Failing our Saving Throw Against Grease 2

We talk about upcoming films, how Wizards of the Coast has poked a hornets nest by changing the Open Game License, and why Jonathan wants a cool rider. A cool, cool, cool, cool rider. A C-O-O-L R-I-D-E-R.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:13):
Hey, everybody, Welcome to the Largen or drunk Ladder podcast,
the podcast that's all about the geeky things happening in
the world around us and how very excited we are
about them. I'm Ariel casted and with me as always
is uh, well not as always is my cat Harvey,
who is looking over my shoulder right now, but then
also my wonderful, amazing friend and co host Jonathan Strickland,

(00:35):
and Ariel. I am so excited. I can't wait for
us to get through this episode because I have this crazy,
uh new source book for Dungeons and Dragons that I've
created and it's gonna be like a huge success and
I'm so I'm so jazz to talk about it. Well,
we will talk about that a little bit later in

(00:55):
the episode, um, because you might you might want to
hold up. There's a whole bunch of stuff going on
with the D and D Open gaming license right now,
as probably most of our listeners know. Yeah, yeah, well
we'll have our take on that, and yeah, I was
just being a cheeky little monkey to talk about such things,

(01:19):
but yes, we will definitely be dedicating a little bit
of time to talk about that. It's an ongoing, developing story.
So obviously we're not going to uh definitively state our
thoughts one way or the other, because um, you know,
it's a it's flexible. Yep. And we do have a

(01:39):
thirty seconds or less to start this episode off with.
But before we do, I just want to say thank
you to listener Sean for reaching out and telling us
that we were derelict, but in a much nicer way
to not include Doctor Who in last week's list of
things that are upcoming, because yes that we're getting the
new doctor this year, and the trailer for the special

(02:01):
with um uh Donna Noble and the doctor tenth doctor
uh David Tennant and um Neil Patrick Harris, it just
it looks bonkers. It looks delightful. So thank you Sean. Yes,
yes see, I disagree. We don't have a new doctor.
We have an old doctor, so to me it's just

(02:21):
a real But we have an old doctor followed by
a new doctor I think anyhow, that is something I
am excited for in So thank you Sean for reminding
us and calling us out. Even if Jonathan's a little
cranky about Doctor Who. Usually I'm cranky about everything, okay,
but now I'm gonna give you give you my crankiness

(02:42):
in short bursts, because it's time for thirty seconds or less,
and I have the first story, so I will get
started now. So we've heard that Francis Ford Coppola's Megalopolis film,
which is a science fiction film, or at least a
film that has science fiction tones to it, is currently

(03:02):
in trouble. It's shooting here in Atlanta where Ariel and
I are, but a whole bunch of the crew has
walked off. The creative team was fired. People are talking
about this being similar to the Trouble's Coppola ran into
with Apocalypse. Now, so who knows, Maybe we'll see a
documentary that's better than the movie done. Uh yeah, well

(03:23):
we'll see. It could be brilliant, it could be horrible. Okay, next,
are you ready, Jonathan, Yes, go all right. William H. Macy,
who I just watched in the latest episode of The
Connors last night, delightful show. Uh It has joined the
cast of the upcoming Planet of the Apes movie, Kingdom
of the Planet of the Apes. It takes place after
the last one that happened, which I think was War

(03:44):
for Planet of the Apes in two thousand and seventeen. Um,
I'm not caught up on the movies. I really did
like the first one, UM, and I like William H. Macy,
so I'm sure whomever he's playing, which we don't know yet,
will be brilliant. Yeah. The thing I like most about
these movies how many of those they can fit into
a title. Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes of

(04:08):
the Yeah, yeah, you're like, come on, okay, I'm sorry,
my next one and I'm ready to go. The Internet
is wondering if Kristen Ritter is going to reprise her
role as Jessica Jones in the upcoming Daredevil series, because
Miss Ritter recently took some selfies of her at the

(04:30):
Gem while wearing a Daredevil T shirt and kind of
hinting that she's getting ready for something, which, of that's
enough to to fuel speculation, but of course, we have
heard no word as of yet, and if it is true,
Marvel is probably pissed at her. Okay, yeah, I like
her care, I like her portrayal Jessica Jones. I don't
necessarily need a Jessica Jones series, but I'd be happy

(04:52):
to see her and they roll again, all right. I mean,
I love I love her version of Jessica Jones. I
would actually like to see street level characters in MC.
U like more of them because I think I think
that would give them opportunity to explore a lot more
stories rather than these huge, galactic, multi dimensional ones. I agree.

(05:14):
I agree, Um, Okay, we're getting a little bit out
of thirty sex. We'll bring it back in a second. Everybody, Uh,
I agree. I really liked her in the first season
of Jessica Jones. It was very difficult to watch, so
not everybody could watch it. I have multiple friends who
said just the content was was too much for them. Um,
I think she did great. I thought the second and
third seasons of her standalone show We're not great, and

(05:37):
um so I do want to see more street level characters.
I don't know if she warrants her own entire TV show,
though I would be totally up for getting more defenders. Agreed. Yeah,
everything I've I've only watched the I think I've only
watched the first season. Maybe I tried to watch the
second season, but yeah, I think that it's pretty universal
that the first season was great and or at least

(06:01):
was really well done, because as you say, it is
incredibly traumatic storyline. But yeah, I've gone way too long now,
and I apologize to all of our listeners out there
for violating the thirty seconds or less rule? Ariel, are
you ready for your next one? I am? Okay, go
all right. So we are getting a new try Gun show,

(06:23):
try Guns Stampede. We might have talked about it, or
we might have cut it from a previous lineup. However,
we just got news that Johnny Young Bosh, who was
the English voice actor for Vash the Stampede in the
previous TV series, will be coming back to play Vash again. Uh.
If you are not familiar with try Gun, it's it's
a fun like Western anime series. Uh and um. The

(06:45):
voice actor also was Adam Park, the second Black Ranger
in Mighty morphin Power Rangers. Cool, okay, I'm next up
and here I go. Giancarlo Esposito is tired of playing
bad guys and he wants to be a good guy.
Nows and thank you've done well, that's not thirty seconds.
He apparently has talked he would like to be Professor X.

(07:07):
He's apparently talked with marble Um executives, though nothing like
about being in the m c U and has put
it out there that he would like to be Professor
x UM. There's fan casting of him as Professor X.
I remember that distinctly when people were first talking about
the X Men coming to the m c U. Who
could play what? And he was one of the names

(07:27):
that fans were bandying about as a potential Professor X.
I think it's brilliant. I agree, and I'm totally behind
him saying, you know, I've played it. He plays a
lot of villains and I can get him. Get behind
him saying, yeah, we'll play a good guy for once.
And also Professor X is it's not always good. He's
usually good, but he's not always good. Um. But he
also he's complicated. He's called you know, as people are um.

(07:50):
Gian carl Esposito also does want a Gus Spring prequel
for Breaking bad Um, which is what he I think
is most known for. I would be for Guest Spring
is a really dynamic character with a lot of backstory
that we don't get much of. So yeah, we we
only get a hint of the things that happened in
South America before he came to the United States and

(08:11):
built up his Fried Chicken and meth Amphetamine Empire. Yeah, okay,
apparently we did. You know, some weeks, guys, we do
really good at picking our thirty seconds or less, and
some weeks we do really bad. This is the second.
Well that's okay, because this next one we could we
could dedicate an entire episode to this next thirty seconds

(08:31):
or less, but we will. We will do our best.
So Ariel, are you ready? I am ready? Go all right.
Brendan Frasier Brendan Fraser stepped out of UM the entertainment
industry after some horrible, horrible things that happened to him
that we're not his fault, um and is. But now
he's making a comeback and he's brilliant, and he has

(08:54):
said in an interview that he would be up for
playing being in another Mummy are uh Mummy movie or
to get that franchise back going and being a part
of it, um if. I don't know if he could
play the same character, but I would be. He's such
a good actor, and he's from every everything I've heard
about him and all the people that tertially that I

(09:16):
know that have worked with him. That's I may not
have used a word correctly there Um he's delightful and
I'm all for him doing anything and everything he can cool. Yeah,
I mean, I wish him all the best and to
get incredible roles and to continue to work. I mean,
to me, Brendan Frasier is sort of the definition of

(09:38):
the working actor. Like he has that kind of mentality,
like he loves to work and he's always looking at,
you know, what his next gig could be. And that's
kind of his approach. Like there are different ways to
approach acting, and I feel like he takes a very
sort of pragmatic, kind of practical approach to landing jobs
and getting work done. That doesn't mean that he doesn't

(10:02):
care about it, but that he views it. He views
it as I mean, that's his job, and um, you
know it's he is. He has made such entertaining films
in the past. I would love to see him in
more stuff, whether it is heavy dramatic stuff or more lighthearted,
adventurous kind of stuff like he used to do back

(10:22):
in the I mean, right now, you know he's in
Dooom Patrol and he's in he was just in the
whale Um and you know this is it's great to
see him making a comeback because he spoke out. I
think it was uh, he experienced some sexual abuse as
a young actor and spoke out against it and kind
of got blacklisted for a while and is still sticking

(10:42):
by his his morals and um, I think he boycotted.
Was it the Golden Globes that just happened? So um,
you know, I really appreciate UM an actor that really
stands up for what's right before UM taking advantage of
opportunities for themselves ELFs. And you know, he, like he said,
he's very versatile. He can do super dramatic, he can

(11:04):
do light hearted and fun. So I'm I'm very excited
he's back and making more content. Yeah something Now we're
ready to move into our news story something that I'm
excited about. But boy howdy, did this most recent trailer
really nailed down how dramatic this film is going to be?
Was the new ant Man film that's coming out this

(11:26):
year Man, the Quantumnia film where we're going to get
Kang reintroduced. He was originally introduced in the Low Key
mini series spoiler if you haven't watched that. But yeah,
I guess, like if you're the kind of person who
just watches bits and pieces of Marvel Entertainment. You're probably
left wondering what the heck is going on most of

(11:49):
the time because they have really interwoven these stories together. Yeah,
this new trailer, honestly, I was worried it was going
to be way too spoiler. There's so but it seems
like there's so much going on in the Quantum Verse
for this new ant Man movie that I don't think
it was. Um Personally, it looks interesting. It does look

(12:09):
a bit more dramatic, but it's an ant Man heist movie.
They're all his movies, so I'm sure it's going to
have some fun in there. Um. Maybe they'll meet the
real Bobba Yaga in the Quantum Verse. Okay, Yeah, First
of all, I have a whole thing about Bobba Yaga,
but I'm not going to bring it up because we
don't have a John Wick story in the lineup. But
it would have to do with the fact that they're

(12:29):
using the wrong word because Bobba Yaga is different from
what they're trying to say than John Wick movies. But anyway, Um,
they know. I was gonna say though that the the
the feeling I got when I walked away from seeing
this trailer was that some heavy stuff is about to happen,
like kind of like how we were saying with Guardians.

(12:50):
It looks like not everyone's going to make it out
of Guardians. I'm not convinced that there won't be at
least a couple of deaths in ant Man quantum Mania.
Like they're setting up the big, big bad for this
series of phases. So, if I had to guess, it
looks to me like the critical uh problem in Quantum

(13:13):
Mania is that Kang wants to get out of the
Quantum Verse, wants to use uh ant Man and his
compatriots as the way to escape the Quantum Verse and
thus begin his reign of terror across the multiverse, and uh,
you don't do that without breaking a few years. I

(13:34):
agree it honestly, Like King, they've sent King up to
be such an interesting character. I really like Jonathan Major's
in Um Lovecraft Country. I thought he was a phenomenal
actor Um, very very nuanced. Um really made me feel
for him as King. He is like and part of it,
I don't have a lot of a lot of you know,

(13:57):
content to go off of. He was at the very
end of low Key where he was all over the place, uh,
kind of like a theater kid. And then in Quantum Mania,
where he changes motivations within the trailer, or at least
it seems that way. Um, it feels to me like
he is playing Kang from the tiny bits we've seen

(14:19):
the way that ghost looked visually in the second Aunt
Man movie. Um, kind of the woman who was phasing
in and out where she just kept like getting all
these ghost images of herself, you know, hence the name. Uh.
And like I feel like Jonathan Majors is playing all
of these ghost images of the character of Kang, and

(14:40):
I'm really intrigued to see what the central motivation and
character of this person will be. Well, yeah, because in
the in the comics at least, and this has explained
a little bit in low key. Uh, there there's a
Kang and all these different multi verses, like in all
these different individual universes, and they kind of seek each

(15:04):
other out to try and become like the master Kang
of everything and everyone like like like there's a Kang
that's specifically going around murdering other Kangs in an effort
to stop a cataclysmic event, that kind of thing, And
you get the feeling like this is the king that

(15:24):
you definitely don't you don't want to let them out
of the cage. And I mean, obviously he has to
get out of the cage because otherwise the rest of
the phase five and six don't happen. So in my
brain immediately when you're talking about the one King running
running around killing other versions of himself, I'm like, Okay,
so he's playing a game of Highlander by himself. But

(15:45):
then I went one King to rule them all, um
the Highlander, it was different immortals. It's more like he's
playing a version of the one the jet leads. Okay, yeah, fair, fair,
But now we've got a couple great mash APD tour list.
That's true. That's true, the now in future King. Uh

(16:09):
so we've also I was just gonna say, could could
you say that he is causing a disturbance in the
Force of the mc U Oh nice, nice. I was
going to do a much closier segue, but yours is better.
So so, yeah, we got a trailer for a documentary
that's called a Disturbance in the Force that's about one
of the great lost works of entertainment. Uh piece that

(16:34):
a lot of people know about, some people have bootleg
copies of, but was has long since been disavowed by
the powers that be. Reportedly, the guy behind the whole thing,
ultimately behind the whole thing, wanted to destroy every single copy.
We are, of course, talking about the immoral class immortal classic,

(17:00):
the Star Wars Holiday Special. Yeah. Yeah, so now we
get you didn't want it to be made, you didn't
want to watch it. Well, maybe you did, maybe you
regretted it, maybe you loved it, But now you get
to see all of the turmoil behind it. I love
that the trailer for this documentary starts off with um
with an interview with Harrison Ford where he just denies

(17:23):
remembering making it and then um like strangles the host
for asking him about it. It's very funny. I hope
that was a bit and not actual anger. I'm sure
it was a bit. Oh, it was, clearly it was
definitely a bit. But yeah. There there's there's a lot
of little clips of people directly connected to Star Wars
who were, you know, actually talking about it. Uh, And

(17:44):
then the rest of the trailer goes into you know,
all these different folks talking about the making of the
Star Wars Holiday special. How did this become a thing?
How did the decisions to incorporate like television stars of
the late seventies to just play various random characters within

(18:04):
the Star Wars universe like b Arthur um and and
you know it's just Harvey Corman, those kind of folks.
It's very weird special. If you've never seen it, I
cannot recommend watching it. There's it's probably all on YouTube
at this point. But I don't recommend watching it simply

(18:25):
because it's not a so bad it's good kind of thing.
It's just it's a slog to watch that it is, Yeah,
the MST three. Okay, guys, don't even like touching it.
But if you do watch it, watch it with friends. Um.
And that's the only way to get through bad slog movies.
If you just need to be get that Chivo right

(18:46):
and be ready to to ride that fast forward button,
because there are sequences where you're just like, this is
this is just pain? Like either that or maybe you
like take that time to ask each other how they're
doing and what ambitions they have for the year or whatever,
because trust me, you do not want to actually watch

(19:06):
what's happening on the screen. There are some people who
love The Holiday Special Jonathan for what it is, not
for for being um something we don't know if we're
going to love or not. Because I'm gonna move on.
We could just get into this back and forth. I
don't think The Holiday Special is good, but um, I

(19:27):
did have fun watching it for certain definitions of the
word fun. Uh, we don't know if we're going to
have fun however, watching the Borderland's movie because original director
Eli Roth has stepped off to move on to his
next next project, and we're getting a bunch of reshoots
from Tim Miller, who if that name sounds familiar, it's

(19:48):
because he's the director of Deadpool, right, So reshoots are
not unusual. It often happens with movies where you get
to the edit and you realize, oh know, we need
a little more material here because this isn't clear in
the film, like the film no longer makes sense, or

(20:10):
we need another scene here to to carry the energy forward.
You know, there are a lot of different reasons, or
it may just be that, uh, you know, we could
do that better. Sometimes even that's the thing. So re
shoot does not necessarily mean a film is in trouble. Uh.
And bringing in a different director sometimes as an indicator

(20:30):
that a movie studio has lost faith in the original director,
but in this case, it really does seem like it's
more of a matter of scheduling deadline. The The The
News outlet stated that this was not a case of
eli Roth being fired from Borderlands, but rather that it's

(20:51):
a scheduling thing. So with all that in mind, there,
I don't think there's any reason yet to worry about
the quality of the film. You know, we still haven't
seen anything like even a teaser for this yet, really
not really, and um yeah, I think I think it's
too early to make a judgment. Honestly, the most ominous

(21:12):
thing to me is that I for like, this movie
was talked about and then kind of fell off the radar,
and now they're like reshoots. So when like, you forget
a movie is even happening and then you hear about reshoots,
it can it can feel a little bit um ah, unstable,
I guess, But there's there's no reason to believe that.

(21:33):
That's how I feel about the d n D movie. Right,
Like the d n D movie kind of we got
that one trailer that was very goofy, and then it
kind of dropped off the face of the planet for
I mean for a little bit. I think we have
the trailer like five or six months ago. Um. But
after we talked about this last week, Jonathan, I went

(21:54):
online to look to see if anything else had been
brought up about it, and they have like released all
like behind the scenes and snippets about different characters or
things with the cast. So they have been releasing some
some more content. It just hasn't been more trailers. Yeah,
because I haven't been seeking it out. I haven't been
seeing it, which is weird because my YouTube algorithm keeps

(22:16):
trying to share with me, uh, men's rights videos, which
is about as far away from the person I am
as you can get. And I'm wondering if YouTube is open.
I mean probably not. They probably aren't. Um. Now that's
that's weird. Every once in a while, I'll just get
like this long string of ads that I'm like, why

(22:39):
is this? Why are these ads? I'm getting something that
fell off of everybody's radar and then came back and
then fell off, and then came back and then fell off.
Is the Community movie. Because it's been talked about for
a long time and hasn't made any traction. Well, it
didn't make traction for a long time, but now it
appears that it really, most sincerely is going to be

(23:02):
a thing. Joel McHale was on a talk show and uh,
Jimmy Kimmel, I believe, and Jimmy asked him about the
possibility of the community stuff and he says, we're shooting
in June, so it looks like it looks like all
systems are go. You know. The last we heard there
was there was a a kind of a gentle commitment

(23:23):
on the studio side to produce a community movie that
would be meant for Peacock, so streaming on Peacock, but
we there was no word of a script yet. Dan
Harmon had said that they needed to get a script together,
and we didn't know which of the actors were going
to come back. We know now that most of the

(23:44):
actors are definitely signed on, but still Donald Glover and
et Nicole Brown Are and Chevy Chase are among those
who have not been confirmed to return. And I know
that I know for a lot of people, Uh, without
Donald Glover and and Evan it would be really it

(24:05):
just wouldn't feel right like it wouldn't feel like community
so much. So here's hoping they're able to be brought
on as well. And again, this one's going to be
for Peacock, So yeah, I guess we're I guess we're
really doing this. If they don't get Donald or Evan back,
are you going to still watch the movie? I'm sure
I will. I mean, I watched the sixth season, the

(24:25):
Yahoo season, so I watched the entire season that pretty
much didn't have them in it, and it's it has
its moments, it's still funny, and the characters are still
the characters I like, but but obviously the chemistry is
different because Donald Glover in particular, really brought an energy

(24:47):
into that cast that no other character is able to bring,
Like it's it's it's you, you miss it when it's gong.
Donald Glover is an amazing actor, and I'm sure that
he could step back into the role of Troy, but
he's also I mean, everybody is so much older now
and he was definitely one of the younger characters, so

(25:09):
I wonder if even the character would lose some charm
with him stepping back into it now these these years later. Yeah, yeah, like,
how would you treat the passage of time for that character,
would he have lost some of the naivete and the
kind of um thickness because he he he constantly gets

(25:31):
things wrong or misunderstands things, so presumably some of that
would have faded away. How would that manifest in the character,
you know, like ten years later? Um? Because you, like
you say, Ariel, you don't want you don't want everyone
to be static because that that's that doesn't feel like
that's a good choice. But if you change them too much,

(25:53):
then you run into the risk of potentially losing the
thing that had everyone fall in love with the series. Yeah, yeah,
well regardless of what they do. I only have a
few months now to catch up on Community. Um, but
I'm adding it to the end of my list. I
have mainlined that series. I think I've watched the whole

(26:14):
thing all the way through at least three times. I
think I'm only in season two or three. Um on Netflix.
But speaking of adults playing teenagers, uh, we got great
first look at the trailer for the new Pink Ladies
television series. The Pink Ladies, if you are not aware,

(26:35):
were the like the Girl Gang in Greece. Yeah. See
now the Pink Ladies packed is to act cool, to
look cool, and to be cool until death. Do they
part think pink that actually comes from Greece too? Did you? Yeah?
You remember that? Real well, Jonathan, I don't. I don't

(26:56):
think you're a good fit for the Pink Ladies, though
I own Greece too on Blu Ray. Now ask me
if I own a copy of Greece. Do you own
a copy of Greece? I do not. That's that's interesting
because I did enjoy Greece better than Greece to um
to Greece too. I enjoy Greece to the way you
say those Star Wars fans enjoy Star Wars Holiday Special. Look,

(27:20):
I get it, I get it, And you know, to
be fair with this trailer, obviously, it is definitely not
the same actors from the original movie in this new
TV series. And I don't even know if it's adults
playing teenagers in the in the series because I haven't
looked up the actor's ages. Hollywood's real good about hiding
stuff like that. Um, but it looks like it's This

(27:42):
show is also for Paramount Plus, it looks like, you know,
a musical retelling of of how the Girls got together.
It feels very true to the original stories. Yeah, I'm
not sure if it's even supposed to be. I mean,
maybe it's supposed to be the Pink Ladies of the
first Grease film, but it's set four years before Greece,

(28:05):
so nine. So if they're freshman, then yes, that would
be the same group, right, because by the time, as
we know, at the end of Greece, everyone we've met graduates,
so with apparently the exception of Frenchie, but everyone else graduates.
And so if this is n four, does that mean

(28:26):
that these are four freshmen who formed the pink Ladies
or is this an earlier class where they create the
pink Ladies and the pink Ladies becomes kind of this
mantle that gets passed down from class to class. And
I don't know the answer to that either. So looking
at the Coming Soon dot net article, it looks like

(28:49):
the main characters are Jane, Olivia, Cynthia, and Nancy and Hazel.
So my guess is that it's a group that founds
the pink Ladies and then later brings in yeah everybody else, right,
because either that or they either that are in the
process they end up giving each other nicknames like Rizzo
and Frenchy. But yeah, we will have to. I assumed

(29:12):
Rizzo was like the last name of the character. I
should know this because I'm such a big Broadway fan,
and of course Greece was a Broadway show before it
was ever a movie. But I have never ever seen
the stage version of Greece, which I understand is raunchier
and uh has slightly different songs than the film version. Yeah. Yeah,

(29:36):
there's an entire article, um actually question about this in
one of their musical episodes about what songs actually carry
over from one to the other. Originally, um, which is
not a lot? Not a lot? Um. Okay, Uh, we're
now entering into uh, Jonathan's favorite in my least favorite
part of any lineup, the spoopy such section. Yeah, turns

(30:00):
out there were a few horror related stories, and so
I put them all together, and first up, we have
a trailer for Evil Dead Rise. Now. Evil Dead is
a series that has kind of an identity crisis because
you have the original Evil Dead movies. The very first
one was meant more or less to be a serious

(30:22):
horror film, but because of the low budget, some elements
of it are slightly comedic. Not because of the subject matter,
but because the execution. Then you get to Evil Dead too,
and the slapstick element gets played up a little bit
more and it's more of a it's more of a
borderline horror comedy. You get the Army of Darkness. Now

(30:46):
you're in comedy with horror because it's it's definitely playing
up the slapstick big time and Army of Darkness. Then
you get to like the Evil Dead versus Ash series,
you get to the Evil Dead reboot. The Evil Dead
Reboot strips any humor away and becomes more of a
demonic possession horror movie. Now we have Evil Dead Rise,

(31:07):
and I think this one just said hold my beer
and went even harder for like demonic possession horror. Yeah, Like,
visually a lot of it gave me very Evil Dead feels.
Even though I've only watched parts of the original UM movie. Um,
I've watched all of Army of Darkness, and then I
watched the first episode or two of the television series. UM.

(31:33):
I I don't know. I feel like you really need
the comedy to call it an Evil Dead movie. I
don't disagree. UM that's not to say that I think
that this is going to be a bad film. It's
one where I would change the branding on it. I
feel the same way like whenever you have any Hollywood

(31:55):
project where they're taking advantage of a known property and
they're putting out a new film or TV show or
something like that, and it has this known name to it.
But then you watch it and you think, this is like,
in no way similar to the original other than maybe
the basic premise. Yeah, perfect example, perfect example. So yeah,

(32:19):
I never like that. It always bothers me. And the
trailer looks like it's going to be a pretty intense
horror movie. So if you're into intense horror movies, this
might be right up your alley. But I agree with you, Ariel.
I think I think I would. Actually this trailer would

(32:40):
have hit harder for me if it weren't called Evil Dead. Yeah,
I agree. I agree. Um, it looks kind of interesting
if you separate it from that. Uh. Another scary movie
coming out is one called Sick. Is about going to
a cabin during I guess the pandemic or a pandemic
because people are very into asks in quarantine, and then

(33:03):
a scary guy comes and ruins the teenagers getaway. You know, Um,
it's done by the same person. I think, who did
they write or direct scream? I think they I think
it was the direct the writer. Rather, Yeah, it was
the writer because the original screen was um Wes Craven
who directed. I think maybe I'm mixing it all up.

(33:25):
See I'm a bad horror fan. Um, but I really
like this trailer. I like the premise, the idea because
you always have to come up for a reason to
have your characters isolated, right, Like the Cabin in the
Woods trope is a big one in horror. I mean,
that's why Josh Weed did the Cabin in the Woods movie.

(33:45):
And the trope requires that your characters be cut off
from civilization so that they don't really have anywhere to
turn to when the bad stuff starts happening. And in
this case, what a great way of doing it where
it's the two characters who are they're they're going to
quarantine in this remote, enormous cabin. To call it a

(34:07):
cabin is being ridiculous. It is a yeah, it's or
a lodge. Maybe a lodge would be a good name
for it too, because it's it's big, um, and it's fancy.
It's not like it's not like a little log cabin
out in the woods. It's a fancy place. Um, it's
the kind of place I would love to own if
I were wealthy. But so they they are going to

(34:31):
go there to isolate and to party, essentially, And it
looks like one of them is a little more conscientious
about trying to be safe than the other. And it
seems like the premise is that, uh, the the willingness
to abide by rules is part of the the push

(34:54):
of the storyline, and maybe sometimes that an over reliance
on rules can get you into trouble as well. And
but I don't know, I think it looks it looks
to me a lot like a slasher film like Scream,
mixed with maybe a little bit of social commentary about
about social rules, like like when we had mask mandates

(35:16):
and stuff. Because the the end, the end beat was
like the hardest hitting beat of the entire trailer for me,
when a girl is asking for help and she can't
because she isn't following the She isn't getting it because
she isn't following those social rules, and it's like, what
level of well being do you put top priority? Um?
I yeah, it looks interesting to me. I obviously can't

(35:38):
watch everything Blumhouse does, but he does do that. That
production company does do a lot of things that have
more to it than just the scarier the blood or
the violence. You know, um, good stories or interesting twists
or things like that, And I definitely feel like this
falls into the more interesting story or twist category, maybe
even a little bit more suspenseful than just flat out gory,

(36:00):
at least from the trailer. Yeah. Well, for one thing,
at least in the trailer, they don't introduce that many characters,
so it can't be that glory. I mean, I don't know.
I watched candy Man. Uh and in the original candy Man,
I remember sitting there going that person doesn't have that
much blood. There's three characters. The original candy Man stands

(36:23):
as one of the great horror movies and social commentary
horror movies of that era, and the reboot also, um okay, Well,
next up, we have we got a trailer for a
series called Lockwood and Company Company or Lockwood and Co.
Which I was not aware of. I I realized now

(36:44):
that it's a series of young adult books, but I
had never heard of it before. Um, and it's kind
of fascinating premise, this idea that ghosts are a thing.
They have become a very troublesome thing, and the way
the world has responded is they have formed all these
these official agencies where they have people trained to go

(37:07):
out and take care of ghosts so that they stopped
haunting people. But that there's an element of corruption there,
like of bureaucracy, and I get the It starts to
give me the sense of the idea when when fire
fighters were um like sponsored by specific people, and so

(37:31):
you had like this competitive nature and firefighting where you
had different firefighting crews rushing to put out a burning
building because they would get the reward if they if
they were first on the scene. And we're doing it.
I get the feeling like that's kind of what's happening here.
But the main characters are young young people kids really,

(37:52):
who form their own ghost fighting agency. UM. And despite
being a y A novel or based on y novels,
UM this trailer it didn't hit too much of a
of a cheesy this is too young for you, why
a feel for me? UM. I really enjoyed it. Of course.

(38:12):
Joe Cornish, who's the director, also did attack the Block
and The Kid Who Would Be King, which were also
why A stories that really appealed to me. Um, just
because the concept is executed very well. Yeah. Yeah, Attack
the Block is amazing. If you haven't seen it, seek
it out. It is well worth a watch. You get

(38:34):
John Boyega in that movie, you get Nick Frost as
a weed obsessed character in that movie. Um, it's it's
definitely worth watching. So this trailer I thought looked great.
It also kind of hints at issues we see in
a lot of zombie entertainment, that being that sometimes the

(38:56):
most pressing threat isn't the supernatural threat, but it's other
people that seems to come across in this trailer too. Yeah. Um,
so we're gonna we We've talked a lot about streaming
companies cutting back on on the amount of entertainment that
they're putting out, but I feel like, at least the

(39:17):
last and I know Netflix is still making way more
content than I want to watch or could even possibly watch.
But I don't know, I feel like since they've cut
back on some stuff, the things that I'm getting the
trailers for look better to me. I don't know. Yeah,
it may be that there they're being a little more

(39:38):
careful with their decisions, although honestly, I would be surprised
if that if those those decisions were already starting to
manifest this early in the year, because we know that
these series are frequently there like a year behind before
they come out, right, Like when you're when you're making it,
you're making something that's not going to come out for

(40:00):
another year typically, So it might might be a little
bit longer before we really start seeing the consequences of
of streaming companies reckoning with these production costs and pulling
things back. Uh So, I don't know, but I will say, like,
this looks good. Like I didn't know anything going into it.

(40:23):
I had no expectations. By the end of the trailer,
I thought, everyone looks like they're doing a great job.
The Ghost design I love. I love the Ghost disagree,
and I'm intrigued about the world. So I'm probably gonna
check this out. Yeah, with no more lock and Key
and with Umbrella Academy coming to a close, I'm excited.
Hopefully this will pick up, Hopefully people will watch, Hopefully

(40:45):
it'll be good, and people will watch it to the
end of the first season so that it gets a
second season. Also so that you know the actors can
get paid because um, the streaming streaming royalties for actors
and for crew are just a mess. Um, so sometimes
that factors into how long a show stays on a
streaming service like um. Anyhow, regardless, hopefully this will be good.

(41:12):
Uh Paramount Plus Man, Paramount Plus is just coming out
with all this stuff. Apparently they're getting a D and
D series two. Yeah, so there's going to be Uh
well then, ow, there's a D and D series that's
actually an active development and it's dedicated or it's it's
going towards Paramount Plus and Ross and Marshall thurber Um

(41:32):
has written the pilot script and is supposed to direct
the first episode of this series. And yeah, I don't
know how to Well, we don't know enough, right, I don't.
We don't know enough about what this series is. We
don't know what its tone is gonna be. Um, we

(41:53):
don't know if it's going to be just strictly set
within the fantasy world of D and D or if
it's going to be a meta thing where you've got
players and characters. We don't know anything. So um, I'm
not I'm not ready to make any kind of guests
as to what this is going to turn out to be.
But I I'm curious, especially since I know I keep

(42:16):
going back to the dn D movie Aerial and I'm sorry, well, no,
it's fine because one is producing both. So yeah, but
when when I saw that trailer last year, I was
not super enthusiastic about it, Like, it looked okay, but
it didn't. In some ways, it didn't look any better

(42:39):
than the really bad D n D movies we got
several years ago. Right, it looked, it looked bad, but
in different ways. To me, it wasn't. It wasn't an
apples to apples thing, but it didn't look like it
was gonna be Like. I didn't think this is gonna
become like Willow Right, like this is gonna be one
of those movies that I have to own so that
I can occasionally watch it. It didn't come across like

(43:01):
that to me. And I seeing that and thinking that,
I'm like, so what led them to think, Hey, let's
double down and make a series. I mean, Dungeons and
Dragons is super popular right now. I do feel like
um as much as I watch like Dimension twenty and
Critical Role and or listen and then like listen to

(43:22):
like Critical Role and Adventure Zone and stuff like that.
I do feel that playing D and D has a
similar issue to making it cinematic as like LARPs, which
is the immersion. Right, when you're immersed into a situation,
it's so much cooler than necessarily watching from the outside
because you're feeling all those emotions, and so it's a
little bit harder to bring that to people who are

(43:45):
just watching the story. Um. That being said, Ross and
Marsha Thurber wrote Made Red Notice on Netflix, which was
the Galgado Dwayne Johnson, Ryan Reynolds heist movie, which was
very action e and very funny. And I feel like
that's what you need in D and D. You need.
You need the snark, and you need the ironic situations,

(44:09):
because that's to me what you can play a very
serious D and D campaign, but having those comedic moments,
in those moments of like ridiculous failure or success or
what separated from Lord of the Rings or the Wheel
of Time or anything like that, to me, it's just
there's a level of fun there. Yeah, I agree, I
need that element in my D n D. I need

(44:31):
it because there are moments when you're playing D and D,
it's just inevitable. There are moments when you're playing when
you step outside of what's happening at the table at
that moment and you're just kind of evaluating what's going
on from a meta perspective, and you're like, this is
a bunch of grown adults pretending to be fantasy creatures

(44:55):
arguing about the best way to open the door, whether
it's to kick it in or not. Like, this is
just it's it's patently ridiculous. There are moments when that
happens right where you just again you step outside and
you're like, this is ridiculous, But within the fiction of
the world it's not. So when you start adding in
humor and comedy into D and D, I feel it

(45:17):
helps take a little of that edge off that it
encourages people to be more playful, because that, to me,
is one of the biggest barriers two Dudgeons and Dragons
is convincing people to be playful because we all have
that that feeling inside of us that oh, that's childlike,
that's childish, that's I'm gonna look like an idiot. I

(45:38):
don't want to look like an idiot in front of people,
So I don't wanna engage in this. And to me,
that's one of the reasons why humor should always be
a part of Dungeons and Dragons. It doesn't have to
be the pivotal part, it doesn't have to be the
main thing, but I feel like it needs to at
least be present. Yeah, I agree. And and you know,

(46:00):
just from from a scripted acting side of things, if
you are looking at the dramatizing it, there's an entire
line of thought and I agree with it that even
in the most serious situations, you have to find the
comedy so like, because that makes everything hit just a
little bit more true. And so you know, if you
have this ridiculous comedy everybody taking big risks in D

(46:21):
and D, it makes the losses that much more poignant too.
It makes just for a better story. So yeah, um,
I you know, if they can do it, great, Um.
I I love watching live plays, you know, so if
someone can figure out how to capture that in a
television series or a movie, I am for it. Yeah.

(46:44):
And obviously, you know, we've got plenty of examples of
other fantasy based series, you know. The D and D
has tons of different novels set in various dungeons and
dragons worlds that are incredibly popular. You've got all the
other fantasy based stuff, um Lord of the Rings to
Game of Thrones too, you know, slightly less successful titles

(47:06):
out there, But but we have examples of it working,
so it I don't think that there's something inherently impossible
about making a good live action D and D property.
I just think that it so far it hasn't fallen
into the correct hands to make that something that I

(47:29):
personally find satisfying. And if other people find it great,
like if other people go to the D and D
movie with Chris Pine and they think this was really entertaining.
I loved it. I can't wait to see it again.
That's phenomenal. That's amazing. So I'm not here to yuck.
Anyone's young and maybe I'll be that person and maybe
it was just trailers that didn't hit with me. So

(47:51):
we'll have to see. Yeah. But unfortunately, D and D
might be falling into less people's hands to experiment with
because of the ages that Wizards of the Coast is
making to their open gaming license. So um, Jonathan I
have talked about this a little bit on business on
the brink um maybe a lot. We had an entire
episode about D and D. But the role twenties system

(48:15):
that D and D is based off of, for for
many many years has been in open gaming. It has
been in an open gaming license so that people can
create their own worlds, their own contents there, their own games,
their own um settings within D and D using that
based rule set. But now now they're looking at how
to uh monetize that better for the owner company, and

(48:41):
it is ruffling a lot of feathers and I can't
say completely unwarranted Lee. Yeah, yeah, so full disclosure, we
have not had chance to read the full updated license yet.
So well, because he keeps it keeps changing, like all
the news about it keeps changing too. As we've been
on this U recording this podcast, I've had three articles

(49:02):
pop up in my D and D groups chat about
what Pathfinder is going to do now, what Wizards of
the Coast are saying, now, what this is. So it's
changing a lot. So so by the time you even
hear this, there may be significant changes from when we
were recording. But generally speaking, like one of the neat
things about the open gaming license, open game license is

(49:22):
that it allowed lots of other creators to build their
own supplemental materials and even sell them, like even you know,
create a market for them. You probably have seen uh
various source books that were written by not Wizards of
the Coast but by others that are meant to augment

(49:45):
D and D in some way, and sometimes it's like
addressing stuff that D and D really hasn't in order
to give you rules to guide you for certain scenarios
that you might want to explore, but the base source
books from Wizards of the Coast don't touch on that.
And in some two cases it's to introduce all new realms,

(50:05):
like Critical Role has done that. They've released books that
introduced the worlds that that Critical Role takes place in.
So I mean the entire role playing game Pathfinder is
based on. So the problems here is that by updating

(50:25):
the license and putting in more restrictions and putting in
things like reportedly there are passages that would give Wizards
of the Coast uh the rights to the work you create,
so that they could end up exploiting those creations you've
made for their own um revenue, or that they can

(50:50):
take a cut of your revenue, if you are making
more than a certain amount per year from your your books,
and like, ah, if it hadn't been for the open
game license, maybe I'd feel about this differently. But the
fact that there was an open game license that had

(51:11):
such flexibility to it and that that led to incredible
creativity in the space. Uh, the fact that that's now
being tweaked and changed is what is really upsetting because
otherwise you could say, well, they made the stuff, and
if you are creating things based off of their stuff

(51:32):
and then you're making huge amounts of money, should some
of that money also go to the original creators? And
that gets into a very complicated conversation. Yeah, because one
of the things in in in the new license that
people are up in arms about and might change because
because people are up in arms about, is them saying,
if you create anything under the new license, uh, we

(51:55):
can use it for whatever we want. We don't have
to pay you to use it because you're using our system.
So uh, it's not like they're buying the company, is
not like they're partnering with the company. They're just saying,
you've made the successful thing off of our open game license,
so we can do whatever we want with it, and
well not illegal. That feels just kind of crappy to me. Yeah,
well it's not good business. Relation. It reminds me of

(52:19):
how things can happen on YouTube, right where let's say
that you make a YouTube video where you are critiquing, um,
a specific editorial choice in a movie, and so you have, uh,
some clips from this movie and you're pointing out the
editorial choices that you are critiquing, and under you know,

(52:41):
most most people's opinions, this would probably fall under fair use.
That you're making use of copyrighted material in order to
educate and to comment upon it and to critique it,
and as long as you are not using very much
of it, and that stuff you're saying has substance that

(53:03):
should reasonably be considered fair use. Well. On YouTube, a
lot of times you'll hear stories about how creators had
the monetization of their videos switched so that let's say,
the movie studio that made the movie is now collecting
all the money being made off that video because they
owned the source that you were referencing, and that we

(53:29):
hear these stories all the time over with YouTube creators
where they have to fight to be able to get
back their monetization because they're they're making a very valid
point of No, this isn't I'm not exploiting their work.
I'm using their work to explain this concept and to
make this point, and and that does fall under fair

(53:51):
use and I should be able to do that. Um.
It reminds me a lot of those kinds of situations.
Yeah yeah, um, but this is still unfolding, and you know,
I'm trying not to be too distracted. I've now turned
off my D and D group chat because you know,
they're like, well, they were going to do this, but
now they're going to dial it back and slowly work

(54:12):
up to it so people don't get upset. But um,
hopefully they will figure out a way to not completely
screw over people who are creating things. Yeah, not to
alienate their entire fan base. Yeah yeah, Um, but you know,
maybe we'll talk more about this as everything unfolds and

(54:34):
as it um settles and we know what the end
result is going to be. Um, we just have a
couple of more stories ago. In fact, we probably could
have thrown these under the thirty seconds or less. But
the first up is, if you are a subscriber to
HBO Max, which we know is going to have its
name changed. At some point, you likely received an email

(54:56):
I know I did, learning you that you will be
paying a little bit more for the privilege of watching
HBO Max. They're hiking up the monthly subscription feed by
a dollar. Yeah, they're you know, they're as much as
HBO has been cutting a bunch of stuff, and and
whatever reasons good or bad, they are doing that. Um.

(55:17):
They say that this increase is to help them create
new and awesome content. Um. And it's not unheard of
a lot of most of the streaming services are bumping
up their monthly fee, which sucks because there's so many services,
and that can add up. If you've got twenty streaming services,
that's twenty extra bucks a month or more. Um. But yeah,
it's also understandable and reasonable and it's only a dollar.

(55:39):
So ask me again in twelve months when I suspect
we'll all be watching stick figure theater versions of DC
superhero stories because that's all they can afford. It's all
David zas level pay for. And you'll just be like, well,
that one's supposed to be Batman. If you look really closely,
you can see there's little points on the top of

(56:01):
the stick figures head. I was to say, if it's
got little points on top of its head, if it's
it's Batman, if it's got a cape and underwear, it's Superman's. Yeah, um,
I mean, I honestly I get it. Like, the streaming
business model is a very tricky one. How the heck

(56:23):
do you make it profitable? If your strategy is to
bring people over to your service by producing premier content,
it gets really hard, Like it's really I mean, Netflix
didn't start off by making premiere content. Netflix started off
by just being really the biggest game in town when

(56:44):
it came to streaming stuff, and most of the stuff
they streamed, in fact, all the stuff they streamed originally
belonged to other studios, right, And then you would just
like it was like a mail in Blockbuster. Yep. Well yeah, originally,
before they even got to the streaming stuff, it was
mail in Blockbuster. And it's only that the studios started
to get worried that Netflix was going to get too powerful,

(57:07):
and they started to create these other streaming services that
you know. To to this day, we're still seeing that
play out that it got to a point where everyone,
in order to stand out, has to make their own unique,
uh content that no one else has, and that gets
really expensive and no one has figured out how to

(57:27):
do that in a way that sustainable. So from that respect,
I totally get it. It's hard to argue as a customer,
like you were saying, Aerial, It's tough, man, I mean,
especially when you're going into economic uncertainty, like you start
asking what what things am I do I need? What
things do I want? And what things can I say

(57:48):
goodbye to? And uh, I feel like a streaming services
are gonna a lot of them are gonna get hit
by this over the next you know, several months or yeah,
they're or they're going to combine like WB Discovery and
HBO is doing, um which I don't know. There are
too many people didn't like cable where you got everything

(58:08):
in one, but then you still have to buy extras.
People don't like all the different streaming services. There's got
to be a middle ground somewhere. Um Well. The thing
that people wanted was they wanted to be able to
pick and choose the content right like like almost like
imagine that you've got a streaming platform but it's blank
and you get to put whatever you want into that

(58:30):
streaming platform. So you say, oh, well, I definitely want
the Daredevil series in there, so I'm gonna take that
from Netflix. I'm gonna put it in there. And I
definitely want severance from Apple TV, so I'm gonna take
that and I'm gonna put it in there, and so
on and so forth, until you have your own personal
library of stuff that you want. That's what everyone was
dreaming of. Yeah, how do you how do you monetize that? Well,

(58:53):
you can't. I mean you would have to have like
some sort of you would have to do something kind
of like as CAP does with with songs right where
you have a general license and then all the studios
get a cut of all the license fees. But that
would not support this model either. You wouldn't have the
money to put on these prestige series and films. So

(59:15):
I think I think we're just gonna see probably a
pretty tumultuous couple of years while folks really figure out
what's the long term plan with streaming and uh and
and exclusive content for streaming platforms, because I don't think
we figured it out yet. Yeah, I mean, I will
as a as a person who is hoping to make

(59:37):
a living off the entertainment industry, Like I also cancel
my various streaming services between the series that I want
to watch because I can't afford them all and the
things I want to watch are not all the same.
So I am I am a part of the problem.
Uh all right, I am. I am not a part
of the problem. I am stuck within the problem. They
are all trying to figure out. Um. Yes, yes, but

(01:00:01):
we have one, one last little thing. This is a
happy thing. Um, it's not a problem. It does come
from Netflix, which is they have released Teenage Mutant Ninja
Turtle Shredder Revenge for iOS and Android, so you can
now play the video game on your phone. I it's
funny because you your headline is TMNT Shredder's Revenge comes

(01:00:22):
to Mobile, and I'm like, arial, I've already been playing
it on mobile because I have that on my stream
deck on my steam deck. Yeah, so I I have.
I Shredder's Revenge is one of two games that I
regularly play on my steam Deck, which is a mobile
gaming PC. The other one being uh, Cult of the Lamb,

(01:00:47):
which is acute and disturbing game about creating a cult.
But yeah, Shredder's Revenge is total is a total throwback.
If you're not familiar with it, It's a total throwback
to the side scrolling beat him up teenage meeting in
Turtles games of the nineties to complete with like some
of the same effects and some of the same outcomes,

(01:01:09):
Like you can end up throwing bad guys towards the screen.
So you see this little cartoon guy get bigger and
bigger as he as he splats across the screen in
front of your eyes. Uh. It's a great game. Highly
recommend it. It's got fantastic music and voice acting. The
animation is wonderful, the character designs are great. It really

(01:01:32):
does feel like a genuine nostalgic throwback to those arcade games. Yeah, so,
um check it out. I've got you know, the team
and t game on one of my gaming consoles and
I enjoy it. Um. I like, so you can play
this one with random party people, like random people can
join your party and you can play it, yeah, virtually,

(01:01:54):
but I like. I like it on my gaming console
because I can sit with four people in a room
and co op together and that hasn't happened for a
game for me for a while, and it's exciting. Yeah. No,
those are great, Like the same screen type games. Um
it's rare to encounter now because everything has been shifted
to online play. But there's there's a communal joy that

(01:02:19):
comes out of playing games in the same physical space
with each other and sharing the same screen. That is
you just can't replicate that online now. Granted they're also
obviously times where you don't want to have that experience,
like if there's a surge in COVID, for example, but
it's it is one of those experiences that you just

(01:02:41):
can't you cannot perfectly capture with any other experience. And
I really love those two out of curiosity. Who's your
go to character? Michael Angelo? Interesting? Okay, so my go
to is Casey Jones. That doesn't surprise me, but like
my car was my named Michael jelo Wazowski and the goofball.

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It's not because of his skills or his abilities or
anything like that. Um. I also like April O'Neil. She's
she's my second choice. Yeah, it's cool that you can
choose to play those characters because, of course, in the
original nineties games, you were limited to the four Turtles.
That's it, like those were the only characters you could play.
So having the ability to to play these other characters

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is it's fun. It's a nice, little, uh, you know,
addition to the game so cool that you can now
play it on mobile devices like Android and iOS devices.
The review I read suggested that the on screen controls
are okay, but it's better to pair a controller with
your phone and use the controller as your input device.

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It just works better from what it doesn't surprise me. Uh,
But that is the end of everything we wanted to
talk about. If you are fair and fine friends and listeners,
have any thoughts you'd like to share with us about
the new D and D open gaming license or games
that you like to play in a room with other people,
you should write us and tell us yes, and I'll

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explain how you can do that. Go deep into the
woods and find a rock and write your thoughts on
a piece of paper and place it underneath that rock.
Rock around the rock three times counterclockwise while chanting ellen
c ellen c, and if the winds are right, then
we will respond by visiting you in a dream. That's

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so much work for me, Jonathan, or you could just
you know, hit us up on social media. On Instagram,
We're Larger Drunk Collider, on Twitter where Ellen c Underscore podcast.
On Facebook We're large En Drunk Collider, and on Discord
were Large ner drawn Collider. Um. I will have an
email address soon. I have been dealing with kitties, so

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I'm running behind on things like that and updating the website,
although last week's episode is up on the website www
dot large now drunk Collider dot com. Big surprise. Um,
but yeah, right us and we will get back to you.
We do read everything you sent in, even if we
might be a little slow to respond now and then cool. So, uh,
I guess this is it. So until next time. I

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am Jonathan, I'm serious about the rock in the Woods
thing Strickland, and I am Ariel. He's to listen to
him unless he's going to respond. Cast in the Large
nerdron Collider was created by Ariel Casting and produced, edited, published, deleted, undeleted,

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published again. Curse That by Jonathan Strickland. Music by Kevin
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un people