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Speaker 1 (00:07):
The Large nerd Drunk Collider Podcast is a production of
My Heart Radio. Hey everybody, welcome to the Large nor
Drunk Collider Podcast, the podcast that's all about the geeky
things happening in the world around us and how very
excited we are about them. I'm Ariel casting and with
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me as always though not on our usual day, is
Jonathan Strickland. I have to catch them all you do,
So that's a little that's a little peek until later
on because Pokemon our in our mashup. But we also
feel that way about the news stories this week. There's
a ton of them, and that's saying something. We're recording
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this on Monday because of reasons, and so yeah, we
normally record on Tuesday nights, so we're recording on Monday afternoon,
which means that by the time this episode goes out
on Thursday, there will be more news. But yeah, we've
reached a point where news is hitting like crazy level.
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So we once again have two segments of news to
bring to you, dear listeners. But before we get to
any of that, Arial m I have a question for you. Okay,
here is your question. Arial, what weapon in fantasy or
science fiction would you most want to get hold of
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Great Acts. So not a not a specific weapon, just
a Great Acts because that's like an actual weapon that
you could get. I'm like saying, like a fantasy or
science fiction weapon, like something that does not really exist.
You didn't say doesn't really exist. You just said any weapon,
and like, okay, So I I larned for a while.
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My favorite LARP character ever was a Barbarian and I
had this giant boffer Great Acts that I called your
Mom and uh it was a bad joke that just
never went away. Um, and it was my favorite thing
ever to swing around. So I'd like a real Great Acts, Okay,
But if it were an imaginary yeah, like something that's
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actually I mean, okay, Great Acts is the your go
to weapon in the real world, but yeah, any any
sort of fantasy or science fiction weapon that does not
necessarily actually exist. Um, you know, I'd say the Sword
in the Stone, not because I want to be the
King of England, but because I want to have the
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bragging rights. What about you? Okay, I'm not gonna lie.
My choice was Excalibur, so very similar because the Sword
in the Stone and Excalibur are not always the same sword.
It all depends on which Marthurian legend you're looking at.
Excalibur sometimes is the one that is given by the
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lady in the lake to Arthur. Uh, and the Sword
in the Stone is a different sword, then that's the one.
Whomever shall holp pull the sword from the stone shall
be king of all England. So but it is funny
because I literally was like Excalibur and then you said
that went well, I guess we're on the same page. No,
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it's not a bad thing. It's not a bad thing.
It just I worry about our mash up. Now, Like
I said, I don't well, truth, I don't want to
fight you to be the king of England. So I
will just go to my backup imaginary weapon since a
great acts wasn't good enough and you've already claimed Excalibur,
and I'll just say I want mume you. Okay, that's fair,
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all right, Owner, I know you might. But see, that's
the thing is that if you're not worthy, then you
just have a immovable paper weight. Look, if I'm giving
up the sword in the Stone, that means I am
worthy to carry meal there. I think it'd be hilarious
if you had the sword in the stone, but you're
not actually King of England, so you just literally have
a big rock with the sword sticking out of it.
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And I've got and I've got a wet woman holding
a weapon. Yes, yes, but but you know, here's the thing.
If I can carry meal nerd, then I can also
probably pick up the stone on top of the sword
if I can't pull it out, and just whack people
with that. Like see when I was first coming up,
when I was first coming up with the idea for
questions for this show, this is exactly the kind of
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conversation I was hoping we would have, because it's the
sort of thing, the geeky conversations that kids have with
each other, and then they have to find ways to
one up one another. But we do need to get
to the news, and our first story is a serious one.
This is this is not like a super happy, fun story,
but rather that you may have heard that the International
Alliance of Theater Stage Employees a k A Yachts not yatzi,
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but IATs that they are contemplating they're going to take
a vote on a potential union strike. Now, this particular group,
it consists of a lot of people who work behind
the scenes on stuff like the various series and movies
you find on things like streaming services. Yeah, so they're
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the people who do like the electrical and the set
building and costumes and props and and a lot of
the back end behind the scenes stuff. And their complaints
are that the streaming services typically are sidestepping regulations that
would usually be in place for things like your standard
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TV series and your standard films. For example. One of
the big ones is that you might find that you
have a late night shoot on a Friday night and
then you have a morning call on Saturday, and you
have you know, you're spending like a couple of hours
at home and you're getting all this extra time butt
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in and it's just working you to exhaustion where you're
falling over because you're you're being worked to death and
there's no real protection there. So that's what the union.
The union meeting about voting for a strike is all
about about whether or not enough people support a strike
to demand more protections. And and right now a lot
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of a lot of the other unions do so. SAG
after I was usually for Actors UM and they support it.
Frank Dresser is currently the head of that if you
don't know who she is, she played the nanny on
The Nanny Um. But you know, so actors tend to
get like a set day that's kind of a healthier
work day and then paid over time, and NATSI doesn't
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have that. For streaming services there under a new media
contract which at the time that I think those you know,
I'm not an expert on this. At the time the
contracts are written up, Netflix and all that were kind
of all new in testing the waters. But now they're like,
they're winning prime to on Emmy's. They are big competitors
for mainstream television, so it's kind of time to update
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those contracts and and those working conditions exactly. Aerial pointed
out very rightly before we started recording that you know,
these are these are services that are getting consideration and
their winning awards that put them in the same category
as these established old media companies, and they kind of
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want to have it both ways. They want to get
the consideration and the prestige of the old media companies,
but they kind of want to work in that fast
and loose way where they don't have to follow the
same rules. And that's what the Guild is specifically kind
of protesting. Will have to wait and see that they
actually vote on a strike. If they do, that will
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mean that things that are currently in production will be
on hold until that can get resolved. Now, Deadline did
have an article saying like things like HBO primetime movies
and and commercials and stuff that do not fall under
some of those more loosen fast rules that are set
to the higher standards won't fall under that. I don't
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know how reputable Deadline is. I personally hope that they
get their demands. One. You know, I'm an actor. If
a strike needs to happen, impractions need to shut down
so that people can have good working conditions, I'm fine
with it. But of course I'd always rather have the
option the ability to work. I want everybody else to
get fair treatment, so I'm for it. But also I
don't want my electrical uh professional to be who's hanging
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all the big heavy lights for a film set, to
be exhausted and sleep deprived, the big light falling on
my head. Well yeah, and I mean, like, honestly, you
just don't want anyone to be exploited and and and
treated poorly. So we wanted to lead with that because
that is something that could have a potential big impact
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on things like release dates and planned uh sequels and
stuff like. We haven't been recording since the days of
old when there was like the big writers strike where
entire seasons of shows were cut short. But this is similar, except,
of course, instead of writers were talking about, you know,
the behind the scenes cruise of these things. So we'll
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find out on Friday whether or not they vote to strike,
and then moving forward we'll learn what the results are.
Like these are these are big decisions too. I don't
want to I don't want to minimize that, Like for
any individual to make the decision to support a strike
is a big deal. But I am one behind all
those books, I mean, and everything is a big deal.
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Productions are expensive, so I get that there's back and forth.
That being said, since we're talking about new media, Netflix
has announced a bunch of stuff that's coming out. I
guess we'll see if it's in a place where it
can be released or whether it's still in production for
a lot of it. Two of notable note Jonathan and
I that's a good sentence are Cowboy Bebop and Sandman. Yeah.
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We the opening credits for Cowboy Bebop, which has a
very the opening credits have like a very kind of
nineteen sixties nineteen seventies spy movie vibe to them, complete
with like the jazzy music intro, really really creative. I
like it a lot. And then the Sandman teaser is
just you've got this collection of people who are attempting
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to summon death, but they accidentally summon her brother Dream. Yeah,
and uh yeah. It looks like it's a very quick look.
But it's based off Neil Gaiman's Sandman comic book series
that was critically acclaimed. Um, I read some of it,
but I didn't read the whole series. I haven't read
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a lot of Sandman. I have looked at a lot
of the artwork, and Dream is spot on. So killer cheekbones,
killer cheekbones. And I will say so Cowboy Bebop, I like,
I haven't watched it in a long time, so I'd
have to really fresh my brain on the story. But
it feels very Cowboy Beboppy to me, and I like
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my husband shared an article with me where they're like,
it's so hard two match the amazing nous of the
opening of the theme song for the cartoon Cowboy Beepop,
which is tank so they didn't try to come up
with something new. They used the same song as from
the cartoon. Yeah. Well, and and you know both of
those are you know, connected to Netflix. Both Sandman and
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Cowboy Beepop are Netflix exclusives. And we also have another
little thing about Netflix, and by little I mean pretty big,
that the company actually acquired the roll Doll Story Company,
a roll Doll being the author of books like Charlie
and the Chocolate Factory and Charlie and the Glass Elevator
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and Giant Peach, James and the Giant Peach. Yeah, witches.
I think he did the Witches. I believe maybe maybe
the big friendly Giant. Yeah, so he wrote tons of stuff. Uh.
And now Netflix has acquired that company, which means they
will be able to make all sorts of different adaptations
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should they wish, which may mean that we'll get yet
another you know, Charlie and the Chocolate Factory adaptation, although
I would argue that the perfect one came out in
we we already know that we're getting a prequel about
Willie Wonka, so which we do not need. But okay, yeah,
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but you know, we also know because they shut down
production a little while ago when the Delta variants started
back up, that they're working on Matilda as well. Um,
Matilda the Musical, which you know we'll see. I I.
We've known for a while that Netflix was going to
do some stuff with Roald Dahl, but I did not
think they were going to get the entire series of stories.
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Do you happen to know who it was that wrote
music for Matilda the Musical. It's Tim mentioned. I was
about to say it was like, I was like Alan Manken, No,
that's not right. Tim mentioned, yes, yes, brilliant, brilliant Australian
comedian and musician. Uh, and the music for Matilda is wonderful.
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Like I still haven't seen the show. I have never
read the book. I didn't see the film adaptation of Matilda,
but I've heard some of the songs and I and
they're very charming. He's he is an incredible gifted musician
and creator. Look, he got me on board with a
Groundhog Day musical. So I also didn't know that he
did that until I watched an interview where he mentioned it,
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and I thought, oh, I completely dismissed groundhog Day the
Musical when I heard that, I thought, oh, I am
a poopoo head, and I need to listen to that music,
I will say. I say, it's really I haven't watched
groundhog Day the musical either, Unfortunately it's not touring, it
won't tour. But I have listened to the soundtrack and
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I've watched some performances like taped either on stage or
for promos from it, and it's yeah, it's fantastic. So well,
we have one last little thing we want to say
in this segment before we go to break, and that
is we have a release date for a new season
of a science fiction show that Aerial likes. Yes, The
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Orville March two. I was excited about it because I
like goofy space comedies. Uh, and then it ended up
being fairly sincere um. Yeah, The Orville completely took me
by surprise. I know I've talked about it before. I
really like it. I'm so glad that we know when
it's coming back. I can't. They left the second season
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with some pretty like dramatic stuff, so I'm very much
looking forward to what they do in a season three.
And this one is going to go to Hulu, whereas
the previous seasons had been on Fox, I believe. And yeah,
it's interesting because the article we have says, you know,
since that Disney now owns Fox, they decided to put
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Orville on the streaming service they own. I'm like, oh,
you mean the other streaming service they owned, because Disney
have course owns Disney Plus. Yeah, Orville cannot go on
Disney Plus. It just can't. Um. I mean, I don't know,
there's some stuff on Disney Plus that is not for kids. Yeah,
but this is Seth McFarland. You can't like, Okay, I
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mean that's fair. There's definitely Seth McFarland, at least in
the first half of the first season and throughout the
rest of the season here and there. It's not as
prevalent as like a Family Guy episode, but there's definitely
some Seth McFarland humor spattered throughout. Yeah. And and and
that was the reason why I didn't get on board
with the Oraville originally, because I was thinking, like, oh,
this is just going to be an unfunny send up
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of Star Trek. And then people that I respect, like
Aeriel and folks that I don't know, but I respect
them because I like their work ended up saying, you know,
the Orville is more feels like it's more in the
spirit of Star Trek than some of the more recent
Star Trek series have not for me to I haven't
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watched the new Star Trek series either, because I kept
feeling like, uh, this feels like it's I'm not saying
it's bad, I'm saying it doesn't feel like Star Trek
to me, so I don't really want to watch it. Um,
But everyone kept on saying, yeah, the Orville feels kind
of more like in the spirit of like Star Trek
the next generation. Yeah, they do. They do some really
cool stuff, and I would agree with that. I will say,
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having watched all of Discovery that is out currently, I
do actually like it more than I thought I would.
In season one, it feels like Star Trek voyagery ish.
I mean, it's it's definitely got a little bit more
great to it, but it also has a lot of
feel good Well, we've got some more you know, news
to cover, include some feel good news. But before we
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get to that, we're going to take a quick break. Okay,
we're back now, Ariel, I got a question for you,
and this is not we don't need to play the
We don't need to play the music. That's not that's
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that's not. That's not the kind of question. And you
got a question, you got no, no, no, that's fine. Uh,
this is a sincere one because I am I am
unfamiliar with a lot of the show runners for Doctor Who,
and so like I can't keep straight which one's the
general fandom typically likes and which one's the general fandom
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blames everything on. I know that there is that that happens.
But we have heard that Russell T. Davies is coming
back to the Doctor Who series to run the show.
So can you tell me more about who he is
and what that means, like at least in regard with
Doctor Who. So, Russell T. Davies is was the showrunner
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for Doctor nine and Doctor ten who were the first doctors.
They were Christopher eccleston and UM David Tennant. Yeah, so
when the show decided to come back after many years
of being off the air with new doctors, he was
the showrunner for that. Um and then when he he left, uh,
Stephen Moffatt took over for the eleventh doctor, who was
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Matt Smith. And then I think I'm missing Somebody, but
Chris Chimnell took over for Jody Wicker. The interesting thing
is all of these people, like Moffatt wrote episodes while
Russell T. Davies was a showrunner. You know, Chimnal wrote
episodes while other people were showrunners. So they've all worked together.
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But it's kind of who's who's at the helm And
I feel like I feel like people who, um, people
who are super like divisive over which doctor is good
which doctor isn't, are also divisive over the writers. But honestly,
they've all written some really amazing episodes and they've all
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written some pretty crappy episodes. Um. You know, there's a
Doctor who is one of those shows, as much as
I love it, where it's very inconsistent in the quality
of the storylines from week to week. Um. But yeah,
so if you've heard of Bad Wolf, Russell T. D
Davies was a part of that entire arc through the
ninth and tenth Doctor, which honestly wasn't my favorite arc,
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but you know, there were a lot of you know,
he was the showrunner during the Empty Child and the
Doctor Dances, and yeah, I I the for the Bad
Wolf thing. I remember watching because I did watch all
the way through that particular arc, and I remember thinking
that when it was resolved, I thought, wow, I thought
this was building up to something more interesting than what happened.
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Like I felt like it was one of those things
where people start setting something up before really knowing how
they're going to pay it off, and then they finally
get to the point where they need to pay it off,
they're just kind of like trying to do it. And
I could be totally wrong, that might not be anything
close to what actually happened, but um, yeah, I think
it's Moffitt that I typically hear the most divisive commentary about.
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But again, this is from someone who's coming from outside
because I'm I am. I am not a devoted Doctor
Who fan. Again, under his under his show runnership, there
were some amazing episodes and there are a lot of
like rappy episodes, but I feel that way about every
Doctor Who series, including the old ones. So I'm excited
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because again, Russell T. Davies was part of the team
that made Doctor Who popular again, So hopefully for for
this uh it's Doctor Who's sixty anniversaries. When he's coming
back on sixty years of Doctor Who, that's incredible. I'm
very excited. And there's always these discussions about whether or
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not Doctor Who will continue after like the current doctor,
and you know, whether or not there are plans to
keep it going. And I suspect that as long as
there are people who want to tell the stories, that
we will continue to see some incarnation of Doctor Who,
unless they just completely squandered the goodwill of Doctor Who.
Fans they're going to have to come in with a
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new doctor because Jody Whittaker has announced that she's leaving
after next year's specials along with Chris Chimnel, which why
is Davies is taking back over. So I keep on
hearing about how actors love the experience of becoming the
Doctor and they love the experience of leaving the show.
But David Tennant said the biggest lie he ever told
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was I don't want to go. You know, I've heard
it both ways. I'm sure that that's a very mixed bag.
You know, when I get done with a stage play,
I'm tired. It takes a lot of work, and especially
on from from what I've heard, and maybe this isn't
sure anymore. A lot of BBCT BBC sets at least
he used to be practical effects. So you're doing a
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lot of running around. Yeah, um, you know that's very
very like physically intensive work. So I can imagine at
least wanting a break. Well. One show that got a
long break was night Court. Yes, Nightcart the the sitcom
almost like it was. I showed a clip of this
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to our friend Shay, who had never She didn't know
what night Court was. It was like, I mean, she's
she is a young in yeah, And I said, I said,
you've watched Red Letter Media videos. You know. Mr Plinkett
is obsessed with night Court. He has a night Court
tape he wants to watch. She's like, yeah, I didn't
know what that was. I that was a movie. I'm like, no,
it was a TV series. Harry Anderson played Judge Harry T. Stone.
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John Laraquette was Dan Fielding. Marquee Post was Christine Sullivan. Sadly,
we've lost two of those three since then, but now
we hear that there's going or at least in development,
there is a reboot of night Court, and that on
top of that, uh, John Laraquette is attached to both
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be a producer and to appear in it. And um.
Melissa Rouch, who was in Big Bang Theory, is slated
to also be on the producing side and to play
the part of Harold T. Stone's daughter, who is now
a judge at Night Court. So she'll she'll be the
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main character. Uh. If you don't know who she was
on Big Bang Theory, she was Bernadette. She had the
glasses and the high voice. She kind of sounded like
Audrey from a Little Shop before she's a She's a
great actress. She's got really good comedic chops um, but
she can also be you know, do it in a
way that is believable. You know, you may not know
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that from Big Bang Theory, but like not not to
just her her performance on that. I thought she did
quite well on that show. But yeah, she's she's really
good at at balancing comedy and sincerity. So I look
forward to this very much. They better bring Moose back
Richard Maule, who played Bowl Bowl and Moose. No, that's
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Squirrel and Moose. Now he played Ball. I don't know
why I keep thinking Moose. I mean, like when I
think Moose, I think of you can't do that on television,
which is really dating me. But yeah, he was the bailiff.
Richard Maull played the bailiff ball and Who's Who's a
very sweet, very dim character. That the thing about night
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Court is that the longer it went, the weirder it got.
Where Like a typical episode might have sort of an
ongoing plot for the actual individual episode, but it's broken
up by all these court sessions. And the whole joke
about night Court is that that's when the weirdos are
brought before a judge. And so like Brent Spiner before
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he was data uh played a recurring character of this
country bumpkin and his family that always had the worst
things happen to like hello, your honor, it's us. And
so hopefully Brent Spiner will be able to come back
and reprise his role of it. But yeah, very weird
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because this is one of those shows that I never
expected to see come back. Also, I'm curious to see
if they will kind of pick up that sense of
absurdity that the show had, because it I don't know
if it would fit now. I'm part of me things like,
well gen Z might really attached to it because they
really like absurd humor, and part of me is like
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I don't is that gonna fly or is that just
gonna sink? I was about to say the same thing
I had. I just watched an episode of night Court
the other day. Half watched I was putting away laundry,
so I didn't give it my full attention. But um, yeah,
I don't know if that kind of humor holds up.
I don't know how the old areas holds up. I mean,
it's definitely dated. There's a lot of references to the
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time that came out. Um, but it's one of those
shows that if you had asked me would you like
a show like this, I would have said no. And
then I absolutely loved it, even even like, even not
fully understanding all of the content at the time that
it was on, I had a lot of fun with it.
Maybe that's why I like all the best is because
he was kind of He's very cartoony, and it's a
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very corny show. But as you were alluding to, there's
also like the character of Dan Fielding played by John Laraquette,
is a lecherous, uh money obsessed prosecutor who almost all
of his jokes have to do with him wanting to
go to bed with some woman. In the episode so yeah,
like one wonders if his character will have a reckoning
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because it is a very different time now. It is
a very different time now. Fun fact, I had a
friend who was creating his own tabletop RPG and you
were able to pick, like we are building our own skills,
and so I had a skill that which knowledge Night Court. Um,
I think you just had an expansive encyclopedic knowledge of
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Nightclas Yes, and him being the awesome DM that he was.
And it ended up being a heist where we're stealing
some item. I don't even remember what it was, but
my knowledge Night Court allowed us to call upon Bull
to help us with the heist, who is working as
a security guard after his time on the show ended.
It was brilliant, very odd that, just like the show.
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You know what else is very odd? The beloved science
fiction film that you absolutely love, Fly of the Navigator,
it's getting a reboot. I'm so happy. Um. Actually this
one is one that it's semi holds up for me.
Um rewatching it. Some of the effects are definitely not there,
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some of them. I'm like, okay, cool, I can still
get behind this. Um. Yeah, it's about this twelve year
old boy who uh disappears for eight years and when
he comes back, he's the same age because he ends
up being the navigator of an alien spaceship. Yeah, and
the fact that the alien spaceship was traveling at essentially
the speed of light meant that he was aging more
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slowly than people back on Earth, and so he was
taken to be studied, I guess, and then returned. But
by the time he's returned, eight years have passed for
everybody else and he has not aged an he befriends
his spaceship. Yeah, so I don't know. Like recently, a
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local casting director posted about this movie, and it got
me to thinking about how it's kind of actually very dark,
Like if you're it's scary. If you're a twelve year
old kid, you come back, you know, eight years later,
the same age, and all of your family has grown up,
and now everybody wants to like do all these tests
on you, and you can't go home. Like it's actually
kind of a scary movie. It also it also makes
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me think about how, except for a certain little glimpses
we've seen in some of the series, the m CU
really kind of tried to dodge the bullet of having
to deal with the consequences of the blip where half
of the universe is population returns after being gone for
five years. It's not quite the same thing, but it's
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a similar like issue. Yeah yeah, I mean they try
to They try to address it a little bit, but
in small spits and starts because they don't want their
whole movie to be about that. Um I'm excited about this.
Bryce Dallas Howard is directing it. Uh you know if
you don't, she's Ron Howard's daughter. She's she's a great actress.
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I think she was in Drassic World. She's also a
great director. She's done yea quite a few movies already.
One of my favorite episodes of the Mandalorians. So um,
I am. I am very much excited about It's like
it's one of the first movies I remember like sci
fi movies I remember liking independently as a child. Um,
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I wanted to be a navigator and have a cool
ship and make all these little alien friends on my ship.
And yeah, yeah, I just want to know if Paul Rubens,
a k a. Pewee Herman will be back, because he
provided the voice of the spaceship robot. If if one,
if has taught me anything, is that you can replace
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any actor with any other voice actor and they will
sound the same. Like. Half of that what I've cast
every episode I watched and I go is that the
actual actor is that somebody else, And half the time
it's somebody else, and they sound if it's Spiderman, it's
somebody else. Yeah, I know that, I know that it's
it's Captain Marvel, it's somebody else. Yep, so many of them.
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If it's Thor, it's still Thor. And if it's low Key,
it's still low key. Well, we've got our last story,
which is another reboot that's in the works. This is
one a news item that broke the day that we're
recording this, which we again is is the Monday um
and that's that there's going to be a reboot of
the science fiction series Babylon five. And Babylon five was
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an interesting series for one thing. From the very beginning,
it was conceived as a five season show that each
season would coincide with a year or like a year's
worth of time for the crew of this spaceship, and
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that at the end of those five years the story
would be over, so that it wasn't designed to be
this kind of ongoing series that trudges on and on
and then eventually peters out. Gave an opportunity to create
a beginning, middle, and end for the series, which is
not common here in the US. The article on Deadline
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says that they ran for five seasons and one hundred
and ten additional episodes. Yeah, yeah, it Actually they didn't
stick to it. No, so the plan was like it
was gonna be five, five and done. But you know,
when something has got a following, studios really like it,
when something can continue to potentially bring them money, and
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they hate not making money. Supernatural like, I'm sure Supernatural
would still be going to this day if it weren't
for the fact that everyone was just exhausted. Well, I mean,
it had a beginning, middle, and end. They had. The
writer had an endpoint. He says, the story is over
at this point, and then the studio is like, no,
it's not sorry, no, we can kill the Winchesters like
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at least twelve more times. So, I mean they learned
from comic books. Were you ever a fan of the
original Babylon five. I was not. I don't think I've
ever watched an episode of Babylon Five all the way through. Uh.
But then I was also like, like, I was kind
of a Star Trek Next Generation fan, and then after
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a while I kind of fell off science fiction for
a bit. So this might have been right around the
time where I was kind of migrating away from science
fiction and fantasy and then eventually I came back around
to it. But I think this was right around the
time where I was starting to lose interest. Yeah, like
I've seen some episodes. I probably watched more Babylon Five
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than I recall, but it was kind of like filler
for when there wasn't Star Trek. Star Trek was definitely
my Space opera of choice. Um. But that being said,
they're coming back with the original creator Strazinski. So you know,
I have friends who absolutely love it. One of them says,
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you have to get through the first two seasons to
absolutely love it, which is a big commitment. I would
say the same thing. It's true for Star Trek the
Next Generation though, or at least the first season and
a half. Yeah, maybe have someone cherry picked the good
episodes for you. Yeah, it won't take long, no know. Uh,
but that being said, I will definitely give the new
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one a try because I still do like space operas.
So yeah, So that that's it for our news. It
was a lot. Obviously, we had so much that we
we could not do a full discussion piece. We just
didn't have the time. We're going to take another break
and when we come back, we're gonna be mashing up
some Pokemons with some things that go bump in the night.
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So last week we talked about Pokemon hitting an anniversary
and getting a new game, and there have been multiple times,
so I'm like, hey, let's do a Pokemon mashup. So
it finally made the cut this time. Yeah, and it's
inspired also because coming up on Disney Plus getting back
to streaming, we're gonna get a mup It's special of
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Muppets and the Haunted Mansion. You know, they've been running
some promos for it, like they've seen some trailers and stuff,
and so we thought we've mashed up the Muppets before,
but we haven't mashed up the Haunted Mansion with something yet. Yeah,
and you know, beyond the Muppets Hanted Mansion, it is
a ride and it also had a another movie which
I've never watched, so that doesn't really factor into my mashup.
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But Eddie Murphy was Eddie Murphy. Oh for the Haunted
Mansion movie. Yeah, I I never watched that film. I
am aware of it. I never watched that film. It's
funny because Haunted Mansion, just for those who don't know, like,
the original idea was that was going to have more
of a storyline to it, and then things were considered
to be a little too intense in the original I
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think it was even supposed to be a walk through
attraction when they were first designing it, and of course
is not walked through. It is you get on your
your doom buggy and your ghost host takes you around
the ride. Uh, they got rid of a lot of
the story elements. They're some bits of it in there,
Like there's the the Black Widow bride who now appears
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multiple times in the ride. That that's a not a
fairly recent but like it was a later addition. I
remember as a kid that she only appeared at the
very end. Really um, but like, there's not a whole
it's more like an experience, not a story. So I
think the Haunted Mansion movie was kind of a nod
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to the original concept of the haunted mansion experience. But
I say that as someone who has never watched the movie,
so I don't know for sure. I haven't either, I
will probably watch the new movie if it continues to
be made. Um uh all right, So do you want
to go first? Or shall I? Uh? I can go
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first if you want? Sure? My my, My matchup is
called ghost balls. All right, here we go, Ash catch
him a k Satoshi has a problem. He has lost
his raison d'etre, for he has caught them all. That
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was what he had to do, and then he did it.
Every normal type, every water type, every grass type, even
every ghost type. Yep, he had caught your mask dust skull,
and he had even caught Poultia geist. Ash catch him wept,
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for there were no more Pokemons to conquer. That is,
it wasn't until something mysterious happened in a rarely visited
corner of Palette Town is an old mansion, long since
abandoned and fallen into disrepair. But Ash here's a rumor,
a rumor that the mansion might be haunted by brand
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new ghost Pokemon. Unable to contain himself, Ash immediately gets
dressed tossing the pj's he had and wearing for seven
straight weeks into a corner. They make a crunching sound.
He rushes across town, his handy poke ball ready to go.
Once he arrives at the rusty decrepit gate that leads
into the mansion, Ash takes a long look. The path
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to the mansion winds here and there, past crypts and
a small graveyard and this thing where if you if
you push it, sometimes it plays like music and other stuff,
and like there's a coin, but the coin is actually
attached to the ground, so you can't move the coin anyway. Yeah,
there's all this stuff there, and parked in front of
the mansion is an old fashioned horse drawn hearset, and
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everything about the place screams. This place is haunted and
Ash can't wait, and he doesn't have to. As he
is contemplating how he's going to get through the gate,
he sees this bluish glow emanating from around the corner
of the house, and around that corner it comes a
cloaked figure wearing a top hat and carrying sheafs of
paper which happened to have musical notation on them, and
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Ash goes for his trusty poke ball, which has inside
of it Leppard. Because everyone knows that ghost type Pokemon
are weak against dark type Pokemon. I mean, what are
you kidding me? You think I don't know about the
pokemon's no light hearts of dark Pokemon. Dark type very
good against ghost type. So Ash tosses his poke ball
at the spectral figure and Lepard bursts out, and what
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follows is a brutal example of using creatures to battle
one another for your own amusement, and the spectral Musician
is soon bested. Of course, he was also taken by surprise,
and after being knocked silly, Ash catches him. The poke
ball glows that same spectral blue color. Thus begins ashes
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long battle with the ghosts of the Haunted Mansion. After
that first night where he managed to catch three ghosts,
he realized that they weren't pokemon's at all. Nope, these
are just playing ghosts. They could catch them, but he
wouldn't be able to you know, forced them to fight
in his underground dog fighting style sport sniven underground. It's
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like celebrated there is messed up anyway, they were collectible
and with no more poker critters for him, to catch.
They would just have to do so. Night after night
Ash returns to the mansion, Boom, he would catch a
vanishing Hitchhecker Bang, he grabbed a twirling ghost dancing a waltz.
Madame Leota proved to be a bit of a challenge
because she emerged from her own crystal poker ball, but
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even she would join Ash's collection eventually. Months past a
year passes. Ash sometimes would leave with as many as
five ghosts, and some nights he failed to bring home
a single one. It took a long time, longer even
than it took him to get all the Polka decks,
because there are nine nine of the ding Dang things
in that mansion, even though there was room for one thousand.
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A year after beginning his quest, he completed it. The
final ghost to capture was an opera singer, but once
the Fat Lady sang, it was all over. Ashe had
caught the final ghost, even the ghost host was his,
he was once again in danger of falling into a depression,
having exhausted the supply of spirits, except he got a
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strange message. He got a message from a kid named Trevor.
Seems he's putting a team together and that he too
has a family history with ghostly activities. But we'll learn
about that more in a sequel called Pokemon Afterlife, a
ghostbuster story. The end that was quite delightful. I really
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enjoyed it. Yeah, I had to throw in an extra mashup.
I no, I think that was. That was brilliant. So
if your mash up was At first, I was gonna say,
if your mash up his ex caliber mine and in
fact is a sword in a stone, but it's they're different.
So this is called the Haunted Manchup much hamp um? Okay, yeah,
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Haunted the Champ yes, uh, which there's actually not much
my champ in this uh in this mash up. But
I couldn't pass up on the title. So Misty needed
a break, so she convinced her fellow Pokemon trainers to
go on vacation with her. And where did they go?
The happiest place on Earth now not Rhyme City. They
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went to Disney World, Pocket Monsters and all at first.
When they reached the park, they split up, Misty taking
her water Pokemon to Splash Mountain Rock taking his Pokemon
to the Seven Dwarves Mind Train because you know he
has a lot of like rock metal and with Pokemon
and Ash being stuck on a small world over and
over again, with Pikachu, who Ash was certain would never
now stop singing the song peak Pea Cap Peak Cat You,
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peek c peak cap peak cat You. But after much
gallivanting around the park, they all found themselves at the
same place, staring at the haunted mansion. The three trainers
wanted to ride, and just their luck, there was absolutely
no line, but the Pokemon all refused. When the trainers
tried to drag their Pokemon into the building, side Duck
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popped out of his poke ball and just stood outside
the entrance going side, making Misty more and more frustrated
than ever. But finally, after a lot of pushing and prodding,
they got all of their poke A critters into the mansion.
Once they were inside, it dawned on the trainers how
weird it was that there was no one else riding
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the ride. Also, did they even have ride operators? They
couldn't recall as the voiceover, which sounded eerily familiar, started up,
and the pictures in the stretching room started to morph
as the pictures more after, the group could see that
they were pictures of them, not the normal denizens of
the haunted mansion. This thoroughly creeped out Pikachu, and he
fried the portraits to a crisp. The door opened and
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the teammate ut on because that was the only way out.
As they boarded their doom buggies ushered by an operator
who they could have sworn had a couple extra arms,
they heard an ominous ghostly growl. The trainers thought they
recognized it as a gangar, but the operator chopped their
lap bar down and took the car took off before
they could catch or check for the Pokemon. As they
went through the Hunting Mansion, they kept seeing ghost Pokemon
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it or maybe just ghosts out the corner of their eyes,
and by the end they were certain that's what they
were seeing. In the big hall scene, there were tons
of ghostly, ghastly Pokemon, all causing a ruckus among the animatronics,
and none other than Team Rocket trying to catch them all. Apparently,
the ghost types had fudged up the ride workings and
scared all the regular ride goers away, and Team Rocket
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thought this was their chance to get a leg up
on the other pok A trainers. And increase their menagerie. However,
when they saw Missy and Brock and Ash were trying
to get on the ride, they knew they had to
pretend it was all business as usual and get the
three through the ride as soon as pass it possible
so they wouldn't notice something was wrong and Team Rocket
could catch them all. However, Ash, Missy, and Brock were
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so upset that this was just another one of Team
Rockets stupid dumb, dumb, stupid plans and not like an
actual ghost mystery, so they had Pikachu like fry their
Doom Buggy so it stopped. They jumped out, and they
battled Team Rocket for all the ghost Pokemon because they
are still poker trainers and they had to catch the
ghost Pokemon, and of course they succeeded because there's so
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much smarter and better than stupid Team Rocket. And then
they remounted their Doom Buggy to leave the attraction. As
they left the Doom Buggy, their hitchhiker ghost friends turned
into the gangar they thought they heard earlier, and the
animatronics in the hall scene morphed back into more creepy
Pokemon to have a party. The end I see now
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I have written the Haunted Mansion when it has its
Nightmare before Christmas overlay. I look forward to trying to
ride the Haunted Mansion when it has its Pokemon. I mean,
especially like if the Pokemon are real and it gives
you this other sense of like urgency to it it,
then Disney would shut it down, just like they they
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shut down the Stitch Ride because it was too scary.
Well they should have stud shut down that that whole.
I didn't like that ride when it was Alien Encounter.
I wasn't a big fan of it when it was
the Stitch one either. I feel like Encounter, I felt
like it was a bad fit, like a bad fit
for a park that's that's heavily geared toward kids. Yeah,
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but I get it. I get it. Let's say that
you are there, have your own thoughts of how Pokemon
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