LNC Gets Grouchy Over Shakespeare

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Speaker 1 (00:10):
Hey, everybody, Welcome to the Large Nerdrun Collider podcast, the
podcast that's all about the geeky things happening in the
world around us and how very excited we are about them.
I'm Aerial caston and with me is always the ever
wonderful Jonathan Strickland.

Speaker 2 (00:24):
Say my name three times and I will mad show up.
Jonathan Strickland.

Speaker 1 (00:29):
Jonathan Strickland, Jonathan Strickland.

Speaker 2 (00:31):
You stumbled on number two, so luckily I'm still here.

Speaker 1 (00:34):
Okay, I mean you've already shown up. So you didn't
say you disappear.

Speaker 2 (00:38):
That's true. I did not. I mean I probably will
if I hear my name said that many times. I'm
going to be like, something bad is happening. I did
not want to be here.

Speaker 1 (00:45):
You just can't, I mean fair. You just can't put
a shiny red button out there and not expect someone.

Speaker 2 (00:50):
To push it. So, yeah, that's true. The candy like button,
as Ren and Stimpy would say, Welcome.

Speaker 1 (00:58):
Back y'all from Rend Stimpy.

Speaker 2 (01:01):
Yeah, there's a Ren and Stimpy episode called Space Madness
where Wren gives Stimpy the the task of guarding a
red button that says, under no circumstances push this button
something like that, do not push essentially I need It's like,
there's this button, this is why does the button do red?
That's just it. Nobody knows so and you're gonna stand

(01:23):
here and guard it.

Speaker 1 (01:25):
So I've heard that phrase since I started doing like LARPing,
because we'd be like, oh, we put the candy red
shiny button or whatever out there, some version of that.
I didn't know it was from Ren and Stippy because
I've never I don't like Ren and Stimpy and I've
never watched it. And it's not one of those things
like log that has skipping the mud Skipper that has
made it into my Oh that's where it's.

Speaker 2 (01:46):
From, that particular or the happy Happy Joy Joy song. Yeah, no,
the space madness one. Like I mean, obviously there's some
of the elements of that super close up growth kind
of animation in it, but it's I think it's one
of the more coherent storylines of the of the entire series.

(02:08):
But the idea is that that Wren is suffering from
space madness because he's he's too bored, he doesn't have
enough to keep him occupied, and Stimpy because he's so simple,
is immune to space madness. And then Wren puts Stimpy
in charge of guarding the super emergency button and a narrator.

(02:32):
At one point is like the the shiny candy like button.
Can he hold out? Will he hold out? And as
you can imagine, Stimpy gives into temptation and pushes the button.
I won't spoil anything further from there. It is. It
is one of those that I think everyone should watch
just because of how goofy it is. However, that was

(02:55):
not one of the things I watched since the last
time we recorded. And this is the point in the
show where we talk about the last thing we watched
since the last time we recorded. So, Ariel, what sort
of stuff have you been watching since our last get together?

Speaker 1 (03:09):
I mean mainly Boulderskate, And by that I mean playing it,
playing it, and it's also kind of watching It's hard
because I definitely need a second and maybe a third
play through because this time I'm trying to play it
the right way and not miss quests and not do
things to like so like I've done some cheating on this.

Speaker 2 (03:33):
Looking up walkthroughs and stuff, a little bit of like
looking up walkthroughs or really quest order, are there any quests?
That I shouldn't, you know, right, Like if you if
you jump into one quest, does that close off other
opportunities that you should have done earlier?

Speaker 1 (03:50):
Yeah, And then I mean a little bit of like
checking out character approval disapprovals.

Speaker 2 (03:57):
Yeah, I get it because, like I don't know about you,
But when I play generally, I think I've talked about
this before, but when I play RPGs, I always want
to play like sort of a paragon of virtue type character,
someone who makes selfless choices and helps the people as
much as as they can. That kind of thing. And

(04:19):
the beautiful thing about Balder's Gate three is there is
no quote unquote wrong way to play it. Like you're
telling a story. That story might have a incredibly unhappy ending,
or it might have an unhappy ending. I don't think
there are any happy endings for Balder's Gate three, but
I don't know because I haven't gotten that far.

Speaker 1 (04:38):
I think that there are, based on my spoilers and
things like that, I think that there are. It is
it is so like I have I have a little
home group chat chat with a couple of my very
good friends that are also replaying it, so they finish
their first play through and they're playing their second and
or third with new characters and new choices, because they're
playing it the way you would play an actual RP.

(05:00):
This is my character. What choices am I going to make?
Not how do I want this story to unfold? But
rather these choices are and you know, depending on the
order of what you do things and which party members
you have in your party, because you can only have
three of them, and you get way more than three.

(05:21):
And yeah, so the order depends where you go to first,
the party members, and even just time from time, Like,
there have been a couple of times where I've accidentally,
like I'm playing on the PS five and so sometimes
if I scroll down to the answer I want super
fast and click on it, the joystick will pop back
up and choose the wrong option and I'll have to
go back. And I really like but I it does

(05:44):
the game doesn't save very often, so to go back,
I'm like, Okay, now I'm gonna have to replay this
scene again. And the stuff leading up to the scene
is different because they've made it variable, right, and it
also depends on like your approval ratings and things like that,
So it is a very different game. It can be
a very different gameplay each time you play it. And
they also just released a patch, like a new, big

(06:06):
old patch with a bunch of new stuff in it.

Speaker 2 (06:08):
So which just tells me that I've got to play
it again. But the problem I face now is that
the computer I had played it on is pretty much dead.
Like I can sometimes get it to run, but it
can crash very frequently, and uh, there's obviously something wrong.
It's a laptop. There's obviously something wrong with the battery,

(06:29):
because if the power cable gets jiggled even a little bit,
it will it will turn off, which tells me that
the battery must not be properly seated, because otherwise the
battery should continue to supply power even if you unplug
the laptop, and it's it's not like like it's I
had it plugged in all the time. It's not like

(06:49):
I had drained the battery down to nothing. So I
ended up switching to a different computer. But this computer
cannot run games like that, and so I'm in the
same position you were in like last year, where I
don't have a machine capable of running the game right now,

(07:11):
and so I want to get back into it. But
I'm kind of stuck until I either get a new
computer or figure out what the heck has happened to
the one that I have that is janky.

Speaker 1 (07:25):
Yeah, I totally get that. I my computer doesn't do
a lot, but so I'm playing through that and like,
but the problem is, like I I was playing it
on normal mode and then I switched over to easy
because there are a couple of fights that I just
after trying them like four or five times, couldn't get

(07:47):
through on normal, And thankfully the game lets you choose
back and like it lets you go back and forth
on difficulty. I think I don't know after this patch,
but at least before the patch, the only difference was
if you were on like the easy mode, like I'm
playing this for the story, not for the challenge, then
you couldn't multi class, which happens in Act two, which
I'm in now. So I don't know if I could

(08:08):
multi class now. I probably could if I changed it
to normal and I went to Withers and I spent
the money, I could probably multi class. But yeah, yeah,
I just I'm trying to play it the right way
so I don't miss anything, just in case I don't
have time to play it again, and I do feel
like that's I just want to I want to play

(08:30):
it again with like no cares and see what happens different,
you know. So I think part of it is just
being afraid that I'm playing it wrong, Like am I
short resting? Am I long? Well, you can't short rest
too often? But am I long resting too often? Because
I'm not great at the game yet?

Speaker 2 (08:48):
No, I hear you, Like I always felt like the
resting thing always made me feel weird because sometimes I'd
be like, I need to rest or I will get
my butt handed to me in this next cop frontation.
But by the logic of the game, I shouldn't rest
because by then too much time will have passed and yeah,

(09:09):
and I won't be able to achieve whatever it is
that I'm supposed to achieve.

Speaker 1 (09:13):
Yeah, or and like that's not always the case, I think.
I do think it is more like based on how
many long rests after you hit certain quests, So it's
not in general so like in Act one, after you
hit the gobbling camp, if you don't do anything and
you rest too many times or something like that, you
might lose out on rescuing the te flings or whatever,

(09:34):
but or rescuing the grove. But I don't know that
for certain. But I do hit like long periods where
none of my companions are furthering, like the personal quests,
and that's like the fun part, right, seeing how your outcomes.
And so I'm like, have I rested too much? Well,
I've only rested twice. But I also understand they can't
just give you all that information up front.

Speaker 2 (09:56):
Well, and sometimes they're the continuation of their story only
happens when you rest.

Speaker 1 (10:02):
Yeah, yeah, And so like to I did the Act
one and I'd say, sorry, guys, this may not be
interesting to anybody, but I did Act one in kind
of a slightly weird order because I had read that
you want to do Gobbling Camp early and so it
was very high level for me. I made it through,
and I made it through on normal, but it took
a while, but I missed out on a bunch of

(10:24):
stuff in the.

Speaker 2 (10:25):
Emerald growth because of that.

Speaker 1 (10:26):
So you know, there's no wrong way to play the game,
but it does definitely change your gameplay. I will say
that I do notice that, like occasionally characters will act like, hey,
you've been through all this before, But I hadn't because
I did it in a different order, or like all
of a sudden, after having like four or five long

(10:46):
rests of nothing, my characters spill out like five different
plot lines at once, And I'm like, I don't. I
didn't think I was playing it that wrong.

Speaker 2 (10:59):
Considering the the just the sheer number of potential ways
that you could play through that game, I'm not surprised
that little hiccups like that can occasionally slip through. I'm
actually surprised it doesn't happen more frequently. Yeah, you know,
just because because that game is so complicated.

Speaker 1 (11:18):
Yeah, Like I picked up Karlac pretty late in the game,
and then I didn't really because I'm playing a barbarian.
In Karlac's a barbarian. She's the teefling with the infernal engine.

Speaker 2 (11:27):
So you're not having her be part of your party
most of the time.

Speaker 1 (11:31):
No, No, because anytime she's in my party, and she
can pick up and throw somebody that's a little too
heavy for me to pick up and throw because I'm
the smaller body size. She's a larger body size, and
it does affect how much you can pick up. Like
it makes me mad. So Aerl gets throw in the
she's yes, she's a great character, but she's like, well,

(11:52):
you know these things, and I'm like do I We
didn't talk about them. So I'm gonna see one of
those friends this weekend. We're gonna be in the same place,
so I'll have to ask them if if they've had
a similar situation where it's like nothing, nothing, nothing, and
all of a sudden, all of this stuff, and like,
because I I didn't think that I skipped so much

(12:14):
after I picked her up that we wouldn't have had
those moments before.

Speaker 2 (12:18):
So I don't know. Well, I also wonder if some
of that may have anything to do with the fact
that you're playing a console version of the game, because
obviously it's not like you have to make specific, you know,
development in order to create a console version of a
PC game. So it's possible that some of the stuff
you're running into has to do with some conversion issues, right, yeah, yeah,

(12:43):
where it's not that you're doing anything wrong, it's that
maybe the console version. And I apologize for my dog,
but maybe the console he is he's been excited for
the last half hour, but yeah, maybe some of those
things are due to conversion errors. It's hard to say,
like it might be a combination of the two.

Speaker 1 (13:03):
Yeah, yeah, I mean that being said, I'm still enjoying it.
I love the variability. I love so when I first
got a Sterian and Will, they bickered for like an
hour of my gameplay and it was delightful. So they've
put a lot of thought and effort into this game,
and I really enjoy it. And I'm very much enjoying it.

(13:26):
But I also don't have like so my husband when
I go he's a much more of an idol than
I am. So when I go to bed, he's up
for several hours and he can play a video game
for several hours. Me, I have to like fit it in.
Either I have to wake up earlier than I want
to because I don't like waking up so early to
play and that seems just not fun. Or I have
to like squeeze it in so so like I'm trying

(13:48):
to like mainline it at least once so that I
make their sure I get through it because I'm enjoying
the story and I want to finish it. And then
after that, on any absequent playthroughs, it won't be as often,
it won't be as rushed, But you know, I'm just
I want I'm enjoying it, and I want to make
sure that I finished the game, because it's so easy
to put a game down once you started it, you know.

Speaker 2 (14:10):
Oh yeah, No, I mean yeah, because I've done it
with Boulder's Gate three, where like I got fairly deep
into Act two. Probably not. I probably wasn't close to
finishing it, but maybe closer to like the halfway mark,
because these acts are huge. Yeah, but I was getting
into a part of Act two, maybe even Act three.
I might have actually been into Act three, but anyway

(14:33):
I was, I had not reached Boulder's Gate at all.
That's probably too then. It probably is, it probably is.
It's it was just it was one of those areas
where I was like, oh, I gotta save up for that.
It was after you come back up from underground, so okay,
I had done all the underground stuff and I was

(14:55):
back above ground.

Speaker 1 (14:56):
So you were right. So you were probably after doing
Sharstlet and fighting Raphael's enemy, and probably right before going
to the shadow Fell.

Speaker 2 (15:06):
I don't know what any of that is. I mean,
I do know what the Gauntlet is. I did finish
the Gauntlet. I remember that, because I had to look
at walkthroughs for that. It was just I was getting
annihilated every every attempt. But yeah, I haven't. But then
part of that now is, yeah, I'm pretty sure I'm
out of the under dark. There was like some sort
of city, like abandoned city that I was going through,

(15:31):
or ruins of some sort that I was going through,
and that's where, and there was like like a cult
or something that had taken up there. I can't remember,
so I.

Speaker 1 (15:41):
Think you were on the cusp of two and three.

Speaker 2 (15:43):
It's probably where. Okay, So that's that's kind of where
I was at. And then obviously like it was a
combination of me kind of stepping away from the game,
which I did. I did way before my computer decided
to poop out on me. But then my computer pooped
out on me and didn't give me the option of
coming back. So, well, what have you watched besides yourself
playing boulders Gate three?

Speaker 1 (16:04):
Oh thank goodness, I'm not watching myself because that would
be miserable.

Speaker 2 (16:07):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (16:08):
I watched the final episode of season one of Daredevil
Born Again, which is coming back next year, so pretty
quick turnaround on second season. I will say the final, Like,
I feel like they could have finished the season one
or two episodes earlier when they dealt with Muse, which

(16:29):
is who they set up to be the big bad
of this season. The last episode of Daredevil was gory
in a way that I was not prepared for. Kingpin
did some Kingpin stuff that to quote my husband, because

(16:49):
I looked away, I knew, I knew, and I looked away,
and he said that was far different and far worse
than I had imagined. Like the look on his face
was of sheer horror and I rarely see that. And
then he explained to me what happened. I'm like, yeah,
I'm glad I didn't watch it, but it was it's
it's I don't want to spoil anything. It was good.

(17:12):
It was really good. I just I it was a
lot at points and I had to look away. So
I watched that. I am looking forward to season two.
I watch I'm still working through Abbot Elementary. I really
like it. I just it's one of those things that
I watch on my own time. Because Tony wasn't an educator.
He's he's a great person, he's great with kids, but
he never worked in the educational field and so like,

(17:34):
these things don't necessarily hit home for him. So I'm
watching that. I am going through the newest season of
Harley Quinn, which I don't know if you're there, so
I don't know if.

Speaker 2 (17:46):
We're I'm like three seasons behind you in season three,
then I.

Speaker 1 (17:49):
Won't say anything. But the latest episode I watched was fun.
And then I watched the trailer. It's such a it's
like a thirty second teaser for the new actual play
on Dimension twenty skyward Hoe, and it looks amazing. It's
like a steampunk airship sort of an adventure, and it's
using the Intrepid heroes, and so I am very I mean,

(18:11):
I'm already looking forward to watching it because that group
of players they had, they work really well together. Emily
and Murph and Lou and Ali and Shavon and.

Speaker 2 (18:24):
Zach.

Speaker 1 (18:24):
They all work really well together. So I really like theirs.
There are seasons, and so.

Speaker 2 (18:28):
I'm looking forward to this one awesome. Well for me,
I did watch the one year later Game Changers episode
and very very much enjoyed that. Becca and I watched
it together.

Speaker 1 (18:40):
I told you it was worth like a full watch.

Speaker 2 (18:43):
Yeah, we did. We watched the whole thing. So I
think I had watched the beginning of it by myself,
and then I was like, no, Becca's gonna love this,
and so we went back in. Oh good, now I
got a train and my dog. But anyway, we went.
We went and watched it together and we both really
enjoyed it. And then we watched the try guy's attempt

(19:05):
to go a day where the only food and entertainment
options they would allow themselves would have to come from
vending machines, and that was kind of disastrous, and it
also involved a segment that I was horrified by. So
I had to show Beca, and then I showed her
and then she like her jaw dropped. So context my partner, Yeah,

(19:31):
my partner, Beca works in the airline industry, so I
have like everyone knows generally about good and bad things
to do if you were trying to book a ticket somewhere,
but we're particularly sensitive to it because Beca's been in
the airline industry for more than twenty years now. And

(19:54):
in one of the sections, they get this bright idea
of we're having trouble finding vending machines, what if we
sent somebody through the I think it was lax and
got the cheapest flight somewhere so that they could go
through security, get some food from venting machines, potentially fly
to a different city, get food from ventting machines there,

(20:16):
and then fly back home by the end of the day.
So Zach the try guys, walks up to a desk
and says, what's your cheapest flight? And the attendant's like
to where he's like to anywhere, And you could tell
that the gate agent is or the desk agent is confused,
like to Vegas, like sure or Vegas or wherever? Well,

(20:40):
what time? Anytime? And then the next shot is Zach
walking back to the car saying they did not like
that question. I'm like, of course they didn't. If you
walk up to a desk at an airport and say
I want your cheapest flight, I don't care where it
goes or what time it leaves. I just need to
get through security. That's the kind of thing a crazy

(21:02):
person and or terrorists would do. So of course they're
not gonna like you do it. So when I watched that,
I was just I was flabbergasted. I was like, I can't.
This is the sort of thing that gets you put
on lists and I showed it to Becca. Beca was
just like, I can't believe how dumb that was. Generally speaking,
I'll say that episode was not nearly as entertaining as

(21:25):
the year later Game Changers. I thought that was that
was a masterpiece. I agree with you, Ariel. I think
you said that after you watch it, you like, how
the heck did where do they go from here?

Speaker 1 (21:34):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (21:34):
And I get what you mean, because like it was spectacular.
They had a narrative, like there was a story to
it beyond just crazy responses to the prompts.

Speaker 1 (21:47):
Well, you watch I don't know if you watched the
making of it afterwards.

Speaker 2 (21:52):
No, there's like.

Speaker 1 (21:53):
A forty minute making of where they show like the
full Vix musical, which is not that.

Speaker 2 (21:59):
Long, but it feels like it would be, just because
so many different excerpts are shown.

Speaker 1 (22:05):
Yeah, in the episode, so it it's like a twenty
minute sort of a thing. Yeah, but there is just
so much that they cut out of that episode and
then like even just seeing that after the because they
usually cut this out because they played the shows for
the drama and the irritation of it, right, Like they
show people being irritated that they didn't get the game

(22:27):
or that the game is what it is. These they
were so excited to do this episode. They were so
excited for this challenge, and it's delightful to see it.
So I know you've got a lot on your plate
and your watch list is long, but the making of
that episode is also a wonderful, wonderful watch and you
get to see so much more of what they did.

Speaker 2 (22:48):
Well. I would say that if you were thinking about
getting a dropout TV subscription out there, y'all, Game Changers
alone is worth it. Yeah, there's so much on there
beyond Game Changers, and there's a lot. It's a great content,
but I mean, this is some of the best stuff
I've watched in a while. I've also continued to watch
Harley Quinn. But like I said, I'm still several seasons

(23:10):
behind you. I think it's season three that I'm in,
but I'm not. I can't be sure. Like I after
a point, you don't even pay attention because you're just
hitting next episode, right, So I don't really know, but
I think it's season three. I know it's after season
two at least, so it's either three or later. Still

(23:31):
enjoying that one other thing I want to mention that
I tried a little bit of but haven't really been
able to dive into again because I don't have a
computer that can properly play this game. I just thought
maybe I could based upon the little I knew about
it turns out I'm wrong. I played a little bit
of blue Prints.

Speaker 1 (23:50):
Everybody I know has been loving that game. I can't
touch it because it's a puzzle game, and I will
feel so dumb.

Speaker 2 (23:57):
It's not that bad. It makes me think a lot
of betrayal at the House on the Hill as far
as the game mechanics are concerned, because the basic idea
and I'm not going to talk too much about it
because it's the type of game that benefits from exploration
and experimentation, so I don't want to rob anyone of
that joy. But the idea is that you have been

(24:19):
willed this estate, and it's a mansion that has forty
five rooms, and your goal is to get to the
forty sixth room of this forty five room mansion, which
I don't understand how that works, but that's how it's presented.
And you start off in an entry way and it's

(24:41):
like a tile. So this is how it's like betrayal.
On the House of the Hill, it's like a tile
and then it's just blackness all around you. And then
somewhere else on the map you see where there is
a forty sixth room. So on your turn you draw
a tile, and that tile you can then place somewhere

(25:01):
in the darkness to take up another room. But it
may be that that tile is like an L shaped corridor,
so it means you're gonna have to make a turn,
and you want to make sure you position the tile
in such a way where it doesn't dead into a
wall or something else where it can hopefully get you
closer to your goal. So part of it is luck based. Also,

(25:23):
different rooms have different qualities to them, and sometimes linking
up rooms will enhance those qualities, like they'll work together
in order to give you better chances to make it
to the end. And I only got to play a
little bit of it, but it was clear my computer

(25:43):
couldn't handle it. I was getting visual artifacts that were
making it impossible to play where I couldn't see the UI,
that kind of stuff, so I had to stop. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
I was able to play for like fifteen minutes and
then it just got to a point where I was like,
I can't even see the tile to be able to
choose which one I want to be my next one.

(26:04):
I can click randomly and get a tile, but I
don't know what it is and until I place it,
and then it may be that it was exactly the
wrong tile, Like it's just a dead end, that kind
of thing. But I also love that the title is
a pun blue prints.

Speaker 1 (26:24):
I just got that.

Speaker 2 (26:26):
Yeah, it took me a bit before it hit me. Anyway,
That's what I've been up to mostly. I've just been
working and doing my best not to go insane whenever
I'm not working, and it mostly involves me watching lots
of YouTube instead of watching longer form narrative content.

Speaker 1 (26:44):
I get it, I get it. I just had to
re up my my list of like shows what I
want to watch because I want to watch Bondsman, I
want to watch the Studio, I want to watch murder Bot.
I want to watch you know, the first episodeisode, or
I want to watch the show that's the first article
on our sixty seconds or less. I've only seen the

(27:06):
first episode so far.

Speaker 2 (27:07):
Ah, And that's a great segue for us to go
to sixty seconds or less, and I have the first story.
So some sad news for Mythic Quest fans like me
and now Ariel. After four seasons, Apple TV Plus has
canceled the series. There is a silver lighting, however, to
this dark cloud. The final episode of season four originally

(27:28):
aired on March twenty sixth, and it ended in a cliffhanger,
but Apple actually gave the show creators the chance to
re edit the episode and create an ending that has
more closure to it. So now Mythic Quest has two
different endings. I have not yet seen them, but I'm
looking forward to it.

Speaker 1 (27:46):
I think that's really cool. So, like I'm sad it's canceled.
Four seasons is not a bad run, but I'm glad
they were given the opportunity to close it up the
way they wanted. Next news, this is going to be
a real quick one. Harry Potter TV show is casting,
has a not so a lot of casting, and it's
a lot of actors that I love their work. So

(28:07):
I'm really said that I don't want to watch the show.
John Lidgow as Albus Dumbledore, Jenet McTeer as Minerva McGonagall
a Sidu sever Snape and Nick Frost.

Speaker 2 (28:17):
As Rebus Hagrid.

Speaker 1 (28:18):
I did have a friend who's like, you can't, you
can't recast sever snape, And of course you can. It's
it's just going to be a completely different thing for
a different audience. In that audience is not me.

Speaker 2 (28:29):
Yeah. Also you have to because if you don't recast,
it is a tub corpse, which fits within Harry Potter.
But stuff, yeah, uh rip all right, Alan rickuinn we
loved you. Oh I so rip Harry Potter. Well. Also
that when Star Wars first hit theaters in nineteen seventy seven,
it did not have a subtitle. There was no a

(28:50):
New Hope. Moss Eisley wasn't merely as populated. Job of
the Hut didn't show up at all. Han shot first,
and in June the British Film Institute's Film On Festival
will screen a rare print of this original cut of
the movie, something you can otherwise only see if you
happen to have a ratty old VHS version. Will more

(29:11):
screenings follow, Only one can have.

Speaker 1 (29:15):
A New Hope, clever pun I really hope so, because
I don't want to have to take up cat Burglary
to get that print. Speaking of Star Wars, from May,
the fourth Lego is releasing nine new Star Wars sets.
None of them are as big as or brilliant as

(29:36):
like the Atat or the Millennium Falcon.

Speaker 2 (29:40):
Like the really Giant One, or the Death Star or
the Death Star.

Speaker 1 (29:43):
But there are some cute ones. You're getting Django FETs,
Fire Spray Starship, my favorite, the Star Wars logo. I
don't know why, but that one appeals to me and
is something like I would decorate with. You can also
get an astromech droid or Kylo Ren's helmet or Django
Fett's helmet, or a command Kylo Ren's Command shuttle, which

(30:06):
is like, I don't know, like their fancy.

Speaker 2 (30:09):
One, but it's not that great.

Speaker 1 (30:11):
A you wing then like some brickheads, which I'll admit
I like some of the brickheads, but not these.

Speaker 2 (30:21):
Well the head haunchos that Warner Brothers gave an interview
with Deadline in which they revealed some rather unsurprising but
potentially welcome news. For one, there are plans for a
third Beetle Juice movie. Presumably it'll be titled Beetle Juice,
Beetle Juice, Beetle Juice. I hope it is a good movie.
I hope it has at least one plot, fewer than
the last one did, and even less of a surprise

(30:43):
than that is. There are plans for a seql to
the Minecraft movie. Here's hoping for fewer chickens released into
theaters for that one.

Speaker 1 (30:50):
For sure, they should name I realized it should be
beetle Juice, beetle Juice, beetle Juice, but they should name
the third beetle Juice movie thritle Juice. Okay, I love it,
unlike I was just okay about beal Juice too. But anyhow, yes,

(31:13):
oh golly, hey, Ariel, you have a brain. This is
our last sixty second or last I had to confirm. Okay.
Sam Neil, who is responsible for a good quarter of
my positive serotonin lately because his TikTok farm videos are amazing,
has joined the next Godzilla times Godzilla in Kong. It's

(31:33):
Godzilla x Kong movie, The New Empire. We still don't
really know what the story is about, but we know
that he's joining Caitlyn Dinner and Jack O'Connell and Dan Stevens.
That's a great cast for a popcorn hi high production
value but b quality story. Monster movie.

Speaker 2 (31:56):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (31:57):
I actually don't know the story. Maybe it's the best
one of them. Ye. I do know that Grant's Putty
Ptore is set to direct. But when I read the
article on the Hollywood Reporter, his last name is spelled
sp u t o r E, and I read it
as spoot Or, and I thought he was going to
be the villain.

Speaker 2 (32:15):
So, M yeah, I think I wrote uh, King Kong
ex Godzilla simply because I don't know that they're going
to fight each other, so I don't know if it'll
be a versus or a team up.

Speaker 1 (32:28):
They're teaming up according to the Hollywood Reporter. But the
Hollywood Reporter article it's also Godzilla x Kong.

Speaker 2 (32:35):
Got it okay, So it wasn't just me. Yeah. Well,
moving on to our actual stories. Oh well, first of all,
I forgot we have our ur doesn't quite fit our storyline.
But we're gonna talk about them real quick.

Speaker 1 (32:49):
We can skip them if you want.

Speaker 2 (32:50):
Nope, nope, we made the wet went through the trouble
of watching them and writing them down. We're gonna talk
about him real quick. So first up, we've got a
comedy that is about a bunch of middle aged couples
in various stages of their well, one of the one
of those a middle aged man and a young woman,

(33:12):
but a bunch of couples that are in various stages
in their relationships all getting together. It's called Four Seasons.
This was one that Ariel brought to the table.

Speaker 1 (33:21):
Yeah, it's it's a bunch of well known comedians who
have been known for kind of their out there kind
of comedy just being relatable and showing, you know, real
relationships and the ups and downs of it. And it's
it's nice to have something a little grounded from these people.
So it just hit a good spot the trailer.

Speaker 2 (33:43):
Yeah, so you got like Tina Fey and Steve Correll
and now people like that, Like like Ariel was saying,
like I had mentioned when we were chatting offline, that
that it was it felt like it was a bunch
of comedians who are known for more transgressive works and
now they're kind of creating their mellow middle age versions

(34:04):
of comedy, and it's it's slightly less edgy, like it's
still going to be like I'm sure it's not gonna
be all like soft corners and everything, but it does
feel like it's perhaps less risky than some of their
earlier work.

Speaker 1 (34:19):
Yeah, but much like I love Gosh, I can't remember
his name all of a sudden, Why can't I remember
his name? Oh? Shoot, Donna Noble and The Tenth Doctor's
relationship because it shows just a healthy relationship on TV
that isn't romantic. I kind of like this. I mean,

(34:40):
they're definitely like couples in this, and some of them
definitely have problems, but it shows you know that even
good relationships have their ups and downs, and that's not
necessarily bad and it's just something you work through. So
at least from the trailer again.

Speaker 2 (34:56):
I also mentioned that this is a series as opposed
to just a film.

Speaker 1 (35:00):
Oh I thought it was a film.

Speaker 2 (35:02):
It's a series, Yeah, comedy mini series. Yeah, it's actually
it's based off a nineteen eighty one movie. But this
is a mini series. And like Tina Fey, Steve Carell,
Will Fortes in it, Coleman Domingo is in it.

Speaker 1 (35:18):
Yeah it.

Speaker 2 (35:20):
I also Alan Alda is a guest on it, which
is very funny because he was in the original film.

Speaker 1 (35:26):
So I'm gonna be real honest. Sometimes when I see
these and I watch it, I don't. I'm like, ah,
this is cute, but it doesn't fit, so I don't
look more into it.

Speaker 2 (35:34):
So I understand how I didn't look more into it
until just now. So I don't want to make it
seem like I knew all this going into it. I
did not, And I was unaware of the earlier movie
That was not one of the ones I watched when
I was a kid, even though it did come out
in I think eighty one, So yeah, that was that
was one. We saw Another one that Ariel put in here,

(35:54):
which was funny because I recognized what this was after
I watched the trailer, but I wasn't aware that it
was happening. Is The Roses, which stars Benedict Cumberbatch and
Olivia Coleman as a couple who on the outside everyone thinks,
you know, it's a successful and relatively happy couple that

(36:15):
turns out things are not going well in their relationship.
And after I watched the trailer, I thought, huh, the Roses.
This seems like really similar to War of the Roses,
which I'm familiar with as a film that had Michael
Douglas and Kathleen Turner in it, and it was directed

(36:35):
and has a sporting role played by Danny DeVito. So
DeVito directed it and appears in it as a supporting character.
And I thought, oh, this looks a lot like this
reminds me of War of the Roses a lot. And
then I looked into it and realized, oh, this is
This is an adaptation of the novel War of the Roses,
which was also the source for the film in the

(36:57):
eighties that I was thinking of. And then I told Ariel,
I know how this movie ends.

Speaker 1 (37:02):
I see I've never watched One of the Roses, so
I don't know how it ends.

Speaker 2 (37:08):
Sadly, Okay, well.

Speaker 1 (37:10):
This film, yeah, it's brutal. The trailer is brutal for
the Roses, it said, maybe not as much as the original.

Speaker 2 (37:19):
Well, the original has a particularly rough ending, but it's
a satire. It's a black comedy, so it is a comedy,
but it's dark and it's based on like a couple
really just going to war with each other. And yeah,

(37:40):
so we'll see how that is. I probably won't watch it, honestly,
because I've seen One of the Roses, so I don't
need to see this.

Speaker 1 (37:47):
I probably won't watch it. I really only added it
because Olivia Coleman and Benedict Cumberbatch and some people are
actor geeks and they like watching things like entire catalogs
of actor work. But speaking of dark what did you
think of? The next doesn't quite fit.

Speaker 2 (38:05):
Trailer, So that was for Sharp Corner. Another one that
Ariel brought to the table, and the story is that
there's a family. They've moved into a new house, but
their house is on a curve where a surprising number
of car accidents happen, so that there are accidents that

(38:27):
happen in front of their house on a fairly regular basis,
including one that's a fatality. And yeah, I thought this
was a pretty interesting premise for a film. Like there's
a character who, like the husband of this family, wants
to do something like he wants to feel like he

(38:49):
has some sense of agency for this effect that the
road happens to have and either help prevent accidents or
perhaps respond to them. I can't tell him for sure
if he's completely altruistic or if he just wants to
be a hero. I'm not sure from the trailer, because
there's one moment in the trailer where I was like, huh,

(39:11):
that seems like something that's meant to ensure an accident
actually happens.

Speaker 1 (39:17):
I think that's the Yeah, it's kind of a misery
level mindset.

Speaker 2 (39:23):
It feels like, yeah, but that he wants to be
maybe the hero who responds to it. It's it's hard
to say based upon this trailer because obviously the trailer
doesn't give everything away, but it is an interesting premise
for a movie. And like the wife is becoming more
and more concerned or frustrated by her husband because she

(39:44):
feels that he's becoming far too fixated on this accident
thing rather than other aspects of his life that he
should be focusing on. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (39:52):
It originally released in twenty twenty four November at the
Toronto Film Festival, but it's hitting theaters for wide release
this year, so that's why we're just seeing the trailer now.
It stars Ben Foster, who was Angel in X Men,
The Last Stand and Kobe Smothers who was Robin Scherbotsky
and How I Met Your Mother, and also Maria hillni Avengers.

(40:13):
So yeah, that's the vague connect connectivity to the geek sphere.

Speaker 2 (40:20):
Then we've got a trailer for California King, which is
another comedy. It actually reminds me. I can't think of
any names off the top of my head, but the
basic idea is, well, actually, it kind of reminds me
of The Fantastics, the musical The Fantastics in that what's
that I've never watched The Fantastics, it's I don't you

(40:43):
probably enjoy parts of it like it's it's one of
those that was made in the time where it's like,
let's create a story that on the surface seems like
it's gonna be sort of a fun, whimsical, absurd comedy,
but then there's like kind of real dark stuff, not

(41:04):
like super dark, but like serious stuff underneath. Think of
something like Into the Woods something along those lines, right,
especially with the two act structure, Like the first act
of The Fantastics, everything's great and the second act things
are not so great. But a spoiler alert for a
movie or a show that's been out since the nineteen sixties.
But anyway, the California King, you have a character he's

(41:25):
got a crush on a young woman and he's trying
to figure out a way to be able to connect
with her and comes up with the clever idea of
faking a kidnapping of her younger brother, getting the younger
brother's involvement, you know, his consent essentially to be part
of this, but in order to try and rise to

(41:47):
the level of being a hero to impress and or
win over the young woman. It looks very silly. The
protagonist has a very dumb, supportive friend helping him out
with this kind of stuff, who is mostly there to
make things worse.

Speaker 1 (42:06):
Yeah. Yeah, it looks cute. Honestly, it feels like one
of those movies we'd get in the late nineties, early
two thousands.

Speaker 2 (42:13):
Yeah. No, I totally even as early as the eighties,
I could see this premise being floated.

Speaker 1 (42:20):
Yeah, but it stars Travis Bennett, Joel McHale, Victoria Justice,
a bunch of very funny actors.

Speaker 2 (42:25):
So Joel McHale is playing someone who you don't want
to mess with, like the protagonist is having to pretend
to be the kidnapper, and then Joel McHale turns out
to be a really bad customer who gets involved in
all this and they are quickly in over their heads.

Speaker 1 (42:44):
Yeah, and other actors who I think are a little
less pervasive but also very funny. So this one I
might actually watch the.

Speaker 2 (42:54):
Next one on our list, California King. Oh yeah, well
the next one is a document I was surprised to
see you put this in there, although I get it
like a lot of the celebrities who are taking part
in this have been very much in the geek sphere
in one thing or another.

Speaker 1 (43:11):
Yeah. So it is a documentary about regenerative farming, which
is I mean, just kind of a cool topic. Anyhow,
it looks like an interesting documentary on better farming practices
because you know, you hear you hear a lot of
a lot of times about how that's one area that
needs a lot of improvement.

Speaker 2 (43:31):
Yeah, agriculture in general, agriculture.

Speaker 1 (43:33):
In general, and it's nice to see people kind of
delivering some possible solutions with some possible science behind it.
But yeah, it's got a it's got a very geeky
group of actors working on it, including Jason Momoa and
Oh Whatdie Harrelson.

Speaker 2 (43:50):
And ros Dawson. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (43:53):
Yeah, so it just looks interesting. So yeah, I put
it in there because it doesn't it's not super geeky
unless agricultural science is geeky to you, but which I mean,
I guess, I mean it is science yeah, you know,
it's not pop culture geeky, but I want to watch it,
so I put it in there.

Speaker 2 (44:13):
Yeah. And then last on, this is one of those
that could have potentially gone into our actual lineup because
it's a horror movie and it's a slasher horror movie.
I didn't put it in there because I feel like
I've been torturing Aerial with horror movie trailers a lot.

Speaker 1 (44:29):
So then again and again, slasher. I like things that
have like a possible like supernatural bent to them or fantastical.

Speaker 2 (44:37):
I mean I do too, but a lot of slasher
movies I would argue, at least imply that because often
the slasher absorbs so much damage that it would kill
an actual person, and therefore they must be supernatural. I
get it.

Speaker 1 (44:51):
The horror movie that completely scar One of the horror
movies that completely scarred me on horror movies was the
original Candy Man. And yes, that heroin bleeds more blood
than is in a human body.

Speaker 2 (45:03):
Well, yeah's also supernatural. I mean, yes, that is.

Speaker 1 (45:09):
Fair, that is true. Uh yeah, no, I mean, but
I also argue that Diehard is a Christmas movie. So
there we go. Anyway, We're not.

Speaker 2 (45:16):
Going to relitigate that we've already had that discussion.

Speaker 1 (45:19):
Look, I can think that you can think that generic
slashers are geeky. I get that they have entire and
they have entire conventions devoted to them. It is not
my thing. But I didn't watch his trailer, So Go
So So Pretty Boy.

Speaker 2 (45:32):
The premise is that there's a group of young people
who get together for a gathering where no couples are allowed.
It's all singles, all people who are single, and you know, obviously,
like there's the implication that the idea is that you're
going to end up hooking up with somebody, or maybe
maybe even something more substantial than just hooking up. But

(45:56):
the person who's essentially hosting the party is coming across
as kind of a party boy character. And then while
at this like singles retreat, which is taking place in
a big house, a killer wearing a kind of plastic mask,
the pretty boy mask is going around and killing people

(46:20):
and wreaking havoc and stuff, and it kind of looks
like it's a slasher with some humor in it. I
wouldn't call it a horror comedy based on the trailer.
I would say it's a horror movie that has some
humor in it, you know, maybe maybe something even a
little less campy than Thanksgiving was. But you know, in

(46:45):
that same general neighborhood, I didn't think it was particularly gripping,
Like it didn't really na nag nab me man, I'm
having like the same sort of brain misfires. Yeah, I
didn't grab me. Also, I want to say I could
be wrong about this, and apologies if I am, But

(47:06):
to my recollection, I didn't recognize any of the actors involved,
which made me feel like this is one of those
very low budget horror movies. I think lions Gate is
behind it. I also think it's going straight to digital distribution.
I don't think this is getting a theatrical release, so
you know, I think there's a I think there's a

(47:27):
space for movies like that. I don't want to like
dismiss this film out of hand, but it doesn't feel
particularly groundbreaking to me. It may be a really good
slasher movie, but it doesn't feel like it's bringing anything
particularly special to the table. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (47:44):
I realized we've talked way way longer about these in
sixty seconds, but that's okay. I I I have nothing
against like movies that have no name actors, because eventually
many of many, some of those actors become named like
r Ignizable later on.

Speaker 2 (48:01):
Right, you got to start somewhere.

Speaker 1 (48:03):
I appreciate people casting casting new talent.

Speaker 2 (48:09):
I mean, if you if you go on the Disney
Cruise Line and you watch the old behind the scenes
videos of the Disney Cruise ships, you're going to see
an actor on there who would later grow up to
become Wednesday Adams. Oh really yeah? Oh okay, no, no,
well not the original Disney Cruise Line is not that old.

(48:30):
It came started in nineteen ninety eight.

Speaker 1 (48:32):
I don't I don't know when the Disney Cruise Line started. No,
it's a thing, okay, ninety eight or eighty eight, ninety eight, okay, anyhow.

Speaker 2 (48:42):
Yeah, I went in ninety nine, the year after they
had launched. Nice.

Speaker 1 (48:46):
I have yet to go because it's a very expensive
cruise and I've got to do electrical in my house.

Speaker 2 (48:53):
So we Yeah, you've got priorities, yes, yes, right here
in River City. Well, let's let's talk about the stuff
that's actually on our lineup for realsies, because we still
have a whole bunch of stories to get there and
this is going to be another epic episode.

Speaker 1 (49:08):
Yeah, it is.

Speaker 2 (49:10):
So.

Speaker 1 (49:10):
The first is one that Jonathan mentioned, which is Hollywood
is afraid of losing all of its filming stuff and
specifically like post production and scoring.

Speaker 2 (49:21):
Seems they've already been on decline for shooting days, so
like fewer projects are shooting in Hollywood already. That's been
a thing for a while, but now it's going beyond
just the actual shooting.

Speaker 1 (49:35):
Yeah, and like part of this is so they're basically
long story short there because I have so many feels
on this. They're they're putting in tax incentives and things
like that to encourage projects to stay in LA. Inherently,
I don't have issues with that. I personally like that

(49:55):
there's so much stuff filming in Atlanta because that's where
I am, and especially in the new contract modified, I
believe that modified regional hire is no longer a thing,
so I can't even say, hey, I live within five
hundred miles of this place to be considered a local hire,
and a lot of product productions need local hires for

(50:17):
certain roles, so it is harder now for me to
get a role in LA if they're looking for local
hires because I don't have an address out there, and
I don't have somebody I can live with and claim
their address, it.

Speaker 2 (50:31):
Doesn't count for me.

Speaker 1 (50:32):
So and I would have to in that case, I'd
have to also pay for my own flight, so it'd
have to be a good gig for me to even
do it. So like, I don't mind that stuff is
leaving la and coming to Atlanta. That being said, I
don't want their film industry to die. Also, there is
less stuff filming everywhere right now because streaming channels are

(50:53):
consolidating and going under and like that heyday of let's
make all the content ever is not here right now.
And then a lot of stuff is being filmed out
of the country as well, for various reasons that I
won't get into, so a.

Speaker 2 (51:06):
Lot mostly because it's cheaper.

Speaker 1 (51:09):
Yeah, a lot of stuff is filming in UK and
Australia and stuff like in Canada, Eastern Europe, Eastern Europe.
So yeah, I actually just had a conversation with my agent.
I'm like, hey, if you ever see anything from the UK,
I'm willing. I'm willing to put that travel bill to
do UK work because I I personally would love to do.

Speaker 2 (51:28):
Some BBC stuff.

Speaker 1 (51:30):
They hire a wide range of people and looks and
ages and body types, and that's always appealed to me.
But as I'd be playing an American character, I know
I can't do a British accent that well, not without
a lot of coaching. So that's my thoughts. Jonathan, I'm
sorry I have rampled on.

Speaker 2 (51:51):
No, I mean, my thoughts are are largely the same.
I mean, I would say that a lot of the
factors that have impacted the world at law charge have
also impacted Hollywood. So like you look at the pandemic
and how that forced everyone to go to a work
from home model for the most part. And when I
say everyone, I don't really mean everyone. Obviously there were

(52:13):
a lot of people who were still having to go
to a different location in order to do their jobs,
and I don't want to diminish that at all. But
what I do mean to say is that different businesses
had to adapt because they could not do business the
way they had been out of the necessity. And then
it turns out that once you are able to create
that process, you might say, well, why am I doing

(52:36):
business in this one part of the country where it
is particularly expensive to do that? When I could go
to a different part of the country or even a
different country altogether, and thus make my production dollars stretch
further because it's not as expensive. And I mean, that's
a large reason why Georgia became such a big filming hub,
is that Georgia, the state of Georgia, put in tons

(52:59):
of it incentives to attract different productions to shoot here.
And now other regions. I mean, George is not the
only one who has ever done this. Vancouver has been
doing it for years, but lots of other regions are
doing similar things, and not just in the United States,
and it's very hard for Hollywood to compete with that.
California is a very expensive state to work in and

(53:20):
to live in, so it's not a surprise to me.
I think the thing that's become alarming to the industry
in general is that certain things, like the post production stuff,
almost always happened in Hollywood, right, like all the editing
and scoring, like the things you were mentioning Ariel, that

(53:42):
almost always happened out of Los Angeles, And now that
is no longer necessarily the case, and it's it's scary
to the people who live and work in California to see,
because the fear is that it'll reach a point where
it'll be impossible to entice companies to produce back in California.

(54:06):
And you've got all this institutional knowledge built up there,
people who have dedicated their lives to the industry, who
are experts in their field, and they can find themselves
out of work and either have to relocate or change
careers or something because they're just not going to get
enough working days to support themselves. And that's rough. Like

(54:29):
it also means that the productions that continue will not
be able to benefit from their years of experience and expertise.
It doesn't necessarily mean that everything we watch is going
to suddenly diminish in quality. It just means that, like
maybe certain touches just don't happen because the people who
would have brought that to the project, you know, aren't

(54:49):
where they need to be in order to get that work.
So it is interesting, it isn't.

Speaker 1 (54:54):
But also like there are amazing post production people in
Atlanta as well, you know, and like that's I think
it's it's hard because of course I'm very selfish. I
want these productions here so I have a chance to
be a part of them because I love doing this
too me. But if self leaves Atlanta, either I then

(55:16):
have to face relocating or no longer do it. Right
if being an Atlanta actor and auditioning for things in
la isn't something I can do because they have plenty
of talent there, So, like I get it. It is
a very like two sided, like both sides are the

(55:37):
same of the coin. Wherever you are, you're facing that
if somebody else pulls the productions away, you have less hope.

Speaker 2 (55:45):
So it's hard.

Speaker 1 (55:46):
I know that Atlanta is also fighting for post production
and scoring and things like that, because there's I mean,
especially scoring. The musician talent pool in Atlanta is insane, right,
like it's a music or has been for a long
time in music city. So on the one hand, I
love that stuff is spreading out so that more people
get an opportunity to be a part of this industry

(56:08):
that has been so like insular and clicky and things
like that. And on the other hand, I completely understand
people being worried about it. I kind of hope we
can come to a place where everybody can work together
and we can all travel for the jobs that want us,
And I don't see it happening anytime soon, but wouldn't
that be the ideal?

Speaker 2 (56:25):
Yeah, it's it's it's rough. Like partly, I think this
is just the evolution of business in general, and Hollywood
for the longest time was insulated against it. Where you know,
it's sort of the move toward globalization or you're moving
away from localization or regionalization, and you can have a

(56:46):
more distributed approach toward the entire production and in some
ways that's healthy and in a lot of ways it's
giving people opportunities they never would have had otherwise. But
on the flip side, you have this institutional knowledge and
experience that can end up becoming you know, neglected or

(57:09):
set aside. So yeah, there are pros and cons for
all different approaches. And mainly we want to talk about
this because the people in California, they're not just freaking
out about this. They're trying to advocate for solutions that
will entice various movie related industries to continue to do

(57:35):
work out of California. Whether that works or not, we'll
have to see.

Speaker 1 (57:39):
Yeah, I mean, I think it's important to talk about
because a lot of you know, almost the entire rest
of our lineup is and previous to this is about
TV shows and movies, and you know, Hollywood has been
the institution for a lot of that.

Speaker 2 (57:55):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's complicated.

Speaker 1 (58:00):
It is are The arts are not something you do.
The arts are definitely something you do and you stick
with because you're passionate about them.

Speaker 2 (58:10):
Yeah, Or you're really lucky and you make a whole
lot of money and then that becomes your thing. But
for every one person who gets really lucky, there are
thousands who are just toiling away because they love what
they do and if they're lucky, they can make a
living off of it. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (58:29):
Yeah, for sure. Some very lucky people who are probably
about to make a real good living are the actors
in the new Fantastic Four movies. Some of them are
already probably making a very good living.

Speaker 2 (58:41):
Yeah. I think Pedro Pascal is probably fairly comfortable at that.

Speaker 1 (58:44):
I hope he's doing well. I hope he's doing well.

Speaker 2 (58:47):
Yeah, he's got Yeah, he's he's in so much stuff.

Speaker 1 (58:51):
I think it.

Speaker 2 (58:52):
I think it's slowed down a little bit. Like I
want to say, like two years ago was peak Pascal
u although he may surpass that in the future.

Speaker 1 (59:00):
He better make like a hot sauce called peak Pascal.
Given that to you, Pedro, just give us a nod.

Speaker 2 (59:06):
So you haven't watched the the beginning of season two
of Last of Us yet, have you?

Speaker 1 (59:12):
I haven't. I need to watch that, and I need
to watch the first couple of episodes of Doctor Who
because the cartoon one that you and I were both
interested in, either just came out or is coming out
this week.

Speaker 2 (59:23):
So is Pedro Pascal in that? No? But why are
you bringing it up?

Speaker 1 (59:27):
Because you you mentioned you mentioned a show that had
just started dropping episodes.

Speaker 2 (59:35):
Right because Pedro Pascal is in it and we were talking.

Speaker 1 (59:38):
Yes, So you're like, hey, have you watched the new
episodes of the season. No, I haven't. I haven't watched
the new episodes of anything that I want to be
watching yet.

Speaker 2 (59:45):
Okay, well, I'm just giving Ariel a hard time.

Speaker 1 (59:48):
But yeah, because Pedro, I diss you out and I
have to be able to take it.

Speaker 2 (59:52):
He's in Fantastic four obviously. Yeah, we got a trailer
that actually gave us a look at the Silver Surfer
as well as Galactus's foot, and we got to see
more of the characters. We get to see an exchange
that reveals that Sioux Storm is Pregger's and that the

(01:00:12):
Fantastic Four obviously have been an established group of heroes
in this version of their world, and that they are
known as like Earth's Defenders. As we've said before, this
version of the Fantastic Four is set in kind of
a nineteen fifties slash sixties era of Earth, like an
alternate version of Earth. And yeah, I thought the trailer

(01:00:37):
looked looked good. I'm still curious to see if Galactus
can come across as an interesting antagonist or if it's
just gonna be really hokey. Like hokey is sort of okay,
because that's kind of the vibe they're doing. Yeah, well,
it's the vibe of the comic book, especially like the original,

(01:00:59):
Like it's that era of science fiction where people are
like coming up with really weird ideas and running with them,
and so it's fitting in many ways. I don't know
how it'll play to a modern audience. I'm curious about that.
I think I've said on past episodes that I'm not

(01:01:20):
the biggest fan of Fantastic Four, Like I appreciate them,
but I don't have any real love in my heart.
For those characters. This trailer still hasn't quite like caught
my attention to the point where I've changed my opinion,
but I'm curious. I definitely will see this movie at

(01:01:41):
some point.

Speaker 1 (01:01:42):
Yeah. The thing I like about this trailer because I'm
also not a huge Fantastic four. I mean, I like
Ben gram right, I do like him, but like, it's
not one of the stories that I've followed more closely.
I will say that the trailer, especially this one, gives
it like a very like it feels like there's going
to be a lot of heart and a lot of
hope in it, even dealing with Galactus and all that.

(01:02:05):
So if they keep that the tone, then I think
it'll be a really nice but like a in a
not I think it'll be a really nice juxtaposition to
a lot of the Marvel stuff we've gotten. I will say,
and this is just the fault of the character and
not the fault of Marvel. Mister fantastic stretching still looks

(01:02:27):
real dumb.

Speaker 2 (01:02:29):
Yeah, I mean, it's a superpower that's hard to do
in a way that doesn't look stupid, unless like, unless
the whole world is a cartoon. Allah, the Incredibles, right, So,
but I am eager to see how this fits into
the overall MCU, even though I feel like that that

(01:02:51):
obsession of getting everything to fit together has in the
long run sort of hurt MCU. Like the longer it goes,
the more It's just like the comic books. The longer
it goes, the messier it gets, until it reaches a
point where there kind of needs to be a reset,
which makes me wonder if Avenger's Secret Wars will do that,
if we're going to get essentially a universe reset at

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the end of Secret Wars.

Speaker 1 (01:03:16):
I also wonder if the Fantastic Four is going to
have to abandon their universe and come to a different one.

Speaker 2 (01:03:20):
Well, they are Those actors have been announced for Avengers Doomsday,
so we do know that there's some and Doctor Doom
himself is a classic Fantastic Four villain. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:03:30):
Yeah, but I'll be interested to see how they tie together.
I do have probably a divisive opinion about this trailer,
but not where you would think it would be. So Like,
I have friends that are worried that a bunch of
people are going to uproar about Shalibal being the Silver Server.
I don't have any problems with that. I like Julia Greer.

(01:03:53):
I think she's a great I think that's the actress's name.

Speaker 2 (01:03:55):
I believe so, Juliet Gardner, sorry Garner.

Speaker 1 (01:03:58):
I think she's a fantas plastic actress. I think she
will do a great job. I you know, it's it fits.
It's happened in the comics, so whatever any uproar, I
think that might have happened. I hope happened when they
announced her and I blissfully missed it. But looking at
her design, it's very pretty, but I don't know that

(01:04:19):
it I would expect the silver Surfer to look a
little bit better than the last time I saw the
silver Surfer in a movie, and I don't think that
it does. Like I'm looking at the last silver Surfer
in her side by side and something they've done with
her face. Maybe it's giving the darker around the eyes
in the mouth to make it look either to make definition,

(01:04:42):
to get more definition, or to give it a little
bit of a feminine touch of like makeup. Almost probably definition,
but it kind of does both. Makes it look more
cartoony than the older CGI.

Speaker 2 (01:04:54):
Yeah, it's a hard again, it's a hard character to
to do in a live action film, because you know,
essentially you're talking about, hey, let's take a person who's
in good shape and cover them in chrome. Yeah. I don't.
I get irritated by people who have the knee jerk
negative reaction of why are we getting a female Silver

(01:05:18):
Surfer because I think nine of those this is my guess,
is my opinion, but ninety nine percent of the people
who object to that probably have never even bothered to
read a Silver Surfer comic anyway. I'm like, what's your
stake in this, dude, Like, why are you mad? Like
if you if you're not like a hardcore Silver Surfer fan,
then why does it matter if they're going with the

(01:05:41):
female version versus the male one, Because there have been
both in the comics, although inarguably the male Silver Surfer
is the better known of the two, but still they
have been both, so that's still comics accurate. It's just
I do get irritated by that because I suspect a
lot of the people who object don't have any real

(01:06:04):
like love for the Silver Surfer in the first place.
They just hate seeing something go to a woman.

Speaker 1 (01:06:10):
Yeah, And that's what a lot of my friends have
been worried about that. Being said, I haven't seen a lot.

Speaker 2 (01:06:14):
Of uproar about it. That's like I think when that
was first announced, I saw some like like YouTube would
occasionally suggest to me reaction videos or you know, pop
culture commentary kind of videos. And there's a wide spectrum

(01:06:36):
of creators out there who do those kind of things.
But there are a ton of very judgmental, very hyperbolic, reactive,
white male creators who who seem to just go out
of their way to express outrage over anything that isn't

(01:06:58):
catering directly to them.

Speaker 1 (01:07:00):
I guess in the past I have seen that has
been so much more pervasive in like in like the
news to me like this one has totally like this
outrage has totally missed me, which makes me hope that
it is a smaller subset of people.

Speaker 2 (01:07:16):
It may be it may just be a YouTube's algorithm
that is trying to make me lose my mind, and
unfortunately I haven't I haven't figured out a way to
tell YouTube, hey, stop recommending this to me. I guessterday,
I got a recommendation not this doesn't have to do
with pop culture, but I got a recommendation of a
video that was ultra conservative, and I thought, you know what,

(01:07:40):
if you have ultraconservative beliefs or whatever, that's your right.
That is not how I see the world. So why
are you serving this to me? Do you not.

Speaker 1 (01:07:51):
Click, not interested, or don't recommend this channel when those
pop up?

Speaker 2 (01:07:54):
I do for the videos, but you can't like like
there's It'll still get those sort of things will still
get recommended to me. It may not be that particular channel,
but similar ones will still get recommended to me because
of my habit of watching a lot of pop culture content.
So I think that YouTube is looking at it. It
makes me think. Patton oswaldt used to have this routine

(01:08:16):
about TiVo about how TVO would think you liked certain
kinds of things because you watch something that had an
aspect of that in it. So he talked about how
he would he stayed up late and used TVO to
record a bunch of old Westerns, so you watch Westerns.
But then TVO got it into its head that I
like horses because horses are in Westerns. So suddenly Divo

(01:08:38):
recorded a ton of stuff that had horses in it
that I don't have any interest in. And the routine
is very funny. But that's how kind of how I feel.
How YouTube is, gotcha, I uh yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:08:49):
I spend a lot of time curating my feed. If
something stuff I don't like, I very much am like,
don't don't give me this channel, don't give me this video,
but like it doesn't You're right, it doesn't always work,
especially for me on Instagram. My Instagram reels because I'm
on there because it's a marketing tool are always horrible.

(01:09:14):
My for you page is the algorithm is so off,
and no matter how many videos I click, I don't
like this.

Speaker 2 (01:09:20):
I don't like this.

Speaker 1 (01:09:21):
Please don't show this to me again. It makes me uncomfortable.

Speaker 2 (01:09:23):
I don't like it.

Speaker 1 (01:09:25):
It doesn't fix And then I will completely reset the
algorithm and just watch a bunch of videos I like,
and it still sends me a bunch of crap. It
like hates me.

Speaker 2 (01:09:34):
That's fine.

Speaker 1 (01:09:34):
I don't watching the reels they send me. I do
that on TikTok because the TikTok algorithm gets me. I know,
I know, I don't care.

Speaker 2 (01:09:42):
Okay, yeah, I'm not any of that because I just
got fed up with all the companies behind it. But
I understand entirely what you're saying. I don't judge you
for being on any of them. I just for my
own mental health and need to feel like I'm not
contributing to companies that I have fundamental issues with. It
was to the point where I was like, I just

(01:10:04):
I got a jump. I gotta pull the eject button. Yeah,
not the eject button, the eject cord. Speaking of chords,
that has nothing to do with our next story. We
got a little kind of a behind the scenes feature
on the new Jurassic Park film, and I say kind
of because no useful information was given at all in

(01:10:27):
this feature that Ariel put on our lineup. It was
all things like it's incredible, It's incredible, It's the most
incredible thing you've ever seen. Like this is the same
thing you get behind every behind the scenes of every dr.

Speaker 1 (01:10:39):
That's not what they're saying. What they're saying specifically, and
this is why I added it. I mean, they are
saying it's incredible, but they're also saying, hey, all you
people who wrote off Jurassic Park because the subsequent movies
after the first did not appeal and you thought they
were lower. Part this goes back to the thing you
loved in the original. This is going to be like
the original. Please please give us another chance, pretty please,

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with a cherry on top, which I find amusing because
they have done so many movies after the first and
so many movies after Jurassic World, the Jurassic World reboot
that I'm just like, I am curious if they can
achieve what they are trying to promote.

Speaker 2 (01:11:25):
Yeah, I get it, Like it was giving me sort
of flashbacks to the behind the scenes stuff for I
think it was the second of the Jurassic World movies
where like the go to phrase was there are more
dinosaurs than have ever been in a movie before, that
kind of thing. And I was watching this and I
was just like, oh my gosh, I hate this behind

(01:11:47):
the scenes kind of stuff because we're not really getting
a look behind the scenes. It's just a promotion for
the film. It's not serving two roles where it's promoting
the film and also giving you a look behind this scene.
It's really just promoting the film without being a totally
new trailer that's been recut. That being said, like, I

(01:12:09):
wish no ill will toward the movie and if it
does kind of harken back to the vibes of the
first film. That's great. I've only ever I think I've
only ever watched the first movie and most of the
second one. I don't think I've seen any of the
other Jurassic Park or Jurassic World movies. It's largely because

(01:12:32):
I got the feeling early on that everything I needed
out of that world I got in the first film,
and like the stuff that was that followed just didn't
feel as appealing to me.

Speaker 1 (01:12:46):
I ended up watching. So the ones I can remember
are Jurassic Park, the original and Jurassic World. I saw
both of those in the theater, and I've seen Jurassic
Park multiple times. It still frightens the snickers out of me.
But the other movies I have ended up watching on

(01:13:08):
like TV when they come in. I don't think I've
watched Dominion, but I've seen like the second or third
Jurassic World movie, or maybe both. I don't I don't
remember because they all they all run together. But I
will say, like I enjoyed Jurassic World. Did it grasp
did it grasp the feel of the original? No, because
that was kind of a first right.

Speaker 2 (01:13:30):
Yeah, there's a joy of discovery that you cannot replicate.

Speaker 1 (01:13:34):
Yeah, yeah, and I mean honestly, like practical, the practical
effects dinosaurs. I mean, it was mixed with CGI even
back then in the original Jurassic Park. Outweigh any CGI dinosaur.

Speaker 2 (01:13:49):
I have ever seen to that. To that end, even
the CGI dinosaurs of the original Jurassic Park still look
pretty darn hood.

Speaker 1 (01:13:58):
Really hold up. Yeah, Like, like we were talking about
the BBC walking with the Dinosaurs the other day, I'm like,
when you can have such what Jurassic Park came out
in the nineties, Yeah, when you can have such good
visuals back then, why.

Speaker 2 (01:14:15):
Is it not so much better now? Yeah? Yeah, No,
I feel you because it's like it's wild to think
about how much time has passed, how much work has
been done in computer science in general, and yet it's
hard to name a movie that uses CGI as effectively

(01:14:37):
as Jurassic Park did. I think largely because they did
mix it in with amazing practical effects, and you had,
you know, you had a genius in Steven Spielberg directing it.
He had the best cinematographers, like it was. It was
a perfect collection of talent to create that first Jurassic

(01:14:59):
Park movie, and most of the projects that have followed.
I don't think anyone has put in as much thought
and effort into the approach, And especially in the business
side of Hollywood, where you're worried about budgets, which makes sense,
but you're also worried about timetables, and so there's a
lot of crunch time, which means you also have to

(01:15:21):
take big, you know, considerations when it comes to how
much work you can put in because you don't have
the time or money to put in as much as
you would like. I think all of those things are
more evident, and so you look at a movie like
Jurassic Park and you're like, man, it's crazy because I
know what is achievable from the technology of those days.

(01:15:44):
It's so sad we're not seeing stuff that blows us
away to the level it should considering the sophistication we
have at our disposal today.

Speaker 1 (01:15:53):
And it's not even always about budget. Like if you
look at beating I don't like this phrase, but I
don't have a better one. I'm beating a dead horse.
Because I've talked about this so many times before. When
you look at District nine, that movie was made with
a small crew, a small budget, and the CGI in

(01:16:15):
that was exceptional, so it's not even fully about budget. Yeah,
but I agree it's.

Speaker 2 (01:16:24):
There.

Speaker 1 (01:16:25):
There was so much new and so much cool and
so much care put into the original that it's just
hard to match that on like because it's trying to
rehash the same success. That being said, if the new
Jurassic Park can find a way to rekindle that spark
and give me something new while giving me the nostalgia like,

(01:16:47):
that would be fantastic.

Speaker 2 (01:16:49):
Yeah. Now, I hope the movie succeeds in every sense
of the word. I hope it succeeds on its vision,
its execution, and you know, financially, and that succeeds among
the fandom. I hope for all of those things. I
am clearly not the right audience to target, simply because
I very much loved the first movie and have had

(01:17:12):
next to no interest in any of the films that followed.
So again, for me, Jurassic Park felt like a one
and done kind of thing. I do you need to
improve a palm perfection? Yeah, just or like the like
the story I wanted to hear was told, and I haven't.
None of the other trailers or anything else I've seen
have convinced me, Oh, here's another story set in that

(01:17:34):
same world. I want to hear this story, Like, none
of those have done that for me, and so you know,
maybe this one ultimately will. But at the moment, I'm
just I remain unconvinced. That's again, not a commentary on
the hard work that has clearly gone into making this movie.

Speaker 1 (01:17:52):
So so along the lines of I've heard this story,
I don't need it, ysh. Is that why you're rolling
your eyes at Juliette Romeo?

Speaker 2 (01:18:00):
Oh my god, this trailer. Oh I wanted to scream
when I watched it. So yeah, we got a trailer
for a musical retelling of Romeo and Juliet this one
called Juliet and Romeo. See how edgy that is. Look,
I don't have an objection to giving Juliette more agency,

(01:18:22):
Like I think that's awesome. I think that's great. But
I watched this trailer and I'm like, oh, it is
the CW version of Romeo and Juliet. The music I
think is awful.

Speaker 1 (01:18:35):
So I have a question for you, and this is
gonna jump us, Like, I have a couple questions for you.
One I agree on the music. Did you like a
Night's Tale.

Speaker 2 (01:18:48):
You know what, I have never watched a Night's Tale.
I My reaction to seeing the trailer in the theater
was again rolling my eyes because like I have no
objec action to people having fun. And clearly a Night's
Tale is a good time and it's got like some
great actors in it. Uh, but it was it was

(01:19:09):
going for a vibe that doesn't appeal to me.

Speaker 1 (01:19:12):
So I will say the same thing I have learned
in appreciation for Night's Tale, But like trying to tell
a modern teeny bopper version of I like medieval fantasy
so much that making it modern loses the charm for me.
Right now, I've seen modern versions of Shakespeare that I

(01:19:33):
absolutely love. I've been in modern versions of Shakespeare that
I absolutely love, but it's it takes. It takes some
fine tuning to be able to get the new setting
in the new time period and the old content to
work well together.

Speaker 2 (01:19:46):
Now, to be clear, this isn't a version of Romeo
and Juliet that's said in modern day, No, but it.

Speaker 1 (01:19:52):
It feels, it feels like everybody's sensibilities, everybody's mannerisms are modern.
Again Night's Tale, or maybe Ella enchanted Ellen Enchanted isn't
as bad. I like it Ella Enchanted, but Ella Enchanted
was flat out a comedy, and also I think benefited.
I know you and I are not huge fans of

(01:20:13):
jukebox musicals, yeah, but I think Ella Enchanted benefited from
having recognizable music.

Speaker 2 (01:20:23):
To fit in there.

Speaker 1 (01:20:25):
I think I haven't seen and Juliet because again, not
a huge fan of jukebox musicals, right, but I feel
like this is just trying to play off of and Juliet,
which is a musical where they give Juliette more agency
without the catchy catchiness of songs.

Speaker 2 (01:20:45):
And it's not It's not Yeah, they're not using recognizable songs.
They're using original songs that are written in that pop
like power pop kind of modern power pop.

Speaker 1 (01:20:55):
Style, which is fine. I'm not like, please give me
new music that I love, but I want to walk
out of a musical trailer not being able to get
a song.

Speaker 2 (01:21:06):
Out of my head. It made me feel like it
was trying to follow in the footsteps of something like
The Greatest Showman. That was the kind of vibe I
was getting from the music side of it.

Speaker 1 (01:21:15):
Except for Greatest Showman music is more catchy than this.

Speaker 2 (01:21:18):
I do not. There's only one the well two one
and a half. There's one and a half songs in
The Great Showmen I actually think are good songs.

Speaker 1 (01:21:27):
I agree, but those are the songs they used in
the trailer. Yeah, so but yeah, this and like so
you've got something later and I'm going to jump down
to it now. Disney gives us the first listen to
Villain's Land expansion.

Speaker 2 (01:21:40):
With a new song.

Speaker 1 (01:21:42):
Disney not always, but like seventy five percent of the
time lands with their orchestration. Yeah, there's something that they
do that when they combine like rock and pop and
this and that, that it just evokes every feel you
want to feel in this song and it catches and
it wiggles into your brain. This didn't do it. And

(01:22:06):
that's the thing. If you're I am super for make
a new musical, Give me a musical of a story
that I like. Rome and Juliet is not my favorite
Shakespeare by far.

Speaker 2 (01:22:16):
And also we already have a musical It's West Side Story.

Speaker 1 (01:22:19):
Yeah, and other things. And also bas Lerrman's Romean. It's
just been Romeo and Juliet is not the best Shakespeare
story and it has been told so many times, including
giving Juliette agency.

Speaker 2 (01:22:31):
I suspect that this is a version that's not going
to have the unhappy ending. I think they're going to
have a happy ending to this because that's the vibe
I'm getting from the trailer.

Speaker 1 (01:22:39):
I think angeliet does too. It really feels like they're
trying to bank off of Angeliette's success. Again, that's fine
if it's your thing. I just feel like, if you're
going to write a musical and you're gonna put that
music into the trailer, you need to really make sure
that it hits.

Speaker 2 (01:22:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:22:56):
I feel like this Syrraho musical had the same issue.

Speaker 2 (01:22:58):
I was just going to say the exact same thing,
you beat me to it. I was gonna make the
same point. There was one song in Sirao, the one
that has Peter Dnkliche playing the lead character. There was
one song in that that I thought was great, and
the rest of it I had to scrub through because
it was.

Speaker 1 (01:23:19):
I found it so distracting, which is a shame because
I like this story of Sierra No de Bergerac and
I was excited for Peter Dnklige. But I can't sit
through that much music and I'm just.

Speaker 2 (01:23:34):
This.

Speaker 1 (01:23:34):
This is the kind of thing that makes me understand
when people have too short of an attention span to
watch a movie, because if the music just sucks and
you have to sit through like forty five minutes of
Hoham music.

Speaker 2 (01:23:44):
Yeah, and again this gets back to that question you
asked me about The Night's Tale, because for me, if
you're going to set something in a particular era, it
doesn't need to have period accurate musical arrangements or whatever,
but something approximating that is more appealing to me than

(01:24:05):
putting a modern soundtrack to that moment. Like whether it's
pairing known music or it's all original music, if it's
done in a style it's modern, it just takes me out.
I don't like it. It bothers me. So like with Syraho,

(01:24:27):
there were like these big dance numbers and kind of
these rock ballads or whatever, and I'm just like, this
just feels wrong. I don't like this. It's same thing
for me, by the way, I had the exact same
reaction that it's not just for movies and TV. I
had the exact same reaction for Something Rotten. I had
the same reaction because with something Rotten, I wanted it

(01:24:48):
to have kind of a renaissance sort of sound to it,
and it totally does not. Now that being said, there
are some numbers in Something Rotten that I truly loved,
but I had to get passed my initial reaction of
why didn't they do orchestration that makes it sound more renaissance.

Speaker 1 (01:25:07):
Did you feel the same way about Spamalot?

Speaker 2 (01:25:09):
No, because spamlat is such a ridiculous, like money python
comedy thing it was, and Spamalot I felt was, I mean,
Something Rotten does the same thing, and that spam Alot
is all about making fun of the musical format. Something
Rotten does that even more overtly, like that is the
plot of Something Rotten. But Spamalot was clearly you know

(01:25:32):
with the song this is the song that goes like
this was making fun of the structure of musicals that
I was okay with that.

Speaker 1 (01:25:40):
So I have a question, and I think I know
the answer. You have not watched any Bridgerton, right, I
have not. I I would be curious to see how
you felt about that, because they're for me, it wasn't
the orchestration because they do a bunch of chamber music
modern songs in a chamber music style. It's somewhere in
between modern chamber music, but there's like it's strings in orchestra.

Speaker 2 (01:26:04):
You know, So it's it's the postmodern juke box approach.

Speaker 1 (01:26:07):
Yeah, kind of for me, Like and I thought past it.
So I've caught up on Bridgerton and I got past
my hang ups there. But I had I had that
feel about the acting similar to this, This to Night's
Tale in Romeo and Juliet where the acting was just
also modern. In this, with these antiquated stories and stylings,

(01:26:32):
it didn't feel like the actors were in the world
that they were living in.

Speaker 2 (01:26:38):
Gotcha. Well yeah, And so the Juliette and Romeo trailer.
The other thing we should mention is that they're not
speaking Shakespeare's lines like they might be following the general
storyline of Romeo and Juliet. And I say might be,
because this trailer does not make it clear. But but
they are. The language they're speaking is it's they're not
quoting Shakespeare at best. This is a interpretation of an

(01:27:02):
interpretation of Shakespeare. The lines they give are are very
modern in their sound and in their delivery. It's not
It's not just that they're delivering them in a modern way.
The lines have been rewritten to be modern language. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:27:16):
And the other the other interesting thing, and again not
necessarily bad, is a give Lady capul It a lot
more agency in this one as well, being played by
Rebel Wilson. And it was very hard for me to
remember that this was a Romeo and Juliette story and
not a Cinderella story at first.

Speaker 2 (01:27:31):
Yeah. Well, and you know, I don't have as many
objections if you do a full update to the story
like West Side Story. I actually kind of enjoy West
Side Story. I don't think it's a perfect I don't
like the music. Oh I like the music, but I'm
older than you. But yeah, I like Tonight Tonight. I

(01:27:54):
like Officer krub Key, you know. I like when You're
a jet, You're a jet all the way.

Speaker 1 (01:27:58):
I like all that, Like Maria.

Speaker 2 (01:28:00):
I don't like America. Oh I love America. That's a
great song. But I respect the fact that you don't
care for it. That's fine. But like, I can deal
with Westside Story a lot more because the whole it's
the it's the basic story of Romeo and Juliet transported
to a different time. A different place and with different

(01:28:22):
characters in their their relationships are are not. It's not
two families at war. It's more of a race issue.
But I can appreciate all of that. This, however, I
I just had a visceral negative reaction to.

Speaker 1 (01:28:37):
Yeah, yeah, I think I feel like they're missing the mark.
I hope I'm wrong, but I feel like they're missing
the mark. Someone you hope doesn't miss the mark, because Lord,
we're going along. Someone you hope doesn't miss the mark.
Are the Eleven Rebels in the Eleven Rebels Samurai movie? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:28:55):
So this is a Japanese language samurai movie. We saw
a trailer that had, you know, captions had subtitles for
the thing, which I think is great because it meant
that you got to hear the original actors and their
delivery of their lines. That was fantastic. Yes, basic plot
is you've got a small group of rebels who are

(01:29:18):
resisting the Emperor of Japan's military moves into a region,
and I just the reason why I put it in
here is that it looks like a little bit or
a little bit of maybe seven Samurai, but no, it's

(01:29:39):
it made me think like, oh, this is this is
hearkening back to an era of Japanese cinema where the
samurai movie was like the thing. And it's interesting to
see a modern take on that because it's very clearly
an homage and inspired by those earlier samurai movies while

(01:30:00):
also being a modern representation of it.

Speaker 1 (01:30:03):
I mean they even say that that they're they're bringing
back the joy of that that originally Like in the trailer,
I think they say that.

Speaker 2 (01:30:11):
We're bringing back the joy of samurai movies.

Speaker 1 (01:30:14):
Samurai movies, and I do want to just address right
here because Darthan and I talked about this before the episode.
I realized we put Tornado last week in the doesn't
fit in this category, and we put this one this
week in that does fit in this category, and it's
it was an oversight on my part that I put
it in that does not fit, because it totally fits,

(01:30:35):
and it was it was no slight to a samurai
movie where the lead character is a female, or a
samurai movie in general, so.

Speaker 2 (01:30:43):
I I I take responsibility for that as well. It
takes two to tango, and we're tangoing on this on
the show whether you could see it or not, folks,
But uh yeah, no, I feel I feel the same
way I feel.

Speaker 1 (01:30:53):
Filos are so sore.

Speaker 2 (01:30:55):
Yeah, sorry, I'm really clumsy. But Tornado I think could have, yeah,
should have fit right in the thick of things, because again,
it's another sort of a martial arts samurai kind of story.
I feel as fully within the geeksphere. I thought that
eleven Rebels it looks like it looks intense, like it

(01:31:17):
looks fun, but fun in that intense kind of way.
Like it's not like a you know, sit back and
eat popcorn and turn your brain off kind of action movie.
I don't think it goes that far. But if you
like those classic samurai movies, particularly the ones that have
you know, geysers of blood in it, then this is
probably going to appeal to you.

Speaker 1 (01:31:39):
Yeah for sure.

Speaker 2 (01:31:41):
Speaking of geysers of blood, yeah, we got both. We
got a couple of different teasers for twenty eight years Later,
which we've we've talked about twenty eight years Later before
on this podcast, so we won't spend too much time
on this. I actually took one of them out of
our lineup just because I was like, oh, well, we've
you know, we've got two different ones. I'll just take
this one out. It occurs to me later like maybe

(01:32:03):
I should have kept them both in because one of
them had more like discernible segments of the film and
the other one is much more of a atmospheric mood.

Speaker 1 (01:32:15):
Okay, present the one you took out was a little
teaser before the new trailer, and it was terrifying.

Speaker 2 (01:32:24):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:32:25):
It it's scared, and it shows you barely any flashes
of anything. It's mainly just red skulls going into like
a hazmat symbol.

Speaker 2 (01:32:34):
But that's the one I kept.

Speaker 1 (01:32:37):
Is that the one you kept?

Speaker 2 (01:32:38):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:32:39):
Okay, that one truly terrifying. Like I walked away being
like I need to sit in a bright room with
some hot coco.

Speaker 2 (01:32:47):
Yeah. Yeah, the red skulls are slowly rolling into place
and taking that biohazard symbol. And then also it reincorporates
some of Ridyard Kipling's poem Boots, which we talked about
in the first teaser. Had an incredible impact. That recitation
of the poem, which comes from like I think the

(01:33:08):
nineteen twenties something like that. I forget, maybe it might
be a little bit later than that, but it was
a English actor who did the recitation, and so it's
an old recording, and that particular actor's recitation is so
emotive and terrifying and frenzied it's a perfect fit for

(01:33:28):
the promotional material for this movie.

Speaker 1 (01:33:31):
The other trailer showed a lot more plot, which, honestly,
going into a movie like this, maybe you don't want.

Speaker 2 (01:33:38):
But I watched that one.

Speaker 1 (01:33:41):
I'm only mentioned this real quick when we can move on.
I watched that one much faster because the first one
was so terrifying to me. But when you put it
up to two time speed, because maybe you'll want to
do this, the scoring in that Boots recitation turns into
like a really cool, like techno beat kind of a song,
it makes it a little bit more time.

Speaker 2 (01:34:00):
I mean, we all know that the Boots is half
of a techno beat in Cats and Cats and Ands
and Okay, so moving on. We got a longer trailer
for a movie we've mentioned in a previous episode Ash.
This is a science fiction film. Aaron Paul is in it.

(01:34:21):
It features a woman who wakes up and she has amnesia.
She does not remember her past. She gets little flashes
of memory at moments that that hint at a truly
terrifying and violent recent past. She was part of a
crew on a planet, and the rest of her crew

(01:34:42):
appears to have been eliminated by something what is it?
Who's to say? And then she encounters very well, she's
the one who's alive, so that's a pretty good indication.
But she encounters Aaron Paul's character, who claims that she's
sent out a distress signal and he's responding to it.
She doesn't know if she can trust him or not.

(01:35:05):
Ariel pointed out the last time we talked about this,
I mentioned that it was essentially Doom the movie with
a little bit of like dead Cells added inn. Yeah,
it's that I felt like.

Speaker 1 (01:35:17):
This trailer honestly, So I have this problem where they're like,
here's a teaser, here's the full trailer, and it's like
the teaser with a few extra things. That's how this
felt to me.

Speaker 2 (01:35:28):
I didn't go back and watch the original.

Speaker 1 (01:35:30):
There is more in it. I will say it made
it look a lot scarier the teaser. I was like,
I could probably watch this this one in my I
probably can't watch this.

Speaker 2 (01:35:38):
So it does look like it's a pretty effective, like
science fiction horror film, Like I'm curious, this is not
one that's that's landed on a must watch list for me,
but it's one where if I'm in the right mood
and it's on a service that I subscribed to, I
could see myself seeing it. I don't anticipate making a

(01:36:01):
trip to the movie theater to watch it. That's not
a commentary again on the quality of the filmmaking. As
I can see it in the trailer, it looks like
it's well made. Part of it is that I don't
know who I could convince to come see this movie
with me.

Speaker 1 (01:36:15):
Yeah, I probably would have to watch it in at home,
unlike I do like and it's not every horror movie.
I plan on going to see Sinners in the theater
because it is ninety seven percent fresh, both critically and fan.

Speaker 2 (01:36:29):
Yeah, that's incredible.

Speaker 1 (01:36:30):
Yeah, some people, it's.

Speaker 2 (01:36:31):
Almost unheard of.

Speaker 1 (01:36:33):
Some people have said that, Like, there are a few
negative reviews that are like, it's a good monster movie
that fails, like fails to have anything poignant, but that's
far and few between.

Speaker 2 (01:36:45):
Like our mutual friend absolutely loved it. I'm guessing Crispy, Yeah,
like rave review about it. Chris Crispy lives in a
movie theater, y'all. He does they do.

Speaker 1 (01:36:56):
He does anyhow. I but yeah, this this one I
will have to watch ash, I will have to watch
at home.

Speaker 2 (01:37:04):
We got a new trailer for season two of poker Face. Well,
you already got an earlier trailer, so this is kind
of more of the same. Gives us a few more
moments with Charlie where you get to see Natasha Leon's
charm on full display, and a little bit more of
a glimpse at some of the notable cameos and guest

(01:37:25):
appearances that are going to be in season two. Yeah,
it looks looks like it's going to be another fun season. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:37:33):
The cheesser made it feel like the big thing they
had going for it was the celebrity and there's still
a lot of push on that. I didn't watch it
first season because I don't have peacock.

Speaker 2 (01:37:42):
I would love to.

Speaker 1 (01:37:44):
Turns out, I really like Natasha Leon's series. She's just
got such a great presence, She's such a good actor.
But this new trailer really showed the charm. I was like,
I didn't realize her character was this charming. I want
to I have to figure out what streaming network I'm
going to drop so I can pick up Peacock to

(01:38:05):
watch it.

Speaker 2 (01:38:06):
Yeah, I think you would enjoy the first season of
Poker Face. My big question for season two is what
I'm still uncertain about. So in season one, there is
kind of an overarching narrative for season one that doesn't
it's not heavy. It's not a heavy presence. It sometimes

(01:38:28):
plays a part in an episode, but it's not It
doesn't feel like it's the force pushing the series forward.
But there is a kind of conclusion at the end
of season one, not a firm end end conclusion, like
there's stuff open for continuation. But it makes me wonder

(01:38:50):
how much is that going to be an element in
season two, because just based on the trailers, I didn't
get a feel for any of that, which I can
to understand if you're trying to just attract brand new
viewers to the series, but if you're trying to tell
people who are fans of the first season, hey, you
want to come back and watch season two. It's just
kind of surprising to me that there weren't any moments

(01:39:13):
that appeared to be an overt reference to a continuation
of that narrative.

Speaker 1 (01:39:18):
Yeah, I can I can see that. As much as
you're talking securitously around it so that you.

Speaker 2 (01:39:23):
Don't ruin it. Well, yeah, because I want you to
be able to enjoy the show the first time you
watch it without having any idea of where it's going.

Speaker 1 (01:39:33):
Yeah, something we know where it's going. Well kind of
kind of is sam Man season two. So I had
a bunch of friends the trailer just dropped, the trailer announcement.

Speaker 2 (01:39:47):
That it's it's in.

Speaker 1 (01:39:48):
The big takeaway is that it's going to be released
in two volumes that are like two weeks apart. So
my guess is this is really.

Speaker 2 (01:39:55):
Backup.

Speaker 1 (01:39:56):
This show has been canceled because of all of the
Neil game and stuf going on. Reasonable, I had a
bunch of friends going, Oh, I thought it was already canceled.
It was canceled for after season two, which I think
was already in production when all this stuff started happening.
So they're doing it, and I think, because this is
my own like conspiracy theory, Netflix has nothing to lose
at this point on this show because we know this

(01:40:19):
season is gonna be the last season. So I think
this whole like we're dropping half the episodes and then
the other half two weeks later. Is trying to figure
out a balance between the dropping everything at once so
that people can binge it in a day, and dropping
things weekly so that they keep your service longer. Because
I was like, why why have two volumes and release

(01:40:40):
them back to back?

Speaker 2 (01:40:41):
And I think that's why it's hard to say. I
will say that, you know, the feeling I got after
watching this trailer was Netflix saying screw it, we already
paid for this, so we're releasing it. Like that's how
That's the feeling I got. But I will also say that,
like the at the beginning, you have the various members

(01:41:03):
of the Endless, the Dreams siblings, like these are all
like immortal beings that represent some sort of fundamental aspect
of the universe, you know, Dream, Destiny, Death, Delirious.

Speaker 1 (01:41:16):
Despair, Delarium is the new one.

Speaker 2 (01:41:18):
Right, Delirium is the one that hasn't been introduced yet,
I think, okay, and then Death as well. And seeing
them all around sitting on the table, I was like, well,
that's kind of cool. I read a lot of the
early Sandman comics because my roommate in college had the collections,

(01:41:40):
but it has literally been that long since I've read them,
and I have few memories about the particulars, Like the
one thing I remembered was the diner issue. Yeah, I
knew before I watched that episode. I was like, this
is going to be hard to watch because I remember
this comic book because it.

Speaker 1 (01:41:59):
Was so I.

Speaker 2 (01:42:02):
I hated it so much. But yeah, I'm somewhat curious
about it, like I feel conflicted for the same reason
I feel conflicted about any of the Harry Potter stuff.
It's just that I don't feel good about supporting the
art of someone who I feel is has made some
really horrible choices that have impacted people in a negative way, and.

Speaker 1 (01:42:24):
More specifically, someone who makes those choices and then doesn't
own up to them and change.

Speaker 2 (01:42:30):
Yeah, yeah, deflecting and then like gradually maybe halfheartedly owning
up to stuff, but still kind of deflecting, like it's
not good. Yeah. So I don't know if i'll watch
this or not. I don't know if i'll I never
finished the first season of sand Man, so I don't

(01:42:50):
know that I'll even go back and watch the rest
of the episodes that I haven't seen yet. But we
did get it.

Speaker 1 (01:42:56):
Yeah, Yeah, we also got this song that I talked about,
the villain's song.

Speaker 2 (01:43:02):
Yeah, it's this is This is going to be part
of a stage show that will be part of the
new Villains.

Speaker 1 (01:43:08):
Land age show I almost auditioned for, but then realized
I wasn't enough money for me to relocate to.

Speaker 2 (01:43:14):
Relocate to Orlando, Florida or cassim Yeah. So Magic Kingdom
is opening up a Villain's land in the not two
distant futures. It's part of the Beyond Thunder Mountain project.
We've heard about it for ages. And one of the
aspects of that land is going to be a new
stage show. And that stage show is going to feature

(01:43:36):
three villains, Cruela Deville, Captain Hook, and Maleficent, and they're
kind of competing with each other. It's sort of a
SOB story competition where they're arguing over which of them
has had the most unfair treatment and then Uh, it's
similar to a show that I've seen on the Disney

(01:43:58):
Cruise Line. There are couple of different villains centric shows
that they have done on the Disney Cruise Line that
kind of make me think that that was maybe inspiration
slash sort of a seed for this new show. Nothing
that was one the same thing, but for example, there's
there's one villain show that's centered around Hades from Hercules,

(01:44:22):
who has to raise his villain meter, which is like
a thermometer in a fundraiser, has to raise his villain
meter to a certain point or else he's going to
get kicked out of the Villain's Club that has all
the other Disney villains in it, So similar kind of
to that right where I was just like, Oh, I
kind of get the vibe with this because I've seen

(01:44:43):
shows that are in a in the same neighborhood, and
I think it's a good addition. I've already seen some
Disney adults be total, in my opinion, total idiots, arguing, oh,
I want the Villain's Land to be scary and edgy,

(01:45:04):
And I'm like, have you seen Disney movies? Like I
get that you love the Disney villains, but they are
inherently silly in almost every case, Like there's Mollficent. Arguably
no Mollificent is not silly, but like right, Captain Hook
is silly, Kruella de Ville is at least on a

(01:45:25):
level absurd, Like most Disney villains have silliness aspects to them,
So to make them all like if you want more
edgy villain material. Watch Once upon a Time Again or
once whatever that show was, Go and watch that as
many times as you want, you know. But yeah, Disney

(01:45:49):
Magic Kingdom is a place where families go to have
family time and family vacation adventures. Make it a thing
that the family can enjoy.

Speaker 1 (01:45:58):
That's why they took out that Alien Encounter ride, which.

Speaker 2 (01:46:01):
Was my favorite ride, which you you know, we have
very strong differing opinions about that ride.

Speaker 1 (01:46:08):
Yeah, I loved it, and I loved it when it
was Stitch too. But it was scary, and I would
do it because it was a Disney so I could
endure this scary. But yes, it doesn't fit the vibe
of future Land.

Speaker 2 (01:46:19):
Tomorrow Land.

Speaker 1 (01:46:21):
Sorry, yeah, I appreciate that it gives the feel of like,
these villains you're gonna be like, oh, it's I'm so misunderstood,
just because I boiled a hundred puppies, which is horrible.
But yes, I hope they don't make them like, don't
make villains sympathetic.

Speaker 2 (01:46:37):
I don't think they will. I think it's going to like,
I think it's going to be a comedic approach that
is just going to be like ultimately they're all going
to kind of get their come uppance in some way
or another. That's a guess, just based upon the other
entertainment I've seen and based around this kind of idea.

Speaker 1 (01:46:55):
The only thing that's really weird to me, I'm glad
Hook is in. I think Hook is a very fun villain.
I it feels a little unfair to have two face
characters in a musical show and then one poor sap
in a big old costume head.

Speaker 2 (01:47:18):
Yeah. It makes me wonder if they will make Hook
a face character when ultimately this is a stage show,
like the promotional material was not promotional material was the
I mean you only see him in silhouette, really, I
mean maybe you see him lit up at one point.
I don't remember that, but you.

Speaker 1 (01:47:35):
You only see him in silhouette. But it definitely looks
like he's wearing a big old head. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:47:38):
Yeah, no, he is wearing the Hook costume that has
the big foam hook head. But maybe the actual stage
show will have a face character version of Hook, because yeah,
I agree with you. To have like that other version
of Hook come out with the unarticulated mouth staying you know,

(01:48:01):
frozen while the lines play out overhead would be weird.

Speaker 1 (01:48:05):
Yeah, yeah, I don't remember from the casting. I don't
remember anyhow. That's that. And lastly, we have a game
trailer because I try to put game stuff in here.
There just hasn't been a whole lot of game stuff,
but we used to talk about it all the time,
games and comics and stuff. For Kronos the New Dawn,

(01:48:27):
which is kind of a horror sci fi kind of
video game. It looks fun.

Speaker 2 (01:48:31):
Yeah, it's from a Polish game developer studio. I had
to look it up because at first I was like,
is this from the same studio that did Control, because
there's some like elements of control in there.

Speaker 1 (01:48:42):
It is not oh darn, because Control is quite the game. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:48:46):
No, this is one of those games where as I
was watching the trailer, I was thinking, Oh, this looks
like Control, and then the second later, Oh, this looks
like Dead Cells, and then the second later, oh this
looks like Doom or a quake, or like or As
an Evil or Silent Hill.

Speaker 1 (01:49:02):
Like.

Speaker 2 (01:49:02):
There's a ton of stuff. You can see all of
the influences that went into making this game. I don't
think that there's anything original in this game. It feels
more like it feels more like a big old cauldron
of stuff that was mixed together from other games that
you are familiar with.

Speaker 1 (01:49:19):
Yeah, but you know, sci fi horror video games can
be fun.

Speaker 2 (01:49:23):
So yeah, I mean, it's go ahead and watch the
trailer see if this is something that would appeal to you.
I just thought it was funny that I was like,
it's it almost feels like a Bingo card, like you
could cross off when you see something that reminds you
of this game, and you would have get bingo within
the first like fifteen seconds of the trailer.

Speaker 1 (01:49:44):
So I'm going to be fully transparent here. I have
not actually played Control.

Speaker 2 (01:49:49):
I was.

Speaker 1 (01:49:50):
We forced one of my friends to play it when
they were in town, and I sat through as much
of that as I could before I got motion sick.
But it was really interesting. There's someone who talks in initiat,
which I love because I'm learning.

Speaker 2 (01:50:01):
Finish well, and it's a character. It's a character who
also shows up an Alan Wake two. Oh interesting, the
same character.

Speaker 1 (01:50:10):
Oh fun. But also like, I'm currently playing a tabletop game,
the Triangle Agency, which is somewhere between Control and The
Laundry Files, so that appeals as well. Maybe that's why
this game trailer just kind of struck me.

Speaker 2 (01:50:25):
But yeah, there were there were moments where like there
was stuff just floating in mid air, and that's where
I was like, oh, is this like related to control
because it was immediately made me think of that Control Is.
I own that game and I played through most of it.
That's another game I never got a chance to finish.
But Control Is is fun because of not just the

(01:50:49):
gameplay elements, which are genuinely a lot of fun to
experiment with. Like at some point you can fly in
that game, at least for a little while, Like you
have a lim to how much power you're able to exert,
and then you have to rest in order to build
it back up. But you can fly for short blasts,
and you can use telekinesis and all this other kind

(01:51:11):
of stuff, and it's it's a blast. And then like
there's all this lore that gets dumped on you. Some
of it gets dumped on you pretty early on, and
you're like, wait, what, it's a.

Speaker 1 (01:51:21):
Weird puzzle box type mystery, like something's not quite right
in the universe all like.

Speaker 2 (01:51:28):
Yeah, yeah, Like like it's like you got dumped into
a Twilight Zone episode that is the nexus of all
Twilight Zone episodes, so it's it's wild but very a
very enjoyable presentation. So that's kind of what it gave
me some control vibes. I don't think this doesn't look
to me like it's going to be on that same wavelength.

(01:51:52):
But you know, it's definitely not a bad bad game
to you know, if something reminds you of control, that's
not a bad thing.

Speaker 1 (01:52:00):
Yeah. The kind of the log line that came through
this trailer was don't merge with them them being the
alien bad guy creatures.

Speaker 2 (01:52:08):
Or don't let them merge, don't let them merge.

Speaker 1 (01:52:11):
I thought it was don't merge with them, let them merge,
but maybe it's both.

Speaker 2 (01:52:15):
I think it's don't let them merge because I think
the idea is that some of these these mutant slash
alien slash zombie like critters, when they get close to
each other, merge into a bigger, more powerful monster that
you have to fight. So if you aren't quick and
don't prevent the merging, you have just made your job

(01:52:36):
that much harder.

Speaker 1 (01:52:37):
It's it's like the opposite of fighting slimes in D
and D or Minecraft.

Speaker 2 (01:52:42):
Where you hit one and they split into two and
you're like, oh no, yep, yep, it's the opposite of that.

Speaker 1 (01:52:49):
So that's it. Let's try to get this episode in
under two hours, barely, Jonathan. If people want to attempt
to reach you.

Speaker 2 (01:53:00):
How do they do that? All right? So, because of
my plans for the near future, what you're going to
need to do is you're going to need to travel
to Texarkana. And when you get to Texarkana, you're gonna
turn left. I know what you're thinking, Jonathan. How do
you know what direction I'm coming into Texarkana from. Don't

(01:53:21):
you worry your pretty littlehead about that. It's none of
your concern. Once you get to text Arkana, you're gonna
turn left, and you're going to travel for precisely sixty
four minutes. When you travel for sixty four minutes, and
I know what you're saying, Jonathan, Jonathan, how fast do
you mean travel?

Speaker 1 (01:53:40):
Like?

Speaker 2 (01:53:40):
Are you talking about on foot? Are you talking about
by bicycle? Are you talking about by vehicle? If by vehicle,
how fast can I drive? Don't you worry you're pretty
little ahead about that. It's none of your concern. You're
gotta turn left, you gotta travel for sixty four minutes precisely,
when you get to that spot. Sixty four minutes later,
you're going to stop. You're gonna dig a hole. In

(01:54:03):
that hole. You're going to plant a sunflower seed, which,
by the way, you're gonna have to bring with you.
I should have said that at the top. But don't
worry about that. Gonna plant that sunflower seed, You're gonna
water it. Oh, I should have told you also, you're
gonna need to bring some water with you, but you
know whatever, and you're gonna water that sunflower seed. And
right before your eyes, that sunflower seed is going to

(01:54:24):
spring up and bloom. Now, when I say right before
your eyes, I don't mean this happens instantly. I mean
you actually are gonna have to wait there for the
natural process for the sunflower to grow to a point
where it can actually bloom. So that's gonna be a while.
So you're gonna need to clear out your schedule for
quite some time. But when the sunflower blooms, you will

(01:54:46):
see the seeds start to form. Now when I say
you're gonna see the seeds start to form, I mean
that actually is another process. It's going to take quite
some time. It's not like again instantaneous, but you're going
to reach into the exact center the sunflower, the flower itself,
to pluck the seed that is at the very center
of the sunflower. You're gonna pop that open. You're going

(01:55:09):
to then eat that sunflower seed. It's gonna stick in
your throat, You're going to cough. You're gonna spin it out,
and then you're gonna notice that you spin it out
right at a point where there's a shadow, turn around.
You'll see me standing there and I'll say, yeah, what
do you want?

Speaker 1 (01:55:25):
And if you uh Timbolt likes that, if you find
yourself accidentally in red Lick instead of Texarcana, then you
can reach out to us on social media or if
you just don't want to travel, to do that on
Instagram and uh Facebook and threads and discord. We're large

(01:55:46):
ner Drunk Collider on Blue Sky. We are llenc dot
podcast Underscore podcast. I said I would look and I
didn't have a big old liar face. Or you can
email us. Our email is large nerdron Pod at gmail
dot com. You can get the invite to our discord
if you can't find it otherwise, on our website, which

(01:56:08):
is www dot large Nurdrohn colletter dot com. Thank you
for listening. We love peaking out with you. Tell your
friends we love to peek out with them too, And
until next time. I am Ariel, I'm not bad, I'm
just drawn that way Caston, and.

Speaker 2 (01:56:29):
I am Jonathan, I'm just sixty four minutes away. Strickland
the Large Nerdron Collider was created by Ariel Caston and produced, edited, published, deleted, undeleted,
published again. Curse That by Jonathan Strickland. Music by Kevin

(01:56:52):
McLeod of incomptech dot com three

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