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May 20, 2021 52 mins

Knives Out 2 gets another amazing actor. Dear Evan Hansen casting becomes a joke on the Internet. And we go surprisingly dark with a mash up between Full House and Monsters Inc.

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Speaker 1 (00:07):
The Large ner Droun Collider Podcast is a production of
I Heart Radio. Hi everybody, Welcome to the Larger ner
Dron Collider Podcast, the podcast that's all about gee things
happening in the world around us and how excited we

(00:28):
are about them. I'm Ariel casting and with me as
always is geek Boy Jonathan Strickland on the Geek Boy. Hey, Ariel,
I got a question for you. All right, Ariel, You've
got all the materials, all the skills at your disposal

(00:49):
all the time you need to make your dream cosplay.
We both have been to Dragon Con many times. Cosplay
is a huge part of dry and con. What is
your dream cause play? So this is This is difficult
because I have many of them, um, but the one

(01:12):
that I have yet to see anybody do. So I'm
picking this because, like I could say, I want to
be a realistic Little Mermaid or I want to be
Jessica Rabbit. Those have always been like high on my
list of things to play or fem ship from Mass Effect.
But the one that I have yet to see anybody
do that I would love to love to do is
a really well is a female version of the tick?

(01:33):
Oh you know what? I don't think I've seen anyone
ever play a female version of the tick either, And
it's an interesting choice. But you know, since cause players
like to role play their characters oftentimes, I just think
it would be an awful lot of fun. I can
very much relate to the Ticks non sequitors. Sometimes we

(01:55):
would have to see if our our mutual friends Sasha
would be your Arthur. Oh, that would be amazing. Yeah,
because you and Sasha whenever you're paired together. I mean
it's been a while, it has been a while, but
and Sasha has gone on to that. Yeah, and Sasha
has gone on to do some like phenomenal causeplays. Sasha

(02:17):
is just if you've ever seen that picture by picture
of tinker Bell next to thorign Oaken shield and it says,
this is the same person. That's our friend Sasha, whom
we've known for years. Yeah, yeah, I would love to
do that with Sasha, but I don't have the skills
to actually build that costume, nor all the resources in

(02:40):
the world to do so what would be yours? I
gave this a lot of thought, and you know, because
I like playing bad guys, because you know, I'm not
a bad guy, so it's fun to kind of just
play pretend. I think I would go uber bad guy,
I wanna really cool witch King ring Wraith cost him
from Glori of the Right. Yeah, it would. That's so

(03:03):
before we started recording, actually, just to peek behind the veil,
I gave Arieal a bit of a heads up on
this one because I felt like this particular question is
one of those where you kind of want to think
about it. You know, you just get you get that
one dropped on your lap, and your chances are you're
going to give an answer and then like twenty minutes later,
you're going to say that I hate that answer. So

(03:24):
I wanted to give her a little time, and I said, yeah,
this is one of those costumes that if I were
wearing it at Dragon Con, if I did have the
ability to put it all together, I would probably be
stationary because I don't think I would be able to
see very well in a which King outfit, and um,
i'd be worried about walking into people or falling down
an escalator. Worse yet, falling down an up escalator, which

(03:46):
means you're just falling forever. It's you. That would be horrible, horrible,
you know, I honestly, I changed my mind like three
times between the time you gave me time to think
about it in the time you actually asked the question
during recording. But I mean because I've done a lot
of causeplay, and it tends to be things that are

(04:07):
easier to do because as much as I love sewing
and I love costume design, I'm not actually fantastic at execution.
So all of those I would love to read in
a better format. And and lately when I've caused played,
it's been very closet cause play things like Street Close,
Black Widow or Mary Jane on a business day, or

(04:27):
you know, stuff that doesn't require specific pieces that are
not normally viable at a story. Yeah, the last causeplay
I did was kabuky Mask from Big Hero six, the
bad guy from Big Hero six. Um. I did that.
I had a three D accustomed three D printed mask
for that that that I painted up and put reflective

(04:48):
lenses inside and everything, So it was it was probably
the most involved one I did. And that one was
that was off the rack pieces that I just alter
slightly because if you've seen Big Hero six, you've seen
that kabuky Mask wears a bunch of layers and dragon
Con happens in August in Georgia. So yeah, but it

(05:12):
looked good. I got to see it. It looked really good.
Thank you well. I I hope that we can once
again indulge in some cosplay and plus just really enjoy
the incredible work that the cosplay community puts into their pieces.
It's constantly the highlight of dragon Con for me is
just seeing the creative costuming, everything from incredibly accurate replicas

(05:38):
of pieces you've seen in film or television or even
comic books, up to the crazy, you know, mash ups
and offshoots that come up a lot of I think
a lot of the spirit of large Nerdon Collator is
in those kinds of cosplay. It definitely is. I wonder
when we get back to conventions with cosplay, dragon Con specifically,

(06:01):
since that's the one right right outside our door, if
we're going to get many knives out cosplays. Yeah, that's
an excellent question, because I mean, that's the thing is
that one of the interesting bits about cosplay is that
we've seen it branched far beyond the fantasy and science
fiction and superheroes and horror. It started to go all
over the place and in all the areas where people have,

(06:22):
you know, a deep fandom for the thing. And the
reason you bring out Knives Out is because we've heard
about yet another addition to the cast. We talked about
Batista being part of the cast. Now we know that
Leslie Odom Jr. Is going to be part of the cast.
He played uh well, He's been in lots of stuff,
but I think of him as Aaron Burr from Hamilton's

(06:44):
where he was phenomenal originating that role. I'm going to say,
if he's the killer, then that's type casting and not fair.
Maybe he accidentally shoots the victim or something. But yeah,
we also know that Edward Norton is in the cast,
as is Catherine hahn Um. So I mean, I don't know.
It could have been Yeah, I think it might be

(07:05):
Kevin because it was Agatha all along. So really, what
you're saying is you expect Knives Out to to be
Aaron Burr, the Hulk, Agatha from from One Division and
James Bond and James Bond, Daniel Craig all in a

(07:27):
room together. Yes. No, I'm just I'm just in dracks
and I'm trying to figure out which Janelle Monet character
I want to select for this. Yeah, so it's not
gonna be individual characters. It's going to be all the
other characters they've played, Yes, exactly. Also, it'll turn out
to be kind of like Clue, where everyone ends up
being a killer. Oh spoiler for Clue in case you

(07:47):
haven't seen that movie. Jonathan came out in the early eighties.
I think I think the Statute of Limitations is done.
I've watched it like a thousand times. But I was
going to say that you're making me redo my evening plans,
but that's not true at all. Well, and I have
to say I'm really excited about Knives Out too. I
very much enjoyed the first film. I was late to

(08:11):
seeing the first movie. I knew that it was. There
was a huge amount of buzz around it already by
the time I saw it, so I didn't. I was
not on that that first, like boat of folks who
saw it. I was so lucky that no one spoiled
it for me, so I got to go into it
and enjoy the mystery for what it was. Although I

(08:32):
maintain that if you do watch Knives Out, if you
haven't seen it before, I maintained that. I'm I'm pretty
sure most people are going to suss out who the
killer is pretty pretty early on. But it was still
a very entertaining film. Yes, and and from a storytelling
standpoint and an artistic standpoint, there are so many little
clues enhants that they put in throughout that's just really fantastic. Um, Jonathan,

(08:54):
I'm actually going to be a bit of a book,
and I'm going to change our show order after we
decided it, because I really I said, if we're talking
about Knives Out, which is a murder mystery, we should
then talk about our other true crime murder story. Now,
Dear Evan Hanson, got it. I'm sorry, that's what we
were supposed to, Okay, Right, So you're you're talking about

(09:18):
the the Steve Martin and Martin short series that is
coming out on Hulu. Yes, it's called Only Murders in
the Building, which took me a bit because that's not
really a name that like rolls off the tongue or
makes a whole lot of sense. But it's Steve Martin,
Martin Short, Amy Ryan and Selena Gomez and they are

(09:40):
true crime podcast fans who then decide to solve true crime. Yes,
a murderer, or at least a death happens in the
apartment building where they all live. They're all strangers to
one another except for the fact that they all happened
to share this love of true crime podcasts, and a
death happens in their building, and collectively they decide that

(10:02):
they want to investigate it because they all suspect that
the death was in fact a murder um and they
want to put the skills they have learned by listening
to true crime podcasts to the test. Ariel, I gotta
tell you this to me is kind of my nightmare.
I've thought it might be, uh, just just because I

(10:24):
know that you have feels on true crime pod I do.
I'm a I'm a podcast producer who works for a
company that produces more than a few true crime podcasts.
And the thought of fans taken it upon themselves to
try and solve crime because of their perceived expertise because
they listened to a lot of true crime shows fills

(10:46):
me with a terror that is difficult to put into words.
I mean, I totally get it. That being said, the
trailer is so adorable, like so Steve, Steve Martin and
Martin Short. Oftentimes they're both comedic, comedically brilliant in many ways,
but a lot of times, especially like when they rehash

(11:07):
old characters on S and L or whatnot, they're so
over the top. To me, they're just very very large,
and so I was worried that watching this trailer they
would both be very very large. Um, and they're they're big,
but they're not unbearably big. And then you've got Selena
Gomez coming in is just this straight man like, very

(11:31):
wry sort of personality that balanced it out really well
in the trailer. I didn't expect to. I had to
watch the trailer, but I didn't expect to want to
watch the show. Now, I agree with you, Like you know,
when I think of Steve Martin and Martin Short together,
my thoughts immediately go to the Three Amigos, um but
which is great, fantastic, I love it. But yeah, as

(11:53):
you say, like the performances in that film are not
at all subtle. They're not supposed to be. That's not
the kind of movie it is. We By the way,
fun fact, if you go back through our old YouTube videos,
there's one of our YouTube videos where we heavily reference
the Three Amigos when we talk about the seven Sons
of the Seven Samurai. But yeah, like I'm the same way.

(12:14):
I wasn't sure what to expect, but everyone, like Steve Martin,
especially in the past few years, has turned in some
performances that are much more nuanced and subtle. Like he's
not the wild and crazy guy at the seventies or
the zany comedy guy of the eighties. Uh. He still
has that incredible since a humor, but it's channeled in

(12:37):
a different way now. Yeah. Yeah, I would definitely say
that he's the more mild of the two. Uh, Martin's yes,
the Steve Martin short, Yes, Steve Martin short, Martin Steve
Martin Short. Okay, So speaking of nuanced performances, Yeah, this

(12:57):
is gonna be a fun conversation. We're about to get
into year. Um yeah we wanted so we do. Do
want to talk about Dear Evan Hanson because the trailer
for the movie adaptation of the Broadway show launched the
day we're recording this, which is one and it surprised
me because despite the fact that I'm on a show

(13:20):
where we cover entertainment news, I wasn't aware that there
was a musical version of this coming out, Like I
had heard that it was happening, but it completely fell
off my radar because it was just the beginning stages
last I personally picked up on it. Well. It surprised
me also that you know, they actually cast the actor

(13:42):
who played the character of Evan Hansen in the Broadway
stage show as that character in the film, which, on
one hand, is a neat thing because you very rarely
see that, right. We usually see Hollywood actors who end
up getting cast in these roles and maybe, if you're lucky,
they can sing. But in this case, we're seeing the

(14:05):
actual person who originated the part on Broadway doing the
role on the screen. That doesn't always work out. Rent
was a disaster, but um, but we're hopeful on this one. However,
it does bring up an issue that the Internet has
more than jumped all over, yeah, which is the fact
that Ben Platt is seven, which you know, it's not

(14:28):
always an issue in Hollywood. They are constantly people being
in their best Yeah, And we should point out Evan Hanson. Dear.
Evan Hanson's is a story that's set in like mostly
in a high school with the main character feeling like
an outcast at that high school, and he has a
couple of encounters with a similar outcast in that school,

(14:49):
and it appears that the two of them from the
outside like people who are just casually looking. It looks
like the two of them formed a friendship. Then this
other person, Connor to makes his own life, and that
appearance of a friendship becomes uh kind of a lie
that people just start to believe, and Evan is sort

(15:10):
of wrapped up in it. Um. The story gets much
more complicated from there, but the point being that you've
got an actor in his late twenties playing a teenager,
and a lot of people started sharing memes, especially of
the Steve Boosimi like you know what's up, young people?
Fellow young people that kind of meme as a joke

(15:30):
about being Evan Hanson. All of the kids are in
their twenties, so a Lana Back, Zoe Murphy, Connor Murphy,
Jared Kleinent. They're all in their twenties between twenty two
and twenty six. So Ben Platt playing Evan Hanson is
not so far off, but he looks way older than
that he does, and so I feel weird about this
areal And the reason why is because every film depends

(15:52):
upon a suspension of disbelief. Right, you have to suspend
disbelief because you know, this is a movie. People showed
up to set, there was entering, there were lights, there
were crew that are not in view. If the movie
is done properly, like like like you know, it's all artifice,
so you already have to buy into it. Now it

(16:12):
is asking you more to buy into it. When an
actor is the wrong age to play a character quote
unquote wrong age, it's a little easier, I would argue, uh,
when you go to see a stage production, because then
you're having to suspend your disbelief even more because you
can just look around and see that you know, you're
not really you know wherever um. But I also like

(16:36):
I get it where like you know, you're you're you're
feeling a disconnect between the uh, the appearance of an
actor and the supposed age of the character they're playing.
But there are a lot of shows out there that
have adults playing children and that's part of the show,
like like annual Putnam County Spelling Bee is that way

(17:00):
you're a good man? Charlie Brown is that way. So
I guess it just depends on intent and the way
it's portrayed. But I'm not feeling a mental block here,
I guess, is what I'm saying. Me neither. So like
if you look at the movie Eighth Grade, where they
used actual eighth graders, if they had used high schoolers
and then put Ben Platt into that environment, I would

(17:23):
have felt real creepy about that. But because they've cast
everyone older, you know, you can kind of just age
up in your brain. I know that as I get older,
and I'm not old by any means, but as I
get older, all of a sudden, people my age look
younger to me. So well, and I think about things
like you know, like you said, it's not a new

(17:44):
thing to cast adults as teenagers. Like the television series
Buffy the Vampires Slayer, every single one of the principal actors,
we're playing characters several years younger than themselves, sometimes like
a decade younger than themselves, So it's not an unusual thing. Um,
I do get like the initial knee jerk reaction, It's

(18:05):
not a big deal to me. I can get past it. Also,
Like I think part of it's also that I kind
of wanted to see Dear Evan Hanson when it was
originally running on Broadway. But it's one of those things
where like it's tough to see a show with its
original cast. I mean, there's it's just it's an exclusive thing, right,
So this is a chance to see the the guy

(18:27):
who originated the part do it again. And when else
am I going to get a chance to see that?
I agree? You know, I think I was going to
say they could have done it because you run into
work issues like how much time a kid can be
on set if they're under eighteen. But I really think
they did it so that people could see Ben Platt
as Evan Hanson, which you know, when I listened to
the soundtrack, that's who I love singing it. So I'm

(18:49):
also quite excited. I'm I'm not having any hang ups.
So he does look a little old to me, but
I do know, I I agree, I agree. Well, you
know what, Ariel, I think what we should do is
take a rake and when we come back, we'll talk
a little bit about some interesting mergers that are coming up,
and then segue into some situational comedic conversation. Okay, Ariel

(19:22):
so there are a couple of stories here that get
into the realm of one of the other shows. We
used to do Business on the Brink, where we would
talk about like some big, big, big moments in business
history that either led to incredible success or monumental failure.
And we've got a couple of stories that could be

(19:43):
like a turning point, um. And one of them is
that Amazon is rumored to be on the prowl to
pick up MGM, the one of the oldest movie production
companies ever, which has had numerous financial difficulties throughout its
very long history. Mm hmm, yeah, which, uh, you know,

(20:10):
I get it. The interesting thing to me is along
with MGM comes things like getting the movie Fargo, but
the Fargo television show is on Hulu, which is owned
by Disney. So but they get like the James Bond
series that's got to be worth something, Hobbit, Rocky, RoboCop.
I'm just reading through the list here, Get Shorty, which

(20:32):
is probably not a show a movie that like half
our audience has ever seen, but it's I saw it
in the theater. Yeah, So yeah, it's it's really interesting, um,
because as these big mergers happen, they kind of start
overlapping in my brain. But at the same time, like
I so, it feels a bit incestuous, and I get

(20:54):
I have a hard time keeping them all straight. But
at the same time, I'm like, Okay, merge because aready
have Amazon primes, so it'll just open up my options.
When I think of MGM areal, the two things that
come to my mind are the original name for Disney
Hollywood Studios, Disney's MGM Studios, Yes, which I still call

(21:17):
it that so do I, which I'm sure irritates cast
members like crazy, but you know that it was burned
into my brain as a kid. But the other thing
is one of the greatest movies of all time. And
I'm not this isn't me being like flippant, but Wizard
of Oz was an MGM film like that is that
is truly an iconic movie. So it's interesting, Like I think,

(21:42):
I look at MGM as a business and I think, yeah,
that that's a company that's really it's really struggling. I mean,
we would call it a business on the brink, and um,
it's only companies like massive companies like Amazon that would
be able to come in and potentially scoop up those
ass and maybe make something out of it. You know,

(22:03):
you wouldn't expect Amazon to just you know, liquidate everything.
They would do something with it. What they would do
with it is another question. But you alluded to the
fact that it's hard to keep these things straight. It's
not getting any easier because this is not the only
merger story we have. No Warner Media is apparently being

(22:25):
sold by A T and T and getting picked up
by Discovery, which hurts my head a little. Me too.
I used to work for Discovery, so it hurts my
head too. Um yeah, So A T n D is
looking to spend off Warner Media and have it merge
with Discovery, which is all sorts of strange to me.
I mean, in some ways, I think it's a good

(22:46):
thing because A T and D is, you know, a
telecommunications company, so they're in charge of making sure the
connections exist between different entities. And then Warner Media is
a content company, and I don't really like it when
content and delivery are merged together. That's why I really
don't care for the the Comcast, NBC Universal massive conglomerate

(23:13):
I find, because that that's the kind of stuff that
ends up threatening things like net neutrality, so I'm not
a big fan of it. But yeah, so the part
about them spending off Warner Media in order to focus
solely on telecommunications and have Warner Media focused solely on content,
that part was easy for me to understand. It's the
merger with Discovery that I also find Like, that's the

(23:33):
one where I had the big question mark pop up
over my head. I you know, I wonder if Discovery
was on board to get it, because like, so they've
got Discovery Plus right, and a lot of their content
is now on there. A lot of the shows that
people like to watch, you know, like Dr Pimple Popper
or fix Er Up or things like that, a lot

(23:54):
of those shows are now on Discovery Plus because they
want people buying there their streaming service, but there are
just too many of them. So I wonder if that's
a way for them to still maintain a streaming service,
not admit defeat because I don't know what their numbers are,
you know, um, but then roll it in under like
HBO Max HBO Max because which is also hard because

(24:18):
I get my HBO Max through Hulu, which is owned
by Disney. Yeah, no, it's it's I thought the cable
business was of confusing mishmash, but it was you know,
streamlined and simple compared to the online streaming world that
we're in today. Um, yeah, it's it's also it blows

(24:39):
my mind to think that if things had been a
little different, I could count Batman as my coworker. That
that is a pretty cool thought, John. But I haven't
worked for Discovery for a few years now. Discovery spun
off How Stuff Works several years ago, or actually sold
off How Stuff Works several years ago, which then went
through a whole series of things. And I don't even

(25:00):
work for How Stuff Works anymore. Been in the same
job for fourteen years. It's the bosses that keep changing. Yeah,
but you you are constant, Yeah, like steadfast in the side, Yes,
but steadfast pillars. Speaking of pillars, one of the pillars

(25:21):
of comedy, one of the pillars of entertainment. Listen, I'm
I'm grasping at any straw that I can see. But
one of the pillars of entertainment, particularly in places like
the UK and America, is the sitcom or situational comedy. Now, Mariel,
what was it that that made you want to talk

(25:43):
about sitcoms? Today. Uh yeah, So sadly, it looks like
we won't have much time to talk about it, so
this conversation might lead into another week. But ABC released
trailers for a bunch of its fall lineup, and there
was there was a drama called Queens, and then three sitcoms,
one of which we knew about, The Wonder Years, which

(26:06):
is a remake and it's starring Delay Hill, which I
love Delay Hill, so I'll watch anything he's in um
and then Abbott Elementary, which is about a school, and
then Maggie, which is a comedy about a psychic. And
I pulled up the article to watch the trailer about
Wonder Years because I loved the original and I'm very

(26:27):
excited about this remake. I love I love how certain
certain comedy, certain situational things are and sometimes hate too
are are a part of the basic human conditions. So
no matter when you look at them throughout your history,
that they remain relevant. You know, there are some some
things that remain relevant that I wish wouldn't. For instance,

(26:49):
when they redid All in the Family and Jeffersonce. There's
certain social topics that I wish we're not still relevant
that sadly are, But you know, a lot of comedy,
a lot of family is the particulars might change, but
the overall feeling of them stays the same, And so
you can make remake something like Wonder Years, have it

(27:09):
been new and have it still hit all of the
same old fields, which is what I'm hoping for. There
are certain sitcoms and certain shows that I think fall
into the comedy range. They maybe don't fall into the
classic sitcom category like I wouldn't. I wouldn't think Wonder
Years falls into sitcom, but it is more comedic than
anything else. It's more of a kind of a drama
y series in a way um situation. But like like

(27:32):
Doogie Houser is another one. That's another one that has
the remake, right, so uh full House, Yeah, no, full
House is like We're gonna have so much more to
talk about with full House in a minute. It had
a sequel, it had a Fuller House. Yeah. But but yeah,
there are other there other like sitcoms I think of
from my childhood. Now. I grew up in the seventies

(27:54):
and eighties, so a lot of the sitcoms I remember
are not good. Some of them are like Golden Girls,
pretty good sitcom. Designing Women was frequently a pretty good sitcom. Um,
but there are others that, you know, we're varying degrees
of corny or just uh, you know, not not particularly relevant,

(28:17):
Like I don't know, Perfect Strangers, not not so much perfect.
I did at the time, but I have things to
say about that that I'll tell you off Mike, Yeah,
well I did rewatch it recently. It doesn't quite hold
up as well or like, here's here's an example of
one that totally like would not fly today for good reason.
Bosom Buddies that would not fly. So if you don't

(28:40):
know what Bosom Buddy says, it was a Tom Hanks
was in it. It was a a comedy in which
a couple of guys dressed in drag in order to
be able to live in a um housing area that
only would allow women. And um, yeah, so yet jokes
about men dressed up as women and that just would

(29:04):
not like that. That humor doesn't work today at all. Um,
arguably it didn't work so great then either, But you know,
you get by a long way on Tom Hanks's charm. Um,
But yeah, it's interesting. So are there any are there
any sitcoms that you can think of that you would
love to see a reboot of that you think could?

(29:26):
I mean, we know we're getting some like Punky Brewster
is another one that's coming back. But see the reboot
of Punky Brewster again, it's not a reboot, it's a sequel. Um.
It feels like it's banking heavily on nostalgia, which is
not always a bad thing, but um, it felt it
felt a little too forced for me. You know, I
talked about this in a previous episode, But I would

(29:48):
love to see Family Matters reboot. Um. I don't know
if they could, Like I don't know if anybody could
replace Julia White is Steve Urkel, and now that geek
is being a geek is so much more mainstream. I
don't know how it would play, um, but I'd be
interested to see it. Um. Yeah, Perfect Strangers, although I

(30:10):
can guarantee that's probably because I haven't watched most of
it in a long time. Um. That one's tricky because
so much of the humor is all about fish out
of water, and the the exaggeration of foreign nous makes
it hard to do in a way that doesn't feel
like it's playing upon almost racist stereotypes. Yeah yeah, But

(30:34):
like I've been real I've been watching through Blackish, which
actually just got announced it's going to be in its
final season. I'm not sure if it's already in or
if it's going to be, but they did a take
on good Times in one of their episodes, and so
I feel like, I feel like sometimes you can reboot

(30:57):
a concept without having to do an exact reboot of
a show. I think black is just a great example.
I really enjoyed that. Um, you know, Abbot Elementary. I'm
sure there have been other sitcoms about elementary schools that
that it's a reboot, and maybe like Saved by the Bell,
although it's more focused on teachers. But well, I'll tell
you which one. What classic sitcom from my childhood I

(31:20):
want to see rebooted? Sure? I bet you can tell already.
This is going to be a flippant answer. Silver Spoons,
I know I've seen it, but I don't remember. Here
we are face to face a couple of silver Spoons,
hoping to find we're two of a kind, making a go,
making it grow together. We're gonna find a way. Um yeah, no,

(31:43):
So Silver Spoons had had Rick then Ricky Schroeder as
a very serious young man coming to live with his father,
who is essentially a man child who's extremely wealth a
and it's kind of like the story of the father
who is largely irresponsible and and living in a state

(32:08):
of arrested development, bringing the child out of his son
and his son kind of encouraging the dad to be
more um, you know, responsible and mature. But that's like
from a very high level on an episode by episode basis,
it was just an excuse for goofy things to happen
by wealthy people. Okay, I mean, but can you imagine

(32:32):
Let's say, let's say like the dad is obsessed with Instagram,
Like he's obsessed with being an Instagram influencer, and the
kid is like a much more kind of focused kind
of person. Like you could you could easily update that
concept to today and it would still work, Isn't it
kind of like Young Sheldon at that point. I've never

(32:53):
watched Young Sheldon, so it's very possible. Uh So I've
got it. I've got the perfect sitcom to reboot. What's
that I knew you're gonna say, alf I knew you're
gonna say ALF. I mean, just think about like it
was funny. It was a little a reference, which we
know you like because you like always sunding a Philadelphia.

(33:15):
I don't. I sometimes do um, you know, but it
could be done on such a higher level now. I
think what you do is you do a new version
of Alf, same puppet, so you don't update the puppet
at all. And in this version of Alf, everyone else
in the family is aware that Alf is a puppet
and can see the puppeteer, but they they're scared for

(33:38):
their lives of the puppeteer, and so they humor the
puppeteer and treat Alf as if he is in fact
an alien. I want to watch that so very well.
You know. I'm all about taking things from our past
and turning them dark, which is a great way for

(33:59):
us to ease what's going to happen after we come
back from the break with our mashup. Okay ariel h.

(34:26):
Let's talk for a second now that we're back, Let's
talk for a second about monsters at work, because that
serves as one of the two inspirational points for our
mash up today. Yeah, so the first inspirational point is
full house um or fuller House in Jonathan's case, because
we are inspired by sitcoms. But there was also news

(34:47):
that Disney Plus is making a Monsters at Work TV
show that is a sequel to Monsters Inc. And I
guess by that account, Monsters University, Monsters You's a prequel.
It's fantastic by the way. I mean it's it's unnecessary.
It's totally unnecessary. It's a prequel that doesn't need to exist,
but it is. It is legitimately entertaining and adorable. Mm hm,

(35:11):
well so is Monsters Inc. And so I therefore think
that Monsters at Work will also be adorable. Uh. But
you know, when I was looking at I'm like, okay, sitcoms.
Full House just is ripe for yeah. Uh And I
don't know why. It's just like there was no question

(35:32):
in my mind that we needed to mash it up
with Monsters Inc. Unfortunately, I think both of our mashups
got a little bit more adult than maybe initially anticipated
going into it. Yeah, and by adult you mean dark
and or disturbing and or bleak. I mean mine's not

(35:54):
super dark or disturbing. It has a moment, but so
does Full House. Like both oll House and Fuller House
start on a sad note and then get happy. So
that's where mine is. Since yours is apparently so crushing
lee depressing, I'm gonna let you go first this time. Okay,
all right? Well, um so, yes, I did set in
Mine in the world of Fuller House. So for those

(36:18):
who are not you know, havn't ever watched it, first
of all, thank you're lucky stars. But it is a
sequel to Full House in which the character of Dj Tanner,
one of the daughters of the the in the original
Full House season. She's a grown woman. She's as the
series opens, she has recently lost her husband. She has

(36:40):
three kids. Her younger sister, Stephanie comes to live with her,
as does her childhood friend Kimmy Gibbler, and they all
are working together to try and you know, look after
the kids and just make it in a world that's
tough and etcetera, etcetera, etcetera. So um Mine is set
in the world of er House, uh and the world

(37:02):
of monsters, inc. So here we go. Dj Tanner has
a problem. She's a widow and mother with three children
who now also has her younger sister, Stephanie living in
her house. And there's Kimmy Gibbler, who for reasons I'm
only vaguely aware of, has also moved into the Tanner
family home with her own daughter. Anyway, the real problem

(37:23):
DJ has isn't with all of this. It's that there's
a monster under her bed. Not that DJ knows this though,
but the monster is lurking quietly, just hiding there. Because,
as it turns out, the Tanner Home is the secret
to Monstropolis's energy crisis. Cut to title fuller Monsters Flash Monstropolis,

(37:50):
The city has grown exponentially since the events of Monsters Inc.
Becoming a mega metropolis that covers most of the Monster
World buildings more than a hundred stories tall tower in
the incredibly dense hacked urban area. Though occasionally huge monsters
do give the buildings a run for their money, and
the monsters on the laft floor at the Monsters Ink

(38:13):
Factory are close to burning out. Even with the incredible
juice supplied by laughter, which is orders of magnitude greater
than screams, they are running dangerously close to not meeting
the energy needs of the growing city. The Monster World
is on the precipice of a true crisis. That is,
until Mike Wazowski, already a legend, tries a door that

(38:36):
hasn't ever been opened. That door leads to the Tanner
Home in San Francisco. It was always there, ready to
be used, but for whatever reason, simply was never picked.
Wazowski goes through a process of trying lots of doors
in quick succession, trying to find a solution to his
growing problem. Just as he's about to give up, he

(38:57):
sneaks into the Tanner Home and Wazowski slips under DJ's
bed on a reconnaissance mission, and there he discovers something phenomenal.
Laughter and endless supply of laughter. Not from the Tanner
family or their surrounding sphere of weirdo friends. No, it's

(39:21):
from some other source, some source that the Tanners seem
unaware of. But Wazowski hears it loud and clear. Whenever
anyone says anything, even if it doesn't remotely resemble a joke,
there's laughter, lots of it. Wazowski can collect enough power

(39:42):
in half an hour to power all of Monstropolis for
a week, and so Wazowski makes his way into the
Tanner Home on a regular basis. He doesn't even have
to do anything at all. Sometimes a guy will just
say have mercy in a way that you know, you
can tell it's a reference to something, but there's not

(40:03):
really any ooof behind it anymore. But for some reason,
the unseen audience laughs at it, or Stephanie will say
how rude and boom laughter, or heck DJ will say, oh,
my lantern, there's a ridiculous amount of laughter. Monstropolis's energy
problems are solved, but there's a cost. Day after day,

(40:31):
was Zowski sits under that bed, doing nothing but just
being there to help harvest the energy from the studio
audience laughter. He becomes despondent. He the great Mike Wowski,
the monster known for doing anything for the sake of
a laugh, the master of gags and jokes. He was

(40:54):
being overshadowed by meaningless quotes and the occasional terrible musical number.
He had put so much work into his craft, creating
a real approach to comedy that would elicit laughter. But
here was this weird family and even weirder friends who
were making it all happen without even trying. Heck it

(41:16):
a little like no one was even willing to try,
and why would they? There was no need to try?
The laughs would come even without the effort. Day after day,
was Zowski slips further into a deep depression, even as
he is surrounded by laughter. At home, people treat him
as a hero. Monstropolis continues to grow unabated. It gets

(41:39):
larger and more dense and more hungry for energy, and
was Zowski supplies it. But every day another little part
of him dies inside. Every day he hides under that bed,
not even paying attention to what's going on in the
house anymore. The laughs come one way or another, and
nothing was Owski does has any effect on it. He's

(42:03):
just there to channel the energy back home, slipping deeper
into depression and on we the world appears to be
black and white for Mike Wazowski. Laughter has lost all meaning.
There's no difference between a joke and a reference. There's
no difference between a reference and just a random line
of dialogue between two people. It all brings in the same,

(42:26):
almost robotic laughter. Flash forward ten years. Monstropolis is a
nightmare city. You can't even see the sun. The buildings
stretch up so high and block out the light. The
streets are lit with garish neon and bright incandescent bulbs.
Loud music spills out from buildings onto the streets. Monsters

(42:49):
are all on their phones and computers and other energy
hungry devices. There's a new craze in the monster world,
crypto zoology currency, which Wazowski doesn't really understand, but he
does know it requires a huge amount of energy to work.
Wazowski himself is a shell of who he once was.
His colleagues have all retired. Why work at the monster

(43:11):
in factory anyway? Was? Wazowski is collecting more energy than
anyone needs. Wazowski's own fame has faded from the minds
of the monsters. He's taken for granted and the backs
of their minds. The monsters know that without Wazowski's work
they wouldn't have their energy, but it's just a given now. Wazowski,

(43:33):
now a sickly shade of his once vibrant green, puts
his hand on the door knob to the Tanner home.
He closes his one eye in despair. A single tear
runs down the left side of his eye. He pauses
for a moment, staring at his hand on that door knob.

(43:58):
We see a close up of that hand end. It
begins to move, but is it turning the knob or
letting go, we don't know. The screen goes black and
we cut to the credit directed by Lars von Trier.
The end, Wow, I told you, was told you was bleak.

(44:23):
It is bleak um and oddly a lot closer to
my mashup than I thought it was gonna be okay,
So I might have I might have put an awful
lot of commentary on my opinions about Fuller House in
that I mean, I was gonna say salty much, but
then you brought it back from your ranch into a sad,

(44:45):
depressing drama series. Um, but I'm gonna glass half full,
your glass half empty. So this is called Uncle Sully
and the Screamers. It's and Mary Gibb formally known as Boo,
is moving back to her childhood home. Her husband has
perished in a car fire because heaven forbid, Disney have

(45:07):
more than one alive parent, and she is struggling to
take care of for three children Donna, Boo, I e
dB Sullivan, and Mike Ella. And she is also struggling
to hold on to her job as a TV producer
and pay her mortgage at the same time. Meanwhile, Mike
and Sully are hard at work on the Laughing Floor Monstropolis.
It's been harder and harder to generate enough laughs to

(45:28):
power Monstropolis over the years, as children have become more cynical,
and Mike and Sully are getting worn out trying to
meet the demand. Over lunch one day, they are reminiscing
of when they first discovered the power of laughter, how
easy it all seemed back then, and how much they
missed Boo. As they cleaned up their lunch trades, they
got a warning light and rushed back to their office
to see what was going on. The warning light was

(45:51):
attached to Booze door, but that door hadn't been active
for years. They quickly rushed to the door and turned
on a monitor to check out what was happening on
the other side, just to see a sad, stressed out
adult Boo. Mike immediately insists that they should go visit her.
They were just talking about her, so it must be
a sign. Sully, however, is hesitant, afraid that as an adult,

(46:13):
she won't remember or believe in them, and that would
break his heart. However, Mike, through some loony tune level
rabbit season duck season antics, get Sully to go through
the door, and when they get to the other side,
not only does Boo recognize them, but so do her children.
It turns out she told her kids stories about the
monsters duo, and the reunion is happy. The kids love

(46:34):
love Mike and Sully, and with their help, Mary is
able to catch up on some much needed chores and work,
and for a week, everyone is blissfully happy hijenk Sin Sue,
and for a time the three forget their worries, enveloped
in love and laughter. But at the end of a
wonderful week of Sually yelling watch the hair and Mike
saying cut it out to the kids, the two monsters

(46:54):
realize that they need to return home. Monstropolis is counting
on them. The kids all say a tearful are well,
and Mike and Sully go back through Booze door. However,
when they get to the other side, they find out
that they had forgotten to turn off the monitor to
Booze House, and while they were away, the feed was
so hilarious and popular that it caught syndication and was
broadcast to monsters and people all over the world. It

(47:18):
had become a hit, and so many people were laughing
that it was powering the whole town one hundred times over.
Mike and Sulli rushed back to tell Mary the news
and decided to move in with her. That way, Monstropolis
would get its power, Mary would get her help, and
the Hodgepodge family would live happily ever after. Oh yeah.
Once they move in, Mike starts a spinoff show called

(47:39):
Ranger Mike where he has a puppet sidekicks spider thing
let's call it a spider called Mr Waternoos and Sully
Anax's lifelong dream of being a rockabilly singer with a
great hair, and starts the band Sully and the Screamers,
very very cute. I'm glad that yours didn't go to
Laura's van. Cheer to our tory. Now. I debated, by

(48:03):
the way, I debated when I got to the end
of mine, whether the director of my piece was going
to be Lauras von Trier or were Hurts hurt Zog
and uh Lars von Trier one out? Either way, I
feel like there is kind of an existential dread in mind.
So yeah, yeah, this was this was weird aerial because

(48:24):
you know, obviously like the two properties that we picked. Uh,
neither of which are are dark or like, you know,
Monsters Inc. Has some moments that might be a little, yeah,
a little scary, for like, the whole premise is that
the monsters are trying to scare kids, right, But but
they're not dark. They're they're very fun, uplifting kind of things.
I mean, mileage may very for Fuller House, but it

(48:47):
is interesting that we both kind of took it to
that place. I think that just tells us that when
we do these creative endeavors where we try to tweak
something that we're familiar with, we don't want to just
repeat eat the stuff that's there, or you know, or
just crank up the dial a couple of notches too,

(49:08):
and you know, intensify whatever was there. We want to
transform it. And I think we did that too. I
think we did some good work. I think so too.
I also think that when you take to comedic enterprises
and you smush them together, it brings out the genuine
heartfeltness or sadness. Yeah, there was there was a deep,
deep comedy cancels it cancels each other out and all

(49:30):
you've got left is the truth. Yeah. Yeah, I didn't
even have Sully in mind, I couldn't. I couldn't think
of a way of incorporating Sully where I wouldn't do
something equally terrible to him. So I thought, let's just
limit this. Shelly Um fair enough. Yeah, well that was
that was fun for a given definition of fun for

(49:52):
for mine anyway. So we look forward to doing a
lot more of these. We are curious if any of
you out there have your own mashups of these properties
that you would like to propose, or if you have
any suggestions for mashups we should do in the future,
or things like just conversational you know, talking points you
would like us to to go over, or if you

(50:13):
you know have Cause plays you want Jonathan, Us and
I to do if we ever go back to a convention,
or if you guys do any cool causeplaces and you
want to share them with us, we would love to
see them. So there a a lot of different ways
to get in touch with us. So if you want
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(51:21):
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