Going Bananas for Cannoli

This week's news is creepy and kooky and has us turning red. Plus our mashup is a little dangerous and a little bananas.

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Speaker 1 (00:07):
The Large Ner Drunk Collider Podcast is a production of
I Heart Radio. Hey everybody, welcome to the Large Nor
Drunk Collider Podcast, the podcast that's all about the geeky
things happening in the world around us and how very
excited we are about them. I'm Ariel casting and with

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me as always is the creepy and cookie Jonathan stranglind Hey, everybody,
him and happy. Yeah, and I got Uncle Fester's haircut.
Before we get into this, though, Ariel, I have a
question for you now. My question for you is, can

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you tell me about one of your favorite movie theater experiences.
I'm sure you've got lots. You don't have to tell
me your most favorite, but tell me about the movie
theater experience that you thought was particularly fun and special.
It's when you and I went to go watch the
preview of Scott Pilgrim uh with with our respective partners

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um and then like the crew, like the crew and cast.
Some of the crew and casts were there, like Edgar
Wright and Jason Schwartzman, and I think Michael Sarah and
maybe a couple others who Michael Sarah was there didn't
stick in my head as much as the people that
I already knew, Um that now I know better where
they're doing a Q and A afterwards. It was just
such a fun experience and like it's just got some

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cool stories that maybe not everybody knows still about the production.
And I love I love watching movies for the story,
but I also love watching movies to glean like how
people act in different techniques they use and production details
and so like just the whole the whole kitten caboodle
is very interesting to me. And so that was a

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really wonderful experience. What about you, As I recalled, Schwartzman
shared with us at that experience that he acted his
scenes wearing ladies underwear. Yeah, and then that his pants
split and everybody found out later on because it was
like a character like something he did in his mind,
like this is something the character would do, so he
did it, which is hilarious. Plus the movie was a

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lot of fun. Yeah, no, that movie, and it was
the best crowd to see it in, right, because you
were in a crowd of people who were determined to
have a good time. Those are really the experiences I
think of. You know, I also got to do a
very similar thing when uh Edgar Wright and Simon Pegg
and Nick Frost came to town to promote Hot Fuzz.

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So I saw Hot Fuzz in a very similar way
to Scott Pilgrim. So uh, those are very special events.
The one that leaps to my mind though, is when
Star Trek for The Voyage Home premiered. There was a
premiere in Atlanta, not like a premiere with any of
the stars they or anything, but rather one of Atlanta's
old movie houses which no longer exists. It was torn down.

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UM was the first to show it. And my family,
you know, we I grew up an hour away from
downtown Atlanta, but we made the trip down to Atlanta
because my parents obviously big science fiction fans. UM also
big science fiction fan. And then we we went to
this theater to watch it, and they even played a
cartoon ahead of time. They played a Disney cartoon. It

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was Goofy Hockey Team cartoon, which was everyone loved. The
entire crowd was totally into the movie. Everyone was laughing
at all the jokes, everyone cheered at the music. It
was just such a wonderful group positive experience. Those are
the things I missed the most about movie theaters, you know,
I obviously I don't miss the situations where you go

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and you know there are people who are talking or
texting on their phones to the whole thing. I don't
like any of that, obviously, But when you were in
a crowd of people who were invested in what they're
watching and the movie is good, that's also important. Or
the movie is entertaining, doesn't have to be good, but
it's entertaining, it's a great experience. I mean, I definitely

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get it there. And like there's a difference too, because
I've been to opening night movies where people talk or
they gasp or they laugh all at the same things,
right because you're all seeing it for the first time.
Nothing's been ruined yet that happens less likely now and
that is amazing. And then like I went to Deadpool two. Once,
I went to a movie tavern and it was opening weekend,
and I had a couple sitting behind me, drunk off

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their butts, just talking about not movie stuff through the
entire thing. Like I have gotten less patient with people
talking and movies over the years. So um, I definitely
like like those big groups where you know the entire
audience is there for the same reason you are and
not just let's go see a movie. Not that that's
a bad reason to see a movie as someone who's

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in the industry, not necessarily a bad reason to go
see a movie, except for the fact that, you know,
if it's if it's down to how should we spend
our time, I don't know, let's go see a movie. Um,
and you're there with a crowd that's really like invested.
It does make you feel very much out of place. Yeah, yeah,
that is true. That is true. I will say the

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one time I didn't mind talking during a movie is
my husband and I went to see The Martian and
we did like one of those big AMC chair things.
Were like, uh, I'm not getting I'm not getting paid
to say AMC. But okay, they had like the chairs
that had like the Dolby surround in the headrests and
like it kind of shook the seat and so i'd
like the really pivotal stuff. Yeah, like you know, so

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I'm as things are taking off and landing on Mars
like I'm shaking, and it's very like it helps you
really invest in what's going on and kind of puts
you in that place. But there was a little girl
sitting next to us, asking her dad's science questions about
the movie through the entire movie, and you can't be
mad at that, Like, yeah, you don't want someone talking,
but it's so adorable and she's so interested that you

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have to love it. For me, it was when when
when Rebecca and I went to go see the movie
Up in the theater and the first ten minutes destroyed us.
Anyone who's seen Up knows what I'm talking about. The
first ten minutes of Up was like it was like
it was genetically engineered too to to break us psychologically.

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And I remember distinctly sitting there like holding back, just
racking sobs, and the little girls saying next to my
wife said Mommy, the people next to me are crying,
like you just don't get it, but you will don't
hopefully not for a long time, and hopefully not for

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a long time. I wasn't angry, it was more like
it almost made him start laughing. But you know, we
were still kind of emotionally traumatized by Pixar. Thanks a lot.
We might be talking a little bit more about Pixar
a bit later in this episode. Yes, if we can
get through this discussion topic, I've got one more movie
experience that you reminded me of with that little girl.
I went to watch Raiders of the Lost Arc at
like maybe you were there, I don't know, at one

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of those like flashback weekends nights at the movie theater
as a little couldn't been more than like five year
old boy and his three year old sister were there,
and he was dressed up like Indiana Jones with his
like little canteen, and he was super into playing Indiana Jones.
He would drink out of his canteen and go, I
need to get more water, and then like leave and

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then like coming back, and so like he and his
his sister gave like Statler and Waldorf level hilarious comedy
through the entire movie, and it was super adorable because
they were super into it. Um Like she at one point,
Indie and Marian Ravenwood she the in Raiders a lost
ar kiss and the little three year old girl goes

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awkward destroyed me and we all so like, yeah, oh so,
I guess I guess either like cool things where like
I know everybody in the crowd is is a geek
or into it as much as I am. And then
like kids enjoying the movie and discovering that wonder. That's

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that's yeah to sum up, agreed, great, great discussion. Now
let us move on to some news, and the first
one is something that I thought was really cool. Actually,
Rebecca pointed this out to me. I wouldn't have known
about this news if it hadn't been for her, and
that is we knew that Netflix is producing a series

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about Wednesday Adams um, apparently kind of like a supernatural
detective series where Wednesday is the lead. We now know
that Christina Ricci, who played Wednesday in The Adams Family
and Adams Family Values, has been cast in a role
obviously not Wednesday, but a role in that series. Not
just thought that's kind of cool. Yeah, my guess maybe

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she's a teacher. I'm hoping whomever she's playing is exactly
the opposite of Wednesday and she's kind of like one
of those vapid characters that we saw and when in
Adam's Family Values, because that would be amazing. First of all,
I know that Christina Ricci can play whatever she likes,
and she's she's great, but um, and she tends to

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play pretty edgy, kind of dark characters. But I would
love to see her play against Type. I mean, I
feel like in the Matrix directions whatever this latest one was,
she played somebody outside of Type, but it was also
super brief. Um. There is rumor that she brought on
was brought on to replace Thora Birch, yes, who who
left the project for reasons unknown at least to us. Um.

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But yeah, I'm I am, color me curious. I don't
know if I'm gonna dig it because sometimes these things
that feels like they're just cashing in on nostalgia, But
I'm willing to give it a shot. They're going to
have to find a real good balance between nostalgia and
going to dark for modern sake. Yeah, yeah, I mean,

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and that's the thing is, like Adam's Family could go
could could at least imply super super dark stuff, but
it did it with such kind of panache and humor
that you know, you just went with it right, like
it didn't phase you, even though if you really sit
there and think about the things that are being said
and depicted, you're like, no, this in any other context

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would be absolutely horrifying. Yeah. Yeah, it would be like
shining level horrifying. The Shining level horrifying aeg. Explain yourself
and pray make it improbable. So Ben Stiller, who I'm
guessing most people know as Zoolander, he is in talks

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to play Jack Torrence, who is like the lead character
in The Shining for an at a stage adaptation in
the West End in England, Yes, which is in London
for those who don't know where the West End is. Um, this,
this story really perplexes me. So first of all, it's

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it's going to be an adaptation not of the film
version of The Shining, which was Stanley kubricks project that
that ended up taking a different path than the novel.
Like if you've read Stephen King's book and then you
saw Stanley Kubrick's film, you would see where the connective

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tissue is. But you would say, yeah, I mean there
was a very loose adaptation when you get down to it.
There was a more faithful adaptation in a made for
TV mini series with Stephen Webber. That is the less
said about the better because it was terrible. But the
stage adaptation is supposed to like that. That mini series
is supposed to follow the book more closely and not

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so much the the movie. Um, I don't know how
I feel about that. I personally think Kubrick's film is
pure yes, and I think I think the book is good.
But I've seen quote unquote faithful adaptations of that book
and they don't do much for me. But who knows,
maybe the live stage element really will change things. I'm

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also like, my mind boggles at what kind of effects
they're going to pull off for that theatrical experience. I mean,
the article on Slash Film says that you know, it's
not the first Hora adaptation to make it to the stage,
and I am iffy on I'm glad that they're going
from the book version, because I'm honestly iffy on movies
going to stage. There's only a few that have really

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captured me. We've talked about it before Groundhog Day, Beetlejuice.
Beetlejuice has amazing effects, like amazing stagecraft, and so probably
they'll pull a little bit from that hat to get
off some of the same effects. If they can do
Beetlejuice on stage, they can do the shining. I wish
I could go to London to watch this, because not

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all of the Distiller's comedy strikes me correctly although I
do like some of it. I did like Suelander, and
I like parts of Dodgeball, and I know he can
play like a charming yet angry character because that's what
he plays in a lot of his comedy. But like
he also does some great serious stuff that does gets overlooked.
He's done work on Broadway. He's a director on Severance,

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which I haven't watched and didn't know until today it
was a sci fi show. Um, so I'm super interested
to see how it goes. I kind of hope it
goes well, um because I wanted to come to Broadway
so I can potentially watch it. Maybe that'll be my
first viewing of the shining. I certainly hope it goes
better than the stage adaptation of Misery that had Bruce

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Willis in it. But you know, is that really a thing? Well,
oh yeah, that was really a thing about after the show.
But we're gonna move on to our final little story
for this segment, which is that a company called Merlin Entertainments,
which makes amusement park attract sans, has secured the intellectual

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property rights to create Jumanji themed amusement park rides. So
now you two can fear that you will be stuck
in jungle for the next forty years. Listen. I so
as scary and as dangerous as Jumanji is, Like, people
forget that because it's so engaging, both the Robin Williams
version and the rock Kevin Hart version. Um, you watch

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the movie going that would be a lot of fun
to be a part of. I mean, I I made
the joke, but I mean, like, Jurassic Park is monumentally
more dangerous than the Jumanji films because there's a higher
death count and uh, and yet there are plenty of
amusement park rides that are modeled after Jurassic parks, so

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they're fun. But but I would also say Jurassic Park
is geared a little bit more towards adults than Jamanjee is,
just ever so slightly. We don't we don't really know
anything more about that, Like where these these meansment park
rides might end up. I mean, it really just ends
up being uh, which parks partner with Merlin Entertainments to

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build out that kind of thing. But yeah, it could
mean that we'll have some Jumanji themed attractions before too long.
I will say that I hope that they do not
end up at Madame Tiso's wax House, which Merlin also owns,
and I guess they could fit into Lego Land, but
I would hope they would not be lego versions of
Jumanji because that you'll lose something, you'll lose something. Yeah, yeah, Well,

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before we lose anything, aerial, I think we need to
go take a quick break. When we come back. We've
got a couple more news items to cover, and then
we're going to talk about that Pixar thing I was
mentioning earlier. The first I'm gonna take this quick break. Okay,

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we're back, and we had a creepy first segment and
now we have a creepy second segment. Did not work.
Thank for that, Yeah, for the creepy second segment. Well
for both segments really, because well, I mean I didn't
that we're we're both both to blame, Jonathan, Yeah, yeah, Well,

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first one is that you you've pulled up a featurette
on the upcoming sure to be blockbuster smash hit morbious,
the movie I Keep Forgetting is a thing, And apparently
I love how you how you titled the news item too,
that apparently this featurette is to remind us it is,

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in fact a thing easy to forget when Sony keeps
moving the the premier data around. Yes, but we are
going to well I say this in theory, we are
going to get it April first, so uh next week potentially. Yes, Yeah,
I know, I know, I know, shout like that might

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just be a huge joke on us, And I guess
we'll see the thing, the thing like that they were
hoping we get everybody in this little feature at because
it doesn't honestly show that much new or engaging material
that makes me go, oh, I want to see this
more than I did before. It's Jared Letto talking kind
of around the thirty second feature at saying, hey, the

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multiverse has been open, as if they're implying that Sony
was not going to have character crossovers. Yeah. Well, and
and we were talking before we started recording that. One
of the issues I have anyway, is I suspect that
for the Sony Marvel movies, you're not going to see

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a whole lot of crossover from the m c U
Marvel movies. Like I don't expect that we're going to
see characters from the m c U pop up in
Sony films that frequently, if at all, and vice versa,
with the possible exception of Spider Man, who's kind of
the an element that ties these two parallel Marvel universes together. Um,

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and so I don't really, I don't know. To me,
it's a weird thing to think about about. I don't
think we're gonna see, say, Venom show up in an
m c U movie. And the big reason for that is, again,
Spider Man is like the connective tissue, and Spider Man
in the cinematic universes doesn't have a direct connection to Venom.

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Right Like in the comics, Venom starts off as a
symbiote that bonds with Spider Man, and that's why Venom
looks the way he does in the comic books. Spider
Man three, that's that's old. We're talking about new movies, yes,
but now the old is new because they brought Toby

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McGuire into this latest Spider Man movie. That's not a spoiler.
I'm sorry what wait? What? What? Some of us haven't
seen No Way Home yet? Shoot? Is that? Did I
really just spoil that for you? I mean I knew
that Andrew Garfield, and like I thought, that was I
thought that was no longer a spoiler. I'm sorry, we

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can cut that out. It's not It's not really a spoiler.
I'm just being crouchy because I still haven't seen the movie.
I'm you, you've bought the movie. You could watch it
digitally right now. Um, but I just have to buy
it digitally to like that. The problem is that so
I bought the Blu Ray for Spider Man No Way

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Home because I still haven't seen it, and at the
time when I bought it, there was no preorder option
for a digital version, so I just thought, oh, I'll
just buy it, so I'll get it the day it
releases on Blu Ray. That day is not until the
middle of April, so I'm if I want to watch it,
I have to pay it again. I genuinely apologize if

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I have spoiled that moment for anybody who has not
seen the movie yet, because I realized not everybody can
go to the movie theaters. Um I I just figured
it was everywhere on the inter and no one could
have missed it by this point. Um. No, that's true.
I I've seen multiple references to it. I am being
a grouchy for no good. I'm not I'm not saying

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that Venom was in the movie. I'm just saying because
Toby McGuire was. Again, sorry everybody. Um, now that I'm
doubling down, it does open that door. Um, but you're
right in in the m c uth Sony joint pictures
prior to now, Venom is not a thing. I mean,
I think it could be interesting for Venom to come in, honestly, morbous. Also,

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Marvel character really hasn't had much crossover outside of Spider
Man either. Um. He almost made a cameo and Blade apparently,
but which would make sense because Blade is a vampire
vampire hunter and that is That is one example I
could I could imagine right where when we finally get

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the MCU Blade movie, for more Bus to have of
even just a cameo in that that would not be
surprising to me. Um, it would seem like a wasted
opportunity if they didn't do it, unless, of course, the
more Bious movie is a total flop. If the film
flops and the m C you would rather just not

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acknowledge it, I could understand that too. Yeah, I mean,
Sony and m c you have both said recently that
they are going to continue to play nice together and
are excited about collaborations. So, um, I'm excited to see
what that might bring about. I love the Tom Holland
Spider Man movies, and so I don't necessarily think it's
a bad thing. But this whole like, well, the multiverses

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open whatever whatever. Yeah, yeah, I mean like we can't
like the danger there is to say that the multiverse
being a thing gives an excuse to do any story whatsoever,
because that very quickly can wear out. It's welcome something
else they can wear out. It's welcomes excessive marketing. Yes, yes,

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like we've been getting for Moonnight. I don't know, like
it's not as pervasive as the marketing for Eternals was.
Moon Night being a TV show with Oscar Isaac that's
coming out on Dizzy Plus kind of a darker according
to some of these clips that I have watched, and
I'm not going to spoil what's in them, A darker
show for sure, which we already knew. Um, but yeah,

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they keep releasing like every few days another clip from
the show, and to me, they are things that while
they don't necessarily hold context without the rest of the show,
I feel like pivotal moments that have now been spoiled
for me see, and I have refused to watch those.
I've seen them pop up in my suggested videos feed,

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but I same with eternals. I didn't watch them for
that and I tried to avoid those. I get that
it's Disney kind of taking this blanket marketing approach in
order to raise awareness and excitement for series. But for
someone like me, who I'm kind of bought in on
the m C you already to to the largest extent.

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I mean not everything that's come out in the MCU
has excited me, but I'm pretty much all in at
this point. I'm gonna go see it. So I I
have purposefully avoided it because I still want to be
surprised at certain points while I watched the series, and I,
like you were saying, I get the feeling that the
more of those featurettes that pop up, the fewer of

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those little moments of delight you're gonna have. Yeah. What
I will say, and this won't spoil anything, I promise,
and if it does, we'll cut it out, is that
one of the little feature at clips felt very in
line with something well more in line with something that
came over from Netflix, and one of the clips felt
more in line with any of the other Disney Plus

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Marvel television shows, and so I'm really curious to see
how they marry them. Especially really sense in all of
the clips, like the c g I is just not
that impressive to me. Yeah, I mean that that seems
to be the case with a lot of the Disney
Plus series, right, like that the effects are a pretty
big step down from what you would see in the cinematic,

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which I mean you understand, like obviously the series are
not going to have the same budget as a big
ticket movie project, but it's still kind of a it
still kind of pulls you out of the moment when
you can sort of see like it's it's like being
at a puppet show and suddenly you can all you
can see are the strings. Yeah, I mean that being said, like,

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it didn't bother me in Loki. I thought Loki Loki
also had some really amazing camera work that took place
for some of its effects that just was so breathtaking,
and it didn't bother me in uh one division because
they also used a lot of practical effects to get
the style of like how the old TV shows, did
affe X right. Well, the thing that bothered me and

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Loki was the fact that they shot at the Georgia
Renaissance Festival, but they moved some of the shop signs around,
and that just really irritated me. You know what got me?
First of all? Okay, first of all, I might have
already gone off about this, and if so, I'm sorry.
They shout at the Georgia Renaissance Festival, which I was
an actor at for I think like eleven ten eleven years.

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I did not get an audition for it. And then
the woman who did it, and I realized this is scripting,
totally acted out of character for an actual Renaissance Festival performer.
Like it bothered me more than any LARPing scene in Hawkeye,
which I also did not get an audition for. At
least the Renaissance Fair, from what I could tell, was
supposed to be taking place in a different part of

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the world. So we know that it's not the Georgia
Festival because we don't put up with that crap. Yes, well, yes,
that was the Well, let's let's spend a couple of minutes,
but we just got a couple left. Well, I wanted
to quickly talk about ing Red, which is the new
Pixar film which didn't get a ton of marketing. It
did not you know, I got a little bit of it,

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but and I was anticipating it as I was waiting
for it to come out on Disney Pluss, and when
I watched it, I was delighted. It's follows a young
Canadian Chinese girl, um as she turns thirteen, and it's
you know, it's it's a nut at all subtle tale
that's dealing with uh maturity and uh. You know, there's

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a whole thing about uh, the mother misinterpreting what's going
on with UH, with the character getting her first period,
and it's a lot of stuff that I think that um,
for people of a certain persuasion had trouble connecting with.
I'm saying like straight white dudes, because there was this

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famous straight white dude who wrote a review that was like,
I can't feel any connections to this character. And my
response was, literally, every other piece of media is pretty
much geared for you. Yes, you don't have to connect
to everything. Back the heck off. Meanwhile, I thought it
was a lot of fun, but um, you said that
you know for the most part you felt the same,

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but you had a couple of other thoughts too. Yeah. So,
first of all, it was a really interesting art style.
It had some of the most beautiful c G I've
ever seen, along with some what I can only equate
to almost like Wallace and Grommit level cut c character design. Um.
It was especially the eyes whenever they would get excited

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eyes and then the mouse kind of had like the
rounded corners like Wallace and Grommit, not as not as
pronounced um, which we aren't familiar with Wallace and Gramma.
It's a delightful clammation series. You should watch it. Um.
But I thought it was delightful. The first ten minutes
had me cackling because boy did I relate to that
growing up. I love how the movie deals things like

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periods because character does get a period. Spoilers, Um, you know,
so they it's the first movie I've seen pad Disney movie, really,
any kids movie where they've put pads into the movie. Um,
that isn't like that isn't like an edgy or teen drama.
Obviously there are some that are, but you know, like Pixar,
Disney never has never shown that. Um. I do like

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I do like the story of Like Kids, the struggle
of like being a kid and trying to find your
And I feel like this crosses whatever gender. Every child
grows up trying to figure out who they are and
what they like, and that doesn't always mesh with the parents.
And if you love your parents, then you know you're
worried about hurting them because your viewpoints are different. So
all of that I thought was great. The issue I

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had with it, and maybe this is just uh archive
of of my upbringing, is that. And I have the
same issue with The Little Mermaid is that you have
this child who's rebellious to find in their own way.
That's great, that's fine. Who reconciles with their parents at
the end, But there is absolutely no no like consequence

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or acknowledgement of the wrongdoing for that. And like I get,
when you're a teenager, you do things. You you you
sneak out of the the house. You you know, not that
I ever did, mom, I know you listen, um, yeah,
but you do things to test your boundaries and that's fine.
Usually there are consequences. And I feel like thirteen is

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there were some times where the kid would be like,
I'm thirteen and I'm doing this and I'm like, thirteen
is maybe it's sixteen. I would think it was okay
at thirteen. I still feel like there should be a
little bit more of a consequence for some of the
things the kid was doing, because at thirteen you're still
pretty much a kid, like you think you're an adult.
I agree with that mostly, but I mean I I

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give a lot of I give a lot of leeway
to films because generally speaking, you know, a lot of
the movies I love involve things that happened where at
the resolution of the film, everything seems to be okay,
but if you thought about it for more than five seconds,
you'd say, you know, there's there's a lot that's gonna
be that's gonna need to be addressed because of this. Heck.

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I mean, like the Marvel films are great examples, right,
like their entire cities that are destroyed, where they kind
of reference it in future films, but they don't really
reconcile with it. So I gave a lot of of
forgiveness for that. UM just really curious before we wrap
up and move on to our our next segment, did

(30:36):
you have a favorite character, because I definitely did. Uh, Yes,
it was Priya. Priya is kind of like the dead
pan April Ludgate if you're familiar with Parks and Rex,
sort of best friend who's totally there. I thought she
was channeling Rosa from Brooklyn nine nine. Yes, that too.

(30:56):
Like at first I thought it might have been, um,
this say, the same voice actress, but it's not, because
she just did Marabella Incanto. There's a lot of overlap
thematically Withincanto, like the whole like perfect child kind of thing.
My favorite character was Abby because that manic energy, the
little short one who was just like super like aggressive.

(31:19):
I thought she made me laugh every time she was
on screen, so big right here she was. She was funny,
like I said, super relatable and you know, looking back
at thirteen, I felt all of those things. You know.
Um that being said, like, if you're a parent with
a kid who is not yet thirteen, maybe watch it

(31:41):
first because every child is different and not every child
might know that. You know, these are boundaries that you
maybe shouldn't cross, even though this character crossed it and
was fine. Um, but that's you know, that's why you
watch movies with your kids and you explain, you talk
about it, right, That's that's partly the point is to
open discussions. So I mean like I grew up in
the eighties and I turned out beautifully. She turned out

(32:05):
beautifully if you look at if you look at the
entertainment that I was, that I had access to in
the eighties. Who boy, it's a miracle. But he also
had an open dialogue with your parents. I did. I
did we have a miracle to bring to you Right
after this break, as we get into some mash up material,

(32:39):
I might have oversold that area. I mean, possibly true,
possibly true. I liked it. It invoked like physical movement
in me, which I have not had enough of today,
even though we're a audio platform and people can't see
me do my cool like interpretive speaking. No, but if

(32:59):
you if you watch, if you watch the videos that
we did as Larger Drunk Collider from many years ago,
I guarantee you you will see a very similar gesture
to what Ariel just did in one of Yes, definitely
I missed those videos. I kind of want to redo them.
If people want to see videos, they should write us
and tell us. We'll tell you how at the end
of the episode. Um not, don't know if we if

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we'll be able to, but we'll definitely consider it. Well
darnwell want to. Yes, we are mashing up a couple
of things that we haven't talked about, and that is
King Kong and The Godfather. Now King Kong, we we
kind of came to because we know that there's going
to be a Godzilla Versus Kong sequel that's going to

(33:42):
go into production this year shooting in Australia. Um, I
never saw the first one, so I mean, I'm just
assuming that there wasn't a definitive end where one of
them ate the other one. Now there was not. Sorry
again spoilers. It's been out a long time and it's
out on HBO Max. If you have HBO Max, you
can watch it. Um No, there was not a definitive ending.

(34:04):
There never is in a monster movie. Even if it's
a definitive ending, it's not a definitive ending like no,
you gotta be you gotta leave room for sequels. Yeah,
and and The Godfather because the day that this episode
comes out, the Godfather turns fifty years old. Doesn't look
a day over thirty five. No, it's still a decent

(34:28):
mob movie. Um, So it's okay. It's a it's a
good movie, that's what it is. It's a masterpiece. Godfather
is a man like Godfather and Godfather two are practically
untouchable about Godfather three Mafia movies. That is a totally

(34:50):
touchable mafia. Okay, so I like it. It's long. I
don't need to watch it all the time. Do we
want to explain long what these movies are for people
who are not familiar? I mean, okay, So King Kong.
It's about a giant ape that is captured on an
island called Skull Island, brought over to New York, climbs

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the Empire State building, falls off, dies the end. It
turns out Beauty killed the Beast. Godfather film about a
family called the Corleone family in New York, one of
the five families of the fictional versions of the Five
Families representing five different crime families in New York. The

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the the title character, Godfather, is played by Marlon Brando.
He's Vito Corleone and he leads the Corleone family. His
son Michael, his youngest son, is back from World War Two,
and then the story pretty much follows that family's journey
as they get into conflicts with one of the other

(35:53):
the Five families, and yeah, it's it's a lot of
mob mob stuff and a lot of the famous famous
lines that you hear quoted all the time. Even if
you've never seen The Godfather, chances are you've heard the
lines things like take the gun, leave or leave the gun,
take the cannolis, or he's sleeping with the fishes, or uh,

(36:13):
you know, I'm going to give you my daughter's wedding. Yeah,
I'm going to give you revenge is a dish best,
that's that's it's not that. But yes, a lot of
the famous quotes you've heard probably gave Rother the Godfather,

(36:34):
not things like that or we're gonna need a bigger boat.
Not all quotes came from the Godfather. I cold was
from the Godfather. Oh my gosh, it's been so that quote.
We're not going to go into it, but that quote
is very old and has been used in tons of
stuff from Star Trek to mean pretty much everything you can.
But we're going to now mesh up King Kong and

(36:58):
the Godfather, and um, believe it or not, mine is
actually a little short this time. Um, I know I
say that a lot. Okay, good. Do you want me
to go first this time? Okay, mine is called and
I'll be shocked if yours is called something else. The
Kong Father, all right, Michael Corleone has a problem. See
his father, Kong the King. Corleone is the head of

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an Italian crime syndicate. He's also a thirty foot tall
giant ape. So, as you can imagine, Michael's life hasn't
been what you would call typical. He's the youngest of
Kong's sons, the other being Sonny and Fredo, and he's
got also got a sister named Connie. And it's at
Connie's wedding where we pick up on our story where
Michael is introducing his girlfriend k to the rest of

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his family while trying to keep the family business on
the down low. Meanwhile, folks are seeking counsel with the
Kong Father, And there's this awesome scene where we see
this guy asking Kong cor Leone to step in an
exact justice on a couple of terrible dudes who wronged
this guy in a way that's legit awful. I'm not
going to go into it that Corleone says. Now we

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see in subtitles that what that means is you come
on the day of my my daughter is to be married.
Whatever have I done to you for you to treat
me so disrespectfully. If you had come to me in friendship,
I would have thrown these guys from the Empire State Building.
But then guys like that would fear you. And one day,
and this day may never come, you will do a

(38:26):
service for me. But until that day, except this gesture
as a gift on my daughter's wedding day. And it's iconic.
And you barely noticed that con cor Leone is like
all folded up so he can fit into this room
in the first place, because he's a thirty foot tall
giant eight. Anyway, we find out that there's a rival
crime family that has invited con cor Leone to join

(38:48):
a narcotics ring. But cong he's a little cautious. He
doesn't like it when he's you know, hit with narcotics.
I mean, that's how he ended up in America in
the first place. And he decides he's going to turn
down the opportunity. But then he becomes a target. Literally
one day, he's out on the streets in New York.
He's minding his own business, causing traffic jams everywhere as

(39:09):
he lumbers down the street, and he suddenly attacked a
bunch of biplanes armed with machine guns zoom in and
starts shooting him up a bunch of times. So Kong
survives this attack, but he's whisked off to a really
big veterinary clinic. Meanwhile, Sonny takes charge of the Corleone family,
and Michael, determined to avenge his pop, agrees to put

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a hit on the guys that the Corleones have identified
as being behind that attack. Immediately after that hit, Michael
has to flee the United States, and so he seeks
the relative safety of Skull Island, the homeland of his father.
Kong slowly recovers in the veterinary clinic, but he worries
about the safety of his family as hostilities between the

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various crime families in New York have really escalated and Sonny,
his eldest son, tends to be pretty hot headed. Meanwhile,
the Corleones have have to worry about the Marinzanos, the Tatalias,
the dinosaurs, and the giant chattering insects. Because the crime
families in New York are pretty weird. Sonny enraged at

(40:11):
the attempt on his father's life, sends Cappo Peter Clemenza
out on this uh, this, this this mission to deal
with a particularly nasty dinosaur that was involved in the shooting.
And so Clemenza and his associate Rocco, and then the
dinosaur known as Ghattosaurus go for a ride with Fay
Ray there who's also in the car, but Jesus sleep.

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Clemenza has the gatosaurus drive the car out to the countryside,
and then Rocco wax the dinosaurs, shoots him in the
back of the head three times, and then Clemenza says
to Rocco the famous line, leave the gun, take the bananas. Anyway.
We follow Michael a bit as he settles in on
Skull Island, but always has to you know, dodge various
assassination attempts and the occasional delusional Hollywood director who comes

(40:55):
to the island for some reason. Meanwhile, back home, Sonny
gets ambushed by some of those giant insects and then
he dies, and Kong, wishing to avoid extinction, makes a
deal with the other families, and in return, Michael safety
is assured and he comes back to the US. So
then the Kong Father decides, you know what, I can
handle this, and he goes eight literally on the other

(41:15):
four families. I mean, he starts throwing around soldiers and
capos left and right and center. He bats airplanes out
of the sky. He bounds the other families into submission,
until ultimately he has reasserted his position as the true
Kong Father of New York. And we conclude in a
scene where Cong Corleone is relaxing in an orange grove
and he's picking up entire trees and just shoving them

(41:37):
into his mouth, and then he suffers a massive heart attack.
I mean it would have to be a massive heart
attack because he again he's huge, but that's I mean,
it's a fatal heart attack. He dies, and Michael becomes
the new Kong Father, which requires him to both grow
about twenty four ft taller and sprout furrel over his body,
but Michael, being an obedient son, doesn't, and so we
in the movie we see Michael the new Kong Father

(42:00):
other as he begins to receive visitors, all of whom
carry enormous creates a bananas in tribute, and a gorgeous
blonde woman dressed in black quietly enters the room, cut
to credits. Oh, I absolutely loved it. That was wonderful.
I would watch it, sucker, what no, I like that.

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I like bananas better than Cannoli's. Um it totally hit. Okay,
I feel exactly the opposite. I love Cannolis and I
am not a banana fan. I like Cannolis, but I
love bananas. Okay, well, Ariel, I am curious to hear
your treatment of this pairing. Okay, yes, So originally I

(42:47):
had picked the title The Kong Father, but I do
have a backup title. I just need to be very
very clear as we go through my mash up of
what I am saying. This is King Dawn d o
n that's it, uh, Because I had the door open

(43:12):
today and I went for a walk yesterday, so I'm
a little bit stuffy and I'm kind of accidentally putting
other letters on the end of my words sometimes, Okay, Okay.
So our stories are a little similar, but also completely not.
Our story starts out on a boat where famed director
and cinematographer Carl Denham has assembled a team of movie

(43:32):
makers to travel to a place. If you know of Cranio,
Isla or skull islanding in English, an uncharted island off
the coast of Italy to find a mysterious identity called
the Dawn. Two of said movie makers that Carl recruited.
We're Connie an Adams, a lovely Italian American blonde actress,
and Jack Fontaine, a scriptwriter or deck hand or singer.

(43:54):
He never really gives a straight answer as to who
he is. Upon landing on the island, they see the
low pols of the island giving offerings to a statue
of what the group can only assume is the Dawn
while asking for requests. The film crew decided not to
interfere as the sun sets and set up camp out
of sight from the local village. When the crew awakes
from what they thought was a peaceful night, they discovered

(44:17):
that Connie, the actress, has been abducted, and in her
place is the head of a stegasaurus in her bed.
The crew have many questions on finding this out, but
push them aside, realizing first and foremost that the important
thing is to find and rescue Connie. When they find her,
she is in the village being offered as the bride

(44:37):
of Dawn to appease the being of legend, and that's
when they see him, a giant, hulking, twenty five ft
tall man in a sharp suit with slicked back hair,
appearing out of the jungle. He sees Connie, his new bride,
and the village is about to marry him when he
notices the film crew running up, and he grabs Connie

(44:59):
and runs off into the jun goal. Carl, the director,
was prepared to fight the beast, however, and follows close behind,
screaming to him to stop. When the Dawn reaches an impass,
he stops and mumbles something to the crew. The crew
think they almost understand. It wasn't English, surely not, so
they pause and they say what The dawn repeats what

(45:21):
it said, but the crew still does not understand what
they say again, and this time the Dawn signs at them,
a communication method that he learned from the locals, who
also couldn't understand him. Carl, tired of the back and forth,
orders his crew to shoot the dawn with tranquilizer darts,
and the Dawn falls to the ground signing. And this

(45:43):
on the day of my wedding, dropping Connie, the bride
of the Dawn, in the process. Now having the legendary
Dawn knocked out but unable to continue the movie, Carl,
the director, decides to take the Dawn back to the mainland.
They escape the locals and do just that. Along the way,
Connie and the Dawn bough she finds out that he
isn't like that. That I mean, he's bad, but he

(46:04):
isn't that bad, or so she thought. And that is
until they get to the mainland, when Carl and the
rest realized something they hadn't before. The Dawn was a
former mob boss, Vito Corleone, known as the Godfather, who
had escaped an assassination attempt on him from the Five Families,
well four if you exclude his own, by escaping Italy,

(46:24):
and when that didn't work, he went to Cranio Island,
uh and was assumed dead as soon as he arrived
on the island. However, the bizarre magical power that kept
you know, like Stegasaurus is alive mixed with the immense
family plant power Vito had and combined and mutated him
into a giant beast version of himself. The problem is,
now that he was back on the mainland, the families

(46:45):
were after him again. Eager to finish off the job
they had started. As soon as the Dawn sees the
first hit coming at him, he grabs Connie protect her
and runs off, being chased up the leaning Tower of Pisa.
Surrounded and nowhere to go, he puts Connie on the
top of the building he has promptly gunned down, and
falls onto the local pizzeria next door. He mumbles as

(47:07):
he dies, I guess and if very going to refuse,
but only Connie understood and grieved for him. Years later,
newspapers and historians have changed the story to say it
was an ape because they thought the real story would
be too hard to believe. The end, it was beauty
that killed the Dawn, Yes, Dawn. That was a lot

(47:30):
of fun and weird. One of the weirdest mashups we've
done so far, I think, which is odd because it's yeah,
it's odd because it's you know, we've picked more far
out films too to serve as mash up fodder. So obviously,
if you have your own thoughts about how to mash
up King Kong and the Godfather and create some sort

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of monstrosity the way we did, we want to hear
about it. The best way to do that is to
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