on screen, they are hustling to get that next
gig because that's how they pay their bills. Yeah, I mean,
if you think about it, especially with inflation inflation, I
haven't looked at the sad grades lately, um, but you know,
they vary depending on what you do. But if you're

(04:57):
a part of the union or you're working on a union,
because most film and television that hits major networks falls
into that, you know you're you're looking at making around
a thousand dollars a day maybe over time if you
go over you're eight or ten hours, I don't remember
which it is. But um, and you go a thousand
dollars a day, that's a lot. But if you figure

(05:18):
you only get one gig, like if you've got one
line and you're doing one day of a TV show
and you only get that like once a month, twice
a month, that that doesn't pay your bills. I know
we've gone through this before, but it's it's a sticking point.
I've had very um, very not not to go off
on a tangent based on somebody's loss, but I think

(05:39):
it's it's important I had my family has been very
supportive of my journey as a creator and entertainer and actor.
But I've heard so many times you know, these people
get overpaid. And yes, there are people who do get
overpaid in the entertainment industry, in the sports industry, but
you have to think about all of the work they
put in behind the scenes, off the clock, how often

(06:00):
they get work, what their cost of living is where
they are. There was a Cosby actor who ended up
working in a grocery store because he couldn't pay his
bills anymore. So well, and and and also there's like
when you get to a certain level, like you're talking
prestige level actor, where you know you are talking about
those huge pay days, then you're starting to have a

(06:23):
conversation about how that actors following how that actor's own
reputation and people's associations with that actor end up playing
a part in selling tickets to the film. Right, So,
then like you get to a level where it is
I mean, I think it's always going to be difficult

(06:43):
for you to say, yeah, Robert Downey Jr. Deserves fifty
million dollars. It's hard to get to that point, Like
there is like a point where there's a a leap
that's too big for me to make. But you could
also say yeah, but if the person is the primary
reason why people are going to see the film, then

(07:04):
that does I mean, that has real value to it.
It just gets to a point where, like I think,
it gets ridiculous once you get to a tipping point. However,
for the vast majority of actors out there, they are
never going to see that as a reality. If they
are fortunate they can make a living on their art. Yes,
and and once you've done enough work, you can ask

(07:25):
for above scale and make more than that. But again,
it's it's a it's a journey. Um. You know, I'm
glad that they set up a go fund me for
Annie's family. Um. And I think we, while we don't
always cover celebrity and entertainment and geek deaths to these
two are especially poignant right now because of the popularity
of Wednesday and Last of Us. Yes, yes, we we

(07:47):
felt like though Neither of those properties would have even
existed without the work of these women, so we definitely
wanted to acknowledge them and to send our our best
wishes to their families and friends. Yes, um, and now
we're going to go into something a little bit. I
hope upbeat is the right word for it. I don't

(08:08):
know based on our first story, but we're going to
go into our thirty seconds and less or less, which
is really less less. You're going to get less of
a of a of a commitment for us to stick
to thirty seconds. Yes, all right, And the first story

(08:29):
is is that we've got a So there's a whole
bunch of d C news we're going to get into.
But one of the lesser pieces of DC news is
that we're getting The Batman Part two. And yes, that
is the official name of the of the Robert Pattinson
Batman sequel, The Batman Part Two. It's coming out in October.
In October. Um, we'll get into it a bit more,

(08:54):
but this is not going to be our mainstream Batman
in the d C u UM, but enough people liked
it that they're they're keeping forward with it. I think
they've got a really cool idea for for that. So yeah, uh,
next up, I have a little bit this one I
like a lot. I'm gonna go so disney Land Paris,

(09:14):
which I have been to once and really thought was
very pretty. Not as much to do there as I've figured,
but one thing that there is to do now is
a nighttime show called Avengers Power the Night and it's
heart projection. They project on the side of the Tower
of Terror, part pyrotechnics and part drone show where they

(09:34):
used drones with lights on them to create different shapes
in the sky, including Jolnir or Mew Mew and Captain
America Shield and it looks awesome. Yeah. The picture in
the article you linked has Meumeu hitting the Tower of
Terror and it's hilarious. Yeah. There's also another picture that
shows the the circle of sparking light that the Sorcerers

(09:57):
are able to create, like like doctor Strange. Yeah, interesting stuff.
I wish I could see this, but I don't currently
have plans to go back to the Sea Land Paris
anytime soon. Fair point. Uh all right, My next three
seconds are less is that there is a Rogue Light
action RPG coming out that I feel like it's made
specifically for Jonathan. It's called The Night Versus Giant, or

(10:20):
not good Night Versusant Knight Versus Giant, The Broken ex Caliber. Uh,
it's about King Arthur trying to restore Camelot after a
monster has pulled out the Holy Grail. It's coming to
Nintendo Switch, Police Station five, Xbox Series Excess and Steve.
That sounds cool. Uh. I had not heard of this
until you put in our show notes. So, uh, it

(10:43):
does totally sound like it's right up my alley. I'll
tell you this. If you want a rogue light, um,
you should, and you you want to get into it
and find out what what a good one is all about. Hades.
Oh my gosh, that is such a good game. It's
it's the Schnexi rogue Light because every he's attractive. Everybody
is so hot. Everyone is so so hot in Hades. Um. Yeah,

(11:11):
and not because of the fire. Yeah, that's the well.
I mean it doesn't hurt, but uh yeah, you can
got a hot grandma in there. Yeah, I said it. Okay,
So I'm going on to my next one and here
I go. So we're getting another Futurama reboot. We talked
about this before and now we have a little bit

(11:33):
better idea of when we can expect to see it
because Uh, Lauren tom who is the voice actress who
does the voice for any Wong in the series, was
asked about that after she appeared with the other Futurama
cast members at sketch Fest, and she said to expect
it this summer. We don't really have any more details.
We know there's gonna be twenty episodes, but that's about it. Yeah,

(11:56):
she's She's also going to be in the revival of
King of the which we're getting. Um, I believe she's
going to be in it, Yes, she is. Uh, it's
coming to Hulu. Honestly, I just started watching King of
a Hill. I had never I didn't watch it in
a tay day. Um. It's surprisingly endearing and I don't

(12:17):
know if it would fit today's sensibilities, but I'm honestly
interested to see what they do at the show me too.
One of my favorite lines from cartoons ever comes from
the King of the Hill episode where they've put Bobby
on uh, some medication for a d h D. He's
just sitting at the kitchen table staring into nothing, and

(12:39):
then he says, there's some milk in the fridge. That's
about to go bad, and there it goes. I just
watched that episode last night. That that one made me
laugh so like, that was the Bobby line beyond all
other Bobby lines that made me laugh so hard. I mean,
I think I missed the next like five seconds of

(13:01):
the show because I was just like, what a great
absurd set up. Yeah, and you know, I'm not a
fan of ugly cartoons. I definitely didn't like Beavis and
butt Head, which is the creative team behind King of
the Hill, at least one of them is um. And
but this show, it's it's a loving family. UM, it's
delightful and yeah, I just I'm surprised I like it

(13:25):
so much. Um it's really made a resurgence, uh with
gen Z with the I don't know that's my purse,
I don't know. You quote that's from King of the Hill.
If you've heard that quote but you don't know what
it's from, you know, But this show is from the
nineties and early thousands, so I believe. Yeah, yeah, all right,
Well here's my next one. So you remember everything everywhere

(13:49):
all at once, Well, if you turn that upside down,
maybe then it becomes nobody, nothing, nowhere. Uh, this is
actually stop. I only have thirty seconds. There's a sci
fi comedy premise. Uh, that's very high concept premise where
you've got one person who's an actual person and the
rest of the world is populated by non people. But

(14:10):
the non people start to have people desires. And it
kind of makes me think of, um, that Ryan Reynolds movie.
What was the one where he was an NPC. Oh,
free guy, free guy, free guy. It reminds me a
free guy mixed with the Truman Show. Interesting. Interesting, I am.

(14:31):
I'm interested in that. I still need to watch everything everywhere,
all at once. I meant to do it this pecial.
You know what didn't happened. I didn't even say who
was in it. I got thrown off. Somebody interrupted me.
The people the people who are going to be in
it include Octavia Spencer, Joseph Gordon Levitt, and Lucy lou
And uh, yeah, I'm really I'm really already intrigued by

(14:51):
this and I want to I first I wanted to
be really good, and then I want to watch it. Yeah, yeah,
I will watch it too. You I have to have
to catch up on so much, and I also have
to catch up on Doom before the next season, and
that's gonna happen probably next week. Uh. But also you
said if you turn everything everywhere, all at once upside down,

(15:12):
it would turn into no, nobody, nothing nowhere, But it
turns into uh, I'm flipping it and turning it upside down.
So eck no to la goodness given give you an
inch to swim all over me. Oh oh, Jonathan gotta

(15:34):
go quote Little Mermaid at me. Well, sorry about that, Audriel. Uh,
let's let's talk. Let's talk. We're saucy today. Let's talk
about let's talk about some of the stuff we saw. No. Now,
Ariel mentioned she did not have an opportunity to watch
as much because she's very, very busy. I had auditions, y'all. Yeah, yeah,

(15:56):
you did get. You did get at least a little
bit into the second episode of The Last of Us
you mentioned I did. I am really enjoying it. I
won't say it's an easy watch, but it's a fun
funnest a wrong word. No, it's easy to watch. It's
a hard show, but it's easy to watch. Um. I'll
say this that episode two did not have the same

(16:19):
impact on me that episode one I enjoyed it. I
thought it was a good episode. I did not feel
destroyed by episode two the way I did with episode one.
But that's okay because episode three justice it looked at
episode one and said here hold my beer, and then
episode like I'm still thinking about episode three, and y'all,

(16:39):
I watched that Sunday night, like this is. It's almost
a full week after I've seen it, and I've been
thinking about it all week long. It was one of
my favorite, one of my favorite television episodes I've seen
in memory. And also it joins a very short list
of television episodes I don't think I'm ever going to

(17:02):
watch again because the first experience was so special that
there's no way to relive that. So everybody I know
who's who has seen episode three has said that, which
I think is rather fantastic. You know, if you're going
to put that much budget into a TV show, it
better be good, and so many high budget television shows

(17:23):
are just okay, um uh. But it is interesting to
me because after you watched the first episode, you said
you weren't you weren't sure you would be able to
keep up with this episode. And despite the third episode,
wrecking you. When you told me it did, I said,
are you gonna be able to keep watching? You're like, oh, absolutely, absolutely, yes, Well,
and it's I don't want to spoil anything, because it's

(17:44):
spoiling episode three would be a crime. I think people
need to I think people need to discover that and
truly experience it for the first time by watching it.
Don't don't watch a review, don't read a synopsis. Watched
the episode and it is tragic, but it's also equally beautiful.

(18:08):
And that's the difference between episode three and episode one.
Episode one is tragic and ugly. Episode three is tragic
but beautiful, and I think that is the thing that
that ultimately, Yes, I was sobbing. I mean, I'm not
ashamed to say it. I'm a sap. I cry it everything.

(18:29):
I I'm a punk rocker with tattoos who cries at
the drop of a hat, and I'm okay with that. Um.
Episode three had me literally like racking sobs, and uh,
I mean I tear up just thinking about right now.
I told you I thinking about all week and um.
But but I ultimately at the end of it, it's

(18:50):
like heartbreak and then feeling like that was the right
way for that show to go, and it's so effort
from the game. The game version is also great. Don't
get me wrong. I don't think that the TV show
is fundamentally better than the way the game did it.

(19:10):
It's fundamentally different. And that's okay, hmm yeah, yeah, which
I'm glad because now maybe I can also convince my
partner to watch it with me, because he doesn't want
to watch it until he's played the video game. And
I don't know that he's ever going to play the
video game because he got a PS five and bought
Last of Us right around the time that the pandemic

(19:32):
really got going. Yeah yeah, and then it then it
feels like it's a little two on the nose. Yeah yeah,
it is interesting. I saw on TikTok this this person
who's who's a fun fun guy? Is he a fun guy?
She is a fungy expert. She she is fun, she's

(19:53):
fun to watch talking about how people are like, could
these mushrooms that infect like bugs also infect us in
r a US into zombies? She's like, no, you gotta
stop hating well and and like in the in the
first episode, they explained that like in the very first episode,
there's that that uh cold open where they talk about
how the Court of Steps could not survive in a

(20:15):
human host. But then the hypothesis that is put forward
is should the earth continue to warm and if the
Court of Steps were to evolve in order to survive
in a warmer world, then potentially you could get to
a point where they couldn't Like, that's interesting. I don't.

(20:36):
I don't think it would happen that quickly, but it
isn't interesting hypothesis. Are our bodies are so much more
complex than any book body? Um? I mean I've met
a few people where I think that might not be true.
Exceptions aside, it would still be like there would have
to be so much evolution and adaptation. Yeah, for are

(20:57):
also simple. It's simple organisms, right, So yeah, yeah, that's true.
I mean like, yeah, I mean a few of a few,
a few folks that I know personally. Aside, I think
most people are more complicated than your typical aunt. Uh.
On top of the on top of last of us,
and I saw I finally saw violent night. So I

(21:20):
caught up with Ariel, and as we both suspected, I
fell somewhere in between Ariel, who did not really like
Violent Night. And our friend of the show, Shay, who
really loved Violent Night. I was kind of like it
was entertaining. I didn't think it was the greatest thing,
but I didn't hate it either. So um and David
Harbor was I enjoyed his performance. But the more I

(21:43):
thought about the more I was like, I've got a
lot of I've got a lot of notes for this movie,
things that I wish had been a little different than
I think would have made the movie more enjoyable for me.
But then they didn't make it for me. So where
do I Where do I come out saying, hey, do
it better? Um? I also saw I'm caught up with Velma. Sorry,

(22:06):
I think I might be hate watching it. I don't
want to. I don't like the idea of hate watch
I'm watching it because I keep wanting it to be better,
and it it just I don't know who the show
is for. It's for the people who wrote the show. Jonathan.
I mean, if you if you watch Pitch Meeting, that's

(22:27):
exactly what he says. I like, it's like I think
I said this last week. It reads is somebody who
thinks they're jokes are so funny. That nobody gets them
and they have to immediately explain them all except for
explaining jokes doesn't work and unless you're a very specific
kind of comedian, and also the jokes aren't funny. I mean, yeah,

(22:47):
mel Brooks is someone I absolutely adore as a filmmaker,
but whenever he does the whole joke explaining thing, I
despise it. Uh. I also think that he the writer's
are feeling like they're being edgy and uh. And I
don't want to use the word woke because everyone uses

(23:09):
it and a lot of people use it as a
derogatory term. I feel like they're trying to make a
lot of statements and all they're trying to have their
cake and eat it too. That's what I want to say.
They're trying to both uh poke fun at certain society
thoughts and practices and then also indulge in them at

(23:31):
the same time. And that really irritates me because I'm like,
you can't have it both ways. You can't be guilty
of the thing that you're criticizing and just by pointing
it out, say see it makes it okay when we
do it. That doesn't work. Yeah, yeah, but then you
also watch some better stuff like night Court. Okay you
say better, Um, we wouldn't. We wouldn't to mention that

(23:57):
Night Court has already been renewed for a second season,
which is like, usually when you hear something this earlier,
it's that a show gets canceled, not that a show
is gonna get another season. Um, but yeah, they're They've
only had like, what four episodes come out already and
they're already renewed. I'm honestly surprised. Yeah, me too, because
I watched the first one and I'm like, this is

(24:19):
not good. Um, like it was, I could see where
they were going, but like it's it felt to me
like one of those shows where if you stripped the
laughter out of the actual episode, it would just feel
kind of depressing, like like there was not anything there
where I felt the laughs were justified. We're gonna have
a story at the end of this episode where we're

(24:40):
going to talk about something that has its own artificial
laugh track in it that comes in at inappropriate times,
and how that is weird. That's kind of how I
felt this show was. I was like, why why is
there laughter at that line? That's not a very funny
line at all. But I will say the episodes get better,
Like the most recent one, I felt, while not being

(25:04):
great TV, was at least a decent sitcom episode, although
it feels very much like a nineties era Like it
feels like it feels like the nineties era night court
type stuff where it's kind of corny and characters are
very very broad and shallow at the same time, and

(25:28):
it's weird to see it. Is it is? I mean,
it just means that, like the emotional connection doesn't really happen,
but it's also light and and potato chippy and and fun.
You also tried to watch a couple of other things
this week. Yeah, I tried to watch Sick, which we
talked about not that long ago. So I guess this

(25:49):
is my way of saying, hey, I got Peacock, Hey
I subscribe. I had a deal like it was like
twenty bucks for the year, and I'm like twenty bucks
for the okay, so I would and signed up. Um,
and I just started watching stuff and Sick was on there,
and we had talked about that. That's the one that
was set in April, so right as uh states were

(26:14):
going into actual lockdowns and stuff, and two young women
go to a cabin. Uh. Not a cabin, it's a
freaking enormous lodge, a mansion uh that one of the
young women like her family owns, and then they're stalked
by a killer. I watched about probably about a third

(26:35):
of it, and it introduced a character that I found
so so irritating. I was like, no, no, I'm not
gonna watch any more of this, and then I just
turned it off and I read the synopsis. Gotcha, and
you also watched a little bit of poker Face. You
know you bought peacocks. But we're also going to have
to watch some Apple stuff real soon. I know. Well,

(26:57):
I'm gonna have to talk to you offline about that
because as I went through my email and I didn't
actually have the little I have the email, but not
the link that I will get it to you. Okay,
But the the poker Face, I like a lot of
people are saying they're they're comparing it to say Colombo.
I think that's a pretty fair comparison. I will say

(27:18):
that if Natasha Leone shows up in your neighborhood and
she tries to make friends with you, you should probably
run because that that things don't turn out well for
people who get close to her character in this series.
But uh, she's very, very entertaining in it. She's playing
a really interesting character. The gimmick is fun where she
she can detect if someone's telling a lie. Um, yeah,

(27:41):
I think it's uh, I think it's worth watching. I
will say it's a little it's got a little nastier
edge than some other mysteries I've seen recently. Yeah, and
you said episode three had some animal endangerment stuff. I think,
oh no, outright animal cruelty is in episode three. Um noting.
I'll say it to this way. If you were to
check the website, does the dog die in the end,

(28:03):
it would say no, So the dog does not die,
but for a while a little worse, well, for a
while you're led to believe that that the dog did
not survive. So okay, speaking of things that people are
led to believe won't survive or will, I mean, that's

(28:24):
that's that's apt. Honestly, let's talk about d C. Yeah,
so clearly, you know, we talked a lot towards the
end of last year in the beginning of this year
about how with Peter Saffron and James Gunn taking over
the d C Cinematic Universe over at Warner Brothers Discovery.

(28:45):
How that was gonna be a big change. Ariel already
alluded to that a little bit with The Batman too. Batman,
those films are now going to be essentially classified as
else Worlds titles, else Worlds being this kind of offshoot
of d C titles that are not part of the

(29:08):
official d C timeline. So Joker will also fall into that,
Which is funny that they have to start rail the
bat with the exceptions, right, Like that's crazy, Like the
stuff we're getting that we know about a lot that's
coming out, are the exceptions to the rule of Mike Well,
that just shows you how messy DCS approach to film

(29:30):
and TV series already was. Yeah, I will say sadly,
you know we said this last week. Do Patrol and
Titans don't fall into that? On the one hand, maybe
I'll get to play somebody from one of those franchises
in the future, but um, yeah it. I guess there's
just so much call for the very very dark The Batman,

(29:52):
in the very very the dark The Joker that they
had to keep with it. But I'm glad that our mainstream,
main Batman will not be the same Batman. Yeah, I'm
waiting any day to find out who will be Batman. Uh,
it's really just kind of a throw the dart at
the dark board at this point. I guess really what
they'll do is they'll just walk into one of those

(30:13):
awards shows, look at all the guys in there, and say, okay,
raise your hand. If you haven't been Batman yet, I
need to be Batman. I could be Batman. You Batman? Okay,
all right, Well, we do know, we do know several
of the planned projects that are to be part of
the early phase of this DC, this new DC rollout,

(30:36):
one of which, let's see where you've got the seven
episode animated series called Creature Commandos, and Creature Creature Commandos
is kind of a cool product. It's something that you
I didn't think we would ever get as part of
the DC universe. Yeah, it's Classics Monster originally was a
team of classic monsters assembled to fight Nazis, which is

(30:58):
I guess kind of suicide squad ish um. But they're
putting a modern take on it, and I think the
really cool. It's already in production. It's written by James
Gunn and I think the really cool thing about it
is that they're looking for voice actors who can also
play those characters once those characters go live action, And
I think that is really cool because so often that

(31:20):
doesn't happen. Yeah. Uh. We're also supposed to get a
spin off of the Suicide Squad and Peacemaker called Waller,
named after Amanda Waller, the the character played by Viola Davis,
who is the government official who has no morals whatsoever,

(31:40):
will do anything to get the job done, and has
no hesitation and killing her very own soldiers. Um so, boy,
you really want her in charge? Anyway, It's gonna have
a series of her. I bet it'll be fun and
fuzzy and warm and friendly. Listen. If you had said
this is what you're getting for d C, I probably

(32:01):
wouldn't have said that I was excited about watching it.
But it is being written by Crystal Henry, who wrote Watchman,
which is one of my favorite HBO shows of all time,
even though I didn't like the Watchman movie, and Jeremy Carver,
the creator of Doom Patrol, which is one of my
favorite HBO TV series. So while it feels a little

(32:22):
darker and more grim than maybe a show that i'd
want with that like Power Team behind it. I bet
it's going to be good. Yeah. We also learned a
bit more about the Superman film James Gunn has in mind.
If you recall, uh, he said he was going to
make a Superman movie with a younger Superman in it,
it would not be Henry Cavill, who will not be

(32:44):
reclaiming the role, uh, and that it will somehow be
something totally new. And he's further gone on to say
that's not going to be an origin story, which is
interesting with a younger Superman. Yeah, but we're not gonna
like it sounds like he's already going to be established
as Superman because otherwise it would be an origin story, right,

(33:05):
So this will be you know, I don't think they
want to retread ground that's been covered so many times.
But it is supposed to be a kind character and
that he's supposed to be inspiring, which I am happy
to hear him still said, Henry Cavill doesn't get a
chance to be that one because he wanted it so
badly the few moments he was allowed to be. As

(33:29):
James Gum puts it, the embodiment of truth Justice, the
American way kindness in the world that thinks kindness is
old fashioned. The moment he got to do that in
the Justice League, he was brilliant. Yeah, I'm sad that
we don't get a full movie with that, but um,
this one's called Superman Legacy. And also we know that
the like it's it's a film that hasn't been cast,

(33:51):
not even a foot of film has been shot, not
that anyone shoots on film anymore, but but we do
know that the release date is July eleventh at least,
so they're probably gonna get starting on it soon. Uh.
The next thing we know about is something that I've
been wanting for a while. I've been wanting a John
Stewart Green Lantern story, but the way that they're doing it,

(34:13):
I don't know if I'm on board with. Yet I'm
sure it'll be good, much like we used to say, Um,
if I'll just write a check to Marvel and just
give it to him for for whatever movie they're coming
out with next, which I don't necessarily feel the same
way anymore. James Gunn has earned a lot of trust
in his superhero telling from me M M, so I

(34:36):
have completely lost track of where I was. But basically,
they're doing a Green Lantern TV series. Um, they're doing
a Green Lantern TV series with how Jordan and John Stewart.
But they're gonna be based on Earth and it's going
to be kind of true Detective E, which is scary.
It's not what I wanted out of my John Stewart
Green Lantern. But I I'm gonna trust James Gunn on

(34:58):
this one. If the Yellow King shows up in the lanterns,
that's dangerous for them because they don't do so well
against the color yellow. I didn't even think about that.
It's the first thing I thought of, Sinestro, is the
Yellow King. Um. Yeah, then we have the authority, which,
as Cartman reminds us, we must respect. Uh. This is

(35:20):
another team of superheroes that are kind of like anti heroes, um,
which I mean. James Gunn goes on to say, like
superhero stories aren't just about good guys and bad guys, right,
Like you've got some people in between. You could argue
Batman easily falls into that category. Right. Batman is a vigilante,

(35:43):
and while he has his own code, uh, he also
is known for breaking lots of bones. That kind of thing. Right,
So the Authority is like a super you know, at
all costs necessary, you you get the job done kind
of superhero group. And I get that, but I'm starting
to pick up on a lot of those, like I

(36:04):
don't I'm I don't want d C to turn into
what Watchman was sending up, right, Watchman not the series,
but the original comic and to some extent, the film.
But that yeah, no, the film, not the TV show. Um.
That Like those were about kind of deconstructing the superhero mythos, right,

(36:29):
and to to kind of say, like, this is what
heroes would actually be like in a world as opposed
to the way they're portrayed in the comic books. And
I don't want d C to just be that. I'm
sure it's not going to just be that, but that
was something I was willing to get away from with
the previous d C regime. Yeah. The one thing I'll

(36:51):
say about the Authority, well, I'm not familiar with it.
My husband has read some of it because I was
worried that. I was like, that sounds like the Boys,
it sounds like Watchman. We've already had enough of that, um,
And he said, it's not that bad. He said, it's
not that bad. Well, I have not read it, so
I will trust him. Every character is just Jack Nicholson
from a few good Men. That's not good. No, I'm kidding, Okay,

(37:15):
I can't handle that truth. Yeah, that's what a Saffron said.
They're kind of like Jack Nicholson from that. But I'm
sure it's not every character, and that's just kind of
all right. Well, we've got a few more. Next up,
we got Paradise Lost Um, which is supposed to cover
the homeland of Wonder Woman and have like a whole
power struggle storyline going on there. They've described it as

(37:38):
being kind of Games of Thrones esque, ah, which I'm
assuming they're talking about intrigue and not nudity, because otherwise
there's going to be a lot of women running around
naked on that show. I mean, it could be both. Well,
it's an HBO Max series. Actually, I don't know. Paradise

(37:59):
Losses it probably will be well, yeah, because that's who
owns it. Okay, I'm losing my mind a little bit today. Honestly,
I think this is the one that I'm least excited about,
because that's not you know, hopefully, hopefully we'll we'll start
seeing the promotional stuff in my mind will change. But
that's not where I want my Wonder Woman to be. Yeah,

(38:21):
I don't even know it will be. It will be
interesting to what extent Diana plays a role in Paradise Lost.
I mean, it is supposed to take place. It says
it takes place before the events of the Wonder Woman films.
But that's interesting all by itself because that suggests that
the Wonder Woman films exists within that timeline, right, unless

(38:44):
they just mean this takes place before Wonder Woman becomes
wonder Woman. Yeah. Maybe maybe she's still a child. Maybe
she hasn't been created from clay yet. Um. The next
thing we have is the not Robert Pattinson, Uh, Batman
bull Been Beautiful. No, it's the Brave of the Bold,
the Brave and the Beautiful, the Brake Okay, fine, the

(39:07):
beautiful Batman and his Wonderful toys. Uh. So this is
this is a comic series that's been around, it's a
cartoon series. It's been for kids, but it follows Batman
and his son Damian Wayne as Robin. Yeah. And uh,
and now we're gonna get a a movie, a full

(39:29):
movie of this, so um okay, Like, it's interesting that
this is going to be the first appearance of Batman
in the official new dc U timeline because it's a
Batman who already has a grown son. So but I

(39:50):
feel like I don't remember which cartoon series it was.
There was one where Batman was old and Damien was
the main Batman. Yes, yes, there was. It's just it
makes me. It confuses me because it means there's all
these other Batman stories that have already happened when in
the world of d c U. So the question is,

(40:11):
are they ever going to go back and revisit any
of those stories, perhaps even using a different Batman. But
do you need the Pearl story again? No, not the
I'm not talking about going to the movies and or opera.
I'm talking about like, if if Batman is old enough
to have a fully grown son, then Batman has been

(40:32):
Batman for a while, which means Batman has had numerous
encounters with lots of different characters, and the way that
DC films have been in the past, you can't guarantee
that that DC villain is still going to be alive
at the end of the movie. So I just want to.
I'm like, I don't want to miss out on some
cool Batman stories that cannot happen once Batman has gotten

(40:54):
to the point where he's had a grown son. Maybe
that's the reason why they kept else the the Batman
in the else worlds. I don't think that his son
has grown yet. He's going to be Robin, which means
he's going to be either a preteen or a teenager,
like grown enough. He's not like a bebbit. I'm not
gonna it's not gonna be dressing up a bebet in
red and yellow and then throwing the babe people. As

(41:16):
as dark as it sounds, Damian Wayne in the cartoons
at least can be a lot of fun um. But
he was raised by assassins. So I just have this
image of Batman going, no, you cannot kill that person. Yeah, yeah,
well we'll see. I mean, like, like, like I've said,
you know, I should never doubt James Gunn. He has
done some amazing work. It's just it's one of those

(41:38):
where when I read about that, I was like, really,
so you're you're jumping pretty far into the Batman timeline,
but it's the beginning of your DCU timeline, which means
you're limiting the number of stories you can tell unless
you're just determined to get rid of the Bruce Wayne Batman,
you know, three years down the road and switch him

(42:01):
out with Damien Wayne. Yeah. Yeah, we'll see what he does. Um.
The other thing that I think you were excited about
was a Booster Gold television series. Yeah, because Booster Gold,
along with Blue Beetle, were two of my favorite characters
from the Justice League International comics series. I want to
say they were. They were largely comic relief in that

(42:24):
particular title, Like that comic book was very lighthearted and
in times extremely silly, and they were two of the
silliest characters. So, um, I kind of am looking forward
to seeing this. I don't think they'll make it quite
as goofy as those comics were, but um it is.

(42:44):
It is being described as a story about a loser
from the future who uses, who uses technology that is
common in his futuristic timeline too kind of achieve the
powers of a superhero. But he there's nothing special about him.
He's just making use of technology that's far beyond our

(43:05):
own capability and our present day. Yeah. Um, I'm I'm
interested in the Booster Gold series. I'm interested in the
Blue Beetle movie that is still coming out. UM. Side note,
because I don't think it's in this this article. Um.
And we're going to go through the lat There are
two more things we want to talk about, and we're
dooom real quick because we got other stuff we need
to talk about and we're running out of time. Um.
James Gunn watched the Flash movie and said that it's

(43:27):
one of the best superhero here are movies he's ever seen,
although Ezra Miller's place as the Flash is definitely up
in the air. Yeah. They've been very generous when talking
about Ezra Miller, talking about giving them the time and

(43:47):
space needed in order to seek help and to become
a better person. And that's admirable, right, Like I can
admire people wanting folks to be better. But but it
it involves a lot of ignoring the actual charges that
were placed against Ezra Miller and ignoring the actual particulars

(44:09):
Like it requires you to it requires you to not
talk about the specifics because once he starts talking about
the specifics, you realize, oh, this is indefensible. Really. Yeah, yeah,
so we'll see, Um, We're also getting a Supergirl movie
not a surprise, and a swamp Thing movie. The Supergirl

(44:31):
is gonna be dark and gritty, which I don't know
if I want, and swamp Thing is going to be horror,
which I'm completely fine with. Well, I think if you
don't want a dark and gritty version of Supergirl, you
should go and watch the already in existence Supergirl movie.
It is not dark, is not gritty. It's also not good.

(44:51):
I've seen it more than once. It is I have
also seen it more than once. It is terrible, but
terrible in a schlocky way that I really enjoy. But
it is not good. Yeah, yeah, um, I'm interested. If
you listeners are excited or tentatively nervous about these DC announcements,

(45:13):
you should write and tell us will tell you how
at the end of the episode. But for now, we
are done with d C and we're gonna pop over
to Marvel. Yeah. So we got ourselves another aunt Man
movie coming out that Quantumnia Movies month, And part of
the thing that happens in that film is that you
find out that Scott Lang has written a memoir. And

(45:37):
what is fun is that Marvel decided to make that
fictional memoir a real thing in our real world that
you can really order and really read for yourself. Yes,
And then they had real life Paul Rudd, who plays
pretend Scott Lang or real Scott Lang in a pretend
world advertise that book. It is so meta and bizarre

(46:02):
and I absolutely love it. Yeah, this is one of
those promotional things that I really dig In fact, that
could be a full discussion someday about like interesting innovative
ways to promote a property that are outside your norm,
like it's outside your trailers and you're like, you know,

(46:23):
talk show press kits and stuff. Yeah, we've talked about
it a little in the past with like The Ring
and stuff. The Ring was brilliant. Oh yeah, No, that's
the one I always think about because the the viral
marketing campaign for The Ring. It would not work today
because no one has a VCR anymore. But what they
did back in The Ring is that at certain theaters,

(46:45):
some production assistants would leave videotapes that look like, you know,
there's nothing, no label on them or anything, but just
leave videotapes on the windshield of certain cars in the
parking lot of a theater. And if you went home
and played the tape. It played the video from the
Ring and then had the little promotional thing at the
end about when the Ring was coming out, And like,

(47:07):
what a brilliant viral way to market your film. This
is a much higher profile approach. And also it's not
like Marvel needs it, no, but I do appreciate it.
It's a way to kind of work around some of
that Marvel fatigue. Yeah. Uh, let me ask you this area.
Are you fatigued by all the horror movie trailers and

(47:29):
make you watch I was just about to say I was, Uh,
this one actually made me jump and scared. I'm not
watching this movie, Jonathan. Yeah, yeah, this one's This one's
apparently related to a work by Stephen King that I'm
not familiar with. Um, so you thought that this one

(47:49):
looked really scary. See, this one didn't do much for me.
But maybe I need to watch it again. I haven't
watched it since I put it on the list. I'm
afraid of the dark, Jonathan. Oh see, I like it
Pitch Black. I like there to be not a sliver.
You know, Pitch Black was an okay movie? All right,
we are not I do not stand then Diesel in

(48:10):
this house. So um uh, I uh know, I like it.
I like it as dark as it gets. Uh, I
mean it looks like it. It looks like it could
be a perfectly fine horror movie. And maybe it's actually
a really good one. The trailer just didn't do much
for me. Yeah, it's really it's gonna be a really
great movie for you. If you like Stephen King, you

(48:33):
like scary movies, and you liked Little Leah from the
Obi Wan series because she's the main character. Oh is
that who? That is? Because I haven't I haven't watched
O B one yet. That's still on my list. That
and and or still on my list. Uh yeah, I
mean you know it's it's I will never say no
to more horror movies. I like. I like the horror genre.

(48:55):
It is actually really hard for me to watch now
because my anxiety has gotten to a point. It's hard
for me to watch stuff that specifically plays on stress
and tension and anxiety. But when it's really good, I'll
put up with it, and I really enjoy it. It's
just that I have to I have to be in
the right mindset to be able to do it. Yeah,

(49:16):
I get it, you know. We've all been through a
lot the past few years, and some people more than others.
And I had to watch like four episodes of Night Court. Yeah,
well are you good? I would ask you, but I
already know the answer because I don't think you watched
the first two seasons. But are you going to watch
the third season of Battle Piccard Galactica. Uh, that's gonna

(49:38):
be a big no ghostwriter. Um yeah, So okay, So
we got the trailer for Piccard season three, and I
mean so the gang is back together, most of them anyway.
Wesley Crusher is nowhere to be seen, but his mom
he has been seen in Piccard has Yeah. I didn't

(50:01):
know that. I didn't want to spoil it for you,
but yeah, he showed up in a previous season spoilers
for anybody who hasn't watched it, I'm so sorry. Is
he still like traveling around with the traveler guy? Uh
spoilers turn this off for like five seconds, so if
you don't want to hear the answer, Yes, that's what
he shows up as at the end of season two. Gotcha?
Got you? Well? Um? Yeah, it's mostly the gang back together,

(50:23):
like it's a lot of the people from Star Trek
the Next Generation, and that probably would have really gotten
my attention if there hadn't been U Percard season one
or season two. But even with this trailer, it just
it doesn't feel like it feels like they're different people
like it feels like they're different characters. And and you

(50:46):
could argue, well, a lot of time has passed and
of course people change, and that there's validity to that,
but there's such a breakdown in they're the way they
handle themselves in the trailer versus the way they handled
them selves in the show. Because the Federation it's a
very military kind of of uh organization, but they're not

(51:09):
acting like like disciplined military personnelitymore. And I don't know,
I just I feel like I feel like it's almost
like people cause playing as these characters, but they don't
understand what actually made the characters tick. And so they
have the same name and they look the same as
the characters they're playing, but they're not behaving the same way.

(51:31):
And that's the most important part for me. But that's
that's that's just my reaction. And I understand there are
other people who truly love the seasons of the Card,
and there's nothing wrong with that. I just it just
doesn't hit for me. Yeah. I've liked parts of both seasons. Um,
they weren't completely solid all the way through for me,
But um, I do like the characters when they have

(51:53):
shown up. Um. In the other two seasons, I have
really enjoyed it. And in season two like that that
will wheatn thing. It delighted me beyond beyond comprehension. Um. Yeah. Yeah.
You know, at least Warf seems like he's acting kind

(52:15):
of Warfest because that's true. We're actually out of all
the ones and granted, you know, we don't spend a
lot of time with each character in the trailer, so
maybe I'm being unfair anyway, but I have all the
ones who do appear Warf like. I was like, oh
my gosh, man, Michael Dorn, you are solid, Like this
is the writing is solid for your character, and you
are solid in your performance. That was what felt the

(52:37):
most true to me. Yeah, I agree, I agree. Um,
I will watch it. I don't have a paramount plus
right now, but I will get it to watch. Season
three also about probably about the time that The Strange
New World's next season comes out, because Carol Kane will
be in it, and she's awesome. The next thing we

(52:57):
have is a true to have to talk about, Who've
had That's a sentence. The next thing we have to
talk about is a trailer for something called The Power. Yeah.
So I was not aware of this film at all
until I saw this trailer and I just happened to
it popped up in my my feed, like the recommendations,
because now that I watched trailers all the time for

(53:18):
this show, I start to get alerts when they happen.
Um And it's a story where it's it's a alternate
version of our world where young women are starting to
manifest these incredible powers where they're essentially related to electricity,
and it's it's meant to be like an evolutionary thing

(53:40):
and it only is affecting young women, and so it's
it's a thing where they they both literally have more
power because they have superpowers essentially, and they metaphorically have
more power. Because it's obviously playing on the fact that
young women in at least in our society, frequently find

(54:03):
themselves at an imbalance when it comes to power. That
there is there are a lot of other factors in
the world that are leveraged against them, and they have
to be very careful with how they navigate life in
order to do so without like running into negative consequences,
and so like this is kind of like, oh, now

(54:23):
look at how the turns are tabled, because now the
young women have the power, and yeah, there they Yes,
they're going to go nuts with that power because they've
not ever had it before, and like talk about hand
fisted metaphor. You know, it's it's so obvious what they're doing.
That doesn't mean it's going to be bad. It might
be really really good. But this is not one of

(54:46):
those things where you're like, huh, it's almost like they're
trying to say something. Yeah, yeah, I you know, conceptually,
I'm I'm fine with it. Uh. The trailer just makes
me feel like it's something something I've kind of seen before. Yeah,
I mean, it's like it's a lot like a lot
of I feel like it's got a lot in common
with like like a lot of superhero especially more recent

(55:08):
superhero stories, where it's a character who traditionally has been
trodden upon who then gains powers and has to uh
learn the lessons of how to use that power in
the right way. For them, and um, yeah, I think
it looks interesting. Like I don't mean to I'm not

(55:29):
dismissing this movie. I think the trailer looks compelling. Uh,
even though I think that the messaging is like, it's
not subtext, it's just text. Um, I don't really have
a problem with that necessarily if it's still done well.
I wish the trailer was compelling. To me. It felt
very same old, same old, to like Sabrina, or that's fair,

(55:54):
you know. I haven't watched Sabrina, but I have a
feeling like if I did, I might feel the same way.
I mean, I can definitely, I can definitely see it
being an evolution from things that came much, much, much earlier,
like Buffy the Vampire Slayer, right. I can see it
being like a just as the girls have evolved to
have these powers in the in the film. I could

(56:17):
just see that as being the story being an evolution
of girl finding herself in possession of of strange strength
and powers from the nineties. So yeah. The next trailer, however,
which I had no idea about and Jonathan putting into
our show lineup, is called the Portable Door. It's a
Jim Henson h Creation Workshop movie and it looks so good.

(56:42):
It's also an adaptation of a series of books. There's
seven books in the Portable Door series, and yeah, this one, uh,
it looks really interesting. Like if I had to describe
it to someone like how would you how would you
describe the portab Door, I'd say, Well, imagine if you
took Doctor Strange and Harry Potter and you put them

(57:05):
both in a jar, and you shook the jar up
and then you poured out what came what was left.
That's what the Portable Door would be. Yeah. For me,
it feels like a mix between maybe Hitchhiker's Guide and
the Chronicles of Narnia. And there's also there's an element
in it that I'm not sure where you would point to,
maybe like the Kingsman or something like that, but there's

(57:28):
there's the element of this secret agency that is doing
stuff beneath the awareness of the rest of the world,
and there's a little bit of a hint that there's
something sinister going on with that as well. And so
there's that element. You've got not just the magical stuff

(57:50):
and the wonder, but you've also got this uh, mysterious
and perhaps malevolent organization at play well. Yeah, which, uh,
speaking of Sabrina again, which is not necessarily a show
that I recommend, it's super super dark. Um. Miranda Otto
is in The Portable Door, as is Sam Neil, Guy Pierce,

(58:12):
and Christoph Waltz, who has gone from playing old timmy
villains to corporate villains. I want Christoph Waltz to be
the bad guy in every movie I watch. Uh, he
doesn't have to be a bad guy either, he can
be a good guy. I just I find his intensity
when he's playing a villain is so phenomenal. Like he

(58:35):
he can be terrifying without raising his voice or threatening
you in any way. Like I think of the beginning
of Inglorious Bastards and it's some of the scariest, most
tense film I've ever seen, and it's really just him
sitting and being very quiet and calm. But you know

(58:56):
that he he is capable of ending your life in
moment it is. He's phenomenal. Yeah, yeah, I agree. Um,
I'm very much looking forward to The Portable Door. I
can't wait to see more about it, but not too
much because I don't want the movie ruined. Um. I've
never I didn't know it was books, So thanks, I
might go read them as well. Excellent. Uh. Next up,

(59:18):
we now know that Paramount Wobby. It's already happened now,
but Paramount Plus and Showtime combined their streaming services, uh,
which not a huge surprise. I mean, we've known for
a while. We've been talking about for a year now
about how how streaming services are struggling because the cost

(59:39):
of producing prestige content uh is sometimes outstripping the revenue
you generate by getting subscriptions. So we're starting to see
some consolidation. I mean, obviously we already saw that with
Warner Brothers and Discovery, and now we're getting that Discovery
Max HBO Max kind of combo coming out. Well, Paramount

(01:00:00):
and Showtime is now Paramount Plus with Showtime that's the
name of the new streaming service. Uh. And so yeah, maybe,
like I don't necessarily object to this, because, as we've
talked about on this show, I feel there are way
too many streaming services already. The fact that I just

(01:00:20):
finally subscribe to Peacock is part of that. Like the
fact that I don't have Hulu anymore is part of that.
I still need to do Apple Plus. So I got
to do that. But yeah, yeah, so seeing seeing a
couple combined forces doesn't doesn't necessarily make me upset unless
they do the Warner Brothers Discovery thing where they start

(01:00:42):
taking a hatchet two tons of content and then even
removing it from the service. Yeah, they have kind a
few things, which is going to happen with any merger.
But Paramount plus it's performing really really well. Um. Obviously
they didn't need my subscription to stay afloat um, but
they'll get it again at some point. Custom Card season

(01:01:03):
three and yeah, in Strange New Worlds and some of
the other stuff. Um. Our last story of the day
is uh for completely free. You can watch an AI
generated Seinfeld episode that never ends on Twitch. Yeah, have
you watched any of this areal? I watched like five

(01:01:25):
minutes before I logged on with you didn't almost drive
you crazy. It was very like just just from the
standpoint that nothing happened and there was a lot of
like dead space. Okay, so yeah, this this is um
it's called Nothing Forever is the name of the series,
and it is I've watched a lot of it already

(01:01:48):
because I covered it. I covered it on Tech Stuff
as well, and uh, yeah, they're using a generative, pre
trained transformer to create the dialogue. It's clearly been trained
on Seinfeld episodes because the scenes have the structure of
a scene from Seinfeld and that they have kind of
a set up the way those scenes do, but they

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don't necessarily progress the way a Seinfeld episode would. I mean,
it is about nothing, but often the scenes make very
little sense. What makes even less sense are the stand up.
Did you see any of Larry doing his stand up
like it was turning to stand up about the time
that I had to come talk to you, so I
chose you over AI generated Larry stand up. I mean,

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that's that's the sweetest thing I've heard all day. But
welcome the stand up. The stand up in it is
truly bizarre. It's not funny, like there's no once in
a blue moon. You get an actual joke and I
which is crazy. I'm guessing they had to have lifted
the jokes. It can't be a generative joke. I'll give
you one of the jokes that is done, although this

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I think was done in one of the scenes, not
in stand up, which was I heard that it's illegal
to laugh loudly when you are in Hawaii. If you
laugh there, it must be a loha. Some people I
know would love that joke. I'm one of them. Ariel,
I love that joke. But most of the time you

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don't get jokes at all, which is, you know, you
just get weird, nonsensical conversations. One of the ones I
saw was it was they've changed the names of all
the characters. So Jerry is Larry, George is Fred, Elaine
is a Vaughan, and Kramer is like cock Lov or
something like that. Um, and so Larry and Joy our Fred.

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Larry and Fred are talking and Larry says, did I
tell you that I heard the pet store telled the
streets sold a unicorn? And Fred's like, do you think
that's real? As I don't know, and then Fred says,
I wish we had bought the unicorn. Imagine the conversations
we could have. And then there was random laugh track. Listen,

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you're laughing at it now, so like I can't laugh
at the lo Loo chocolate joke. I feel like the
AI had to have found that somewhere, and it had
to It could not have it could not have just
generated that because nothing else actually comes across like a joke.
It's it's The cool thing is that if you listen
to the lines in a scene, they all relate to

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each other. It's not like they're literally saying random things
like I found a hammer in the box. The neighbor's
cat keeps attacking me. Well, I'm going to go get
lunch now. It's not like that, right, Like it actually
connects to each other, which is pretty impressive, But it doesn't.
It's not formed in a way to actually work as

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a comedy. The humor is in how random and not
funny it is, and then the random laugh track really
ramps that up. And that's what I was talking about
with like night earlier, Like if you stripped the laugh
track out of night Court, it would be a very
different show. Or if you just randomly put in laughs

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the way it is on Nothing forever, it would be
very unsettling. Yeah. Yeah, there, it's still learning. I'm sure
the randomly AI generated episode will get better. But also
I don't I don't want to get to a point
where we use AI to create a situational standard comedy

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series instead of people, because you know, it's still pulling
from somewhere right, so well, and and I don't think
we are going to get to that point. I mean,
we've seen a few stunts with people using AI to
create things like a children's book or whatever, or like
a little stand up mini set, but it's it's typically

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when you go through it, you're like, this lacks. There's
a spark that it lacks. And even if you were
I think if you were to even do like a
double blind test and you gave people the text to
read and they weren't told whether or not it came
from a machine or a person, I think that nine

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times out of ten, the computer generated thing would underperform, uh,
if you were if you were putting up against an
actually talented creator, not not just anybody. I mean, obviously
there's a ton of stuff that gets out there that
is just not good, shoddy and poorly done. But for
like someone who's really good at their art, I think

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they will always outperform the machines that we see. I agree.
MPR didn't an article on that recently too, which is
pretty interesting. UM check it out if you guys have
interest in listening to more about that. UM. Yeah, I
might go watch a little bit more of the Seinfeld thing,
just because Um, morbidly curious. But there's so much good

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stuff that I want to watch and I still haven't
even watched this week's episode of Dimension twenty never After,
so um it's low on my list. Mm hmm. Well
I think that's it. I think that wraps up the
news we wanted to talk about. This was a great conversation. Yeah,

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very long. Um, if you guys have thoughts on any
of the things we talked about, we'd love to hear
from you. Uh. You can reach out to us in
many forms, but not yet an email. I actually did
work on that this week, and I'm still trying to
figure out a puzzle. Apparently we have an old Gmail
email and neither of us can remember the passwords, so

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we might be creating a new one. Yeah, but if
you want to get in touch with me, here's what
you need to do. Go again a vehicle and you
just start driving, and you drive until you get out
into like the countryside, where you're gonna be going down
a road that is just nondescript, nothing on it. It's
gonna be pitch black. There's gonna be a stop sign

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that you're gonna come to, which is weird because there's
no intersection. There's no reason for a stop signed to
be there. But if you look down and to the
right of the stop side, you will see an old laptop.
It's not plugged into anything. The screens are. If you
get out of your car, walk through that laptop and
you whisper into its USB port, I will hear you
and I will answer you. Jonathan, are you an agent

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of the matrix? You have to tell us if you're
an agent of the matrix. No, I'm I'm fay. Okay, yeah, alright, alright.
But if you actually want to reach us um in
in a more practical, doesn't use so much gas method,
you can contact us on Twitter where ln C Underscore podcast,
on Instagram, Facebook, and discord. We are large er drawn

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collider and soon we will have an email and I
will tell you what that is at that time. Or
if you prefer, you can use an electric vehicle and
that will also not use as much as Yes, I
suppose that is true. My question for you, Jonathan, do
you have a laptop in every like country location? Oh no,

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they're going to find themselves on a road that doesn't exist.
All right, Well, that's all we got for you until
next time. I'm Ariel Gigglebuts Casting, and I'm Jonathan I'm
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