LNC Does Some Dangerous Time Traveling

From popcorn bucket time machines to a list of Halloween movie recommendations a mile long, Ariel and Jonathan chat about all things geeky.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:10):
Hey, everybody, Welcome to the Large ner Droun Collider podcast,
the podcast that's all about the geeky things happening in
the world around us and how very excited we are
about them. I'm Ariel Caston, and with me, as always,
is the amazing Jonathan Strickland.

Speaker 2 (00:24):
I was working in the lab late last night.

Speaker 1 (00:28):
Many Something Something Something.

Speaker 2 (00:30):
Site always always quick on the draw to pick up
those lyrics, so good at them. Yeah, I am obviously
continuing my journey toward enjoying the the spookiest of spooky seasons.
So I'm reveling and I'm sad that before long we

(00:53):
will transition from spooky season to thankful season.

Speaker 1 (00:59):
Yeah that's well, I like thankful season.

Speaker 2 (01:02):
But okay, I oh, I like thankful season, and now
I'm thankful that I just remembered I need to look
into where I'm going to order food.

Speaker 1 (01:11):
That is a good idea, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:14):
Because we're not like we're going to visit my parents
for Thanksgiving, and the idea is that we want to
keep the whole actual cooking to a minimum, because ain't
nobody want to spend all day cooking. So there are
quite a few restaurants in Atlanta that do great like
takeaway meals where you order it before Thanksgiving and then

(01:38):
you just heat it up on the day, although I
have to make sure I get one that has already
cooked the turkey and it's not just a raw turkey,
which I could buy for much less money at a
grocery store.

Speaker 3 (01:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:54):
Yeah, I you know my household always does.

Speaker 3 (01:59):
We cook a lot.

Speaker 1 (02:02):
We've finally started like reaching out to the people who
usually come in town to be like, hey, are you
are you visiting? So we're slowly pulling that together. But
I can't even look at like I I was gonna say,
I just do the baking, but I don't. I also
make butter, and I make cranberry sauce, and I make
punch and then I make some desserts.

Speaker 2 (02:24):
Yeah, but you you thrive on people loving your food.
It's just the actual work that's tough. So you you
bring this on yourself.

Speaker 1 (02:35):
Cast in I do. I do, but I haven't even
started yet. The problem is I do love baking like
I like. I love the work too, which is because
I'm dealing with a sore back right now.

Speaker 2 (02:46):
It makes it harder harder.

Speaker 1 (02:48):
Yeah, doing all the because my kitchen is not I
have a lot of really good space, but it needs
a renovation, like the there's a whole bunch in my
house that's made for Like my house was built in
the eighties and so it's all a little bit shorter
than modern houses, which is great for short people. But
I am not a short people.

Speaker 2 (03:09):
No, as Ariel is famous for saying short people got
no reason to live.

Speaker 1 (03:14):
That is not at all true. But I am five ten,
which means that if I have to bend over to
wash my hands and my back is hurting, then I'm
doing a plea to wash my hands, and it's really awkward.

Speaker 2 (03:25):
What we need to do is get you like some
sort of very high chair on casters where you can
just wheel around, like it's like some sort of science
fiction setting.

Speaker 1 (03:35):
I love sitting in high chairs. I can pretend I'm
a dollic, a dolic making gallic rules.

Speaker 2 (03:42):
Now sorry, yeah, it would be dollic bread. Yeah, but
with a lot of garlic on it.

Speaker 3 (03:49):
Yeah yeah.

Speaker 1 (03:52):
So yeah. So I like Thankful Season. I also like
spoopy season. I finally finish decorating my front door.

Speaker 2 (03:59):
Well for for season. Yeah, we had we've had pump
the pumpkins that the jackal enterns that Becca designed years ago.
Like you know, we have like the foam pumpkins, uh,
and and Becca ended up making a whole bunch of
different themed pumpkins or Jacca entterns, and we always put

(04:22):
those out. And my plan since I got candy, my
plan is to sit outside, uh, assuming that the weather
is cooperative, and in case anyone sees me, they can
come up and get candy. Because if I don't sit outside,
our courtyard is so dark that I don't think anyone's

(04:42):
gonna come to the to the door. And and I
even thought about replacing the light that's on our porch,
but uh, this is just me covetching.

Speaker 1 (04:54):
Now.

Speaker 2 (04:55):
We live in like a modern townhouse. And one of
the brilliant decisions that the architects and the designers made
was to make sure that no two light light fixtures
use the same kind of bulbs. Oh now, so I
would need to actually go out, take out the bulb
that's in there and look at it to see what
I would need to order in order to get the

(05:17):
right one to reinstall, because it's not your typical light, right.
And that's the same way like our even our bathrooms
have different, different light fixtures. So I can't just get
the same bulbs for all the bathrooms because and it's
all the lights that are above the mirror. They're different,

(05:37):
they're different kinds, they have different bases. So I can't
just get the anyway, that's not that's neither here nor there.
I don't need to dwell on that. Instead, I'm going
to ask my good friend Ariel a question.

Speaker 1 (05:51):
Your question totally spend a lot of time thinking about.

Speaker 2 (05:55):
Well, I at least gave you the heads up. Yeah,
but we're we're continuing our Halloween themed questions, and my
question for Ariel was does she have any seasonally appropriate
movie recommendations? They don't have to be like super scary
or anything, but something that kind of is evocative of

(06:17):
the spirit of Halloween.

Speaker 1 (06:19):
Yeah. So I am always a huge fan of It's
the Great Pumpkin, Charlie Brown.

Speaker 2 (06:25):
Oh, great choice, I got a rock.

Speaker 1 (06:29):
It's I really like Charlie Brown and Snoopy. I loved
the little comic strips growing up. I haven't watched the
more recent movies, but I just it's a nice way
to look at all the things that people deal with.
It's something that's very accessible I feel like, but it's

(06:49):
a really great, fun, like not spooky Halloween story. Also,
this isn't necessarily a Halloween movie, but it is a
fun monster movie that I came out a while ago,
and I I just want to remind people it exists
because I enjoy watching it anytime I remember about it.

Speaker 2 (07:06):
Super eight, Oh wow, I haven't seen that in years.

Speaker 1 (07:11):
Right, Yeah, So like I like it. It's not super scary.
It's a little tense because it's a monster movie.

Speaker 2 (07:18):
But I think of that as almost like a gateway,
like you know, kind of like how Gremlins can be
a gateway movie to horror. Super eight, I think is
gateway to like sci fi thriller slash sci fi horror.

Speaker 1 (07:32):
Yeah, but I'm not huge in horror. There are hor
like Tony and I are watching through the screen movies
for Halloween. We've done hocus Pocus because I didn't watch
it until the last couple of years. We might do Weapon.
We're going to watch Weapons this spooky season. I don't
know if we're going to do it on Halloween proper.

Speaker 2 (07:49):
So what Weapons is great? You're gonna really find it,
like as an actor, you're really gonna love the performances.
The performances are phenomenal for sure.

Speaker 1 (07:59):
And then there's a lot of like suspenseful movies I like,
but none of them are coming to.

Speaker 2 (08:05):
My brain right now, that's fair, that's fair, So okay,
out of curiosity because we you and I are a
little older than the generation that grew up with Hocus Focus.
I'm a lot older. You're a little older. What is
your opinion on Hocus Focus?

Speaker 3 (08:26):
Eh?

Speaker 2 (08:27):
Yeah, see, I feel the same way. It's like, like,
I get it that when it came out to the
kids of that generation, it could be, you know, more effective.
But honestly, by the time I finally watched it, I
was like, this is what all the fuss is about.
This is But then I thought, there's probably movies that
I love that I grew up with that adults at

(08:50):
the time we had the exact same reaction, right like,
I don't want to hold myself above anyone else. I
don't think that is fitting. But yeah, I was, I
don't know, maybe not underwhelmed, but just whelmed.

Speaker 1 (09:06):
I also didn't watch Nightmare before Christmas until like last
year or the year before, and I watched it at
Christmas time because everybody says it's a Christmas movie. For me,
that's a Halloween movie. And that's another one that just
like it was built up so much and I understand,
like stop motion is a fun thing, but the storyline's

(09:28):
kind of crap.

Speaker 2 (09:29):
Yeah, it's I think it gets by on a lot
of charm from like Danny Elfman's music, all of the songs.
If you go and listen to the songs individually, there's
only a couple that are really, I think, kind of fun,
and they're all clunky there. None of them are. None
of them feel like they were incredibly well put together.

Speaker 1 (09:51):
And when you put them together, it has that rock
opera issue where there's a lot of repetition.

Speaker 2 (09:55):
Yeah, well I'm okay with that. But yeah, I I
feel like Nightmare before Christmas. I enjoy that movie, but
I enjoy it more for the esthetic and character design
and the artistry of the stop motion animation than the story.
I do feel the story is it's very tim Burton.

(10:15):
I mean, it's just such a Tim Burton kind of
feel to it. But so when I was thinking about this,
I was imagining what if I were to host like
a Halloween weekend. Sometimes I do this thing where Becca
and I will rent like a cabin someplace, and we'll
invite a bunch of our friends. Ariels been to a

(10:37):
couple of these where we will get a cabin with
enough bedrooms so that most people have a place to
sleep without having they certainly don't need to share a bed,
but usually there's at least some people being roomies for
a weekend. But I was like, if I were to
do a Halloween weekend where we were getting together and

(10:57):
eating like, you know, stuff, tasty fall themed stuff, and
watching Halloween ish movies, what would I pick? And I thought,
being the crazy person I am, I would want to
have four different types of movies for that weekend that

(11:20):
span four different subgenres of halloween slash horror. But I
didn't pick just one of each. So I've got a
lot of choices here. So if you are looking for
something to play during Halloween or around the Halloween season,
here are some of my suggestions. And this is just

(11:40):
even though it's a long list, it's just a relatively
small list out of my beloved horror genre. So first up,
if I were doing this, my first choice would be
fall into what I'm calling the family friendly slash cringe category.

(12:01):
Because some of these are not good, like they are
very much not good. They're very cringey, but that's kind
of why I love them. So in the real cringe category,
I have Teen Witch, which is truly cringe, and The
Worst Witch, which is also pretty cringe. That's the one

(12:24):
that has anything can Happen on Halloween song that Tim
Curry does. Then I also have Coraline, which I think
kind of gets you into that spirit night remember before
Christmas is on that list, Para Norman, Franken Weeney, and Muppets,
Haunted Mansion. All those I don't think are cringe, but
I think they're in that family friendly zone, so that's

(12:45):
kind of easing you in. But then you put the
kiddies to bed and we go straight to slasher movies.
So for slasher films, my recommendations are the Original Halloween,
which you know you can watch it. I don't think
has the same impact as it did when it came out,
but you can certainly appreciate it for how influential it

(13:08):
was in creating the slasher genre. Candy Man, the Original
candy Man, which I think is still an incredibly effective
horror movie.

Speaker 1 (13:18):
One of my first three horror movies I ever watched,
and I was too young to watch it. I got permission.
I'm sure everybody's heard this before I got permission. My
parents said, you can because you asked, we don't recommend it,
and they were right.

Speaker 2 (13:33):
Yeah. Now I'll say the more recent Candy Man film
is also good. Like it's not bad. I just really
like the original Texas Chainsaw Massacre. Also like the original
Texas Chainsaw Massacre, which I would say, if you're watching it,
you're watching it more to get an appreciation for the
very early days of the slasher genre. I don't think

(13:57):
it's a particularly good movie, but it's an important one.
House of a Thousand Corpses also not a good movie,
but really entertaining. Friday the Thirteenth Part four. If you're
gonna watch a Friday the Thirteenth movie, I recommend either
Part four Part ten aka Jason Goes to Space if
you just want to laugh, or the Friday the Thirteenth remake,

(14:19):
which is a decent slasher film. Black Phone another good option,
or screen the original screen. Then after slasher films, we
move into the spooky scary subgenre like ghosts and witches,
so in that I would recommend The Black Coat's Daughter

(14:42):
by Osgood Perkins. By the way, these are movies where,
like the previous one, the slasher film, you can have
like fun conversations while the movie's playing. That kind of thing.
These are the movies where if you're really going to
try and enjoy the movie, people have to kind of
pay attention, Like it can't just be on in the background.
That's not that type of movie. But yeah, so Black

(15:03):
Code's Daughter very much one where you need to pay attention.
The Witch the movie made by Robert Eggers, or Nosferatu
also by Robert Eggers, The Changeling by Peter Medek. That's
like a nineteen eighty ghost movie Suspiria. And you might say, wait, Jonathan,
do you mean the nineteen seventy seven Dario Argento movie

(15:25):
or do you mean the twenty eighteen Luca Guadagino movie.
And my answer is yes, both of them. They're They're
both kind of it's like if you took the same
basic idea and then went in two directions with that
basic idea and they're both amazing. They're both worth watching.
Hell House LLC. If you want to see a more

(15:47):
modern spooky film, which I think is fairly well done.
The Exorcist is still a classic, or The Exorsis three,
which is a very different movie but I think is phenomenal.
And then finally, the last sub genre I just call fun.
These are fun horror films. They're not meant to be

(16:09):
taken seriously. A lot of them are horror comedies. And
I'm starting off with one that Ariel thinks is an
actual horror movie. Oh God, Killer Clowns from Outer Space. Yep,
it is not a horror movie. It is a stupid
movie and it's great and it's got amazing music by
the Dickies. And Ariel is wrong. It's not scary. She

(16:32):
is entitled to her incorrect opinion and she just saw
it at the wrong time because it's I mean, they
are grotesque looking clowns, but they don't look real.

Speaker 1 (16:44):
It's like the so like the popcorn bit and then
the bit where they wrap people up in cotton candy
and suck out their innards like that upsets me. I'm
not even afraid of clowns. The movie upset me.

Speaker 2 (16:56):
Well, they're not sucking out their innards, they're sucking out
their blood. They're just vampires that look like clowns and
they're from outer space.

Speaker 1 (17:03):
I still don't like it.

Speaker 2 (17:04):
Okay, well, I recommend too. I recommend it or Sean
of the Dead Trick or Treat, which is a fantastic
Halloween movie. It's an anthology Halloween movie, so there's like
multiple short films kind of all collected in a bookend

(17:25):
Tucker and Dale Versus Evil is a fun horror comedy
slasher movie Ready or Not, which is the kind of
the the hide and seek themed horror movie from a
couple of years ago. Zombie Land is another good one.
The Frighteners is great. Jeffrey Combs is so entertaining in

(17:48):
that movie. What we do in the Shadows very fun.
I'm talking about the film here, not the series, but
both are great. Evil Dead two One Cut of the
Dead I cannot recommend that highly enough and it's the
kind of movie that you need to see without reading
anything because part of what makes the movie so fun

(18:11):
is discovery. I will say it's not scary. One Cut
of the Dead is not a scary movie. It is
a joyous movie, but don't read anything about it because
it will ruin what makes the movie special. Happy Death
Day is another good one. American Werewolf in London is
one of my favorites. It's a little more probably lands

(18:32):
a little harder on the horror side for a lot
of people, but I like it as a horror comedy.
Little Shop of Horrors if you want to have a
musical horror movie, or Beetlejuice.

Speaker 1 (18:44):
So see, I love the musical. I didn't put the
movie on my list because the movie's just.

Speaker 3 (18:49):
Okay to me, the movie musical, the movie Beetlejuice.

Speaker 2 (18:54):
Oh oh, Beetlejuice. Oh okay. Yeah, I thought you were
talking about Little Shop of Horrors. I was like, you
could have, because you could have been talking about the
original Roger Korman movie that had Jack Nicholson in it.

Speaker 1 (19:06):
No, no, no, the musical version is the way to
go with work moranas. Uh, there are a few more,
you've you've jogged my memory. There are a few more
I want to add to the list of recommendations. Sure,
Warm Bodies m M, which is a zombie retelling of
Romeo and Juliet with Nicholas Holt, so wonderful. Fido is

(19:27):
that the one where John Cleese plays a zombie.

Speaker 2 (19:32):
I don't know. I have not seen Fido.

Speaker 1 (19:36):
Yes, so Fido is. It's like a society. It came
out in two thousand and six, a society where humanity
has narrowly won a war against a zombie outbreak and
technologily allows for zombies to be used as working slaves
or pets. And John Cleese plays the predominant zombie. It's
a very fun movie.

Speaker 2 (19:53):
I remember, I remember I might even have this on
DVD somewhere, but I have never watched it.

Speaker 3 (19:58):
I remember.

Speaker 2 (20:01):
Learning about that.

Speaker 1 (20:03):
I think you should watch it. I think you would
enjoy it. For Evil Dead, I am more of a
fan of Army of Darkness.

Speaker 2 (20:13):
Well, Army of Yeah, Army of Darkness is a sillier
movie than Evil Dead two is silly. Army of Darkness
is even sillier. Yeah, But it's also it's also almost
more in action fantasy than horror, even though the bad
guys are all these kind of like undead creatures.

Speaker 1 (20:32):
I mean, for sure, but like I don't know, fantasy
monster movies still fit into that genre for me, But
I'm not a huge like horror horror fan.

Speaker 2 (20:41):
Sure.

Speaker 1 (20:41):
And then if you want something interactive and you have
a game cube or you can get access to a
game cube, the video game Eternal Darkness. My favorite thing
I used to watch on Halloween was a friend playing
through the game for the first time.

Speaker 2 (20:57):
Yeah, because when that's a game where your character sanity
is a game mechanic, and as your character sanity decreases
due to various things that happen in the game, stuff
happens that is meta, that's outside the game itself, Like
it may suddenly look like, why is my television volume

(21:17):
going down for no reason? And it turns out it'll
be with you, yeah, or it'll it'll act like it
just kicked you out into the menu, usually just as
something is attacking you.

Speaker 1 (21:30):
Sometimes it'll it'll turn off the screen. There's also the
one where like your control stop working correctly.

Speaker 2 (21:36):
Yeah, it'll it'll inverse all the controls. Yeah, I had
that game. It was it was one of my favorite
games on that system.

Speaker 1 (21:45):
And it's it's delightful to watch either someone play through
it for the first time. And I've mind you, I've
never played it. I've only watched people play it or
watching other people watch other people play it who have
never seen it before. It's just a light.

Speaker 2 (22:00):
Yeah, it's it's got some really fun gimmicks to it.
And the story gets real confusing, but it's a it's
a yeah, it's not really the point. Yeah, there's a
lot of like jumping into different historical time frames and
inhabiting the body of different characters, but the predominant storyline
you're playing as a woman who did she inherit the house?

(22:25):
I can't remember, I think, so, yeah, anyway, she's she's
going to a house that I believe belonged to one
of her relatives and is uh kind of gets involved
in a whole curse situation.

Speaker 3 (22:39):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (22:39):
Yeah, so those those are my added recommendations.

Speaker 2 (22:42):
Good ones. Okay, well, then let us transition to talk
about stuff what we've seen since the last time we
talked with each other. And I'll just go quickly because
I look to see but I haven't really picked anything
up since Marvel Zombies, And the only thing I've really
watched is I just started watching Elementary. I never watched

(23:04):
it when it was on. You know, I think some
people fell into either you were a Sherlock fan or
an Elementary fan, and some people were both, but there
were largely two camps. And at the time I was
a Sherlock fan, but after series two it alienated me
and I stopped being a Sharlock fan and I never
jumped onto Elementary. So I've just started watching and I

(23:27):
think it's okay. I don't think it's bad, but I
don't think it's great. And it may just be that
I'm so early into the series that it hasn't fully
clicked with me yet.

Speaker 1 (23:39):
For me, I'm continuing to watch task Master. I'm on
series five. It's just dropped because I'm watching it backwards.
It's the first it's the last series before they bumped
up to ten episodes, so it's going much quicker now
and I'll get through it very fast. I'm still watching
through Venture Brothers and we just start.

Speaker 2 (23:59):
Oh.

Speaker 1 (24:00):
I started the Fall of Theazi Fang, which is campaign
for critical Role. Some of my time is taking up
rewatching my actual place, which is I love doing them
and it's a nightmare for me to rewatch everybody else
does a great job. I'm just very critical of myself.
It's something that I need to get over, so it's
a good thing to do. But also to pull social

(24:22):
media eclips because I've offered to do that, so that
takes up a good bit of my time. But we
just started watching the pit on HBO. It's not necessarily
a geeky but it's really.

Speaker 2 (24:32):
Good medical procedural. Yeah. I've heard good things. I have
not watched it yet.

Speaker 1 (24:37):
Yeah, it's I mean some of it is hard. It
is definitely hard because they do deal with death, and
they deal with the pandemic, and they deal with all
kinds of hard situations like you would in a trauma
er center, especially in Pittsburgh. Like it kind of gets
the tone, right.

Speaker 3 (24:54):
You know.

Speaker 1 (24:54):
I'm not from there, but my husband is, and it
kind of gets the tone of the city, right. And
like we were watching the first episode, my husband's like, see
that's the PPG building and I'm like, yeap, yes it is.
But it is basically Er meets twenty four. Each season
is one day, twelve hours, a twelve hour shift. Yeah,

(25:20):
and it's really cool because it doesn't just stay with
the same person, so it does jump around person to person,
But each episode is one hour of that twelve hour shift,
or at least for season one, season two, I don't
know how long it is. But it does a really
good job of balancing the serious with the humorous, so
there are delightful moments of levity. The cast is amazing.

(25:41):
Apparently the lead in the Pit was one of the
leads in ER. I never watched ER, but like even
I listened to saw Bones, which is Justin McElroy and
his wife Sydney smirl McElroy talking about medical history, and
she loves it too, and she's a general practitioner. So
I'm like, well, it's got a medical person I likes approval.

Speaker 2 (26:03):
Yeah, it's got the seal of approval from doctor Smurle McElroy.

Speaker 1 (26:07):
So yes, so that's what I've watched.

Speaker 2 (26:11):
That's great. Well, then let us move along to our
thirty seconds or less, which is I think our longest
segment this week. But of course each piece in Theory
will only be thirty seconds, so we should blast through it.
Am I first, I don't have the spreadsheet, open your first, Yes,
I'm first, Okay, here we go. As of this recording,

(26:32):
Paramount has made two unsuccessful bids to merge with Warner
Brothers Discovery, and the Writer's Guild of America hopes to
keep it that way. Representatives from the WGA say that
the giant movie studio mergers would decrease competition and eliminate jobs. Generally,
that does tend to be the case, so the WGA
plans to work with regulators to try and keep this

(26:53):
merger from happening.

Speaker 1 (26:56):
Next, the Broadway strike that we had talked about earlier
is currently not happening. Musicians reached a tentative deal Thursday
at four point thirty in the morning, just before everybody
was about to go on strike. That is very fortunate,
as Jonathan and I have a friend currently in New
York was seeing one of her favorite shows that day.

Speaker 3 (27:17):
Yesterday.

Speaker 1 (27:18):
Wow, Lena was in New York to see Chess on Thursday.

Speaker 2 (27:24):
Oh it makes sense. I should have guessed it was
Lena and it was Chess because she's seen it in Europe.
So yeah, yeah, not a big surprise. That's the one. Okay,
this is going to be out thirty seconds or less
because not the Sten we talk about Chess. I'll be
very curious. You'll have to relate to me what her
opinion is, because I'm not on social anymore. But you

(27:47):
have to relate to me what she thought because I
know the book of that musical is very different from
previous versions of it, so I'm curious to hear what
her thoughts are. Okay, back in twenty twenty two, a
stage musical adaptation of the nineteen eighty four film The
Karate Kid, played in Saint Louis, Missouri. Now that show

(28:08):
is about to go on tour in the UK before
moving on to the West End. Robert Mark Kahman, who
wrote the original film, also wrote the book for that show.
Drew Gasparini wrote the music and lyrics, and I sure
do hope they have a musical number and dance sequence
to wax On wax Off.

Speaker 1 (28:28):
I have so many mixed feelings about that. But something
I'm pretty chill with is the announcement that Coleman Domingo
will be voicing the cowardly Lyon in the second part
of the new Wicked movies, Wicked for Good. People were
thinking that that voice actor was going to be revealed
during the Red Carpet, but he just announced it on Instagram.

(28:51):
I'm not hugely familiar with Colman Domingo's work. I'm sure
he'll do a great job. I wonder how similar it'll
be to the real coward Lee Lion.

Speaker 2 (29:03):
If you're going to make a popcorn bucket, why not
do it with some style. Yep, and celebration of the
Back to the Future fortieth anniversary cumine making Old Man
Noises AMC will have a DeLorean popcorn bucket on sales
starting on October twenty sixth. It'll set you back forty bucks,
but just think back in nineteen fifty five, that would

(29:24):
be just thirty dollars thirty cents. So the wheels on
the DeLorean flip down a lab back to the future. Two.
The goal wing doors open up, and that's where the
popcorn tray is inside, and to me it looks like
it could hold maybe one fifth of a bag of popcorn.

Speaker 1 (29:42):
Yeah, sometimes that's all you want.

Speaker 2 (29:44):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (29:45):
Johnny Depp is going to play Ebenezer Scrooge in a
horror version of A Christmas Carol. I'm assuming it's a
horror version because it's being done by Ty West, who
did ex Pearl Maxine, which was kind of an action horror.
I believe it is going to be titled Ebenezer a
Christmas Carol. I just hope he doesn't sound too much.

Speaker 3 (30:08):
Like Jack Sparrow.

Speaker 1 (30:09):
Everything sounds like Jack Sparrow. Exception of is Willy Wonto,
which I didn't super care for.

Speaker 2 (30:14):
Yeah, even his Tonto and the Lone Ranger kind of
sounded like Jenck Sparrow, I got to get back in
time travel discussions, but in this one I'm talking about
a British sci fi comedy film called Time Travel Is Dangerous.
The movie has already had a theatrical run in the UK,
but it's going to open in the US and select
theaters and also video on demand on November twenty first.

(30:38):
That follows an English couple who use a time machine
to go back in time in order to steal stuff
so they can sell it in their modern day vintage shop,
which is a very very English plot and I am
totally here for it same.

Speaker 1 (30:57):
I am sad to say that the USh Australian version
of the Office, which came out a little under a
little over a year ago, was not renewed for a
second season. It got great critical review, but it didn't
get great audience review, which is sad because I know
Jonathan and I were both hoping that we'd be able
to watch it at some point.

Speaker 2 (31:18):
Yeah, well, here's hoping that maybe we'll still get like
a distribution of it at some point. In nineteen eighty three,
there was a movie titled The Big Chill. It follows
a group of baby boomers who get together after one
of their friends has died. Well more than forty years later,
there's a horror comedy movie now in the works called

(31:39):
The Big Kill, and it takes on a similar premise,
except now we're talking about jen xers coming together after
a friend's death and they get targeted by a serial killer.
The movie is in production with folks like Skeid Olerich,
Alicia Witt, and Pete Holmes starring, so it's a horror comedy.
Sounds like this movie was made for me, and that's

(32:00):
mostly because I'm old.

Speaker 1 (32:03):
I love Pete Holmes. So Yes, Stranger Things. The series
finale will be getting a one night theater release I
guess maybe one and a half night theater release at
the same time as it gets dropped on Netflix. It's

(32:24):
a two hour series finale. It'll be in three hundred
and fifty movie theaters on December thirty first, starting at
five pm, and play through January first. It is interesting.
I like the reason behind it, which is that the
creators are like so much time and effort is put
into the sound effects and the visuals that you should

(32:45):
see that on the big screen, to see all the
detail and all the hard work put into that, and
I think that Stranger Things has some really great special effects,
so I'm fully behind that. I don't know that I'll
go to the movie theaters on the thirty first or
first to see it, because I tend to be a
homebody on New Year's Day, but I hope it does
really well.

Speaker 2 (33:04):
In an interview with in Style magazine, Elizabeth Olsen shared
her feelings on theatrical releases, and she said she really
likes the communal experience of going to the cinema to
see a movie with a group of other people, and
that if she can help it, she will try to
avoid projects that are meant just to go straight to streaming,
though she did indicate that independent films sometimes don't have

(33:26):
an option. She also said she loved playing Wanda in
the Marvel Cinematic Universe, and if the project is right,
she would gladly come back. So the balls in your court,
Kevin FIGI.

Speaker 1 (33:40):
I also like theatrical releases. All the last few that
I've been to like haven't been full. Like That's the
thing is, you even need to go with a really
full audience who's all very into it, so you don't
have any drunk audience members who are just talking through
the whole thing, which happens about sixty five percent the

(34:00):
time For me when I go to see a movie
when it just freshets.

Speaker 2 (34:03):
I will say, when I saw Weapons, it was not
with a sold out crowd. Same with Sinners. It was
not with the sold out crowd. But it was a
good crowd, Like people were engaged, they were paying attention,
they weren't on their phones when stuff happened in the movie.
You could hear the reaction in the audience. That's ideal,
but I admit, like it's it was luck that I

(34:26):
landed in those audiences as opposed to ones where you know,
it's almost like people just came to the film so
they could get a couple of hours of air conditioning
and hang out on their phone and stuff like. That's
really frustrating to me. I would rather just stay at
home and watch the movie if that's the case. But
when it's a good experience, it really does, I think,

(34:47):
elevate the whole viewing experience, right, which is why I like,
that's another thing about that Stranger Thing screening. I think
if you're in a theater filled with fans of the
series who have all been in vas in this series
for like, you know, five full seasons that span you know,
way more years than that. Then hopefully it's a really

(35:10):
good experience. It reminds me when the last episode of
Buffy the Vampire Slayer came out. I actually saw that
the premiere of that final episode, not really premiere, I
saw it when it aired in Los Angeles. I flew
to LA and went to a big group watch of

(35:32):
Buffy the Vampire Slayer's last episode, and that was tons
of fun. Now, granted that was a group that was
guaranteed to be engaged. It was it was like a
niche audience, but yeah, it really does make a difference.

Speaker 1 (35:47):
I like when I saw Superman and when I saw
Thunderbolts and things like that, the audiences were less full
than I wanted. They were good audiences and they were responsive,
Like Barbie had a great audience where people were respectful
but laughed and was huge, huge, same with Honestly, the
Dungeons and Dragons movie, which is kind of wonderful. Sinners
was a mixed bag because we did have two kids
who tried to find seats using their cell phone light

(36:11):
and also I think we're theater hopping and didn't have
assigned seats because when other people would come in to
sit down, they would move the seats they were sitting
in and go to two different seats, which was really
frustrating and very distracting. I also had a couple sitting
next to me who were talking during the movie, but
it was about the movie in the excited way that

(36:34):
you're like, Okay, this is because they're so excited about
what just happened. I can't be mad at that, right,
especially if it resonates with them. Similar with like when
I saw The Martian, there was a dad and a
little girl sitting next to us who talked to the
whole movie, but it was because the little girl was
asking her her dad questions about the movie, like science
y questions, and he was answering them and it was
very cute. So like, if you're engaged, yes, if you're

(36:56):
like the couple who sat behind me at Deadpool two
who were drunk and talking about football loudly the whole time,
less into that.

Speaker 2 (37:05):
Yeah. Yeah, it's that's when you wish that the theaters
that you go to would have the same policy as
the Alamo Draft House, where they will kick your butt
out if you are being disruptive.

Speaker 1 (37:17):
If if you're brave enough to to rat out the
people sitting next to you who are being annoying, which
happened during Hard Eyes. I had a couple sitting next
to me. Now we're being loud, but I was really
afraid to turn them in.

Speaker 2 (37:30):
I understand. I'm just like usually with I think Alamo
Draft House, they occasionally even have ushers like coming in
and checking on the theater to make sure that everybody's
like minding their p's and q's. And I'm all for that.

Speaker 1 (37:46):
And that's how you can tell when somebody knows they're
doing it wrong, because they'll hush up when the ushers
come in and then they'll start talking again. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (37:51):
Yeah, well, let us move on to talk about stuff
what ain't genre, but we're gonna talk about it anyway.
That's what we call this segment this week.

Speaker 1 (38:03):
So uh as opposed to stuff that doesn't fit?

Speaker 2 (38:06):
Yeah, I change it frequently, not every week, but frequently.

Speaker 1 (38:12):
So it is interesting because there's one movie in here
I do think does fit pretty.

Speaker 2 (38:18):
Are you thinking Stone Cold Fox? No? Interesting? The Old
Woman with the Knife? Yes? Okay, yeah, I was like,
both of those are action films, so I guess those
could fit. But before we can get into either of those,
we have to talk about a merry Little x muss
ex hyphen m a S.

Speaker 1 (38:38):
Yeah, this is fun because it stars Alicia Silverstone and
CLERSI explains it all just immediately. For Melissa Joan Hart.

Speaker 2 (38:50):
Is jan Hard in this?

Speaker 1 (38:52):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (38:53):
Okay? Is she playing the is she playing the friend?

Speaker 3 (38:58):
Yes?

Speaker 1 (38:58):
Okay, now you've got me questioning myself.

Speaker 2 (39:03):
Well, okay, I wrote down notes, but I didn't write
that down, so that's why I was surprised.

Speaker 1 (39:08):
Also, Jamila Jamil from Good Places in it as well.
This is one of those hallmarky Christmas y couple breaks
up but they still do Christmas together because family and
making each other jealous with new love interest kind of movies.

Speaker 2 (39:27):
Yeah, one of those. You know, it's not actually Hallmark,
but it is Netflix, which shouldn't become as a surprise
because Netflix is like neck and neck with Hallmark and
trying to produce these kind of things. I think Hallmark
goodness knows how many Christmas movies are going to have
this year. It seems like every year they up the number,

(39:48):
Like usually it's more more films than there are days
in December. But in this case, Yeah, Alicia Silverstone's playing
a recently divorced who is coming to visit her family,
and her ex is also coming to visit the family
because they've agreed to share custody of their children and

(40:12):
they're trying to keep it amicable so that the kids
continue to have like a stable kind of life. But
she discovers that her ex husband is now in a
relationship with Jamila Jamil's character, who is of course younger
and a little bit snooty ish. So that prompts Selicia

(40:38):
Silverstone to kind of cast her eyes upon a hunky
dude with a sharp sense of humor. Who That's where
we get into the whole make each other jealous kind
of thing. All I was going to say is that
it's hitting Netflix on November twelfth.

Speaker 1 (40:55):
That's say. It looks less cheesy than Hot Frosty.

Speaker 2 (40:59):
It looks maybe you can't get over that.

Speaker 1 (41:02):
It looks like maybe more fun than a traditional Hallmark movie.
This one looks like it's got a lot of comedy
in it. But it is by Steve Carr, who has
done like Freaky Friday movie forty three and do a
little Doctor Doolittle too, and Paul Blart Mall Coop, which
I've not watched, but people have very different opinions about
So I.

Speaker 2 (41:22):
Don't think people have different opinions about it. I think
most people have the same opinion about it.

Speaker 1 (41:27):
Which is there what the macaroys like like it or something?

Speaker 2 (41:29):
No, they watch They have to watch Paul Blart Mall
Coop two every year until they die. That's not someone
that's not what they're doing. They're not doing it, and
they're doing it with the guys from the worst idea
of all time where they tortured themselves by watching Grown
Ups two every week for a year and then graduated
to other movies like Sex and the City too. So

(41:53):
these are not people who are in their right mind.

Speaker 1 (41:56):
No, But I mean this one does look cute to me.
For like, I would put it above a lot of
more generical movies because it's pretty funny with actors.

Speaker 2 (42:05):
I like, I would say this definitely looks like it's
significantly better than some of those other movies you listed
under Steve Carr's resume, But his involvement does not fill
me with a lot of confidence.

Speaker 1 (42:20):
Fair enough, Okay, So.

Speaker 2 (42:22):
Next up we get Stone Cold Fox, which was the
movie I thought Ariel meant could have fit into our
normal lineup because it is an action film and the trailer.
I don't think the movie is gonna be done this way,
but the trailer was designed in such a way to
make it kind of look like a late seventies maybe
early eighties action movie, Like they put the filter on

(42:43):
there and everything, and the graphics, like the title was
in that big, blocky seventies era style. But the story
is about a woman named Fox played by Kiernan Schipka,
who escaped from a commune, but she goes back to
infiltrate it because her sister is still in that commune.

(43:07):
And she also apparently gets involved with another woman who's
a drug dealer who's played by Kristin Ritter. I think
is like part love interest, part antagonist. And then there
is a crooked law man played by Kiefer Sutherland and
action Shenanigans ensued. This one comes out November seventh. Why

(43:30):
did you think of the trailer?

Speaker 1 (43:32):
You covered it all. It left me feeling okay. I
really like the cast. It's got, you know, that very
seventies feel to it, like seventy film.

Speaker 3 (43:42):
Quality Field too.

Speaker 2 (43:43):
Yeah, it feels to me like someone trying to emulate
Tarantino a little bit, but not yeah, but not having
Tarantino's style for sure.

Speaker 1 (43:55):
For sure. The next one we got is a trailer
for hr All Out. And it took me a second
because I read the title and I'm like, I don't
I watched the trailer ten minutes ago. Well really it
was like an hour and a half ago, I don't remember.
But it's actually an announcement for a Broadway show.

Speaker 2 (44:18):
Yeah. So there was a Broadway show called all In
that was earlier this year, and there's a writer who
created a whole bunch of stories about love. The writer's
name is Alex Tembers. He wrote several short stories about
love and then they invited groups of four actors and

(44:41):
comedians to come up and read out these stories, and
the cast rotated, so it wasn't the same for every
single performance. So that was earlier this year. Now they
have hr all Out and it's a similar idea. It
will be groups of four actors and comedians out stories
written by Alex Timbers, but this time it'll be stories

(45:03):
that are on things like career and business and ambition
and like work life, balance and that sort of stuff
from a like New Yorker's perspective, and the list of
people who are going to be participating in this is
really impressive.

Speaker 1 (45:20):
It is. I can't remember any of them at this
exact time.

Speaker 2 (45:24):
I can list some off for you. Jim Gaffigan, Eric Andre,
John Stewart, Ben Schwartz, Wayne Brady, Cecily Strong, Sarah Silverman,
Jason Manzukus, Craig Robinson, and lots more and Lawrence the
band Lawrence will be playing songs in between the stories.

(45:45):
The trailer is actually hosted by the founders of the band,
Lawrence Clyde and Gracie Lawrence, their siblings and Gracie Lawrence
in particular. Really freaking funny.

Speaker 1 (45:58):
Yeah for sure. Oh, Mike Barbickli, isn't it too? Yeah,
I'm very excited about this. I probably won't get to
see it because I'm not in New York often, but
it's a really cool thing.

Speaker 2 (46:08):
Yeah. It's a very very limited run. It starts on
December twelfth, and it looks to me like they're only
doing like one show a week. The last show is
on March third, so very limited run.

Speaker 1 (46:20):
Yeah. The next thing we've got is the old woman
with the knife, which is the one that I was like,
this could possibly fit in to into our normal lineup.
It's about an older This is a Korean movie. It's
about an older woman who used to be an assassin
and people kind of think that she's losing her touch,

(46:42):
and she proves them wrong.

Speaker 2 (46:43):
Yeah, she typically would kill people with a poisoned tempt
poison tipped ballpoint pen, but she's an adept assassin with
all sorts of different weaponry. And it's based off a
novel and it's the basic story is that she was
orphaned as a child. She's taken in by a family

(47:07):
and it turns out that the loving father of this
family's actually an assassin and belongs to an organization that
targets criminals. So she takes on that job as well,
becomes this incredibly well respected assassin, but she gets disenchanted

(47:29):
with the organization because it starts to become more like
an assassin for higher thing as opposed to we are
justice right. So then she's being targeted by various people
for various reasons, and she's killing her way out of
the problem. This was a film that already has had

(47:50):
a release in Korea, but is coming to digital and
physical media here in the US on November twenty fifth,
and the trailer looked like it's pretty action packed.

Speaker 1 (48:02):
Yeah, it's the kind of movie I would watch. The
next trailer for doesn't really fit. It could tangentially fit,
I guess. Also is for Crime one O one or
I like to call it the Unavengers or the closest
thing to a Marvel d C crossover we'll ever get.

Speaker 2 (48:18):
I'm calling it I'm feeling thor.

Speaker 1 (48:24):
It's a I mean, it's like an intrigue, actiony movie.
It feels very generic, but it has Chris Hemsworth who
is Thore, it's got Mark Ruffalo who it's got Barry
Kyog who is in the Eternals, and it's got Halle
Berry who was Catwoman Marvel d C crossover.

Speaker 2 (48:45):
One of the worst DC movies ever made. That Catwoman movie,
Holy cow was that bad.

Speaker 1 (48:52):
Anyway, So it's weird for sure.

Speaker 2 (48:54):
So Crime one on one the basic premise is Chris
Hemsworth is playing a thief who is very good about
not leaving behind DNA evidence at his robbery sites, and
Mark Ruffalo is the detective who's investigating a string of robberies,
and he has he suspects that at least some of

(49:15):
those robberies were committed by the same person who always
seems to target his places or people along the one
oh one Freeway in California, Like all of his target
sites are close to the one oh one Freeway, so
apparently that's how he makes his getaway is through the
one oh one. Anyone who's been in Los Angeles knows

(49:35):
that's ridiculous. The freeways are always busy all the time.
But this is a movie so we can have some
fantasy in it. And halle Berry plays a woman who's
an executive at an insurance company, and the insurance company
specializes in ensuring high valued materials like paintings and jewelry

(49:57):
and that kind of stuff. So what he's doing is
trying to to enlist her in a conspiracy to target
the clients of this company in order to steal from them,
and she would get a cut. And you know, he's
using this as a way of saying, you've worked for
this company for a really long time and you've dedicated

(50:19):
you know, your talent and skill to this company and
they have yet to recognize that, like you are not
you're nowhere near a lot far enough along in your
career based on what you've done, so don't they owe
you something? The whole idea of tempting her to help him.
So it looks like it's like an interesting thriller where

(50:40):
you've got these three you know, main parties here. You've
got the thief, you've got the potential insider, and you've
got the investigator, kind of all converging.

Speaker 1 (50:52):
Yeah, it could be fun.

Speaker 2 (50:55):
Yeah. It's based off a novella by Don Winslow. It
comes out February thirteenth. I thought the trailer looked it
didn't like sometimes there are action movie trailers that I'll
watch and I'm like, yeah, I really want to see
this this one. I'm like, it's not that I really
want to see it. It's more like if it was on,
I would watch it.

Speaker 1 (51:13):
Yeah. Yeah, it looks generic but good, good enough.

Speaker 2 (51:19):
Yeah, and like you know, they've got some charismatic actors
in it, so I'm sure it'll be entertaining.

Speaker 1 (51:24):
Yeah, Chris Hemsworth is a very good actor. I enjoy
him quite a bit. I enjoy his work quite a bit.
The last trailer we have for doesn't really fit is Malice,
which is David d'oveny's family brings in a tutor nanny
guy who turns out to be pretty dang creepy.

Speaker 2 (51:44):
Yeah, played by Jack Whitehall, which is hilarious because I
just know Jack Whitehall as a goofball comedian on British
talk shows, like I've seen him on things like The
Graham Norton Show and stuff, so it's like, weird to
see him playing a sinister character. But this is a series,

(52:05):
and it's it's coming to Prime video and it's six
episodes in total, comes out November fourteenth, and yeah, basic
premises David Coovny's playing a guy named like I think
it's James Tanner, so it's the Tanner family, but not
the one from Full House. I was really sad to

(52:26):
learn that. I was like, if this is a Full
House extended lore Fell series, I'm totally in. It's not,
but the Tanners. Tanners are in Greece. There nanny becomes
mysteriously sick and this charming tutor play by Jack Whitehall
kind of ingratiates himself and becomes essentially invited to work

(52:49):
for the family, and then it turns out he's he
seems to be up to No Good. Yeah, six episodes
November fourteenth. If if I were to watch it, it would
specifically be to watch Jack Whitehall be creepy.

Speaker 1 (53:05):
Fair enough, fair enough. It didn't really appeal to me,
but if you watch it, let me know what you
think we'll do.

Speaker 2 (53:11):
All right, Well, let's let's move on to John Boys
Horror Hutch. I just got two and only one of
them's a trailer, although I could talk about the other trailer.
It's the first is the Beldam so beld Ham if
you were to spell it out b E L Dham.
It's technically a psychological horror movie that was first released

(53:32):
in festivals in twenty twenty four, but it's finally getting
a US release on November seventh. According to Wikipedia, there's
an alternate title for this movie, which is The House
at hellow End, though I didn't see that reference anywhere else,
but chances are it's correct. The story follows a new mother.

(53:53):
She is named Harper played by Katy Parker, and she's
headed to stay at her mother's house and her mother
has like a living boyfriend played by Corbin Burnson. Patricia Heaton,
who is the mom from the middle, plays Harper's mother, Sadie,
and Sadie is worried about Harper's mental health. Her mental

(54:16):
state appears to be deteriorating, and so she's worried about
the safety of our grandchild. Meanwhile, Harper is suspicious of
her mother and feels like there is a supernatural threat
in her mother's house that her mother may very well
be in cahoots with, and that that is the threat

(54:37):
to her and her child's safety. And so it seems
to me like this might be playing on. Is Harper reliable?
Is she an unreliable narrator? Is it actually all in
her head because her mental health is deteriorating, or is
there a supernatural element going on? Or both could be?

(54:57):
Why not both? So I guess what have to wait
till November seventh to find out. But it looks interesting.
Don't know that, I mean, no, I do know. I'm
not gonna go out and see this, but I would
probably wait and watch it if it were on streaming.
The other one is Hollywood Hell's, which potentially could have
fit in our thirty seconds or less. But this is

(55:18):
a horror project, so I've put it in here. So
Hollywood Hell's is a thriller that follows the story of
a young actress who's trying to make a name for
herself and she goes to an industry party in Hollywood
and she encounters some power broker people who share the
twisted common interest of producing snuff films. So, in other words,

(55:39):
a movie where the person on camera actually is killed, right,
that's the plot, and that she then turns the tables
on these power brokers, so it seems like it's kind
of a revenge film sort of feel to it as well.
The New Zealand company Black Mandala has jumped on board
this project and will be shopping it around during the
upcoming American Film Market. That's an industry event where independent

(56:04):
films often look for distribution, so there's no guarantee that
this movie's gonna get wider distribution. There is a trailer
on Vimeo for it, and I watched it and it
felt like a very low budget horror movie to me,
like the clearly shot on digital video, and it didn't

(56:25):
look like it was. The trailer itself was not good.
I tried to avoid using phrases like that, but I
just felt it was a poorly constructed trailer that doesn't mean,
the movie's bad, but man, they needed to get some
other black Mandala needs to hire a trailer house to
cut their trailers because they did not do a good job.

(56:47):
I watched it. I was like, Wow, this looks terrible.
It just doesn't look like a good movie. But hopefully
the actual film is better and it'll find distribution. But
that's it for the horror Hutch.

Speaker 1 (56:58):
I don't like anything at I don't like anything that
plays with the snuff film.

Speaker 2 (57:03):
I mean that as an actor, I can understand why
you would be reluctant to watch a movie about actors
getting killed.

Speaker 1 (57:10):
Yeah, yeah, I don't even like the concept, Like, just
the idea of that happening is so creepy.

Speaker 2 (57:16):
Well, if it's any consolation, the concept of snuff film
is pretty much a fictional thing and not a thing
that's in reality.

Speaker 3 (57:26):
Yeah, I don't like it.

Speaker 1 (57:27):
You can add that to my list of nos. So
now we've got four trailers, so this will be a
reasonable length episode almost yes.

Speaker 2 (57:38):
And one of the mist trailer for something we've already
talked about, so we want I don't think we're going
to have a lot more to say about it.

Speaker 1 (57:44):
I'll have a little bit to say about it, Okay,
not too much. The first trailer though, is for troll Too,
and this isn't Trolls two. It's a sequel to the
Norwegian troll film from nineteen twenty two, twenty two saying
great this from nineteen twenty two, that would be.

Speaker 2 (58:05):
Amazing silent film with a card coming up saying rare
ar Yeah, no, twenty twenty two movie. Yeah. When you
said nineteen I was like, say what now I more coffee?
Uh yeah. So it's a like you said, Norwegian movie.
And that first film follows the story of a group
of people who are trying to to stop an enormous troll,

(58:32):
like a mountain sized troll as it's going on in
destructive spree. The troll is awakened by a drilling team
that's trying to build a tunnel through a mountain, and
they awaken the troll and it goes on a rampage.

Speaker 1 (58:46):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (58:46):
This one, I don't know exactly what's happening, but apparently
there's a group of scientists who have a mega troll.

Speaker 1 (58:56):
It looks like to me that the mega troll is
a lab creator, bad guy troll. And then that they
come across another troll who might be the good guy
troll and then they have like cong versus Godzilla Troll
like fights. Now I'm gonna be real honest. I didn't
watch the first Troll movie. I wanted to, but it
almost looked more like a horror to me at the time.

(59:17):
I don't think that's what it ended up being. But
this one, this trailer definitely has a very different vibe
to it.

Speaker 2 (59:23):
Yeah, I think it's I think it's a giant monster movie,
which I guess you could argue is kind of adjacent
to horror or a subgenre of horror. I don't know
how horrific it was, but yeah, I have the exact
same note. My note is like not sure if Mega
Troll is a cyborg control or not, but Megatroll goes

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up against another troll a la Godzilla versus Kong, so
we had the same idea. Yeah, I have not seen
the first one either. I did watch Troll Hunter, which
I thought was a thinking of that's a great movie.
It's and it's also I mean, it's got some horror
elements to it, but it's it's like a horror comedy,

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more on the horror than the comedy. But there is
comedy in it. I really like Troll Hunter quite a bit.
I haven't watched troll which is a separate movie. It's
not the same, folks. But this comes out on December
first on Netflix, so you can, I imagine, watch the
first troll movie on Netflix and then follow it up
with the sequel if you wanted to.

Speaker 1 (01:00:28):
Yeah, the sequel does at least know what it is.
They even reference it in the trailer, which I don't. Yeah,
it's a good thing or a bad thing.

Speaker 2 (01:00:35):
Yeah, they make meta commentary about sequels and stuff, and
there does seem to be like a scientist comedy comic
relief kind of character in this.

Speaker 3 (01:00:44):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:00:45):
Yeah. The next thing we got we talked about. This
is the one we talked about before. We got a
teaser for a show called Pluribys coming to Apple TV.
But we just got the full trailer and I think
it looks really good.

Speaker 2 (01:01:00):
Yeah. I wrote that this feels like it could be
a sister series to Severance in some ways.

Speaker 1 (01:01:07):
I shared this with my friend, who I also know
likes Breaking Bad because it's Vince Gilligan, the same creator,
and she said the same thing. She goes, it looks
like a reverse Severance.

Speaker 2 (01:01:19):
Yeah, yeah, it feels to me like they are spiritually connected.
Like this would be Vince Gilligan's take on something akin
to Severance, except instead of instead of everything being sort
of dull and morose and in praise of this one

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mythical business leader, it's everybody is happy and content and
seemingly almost like a hive mind except for a couple
of exceptions. It does look like there's more than one
exception though. Like the original teaser made it look like
the protagonist was the only person in the world not affected,

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this makes it look like maybe there are others out
there too.

Speaker 1 (01:02:02):
Yeah. The premise on Wikipedia says it follows author Carol Stirka,
who is seems to be the only person immune. But
seems is a very strong word. But the thing that
is interesting to me is if it's a virus that
makes everybody content and optimistic, where is everybody? Because we

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see the main character go to the store and go
on a plane, and it seems like there's just not
It doesn't say it kills everybody, but where don't optimistic
happy people also have to shop?

Speaker 2 (01:02:38):
I mean, maybe it's supposed to be that they I
don't know. It's hard to say, because like it feels
to me like the idea is that whatever it has
done to people, it has also satisfied their needs in
some way where they're not doing like your daily activity

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stuff anymore. Like it's kind of like zombies in a way,
except in so them being aggressive and trying to eat you,
they're just trying to assimilate you. This it's interesting because
it's already been renewed for a second season and the
first episode hasn't even come out yet. It comes out

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November seventh, and the first season will have nine episodes
in that the first two episodes drop on November seventh,
so we'll get a two episode drop on day one.

Speaker 3 (01:03:30):
I'm so excited about this.

Speaker 1 (01:03:31):
It might also be that they've sequestered her away to
her own area so she doesn't affect the other people,
if it.

Speaker 2 (01:03:37):
Is, like that's true, like a quarantine of some sort.

Speaker 1 (01:03:41):
Yeah, yeah, because you know there does seem to be
a power player, and if that person is trying to
domineer or obtain maintain control, then you you know, you
try to get rid of things that threaten that. Yeah,
we'll see. It's it raises a lot of quiet since
it looks very good.

Speaker 3 (01:04:01):
I'm so watching this.

Speaker 2 (01:04:02):
Yeah, and then we're going to finish up with two
projects that I don't want to put words in anyone
else's mouth, but I have a feeling neither of us
are greatly anticipating either of these two.

Speaker 1 (01:04:15):
Yeah, the first one, I don't know. The first one
is a trailer for Altered, which is a superhero movie,
kind of.

Speaker 2 (01:04:24):
Superhero sci fi superhero film.

Speaker 1 (01:04:26):
Yeah, Yeah, starring.

Speaker 3 (01:04:29):
The Tom Felton, Tom Felton, who.

Speaker 1 (01:04:32):
Was the Draco Malfoy in the HP series, playing someone
in a wheelchair. So immediately I was a little bit like,
I don't super care for Like, I understand why they
do it on Broadway sometimes, like in Wicked when one

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of the characters, Nessa, is able to get out of
a wheelchair, though they've since looked at that again and
don't necessarily always do that, you know, because if you've
got someone who is stuck in a wheelchair, who is
a wheelchair user. Not all wheelchair users are confined to
their wheelchair, right, but if you have someone who is,
then it would be hard to make them stand if

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you want that to be a part of your play,
which I guess is why they used Tom Felton because
he also needs to be the superhero character.

Speaker 2 (01:05:25):
But I'm always a little bit like, well, yeah, he's
got a suit that gives him like Iron Man like powers.

Speaker 1 (01:05:31):
Except for it looks like task Master.

Speaker 2 (01:05:35):
The suit design is not good. Yeah, it would have been.
You would have had to cast two different actors if otherwise,
because you just unlet or one of them would have
to be all cgi right. So the setting is a
futuristic world where there has been some sort of calamitous disaster,

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but the world has rebuilt itself, and there are two
broad categories of people. They're the wealthy haves aka the genetics,
who have used genetic alteration to give themselves different appearances
and abilities. And then there are the quote unquote specials,
which is everybody else who are the have nots. And

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so Tom Felton's character is one of those specials, one
of the have nots, and he ends up engineering this
suit to help fight against this oppressive regime and the
segregation that happens in society because of it. And it's
from a Finnish filmmaker. It had a theatrical release in

(01:06:43):
Russia already and it's getting a limited theatrical run in
the United States on November twenty first, I wrote that
this quality wise, it looks like it's a step above
Asylum Pictures films, but not a huge step above.

Speaker 1 (01:07:00):
I haven't seen any Asylum Picture films. I will say
that like it. It looks like it and maybe this
is purpose It could be purposeful. It looks like it
might suffer in figuring out what tone it wants to have,
because it starts off a little dark and then it
brings in some sorry, my cat is deciding to do

(01:07:23):
extreme sports in here while I record, So if you
hear any background noise and Jonathan isn't able to get
it out, that's why Like there was the trailer started
off a little gritty, and then it went to a
place that felt like Free Guy, because it almost seemed
like it was going to be a jokey, funny movie.
And then it went to a place that felt like
Jupiter Ascending, which was not a good movie. Well, some

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people may disagree. I did not enjoy it because it
dealt with people with different genetic changes.

Speaker 2 (01:07:56):
Sibling movie I think haves.

Speaker 1 (01:07:58):
And have nots, So like it feels like maybe just
too many concepts put together like I could be behind
any one of them potentially, but it didn't super grab me.

Speaker 2 (01:08:09):
Though.

Speaker 1 (01:08:09):
Then you said I had a finished director, and now
I might need to give it a second thought.

Speaker 2 (01:08:13):
Okay, sure, yeah, because Finnish people can't make bad stuff.
They can, but hey, if you want to waste a
couple of hours of your life watching this, feel free.
I just think it looks like a lackluster sci fi film.
I was happy to see Tom Felton in something, but

(01:08:36):
I don't think this was a good use of his
talent personally based upon the trailer. I mean, maybe I'm wrong,
maybe it's just a bad trailer and it'll be fine.

Speaker 1 (01:08:44):
But it doesn't even look like he's a horrible actor
in it.

Speaker 3 (01:08:47):
It just doesn't.

Speaker 2 (01:08:49):
It is weird hearing him do an American accent though.

Speaker 1 (01:08:51):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (01:08:53):
Then we have another movie that I think is just
a step above Asylum quality called cotton Mouth. But the
thing that the reason why I put cotton Mouth on
here because it's a Western and normally I would be like, oh,
maybe this goes into the doesn't quite fit category. I
put it here because as I watched the trailer, I

(01:09:14):
clocked what it was and I hadn't even looked at
character names. If you look at the character names and
you know your classic literature, you'll clock what it is
right away. But as I'm watching, I'm thinking this is
a Western but I it this is the plot of
the Count of Monte Cristo. And then I looked at
the character names, and sure enough, the protagonist is ed Dantes,

(01:09:38):
which that's a direct reference to the Count of Monte Cristo,
the Alexandre Demas novel. And we talked about how there's
another kind of Count of Monte Cristo inspired project where
it's the Countess of Monte Cristo. It takes a different,
a totally different spin on the story. But this is
a Western version of the Count of mon money Christo.

(01:10:00):
And the reason I was interested in even watching the
trailers because Ron Pearlman is in it, and I like
Ron Peerlman a lot. But y'all, I cannot say that
this trailer gives me any confidence in the quality of
this movie.

Speaker 1 (01:10:13):
Yeah, I love when Ron Pearlman gets to be Ron
Peerlman and not behind a whole bunch of prosthetics, kind
of like the same with Doug Jones whenever, because sometimes
that can lead. It's worked better for n Perlman for
being like leads, I feel like, but it's nice to
be able to see him rock his full self. It
also stars Jonathan Lipnicki, who is the little kid in Stuart,

(01:10:36):
Little Jerry Maguire and Little Vampire.

Speaker 2 (01:10:40):
Okay, that's interesting, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:10:43):
Who is like if you knew, you could recognize him
as an adult because he's thirty five now huh. But
I had to look up the cast list because I
didn't look at the character names. I like the County
of Money Cristo. It doesn't take enough space in my
brain for me to recognize the names right away. But
that is interesting. That almost makes it feel more interesting

(01:11:05):
to me.

Speaker 2 (01:11:05):
Well, for me, it was just like watching the trailer.
I was like, Okay, a guy is about to get married,
some other people are lusting after his fiance. He gets
framed for a crime, he gets thrown into jail. He
meets someone in jail who helps him both escape and
plan his revenge. That's Count of Monte Cristo. That's what

(01:11:28):
that story is. And so, like I said, it wasn't
until I looked at the names where like at first
I was just like, oh, they've adapted The Count of
Monty Cristo as a Western and then when I saw
the names, I'm like, oh, they're not even They're not
even being subtle about it, They're directly referencing it. I
wish it looked better it does. It just looks to
me like it's a load to mid budget film shot

(01:11:51):
on digital video. It's the digital video that really does
it for me. Like sometimes if it's a low budget
shot on digital video, that makes it look even cheaper
to me. Yeah, like you could have been shot on film,
I probably would feel better about this. But also I
don't think it's a very well done trailer. It's the

(01:12:13):
same issue I've had with the other ones I've talked
about on today's episode. But this does come out on
Amazon and November fourth, so if you have Amazon Prime,
you'll probably be able to watch it, you know, in
just like a couple of weeks.

Speaker 1 (01:12:26):
I do think I'll I do think I'll skip it.
Like the trailer did not grab me. I just didn't
catch them at Count Mona.

Speaker 2 (01:12:31):
Krysta thinks, yeah, yeah, yeah, I wish I had more
exciting things to add into our actual lineup part, but
we're real kind of in the dregs right now, because
we've already all the Halloween stuff has already happened. We're
getting a little bit of Christmas stuff, but not that
much yet, oddly enough, normally we would have had more.

(01:12:51):
But yeah, I'm sure, I'm sure we'll be getting more
of those in the next couple of weeks. But then
we get into the real dregs aka January. That's where
studios go to dump the stuff they don't know where
else to put.

Speaker 1 (01:13:06):
Yeah, maybe we'll have to pivot and either watch all
the things that we're excited that are coming out in
November and December and catch up on that and talk
about it, or.

Speaker 3 (01:13:15):
Oh maybe fill it up with mashups or something, or we'll.

Speaker 2 (01:13:19):
Talk about things that have been out for years and
years and years but we're just now getting around to
seeing them alat Elementary.

Speaker 3 (01:13:28):
Or The Shine.

Speaker 1 (01:13:29):
Maybe I'll finally watch The Shining.

Speaker 2 (01:13:31):
That's a great movie as long as you're watching the
Stanley Kubrick one and not the terrible made for TV
one with Stephen Weber awful.

Speaker 3 (01:13:41):
Yeah, even though that one.

Speaker 2 (01:13:43):
Had Stephen King's blessing and Stephen King famously did not
like the Kubrick version. But I maintain it's superior in
every way.

Speaker 1 (01:13:51):
I am very hit or miss on Stephen king properties,
and I don't I've been told that he doesn't always
make the best literary choices, but I don't know, because
I don't read a lot of his stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:14:06):
Well. To be fair, a lot of his writing for
a lot of his career was powered by his nose.

Speaker 1 (01:14:15):
Gotcha. But I did read on IMDb the other day
that The Dark the Mike Flanagan Dark Tower series is
still in the works.

Speaker 2 (01:14:25):
So is it? Gosh? Yeah, because after that last adaptation,
I just figured that there'd be no hope for trying
to do it again.

Speaker 1 (01:14:34):
I so this didn't even pick up. It's going to
be a Netflix series, didn't even pick up until after
that last adaptation. But yeah, as of a week ago,
there was news that it is still in the works,

(01:14:55):
that he is working on it.

Speaker 2 (01:14:58):
I mean, Mike Flanagan is now the go to guy
to adapt Stephen King works. Right, Like, even the stuff
he did that wasn't directly a Stephen King adaptation feels
very in line with like King's aesthetic, so it totally
makes sense.

Speaker 3 (01:15:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:15:16):
Yeah, so I'm excited about that. I meant to put
it in last week, and these two weeks have been crazy.
Next week should be a little bit calmer for me,
So then Jonathan won't have to do all the work
because Jonathan is amazing. But that's it for today. So Jonathan,
if people want to get in touch with us and

(01:15:36):
be like, oh, hey, you missed this cool thing, or
here's what I think about. Here are some great recommendations
for Halloween movies. How would they try to reach you?

Speaker 2 (01:15:46):
Well, you're going to be heading over to the train station.
You're going to get on a train, and as the
train starts going, you're going to realize that the train
itself is sentient and it's also we love. It's gonna
be taking you rapidly through the landscape, and it's your
job to figure out a way of stopping the train

(01:16:07):
and getting off. Assuming you do that, what you're gonna
find yourself at is a beach that is completely infested
with these giant lobster critters. They are saying things like
data chuck and data chow, and uh, you're gonna be
careful because you're gonna, I hate to tell, you're gonna
lose some fingers in this process. There's just unavoidable. You're

(01:16:28):
gonna lose like a couple fingers off your right hand,
so you know, make your plans accordingly. And once you
get through that, you're gonna come up to this town
where there's this weird wizard dude who's just really all
up in your business. It's gonna be really irritating. You're
gonna have to work your way through that. Eventually you're

(01:16:50):
gonna find yourself coming toward this tall spire where everything
seems to be connected to this spire. You're gonna pass
by Stephen King because he's written self into this, even
though I told him, please don't do that. You're gonna
keep going beyond the ability for me to describe the
Dark Tower series anymore, because I stopped reading after the

(01:17:11):
fourth book because I got so fed up with it.
But we'll assume other stuff happens, and then eventually you're
gonna find me sitting on a throne. I'm the man
behind the curtain, and I'll be like, well, clearly, whatever
you have to say is really important, because you put
yourself through a lot of trouble just to get here.
Go ahead, maybe I'll answer it.

Speaker 1 (01:17:31):
Wait, is Dark Tower just Wizard of Oz.

Speaker 2 (01:17:34):
I mean, yes, there are Wizard of Oz elements to
Dark Tower. Yes, like it's okay. The Dark Tower is
either Stephen King's greatest work if you are a certain
type of fan, or it's his most exasperating, self conglaberate,
conglatiatory mess of a work if you're.

Speaker 1 (01:17:56):
Me I have I have a lot of friends who
really like the beginning of the series and don't care
for the end of it. But yeah, if you also
haven't read The Dark Tower, so you missed half the
references like I did, you can reach out to us

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coherentcasting I.

Speaker 2 (01:19:00):
Am Jonathan go. Then there are other worlds than these, Strickland.

Speaker 1 (01:19:06):
This is my gun. There are many like it, but
this one is.

Speaker 2 (01:19:08):
I don't know if that's no, that's.

Speaker 1 (01:19:11):
I aim with my eye.

Speaker 2 (01:19:14):
My I'm like, this is my gun. I'm like, let's
go full metal jacket on this okay.

Speaker 1 (01:19:21):
Watched full metal jacket either.

Speaker 2 (01:19:24):
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