December 16, 2020 • 44 mins
We talk about the massive amount of content promised in the recent Disney Investors meeting, ponder on if there is such a thing as too much Star Wars and explore the multitude of possibilities the next phase of the MCU brings with it. Then we finish it out with a little holiday cheer!
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Speaker 1 (00:07):
The Large Nerdron Collider Podcast is a production of I
Heart Radio. Hey everybody, welcome to The Large Nerdron Collider Podcast,
the podcast that's all about the geeky things happening in
the world around us and how incredibly excited we are
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about him. I'm Ariel casting, and with me, as always,
is font of Disney knowledge and brilliant co host Jonathan Strickland. Hey, Ariel,
I have for you a question. If you could be
in any comic book group, whether Marvel, d c. Whatever,
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you could be a member of a group from comic books,
what group would you want to belong to? Oh? Oh, man, Jonathan.
That's such a hard see because I like, I like
how Marvel treats their their stories and their heroes better.
But I like the camaraderie of the Justice League bat
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Or at least from the old cartoons. But there's a
lot of drama there too. Um. I'm gonna say Guardians
of the Galaxy because it's I don't have to pick
favorites between the other two. And there's been an awful
lot of different versions of Guardians of the Galaxy. I mean,
we're I'm sure most people are familiar with the Cinematic
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Universe version, but in the comics a lot of different
characters have been part of that group at one time
or another. Yeah, but it wasn't a property that I
was personally very familiar with until Disney took ahold of it.
What group would you be a part of? Well, I think, well,
first of all, Ariel, I'm surprised you didn't say you
wanted to be part of cow Girls from Hell or
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Nuns with Good. I mean, really, I want to be
she Hulk, but they've recently cast her so she Yeah,
all right, so I'm out of all the different groups,
I would want to be part of the Great Lakes
Avengers because that's the one that has Squirrel Girl in it,
and I know I would never lose. That is true.
That's very smart planning on your part, Jonathan. I mean,
she she's taken down like Dannis right there. Yeah, although
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top tier villains in Marvel. I mean, it's it's kind
of a running gag. But like, if you don't want
to lose, align yourself with Squirrel Girl. Uh. And the
reason why I asked that question is that we are
really focusing today on the information that came out as
part of Disney Investor Day twenty twenty. I'm sure most
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of you out there who are big fans of Star
Wars and Marvel and Disney you probably heard all about it.
So we're not gonna run down every single announcement because
they were like fifty of them. Instead, we're going to
talk about some of the ones that we found particularly exciting.
And we've divided this up into different segments, So let's
get ready to talk about sort of the Lucas and
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Disney stuff in this first half. So Aerial, you are
not known as a horror aficionado. I'm I am not
a horror officionado. And I know what you're getting at
because the very first story I put in that I
wanted to talk about was the Alien series that's happening
for Hulu. I for me Alien, I guess Aliens more
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so because Alien is more of a horror movie. Aliens
is more of a sci fi movie, sci fi action film. Yeah. Yeah,
Um is one of those that skirts the line enough
between scary and story that I can do it now.
I will say I've tried to watch the more recent
Ridley Scott uh properties in that series, like Prometheus and
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the most the most recent one is that Prometheus, no Alien.
There's another alien film whose name I forget. Yeah, I
think you're right. I think it's Alien Covenant. So I
watched Prometheus in the theaters actually, and I was I
had to cover my eyes, of course. But the very
latest one, I tried to watch it last year with
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a friend of mine, back when we can watch things
with friends and they are a big horror person. They
love it, like they like Saw and things like that,
and I just can't do that sort of that sort
of thing, and they thought it was too much and
we had to turn it off. H That being said,
I'm hoping that the series will hearken more towards the
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original alien movies, the alien movies that I love. It
also really amuses me because back when Disney bought Fox
last year in two thousand nineteen, uh, there was a
whole bunch of joking that, oh they've bought Fox, now
the alien alien can be uh a Disney princess, and
now it seems that any kind of is we We
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heard that same sort of joke about all sorts of
stuff from Anastasia right, who is now on Disney Plus right,
but not a Disney Princess. They have been very clear
about that. Um. Yeah, but that there's been a lot
of jokes about that as well. I'm interested. I heard
that it was supposed to have a kind of tone
somewhere in between the Alien the first Alien film, which
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was more of a tense horror movie, monster movie kind
of thing, and Aliens, which was more of that sci
fi action movie thing. It's supposed to be somewhere kind
of in that spectrum. So I am excited about it.
I will definitely check it out. I subscribe to Hulu,
so I will have to at least give it a try.
The next thing we have before we get into all
things Star Wars as the announcement of what is for
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reals Pinkies promise gonna be the last Indiana Jones movie. Um,
are you at all interested in that? Aerial? Does that?
Is that something that still kind of excites you? Um?
It doesn't excite me. Now that being said, I haven't
seen a whole lot about the new movie. I was
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excited about Crystal Skull. I didn't hate it as much
as some other people did back when it came out,
but I realized that it didn't hold a candle to
the original Indiana Jones movies. Uh I feel obligated to
watch it. I have to finish out this series. I've
watched everything else Indiana Jones, including the TV show The
Young Indiana Jones TV show back when so I Crystal
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Skull did a number on me, I did not like
that movie. Um, I didn't feel like I mean, granted,
each of the Indiana Jones movies has its own tone
and its own voice, like The Raiders Lost Arc has
a very pulpy, you know kind of tone to it,
and then Temple of Doom is much darker. George Lucas
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has frequently said that, probably because he was going through
a nasty divorce at the time. Last Crusade is much
more lighthearted, Like there's a much more adventurous, lighthearted tone
to it, despite the fact that there's some you know,
pretty grizzly things happened in that movie too. And then
Crystal Skull just I don't know it, just I never
I thought that Shila Buff's performance was was pretty good, honestly,
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but the rest of it just didn't click for me.
And uh so I'm kind of curious about this Indiana
Jones movie. I do love the the franchise, but I
don't know this one. I think I'm gonna have to
wait and learn more about it. And I you know,
they say it's the very last one. It'll definitely be
the last one with Harrison Ford, I believe. But I
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wouldn't be surprised if they come out with. Looking at
some of the other things Disney has announced that they're rebooting,
I wouldn't be surprised if we end up with a
reboot in the future. Well, and and just the fact
that every other announcement they have is like, Okay, so
you guys like Star Wars. Here's forty seven things that
we're going to be doing with Star Wars over the
next three years. Yeah. Well, I mean I feel part
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of that is half of the things we're going to
talk about more than half of them are coming to
Disney Plus their series or they're straight to streaming movies.
It's almost like people said, oh, well, we're almost at
the end of season two of Mandalorian and my free
trial of Disney Plus is over, so I don't need
it anymore, and they're like, but wait, here's all this content. Yeah, well,
and let's let's talk a bit about the stuff that
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gets us excited and has got a lot of people talking.
Is that there was no mention of Ryan Johnson's previously
announced Star Wars trilogy. He was the one who directed
Episode eight and had had been in a deal to
direct a trilogy of Star Wars films that had not
been titled. There was no indication of where it was
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going to fit within the overall Star Wars universe or timeline.
But in an event where there was a tremendous amount
of Star Wars material notion of him, which makes a
lot of people wonder, is he in fact on the outs?
Is that trilogy scuttled? I have no idea, obviously, I
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hope not. I was really looking forward. Ran Johnson has
this great way of creating relationship in a movie For
people who are not as familiar with the name he
might be familiar with his works. Beyond doing the second
of the new Star Wars trilogy, he also did Knives
Out recently. He was also Yeah, he was also the
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director of a drug high school noir called Brick Back
in the Day and some other movies. Those are the
ones I'm most familiar with. So he just has this
really great way of like building characters and building relationships,
and I was looking forward to that in Star Wars
in Star Wars, not that Star Wars does a bad
job of that, but that I liked what he did.
If it hadn't been within the trilogy of Star Wars films,
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I would have liked it more. That's almost a sentence,
you can part. We know that Taiko hit TV is
going to be doing some Star Wars movies, which is
he Disney is putting that man to work because he's
also directing uh A four sequel and he of course
directed the last four film as well, So busy dude.
And then we have the other announced film, Rogue Squadron,
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directed by Patty Jenkins who directed the Wonder Woman films.
So who is the first woman to direct a Star
Wars movie. Yeah, long overdue. Um. Yeah, I'm excited to
see kind of what develops out of that. But out
of all the different series, we're not going to run
down all of them, But are there any in those
that really kind of jump out at you as something
that you're excited to see, or any that you're just like,
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I have no interest whatsoever. Well, honestly, a lot of them.
It is a lot of Star Wars. I think it
will be too a lot of Star Wars to ingest.
I think I'm really excited to see how Vision's works,
which is taking Japanese anime creators and creating a Star
Wars galaxy through short films, kind of like the Animatrix
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in Animatrix or Memories. Uh. Of course, I have to
like Lando, and then I think Acolyte because it's it's
even though I like to consider myself light side, it's
focusing more on the dark side of things, and it's
being done by the Russian Doll creator. Russian Doll was
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a series on Netflix about a woman who kept dying.
It's a little cross I would I would, you know,
crass is not your thing. It's maybe not for you,
but it was a really They handled it really well
and they wrote it in a really interesting way, and
I like to see that dark quirky brought to this
dark side. So I think those are my favorite What
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are my my favorites? Just by announcement, what are yours? Well?
You know it's it's funny because, like I have said
before and you will hear it in other episodes, that
I'm a Star Wars fan who has still never seen
episode nine because they kind of lost me, and which
is sad because I was I mean, like I was
growing up in the seventies and eighties. I owned like
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every Star Wars toy. There was huge Star Wars fan
but I kind of fell off. Really. The prequels were
what hit me on one of those stereotypical people. I
just don't like the prequels and I'm not a huge
fan of the sequels um and And I just said,
you know what, the original Trilly trilogy I still love,
and I'm just gonna love those and that's fine. Everyone
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else can love what they want to love, and that's awesome.
That being said, in these announcements, there were two that
caught my eye in particular, and one of those was
oddly enough. One of those was Lando, because despite all
my best efforts, I couldn't find any actual sizzle footage
of Lando. There were it was always the It always
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blacked out for that part, so it may have been
on the call, but it was not anything I could find.
But but especially if if Glover's playing Lando, I definitely
want to see it. And then the other one was
um and Or the Spy Thriller because even though I
wasn't a huge fan of uh Rogue one. That character
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I thought was kind of interesting and to do sort
of this undercover spy thriller series that in the Star
Wars universe, that's kind of interesting to me. I'm a
little curious about obi Wan, but that one I'm a
little I'm a little shaky on. I love you and McGregor.
I love his take on obi Wan. I don't mind
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hiding Christensen. I think that he was given a raw
deal due to like the way that those films were directed.
And he's done some great work outside of the Star
Wars universe, so I know he's a great actor. Um
But and we know he's coming back as Vader, which
is why I even mentioned it. I don't I don't
really know that I need to see more story where
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obi Wan Invader have a lot more interaction. Um maybe,
Like I honestly feel like the interactions I needed to
see in the movies would have been more of the
stuff between obi Wan and Anakin forming a really close friendship,
because I felt like the stuff we got in the
movies kind of skipped over all the stuff where they
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became friends and they just said, oh, they're friends now.
I'm like, but but how did that happen? So that's
that's kind of a bummer. But also people age, so
it's a little harder to do. But yeah, those are
those are the ones that I'm kind of interested in.
The others, I mean, all of them look great, like,
all of them look like people have done phenomenal work
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on them. I don't want to I don't want to
take anything away from those. They just didn't grab me
as inn as a way of saying, you have absolutely
got to check this out. There's there's something about a
work of art when they like with and or where
we don't have a whole lot of details about the
plot of the story or the characters, yet uh where
you watch the people and there's such a dedication to
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it and there's such an excitement about it that you
can't help but be a little bit excited for it. Yeah,
and um Diego Luna is just such a charismatic person
that I'm I really want I want to see a
series with him. Yeah, yeah, me too. And then they
announced a bunch of other stuff that we'll just go
through really quickly, a bunch of Pixar things that are
coming out like a long form musical comedy series about Milana,
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which I'm all about, Awaju, which I'm not sure if
I'm pronouncing correctly, which is a science fiction African comic
book series. Um. They've talked about some of their movies
coming straight to demand along with the theaters for an
extra cost um light Year, which is going to bring
another another Marvel actor over into the Disney fold. Chris
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Evans is voicing light Year, the character that the buzz
Light Your Toy was supposed to be based off of. Yeah,
it's an origin story from I do want to see
a Disney movie where Chris Evans has to confront all
the various versions of himself throughout Disney. Uh, we'll get
to that. But then they announced them that well when
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it was confusing because they put him in with all
the Star Wars stuff like Willow. I saw all of
these Star Wars titles announced in this this graphic and
then there was Willow and Children of Blood and Bone.
Children is a young adult novel. Yeah, a Nigerian novel,
kind of kind of Harry Pottery from what I understand,
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and then Willow, you know is but it made me think, well,
parts of the land and Willow do look like Endoor?
So are they saying that Brownies are related to Ewah?
Lucas Lucas was the guy behind producing Willow, So that's
why Willow is in there because it was a Lucas
film project. Um, and I have a an affinity for
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it because I have a niece named after a character
from Willow. So to me like this is I think
I'm really looking forward to. There are also a ton
of announcements about lots of other stuff. UM Hocus Pocus,
to which we knew was in development already, sister Act,
Peter Pan and Wendy, UM, live Action, Pinocchio, lots and
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lots of stuff. But you've probably seen plenty of pieces
on that. So rather than go through all that, we're
gonna take a quick break and come back and put
on our superhero capes. So we'll see you right after this,
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all right. So the other third half, somewhere around their
announcement from the Disney Investors meeting was all about the
m c U. Um, we know that going into this
new phase after endgame of m CU movies are opening
up the multiverse, which is opening up a multitude of possibilities.
That's just when I think it was part of what
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propelled Jonathan and I to say, oh, we need to
make this episode one even though this announcement happened last week,
because as we talked about it, we got exceptionally excited
about a few possibilities that they're now opening up. So yeah,
so this, this is this is crazy because you ask
where do you go after end Game? And not just
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with the the stories that unfolded within the m c
U so far, with certain characters being gone gone or
at least seemingly gone, like Vision seems to be gone gone,
but he's back back, at least in some form, and
then you know, Captain America spoiler alert if you haven't
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watched End Game yet, Captain America's gone, and uh, you know,
you sit there and think also the tragedy, real life
tragedy of Chadwick Boseman passing away and what that means,
because one of the things they did they actually ended
their segment talking about they gave a tribute to him
and said that he was so inspirational and instrumental that
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they were not going to recast the role of Challa,
which means that the Black Panther is going to be
a different, different character will be taking up that mantle. Sure,
he is the one that most people say. His sister
are the ones that most people say. It's probably the
most likely. But I've heard some other concepts thrown around
as well. But the reason why the multiverse is kind
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of exciting is that one, it opens up the pops
possibility of really really weird stories. And we've kind of
gotten hints of that with the first Doctor Strange movie,
which dipped its toe in there, and the ant Man movies,
which in the quantum world kind of dips its toe
in that area, and then Spider Man Far from Home.
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They played with the idea with j Jonah Jameson at
the end, you know you get the j So yeah,
they when you pull in an actor who has played
a character but played for a different incarnation of the
the superhero played by a different actor with a different
origin story, all this kind of stuff, you start to say, like,
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was that just you know, kind of a wink and
a nod to fans, or is this an indication of
some sort of multiverse link? And it could go either way, right,
it could just be no, we just think that's cute,
Like it could be like the Schwarm a scene at
the end of the first Avengers movie, like it doesn't
mean anything, it's just there. It could be that there's
a j Jonah Jamison in every single or or that
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version of j Jonah Jamison transcends right versus universes. But
we're seeing already that with the announcement of the different
properties of Marvel, that there is this kind of interdimensional
and inter temporal connectivity because you've got the low Key
series which has the t v A in it and
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watches the time variants. Is the Time Variance Authority, which
which is create It's it's an authority that monitors all
of the different timelines and then can eradicate timelines that
are problematic or dangerous, which is a great thing for
Marvel to introduce into their storyline because that means if
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they have a property that fails, they can go the
type TV is cutting it. Yeah, it's it's it's a
it's done as in the comics. It's done like it's
just a enormous bureaucracy, like it's like the biggest government
office you've ever seen, and not in a shield cool way,
like it's done as if it's like the most boring
kind of job in the world that you're having to
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look at all the different realities and all the different timelines.
So so you've got that concept that low key thing
is already tapping into it. One division the series that
has uh, the Scarlet Witch and Vision in it that
clearly is set in some sort of reality that is manufactured,
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whether it's you know, a villain has placed people into
a virtual reality in their own minds, or maybe the
Scarlet which is kind of retreated into her own mind
after dealing with the loss of her her her loved vision. Um. Yeah,
in the comics, this this story that aligns with this
what we know about the TV show, she kind of
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goes insane and tries to recreate all that she's lost.
She being Disney, I suspect it will be a little
bit happier she I mean, it's possible she could maybe
she could come become the big bad because Scarlet, which
becomes like a serious villain for a while in that storyline.
But I don't think she'll be the big bag this phase.
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Possibly not. I mean, it's kind of hard to draw
some conclusions, at least for me. Maybe you have better
insight into it than I do. But we also know
that Doctor Strange is that has the Madness of the
Multiverse in its title, so we know that that's going
to take part of this, so it ties into it.
And we know that the Villain and Antman and the
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Wasp uh in the Quantum Verse story is going to
be Kang the Conqueror, and Kang the Conqueror in the
comic books is this time traveling super villain who is
constantly trying to conquer modern day Earth for some reason.
I don't understand what his motivations are, Doctor, but yeah,
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when you can literally be in any time, in any
place while you're focusing on modern day Earth, I don't know.
I guess we're super special. But but King the Conqueror
he does have a tragic sort of backstory too, and
we know that that's going to be one of the
He's going to be the Villain and ant Man and
the Wasp, and that also ties into the multiverse and
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time time travel. So we're looking at all these different possibilities,
and we know the in Spider Man three, we're gonna
have various incarnations of Spiderman actors who have played Spiderman
and other franchises showing up. Yeah, and and know that
Dr Strange is going to be in one division and
he's going to be in Spiderman three, and then Wanda
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is going to be in Doctor Strange. Uh So it's
interesting to me because uh and I'll get back to
Spiderman three about this. When we started into the m
c U and we ended up getting Agents of Shield,
they said, well, these stories are going to stay different.
And now they're starting to integrate their TV shows with
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their movies, and I feel like it's all going to
tie together and you're gonna have to watch one to
watch the other, which I think is a great marketing
scheme if you don't get burnt out on it. Yeah, no,
it's it kind of makes me think. So the way
I see this all starting is way back in the
day when Blair Witch Project came out. This is not
Marvel obviously, but Blair Witch Project was a standalone film,
the original Blair Witch Project standalone film that you could
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watch and you could you know, it would be creepy
and you could get, you know, a decent experience out
of it. But there was this incredible oundwork of backstory
that was online on the Blair Witch Project website that
continued to build upon this concept that this was a
real found footage film, like the footage was actually real stuff,
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and treated it all as if it were real events,
and it just elevated everything if you happen to have
put in the work. If you did it, you can
still have a good experience in the movie, but you
wouldn't get as much out of it. I feel like
it's similar to this. I'm hoping that each intrigue can
be standalone so that you don't have to have seen
something else for something to make sense, but that if
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you see it all, it just makes a much bigger
picture that is much more satisfying. Jessey has done a
pretty good job at that in the past. The thing
that I'm so excited about with all of this, though,
is that they aren't denying all of the other iterations
like we talked about, So we do have all of
these old Spider Man's but we're also getting Charlie Cox
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as Daredevil from the Netflix Defenders series, which everybody was
really sad when Disney Plus came out and Netflix Heidy
canceled their Defender series. Some people were sad. I was sad,
I have I have a, I have a possibility to
pose to you, Ariel. So we have heard that Charlie
Cox is at least rumored to be in Spider Man three,
so we assumed that Daredevil's showing up there. Hopefully that
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means Luke Cage to one of the yes uh and
and Jones to Jessica Jones like Turk character too. Uh.
The only one that kind of gets left out of
Iron Fist because that just didn't work so well. But
at the end of the second season. That's the thing.
At the end of the second season of Iron Fist,
and I'll keep this brief, he and his brother get
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drunk and go on hijinks, and I'm like, that's the
show I wanted to watch for the last two seasons.
Why are you stopping it here? Well, the question I
was going to pose to you, or the scenario is
going to pose to you. Is that one of the
series that they announced. Another one that we had heard
about but we got a little more detail is She Hulk.
And then you know the character of She Hulk, her
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alter ego is a lawyer and she specializes in cases
that have to do with superheroes. So there could be
an episode of She Hulk where she's going up against
Matt Murdoch, the secret identity of Daredevil, who's also an attorney.
He could show because they said you should expect to
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see other heroes show up in the She Hulks series.
We know that we know that Mark Ruffalo is going
to be in it. We know that Tim Roth as
the Abomination is coming back for that series. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
it'll be Law and Order m c U and and
we're running out of time. But I did want to
bring up one other thing that Ariel and I talked
about just as we were kind of basking in the
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wake of all these announcements, which is that they're bringing
back Fantastic Four. So we're getting another Fantastic Four film,
and we don't know yet what what form that's gonna take.
We uh, we know that the director of of of
Spider Man Far from Home is directing Fantastic Four. But
the interesting thing to me is that we were talking about,
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is this going to be yet another origin story? Are
we going to get another version of Fantastic Four? Because
technically this would be the fourth film version since the nineties,
the first one being the produced but never officially released
Roger Corman film, which I argue is still the best
Fantastic Four movie that's been done so far. I would
agree with you, And and that is taking into account
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how cheesy it is. I think it's actually perfect the
way it is, how cheesy it is. And then we
have the other two more modern interpretations of Fantastic four
that came out. Since then, is it going to be
yet another version with new actors playing those parts? But
with all this multiverse stuff, Ariel brought up the fact
that maybe we could even see different incarnations of the
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Fantastic Four and different actors who play these characters. And
that leads us to a truly in same mind blowing possibility, yes,
which is, after they established their version of fanta Asking four,
they bring in the multiverse of Fantastic four, which means
that we get Chris Evans as the human Torch and
we get Michael B. Jordan's and they're also both they
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have both played characters other characters in the m c U.
Because Chris Evans is obviously Captain America, Michael B. Jordan's
kill Monger, So you suddenly have the possibility of having
like and it feeds right into the multiverse. Two That's
the thing is that you could do this. It would
be crazy, it would be weird, but it also is
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thematic with the multi verse. Yes, I would love it,
which brings me back to Chris Evans having a movie
where he has to deal with all the various versions
of himself. Maybe it could even be met it. It It
could actually be Chris Evans having to deal with Captain
America and the human Torch and buzz light ear and
and I maybe his character from Scott Pilgrim because he
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was a comic book character there too. Yeah. Yeah, And
I would say that Michael B. Jordan would join him
on the adventure because he's in a similar boat exception
of the fact. And then it becomes too close to
Falcon and which your soldier, which again it's tied to
Captain America, and it's just and this is all before
we even have to say the name Ryan Reynolds, which
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makes it so much more complicated because he's been heroes
with both Marvel and d C. So so this is
I mean, obviously we haven't touched on all the different announcements.
I have to admit that there are other ones, like
I'm way more excited about the Marvel stuff than I
am with the Star Wars stuff. I want to see
iron Heart. I want to see I want to see
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Miss Marvel definitely. I'm really excited about that one. I
want to see she a Hulk, Yeah, because they cast
Tatiana Muslani in it, who's from Orphan Black, so she's
got all of this experience playing multiple versions of the
same character. I want to see Moon Night. I'm really
curious about how they're going to handle that character. Um.
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I want to see Secret Invasion with Nick Fury and
tell Us And I think we both Ariel and I agree,
And it's not just because of the time of year,
but I think we both agree that obviously the pinnacle
of their work is going to be The Guardians of
the Galaxy Holiday Special, which is I could not anticipate
something more. And I'm only being a little snarky about that. Yeah, yeah,
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it better have groups singing holiday classics. Yes, I am
grout and just done it different tunes that would be amazing. Yes, well, yes,
I am groot, I am I am Grood. Well, you
know what, now that we're talking about singing Christmas songs,
I think it's a good time for us to to
take a quick break and when we come back, we
can have our large nerd drunk collider mash up. So yeah, yeah,
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I'm gonna tell you this had nothing to do with
current news. I guess. I guess one of our properties
is coming out with the sequel or reboot or soft
reboot soon, is the news ish. But the other one
is just because I know that it's getting close to
the holiday time and this mash up abuse me. So
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we're doing Routolf the Red Nose Reindeer meets Gremlins. Gremlins
is the one that's getting the soft reboot, uh sequel.
So if you're not familiar with rutof the Red Nose Reindeer,
he's somehow you haven't seen television since the nineties seventies. Listen, listen.
Some some people may not celebrate Christmas. So he's he's
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one of Santa's reindeer with a bright, shiny nose that
leads the sleigh through all of the snow and sleet.
There's a wonderful claimation old movie about it that for
me just holds up forever and ever and ever where.
It's the cutest thing. And he's got kind of like
a little like stuffy nose, sort of a voice, and
I absolutely love it. It's because they've coated his nose
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with yeah, so that so so that he's got those
dogs like this. And of course, the the Center for
Puppetry Arts here in Atlanta has a licensed uh production
of this where they have puppets that are designed to
look just like the characters from that original special. Like
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they are all designed so that you can see these
in three dimensions. And I know that very well because
my sister has performed in it numerous times. She's been Rudolph.
So pretty cool. Yeah, they're fantastic. It's it's like it's
like I'm I'm I'm a relative of a celebrity. So yes,
that's you know, do you call the most famous Rengeer
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of all, Sure you do. Gremlins. Gremlins is a kind
of I think of Get Gremlins as a gateway horror
movie because it's it's it's not super scary, but it's
got some intense moments. Yeah, it's some intense moment and
some gross out stuff too, Like there's some there's some
gross things that happened in that movie. Yes, yes, it's
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I had to I had to muster some courage to
get through Gremlins. I love Gremlins, but it's definitely one
of those ones where it's even still like Jurassic Parking,
Jaws don't touch me, everybody, you can judge me. It's fine.
I realized I still have to watch parts of it
kind of cloth covering my eyes, even though I know
what's going to happen, just because I still get I
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still get that anxiousness. You can get pulled into them,
You get pulled into the movie. That's a good thing. Yeah, yeah,
So Gremlins is a story about a young man who
gets a gift from his dad, his crazy inventor dad,
who finds this exotic animal in a market and it
turns out it's a maguai and the magway is sensitive delight,
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can't can't let sunlight hit or it'll kill it. Um,
you're not supposed to get it wet. You're not supposed
to feed it after midnight. And he finds out what
happens when all of those things happen, which includes and
it gets wet, they multiply, and then if they eat
after midnight, which is a problem story element if ever
there were one, because it's always after midnight. But if
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they eat after midnight, then they turn into these the
gremlin creators, the the really evil, destructive, malicious critters. And
so now we're gonna mash those two together. Yes, do
you want to go first or shall I? I'm gonna
say that you're gonna want to go first. Okay, okay, okay.
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So Santa needs some new reindeer to pull his sleigh.
You know, he always has the young and upcoming crew,
but he just he needed to get some more reindeers.
So he goes to the local North Pole Sligh and
Tractor Supply store, which also happens to sell antiques, you know, uh,
to pick up these reindeers. I don't know if people know,
but tract your supply stores usually sell like baby chickens,
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so it makes sense at a north Pole one would
sell baby reindeers. Go with it, Okay, but this batch
of reindeer is different than any previous batches he has
ever seen a reindeer when he has had to go
to the North Pole Sligh and Tractor Supply store and
antique dealership. Um, the owner of the store tries to
sell Santa, don't buy these. Stick to your current dear,
Dasher and Dancer will do fine this year and we'll
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get you new ones next year. But Santa sees this
one in the middle of the pack who's got a bright,
shiny nose, and insists on taking it home. The shop owner,
who's like, who am I to argue with Santa right,
says fine, whatever, just whatever you do, don't don't feed them. Uh,
don't feed them after Christmas Eve eve? Okay, So don't
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feed them after yes, don't do it. Santa laughs into
ho ho and takes them home, ampletely forgetting a warning. Uh,
that's until he gives the reindeer their pre flight meal. Now,
you don't want to feed reindeer on Christmas Eve when
they have to fly, because it will give them cramps,
much like eating before swimming. You don't want to go
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eating before flying, right, So he feeds them before settling
them up. That's it, hardness. Now I have a picture
of Santa riding a riding a reindeer with a lasso.
I'm sure that happens in Texas. Okay. So um, the
flight is choppier than normal, and Santa doesn't know why
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until they land at their first stop, which is Kingston Town.
I think that's the town in Gremlins. All of a sudden,
I can't remember so until they just make scratch, until
they just make their first stop, right, Okay, when all
of a sudden, all the deer's except for the Red
Nose one turn into a bombinable snowmen. Uh, it's a bumble.
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It's so bumbles, tons of bumbles, tons of angry, ferocious,
destructive bumbles, which makes such a noise that wake all
the children of the town, who then team up with
Santa to make a giant cage out of their erector
sets and use the Red Nose reindeer Rudolf to lure
all the rampaging snowmen in saving the town. Unfortunately, that
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causes such like a weight on the earth that the
erector set full of abominable snow men fall into the
earth and get covered with all of the Christmas snow,
which leads into the sequel for the next year, Reindeer
Games After Midnight to um. But that is a mash
up for a future day that also reminds me of
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a horror movie I saw where the Santa Claus character
is this more like a Crampus style character, And I
can't remember was It's something Delivery. It was a foreign
film and truly horrific. But you're ending reminded me like
that could have been the prequel to the movie I
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saw there was the horror movie. It could also be
the prequel to it for all I know. All right, well,
here's my version. Now. My version is more of a
mashup of Rudolph Rednez Reindeer and Gremlins too, and we
didn't talk about Gremlins too. It is a very interesting
sequel in that it takes a very different approach to
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tone and jokes from the first film. The first film
was a horror comedy. The second film is more of
a comedy comedy with elements of horror in it. But um,
that's all you need to know. And here comes my
version and my apologies because you already had to hear
me sing for episode one. So here we go. You know,
Grimlin and Gremlin and Gremlin and Gremlin, Gremlin and Grimlin
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and Mohawk and Gremlin. But do you recall the most
famous gremlin of all, brain Gremlin, the brainy Gremlin, Gremlin, Gremlin, Gremlin,
Magua Gremlin, Gremlin Gremlin. They had a snack after midnight
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to get that water away from Gremlin or we will
have more gremlin soon. Then the Gremlins Gremlin, you're gremlin, Gremlin.
Then I'll finish out this tune. Then one foggy Gremlin,
Eve brain Gremlin came to say, gremlin with your skin
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so green, let's bite Gizmo in this scene, than how
the Gremlins gremlin as they gremlin out with glee brain Gremlin,
the brainy Gremlin. We hope you're back for grim Lens three.
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That's my that's my mashup. That went on way longer
than I expected I did. I did the whole song
and not nearly as long as it deserved. That I
wasn't able to work in like any of the other characters.
So here's the true story behind that mashup. I don't
usually do this, but for this mashup, I thought, oh,
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it'd be fun to do a a parody of Rudolph
the Red Nose Reindeer, but use different gremlin names. The
Gremlins don't typically get names. You get usually like one
gremlin will be known as something like Stripe. That was
the bad guy from the first Gremlins movie and the
second one. You have um or I guess maybe stripe.
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Stripe was the mohawk. Mohawk is the second one. Um,
mohawk is essentially stripe. But again, and then but you
had like brain Gremlin, and then occasionally you'll get descriptors
like in Gremlin or bat Gremlin, but you don't they
don't have names, like Gizmo the Magway gets a name,
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but the other characters typically don't. So um So when
it came to name all the gremlins, all I can
do is just say gremlin. And then I was like, well,
I'm just gonna double down on this joke. Brilliant, brilliant,
and even more brilliant now that you've explained it. No,
it was no, it was hilarious. I felt good about
my my mash up. But then you came out with
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that Jonathan, Well, I mean, I promised they won't all
be musical. So there's that. Listen you find it funny.
We don't know what our listeners think it, but we
do want to know what you think, both about the
stuff that's going on in the gegosphere in general, what
your mashup of Rudolph the Red Nose Reindeer and gremlins
would look like and more like, what are some other
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things that we should mash together in future episodes? And
you can do that by reaching out to us on
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We will check those. If you send a d M,
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look at what you send us, and if we like
what you send us, we'll even read it on the show.
So we look forward to hearing from you. We also
want to give us special thanks to our producer Tari,
who took our our hodgepudge little idea and made it
super baller. Yeah. So our ideas were like the Lions
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and Voltron, and then Tari took all the lions and
jammed them together to make Voltron, which is kind of
like the whole concept of the show to begin with.
So it's a great fit. So Tari, thank you so much. Yeah,
and until next time, I'm aerial casting. I am Jonathan Stripling. Yeah.
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about him. I'm Ariel casting, and with me, as always,
is font of Disney knowledge and brilliant co host Jonathan Strickland. Hey, Ariel,
I have for you a question. If you could be
in any comic book group, whether Marvel, d c. Whatever,
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you could be a member of a group from comic books,
what group would you want to belong to? Oh? Oh, man, Jonathan.
That's such a hard see because I like, I like
how Marvel treats their their stories and their heroes better.
But I like the camaraderie of the Justice League bat
(01:17):
Or at least from the old cartoons. But there's a
lot of drama there too. Um. I'm gonna say Guardians
of the Galaxy because it's I don't have to pick
favorites between the other two. And there's been an awful
lot of different versions of Guardians of the Galaxy. I mean,
we're I'm sure most people are familiar with the Cinematic
(01:37):
Universe version, but in the comics a lot of different
characters have been part of that group at one time
or another. Yeah, but it wasn't a property that I
was personally very familiar with until Disney took ahold of it.
What group would you be a part of? Well, I think, well,
first of all, Ariel, I'm surprised you didn't say you
wanted to be part of cow Girls from Hell or
(02:00):
Nuns with Good. I mean, really, I want to be
she Hulk, but they've recently cast her so she Yeah,
all right, so I'm out of all the different groups,
I would want to be part of the Great Lakes
Avengers because that's the one that has Squirrel Girl in it,
and I know I would never lose. That is true.
That's very smart planning on your part, Jonathan. I mean,
she she's taken down like Dannis right there. Yeah, although
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top tier villains in Marvel. I mean, it's it's kind
of a running gag. But like, if you don't want
to lose, align yourself with Squirrel Girl. Uh. And the
reason why I asked that question is that we are
really focusing today on the information that came out as
part of Disney Investor Day twenty twenty. I'm sure most
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of you out there who are big fans of Star
Wars and Marvel and Disney you probably heard all about it.
So we're not gonna run down every single announcement because
they were like fifty of them. Instead, we're going to
talk about some of the ones that we found particularly exciting.
And we've divided this up into different segments, So let's
get ready to talk about sort of the Lucas and
(03:08):
Disney stuff in this first half. So Aerial, you are
not known as a horror aficionado. I'm I am not
a horror officionado. And I know what you're getting at
because the very first story I put in that I
wanted to talk about was the Alien series that's happening
for Hulu. I for me Alien, I guess Aliens more
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so because Alien is more of a horror movie. Aliens
is more of a sci fi movie, sci fi action film. Yeah. Yeah,
Um is one of those that skirts the line enough
between scary and story that I can do it now.
I will say I've tried to watch the more recent
Ridley Scott uh properties in that series, like Prometheus and
(04:00):
the most the most recent one is that Prometheus, no Alien.
There's another alien film whose name I forget. Yeah, I
think you're right. I think it's Alien Covenant. So I
watched Prometheus in the theaters actually, and I was I
had to cover my eyes, of course. But the very
latest one, I tried to watch it last year with
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a friend of mine, back when we can watch things
with friends and they are a big horror person. They
love it, like they like Saw and things like that,
and I just can't do that sort of that sort
of thing, and they thought it was too much and
we had to turn it off. H That being said,
I'm hoping that the series will hearken more towards the
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original alien movies, the alien movies that I love. It
also really amuses me because back when Disney bought Fox
last year in two thousand nineteen, uh, there was a
whole bunch of joking that, oh they've bought Fox, now
the alien alien can be uh a Disney princess, and
now it seems that any kind of is we We
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heard that same sort of joke about all sorts of
stuff from Anastasia right, who is now on Disney Plus right,
but not a Disney Princess. They have been very clear
about that. Um. Yeah, but that there's been a lot
of jokes about that as well. I'm interested. I heard
that it was supposed to have a kind of tone
somewhere in between the Alien the first Alien film, which
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was more of a tense horror movie, monster movie kind
of thing, and Aliens, which was more of that sci
fi action movie thing. It's supposed to be somewhere kind
of in that spectrum. So I am excited about it.
I will definitely check it out. I subscribe to Hulu,
so I will have to at least give it a try.
The next thing we have before we get into all
things Star Wars as the announcement of what is for
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reals Pinkies promise gonna be the last Indiana Jones movie. Um,
are you at all interested in that? Aerial? Does that?
Is that something that still kind of excites you? Um?
It doesn't excite me. Now that being said, I haven't
seen a whole lot about the new movie. I was
(06:10):
excited about Crystal Skull. I didn't hate it as much
as some other people did back when it came out,
but I realized that it didn't hold a candle to
the original Indiana Jones movies. Uh I feel obligated to
watch it. I have to finish out this series. I've
watched everything else Indiana Jones, including the TV show The
Young Indiana Jones TV show back when so I Crystal
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Skull did a number on me, I did not like
that movie. Um, I didn't feel like I mean, granted,
each of the Indiana Jones movies has its own tone
and its own voice, like The Raiders Lost Arc has
a very pulpy, you know kind of tone to it,
and then Temple of Doom is much darker. George Lucas
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has frequently said that, probably because he was going through
a nasty divorce at the time. Last Crusade is much
more lighthearted, Like there's a much more adventurous, lighthearted tone
to it, despite the fact that there's some you know,
pretty grizzly things happened in that movie too. And then
Crystal Skull just I don't know it, just I never
I thought that Shila Buff's performance was was pretty good, honestly,
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but the rest of it just didn't click for me.
And uh so I'm kind of curious about this Indiana
Jones movie. I do love the the franchise, but I
don't know this one. I think I'm gonna have to
wait and learn more about it. And I you know,
they say it's the very last one. It'll definitely be
the last one with Harrison Ford, I believe. But I
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wouldn't be surprised if they come out with. Looking at
some of the other things Disney has announced that they're rebooting,
I wouldn't be surprised if we end up with a
reboot in the future. Well, and and just the fact
that every other announcement they have is like, Okay, so
you guys like Star Wars. Here's forty seven things that
we're going to be doing with Star Wars over the
next three years. Yeah. Well, I mean I feel part
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of that is half of the things we're going to
talk about more than half of them are coming to
Disney Plus their series or they're straight to streaming movies.
It's almost like people said, oh, well, we're almost at
the end of season two of Mandalorian and my free
trial of Disney Plus is over, so I don't need
it anymore, and they're like, but wait, here's all this content. Yeah, well,
and let's let's talk a bit about the stuff that
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gets us excited and has got a lot of people talking.
Is that there was no mention of Ryan Johnson's previously
announced Star Wars trilogy. He was the one who directed
Episode eight and had had been in a deal to
direct a trilogy of Star Wars films that had not
been titled. There was no indication of where it was
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going to fit within the overall Star Wars universe or timeline.
But in an event where there was a tremendous amount
of Star Wars material notion of him, which makes a
lot of people wonder, is he in fact on the outs?
Is that trilogy scuttled? I have no idea, obviously, I
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hope not. I was really looking forward. Ran Johnson has
this great way of creating relationship in a movie For
people who are not as familiar with the name he
might be familiar with his works. Beyond doing the second
of the new Star Wars trilogy, he also did Knives
Out recently. He was also Yeah, he was also the
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director of a drug high school noir called Brick Back
in the Day and some other movies. Those are the
ones I'm most familiar with. So he just has this
really great way of like building characters and building relationships,
and I was looking forward to that in Star Wars
in Star Wars, not that Star Wars does a bad
job of that, but that I liked what he did.
If it hadn't been within the trilogy of Star Wars films,
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I would have liked it more. That's almost a sentence,
you can part. We know that Taiko hit TV is
going to be doing some Star Wars movies, which is
he Disney is putting that man to work because he's
also directing uh A four sequel and he of course
directed the last four film as well, So busy dude.
And then we have the other announced film, Rogue Squadron,
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directed by Patty Jenkins who directed the Wonder Woman films.
So who is the first woman to direct a Star
Wars movie. Yeah, long overdue. Um. Yeah, I'm excited to
see kind of what develops out of that. But out
of all the different series, we're not going to run
down all of them, But are there any in those
that really kind of jump out at you as something
that you're excited to see, or any that you're just like,
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I have no interest whatsoever. Well, honestly, a lot of them.
It is a lot of Star Wars. I think it
will be too a lot of Star Wars to ingest.
I think I'm really excited to see how Vision's works,
which is taking Japanese anime creators and creating a Star
Wars galaxy through short films, kind of like the Animatrix
(11:01):
in Animatrix or Memories. Uh. Of course, I have to
like Lando, and then I think Acolyte because it's it's
even though I like to consider myself light side, it's
focusing more on the dark side of things, and it's
being done by the Russian Doll creator. Russian Doll was
(11:24):
a series on Netflix about a woman who kept dying.
It's a little cross I would I would, you know,
crass is not your thing. It's maybe not for you,
but it was a really They handled it really well
and they wrote it in a really interesting way, and
I like to see that dark quirky brought to this
dark side. So I think those are my favorite What
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are my my favorites? Just by announcement, what are yours? Well?
You know it's it's funny because, like I have said
before and you will hear it in other episodes, that
I'm a Star Wars fan who has still never seen
episode nine because they kind of lost me, and which
is sad because I was I mean, like I was
growing up in the seventies and eighties. I owned like
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every Star Wars toy. There was huge Star Wars fan
but I kind of fell off. Really. The prequels were
what hit me on one of those stereotypical people. I
just don't like the prequels and I'm not a huge
fan of the sequels um and And I just said,
you know what, the original Trilly trilogy I still love,
and I'm just gonna love those and that's fine. Everyone
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else can love what they want to love, and that's awesome.
That being said, in these announcements, there were two that
caught my eye in particular, and one of those was
oddly enough. One of those was Lando, because despite all
my best efforts, I couldn't find any actual sizzle footage
of Lando. There were it was always the It always
(12:50):
blacked out for that part, so it may have been
on the call, but it was not anything I could find.
But but especially if if Glover's playing Lando, I definitely
want to see it. And then the other one was
um and Or the Spy Thriller because even though I
wasn't a huge fan of uh Rogue one. That character
(13:14):
I thought was kind of interesting and to do sort
of this undercover spy thriller series that in the Star
Wars universe, that's kind of interesting to me. I'm a
little curious about obi Wan, but that one I'm a
little I'm a little shaky on. I love you and McGregor.
I love his take on obi Wan. I don't mind
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hiding Christensen. I think that he was given a raw
deal due to like the way that those films were directed.
And he's done some great work outside of the Star
Wars universe, so I know he's a great actor. Um
But and we know he's coming back as Vader, which
is why I even mentioned it. I don't I don't
really know that I need to see more story where
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obi Wan Invader have a lot more interaction. Um maybe,
Like I honestly feel like the interactions I needed to
see in the movies would have been more of the
stuff between obi Wan and Anakin forming a really close friendship,
because I felt like the stuff we got in the
movies kind of skipped over all the stuff where they
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became friends and they just said, oh, they're friends now.
I'm like, but but how did that happen? So that's
that's kind of a bummer. But also people age, so
it's a little harder to do. But yeah, those are
those are the ones that I'm kind of interested in.
The others, I mean, all of them look great, like,
all of them look like people have done phenomenal work
(14:41):
on them. I don't want to I don't want to
take anything away from those. They just didn't grab me
as inn as a way of saying, you have absolutely
got to check this out. There's there's something about a
work of art when they like with and or where
we don't have a whole lot of details about the
plot of the story or the characters, yet uh where
you watch the people and there's such a dedication to
(15:03):
it and there's such an excitement about it that you
can't help but be a little bit excited for it. Yeah,
and um Diego Luna is just such a charismatic person
that I'm I really want I want to see a
series with him. Yeah, yeah, me too. And then they
announced a bunch of other stuff that we'll just go
through really quickly, a bunch of Pixar things that are
coming out like a long form musical comedy series about Milana,
(15:26):
which I'm all about, Awaju, which I'm not sure if
I'm pronouncing correctly, which is a science fiction African comic
book series. Um. They've talked about some of their movies
coming straight to demand along with the theaters for an
extra cost um light Year, which is going to bring
another another Marvel actor over into the Disney fold. Chris
(15:50):
Evans is voicing light Year, the character that the buzz
Light Your Toy was supposed to be based off of. Yeah,
it's an origin story from I do want to see
a Disney movie where Chris Evans has to confront all
the various versions of himself throughout Disney. Uh, we'll get
to that. But then they announced them that well when
(16:10):
it was confusing because they put him in with all
the Star Wars stuff like Willow. I saw all of
these Star Wars titles announced in this this graphic and
then there was Willow and Children of Blood and Bone.
Children is a young adult novel. Yeah, a Nigerian novel,
kind of kind of Harry Pottery from what I understand,
(16:30):
and then Willow, you know is but it made me think, well,
parts of the land and Willow do look like Endoor?
So are they saying that Brownies are related to Ewah?
Lucas Lucas was the guy behind producing Willow, So that's
why Willow is in there because it was a Lucas
film project. Um, and I have a an affinity for
(16:55):
it because I have a niece named after a character
from Willow. So to me like this is I think
I'm really looking forward to. There are also a ton
of announcements about lots of other stuff. UM Hocus Pocus,
to which we knew was in development already, sister Act,
Peter Pan and Wendy, UM, live Action, Pinocchio, lots and
(17:15):
lots of stuff. But you've probably seen plenty of pieces
on that. So rather than go through all that, we're
gonna take a quick break and come back and put
on our superhero capes. So we'll see you right after this,
(17:38):
all right. So the other third half, somewhere around their
announcement from the Disney Investors meeting was all about the
m c U. Um, we know that going into this
new phase after endgame of m CU movies are opening
up the multiverse, which is opening up a multitude of possibilities.
That's just when I think it was part of what
(18:01):
propelled Jonathan and I to say, oh, we need to
make this episode one even though this announcement happened last week,
because as we talked about it, we got exceptionally excited
about a few possibilities that they're now opening up. So yeah,
so this, this is this is crazy because you ask
where do you go after end Game? And not just
(18:22):
with the the stories that unfolded within the m c
U so far, with certain characters being gone gone or
at least seemingly gone, like Vision seems to be gone gone,
but he's back back, at least in some form, and
then you know, Captain America spoiler alert if you haven't
(18:42):
watched End Game yet, Captain America's gone, and uh, you know,
you sit there and think also the tragedy, real life
tragedy of Chadwick Boseman passing away and what that means,
because one of the things they did they actually ended
their segment talking about they gave a tribute to him
and said that he was so inspirational and instrumental that
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they were not going to recast the role of Challa,
which means that the Black Panther is going to be
a different, different character will be taking up that mantle. Sure,
he is the one that most people say. His sister
are the ones that most people say. It's probably the
most likely. But I've heard some other concepts thrown around
as well. But the reason why the multiverse is kind
(19:27):
of exciting is that one, it opens up the pops
possibility of really really weird stories. And we've kind of
gotten hints of that with the first Doctor Strange movie,
which dipped its toe in there, and the ant Man movies,
which in the quantum world kind of dips its toe
in that area, and then Spider Man Far from Home.
(19:48):
They played with the idea with j Jonah Jameson at
the end, you know you get the j So yeah,
they when you pull in an actor who has played
a character but played for a different incarnation of the
the superhero played by a different actor with a different
origin story, all this kind of stuff, you start to say, like,
(20:10):
was that just you know, kind of a wink and
a nod to fans, or is this an indication of
some sort of multiverse link? And it could go either way, right,
it could just be no, we just think that's cute,
Like it could be like the Schwarm a scene at
the end of the first Avengers movie, like it doesn't
mean anything, it's just there. It could be that there's
a j Jonah Jamison in every single or or that
(20:32):
version of j Jonah Jamison transcends right versus universes. But
we're seeing already that with the announcement of the different
properties of Marvel, that there is this kind of interdimensional
and inter temporal connectivity because you've got the low Key
series which has the t v A in it and
(20:53):
watches the time variants. Is the Time Variance Authority, which
which is create It's it's an authority that monitors all
of the different timelines and then can eradicate timelines that
are problematic or dangerous, which is a great thing for
Marvel to introduce into their storyline because that means if
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they have a property that fails, they can go the
type TV is cutting it. Yeah, it's it's it's a
it's done as in the comics. It's done like it's
just a enormous bureaucracy, like it's like the biggest government
office you've ever seen, and not in a shield cool way,
like it's done as if it's like the most boring
kind of job in the world that you're having to
(21:37):
look at all the different realities and all the different timelines.
So so you've got that concept that low key thing
is already tapping into it. One division the series that
has uh, the Scarlet Witch and Vision in it that
clearly is set in some sort of reality that is manufactured,
(21:59):
whether it's you know, a villain has placed people into
a virtual reality in their own minds, or maybe the
Scarlet which is kind of retreated into her own mind
after dealing with the loss of her her her loved vision. Um. Yeah,
in the comics, this this story that aligns with this
what we know about the TV show, she kind of
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goes insane and tries to recreate all that she's lost.
She being Disney, I suspect it will be a little
bit happier she I mean, it's possible she could maybe
she could come become the big bad because Scarlet, which
becomes like a serious villain for a while in that storyline.
But I don't think she'll be the big bag this phase.
(22:40):
Possibly not. I mean, it's kind of hard to draw
some conclusions, at least for me. Maybe you have better
insight into it than I do. But we also know
that Doctor Strange is that has the Madness of the
Multiverse in its title, so we know that that's going
to take part of this, so it ties into it.
And we know that the Villain and Antman and the
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Wasp uh in the Quantum Verse story is going to
be Kang the Conqueror, and Kang the Conqueror in the
comic books is this time traveling super villain who is
constantly trying to conquer modern day Earth for some reason.
I don't understand what his motivations are, Doctor, but yeah,
(23:24):
when you can literally be in any time, in any
place while you're focusing on modern day Earth, I don't know.
I guess we're super special. But but King the Conqueror
he does have a tragic sort of backstory too, and
we know that that's going to be one of the
He's going to be the Villain and ant Man and
the Wasp, and that also ties into the multiverse and
(23:45):
time time travel. So we're looking at all these different possibilities,
and we know the in Spider Man three, we're gonna
have various incarnations of Spiderman actors who have played Spiderman
and other franchises showing up. Yeah, and and know that
Dr Strange is going to be in one division and
he's going to be in Spiderman three, and then Wanda
(24:05):
is going to be in Doctor Strange. Uh So it's
interesting to me because uh and I'll get back to
Spiderman three about this. When we started into the m
c U and we ended up getting Agents of Shield,
they said, well, these stories are going to stay different.
And now they're starting to integrate their TV shows with
(24:28):
their movies, and I feel like it's all going to
tie together and you're gonna have to watch one to
watch the other, which I think is a great marketing
scheme if you don't get burnt out on it. Yeah, no,
it's it kind of makes me think. So the way
I see this all starting is way back in the
day when Blair Witch Project came out. This is not
Marvel obviously, but Blair Witch Project was a standalone film,
the original Blair Witch Project standalone film that you could
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watch and you could you know, it would be creepy
and you could get, you know, a decent experience out
of it. But there was this incredible oundwork of backstory
that was online on the Blair Witch Project website that
continued to build upon this concept that this was a
real found footage film, like the footage was actually real stuff,
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and treated it all as if it were real events,
and it just elevated everything if you happen to have
put in the work. If you did it, you can
still have a good experience in the movie, but you
wouldn't get as much out of it. I feel like
it's similar to this. I'm hoping that each intrigue can
be standalone so that you don't have to have seen
something else for something to make sense, but that if
(25:34):
you see it all, it just makes a much bigger
picture that is much more satisfying. Jessey has done a
pretty good job at that in the past. The thing
that I'm so excited about with all of this, though,
is that they aren't denying all of the other iterations
like we talked about, So we do have all of
these old Spider Man's but we're also getting Charlie Cox
(25:56):
as Daredevil from the Netflix Defenders series, which everybody was
really sad when Disney Plus came out and Netflix Heidy
canceled their Defender series. Some people were sad. I was sad,
I have I have a, I have a possibility to
pose to you, Ariel. So we have heard that Charlie
Cox is at least rumored to be in Spider Man three,
so we assumed that Daredevil's showing up there. Hopefully that
(26:18):
means Luke Cage to one of the yes uh and
and Jones to Jessica Jones like Turk character too. Uh.
The only one that kind of gets left out of
Iron Fist because that just didn't work so well. But
at the end of the second season. That's the thing.
At the end of the second season of Iron Fist,
and I'll keep this brief, he and his brother get
(26:38):
drunk and go on hijinks, and I'm like, that's the
show I wanted to watch for the last two seasons.
Why are you stopping it here? Well, the question I
was going to pose to you, or the scenario is
going to pose to you. Is that one of the
series that they announced. Another one that we had heard
about but we got a little more detail is She Hulk.
And then you know the character of She Hulk, her
(26:59):
alter ego is a lawyer and she specializes in cases
that have to do with superheroes. So there could be
an episode of She Hulk where she's going up against
Matt Murdoch, the secret identity of Daredevil, who's also an attorney.
He could show because they said you should expect to
(27:21):
see other heroes show up in the She Hulks series.
We know that we know that Mark Ruffalo is going
to be in it. We know that Tim Roth as
the Abomination is coming back for that series. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
it'll be Law and Order m c U and and
we're running out of time. But I did want to
bring up one other thing that Ariel and I talked
about just as we were kind of basking in the
(27:43):
wake of all these announcements, which is that they're bringing
back Fantastic Four. So we're getting another Fantastic Four film,
and we don't know yet what what form that's gonna take.
We uh, we know that the director of of of
Spider Man Far from Home is directing Fantastic Four. But
the interesting thing to me is that we were talking about,
(28:05):
is this going to be yet another origin story? Are
we going to get another version of Fantastic Four? Because
technically this would be the fourth film version since the nineties,
the first one being the produced but never officially released
Roger Corman film, which I argue is still the best
Fantastic Four movie that's been done so far. I would
agree with you, And and that is taking into account
(28:26):
how cheesy it is. I think it's actually perfect the
way it is, how cheesy it is. And then we
have the other two more modern interpretations of Fantastic four
that came out. Since then, is it going to be
yet another version with new actors playing those parts? But
with all this multiverse stuff, Ariel brought up the fact
that maybe we could even see different incarnations of the
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Fantastic Four and different actors who play these characters. And
that leads us to a truly in same mind blowing possibility, yes,
which is, after they established their version of fanta Asking four,
they bring in the multiverse of Fantastic four, which means
that we get Chris Evans as the human Torch and
we get Michael B. Jordan's and they're also both they
(29:13):
have both played characters other characters in the m c U.
Because Chris Evans is obviously Captain America, Michael B. Jordan's
kill Monger, So you suddenly have the possibility of having
like and it feeds right into the multiverse. Two That's
the thing is that you could do this. It would
be crazy, it would be weird, but it also is
(29:35):
thematic with the multi verse. Yes, I would love it,
which brings me back to Chris Evans having a movie
where he has to deal with all the various versions
of himself. Maybe it could even be met it. It It
could actually be Chris Evans having to deal with Captain
America and the human Torch and buzz light ear and
and I maybe his character from Scott Pilgrim because he
(29:58):
was a comic book character there too. Yeah. Yeah, And
I would say that Michael B. Jordan would join him
on the adventure because he's in a similar boat exception
of the fact. And then it becomes too close to
Falcon and which your soldier, which again it's tied to
Captain America, and it's just and this is all before
we even have to say the name Ryan Reynolds, which
(30:21):
makes it so much more complicated because he's been heroes
with both Marvel and d C. So so this is
I mean, obviously we haven't touched on all the different announcements.
I have to admit that there are other ones, like
I'm way more excited about the Marvel stuff than I
am with the Star Wars stuff. I want to see
iron Heart. I want to see I want to see
(30:42):
Miss Marvel definitely. I'm really excited about that one. I
want to see she a Hulk, Yeah, because they cast
Tatiana Muslani in it, who's from Orphan Black, so she's
got all of this experience playing multiple versions of the
same character. I want to see Moon Night. I'm really
curious about how they're going to handle that character. Um.
(31:02):
I want to see Secret Invasion with Nick Fury and
tell Us And I think we both Ariel and I agree,
And it's not just because of the time of year,
but I think we both agree that obviously the pinnacle
of their work is going to be The Guardians of
the Galaxy Holiday Special, which is I could not anticipate
something more. And I'm only being a little snarky about that. Yeah, yeah,
(31:25):
it better have groups singing holiday classics. Yes, I am
grout and just done it different tunes that would be amazing. Yes, well, yes,
I am groot, I am I am Grood. Well, you
know what, now that we're talking about singing Christmas songs,
I think it's a good time for us to to
take a quick break and when we come back, we
can have our large nerd drunk collider mash up. So yeah, yeah,
(32:09):
I'm gonna tell you this had nothing to do with
current news. I guess. I guess one of our properties
is coming out with the sequel or reboot or soft
reboot soon, is the news ish. But the other one
is just because I know that it's getting close to
the holiday time and this mash up abuse me. So
(32:31):
we're doing Routolf the Red Nose Reindeer meets Gremlins. Gremlins
is the one that's getting the soft reboot, uh sequel.
So if you're not familiar with rutof the Red Nose Reindeer,
he's somehow you haven't seen television since the nineties seventies. Listen, listen.
Some some people may not celebrate Christmas. So he's he's
(32:51):
one of Santa's reindeer with a bright, shiny nose that
leads the sleigh through all of the snow and sleet.
There's a wonderful claimation old movie about it that for
me just holds up forever and ever and ever where.
It's the cutest thing. And he's got kind of like
a little like stuffy nose, sort of a voice, and
I absolutely love it. It's because they've coated his nose
(33:14):
with yeah, so that so so that he's got those
dogs like this. And of course, the the Center for
Puppetry Arts here in Atlanta has a licensed uh production
of this where they have puppets that are designed to
look just like the characters from that original special. Like
(33:36):
they are all designed so that you can see these
in three dimensions. And I know that very well because
my sister has performed in it numerous times. She's been Rudolph.
So pretty cool. Yeah, they're fantastic. It's it's like it's
like I'm I'm I'm a relative of a celebrity. So yes,
that's you know, do you call the most famous Rengeer
(33:59):
of all, Sure you do. Gremlins. Gremlins is a kind
of I think of Get Gremlins as a gateway horror
movie because it's it's it's not super scary, but it's
got some intense moments. Yeah, it's some intense moment and
some gross out stuff too, Like there's some there's some
gross things that happened in that movie. Yes, yes, it's
(34:22):
I had to I had to muster some courage to
get through Gremlins. I love Gremlins, but it's definitely one
of those ones where it's even still like Jurassic Parking,
Jaws don't touch me, everybody, you can judge me. It's fine.
I realized I still have to watch parts of it
kind of cloth covering my eyes, even though I know
what's going to happen, just because I still get I
(34:43):
still get that anxiousness. You can get pulled into them,
You get pulled into the movie. That's a good thing. Yeah, yeah,
So Gremlins is a story about a young man who
gets a gift from his dad, his crazy inventor dad,
who finds this exotic animal in a market and it
turns out it's a maguai and the magway is sensitive delight,
(35:07):
can't can't let sunlight hit or it'll kill it. Um,
you're not supposed to get it wet. You're not supposed
to feed it after midnight. And he finds out what
happens when all of those things happen, which includes and
it gets wet, they multiply, and then if they eat
after midnight, which is a problem story element if ever
there were one, because it's always after midnight. But if
(35:27):
they eat after midnight, then they turn into these the
gremlin creators, the the really evil, destructive, malicious critters. And
so now we're gonna mash those two together. Yes, do
you want to go first or shall I? I'm gonna
say that you're gonna want to go first. Okay, okay, okay.
(35:48):
So Santa needs some new reindeer to pull his sleigh.
You know, he always has the young and upcoming crew,
but he just he needed to get some more reindeers.
So he goes to the local North Pole Sligh and
Tractor Supply store, which also happens to sell antiques, you know, uh,
to pick up these reindeers. I don't know if people know,
but tract your supply stores usually sell like baby chickens,
(36:10):
so it makes sense at a north Pole one would
sell baby reindeers. Go with it, Okay, but this batch
of reindeer is different than any previous batches he has
ever seen a reindeer when he has had to go
to the North Pole Sligh and Tractor Supply store and
antique dealership. Um, the owner of the store tries to
sell Santa, don't buy these. Stick to your current dear,
Dasher and Dancer will do fine this year and we'll
(36:32):
get you new ones next year. But Santa sees this
one in the middle of the pack who's got a bright,
shiny nose, and insists on taking it home. The shop owner,
who's like, who am I to argue with Santa right,
says fine, whatever, just whatever you do, don't don't feed them. Uh,
don't feed them after Christmas Eve eve? Okay, So don't
(36:53):
feed them after yes, don't do it. Santa laughs into
ho ho and takes them home, ampletely forgetting a warning. Uh,
that's until he gives the reindeer their pre flight meal. Now,
you don't want to feed reindeer on Christmas Eve when
they have to fly, because it will give them cramps,
much like eating before swimming. You don't want to go
(37:14):
eating before flying, right, So he feeds them before settling
them up. That's it, hardness. Now I have a picture
of Santa riding a riding a reindeer with a lasso.
I'm sure that happens in Texas. Okay. So um, the
flight is choppier than normal, and Santa doesn't know why
(37:36):
until they land at their first stop, which is Kingston Town.
I think that's the town in Gremlins. All of a sudden,
I can't remember so until they just make scratch, until
they just make their first stop, right, Okay, when all
of a sudden, all the deer's except for the Red
Nose one turn into a bombinable snowmen. Uh, it's a bumble.
(38:00):
It's so bumbles, tons of bumbles, tons of angry, ferocious,
destructive bumbles, which makes such a noise that wake all
the children of the town, who then team up with
Santa to make a giant cage out of their erector
sets and use the Red Nose reindeer Rudolf to lure
all the rampaging snowmen in saving the town. Unfortunately, that
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causes such like a weight on the earth that the
erector set full of abominable snow men fall into the
earth and get covered with all of the Christmas snow,
which leads into the sequel for the next year, Reindeer
Games After Midnight to um. But that is a mash
up for a future day that also reminds me of
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a horror movie I saw where the Santa Claus character
is this more like a Crampus style character, And I
can't remember was It's something Delivery. It was a foreign
film and truly horrific. But you're ending reminded me like
that could have been the prequel to the movie I
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saw there was the horror movie. It could also be
the prequel to it for all I know. All right, well,
here's my version. Now. My version is more of a
mashup of Rudolph Rednez Reindeer and Gremlins too, and we
didn't talk about Gremlins too. It is a very interesting
sequel in that it takes a very different approach to
(39:28):
tone and jokes from the first film. The first film
was a horror comedy. The second film is more of
a comedy comedy with elements of horror in it. But um,
that's all you need to know. And here comes my
version and my apologies because you already had to hear
me sing for episode one. So here we go. You know,
Grimlin and Gremlin and Gremlin and Gremlin, Gremlin and Grimlin
(39:56):
and Mohawk and Gremlin. But do you recall the most
famous gremlin of all, brain Gremlin, the brainy Gremlin, Gremlin, Gremlin, Gremlin,
Magua Gremlin, Gremlin Gremlin. They had a snack after midnight
(40:19):
to get that water away from Gremlin or we will
have more gremlin soon. Then the Gremlins Gremlin, you're gremlin, Gremlin.
Then I'll finish out this tune. Then one foggy Gremlin,
Eve brain Gremlin came to say, gremlin with your skin
(40:43):
so green, let's bite Gizmo in this scene, than how
the Gremlins gremlin as they gremlin out with glee brain Gremlin,
the brainy Gremlin. We hope you're back for grim Lens three.
(41:04):
That's my that's my mashup. That went on way longer
than I expected I did. I did the whole song
and not nearly as long as it deserved. That I
wasn't able to work in like any of the other characters.
So here's the true story behind that mashup. I don't
usually do this, but for this mashup, I thought, oh,
(41:24):
it'd be fun to do a a parody of Rudolph
the Red Nose Reindeer, but use different gremlin names. The
Gremlins don't typically get names. You get usually like one
gremlin will be known as something like Stripe. That was
the bad guy from the first Gremlins movie and the
second one. You have um or I guess maybe stripe.
(41:46):
Stripe was the mohawk. Mohawk is the second one. Um,
mohawk is essentially stripe. But again, and then but you
had like brain Gremlin, and then occasionally you'll get descriptors
like in Gremlin or bat Gremlin, but you don't they
don't have names, like Gizmo the Magway gets a name,
(42:07):
but the other characters typically don't. So um So when
it came to name all the gremlins, all I can
do is just say gremlin. And then I was like, well,
I'm just gonna double down on this joke. Brilliant, brilliant,
and even more brilliant now that you've explained it. No,
it was no, it was hilarious. I felt good about
my my mash up. But then you came out with
(42:28):
that Jonathan, Well, I mean, I promised they won't all
be musical. So there's that. Listen you find it funny.
We don't know what our listeners think it, but we
do want to know what you think, both about the
stuff that's going on in the gegosphere in general, what
your mashup of Rudolph the Red Nose Reindeer and gremlins
would look like and more like, what are some other
(42:50):
things that we should mash together in future episodes? And
you can do that by reaching out to us on
social media. Yeah, on Twitter, you can reach out to
us either in put tweet or a d M. At
l n C Underscore podcast. You can also reach out
to the Large Nurse are and collector on Instagram and Facebook.
We will check those. If you send a d M,
(43:11):
we may not DM you back, but we will definitely
look at what you send us, and if we like
what you send us, we'll even read it on the show.
So we look forward to hearing from you. We also
want to give us special thanks to our producer Tari,
who took our our hodgepudge little idea and made it
super baller. Yeah. So our ideas were like the Lions
(43:32):
and Voltron, and then Tari took all the lions and
jammed them together to make Voltron, which is kind of
like the whole concept of the show to begin with.
So it's a great fit. So Tari, thank you so much. Yeah,
and until next time, I'm aerial casting. I am Jonathan Stripling. Yeah.
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