LNC Doubles Down in Length and in Spiders

This week, you get two episodes for the price of one! Yes, we have an episode recorded two weeks ago as well as this week's episode, because things don't always work out the way we planned. For instance, Ariel planned on recording episodes without being stalked by spiders, and that sure didn't work out. Listen to learn more!

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:09):
Hey, everybody, Welcome to the Large nerdron Collider podcast, the
podcast that's all about the geeky things happening in the
world around us and how very excited we are about them.
I'm Ariel cast In, and with me, as always, is
the spooky Cookie Jonathan Strickland.

Speaker 2 (00:27):
I'm also a spooky cookie. Yes, wait what, I'm a
spooky cookie. I'm like a snicker doodle. That's terrifying.

Speaker 1 (00:39):
You can say that again, short Bread.

Speaker 2 (00:40):
Now I don't nice. I like that. You can say
that again. Shortbread is pretty awesome. So, Ariel, before we
really jump into this funny thing, I was actually listening
to some old LLENC episodes during the iHeart era, and yeah,

(01:01):
because I was, well, it doesn't matter why, but I did,
and I forgot that I used to do something at
the beginning of every episode that I haven't done in
a really long time. Do you remember what I used
to do at the beginning of episodes?

Speaker 1 (01:15):
You just did it. You just asked me a question. John.

Speaker 2 (01:17):
That's right, I'm gonna ask you a question. Just did so. Finally,
it doesn't, but I didn't. I didn't preface it with
saying I'm going I've got a question for you. Okay,
So Ariel, my question for you, now, knowing that Halloween
is not your favorite holiday, what is your favorite fall

(01:42):
food or drink?

Speaker 1 (01:45):
Oh my goodness, I thought you're gonna ask me my
favorite scary movie, which I had to answer earlier today.
And you know, the moment someone asks you what your
favorite movie is, you forget all movies in that genre.

Speaker 2 (01:53):
Yeah, right right, You'll be like, uh, my favorite scary
movie is Harry and the Hinder sins like you were
scared by that. Listen, I'm I got this. I'm working
with what I got. I'm sorry.

Speaker 1 (02:07):
Today it's Cloverfield Lane, which I do. I actually do. Stay.
It's a very good movie.

Speaker 2 (02:12):
It's a fantastic I actually really like that movie until
you get I don't. I don't hate the third act,
but I love the first two acts of that movie,
and the third act is.

Speaker 1 (02:23):
Okay, I get it. With anything that's kind of suspenseful
thriller like that, I feel like the story always kind
of the build up to the answer is always better
than the answer.

Speaker 2 (02:35):
Yeah, yeah, the build up's better than the payoff. Yeah.
I think I still think the payoff's great. But without
going into spoilers, John Goodman is my favorite part of
that whole film. So draw some conclusions there about why
I like the first two thirds.

Speaker 1 (02:56):
And I think I think the first Cloverfield and I'm
sure we've talked about this, so I'll keep it. The
first Cloverfield is also very good and very scary and
like viscerally scares me at one point, to the point
where I was like, I've seen this twice, It's that's enough.
But I just I feel like Cloverfield Lane ten. Cloverfield
Lane does a really good job at balancing the humanity

(03:16):
with the scary, with the suspense. It's not too gory,
but it's still frightening. So I just think it's really good.

Speaker 2 (03:23):
But more importantly, what's your favorite autumnal food?

Speaker 1 (03:28):
I was just stalling because I don't I didn't prepare
for this answer, so I don't.

Speaker 2 (03:33):
Have Yeah, I didn't tell you.

Speaker 1 (03:34):
I've now forgotten every food that ever exists. A peach cup. No,
that's what I had for lunch.

Speaker 2 (03:42):
Part of my lunch. Decided to get off the gushers
and coffee for an episode.

Speaker 1 (03:46):
Like normally I grab food after this, I won't have
time today. I think, oh gosh, I really like Now
is this just a Halloween style foods or does this
go into like.

Speaker 2 (04:03):
Yeah, you can do Thanksgiving too, Like I said, I
know Halloween's not your favorite.

Speaker 1 (04:07):
So I think you know what hot muld apple cider.

Speaker 2 (04:15):
Wow, you stole my answer. Oh no, hot apple cider
is my favorite. My favorite autumnal uh a dish. I
guess it's not even dish drink.

Speaker 1 (04:26):
Yeah, I mean I like it. I like actually I
like all things apples. So one of my favorite autumnal
activities is to go apple picking, and then I'll make
various kinds of apple pies. I'll make like apple monkey bread,
I'll make.

Speaker 2 (04:40):
Do you go up to like the Mercier orchard area
up toward Blue Ridge.

Speaker 1 (04:44):
Or I do go apple picking and l a j
not at Mercer Mercier Mercer Yeah, Mercario McCary. Uh No.
I go to Hillcrest, And the reason I go there
is just simply because, like I went as a kid
on a bunch of field trips and just stuck with me.
So it's it's cool sentimental value. Yeah. Plus they have

(05:05):
an apple pear combo that is really good.

Speaker 2 (05:08):
I've never done apple picking, but I do love I
do love hot apple cider, Like, that's one of my favorites.
And although like it's very easy to go overboard on
the spice blends for that if you if the spice
blends are too strong and I can't even taste the
apple because the spices, that turns me off. But uh,
something that's got a nice balance to it, Like, I

(05:29):
also don't just want hot apple juice. There has to
be a balance. Yeah, so I do like that. I
once made homemade hot apple cider, starting with whole raw apples,
and I will never do that again.

Speaker 1 (05:44):
I mean, but it sounds amazing.

Speaker 2 (05:47):
It was good. It was just a lot of work.

Speaker 1 (05:50):
I am working on. So a couple of years ago,
I started making apple spiced apple cider shortbread cookies m M.
And then I mixed them with dolcea de leche to
make like a caramel apple sandwich cookie. And I'm still
working on perfecting that.

Speaker 2 (06:08):
But well, now that we got the all important throwback
to the classic iHeart era LLENC episodes, let's talk about
the stuff that we have watched since our last recording,
one of which is something that we've each watched. And
it's funny because since our last recording, like half of

(06:32):
the episodes have come out.

Speaker 1 (06:34):
Yeah, which is Agatha All Along? What do you think
about it?

Speaker 2 (06:41):
Jonathan, Yeah, I'm enjoying it. I I was worried at
first when I watched the very first episode that it
was going to take a while to really build into
something that I was enjoying. But the second episode got
there right away. The third episode was good, and then

(07:04):
I know, we chatted offline how you felt the fourth episode.
You know, it wasn't bad, but it didn't quite live
up to the same of the first three. My partner Becca,
she agrees she felt the same way. I didn't feel
that way. It's not that I loved the fourth episode,
but I enjoyed it kind of on a different level

(07:27):
from the other. First of all, to a case anyone
hasn't been watching Agatha All Along, it's the gayest show
in the MCU. Like, it's as gay as gay can
be in the MCU. There's so much gay and I'm
here for it.

Speaker 1 (07:44):
Man.

Speaker 2 (07:45):
It was awesome. There was a lot of sexual tension
in episode four that I was like, I didn't know
I needed this till it happened.

Speaker 1 (07:55):
I mean, it was an episode two as.

Speaker 2 (07:57):
Well, it was, but episode four, they were like, hold
my beer. Also, there was a great, big musical number
in episode four, and I'm a sucker for a musical number.
So I've really enjoyed it. I'm curious about where it's going,
as we'll get into in the thirty seconds or less.

(08:17):
I narrowly avoided a spoiler, and I'm trying to do
that because I'm enjoying the story they're telling. And while
I am intrigued and I have questions, I'm okay with
waiting to get the answers, kind of the same way
I was with WandaVision. Like a lot of us get
used to when a series will just dump all its

(08:37):
episodes at once and you can just bend your way
through it. I kind of like having a week to
build up suspense, intention, and anticipation. So I've been enjoying that.
What's been your take on the series.

Speaker 1 (08:54):
I wasn't very excited about it, you know, in general,
witchy things are not always my cup of tea. Uh,
But I enjoyed it a lot more. I thought the
second episode was incredibly strong and really grabbed my attention
and and made me invested in what was happening next.
And I thought the third story did a really good

(09:14):
job at that as well. And also the third episode.
Third episode had some really cool like tie ins to
to regular life that I thought were really cool and
kind of demystified some stuff almost and I thought that
was really Neat the fourth episode it was fine. It

(09:37):
gave I don't I don't know how to talk about
it without spoiling I guess the musical number thing to
me was kind of a one trick pony thing. It
it gave me first episode of gallivant vibes.

Speaker 2 (09:53):
Mmm, I think uh. I like the fact that so
there's a collection of which is an Agatha all along.
I don't think that really spoils anything. But there's a
coven of witches and they are on essentially a quest,
and part of that quest is there's a test that's

(10:13):
kind of geared toward each of the individual witches, like
each each test is specified to a different witch in
the group. And so as I'm watching, I'm thinking, well,
that means that the future episodes we're going to get
are going to be more instances of these tests. So
knowing that, I felt a little bit better because it

(10:38):
just means that we're going to get variations on this
in the next couple of episodes, probably unless they depart
from the formula, which they might do. WandaVision did that,
but I'm alright with that. But I feel like it
didn't feel like it was treading water to meet, which
is what a lot of series end up feeling like.

Speaker 1 (10:56):
So the tests are fine. I love that the test
are kind of keyed to different characters or situations or whatever.
I'm totally fine with that. That is not the problem.
I thought that the test that they gave this particular
character in this episode, who I think is one of
my more favorite characters in the series, was a little
bit weak. I compared to the last test and the

(11:21):
second episode, there wasn't. I didn't feel the same like
emergency of direness at all, Like it didn't feel like
they were seriously about to lose it every second to me.

Speaker 2 (11:39):
Gotcha.

Speaker 1 (11:40):
Also the way that they beat the test, Like, I
like it. You've got all these accomplished vocalists, right, you're
gonna use them. But that's the one trick pony for me,
because I've already heard that.

Speaker 2 (11:56):
Yeah, but this was the rock version of it. Yeah,
but I had new verses, But.

Speaker 1 (12:01):
I don't need like, and I realized that I'm in
the minority, and for everybody who loves it, that's fantastic.
I am so glad. It's like the first episode of Galivant.
They kept singing the same song over and over and over,
just with like different words, and it got so frustrating
to me, and I'm like, Okay, I've heard this now.

(12:22):
It is no longer impressive. Now it makes me feel
like you were too lazy to write another piece of music.
So and I say this as a band who does covers,
like I don't want more than one cover of it.

Speaker 2 (12:35):
Yeah, I understand that. Yeah, And it is definitely one
of those shows where they work the motif of the
song and do practically everything, like, I will not be
surprised if before this is done, they come across a
music box that plays a music box version of the
Witch's Road, Like, that's gonna be yet another thing. If

(12:57):
it doesn't happen, that will surprise me. But yeah, I
understand what you're saying, Like, I agree that using the
same piece of music, even with different arrangements, can get
a little bit tiresome. So I totally get what you're saying.

Speaker 1 (13:15):
Well what sorry, Sure, sure, I understand that it is
an act I felt like Catherine and Hans over acting
felt a little out of place at times, like her Bravado.

Speaker 2 (13:27):
It's her performance in general is interesting because it is
more heightened than any of the others, with the exception
of possibly Aubrey Plaza. Yeah, Aubrey Plaza is also kind
of like chewing the scenery, but she.

Speaker 1 (13:42):
Feels Aubrey Plaza feels more grounded to me, like, I
believe her choice is a little bit more And I
think Catherine Han's a phenomenal actress. I just a couple
of times this past episode it felt out of place.

Speaker 2 (13:55):
Yeah, I will say the costume design for that episode
was crazy, Like it's one of those things also where
they were making direct references to real rock and roll
musicians like Jennis Joplin and Share and that kind of thing.

(14:16):
But it was kind of crazy just seeing those A
lot of double side tape used in that episode.

Speaker 1 (14:22):
Yes, yes, for sure, for sure.

Speaker 2 (14:26):
So what else did you see besides Agatha all Along?

Speaker 1 (14:29):
Not much? Oh well, I guess a little bit more
than what I've got written down here. I finished Kevin
all Along. I loved it. I thought it was a
great journey. I like the way it wow.

Speaker 2 (14:37):
Kevin all Along man Agatha, not.

Speaker 1 (14:39):
Kevin all Along, Kevin Kinnef himself based half off of
Kevin all Along. I want I finished Kevin Kineff himself.
I loved it. I thought it was great. I thought
the way it ended was really good. I've been watching
Welcome to Wrexham, which neither myself nor my partner are
soccer fans at all. We like hockey and football, but

(15:02):
soccer just I think it's it's it's got a lot
of action like hockey, but nobody ever scores, so it's
it's I don't know, it's not quite our thing, but
I'm loving Welcome to Rexham. I think it is such
a great heartfelt piece on the people of a small

(15:22):
town that is just beautiful. And I watched the first
two episodes of season three of Oxmachina last night.

Speaker 2 (15:29):
Oh cool, so the animated series.

Speaker 1 (15:31):
Yes, yes, first three episodes dropped last night. I've only
watched too because I watched them with a group and
we do two episodes a night.

Speaker 2 (15:40):
Cool. I watched quite a few things since that last recording.
I watched episode two of The Penguin, which took a
while for me to be able to watch. Because they
premiered the first episode on a Thursday, they didn't have
episode two until not the following Sunday, but the Sunday
after that, and now their premiering individual episodes on Sundays,

(16:03):
so it was like a ten day gap between episodes
one and two. So we haven't had episode three yet
as we're recording this. I thought episode two was good.
I think that that I still don't really love this
version of the Penguin. I think Colin Ferrell's performance is phenomenal.

(16:26):
He disappears into the role, but the I'm still not
crazy about the penguin just being kind of a thug
who plays all sides and is playing so close to
the edge that he's bound to get cut, right, Like
that's the whole thing. I will say. Oh, I can't
remember the actress's name, Kristen something or other. She plays

(16:48):
Sophia Falcone. She is one so good and two it's
fun to see her play a menacing psychopath when she
also has a look that makes her look really vulnerable
because that juxtaposition where it turns out she's not the
vulnerable one in the room, right, she gives off the

(17:12):
view that that looks like she's the one who's going
to be the victim, but she's the victim miser, which
I think is fascinating. So I am enjoying the Penguin,
even though I don't care for this version of the character.
I like the series. I watched a film called Onyx,
The Fortuitous and the Talisman of Souls, and it's it's

(17:35):
a done by a guy who's had had this character
for years and years and years. He's this kind of
very odd, adhd, geeky, satanist kind of character, and I
mean he's appeared in videos for years and years on
lots of different platforms. But they did a feature link film.

(17:56):
It was like a crowd sourced, crowd funded fat link film.
So I watched it, and parts of it are entertaining,
but overall I did not care for it. I still
watch the whole thing, though, I got through the whole thing. Congratulations, yeah,
or I'm sorry. I watched a few episodes of The Mentalist,

(18:19):
which I never watched when it was on, but was
one of those things that's just kind of like a
little compilation of moments popped up in my YouTube recommendations.
And so then I went and started watching some episodes,
and I want to like it more, but I don't,
And I think the big reason for that is if

(18:40):
you don't know what the Mentalist is, it's a crime
procedural drama. The main character is a guy who used
to pose as a psychic, but he's he's clearly not
Psychics don't exist in this world. He's not a psychic.
He was a fraud but now he uses the same

(19:02):
powers of observation he used to great advantage as a
fraudster to try and help solve crimes while he's on
the hunt for a serial killer who dramatically changed his
family dynamic. Let's put it that way. That's a family
friendly way of putting it. But I find it frustrating

(19:22):
because I find that I think I keep wanting him
to do more with his skill set that he developed
as a psychic and for him to kind of relate
how he used that as a psychic, but they don't
do that very much, so it just comes across as
like a yet another variation off Sherlock Holmes, Like it

(19:44):
just feels like another hyper observant person who is at
least assumes he's the smartest person in the room and
usually he's right, and he also comes across very smug,
and so I'm like, I don't like this guy. I
like all the other characters, but I don't like him,

(20:05):
and I don't think I'm going to watch this anymore.
It's funny too, because I watched several episodes in the
first season and then I tried to watch several episodes
in the second half of the sixth season because spoiler,
he does eventually track down and eliminate the serial killer,
but that happens in like the first third of season six.

(20:28):
So I was curious. I was curious, how do they
continue the story after he's achieved the goal he had
at the beginning of the show. And the answer to
that is not very well. So, yeah, I was not
a fan. Probably I'm not going to watch any more
of it. I gave it a good go, but I'm
kind of disappointed with it. And the other thing that

(20:50):
I'll mention is I saw here in Atlanta. I went
and saw a performance of The Ghastly Dreadfuls, which is
a Halloween puppet show for adults that the Center for
Puppetry Arts puts on. They've put on a version of
this almost every year for like the last twenty years,
and I had seen all the individual pieces before, but

(21:15):
in an exciting turn, almost the entire cast is new. Like,
there are two people who have been in previous Ghastly
Dreadfuls before, maybe some of the others have sat in
as fill ins or whatever, but they weren't. It's typically
an ensemble piece that uses the same actors year after
year after year, so to see it where almost the

(21:37):
entire cast is new was really kind of exciting. It's
the same stories that I've seen before, but told in
slightly different ways. And the puppetry is phenomenal. So if
you're in Atlanta and you're looking for a live performance
to go to that's going to get you in sort
of the spooky silly side of Halloween. I highly recommend

(21:58):
the Ghastly Dreadfuls.

Speaker 1 (22:01):
Yeah. I haven't seen Ghastly Dreadfuls, but the puppetry for
Center Art Puppetry Center for the Arts is really good.
So I'm good at names.

Speaker 2 (22:10):
Yeah, yeah, you said all the words that are in
the name.

Speaker 1 (22:13):
Center for Puppetry Arts. I got it. Ha ha.

Speaker 2 (22:16):
Well, now that we've gone through that formality, let us
turn once more to our beloved segment, the one that
our fans cry out for every single time, thirty seconds
or less, and I'll go first. So, the second season
of Gremlins The Wild Batch launched this week and the

(22:38):
series shifts from China to San Francisco, California, which sets
up the story of how Gizmo found his way into
an old curiosity shop at the beginning of the original
Gremlins film. The original director of Gremlins, Joe Dante, has
indicated he would be open to doing a third Grimlins film,
but ultimately, quote, that's up to the audience. End quote.
So let's just all promise to go and see Grimlins three.

(23:02):
Same goes for season three of the Wild Batch, and
they can keep making that too.

Speaker 1 (23:05):
For sure. Paramount is making a live action hybrid Rugrats
movie for those of you who watched drug Rats in
the nineties us Theousins. I don't remember. I think it
was both. Anyhow, It's being helmed by director Jason Moore,
who worked on Pitch Perfect and also such things as
Avenue Q and Shrek the Musical, and also it's been

(23:29):
written by mikey Day. I don't know which characters they're
gonna make live action and which they're gonna make CGI
because all of the people characters look really weird. So
maybe Raptar, the Godzilla like toy will be the only
live action character.

Speaker 2 (23:49):
Here. I was hoping that they would trust Tara Strong
up as a baby and make her play the live
action character. Not too long ago, we mentioned that Josh
Brolin had turned down the role of Hal Jordan in
the upcoming DC series on HBO called Lanterns. Now, we
know who will be making sure that evil won't escape
his sight, and that's Kyle Chandler, whom you might know

(24:11):
from Friday Night Lights or Super Pumped. The series is
still casting and it's going to be shooting here in
Atlanta starting in early twenty twenty five. And I nominate
Ariel to play good Nort.

Speaker 1 (24:23):
Sure, I'll play that character. Which one's good Nort.

Speaker 2 (24:27):
Good Nor it's the big furry green lantern.

Speaker 1 (24:30):
Sure, I'm in. I'm totally in. Okay. Next, Lady Gauga's
coming out with two albums I believe post Joker Foley
I do. And one of them is called Harlequinn and
the other one is called LG seven, which I'm guessing
is Lady Gauga seven with like thirteen songs, one of

(24:54):
them came out already on September twenty seventh. But yeah,
that's interesting. I bet her music will be good. The
movie is not getting greater piece.

Speaker 2 (25:04):
Yeah, well, and here's the interesting bet that I referenced
earlier in this episode. I often get really upset because
a lot of media outlets will break a story about
geeky stuff and include spoilers in the headlines in the process,
But Forbes' is paulled. Tassi did not do that in
his article that's titled Rio Vidal and Teen's True Names

(25:25):
and Agatha all Along leak via Funko Pops. Now, I
did not read this piece because I do not want
to be spoiled, but I do want to give Tassi
a shout out for doing the right thing and keeping
the spoilers inside the article. For the record, he says
he would have rather avoided spoilers as well.

Speaker 1 (25:43):
Yeph spoiler. No, I don't have a spoiler. I have
no segue for this last story of mine, which is
that there is a new movie coming out called The
Electric State by Joe and Anthony Russo from who or
Who worked on Infinity War and Endgames. And it's about

(26:03):
a girl who's looking for her brother in a society
that's trying to rebuild after AI took over, and then
the humans want and put aid in kind of like
their own little section of the world. And it's just
it's an interesting piece on what makes you human when
you gain consciousness and who who are who's really human

(26:25):
after all? Is it the people with flesh and blood
and hearts or AI who have might not be horrible,
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (26:36):
See this whole time, I was hoping The Electric State
was going to be a reboot of the State, the
sketch comedy group.

Speaker 1 (26:45):
Teeth in the Electric Mayhem.

Speaker 2 (26:47):
No, well, I mean it could be.

Speaker 1 (26:49):
It could be the characters of the State.

Speaker 2 (26:53):
Because those guys, of course, they've gone on to do
tons of other stuff, like Michael Showalter and Michael ian
Black and Joe Yeah. Yeah, so many of them have
gone on to do lots of other stuff. Well, we
got that fun stuff out of the way before we
get into all of our news items. One thing we
did want to mention is that since the last time

(27:14):
we recorded the Geeks fhere, we've actually had several losses.
In the last couple of weeks, but one in particular
we wanted to give a shout out to was Dame
Maggie Smith, who passed away since the last time we recorded.
Maggie Smith, of course, has been in tons of different plays, movies,

(27:36):
TV shows for geeks. She might best be known as
Professor McGonagall from the Harry Potter series, but Maggie Smith
has been in tons of other stuff as well.

Speaker 1 (27:48):
Yeah, it's sad. Another one I'll say is said that
passed is John Amos, just because he passed a couple
of days ago and also influential actor and partially in
the geeksphere. Very sad.

Speaker 2 (28:04):
Yep. We also lost Gavin Kreele, who was a Broadway actor,
So for Broadway musical geeks, I mean, like I said,
there were quite a few that passed away since the
last time we recorded. So our hearts go out to
all their friends and family, even the.

Speaker 1 (28:19):
Ones we didn't mention. We're sorry if we didn't mention.

Speaker 2 (28:22):
Yes, yeah, I mean it was We didn't want this
to become an in memoriam episode. So we're going to
move on and talk about a whole bunch of different
teasers and trailers that came out over those last two weeks,
one of those being a fairly lengthy teaser for Thunderbolts asterisk.

(28:45):
So that's of course going to be the group of
anti hero slash villain types who band together as a
kind of Dark Avengers. In fact, I've heard a lot
of folks speculate that the asterisk on Thunderbolts is to
indicate that in the movie, they're going to end up

(29:06):
becoming the Dark Avengers. That might be the case, we
don't know.

Speaker 1 (29:10):
Yeah, the trailer is good. I'm gonna be real honest.
My husband shared the leak trailer from I guess Comic Con,
so I had already seen most of it, but it's
definitely better in actual release high definition. It looks good enough.

(29:31):
There is a jumping spider in here. Get away from me.
I don't like you.

Speaker 2 (29:37):
That's an exciting little moment for all of our listeners
back home.

Speaker 1 (29:41):
My my, I don't know if you're gonna keep it in,
but I'm gonna describe it like you are. My best friend.
Slash sister has several jumping spiders as pets. I have
a rachnophobia, so it's really wonderful that I.

Speaker 2 (29:54):
That's what I got.

Speaker 1 (30:00):
That I didn't kill it. I'm gonna scare it away.
Hold on, go shoot bye, Eat the bugs, eat all
the nats in my home. Don't come near me.

Speaker 2 (30:11):
I haven't decided if I'm going to keep this or
not yet.

Speaker 1 (30:14):
You can cut it if you want, but you're welcome
to keep it in. I'm fully it's gone. I can't
see it, so it's fine, okay.

Speaker 2 (30:22):
Yeah, so Thunderbolts. Ariel really liked the trailer, except for
the part where the spider jumped on.

Speaker 1 (30:27):
Too many spiders. Too many spiders.

Speaker 2 (30:32):
Were there? Were there just the right number of spiders
for the second trailer of Red One.

Speaker 1 (30:38):
Yes, just the right amount of spiders for Red One,
which is none that I can remember. We got the
second trailer for it. Red One is Dwayne Johnson and
Chris Evans, save Santa Claus. There were no spiders, but
there were two rock'm Sockham robots, which delighted me and

(30:59):
I I'm looking forward to this movie. I really enjoyed
the nw Jumunji movies, and I'm looking forward to this
not Jamunji installment of ridiculousness. Ridiculousness cool.

Speaker 2 (31:11):
Yeah, this is one I think I'm gonna skip.

Speaker 1 (31:14):
But it's unfortunate.

Speaker 2 (31:15):
I'm glad that you are excited for it.

Speaker 1 (31:19):
Yes, well, you didn't watch the two nu Jumunji movies either,
did you. Nope, they were look Tony is a can
be a grumpy personnickity person sometimes, and he enjoyed the
nw Jumunji movies, both of them. He was not looking
forward to them, but he quite enjoyed them. They're actually

(31:39):
pretty good.

Speaker 2 (31:40):
Well, next up, we got a trailer for the film
Canary Black. This is a spy film. Kate Beckhamsale is
the star of this movie. It's coming out on Amazon
on October twenty fourth. And yeah, it's like a bang bang,

(32:01):
shoot them up spy movie thing.

Speaker 1 (32:05):
Yeah, I'm glad Kate Beckinsale is getting to do actiony
stuff again. I guess she has been, but she didn't
for a while. This honestly doesn't feel very new to me.
But it looks fun.

Speaker 2 (32:23):
Yeah, I mean it made me think of like it
kind of falls into a lot of the the the
action spy type films that we've seen over the last
several years. Like clearly it's heavily inspired by stuff like
James Bond or Mission Impossible and a lot of those

(32:44):
other like second tier spy movies. I'm sure it'll be
entertaining enough, you know. I'm hopeful that it will be
something that is worth the expense of having made it.
I think it looks expensive.

Speaker 1 (33:05):
It does, I've got good talent in it. I will
say I did confuse it with both Red Sparrow and
Atomic Blonde.

Speaker 2 (33:11):
At first, so fair enough. I mean, like especially Atomic Blonde,
it definitely has that kind of energy going for it.
Whereas the next movie we have, we talked about this
film on a previous episode where we got a teaser
for kind of a black comedy horror kind of film

(33:32):
called Rumors. Now we have a longer trailer. I assume
this was not something that was triggering your fear response,
because I don't think it looks particularly scary.

Speaker 1 (33:45):
No, it's not. However, one of the stories we dropped
because we got full trailer for the platform too, totally
triggered my ick. Nope, can't watch it fears, So I'm
glad we dropped that. No, Rumors looks interesting, it's they
the trailer. It's elf compares it to like I guess
Night of the Living Dead meets Doctor Strangelove or is

(34:07):
it evil dead Doctor Strangelove.

Speaker 2 (34:12):
Either probably, I think, oh that's a good question. The
zombies or the zombie like things seem to move more
neither living dead to me than evil dead. But yeah,
the Doctor Strangelove totally makes sense. This is the film
where it's about a bunch of world leaders who are
meeting at a summit to try and hash out their

(34:34):
response to global crises. And then meanwhile, crazy weird stuff
starts to happen and they're all kind of caught up
in it. And so how do these how do these
world leaders survive during this bizarre, almost supernatural kind of
crisis while also still trying to solve the world's problems.

Speaker 1 (34:55):
The answer is from the trailer, not that well. Yeah, yeah,
there's like bog corpses that maybe reanimate in a giant
brain and like people's minds get taken over. It gave
me very like bubbajotep vibes.

Speaker 2 (35:09):
Oh yeah, that's a good that's a good one, because yeah,
that was definitely a horror comedy. And yeah, I think
this looks like a better film for Kate Blanchett than
say Borderlands.

Speaker 1 (35:21):
For sure, for sure, still comedic and maybe action y,
but you know, I think Borderlands had a better video
quality than Rumors, But Rumors has a better video quality
than the next trailer you want to talk about.

Speaker 2 (35:38):
Well, that's because the next trailers for a series that
is specifically trying to evoke that nineteen eighties slash nineties
era VCR experience. And so we're talking about the trailer
for VHS Beyond, the latest of the VHS series. There's

(35:58):
quite a few of these at this point.

Speaker 1 (36:00):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (36:00):
It's funny because I know someone who is in one
of these. Uh because Justin Justin, Justin Welburn was in
one of the previous entries of VHS. And I'm also
I'm a fan of a uh, a game creator and
YouTuber who is in this one, VHS Beyond. So I'm

(36:23):
looking forward to seeing this one and seeing how how
how her performance comes out because she's not an actor,
but uh, the she's in a piece that was written
by Kate Siegel, who is the partner of Mike Flanagan,
who did all like The Haunting of Hill House and
that kind of stuff. So m hm, So yeah, I'm

(36:46):
I'm curious about this one. It actually sounds to me
like this one is a big step up compared to
some earlier ones. But it's funny because, like I've I've
known some of the people behind the scenes of this series,
people who have directed one or two. Actually, now I
think about I knew one of the actors from the
first VHS as well. But yeah, I put it in

(37:07):
here because I'm a fan of what they're trying to do.
It's always an anthology series, so it's a series of
different shorts that get grouped together in a film, and
typically there's like some connective tissue between the shorts that
access kind of bridging material. But uh, did you watch

(37:28):
the trailer, Aeriel.

Speaker 1 (37:29):
I did not watch much of the trailer.

Speaker 2 (37:30):
No.

Speaker 1 (37:32):
I put it on two point speed. I put it
on two time speed and blop bloop, nope, nope, nope, nope,
nope all the way through.

Speaker 2 (37:39):
Good lord, I am gonna have to arrange a horror
movie night and just have Aeriel over and we're gonna
watch some horror movies that that that are entertaining and
not like Squidgy or whatever, just just to kind of
like dip your toe in.

Speaker 1 (37:56):
I occasionally watch horror movies. I need to be well
aware of what's going to happen in it. Beforehand. It
can't have body horror, it can't be torture porn, and
if it deals with creatures in the dark, I don't
do well with that.

Speaker 2 (38:10):
So that does that does eliminate a lot of horror?

Speaker 1 (38:14):
Yes, yes, so, I mean but like, I've watched Cabin
in the Woods. I watched it knit to both the
originals and the new one. I watched The Stand, which
I don't really think counts as horror. You know. I
watched Jaws, an Attack of killer clowns from Outer Space,
and Jurassic Park, and those are all scary. I watched

(38:39):
the one where Will Smith was with his dog and
there were vampire type creatures from us.

Speaker 2 (38:48):
Is that legend?

Speaker 1 (38:49):
Legend? Yeah, so I've watched, I've watched I watched scary movies.
I watched all of season one of Last of Us
except for one episode, which dealt with people monsters, not
monster monsters. So I like some horror. And I also
like the trailer for season two of Last of Us.

Speaker 2 (39:08):
Yes, that's our next, our next item of discussion. It's fine,
but yeah, we got the trailer for season two, and
it gives a hint about some of the stuff we
can expect. It does seem to be setting up some
stuff that happens in the second game of Last of

(39:28):
Us Last of Us Too. We've already heard that the
story they're going to tell is going to span across
two seasons, so I understand why if you've played Last
of Us Too you will too. But yeah, it definitely
looks like it's going to be really intense. It's weird

(39:49):
because I actually don't know if I'm going to be
able to watch this one because I know what happens
in the game, and I don't know that I want
to see it in the show.

Speaker 1 (39:57):
I've not played either game. I know one of the
things that happens, it's I it's if you're referring to
the thing where Laura Bailey, who voices a certain character
in Last of Us to the video game, got death
threats because of something her character did, like real life
death threats to her and her family based off of
what her character did, then I know about that.

Speaker 2 (40:20):
Yeah, that would definitely be it. No one deserves death
threats for something that happens within a fictional universe. I
think we both can come down firmly on that side.

Speaker 1 (40:33):
Yeah. Yeah, So I hope that the actress who portrays
that character in the show does not have similar problems.
Hopefully whoever lost their mind and did that in the
first place has since regained their faculties. Yeah, I it
looks good. It definitely does look more intense. The first season,

(40:55):
the trailers made it seem like it would be creepy
and there would be tense moments, but it also had
a lot of like heartfelt in it. This trailer also
has some heartfelt, but I do feel like it leans
more on the scary crap is going downside of it.

Speaker 2 (41:10):
Yeah, which makes sense again from the context of the
second game. Yeah, just like The Walking Dead, the Last
of Us ultimately ends up exploring more about the things
that humans do two and four each other more than
any of the monster stuff. Right, like that, the monster

(41:31):
stuff is a present and constant threat, but the real
issue is how do you interact with humans when everybody
is put into survival mode? And so that's going to
be cranked up to eleven. I think for the Last
of Us season two, I'm sure it's going to be phenomenal.

(41:51):
I bet that they're going to have some episodes that
will be significant departures from the game we got that
in season one, and my favorite episode, maybe my favorite
episode of television ever was a massive departure, and I
thought it was an absolutely beautiful episode.

Speaker 1 (42:12):
Was that the one with Nick Offerman? M hmmm, yeah, yeah,
that was That was a heartbreaking, wonderful episode.

Speaker 2 (42:18):
Long long time. That's a great, great episode.

Speaker 1 (42:21):
Yeah. I definitely am going to try to watch season
two of Last of Us I I so far have
enjoyed it far more than I have enjoyed Walking Dead.
I've said this before because I felt like there was hope.
I don't know if that will maintain in season two,
but I hope that they continue to find a good
balance because that's what made season one really spectacular.

Speaker 2 (42:45):
Agreed, Well, then, next up, we got a trailer for Ballerina,
which is a spin off film from the John Wick series.
We talked about this, I think like a year or
two ago we were talking about how there was gonna
be a Ballerina film, and now we got a trailer
for it.

Speaker 1 (43:04):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (43:05):
The only thing I really have to say about is
that if you've missed john Wick, this will this will
probably scratch that itch.

Speaker 1 (43:14):
Yeah, if you miss john Wick and Black Widow didn't
come out recently, enough Black.

Speaker 2 (43:22):
No, there was another, like I think two john Wick
films since the last Black Widow movie have there.

Speaker 1 (43:28):
I just Ballerina looks good, but it looks like this
the Black Widow storyline.

Speaker 2 (43:34):
Yes, it does look a lot like Black Widow. Also,
John Wick does show up in the trailer, so he
will be in the movie.

Speaker 1 (43:41):
Yes, yeah, it could be. They could do an MCU
crossover because john Wick is called the Bobba Yaga and
there's one an ant Man just saying.

Speaker 2 (43:53):
Is there a Bubba Yaga an ant Man.

Speaker 1 (43:56):
It's a whole running gag with David dust Mulchian.

Speaker 2 (43:59):
Oh man, I'm gonna have to go back and look
it up again. Yeah, because it's like he never shows up.
But I think he's like to Baba Yaga. He says
it a lot.

Speaker 1 (44:06):
I'm not.

Speaker 2 (44:07):
I think I'll have to look that up because I've
only seen the ant Man movies. I've seen each of
the ant Man films one time because my partner has
a phobia about insects in general, so she'll never go
see any of those. I've never bothered to rewatch them.
But I don't remember that at all. I do know

(44:29):
that Bobba Yaga is kind of a mistake in John Wick.
I'm pretty sure that they meant a different Russian term
for boogieman that sounds kind of similar to Bobby Yaga,
But Bobby Yaga is like a Hungarian witch who lives
in a hut that walks around on chicken legs.

Speaker 1 (44:47):
So yeah, also, I guess kind of speaking of funny mistakes, haha,
there we go. Our next trailer is for a movie
called get Away about a family who makes a possibly
dire mistake, and it's presented in kind of a funny way.

Speaker 2 (45:05):
Yeah. Nick Frost is sort of anchoring this film as
the patriarch of the family that goes on vacation to
a close knit community where you get the feeling like
they probably engage in pagan practices, Like it's giving me
wicker Man energy. But imagine, like imagine National Lampoons wicker

(45:31):
Man where the Griswolds are on vacation in Europe and
they stumble upon a village that does paganistic rituals.

Speaker 1 (45:39):
Yeah. Yeah, apparently in the past there there was a
bunch of mishaps and maybe cannibalism and a bunch of
killing people in the storyline of this movie. On the island,
and so this family is warned not even to go there.
I suspect it's gonna be vaguely hot, fuzzigh in like
there's it's definitely messed up, but in a different way

(46:00):
then we're expecting.

Speaker 2 (46:02):
That would be great. I would love for them to
subvert expectations and for it to be a kind of
rug pole thing and not just be, oh, yeah, the
thing we're obviously setting up that's actually what happened. That
would be a little kind of a disappointment, I think.
So I hope you're right, because I think that would
be a lot of fun. I mean, it looks like

(46:22):
it looks like it's it's going to be entertaining, at
least as far as the trailer. Like that looked entertaining
to me. So this is one that I will probably
check out.

Speaker 1 (46:32):
Yeah, it looks funny. It does look pretty bloody as
a warning.

Speaker 2 (46:36):
But yeah, but if you like your horror comedy and
you don't mind a little blood, check it out at
least watch the trailer.

Speaker 1 (46:44):
Yeah yeah, so Jonathan, Yeah, what did you think of
the the next trailer?

Speaker 2 (46:53):
So this is for a series that's going to be
on Peacock called hysteria, and it's about a group of kids,
like teenagers who or maybe young adults, but I think
they're supposed to be teenagers. But they they form a
band or they're in a band that they decide they're

(47:15):
going to cater to create liketan satanic music in order
to tap into the satanic panic that's going on, because
they realize that if they do that, if they court controversy,
it's going to get people to pay attention to them,
whereas if they were to just be a band and

(47:38):
play their music without the gimmick, maybe no one would
pay attention. So it's kind of that idea of like,
there's all this satanic panic going on, why don't we
just exploit that for our own personal gain? Which I
appreciate the premise. I'm not sold on watching the series yet.

Speaker 1 (47:58):
Yeah, the series feel it's very much like, well, it's
got Bruce Campbell for one.

Speaker 2 (48:03):
So you know that is that's a big selling point honestly.

Speaker 1 (48:07):
Yeah. Yeah, but it feels like kind of like Buffy
meets Stranger Things, because they do accidentally You did blit
out for a second, so I don't know if you
said this, but they do accidentally summon things, and you know,
I like the concept kind of it amused me to

(48:28):
watch the trailer. I don't know if I will watch it. Yeah,
but I also really like Bruce Campbell, so it's hard
for me not to give something he's in a shot.

Speaker 2 (48:35):
Same and also, like I lived through the Satanic panic,
Like I was growing up when that was going on,
where it was covering music and role playing games and
TV and movies, more movies than TV. There wasn't much
horror television on in the early eighties, but there was
a lot of horror movies. There were a lot of
heavy metal bands where there was the rumor of backmask

(48:59):
game where supposedly you had all these backward secret messages
that were satanic in nature or whatever. People were worried
about dungeons and dragons and that would corrupt people's minds
and they would think they were casting spells for real,
and next thing you know, they're worshiping the devil. So like,
all of this is based off stuff that was really
going on, especially in the eighties, So that has me

(49:23):
kind of interested just because watching something that's sort of
set in that world that's kind of satirizing it that
that hasn't appealed to me. But I again, this trailer,
I don't know, it was like it had all the
pieces that should absolutely hook me. I'm not convinced yet.

Speaker 1 (49:42):
Yeah, it didn't quite hit the mark. I agree. Speaking
of not hitting the mark, I will say the title
of the next movie that we got a trailer for
did not hit the mark for me so much so
that when we first saw the title, or maybe I
had this conversation with Tony not you, Jonathan, I was like,
I bet this is a survivalist mountain climbing movie, and

(50:05):
that's a movie called Elevation.

Speaker 2 (50:08):
Yeah, it turns out it's it's not really it's not
like Cliffhanger with Sylvester Stallone.

Speaker 1 (50:15):
It's not that Rushmore mount Rushmore or whatever I.

Speaker 2 (50:18):
Was gonna say. Rushmore is a movie about election in
a high school.

Speaker 1 (50:22):
Watched it.

Speaker 2 (50:24):
There's no climbing, at least well social climbing, but otherwise
Rushmore is a different thing. But yeah, so this this
is a film with Anthony Mackie and Marina bakerund in it.
So we've got some geek geek actors in there, or
at least they're known for Greek properties. Anthony Mackie being
Falcon slash Captain America in the MCU, Marina Backeran being

(50:47):
in Deadpool as well as in Firefly. So we've got
some folks who are known for their their appearances and
other geek properties. And yeah, the the one line description
of this is a single father and two women must
venture from the safety of their home to face monstrous

(51:07):
creatures in order to save the life of a child.
So it does feel like it's in that realm of
almost like post apocalypse kind of films where aliens or
monsters have really started to force the survivors to be
super careful and protect themselves, so things like a quiet place,

(51:30):
that kind of stuff, where there was that movie, what
was it? Was it halle Berry? Who's in a film
where everyone has to be tethered something like that where
they have to Yeah, I think you're right. I think
it is Never Let Go where they're all tethered to
their house. It feels like this is yet another entrigue
into that subgenre of sci fi horror, and I'm like,

(51:50):
how many versions of this are we going to get?
There was a Nick Cage variation of this not long
ago too, so.

Speaker 1 (51:57):
Yeah, yeah, it is interesting. You mentioned A Quiet Place,
which is also they bring that up during the trailer
because I think some of the team who worked on
A Quiet Place worked on this movie, and the aliens
seem kind of similar to that, or the aliens from Diren.

Speaker 2 (52:16):
Repeat, Live Di repeat, Live Di repeat. I love Every
time this movie comes up, I think you choose three
different words to be live, laugh, love, eat, prayed repeat.

Speaker 1 (52:31):
Yesh live laugh, let them have it.

Speaker 2 (52:38):
Yeah, I love it. Listen. I'm on board to work
on a project that works with that title.

Speaker 1 (52:45):
Cool, let's get let's get a Hollywood budget and get
that going. Yeah. This actually, I mean it looks it
looks good.

Speaker 2 (52:55):
It does look good. I don't know if it's going
to differentiate itself enough from those other examples of this
subgenre to have it stand out. Like I think that's
part of the problem I have is that it's kind
of like after Blair Witch came out and there were
a lot of movies that were trying to tap into
that same kind of vibe, but you can't really recreate

(53:20):
that success. And I'm feeling that this is it's in
danger of falling into that trap. Now, maybe it's good
enough to stand on its own and I'll be happy
to admit as much once I if I do watch it.
Once I watch it, but I worry that it does
kind of feel like it's a copy of a copy almost,

(53:43):
and I'm not sure that there's enough there to have
it like elevate ironically, elevate above all the competing films
in this subgenre.

Speaker 1 (53:55):
Very clever, even though obviously slightly unintentional. Speaking of a
copy of a copy. We finally got a full trailer
for a second full trailer, first full trailer for Nosparatu.

Speaker 2 (54:06):
I think it's the first full trailer for Nosparatu.

Speaker 1 (54:09):
Teezers and trailers seem so similar nowadays.

Speaker 2 (54:12):
Yeah. I like to think of teasers as being here's
the aesthetic for our film, and maybe a couple of
hero shots of actors that you know, and then the
trailer is here's all the spoilers that we should have
kept for the film. Yeah, so we got nos Faratu
trailer now. Not the original Nosfaratu. The Silent film was

(54:35):
very much a ripoff of Dracula. All the character names
were changed, but it was Dracula, and the design of
the vampire was done in a much more kind of
rat like, animalistic appearance as opposed to suave vampire and
like a tuxedo in cape or something. So this one

(54:58):
is staying true to that silent film version, at least
as far as designs go. It looks very dirty and
dark and and scary and intense. So what did you
think of this trailer?

Speaker 1 (55:14):
I thought it looked a lot like bram Stoker's Dracula
put under the filter of Penny Dreadful. So basically, just
let's yes and to the gore.

Speaker 2 (55:23):
Yeah, yeah, I can't. I can't argue with that.

Speaker 1 (55:27):
Like I mean, I mean, like the was it Copola?

Speaker 2 (55:30):
Who did Yeah, Francis Ford Coppola's Francis Ford Coppola's bram
Stoker's Dracula, Yes.

Speaker 1 (55:39):
On ice. Yes, you don't want to mix fake blood
with ice, so he gets so, so you.

Speaker 2 (55:44):
Don't want to mix Keanu Reeves with Dracula either, But
we got it anyway.

Speaker 1 (55:49):
I mean, I thought he did fine in bram Stoker's Dracula.

Speaker 2 (55:53):
How how how recently have you seen that movie?

Speaker 1 (55:57):
I watched portions of it on a plane in a
couple of years ago.

Speaker 2 (56:02):
Yeah, I think I'd be.

Speaker 1 (56:04):
Cuvertions of it because I can't bring myself to watch
anything with sexy bits on a plane. In case there's
a kid.

Speaker 2 (56:11):
Watching, I'd be curious to hear what your take is
if you were to watch it now. I personally think
Keanu Reeves gives one of the worst performances in his
career as well as in the film. And he's not
the only one there are like Gary Oldman's fantastic Anthony

(56:32):
Hopkins feels like he's in the wrong movie. But I
do love his performance.

Speaker 1 (56:38):
Yeah, I think. I mean, I'm sure part of it
is colored by the fact that, like I remember, like
my first my introduction to horror that I liked was
reading Frankenstein and reading Dracula in like a graphic novel
version Frankenstein. I would it's hard to call that horror,

(57:03):
but uh but yeah, so, like there's just there's probably
a little bit of built in bias there. I do
like the old classic Universal monsters. I don't I don't
know if this one's gonna hit that vibe.

Speaker 2 (57:20):
For me, though, Yeah, I think this one looks intense.
Uh yeah, I'll be I'll probably watch it. I do
like the basic story of Dracula, which is again pretty
much what Nosferatu is. I I also am still tickled

(57:40):
that Willem Dafoe isn't it because Willem Dafoe was in
Shadow of the Vampire many years ago, where that was
supposed to be kind of a behind the scenes look
at what the making of Nosferatu was all about, and
the joke being not really joke, it's not really a comedy,
it's kind of attire, but the gag being that they've

(58:04):
cast an actual vampire to be Nosferatu, and Willem Dafoe
plays that character who was Max Shrek In the actual
production of nos Faratu was an actor named Max Shrek
who played the vampire Count Orlock. So in Shadow of
the Vampire, Willem Dafoe was Max Shrek, so he was

(58:25):
the Nosferatu vampire. He has a great line that was
in all the trailers where the director is yelling at
him for having bitten the lead actresses. Why didn't you
just eat the script girl? And he says, ee lee,
and it's just a ridiculous, ridiculous line. The rest of
the movie is not as funny, by the way, but
it is cool that Willem Dafoe is in nos Farrtu

(58:47):
as well.

Speaker 1 (58:47):
That is nice. It's also fun that Nicholas Holt is
in nos Feratu as he was He's playing essentially, I
think Keanu Reeves' character, but he was also in another
vampire movie, Renfield.

Speaker 2 (58:59):
Yes, yeah, he played Renfield in Renfield with Nick Cage
playing that version of Dracula. So yeah, it is funny.
Wat Renfield is okay. I wish it were better. I
wish it were better. It's not bad, it just it's
one of those where you were, at least for me,
I walked out of it thinking that movie had a

(59:24):
couple of really good ideas and a couple of them
turned out okay, and that's that's how I felt. Now,
other people might love Renfield, which is totally fine, totally legit,
but yeah, for me, it was one of those kind
of missed opportunity movies where I didn't I wasn't angry
that I watched it, but it wasn't It didn't hit
my favorites or anything like that.

Speaker 1 (59:46):
Gotcha? Gotcha? Well, Uh, something that you've talked about kind
of did hit you in the right way is the
Yakuza video game series. Because we've talked about a TV
show that's coming out, and now we've got a full
trailer for it.

Speaker 2 (01:00:02):
Yeah, it's for the Like a Dragon series. So Like
a Dragon is the official name of that video game series.
Here in America. It was called Yakuza for most of
the games, and then just recently they've made the switch
over to Like a Dragon, where Yakuza then becomes a

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subtitle as opposed to the main title. But yeah, Like
a Dragon we're getting the live action series. We got
a trailer for it. It is based on earlier entries
in the video game series and looks like it's gonna
be a really stylized crime procedural drama kind of thing.

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Now I guess not procedural crime drama.

Speaker 1 (01:00:51):
Yeah, it looks it looks good. I really like that.
There are in the cinematography. There are a bunch of
tricks that they do that make it feel like a
video game at points stylistically without making it feel too
cgi or too cheesy, and I really like that.

Speaker 2 (01:01:11):
Yeah, I totally agree. I think they've got a good
balance of the style for this, which is tricky. I
am curious how zany it will get. Those games have
some pretty crazy stuff happen. It's not the main part
of the storyline, but it happens in all of them.
It's kind of like Grand Theft Auto in that way,

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where you get just little little side quests or side
characters who are really weird. So like, are we going
to have an episode where a bunch of grown men
who are like in their fifties or dressed like babies?
I don't know. Will there be entire episodes dedicated to karaoke?
I sure hope.

Speaker 1 (01:01:53):
So I hope we get those inny bits too. I
didn't really see any of them in the trailer. Yeah, yeah, same,
But you know, I guess we have the two seasons
of the Brother's Son or the one season we have
a Brother's Son for that true.

Speaker 2 (01:02:12):
Next up, we got a trailer for a new series
coming out from Apple TV Plus. It stars Billy Crystal,
but he's not playing like the sardonic, sarcastic comedic character
he usually would play. It's called Before, And it looks
to me like there are a lot of elements where

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it's sort of the unreliable narrator thing of are the
things you're watching? Are they sort of supernatural in nature?
Or is it psychological in nature? And we're kind of
getting a glimpse into mental illness, that kind of thing.
Hard to say, but I will say I thought the
trailer was pretty effective.

Speaker 1 (01:02:55):
I did too. It gave me, like slightly A lot
of the trailer focuses around Billy Crystal and this kid,
and the kid gives me like good sun vibes the
good Son because it's just kind of a kid who
seems to either have to have some sort of premonition

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or not be completely okay.

Speaker 2 (01:03:20):
Yeah, he seems troubled is the word I would use.

Speaker 1 (01:03:24):
Yeah. Yeah, but it does look good. It looks scary.
I'm interested to figure out what is real and what
is not. Something else that I think is cool about
this because you said it's got Billy Crystal playing like
a serious character, which I'm all for. He looks phenomenal
in the bits I've seen of it. It's also got
Judith Light from Who's the Boss. And it's also got

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Rosie Perez in it, so I love that.

Speaker 2 (01:03:49):
Yeah, I think the trailer shows that the people who
are all in this are doing really good work. I'm
curious enough where I will probably checked this out to
see if it's something that I kind of vibe with
or if it's going to be something that I'm just like,
I appreciate what this is doing, but it's not for me.
I just don't know yet, but I'm probably going to

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check out the first episode. Honestly, there are a lot
of things that have been on Apple tv Plus that
I ended up really liking. But I also recognize that
it's a dangerous time to get emotionally attached to good
content on Apple tv Plus because Apple just recently, like
did kind of a massive budget cut for their content

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on that platform.

Speaker 1 (01:04:38):
Yeah. Yeah, and Paramount just closed it in their TV
division recently too, which we talked about. There are things,
I will say there, at least in Atlanta, there are
some things being made so we won't be completely without content,
but it is scary. It's scary from a I'm looking
forward to these things. They better not cut Murder Bond Diaries,

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is all I'm saying. Yeah, that would be a bad choice.

Speaker 2 (01:05:05):
Well, moving from Apple tv Plus over to Netflix, we
also got a trailer for an upcoming series it's going
to debut in December of this year, called No Good Deed.
It's a comedy series and has a lot of recognizable
names in it, including Ray Romano, Lisa Kudro, Linda Cardellini,

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Luke Wilson is in it, Dennis Leary is in it,
and more. And the basic plot is that it's three
families eyeing to buy the same house, which they all
think will solve their problems. And now that I say
the premise out loud, I'm like, there's not really a

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big geek connection to this. But it does look like.

Speaker 1 (01:05:55):
Linda Cardellini was in Avengers.

Speaker 2 (01:05:58):
There we go.

Speaker 1 (01:05:59):
That's looking.

Speaker 2 (01:06:00):
That's all we needed. But yeah, I think it looks.
It looks fun, It looks it looks like it could
be a fun series. Also, Dennis Larry's in it. Dennis
Larry was in one of the Spider Man movies. Don't
ask me to tell you which one. I think it
was one of the Andrew Garfield ones.

Speaker 1 (01:06:18):
Yeah, yeah, no, yes, it was in one of the
Andrew Garfield ones. He played Gwen Stacy's dad. I think
this is done by the same team that did Dead
to Me, which I heard was brilliant. It's actually on
my short list of shows to watch when I run
out of Wrexham. But but not the same story and

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not the same vibe at all. It actually gives me
vibes of a different TV show from Netflix that also
kind of didn't get a whole lot of play, which
is the woman in the House across the street from
the Girl in the Window, Oh.

Speaker 2 (01:06:55):
Right, right, right, the spoof of those movies where Karen
observes what appears to be a crime, and the movie
the movie is largely about did what they see actually happened?
Or did they misinterpret or imagine? And yah, was it?
Was it? A what's her name? She was? Anna? And Frozen?

Speaker 1 (01:07:18):
Kristin Bell?

Speaker 2 (01:07:19):
Kristen Bell? Was she in that?

Speaker 1 (01:07:21):
Yes? Okay, yeah, yeah, So it kind of gives me like,
obviously the premise is not quite as zany at first glance,
but I am very interested the cast alone, and it's
a dark comedy, so I yeah, I can't finish a thought,
but I do want to see it.

Speaker 2 (01:07:42):
Well. And the last thing we have on our list
is a highly anticipated entry in Netflix and it's season
two of Squid Games. So we got a teaser. The
teaser does not really I mean, it doesn't give you
any insight into what's going to happen for season two.
It's really following very briefly following the morning of one

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of the employees who goes out and tries to find
potential contestants in the Squid Games. So there's no real
insight into what's going to happen in season two at all.
It's more like atmospheric.

Speaker 1 (01:08:24):
Yeah, we just know that there's going to be a game.
We did get a previous teaser for it. This is
the second teaser, I would say for Squid Games two.
The first one vaguely showing some people from the game,
which I guess is a spoiler for me because I
haven't finished season one. But that's okay.

Speaker 2 (01:08:41):
Well, and season one's good. I mean, I do recommend
watching all of it, but yeah, don't expect a lot
of returning faces.

Speaker 1 (01:08:54):
Now, I don't it. It is so dark. Oh yeah,
it is so dark and just I won't even say
to start disturbing because I know the premise. So it's
not like the premise is super like catching me off guard,
but it's upsetting and sad, like it's heartbreaking.

Speaker 2 (01:09:13):
So yeah, well, I mean it's meant to be one
of those that really shows like this huge gap between
the haves and have nots. It's the same kind of
basic underlying structure that you have in stuff like Hunger Games,
right where the whole ideas, you've got these very influential,
very wealthy people who see the less fortunate as just

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being fodder for their own amusement and nothing more. Like
they don't see him as human beings. They see him
as like, these are people whose lives don't matter, So
it doesn't matter if we make them compete against each
other to the death, because who's going to miss them?
Like That's it's very very cynical, but that's the whole point.

Speaker 1 (01:09:55):
Yeah, it is interesting because they have even though it's
a similar premise, they have very different feels because in
hunger games they pit the people against each other or
against the elements and the bourgeoisie, I guess have kind
of a hands off approach to the killing, whereas in
squid games that is not the case.

Speaker 2 (01:10:17):
Yeah, no, it's not typically the contestants turning on each other.
It's them against whatever the game is, and the people
who are behind the scenes and squid games are very much,
at least indirectly responsible for each and every death. Like
even if they say, oh, I didn't pull the trigger,
I'm like no, but you're the one participating in this

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what you consider to be a spectator sport or a
betting game. Yeah, it's it's dark stuff, and I'm sure
season two will be equally as dark. It'll be interesting
to see how they try to further the narrative, if
they bother to or if they'll just make it more
like it's a sense season one, just with new characters.

Speaker 1 (01:11:02):
I have thoughts because we know that one of the
survivors comes back.

Speaker 2 (01:11:10):
Yeah, so we'll have to see how that plays out.
I'm sure it'll be another big hit. I mean, Squid
Games was kind of one of those phenomenon type shows
when it came out, so I suspect season two well,
I mean it may not reach the same heights. I
don't know. Maybe people have moved on, but I think
there'll be plenty who will be curious to at least
check out the beginning of season two. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:11:32):
I agree, and that's all we have to talk about.
If it's a slightly weird episode, it's just we had
some connectivity issues. Maybe Jonathan will keep them all in
and you'll get to hear a wonky sort of an episode.

Speaker 2 (01:11:49):
I'm actually dreading what it's going to be like when
I download these files and whether or not mine is
going to be one file or like twelve different files,
because mine was the connect that kept dropping out.

Speaker 1 (01:12:01):
So if you've gotten this episode and you've gotten this far,
then Jonathan has survived the editing games.

Speaker 2 (01:12:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:12:10):
But Jonathan, if people want to reach out to us
to ask a question or to be like, whoa dude,
you did it. Great job editing, which you guys should
do all the time. Anyhow, how do they do that?

Speaker 2 (01:12:23):
So you're gonna go to your front door, open it
wide and step right. Then you're going to car, but
just be careful so that you don't get hit. And
then this is really important, make sure when the duck
shows up, you feathers everywhere, so it's going to be

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a mess. But from there you're going to and you'll
wonder where the candy came from. That's not really important. However,
immediately you're going to turn to your left. That's when
you're going to see a man in a tan jacket
and you're going to say, I know you from Nightvie

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and that's why I like the weather. That's when I'll
answer your question.

Speaker 1 (01:13:13):
And if it took you far too long to catch
up on the bit like it did me, you can
reach out to us on social media on Facebook and
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It is Large Neurdroun Collider. You can get that invitation
on our website, which is woefully out of date. Once again,

(01:13:34):
for shame on me. I will get it updated. And
if you want to send us an email, we've had
some recently. Thank you to the people who reached out
and asked if we were okay from the hurricane. We are.
We were very lucky. You can email us at Large
neurdron Pod at gmail dot com. We love hearing from
you and we love that you listen. Thank you for

(01:13:54):
being a part of our geeky family. And until next time.
I am Ariel watching through my fingers Casten and.

Speaker 2 (01:14:03):
I am Jonathan. We're also okay from the cloud of
chlorine gas Strickland.

Speaker 1 (01:14:09):
Oh yeah, I forgot about that one.

Speaker 2 (01:14:11):
Yeah, it's been a crazy couple of weeks.

Speaker 1 (01:14:13):
Yeah, Hey, everybody, Welcome to The Larger and Drunk Collider,
the podcast that's all about the geeky things happening in

(01:14:35):
the world around us and how very excited we are
about them. I'm Ariel Casten and with me as always
is a delightful, gracious, wonderful patient. Jonathan struct I have
I like that feels like it needs to be a
Broadway song.

Speaker 2 (01:14:52):
Yeah. Yeah, that's a reference to something that happened in
pre show conversation. And I will not answering any questions.

Speaker 1 (01:15:01):
Yeah, it's fine, it's fine. But if you're going, hey,
why are you recording this week? You said once again
you would not be recording, and you are. It's because
Hurricane Milton. We were supposed to drive down to Florida
on Wednesday, and we decided to hold off so that
we wouldn't be driving down in the middle of a hurricane,
which was the correct decision to make.

Speaker 2 (01:15:21):
And when when Ariel says we, she doesn't mean me
an Ariel. I was not going to Orlando. Ariel was
going with some friends. This was actually the rescheduled trip
to the Orlando area that now has to be rescheduled again.

Speaker 1 (01:15:38):
I mean, in the grand scheme of things, it's small
potatoes compared to you know what people have gone through.
Sure in Florida, I will say like I had on
like weather stormchasers on all day and that was I know,
you didn't for your sanity's sake, but just watching it

(01:15:59):
was insane.

Speaker 2 (01:16:00):
I mean I would. I was occasionally checking the news
and that was enough to see some of the footage
which was really concerning. I also noticed that the hurricane,
both Helene and Milton, have provided ample opportunity for people
to make use of technology to create misinformation around the hurricanes,

(01:16:24):
which is infuriating. Including I don't know if you saw
this areal, but there was some apparently it originated out
of Russia, but there was some AI generated photographs that
were supposedly showing Magic Kingdom flooded like waste high water
flooding the Magic Kingdom, and anyone who had been to

(01:16:46):
the Magic Kingdom looking at those photos could say, that's
not real, that's AI. There are too many details that
are wrong. But it was one of those attempts to
attempt to, you know, paint a picture that was not realistic.
For one thing, anyone who's a real Magic Kingdom fan
knows that if it flooded that badly, things have gone

(01:17:08):
really wrong. Because the Magic Kingdom is not on the
ground floor.

Speaker 1 (01:17:14):
Yeah, for sure. And Disney is open today. They close
for Wednesday and Thursday and they're open today Friday. That's
just I hadn't seen that. I have heard about some
of the misinformation that's been going around, just even politically
about it, which we're not going to get into because
that's not what this podcast is about.

Speaker 2 (01:17:32):
Yeah, goodness knows, I do not need my blood pressure
to go up.

Speaker 1 (01:17:35):
Yeah, but it was interesting that FEMA's like, in the
scope of natural disaster we need to do is now
also misinformation.

Speaker 2 (01:17:44):
Yeah. Yeah, Like it's not hard enough to respond to
these things at the scale that they already are. Let's
throw massive amounts of misinformation that can end up impeding help.
Let's not do that, y'all. Let's all just let's all
just agree to do our best to help where we
can and stay out of the way where we aren't

(01:18:07):
able to help. Like, I'm not shaming anyone who can't,
you know, lend help one way or another. There are
plenty of people out there who aren't in a position
to do so. But like, don't make things more difficult
for people. Not that any of our listeners do that,
I'm sure they don't. Just just in general. When I
say you, I mean whomever it is that's doing this stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:18:29):
Yeah, for sure, and also check your sources.

Speaker 2 (01:18:32):
Always a good idea.

Speaker 1 (01:18:34):
Yeah, I myself mis relayed some information this week because
I was searching it and I'm like, oh, here's the answer,
and I didn't check deep enough and I was wrong.

Speaker 2 (01:18:44):
It happens to me too, Ariel. You like I've I'm
older and supposedly had at least the opportunity to be wiser,
although I am certainly not, but I am definitely older
than Ariel, and I still fall victim to this too.
I mean, heck, I've fallen victim to it on the show, because,
as we've discussed in previous episodes, people are using fan

(01:19:08):
edits and ai and stuff to generate like fake movie trailers,
and if I'm not paying attention, I'm like, oh, I
didn't even hear that this movie was a thing, and
here's a trailer for it, and then only for Ariel
to say like, yeah, the reason you hadn't heard about
it is that's not real.

Speaker 1 (01:19:25):
I mean, we both do it, and we both hold
each other accountable. It's why it's such a great friendship.

Speaker 2 (01:19:31):
Yeah. Well, that's the thing is we known each other
long enough where occasionally we can say, hey, I'm not
saying you're stupid, but you're doing something that's kind of dumb.

Speaker 1 (01:19:41):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, speaking of dumb. If I sound a
little raspy today, it's because last night, and in a
fit of trying to get some dopamine, my husband and
I went to CC's to try their chicken and lawful pizza,
which wasn't as ridiculou as it sounds, but I did

(01:20:03):
splurge and have some Supreme pizza there as well, which
had a red sauce. So now I'm a little bit Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:20:08):
Aerial has a has a sensitivity to a whole bunch
of different foods, but among them are night shades like
tomatoes and stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:20:16):
So and you know green peppers that you get on
a Supreme pizza, Well that delicious.

Speaker 2 (01:20:22):
It does make me think that in March, assuming that
they keep with the the Taco of the month that
their Austin, Texas locations do in March, we need to
go to Torches because they have a chicken and waffles taco.
It's amazing. I get it without the bacon because I
don't eat pork, but apart from that, I get it

(01:20:45):
as is and I love it. It's called the Rosco nice.

Speaker 1 (01:20:48):
I have had a chicken and waffles taco before. Velvet
Taco sometimes has the.

Speaker 2 (01:20:53):
Okay, that's also a Texas based chain that got here
in Atlanta, so I mean no big surprise of Velvet
Taco got as well. But yeah, it's Torchies. Does we
just got a Torchies. I think I've probably talked about
this in a previous episode, but we just got a
Torchies fairly recently, and they do a Taco of the
Month and at least the last couple of times I

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went to south By Southwest, which happens in March in Austin, Texas.
The Roscoe was their their special taco and and I
fell in love. It was it was love at first bite.

Speaker 1 (01:21:26):
That that does sound No, it does sound really good.
I will say one of the things my husband and
I do is make food mistakes, and we don't always
talk about it on the show because one, I don't
know how many people are interested into I don't want
torture Jonathan. But I have also had the chicken and
waffles basket and Robin Flavor of the Month, and that

(01:21:48):
was no bueno for me.

Speaker 2 (01:21:50):
Yeah, I don't that doesn't sound like something I will say.
I have had a couple of ice cream flavors that
on when I first heard what they were, didn't appear
to me, but upon tasting them, I was like, oh, no,
this is okay, Like I think the one that it's
really not that unusual. Though at the time I felt
that it was like this ice cream came from Mars

(01:22:11):
or something. It was rosemary and olive oil.

Speaker 1 (01:22:15):
M that sounds good.

Speaker 2 (01:22:16):
It actually was quite good and it had you know,
it wasn't a savory ice cream, but it did have
savory notes, but that that just made the sweetness stand
out more.

Speaker 1 (01:22:25):
I found a recipe for a concord grape rosemary and
black pepper sorbet that I have been dying to make,
but we haven't had concord grapes in our grocery stores.
And our mutual friend Sasha has had many concord grapes
this year, and I'm very jealous.

Speaker 2 (01:22:41):
Oh that must be Are they still in Chicago Land area? Yes, okay,
so it must just be that like Chicago scooping up
all the concords. I mean, maybe you go try them
with the cotton candy grapes. Sweet it gets.

Speaker 1 (01:22:57):
Oh my god, Oh I do like cotton candy grapes.
I like gum drop and the moon drops better, but
I do like the cotton candy grapes. Yeah, we make
food mistakes. I have some beetlejuice spiced apple Fanta downstairs.
I have a pack of the Coca Cola Oreos as
well as a few cans of the Oreo Coca Cola
in my home. I still have cans of Peepsi.

Speaker 2 (01:23:19):
We need to get you the Doctor pepper baked beans.

Speaker 1 (01:23:23):
I've tried them, oh have you?

Speaker 2 (01:23:25):
Yeah? No, I just learned that those things exist this week,
so I didn't even know.

Speaker 1 (01:23:30):
I I bet if you made them fresh, they'd be
pretty good out of a can. They were not for me.
They had this chemically taste to them that I.

Speaker 2 (01:23:39):
Don't like big beans in general. Anyway, I don't know
how this became a food podcast. I was gonna say,
I'm making a chopped cheese sandwich tomorrow. That's my first
time trying to do that.

Speaker 1 (01:23:52):
I'm super envious. Yeah, I know. I used to want
to put like some weird food thing in here every week,
and they're just more weird food things that I can
find every week, or that I thought would be interesting
to people. But also, I don't want torture Jonathan Well.

Speaker 2 (01:24:06):
And you know we'd be stepping on munch Squad, the
podcast within a podcast for my brother, my brother and
me where Justin McElroy brings various brand eating pr announcements
into the story.

Speaker 1 (01:24:20):
I was trying to do things that like tied into
other geek stuff like Nicholas Cage related food sham again.

Speaker 2 (01:24:27):
Right, yeah, yeah, you find out like I mean, like
it's always fun whenever whenever a restaurant, especially like a
very like fast food or fast casual restaurant does like
a tie in with a movie release, you know, like
I think about Denny's doing it all the time. That
kind of stuff. Those are fun to talk about too,
just because sometimes the connection is so tenuous that it's

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just laughable or the name is just terrible.

Speaker 1 (01:24:53):
Yeah, Denny's does it, I hop does it. Heck, krispy
Kreme has some Ghostbuster donuts right now, which are uh unimpressive.

Speaker 2 (01:25:04):
I mean for Krispy Kreme, you just need to go
when the light is on and get yourself a glazed
That's it, That's what I mean.

Speaker 1 (01:25:10):
But that's just eating cotton candy like it dissolves in
your mouth so fast.

Speaker 2 (01:25:14):
That's so good. I like them anymore so.

Speaker 1 (01:25:19):
I like their chocolate glazed better because it gives it
a little more substance while still retaining the crispy kreamness.

Speaker 2 (01:25:25):
Actually I prefer their chocolate glaze too, It's just that
whenever I got them hot, it was always just the
plain glazed ones.

Speaker 1 (01:25:31):
Yeah. Yeah, I have one down the road. I never
seem to be there when I have the capacity to
eat a hot, fresh doughnut and the sign is on,
like a lot of times, I'll be going. It's in
the same complex, like shopping complex is one of my
favorite Mexican restaurants, So I'll get there and I'll be like,
but I'm about to have Mexican and they have a
trisleche cake of the day.

Speaker 2 (01:25:50):
So and while I've tempted to just see how long
we can go talking about food before we finally turn
into geek stuff, I think I am going to segue
us at least to talk about the things that we
have seen or whatever.

Speaker 1 (01:26:08):
That's fine. I'm still totally going to talk about food
in this segment.

Speaker 2 (01:26:11):
So it's fine, all right, awesome, awesome. Do you want
me to go first, or do you want to go first.

Speaker 1 (01:26:17):
I'll go first because there's not really much new that
I'm watching. I watched the latest episode of Agatha, which
I thought was better than the previous episode, but still
not as good as the first couple few. I'm watching
Vox Makta and that's good. They're sexy scenes. We're more

(01:26:37):
sexy than I anticipated, which, if you know me, I
can tend to be a little bit like, oh, I
can't watch this, so but it was fine, but it
just surprised me. But it's good. I'm enjoying season three.
I don't want to give spoilers, but they are very
good at There are really cool Easter eggs, and they're
really good at setting up cinematically the different places that

(01:26:58):
they go. It's very good. I'm still watching Wrexham and
then tonight I'm gonna watch the first episode of Gastronauts
on Dropout TV. So that's fun and exciting where they
get chefs and they give them bad challenges.

Speaker 2 (01:27:11):
Oh, I didn't. I don't think I've seen the promos
for this, so I didn't even know this was a thing.

Speaker 1 (01:27:17):
I So I love food shows like Cut Through a
Kitchen or there's a new one called The Last Bite
that Titus Burgess hosts. Yeah, where they for the last
bite or I think it's called the last Bite. It's
like he's a hotel bell hopping there on all in
this hotel and every every chef brings like a chest

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of ingredients and then they get different food challenges like
I want to beef Wellington, or I want Alfredo, or
I want this or that, but they can only use
the ingredients that they have in their chest. And I
believe that those ingredients. I haven't watched much of it.
Those ingredients dwindle down as the competition goes on because
they're using them, but the challenges are still challenging. So

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in like the trailer, you see someone go like, I've
just used my last egg.

Speaker 2 (01:28:06):
So it's one of those things where they have to
they have to kind of judge how how much they
use per dish, and maybe they hold something back because
they might need it later, but it might also impact
the quality of the dish they're currently preparing.

Speaker 1 (01:28:21):
Yes, but like if someone asks for fish and chips
and nobody has potatoes, that's also now you have to
come up with something else to make chips out of.
So it's I love food stuff like that. Gastronauts is
a dropout show where it's a host of comedians come
up with challenges for the for the chefs that are competing,

(01:28:42):
and all of the comedians love this show. According to
the trailer, they think it's amazing some of the some
of the challenges are like hornist. Like in the trailer,
Grant O'Brien's like, I just want you to make the
horniest food, nothing more than that. No, I want to
see what they do with it.

Speaker 2 (01:28:58):
Of course Grant O'Brien asked for that.

Speaker 1 (01:29:00):
Yeah, so you know, I like food challenges where they
try to make something good. I say that I also
watch role for sandwich and ordinary sausage, which are horrendous
and horrifying. But generally, when I watch like a food
competition show, I like to see people overcome a challenge

(01:29:22):
to make something amazing and beautiful and tasty. And I
know that several of these dishes, while very tasty, will
be very visually unappealing, and so I'm less excited for that,
but I'm gonna watch it.

Speaker 2 (01:29:34):
Yeah. I think the only cooking like competition show I
ever really got into was Iron Chef, both the original
version and the American version. Yeah, those I really enjoyed
both of those because I thought it was always fascinating
to see how chefs could improvise around the specific ingredient.

(01:29:55):
I always found that really really neat. But that was
the only one I ever watched. I think a lot
of them. I don't like watching because I want unless
someone's being a real jerk face, I want everyone to win. Yeah,
and so it's hard to watch because I'm like, I
don't want anyone to lose. I want them all to
do great, and so inherently that's a problem with competition

(01:30:19):
shows for me, and I get it. That's a me problem,
not a show problem.

Speaker 1 (01:30:24):
I mean, I totally get it. If it's something like
nailed It, I don't feel too bad because everybody knows
going in it's just for the fun. But yeah, like
Great British break Bakeoff or things like that, I definitely
am like I do root for people, and I feel
sad when they leave because they're all pouring their heart
and soul into the things that they make. The other thing,
I don't know if this counts as watching. I guess
it is because it's been on YouTube mainly. Is I've

(01:30:47):
been reindulging in Epic the Musical, which is the musical
based on the Odyssey that a bunch of TikTok creators
made a couple of years ago, which is where I
got to my misinformation, because I was like, is there
a staged version of this? And Google search said, yes,
there is, it comes out in December, But upon further looking,

(01:31:12):
there aren't stage staged viewable versions. It's just the concept
album that you can watch on various streaming as far
as I can tell. But it's great. It's great music,
and Suffering is living rent free in my head right now,
so I'll.

Speaker 2 (01:31:30):
Have to check that out. Like for some reason, I'm
sure I did hear about this, but it's not ringing
any bells. But y'all, my bell got rung so hard
this year that there's stuff that I definitely knew about
that is just not there anymore. But I need to
check this out. I'm curious about like who wrote the

(01:31:53):
music and the book and all that kind of stuff,
So I'll have to check it out after the show
is over.

Speaker 1 (01:31:59):
Yeah, I'll make sure to share some links and some
fun facts.

Speaker 2 (01:32:02):
That's awesome. I also watched Agatha all along. I also
enjoyed the most recent episode. The reveal at the end
of that episode is interesting but leaves me with more
questions than answers, which is that's kind of the way
WandaVision went too, right, Like every time WandaVision would answer
one question, it would raise like three more, and Agatha

(01:32:24):
is kind of doing that now. I don't want to
give any spoilers because that show, that episode did just
come out this week and people may not have had
a chance to watch it yet, but there's something that
happens at the end that made me go, like, Okay,
if they're going where I think they're going, they have
a lot of explaining to do that. I'm not sure

(01:32:44):
they're going to be able to manage in a way
that I'm going to find satisfying, but I'm willing to
give them the benefit of the doubt for now.

Speaker 1 (01:32:51):
I'm curious to hear where you think they're going, but
I guess we'll have to talk about that offline.

Speaker 2 (01:32:56):
Well, if you don't want to hear spoilers, skip a
head and when you hear me talking about either Salem's
laut or the penguin, you know you're okay. But so
at the end, of the most recent episode of Agatha
All Along, we finally see Teen kind of come into

(01:33:17):
Teen's powers and manifest a sort of headdress on his
head which looks like the Wickan headdress. Now, the character
of Wickan in the comics is one of Wanda Maximov's sons,
kind of like the reincarnated son of Wanda Maximov, but

(01:33:42):
it does there's no explanation for how that could possibly
be in this universe because he doesn't exist in the
MCU version of Earth. That's the whole point with Doctor
Strage in the Multiverse of Madness. If he did exist,
Wanda Wooden had done gone crazy and gone into the

(01:34:04):
multiverse trying to find a version of her kids so
that she could be their mom again. So that's a
real issue, like where did this character come from? Or
is it a totally different character who's essentially assuming the
role of Wickan but doesn't share the same history as

(01:34:25):
the character in the comic books. So that's that's one
of the big questions. The other big question I have
is where's Rio at the end of that episode, because
she's gone missing, and that's Aubrey Plaza's character. She's just
not there, and I'm like, what is she up to? Okay,
done with the spoilers for Agatha all along? And you know,

(01:34:46):
I could also it could be that my assumptions are
completely incorrect, so it's not really a spoiler, it's more speculation.

Speaker 1 (01:34:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:34:53):
I watched the new not really that new, but newly
released of Salem's Lot that went straight to streaming. This
movie was supposed to come out years ago but has
sat on shelves for like two years. It's not good.
It's not a good adaptation. I'm also listening to the

(01:35:18):
audiobook of Salem's Lot. I have been for a while,
like when I take my dog on walks, I listen
to it. And the stuff they skipped over in order
to hit kind of the action points they wanted to
for the movie. It's all the it's all the character
building and all the background, like they had to skip

(01:35:39):
all of it just to get to more vampire stuff.
And I'm like, wow, Yeah, it makes the whole movie
feel rushed, Like it goes from one character in town
being turned into a vampire to suddenly there are thirty
vampires and then there's everyone is a vampire except for
these five people. That's it, Like, that's how fast it happens,
and that's like within a couple of scenes as the

(01:36:00):
movie goes on, and I was just like, this is
so unsatisfying because you're not given enough time to get
to know any of these characters. Some characters who are
really important in the book are only mentioned by name
and you don't even get a good look at their face. Like,
I get it, Stephen King makes a lot of characters
in his books. Some might argue too many characters, kind

(01:36:24):
of like George R. R. Martin, but like, it's so
weird to have these characters who played an important part
in the story in the novel get a name drop
in the film, but you don't even really get to
see them. It's kind of crazy. So I cannot recommend
Salem's Lot. I did not like it. Maybe if you
had never read the book and you just want a

(01:36:45):
vampire story, it might be satisfying. I can't separate myself
from the book, and I don't even I'm not even
a huge fan of the book. Like I'm not like
a diehard Stephen King fan. I like a couple of
his books, but I'm not like a a crazed fan
or anything. And Salem'slood is not my favorite of the
books I have ready.

Speaker 1 (01:37:08):
No I had like that could be possible. I didn't
read Dark Tower. I was just familiar with it because
of my friend group who loved it, and the movie
was okay, it was passable, but it wasn't great and
they all hated it. That could be the same case
for Salem's Lot. But all of the reviews I have
heard about it have also been negative beyond yours.

Speaker 2 (01:37:28):
So it's yeah, it feels pretty clunky. I understand that
there was quite a bit that was left cut out
of the film. Whether that was the director or the studio,
I don't know, but I imagine that that stuff had
to have at least helped a little bit as far
as like fleshing characters out and stuff. I don't know

(01:37:50):
that it would have made the movie any better though.
I also watched the third episode, well part of the
third episode of The Penguin. I didn't finish it. I
really need to go back and in a shit, but
it was one of those where the tension was being
turned up real high, and I was not in a
good mental space to be able to watch that and

(01:38:10):
handle it. It's kind of like Breaking Bad. Like there
were times where I'd watch Breaking Bad and I would
have to pause the episode, walk away and come back
to it in order to be able to deal with it,
because that's how delicate my psyche is. Now anyway, I'm
still enjoying it, still enjoying the performances. Hate that version
of the Penguin, but everything else, Like if I divorce

(01:38:31):
it from being the Penguin, it's great. Like if I'm
not thinking of it as Gotham and I'm not thinking
of him as the Penguin, I'm really enjoying it.

Speaker 1 (01:38:39):
I've been trying to talk Tony into watching that, but
he didn't like me. Did not enjoy the Batman. He
was like, there was no tension. There was If you
want to play it like a noir, you need to
build the tension and suspense, and they did not do that.
It was so slow. I don't know, I'm unsatisfying.

Speaker 2 (01:38:58):
I didn't feel I didn't feel like there were problems
with tension so much. But then you know, I actually
enjoy the Riddler component to the Batman. I just didn't
like the fact that the Batman was a terrible detective.

Speaker 1 (01:39:11):
He was he never he never won the entire movie.
He didn't win.

Speaker 2 (01:39:16):
No, even he doesn't like he doesn't even one of
the riddles he doesn't solve Alfred solves it.

Speaker 1 (01:39:22):
He doesn't solve a ding dang thing.

Speaker 2 (01:39:25):
And also he figures out that everything's going to blow
up about five seconds before it does, and like.

Speaker 1 (01:39:33):
The moments that should have been really scary or tense
or whatever went on so long that I'm like, Okay,
just do it, just do it. Just be done with
this scene already. And I like Noir, I don't mind
a slow pace, but this was unbearable.

Speaker 2 (01:39:49):
Oh no, I guess I just had a different reaction,
Like your reaction is totally legitimate, obviously, but it was
just a I don't think I disliked the Batman as
much as you guys did. I'm not a fan of it,
but I don't think I had as strong a negative
response to it anyway. But that's what I've seen. I

(01:40:12):
want to say there was something else, but it is
escaping me now. If it comes back to me before
the end of the episode, I'll bring it up, but
I can't think of what it might be at this point,
so I guess I'm done.

Speaker 1 (01:40:27):
Awesome, Well, that leads us to I look forward to
talking about what we watched after Halloween, because I'm currently
trying to figure out what my Halloween night movie I'm
going to watch while kids come trick retreat is. But
until then, I.

Speaker 2 (01:40:44):
Know I'm going to watch Long Legs tomorrow finally, so
I'm looking forward to that.

Speaker 1 (01:40:49):
Yeah, I look forward to your review. That's definitely what
I could not watch. But but let's talk about I
have no good segue. Let's talk about our thirty seconds
or less. Now, I guess it's time for that.

Speaker 2 (01:41:04):
Okay, I guess, so, I guess. I guess I'll go first,
all right, for proof that the word of mouth is
still a powerful thing. The negative reaction to Joker poly
Adieux appears to have contributed to a Tepe box office
of just under thirty eight million dollars. Domestically, reaction has
been largely lack luster for the film, which I now

(01:41:27):
actually kind of want to see because I've read spoilers
about what happens and now I'm intrigued. I'm not sure
that I'll walk away liking the movie if I see it,
but I'm more interested now than I was just from
the movie trailers.

Speaker 1 (01:41:42):
Yeah, I also read spoilers but had the opposite reaction.
But that's cool. I look forward to your review when
you watch it. Something that I will never watch and
I do not understand is apparently Michael Bay is making
a skibbety toilet series, and I I don't understand. It's

(01:42:07):
a Jenn Alpha thing. It's like a brain rot video
that starts with a head coming out of a toilet
singing a song. Apparently the creator had nightmares like that
and it was his way of confronting it. But then
it blew up, and so now there's this whole like
battle between people with like video camera and television and
monitor heads fighting these toilet head people. And I just

(01:42:28):
don't I don't want to see Michael Bay is like
King of explosions. I don't want to see that many
toilets explode. But Adam Goodman, who's the former president of Paramount,
said that it could be the next Transformers. What what

(01:42:48):
that was more than thirty seconds? I'm sorry, Are we.

Speaker 2 (01:42:51):
Sure that none of that is like misinformation or a
fever dream, because it's hard to believe.

Speaker 1 (01:42:58):
It could, but I found it on Forbes.

Speaker 2 (01:43:02):
So yeah, that's usually a fairly reputable news source. All right, Well,
moving on the body swapping film, It's What's Inside has
a companion game that you can play with up to
five of your friends. The game captures your likeness and voice,
and then through a series of questions and prompts, the
players try to figure out who has switched with whom.

(01:43:24):
According to Collider, the game deletes all user data at
the game's conclusions, so you don't have to worry about
a digital copy of yourself floating around out there. But
if you do want to play, you better do it
fast because it ends on October fourteenth.

Speaker 1 (01:43:37):
Interesting if you've been Jones and for more Black Panther
Wakanda stuff, here in luck because Disney Plus is working
on a new animated series. It's really going to focus
on a lot of like the history and law of
Wakanda itself. That's cool. I like what if an X
Men ninety seven? So and I like Black Panther, So

(01:43:59):
I am excited. Cool.

Speaker 2 (01:44:02):
Hollywood Reporter notes that Rebel Ridges Aaron Pierre will be
playing the part of John Stewart in the upcoming Lanterns series,
so he'll be a younger member of the lantern core
and Kyle Chandler's Hal Jordan character will be showing him
the ropes as the two Space Cops investigative murder, so
maybe we should call the series True Space Detective.

Speaker 1 (01:44:25):
I am very much for Kyle Chandler playing how Jordan.
I think that's a great casting choice. It's not who
what I have picked for John Stewart, but they're going
for a younger version, so who I would have picked
doesn't matter. Henry cavill is apparently going to be in
Amazon MGM Studios Voltron, which they want a bid to

(01:44:45):
do back in twenty twenty two and I completely forgot about.
But it's still happening. Don't know what he's going to
be doing in it, but it's being directed by Ross
and Marshall Thurber.

Speaker 2 (01:44:57):
I think he's going to play the left leg, not
the not the pilot. He will actually be dressed up
as the left leg of Voltron.

Speaker 1 (01:45:06):
Will he will he can toort his body into like
an animal when it's not.

Speaker 2 (01:45:10):
No, he'll just be wearing like a like a cardboard
lion outfit and he'll he'll just be He'll just be
the left leg. That's it.

Speaker 1 (01:45:18):
I'm for it.

Speaker 2 (01:45:20):
Okay, Well, casting has begun in a so far unnamed
spin off of The Big Bang Theory. After Young Sheldon
wrapped up. I'm guessing executives were scrambling to find a
way to tap into the appeal of the show that
a lot of people loved and I didn't anyway. Kevin Susman,
who played comic book store owner Stuart, will be joined
by Brian Posine and Lauren Lapptis, both of whom played

(01:45:42):
recurring supporting roles on Big Bang Theory.

Speaker 1 (01:45:46):
I love those I didn't like Big Bank Theory either.
I like those actors.

Speaker 2 (01:45:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:45:50):
Oh, I love Brian Pozane and I love Lauren Lapis.
Uh uh. Broadway and Deadpool and X Men fans rejoice.
Huge Jackman has set a twelve show monthly concert series
at Radio City Music Hall, starting in January twenty twenty five,
and playing also in April, May, June, July and August

(01:46:10):
on select weekends. It's going to kind of span his
career of Broadway and musical and stuff like that. He
announced it on a video on social media with Ryan Reynolds.
That is absolutely delightful. You should look at ut well.

Speaker 2 (01:46:28):
I have some bad news for anyone who became a
big fan of Netflix's series Chaos, in which Jeff goldblooms
Zeus is going through a mid eternal life crisis in
a modern world setting in which the Olympic Gods are
very much a thing. Netflix has canceled the series after
just one season. I did try to watch this show,
and I thought the first episode was interesting, but then

(01:46:49):
I have to admit I didn't stick with it, So
I guess I'm part of the problem.

Speaker 1 (01:46:54):
Were me too? Okay, Scrubs might be getting a vile
Apparently they're just trying to negotiate a contract with Disney,
who owns the brand now, and I guess that the
director is or TV creator is with Warner Brothers, so
they got to figure that out. If it comes to fruition,

(01:47:16):
which it should be, it's Bill Lawrence is saying is
very close. It will be kind of a reboot and
also kind of a continuation. So it sounds like Saved
by the Bell New Class, where you're gonna have all
the new new hospital staff with the old staff popping
in every now and.

Speaker 2 (01:47:32):
Then, or if you prefer the new version of night.

Speaker 1 (01:47:37):
Court maybe because that could be true.

Speaker 2 (01:47:42):
Because John Learracat came back, but everybody else anyway that's true.
To boost a car or to not boost a car.
That is the question that's being asked by some documentarians
who followed a couple of GTA players who are actors
determined to mount up production of Shakespeare's ham within the
world of Grand Theft Auto Online. This documentary is called

(01:48:05):
Grand Theft Hamlet and it covers an ambitious attempt the
two actors made to perform Hamlet with n GTA online
during the COVID nineteen outbreak. And if you want to
see it, you'll need to wait until twenty twenty five
to get thee to a cinema.

Speaker 1 (01:48:20):
I think that's pretty cool, and it'll be the first
thing from Grand Theft Auto I've watched Netflix is It
is said that Netflix is developing a Pride and Prejudice series.
It is being written by Dolly Alderton, who wrote All
Everything I Know about Love, and it's being done by

(01:48:42):
the producer for Gentleman Jack. That sounds like a pretty
good team to work on some Pride and Prejudice. I
wonder if they'll stick true to the source material or
they will give it a news twist.

Speaker 2 (01:48:57):
Okay, so that's it for the thirty seconds or less.
I did want to say so Lauren Lapkis. She was
in a web video series that I really enjoyed, along
with Oh, what's his name? He played Jean Ralpheo in
Parks and rec Oh. Ben Schwartz.

Speaker 1 (01:49:17):
Ben Schwartz, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:49:18):
Okay, He and Lauren Lapkis were in a web video
series called The Earliest Show where they played morning show hosts.
And the gag is that in the very first episode,
Ben Schwartz is planning on proposing to his girlfriend, but

(01:49:38):
it doesn't go well and she breaks up with him.
And then every episode after that or starting with that one,
is the Stages of Grief, where each episode is embodying
one of the stages of grief, and that's completely controlling
how Ben Schwartz's character behaves. The show was largely improvised.

(01:50:00):
It is ridiculous and makes me laugh so hard, and
like the outtakes. The outtakes are just as long as
the episodes they launched, so like, you can watch the
whole series and then another series worth of outtakes and
it's very entertaining.

Speaker 1 (01:50:18):
I'll have to check that out. I really like Ben
Schwartz's improv I also quite enjoyed Middle Ditch and Schwartz,
which was there's Ben Schwartz's.

Speaker 2 (01:50:25):
And yeah, I got to see them do that live.

Speaker 1 (01:50:28):
Oh, very cool.

Speaker 2 (01:50:30):
They came down to Dad's garage theater several years ago now,
but they performed at Dad's garage and that was great.

Speaker 1 (01:50:37):
That does sound amazing. I'm sad I missed it.

Speaker 2 (01:50:39):
Yeah, it was if I hadn't known at the time.
But back then I didn't even know who I had
knew who Schwartz was because I had seen him on
parks and rec but I didn't know Middle Ditch even
though I had seen Middle Ditch in stuff. It just
he was just that guy, right, Like, I didn't know
who he was yet.

Speaker 1 (01:50:57):
Man, I aspired to be that guy in that thing.

Speaker 2 (01:50:59):
Yeah. No, it's a great thing to be. But like, yeah,
because wasn't he Was he in Silicon Valley or Okay,
I had not watched that series at that point when
I saw them perform live on stage, so I was
unaware of his talent, which is considerable and the two

(01:51:20):
of them together are fantastic.

Speaker 1 (01:51:23):
That is delightful.

Speaker 2 (01:51:25):
Well, we've got some trailers and stuff to talk about,
not as many this this week, but that doesn't mean
we won't yammer on endlessly about them and possibly work
food into them.

Speaker 1 (01:51:37):
I haven't figured out how to do that yet, but
now I've got to figure it out for every.

Speaker 2 (01:51:44):
Okay, so the first one is we saw a trailer
for a movie called Levels. I'll help you out here.
Let's say that multi tiered cake boom. We've put it
in there, that multi tiered cake has levels to it.
We watched the trailer for a movie called Levels. Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:52:01):
End of story.

Speaker 2 (01:52:02):
I think I think I would. I think I would
describe Levels as uh, the Matrix mixed with Free Guy,
but with no humor.

Speaker 1 (01:52:13):
Yeah, it's it's done by the people who did Continuum.
But even even Collider dot com compares it to the Matrix.

Speaker 2 (01:52:21):
It is.

Speaker 1 (01:52:21):
It is very similar. It's about a guy who loses
his wife I don't remember, uh, and then goes through
reality is not what he thinks. It's computer generated. Yeah,
it seems like.

Speaker 2 (01:52:36):
Well it kind of falls into that that philosophical question
of what if we lived in a computer simulation? And uh, like,
if you go down that rabbit hole, it gets pretty
freaky pretty fast, because it like the the general answer is,
if it is possible that we're living in a computer simulation.
We definitely are, although I.

Speaker 1 (01:53:01):
Just immediately became interested in looking that up and then
immediately disinterested.

Speaker 2 (01:53:07):
So thank you, You're welcome. Yeah, well, yeah, I won't
go into the whole thing. I've talked about it on
other podcasts before, and honestly, I just I am a
very pragmatic person, and at a level where you could say,
does this actually matter if it's a simulation or not
if it seems real to us, I'm like, no, it doesn't,
it doesn't matter at all. So anyway, Levels looks like

(01:53:30):
it's playing with that kind of idea, but very similar
to The Matrix, where Neo is awakened to the fact
that what he thinks of as reality is in fact
a construct, a computer simulation, and that he is then
awakened in order to Initially it sounds like save humanity,
but then by the time you get to the Matrix too,

(01:53:51):
it's just to keep one little bit of humanity safe.
I hate the Matrix movies. I love the first one.
I hate the rest of them, although I kind of
like the fourth one. Anyway, that's neither here nor there.
Levels looks okay, I don't know. There was nothing about
this trailer that really got my interest.

Speaker 1 (01:54:14):
Yeah, nothing really cut Well, that's a lie. I was
interested when I thought it was a matrix entry that
had nothing to do with Neo and Morpheus and Trinity.
But then it's not.

Speaker 2 (01:54:25):
So yeah, now your mileage may vary. I recommend you
check out the trailer for levels to decide whether or
not it appeals to you, because just because it didn't
stir our cups of tea or coffee or whatever doesn't
mean that it won't give yours a word. So check
it out.

Speaker 1 (01:54:47):
That is that is some bold imagery you have. You
have laid down, Jonathan.

Speaker 2 (01:54:52):
I have a cup of tea right here.

Speaker 1 (01:54:55):
Next, we're going to talk about a video game. We
don't often do that, but we're in it today because
Secret Door, which is someone who came from Blizzard, has
released a look at a new game called sunder Folk,
which is like D and D or gloom Haven, but

(01:55:17):
you can play with your friends on your phone, and
that looks pretty cool to me.

Speaker 2 (01:55:21):
Yeah, it looks like it's kind of like almost a
turn based strategy game where each player is controlling a character,
up to four playing at a time, going through and competing,
you know, combating against enemies and using whatever spoils of
war you get to upgrade your town back home, it

(01:55:43):
looks pretty rudimentary for you know. They talk about how
they were inspired by tabletop games and the camaraderie you
get when you play cooperatively with other people at the
same space, and I do find that really appealing, like
that's why I like tabletop games. But at the same time,
this maybe there's more to it, but it just looks

(01:56:06):
to me like a pretty pretty straightforward combat strategy tactics game.
And if you only have control over one character a
tactic strategy game and you're paired with a bunch of dufices,
that's going to be a very frustrating gameplaying experience where
you're like, no, I need you to flank, flank, for

(01:56:27):
the good sake, just flank.

Speaker 1 (01:56:31):
I do understand that I know a bunch of my
friends like gloom Haven, and I think to be able
to play that in like on one screen and on
phones instead of on different laptops via all a land Party,
Land Party would be fun. I do think that the
character design is really cute.

Speaker 2 (01:56:52):
Yeah, you just want to be a giant polar bear
that can wreck shop.

Speaker 1 (01:56:56):
I do want to be a Barbarian born. I don't
know if that is actually the class of the polar.

Speaker 2 (01:57:04):
Bear, but.

Speaker 1 (01:57:08):
Bigger the new I like the new too, and the back.

Speaker 2 (01:57:12):
The character design does look cute. I think maybe I
just need to wait for more information about this game
before I make a judgment. I mean, I also don't
have a lot of time to play games, so I'm
the guy who plays, like who buys a title and
plays it forever and then maybe eventually buys another game

(01:57:33):
title sometime down the road. I just went back to
playing Dave the Diver. I haven't touched that game in
a year, and I started playing that again, started over
from scratch, like not continuing my game because there's DLC,
but it had been so long since I had played
I'm like, I don't remember any of this. I'm going
to start over. So I've done that. And meanwhile, all
these incredible games keep coming out that I just haven't touched.

Speaker 1 (01:57:57):
I still haven't even played a balder Skate. I need
ad I.

Speaker 2 (01:58:01):
Need to finish that. Oh my gosh, oh I should
have finished it by now. It's a great it's a
great game.

Speaker 1 (01:58:08):
It's a game. So there's no shuta it's.

Speaker 2 (01:58:11):
Just well, yeah, but like it's it. There is part
of me that wants to know the conclusion of that story.
Like I have actually managed to go without looking at
any videos or reading any articles or anything about how
that story evolves over time. And I'm in the middle
of like Act two, So it took forever for me,

(01:58:34):
Like I think. I think I was on my third
attempt of playing the game where I finally got through
Act one. Part of that was just that I kept
picking classes that I thought would be interesting, and then
I would hit a point where I'm like, Okay, the
power level of my enemies is so high and my
character is not optimized for a combat that I'm getting

(01:58:57):
my butt handed to me. So that's when I decided
I couldn't play a Bard anymore.

Speaker 1 (01:59:02):
Yeah, yeah, I remember you talking about that. Well, I
am sorry. I gave added another thing accidentally to your
list of stuff to do.

Speaker 2 (01:59:12):
Yeah, it's fine, I'll get to it after New Girl.

Speaker 1 (01:59:15):
After New Girl, and maybe after Nautilus. Actually, I don't know.
I don't know your opinion on this shiny new edition
that was at Disney Plus and is now on coming
to Amazon.

Speaker 2 (01:59:26):
Yeah, it's inspired by the works of Jules Verne, and
it is following your typical story about the Nautilus, as
in the submarine that's in twenty thousand leagues under the
sea and Captain Nemo, who is the leader in this
case of some it looks like some people revolting from

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their kind of occupied territory. So it's a story about
about acting out against authoritarian forces and kind of like
asserting your freedom and kind of piracy on the high
seas using a submersible. It looks kind of.

Speaker 1 (02:00:08):
Neat, it does. It gives me very like Indiana Jones vibes,
or like a high quality sci fi show.

Speaker 2 (02:00:20):
Yeah, it makes me think of like what if Like
I don't think it looks as Quippi, It doesn't look
as quippy, but it makes me think of what if
firefly but under the ocean.

Speaker 1 (02:00:31):
Yeah, yeah, I think it looks good. It does look
when I said it looks shiny. It's there's this quality
that things like Stargate have, and certain sci fi shows
or Amazon shows where it's set in a time period
and all the people look too Hollywood pretty, or all
of the effects look too Hollywood pretty, or they sound

(02:00:51):
too like, they sound too modern, and it slightly there's
a dissonance in my brain.

Speaker 2 (02:00:57):
Yeah, it takes you out of it.

Speaker 1 (02:00:59):
Yeah, and like all of these actors seem perfectly fine
and to fit into the setting just fine. Aesthetically, it's beautiful,
but it does have that slightly Hollywood vibe to me.
But that could be because it was originally being developed
for Disney, similar to the way, uh, Willow kind of

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had this modern but Willow purposely had a modern vibe to.

Speaker 2 (02:01:23):
It, so I wouldn't know.

Speaker 1 (02:01:25):
I never watched it, and now I can't. You didn't
watch it, no, I.

Speaker 2 (02:01:31):
Just assumed it was always going to be there.

Speaker 1 (02:01:33):
Oh man, well maybe maybe maybe it will come back
out at some point and you'll be about.

Speaker 2 (02:01:40):
That'd be nice, like I find it. It's it's it's
so infuriating to think we live at an age where
we are simultaneously capable of accessing more media than we
ever have in the history of mankind, and at the
same time, we're producing more ephemeral series that just disappear

(02:02:01):
after whatever platform decides to stop carrying them.

Speaker 1 (02:02:05):
This is why I still have DVDs and Blu rays
more Blu rays now, like I have a good mix
because like, yeah, there are some things that I want
to own, because there are days where I'm like, I
really want to watch this and now I can't. Yeah,
I don't know if I don't know if Nautilus will
be one of those, but I hope so. You know, actually,

(02:02:26):
more than like a shiny sci fi series, it kind
of reminds me of like The Mummy or Brendan Fraser's
Journey to the Center of the Earth or something like that.

Speaker 2 (02:02:34):
Yeah, I can see that. It looks like it's sort
of a like not quite big budget, somewhere in the
mid budget range where it's definitely it doesn't look cheap,
but it also, like you said, it has kind of
an artificial quality to it that it could easily pull
you out if you're not you know, if you if

(02:02:55):
you pay him enough attention to it, if you're able
to switch your brain off and watch it, I'm sure
that it wouldn't be as big an issue other than
to think, like, gosh, I wish I too lived in
this time where everybody was hot.

Speaker 1 (02:03:08):
I mean, we do live in a time where everybody's
That's not true, No, everybody's hot to somebody.

Speaker 2 (02:03:15):
I struggle. I have a lot of bad hair days.

Speaker 1 (02:03:20):
I will be watching it when it comes out. It
comes out October twenty fifth. I don't know if I
will watch it that soon. This month is kind of crazy,
but I am definitely going to give it a try.

Speaker 2 (02:03:30):
Well, are you going to give the fifth, and I
think final season of Lower Decks a try?

Speaker 1 (02:03:38):
I have to go back and give the first four
seasons a try again.

Speaker 2 (02:03:42):
First, I did watch Lower Decks, though, didn't you.

Speaker 1 (02:03:45):
I watched like half of the first season. It was
a few years ago, and I mainly streamlined it while
I was building a dress for a for a show
at dragon Con that I was in, So admittedly I
was a little distracted and the first episode didn't super
drive with me. But I've been told that I should

(02:04:06):
give it a second try, and so I will.

Speaker 2 (02:04:09):
Yeah. This is this is the animated series uh and
set in the Star Trek universe. But is is overtly
a comedy.

Speaker 1 (02:04:18):
Yeah? Yeah, And this trailer has a lot more of that,
and it has some Voyager tie ins at the end
of the trailer which are delightful. I don't want to
spoil it if you haven't watched the trail.

Speaker 2 (02:04:30):
They might have also had an enterprise reference. If I'm
not mistaken. I believe so, because there was a bit
where I think they referenced the Vulcan woman in enterprise
because of the tendency that the showrunners had of making
her strip down to her underwear to go through the
the whatever process it was whenever they had to leave

(02:04:52):
or come back to the ship.

Speaker 1 (02:04:54):
Yeah. Yeah, so they're pulling out all of the referential stops.
It looks I mean, it looks, it's cute, it looks
lower DEXI. I can see objectively how how it could
be a really impressive final season. I don't know firsthand,
because I have to go back and watch the series.

Speaker 2 (02:05:12):
Well, next up, we got a trailer for a series
that's based off a story that's been told several times
before the Day of the Jackal. Like I said, there
are film versions of the Day of the Jackal, but
the story is about an assassin who is known as
the Jackal, and the series is going to kind of

(02:05:35):
feature a law enforcement agent who has a particular desire
to see the Jackal brought to justice and pursuing him.
And yeah, so the trailer kind of sets all that up,
where we get a little bit of Mission Impossible esque,
like weird Mask stuff and sniper action. What did you

(02:06:01):
think of the trailer?

Speaker 1 (02:06:03):
I originally, well, I didn't know it was based off
a book. I've never read the book. And it looked good.
I mean it good, look good. It looks like a spy,
like if James Bond weren't a good guy, kind of
a good guy. But then I was like, how is

(02:06:24):
this geeky? But then I figured out how because Eddie
Redmain is in it, who has done many geeky things,
and Lashawna Lynch isn't it and she was one of
the superheroes in the Marvels.

Speaker 2 (02:06:39):
Well, and just that again, like this is one of
those where if you're a fan of cinema, you may
have seen like the film adaptation of the Day of
the Jackal, and it's one of those things that kind
of jumped out at me as something potentially interested interesting
to film geeks. Although that's a tricky right, because if

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you're a big fan of something, it's rare that you're
jonesing for a remake.

Speaker 1 (02:07:08):
Yeah. Well, and I think that's very valid, and that's
very true. I just hadn't been aware that it was
a remake of something. But it does look good. I
like action I like mystery, I like intrigue. So it
looks it looks very well done. It looks like it
would be an enjoyable watch.

Speaker 2 (02:07:26):
Yeah, I think it looks like I might give the
first episode a try, just to see. I'm not the
biggest fan of Redmain, but I mean, I mean, I'll
be glad to at least give the episode a shot.

Speaker 1 (02:07:40):
I understand, I understand. We also got a first look
from Iwana too, and I'm gonna I'm gonna say here
that watching the essentially a trailer, right.

Speaker 2 (02:07:58):
Yeah, it wasn't like it was one continuous sequence.

Speaker 1 (02:08:02):
Yeah, it looked a lot like the previous trailer or
teaser that they had dropped. For the first half of it,
I'm like, I've already seen this, and it wasn't until
the second half that they started introducing some new elements.

Speaker 2 (02:08:15):
Yeah. I felt the same way because I was like, oh,
it's titled first Look, maybe this will be like a
complete scene from the upcoming film, But no, it's not.
It is like a compilation of different things, like a trailer.
It made me think a couple things. The first was
that all children in Disney films sound like they have

(02:08:37):
the same voice, like Moana's little sister. When Mohana's little
sister talks, I'm like, that sounds like one of the
little kids from in Conto, right, Like, I'm just like,
I get that, it's not it cannot be the same person.
I understand that because these things must have been recorded
ages apart.

Speaker 1 (02:08:54):
But it sounds just like the adults. I mean, if
you look at she's one of them. But also shoot,
Laura Bailey, Laura, I mean Laura Bailey, e g. Daily,
Nancy Cartwright. They're all adults who play kids professionally.

Speaker 2 (02:09:19):
Yeah, but this time, Like every now and then, you'll
hear one and you're thinking, Okay, well that's not an
adult doing a kid's voice. That's a kid like you
can sort of hear it in the voice, unless they're
doing some like pitch altering in post, which is always
a possibility. Anyway, that was the first thing I thought.
I also think, like all the trailers so far seem

(02:09:43):
to be fairly limited on how much Maui they're showing,
which makes me wonder how much Maui shows up in
the film. I would not actually be upset for Maui
to not be in it all the way through. I
think the character works best as kind of an exclamation point.
But yeah, I'm I think it looks good. It's kind

(02:10:07):
of like Frozen. I never really felt the need for
there to be a sequel. I felt that the original
story kind of is a perfect encapsulation of a tail.
There's no need to extend the narrative. But it doesn't
look bad.

Speaker 1 (02:10:22):
Yeah, I agree on all of those points. I don't
think it's necessary, but it looks fine. It looks like
maybe one of the better sequels. It's maybe more interesting
to me than Frozen two, which I also haven't seen,
but Frozen didn't super appeal to me either.

Speaker 2 (02:10:39):
Yeah, you don't need to see Frozen two, then, Like
I have seen Frozen two, and I think I might
like Frozen a little more than you do. It's still
not like I don't feel the need to ever watch
it again, but I did not like Frozen two.

Speaker 1 (02:10:55):
Yeah, and after my long tirade about adults who play kids,
it is absolute not an adult playing Moana's little sister.
It's a young a young girl whose name is Khalisi
Lambert Suda so Kalisi it's her first name.

Speaker 2 (02:11:11):
Yeah, ah, okay, no comment, all right?

Speaker 1 (02:11:15):
Adorable adorable little girl.

Speaker 2 (02:11:18):
I'm sure the girl is absolutely adorable. Uh yeah, so
Trayler looks fine. What did we need a sequel to
mo Wana? Probably not? Did Disney need a sequel to
mo Wana? Probably you're not.

Speaker 1 (02:11:32):
You're well, yeah, maybe.

Speaker 2 (02:11:37):
I mean Disney. Disney's had kind of a imperfect track
record when it comes to straying from their established ips.
In recent years, They've got some good ones, like Incanto
was great. I still think Turning Red was fantastic.

Speaker 1 (02:11:53):
I thought it was delightful, you.

Speaker 2 (02:11:55):
Know, and I understand that. Yeah, there is that fear
that if you if you invest in creating all news
stories and you're not relying on existing IP, you're not
guaranteed to find an audience, although I think the more
recent examples of that being a big thing largely also

(02:12:17):
fall in a failure to market the film properly.

Speaker 1 (02:12:21):
Yeah. Well they did market like they came out with Wish, right,
and that was marketed well and technically new, but it
was just pulling a character from other stuff essentially.

Speaker 2 (02:12:36):
Well and a lot Yeah, and that one had pretty
mid word of mouth, right, Like, no one, I don't
think anyone said, oh this is terrible, but a lot
of people said it's nothing special, and that kind of
killed the momentum. I still haven't. I still haven't seen it.

Speaker 1 (02:12:52):
I had a few people who I know who thought
it was a bit contrived, so you know, but then again,
they even in that they didn't completely divest themselves from
previous ip it was.

Speaker 2 (02:13:07):
Yeah, it's true, it's it was. It was sort of like, hey,
let's dip our toe and act like we're going to
make a cartoon version of Once upon a Time? Yeah,
once And they didn't, but they aren't.

Speaker 1 (02:13:22):
Isn't Ilio? Isn't that a Disney movie? And that's out?

Speaker 2 (02:13:28):
That sounds familiar? Is it? I'd have to I'd have
to look it up. Are you looking it up now?

Speaker 1 (02:13:35):
Ellio? Yeah? Elliot is a Disney film that is about
the boy who uh like his mom is in the
space program or something and you three Aliens or something.

Speaker 2 (02:13:49):
We saw like a we saw like a teaser teaser
thing about this like ages ago, right.

Speaker 1 (02:13:55):
Yeah, yeah, and it's not coming out till June thirteenth,
twenty twenty five.

Speaker 2 (02:13:59):
Okay, Yeah, that's why I barely remember it. I remember.
I do remember that we covered this and talked about it. Briefly,
but I have no other recollection. I remember when I
I want to say that my reaction of seeing it
was that I would need to see more before I
would really be sold on it.

Speaker 1 (02:14:19):
Yeah, and for all we know that it doesn't look
like it from the teaser, the trailer they came out with,
but it could just be all of the aliens from
Lelo and Stitch for all we know.

Speaker 2 (02:14:30):
So well, we have one. We have one last story,
which is dumb.

Speaker 1 (02:14:38):
It is dumb. So you know how Nintendo was like, hey,
look out for the cool new thing we're doing.

Speaker 2 (02:14:46):
It's not the hardware, new hardware.

Speaker 1 (02:14:49):
New hardware we're doing. Unless they are playing a terrible,
horrible joke, it is not that cool. It is an
alarm clock that I would break out a frustrate in
less than one day.

Speaker 2 (02:15:02):
It's supposed to be reminiscent of your classic wind up
alarm clock, the little round one that you would wind
up and have a little alarm bells on top and
a clacker that would go back and forth when the
alarm goes off. Except this one is Wi Fi enabled,
so it's got a digital clock face. It's not actually
an analog clock the way your classic alarm clock is

(02:15:27):
and instead of ringing a bell at a really loud
and obnoxious volume, it plays music and sound effects from
various Nintendo games in an effort to get your butt
out of bed.

Speaker 1 (02:15:42):
And it's got like a calm mode and an aggressive mode.
The aggressive mode gets louder and more intense as time
goes on. But it does such things as like you're
laying in bed and you roll over, and with your
body movements it will make coin ding noises from like
Mario Brothers games.

Speaker 2 (02:16:00):
So every movement, congratulations, you've got bonus points by moving
in bed.

Speaker 1 (02:16:07):
Yeah, or platoon splats which sound very similar to gunshots
and I don't want to wake me up at all.

Speaker 2 (02:16:14):
Yeah. You can wave at the at the clock in
order to snooze it. Getting out of bed turns the
alarm off, and you can have an alarm clock, just
an alarm clock. It doesn't do anything else but be
an alarm clock and play some Nintendo noises for the

(02:16:36):
low low price of one hundred dollars.

Speaker 1 (02:16:39):
Cheez Louise.

Speaker 2 (02:16:41):
Yeah, like Ariel, when was the last time you needed
an alarm clock?

Speaker 1 (02:16:47):
I actually got one a year or two ago for Christmas,
but that's because sometimes I like to be woken up
to the radio, and I don't like using my phone
for that because I like having my phone on silent
because I get so many freaking messages.

Speaker 2 (02:17:02):
Yeah that see, Yeah, that's totally understandable. Yeah, you don't
want to get notifications in the middle of the night,
waking you up all at all hours. Like my phone,
after a certain amount of time goes into sleep mode,
like after like I think it's ten thirty or eleven, No,
it's eleven thirty. At eleven thirty, my phone goes into

(02:17:24):
sleep mode and it stays that way until seven am
unless I specifically turn it on to wake it up.
But I can set an alarm before seven am and
it'll play the alarm. It'll just suppress everything else. So
for me, I'm like, I don't. I can't think of
a time where I would need a digital Now, granted,

(02:17:45):
if I were a kid and I didn't have a phone, which,
by the way, I strongly feel that kids shouldn't, but whatever,
I don't have kids, so who am I to say.
I just feel weird about kids having phones. But maybe
it's because I was old and I didn't get my
own phone. Until I was like twenty. Anyway, I had a.

Speaker 1 (02:18:05):
Phone as a teenager, but it was a Nokia brick
you know.

Speaker 2 (02:18:10):
Yeah, I cell phones weren't really a thing until I
was in college, and I couldn't afford one at that point,
so it wasn't until I was out of college until
I got one. But yeah, the I can see a
kid needing to have a digital alarm clock, but I'm like,
are you going to spend one hundred bucks for a
now clock for your kid?

Speaker 1 (02:18:27):
I did not spend one hundred bucks on my alarm
clock at all. Well, I didn't spend anything. It was
a Christmas gift. But mine also has a light because
I because of my sleep paralysis that I sometimes get,
I don't like falling asleep in the dark. If I
hear a noise, I like having a little bit of
light until like there's somebody else in the room with me.

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My jerk cats don't always stay in the room with me,
and sometimes they're the one causing the noises and they
freak me out.

Speaker 2 (02:18:56):
I about to say, like, like, there are gonna be
times where you definitely don't want someone in the room
with you, because if you went in by yourself, and
now there's someone in there that's a problem.

Speaker 1 (02:19:06):
Yeah, but it has a light that I can adjust
the color and the brightness. And that also keeps me
from like turning on the TV for uh, because for
a while I was turning on the TV like on
a black screen on like Amazon with some wave noises.
But you know, looking at a TV before bed is
not the smartest. So now I turn on my alarm
clock light that goes off after a certain amount of time,

(02:19:28):
and a sound machine, and it's much better.

Speaker 2 (02:19:30):
Did friend, did friend of the show Shaye Lee inflict
upon you her nighttime ritual of playing YouTube videos on
her laptop while you were because you roomed with her?

Speaker 1 (02:19:41):
Yeah, oh well she was doing that. She was finishing
up a show and also writing for the podcast. So yeah, eventually,
like I left the light on for her for a while,
and eventually I had to be like, Okay, I'm turning
the light off. You can still watch whatever you want,
but I'm turning the light off.

Speaker 2 (02:19:59):
Yeah. Yeah, I love shaye Ley to death, but her
sleep habits are a little wild to me.

Speaker 1 (02:20:07):
Yeah, I'm so distracted because there's a creepy jumping spider
somewhere in here.

Speaker 2 (02:20:12):
With me.

Speaker 1 (02:20:13):
I have also spent we have spent a lot of
money in our household on a daylight alarm clock. But
that's because it slowly gets brighter for like people with
seasonal effective disorder, it slowly gets brighter to imitate sunlight.
If you have to get up before the sun is
fully up so that you have a better wake up experience.
That's not for me, but we have one in my house.

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Sometimes they use it.

Speaker 2 (02:20:37):
Okay, Well, apparently some people still have use for digital clocks.
The rest of us have entered into the twenty first
century and we have other technology that does have for us.

Speaker 1 (02:20:48):
So tell you that simulate sunlight for you.

Speaker 2 (02:20:52):
Actually, my phone does have that mot method too.

Speaker 1 (02:20:55):
Nice. I don't know if mine does, but it probably
this clock is pretty bad or my phone would not
be able to produce the same kind of light.

Speaker 2 (02:21:05):
Yeah. Well no, it wouldn't be bright enough for that.
I wouldn't want that setting anyway. I wake up before
anyone else does in my house, so including my dog.
All right, Well, I think that's it. I think that's
all the trailers, that is it.

Speaker 1 (02:21:21):
Yeah, So if you have anything to talk about about
any of these things that we talked about and you
want to tell us about it, to talk about it
to us. I'm good at words, now, Jonathan, how do
people talk to tell us to do?

Speaker 2 (02:21:37):
So, You're gonna set your alarm clock, not your phone,
but your alarm clock for seven fifteen in the morning,
and when the alarm goes off, you're gonna snooze it twice.
And after the second time, you're gonna turn it off.
You're gonna get up, you're gonna do your morning routine,
and then you're going to go outside and you're going

(02:22:00):
to just take a moment to enjoy the cool morning air.
And then you're gonna take a little stroll down the road,
just down the road a little bit until you're at
a safe distance from your home and everybody else. And then,
like your life depended on it, I want you to

(02:22:21):
scrunch your eyes up tight and to clench your hands
into fists, and really with all the force you can manage,
I'm gonna need you to voop your hurting. And if
you do that, I'll show up and I'll answer your question.

Speaker 1 (02:22:36):
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(02:22:58):
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(02:23:18):
Thank you all so much for listening. If you're in Quorta,
we hope you're safe from the storms. If you're anywhere else,
we also hope that you're safe in having a lovely fall.
And until next time, I am Aria Aeriel purv cast.

Speaker 2 (02:23:33):
In, and I am Jonathan. I'm a simulation Stricklin.

Speaker 1 (02:23:39):
Are you really?

Speaker 2 (02:23:41):
I don't even know anymore. The Large nerdron Collider was
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