January 6, 2021 • 36 mins
It's the new year, when we think back fondly on our favorite things and anticipate upcoming geekery. We chat about how we are starting off the new year, talk about future news and futuristic jobs, and discuss how our favorite things don't always hold up to the test of time aka the Goonies Effect.
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Speaker 1 (00:07):
The Large Nerdron Collider Podcast is a production of I
Heart Radio. Hey everybody, welcome to the Large Nerdron Collider Podcast,
the podcast that's all about the geeky things happening in
the world around us and how very excited we are
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about them. I am Ariel casting and with me as
always is super amazing, sometimes wistful. Jonathan Strickland For a moment, Ariel,
I thought you were going to say, I'm sometimes super amazing. Ariel.
I've got a question for you. So, Ariel, you are
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a fan of the Star Trek. Correct, I am a
fan of the star That wasn't your question. That was
just the It was an easy one. This could still
be an easy one. So my question for you is,
if you were a crew member on the Starship Enterprise,
which department or position would you work in? So, would
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you be part of engineering, would you be part of
the bridge crew? If so, which position would you be in?
Science or security or tactical? What would you what would
you do? And for the for the purposes of clarity,
we're looking at Star Trek next generation era. Okay, that's
that's good because you know it automatic your question automatically
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took out Deep Space nine, which is my favorite of them.
Uh so I would be I think i'd be in
in the education department. I would be the one teaching
the kids on the Enterprise croovy awesome. Yeah, because that's
something that obviously would not apply in the original series,
because the original Enterprise didn't have families aboard the way
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Next Generation did. It's a great answer, thank you. If
if it were original series, I think I would be
in science. I wanna want to do the science e things. Yeah,
you look good in blue. Thank you? What would you do? Oh?
Thank you for asking Next Generation. I'm a lounge singer
and ten forward. You know what that's that's pretty fantastic.
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I'm a little sad I didn't say that. Well, I
have the benefit of thinking up the questions, so you're
always a disadvantage. But yes, it's time for us to
launch into one Happy New Year aerial. Happy New Year, gentleman,
and we thought we would start off by talking about
how if we did anything geeky at the beginning of one.
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I kind of have an answer for this, but I'm
curious what you did. Uh well, I threw aside all
of my New Year's resolutions to get in shape and
be more active and be more productive. And I spent
the entire first day of one binge watching the third
season of Cobra Kai and it was pretty fantastic. So
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you are not that I'm going to drop any spoilers
here because there may be people who have not watched
it yet, but you got to see the the return
of a character from the Karate Kid franchise who had
been hinted at previously. I take it. Yes, yes, there
there were many many moments that had me happy, that
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had me crying, that had me yelling you at my
TV screen. It was really fantastic. That's awesome. Well, I
didn't really do much of anything on New Year's Day.
I'm not I'm not, to be very perfectly honest, I'm
not big on celebrating New Year's even on years when
I can go out of the house. But I will
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say that yesterday as of when we're recording this, we're
recording this on Monday night, so it's January four where
we are. On January three, I watched the first episode
of the Watch, the BBC series that is loosely inspired
by the Terry Pratchett Discworld novels, and even going into
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it knowing that there was a huge gap between the
source material and this adaptation or this series. Even going
into it knowing that, I was like, I don't even
I don't even know why they bothered because I think
this will be a discussion topic for a future episode
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of ellen c. But there comes a point I think
when you're working with source material, when you get far
enough away from it that it just leads to questions like,
why did you even bother being associated with the source
material if you're going to be this far away from it. Yeah.
I think sometimes people decide to make h a movie
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or a television show because they love a property, but
their idea is just inspired by Yeah. Well, I described it.
I described it to people on Twitter. I said it
was as if someone had skimmed the Discworld books and
then badly described them to somebody else who happened to
be a big fan of train Spotting, and that person
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went and made the series because there is a very
kind of punk rock train spotting element to the series
that is not something that's inherent in the books. But
you know, to teach their own I'm not saying it's
a bad series, by the way. I'm saying I didn't
like it because I really love the source material, and
I just felt that it was so far from that
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source material that it was more distracting than anything else.
I couldn't even think of it as being like, this
is a fun alternate universe take on it. To me,
it was just like, what's the point? So anyway, But
we'll get into more of that in a future episode
of Ellency. Not specifically that example necessarily, but this this
trend of adaptations or reboots that are only tangentially based
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on the source material. But for today, we've got some
other news to cover. Hey there, it's Jonathan from the future.
I'm interrupting this episode of Large Nergron Colleator because our
first topic that we covered in this episode was on
a news story that was since proven to be false,
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and so why needed to remove it before this episode aired?
And that means that we have an odd transition into
what would have been our second story, but now is
our first story because that's how time travel works. Thank
you for coming on this time travel adventure with me.
Let's rejoin the show already in progress. The next thing
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we want to talk about is Superman and lois the
new CW show uh Is has a trailer, Yeah, more
of a teaser, but yeah, more it's a it's a teaser.
It you know, it came out right around the New Year,
and it's not surprising. We knew the show was coming up.
We knew that a bunch of other CW superhero shows
were ending. You know. I think it's good of them
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too and shows before they've been on too long and
give us new things. I really like uh Superman and
Lois as they were depicted in Supergirl. So from my
viewing of them in Supergirl, I was excited about this series,
but the teaser didn't really spark my interest the same
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way the news about the show did. Interesting. Now, I
never watched Supergirl, so full disclosure, there are we talking
about the same actors playing Superman and Lois in this
series as from Supergirl? Yes? Okay? And and in the
Supergirl series, are they already parents? You know, I don't know.
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I think that they because I think that they became
children or they became parents in Crisis on Infinite Earth,
which full disclosure, I'm still working my way through. But
in the new series they are. They have moved back
to Smallville, they have two sons um who I believe
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our teenagers, at least that's the way they look in
the teaser. And so the teaser kind of just touches
on the fact that there are these the story is
going to really revolve around Superman and his family. To me,
it raises a lot of questions like how alien and
humans have interoperable DNA. But you know, hey, listen, the
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comics already play with that loose and fast, so the
TV show show doing it is nothing new. I will
say that when we watched the trailer, it didn't it
was very different from any other sort of trailer for
c W superhero shows that have seen. It almost looked
like an animated comic. Um. And the interesting thing about
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it is they show a lot of like the crystalline
world that you know, the Phantom zone. They showed the
Phantom zone in this in Crystals in the original Superman movie. Um.
But there is a story in Infinite Crisis where, uh,
Superman and super Boy and all these people end up
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being bad guys because Luther is trying to create their
own universe and they escape this crystalline world and then
end up killing a bunch of people. Uh, And it's
actually a part of that ties into wonder Woman eighty
four with uh, wonder Woman and Max Lord. As we
saw at the end of the Wonder Woman movie that
just came out on Woman A four being repetitive. Everybody
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sorry w W two because that would be confusing, That
would be confusing. But that storyline, even though you know,
I don't want to spoil it for anybody who hasn't
seen it, isn't exactly as it goes in the comics,
is something that ties into that story where Superman is
a bad guy and it kind of looks like that
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in the trailer. Now again, I don't necessarily think they
will do that, but it was an interesting parallel considering
the release of both um pieces of media. Well, I
am so far unenthused by this, But then also to
be fair, like I said, I haven't been following any
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of the d C television series, so arguably this is
more because I haven't gone to the trouble of finding
those and watching them, rather than a comment on the
concept of the show itself. I just feel like this
is something that has passed me by, and I'm okay
with that. I need to watch more Legends of Tomorrow
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that's one that hit me poorly at the beginning and
then apparently got really good. Our next story is about
another trailer, this one for Evangelion or Evan Gillian if
you prefer three point oh plus one point oh, which
why But anyway, it's the fourth film. I guess that's
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why because it's the fourth film in the trilogy. But
it's the fourth film that is set in this universe
and is to conclude the Evangelian storylines, which if you
are not familiar, it's an anime series that is all
about these young kids or teenagers who are linked to
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giant mix so very common kind of thread in in
Japanese animation, uh, that are battling against angels, these creatures
called angels that are threatening to destroy the world. And
this one is supposed to kind of wrap things up.
The series of Angelian had a pretty definitive ending, but
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it was also an ending that a lot of people
just did not like, so it ended up being kind
of red cond It was very very confusing. Yeah, a lot,
I think a lot got lost in translation h between
the original story and the American translation of it. So yeah,
so this new one is is a very different ending
and kind of takes all of the MEC pilots to
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new storylines and new adventures. And yeah, they all of
them have been like while concluding, all of them have
been like one point one, two point two, three point
three three. So yeah, I don't know why they're doing
the weird naming convention, but um, I'm excited for it.
I watched the entire series. I own all of the
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videos up to this point. Um so well, And this
is a series that has gained a lot of credit
for doing things like like reinvigorating anime in Japan and
also adding a new interpretation of the Mecca type of
animation or the Meca type of trope in Japanese animation,
which had kind of run the whole length of where
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it could go using the more traditional approach. I mean,
I think of everything from um, you know, like, uh,
look at the sort of battle tech type stuff that
you can look at. Um Uh. Gigant Or I knew
I could think of. I knew if I thought hard
enough it would come up to me. But gigant Or
a classic old anime. Gigantoor is a great big robot
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um and he's controlled by a little kid. It's a
common theme in Japan Japanese animation, so it'll be good
to have this series have a send off. It will
I'm I'm looking forward to it. Along the line of robots,
I want to say, another thing that I discovered over
the New Year's holiday was the video of Boston Dynamics
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having all of their robots dance to do You Love Me.
So we're going from kind of robot with souls being
piloted by kids too, just AI robots piloting themselves. Yeah,
these were robots obviously, that were programmed to do a
choreographed routine. It's not like they had AI. Yes they were, Yes,
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serial they were. They were not using AI to just
find the group. And you know how I can tell
because when you get to the mashed Potato and I
can do the twist and all those songs, they actually
do the appropriate dance moves for those dances. So yes,
it's very cute. I'm sure that most of you have
probably seen it. It went viral, but in case you haven't,
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make sure you search Boston Dynamics Dancing Robots. It is adorable.
I am you know, it is adorable, and it took
all of these robots that were really cool but kind
of creepy. It made them lovable to me. S yes,
I agree. All right, Well, let's let's have our wrap up,
our final news item for this segment, I'm calling the audible.
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Let's talk about the incredible journey of rhetta Twi the
TikTok Musical. Yes, so, a bunch of people on TikTok
decided they wanted to kind of put together this Foe
da Ti musical and then it became a real thing.
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This is crazy aerial because it started off as one
person creating a song and then someone else orchestrating that
song as if it were a true Broadway musical, and
then other people just leapt in and started to contribute
stuff like a playbill and costume design and things like this.
And then yeah, ce View Productions announced they were producing
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the show in association with TikTok. Disney gave its blessing,
and a whole bunch of celebrity has jumped into perform
in it. You know, Titus Burgess, Wayne Brady, Andre de Shields,
who was he was Hermes in Hadestown and he played
he played the critic um and read it to it. Yeah,
it's it's fascinating to me. The most fascinating part of this,
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I mean, apart from the fact that it grew organically
as a true meme as people began to contribute to it.
The other part that I think is fascinating is that
Disney said, okay, because that company is notoriously protective of
their intellectual property. Yeah, yeah, it's It's pretty fantastic. It's
very uplifting. Uh. They sold more than a million dollars
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in tickets, which all went to the Actors Fund to
help all of these Broadway performers who aren't currently working. Yeah,
you may not be able to watch it. They're saying
it's it's only available till January four at seven pm,
which is the day we're recording this, So we're talking
about it two days late to you. But um, I'm
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hopeful that they will put it back out on the
internet or you can at least catch clips of this
if you haven't already. My hope is that there will
be a video on demand thing where you can continue
to make like a contribution to the Actors Fund and
be able to see it. But that all depends upon
you know, there there may actually be agreements in place
that with Disney that says that this was a one
and one time only thing. I don't know, but that
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wraps up our news for the beginning of one. And
when we come back, we're gonna have a deeper dive
discussion about something that Aerial calls the Goonies effect, but
that will be after this break, all right, So let's
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talk about the Goonies effect? Ariel, what is the Goonies effect?
You coined this phrase. I did not coin this phrase.
My friends coins this phrase, but it makes a lot
of sense to me. So they's effect is when you've
got a movie that you watched as a kid a
teenager and you absolutely loved it, just like the transformational
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movie to you, and then you show it to a
friend who didn't watch it when the movie came out,
who didn't watch it at a pivotal time in their life,
and to them, it's just okay, or even worse, or
even worse, or it's a bad movie. So one of
the movies I hear this most often about is Goonies.
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If you if you watched Goonies when you were a
kid or a teenager, you probably really liked it. And
then if you watched it as an adult, it may
not have hit home for you because you're just not
in that period of your life anymore. It may it
may feel like it's just a bunch of kids constantly screaming,
because that's kind of what that movie is. And I
say that as someone who actually enjoyed it because I
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was a kid when that movie came out. The movie
came out, So I was ten when the movie came out,
and uh yeah, I was the right age for that
to really hit home, and I enjoyed it, and um yeah,
as an adult, I can recognize, like I still can
watch it and enjoy it because I still have that
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that nostalgic link to it, but I also can recognize
that it's not necessarily the best film in the world.
So so our friend shay Lee, Uh, she is someone
who does not like the Goonies, and she's told me,
she's like, I've tried, I've tried watching it. I don't
like it. But she's younger than both of us, and
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she didn't grow up with that movie and it didn't
come out at a time where it would have kind
of latched onto her. So I've definitely experienced this. I
think it can go the other way too. There can
be movies that are pivotal for younger generations that just
don't resonate with older ones. So for example, like I
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know a lot of people who were about maybe five
to ten years younger than I am, who really likes
sand Lot, I couldn't care less. Or as going back
to our friend, say, she loves the movie hocus Pocus,
and I know a lot of my friends who are
of her age or even your age Aeriel, which is
not that much older than she. I want to be clear,
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Ariel is younger than I am, but older than Shay.
But but like people in in that age group tend
to really like that movie, and again it does nothing
for me. Yeah, I would agree. Hocus Pocus is one
I didn't watch until i'd say the last five years,
and it was cute, but it wasn't the end, I'll
be all to me. And I think maybe that's because
other movies have done that concept better since that time,
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and that's what I was introduced to. You know, for me,
I think my biggest, my favorite Goonies effect movie is
not the third Star Wars movie, as much as I
love E Walks, because that's another big one. If you know,
there's a big ag app on whether you like e
walks or not theory. Um, but Flight to the Navigator interesting, Yeah,
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the one that it's a story about a young boy
befriending and artificially intelligent spaceship. Spaceship voiced by pee Wee Herman. Yes,
and it's got Sarah Jessica Parker in it. And to me,
this this movie was like the best sci fi movie.
It's it's what took sci fi and made it relatable
to me. And I loved it and I still love it.
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And whenever I try to introduce somebody to it now
it's hard to even get them to agree to sit
through the entire thing because they look at it and say,
why do I want to watch a kid's sci fi
from the eighties and nineties with bad special effects? Now,
I don't think these special effects are that bad. They
used a lot of puppets, but yeah, and they had
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some like c g I stuff too. The spaceship could
change shape and it was a c G I but
it was very shiny, like chrome like space ship that
was able to you know, because there wasn't a lot
of detail there. It was more like shapes and angles
that it worked out pretty well. Yeah, And a lot
of the movies that that you have listed on our
little list here feels like, uh like. Part of this
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is also in pacing, because a lot of the movies
from say, when we were kids had a slightly more
methodical pace to them. They were slower paced, and some
of them are even slow paced for the movies of
their day. Like one of the movies you have listed
here is Tron, meaning the original Tron, I imagine, not
Tron legacy. Yeah, Tron. I fully agree Tron. I love Tron,
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and it came out when I was a kid, and
I thought that movie was absolutely spectacular, But as a kid,
I wasn't really following the story so much. I just
thought the visuals were really really cool. As an adult
watching that movie, I'm like, holy cow, there's a lot
of dead time this movie. This movie has got got
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long maretches where nothing interesting is happening, even in the
weird setting that the movie takes place in, which is,
you know, uh, the inside a computer. Um. But yeah,
Tron is one of those where I would say, like
getting someone a younger person who never experienced it to
watch it, they would probably be bored to tears because
the effects are no longer groundbreaking, so that part is
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not going to get them. And the story is a
little plotting, so I think that one falls in there.
I think Dark Crystal, as much as it hurts me
to say that, also kind of falls into it. That's
kind of a methodically paced movie. Yeah. Um. Tenth Kingdom
was one that I swear was amazing and I went
back to watch it the other weekend. I still love it,
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but trying to show it to anybody else is a
little embarrassing. Which is a mini series that actually Hallmark did,
I didn't know at the time. Yeah, um, you know.
And then there's some that have aged better than I
thought big. I thought for sure it have a big
Gooonies effect. Yeah. Well, also BI also has one very
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problematic scene, but it does. It hasn't aged super well,
but it aged well enough to get a Broadway musical.
That's yeah. Yeah. And some movies I think still can
resonate with people. I think it just depends on their sensibilities. Um.
But others I think really are hard to to get
people hooked on. Like there are movies from my childhood
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that I know are very difficult to um to connect
to younger audiences. In fact, I've done the whole series
of videos and with with Shay called Age of Cinema,
where we would introduce films to each other. So she
would show me movies that she had seen that I
had not and tried to explain why they were important
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to her and see what I got out of them.
And I've done the same with her, and uh, it
is very interesting to see the results of that on
both sides, because we have no is this effect in
both ways, and we are largely picking movies that we
first encountered as as you know, a kid, that have
become important parts of kind of our cultural touchstone. So
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it's pretty interesting to see how this disconnect can happen. Yeah,
I mean even recently so, I just watched Elf for
the first time this holiday season, and I'm I wasn't
a huge fan. I can see why people would like it,
especially if they were introduced to it when it first
came out, when you either had very sarcastic Christmas movies
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or you had very saccering Christmas movies, but you didn't
have something kind of bridging that gap. And I feel
like a lot of our media now plays more on
on the cheekiness than did when Elf first came out.
So I think I just missed the gap on that one. Yeah, yeah,
there there. I'm sure there are plenty of movies that
our listeners can here think of that are are falling
into this category too. About these are these are movies
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that I think are They're not necessarily timely in the
sense of their references having been tied to a specific
time period or their jokes being reliant upon that, Like
this isn't the types of movies where they're constantly making
pop culture references and that dates the movie. But they
are timely in the sense that the sensibility of the film,
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the perhaps the production value of the movie, these are
the things that really anchor it to the time period
when it came out, and they they failed to become
evergreen or timeless. So there's some movies that I think
do become timeless, that you know, generations can enjoy despite
the fact that they might be many years removed from
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the origin of that film. But these are more movies
that are you know, you kind of had to be
at the right place at the right time to see
them for them to really have an effect, which is
it hurts. It hurts my heart because they means so
much to me and they mean so little to under
I understand that. But at the same time, there's so
many things that my younger friends really love that just
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the appeal completely escapes me. And I realized that I'm
just the old man yelling at a cloud. That's that's
who I've become. Well, speaking of yelling at clouds, we've
got to really I think going to be fun mash
up for you. But first let's take a quick break, Okay, Ariel,
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So you are the mastermind of picking mash ups. So
we've mentioned one of the two properties that we're going
to mash up today, that being the Goonies. We wanted
to take that as a starting point. What was the
other property, uh, Guardians of the Galaxy. And I picked
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Guardians of the Galaxy for two reasons. One because Peter Quill,
who's the main character of regarding the Galaxy, really loves
nostalgic things from the eighties, so yeah, and late seventies,
in late seventies, so like Goonies would be his saying.
Actually Goonies came out after he was abducted, but whatever.
U And Two because it's got a group of friends
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that go on adventures together that um have some a
few Solalaabic speaking members. Yes, yeah, yeah, Okay, Well this
is already making me worry that my version is going
to be very close to yours. So once again I
ask you Arie, do you want to go first or
do you want to go second? Um, I'll go first,
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all right, all right, let's see if this is the
week that we old line. All right, it's twenty years
after the events of the first Goonies, So the Gloony
Goonies plus Sloth I'll reconnect in the goon docks. Feeling
like their lives have been blanned ever since their adventures
where they found my Willie's treasure and saved their town.
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They gather in the Welsh's old family attic, and that's
where they find it, a second treasure map belonging to
one Eyed Willie. When they remove it from the floorboards
because they found it in the floorboards of the attic,
high pitch sound emits from the item. That's weird, but
you know, these kids love weird, so whatever, they just
shrug it off. They're not even kids anymore. These adults
just shrug it off. And they decide to follow the
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map to its treasure for old time's sake. They go
through all the booby traps like before, and while they
anticipate them more, they're also much bigger and so this
time it's a It's still a difficult journey, but eventually
they reached the cavern that holds One Eyed Willie's second ship.
Just as they entered the cavern, so does a set
of Ravagers. Turns out, the treasure map, once removed from
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the attic, set off a beacon to willie ship, a
spaceship man Willie got around. You see, One Eyed Willie
was the ancestor of Worker, a member of the Yondu
Ravager clan who had been searched for his ancestral treasure
to buy off the rest of the Ravager team and
overthrow Yon. Do if you don't remember who Worker is,
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he's the one whose eye got stolen because he only
actually is one eye. Uh. The Goonies plus Sloth and
the Ravagers face off. Don't worry, it's not an unfair
fight because the Ravagers, being Ravagers, lost all of their
weapons in the attempt to make it through the booby traps. Also,
the Gooneys learned that the Ravagers can't swim, and once
they knock Worker into the water and realize that the
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rest of the Ravagers get knocked in right behind. Unfortunately,
all the scuffle caused the cavern exits to collapse and
the only way out is for the Goonies to try
to use the spaceship. With enough button mashing, they get
sent out into space and that's where this mashup ends,
except for there is a post credit scene with them
docking with Peter quill Ship and Sloth and Groot having
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a conversation in the foreground. I am Groot, Sloth love Groot.
The end Well, I can tell you that our versions
are not the same. So now sit back, relax and
enjoy Goonies of the Galaxy. It's and Mikey Walsh and
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his friends are in a pickle. Seems that a local
country club is dead set on kicking them all out
of house and home, having bought up the mortgages to
their parents homes and preparing to foreclose on all of
them unless the parents should I don't know, happen to
find some sort of magnificent treasure or something. As Mikey
and his buddy's data Chunk and Mouth commiserate over the
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fact that they will soon be forced to move. A
bright light shines down from the skies above. It's a
spaceship called the Inferno, captain by a blue mohawk alien
dude with an eye patch one eyed yawn due yon
dude captures the boys and brings them aboard his ship,
flying off into the night. The kids only have the
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stuff that was on them at the time, which thankfully
includes a killer mixed tape of early eighties songs. Cyndi
Lauper is on there a lot. Two decades later, we
see the four friends on a distant planet. They are
no longer with one eyed yon du Instead, they've become
intergalactic ne'er do wells. Data is a cyborg, now with
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about half his body replaced by various robotic limbs and gadgets,
including slick shoes, which his friends tell him is crazy.
Mouth is the fast talking con man of the group,
skilled at social manipulation, or at least irritating people so
that they're distracted. Chunk is now Hunk, having grown out
of his chubby phase and packed on some serious muscle,
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and Mikey is still Mikey. The leader of the gang,
the Voice of Reason, and the Eternal Optimist. The four
friends find a mysterious book that has a coded message
inside it telling them of a fabled treasure. It's an
ORB on a seemingly deserted planet, guarded by various booby
traps and puzzles. One by one, the group solves the
puzzles blocking their way. The team retrieves the orb, which
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sets off one eyed yon Du who's also after it,
and the minions of a cree named Ronan, the Destroyer.
The four attempt to evade being captured and moreover, losing
the ORB as they traverse the galaxy. Before long, they
find themselves teamed up with four other odd folks. One
is Gamurra, former minion of the powerful alien Thanos. One
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is Drax, a literal minded alien intent on getting revenge
on Ronan. One is Rocket, a raccoon like creature who
can talk, and the fourth is Sloth. Rockets dearest friend,
who can only communicate with I am Sloth, but Rocket
understands them. Together, they must try to prevent Ronan and
his henchman, the Fratellis, from getting hold of the orb,
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which actually holds the power stone in the end, Good
triumphs over Evil, and Cindy Lauper sings us out and
we're left to wonder, Hey, why didn't those kids ever
bother to go back to Earth and see how folks
were doing. Oh, also, Hunk teaches Drax how to do
the truffle shuffle the end. My hat off to you, Jonathan.
That was amazing, And that was a mashup. Mine was
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more of a sequel. So well, I I started with
the what if what if Groot was Sloth. I'm like,
I realized, I'm removing potentially the most beloved character run
the Guardians of the Galaxy series, But then I thought
that's exactly what I would do anyway, because I'm kind
of a jerk face. Well, Sloth was also very lovable,
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and for what it's worth, I did name mine Goonies
of the Galaxy. I almost named it Guardians of the
goon Docks, but I was waiting to hear. I was
waiting to hear what you named yours, and I was
either going to go I was gonna go the other way.
I was either going to be Goonies of the Galaxy
or Guardians of the Goonies. So either way it would
have I would have gone with it, but since you
didn't name yours at the top, I was like, all right,
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I'm safe here. But that was that was our take
on a mashup of what it would look like if
you mixed the Goonies with the Guardians of the Galaxy.
And we're curious if you guys have any thoughts on
what such a mashup would look like. Would it be
similar to what we did, or would you go a
totally different direction. If you have any ideas on that
or maybe other mashups you would like us to do
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in the future, let us know or even you know,
like topics we should discuss in future episodes of Fallacy.
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what movies you think you love that have a Goonies effect. Yeah,
I might watch it. Yeah, that that that'd be good
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Heart Radio. Hey everybody, welcome to the Large Nerdron Collider Podcast,
the podcast that's all about the geeky things happening in
the world around us and how very excited we are
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about them. I am Ariel casting and with me as
always is super amazing, sometimes wistful. Jonathan Strickland For a moment, Ariel,
I thought you were going to say, I'm sometimes super amazing. Ariel.
I've got a question for you. So, Ariel, you are
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a fan of the Star Trek. Correct, I am a
fan of the star That wasn't your question. That was
just the It was an easy one. This could still
be an easy one. So my question for you is,
if you were a crew member on the Starship Enterprise,
which department or position would you work in? So, would
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you be part of engineering, would you be part of
the bridge crew? If so, which position would you be in?
Science or security or tactical? What would you what would
you do? And for the for the purposes of clarity,
we're looking at Star Trek next generation era. Okay, that's
that's good because you know it automatic your question automatically
(01:38):
took out Deep Space nine, which is my favorite of them.
Uh so I would be I think i'd be in
in the education department. I would be the one teaching
the kids on the Enterprise croovy awesome. Yeah, because that's
something that obviously would not apply in the original series,
because the original Enterprise didn't have families aboard the way
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Next Generation did. It's a great answer, thank you. If
if it were original series, I think I would be
in science. I wanna want to do the science e things. Yeah,
you look good in blue. Thank you? What would you do? Oh?
Thank you for asking Next Generation. I'm a lounge singer
and ten forward. You know what that's that's pretty fantastic.
(02:26):
I'm a little sad I didn't say that. Well, I
have the benefit of thinking up the questions, so you're
always a disadvantage. But yes, it's time for us to
launch into one Happy New Year aerial. Happy New Year, gentleman,
and we thought we would start off by talking about
how if we did anything geeky at the beginning of one.
(02:50):
I kind of have an answer for this, but I'm
curious what you did. Uh well, I threw aside all
of my New Year's resolutions to get in shape and
be more active and be more productive. And I spent
the entire first day of one binge watching the third
season of Cobra Kai and it was pretty fantastic. So
(03:11):
you are not that I'm going to drop any spoilers
here because there may be people who have not watched
it yet, but you got to see the the return
of a character from the Karate Kid franchise who had
been hinted at previously. I take it. Yes, yes, there
there were many many moments that had me happy, that
(03:33):
had me crying, that had me yelling you at my
TV screen. It was really fantastic. That's awesome. Well, I
didn't really do much of anything on New Year's Day.
I'm not I'm not, to be very perfectly honest, I'm
not big on celebrating New Year's even on years when
I can go out of the house. But I will
(03:54):
say that yesterday as of when we're recording this, we're
recording this on Monday night, so it's January four where
we are. On January three, I watched the first episode
of the Watch, the BBC series that is loosely inspired
by the Terry Pratchett Discworld novels, and even going into
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it knowing that there was a huge gap between the
source material and this adaptation or this series. Even going
into it knowing that, I was like, I don't even
I don't even know why they bothered because I think
this will be a discussion topic for a future episode
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of ellen c. But there comes a point I think
when you're working with source material, when you get far
enough away from it that it just leads to questions like,
why did you even bother being associated with the source
material if you're going to be this far away from it. Yeah.
I think sometimes people decide to make h a movie
(05:02):
or a television show because they love a property, but
their idea is just inspired by Yeah. Well, I described it.
I described it to people on Twitter. I said it
was as if someone had skimmed the Discworld books and
then badly described them to somebody else who happened to
be a big fan of train Spotting, and that person
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went and made the series because there is a very
kind of punk rock train spotting element to the series
that is not something that's inherent in the books. But
you know, to teach their own I'm not saying it's
a bad series, by the way. I'm saying I didn't
like it because I really love the source material, and
I just felt that it was so far from that
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source material that it was more distracting than anything else.
I couldn't even think of it as being like, this
is a fun alternate universe take on it. To me,
it was just like, what's the point? So anyway, But
we'll get into more of that in a future episode
of Ellency. Not specifically that example necessarily, but this this
trend of adaptations or reboots that are only tangentially based
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on the source material. But for today, we've got some
other news to cover. Hey there, it's Jonathan from the future.
I'm interrupting this episode of Large Nergron Colleator because our
first topic that we covered in this episode was on
a news story that was since proven to be false,
(06:33):
and so why needed to remove it before this episode aired?
And that means that we have an odd transition into
what would have been our second story, but now is
our first story because that's how time travel works. Thank
you for coming on this time travel adventure with me.
Let's rejoin the show already in progress. The next thing
(06:54):
we want to talk about is Superman and lois the
new CW show uh Is has a trailer, Yeah, more
of a teaser, but yeah, more it's a it's a teaser.
It you know, it came out right around the New Year,
and it's not surprising. We knew the show was coming up.
We knew that a bunch of other CW superhero shows
were ending. You know. I think it's good of them
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too and shows before they've been on too long and
give us new things. I really like uh Superman and
Lois as they were depicted in Supergirl. So from my
viewing of them in Supergirl, I was excited about this series,
but the teaser didn't really spark my interest the same
(07:38):
way the news about the show did. Interesting. Now, I
never watched Supergirl, so full disclosure, there are we talking
about the same actors playing Superman and Lois in this
series as from Supergirl? Yes? Okay? And and in the
Supergirl series, are they already parents? You know, I don't know.
(08:01):
I think that they because I think that they became
children or they became parents in Crisis on Infinite Earth,
which full disclosure, I'm still working my way through. But
in the new series they are. They have moved back
to Smallville, they have two sons um who I believe
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our teenagers, at least that's the way they look in
the teaser. And so the teaser kind of just touches
on the fact that there are these the story is
going to really revolve around Superman and his family. To me,
it raises a lot of questions like how alien and
humans have interoperable DNA. But you know, hey, listen, the
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comics already play with that loose and fast, so the
TV show show doing it is nothing new. I will
say that when we watched the trailer, it didn't it
was very different from any other sort of trailer for
c W superhero shows that have seen. It almost looked
like an animated comic. Um. And the interesting thing about
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it is they show a lot of like the crystalline
world that you know, the Phantom zone. They showed the
Phantom zone in this in Crystals in the original Superman movie. Um.
But there is a story in Infinite Crisis where, uh,
Superman and super Boy and all these people end up
(09:31):
being bad guys because Luther is trying to create their
own universe and they escape this crystalline world and then
end up killing a bunch of people. Uh, And it's
actually a part of that ties into wonder Woman eighty
four with uh, wonder Woman and Max Lord. As we
saw at the end of the Wonder Woman movie that
just came out on Woman A four being repetitive. Everybody
(09:53):
sorry w W two because that would be confusing, That
would be confusing. But that storyline, even though you know,
I don't want to spoil it for anybody who hasn't
seen it, isn't exactly as it goes in the comics,
is something that ties into that story where Superman is
a bad guy and it kind of looks like that
(10:15):
in the trailer. Now again, I don't necessarily think they
will do that, but it was an interesting parallel considering
the release of both um pieces of media. Well, I
am so far unenthused by this, But then also to
be fair, like I said, I haven't been following any
(10:35):
of the d C television series, so arguably this is
more because I haven't gone to the trouble of finding
those and watching them, rather than a comment on the
concept of the show itself. I just feel like this
is something that has passed me by, and I'm okay
with that. I need to watch more Legends of Tomorrow
(10:59):
that's one that hit me poorly at the beginning and
then apparently got really good. Our next story is about
another trailer, this one for Evangelion or Evan Gillian if
you prefer three point oh plus one point oh, which
why But anyway, it's the fourth film. I guess that's
(11:19):
why because it's the fourth film in the trilogy. But
it's the fourth film that is set in this universe
and is to conclude the Evangelian storylines, which if you
are not familiar, it's an anime series that is all
about these young kids or teenagers who are linked to
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giant mix so very common kind of thread in in
Japanese animation, uh, that are battling against angels, these creatures
called angels that are threatening to destroy the world. And
this one is supposed to kind of wrap things up.
The series of Angelian had a pretty definitive ending, but
(12:05):
it was also an ending that a lot of people
just did not like, so it ended up being kind
of red cond It was very very confusing. Yeah, a lot,
I think a lot got lost in translation h between
the original story and the American translation of it. So yeah,
so this new one is is a very different ending
and kind of takes all of the MEC pilots to
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new storylines and new adventures. And yeah, they all of
them have been like while concluding, all of them have
been like one point one, two point two, three point
three three. So yeah, I don't know why they're doing
the weird naming convention, but um, I'm excited for it.
I watched the entire series. I own all of the
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videos up to this point. Um so well, And this
is a series that has gained a lot of credit
for doing things like like reinvigorating anime in Japan and
also adding a new interpretation of the Mecca type of
animation or the Meca type of trope in Japanese animation,
which had kind of run the whole length of where
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it could go using the more traditional approach. I mean,
I think of everything from um, you know, like, uh,
look at the sort of battle tech type stuff that
you can look at. Um Uh. Gigant Or I knew
I could think of. I knew if I thought hard
enough it would come up to me. But gigant Or
a classic old anime. Gigantoor is a great big robot
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um and he's controlled by a little kid. It's a
common theme in Japan Japanese animation, so it'll be good
to have this series have a send off. It will
I'm I'm looking forward to it. Along the line of robots,
I want to say, another thing that I discovered over
the New Year's holiday was the video of Boston Dynamics
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having all of their robots dance to do You Love Me.
So we're going from kind of robot with souls being
piloted by kids too, just AI robots piloting themselves. Yeah,
these were robots obviously, that were programmed to do a
choreographed routine. It's not like they had AI. Yes they were, Yes,
(14:24):
serial they were. They were not using AI to just
find the group. And you know how I can tell
because when you get to the mashed Potato and I
can do the twist and all those songs, they actually
do the appropriate dance moves for those dances. So yes,
it's very cute. I'm sure that most of you have
probably seen it. It went viral, but in case you haven't,
(14:46):
make sure you search Boston Dynamics Dancing Robots. It is adorable.
I am you know, it is adorable, and it took
all of these robots that were really cool but kind
of creepy. It made them lovable to me. S yes,
I agree. All right, Well, let's let's have our wrap up,
our final news item for this segment, I'm calling the audible.
(15:10):
Let's talk about the incredible journey of rhetta Twi the
TikTok Musical. Yes, so, a bunch of people on TikTok
decided they wanted to kind of put together this Foe
da Ti musical and then it became a real thing.
(15:31):
This is crazy aerial because it started off as one
person creating a song and then someone else orchestrating that
song as if it were a true Broadway musical, and
then other people just leapt in and started to contribute
stuff like a playbill and costume design and things like this.
And then yeah, ce View Productions announced they were producing
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the show in association with TikTok. Disney gave its blessing,
and a whole bunch of celebrity has jumped into perform
in it. You know, Titus Burgess, Wayne Brady, Andre de Shields,
who was he was Hermes in Hadestown and he played
he played the critic um and read it to it. Yeah,
it's it's fascinating to me. The most fascinating part of this,
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I mean, apart from the fact that it grew organically
as a true meme as people began to contribute to it.
The other part that I think is fascinating is that
Disney said, okay, because that company is notoriously protective of
their intellectual property. Yeah, yeah, it's It's pretty fantastic. It's
very uplifting. Uh. They sold more than a million dollars
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in tickets, which all went to the Actors Fund to
help all of these Broadway performers who aren't currently working. Yeah,
you may not be able to watch it. They're saying
it's it's only available till January four at seven pm,
which is the day we're recording this, So we're talking
about it two days late to you. But um, I'm
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hopeful that they will put it back out on the
internet or you can at least catch clips of this
if you haven't already. My hope is that there will
be a video on demand thing where you can continue
to make like a contribution to the Actors Fund and
be able to see it. But that all depends upon
you know, there there may actually be agreements in place
that with Disney that says that this was a one
and one time only thing. I don't know, but that
(17:23):
wraps up our news for the beginning of one. And
when we come back, we're gonna have a deeper dive
discussion about something that Aerial calls the Goonies effect, but
that will be after this break, all right, So let's
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talk about the Goonies effect? Ariel, what is the Goonies effect?
You coined this phrase. I did not coin this phrase.
My friends coins this phrase, but it makes a lot
of sense to me. So they's effect is when you've
got a movie that you watched as a kid a
teenager and you absolutely loved it, just like the transformational
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movie to you, and then you show it to a
friend who didn't watch it when the movie came out,
who didn't watch it at a pivotal time in their life,
and to them, it's just okay, or even worse, or
even worse, or it's a bad movie. So one of
the movies I hear this most often about is Goonies.
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If you if you watched Goonies when you were a
kid or a teenager, you probably really liked it. And
then if you watched it as an adult, it may
not have hit home for you because you're just not
in that period of your life anymore. It may it
may feel like it's just a bunch of kids constantly screaming,
because that's kind of what that movie is. And I
say that as someone who actually enjoyed it because I
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was a kid when that movie came out. The movie
came out, So I was ten when the movie came out,
and uh yeah, I was the right age for that
to really hit home, and I enjoyed it, and um yeah,
as an adult, I can recognize, like I still can
watch it and enjoy it because I still have that
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that nostalgic link to it, but I also can recognize
that it's not necessarily the best film in the world.
So so our friend shay Lee, Uh, she is someone
who does not like the Goonies, and she's told me,
she's like, I've tried, I've tried watching it. I don't
like it. But she's younger than both of us, and
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she didn't grow up with that movie and it didn't
come out at a time where it would have kind
of latched onto her. So I've definitely experienced this. I
think it can go the other way too. There can
be movies that are pivotal for younger generations that just
don't resonate with older ones. So for example, like I
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know a lot of people who were about maybe five
to ten years younger than I am, who really likes
sand Lot, I couldn't care less. Or as going back
to our friend, say, she loves the movie hocus Pocus,
and I know a lot of my friends who are
of her age or even your age Aeriel, which is
not that much older than she. I want to be clear,
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Ariel is younger than I am, but older than Shay.
But but like people in in that age group tend
to really like that movie, and again it does nothing
for me. Yeah, I would agree. Hocus Pocus is one
I didn't watch until i'd say the last five years,
and it was cute, but it wasn't the end, I'll
be all to me. And I think maybe that's because
other movies have done that concept better since that time,
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and that's what I was introduced to. You know, for me,
I think my biggest, my favorite Goonies effect movie is
not the third Star Wars movie, as much as I
love E Walks, because that's another big one. If you know,
there's a big ag app on whether you like e
walks or not theory. Um, but Flight to the Navigator interesting, Yeah,
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the one that it's a story about a young boy
befriending and artificially intelligent spaceship. Spaceship voiced by pee Wee Herman. Yes,
and it's got Sarah Jessica Parker in it. And to me,
this this movie was like the best sci fi movie.
It's it's what took sci fi and made it relatable
to me. And I loved it and I still love it.
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And whenever I try to introduce somebody to it now
it's hard to even get them to agree to sit
through the entire thing because they look at it and say,
why do I want to watch a kid's sci fi
from the eighties and nineties with bad special effects? Now,
I don't think these special effects are that bad. They
used a lot of puppets, but yeah, and they had
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some like c g I stuff too. The spaceship could
change shape and it was a c G I but
it was very shiny, like chrome like space ship that
was able to you know, because there wasn't a lot
of detail there. It was more like shapes and angles
that it worked out pretty well. Yeah, And a lot
of the movies that that you have listed on our
little list here feels like, uh like. Part of this
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is also in pacing, because a lot of the movies
from say, when we were kids had a slightly more
methodical pace to them. They were slower paced, and some
of them are even slow paced for the movies of
their day. Like one of the movies you have listed
here is Tron, meaning the original Tron, I imagine, not
Tron legacy. Yeah, Tron. I fully agree Tron. I love Tron,
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and it came out when I was a kid, and
I thought that movie was absolutely spectacular, But as a kid,
I wasn't really following the story so much. I just
thought the visuals were really really cool. As an adult
watching that movie, I'm like, holy cow, there's a lot
of dead time this movie. This movie has got got
(22:59):
long maretches where nothing interesting is happening, even in the
weird setting that the movie takes place in, which is,
you know, uh, the inside a computer. Um. But yeah,
Tron is one of those where I would say, like
getting someone a younger person who never experienced it to
watch it, they would probably be bored to tears because
the effects are no longer groundbreaking, so that part is
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not going to get them. And the story is a
little plotting, so I think that one falls in there.
I think Dark Crystal, as much as it hurts me
to say that, also kind of falls into it. That's
kind of a methodically paced movie. Yeah. Um. Tenth Kingdom
was one that I swear was amazing and I went
back to watch it the other weekend. I still love it,
(23:44):
but trying to show it to anybody else is a
little embarrassing. Which is a mini series that actually Hallmark did,
I didn't know at the time. Yeah, um, you know.
And then there's some that have aged better than I
thought big. I thought for sure it have a big
Gooonies effect. Yeah. Well, also BI also has one very
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problematic scene, but it does. It hasn't aged super well,
but it aged well enough to get a Broadway musical.
That's yeah. Yeah. And some movies I think still can
resonate with people. I think it just depends on their sensibilities. Um.
But others I think really are hard to to get
people hooked on. Like there are movies from my childhood
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that I know are very difficult to um to connect
to younger audiences. In fact, I've done the whole series
of videos and with with Shay called Age of Cinema,
where we would introduce films to each other. So she
would show me movies that she had seen that I
had not and tried to explain why they were important
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to her and see what I got out of them.
And I've done the same with her, and uh, it
is very interesting to see the results of that on
both sides, because we have no is this effect in
both ways, and we are largely picking movies that we
first encountered as as you know, a kid, that have
become important parts of kind of our cultural touchstone. So
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it's pretty interesting to see how this disconnect can happen. Yeah,
I mean even recently so, I just watched Elf for
the first time this holiday season, and I'm I wasn't
a huge fan. I can see why people would like it,
especially if they were introduced to it when it first
came out, when you either had very sarcastic Christmas movies
(25:35):
or you had very saccering Christmas movies, but you didn't
have something kind of bridging that gap. And I feel
like a lot of our media now plays more on
on the cheekiness than did when Elf first came out.
So I think I just missed the gap on that one. Yeah, yeah,
there there. I'm sure there are plenty of movies that
our listeners can here think of that are are falling
into this category too. About these are these are movies
(25:58):
that I think are They're not necessarily timely in the
sense of their references having been tied to a specific
time period or their jokes being reliant upon that, Like
this isn't the types of movies where they're constantly making
pop culture references and that dates the movie. But they
are timely in the sense that the sensibility of the film,
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the perhaps the production value of the movie, these are
the things that really anchor it to the time period
when it came out, and they they failed to become
evergreen or timeless. So there's some movies that I think
do become timeless, that you know, generations can enjoy despite
the fact that they might be many years removed from
(26:43):
the origin of that film. But these are more movies
that are you know, you kind of had to be
at the right place at the right time to see
them for them to really have an effect, which is
it hurts. It hurts my heart because they means so
much to me and they mean so little to under
I understand that. But at the same time, there's so
many things that my younger friends really love that just
(27:06):
the appeal completely escapes me. And I realized that I'm
just the old man yelling at a cloud. That's that's
who I've become. Well, speaking of yelling at clouds, we've
got to really I think going to be fun mash
up for you. But first let's take a quick break, Okay, Ariel,
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So you are the mastermind of picking mash ups. So
we've mentioned one of the two properties that we're going
to mash up today, that being the Goonies. We wanted
to take that as a starting point. What was the
other property, uh, Guardians of the Galaxy. And I picked
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Guardians of the Galaxy for two reasons. One because Peter Quill,
who's the main character of regarding the Galaxy, really loves
nostalgic things from the eighties, so yeah, and late seventies,
in late seventies, so like Goonies would be his saying.
Actually Goonies came out after he was abducted, but whatever.
U And Two because it's got a group of friends
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that go on adventures together that um have some a
few Solalaabic speaking members. Yes, yeah, yeah, Okay, Well this
is already making me worry that my version is going
to be very close to yours. So once again I
ask you Arie, do you want to go first or
do you want to go second? Um, I'll go first,
(28:41):
all right, all right, let's see if this is the
week that we old line. All right, it's twenty years
after the events of the first Goonies, So the Gloony
Goonies plus Sloth I'll reconnect in the goon docks. Feeling
like their lives have been blanned ever since their adventures
where they found my Willie's treasure and saved their town.
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They gather in the Welsh's old family attic, and that's
where they find it, a second treasure map belonging to
one Eyed Willie. When they remove it from the floorboards
because they found it in the floorboards of the attic,
high pitch sound emits from the item. That's weird, but
you know, these kids love weird, so whatever, they just
shrug it off. They're not even kids anymore. These adults
just shrug it off. And they decide to follow the
(29:26):
map to its treasure for old time's sake. They go
through all the booby traps like before, and while they
anticipate them more, they're also much bigger and so this
time it's a It's still a difficult journey, but eventually
they reached the cavern that holds One Eyed Willie's second ship.
Just as they entered the cavern, so does a set
of Ravagers. Turns out, the treasure map, once removed from
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the attic, set off a beacon to willie ship, a
spaceship man Willie got around. You see, One Eyed Willie
was the ancestor of Worker, a member of the Yondu
Ravager clan who had been searched for his ancestral treasure
to buy off the rest of the Ravager team and
overthrow Yon. Do if you don't remember who Worker is,
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he's the one whose eye got stolen because he only
actually is one eye. Uh. The Goonies plus Sloth and
the Ravagers face off. Don't worry, it's not an unfair
fight because the Ravagers, being Ravagers, lost all of their
weapons in the attempt to make it through the booby traps. Also,
the Gooneys learned that the Ravagers can't swim, and once
they knock Worker into the water and realize that the
(30:27):
rest of the Ravagers get knocked in right behind. Unfortunately,
all the scuffle caused the cavern exits to collapse and
the only way out is for the Goonies to try
to use the spaceship. With enough button mashing, they get
sent out into space and that's where this mashup ends,
except for there is a post credit scene with them
docking with Peter quill Ship and Sloth and Groot having
(30:50):
a conversation in the foreground. I am Groot, Sloth love Groot.
The end Well, I can tell you that our versions
are not the same. So now sit back, relax and
enjoy Goonies of the Galaxy. It's and Mikey Walsh and
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his friends are in a pickle. Seems that a local
country club is dead set on kicking them all out
of house and home, having bought up the mortgages to
their parents homes and preparing to foreclose on all of
them unless the parents should I don't know, happen to
find some sort of magnificent treasure or something. As Mikey
and his buddy's data Chunk and Mouth commiserate over the
(31:33):
fact that they will soon be forced to move. A
bright light shines down from the skies above. It's a
spaceship called the Inferno, captain by a blue mohawk alien
dude with an eye patch one eyed yawn due yon
dude captures the boys and brings them aboard his ship,
flying off into the night. The kids only have the
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stuff that was on them at the time, which thankfully
includes a killer mixed tape of early eighties songs. Cyndi
Lauper is on there a lot. Two decades later, we
see the four friends on a distant planet. They are
no longer with one eyed yon du Instead, they've become
intergalactic ne'er do wells. Data is a cyborg, now with
(32:14):
about half his body replaced by various robotic limbs and gadgets,
including slick shoes, which his friends tell him is crazy.
Mouth is the fast talking con man of the group,
skilled at social manipulation, or at least irritating people so
that they're distracted. Chunk is now Hunk, having grown out
of his chubby phase and packed on some serious muscle,
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and Mikey is still Mikey. The leader of the gang,
the Voice of Reason, and the Eternal Optimist. The four
friends find a mysterious book that has a coded message
inside it telling them of a fabled treasure. It's an
ORB on a seemingly deserted planet, guarded by various booby
traps and puzzles. One by one, the group solves the
puzzles blocking their way. The team retrieves the orb, which
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sets off one eyed yon Du who's also after it,
and the minions of a cree named Ronan, the Destroyer.
The four attempt to evade being captured and moreover, losing
the ORB as they traverse the galaxy. Before long, they
find themselves teamed up with four other odd folks. One
is Gamurra, former minion of the powerful alien Thanos. One
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is Drax, a literal minded alien intent on getting revenge
on Ronan. One is Rocket, a raccoon like creature who
can talk, and the fourth is Sloth. Rockets dearest friend,
who can only communicate with I am Sloth, but Rocket
understands them. Together, they must try to prevent Ronan and
his henchman, the Fratellis, from getting hold of the orb,
(33:43):
which actually holds the power stone in the end, Good
triumphs over Evil, and Cindy Lauper sings us out and
we're left to wonder, Hey, why didn't those kids ever
bother to go back to Earth and see how folks
were doing. Oh, also, Hunk teaches Drax how to do
the truffle shuffle the end. My hat off to you, Jonathan.
That was amazing, And that was a mashup. Mine was
(34:05):
more of a sequel. So well, I I started with
the what if what if Groot was Sloth. I'm like,
I realized, I'm removing potentially the most beloved character run
the Guardians of the Galaxy series, But then I thought
that's exactly what I would do anyway, because I'm kind
of a jerk face. Well, Sloth was also very lovable,
(34:29):
and for what it's worth, I did name mine Goonies
of the Galaxy. I almost named it Guardians of the
goon Docks, but I was waiting to hear. I was
waiting to hear what you named yours, and I was
either going to go I was gonna go the other way.
I was either going to be Goonies of the Galaxy
or Guardians of the Goonies. So either way it would
have I would have gone with it, but since you
didn't name yours at the top, I was like, all right,
(34:50):
I'm safe here. But that was that was our take
on a mashup of what it would look like if
you mixed the Goonies with the Guardians of the Galaxy.
And we're curious if you guys have any thoughts on
what such a mashup would look like. Would it be
similar to what we did, or would you go a
totally different direction. If you have any ideas on that
or maybe other mashups you would like us to do
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in the future, let us know or even you know,
like topics we should discuss in future episodes of Fallacy.
Where can they reach out to us arial Well, you
can reach out to us on Twitter at ll n
C Underscore podcast, or on Instagram or Facebook at large
or drunkal Lider, send us a d M, send us
a message. If we like it, we'll read it on
the air, you know, or you can even tell us
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what movies you think you love that have a Goonies effect. Yeah,
I might watch it. Yeah, that that that'd be good
to hear. And also, don't forget if you enjoyed this episode,
make sure you leave us a review. Recommend us to
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we would greatly appreciate it, and until next time. I
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have been Jonathan Strickland and I am Ariel castin m
h m h m hm hm. The Large New Drunk
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