LNC Calls Pedro Pascal "Zaddy"

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Speaker 1 (00:10):
Hey, everybody, Welcome to the large Ner Drunk Collider podcast,
the podcast that's all about the geeky things happening in
the world around us and how very excited we are
about them. I'm aerial, caston and with me all way.
Who is with me as always is the delightful Jonathan Strickland.

Speaker 2 (00:27):
Don't walk Away. All you Gotta do is stay?

Speaker 1 (00:32):
Is that a reference to something?

Speaker 2 (00:33):
It's a It's a lyric from a song called Don't
walk Away, which is from one of the greatest movie
musicals of all time. I'm talking about Xana Do.

Speaker 1 (00:46):
I've never seen it.

Speaker 2 (00:47):
I an ironically love Xana Do, and I call it
one of the greatest movie musicals of all time. That
is ironic it is. It is a cheesy, corny movie.
It's Gene Kelly's last film. Olivia Newton John is in it.

Speaker 1 (01:05):
Is it Starlight Express in the Australian Desert?

Speaker 2 (01:09):
No? No, it's not set in Australia at all. Oh okay,
Olivia Newton John is Australian, but she is in this
She's not Australia. And she's a muse like a Greek muse.
And great film from nineteen eighty Great in quotes. I
guess I love it onironically, but I recognize that it

(01:31):
is a cheesy film and that nostalgia probably plays a
huge part in this. But Electric Light Orchestra did a
lot of the music for the movie. And the reason
why it's even on my mind at all is I
was watching an old interview that had a Pedro and
Bella from the Last of Us having a little conversation.

(01:52):
This was from when they were doing season one, so
this was a few years ago, and the question that
was posed to the two of them was if your
friendship was a song, what would it be? And immediately
Bella was like, Xanna do all that's.

Speaker 1 (02:07):
Delightful because Bella's you know, at least gen Z, maybe
Jen Alpha, probably gen Z. I don't know their age.

Speaker 2 (02:18):
Yeah. Apparently they picked it up from Pedro, who genuinely
loves the song, and they revealed that when Pedro got
a new phone, Pedro texted Bella and said, this is
Pedro and to prove it, sent a link to Xana.
Do I like the music the song? Xana do on

(02:40):
like YouTube or something.

Speaker 1 (02:42):
Based off of his I was about to say, you know,
that seems like his mo O, but yeah, I don't
know him. So that's based off of what Pedro Pascal
puts out into the public that at least fits his
public persona well.

Speaker 2 (02:58):
And he's he's a general excerpt, right, So he and
I are are very close, very close. Oh yes, he is.
He and I are very close in age. We're like,
we're very close in age. And so I'm like, well,
of course he loves Xana do He was the right
age to fall in love with such a cheesy movie,
as was I, And so yeah, I was like, oh,

(03:22):
that totally makes sense to me.

Speaker 1 (03:24):
There's this weird like mi asthma that happens to me
with gen X, Millennial and gen Z. And I don't
know if it's just because of like the verbal mash at,
like shipping mashups we've given to them, like Zenial and
Zenial which sound very similar, but the three generations kind
of run together for me. And maybe it's because I'm

(03:45):
I'm in the theater world and I have friends across
friends and peers across a broad spectrum of age rages,
and because we're peers that it only really shows up
when you're talking about like pop culture stuff that someone
doesn't know.

Speaker 2 (04:04):
Yeah, I mean for me, like most of my friends
are millennials.

Speaker 1 (04:09):
So cause you're young at heart.

Speaker 2 (04:11):
I'm young at heart.

Speaker 1 (04:12):
But the problem is that also young, Jonathan. I'm not
gonna let you click Letya.

Speaker 2 (04:17):
I turned fifty this year.

Speaker 1 (04:20):
Sixty is the new forty. You're fine, So you're like
the new thirty.

Speaker 2 (04:23):
Yeah, I mean, considering that almost died last year, It's
it's gonna take a while for me to feel young,
I think. But yeah. The the thing that always strikes
me is when my friends start to reference something that
was big in their childhoods. Often it's something that either
I have not experienced or just doesn't mean the same

(04:46):
thing to me because I was too old when it
came out for me to have that connection. So here's
an example. This is something I actually have seen and
I do enjoy, but I don't feel a great connection
to it. The Goofy movie. That's something that my millennial
friends are or Newsi's two things that my millennial friends
think are really cool and I'm like, totally missed me.

Speaker 1 (05:09):
They they definitely like those are pivotal in my childhood,
and not just because I had a crush on Christian
Bale at the time, or because he played Jack and
Newsi's and he also played Laurie and Little Women, so
like you know, that's gone by the wayside. But also,

(05:31):
oh gosh, what's his name? I used to have a
crush on Jason Marsden, Not James Marston or James Marster's,
but Jason Marsden.

Speaker 2 (05:43):
The guy who did the voice for of Matt Mafee's
son Matt.

Speaker 1 (05:46):
Yeah, because I mean he was also in like Full
House and stuff like that, and a super cutie. I
used to have a thing for.

Speaker 2 (05:53):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (05:56):
I was gonna say short kings, but I don't think
that's it. I used to have a thing for short guys,
and I think he short.

Speaker 2 (06:01):
That explains why you got you had a crush on
my character at the Renaissance Fair, not me, y'all. Ariel
didn't have a crush on me. She had a crush
on my character, which I think is important to have
the distinguishing feature there. And it was just it was
just because my character was such a goofy Disney villain

(06:22):
type character.

Speaker 1 (06:23):
I mean, there's this thing that and I've done it too,
where when you're playing a character, you have a level
of confidence and I'm not saying that you, Jonathan, do
not have a level of confidence. But I've noticed this
that characters that actors play, especially in things like the
improv theater and stuff like that like Renfest, tend to

(06:46):
have a charisma about them because you have a level
of confidence because you can be bold and you don't
have to worry about the consequences.

Speaker 2 (06:54):
Well yeah, and if you get rejected, it's not you
that got rejected, it's the character that got like. It's
it's a it's a security blanket. And it's same thing
that we see at Halloween, right, like, yeah, you, Halloween
is like the amateur you hear about people who drink
a lot saying like Saint Patrick's Day is amateur hour.
That's what actors look at Halloween as because it's where
everybody puts on a costume and they get to pretend

(07:17):
to be something that they're not. It gives them an
extra layer of confidence. And actors mean while going like yeah,
this is me all the time, but.

Speaker 1 (07:23):
Don't sell yourself short, Jonathan, you are a cute e patuity,
So thank you.

Speaker 2 (07:27):
I appreciate that. Yeah, it was anyway, The point being
that I feel at Pedro Pascal a lot of like
his qualities that I have at least observed. Now granted,
I've of course, only observed what he has presented to
various forms of media. I don't know him personally, obviously,
but the stuff that he's presented, I'm like, I get

(07:48):
the feeling that Pedro and I would get along pretty well,
Like like we'd have a laugh, it would be pretty fun.
Not that I think that would ever happen, just that
I feel like the energy he gives off and the
stuff that he seems to like it's very much in
alignment with kind of my personality and the things that
I like, which is just cool. I know, I'm not

(08:09):
saying I'm ever going to meet Peedlo Pascal. I'm not
going to say that I even would desire for that
to happen. The man is very busy. Just it's just
nice to think about, Like when you see someone that
who's work you admire and then you figure, oh, this
actually seems like a person that I would genuinely like
it in a you know, if we were hanging out
in the real world at the same time. That's just cool.

Speaker 1 (08:32):
Yeah, I mean, but you never know it could happen one.

Speaker 2 (08:35):
Day, Yeah, you never know. I mean I occasionally do
conventions and stuff, and I mean I did see him
on Broadway before I even knew who he was what
he was in king Lear. He played Edmund, the bad guy,
one of the big guys in king Lear, and he
was great. Nice.

Speaker 1 (08:52):
I just saw an interview with the person that I
know from Community Theater where we are, who's on Broadway,
who I talk about all the time, Andrew Durand, talking
about his Dead Outlaw experience because that's going to Broadway now.

Speaker 2 (09:06):
Yeah, it just it just opened.

Speaker 1 (09:08):
Yeah, and it's a lot of fun. It's a lot
of fun to hear him talk about it because for
the first half he's alive and apparently he's playing Edwin McCurdy,
who actually does have like an IMDb page, and the
second So the first half he apparently in this interview,
he does a whole bunch of singing back to back
to back to back to back, and then the second
half he's dead and like he has to like figure

(09:31):
out when people are passing him so he can blink
on stage. He talked about and things like that. I'm like,
why aren't you playing dead with your eyes closed?

Speaker 2 (09:38):
But yeah, I think he's I think he's actually propped
up in a coffin. Yeah, on stage. Yeah, I actually
saw so. I One of the subreddits that I subscribe
to is the Broadway subreddit, and there's a current discussion
on there of people hoping beyond hope that they do
a cast album for that show because they love the

(09:59):
music so much.

Speaker 1 (10:00):
Yeah, it's getting really good reviews and it just looks fun.
It's like a wild West. I don't know it's based
on a true story, but Wildless Weekend at Bernie's. To me,
I would like to get up and see it. I
don't know if I'll be able to during the run,
even if my friend weren't in it, because we aren't.
You know, we aren't that close. We did community theater

(10:21):
together years ago when we were both teenagers, and we're
Facebook friends now, but we aren't like super close. I'm
more close with our mutual friends than I am with him.

Speaker 2 (10:30):
But sure, I.

Speaker 1 (10:31):
Would still like to support him because he's a phenomenal performer.
I would want to see the show anyhow, because it
just looks like it's a.

Speaker 2 (10:37):
Lot of fun. Yeah. Now that's on my list, along
with like Operation Min's Meet and Oh Mary. There are
like a few shows up in Broadway plays and musicals,
you know, John Proctor is the Villain is another one.
There are a few shows that I really would like
to see, And there's something to be said, like, I've

(11:00):
only ever seen one show with the original cast. Everything
else I've seen, you know, people have been replaced or whatever.
But there is something kind of special about seeing a
show with the at least the original like Broadway cast.
Sometimes by the time a show makes it to Broadway,
it's a totally different cast than what was you know,
in development or whatever.

Speaker 1 (11:21):
Yeah, but when it's in development, those people have such
a connection with the material because they've worked on it for.

Speaker 2 (11:27):
So long that right, and they've they've been usually been
through like evolutions of it too, like they've been you know,
if they've been with the production long enough, they'd be like, yeah,
this barely resembles what we started off with.

Speaker 1 (11:39):
Yeah, I really enjoyed back when I was on my
not that I am not still on a beatle Juice
the musical Kick, but now that I've seen both the
Broadway with some of the original cast and the touring,
like I can ease off my excitement a little bit,
But I really enjoyed watching them through all the work
shopping of it as well.

Speaker 2 (11:57):
So yeah, Well, speaking of watching stuff, let's talk about
some of the things we've seen since the last time
we recorded an episode.

Speaker 1 (12:08):
Awesome. I haven't watched much, neither of I. I finished
the current season of Harley Quinn Cool. I watched the
first half of the first episode of the new season
of Doctor Who You Go? Why didn't you finish it?
Because I was doing it during my workout and then

(12:29):
I've had a bunch of life stuff that has precluded
me from working out the past, like a couple of weeks,
largely which I'm very upset about. So I've only watched
the first half, but I will watch the second half
probably tomorrow. I like it. I really like the new companion,
the Doctor. I have some friends who are like, I
really like Judy Gatwa as the as the Doctor, but

(12:52):
he cries every episode and it kind of was bugging
me too. He does cry in this episode, but in
this episode it feels really appropriate and really warranted, So
I like that. Sometimes it's like I get it, but
you've seen so much and like he can you can
be an emotional doctor, but like when you've got the
close up on the tier. Every episode loses it's it's

(13:14):
uh poignancy.

Speaker 2 (13:16):
I guess, yeah, yeah, it's not effective.

Speaker 1 (13:19):
Yeah, so I watch that, but I'm enjoying it so far.
I'm playing a lot of Boulder Skate three. I just
got to Act three last night. I'm watching Connors and
I'm watching drop Out. The second episode of Game Changer
was not as insane as the first episode, but it
was still a lot of fun. And it's the kind

(13:40):
of episode I would love to be in because I'm
a perfectionist and I always think I can do better.
And that's all I'll say about it, because I don'tant
to spoil it for people.

Speaker 2 (13:50):
I'm guessing based upon clips i've seen, this is the
one where let's say, does vertical jump take a Yes? Okay, yes,
I have seen a clip from this, so I know
what the gimmick is. But I also will not ruin it. Okay.

Speaker 1 (14:03):
I mainly didn't want to ruin it for you, Jonathan, so.

Speaker 2 (14:06):
I appreciate it. But we have listeners out there who
are just as important as I am, so I do
not want to ruin it for them. I will say
that the bits I've seen are very very funny.

Speaker 1 (14:16):
They are very funny, and it's it's a weird like so,
like Brennan has this thing he does on Game Changers,
and I have some friends who are like they feel
for him because he acts like he's so upset at
the game, especially when like the game is kind of
like a poke at Brennan, like you're so competitive, so
we're going to poke at that. But I do think

(14:38):
part of it is an act, and this episode really
clinched that for me, because he started off kind of like, oh,
you're so proud of yourself, Sam, and then genuinely had
fun and went through all of these different states of
being in the episode.

Speaker 2 (14:54):
Now, I figure like there's at least there. I think
of it the same way I think of like what
a lot of pro wrestlers said about their personas is
that you know, the personas that worked best for them
was a version of themselves but then dialed way up,
like intensified. And I feel that that's kind of similar

(15:15):
to the persona Brennan has on these Like there's some
there's definitely truth to it, that's not the core, but
it's it's emphasized. I think, well, I watched I finished
season three of Harley Quinn, so I'm still well behind,
but I did finish because the last episode of season
three was like a forty minute long Valentine's Day special,

(15:40):
so that took a while for me to get through,
and then I watched I finished Mythic Quest, and I
have lots of thoughts and feelings about it, because of
course Mythic Quest was canceled, so they weren't. They had
planned on doing a fifth season. The original ending of
season four was a cliffhanger. Then Max canceled the or

(16:04):
Apple TV rather canceled the series. I can never keep
straight what series is on which streaming service, but their
series got canceled, but they were given the opportunity to
re edit the episode to give it more of a
conclusive ending, although I think they were only partly successful

(16:25):
in doing that, and that unfortunately, there are just a
lot of loose ends that it would have been impossible
to tie up even with a re edit, and unless
they just cut that section entirely, then the episode would
have been five minutes long. So that's really unfortunate because
I feel like a lot of the stuff I wanted

(16:46):
to know more about I never will know more about.
Because it got canceled, and I feel that the ending,
while it doesn't have a cliffhanger anymore, it's also not
a very satisfying ending. So I think they were just
in a super tight spot where there was no good solution,
and it's unfortunate because I really I continue to enjoy

(17:11):
the show. I know some fans felt the first two
seasons were really strong and they didn't care for seasons
three or four. I actually liked all the different seasons.
I liked how the show could have hit some pretty
emotional spots and even have like episodes where comedy is
taking a back seat and it's really much more about

(17:31):
telling a very emotional story. So I really much enjoyed
the series. I wish it could have gotten another season
to conclude kind of on you know, going into it
knowing that this is going to be the final season,
because they could have paid off all those different setups.
There was also one setup that I swear I saw

(17:54):
it and I was like, oh man, when that pays off,
it's going to be huge. This is gonna be it's
gonna be a lot to this one character. It's going
to be really dramatic, and nothing ever happens of it,
and that was something that I felt was a missed
opportunity because it was something that happened earlier in the season,
and so they could have paid it off by the

(18:16):
last episode and there was no reason for it to
continue on to become a season five thing, Like if
they did that, chances are they would drop it anyway.
And I was like, what a terrible missed opportunity because
this would have been a dramatic character development element. That
being said, I still think it's worth watching. So as

(18:36):
much as I have issues with the final season of
Mythic Quest, I think it's something that if you are
a fan of the show, you should go ahead and watch.
And then I watched the beginning of like maybe even
the first third of Companion, that's the movie with Jack
Quaid in it, where he has a like the trailer

(18:59):
gives way, and I kind of regret that because as
I was watching it, I was like, wait, did I
mix this up with a different movie, because this doesn't
seem to be the thing I thought it was, And
then ultimately like, oh, no, it is the thing I
thought it was, But boy, wouldn't it have been better
for me to find out just by watching the movie
and not having seen the trailer at all.

Speaker 1 (19:17):
But would you have watched the movie if that hadn't
been included in the trailer.

Speaker 2 (19:20):
I don't know. I don't know, but I told my partner.
I told Beca. I was like, I think you would
like this, which is that's why I stopped watching it.
I didn't stop watching it because I didn't like it.
I actually quite liked it.

Speaker 1 (19:34):
That was my question.

Speaker 2 (19:36):
Next question, Yeah, I want to watch it with her.
So I want to sit down with Becca and be
able to watch the whole thing from start to finish.
And so that's why I stopped it. Was I mean,
I got pretty decent, a pretty decent amount into the
series or into the movie, but I don't think I

(19:58):
quite I don't think I got halfway. But yeah, I
will watch it. I'm just gonna watch it with her
because I think she would enjoy it too. A lot
of the stuff I watch I don't think would really
be her style, like her vibe, but this I was like,
oh no, I think she would enjoy this. Like she'd
get mad at parts, but those are the parts that

(20:20):
are designed for you to get mad at.

Speaker 1 (20:23):
Yeah, A couple other things on our list today I
actually sent to my husband because I was like, I
think you might enjoy watching this. There's one thing that
I haven't watched that I am watching this weekend. I'm
going to go see Sinners Awesome.

Speaker 2 (20:37):
Yeah, that's still on my list of things to see.
I get it consistently gets great reviews, and I definitely
would love to see that too.

Speaker 1 (20:45):
Like, so it doesn't get it's not like one hundred
percent positive reviews, and the negative reviews people tend to
think it's a little slow paced and boring and maybe
doesn't hit its moral well enough. But the yeah, the
fact that it's still ninety seven ninety eight fresh after
what one and a half two weeks is unheard of

(21:07):
for a monster movie.

Speaker 2 (21:09):
Really Yeah, yeah, Well I love when I when we
discover stuff that our partners will also kind of vibe with,
especially if it's something that you know, we can share
with them, because you and I have both had the
experience of finding stuff where we're like, well, I really
want to see this, but it's not really their thing,

(21:31):
so I guess I'll just do it on my own.
And there's nothing wrong with the time or yeah, or yeah,
if you're like me and Becca. You're like, let's let's
put it in our calendars when we're both at home
at the same time. Yeah, yeah, Well, let's let's move
on and talk about some quick news items in our

(21:54):
thirty seconds or less. And I forget did I put
myself first?

Speaker 1 (21:58):
You did?

Speaker 2 (21:59):
Okay, Well, let's get going. Then. The Academy of Motion Pictures,
Arts and Sciences has adopted new voting rules for the Oscars.
So earlier members of the Academy were merely encouraged to
watch all the works nominated in whatever category they were considering.
Now they are technically required to do that sort of.

(22:20):
I mean, it's not like someone's going to be standing
over their shoulder making sure they watch everything. But in theory,
this is a good thing.

Speaker 1 (22:29):
Something I don't know if it is so good. If
it's your thing, I'm sorry, I'm about to rain on it.
Sidney Sweeney and Michael Bay are making a movie version
of the nineteen eighty six game Outrun, which it sounds
I've never played, but sounds like the boring version of
Crazy Taxi because you're just avoiding traffic and trying to

(22:49):
get to a destination before the clock runs out. So
you're running late for work. They haven't shared the details
of the script or of the plot yet, and that's
probably because the plot of the game is, to me
not that exciting.

Speaker 2 (23:07):
Yeah, it's you could argue non existing. It's essentially a
racing game, all right. Anyway, Scream came back. I know
what you did last summer is coming back. So what
other nineties horror movies are due for a comeback? Well,
how about Urban Legends, which originally starred folks like Jared Leedo,
Michael Rosenbaum, and Tara Reid. Sony thinks it's time for

(23:28):
Urban Legends to return, and so it's in early development
with Chanra Wakefield writing the screen link. So what's next?
The faculty? Please please make the faculty again.

Speaker 1 (23:40):
I haven't watched either. So we got news that a
new Star Wars show is in development. Show that movie
checked this time, and this time it's being headed up
by Carlton Qes who was the showrunner for Lost in
Bates Motel and Jack Ryan in the Stream and Damon
Off who worked on Watchmen and The Leftovers. If they

(24:04):
mean the TV show Watchman, which I didn't check prior
to recording this, I am in I enjoyed Lost for
all of its rambliness and not best ending, and I
Watchman still remains one of my favorite TV shows, So
I'm excited to see what happens with this and where
it goes.

Speaker 2 (24:24):
Actor Tony Todd became a beloved figure in the horror genre,
appearing in such movies as The Final Destination Series and
The Original Candy Man. Sadly, mister Todd passed away last year.
One of his final movies, a sci fi film titled
The Bunker, will be coming out in the not too
distant future, though we don't actually have a release date yet.

(24:45):
The film deals with an alien threat, mind control, and isolation.
It also stars Tobin Bell, who's best known from the
Saw franchise.

Speaker 1 (24:55):
I don't know who that is, uh, the show Saw franchise,
not to but no, I'm kidding, I know both, but anyhow,
And Nola Holmes three is happening. Yeah. I thought Millie
Bobby Brown outgrew it as well, but I guess the
character he can grow with the actor. In addition to
Millie Bobby Brown, it's also going to have Henry Cavill

(25:18):
again and Helen and Bottom Carter. I haven't watched the
previous two. But I have a lot of friends that
like it, so we'll see.

Speaker 2 (25:26):
Yeah. I'm always a big fan of More Holmes fan fiction.
In nineteen ninety nine, a teen comedy loosely inspired by
Shakespeare's The Taming of the Shrew hit theaters. It was
titled Ten Things I Hate About You and it starred
folks like Keith Ledger and Julia Stiles. Now that story
is destined to become a stage musical with songs scored

(25:48):
by Carly Ray Call Me Maybe Jepson and Ethan Griska.
Lena Dunham is on the writing team. Christopher Wielden will direct,
and I am genuinely curious about this too.

Speaker 1 (26:00):
That sounds like a great team for that movie to
go to stage. We are getting a prequel to the
Hunger Game series. I guess it's Cannon in the original stories.
It's called Hunger Games, Sunrise and Reaping. I think we've
had other prequels. I kind of watched the first two
Hunger Games and then fell off the boat. Anyhow. This

(26:21):
one stared as stars Joseph Zada, who will be playing
basically Woodie Harrelson's character from the original movies, and then
Whitney Peak, who will be playing his girlfriend. So yeah, there's.

Speaker 2 (26:33):
That, there's that, and there's thirty seconds or less to da.
Now we can move on to our unofficial official segment
about stuff what doesn't quite fit into the lineup, although
Ariel made an argument that one of these could have I.

Speaker 1 (26:51):
Guess two of them do the very first one.

Speaker 2 (26:56):
Yeah, so we talk about drop Out. Ariel talk about
Dropout a lot, and we got a trailer this week
about a live tour that Dropout is doing, So if
you happen to be in the western or midwestern US,
you might have an opportunity to catch them live. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (27:16):
I think the closest they're coming to US is Kentucky,
even though every time Sam Reich posts about it on
social media, I'm like, please consider coming to Atlanta. You
would have a huge audience because I know a bazillion
people who watch drop Out in Atlanta and would go
to see improv from it. But still fun and exciting.

(27:38):
I like that they are at least expanding from their
previous tour, so still holding.

Speaker 2 (27:44):
Out hope, and it is an improv comedy tour, so
it's it's not like necessarily game changers or anything. Like that,
although they might do.

Speaker 1 (27:53):
That it's short form improv.

Speaker 2 (27:56):
Yeah, so I hope that it is a incredibly successful tour.
I love seeing drop Out continue to do well. Like
it's it's a business model that people were not sure
about when they moved to what they do now, which
is that you know, primarily it's a subscription based service
that you can you can become part of and then

(28:17):
watch all their content and then occasionally they'll release either
parts of or sometimes an entire episode on other platforms
like YouTube. There wasn't any guarantee that that was going
to work. There were other services that had tried similar
things in the past that did not work. But so
far it seems to be doing well.

Speaker 1 (28:33):
Yeah, they are. They haven't raised prices in a long time,
so they actually in May are raising their prices just
a little bit a dollar a month or ten dollars
for the year. But they also give absolutely they have
no qualms with you sharing your subscription with other people,
so I think it's completely reasonable for them for and
they also believe in paying their actors and crew affair wage,

(28:55):
so reasonable and I'm fine us agreed.

Speaker 2 (28:58):
We also we got a trailer for a comedy action
movie called Heads of State, in which John Cena plays
a former action movie star turned President of the United States,
Idris Elba I believe, is supposed to be the Prime
Minister of the UK, and the two of them get
wrapped up in an action movie style series of events

(29:22):
where John Cena mostly shows that he is completely incapable
of dealing with real action movie type situations that you know, yeah,
he's an actor, but he's not. He's not good at
doing the real thing. And it looks silly, it looks.

Speaker 1 (29:40):
It looks a lot of fun. Honestly, I I think.
I think in the trailer at least, John Cena and
Nidris Helba have a really good chemistry and playoff, play
off each other's comedics dealings very well. I will I'm
gonna watch this one. I every once in a while
get a craving for like a nineties early two thousands
level like action movie, and this really hits hits that spot.

Speaker 2 (30:04):
Yeah, I think this actually looks more entertained to me
than Jack Pott did, which actually watched. That was the
Aquafina John Cena film with the whole lottery subplot. Simoulu
in it too. I thought that movie had great actors
and performers in it and was just okay, this to
me looks like it could be fun in that nineteen

(30:25):
eighties style, over the top action movie way like the
Diehard era. Speaking of die Hard, we also have a
trailer for an action comedy movie that is obviously playing
off of die Hard as well as films like Bridesmaids,
because it's called Bridehard.

Speaker 1 (30:46):
Yeah. It stars Anna Camp and Rebel Wilson. Rebel Wilson,
thank you. I don't know why her name escape me.
She's doing a lot of stuff recently, including the Juliet
and Romeo thing, Alex, this one doesn't hit me as well.
I wasn't a huge fan of Bridesmaids, though I really
do like Anna Camp. I think Anna Camp is incredibly funny.

(31:09):
So yeah.

Speaker 2 (31:12):
The gimmick here is that Rebel Wilson is playing a
secret agent slash spy type character but is also a
maid of honor at her friend's wedding and then has
to ditch on some of the maid of honor stuff
in order to do her spy stuff, which she obviously
can't talk about. And meanwhile, all of her fellow bridesmaids

(31:35):
and the bride herself are all like, why can't you
be there for her? She's your best friend? Why do
you have to be like that? And so then she
has to, you know, try and be the maid of
honor while also being a spy and Shenanigans ensue. Yeah,
it looks it looks silly, But this, I said, this

(32:00):
looks like it came straight out of an LLNC mashup.
Like if we had done a mashup of Bridesmaids and Diehard,
this is kind of what would have happened.

Speaker 1 (32:09):
And I'm gonna be real honest, I would only actually
watch like twenty five percent of the mashups, right.

Speaker 2 (32:16):
I mean same Like most of the time, I use
the mashup as an excuse to tell a totally different
joke than whatever the mashup.

Speaker 1 (32:23):
Yes, that is true.

Speaker 2 (32:25):
That is true.

Speaker 1 (32:25):
Oh uh reminds me jack Pot and Bridehardt and all
this stuff reminds me. I did watch Everything Everywhere, all
at once for the first time this past weekend.

Speaker 2 (32:32):
Oh wow, why do you think I thought it was
really good?

Speaker 1 (32:35):
It was a lot because I had heard that it
was very like thought provoking and moving, but it was
a lot funnier and fun that more funny and fun
than I expected.

Speaker 2 (32:44):
Yeah, it's when you get into that last like twenty
minutes or so where it starts getting real heavy.

Speaker 1 (32:49):
Yeah. Yeah. I still am am on the fence on
whether Ki Hakwon makes a really good action star. But
he made a very good, like Bogart level suave guy.

Speaker 2 (33:04):
Yeah. I also kind of like him as very earnest
and sincere because he comes across just so sweet in
those things too.

Speaker 1 (33:12):
Yeah, phenomenal actor. The action stuff, he's not. It's not
that he's bad at it, it's it's because he is
so sweet and sincere. It doesn't quite have that edge. Yeah,
but then I saw that edge in the alternate universe
where where MICHELLEO is playing herself and ye and he's
playing the mist love in an alley with a cigarette.

(33:36):
Like I said, Humphrey Bogart basically brilliant, brilliant, a lot
of fun, much like well, not anything like, but also
the brilliant Paddington.

Speaker 2 (33:47):
Which is a lot of fun and is brilliant, but
otherwise it's not much like everything everywhere ever once. Yeah,
so we got news this week that Paddington is being
and it's well into the process. It's being adapted into
a stage musical, which is going to be staged in
the West End in London later this year, I believe

(34:07):
in November, and they had a very sweet Did you
see the teaser trailer that was released?

Speaker 1 (34:13):
I didn't. I missed it. Is it a Are they
using a puppet?

Speaker 2 (34:16):
No? No, Apparently in the workshops it's been a child
in a suit. From what I hear, I have not
seen anything. No, the trailer isn't like, it doesn't anything
of the stage. It's literally a reveal of the logo
and then says he gets a new home in London.
I'm like, oh so sweet. It's like, dear London, dear London,

(34:38):
please take care of this bear.

Speaker 1 (34:40):
I'll have to look that up. I don't know how
I feel about a kid in a bear suit.

Speaker 2 (34:45):
Yeah, I don't know either, Like, and I don't know
if that's all they're going to keep it or not, right,
Like probably if they're this far along, I think it
would be hard to restage beyond what they've already done.
Like if they're I mean, November is a good ways away,
so you could do it. But it's also dependent upon
how the show is written, Like is the kid also

(35:06):
voicing Paddington. I don't know.

Speaker 1 (35:09):
I mean, but like I, well, Paddington has such a
grown up voice to him, even though he is young.

Speaker 2 (35:16):
I don't cha. Yeah, I just don't know. I don't
know how they're going to go about it, like uh.
And and also nothing I've seen has been firsthand. Everything
I've seen has been reports about the work.

Speaker 1 (35:29):
But you know, I didn't think I would be into
a Paddington movie, and they completely won me over. So
I'm I hope it's I hope it's awesome. Uh.

Speaker 2 (35:38):
And then one last little bit and the stuff that
doesn't quite fit I added it at the last second.
I don't even know. Did you get a chance to
watch this?

Speaker 1 (35:46):
I did. It felt very like Stepford Wives meets Laguna Beach.
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (35:54):
Yeah, it's We're talking about a series coming out on
Netflix called Sirens. U has Kevin Bacon and the supporting
role Julianne Moore is playing a kind of a cult
of personality sort of figure. The idea here is that
there's a young woman who works for Juliane Moore who's

(36:15):
kind of like her right hand woman. Think of like
who was it was? It was DearS Prada well, yeah, yeah,
I was thinking of the other actress who in Devil
Wears Prada, who was like the second in command before
Anne Hathway comes in. Is it Emma Stone, No, Emily.

Speaker 1 (36:35):
Blunt, Emily Blunt? Yeah, I was about to say.

Speaker 2 (36:40):
But yeah, essentially it's like Emily Blunt's character, like she's
she's like the the the person who makes sure all
the stuff is going off without a hitch that Juliane
Moore can do her Julianne Moore thing. And then her
sister shows up, and her sister is very upset with
her because she appears to have kind of turned her
back on her the rest of her family. And then

(37:02):
the dawning realization that this, this julian More character is
kind of like a cult leader, like to all intents
and purposes, like it's it's not like a cult like
Jonestown or something, but maybe like Gwyneth Paltrow and Goop
that kind of cult. And yeah, it looks interesting to me,

(37:24):
and that's why I threw it on here. But it
doesn't quite fit the genre, like it's it's not to
the point of cult, to the point where it becomes
a genre film or genre series.

Speaker 1 (37:34):
Rather man this is Julian Moore does a really good
job at playing low key creepy people.

Speaker 2 (37:43):
Yeah, no, she's well, she's just great in general. But yes,
I agree. Uh so, yeah, that's that's the stuff that
doesn't fit. But now we've got plenty of things to
talk about that actually fall into our lineup for realsies.

Speaker 1 (37:54):
Yeah, and the first thing comes from Thunderbolts, which is
coming out, you know, in a couple of weeks, if
even that. And we haven't reported on a whole bunch
of like they've been releasing so many clips. Honestly, I
don't even watch half of them because I don't want
spoiler more spoilers for the movie than I've already got
from the trailers.

Speaker 2 (38:14):
But they released leave something for the film.

Speaker 1 (38:16):
Yeah, but they released I hope this isn't a spoiler
from the film. They released a commercial of David Harbor
as Red Guardian as I guess whatever Red Guardian's not
superhero name, is running a limo company, and it's like
a retin link level bad commercial.

Speaker 2 (38:36):
Yeah, it's it's done as if it's local cable access
television commercial. And his limos service has two whole cars
in it, and it's very cheesy and silly, and at
the end of it there's a phone number. And before
we recorded, I asked Ariel if she had bothered to
call the number. She had not, but I did.

Speaker 1 (38:59):
I use I used to call those numbers more when
it was like when like you had a landline and
you actually had to pay for calling those numbers. I
don't know why I stopped anyhow, what happened when you
called it?

Speaker 2 (39:09):
So it's a recorded message of the Red Guardian, David
Harbor as the Red Guardian, thanking you for calling about
the Red Limo service and going into the spiel a
little bit about it, and then says, oh, you should
also buy a ticket to see Thunderbolts, And when you
buy your ticket at the theater, tell them I sent you.

(39:32):
It'll still be the same price, but they'll be really impressed.
And it made me laugh. I loved it.

Speaker 1 (39:37):
That's amazing. I will have to tell my friends to
call that number now, but not tell them.

Speaker 2 (39:41):
Why it's it's it's a pretty funny little little bit,
but yeah, it's a cute promotional video. It's and I've
met David Harber and had a conversation with him and
like this is like right up his alley. It's just
like his kind of sense of humor too.

Speaker 1 (39:57):
So the next trailer we is it's actually a second
trailer for the Apple TV movie show.

Speaker 2 (40:05):
It's a it's a film.

Speaker 1 (40:07):
Film, Fountain of Youth. We don't always do second trailers,
we do if we've missed the first trailer. But I
think we talked about Fountain of Youth previously. But this,
this trailer actually makes me want to watch it.

Speaker 2 (40:22):
It's got a lot of it's got a lot of
kind of like Indiana Jones slash uncharted energy going on with.

Speaker 1 (40:28):
It, yeah, with a little bit of Jim from the Office,
because John Krasinski isn't it adorableness? Like, I feel like
this trailer really gives you a look into the character's
personalities and gives you something to care about beyond just
the generic adventure plot line of finding the Fountain of Youth.

Speaker 2 (40:47):
So yeah, like in this trailer, we find out that
John Kazinsky's character is kind of like art thief slash
archaeologist slash adventurer, so very similar to like a Indiana
Jones vibe. Is doing what he's doing in large part
to get his father the recognition he feels his father deserved.

(41:09):
So again very Indiana JONESI ish right with like the
Holy Grail and Indiana's father so but it has a
kind of national treasure Uncharted tomb Raider Indiana Jones vibe
going for it Mummy to some extent gave me the feel. Yeah, yeah,
all of those sort of things. You can say that

(41:31):
that's the genetic material that makes up Fountain of Youth.
And of course you've got like the secret Society that's
apparently guarding the secret of the Fountain of Youth and
all that kind of stuff going on to someone else
wants it and they'll do anything to get to it.
It doesn't look like it's going to break the mold
on that kind of film, but it looks like it's
a decent like version of that.

Speaker 1 (41:54):
It looks like it'll be a fun popcorn way to
spend an afternoon. We also got a second trailer for
uh is Like it feels like everything's a two or
four this time. We got a second trailer for Toxic Avenger,

(42:14):
which I don't think we talked. We got like a
little teeny tiny teaser. I don't think we talked about
the first trailer.

Speaker 2 (42:19):
We might have, but it was such a such a
weird little tea like Toxic Avenger. This is the movie
where Peter Dinglig is playing the lead of Toxy the
Toxic Avenger.

Speaker 1 (42:31):
The original was like a woe budget B movie.

Speaker 2 (42:35):
W Yeah, from Trauma Pictures, Trauma film which James gun
came out of. James Gunn did Trauma way back in
the day. But this is something that's been in the
can for a very long time, and there were questions
for a while about whether or not it was ever
going to see a release, and now we're finally getting
like trailers and stuff for it, And in this one
we actually get some of the character before he makes

(42:57):
his transformation into Toxi, where where he's a a essentially
a janitor at this company that, among other things, deals
with caustic chemicals, and that he this character has become
sick and he's looking to get support from the company

(43:17):
so that he can seek treatment for his illness, which
is obviously caused by the chemicals he comes into contact with.
And that's kind of the full extent of the trailers.
You know, you do get to see a little bit
of him as Toxy in it at the end, but
it's mostly kind of setting up the elevated but human

(43:38):
side of the story.

Speaker 1 (43:40):
Yeah. The thing that I found interesting because I'm not
I've seen some trauma stuff. I'm not a huge fan.
It's not like it wasn't super my Wheelhouse back in
the day. The thing that is really interesting to me
about this trailer is obviously they have a budget for
it now, with Kevin Bacon and Peter Dinklin, Jene Elijah

(44:00):
Wood and all of the people that are in it.
Elijah would or the other one, Daniel Radcliffe. I don't
remember anyhow one of those two is in it.

Speaker 2 (44:10):
That I love that you say those two because they
have each talked about how they've been mistaken as the
other one.

Speaker 1 (44:15):
Yeah. Yeah, I just don't remember offhand. But the trailer
still has a very B movie feel to it, with
like the cuts, some of the sound quality. The fact
that a lot of the movie doesn't have like a
score or like music underneath it in the trailer at
least gives it still that very B level movie feel.

(44:37):
And I wonder if that's to like hit on this
nostalgia of the people who are true fans of it
from the original.

Speaker 2 (44:42):
Could be I mean it could very well also just
be a byproduct of a genuinely low budget. It's hard
to say, but yeah, I will probably watch this when
it comes out. You know what. I've seen a couple
of Trauma Pictures films, but I have never actually watched

(45:02):
the Toxic Avenger.

Speaker 1 (45:05):
I fell asleep during the Toxic Avenger, which is sad
because I think it's less like I've seen like three
quarters of it. It's probably the one that's most up
my alley. The other one I saw was Tromeo and Juliet,
and I don't think I can recommend that to anyone.

Speaker 2 (45:20):
It was James Gun's film.

Speaker 1 (45:21):
Yeah, I mean just not my cup of tea. It
was a little too crass for me.

Speaker 2 (45:29):
Yeah. Yeah, that was back in James Gun's edgy period
where he was making he was making edgy statements and
leaning on those for jokes, and then later on he said, yeah,
you know that was stupid. It just wasn't It wasn't funny,
and it was just me trying to trying to be
funny but just being a jerk. Yeah. Well, we also

(45:51):
got a trailer. I alluded to this in the thirty
seconds or less. We got a trailer for the reboot
of I Know What You Did Last Summer. It's actually
a sequel because they have two of the excuse me,
I got a hiccup. Two of the stars of the
original film are in this.

Speaker 1 (46:11):
Yeah, Freddie Prince Junior and Jennifer Love HEWITTT correct, Yes, yeah,
I got it right.

Speaker 2 (46:17):
Did you know that? They also asked Sarah Michelle Geller
if she would come back.

Speaker 1 (46:22):
I didn't know that. But don't they show her picture
on a grave in the trailer?

Speaker 2 (46:25):
Well? Yeah, she dies in the movie. She's so apparently
apparently in the.

Speaker 1 (46:34):
I've not watched this, look, I've barely met I've just
this year watched Scream three last year.

Speaker 2 (46:40):
Okay, well, and I spoiler alert for I Know What
You Did Last Summer. Sarah Michelle Geller's character does not
make it out. She gets killed, and apparently the director
slash screenwriter for this reboot or the sequel reached out
to see if maybe Sarah Michelle Geller would be interested
in coming back. And she's like, Wow, the character's dead.

(47:03):
Like you see her on Ice. She's as dead as
dead can be. I'm Sarah dead Geller.

Speaker 1 (47:11):
I mean, but okay, but she's also played Buffy the
Vampire Slayer, so she knows that death is not always well.

Speaker 2 (47:19):
And I think that was the point, was that the
writer was like trying to do mental gymnastics to figure
out a way to justify bringing her back. But eventually
Sarah Michelle Geller is like, no, it just doesn't make sense.
It wouldn't it wouldn't serve the movie.

Speaker 1 (47:31):
Well her secret twin sister.

Speaker 2 (47:34):
Yeah, maybe, but anyway, this does follow new characters. The
Jennifer Love Hewitt and Freddy Prince Junior are playing supporting roles,
So it follows new characters who clearly do something, probably
a hit a guy in their car at night, who
then ends up wreaking vengeance upon them, because that's what

(47:56):
happens in the first I Know What You Did Last Summer.
The trailer looks like it's gonna be a pretty inventive
slasher movie, Like the kills look like they're gonna be
pretty brutal and nasty. So if that's your thing, like,
if you like movies that do that, like the Halloween
films or Friday the Thirteenth movies or whatever, this is

(48:19):
probably gonna be up your alley.

Speaker 1 (48:20):
This is it's not up mine. I it's I think
Scream made fun of I Know what You did last
summer and a bunch of US slasher movies. But I
think that's about as far as I can go.

Speaker 2 (48:32):
Scream also had a one of the Scream sequels had
Sarah Michelle Geller in it.

Speaker 1 (48:37):
Yeah. Yeah, well, I say that's as far as I
could go. However, we did get a teeny tiny teaser
for weapons, which is the news at Kreeger Film. I
guess the last film that he was super like hitting
the news for was Barbarian, which was too scary for me.

(48:57):
This one is. The teaser is very interesting and it
piques my curiosity.

Speaker 2 (49:06):
Yeah, the sort of the logline for the film is
that one night, all the children save one in this
town disappear, and so there's a mystery element of why
did the children disappear? Why did this one child not disappear?
Where did the kids go? Are they okay? But the
teaser we get is just of little children kind of

(49:29):
Naruto running at night, like they're not bent over, but
their arms are flung back as they're running. Yea, and
you hear you have some like voiceover stuff going on,
and it's very creepy. And mysterious, like there's not a
whole lot to hold on to as far as like

(49:52):
a storyline goes, but it is very effective in creating
an atmosphere and a feeling.

Speaker 1 (50:00):
And at the end of the at the tea of
the end of the little teaser, there's a there's a
bit where they're like the URL for the movie is
have you seen so and so or something like that,
so it's not even like weapons the movie or whatever,
which I think is interesting that that goes back to

(50:21):
that old style of like advertising, that like the more
viral advertising that Jonathan and I have said that we've
liked in the past.

Speaker 2 (50:28):
So oh yeah, no, I love it when people come
up with clever ways to advertise stuff. I mean not
to go off on a huge tangent, but some of
my fondest memories of going to science fiction conventions when
I was a kid would be collecting stuff that was

(50:48):
distributed as promotional material for movies. Like you don't really
see that that much anymore unless it's something that's like
done in conjunction with like a happy meal at McDonald's
or whatever. But at conventions you would get you know,
buttons like pins to wear that would have, you know,
movie logos and slogans and stuff on them. You get
movie posters. I had a Buckeroo Bonzai headband. I still

(51:11):
have it, like the kind that they wear in the movie.
I've got a Buckeroo Bonzi headband from Team Bonzai. And yeah,
that was kind of stuff that I loved because it
was this tangible object that helped promote this movie. Or
the case that I think is the most brilliant ever
was at a screening of a movie where at the

(51:34):
end when people were coming out, some of the cars
that were in the parking lot had black video cassettes
just sitting on them, and if you went home and
put the video cassette in your VCR, it would play
the video from the ring as a promotion for the ring.
And like, what a brilliant idea, how creepy that would be.
So whenever anything like that happens, whenever anyone gets creative

(51:57):
with the way that they promote their film, I get excited.

Speaker 1 (52:00):
Yeah, I because I'm an actor in Atlanta where this films.
I have a little bit of like insight into the movie,
not enough to spoil it for me, so I'll still
need to read the common sense media review, but again
enough to pique my interest. You can bet on that.

Speaker 2 (52:18):
Ah, A nice segue. So our next story is for
a series. It's based off I think manga series, but
it's called bet and the premise here is the setting
is a prestigious like boarding school where lots of movers

(52:39):
and shakers go, and this young woman is attending there.
Her parents attended there, but her parents had both been
murdered and she's determined, she is certain someone from the
school is responsible, so she's determined to find out who
it is and to get her revenge. Meanwhile, this school,
very elevated, like very magical in some ways, has like

(53:03):
all these crazy weird archetype type characters, like the children
of like criminal warlords and politicians and stars and stuff
like that.

Speaker 1 (53:16):
I think it's important to say that this is not
just a prestigious school for movers and shakers. It's supposed
to be a prestigious schools for like the powerful bad guys.

Speaker 2 (53:27):
Yeah, specifically. And it turns out that the social strata
in this school is largely determined by gambling, and if
you are really good at gambling, then you tend to
rise up the social ranks of this school, and so
this young woman who is now attending the school and
is searching for her parents' killers, is attempting to move

(53:53):
up the ranks and to infiltrate and take it all
down from the inside. And it definitely is very it's
not realistic, like it's it's not a realistic thing, but
it looks fun.

Speaker 1 (54:07):
It does. I can't like part of it. It's like, oh,
it's too teeny bopper teenmy soap drop drama for me.
And the other part of me is like, this feels
very like Scott Pilgrim.

Speaker 2 (54:17):
Yeah, I would say. I would say it's like a
mix between Scott Pilgrim and on the far extreme Battle Royale,
but it's it doesn't look nearly as grim as Battle Royale.
It looks like it's violent, but not like like but
in it she yes, not distressingly violent the way Battle
Royale was.

Speaker 1 (54:38):
Yeah, yeah, I actually have interest in this. It's going
to come out on Netflix. I will probably watch it.

Speaker 2 (54:45):
Yeah, I'll say, like, the little trailer makes the lead
look very charismatic. I liked what I saw. I love
like there's a little sequence where she's winning at different
games and it starts off with poker where she's like
Royal Flush and then Blackjack and then Bingo, and she's

(55:05):
so excited about getting Bingo, and I was just like,
I love this. I don't I assume that that's the
character putting on an act in order to get to
get under her enemy's skin. But it's thinker is.

Speaker 1 (55:16):
Such an interesting one because that's that's a very hard
game to rig, yeah, or cheat at.

Speaker 2 (55:23):
Well, and most of the time, most of the time,
there's no logic to this. It's like people are good
at gambling just because they're good at gambling.

Speaker 1 (55:29):
Yeah, you know, she's a good guy pretending to be
bad in theory, So let's talk about traditionally bad guys.
What are getting a sympathetic treatment.

Speaker 2 (55:39):
Yeah, at least half of them are. We got a
trailer or a teaser for Predator bad Lands. I call
it more of a trailer than a teaser. It was
longer than what I yea and in it we see
that there is there's a there's a conflict between at
least two predators. We don't know what the nature of

(56:00):
that conflict is, but there's a predator who is walking
around in large part in this teaser without his helmet
and also seeking out stuff. Looks like it's on an
alien planet of some sort. Humans are involved, or at
least humanoid. Yeah, it was about to say might be robots.
It's hard to say.

Speaker 1 (56:21):
That's someone who looks like a human played by l Fanning.

Speaker 2 (56:24):
Yeah, I thought the trailer looked exciting.

Speaker 1 (56:29):
Me too. I you know, I never really needed a
sympathetic Predator, but I'm excited to see what they do
with it. The it's by the same team who did Prey,
which was the Predator prequel that everybody I know who
watched it absolutely loved it, and the same team behind
the Predator anthology series. We're getting kind of so I'm interested.

Speaker 2 (56:54):
Yeah, me too. I still haven't seen Prey, so me neither.
In fact, I've only seen the first two Predator movies.
I don't have any real recollection of the second one.

Speaker 1 (57:05):
I mean, they're all kind of the same for the
most part. I've been told exception of like maybe it's
one of the alien versus Predator movies. But they really
missed out on having the second movie be called Eat
in the third movie be.

Speaker 2 (57:23):
Called Love, Oh Pray, Eat Love as opposed to Okay.
So when you said second movie you mean following Pray God. Yes,
yeh yeah. Well, moving on from that joke, let's talk
about something that is deadly serious. That is Oh, that
is the teeny bop musical horror mash up sequel Zombies

(57:47):
four Dawn of the Vampires.

Speaker 1 (57:50):
Yeah, I'm kind of we haven't really talked about Zombies
two or three, so I'm kind of surprised we're talking
about four. But it is a musical camp way. It's
zombies for but it's about.

Speaker 2 (58:04):
Vampires and day walkers, so two different types of vampires.

Speaker 1 (58:09):
Yeah, and like there was a previous Zombies that also
I think had wear wolves in it.

Speaker 2 (58:16):
I don't know, Yeah, because I mean it turns out
that zombies themselves are not that interesting, and after a while,
you've got to introduce other types of monsters into your story. Yeah,
it is done like a Sleepway camp type show or film.
I'm assuming it's a show. I don't even know really,
But with the day walkers versus vampire storyline, I'm like, oh,

(58:38):
is this like the rich kids across the Lake versus
the Camp of Misfits kind of storyline, except you've changed
it to vampires and day walkers.

Speaker 1 (58:48):
Yeah. That would be funny. That would be funny. Yeah,
that would actually be funny.

Speaker 2 (58:54):
Yeah. I don't know that I would watch it, but
I like it as a concept.

Speaker 1 (58:58):
Same said, I like his concepts. That I haven't watched
as well are most of season one of Wednesday, but
we finally got a teaser for season two.

Speaker 2 (59:08):
Yeah. I also haven't watched the first season of Wednesday.
I've heard I've heard like mixed things about it, you know,
like like Jenna Ortega is good in it, but the
the some of the other characters and storylines and stuff
were less interesting to a lot of people. So Jenna
Ortega shown in a in something that wasn't as good

(59:30):
as she is.

Speaker 1 (59:31):
Yeah, I mean there were a lot of cool things
in it, some of the plotlines were a little men like.
I've watched about half of it, I would say, and
then I just there were other things that I was
more interested in, and I intended to go back, and
I just never did. I do.

Speaker 2 (59:46):
Like.

Speaker 1 (59:46):
I love Catherine Zada Jones. She feels not. You wouldn't
think so, because she plays she plays Martitia Adams, and
you think that would be right up her alley. But
for some reason, just her and God who plays Gomez,

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was it Louise Guzman. Yeah, her and Louise Guzman. While
they have a good chemistry, they don't have that fun
like eff spark, which is weird to say about goth people,
but yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:00:22):
But Raul Julia and Angelica Houston like they could set
the screen on fire if they had wanted to.

Speaker 1 (01:00:28):
Yeah, yeah, And there was just like a little bit
of impish quirk to them that I feel is not
quite there in season one of It Wednesday. They're both
phenomenal actors, so I was I was very disappointed by that,
but I didn't get to some of the more fun
characters like Fester or anything like that in the series.
I am. I will probably go back and finish it

(01:00:50):
and watch it simply because Jenna Ortega has had a
much bigger hand in season two, co producing it with
Tim Burton and like. Reports have said that they've taken out,
like some of the love interest storylines because that's not
important to the character, and refocused on some other stuff,
and I am very interested interested to see how the

(01:01:12):
show has changed with her taking more of a guiding
role in the show.

Speaker 2 (01:01:19):
I've also heard that there was some behind the scenes
issues too, that I don't want to get into because
I don't I honestly am not really familiar with it.
But apparently there were some accusations against one of the
actors who played one of the romantic interest characters from
what I understand, but again I haven't friend of the show.

(01:01:40):
Shay Lee tipped me on to that, but I haven't.
I haven't personally looked into it. Yeah, so I don't
know what that is. But obviously that would have an
impact as well, and from what she was saying, it
was like one of those unfortunate things where again I
haven't watched the first season, so I don't know how
any of this shakes out. But apparently there like two

(01:02:01):
potential romantic interests, one of whom turns out to not
be a good character and one that does. But like
you're misled earlier on in the series as to which
is which, and unfortunately, the one who turns out to
be the quote unquote better choice at the end of
the season was apparently played by someone who did some

(01:02:23):
bad things. But again I haven't looked into it personally,
so this could all be from me misunderstanding what shay
was saying. So I don't want to put it on her.
It's not her fault. I had not looked into it.
But obviously if something like that is the case, then
that would be another good reason to remove romantic storylines

(01:02:43):
from your plot, because you don't want to deal with that.

Speaker 1 (01:02:47):
Yeah, and it's not that Wenesday. I don't know. In
the original series to Wednesday ever have romantic.

Speaker 2 (01:02:53):
Not really no, I mean like in Adam's Family Values
there's a young Nebbish boy who who kind of gets
a crush on her at camp and she is sort
of interested in him, but is it's kind of despite herself,
And then in the stage musical there's she has a
love interest, but generally speaking.

Speaker 1 (01:03:15):
No, Yeah, so I don't even think you need it, Like,
I get that people want that, you know, and me too.
I fall I'm like, you don't need a love you
can just have friendships. But then, like, I'm totally a
romantic oftentimes and I'll rail against it, but I do
like the love stories, but I don't think it's necessary.

(01:03:38):
And yeah, like I appreciate your caution with discussing it,
because this isn't this isn't like casting aspersions on anybody.
Because I have very good friends and I do it
myself too, where I'll read a headline and pass something
on and then like it's misleading. So I always like
to look into stuff myself before.

Speaker 2 (01:03:59):
Yeah, and since I haven't done that, I probably shouldn't
even mentioned anything, but just thinking that sometimes behind the
scenes stuff can play a part two. We also got
an actual trailer for Love, Death, and Robots season four.
We talked earlier about a teaser that gave very brief

(01:04:19):
looks into some of the different animation styles and stories
that we'd be seeing, but this one we got a
little bit more, and yeah, it looks intense.

Speaker 1 (01:04:29):
It does, though, I mean we got away a lot
of the same stuff that was in the teasers. In
the trailer, there's like some more. Honestly, they flesh out
the cat character from the teaser a lot more, which
is interesting for them to focus on the thing that
struck me in the trailer versus the teaser. Is is

(01:04:51):
it Reese Darby? Yes, Reecee Darby is just flat out
in this animated anthology as a real live action human
and it hurt my brain.

Speaker 2 (01:05:04):
Yeah. Well, I mean there certainly have been plenty of
cases of mixing live action and animation in the past,
like whether you're talking about rotoscoping or you're talking about
actually incorporating live action and animation in the same frame,
Roger Rabbit being a big example, or you also have
the tradition of cartoon network showing live action programming instead

(01:05:28):
of cartoons and making my brain break because I'm like,
that's not what your network says.

Speaker 1 (01:05:34):
Yeah, yeah, it just it surprised me. Yeah, but I
get it. You know, You've got all these different artists
who want to tell different stories different ways, and this
is their platform. My friends love it. They're trying to
get us to watch it for the group watch. I'm
trying to get us to watch a Bondsman and then
we're gonna see if everybody buys Apple TV to watch
murder Bot. But if I start watching this, I will

(01:05:55):
let you know.

Speaker 2 (01:05:56):
Yeah, I have a feeling there's going to be quite
a few of the entries in this lists that are
not really your cup of tea.

Speaker 1 (01:06:03):
Me too, which is why I haven't watched it previously.

Speaker 2 (01:06:07):
Yeah. I mean, I think all the animation and stuff
looks incredible. I expect that the stories are pretty, you know,
remarkable in different ways. But I feel like if you
don't have a high tolerance for the sexy schexy stuff
or the super violent stuff. It's gonna be a rough

(01:06:29):
time for you.

Speaker 1 (01:06:30):
I can do some super violent in cartoons, like I
do watch Invincible, though I haven't watched the latest season.
And I did watch Secret Level, which is also I
think done by the Love Death and Robots people.

Speaker 2 (01:06:41):
Yeah's the one where it's all the different video game
characters being reimagined in different ways.

Speaker 1 (01:06:46):
Yeah. And the art it was a lot of CGI,
so I would say it wasn't as diverse in its
you know styles media. Yeah, the animation styles were different
for some of them, not all of them. The stories
were very hit or miss for me in Secret Level,
but like, the violence didn't bother me. One there was

(01:07:07):
one thing that I was like, huh, but I handled it.
It was fine. But yeah, I'm not I have only
a moderate tolerance for sexy SCHMEXI I realized that that
sounds weird from a person who has seen several seasons
of Outlander and Bridgerton.

Speaker 2 (01:07:23):
But well, our last story is a bittersweet one. There
is a two part documentary coming out in just a
few weeks for about Pee Wee Herman it's called Kiwi
as himself and Paul Rubins participated in this documentary before

(01:07:46):
his passing. This was when he knew about his diagnosis.
So when he passed away, he actually he actually had
a statement apologizing for the fact that he had not
shared his health status with the wide world. Like he

(01:08:07):
said that it was a pleasure making art for you
and like his very sweet heartfelt goodbye.

Speaker 1 (01:08:12):
You know, he's not like he was a public figure,
but he's not required to share his personal health stuff
with people.

Speaker 2 (01:08:19):
Sure, yeah, absolutely, But it was more like I think
he was apologizing because he figured that this was something
that was going to take a lot of people by surprise.
And when you heard about more about him, he sounded
like the kind of person who was just truly remarkable
to his friends. Like there were people who said, like, yeah,
like he would remember your birthday and every year he

(01:08:41):
would send you a message on your birthday to usually
in a weird and silly way, to wish you a
happy birthday. That kind of stuff, like just very sweet things.
And this documentary goes into the good, the bad, and
the ugly of his life, like everything from his time
with the Groundlings where he developed the pe wee Herman
character or originally to you know, obviously his great success

(01:09:05):
as that character, to when he was doing other stuff
as well as like his run ends with the Law.
So yeah, I think it's gonna be a compelling watch.
I am very much looking forward to seeing it. I
got a little emotional watching the trailer.

Speaker 1 (01:09:21):
Yeah, I got a little bit like there was a
period of time where he was, like I was famous,
so I lost my anonymity and that was when they
were showing clips from his run ins with the law,
and it felt a little bit like he he did
say he didn't want to play the victim, and like
I had mixed feelings about that, because, yeah, it is
very hard when your your life is under a microscope,

(01:09:44):
especially if you are a person who, as Jonathan pointed
out in some of our conversations about it, because you know,
we chat throughout the week, if you're a person who
maybe is not anti standard human being, no gotcha?

Speaker 2 (01:10:01):
Yeah, well yeah, Like you know, he was very private
in many ways, Like he had a very public facing persona,
but he was a very private person well on a
personal level. And you know, it's I'm sure that the
documentary will take a fairly positive view of him overall.

(01:10:26):
I don't I can't see this as being like some
sort of smear campaign now, But I mean, he was
a human being, Like any human being, he made some
decisions that were probably not the best, but you know,
in the grand scheme of things, especially when you look
at Hollywood, certainly don't rak among the worst. I mean,
there were suspicions about him that were certainly among the worst,

(01:10:49):
right like the bad, bad stuff, But none of that
ended up being substantiated, at least not to a point
that would meet a legal standard. So whether the documentary
goes into deep detail about that or not, we'll have
to see. But you know, as someone who was a
very gifted entertainer and appeared to be like a genuinely

(01:11:10):
good friend to people, I think it'll be an interesting watch.
I also I got a little caught up when they
showed clips from his original HBO special from the early
nineteen eighties, because that was when Phil Hartman played the
part of Captain Carl and that remains one of my

(01:11:31):
favorite comedy specials of all time. Is that original Pewee
Herman HBO special. This was before he had the Kids show.
It's presented like it's a kid's show, but it's not
for kids, it's for adults. And Captain Carl was one
of my favorite characters. And just seeing Phil Hartman, you know,
footage of Phil Hartman again got me a little weepy.

(01:11:53):
So I'm very much looking forward to the documentary. I
look forward to learning more about this complicated person. Yeah,
and their their journey. I mean, like, I still like
a lot of his stuff he did that wasn't pee
weee like I mean, still, I think the best part
of the movie version of Buffy the Vampire Slayer.

Speaker 1 (01:12:14):
I agree. I was just about to bring that up.
I did like pee wee Herman's Playhouse the actual kids show.
I don't, Yeah, yeah, I don't. I don't think I
was allowed to watch the HBO version, you know, kind
of like a kid friendly version of Andy Kaufman.

Speaker 2 (01:12:28):
Yeah. Yeah, very performance and he talks in the in
the trailer for the documentary about how he wanted to
be a performance artist so very much in the in
the lines of an Andy Kaufman.

Speaker 1 (01:12:38):
Yeah. But like I loved him in Buffy the Vampire Slayer,
and even though his character was gross to me and
mystery men, I thought he was very funny as the Spleen.
The Spleen he was in Batman's Returns and Flight to
the Navigator and a bunch of stuff. I you know,
I did like I did like the things that I
saw him in. I thought he was very funny. And

(01:13:00):
it is interesting because he does mention in the trailer
that like it is. It was weird for him to
participate in this documentary about himself without him leading it,
because he wasn't. He's not the person who ended up
editing it or saying yes, this gets to stay, this
gets to go, don't talk about this. He just participated
in it. So I agree. I think it will be

(01:13:22):
a kind and honest, but kind homage to what he
brought to the world of comedy and entertainment.

Speaker 2 (01:13:30):
Yeah, yeah, I don't. Again, maybe in the future will
get a different one which will be a little bit
more you know critical.

Speaker 1 (01:13:36):
Do we need that? Though?

Speaker 2 (01:13:38):
I don't think so, Like I mean, assuming that he's
actually innocent of the more you know, sinister accusations, then
I don't think we need anything like that. But part
of me worries, like you know, you worry, like you're like,
did it turn out that all this time, I'm enjoying
the work of and maybe to some extent, idolizing someone

(01:13:58):
who did some things that I find repugnant. As far
as I know, that's not the case, but you know,
you worry because, like, Hollywood is full of people who
did terrible, terrible things, and when you find out about
you're like, gosh, I used to like your stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:14:13):
I mean, that is true. I've had this conversation, especially
in the last ten years, has been a more prominent conversation.
I kind of came to the my friends kind of
came to the realization that, like, it is not to
say that I am I am glad that Paul Rubens
is dead, because I'm not, But it is easier to

(01:14:33):
enjoy someone's portfolio of work separate from the person that
they were once they have passed on.

Speaker 2 (01:14:42):
Well, yeah, that becomes literal death of the author at
that point, because death of the author describes that ability
to separate the person from the art that they create.
And I don't know that that's always merited. Like in
Paul Rubins's case, I mean, you know, you enjoy his
stuff and not a penny of it's going to him

(01:15:02):
because he's passed on. With other people. Obviously, it's more
complicated if they're still alive. Like you might be able
to separate the art from the artist, but if your
enjoyment of the art means that you're benefiting the artist
who continues to be a bad person, that's tough.

Speaker 1 (01:15:17):
Yeah, for sure, for sure, that is all we have
to talk about. And before we get into a whole
diatribe about death of the author, I think we should,
which is my fault. We should probably wrap it up
for today.

Speaker 2 (01:15:33):
That sounds good to me. Let's wrap it up.

Speaker 1 (01:15:35):
Let's wrap it up, Jonathan. Yeah, how do people attempt
to contact you?

Speaker 2 (01:15:42):
Okay, so this summer I hadn't planned on doing this,
but now, like I kind of got roped into it.
If you want to get in touch with me, you're
gonna have to go to this little summer camp out
in the woods. It's gonna be really irritating because the
closer you get, the more you're gonna realize, oh my god,

(01:16:03):
everyone's singing, and I bet there's choreography. And as you
get closer, it's sure enough it's gonna be the case.
Not only that, but you're gonna see like everyone is
waving their hands around in the air as if it's
doing stuff, and you realize, oh, no, they're all pretending
to be wizards or monsters or something. You're gonna have
to wade through all of these people. By the way,

(01:16:25):
most of them are gonna be in there, like early
to mid twenties, but they're gonna pretend like they're teenagers.
And you're gonna have to get through all of this
stuff listening to a lot of songs that are frankly
just okay at best, and you're gonna have to get
to the guidance counselor cabin. When you get there, it's

(01:16:45):
very important here you need to knock four times before
opening the door. And they're in the darkest corner of
the cabin. You're gonna see a pair of shoes and
you're gonna walk up and you're gonna say Jonathan, and
then from behind you're gonna hear, what do you want?
And you got to turn around there I am sitting
there without my shoes on. Turns out, yeah, the shoes

(01:17:05):
were just poking out of the corner at the base
of a chair and it wasn't actually me. And then
you can ask me your question.

Speaker 1 (01:17:12):
Very interesting if you don't want to do that. You
can reach out to us on social media. The thing
is like, I didn't have anything clever, but I know
people are going to want to do that. It's whether
they can do that anyhow. You can also reach out
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(01:17:57):
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And until next time, I am Ariel got to put
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Speaker 2 (01:18:23):
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I thought I thought it was from Zamado.

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