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October 7, 2021 50 mins

From fave fall activities to classic hollywood monsters to spoopy spy mash-ups, Ariel and Jonathan jump feet first into the Falloween season.

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Speaker 1 (00:07):
The Large nerd Drunk Collider Podcast is a production of
I Heart Radio. Hey everybody, welcome to the Large nor
Drunk Collider Podcast, the podcast that's all about the geeky
things happening in the world around us and how very
excited we are about them. I'm Arial casting and with me,

(00:29):
as always, is the super spooky, scary John I've been Strickland,
I go bump in the night. Hey, hey, Ariel, I
got a spooky question for you. So we are we
are officially in the Halloween season, Ariel, which means that

(00:51):
for the next like four episodes, there's gonna be some
spooky nous, but this first one we're gonna ease into.
I didn't want to grow the heaviest spooky questions that
you first thing, So this question is more about what
are some of your favorite fall or Halloween centric activities.

(01:13):
I like to go apple picking and then bake things
with apples. This is true. I knew this of Ariel
already because every year she goes apple picking. So so,
like you said, fall centric, and so it is my
pre Thanksgiving activity. You know, I wouldn't necessarily say it's
a Halloween activity, but it is my favorite pre Thanksgiving

(01:37):
preparatory festival activity. Um, yes, what about oh, in decorating
for the tricker treaters, I do like handing out um
full sized candy bars for the like the three kids
we get every year. What about you? I Well, so

(01:58):
I've only ever done it one time and then COVID happened.
But I had a blast going through a corn maze
a couple of years ago, went with with my wife
Rebecca and our friend Shay. She came along. You've heard
us talk about she is kind of like an honorary
l n C member at this point. Hi, Sha, she

(02:20):
does listen to the show. So we all went together
to this fall festival thing that had a corn maze
and a little like hay ride and stuff and had
a good time. And I really enjoyed the corn maze.
I thought it was a lot of fun, or a
maze maze if you like. How was it scurry? It
was not scurry. It was just festive like they had,

(02:42):
you know, some jack O lanterns and stuff. But it
was more like fall festival and less spooky horror. So, um,
I've never done a haunted house, apart from like the
Haunted Mansion, which I don't count. I've never done like
a haunted hay ride or anything like that. It's so
it was just like, you know, this chill sometimes literally
it was kind of chilly that day, um and fun.

(03:05):
I cannot believe you've never done a haunted house. I
have so many of them in Georgia. I know, we
have a nether World, which is one of the really
like the premier haunted houses in the United States, particularly,
I mean really definitely in the Southeast, But I have
never ever. I know people who have worked them, but
I've never been to one man, going going to a

(03:27):
haunted house when while working Renaissance Festival was miserable because
the actors aren't supposed to touch you, but if they
know you sometimes they get a little loosen with us
with that rule. Yeah, because there there's a there's a
bit of a crossover between the Resaissance Festival crowd and
the Haunted House crowd. A lot of the same actors

(03:47):
will do both gigs. Yeah, I, um, nope, still have
never done one. I don't know if it would be
my thing or not. Like, like, I definitely appreciate the art, right,
I appreciate what it's all about. The scares, and all
that kind of stuff, So I wouldn't be one of
those jerks trying to, you know, put on a tough
face and not act like that's nothing. Because I'm an

(04:09):
actor too. I hate that, Like, if you're up on
stage and you're giving it, you're all and the audience
is giving you nothing, there is no feeling that's worse
in the world. So I would never want them to.
But at the same time, I would be like, do
I play it up? Do I go like or maybe
I'd be legitimately scared. I don't know, because I've never

(04:30):
done one I am. I tend to like the like
the fantastic. I've done Another World quite a few times,
and usually if I'm not with a big group, I
introduce myself to the people in front of me and
then bury my face in their back times like I
am the person. I am the person who will be
using you as a human shield. It's nice to meet you.

(04:52):
I have legitimately said that in the past when I
did not have enough friends to buffer myself from the
haunts um like. I prefer the more fantastical haunted houses,
the ones that are more like real life grotesque or
scary or sat like I don't like um as much
or like three d ones. So usually half of another
world would be really for me, and then half of

(05:13):
another world would be really not for me. But you know,
like if you if for instance, if you're going through
and looking at art, you can look and try to
anticipate where the jumps are, the scares of the haunts
are going to be, or you can go through and
enjoy the creation of the world they've built and then
be genuinely startled when someone jumps out at you. You know,
that's I know somebody who was working on Haunted House

(05:35):
ones who got punched in the face though because the
recipient's reaction to fear was fight not flight. Um, so
just don't do that. Yeah, I I I would definitely
want to be a good you know, patron, right, I'd
want to be one of the people that at the
end of the night, maybe some of the actors are
getting together and talking like, oh, yeah, there's this one

(05:58):
bald guy. He had the best screen. It was great.
Like I would like to be that dude, right, Like
I don't. My masculinity is not threatened by the fact
that I am easily startled. Also, as I have made
clear on this very podcast in the past, I am
not observant, so I am not likely to notice the

(06:19):
obvious set up for a scare, and thus it will
work like gang Busters on me. Nice. So so that
will be our two uh Folliday goal for you. Yeah, maybe,
Well we'll do it. We'll do a podcast recorded live
at another world and it'll just be me going, which
you know it won't be just to you. Okay, let's

(06:41):
get so be I won't be alone in that. Well,
we're going to talk now about some news items, and
we're gonna kind of breeze through some of these because
we've got quite a few we want to cover before
we get to the next section. But the first is
to follow up on a story we talked about last week,
which was ATSI, the the Professional Association. As for the
below the line crew members who work on various movie

(07:06):
and TV productions, including streaming productions. They held a vote
to authorize a strike and the vote passed with a
ninety eight percent support level, which is incredible. Now, this
does not mean that they've gone on strike. It means
they've authorized a strike, which gives the union leads more

(07:27):
leverage when they go back to the negotiating table to
talk about getting better benefits, which they're doing UM, which
they started doing this week. The Alliance of Motion Picture
and Television Producers did go back to the table with
iatsy UM to try to h find an agreement with them.

(07:48):
Following the vote, the AMPTP said that it remains they
remain committed to reaching an agreement that will keep the
industry working. They deeply value their IoTs crew members and
are committed to work with them to avoid shutting down
the industry at such a pivotal time, especially after the
COVID nineteen pandemic. So it would be nice if they
had said this before the strike vote. Yeah, well, it

(08:09):
also would have been nice if that commitment that they
talked about had actually come through in the various actions
that have led people to want to strike in the
first place. Right, Like the reason why people are willing
to go because obviously, going on strike is an enormous sacrifice. Right,
It's not like it's fun. It's not like you're making

(08:30):
money while you're doing it. You are, you are putting
your livelihood on hold in an effort to get better
treatment from your employers. And if it weren't for the
fact that conditions were at a point where it was
necessary for this, then we wouldn't be where we are today.
I am hopeful that because they had that percent support, like,

(08:52):
it was pretty clear that they were going to get
the votes needed to authorize a strike. The question was
would it be enough to send a message to say, no,
we are serious. And it's the overwhelming majority, well, I
think exceeds pretty much everyone's estimation of what it was
going to be nowe of those who voted, but I

(09:13):
think even that was over of union members. So still
very very high numbers. Yep. And uh, what about our
next story, because this is one that I have expressed
some skepticism about, but this particular news is kind of interesting. Yeah.
So Wonka, which is the prequel starring Timothy Shallow may

(09:34):
um to like Charlie and the Chocolate Factory at All,
has begun gun filming and they've announced more of the
cast members. So we talked about this earlier on the
Pandemic and we had said that, you know, it was
being headed up by the gentleman who worked on Paddington,
which Paul King Paddington too, he co wrote Um and Um.

(09:58):
Paddington has been one of those movies that his surprised
many adults as being actually quite fun and has gotten
a lot of very very large name actors involved in it.
And that is also true for Wonka. So we're getting
Ron Atkinson, Olivia Coleman, Rich Fulture, Sally Hawkins, all kinds

(10:22):
of people who have Keegan Michael Key, all kinds of
people who have who are award winning actors and then
also award winning like producers and costume designers and things
like that, all involved in this prequel to Really Wanka
and the Chocolate Factory. Yeah, it's it's enough to make

(10:44):
me really interested. First of all, like I love Rowan Atkinson.
I was a huge Blackadder fan, not as much Mr Bean.
I liked Mr Bean, but I'm I'm an enormous black
Adder fan. Rich Fulture I think of from the Mighty
Bush that I know him as a crazy American who
shows up in a lot of British comedies. But I

(11:07):
love that the story that that Ariel linked to mentions
him as a member of the cast of Marriage Story,
because I haven't seen Marriage Story. But I did a
double take because I've never thought of Rich Culture as
a serious actor, and I was just like. So I
was immediately imagining him playing a part of the Marriage
Story where he was just his you know, over the

(11:27):
top comedic self. That that is pretty funny. I also
have not watched Marriage Story, but I I love when
comedic actors go dramatic, so um, I would probably at
least enjoy his performance. Yeah, you Laurie made it work,
so that that's uh. Now I'm like I was. I
was already kind of interested because I had heard the

(11:49):
reputation of Paddington and Paddington two, which I haven't seen
yet and I need to see it, so that had
already got me a little curious. This makes me more curious,
which makes me kind of hate myself because I was
so gung ho on not caring about Willy Wonka prequel,
and now I kind of do I get it, because Yeah,

(12:11):
when they first announced it, I was like, you, Willy
Wonka and the Chocolate Factory was a really well done movie.
I didn't like the Johnny Depp one. I don't think
we need more of it. You know, if you even
look at the original story. Even though the House of
roll Doll has been trying to correct some of his
past misgivings, and missteps and issues. Um you know, it's

(12:33):
it's a story that if you go back to some
of the past, you're like, do we really want to
explore that? But well, and and plus like, a big
appeal to me for the character of Willy Wonka is
the mysterious nature of the character. And if you explore
a character's backstory, then you are, by definition removing some
of that mystery, which is part of what made the

(12:55):
characters so appealing to me. And that's what kind of
worries me. Now. The nice thing is, no matter what,
that nineteen one Gene Wilder Willy Wonka film will still exist.
I actually recently purchased it in Ultra for K Blu ray,
so it's one of the Ultra four K Blu rays
that I own. Um, so yeah, that'll still exist, and

(13:19):
I can still enjoy it all on its own. Even
if ultimately I decide like this version, even if it's
a great movie, if it kind of removes the mystery
behind Willy Wonka, I can kind of, you know, forget
that it exists. Speaking of classic media that you don't
want to be rewritten over, We've got an article about

(13:40):
the Peanuts and a new holiday Special. Yeah, Peanuts a
k a. The Charlie Brown Gang. Everyone probably thinks of
it more as Charlie Brown than Peanuts. Yeah, this is
another one of those things that could have easily been forgotten.
But we're getting a new Charlie Brown Special, one that
is going to be focused on the New Year. And

(14:03):
the little summary that we got sounds classic Charlie Brown.
I'm totally digging it. Mm hmm. Yeah. It says in
for Odd Lank Sign, which is the name of the special.
After the Peanuts Gang experience a disappointing Christmas because Grandpa
can't visit, Lucy resolves to throw herself the best New
Year's Eve party ever. What Charlie Brown struggles to accomplish
just one of his resolutions before the clock strikes twelve

(14:25):
end quote. Um, Apparently this is based off of an
old Charles Schultz comic strip. So oh excellent. I didn't
even know that, And I mean I used to have
like all the Charlie Brown books, but I just I
love that that plot point of Charlie Brown just determined
to try and complete one of the resolutions he had

(14:45):
for that year before it becomes the New Year. Like
that is the most Charlie Brown Charlie Brown thing I've
ever heard. I agree, I agree, I'm looking forward to it.
I really like Charlie Brown and Snoopy and the Peanuts. Yeah,
me too. Well, let's talk a little bit about some
of our reactions to some recent trailers, one of which
is House of the Dragon, that is the prequel series

(15:09):
to Game of Thrones, because obviously HBO and Warner Brothers
want a reason to print more money, and they ran
out of they ran all the Song of Ice and
Fire books, so now they have to make new ones. Uh,
you saw this trailer, what did you think? I think
it looked like Game of Thrones with a lot more Targarians. Yeah,

(15:30):
that's that, Okay, you said what I would say. The honestly,
the most surprising part was that Max that Matt Smith
a k a. Doctor eleven, Dr Who Number eleven looks
really good in a long white wig. I just thought
he looked weird. But I always think he looks weird.
He always looks a little alien to me, So that's

(15:52):
I don't mean that in a bad way, like I
don't mean like bad weird, just he's got a unique
kind of look to him. And even with the light
wig that unique this comes through. Yeah, he's playing the
younger brother of one of the big Targarrans. This shows
how much I know about Hi Timble, how much I
know about Game of Thrones. Um, it sounds like from

(16:14):
the trailer it's I think Matt Smith is doing the
voice over, and it sounds like he's kind of like, uh, Si, yeah,
we we're not as good as we say. Um is
the impression I get from him. Yeah. Well, and it's
it's supposed to follow the story of like a my dog.
It's no, it's not supposed to follow a story of

(16:36):
my dogs. Definitely watching it. I mean a series with
Tibble would be adorable and obnoxious as you can hear
in the background. But but no, it's supposed to follow
like a civil war among the Targearians, among that house
from what I understand. But like, I really fell off
the Game of Thrones stuff, so I don't know that

(16:59):
this is going to bring me into it. Um. I'm
sure it will have the same production values, the same
amount of drama, probably lots of brother and sisters getting
closer than I would care to watch, because that's uh,
that's one of the Tartarian's like, that's one of the
things that makes them who they are. They gotta keep

(17:19):
those bloodlines pure. Um, it's a historical thing. But well,
the more the historical thing tends to be more cousins
than siblings. But yeah, good old George R. R. Martin
decides to up it a notch. Well, let's talk about
a different trailer, a trailer for Serra No. It is

(17:42):
another adaptation of the nineteenth century place Sierra No de Bejarrek.
This time, Uh, the main character is not a tall
man with lots of panache who happens to have a
very long nose. It is instead Peter Dinklich playing the
role of Serra No. Yes, Peter Dinklage from Game of

(18:03):
Thrones and many other things. Uh, the trailer for that.
If you haven't watched it, you should. This is one
of those classics that I We've had a couple of
versions of Siano de Bergerac, including one I think with
Steve Martin Roxanne. Roxanne is is a loose adaptation of
Sira No. But it's one of those stories that I

(18:24):
feel like comes up so like remakes come up so
infrequently that I'm always delighted when I see they're making
a new one, and Peter Dinklige is a cutie so
other than his they're playing off the fact that he's
so short, but yeah, he's a doorps. So I love
the idea of Peter Dinkliche playing Sarah No, and I

(18:44):
love the idea that they have have kind of changed
the physical aspect but retained the spirit. What I did
not expect was that this is a musical that threw
me off. I was watching, I was like ready to
be totally on board. Sidr No de Bergerac is one
of those plays that I absolutely adore. It has one
of my favorite lines in drama. Ever. It is like

(19:07):
a punch to the stern um. That's how powerful the
line is. So I was ready, I was all in,
and then the music started and then Roxanne started singing,
and I was like, oh, I didn't know it was
a musical, and that that that took me aback. So
I'm not saying that it's gonna be bad. I'm not
saying I'm not gonna like it, but um, but it

(19:32):
made me take a step back from jumping totally on board.
I get that. So when you told me, because you
watched this trailer before I did today, and when you
told me it was a musical, I'm like, oh, yeah,
I could get behind that. And then the song was
underwhelming and it was the only song in the trailer.
So it's kind of like the first episode of Galivant
where it was just the same song repeating over and
over and it was underwhelming. Yeah, I, um, yeah, I

(19:59):
hope it will be great. Uh. I would have preferred
it to not be a musical, and I this is
coming from someone who loves musicals, by the way, I
just don't feel that this one needed to be. Uh.
It already has a lot of melodramatic elements to it.
If you are familiar with the original play, there's nothing
subtle about it. So for them to dial that up

(20:22):
to eleven spinal taps style and make it a musical
really kind of took me by surprise. Yeah, yeah, i'd
say that. Um. And we've got one last piece of
news we're just going to touch briefly on because it
is spooky season, uh, to segue us into our next
spooky segment, which is that Netflix is adapting the works
of Edgar Allan Poe for a new series. Yeah, Mike,

(20:44):
Flanagan is heading it. He's the guy behind the Haunting
of Hill House and the Haunting of Blind Manner and
Midnight Mass. They're calling it the Fall of the House
of Usher, which is a specific Eggarland Post story, but
apparently that's going to serve as kind of the connective
tissue or different eggar Allan Post stories to be told
throughout the season. So it's like that ends up being

(21:06):
the bookend kind of element, and that maybe the the
House of Usher ties everything else in together. Uh no
word yet on which specific egg Allen Post stories are
going to be included, but based upon the people involved,
and based upon the fact that I love the source material,
I'm very much looking forward to this being really atmospheric

(21:30):
and creepy. I agree, um so I One of my
first shows that I did that I acted in was
a touring school show or we're supposed to act in it.
This one never actually took off, but it was the
stories of ed Garland Poe and I had to memorize
Annabelle Lee and Cask of a Manciato um and I

(21:53):
memorized Cask of a Manciado word for word um as
my stories to tell during this staged production of post
post Works. Um fascinating. I know I was. I was
also in a stage production that was inspired by Agar
Allan Poe. It was a one man show about eggar
Allan Poe called I'm just a po Boy Nobody Loves Me?

(22:15):
Is that true, Jonathan, No, that's that's what I like
to call a lie. I would watch it, though, I
would watch it. Here's the thing. I like post works
and I like reading them. And I had so much
fun prepping for that show. Even if it never took off.
We had a few shows we were doing in that series. Um,
but that one never never booked. I guess, um, I

(22:37):
would be too scared to watch this series of it though.
Stories are scary if you look at them. I mean
maybe so. But did you ever watch the Haunting of
Hill House? You know the answer to that, Jonathan, You should,
it's so good. I watched House on Haunted Hill, like
the very original one. That's a different thing, easily too

(23:01):
easy to mistake, because there is there is the House
on Haunted Hill and there's the Haunting of Hill House.
Those are two different things, but they're very easy to
mix up. And you know, I will, I will probably
I'm probably more likely to watch The Fall of the
House of mc escher Um, where where a bunch of

(23:22):
impossible staircases just fallen on themselves. That's that's why it's
called the fall Um. Yeah, I'm sure, I am certain
it will be very well done. If nothing else, well,
one thing that we're certain has not been very well
done is what we're going to talk about in our
next segment. We're gonna try and keep that short and
sweet before so we can get to our mashups. But

(23:43):
first let's take a quick break. Okay, So back in December,
Jonathan and I were looking at topics that we wanted

(24:05):
to talk about, and there was some news about Universal's
Dark Universe, I think about like paintings or something that
we're being sold, and we said, no, we're going to
hold on to this topic into Halloween. And it's Halloween,
and so now we can finally talk about the missteps
of Universal's Dark Universe, which made me so so sad. Right,
and in case you're not familiar with that whole concept,

(24:27):
Universal was trying to do something similar to Marvel's Cinematic
Universe or the Star Wars Universe, or even DCS extended Universe,
although that approach is kind of haphazard and all over
the place, which we have covered on this show before,
but they wanted to do it with properties that Universal
owns the rights to, which includes all these classic movie monsters,

(24:50):
some of which obviously come from fiction, like like novels
and stuff. I mean, they're all fictional, but some of
them come from novels and stuff, but Universe a stones
the movie rights, so stuff like Frankenstein's Monster and the
Invisible Man and the Creature from the Black Lagoon, and
The Mummy and apparently Phantom of the Opera and Quasimoto,

(25:12):
though I would say those two do not belong in
the same category at all. Yeah, but they do appear
as like they are thought of as classic Universal monsters.
You know, you think about Lawn Cheney and Lawn Cheney Jr.
And the characters that they made iconic, and that's all
kind of wrapped up in this. So the idea was
to create a franchise of movies that were tied together,

(25:33):
where you could have you know, monster films, either standalone
ones or ones that they were kind of stitched together.
And we saw a little bit of that because well,
first they tried it with Dracula Untold that was going
to be kind of the soft entry into this Dark universe.
But Dracula Untold did not do well either critically or

(25:55):
at the box office. So Universal kind of decided, like
uh A Mulligan, that that was not going to count
and that they were going to try again, and that's
when they released the Tom Cruise Mummy film, and you
also had Russell Crowe show up in that as as
Dr Jekyl slash Mr. Hyde, and it turned out he

(26:18):
was supposed to be the Nick Fury type character who
would tie together various monsters in the Dark Universe extended Universe,
and that we would eventually start getting these other movies
that would establish those characters and also have them encounter
one another and potentially go forward from there. But then

(26:40):
the Mummy didn't do so well. It's so the Mummy
didn't do well either. No, it's so frustrating too. Wasn't
there also like a Frankenstein. There was a Frankenstein movie
that came out around those times. Yeah, there were there were.
There was one. Oh gosh, yeah, I don't know if
it falls in the it doesn't. That one was a
maxim and this movie also was not very good. No,

(27:03):
there was one that was that, the one that had
Daniel Radcliff in it as here. Yeah. Yeah, So there
were several attempts like that one that one was not
supposed to as far as I know, was not officially
supposed to be part of the Dark Universe. Like they
even announced actors who are going to be attached to
playing iconic characters. So for example, Johnny Depp was supposed

(27:26):
to be the Invisible Man um and of course we
did get an Invisible Man movie in twenty that was not,
at least according to the director, intended to be part
of the Dark Universe. But now we have Universal and Bloomberg,
not Bloomberg bloom blom House, Yeah, Bloomberg something different bloom

(27:47):
House and Universal perhaps kind of treating it like it
might be another back end attempt to create a Dark
Universe maybe, or maybe that they will just reboot the
old Monster movies. But like how the d C You
is now where they're independent from each other, but they're

(28:07):
all refreshers. I mean, on paper, this should be great,
like the old Monster movies are wonderful. The Wolfman I
think I didn't watch it, but it got pretty good
reviews um and then like you also have Leak of
Extraordinary Gentlemen, which, while the movie they made was horrible,
is this entire concept wrapped up in a comic book

(28:28):
of all of these like the Invisible Man and Dr
Jackal mr Hyde and all of these people who might
be considered monstrous working together kind of like superheroes. Although
although the stuff that happens in that graphic novel does
get brutally monstrous, particularly between the two characters you just mentioned. Yes,

(28:48):
I'm I'm aware of that, but like that comic series
was very popular for a long time, so it seems
like Universal had a guideline to follow even they that
they could play with. Yeah, I would say that The
Mummy was just a bad movie. Like, for one thing,
the character that Tom Cruise plays like, he's he's sort

(29:10):
of an Indiana Jones slash Laura Croft type who then
through the course of the film is hit with a
Mummy's curse. But the Mummy he's fighting isn't like the
classic monster movie Mummy, and he's not the classic monster
movie Mummy. So it also comes down to this thing

(29:31):
that we've both you know, commented on before, which is
where a studio wants to capitalize on the brand that's
already been established, but change it so much that it
no longer even resembles the thing that the brand was.
And so they're trying to have it both ways, and
it's not connecting with fans of the classic monsters and

(29:56):
it's not establishing new fans because the movie was terrible.
So it's just a failure. And so we're seeing like
these flailing attempts. Uh. And the question is whether or
not they're going to continue or they will just quietly
brush aside the idea of a dark universe and go

(30:17):
more than route you were saying, Ariel, where they do
reboots and refreshes on these classic I p s, but
they don't try and turn it into an interconnected universe. Yeah.
I'd be fine with either. I just since I have
a hard time with scary movies. Those classics were ones

(30:37):
that I really enjoyed. Um And until I get a
new is it swamp Thing or Creature from the Black
Lagoon either both movie, I'm just going to be a
sad said Ariel. Yeah, no, it would have to be
Creature for the Black Lagoon. Warner Brothers could potentially do
a swamp Thing I think. I mean, they did a
TV show. DC does owns swamp Thing. So here's the thing.

(31:01):
I always got Creature from the Black Lagoon and Swamp
Thing mixed up, although I like both um and I
do want a creature from the Black Lagoon reboot movie
not serious movie. UM. So the swamp Thing DC TV
show got canceled because of, from my understanding standing, confusions

(31:23):
with tax reimbursements in the state where it was filming. Uh.
And I was sad because I did not want to
pay for the DC streaming service to watch it. But
now it's on HBO and it is on my list
of things to watch. And I don't know if they're
ever going to do a second season or if the
first season is any good because they had to cut
it short, but I'm gonna watch it. Yeah, I mean,

(31:43):
I would love to see I don't know. I would
love to see certain directors get a shot at making
a new version of some of these classic movie monster stories.
Like Guielmo del Toro. I think could make a phenomenal

(32:05):
entry into into any of these classic characters, Like he
could make an amazing movie filled with pathos, like he
could make you feel for the monster while still making
the monster monstrous. I think that would be phenomenal. Or
Mike Flanagan, the person we were chatting about with the
The Haunting of Hill House and uh the upcoming Edgar

(32:26):
Allan Poe adaptation. I think he could make a really
atmospheric like Dracula movie. I agree. My pick would be
Jordan Peel. Yeah, that'd be great. Who would you which?
Which character would you want him to do? Honestly, I
feel like he would best handle Frankenstein's Monster or possibly

(32:49):
either Quasimotor or a Family the Opera, the two that
I feel like aren't really monsters because he does really
good social commentary. I think for that reason, he would
also be great for Bride of Frankenstein. Yes, yes, that
would also be quite good. Yeah, no, these would be
These are the sort of things where I would really
be excited to hear, like to give it to directors

(33:12):
who have a particular strong voice and perspective. It's one
of the things that I find frustrating about the Marvel movies,
because even though I love the Marvel movies, you get
the feeling that with a few exceptions, Taiko wa Tit
being one of them that directors aren't given enough leeway

(33:32):
so that their voice comes through. The Marvel voice is
more important than the director's voice. So you see a
couple of directors leave because of that. Yeah, yeah, And
I think that's also why Marvel tends to go for
people who aren't necessarily associated with big name films, because
the studio can have more leverage over someone who isn't

(33:54):
already a household name. Right. So, but that's getting into
the politics of movie making. Maybe we'll do a full
discussion about that at some point, because it is both
fascinating and frustrating, both for for you know, audiences and
for filmmakers. But yeah, um, here's hoping that we do

(34:14):
get some really great films that feature these beloved characters.
I just I just want to see it in a
way that doesn't feel like they're shoving a dark universe
structure down our throats and trying to to build like
Notre Dame Cathedral all at once instead of brick by brick.

(34:36):
I I agree with that. Well, speaking of shoving some
dark universe down people's throats, let's take a quick break
and then we'll come back into our mash ups. Real

(35:00):
that was an amazing segue into the ad break. So, uh,
we did decide to go with something spooky for one
half of our mashups, and that is the Mummy. We
we thought the Mummy would be right for us to use.
What is the other half of our mash up equation,

(35:20):
James Bond, because the is It No Time to Die
as most recent James Bond movie, That one just came out. Yeah,
the final it's the final Daniel Craig James Bond film. Yes, yes, So,
inspired by the fact that Daniel Craig is is uh
shaking his martini for the last time, we thought we
would mash up these two properties. Uh, who would you

(35:44):
like to go first? Arial, I'll go first, and I
will say I am. I vaguely built my mash up
off of the Brendan Fraser version of The Mummy, not
the Tom Cruise nor the very original one. Um. So
this is called the Mysterious m Bond. James Bond had
just gotten done capturing Ernst stavro Blofeld and decided to

(36:07):
visit his deceased love's tomb. But when he got to
the place where Vesper had been laid to rest, the
site was anything but RESTful. In fact, it was completely empty,
only a whole remained. But before Bond could figure out
what was going on, a bomb detonated and he was
knocked out. When Bond comes to, he sees Q and
Money Penny hovering over him. They say, due to the

(36:29):
severity of his internal trauma, they are taking him off
his latest assignment, taking away all of his gadgets, and
relegating him to desk duty for the time being. But James,
no stranger to pushing his body past its limits, protests.
He insists on seeing M and getting his assignment back,
but it is told by Many Moneypenny that M is
indisposed and he cannot see her. This is in a
world where M is still alive all day at his desk.

(36:52):
Bond feels something is off, and so he waits until
late at night when the m I six is shut
down to a skeleton crew and he sneaks into M's
of this. When he gets into M's office, it's a shambles.
Everything is overturned, there scratch marks on the walls and desk,
and dusty bits of cloth in jerky everywhere, and the
secret door out of M's office is broken. Bond starts

(37:14):
to go down the secret hallway, but thinks he hears
someone coming up from the other end and leaves before
he can be caught. The next day, Bond goes to
confront Moneypenny, but she hasn't come into work. Bond decides
to visit Q instead to figure out what's going on,
since Q was the other person who delivered Bond's new orders.
But Q's door is locked, and when Bond tries to
get into the lab, he's told by Q through the

(37:36):
intercom to go away. The Bond is undeterred, even though
his gadgets are gone, his skills are not, and he
made divers his way into Q's office. Once inside, Bond
can see that Q is in bad shape. He has
scratches all over him, a chunk is missing out of
his arm, and he's sweating profusely due to a high fever.
Bond tries to glean what's happened from Cube. Before he can,
Que passes out. Bond quickly raids Q's lab and bugs

(37:59):
his phone to try to get any more pieces to
the puzzle. Now that all the people he knew that
had pieces are unconscious are gone, and then it happens.
Kira receives a message from Cairo a one Ben Benny Gayber.
In fact, Bond, with no one around to stop him,
traces the call to Benny's location and hops a private
jet to Egypt. Once in Egypt, Bond finds Benny and

(38:21):
gets the truth out of him. At first, Bond did
not believe it working for a mummy. Did Benny take
Bond to be a fool. But when the man's story
did not waver even in Iota, no matter what Bond
put him through, Bond knew it was true. You see, Vesper,
Bond's old love was to be the new vessel of
Emma Hotep's long lost love. Years ago, tomb raiders had
broken into Imma hoteps crypt and awoken him. The grave robbers,

(38:44):
one of whom was a reincarnate of Emmitt Hoteps Love
all escaped, but Benny did not, and he was stuck
to be a servant to immat To Hotep, I can't
say this name until the day that his love was
returned to him, and Vesper was a relative to the
original grave robber love, and therefore was also occursed to
be a new vessel. But sadly, before Benny could dig
up the grave of Vesper to bring her corpse to

(39:05):
in my Hotep M I six got word and retrieve
the body. They hadn't told Bond, knowing he was too
close to the situation. However, once they had retrieved the body,
Vesper reanimated in the headquarters due to the curse and
then in my Hotep's power, at which point she scratched
and turned M into a mummy zombie. It's a thing,
people deal with it. Q and Moneypenny, knowing that the

(39:25):
news on M being mummified could if it got out,
would be trouble, tried to contain the secret Money Penny
felt to M, and then Q contained both M, Moneypenny,
and Vesper, trying to find a cure, but not before
getting scratched and bitten himself. Benny then offers James Bond
a cure now we're back in Egypt, in exchange for

(39:47):
Bond to set him free. Bond agrees, and after Benny
gives him the cure, Bond gives Benny a bullet between
the eyes. Bond swiftly returns home to London and tries
to save his teammates. He finds Moneypenny and M locked
up and is able to cure them and queues condition
is also reversible, but Vesper, or what had once been Vesper,
has disappeared without a trace. That night, Bond goes to bed,

(40:08):
worried about how things have been left, and anxiously closes
his eyes, and then we see a sam shambling shadow
on his wall. Cut to black, and that's that Daniel type.
Craig retires. But it really, it really sets the bar
high for the next Bond. Yes, it's gonna start with
a mummy fight. This this one here is my mash up.

(40:33):
And I call this one keeping It under Wraps, which
which I'm guessing has to be also the name of
whatever song it is. And someone's gonna sing it. I'll
say it's um Oh, I don't know. Billie Eilish. Billie
Eilish does a song called keeping It under Wraps and
that becomes the theme song. All right, here we go.

(40:55):
James Bond has a problem. See, he accidentally ended up
in ancient Egypt somehow and got mummified in a tomb
for three thousand years. So when Dr knows long lost son,
Dr no No hatched his own evil plan to disrupt
the International Space Station by causing a bank of thrusters
to send it into a spin while blocking all signals

(41:18):
to try and you know reverse that m I six
was without their greatest agent. However, as we all know,
the British are fantastic at taking other people's stuff, and
so in himself um in in this In this version,
m is a guy again is overjoyed to discover that

(41:39):
at a British museum exhibit on the ancient Egyptians, the
very sarcophagus holding James bonds mummified corpse remains on display.
It's right there, and so he sends Q to the
museum check it out. Q, using a gadget that was
intended to zap bad guys by convincing to pull out

(41:59):
a stick of um before electrifying them, manages to reanimate
the mummified Bond. And while Bond doesn't quite have the
mobility he had in life, he's still a heck of
a spy, kind of I mean, honestly, he was never
really a good spy, was he. I mean, after all,
he would introduce himself by name to people without being prompted.

(42:22):
Seems like the kind of thing you would actively avoid
doing if you were a spy. I mean, like, hey,
how are you. I'm James Bond. Oh you mean the
international spy. Well nice chatting with you, but we're done
here anyway, all right, Bond shuffles off to track down
Doctor No No, who he suspects has taken up residents

(42:42):
on crab Key. That's the same island that Dr No
had built a base upon. Generally people avoid that island
because it's radioactive. So, in case you haven't seen Doctor No,
and I'm guessing of our audience hasn't, the bad guy
in that movie sets up his base and has a

(43:02):
nuclear power plant on it, and it provides power to
a radio beam that Dr No was using to jam
signals that were around Project Mercury, which was of course
an early space race project at NASA. But in the end,
James Bond causes a nuclear meltdown and as a result,
everyone evacuated the island because it got radio active. Okay,

(43:23):
So anyway, we next see Bond in full mummy bandages
from head to toe aboard a yacht sailing toward what
we assume is crab Key, and like there's this super
hot Egyptologist woman on board. She's um oh gosh, I
gotta give her a name. Um, her name is Sally
Oh Cyrus. Sally Oh Cyrus, you know, because the James

(43:47):
Bond series tends to be stuck in this whole Bond
girl mentality that really belongs to a different era, but whatever,
and Bond is like, I'll have a martini shaken, not stirred,
but it comes out m m m m m m.
But you know, they all figure it out in the end,
and he gets his martini and then after spending way
too long trying to figure out how he's going to

(44:08):
drink the darn thing because you know, he's covered in
bandages all over, he just ends up pouring it on
top of his head and just lets it soak in
through the bandages. Okay, Anyway, the yacht gets as close
to the island as they dare before their Geiger counters
on board start warning them that if they get any
closer then the living people on board the ship will
receive an unhealthy dose of radiation. So then Bond, because

(44:31):
he's undead, just gets in his special submarine sarcophagus that
Q made. And it's weird that Q had even made
this and it was ready to go before they even rediscovered.
Bond ques into some weird stuff. Anyway, Bond takes the
submersible sarcophagus to the island unseen, and he emerges from
it near the shore and he slogs the rest of
the way up to the beach and what can only

(44:52):
be described as a really pathetic recreation of the beach
scene from the original Doctor Not. He then shuffles off
to the decrepit base on the island, dripping the whole way,
and once there he infiltrates the base, and by infiltrates,
I mean he mostly kind of stumbles through it because
again he's got really limited mobility and visibility. Uh. He

(45:13):
encounters no hnchmen or Hnch women because the place is radioactive,
But he does turn a corner and he comes face
to face with doctor No No. Now dtr No No
is wearing a big, clunky suit and presumably this protects
him from the radiation, and Bond recognizes Doctor No No
right away, saying, you have your father's hands, And sure

(45:35):
enough No No has two mechanical hands that stick out
from the suit. Because if you had seen doctor No
you would know that he also had mechanical hands because
he lost his regular hands due to radiation. Poisoning, so
apparently this was an inherited trait. His son also has
mechanical hands, but none of that really matters because Dr

(45:55):
No No heres for so Dr No No says what,
And what we get is a scene that stretches on
about four minutes too long of James Bond trying to
fire off a witty one liner to Dr No No
and Dr No Nos trying to figure out what the
heck James Bond is, even saying it's kind of like

(46:16):
a really unfunny scene in a later Austin Powers movie. Okay,
that's redundant. It's like a scene in a later Austin
Powers movie. So anyway, this goes on for a while
until we get the slowest, most awkward fight scene from
any of the Bond films, and I am including the
Roger Moore ones. So Bond is stiff, plus you know,

(46:39):
he's a stiff and he's slow, but then so is
Dr No No because he's in this big, bulky suit.
So it's like watching two people in those giants sumo
wrestler inflatable outfits trying to struggle. But eventually Bond is
able to get the upper hand and he rips Dr
No No suit and thus exposes Dr No No to radiation,
which makes him freak out big time. And then Bond

(47:00):
shovels over to the controls and he manages to make
the International Space Station stop spinning, though now it's upside
down and the lights are going off and on like
a disco, but he can't figure out how to fix
that part. So then Bond leaves the island and along
the way he meets up with a hot Egyptologist and
he says something really sexist that for some reason she
finds charming, and the movie ends. I guess the end.

(47:23):
I really enjoyed that my mashups become more of a
diet tribe against whatever it is we're matching up. Listen.
Usually when you do that, it's it's allowable and very entertaining.
So well, thank you. I appreciated the opportunity to go
back and revisit a classic Sean Connery era James Bond film.

(47:47):
Yes that again, I doubt like most of the people
listening to this podcast probably have not seen it. That's
not a judgment, that's just that's just a guess. Like
I don't think I don't think you're a lesser person
not having seen Doctor No, Yeah, I agree, and or
most James Bond movies or any Daniel Craig James Bond
movies either, although I really did like Casino Royal. Yeah,

(48:12):
that one, that one in particular, like it was I mean,
for one thing, it was such a tonal change, Like
it was a very dark and gritty James Bond, which
we had not like there were some of those uh
in the the was it was it the Timothy Dalton
or knows, the pierced brasn and ones that kind of
got pretty dark. But this, this one was going even

(48:33):
further than that. But it worked. Daniel Craig made it work. Yeah,
I agree. Well, if you have an idea of how
a mashup between the Mummy and James Bond could work
that we didn't cover, you should write us and tell
us and if we like it, we'll even read it
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(49:18):
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(49:40):
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And until next time, I am Jonathan Shaken not Stirred
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(50:23):
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