LNC Gets Excited for 2025

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Speaker 1 (00:09):
Hey, everybody, Welcome to the Large nor John Collider Podcast,
the podcast that's all about the geeky things happening in
the world around us and how very excited we are
about them. We have missed you. I am Ariel cast In,
and with me, as always is the amazingly awesome Jonathan Strickland.

Speaker 2 (00:26):
I don't know if I remember how to do this anymore.

Speaker 1 (00:30):
That's okay. I introed us, so we're already in it.

Speaker 2 (00:33):
Yeah, you know what first take y'all who which before us?
Before the hiatus. I'm going to be honest with you,
there were a couple of episodes where we had to
do it twice.

Speaker 1 (00:47):
It depends on how much sleep I've had.

Speaker 2 (00:49):
Yeah, and then and then of course we end up
referencing things that have been cut out of the episode,
and then everyone's like, why aren't they even talking about?

Speaker 1 (00:56):
You know what? The real problem is the problem is
is when I try to get clever and it's something
into the intro, but I haven't figured out how or
where to put it because I don't give it enough forethought.

Speaker 2 (01:08):
Yeah, I always do my little weird response when you
introduced me, and honestly, ninety nine times out of one hundred.
I don't know what I'm gonna say until you're like,
you're like saying my name, and I'm like, oh, no,
say something. So but it is nice to be back.
As Ariel said, we had been on a very long

(01:30):
hiatus because we had holidays and travel. I went out
of the country.

Speaker 1 (01:36):
I went out of town a couple of times.

Speaker 2 (01:39):
Yeah. So, and that's going to happen more, obviously, because
we've got more holidays coming up. Ariel's going to be
celebrating a birthday real soon.

Speaker 1 (01:48):
We might we still you know, we record on my
birthday this year. We might still record an episode if
you're free. I just have stuff in that evening. Yeah,
it's not I'm not partying. I'm doing actor work.

Speaker 2 (02:00):
It bums me out though, because I invited her to
a party and she can't go.

Speaker 1 (02:05):
I know, I have an acting conference and there are
people there that I should meet that I have not
had an opportunity to meet before.

Speaker 2 (02:13):
So you are doing the right thing. We're just all
the poorer for it because we were gonna try and
get together and do some karaoke and Ariel's voice is
always welcome.

Speaker 1 (02:22):
Well one, I'm poor for it too. Because I love
doing karaoke with you. And two, I don't know, I've
been I've been singing along to my Broadway playlists and
it's not been pretty lately.

Speaker 2 (02:34):
Oh listen, you don't have to. You don't have to
to make excuses for me. I mean I have I
have never been the strongest singer, but my abilities have
atrophied severely.

Speaker 1 (02:49):
So part of it is a few weeks ago, I
went to a friend's birthday party, and I don't it
was after Disney, so I don't know if something at
Disney caused it, or I think the party caused it,
or it was completely random. But after this birthday party,
the next day, I woke up with horrible hives.

Speaker 2 (03:06):
Oh my gosh, Like I had.

Speaker 1 (03:08):
To be put on prednizone and stuff and so and so,
like I'm working to go see an allergist to figure
out what caused that, because that's new. Yeah, but it
my throat still has not quite It's it's not COVID,
I've checked. It's not of cold, it's it's allergy ish,

(03:30):
but my throat hasn't quite recovered yet.

Speaker 2 (03:31):
So wow, Well, I hope you figured that out soon,
because as someone who suffers from various allergies. I know
how scary that can be, especially like when you get
if you get hives and then it develops into beyond hives,
to things like you feel you're breathing tubes starting to
swell up. It's it's serious stuff. I've been to the

(03:53):
hospital more than once because of that.

Speaker 1 (03:56):
I've I've definitely had like skin breakouts or lies.

Speaker 2 (04:00):
But this was like all body.

Speaker 1 (04:03):
It was all over my arms, on my ankles, on
my chest and spreading.

Speaker 2 (04:10):
Did you have did you were any of your soft tissues,
like say your lips or whatever swelling up to.

Speaker 1 (04:16):
I couldn't tell. I was so distracted by the thing.
But I did definitely have like itchy sword throat, which
is what I get with my normal food allergens. Right,
And it's been hard because sometimes it does feel like
my throat tightens. It's never to the point where I
can't breathe, but it's one of those things that is
hard to quantify.

Speaker 2 (04:36):
Sure, yeah, I've I've had the experience a couple times
going into anaphylaxis and it's no fun. And it's it's
slow enough where it's not like it's not like it's instantaneous.
It's a process, but it's a process that only gets
worse until you start getting like any histamines pumped into you.

(04:57):
So I hope that you get this figured out and
that whatever it is is something that's easy to avoid
and not tragic.

Speaker 1 (05:05):
Yeah. Yeah, me, me too. Uh. I I have had
like my lips go numb and tingly, and yet I've
gotten lightheaded once.

Speaker 2 (05:12):
But that's I told you. I'm sorry. The kiss was
what it was. We're on stage, we're doing a show.
We have to kiss. She goes all tingly and numb.
It's just what I do.

Speaker 1 (05:25):
That's more interesting than the actual story.

Speaker 2 (05:26):
So yeah, yeah, because actual story is that our stage
kisses were about as chaste as they possibly could be.

Speaker 1 (05:33):
Which is how stage kisses are should be.

Speaker 2 (05:36):
Yes, they should be that follow that. Yeah, when I
hear those stories, and you even told me one once,
but when I hear those stories, it is mortifying to me.
I'm like, when you're on stage with someone, you need
to feel like you can trust that person because that's
that's your partner for telling a story, like trust is

(05:58):
absolutely necessary for that and to violate that trust by
like frenching someone on a stage kiss when you told
me that, Oh my gosh, I got so upset and
angry on your behalf. And you, of course had already
processed it by the time you told me, but I,
for me, it was the first time, and I just

(06:18):
got real head up about it.

Speaker 1 (06:20):
I mean, like, processing is a thing. If I think
about it too much, I'll still get angry because part
of my processing.

Speaker 2 (06:25):
Is just like moving past the suppression then moving on.

Speaker 1 (06:30):
Not gonna lieh but yeah.

Speaker 2 (06:34):
Yeah, well, and you know, I've heard the same sort
of thing from It's almost always the women I know
who I've been in theater, like the experiences they've had,
and I just sit there and think, like, what kind
of crappy actor takes like takes that kind of advantage
of their scene partner, Like it's it's so unthinkable to me.

(06:56):
My thought process whenever I had a stage kiss was
just like are you sure? Because I'm more of a
character actor than like a romantic lead, but I'm ill,
I will, I will happily do a stage kiss if
you want me to, but like, are you sure you
want that? And fortunately the people I've been paired with

(07:18):
we've always been professional as you and Shae, friend of
the show shay Lee. She and I had some stage
kisses at a season at Fair and I've been lucky
that everyone was super professional and like it was the
same thing as doing anything else on stage, like shaking
someone's hand or like, you know, stepping past someone. It
wasn't ever, it wasn't ever anything more than that. And

(07:43):
I just can't imagine someone being like, this is my chance, yeah,
smooch a hawtie.

Speaker 1 (07:47):
Well, And that's why I really love in Hollywood. This
is not at all where we intended to go, but
it's totally fine. It's why I love in Hollywood that
intimacy coordinators are becoming a thing. Yeah, because at that,
like you said, it's like making a hand or something.
You know. I've there's Jessica I don't remember her Steinrock.
She's she's a TikTok and Instagram intimacy coordinator. Her her

(08:10):
content is amazing. I love it, but you know, she's like,
it's like fight choreography. You know it should be specific,
and you know they are working within actors comfort levels
and things like that. But there are some actors who
are like, I'm fine, I like improving. I don't need
an intimacy coordinator, But you do even if you and
the other actor decide that you're okay winging it a

(08:32):
little bit because you want to make sure everybody's comfortable,
and you want that in a mediary because you may
not be comfortable telling your scene partner. But beyond that,
when you choreograph a kiss or something like that and
you talk through it and you make sure that it
is chased, then there's not like a chance of getting

(08:54):
extra feels. I mean, how many times in Hollywood do
we hear about like this person in this part or
and in community theater too hooked up and broke up
with their current significant others because they hooked up and
it's just it's not healthy.

Speaker 2 (09:06):
Yeah, we had that. The stories are happening right now.
Like if you look at if you look at any
of the stuff around Wicked, you're gonna run into that.
For good reason. I mean, we don't want to, We
don't need to go into all that. But this is
also why, like Ariel was saying, you know, catching feels
being something that actors are just as prone to as
other people. Some might argue more prone to it, which

(09:28):
is why you know, Ariel and I did a stage
kiss and Shaye and I did a stage kiss, and
that's why Ariel and Shaye love each other. Now, it's
just it's through they through a degree of separation, they've
made out and you know it's my fault.

Speaker 1 (09:41):
It is. It is really interesting because you know, one thing,
you have to separate yourself from your character because you
spend so much time in this other person's shoes. That's
why it's so easy to conflate their feelings with your feelings,
even if you're not a method actor, because you are
still feeling something sure, and if it's imaginary.

Speaker 2 (09:56):
If you're not, then all you're doing is is moving
to point, saying something, moving to another point, saying the
next thing, like you're just going through the paces and
not actually acting.

Speaker 1 (10:08):
I saw somebody talk about Wicked and they said that
Cynthia Rivo on set, who played Alphaba, would literally step
forward to get into character and step back to get
out of it because that character goes to some pretty
dark places. And so I found that very interesting. Everybody
has their own like decompression.

Speaker 2 (10:27):
Methods, but yeah, it's interesting. I'm curious about yours. Like
I'm one of those actors who I can go I
can go from backstage Jonathan to on stage character. Just
as soon as I cross the threshold to go on
to stage, like don't, I don't have that thing where
I stay in character. When I come off stage, I

(10:48):
go right back into backstage Jonathan, and then I'm fine
to be on stage character again. Like it doesn't. You
could argue, I'm also not a very good actor. So
let's take that as a grain of salt.

Speaker 1 (10:59):
I'm gonna argue that you are a very good actor.
But whatever, thank you, You're welcome. I mean so, like
for funny characters, it is easier if your character is
in a light heart or even serious characters, if they're
in a light hearted place, it's a lot easier to
step back and forth. It's when you've got the big
angry emotions or sad emotions, things like that. Yeah, and
you have experienced.

Speaker 2 (11:20):
That, yes, yeah, if you want to, if you want
to play something someone who has very strong, passionate and
typically angry or hurt emotions, it is much harder to
just do the switch flipping from one to the other. Like,
I totally get that, because again, if you want it
to be genuine and not just the performance of emotion,

(11:46):
which an audience can smell a mile away, right. We
can all tell when someone's just faking it, like sometimes
that's staged, like sometimes it's an important part of a
story where you can tell that a character is faking
that they are upset or sad or whatever. But if
you are supposed to be, you want the audience to
feel that you are, And so I can totally see
it in those And for the most part, most of

(12:07):
the stuff I've worked in has been light light theater.

Speaker 1 (12:12):
We shall say, yeah, yeah, you know its Yeah, I
do a lot of light stuff. I've lately had a
lot of additions for distrap people, so it has been
like a challenge because usually what happens is I'll step
into that character, the tears don't come, which you don't
need tears to earnestly portray upset or sad or heartbroken
or whatever. You don't need tears half the time. Then

(12:33):
when we show up on camera, unless you're in a
super close up anyhow, but you know, usually I will
fight with that emotion and then when I'm done with
the scene, I'll go off and cry in a corner. Yeah,
which I would rather cry on camera and get it
out there.

Speaker 2 (12:51):
But well, I want to say it was I could
be wrong about the actor, but I want to say
it was Mike Cocaine who was talking about the paw
hour of a character who appears to be holding back
tears instead of like a character who's just outwardly crying.
And then a character that appears to be trying to

(13:12):
stop themselves from crying or expressing an emotion can often
have a much larger emotional impact on an audience than
a character who's actually like outwardly sobbing.

Speaker 1 (13:23):
Yeah. Yeah, because when you see someone trying to hide
their emotions, that's what we all do every day. Yeah,
but that actually leads into one of my thirty seconds
or less stories because I got some opinions on it.

Speaker 2 (13:35):
Okay, well we'll get to that, but before we do that, Like,
this has been a long preamble, This is going to
be a long episode. I can tell away. But well,
let's talk a.

Speaker 1 (13:44):
Little situate in very short bits so you get through
the holidays.

Speaker 2 (13:47):
Yeah, because who knows what, we'll be taking more breaks,
but let's plan on recording next week unless something crazy happens.
But we want to start off the way we typically
do and talk about some of the stuff we've seen
since the last time we recorded. Now, in my case,
I could only remember a couple of things, even though
I know I've seen more than that. But Ariel, let's

(14:08):
talk about your stuff first, because you've got quite a
bit here.

Speaker 1 (14:12):
Yeah. So Gastronauts is the dropout show. I've been continuing
to watch that. They've been putting out stuff like every week.
It's interesting when you said you often don't know what
you're going to say until as I'm announcing you, because
the host of Gastronauts admitted to a similar thing. She's like,
I don't know what food pun I'm gonna do. Oh no,
I have twenty seconds to figure it out. Yeah, they

(14:35):
usually do great. So I watched that. It continues to
be fun. It is hard. It's weird because again it's
not always about pretty food. It's about meeting the comedic challenge.
But the food usually always tastes good. I watched Last
Fight Hotel, which was more of a Halloween feature. But

(14:56):
I'm behind on everything where Titus Burgess is the host
of a I might have already talked about this, so
I'll keep it. Every host of like a hotel, and
all of these chefs come in, they can only put
thirteen items in their chest, and that's what they get
to cook with for the entire week. Are those thirteen items.

Speaker 2 (15:14):
And once they're out of something, they're out.

Speaker 1 (15:16):
They're out. Yes, And then each challenge, like a celebrity
chef comes in and asks for something like beef wellington.
Well one chef only brought rice and chicken and herbs,
so you still have to figure it out. There's there's
a little bit of sharing allowed, but not much. And
then when somebody does get eliminated, they have to go
to room thirteen and basically write out their will for

(15:38):
who gets what of their remaining belongings.

Speaker 2 (15:40):
Oh okay, it's a.

Speaker 1 (15:42):
Really fun show. It was like the chefs were great
to watch. It was fun to see how they tackled
each challenge and came up with new dishes with the
same ingredients because you know, food waste is a thing,
so it was kind of cool to look from that aspect.
Titus Burges, who I love. He played Titus in the
Incredible Can Be Incredible. Kimi Schmidt Unbreakable. Kimmie Schmidt, that's it.

Speaker 2 (16:03):
She was also the song Yeah breakable, She's.

Speaker 1 (16:06):
Also incredible, But yes, Unbreakable. Kimischmitt really committed to the
incredibly socially awkward, kind of creepy hotel concierge, but was
in a completely different story than everybody else in this challenge.
The rest of it was a cooking show and nobody
else had a character.

Speaker 2 (16:26):
Did that add to or detract from your experience?

Speaker 1 (16:30):
I would I think it detracted a little bit, because
I mean, like even the celebrity guest chefs weren't playing
care Like one or two of them played up the
guest aspect, but it was pretty much everybody else acting
like normal people and then him being way over the
top weird, which in a comedy horror would be perfect.
Like again, committed to the role. It was just fit

(16:54):
different genre.

Speaker 2 (16:56):
Yeah, that's it kind of makes me. It makes me
curious if Alan Cumming is like that in was it
like Traders or something like that. Yeah, there's that which
I haven't watched yet, but he always comes across very
like extra theatrical in the little clips I've seen, and
I wonder if it's if there's like a similar situation

(17:16):
going on there because I haven't seen the show, so
I don't.

Speaker 1 (17:18):
Know if it's like that or if he's just goofy
like mikey Day and Is It Cake, which has a
holiday four part series which was delightful. I watched that.
I watched Dancing with finished Dancing with the Stars, I
finished Vox Macana. All of those are great, highly recommend.

Speaker 2 (17:36):
How emotional did you get for Vox Makana?

Speaker 1 (17:40):
Not too bad?

Speaker 2 (17:41):
Okay? Okay?

Speaker 1 (17:42):
And Critical Role just released the Twelve Days of Grog
Miss Little music video, which is hilarious.

Speaker 2 (17:49):
I do not know about this, but I will be
checking it out after the record.

Speaker 1 (17:52):
Share with you. I started watching Chaos, which is the
got canceled after one season Jeff Bloom play on Greek mythology.

Speaker 2 (18:02):
Mythology set in modern day, an alternate version of modern
day Greece.

Speaker 1 (18:07):
Yeah. Yeah, the first episode was delightful. The rest of
it is still very good, but has gotten much much darker.

Speaker 2 (18:15):
Yeah, I only saw the first one. I remember, Oh,
why can't I remember the actress's name? She played Cassandra
and Chaos. She was Rose in Doctor.

Speaker 1 (18:26):
Who Oh, Billy Piper.

Speaker 2 (18:28):
Billy Piper. I remember. I remember seeing her and thinking, oh,
this was not the kind of character I was expecting
her to play.

Speaker 1 (18:36):
Yeah yeah, so like again, I think it's really great.
I love the play that they're doing. It just it
gets very dark, but if you think about it real
Greek mythology, it's incredibly dark, very true, incredibly dark. But
I'm enjoying that. I just that's that's a preface. I
realized that, you know, I'm part of the problem because
I didn't watch it when it first came out, But
they also didn't advertise it for it, like, the advertising

(18:59):
doesn't match the show's tone to me.

Speaker 2 (19:02):
Yeah, yeah, I think the advertising was there to try
and intrigue people, but the downside of that was it
didn't give you an accurate representation of what the show
was like. So then when people did tune in, they
were like, oh, this isn't what I was expecting, and
then they bounced yeah.

Speaker 1 (19:18):
And then I watched a whole bunch of wicked TikTok
and through that learned about Swept Away, and then immediately
learned that it's closing next week, which is sad.

Speaker 2 (19:29):
Oh yeah, Swept Away, that's a from what I understand,
that's a pretty emotionally intense show.

Speaker 1 (19:37):
Which is probably why it's closing and hasn't got found
its huge audience. But they've their TikTok game is delightful.

Speaker 2 (19:44):
So you haven't seen Wicked, You've just seen a lot
of Wicked clips, Yeah, like or like people doing the
loathing dance over and over again.

Speaker 1 (19:54):
Yes, I had one of my house guests because we
had a couple of teenagers with us wanted to see
it and we just couldn't find time to fit in
a two and a half hour movie.

Speaker 2 (20:05):
Film.

Speaker 1 (20:06):
Yeah, I do intend to see it, and I do
intend to see Red Ones. Still, it just hasn't happened yet.
But yes, I I too have tried to learn the
Christopher Scott Loathing dance and dancing through life because he
is more like that. Honestly, the choreography is what has
made me excited for the movie. I like, I've not

(20:26):
seen the entire play. I've seen some like slime tutorials,
and I've not read the book. But I am, you know,
very familiar with the story. But Christopher Scott, so I
understand where part two is gonna go. Christopher Scott's choreography
is so inspired and perfect for each of the characters.

Speaker 2 (20:43):
That it's just it's it's incredibly athletic too, like the ensemble.
When I watched I saw. I haven't seen the film.
I've seen the stage show multiple times. I don't know that.
I like, I don't feel a strong draw to see
the movie, which people will tell me I'm crazy for that,
because everyone who all of our friends who have seen

(21:04):
it have raved about it. But I don't know. It
just hasn't really like, it hasn't inspired me to go
make time and see it in the theater. I probably will,
but like, I don't feel that draw. But I will
say that the bits I have seen of people doing
that choreography, I have been so impressed with the athleticism

(21:25):
required because like this is I watched that and I'm
just like man to think of how many takes they
must have had to do and how exhausting that looks.

Speaker 1 (21:35):
It's phenomenal that I mean, much like Beetlejuice when I
went to see it on Broadway. That is kind of
what's drawing me to see the movie. It wasn't the story.
I like the Wizard of Oz and the Wicked story
is just fine, although you know, a little a little
bittersweet from my liking makes sense, But yeah, the choreography
being so athletics, so inspired, the fact that so many

(21:57):
of the actors did their own stunts. Uh, because they did.
Cynthia Evo did most of her own stunts.

Speaker 2 (22:07):
Yeah, she was. She was singing defying gravity while in
a harness being flung around the soundstage.

Speaker 1 (22:14):
Yeah. And Jonathan Bailey, I think, is a guy who
plays Fiero. He might have gotten that name wrong from Richerton.
He got strapped into a device and sings while going
upside down and then right side up. Like, Yeah, that
takes a lot of add muscles. That's hard.

Speaker 2 (22:31):
Yeah. No, they from a from a performance standpoint, it's
absolutely incredible. I just I don't know. Maybe maybe I
would really dig it, but I almost feel like I've
grown out of Wicked. So this happens to me with
musicals all the time, where I will go through a
phase where I really like a musical and then at

(22:53):
some point it's usually very organic, so I can't point
to a single like instance or time or whatever, but
at some point I'll just be like, yeah, I used
to like that, but I don't really care for it anymore.
So like Phantom would be an example where I loved
it when I was a kid, I can barely stomach
it now. Lame is another example. There's a show that

(23:17):
I loved as a teenager and then as an adult,
I find it very tiresome. But like like Wicked kind
of falls into that category too. Like I loved Wicked
when I first saw it, and I still like some
of the songs, But I don't know, I don't know
that I would actually even go see a stage show
version of it again now unless it was like with

(23:39):
people I knew who were going to be really hyped
for it, and then I'm really seeing it so I
can observe their reactions more than the show.

Speaker 1 (23:47):
Yeah, yeah, I get that, you know, Rent, I never
grew into.

Speaker 2 (23:50):
But oh my god, Rent, No, Rent can go okay,
this is a family show. Rent, Rent can go flip itself?

Speaker 1 (24:00):
Yeah, I mean again, I I you know, I had
an interesting childhood. I started working full time pretty early
so and going to school full time, but my choice.
But you know, and as an artist, I'm like, you can.
You can pay your rent and still do your art well.

Speaker 2 (24:17):
And I also felt that that Benny, up until the
point where he he puts Mimi in a terrible position,
until he does that, Benny's actually the good guy in
that show.

Speaker 1 (24:29):
Yeah, yeah, a lot of a lot of people I
know feel that way. A lot of artists I know
honestly feel that way, and that's in no way to
I know that paying right right now, especially right now,
is exceptionally hard. So this is not making light of
artists who do.

Speaker 2 (24:44):
Struggle, but at least some of the characters in that
show appear to be coming from money, and that like
part of their self identity is that they have thrown
off the shackles of mom and dad, who, by the way,
as the show goes on, they leave messages that make
it sound like they just love and support their kids. Oh,

(25:05):
screw you, mom and Dad. And I'm like, hey, I
know people who actually had horrible childhoods and really serious
family trauma. So for this show to be like, all
these artists are really self righteous and they don't want
to pay rent, and they're real mad at mom and dad,
who appear to only want the best for them, I'm like,
screw you.

Speaker 1 (25:26):
I Also, I'm also one of the few people where
my favorite song from Rent is Seasons of Love.

Speaker 2 (25:32):
Oh gosh, oh, I hate that song. No, my favorite.
My favorite is one song Glory, which is a song
about writing a song except the song that the guy
writes ends up not being nearly as good as the
song about writing the song. Yeah, yeah, it might as
well have been tribute Tenacious D. All Right, well, let

(25:53):
me talk a little bit about the stuff I saw. Yes,
I saw Heredic, which is the thriller slash horror movie
that Hugh Grant was in. Hugh Grant plays a character
who has expressed interest in the Church of Latter day Saints,
and two female missionaries go to call on him in

(26:18):
an effort to convert him to the Church of Mormon,
and then ends up being that the two women are
they discover that they're being held against their will. They
don't know it at first, they just get uneasy. They
try to leave and find that they can't, and then
Hugh Grant goes on to mansplain religion to them for

(26:40):
the next hour and a half while they try to
figure out a way to escape it. Actually, like, I
really like this movie. It's gonna sound like I Yeah,
it's gonna sound like I didn't because I've got I've
got a lot of critical things to say, But I
actually really liked it, and I love Hugh Grant's performance.
I thought he was perfect but I also recognize things

(27:03):
that I do in Hugh Grant's character, and it made
me feel real bad about myself.

Speaker 1 (27:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (27:08):
So, like, one of the things he does is he
explains things through analogies, and so do I like tech stuff.
If you listen to tech stuff, you've heard me explain
things through analogies. Heck, if you've listened long enough, you've
heard the same analogy used like twenty times. But Hugh
Grant does it where he explains the concept using analogies,

(27:30):
and he explains the exact same concept using two different analogies,
but it's the exact same thing. Like in one he's
talking about how he's essentially talking about how religions are
all copies off of older religions essentially, So like he
does this one way by comparing Judaism, Christianity, and then

(27:56):
the Church of Latter day Saints with different versions of monopoly, right,
Like he does that, but he also talks about he
plays the air that I breathed by the Hollies. All
I need is the air that breathe that song, and
he says, you've heard this even if you don't know,
you've heard it, because it's the same chord progression used

(28:18):
in Radiohead's Creep, and in fact, the Hollies or members
of the Hollies sued Radiohead for copyright infringement and ultimately
were added on to the writing credits for Creep. Then
he says, and then oh, I can't remember who it was,
but someone else made a song. It was a much

(28:38):
more recent artist, which is why I don't know, because
I'm an old man and I'm out of touch. But
much more recent artists made a song that also has
the same chord progression, and Radiohead sued her, which is
funny because Radiohead had already been sued by the Hollies.

Speaker 1 (28:55):
So I don't know if it's this artist. I think,
Was it Dosha Cat who made an entire album that
is sampling other people's famous works?

Speaker 2 (29:05):
No, I think, But it turns out like there's tons
of videos online about this particular like legal case, this
interesting legal case of the Radiohead ends up suing this
other artist for copyrighted in fringement, which is interesting because
Radiohead itself had been sued for that exact same thing
by the Hollies, and there are lots of other songs

(29:27):
that have the same chord progression by.

Speaker 1 (29:29):
The way, Dua Lipa does have the remix album, but
I don't see Radiohead on the list.

Speaker 2 (29:34):
Yeah, no, it's this was not a remix. This was
a new original song, but it had the same not
just the same chord progression, but a very same similar
melodic line, like her melodic line sounds very similar to
Radioheads creep. So anyway, Herodic's great. I highly recommend it.

(29:56):
The ending is somewhat enigmatic, like it's kind of hard
to say exactly what happens by the end of it,
but I think that's fine because that's the way a
lot of horror slash thrillers end. Like there's still questions. No,
I don't think it's too there's some stuff in it
that you would probably hide your eyes when it happens.

(30:19):
There's some icky stuff in there. Not a lot, but
there's some. I don't think it's too scary for you.
I thought it was interesting, and I thought it also
was a great film showing how scary it is to
be a woman in the presence of a man. Okay, right,
like to me like that because Hugh Grant, like at

(30:41):
first is coming across as maybe a little sinister because
strange man around women, but mostly harmless, and that that
dial starts to move slowly as he has this conversation
with the two young women. Also, the two young women

(31:01):
both the actors were former Church of Latter Day Saints members.

Speaker 1 (31:05):
Interesting.

Speaker 2 (31:06):
Yeah, so definitely recommend it. I thought it was fascinating.
The theater I went to was it wasn't full, but
there were quite a few other people there, and it
was a smaller theater. It was like the tiniest of
the theater because all the other theaters were given over
to Wicked at that point.

Speaker 1 (31:24):
You know, I'm still happy to see theaters fill back
up a little bit.

Speaker 2 (31:28):
Yeah, I'll be talking about that in thirty seconds or less.
And the other the other thing I've been keeping up
with is what we do in the Shadows and watching
their final season and a much easier to do now
that I've got Hulu. But finally New Girl. Yeah, okay,
well it's on the list, but the list wait till

(31:51):
we get to our what's coming out in twenty twenty
five list. Yeah, so what we do in the Shadows?
You know what, I'll say this, I like, I've enjoyed
the episodes I've watched, but I don't feel that the
ones I've seen have been quite as strong as previous seasons.
But I hear that there's an episode I haven't seen

(32:13):
yet that is among the series' best episodes total, So
I look forward to seeing that once I get to it.

Speaker 1 (32:20):
Yeah, yeah, I need. I need to catch up on
what we do in the Shadows. It's I have to
be in the right mood for that kind of humor
because sometimes it's very clever and sometimes it's a little blue.
But also it's it's a little dry for Tony, it
doesn't really grab him. So it's one of the shows
I have to watch on my own.

Speaker 2 (32:40):
Becca and I like, that's one of the shows that
I'm not allowed to watch unless Becca's there. Unless I'm
watching old episodes that we've already seen, that's okay, but
I can't watch anything new.

Speaker 1 (32:50):
I also watched because we put up our Christmas tree
a couple days ago, we watched Emma Otter's joke Band Christmas.

Speaker 2 (32:58):
Yeah, that's a classic. So let me ask you, this
was Kermit in it or not?

Speaker 1 (33:03):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (33:04):
Oh wow, yeah, because there are a lot of cuts
of him and Otter where they cut Kermit out, And
I always complain about this because in the process of
cutting out Kermit, I think it was a thing where
it was a rights issue, right, like the rights to
emit Otter went to one company and Kermit and the
Muppets went to a different company, So you couldn't have

(33:27):
Kermit up here in it is my guess, I mean,
who knows. But for the longest time there was a
cut of im at order where there's a joke that
depends upon a specific line being said, but because Kermit
was in the background, they would cut that line, but
they kept the reaction of another character to that line,

(33:50):
so it made no sense. Which is where Emmett and
his mom are in the row boat and Missus Fox
is being super snooty to them, and Emmitt's mom is
trying to say something to missus Fox, and Missus Fox
has already stopped listening, and she's walking away, and she's say,
if you would just walk off the dock, you know,

(34:14):
like she's just saying, like I say, go go take
a long walk off a short peer essentially, and then
one of the other characters like, hey, that's telling her Alice, Well,
they cut out the part where she says walk off
the dock, and they kept that that's telling her, Alice,
but that's telling her what she literally didn't say anything.

Speaker 1 (34:31):
Yeah, yeah, I love that.

Speaker 2 (34:33):
I love that special though. It's it's a special place
in my heart.

Speaker 1 (34:36):
I do too. Sadly, we watched it right after National
Lampoon's Christmas vacation. I've never been a National Lampoon fan myself. Yeah,
I just never. I never watched it growing up, but
it is It's like Tony's one of Tony's get get
in the Holiday spirit shows because he did watch it
growing up, and it's it's fine enough, not everything ages

(35:00):
super well in it, but it is a little bit
of a whiplash to go from that to emmett Otter.

Speaker 2 (35:04):
Yeah, because em Otter is like sincere to a fault.
Yeah yeah yeah. The River Bottom Nightmare Gang is about
as edgy as they get. Yeah, it's funny to hear,
like it's essentially the voice of Fozzy the Bear coming
out of the leader of that group, and it's so
weird to see Fozzy the Bear as a heavy I mean,

(35:25):
it's not Fozzy the Bear, but it's it's Frank Oz's voice.

Speaker 1 (35:28):
But yeah, especially if you are at any point distracted
and just listening to it for sure.

Speaker 2 (35:33):
Yeah, well, there we go. That's what we've watched. And
now that we're almost forty minutes into our episode, we
can talk about thirty seconds or less.

Speaker 1 (35:43):
Well, this part will be only a few minutes. So yeah,
I start, Oh yeah, I'm gonna watch Skeleton Crew this weekend.
It's go happen. I say that because my first story
is about the Mandalorian. They're releasing a four K Ultra
high definition physical version of it, or they just have.

(36:05):
They did on December third, and one of the things
they include is a tribute to Carl Weathers, who was
in it as he passed away. So that's pretty cool.
You can watch a little bit of it on Collider's website.
I love when streaming shows get a physical release because
that way you aren't beholden to the streaming service keeping

(36:28):
it for you to enjoy it for years to come.
So this is pretty cool.

Speaker 2 (36:34):
And we can call that foreshadowing because my first story
is that Warner Brothers Discovery continues to twist the knife
on fans as we learned about cartoon series that will
be leaving the streaming service Max next year. Those shows
include ed Ed and Eddie the twenty three eighteen Titans series,
Green Lantern Animated series, the twenty eleven Loony Tunes show,

(36:57):
The Grim Adventures of Billy and Mandy, and Static Shock.
They're all scheduled to get dumped once again. Streaming services
giveth and they taketh away.

Speaker 1 (37:09):
In a bit of whiplash like you could get in
a women's wrestling show. Betty Gilpin is going from cartoons
to Glow. Is taking over for Cole Escalat in O
Mary on Broadway, which is a very comedic story from
the viewpoint of Mary Top Lincoln. Betty Gilpin was on

(37:32):
Glow and Missus Davis and she will be doing the
role January twenty first, twenty twenty five through March sixteenth,
and then somebody else will be taking over, probably because
they're actually going through June and Darry cool Well.

Speaker 2 (37:45):
Character actor extraordinaire Walton Goggins recently shared a picture of
him in the makeup chair from the second season of Fallout.
Goggins plays the character of the Ghoul. Presumably he spends
an awful lot of time in that chair, but he
very clearly, through the use of some very gruff language,
shared that he wouldn't have it any other way now,
because this is a family show. I will not quote him,

(38:07):
but I will paraphrase him, and he said, golly, it's
nice to be back.

Speaker 1 (38:12):
I am so excited. I loved the first season. I
can't wait for season two. See something I didn't love
as much but a lot of people did was season
one of Wednesday on Netflix. But season two has wrapped.
We've gotten some first images from it, and interestingly, Jenna Ortega,
who plays Wednesday, has taken over some producer type roles,

(38:38):
so she's rewriting lines and adjusting the story how she
thinks fits her character. Some of the things that they've
done is they've made it a little darker for season two,
leaning a little bit more into the horror, and they've
gotten rid of any romantic love interest for Wednesday, which
is kind of cool.

Speaker 2 (38:55):
Yeah, she doesn't need it well. Paget Brewster will be
starring in a sci fi mystery podcast series in the Audible.
It's called The Signal, which interestingly is also the title
of a horror film I was an extra in, but
this series is not related to that movie. Instead, it's
about a mystery surrounding disappearing data from space telescopes. And
what might be the cause, and it almost like a

(39:17):
pretty cool idea with lots of conspiracy theory stuff going on.
It'll be interesting to listen to Paget play a serious
character and not a socialite who consistently pronounces words in
very weird ways.

Speaker 1 (39:28):
It'll it'll be weird but fun. The creators of Evangelian
and I think it's pronounced fully coolly fl cl are
coming out with a new Gundam anime called It's spelled
gq You you you you you u X.

Speaker 2 (39:51):
I'm sorry, I'm just thinking about how I would try
and pronounce that.

Speaker 1 (39:55):
It's pronounced the gee quacks g quacks qu But it's yeah.
It's about these teenagers in a high school who live
in outer space and do like these clan fights in
mecha suits. I will say one of the tip I've
had some of my friends say that there's not a
lot that really harkens to Evangelian, But the character designer

(40:17):
for this new one from g Quax is from Evangelian,
and I can tell because the mech looks very similar
to an evasuit. And then also one of the main
characters looks very much like Asuka from Evangelian but I
think it looks really cute.

Speaker 2 (40:33):
Well, there's a new poster for the third season of
the Wheel of Time series. But since I've never read
those books, nor have I watched the series, I don't
understand the significance. So I'm just gonna describe it to you.
So there's a guy with really close cropped hair, and
he's carrying a woman through a desert landscape, and there's
lots of spears sticking up out of the sand with
the pointy bits up in the air, so they clearly

(40:53):
weren't thrown because that the pointy bits would be down
in the sand. I'm not sure what's going on, but
it's a nifty poster.

Speaker 1 (41:00):
Awesome. He also got a new trailer. I watched the
first two seasons. I can explain it better than most
of my friends and what happened, And I've never read
the books. But I also am not like chomping at
the bit to c season three, Doctor Who the Christmas
Special came out with a trailer. The trailer looks great.
It's got a lot of fun actors, including Nikola Coughlin

(41:21):
in it. It looks kind of like a fun zadied
Whibbly wobbly sort of an episode. However, there are some
I don't know if you would call them internet trolls,
because I kind of vaguely had this thought too. There
are some people who are like, oh my gosh, the
doctor's crying again, because he's cried almost every episode and
that makes it lose its poignancy. And I kind of

(41:42):
feel the same way. But also, if the actor wants
to cry, let him cry. Maybe I'm just jelly.

Speaker 2 (41:48):
Yeah, So this is what you were talking about when
we were having that discussion about crying versus trying to
look like you're holding back tears. All right, last one,
Molana two and Wicked pulled a heck of a cop
at the box office this past weekend and had an
assist from Gladiator too, which made the Thanksgiving holiday weekend
take a really firm one for the film industry, and

(42:10):
it gave them something to be thankful for. Domestic revenue
topped four hundred and twenty five million dollars that breaks
even pre COVID records for the Thanksgiving holiday weekend box
office year over year. However, revenues are still down for
the film industry. There is some hope that the last
push through December will close the gap. Who knows, maybe

(42:33):
Craven the Hunter will do it.

Speaker 1 (42:35):
Yeah. I actually got really irritated at a news article
online because they were like the they titled it this
is clickbaity headlines. I hate they titled it the animation
industry is in trouble. But the article was about how
well like recent animation stuff has done at the box office,

(42:55):
and so I was like, you're just being a butt.

Speaker 2 (42:59):
Yeah, like your story is literally saying the opposite of
what your headline claims.

Speaker 1 (43:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (43:05):
Oh.

Speaker 1 (43:05):
And then Jenna Ortego walks off the set of Wednesday,
and the story was because they've.

Speaker 2 (43:10):
Wrapped Yeah, because if she's stayed there, they'd be like,
what's going on? I got nowhere else to go.

Speaker 1 (43:18):
We can't pay you for staying on set when we
aren't filming.

Speaker 2 (43:22):
Now, this isn't a real house. You need to leave,
all right. So now let's talk about some of the
stuff that's coming out next year. This is not an
exhaustive list. It's a long one, but it doesn't have
everything on it. And I just want to get from
Ariel what she thinks and whether she's excited or not.
Some of these are going to be things that will
be like a second or third or whatever season of

(43:44):
a show, and if you haven't watched them, that's totally legit.
I think the first one's going to be that case,
which is I did these by chronological order, with all
the t b D like the ones that haven't yet
been slated at the end. So at the beginning. We've
got Severance season two on Apple TV that comes out
January seventeenth, twenty twenty five.

Speaker 1 (44:05):
I'm excited to watch the first season of that so
I can be excited for the second season.

Speaker 2 (44:09):
I loved the show. I loved it. It is weird.
It is a weird show. It doesn't make a whole
lot of sense. If I'm being totally honest. It's got
sort of a dreamlike quality to it. And I am
so excited to finally see the second season.

Speaker 1 (44:27):
I was super I watched all of legions so I
can do weird dream.

Speaker 2 (44:31):
Like Yeah, this one just well, anyway, you'll you'll have
to we'll have to talk about it after you've seen
it and kind of get your thoughts on it. Okay,
how about Your Friendly neighborhood spider Man, which comes out
January twenty ninth, twenty twenty five. This is an animated series.

Speaker 1 (44:46):
Yes, yes, very much. I have live. Unlike a lot
of series where the ogs were more my thing, Spider
Man is one where the more stuff they come out
with the better.

Speaker 2 (44:59):
Again, yeah, animated, as I understand it this version. Spider
Man's mentor is Norman Osborne in this one. It's like
an alternate because one of the multiverse kind of things.
Which that's an interesting take, all right. How about Captain
America Brave New World comes out Valentine's Day?

Speaker 1 (45:20):
Well, talk about the second trailer. I want to be
excited about it. The tonal shift, even within the trailer
kind of is jarring to me.

Speaker 2 (45:31):
I'm excited about it because it's making me think Captain
America The Winter Soldier like. It's given me feels that
are similar to what that movie was all about. And
that's my That's still I think my favorite. That might
still be my favorite Marvel film. I'd really have to
think about it, but it might be still my favorite.

(45:52):
So I'm hopeful that this will be in that same category.
How about Paddington in Peru also comes out Valentine's.

Speaker 1 (45:58):
Day, Yes, but I won't see it in theaters.

Speaker 2 (46:03):
Okay, so then we know that if you're going to
a movie on Valentine's Day, it's going to be Captain America.

Speaker 1 (46:08):
Okay, so oh, most definitely, if I go to a
movie on Valentine's Day, it's going to be Captain America.
That feels so romantic.

Speaker 2 (46:15):
Yeah, yeah, You're going to just be looking at at
Captain America and the Red Hulk going kiss, kiss kiss.

Speaker 1 (46:22):
I guess that's the problem for me is the first
half of the trailer. We'll talk about it now because
you asked that'll cut back on later stuff. The first
half of the trailer feels more like Jack Ryan, and
then the second half feels like they threw in a
third act giant villain again.

Speaker 2 (46:42):
Which could be the case. Like we've talked about this
a lot about how antagonists and villains in Marvel have
been consistently one of their weakest efforts. Right, There's only
a few villains who have really stood apart and like
kill My being one of them, for example, But a
lot of the villains end up being essentially a copy

(47:06):
of whoever the hero is but bad. How about the
Snow White live action film which comes out March twenty First,
we have a trailer about this too that we'll talk about.

Speaker 1 (47:18):
Yeah, I'll just say no, I'm not excited about that.
We too want to talk about the trailer.

Speaker 2 (47:22):
I will also say no, I'm not excited, and yes,
we will talk about this, because why are you making
new songs? All right?

Speaker 1 (47:29):
No, that's that's not my problem with it.

Speaker 2 (47:31):
But also yes, it's it's just one of many new
problems I have with it. But honestly, one of my
problems not the casting. That's not my issue. Well maybe
maybe Galgadot for the Evil Queen, but that's that's not
our here there. Okay, how about Daredevil Born Again that
comes out March twenty. Okay, you're excited for that one? Yes, gottcha.

Speaker 1 (47:54):
Even the bad seasons of Daredevil I enjoyed on Netflix.

Speaker 2 (47:56):
So yeah, I still need to watch season three. I
realize I had watched the first two, but I never
watched the third one, so I need to do that.

Speaker 1 (48:04):
So Daredevil, Oh sorry, not Daredevil, Deadpool and Wolverine. The
spoiler if you haven't watched it yet, tune out for
the next ten seconds. I think did better with elektra
than season three of Daredevil, but that's okay.

Speaker 2 (48:21):
All right, well, all right, how about a Minecraft movie
April fourth, twenty twenty five.

Speaker 1 (48:27):
Now we'll talk about that trailer too, But now I'm
not super.

Speaker 2 (48:30):
Yeah, this is more than that was the no answers
are giving you prequel or a prelude to our discussion
about these trailers when we get into them. All right,
how about and or season two April twenty second.

Speaker 1 (48:46):
I have to finish season one.

Speaker 2 (48:47):
I haven't watched it, so I got burnt out on
Star Wars.

Speaker 1 (48:52):
Later in the season, it does get better as things
start to move, Like there was one or two episodes
on these are really good, and now I'm like, eh,
I forgot that I need to finish. I was like,
I'm five episodes in and I'm done now, No, I
thought I was done. If I was done with it,
I'd be like, hey, cot there, yeah, okay.

Speaker 2 (49:10):
How about Thunderbolts May fifth? Eh, really, I might be
a little marveled out, that's fair. That's how I am
with Star Wars. But I say Thunderbolts I felt was
one of the stronger Like the most recent Thunderbolts trailer,
I feel is one of the stronger trailers that Marvel

(49:30):
has put out recently I felt I do feel met
about a different Marvel property that's on this list.

Speaker 1 (49:37):
I mean, so when Marvel and Dizzy brought out the
trailer of all the Marvel stuff coming out, I was
pretty excited about a lot of it. Thunderbolts looks fine.
I love much of the casting. I just the story
hasn't grabbed me yet, and I'm sure, like Wicked and
many other things, once I watch it, I will quite
enjoy it.

Speaker 2 (49:56):
Yeah, all right, Well how about the live action Lelo
and Stitch which comes out May.

Speaker 1 (50:02):
Yes? Interesting, Yeah, I really changed my tune on this one.

Speaker 2 (50:07):
Yeah, I think my tune. My tune is still is
still the meh, But I mean.

Speaker 1 (50:12):
I don't think it's necessary, but I think it'll it'll
land better for me than a lot of the live
action action.

Speaker 2 (50:19):
Okay, yeah, because like I am really not excited about
live action Mowana, let me tell you I'm not.

Speaker 1 (50:25):
But the little the actor, the actor who plays Lelo
is so precociously cool.

Speaker 2 (50:34):
Okay, Well, maybe I just need to take another look
at the trailer and have my heart melt like honestly.

Speaker 1 (50:40):
She's not in the teaser, she's it's interviews.

Speaker 2 (50:43):
I've seen on some gotcha, Yeah, because the teasers just
him smashing a sand castle, right, yeah, And of course,
like Stitch in the live action Lelo and Stitch looks
more or less like Stitch from the animated because I
mean he's a CGI character. He's just a CGI version
of an animated character.

Speaker 1 (50:59):
So yeah, but I well, we can talk about it
now and take it out of our lineup if you want.
It's in our lineup. Okay, So the leload Stitches or
he just he smashes a sand castle that looks like
the Disney Castle and then he licks the screen. I
think it works because I'm going to leave it in
our lineup for show notes, but we can skip it

(51:19):
when we get there. I think it works because Stitch
is not a lion or a poodle or a human
being that has to realistically evoke realism. It's it's already
a made up creature. So yeah, I think that hit

(51:41):
him and CGI works a heck of a lot better
than a lot of their other stuff.

Speaker 2 (51:44):
Right where you talk about the live action Lion King
and you're like, what's live action about this? Shot? It?
You shot it against actual settings, but all the characters
are computer animated.

Speaker 1 (51:55):
And maybe because maybe because I haven't seen Stitch interact
with people, this is the reason. But it's not giving
me Uncanny Valley again, because what is a stitch actually
supposed to look like?

Speaker 2 (52:09):
Yeah, it'll be the question will be how realistic does
that interaction look once we get to that those clips,
because like, like I think back to who framed Roger
Rabbit and it was phenomenal, what a good job they
did making the rabbit appear to have a physical presence
in the environment. But then there are other ones where

(52:30):
like it's human beings interacting with cartoons and you never
get the sense that these two things were literally in
the same space at the same time.

Speaker 1 (52:39):
Yeah, heck, half the time it's a superhero jumping up
a building wall and it doesn't look like he's actually
interacting with a building wall.

Speaker 2 (52:45):
Craven oh yeah, oh yeah. Or the end of every
Marvel movie, right like once you get to the big
fight at the end, it just becomes a PlayStation game. Yeah,
all right, Well, how about this one Mission Impossible the
final Reckoning comes up May twenty third. Yeah, same, I
haven't seen the other ones.

Speaker 1 (53:03):
Yeah, I've seen like two mission impossibles, not the first two.

Speaker 2 (53:07):
I've seen the first one, and I've seen one of
the brad Bird ones, which I thought was quite good.
But I do feel that all the Mission Impossible movies
typically have the same plot, which is, someone else, either
within our own organization or a similar US organization, is
trying to kill us. That's who the bad guy is.

(53:28):
It's our own side spoiler. That's like for every mission,
to the point where you're like, why do we even
have these organizations? All they're doing is trying to kill
each other. How about Karate Kid Legends?

Speaker 1 (53:41):
Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.

Speaker 2 (53:44):
Ralph Maccio's in that one.

Speaker 1 (53:46):
Even if I in, so is Shiaki Chan. Even if
I weren't excited about this, I would have to be
excited about this. But I am genuinely excited about it.

Speaker 2 (53:54):
Okay, well that made sense. How about how about Alio
the next Pixar film June thirteenth.

Speaker 1 (54:01):
I think it looks really cute.

Speaker 2 (54:03):
It does look really cute. That's the one where a
little kid gets abducted by aliens who then mistakenly believe
him to be a representative of all of Earth.

Speaker 1 (54:11):
I shared the trailer with one of my friends and
they said, oh, that could be irritating or upsetting or
done poorly if they don't lean on something the right way.
And I don't know what they were talking about, because
it just looks adorable to me.

Speaker 2 (54:22):
Yeah, maybe they're just talking about how child abduction in
general is a tough Maybe. I'm I'm like, I've seen
so many movies that start with a kid getting accidentally
snatched up, and I'm like, that's like a standard of
the Navigator. Yeah, yeah, I drawn to this all right.
How about How to Train Your Dragon the live action

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film in June thirteenth.

Speaker 1 (54:47):
It looks for a shot for shot remake. It looks
beauty again. It looks beautifully done in a way that
it doesn't give me too much Uncanny Valley, and we
do get to see the people and the dragons interact.
I think the casting is exceptional, don't. I'm torn on
this one because I think it looks really pretty and
I think that everybody's investment and love for the property

(55:10):
that is involved in it really helps me like that
that provides excitement, right, But yeah, I like the original movie,
but I've seen the original movie.

Speaker 2 (55:18):
So yeah, this doesn't look like it does anything new
with the material. Like you said, it looks it looks
shot for shot the same. And that's the issue I have.
It's like, why would I see Gus Van santz Psycho film,
which is a shot for shot remake of the Hitchcock film.
I could just watch the Hitchcock film.

Speaker 1 (55:39):
Yeah. Now, like again, maybe that's the first trailer. Maybe
the first trailer is to bring in the people who
love the original property. You know a lot of kids
will see that and go I love How to Train
Your Dragon, my nieces and my niece and nephews, for example.
Maybe the second trailer will show that they've brought something
new in.

Speaker 2 (55:56):
Yeah. I think maybe the second trailer will convince people
to buy ticket to Orlando's Epic Universe so they can
go ride all the How to Train Your Dragon ride. There.

Speaker 1 (56:05):
There's a water ride in Universal does water ride's the best?

Speaker 2 (56:09):
There's a water ride, there's a roller coaster, and there's
a drag a flying dragon ride.

Speaker 1 (56:14):
There's also a dragon drone which is really cool. Yeah,
it doesn't break.

Speaker 2 (56:18):
Down, y'all. I gotta tell you, I'm looking forward to
going to Epic Universe as long as I can avoid
the Harry Potter stuff.

Speaker 1 (56:30):
Yes, yes, Amen, All right.

Speaker 2 (56:33):
How about twenty eight years later June twentieth zombie movie.

Speaker 1 (56:38):
I mean, I liked twenty eight Days and twenty I
liked twenty eight Days Later a lot because I thought
it was more suspenseful than horrific for the most part.

Speaker 2 (56:48):
Really really scary movie though.

Speaker 1 (56:50):
Yeah, really scary, but the kind of scary that I
can do.

Speaker 2 (56:54):
Also, that was the movie that introduced me to Killian Murphy,
and holy cow, that guy is a phenomenal actor.

Speaker 1 (57:00):
Really is. Wasn't Christopher Ergleston also in that?

Speaker 2 (57:03):
He was in Children of Men? The movie that you
love so much.

Speaker 1 (57:07):
Was Christopher Egleston and Children of Men? Yeah, I have
blocked that out of my memory. Hold on, he was,
like I thought he was in either twenty seven, twenty
eight days or twenty eight weeks later.

Speaker 2 (57:21):
Now he might be in He might be in twenty
eight weeks later.

Speaker 1 (57:25):
I have to.

Speaker 2 (57:27):
I'm wrong though. I'm wrong though, because I'm mixing. I'm
mixing him up with Clive Owen.

Speaker 1 (57:31):
So okay, yeah, I would saying he was not in
twenty he was not in Children of Men? He was, however,
in twenty eight Days Later?

Speaker 2 (57:38):
Was he was he the soldier?

Speaker 1 (57:40):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (57:41):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah Okay, this is the reason where
this is where we once again gently remind our listeners
that I did have a near stroke this year and
my brains are all messed up.

Speaker 1 (57:54):
No, that's look, I have no excuse, and I'm just
as bad. Yeah. I like twenty eight days later. I
think I enjoyed twenty eight weeks later, but I don't
remember much about it, so I haven't seen enough about
twenty eight years later. But if it's as good as
the first two, I will enjoy it.

Speaker 2 (58:10):
Cool. How about iron Heart? This is the other Marvel
Disney Plus series about Rary Williams.

Speaker 1 (58:19):
Yeah, yeah, what.

Speaker 2 (58:21):
If I were to tell you Sasha Baron Cohen is
in this series, and he's rumored to play a certain
character who's been teased in two other Disney Plus series
and became an obsessive part of fandom, and maybe that's
who he's playing.

Speaker 1 (58:41):
He's playing.

Speaker 2 (58:43):
Mephisto.

Speaker 1 (58:46):
He's playing magical mister Mistopheles.

Speaker 2 (58:49):
That's the rumor is he's Mephisto, but there's no there's
no confirmation on that. I think also it would be
weird that that would be iron Heart where he shows
up as Mephisto.

Speaker 1 (58:59):
I think that would be good casting from a fisto.
I don't like Borat, but he was really good in Limis.
But I again weird for Ironheart. I think the actress
is fine in that I think I think that that
character development was so rushed in Black Panther two, which
was I didn't dislike Black Panther two. I'm in the

(59:20):
minority of that. I thought it was a perfectly fine movie.
I just I felt like it wasn't the strongest introduction
for the character. So they've got a little bit of
ground to recover.

Speaker 2 (59:29):
Yeah, especially since it's been so long since Wakanda Forever.
Right Like, if Ironheart had come out six months nine
months after Wakanda Forever, then that might have been really
great timing. But this, this feels like they've lost a
lot of momentum.

Speaker 1 (59:45):
Honestly, I think it, and I realized that this maybe
couldn't have happened, But I think iron not should have
come out beforehand.

Speaker 2 (59:52):
Yeah, maybe, because that way you wouldn't be introducing a
brand new hero character at the same time you're introducing
a new antagonist and also having to establish a new
Black Panther. All right, Well, how about Megan two point
zero June twenty seventh. Oh, come on, not even if
she does another viral TikTok dance.

Speaker 1 (01:00:14):
I that's the only thing I've seen of Meghan.

Speaker 2 (01:00:17):
Yeah, it's really the only thing worth seeing a Meghan
in my opinion, I've seen the movie. I'm like, this
is fine. It's a it's a very by the numbers
horror movie. Like it doesn't do anything surprising that dance,
which by the way, makes no sense in the context
of the movie. There's no reason for her to do it, Like,
it literally makes no sense. It's just done to be

(01:00:38):
a marketing thing. But it was the most effective moment
in that film.

Speaker 1 (01:00:42):
There are other movies about Ai that hit a similar
vein that I have been more excited for. Can I
name any of them at this exact moment?

Speaker 2 (01:00:50):
And no. If you want to see a movie that
has a very similar energy to Megan but I think
is a better movie, go see Annabelle okay or Abigail
Abigail's whichever one's thought about the little girl who's a vampire.

Speaker 1 (01:01:06):
Yeah, yeah, it's Abigail's.

Speaker 2 (01:01:08):
Annabel's the doll. Annabel's the doll. See here's the thing, guys.
Earlier this year, I don't know if you know this,
but I had my brain strampled.

Speaker 1 (01:01:16):
John, you already told us that.

Speaker 2 (01:01:18):
Shoot, well here's the reason I keep telling you that.
So earlier this year, I had my brain scrambled.

Speaker 1 (01:01:23):
Okay, a little bit of ASMR that people probably will hate.

Speaker 2 (01:01:25):
You've already told us that. Fair enough.

Speaker 1 (01:01:29):
No, it was funny because I was watching After Midnight
last night with Oscar Montoya and I can't remember her name,
and I can't remember Chris Flumming, and one of the
opening remarks was it was an old episode. One of
the opening remarks was about how you don't want They
were talking about Elon Musk's androids.

Speaker 2 (01:01:48):
Oh yeah, the robots, Yeah, the robots.

Speaker 1 (01:01:51):
Yes, yeah, And they were talking about how like you
don't want kids to become attached to that, and they
used Megan as a reference, and I'm like, no, no,
I didn't watch Megan, but I did really get attached
to the Electric Grandmother.

Speaker 2 (01:02:02):
So, which, by the way, still to me is a
creepy little made for TV movie.

Speaker 1 (01:02:09):
It is. It is heartfelt but also incredibly creepy. Yeah,
like incredibly it's scary at points.

Speaker 2 (01:02:15):
Lightly it kind of makes me miss that era where
children's programming could be kind of scary at times, Like
I like, I like children's programming that has a bit
of an edge and doesn't treat children like they are
precious little fabrige eggs and if you do anything that
is remotely tense, there will they'll they'll just crumble into

(01:02:39):
a billion pieces. Because I'm proof that doesn't happen.

Speaker 1 (01:02:43):
It was. It was scary at points because you didn't
know what was going to happen, and also like there
were some some sad bits too, but it wasn't sinister ever.

Speaker 2 (01:02:51):
No, the unsettling, I think is a good word for
some of it. Yeah. That was one of my favorite
made for TV movies as a kid. Well, okay, let's
get back to our list. How about Jurassic World Rebirth
on July second.

Speaker 1 (01:03:05):
Yeah, but I feel like I need to watch the.

Speaker 2 (01:03:06):
First one first, don't you mean the first few? Yeah?
I have more than one Jurassic worlds. Yes, there's like three.

Speaker 1 (01:03:15):
So I thought Rebirth was the cartoon about the kids
who got left on the island.

Speaker 2 (01:03:19):
And this is Jurassic World. Rebirth is a new live
action Jurassic World movie. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:03:24):
Nope, I take it back. Nope.

Speaker 2 (01:03:26):
Yeah, I'm same here, all right. How about Superman July eleventh, Yes, yeah, tentative,
Yes for me. I mean, obviously we haven't seen any
trailers or anything, but I trust James Gunn, so I do.

Speaker 1 (01:03:44):
I it'll be interesting because uh Snyder's version in Man
of Steel was this nice guy who kind of fell
into the cynicism of the world, right, which is not
super Superman. James Gunn still has a cynical world, but
he wants Superman to be the hero. I think the
cast is phenomenal. They are introducing a lot of characters,
which I felt like in Black Adam and Suicide Squad

(01:04:06):
was a little rough, but James Gunn has done that
well before. And then there are personal reasons I can't
talk about that. I want to see it.

Speaker 2 (01:04:14):
So so Ariel knows people who are in the movie,
is what she said. Okay, so probably the I mean, yes,
that's what it means.

Speaker 1 (01:04:23):
I mean, I certainly know in the movie. Because we
live in Atlanta, I know a lot of actors.

Speaker 2 (01:04:30):
She may know victims three through seventeen. We don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:04:33):
That is entirely possible.

Speaker 2 (01:04:37):
Yeah, we're not saying that she knows Superman's best buddy
or anything. I don't.

Speaker 1 (01:04:42):
I don't and if I did, I wouldn't know.

Speaker 2 (01:04:45):
And you know, as much as I advocated for Timblet
to be cast as Crypto, it didn't happen. So he's
not Superman's dog.

Speaker 1 (01:04:54):
I wanted to be Lex Luthor, but you have to
shave your head and I refuse.

Speaker 2 (01:04:58):
Yeah, and plus, it was conflicting your desire to be
the thing, which.

Speaker 1 (01:05:01):
Is a totally different I would rather be the thing.

Speaker 2 (01:05:05):
Which which we already know you're not. So yeah, all right.
How about how about the Smurfs movie comes out July eighteenth? Okay,
how about how about the Fantastic Four First Steps? That's
July twenty fifth. By the way, how about same for
both smurf I don't care about this smurst movie. I

(01:05:27):
obviously am very curious about the Fantastic Four, even though
it's gonna have like multiverse energy going on. We already
know that because it's set in a alternate version of
Earth from the rest of the Marvel films. Presumably they
get pulled over into the main version of the Marvel
Earth by the end of it. Maybe that's what their

(01:05:50):
first steps are. It's their first steps into the.

Speaker 1 (01:05:52):
New I love the pleasant Ville vibes that they're toying with.

Speaker 2 (01:05:56):
So yeah, I can't wait to see a trailer. Yeah,
is what comes down to. How about the Naked Gun reboot?
When leam Neeson on August first.

Speaker 1 (01:06:09):
Hmm, undecided, fair enough. I like, I was never a
huge fun of the naked fan of the Naked Gun movies.
There there is a low level of Hey, I know
this is happening before other people, before it's made the
news channels. It makes me a little bit excited about it.

Speaker 2 (01:06:29):
So I I loved a Police Squad, which was the
TV series that inspired that that came out before Naked Gun.
Did same characters, same team that made it. That series
to me was brilliant. It also didn't last very long
at all. There's like, I don't know, like six episodes
or something. I don't know how I feel about this.

(01:06:53):
Then again, Leslie Nielsen was known as a dramatic actor
rather than a comedic actor before he started doing stuff
like Police Squad and Make a Gun an Airplane. So
maybe maybe it'll be great, but I'll I'll need to
see more before I can make a call. Meanwhile, Ariel's
seeing that I'm being beamed into utter space because sunlight.

(01:07:16):
Sunlight is coming through my window.

Speaker 1 (01:07:18):
It's fine, you're You're about to become the thing, and
I'm gonna be incredibly jealous.

Speaker 2 (01:07:22):
I thought I was becoming like a jj Abrams Star
Trek movie from Lenz Flair.

Speaker 1 (01:07:27):
I mean, maybe are you made of red matter?

Speaker 2 (01:07:31):
I mean, who knows what? How how about Eyes of Wakanda,
this is the animated series on Disney Plus. Okay, that's
August sixth when that comes out. How about Marvel Zombies,
which comes out October third?

Speaker 1 (01:07:46):
Undecided?

Speaker 2 (01:07:47):
I'm very excited for Marvel Zombies.

Speaker 1 (01:07:50):
It's the two Marvel Zombies episodes we've gotten within what
If have been very good. Yeah, I think it's two,
but but I don't know if I need an entire
series of it fair enough, howeverriendly.

Speaker 2 (01:08:04):
How about tron Aries, which is supposed to come out
October tenth me I'm curious. It's been enough time since
Tron Legacy that I've forgotten how boring that movie is
that I might be able to be able to watch it.
I love moments in tron Legacy. There are moments in
that movie that are some of my favorite imagery, and

(01:08:28):
like Michael Shehan's performance as like the club owner in
Tron Legacy is amazing, very David Bowie love that, But
then the rest of that movie is just kind of
I mean, the original Tron is also a bit of
a slog if we're being honest.

Speaker 1 (01:08:44):
But yeah, I mean, so the problem is I saw
Tron Legacy. Well, first of all, it was over ten
years ago, but I saw it the night before I
got on a Joco cruise, so it kind of got overshadowed.

Speaker 2 (01:08:55):
Ah, gotcha, how about get back to my list? Predator
bad Lands November seven.

Speaker 1 (01:09:03):
Sure, I still have to see Prey, but yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:09:06):
I need to see Prey too. Honestly, there are more
Predator movies that I have not seen than there are
that I have seen, because I've only seen the first
two and I've only seen the second one once.

Speaker 1 (01:09:19):
They do not all hold up at all. But Pray
apparently was very good. Or Eat Love Predator, is it right?

Speaker 2 (01:09:28):
Or Poka Predator yeah, which sounds like a game you
find at a carnival that you should not play. Hey,
you want to come play Poka Predator? You know what?
I like my limbs where they are, I will stay away.

Speaker 1 (01:09:41):
I'm good.

Speaker 2 (01:09:42):
How about Wicked Part two November twenty First, I know.

Speaker 1 (01:09:49):
More than I was, but still less than to see
Wicked Part one, just because I know how it kind
of ends.

Speaker 2 (01:09:56):
Also, I mean, we've talked about this. I've talked about
this times. If you are familiar with the musical, there
is no denying that all the real bangers, the really
memorable songs are all on the front half of Wicked.

Speaker 1 (01:10:10):
There's that love songs in the second.

Speaker 2 (01:10:12):
Half, Yeah, that no one remembers the name of except
for like Diehard theater kids.

Speaker 1 (01:10:18):
It's a good song, though good.

Speaker 2 (01:10:20):
But it doesn't it doesn't have the stickiness of like
popular or low or what is this feeling? Or dancing
through life?

Speaker 1 (01:10:28):
So the problem is that spoiler again for people who
listen who haven't read the book, the book has a
very sad ending.

Speaker 2 (01:10:37):
The book is far more cynical than the musical is.

Speaker 1 (01:10:41):
The musical still doesn't have the happiest of endings in
my opinion, And there's one character that doesn't have a
happy ending who is one of my more favorite characters.

Speaker 2 (01:10:52):
If you're talking about the sister, we know she doesn't
have a happy ending. She's killed by a house dropped
on her.

Speaker 1 (01:10:58):
I'm talking about bach.

Speaker 2 (01:11:00):
Oh no, his his ending's fine. We know what happens
to him at the end of Wizard of Oz. He's good,
is he though? Yeah, yeah, he's fine. He's fine. It's
not happy, but okay, I mean better than the alternative? Uh?

Speaker 1 (01:11:17):
True?

Speaker 2 (01:11:17):
That is true. How about Zuotopia two, which comes out
November twenty sixth, Not interested? Wow, that was quick.

Speaker 1 (01:11:24):
I liked the first one. I don't need a second one.

Speaker 2 (01:11:27):
I just rewatched the first one a couple of weeks ago.
I was on the Disney Cruise and I watched it
while on the Disney Cruise, And yeah, that movie is.
That movie has got a lot of cute parts in
it still kind of a weird like message going on
through the whole thing. It flips around a lot. It

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makes me wonder what the point of Zootopia two will be.

Speaker 1 (01:11:53):
Yeah, I just I just personally didn't like I liked
the characters, but I didn't connect with any of them
enough to want to know where I went from there.

Speaker 2 (01:12:01):
Yeah. Well, at least it's not a movie about the
sloth character, because that would last seventeen hours. All right.
How about the wonder Man series, which comes out Okay,
you're interested in that, Yes, even though it's not Nathan
Fillion playing the main character.

Speaker 1 (01:12:14):
Oh more, because it's not Nathan Phillian playing the no
shade to Nathan Fillion, but uh yeah, I like. I
like when they bring in not as used actors.

Speaker 2 (01:12:26):
Yeah, the there is. There is some early footage stuff
for this. We also get the return of Ben Kingsley
as Trevor Slattery, the character from Iron Man.

Speaker 1 (01:12:38):
Yeah, and also from Shaunch.

Speaker 2 (01:12:40):
And Shaun che Yeah. So he's like, I wish that
Madison would become the new Trevor right and start showing
up in More. Like you just get Madison with two
inins and a y, but it's not where you think
showing up and like all sorts of stuff. So here's
hoping that she does. Yeah, I'm holding out hope. All right.
How about Avatar Fire and Ash December nineteenth. No, Yeah,

(01:13:05):
have you seen any of the Avatar movies?

Speaker 1 (01:13:08):
I saw the first one a whole bunch because I
saw it with multiple people.

Speaker 2 (01:13:12):
Huh.

Speaker 1 (01:13:13):
I love the flights of passage righte Animal Kingdom. I
just reaffirmed that last month.

Speaker 2 (01:13:18):
That's the closest I've come to seeing an Avatar movie
is the Flights of Passage. Right, I haven't seen any
of the Avatar movies. Such a good ride. The ride
is very well done, but I feel absolutely no connection
with the environment or the characters, like none of them
mean anything to me. Okay, we have now reached into
the section where I've got some series, but they aren't

(01:13:41):
specifically slated yet, so some of them may get slipped
into late twenty twenty five, maybe even twenty twenty six.
But here we go. Stranger Thing season five, Yes, cool,
I still haven't seen anything after the first season. Black
Mirror season seven.

Speaker 1 (01:13:59):
Okay, I haven't seen anything past the second episode, and
I skipped the first.

Speaker 2 (01:14:04):
Yeah, that first episode is a doozy Okay, No, I
don't recommend it. It really upset me. All right. Silo
season two.

Speaker 1 (01:14:12):
I haven't watched season one.

Speaker 2 (01:14:14):
I hear it's good, but I haven't watched it either.
Sandman season two No, No, okay, Sandman, I fell off
of I didn't finish it. I should finish it. I
watched probably six or seven episodes, but I didn't get
all the way through the first season.

Speaker 1 (01:14:31):
There were two episodes I absolutely loved, and I think
book has both kind of dealt with death the character, yeah,
who is by far the strongest character in the series.

Speaker 2 (01:14:43):
Yeah, it's same is true in the comic book, by
the way.

Speaker 1 (01:14:46):
Yeah, yeah, and then and then I liked, but I
liked Dead Boy Detectives better.

Speaker 2 (01:14:52):
Okay, how about Fallout season two?

Speaker 1 (01:14:55):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (01:14:56):
Right, very excited for that one, especially if they end
up going to New Vegas. That would be great. All right,
Wednesday season two, maybe, maybe that's fair. Last of Us
season two, Yes, this one's a tough one for me now.

Speaker 1 (01:15:12):
Yes, No, I love the first season exception of that
one episode so much.

Speaker 2 (01:15:16):
Yes, the cannibal episode, that's the one that you had
trouble with, Yeah, which is understandable. There's not just cannibalism,
but also like sexual assault. Yeah, spoiler alert if you
haven't seen The Last of U season one. That's a great,
great series, Like it is heavy as hell, but the
there were some incredible surprises in that show that still,

(01:15:42):
to me mark like a high watermark for television as
an art form that I don't think most other shows
even come close to.

Speaker 1 (01:15:52):
I fully agree, And at least season one put in
enough moments of human connection that really really one gave
you a chance to breathe within the series and also
really made you more invested in the story and the
characters than some other post apocalyptic shows have done.

Speaker 2 (01:16:12):
Totally okay, And finally, we have Welcome to Derry, which
would be a Stephen King mini series that explores the
history of the town Dry which is the setting for it.

Speaker 1 (01:16:26):
I really liked season one of Castle Rock, so.

Speaker 2 (01:16:29):
Yes, interesting. I don't know that I care to learn
anything more about the history of penny Wise. I think
I'm cool.

Speaker 1 (01:16:37):
Yeah, I don't penny Wise prequel I am not into,
but I really liked Castle Rock, so if they could
do something similar, I'd be for it.

Speaker 2 (01:16:44):
Yeah. Castle Rock For those who do not know, Castle
Rock was a fictional town in Stephen King's writings, and
I say was because famously in his novel Needful Things,
he blowed it up real good and on like he
was like destroying the town that he had been using
as a setting for multiple books. I want to say

(01:17:08):
Koo Joe was set in Castle Rock, and several other
stories and novels were set there. But yeah, Needful Things,
the town destroys itself. Spoiler. If you haven't read Needful Things,
a book that's like forty years old. But yeah, interesting,
I don't know. I guess I'll have to wait a

(01:17:28):
little bit longer to see more about Welcome to Darry
before I make a determination about whether or not I
want to see it. All right, those are all the
series and movies that I had made note of. Again,
not an exhaustive list. There are other ones out there
that didn't touch on, but just to kind of get
a temperature check of where we are. The biggest feeling

(01:17:49):
I came away with is, holy crap, a lot of
stuff is coming out next year.

Speaker 1 (01:17:54):
Yeah, and I got to catch up on a lot
of stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:17:56):
Still, I know it's kind of like it kind of
takes a little steam out of my engine, if I'm
being honest, because I'm just like, oh my gosh, look
at all the things I need. It's a great problem
to have. Look at all the entertainment I have to
get through.

Speaker 1 (01:18:11):
Yeah, yeah, No, I love it, you know, from an
acting standpoint, obviously, I love that there's a lot of stuff.
I I guess this kind of ages me, but I
miss the era of like new show season.

Speaker 2 (01:18:26):
Like in September or whatever.

Speaker 1 (01:18:28):
Yeah, or where everything had a time slot so you
didn't you could make time for more things.

Speaker 2 (01:18:35):
Yeah, like there is something to say. I mean, honestly,
there's some shows that have chosen to publish week to
week that I got kind of into the habit of
watching them when they were coming out as if it
were broadcast television. Agatha All Along was like that for me,
Like I was watching that essentially at nine pm Eastern
when as soon as it went live.

Speaker 1 (01:18:55):
Yeah, And I have friends who hate that because they
consume media in a bingeful way, and I understand that.
And you know, if a show doesn't get finished, so
they'd watch an episode or two like it forget about
it because they liked bin shows, and then the show
would get canceled because.

Speaker 2 (01:19:10):
They because they because they didn't bother to watch the
show that they loved, and they killed it, is what
you're saying.

Speaker 1 (01:19:16):
Yeah, because they forgot about it and then they watched
it after that month window to determine whether a show's
going to succeed or not, and I've done that too,
So this is not shade to any of them. It's
just again why the streaming models are still struggling to
find their footing.

Speaker 2 (01:19:32):
I tried to do that with New Girl, but they
kept making them I know. All right, Well, let's talk
about some of the stuff that we have in our
actual lineup now, some of which we've already touched on.
But first up is, they did release the first eight
minutes of Craven the Hunter. That's part of the Spider

(01:19:53):
Man Extended Cinematic Universe. It is also, you know, a
movie that Ariel and I I have both been rather
skeptical about that. We like the people who are in it,
we like the people who are involved with it, but
and it didn't. It wasn't coming across as cringey as
Madam Webb or Morbius, but it also didn't particularly look great.

(01:20:16):
Did those first eight minutes change your mind in any way?

Speaker 1 (01:20:21):
I was originally going to watch the first eight minutes
at two time speed for comedy sake.

Speaker 2 (01:20:26):
So that you could watch the first four minutes.

Speaker 1 (01:20:28):
Yeah, I didn't. I did slow it down. It was
better than the stuff I've seen from Morbus and Madam Webb.
I don't understand why Aaron Taylor Johnson took his shirt off.

Speaker 2 (01:20:44):
In the very cold to show to show his physique.
Obviously obviously like there's no there's no in story explanation.
The story is entirely we have to show how jacked
this guy got.

Speaker 1 (01:20:58):
For the part, It's fine, it felt the first state
minutes felt nondescript.

Speaker 2 (01:21:03):
I I mean, it's obviously meant to show you, Hey,
this guy is has superhuman strength and speed and agility,
and he also has some sort of warrior code where
he's going after particularly bad people, so much so that
he's willing to get himself incarcerated in a maximum security prison.

(01:21:28):
And I guess, what's supposed to be Soviet Russia. I mean,
maybe it's just supposed to be Russia. But here's what
made me laugh, Ariel. So you know, there's this music
that starts playing at the beginning of the movie, and
it's a male chorus and they're singing in Russian. Right,
do you know where that's from? Because I do no.

(01:21:50):
So as soon as the music starts, I recognize it
and I look at I go, what the heck? They
literally just lifted the theme to The Hunt for Red October.
This is not a Russian hymn. It's not a Russian
like a traditional Russian song. This was a song that

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was composed for the film The Hunt for Red October
and played as like it's called the Hymn to the
Red October, and I'm like, you took a different movies
essentially theme song and put it at the beginning of
your movie. And it's not in an attempt to draw

(01:22:32):
any kind of parallel with The Hunt for October. It's
literally like it came to me as, Oh, you're too
lazy to compose your own music for this, so you
took music from what I'm guessing is a better movie.
I actually love The Hunt for October, so I'm guessing
it's better. But yeah, that was the thing. I saw
that and it made me laugh because I'm like, really,

(01:22:55):
you took the Hymn to the Red October as you're
opening music, and I knew it was all going to
be a hard sell from there because I was already
they already got on my bad side by reusing music
from a different movie. And then I watched the stuff
and I thought, this is really standard. Let's show this
guy is a total badass by having him take down

(01:23:20):
bad guys. It gave me a lot of like Reacher vibes,
that kind of thing without telling us anything useful about
the character apart from the fact that he's very strong, fast,
and agile, that's it. And then he speaks Russian and yeah.
So by the end of it, I was just like, eh,
none of this has convinced me that this movie's gonna

(01:23:43):
be something I want to watch.

Speaker 1 (01:23:45):
So I was like, Okay, this is maybe not as
cringey as the trailers made it look. And then he
started patting the sabertooth tiger, and he did the very
best with it that he could.

Speaker 2 (01:23:57):
Like the dead tiger. It's a tiger rug, it's not
an actual tiger.

Speaker 1 (01:24:04):
It may not have been a saber to it was.

Speaker 2 (01:24:06):
Just a tiger.

Speaker 1 (01:24:06):
But yeah, but so yeah, so like again doing the
best they can. But that was just so silly to me.
But you know, if it was meant to be silly,
it's completely out of tone of the rest of the scene.
And then he jumped off of up the building and
that felt very fake to me. And then but at
that point I was watching at one point two five

(01:24:26):
speed again, and then.

Speaker 2 (01:24:29):
Well, of course it's going to look fake. Then let
me tell you, when it's played at normal speed, it
looks totally realistic, does it. No?

Speaker 1 (01:24:35):
No, okay, and then he runs into the storm that
he planned would be there three days after his incarceration.

Speaker 2 (01:24:43):
Yeah, and the plane, the plane he's going to escape on,
is hidden by this massive snowstorm and the Yeah, you're right,
that makes no sense because it is supposed to be
three days after he's been taken into custody. Yeah, so
so how did he know exactly where a blizzard was
going to be that would hide his getaway?

Speaker 1 (01:25:02):
Does he also control the elements?

Speaker 2 (01:25:04):
Who knows?

Speaker 1 (01:25:06):
Anyhow?

Speaker 2 (01:25:06):
They haven't defined any of his powers.

Speaker 1 (01:25:08):
Really anyhow, I handwave a lot of that stuff in
other movies. The trailers were so cringey to me that
it didn't super save it. I thought the acting was fine.
I thought the acting was fine.

Speaker 2 (01:25:22):
Yeah, it's just like I don't know who cares? Yeah, right,
like like it's it's it suffers the same problem that
I have with all the other extended Spider Man movies,
which is that these characters aren't quite interesting enough on
their own without Spider Man to anchor a film, And

(01:25:43):
yet that's what they've tried to do over and over again. Yeah, like, well,
you know what, the most interesting thing about Venom is
Spider Man? Do you know what the most interesting thing
about Craven the Hunter is Spider Man?

Speaker 1 (01:25:56):
So the first Venom movie, albeit it could have could
have been condensed down the villains. I didn't care about.
The odd couple relationship between Venom and Eddie Brock was
delightful to watch. I didn't need Spider Man for that.

Speaker 2 (01:26:09):
But it just doesn't make any sense because the whole
reason why Venom looks the way Venom does is that
Venom bonded first with Peter Parker slash Spider Man and
became his symbiote suit, and that without that, there's no
reason for Venom to look the way he does.

Speaker 1 (01:26:29):
Yeah. Like I said, I handwave a lot of stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:26:31):
Yeah, all right, well let's move on. We talked about
how neither of us are interested in the Snow White
live action film. We got a full trailer for that
live action film, and yeah, this didn't I mean, if anything,
this made me more reluctant to see the movie.

Speaker 1 (01:26:53):
Yeah. Again, it's not the casting. I don't even mind.
Gal Gudo is the evil Queen. She looks very much
in some of the shots like she got pulled directly
from the cartoon.

Speaker 2 (01:27:05):
You're right, she looks like the character.

Speaker 1 (01:27:09):
She I mean, like she is very fair, and the
queen was supposed to be a very beautiful person.

Speaker 2 (01:27:15):
And yes, contestedly, she looks like the character. That looks
and acting ability are two different things.

Speaker 1 (01:27:23):
But I think she's I don't think the trailer probably
did her justice. I think she can play a villain
just fine. Some of the costuming I felt was felt cheap.

Speaker 2 (01:27:32):
Yeah, it turns out that if you, if you really faithfully,
even with some sub liberties taken, if you faithfully adapt
the snow white dress into real world outfits, it does.
It doesn't look very convincing to me.

Speaker 1 (01:27:52):
I don't even think it was that faithfully adapted.

Speaker 2 (01:27:55):
No, they took some liberties, they made the skirt much shorter, gave.

Speaker 1 (01:28:00):
Her long sleeves. Yeah, yeah, uh it yeah it whatever.
The biggest problem, Okay, the second biggest problem I have
is all of the animals are CGI. And I understand
that we're moving away from using live animals in productions
because it can be cruel. I don't have a problem
with that. They look so CGI. And when you've got

(01:28:25):
real life people and you're trying to make real life
animals but you make them look like cartoons, it doesn't
work for me. And then why the heck are the
dwarfs CGI, and why are they so creepy looking?

Speaker 2 (01:28:38):
And why did they put a new song in? That's
what really throws me off. I'm like, oh, snow Light,
but it's a new song. There are.

Speaker 1 (01:28:50):
I just I don't feel like a new song is necessary,
But I'm fine with it. Honestly, the Dwarves look really bad.
They look way worse than if they had just tried
to authentically recreate the cartoon Dwarves. So there are plenty
of people little people. I don't know if that's the

(01:29:11):
correct term.

Speaker 2 (01:29:11):
That's what I hear a lot of people is the
generally accepted.

Speaker 1 (01:29:15):
Term, Okay, that are actors and would love roles specifically
for them.

Speaker 2 (01:29:22):
Yeah, I mean, you know, there's lots of discussion around
that about the use of dwarfs as as like a
separate kind of race where instead of it being like
dwarf ism. You know. Yeah, there's a whole discussion there

(01:29:43):
that I don't feel qualified to weigh in on.

Speaker 1 (01:29:46):
But I don't either. It's mainly from watching some people
who who fall into that acting category, who are like
why in Time Bandits did I was called in to
audition for it? I'm a little person and then they
decided not to go that route, and I was so
excited to have this role.

Speaker 2 (01:30:01):
Well, don't worry about that because that didn't get redecked
for a second season.

Speaker 1 (01:30:05):
So again I am I am in no way qualified
to talk about that, And if that really is a problem,
I understand them shying away from it.

Speaker 2 (01:30:12):
But well, I also thought that this isn't so much
an objection as it's just a I don't know if
this fits, not that it not that I don't think
it's uh, you know, that's ultimately a bad choice. But
they make it look like there's a lot more action
in this film than there was in the original animated movie.

(01:30:34):
They I think part of that is to give snow
White more agency, to give her more control over her situation,
and to have her be an active participant in her
story and not be so passive, which I don't think
is a bad thing, right, because in the original story,
it's a young woman who gets knocked out by a
poison apple and then has to wait around until a

(01:30:55):
prince wakes her up again, and she doesn't she doesn't
really do much like snow Light doesn't do much at all.
It's all the people around her that do things, so
I can understand wanting to change that. It just feels
like doing that while also trying to be while trying
to reference the original animated film. That's where the disconnect

(01:31:19):
is for me. I would rather they tell a new
version of snow White. They fully separate from the animated style,
and they you know that you can still have the
same you know, plot elements or whatever, but don't feel
like you need to make it so that. Oh I
recognize that because I've seen the animated movie. Leave that

(01:31:42):
stuff out, because otherwise it feels like you're trying to
shoehorn story elements that don't fit in the mold that
you created when you made the animated film in the
first place.

Speaker 1 (01:31:55):
Yeah, yeah, I agree. I I hope that this brings well,
the thing is, I don't even like the story of
snow White that much. I was like, I hope it
brings a new generation of kids to enjoy the movie.
But I the story, but I don't think it's a
great story.

Speaker 2 (01:32:11):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:32:11):
I mean, they'll probably give snow White more agency in
this one, but still.

Speaker 2 (01:32:16):
Yeah, I feel the same way. And I also, I mean, like,
to me, it's just I am so tired. I understand
why they're doing it, but I'm so tired of Disney
going back to releverage ip that they've created in an
effort to tap into nostalgia and the love people have

(01:32:37):
for classic Disney stuff rather than try to establish new things.
But we've talked about this before about how sometimes Disney
does try to establish new things and it doesn't always
work out.

Speaker 1 (01:32:46):
Yeah. Well, and they aren't always super into nostalgia. Look
at Muppets forty.

Speaker 2 (01:32:51):
Okay, so this is you referencing the fact that they're
bulldozing the Muppet Vision four D in order to room
for Monstropolis at Disney Hollywood Studios.

Speaker 1 (01:33:04):
Yeah. Yeah, Which I went to Disney at the beginning
of November and almost didn't do Muppets forty, and I
almost didn't do Rock and Roller Coaster. I love Rock
and Roller Coaster, but one of the people that went
with me was like, I don't really like riding it
because last time they rode in the very very back,
which is a super rough ride.

Speaker 2 (01:33:25):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (01:33:26):
But if you ride in the front, it's delightful. So
so we rode in the front and it was much better.
But I'm really glad I did because as soon as
we got back. Like the week that we got back,
Disney said, hey, we're shutting down Upets forty and rock
and Roller Coaster kind of but.

Speaker 2 (01:33:45):
Rock and Roller Coaster is getting a re theme, and
I mean we've Aerosmith is the band that's currently associated
with the Rock and Roller Coaster. Aeriel's throwing up the
shaker right now, which was cut out of that video.
But my favorite thing about that video is that Ken Marino,

(01:34:05):
of the state and wet hot American summer and everything,
he plays the studio engineer. Yeah, in that I am
so hopeful that they bring Ken Marino back when they
do the rethving. I would love to see Kid Marino
back as that character.

Speaker 1 (01:34:20):
Me me too. When we wrote it, they had it
had been broken down for a while, but we were
so close to the door and it was the last
ride we'd be able to do that night, like the
park had closed, exception for the second show of Fantasmic,
which happens thirty minutes after the park closed. Don't understand,
but anyhow, we stayed there because they weren't saying we're
shut down for the night. And I'm glad because that

(01:34:42):
means I won't get to write it again. Likely before
they reskin it. But ken Marino was just sitting in
the in the sound booth working. We didn't get to
do the entire show because of the breakdown.

Speaker 2 (01:34:55):
So it's just him like doing busy work and that's it.

Speaker 1 (01:34:59):
Yeah, so we're all yeling, Hey, thanks for the backstage
passes as we walked through.

Speaker 2 (01:35:05):
Yeah, ken Marina like, I love I love his work
in the various things he's in. So yeah, it's fun
to see. I really hope they bring him back. But yeah,
the idea is that the Muppets four D is going down.
There's no talk yet specifically about what's going to happen
with that film, but there has been at least some
indication that it will live on in some form somehow.

(01:35:29):
We just don't know how. That's important historically because any
Disney fan or Muppets fan probably knows this. But that's
the last project Jim Henson worked on voicing and controlling
Kermit the Frog before he passed away, So it's the
last time the original Kermit appears. Every Kermit after that

(01:35:53):
is someone else performing the character. And I'm an og
Kermit guy because I grew up in the seventies and
eighty so for me, the preservation of that film is
important because it represents the last time this brilliant puppeteer
and storyteller played the character he made famous well.

Speaker 1 (01:36:14):
And then like the building, like the actual theater is
a replica of the Muppet Show theater.

Speaker 2 (01:36:21):
Yep, and they even have in theater effects so that
it's not just the stuff you're watching on screen. You've
got like Statler and Waldorf who are in the box.
You've got the Swedish chef running the camera as I recall, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:36:37):
Yep, and then the projector, and then you've got an
actor who comes out as sweet Ems and interacts with you.
And ye watching that again because I thought, I remember,
I'm just kind of walking out with a flashlight and
going no. It's such an involved role and the person
who did it was so into playing that character. It
was at least made me believe they were Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:36:57):
So yeah, I sad to see that go. Uh. I
understand why they would choose to take it down because
every time I've gone in recent years before they announced
that it was going to go away, it was maybe
at most a third full, like it was never a

(01:37:18):
full house, So I get it, Like if it's not
going to capacity, then you know, you could dedicate that
space to something that could swallow up more people so
that maybe Slinky Dog Dash isn't a four hour wait.
I love that ride, but only if you don't have
to wait.

Speaker 1 (01:37:34):
For it, and only it's not during the day because
it's the surface of the sun. There's no shade, and
you swallow.

Speaker 2 (01:37:40):
Bugs the It is definitely a hotter ride in the daytime.
I prefer the nighttime because the lights are really cool.
But yeah, but yeah, they're they're going to They're going
to reskin Rock and Roller Coaster with the Muppets and
some unannounced musical partners, like so presumably it's not just

(01:38:01):
going to be Doctor Teeth in the Electric Mayhem. But
you know, this is something that people have been calling
for ever since they had the Electric Mayhem Disney Plus series,
So they would be great to reskin Rock and Roller
Coaster with the Electric Mayhem. Sounds like they're not going
to leave it to just the Muppets. There will also
be other artists involved. Who knows who that'll be, probably

(01:38:25):
Chapel Road.

Speaker 1 (01:38:26):
I don't know, that'd be great. So here's the thing, Like,
I am really sad for Muppets forty to go away,
because I remember that from my earliest Disney days and
it was so it was so cool. It was so cool,
and I love the Muppets. That land has been that
area has been kind of you know, they close the

(01:38:46):
Muppet Store, which was great. Yeah, I was kind of
worried that they're getting rid of Muppets altogether, because like
the lab at Epcot also has been greatly diminished.

Speaker 2 (01:38:56):
They also used to have Doctor Strange, they head of
Doctor Bunzen, Honey and Beaker moving around for a while
at Epcot, and that hasn't been I think that.

Speaker 1 (01:39:04):
Was a part of the Brew Labs or whatever they are.
There's still a little bit of Muppet stuff. There are
still some videos during the food and Wine festival in there,
but yeah, not nearly as much, you know, Pizza Rizzo whatever.
I know some people love it for nostalgia. It's not good.

Speaker 2 (01:39:18):
It's not good.

Speaker 1 (01:39:19):
No.

Speaker 2 (01:39:20):
Even the Christmas store back over where the Muppets stuff is,
even that was not always open, at least since the pandemic.

Speaker 1 (01:39:29):
So I've seen a lot of stuff on social media
talking about how it's it's really like an urban planning error.
The way the way that people flow around the park
with Galaxy's Edge and Toy story Land, and that they
kind of because they closed the back lot tours and
the Streets of America. It closed off a flow of
traffic where normally you would just go through that area. Yeah,

(01:39:53):
now you have to purposefully go to that area. And
people saying that if you kept the Muppets four D there,
you put the the monsters in the Art of Animation
because there's a lot of room back there. Yeah, and
then that would can and then that would connect it
with Toy.

Speaker 2 (01:40:12):
Storyland, so a Pixar area of the park.

Speaker 1 (01:40:15):
Yeah. That being that being said, I do hope that
re skinning Aerosmith to be Muppets. I hope they bring
more Muppet stuff into that and that that revitalizes that area.
Maybe they can open the Muppet Store back up over there,
because my favorite shirt came from there. Of all times,
a couple of them, but but also I gave you

(01:40:35):
one of them you gave to me, and one of
them I bought, which was like Beaker. It was just
a multi colored beaker ringer tea that I don't have.
I still have the one you gave me, but I
don't have the Beaker tea anymore. And my Muppet My
My Animal Drummer shirt with the lightning bolts down the
back also came from there. Most of my favorite Disney
shirts came from their, exception of one from Indiana Jones.

(01:40:56):
But but Rock and Roller is right next to Haunted Mansion,
which did also have a Muppets version. Wasn't there a
Muppets Haunted Mansion?

Speaker 2 (01:41:10):
Yeah, but what do you mean Rock and Roller coaster
is next No, it's next to Tower of Terror.

Speaker 1 (01:41:14):
Next to Tower of Terror. I'm sorry, I was getting
scary build I'm getting my Disney scary buildings mixed up.

Speaker 2 (01:41:20):
I got confused because Rocket because obviously haunted mansions in
the Magic Kingdom. That's why I got super confused.

Speaker 1 (01:41:27):
Well just ignore that last fact. But there should be
a Tower of Terror Muppets version. That would be great.

Speaker 2 (01:41:33):
Yeah, I think that would be great. Honestly, like if
they were to reskin Tower of Terror, because that's what
they did in Disneyland. They reskinned it to be Guardens
of the Galaxy. That's what it's, the Guardians of the
Galaxy right in Disneyland. I think it would be a
shame to lose the Twilight Zone Tower of Terror stuff,
but there have been times where they talked about that

(01:41:53):
license not being renewed if they were to reskin that
where they made that a Muppets hotel, and that's the
reason that the elevator doesn't work so great because it's
a Muppets hotel, like the Hotel and the Happiness Hotel
in the Great Muppet Caper. That would be hilarious. Uh
not that, not that I expect them to do that,
or if they are doing it, it won't be until

(01:42:14):
like twenty thirty five or something. But anyway, that's the
that's the Muppet stuff. Next up, we have news that
I thought was really exciting, which is that there's going
to be a theatrical staged version of Smegadoon. That's the
Apple TV series that the you know, in which two

(01:42:37):
people accidentally get stuck in a world that's a musical
and it was a very funny show. The first season
I thought was okay, the second season I thought was
much better. But there's going to be a stage adaptation
of Smigadoon and it's going to be up for just

(01:42:59):
a short time at the Kennedy Center in d C.
So it's not going to be there for very long.
Alex Brightman's going to be in it.

Speaker 1 (01:43:06):
He's really good at playing heels that pull it my heartstrings.
So yeah, not that I'm going to go see Schmigadoon
at the Kennedy Center, but he's.

Speaker 2 (01:43:16):
I mean, DC, It's only an hour flight or so.
I mean, it's not bad.

Speaker 1 (01:43:21):
Yeah, but I don't playing tickets for me my friend
are expensive.

Speaker 2 (01:43:25):
Oh well, I get you. I've been buying tickets recently.
But then I also am a frequent flyer, like I'm
a medallion member, so.

Speaker 1 (01:43:34):
I'm not I'm not, and like my husband does work
in the private jet industry, but we see absolutely no
benefit from that. Well, I mean beyond like a regular paycheck.

Speaker 2 (01:43:44):
Sure, sure, what you mean is no, no, like, like
you know, it's not like flight benefits. Yeah, you don't
get to go jetting around the world for free or something.

Speaker 1 (01:43:53):
But hopefully, like so, I think hopefully it will do
well and we'll move to New York.

Speaker 2 (01:44:00):
Yeah, I mean, if this ends up getting a really
good reception, it could be one of those things that
ultimately gets further development. I wouldn't be surprised if whatever
formance en ends up being workshopped further because I'm very curious.
I'm guessing that it'll be some sort of truncated, summarized
version of the first season, because the second season wouldn't

(01:44:22):
make sense without the first season, because it's a continuation. Yeah,
and that means condensing like a mini series of episodes
into a like two hour play, which I'm sure you
could do. Like, there's a lot of stuff in that
first season that you don't aren't it's not necessary for
you to have it in your story. But at the

(01:44:44):
same time, you're like, there are a lot of fun
little songs that we're all poking fun at classic you know,
musical show tunes and and you know, motifs and stuff.
So I am definitely curious. If I get a chance,
I will go see this. I love DC anyway, so

(01:45:05):
it would be nice to be able to do it,
But I don't know that I'm going to have the time.

Speaker 1 (01:45:09):
Our friend Kate is going to go see it. I
was trying to talk Tony into going up to DC
to watch either, well I don't think either Bigger or
drop Out Improv and then maybe doing a double feature,
but I don't even know if they overlap, So.

Speaker 2 (01:45:25):
Next up, we had the Lelo and Stitch teaser, but
we talked about that already, so I fear we could
just move on, move on. We got a trailer for
Dexter Original Sin. I don't know how he's still alive,
but whatever.

Speaker 1 (01:45:42):
I mean, it's a it's a prequel, right.

Speaker 2 (01:45:45):
Is it? Okay?

Speaker 1 (01:45:46):
Well then yeah, did you not watch a trailer?

Speaker 2 (01:45:49):
I did watch the trailer, but honestly, I wasn't paying
that much attention.

Speaker 1 (01:45:52):
So, yeah, Dexter is like this college boy. It's when
he first gets the job.

Speaker 2 (01:45:56):
Oh okay. I saw that Sarah Michelle geller Is is
guest starring in it, which is exciting to me.

Speaker 1 (01:46:03):
Yeah. I think the kid that they can't kid, he's
a young adult that they cast as Dexter, is a
really good casting choice. He looks he evokes the character
very much to me. But the further I got into
the trailer, the more and more I'm like, Nope, this
is just still too dark and upsetting to me.

Speaker 2 (01:46:18):
I mean that's kind of the point. Kind of the point. Yeah,
it's you don't you don't tell a story that that
has a serial killer as the protagonist that have it
be light and fluffy, I.

Speaker 1 (01:46:32):
Less believe Christian Slater as John Lithgow.

Speaker 2 (01:46:37):
Is he playing that character?

Speaker 1 (01:46:39):
Well, I don't know. Well, no, he's not. He's playing
Dexter's dad. I just keep thinking I was.

Speaker 2 (01:46:44):
Wanna say John Lifthgal is not Dexter's dad. John Leftgell
is another serial killer who uh there's like a whole
cat and mouse between him and Dexter throughout the whole season.

Speaker 1 (01:46:53):
He plays Dexter's dad. So that's my bad again. I
didn't watch much of the series.

Speaker 2 (01:46:57):
I watched some of the original Null Dexter series, but
I never watched it all the way. I never finished it.
I didn't actually get to the season where John Lithgal
was in it, but I heard a lot about it
and heard that he did an amazing job, which no
big surprise. John Lithgal is like he's he's a phenomenal actor.

Speaker 1 (01:47:15):
Yeah. I almost included something with him and Jeffrey Rush.
It's a scary movie, but I couldn't get through the
trailer because it's it's not it's not like sci fi
in anyway. It's just upsetting.

Speaker 2 (01:47:25):
Well, speaking of upsetting trailers, Minecraft, the actual full.

Speaker 1 (01:47:31):
Length Minecraft trailer was better than the teaser. It kind
of gives you a really weird story about Steve who
really wanted to work in the mines as a kid.

Speaker 2 (01:47:41):
Yeah. No, I at that beginning. As soon as I
saw that, I was like, what can you read the room?
Because forced child labor in mining operations is a real
world problem right now?

Speaker 1 (01:47:54):
Yeah, yeah, but there.

Speaker 2 (01:47:56):
Are blood diamonds, there are rare minerals where like children
are being forced, yeah to work in minds, maybe this
is not the right energy to bring to this this movie, But.

Speaker 1 (01:48:07):
The rest of the the rest of the movie just
looks like how to play Minecraft tutorial that kids would
absolutely love, So I'm less against it.

Speaker 2 (01:48:18):
I got a little confused. Maybe I wasn't paying enough attention. Okay,
I know I wasn't paying enough attention, But it sounded
to me like Jason Momoa was saying he was a
different video game that got pulled in.

Speaker 1 (01:48:34):
Wasn't paying attention. I thought he said he was a mailman.

Speaker 2 (01:48:36):
He's a garbage man. He said something that he says
something like so and so the garbage Man or whatever,
Best Game nineteen eighty nine or something like that, And
I'm like, wait, is he the personification of a different game,
and somehow he's been pulled into Minecraft. I don't know
the answer to that.

Speaker 1 (01:48:54):
I did not hear game.

Speaker 2 (01:48:58):
It's entirely fairly possible I hallucinated it, let's be fair.
I don't know if you know this areal, But earlier
this year, I had this medical thing where it was
kind of like a stroke and my brain's got scrambled.

Speaker 1 (01:49:10):
Okay, yeah, no, you you that sounds vaguely familiar.

Speaker 2 (01:49:18):
Maybe I brought it up once or twice.

Speaker 1 (01:49:20):
Maybe Garrett the garbage Man Garrison Minecraft wiki.

Speaker 2 (01:49:28):
I like that you're looking this up. I couldn't be bothered.

Speaker 1 (01:49:31):
He wears a shirt with characters from the video game
Hunk City Rampage.

Speaker 2 (01:49:36):
Maybe that's it. Maybe maybe then there's like a line
he says about the game Hunk City Rampage.

Speaker 1 (01:49:43):
He was a video game World Champion in nineteen eighty nine.

Speaker 2 (01:49:47):
Okay, that's what I didn't hear properly, Like I thought
he was talking about. He was like he had won
the title of best video Game. Not he was a
video game player.

Speaker 1 (01:50:00):
Yeah, it made no sense. I didn't hear it either,
and I meant to look it up and I never did,
which is why I looked it up now, because I
knew I was not going to remember as soon as
I get off this microphone.

Speaker 2 (01:50:07):
Yeah, I will say that the bit that I thought
was cute was the bit with the inder pearl, which
is a thing that in Minecraft if you find one
and if you throw it, you will teleport to wherever
it lands. And they have a cute little little comedic
site gag with Jason Momoa and that, and I was like, Okay,

(01:50:27):
that's cute. None of the rest of this is at
all making me want to see this movie. It feels
very cringe to me. But then also, if kids like it,
that's awesome. But the kids love it.

Speaker 1 (01:50:39):
I don't think it's meant for us, but I do
kind of. I'm like, maybe I'll watch it on two
time speed when it comes to TV so that I
can learn how to play Minecraft better. I'm not great
at it.

Speaker 2 (01:50:50):
I used to. I'm sure I've told this story before too,
but I used to do a fundraiser thing for Children's
Hospital charity for every year where I would do twenty
four or I think one year it was twenty five
straight hours of me playing Minecraft and people who donated,

(01:51:10):
depending on how much they donated. I would build a
tribute to them in the Minecraft world nice. And so
the more you donated, the more precious materials I would
have to gather in order to build whatever the tribute was.
And yeah, that was a lot of hard work, but
it was fun. Next up, we've got the trailer for

(01:51:33):
Captain America Brave New World we talked about already, so
we're going to.

Speaker 1 (01:51:35):
Move on scoop. Next, we have a trailer for Grand
Theft Hamlet, which is not at all what I expected
it to be.

Speaker 2 (01:51:42):
Yeah. The story is, these two actors end up forming
this crazy idea to do a production of Hamlet inside
Grand Theft Auto Online, up to and including holding auditions
for characters in Grand Theft Auto Online, and like all

(01:52:02):
the it's almost like a documentary about all the trials
and tribulations involved in making this happen. Not to say
like this is like a true life documentary kind of thing,
but it looks delightful.

Speaker 1 (01:52:16):
It does, it does. It's not just Hamlet being done
in Grand Theft Auto. It's yeah, it's fun.

Speaker 2 (01:52:21):
Yeah, it's also very funny to think about a situation
where you have people gathered to do auditions and then
someone just whips out a flamethrower and starts torching everybody else.
That's one way to get the part.

Speaker 1 (01:52:34):
Yeah, there's a bit in the trailer where one of
them is like, please don't kill each other, Please don't
kill the actors.

Speaker 2 (01:52:42):
Yeah, and then we get a trailer that I did
not get a chance to see. I ran out of
time before we started recording, which is kind of a
a crossover to another show that you and I hosted, Yes.

Speaker 1 (01:52:56):
Which is the entirely, entirely the reason why I include this.
This is kind of a documentary done by the same
people who did Quiet on Set, which is a very
upsetting documentary but needed called Greed and Glitter. The Lisa

(01:53:17):
Frank's story and the reason why Jonathan says it ties
to our other show. We used to do a show
called Business on the Brink. I think a lot of
our listeners know that already, but if you didn't, we
talked about the make or break moments of businesses and
Lisa Frank at the time and still is kind of
making a resurgence. So we talked about why Lisa Frank
kind of went the way of a Dodo for a while,

(01:53:38):
and it was because it was a really bad working
condition apparently, and the trailer for this for this documentary
kind of confirms that. In fact, one of the people
they interview goes, it wasn't all rainbows and unicorns.

Speaker 2 (01:53:53):
Yeah. So if you don't know who Lisa Frank, like,
if you don't.

Speaker 1 (01:53:56):
Know what that is, I guess that's important.

Speaker 2 (01:53:58):
Yeah, it's a brand that you would associate with things
like trapper Keepers and stuff like that back in the
eighties and nineties where it was all this lots of
very colorful gear that I always think of, trapper Keepers,
that's the one I always do too.

Speaker 1 (01:54:16):
Yeah, that's my go to, yeah, school supplies.

Speaker 2 (01:54:18):
Yeah, so it's all those like glittery, shiny stuff or
the very very very late eighties early nineties designs like
those zig zags and blotches and stuff that became became
like a go to decorative theme for those those years.
I don't know why, but they did.

Speaker 1 (01:54:41):
Neon rainbow baby leopards and dolphins and unicorns.

Speaker 2 (01:54:46):
Yeah. So that's Lisa Frank. And so this is a
documentary about that that company and what happened. And so
just I know you're all out there dying to know. No,
Ariel and I are not getting residuals for this, even
though I suspect they listen to our podcast that's what
them to do the show interesting.

Speaker 1 (01:55:07):
I doubt it, but that would be really cool if
they did.

Speaker 2 (01:55:09):
Honestly, Yeah, I doubt it too, but I like to
talk a big game.

Speaker 1 (01:55:13):
Yeah, it is a really interesting story. It's just because
it's so like surprising, I.

Speaker 2 (01:55:23):
Guess, yeah, No, it's it's the it's the real story
behind the scenes is so in conflict with the brand perception,
right Like that's where that's where the interesting parts come from.
So well, that's cool. I'm glad that we were able
to include it. And I'm just going to tell you
straight up here, Ariel, if people want to reach out

(01:55:47):
to us to ask us things about what we've talked
about today, what they're going to have to do if
they want me to answer, is they're going to have
to watch every single movie and series I was quizzing
you about earlier. And once they can do that and
prove to me that they have done that, then I'll
bother answering their question. But if they have other, you know,

(01:56:09):
questions that need to be answered and they don't mind
if it doesn't come from me, what can they do?

Speaker 1 (01:56:14):
Oh you turn the tables, my friend. They can reach
out on social media on Facebook and threads and Instagram.
We're a large nerdrun Collider. We're also that on discord.
You can find the invite to join the discord on
our website www dot large nerdron collider dot com. We're
technically on blue Sky, but I don't really use it,
and you can email us for anything long form that

(01:56:38):
you'd like to talk about, suggestions, please, you know whatever.
We are large nerdrum Pod at gmail dot com. We
do love hearing from you, and sometimes I'm slow to answer.
If you say anything to Jonathan and he doesn't check it,
I do tell him and he will sometimes relay messages.

Speaker 2 (01:56:59):
It depends how grouchy I am that day.

Speaker 1 (01:57:01):
Yeah it's not you, it's him, but but that's it.
We really do love hearing from you. We love that
you listen to our show and talk about geeky things
with us. And until next time, because whoa, this has
been a marathon. I have been Aeriel, I don't have

(01:57:23):
something witty.

Speaker 2 (01:57:24):
Here, and I have been Jonathan. If I can drag
this out for a minute and fifty seconds, we will
hit two ours no, never mind, Strickland.

Speaker 1 (01:57:39):
Okay, yeah, but also you're going to have to edit
out some of my goops.

Speaker 2 (01:57:43):
So oh, we'll see. The Large Nerdron Collider was created
by Ariel Caston and produced, edited, published, deleted, undeleted, published again.
Curse That by Jonathan Strickland. Music by Kevin McLeod of
incomptech dot com