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Speaker 1 (00:11):
Hey, everybody, Welcome to the large nerg On Collider podcast,
the podcast that's all about the geeky things happening in
the world around us and how very excited we are
about them. I'm aerial casting, and with me, as always
is the super brilliant Jonavan Stricklin. Let's Bowl, Let's bowl,
Let's rock and roll. Indeed. Yeah, how are you doing

(00:33):
a real I'm you know, I am. I am doing
Pecha keene. I am. Lots of cool geeky things on
the horizon for me. Uh. You know, my band's playing,
Uh an improvised D and D in the next month,
and a bunch of other fun things. How about you.
I'm doing pretty well. I've got a lot of cool

(00:54):
geeky things in the works. Uh. Next month, I'm gonna
go see an improvised D n D show and my
friends band is playing. So that's cool. Yeah. For those
who are are curious, especially for those in the Atlanta area,
the Dad's Garage Theater Group has been doing an improvised

(01:14):
D and D show for several years now, and Mark Mere,
who was the voice actor for the Male Commander Shepherd
and has been on lots of other stuff, is the
creator of that format. He comes down on occasion to
d M or Dungeon Master, the improvised show. He's going

(01:34):
to be there that weekend, and Ariel's band is going
to be playing as well, so she's she's part of
the entertainment and I'm really looking forward to it. Yeah,
we're you know, we're not going to be on the
big stage. We're just a lobby band. So you know, no, no, no, no,
You're not just a lobby band. You are the musical

(01:54):
accompaniment to a night of revelry, you know what that
is true. I'm very excited about it. We're pulling out
songs we haven't done in a while because normally we
you know, lately we our biggest gig has been Pirate
paluza Um. Not that we don't do other stuff, but
like that's that's our standard gig. And so we've got
like our set of music that we do. But because

(02:15):
this isn't a pirate gig, it's a D and D gig,
we're not doing all the Pirate songs. So we're pulling
a lot of other songs that I absolutely love back
out of the closet um or a drawer or wherever.
We've put them. I don't know. I don't keep track
of that. And we're also working up some fun, new,
incredibly geeky stuff. I'm super super excited. Yes, And just
in case you're wondering what the heck Pirate Pelouza is,

(02:35):
because Ariel just dropped that as if it's a sorry,
I just assume everybody knows every every talk like a
Pirate day or right around there. We here in Atlanta
have this pub crawl where a bunch of people dress
up like pirates and stumble pubb to pub and it
typically ends with a big musical performance at the end

(02:55):
of the day. It's actually a celebration of the birthday
of and who, who also organizes the thing, and Captain
Drew as we call him, And sometimes I show up
as a representative of Her Majesty's Navy and we end
up having um a rivalry between the two of us.

(03:17):
But I haven't been there and quite some time, but
it's it's a it's a fun, rollicking time. Again. If
you're in the Atlanta area, search for Pirate Buloza when
it starts coming around, you know, mid September, and find
out when and where it's going to happen and almost
I mean, it always happens in decater. Yeah, but I'm sorry,
I just dropped a bunch of stuff anyhow, lots of

(03:38):
geeky stuff happening in our personal circles, but also a
lot of geeky stuff happening in the world. Um that
we're going to get into this episode. But first, I
wanted to say thank you to listener Terra for reaching
out and giving us her review on the book The Power. Um.
It has made me more excited for the for the
movie The I guess it's a TV movie coming out. Yeah.

(04:01):
This is the story about young women discovering that they
have evolved the ability to essentially harness electricity, at least
according to the trailers we've seen, and that this in
turn shifts the power dynamic. Whereas young women would typically
be at a disadvantage from a power standpoint, now the

(04:22):
literal superpowers they have allow them to change that. So yeah,
we were really appreciative of getting that review because it
confirmed the things I thought the the film would be about.
And uh, I told Ariel before the show, I said, man,
if I were wrong, then that is the most misleading

(04:44):
trailer I have ever seen. But I wasn't wrong, which
there's the first time for everything. Yeah, I was say
you're you're pretty wrong because you watched all the way
through the first season of Elma. I'm kidding. If you
like Filma and you listen to the show, that's fine. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
I was gonna talk about that after thirty seconds or
I but we'll go ahead and do it. We can
go ahead and no, no, let's let's listen. Let's rip

(05:07):
that band aid off shell we um. So yeah, I watched. Uh,
I watched the last like I guess the ninth and
ten episodes of Elma. I'm assuming those the last ones
for this season because they wrap up the storyline. You
find out what has happened to Velma's mother, and you
find out who's been killing all the popular girls, and

(05:29):
you find out why. And yeah, it doesn't get better.
It is just as miserable and experience. In fact, it
might even be a more miserable experience by the end
of it as it was at the beginning. And I
wanted it to be good. Like I like shows that

(05:50):
that poke fun at the source material that inspired them, right,
Like I like Sea Lab, I like The Venture Brothers
and even though the Venture Brothers isn't a direct adaptation
of something from before, it's you know, obviously taking taking
shots at Johnny Quest and series like that. Um, but Velma,

(06:11):
just I I kept feeling like it's it's a cynical
attempt to cash in on an I P while not
really honoring that I P at all, and not not
even being clever with how they're subverting the I p's.
They do think that, yes, they I'm not gonna say

(06:33):
what I was gonna say, just backed off because in
my head I thought, no, that's gross and you don't
need to say it. But they there was a joke
in either of the episode nine or episode ten. I
watched them back to back. There was a joke in
one of those where, uh, they say something about sitcoms,

(06:54):
are making a joke about sitcoms, and and Velma just
casually says they are like, oh, so it's always looking
backward and not innovating in any way. And I'm thinking
that's what this is. I mean, that's the joke. But no, no,
though it was not a self aware joke, are you?

(07:14):
I am certain it was not a self As I
watched it, I'm like, this is not being delivered at
all as being a self aware thing, because it's being
so offhandedly mentioned. It's not set up as look, we're
doing the thing, we're joking about it just to me.
I mean, if it was self aware, it was delivered
in such a way that you don't get that feeling,

(07:36):
which means it's a failed joke either way. Yeah, yeah,
I will take your word for it. I'm sorry I
even questioned you because I didn't make it through the
first episode. It just it was not my cup of
tea that you made the right decision. Like I, I
kept hoping for it to get better or for the
storyline to have a payoff that was that made the

(07:58):
whole effort worthwhile it ever did, and I wanted it
to be good, Like I really did want to enjoy this,
and I kept giving it chance after chance, and I
just didn't like it. And I mean to go into
all the reasons why, I would obviously take like a
full episode, So we're not gonna burden you, our beloved listeners,

(08:19):
with that terrible fate. Yeah. Instead, um, how about we
go to thirty seconds or less and then we can
talk about anything else that we saw that maybe brought
us joy. Sure, that sounds great. Uh. And the first
thing in thirty seconds or less actually brings me quite
a bit of joy, which is that we're getting a
live action Spiderman noir series at Amazon, which is interesting. Um,

(08:46):
that is coming to Amazon and not Disney Plus. But
I guess that's because it's it's Spider Man and that's sony. Uh.
But it's being written and produced by orn Usil, who
did the Lost City formerly known as a Lost City
of d That's that Sandra Bolock Channing Tatum movie that
was incredibly dorky and and wrote but also a lot
of fun. Uh. It's set in the nineteen thirties. I'm

(09:09):
really excited it's got The series is being developed with
the producers of Spider Man into the Spider verse. Um. Yeah,
super excited. Yeah, No, that that sounds cool. I doubt
they'll get Nicholas Cage. That's fine because he voiced it.
But anyway, all right, so let me do my next
here's mine. Uh, and I'm gonna go. So you remember Gladiator.

(09:33):
You remember Gladiator that was Braveheart. But in Braveheart, but
in Roman Armor that was it wasn't three hundred, it
was one It also wasn't Pirates of the Caribbean. But
if you listen to the musical score for Gladiator, you
would be forgiven for thinking it was the same as
the musical score for Pridens of the Caribbean. They sound identical.
It's crow in a skirt. Yeah. Well, we're getting a

(09:54):
sequel that nobody asked for, and it's gonna follow Lucius,
who was the few of Commodus, the bad guy from Gladiator,
and it comes out in nice Yeah. I went a
little over there. Sorry about that. It's my fault. I interrupted.
You listen and some people, some people did want to sequel.

(10:16):
That's why we got Robin Hood anyhow. Uh uh my turn. Okay, uh.
We're getting a God of War TV series. That's not
super new news, although it did kind of fall off
the radar for a while. Now we've got a little
bit of news that it has started production and that
they're keeping all the values of the game but also
expanding upon the world. It's interesting that they're saying they're

(10:40):
keeping the values of the game, because I'm guessing that
just means they're keeping like the main plot in there.
Well my guess, okay, so my guess is that if
you look at the the most recent to God of
War games, that's where anything that remotely can be related
to the word values can be can be ascribed because

(11:06):
in the previous Kind of War trilogy it was such
excess and there was a lot of sexy Schmexi stuff
in it, or incredibly exploitative and kind of gross stuff
depending upon your perspective. UM, a lot of a lot
of like a lot of service to juvenile male fantasies.

(11:26):
But then you look at the more recent kind of
War games and it tends to be stories about a
father attempting to raise his son to be a survivor,
but also trying to make sure that his son doesn't
fall into the same kind of trapped that he did.
So I'm thinking that that's gonna be it. And my

(11:48):
initial knee jerk reaction to this news aerial was that, man,
I don't think we need that, But then I didn't
think we needed the Last of Us series, and holy cats,
was I wrong. But we'll talk about that in a bit. Yeah,
I would say I'm not cut up to that. Um. Also,
I've I haven't watched the most recent God of War
game because I didn't play the last one. But my

(12:09):
my husband played Data War um and I watched that,
and so you know, I haven't watched Data War two,
but I'm excited for it. Okay, we have way gone
over thirty seconds on that one. Well, yeah, it's but
that was fair. Okay, here we go. So, uh, Discovery
Plus is going to remain a standalone service, which is

(12:31):
odd because it's also merging with HBO Max. The HBO
Max Discovery Plus merger is going to bring some but
not all, of Discoveries content to it. Discovery Plus will
stay as it is, probably because there's a fear that
if the price of subscription goes up a whole bunch,
everyone would cancel, and so we're going to have to

(12:52):
streaming services rather than consolidated. I'm real quick. I'm interested
to see what gets moved over to HBO Max and
what doesn't. What they think HBO Max people will want
to watch from Discovery Yeah, I'm honestly, the more of
this goes on, the more I'm like, why bother even
doing the merger still, because i mean, apart from the

(13:12):
fact that you're there slashing the content that's on HBO
Max and it needs to be replaced with something. I
just don't get it because I'm like, I don't know
about the average HBO Max owner. I know that I
have no desire for any discovery content on my HBO Max.
They they said that they there has been discovery content

(13:33):
that I have liked, but they have said that they're
done cutting content and going to start making new content. Now. Okay, uh,
so we'll see if that happens. Next story. Do you
like the I'm yelling into my microphone everybody, You're welcome
the next story. Do you like the office? Do you
like mass Effect? Well? If you do, great news for you.

(13:55):
A YouTube YouTuber Eli underscore handle underscore b dot a
made a Michael Scott in mass Effect video. It's pretty funny.
Uh it might be my favorite mass effect mash up
thus far. You haven't seen it already. We will link
it on our web page www dot large ner drunklider
dot com likely by Monday. Cool. Uh, next up one

(14:21):
of mine. So, Mark Hamill, a a Looke Skywalker, is
going to be selling signed Star Wars memorabilia, which is bomkers.
It's the sort of thing you think, why is Mark
Cambell's selling the stuff? Well, it's to raise money. Specifically,
he's raising money to contribute to the Ukrainian Army as

(14:42):
they face the continuing Russian invasion of their country. So yeah,
you can look up the the stuff on on Politico.
They have a whole article about it, and you can,
you know, buy some signed member of BILI from Luke
Skywalker himself. Pretty cool, all right. Next, we are getting

(15:09):
a documentary about John Candy. It is being made by
Colin Hanks, which is Tom Hanks's kid, and Ryan Reynolds.
It's with full cooperation of Candy's family, and I think
it's pretty cool. We'll get to see a little bit
about what inspired him to do and he did in
a little bit about his personal life. His humor didn't

(15:29):
always hit me like as my favorite kind of humor,
but he seemed like a nice guy. So yeah, a
comedy legend out of Canada. It was part of SCTV uh.
He was in lots of very popular movies in the eighties,
and I was shocked to learn he died at the
age of forty three from a heart attack. I'm older

(15:53):
than that. All right, Well, let me do my last
one before I dwell too long on my own more
tality and that is so you're you know that Fast
and Furious franchise. I know you all know it. You
don't need to answer. Uh. Then Diesel has said that
he would love Robert Downey Jr. To be in the
next one. It was just kind of like a fan

(16:15):
casting thing when he was asked about it, because he has,
without giving too much away, the idea of this tech
mogul who's creating cars that are capable of driving themselves,
and how that's the antithesis of Dom Torreno, who's all
about family and Dodge chargers. Anyway, probably not going to happen,

(16:35):
but that was kind of his dreamcasting. It's I be
it's just because he likes iron Man like it's it's typecasting,
is what it is. Yeah. No, he's thinking of like
a combination of Iron Man and Elon Musk. That's what
he's thinking, right, Like, Um, I have not watched a
single Fast and Furious movie. I am listening to the
Worst Idea of all Time? Did I tell you about

(16:56):
this areal? No you didn't, but please do so. So
The Worst Idea of All Time is a podcast where
the the two hosts Tim Batton, Guy Montgomery will typically
pick a movie that they have to watch repeatedly throughout
the series, and then they talk about every single week,
so like they did Grown Ups to every week for

(17:18):
a full year, for example, or Sex in the City
Too for a full year. Right now, what they're doing
is they're working their way through the Fast and Furious
franchise by watching each film in the franchise the number
of times that it appears in the like as its numbers,
So like Fast and Furious nine, they're watching nine times. Okay,

(17:40):
I think you did tell me about this, but it
seemed like such a I don't know, the idea scared
me and so maybe I've blocked it out of my point.
The episodes are very funny. I've been listening to them,
and that's how I've I've only experienced Fast and Furious
nine because they're still watching it. They haven't they haven't
moved down to eight yet. But that's that's sort of

(18:01):
like the where I'm at. Also, by the way, as
we are recording this, in fact, a couple of hours
before we recorded this, the trailer for Fast ten came
out and I forgot to look it up before we
went to record. But here's the thing. And I feel
this way about a bunch of stuff we talked about
like last year or last week, and even with one
of the things we're going to talk about this week,

(18:22):
uh is, people are like, oh, the first trailer has dropped,
but the teaser trailers are so long now and so
show so much that they're not really first trailer trailers anymore.
We've already seen stuff for the new Fast and Furious movie. Well,
the only thing I saw was a shot of everybody
getting out of various cars, which is why a new

(18:43):
Dodge charger, because I saw that one of them was
in a Dodge Charger. But I mean, it's I don't know,
I like, I have no connection to these movies. They're
they're so outside of my interest that I've just never
really gotten into them. But I don't begrudge people join them.
They definitely seem like the kind of movies that you
need to see in the theater because it just isn't

(19:06):
going to translate to like a home theater experience. But um,
but it doesn't have enough to pull me into it.
I guess maybe if someone were to, you know, start
up a marathon day where they're going to show every
single film in the Fast franchise, and they paid me
to do it, maybe then I would do it. Well,

(19:27):
I was going to say, I have been meaning to
watch the Fast movies because I hereafter the first couple few,
they get, you know, kind of funny, although they seem
real serious again, so I don't I don't know. Well, Yeah,
the thing that the hosts say is that the biggest
problem they have is Bevin Diesel's character has no sense
of humor at all, Like, no, there's no humor to it,

(19:49):
not just sense of humor, no humor, and that watching
a humorless character through an action film ends up becoming
kind of a drag drag racing I guess, And so
they they're not looking forward to the other films in
the series. Yeah, but hey, listen, you might like Fast
and the Furious. You didn't think you'd like night Court,

(20:09):
and you loved the latest episode. I mean I didn't
love it. I liked it, I said, I said that, Okay.
What I said to Ariel was that I thought it
was probably the best of the bunch so far. I
don't think that. I still don't think it's a good show.
I think it. I think it does. It is very
much the spiritual successor to Night Court. It still has

(20:32):
that sort of corny, dated sitcom style that I just
thought had completely passed out of fashion, so I was
shocked to see it. But um yeah, I just uh,
I thought it was entertaining. I thought it was perhaps
the best episode they had so far, and I definitely
felt like episodes four and five were a traumatic improvement

(20:54):
over episodes one through three. Mm hmm, yeah, yeah. I
feel like the characters get more comfortable in who they
are and they have to establish less. Look, I took
a I took a class on on pilot episodes recently,
and I feel like the first three episodes of Night Court,
we're all trying to do what the pilot episode does,
which is established the characters and relationships, which means nobody.

(21:16):
Everybody is trying so hard to get certain points across
and in certain key items across that maybe they aren't
as relaxed into the characters in the story yet. I mean,
there are very few pilot episodes that I just truly love. Yeah, No,
I mean the same like there are there's some where

(21:37):
the pilot episode stands out pretty well, but very few,
and nightcord In particular, I felt like they were taking
shortcuts where characters we're making jokes about each other that
they really like. We hadn't seen these relationships develop at all,
so the jokes didn't really land because we didn't see

(21:58):
the stuff that led to the joking. Um Like, one
of the court clerk in particular, makes a joke about
how the judge is always trying to look into the
lives of the people who are appearing before her in
order to fix them. But we hadn't really seen that,
and so it didn't really work for me in that sense.

(22:18):
But anyway, I do think episode five was an improvement.
We also since the last episode we've both seen Waconda forever,
right yep. Um I liked it. I did not love it.
I you know, I've heard a lot of people have
a lot of veried opinions on it. Um I liked
it more than than Tony did. Uh. I thought everything

(22:42):
dealing with the passing, well, everything dealing with the passing
of Techalla because Chadwick Boseman passed away wrecked me. It
just completely wrecked me every single time throughout the entire movie.
Um I, the plot wasn't the strongest, but I did
like the underwater city design and the character design of

(23:06):
the Atlanteans. Yeah, except they're not the Atlanteans now, but
the name More and his people, Yeah, I thought, um,
Black Panther gave us kill Monger, who was a villain
who had a pretty cool backstory, like one where you're like, oh,

(23:27):
I get why he is the way he is and
what his motivations are. Now More or nay More was
very much the same, right, like you understand where he's
coming from and why he's concerned. Although I think they
took like they had to take some shortcuts with that
in order to fit in all the other stuff, like

(23:48):
giving the passing of T'Challa enough weight and acknowledgement so
that it would be a fitting tribute to Chad Chadwick.
Otherwise it would be like a h An insult, right,
So I think it kind of struggled due to that,
And um yeah, it's also I don't know, I just

(24:14):
I don't like sureI very much. Um. And I don't
know how much of that is me being biased because
I have issues with the actress. I don't know how
much of that is just due to the way the
character is written and performed. I just know that. As
the movie was unfolding, I was like, I do not

(24:35):
like her, Like I like every other character in this
movie more than I like her, including now More I
So okay, I thought that No More was um he
was way more charming than I expected him to be
in the comics. He's just like a complete jerk. He's
such a butt head. But he was kind of charming,

(24:58):
which I think you need again. You need to relate
to the villains. You need to know that they will
honestly believe what they're trying to do, you know, all
of these things. They did great with that. Um. I
So I liked Sherry in the first movie and this one.
I didn't think that her character had quite enough arc

(25:19):
of growth between the beginning and the end, Like I
wish that it had been more of a journey instead
of kind of like a flat line with a vague spike. Yeah, um,
I I will say that, Like I did not like,
uh what they did to the door dormlanage? Is that there?

(25:40):
Oh the guard? Yeah? I my my partner knows the
name immediately. And I'm a bad fan because I keep
forgetting Well now I'm looking it up. So everybody gets
to listen to my Clickie Klack's you just can't say
the guards, no, the door malaje or dormlaj anyhow they
put them in these like supersuits, which I didn't super

(26:03):
super like and and my husband was like, the coolest
thing about them is how they're so like just completely
badass as they are with their you know, with their
pipe spears um, and to kind of take that away
lacked something, And I agree, I agree, Yeah, it does
seem to take a step back, like it's also um okay,

(26:26):
let me just say this, like so you know, it's
in the trailer, it was in the film, the bit
with Reee Williams where she's forging her suit apparently and
she knocks out the heart shape out of Iron that
that doesn't that that's like not even part of the
fine finished suit, Like that's there's you see nothing in

(26:48):
there that looks anything like that in the finished suit.
There's there is a heart shape in the suit, but
it looks very anime. It feels cartoonish compared to maybe
Iron Man. And I don't mind that because maybe that
fits I'm not as familiar with Iron Hearts, so maybe
that fits the comics more. But yeah, that that little
rough heart wasn't visible. Just I was like, like, that

(27:11):
looks like that was just there to be in the
trailer to hint, to hint at the Marvel fans die
hards that that really was in the movie. Yeah. No, no, no,
But I'm saying, because it doesn't actually show up in
the film as as part of the suit at the end,
that that was obviously just there too to be like, hey,

(27:36):
guess who this is. Um I liked her. I like
the actress, and I'm looking I'm looking forward to seeing
iron Heart the series me too. I had many friends
who thought that the Naymarsh community looked like Navi from Avatar.
I wouldn't know. I haven't seen it. I feel like

(27:59):
in the actions means where they're obviously um you know
c g I distant blue people jumping around. I could
kind of see it, but close up, I really liked
the detail in like how like they were uh more
skin toned, closer to their mouths, and then as it
went out they turned bluer because it's a they explain
it in the movie. If you haven't watched it yet,

(28:20):
I don't want to run it for you. Um So
I kind of liked that detail. It's uh, you know,
I think for most people, like we're the ones who
are way behind on this one because this movie came
out last year and we just finally watched it. Uh.
I will say this, I liked it more than Doctor
Strange and the Multiverse of Madness. I liked it way

(28:41):
more than the Eternals. Um, did you like it more
than Aquaman? I've only seen well, I've only seen wa
Kinda Forever once, but I've only seen Aquaman once and
it was a long time ago. And I don't think
I liked Aquaman very much. Like I found it off putting.

(29:04):
I didn't enjoy it. Um. But anyway, that's kind of
our take on Wakonda Forever out of curiosity, Ariel, you
said you're not caught up on Last of Us. What
episode have you last watched? Um? I just finished episode two. Ah, Arial,
you're you're holding off on the best episode so far.

(29:25):
I think I started like I started like the first
five minutes of episode three, and then I had I
got pulled away. Um, So I'm I'm working on it
well episode because episode five comes out today as we're
recording this. Because they don't want to release over the
Super Bowl, which is, Yeah, the superb Owl is going

(29:45):
to be on Sunday, so that's why we can't have
Last of Us come out the same day that the
superb Owl takes fly. So so yeah, we're gonna get
that today instead. And episode four also great. Doesn't hit
nearly to the same degree as episode three did for
me as emotionally, but as an episode it was great.

(30:07):
So I kind of like that though, because you know,
the first episode was very emotionally hard hitting, and then
the second episode was still like, still emotional, there's still
bad things that happened, but it was a much easier watch, right,
And then episode at least according to you, for me,
episode one wasn't horrible because I didn't know what to expect,

(30:27):
so I had a little bit less like anticipation for it.
You know, Episode three again very emotional, very um heart
string pulling, and then so like they're giving you, yeah,
an episode to recover. They're not making it all difficult,
which is especially great for anybody like me who maybe

(30:48):
is not doesn't have the time always to watch them
when they come out. So I have not watched two
in a row. Uh my, as I said, my friends
and I are also watching Hunters, which is an Amazon
series which deals with you know, very very serious subject matter,
and watching two episodes of that in a row is
real difficult. Yeah, well, I look forward to catching up

(31:10):
so we can talk about it, because it's I'm the
only one like my My partner is not watching this
with me, so I have no one to talk about
listen this with, and it's driving me crazy. Listen, my
partner is not watching it with me either, and it's
not that he doesn't want to. It's that it's playing
the game. He hasn't played the game yet, um, but

(31:33):
he feels like he should play the game first because
he doesn't want to ruin the game. But I'm like,
you know what happens, I'll probably convince him. But unlike
Stranger at the beginning of Stranger Things, I think I've
grown to a point where like, I've watched the first
two episodes by myself and I was fine, so it'll
be good. I also don't think that that it's I
don't think it's as as gross horror scary as a

(31:56):
lot of other zombie type films. Also, I saw this
whole thing on I think it was the Mary sue
about we shouldn't call them zombies because they're not zombies,
and then other people pointed out, hey, you know, zombie
originally did not refer to the resurrected dead. It referred
to people who were under magical influence to the point

(32:17):
where they are essentially hypnotized and they have no real
willpower of their own. They're still alive. So by that set,
you can still call this a zombie series. Yeah. I
think really the naming thing is kind of it's kind
of pointless to go through it because, um, you know what,

(32:39):
you know what someone means when they say zombie, like
you're thinking, okay, largely mindless, uh and and eager to spread.
But to me, zombie doesn't even like to me, if
you're being actively controlled by someone using magic so that
you don't have your own mental capabilities, which I know

(32:59):
I have a lot friends who have issues watching that
kind of a thing, right, Um, because it's scary to
think of not of having somebody else being in control
of your faculties when you are not. That's that's a
horrible thought, right Uh. That to me feels very active,
and I think it should be different than than zombie,
which to me should be creatures or a group of

(33:20):
creatures that are being controlled passively by another entity. Interesting.
That's interesting because again, like the original version of Zombie
was all about kind of a voodoo who do sort
of uh element, which was more of that that you know,

(33:41):
some practitioner using people as there there you know, slaves
essentially through the use of these magical abilities. But that
that's a you know, debate that will go on forever
whether you call them zombies or not. It's fine. I
do think though that the series doesn't have the same

(34:03):
kind of gross out terror that a lot of zombie
films have, but it has a lot of psychological tension
and and some of that comes from the zombies, but
for me, just like in the game, most of it
comes when you're encountering other people. Listen. That's that's always
the hardest for me to pretend monsters are so much

(34:23):
less scary than well, and The Walking Dead really kind
of has traumatized everybody because that was that was a
lesson that was hammered home every single darn episode of
The Walking Dead is that people are the worst zombies.
Zombies you can deal with because you know what they're
gonna do. But people are terrible. I that that is true. Also,

(34:46):
the scariest episodes of Supernatural are the ones that are
dealing with just horrible people and non supernatural monsters. Um
that that one of the convention where you've got all
those irritating convention attendees the worst uh moving God. So
we do have some news that we thought we might

(35:07):
talk a little bit longer about. I think we did
pretty well with our thirty seconds or less. We only
had a couple that went way over. Yeah, we only
only like most of them. Uh, we do. We do
want to say that we're not going to talk about
any of the ads that are supposed to air during
the Super Bowl because Aerial plans on watching it and

(35:27):
she doesn't want to be spoiled. Yeah. Yeah, Like, to me,
talking about a commercial before it airs is just kind
of why. But for me talking about a commercial after
it airs, I'm also like why. And I realized it's
exactly what the ad executives want you to do, which
is why I don't do it fair enough. Except I

(35:48):
talk about trailers all the time on this show. They're
a little bit different. Um, not really, but in my
in my head, I'm going to say so I feel better.
So the first thing we wanted to talk about is
amc UH announced that they are doing tiered pricing for
going to see a movie. Yeah, the idea being that

(36:08):
you know, based upon the site lines that are available
in the theater, you will pay a different amount for seats.
So like seats that are in the front row or
that are way off to one side or the other
will be the cheapest seats. Seats that are in the
center further back are going to be more expensive. And
those ones that are right in like that center area

(36:30):
where like a lot of theaters have that that very
wide divide between the front half of the theater in
the back half the theater. I don't know about anyone else,
but like my go to is getting some seats in
the middle of the row that is behind that wide divide,
Like that's that's the space that I like. I know
some people really like the back of the theater, but

(36:52):
those are going to be the ones that are going
to be the more expensive. And um, I mean, you
understand why they're doing this money, but the reason they
gave was bullpucky in my humble opinion. Explain. So the
reason that was given was that AMC wanted to give

(37:15):
viewers the chance to secure the specific seats they want
in order to see UH any given film. And I'm
thinking we already have that because we have reserved seats
in a lot of theaters, so you don't need tiered
seating for you to achieve what you say the goal is.

(37:35):
We got that. We we have solved that problem. We
no longer have to show up at the theater two
hours early to wait in line outside the theater so
that we can get our favorite seat. We can just
reserve it. What you're doing is ascribing value to the
most desired seats so that only the people who are

(37:56):
willing to pay that much get them, and may be
people who don't get to go to movies that often
don't even have the you know, they might be like, well,
I can't really justify spending five dollars more per ticket.
Let's say to get these great seats, we're gonna go
and sit off to the side. And it's just like,
it's such a change from the way we go to

(38:20):
movies here in the States that it really sticks in
my craw It's very clearly based upon things like the
way theater tickets are are priced, Like if you were
to go see a show on Broadway, you would find
that there are entire banks of seats. They have very
very different costs associated with them, and it's usually for

(38:42):
things like line of sight and how close or far
away you are to the stage. You know, so a
couple of things. They also want people to sign up
for their Stubs program because AMC is saying that if
you are a stubbs member, those some of those premium
thieves will be waived. Um. But the front row definitely
is a worse viewing experience, even if, in my opinion,

(39:05):
even if you have a reclining seat. I know, I
know some people who think that if you have a
reclining seat, it's perfectly fine. But I just find it
hard to follow everything. Yeah, I can't. I can't do it.
Like I will miss stuff in the movie because I'll
be looking at one quadrant of the screen and something
else happens in a different quadrant, and then later in
the film I'll be like, well, where did that happen?

(39:25):
And like, oh no, that was in the upper right corner.
You were looking at the lower left corner. But I honestly,
if I'm sitting on a far end of a row,
which I'm guessing will also be cheaper seats. Yeah, it's
not a bad viewing experience as long as I'm far
enough back. Yeah, it's it's fine. I just have that
like I don't. I also don't like the feeling of
leaving a theater and I can't turn my head to

(39:46):
the left or to the right because I've been holding
it in that position. Especially considering that you directors out there,
you know who you are. You directors who are determined
to make every movie four hours long. Stop it, stop it.
You are a menace and you have to stop. Look.
One of our friends, who holds an Oscar party every year,

(40:07):
watched a bunch of the Oscar movies recently and was like,
why are they all over two hours? This is unnecessary?
And I agree, Um, we used to get great movies
for an hour and a half. And other thing that
the at least the article in the Verge that uh,
We're going to link to about AMC siteline pricing if
you want to learn a little bit more, thanks the
question if you don't have a sold out theater, how

(40:29):
do you make sure someone who's bought a less expensive
ticket doesn't sit in a more expensive seat because I
know so many people who move around, and especially like
during the pandemic, where I've only bought tickets two shows
that like are pretty much empty. And then you're like, okay,
but I've got two other people or four other people
in the theater with me because it's a late at
night show or middle of the day on you know,

(40:50):
you know, it's it's it's not a popular time, it's
not a prime viewing time, and so I picked seats
far far away from them, and then they moved to
seats closer than me, and I'm like no, and I yes,
that does happen. I also want to point out something
else you mentioned earlier that this is in part an
attempt to get more people to sign up to a

(41:11):
m C S stub service. Everyone out there, I'm sure
is already aware of this, but I'm just going to
re emphasize it. That's because that means that every time
you you are purchasing tickets at AMC, they're gathering data
about you, and that data has value, and so they're
making money off of your information. So it's not like

(41:32):
it's not so much that you're getting fees waived, you're
getting those fees offset by the data that they are
harvesting from your participation in that program, and so keep
that in mind. Like it's important to remember. I know
that we can't really control our information to any decent

(41:53):
extent in this country because that's just not been a
priority here in the States, but it's always good to
at least mindful of it so that you understand what
you're trading away when you get in these programs. Now,
I say that as someone who actually has an AMC
Stubs membership, so I was aware that what was going
on when I did that, But I think people need

(42:14):
to keep that in mind. I do. I do think
it's interesting because that's not something I had thought of.
But at the same time, I'm like, every time I
watch a TV show or YouTube clip and there's a
commercial that I don't skip, that information goes somewhere, you know.
And for AMC Stubs, if they're trying to figure out
what kind of commercials or movies I want to watch,
then you know, yeah, just just how to market to you.

(42:35):
I mean based upon like if you're going to a
lot of Marvel movies, for example, you might discover that
you start seeing more ads for geeky stuff. And part
of that could be not just that AMC has your data,
but that they sold it to someone else who's making
use of it like that. It's just things to keep
in mind. Um And and you know it's I am.

(42:58):
I am clearly not a fan of this decision. I
think it's ultimately going to hurt AMC more than it
will help it, because you've already got a lot of
people who are kind of like me who are saying
I don't see the benefit of the theater experience in
most cases. So I'm not going to bother going. Well, really,

(43:18):
you're giving another reason for those folks not to go. Yeah,
if you've got different opinions, we'd love to hear from you,
you can write us and tell us. We'll tell you
how at the end of the show. But speaking of
falling prey to advertising, Jonathan, I want to talk about
this six thousand, one hundred and sixty seven piece Rivendell
set from Lego. Well, I have always been curious how

(43:40):
much does it cost to build Rivendell? Yes? And now
you know, yeah, does it say yes exactly? It's fours.
It comes out on March a little a little less
than a month away. It is the largest Lord of

(44:02):
the Ring set that we have gotten from Lego, and
I will admit Lego has gotten so much of my money.
We have so many Lego sets in my house and
we decorate with them. So yeah. At first, I was like,
they're just going to live in the basement, which is
kind of our geek entertainment center. It's where we've got
like our one up console and are all of our
movies and comics and things like that and games. Um,

(44:26):
but now they've like, I've got the Bond's Eye Tree
and it's sitting up on my fireplace mantel. And Um,
my husband doesn't listen to this podcast, so I can
say I bought him the Bird of Paradise Lego set
because Birds of Paradise play a large part in Far Escape,
which is a show that he really likes. Uh for
Valentine's Day. So um yeah, but we've got the piano,

(44:48):
We've got the ns We've got the n S TV.
We've got the Bad Plane, We've got uh Yoda, We've
got the Ghostbusters Firehouse. We've got a sturdy night Yeah. Um,
we've got a We've got Optimist Prime, who is really
cool because he actually transforms into a truck and then
back into Optimist prime without you having to like disassemble him.

(45:11):
That's awesome. Yeah, I have none of these things. They
are fun, they are fun, but they take up a
lot of space. That's why I do not have these things.
I have no space to take up. All my space
is already taken up by too much stuff. So but
I mean, for Lord of the Rings fans who are
also Lego fans, I think this could be one of those,

(45:33):
you know, put it on your wish list type of
of sets. I'm a Lord of the Rings fan, I've
got a tattoo to prove it, but I am not
I'm not a Lego guy, So this, while I appreciate it,
is not on my you know, like, could someone please
buy me this list? Fair enough? I think that, Um,

(45:54):
I think that the detail in the set is really spectacular.
Um the d Any, any kind of like recreation set
that Lego does for adults, has a lot of really
cool hidden details, and I think that's awesome. Um the
thought that they put into making it a good building experience.
Because the Rivendel set, which again you can uh either

(46:15):
look up you can either google it or you can
go to our show notes and we'll have it. There
has so many characters in it that are all lego figures.
It it feels a little bit more cartoony to me
than maybe some of their other recreation sets, but I
still think that the detail is spectacular great. I look
forward to them releasing the Loft Lourean set where you
can get the version of glad Riel where she becomes

(46:40):
great and terrible, awesome, silvery and her hair is going
all over the place. I look forward to that set. Uh.
Speaking of Great and Terrible, are you now looking forward
to History of the World Part two? Because we got
a new trailer which they called the first trailer, but
we already saw a teaser trailer which was also a
full on trailer. So yeah, I'll say this, I thought

(47:03):
this trailer was better. There were some jokes that I
actually found pretty amusing. Uh, I'm not like sold on it.
I don't know if I'm going to ultimately feel like
there are more jokes that hit than miss, but I
will say I think this was a much better trailer
than the original one we got. Also, I will say

(47:27):
that for a brief moment there I was convinced they
had wholeheartedly stolen from the musical Something Rotten. I I
agree with you. I had the same exact thought because
in the trailer Shakespeare talks someone tries to sell a
musical to Shakespeare and in the musical Something Rotten, in

(47:48):
case you are not aware, in case you're not a
Broadway geek like we are, Something Rotten is the story
of this down on his luck playwright who is a
contemporary of Shakespeare's and he's sick of Shakespeare hogging the spotlight,
and he goes to a soothsayer who predicts that there's

(48:11):
going to be this form of entertainment, the musical, that
will be huge. Unfortunately, the soothsayers looking into the wrong century.
So he convinces this playwright to make a musical so
that he can end up being the celebrated playwright of
London as opposed to William Shakespeare. And for a moment,

(48:31):
there's a joke in this History of the World to
trailer where it feels like they're going down a very
similar path. There is a subversion there although that we
also got to see moments from a musical number. It
just happens to be a musical number. About I think
Stalin Maybe I wasn't sure. It's Jack Black Yeah yeah, um,

(48:54):
which you know, great singer, so uh so yeah, I
thought the trailer was better too. I'll probably watch it
and go in with absolutely no expectations, um of anything good,
and then maybe I'll chuckle. Um. I will say there
was a joke that did make me laugh, but I
also can't repeat the joke in this podcast. But it

(49:18):
has to do with a certain famous book. Oh yes,
that also made me laugh. Also made me laugh. Um.
Going from funny too scary. We got a new trailer
for The Consultant. We talked about this a few episodes back.
It's um Christoph Waltz being basically this guy who comes
into help run a company when their leadership dies, and

(49:41):
it's really creepy and it looks like there's a lot
of like kidnapping and murder and scary stuff. And it
just reminded me of that old children's book Miss Nelson
is Missing, but like darker and Miss Nelson is missing,
there's a school teacher nobody ever listens to her, and
so she goes out sick and this uh, this horrible substitute,
Miss Viola Swamp comes in and it's very mean to

(50:05):
the kids that the kids are like, oh man, we
wish we had Miss Nelson back. And then at the
end it turns out Miss Nelson was Miss Viola Swamp,
but the kids never found out. They just behave better
for her. I don't know. It feels like a very
dark version of that. Here's something that I think is
really fascinating. Aerial mhm. I realize I'm familiar with the
book you described, but I had no idea what you

(50:27):
meant when you wrote it in our show notes, because
I had no memory of that story just based on
Mrs Nelson or Miss Nelson. But as you described, I'm like,
oh my gosh, I've read that book. I know what
you're talking about. It's it's one of those books that
you know, it's been a long time since I read it,

(50:47):
because it's been a long time since I've either taught
children or have been a child. But it's integral to
like my growing up. It's one of those books along
with like Phantom Toldbooth and Never Ending Story and Lord
of the Rings that just stuck in my memory. Donotopia.
Um yeah, I uh so, this is the Consultant. The
series is actually based off a book. Oh, okay, so

(51:09):
it's not missing, but not miss Nelson is missing. No,
not that one. I forget the name of the author.
I'd have to look it up again. But he's an
author who has a ton of books that are mostly
following the the the title format of the and then
whatever it is, like the consultant, the waitress, the accountant,

(51:32):
things like that. The author is Bentley Little, Bentley Little,
and uh and Bentley Little does not give interviews, He
does not tend to promote his books. Uh, really leads
a very private life. And I was unaware of the
fact that this was based off a book till I
looked into it a little further and UM, yeah, I'm

(51:55):
curious about it because it does look pretty intense. I
wonder how close it will follow the book. I know
that previous adaptations of Little's work. I've got the hiccups, y'all.
This is like this show is going to go off
the rails even more than um. But no, I know
previous adaptations of Little's work have taken great liberties with

(52:17):
his storytelling. And I don't know if how he feels
about it because he doesn't give interviews. But it's assume
he's irritated, though I guess the money all spends the same. Um.
The this trailer looks interesting. I think there's going to
be kind of a dark humor to it as well.
But the question I kept asking myself is if I

(52:37):
were in that situation, wouldn't I just like for real
Z's quit. I mean I would. Maybe they don't feel
like they could quit, or maybe they try and it
doesn't work. Um, and you might be going, well, this
this sounds more like intrigue. Why is it? Why why
do you have in geeky news? It's because it's like
a game company that the dude takes. It's like a

(52:59):
mobile gaming company. And that from why I understand, they're
supposed to be this merger that then falls through, and
that's why the consultant is called in is to fix
things after that. But as Ariel mentioned, there also appears
to be the murder of the boss. Or maybe it's
the suicide, or maybe it's a suice. Maybe it's a

(53:19):
murder that's made to look like a suicide. We don't
know yet. The trailer is purposely vague about that, which
makes sense. Um, Christoph Waltz just looks terrifying, as he
often does, even when he's even when he's playing characters
who aren't. I agree, I agree, um onto onto a

(53:40):
trailer that's a little less terrifying. Uh. The creative team
behind Spider Man into the Spider Verse has been up
to more stuff than just working on Spider Man War.
They're also behind a new series coming to Netflix called
cartoon series called Agent Elvis. Yeah, how do you feel

(54:01):
about this? You saw the trailer? I'm sure I don't so.
First of all, Matthew McConaughey voices Elvis, which is and
he sounds exactly like Matthew McConaughey. He does. He doesn't
sound even remotely like Elvis, unless you think Matthew McConaughey
already vaguely sounds like Elvis. Yeah, if you think someone

(54:23):
who has a Texas accent sounds like someone who was
from Memphis, then yes, like some people are Southern accent
agnostic and they don't know. But so, I didn't think
that this was a show that ever needed to happen.
It looks kind of cute, there's some cute little jokes.
It feels like, um, a more family friendly version of

(54:43):
Archer A little bit to me. Um. I do like
that they've got Elvis's families, um involvement, involvement and okay
behind it because I feel like that's important. I thought
it was weird because it doesn't look like like they're
they're making Elvis look very capable being an agent, right,

(55:06):
it doesn't. It doesn't look the comedy is going to
come from Elvis being fish out of water, not really
suited for this. It's weird. Why did they pick him?
He ends up being really capable at it, which just
I sit there and I look at and I think,
I don't I don't really understand the hook for the show.
So there are things where he's like, oh this, and

(55:27):
the person is like, like, there's a bit in the
trailer about what about this pen? Well, maybe that's just
a nice pen, you know. Yeah, But then he then
he throws the pen across a room and hits a
guy in the neck and kills him with it. But
it's but it's still just a pen um that he
can kill people with it. Like I'm laughing at you,
I'm not laughing at the show. Now, if I watched

(55:49):
the show with you and you try to explain all
the jokes to me, then I'm gonna be laughing, but
again not the show. Maybe that's what we need to
do with element No. So I feel like maybe it's
a get smart toit you ation, because because I can
get smart, he is a fish out of water. He's
not all there, but he is also very capable. Yeah,

(56:10):
I I don't know. Maybe maybe I'm just being too
harsh on it. I will say I looked into it
because I was curious who else was voicing, and there
I was wondering who was voicing his partner. It's Caitlyn
Olson Um and I didn't I didn't know that at first.
I had to actually had to go to the Netflix
page to find the information because I am dB only
lists Matthew McConaughey and the cast um Caitlyn Olson. I

(56:34):
love her. I love her, I love her and always sunny.
She's great, she is fantastic. She is very funny and
very talented. So I was wondering because I thought I
recognized the voice, but I couldn't place it. Uh. I
would probably watch at least a little bit of this
just to see what's going on, whether or not it

(56:55):
clicks for me. I mean, it's only fair, right, I
watched all of Thelm for goodness sake. Yeah, yeah, you
know what I will say though, I really like the
artistic style of it. It does look cute, like it's
interesting because it it doesn't. It doesn't immediately look exactly
like anything else, which is great. Right, It doesn't feel

(57:16):
like they're copying the style of some other cartoon property. Yeah,
I agree, I agree. Um oh man, we were almost
at now we have so much left to talk about, Okay,
So going on from something we don't know if we
need to something I personally don't see a need for
it all, which is we're getting a reboot of White
Men Can't Jump like the movie the original was Okay,

(57:42):
it was never something I felt needed to be revisited,
like we've got that movie. Yeah, no, I'm I completely
agree with you. It's one of those where it's like,
is there anything new to say that the original film
didn't say? Maybe say it in a way that's not
quite as dated, Like you could definitely do that, which
I think they've done if you've watched the trailer they

(58:02):
do they have updated some references. Yeah, it's it's just that,
um yeah, like like out of all the different stories
to tell, even to retell that one like. Generally speaking,
my thought is, if you're going to do a remake,
pick something that did not work for whatever reason, and

(58:25):
then make it in a way where it does work.
And that, to me is much more interesting than taking
something that worked just fine for what it was. It
wasn't brilliant, it wasn't groundbreaking, but it was successful. It
was it was not seen as a failure of a film,
either critically or commercially. Why remake that the original still there? Yeah,

(58:51):
which had Rosie perez and and Woody Harrelson and uh
Wesley Snipes. I think, Um, I mean again, I enjoyed
the movie. Fine, I was probably a little bit old,
Like I was probably a little bit young to fully
enjoy the movie. When I watch it, I'm gonna be
quite honest. Um, But yeah, I mean, if you like
White Man Can't Jump, if you're really like, if you're

(59:11):
like I like this movie, but it's outdated and I
want something that feels a little bit more current. Great,
I'm super excited for you. It looks the acting looks
good in the trailer, and it looks well shot. It's
just to me, I've got that story already. Yeah, I
mean I guess, I guess. So, like again, if you're looking,

(59:31):
the other reason I would think of a remake is
you want to tell a story that has been told before,
but you want to bring it up to date so
that current audiences can appreciate that story. White Men Can't
Jump does not quote unquote jump to mind as one
of the ones that I would pick for that kind
of treatment. But you know, it may turn out that

(59:53):
this is as big or bigger of a success as
the original. Yeah, I mean we didn't think that A
Top Gun. Well that was a sequel. But let's talk
about a different sequel then. Okay, I know what you
did last summer? Well, yeah, I was staying at home
because there was a pandemic going on. No, the it's
not a sequel. Oh it is a sequel. Um, I

(01:00:15):
was gonna say, it's no, it's a sequel to the movie.
I know what you did last summer. Yeah. So for
those who are unfamiliar with this horror series, so during
this time, there were a couple of horror series that
that kind of got uh some legs. Scream was the
big one, and we're still getting screen films to this Day,

(01:00:35):
and another one was I Know What You Did Last Summer.
The original movie had a group of kids who are
being irresponsible and driving down this dark road when they
hit a fisherman. Uh. And then they they rush off
trying to pretend like nothing happened, and they all swear
them each other to secrecy, and then my dog goes crazy.

(01:00:58):
Doesn't like the idea of a sequel to I know
he did last time. I think he doesn't like the
idea of an undead fisherman with a giant hook hunting
people down and killing them one by one, like originally,
like it's done where it feels like it's supposed to be. Oh,
the fisherman didn't die and eventually recovered and then is

(01:01:18):
now seeking vengeance on the people who were responsible for
his his accident, his injuries. Uh. But then by the
time you get into the sequels, you're like, well, that's
just can't possibly be. He's like some revenant. He's like,
he's like Freddie or Jason or Mike Myers. He's this
unkillable force that keeps coming back. And I don't know

(01:01:41):
what drove them to go and do another sequel, But
Freddie Prince Jr. And Jennifer Love Hewitt, who both appeared
in the original film, are said to be in talks
to appear in the sequel. Um Maybe it's yet another
another example of well here was the really popular series
that the kids who saw it back when it first

(01:02:04):
came out are now adults, possibly with kids of their own,
so let's tap into that market again. I would be
shocked to learn no, no, we we realized we just
hadn't told the whole story and we just had to
get back to it because I don't think that I
don't think I know what you did last summer falls
in that category. Yeah, i'd agree, But you know, as
much as I sometimes get grumpy about this, like, at

(01:02:27):
the same time, there are properties that I'm like, please
redo this, give me an amazing Phantom Toldbooth movie, because
that's what I love and what I want to share
with my kids. So I get if that's something that
was like really integral to your childhood and you want
to share it with your kids. But you know they're
going to have the Goonies effect if they watch it,
where they just don't like it because it's too outdated. Yeah,
I get it. I think what Ariel is trying to say,

(01:02:48):
is remake Krall? For goodness sakes, we need a new crawl.
I would watch it, um too. I love Krall. Okay,
it's not good, but I love it there. Look, they're
are movies that are not good that I love, and
there are movies that are not good that I wanted
to love that I just don't. I can't find anything redeeming. Um. Yeah,

(01:03:08):
but your cruel tattoo tells it all. She's got the
clave tattooed on her right shoulder blade, y'all? Is he
telling the truth? You likely won't find out. Okay, let's
move on. Chang Chang Chang ship. Wow, great, listen here,
beauty school dropout. I'll take it from here. So our

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next story is that we got another trailer for Grease,
Rise of the Pink Ladies, the series that that traces
the origin of the Pink Ladies gang that we see
in both Greece and Grease too. Uh. And we had
already seen a trailer for this we know, or at
least a teaser, so we knew that it was going
to introduce characters who are attending Rydel High years before

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the first film takes place, and that these are the
young women who are the founders of the Pink Ladies.
And in this trailer we got a little bit more
of a look at each of the members, kind of
get an idea of where their place is within the
society of Right L High, what the the mood and

(01:04:19):
culture is of the high school. It's pretty much what
you would suspect, uh. And we also got a word
for word recreation of the Pink Ladies Pact, which was
not in Greece. It was in Greece too. And and
y'all know, I love Greece too. I love Greece too.

(01:04:41):
I think it's a better I don't think it's a
good movie. I think it's more entertaining than the original Greece.
And I will go to my death thinking that not
for everybody, but for me, Greece Too is wonderfully bad.
I I would agree that Greece too is wonderfully bad. Um.

(01:05:02):
We also got some music, so we got to hear
some of the singing that will be in the show.
You know, it's it's interesting because I watched Greece at
a time where you know, I didn't think it's super
deeply about it when I first watched Greece because that
wasn't where I was in life. And I always thought
the pink ladies were like the cool kids, but in
this trailer, like it never dawned on me before this trailer,

(01:05:24):
quite honestly that these pink ladies were not the cool kids. Yeah,
that they capitalized on their not coolest coolness to become cool.
Did you ever see the film cry Baby the John
Waters cry Baby, but it's it's been a while, cry Baby,
Um is sorry. I watched a lot of critical role

(01:05:45):
and they have beaten that into me. But no, uh
So in cry Baby, you also have clicks in high school,
and you've got the squares who are all very straight laced,
clean cut kids, and you've got the drapes, and these

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are sort of the the dregs of society. They're like
the punks, the the greaser's, the all the different type
of characters that you would associate with the t birds
in Greece. And I feel like that is more of
a model of what we're seeing here, right, Like, these
are outcasts who have found each other and they bond

(01:06:28):
over their shared uh outcast nature, and that's where they
find that by by bonding together, they can be a
real like force in right l high and like this
makes total sense, Like she I I got the feeling now,

(01:06:49):
like they're not the popular kids. They're the kids that
parents warned their children about, like don't hang out with her,
she's a bad influence. Those are the kind of kids. Yeah, yeah,
uh well, I'm going to watch this. I'm I'm kind
of I'm kind of looking forward to it. Um, Jonathan,

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let me ask you, were you ever a fan of
the TV show Luther. I have not watched Luther. I've
seen so like I've always seen like the trailers and
always thought, wow, this looks amazing, like really really good.
It's it's the the story of a cop who's more
than willing to bend the rules a bit in order

(01:07:31):
to sometimes just not just been outright break rules in
the pursuit of his duties. And he's also perhaps a
little like shady in some ways. And I thought it's
kind of like The Shield but English, and and I
hadn't never seen it. I watched the trailer for The

(01:07:53):
Fallen Sun, which is the film the Luther movie that's
coming out, and holy cow, it looks good, like just
Elba looks he's so good I agree it like it
starts off. The trailer starts off with him in jail. Um,
so if you haven't watched the series, that's where this
character starts off and kind of escaping to hide a killer. Um, yeah,

(01:08:18):
it was. I watched a little bit of Luther when
it first came out, and it was very dark, and
at the time that was not something I incredibly appreciated,
So I didn't watch enough of it, but I did
like what I watched. You know. It's just one of
those things where you're like, when you're going, what do
I want to watch? And if you don't feel like
something super darky, just don't go back to it. Right.
Um this, this trailer looks fantastic everything except for Andy

(01:08:39):
Serkis's hair. Andy Serkis plays the villain in this, and
his hair is weird. It's listen, Ariel. His hair is
so important, clearly that's his motivation for becoming a killer.
Just just too much volume. It's just his hair is
bad and he has to act out it's so bad. Um,
you know, I I look forward to Andy Serkis is

(01:09:02):
a good actor, he plays a good villain. I look
forward to watching it. I'm gonna watch this. I don't
know if I need to watch all of Let me guys,
if you've watched all of Luther, let me know if
I need to watch all of Luther too to watch
Fallen Sounder. If I could just jump into the movie,
they've written the movie, well, I can just jump in.
It definitely looks really compelling. Like the trailer is very
very well done. It's you know, you wrote in our

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notes here that it gives a very double O seven
kind of vibe, and I totally get that as well,
Like it's double O seven mixed with a little Jason
Bourne Idricelba. And by the way, if they remade the
board identity and put Idris Elba And even though he's
older than Matt Damon was when he made those movies,
Holy crap. When I watched that, is it isn't that? Who? Um?

(01:09:47):
Oh my gosh, why can't John Krasowski is playing right now?
Oh Born? Maybe I thought he was playing Reacher. You're
you're right, he's playing Wait, no, no, he's not Reacher
because Reacher is a different series. Is Oh he's playing
He's No, we're mixing up all of our our stupid
white heroes. Uh. He was Jack Ryan Jack Ryan, Yes,

(01:10:09):
from like like I think of him from The Hunt
October and Clear and Present Danger. But yeah, so he's
he's following in the footsteps of people like Alec Baldwin
and Harrison Ford. Uh No, I would love to see
Idris Elba in anything. Just keep keep casting him. He's great.
I agree, I agree. All right, we have two more
news stories He's probably could have gone into thirty seconds

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or less, which is Disney released a bunch of sequels.
We're getting Toy Story five, another Frozen, and another's Utopia,
which I think are necessary. No, they announced these first
of all. Okay, they announced these during an earnings call,
because we're in the the span of time where publicly
traded companies hold earnings calls with their investors to say

(01:10:53):
how the last quarter of the last year went. With Disney,
it went all right, except for the fact that they're
still planning on cutting seven million dollars, and it sounds
like that's all coming from the parks, which for people
who were really excited about possibly seeing Bob Iger invest
more in the parks, it's probably a huge disappointment. They're

(01:11:15):
also laying off around seven thousand employees which is really tough.
Training is still losing money. Not a big surprise there, um.
But in the process they announced these these sequels. Uh.
It does not do the many favors among the Disney
fans who have been saying that the company has been

(01:11:38):
creatively bankrupt and is leaning far too heavily on established
I p instead of creating new stuff. That being said,
we did. We have received lots of new Disney films
over the past few years, like Turning Red and Incanto.
You know those were those were those were not sequels
to existing properties, and they're fantastic. Um. But yeah, I

(01:12:03):
in particular, I am disappointed to hear there's going to
be yet another Toy Story movie. Toy Story four was
unnecessary already. I don't know where they go with Toy
Story five because spoilers for anyone who hasn't seen Toy
Story four. But the toys are split up now like
Woody is no longer with the gang. It's the reunion show.

(01:12:26):
Please no, please no, just look, I didn't watch Toy
Story four, despite the fact that there were some new characters.
They added that I thought looked fun um, you know,
Duck get funny, and well they had to sell more toys. Yeah, um,
but I didn't watch it, but yeah, I think it's unnecessary. Okay,
maybe we could get a seconds Utopia, but um, I

(01:12:49):
don't know. I also don't think Frozen three is like
I really, I mean, I get it, like Frozen is
like a huge money maker for or Disney. As his
Toy Story, I don't know. I I've seen. I've seen
the Toy Story franchise. I have to tell you that,
in my opinion, the first film is probably my favorite,

(01:13:14):
simply because that was also I saw it when it
came out. Actually, one of the first dates I ever
went on with my partner was Toy Story, the original
Toy Story. I took her to see it and she
was not convinced she would like it, and by the
time we walked out, she was like, you were right.
That was amazing, and and so that I have special

(01:13:37):
emotional attachment to that movie. I think Toy Story too.
First of all, I had one of the most heartbreaking
songs ever recorded play in the middle of that and
be like, hey, do you want to cry now, because
we're gonna make you do that. Um, and then uh
was just really heartfelt and entertaining and then Toy Story three,

(01:13:59):
I tend really, I know a lot of people felt
like they were completely like devastated by that. It didn't
affect me like that. See, that was like I guess it.
I guess it's just a point of where where you
are in life. And I'm not saying like how old
you are, but just where you are in your journey
of life on on how that affects you, because I know,
for like me and our good friend jen Uh, Toy

(01:14:21):
Story three was incredibly emotional. Um for me, it was
the most emotional of all of them. But then again,
I liked Toy Story one, but I felt like the
second half was just a giant chase scene and that
got boring to me. Um, which I know you dislike
and disagree with, and so I'm sorry for even bringing
it back up. No, No, I think I think it's
a valid criticism. I I found it and entertaining watch.

(01:14:43):
But you're right, I mean it is pretty much of
an extended chase sequence. M hm. Um. So like, honestly,
if you break down a lot of like pixarchist neat movies,
so they turned into that. I mean, cars has to
be right because it's all about rais. Yeah, cars a
little bit. Finding Nemo, um so and I love finding Nemo.

(01:15:06):
Best best musical at Disney World, um when it was there,
but just you gus had a few misses. I know that. Um.
Someone was telling me that there, like their new Tron
coaster was not necessarily as well thought out as it
could have been, based on like the size of sizing
the the size of the average size of of the

(01:15:26):
park attendee in the US versus the average size of
the park attendee in Tokyo, which is where the tron
cycle Shanghai, Shanghai. I am sorry, I am very wrong.
Please forgive me Shanghai. Uh. There's just like the average
person is a different size, and they didn't resize the
cars to suit, which is honestly an oversight. I'm surprised

(01:15:48):
they made Yeah me too, um. You know uh, I
am not a tall guy, so I suspect that I'll
be able to right it just fine when I next
go to Disney, which will be in December. Um, and
maybe Ariel will be there too. We don't know yet,

(01:16:10):
depends on my amount of p t O um. But yeah,
well we'll have to see. Um. I know that Disney
has good things in the work that are not at
least not derived off of other Disney pre established movies.
They might be derived off of other works, But um,

(01:16:32):
I am excited about things in the Disney milieu, but
that are coming up. But I just, yeah, these these
three things, why, why is this what you're announcing? I
think they should be direct to like streaming direct to
Blu ray. Yeah. Yeah, well it's it's kind of like
back of the old director VHS tape days where we
got all the different sequels to Disney films King and

(01:16:55):
Aladdin and all that. Yeah, Bob Iger did say, although
and I'll believe it when I see it, but Bob
Baker did say that the creative side, for you know,
being like all the the shows and films and stuff
that are produced, that they were going to take a
more methodical and thoughtful approach to that to make sure

(01:17:16):
that they produce things that are proud of and that
are that that meet the standard and not just turn
stuff out, which I would actually really welcome. I feel
like Marvel has suffered from that a bit Star Wars certainly,
I feel has suffered from that. So if if that's

(01:17:40):
actually true, uh, and if they really do focus on things,
and if the people who have the really cool creative
ideas actually get the opportunity to tell the stories that
they're thinking up, I think that would be incredible. I
am skeptical just because like when you're announcing stuff and
it's all sequels to existing I p. It doesn't seemed
to back that up. But you know, we'll hold out hope.

(01:18:03):
I mean also like there's that awkward there's that awkward
adjustment of like chap Pick leaving and coming back and
everything from the pandemic, So like there is a little
bit of grace there, but it definitely is to me
falling below what they have set their standard as well,
and he he did. Tiger also did say he reiterated

(01:18:26):
that he is not back for good. His plan is
to lead the company for a couple of years while
creating a better succession plan. I'm i which is good,
but like he was involved in the last succession plan
and that's when shape It came in. So I don't

(01:18:46):
again like I'm holding out hope, but I am not
overly confident. But you know, maybe maybe in a couple
of years we'll say, wow, what a phenomenal trad insformation
and keep in mind, like, as as hard as I'm
coming down on Disney right now, I still love a
lot of the stuff that they've produced over the last

(01:19:09):
couple of years. It's it's not really the company's fault that, uh,
or at least it can't be entirely their fault that
A lot of the stuff that I saw didn't resonate
with me, but things like Incanto totally yeah. Yeah. Um,
well we're uh, we're coming to the end, just like
our last story. Uh. We got a trailer for the

(01:19:31):
final season of The Flash. I haven't watched watched the
last couple of seasons. I honestly thought the show was
already over. Um it looks I mean, it looks good.
If you like the Flash, it looks like they're they're
really working on tidying and tidying it up. But at
the same time, it kind of feels like more of
the same to me. I, Um, I've missed a few

(01:19:53):
episodes of The Flash. I've missed the last eight seasons. Um, okay,
and this is the trailer for season nine. Mm, so
I haven't seen any but you know, if if you
are if you are a completionist, or if you really
like the Flash. I really liked the first few seasons
of The Flash. It wasn't a perfect show, but it
was quite enjoyable, and I liked all of like the

(01:20:17):
crossover episodes of everything. Um, yeah, the trailers out, so
now you can kind of see what you're in for.
Is the story wraps up? Yeah. I thought the trailer
looked looked good. I mean like, as I was watching it,
I was thinking, Okay, I don't have the context. I
don't know who these characters are, I don't know what's
immediately going on here. But if you divorce yourself from that,

(01:20:37):
I thought the trailer was well made. I thought people
look like they were really putting their all in the
production of the show. Like, it looked good. It looks
like a good show. It's just a show that I
never started to watch, which is like, looking back on it,
I think it's kind of crazy that I never got
into all the DC television and stuff, because, unlike the films,

(01:21:03):
I felt the TV universe of DC was doing things
in a way that made a lot more sense to
me than the films did. And and for me, because
I did watch many seasons of Arrow, and I gave
up on Legends of Tomorrow far too soon. You know.
I watched some of Constantine, the little bit we got
of it, and I watched a lot of The Flash. UM,

(01:21:26):
and I watched a lot of Supergirl. UM. I thought
the casting in these shows it was really really good.
Grant Gustin as as the Flash is endearing. I really
like him as the character. I really like Iris West,
I really like Joe West, I really like Cisco um
and and all of the other characters. UM. I can't

(01:21:46):
remember all the actor's names at the moment, but I
have really enjoyed the casting. I've really enjoyed their acting.
The writing hasn't always been great, but their performances have
always been stellar, to the point where sometimes I have
preferred them over the movie versions. Well. I mean, I
remember when they were talking about the casting of Justice League,
where you had a very vocal fan base of the

(01:22:08):
Flash television series fans who were incredibly disappointed that they
went with Ezra Miller. Yeah, but I mean, you know,
and Ezra Miller's character for all of the actors flaws,
UM was interesting. It was a really interesting take. UM.
But yeah, I I really like Grant Gustin. UM. I

(01:22:30):
think he would have been great in the movies, you know.
But in this new d C you we will get
someone who can crossover if needed, or will cross over
if they show up in both TV and movies. Um.
But just as the Flash is coming to an end,
so is this episode. Thank you for sticking through all
of it with us. Yes, it's been an epic episode,

(01:22:53):
only slightly less epic. Once I take out the coughing
fit I had in the middle that y'all won't have
to here. Ariel will me to hear some of it.
It was only like three seconds. It's not going to
be Um. But yeah, if you have, you know, thoughts
on anything we talked about, you should write us and
tell us. Jonathan, I am afraid to ask. But how

(01:23:16):
can they do that? It's very very simple. So you
get yourself a pen and a piece of paper, and
you put your your non dominant hand down on the
piece of paper. You fan your fingers out, trace your
fingers very methodically, and when you're done, remove your hand

(01:23:37):
from the piece of paper and then fill in the
details to make the little outline you've created your hand
into a turkey, and just think about the question you
want to ask me. As you decorate your turkey, just
imbue that turkey with the question that turkey's mind has

(01:23:57):
one thing in it and it's your question to me.
And when you are done, you will fold this sheet
of paper with your turkey on it into the shape
of a paper airplane. Go to the highest point of
your general vicinity, toss that into the air, immediately turn around.
Do not watch where it goes. If you do, I
will not get your question, and then it will journey

(01:24:19):
to me, whereupon I will be able to read your question,
and I will answer by whispering into your ear late
at night, because I'm in your room. I'm always there.
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