LNC Gets Upfront About Things

Apologies for the late upload, but Jonathan's editing computer decided to throw a tantrum. Your beloved hosts talk about what went down at the streaming upfronts earlier this month, plus they talk about some upcoming films and series that caught their collective eye.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:10):
Hey, everybody, Welcome to the larger Nurdrun Collider podcast, the
podcast that's all about the geeky things happening in the
world around us and how very excited we are about them.
I'm Ariel cast In, back from vacation, and with me
as always is my ever wonderful friend and co host
Jonathan Strickland.

Speaker 2 (00:28):
One of us is heavily medicated, and it's not me.

Speaker 1 (00:34):
Yeah. Yeah, I've been dealing with a sore back for
a couple of months and I'm close to getting to
the bottom of it.

Speaker 2 (00:40):
Yes, yes, here's hoping that we discover and eradicate the
thing that makes my very dear friend uncomfortable and in pain,
because I want her to have a pain free life.

Speaker 1 (00:55):
Me too. And when I was talking to the Ortho
and they're like, what do you like doing, I'm like, well,
I like dance and musical theater, and I like doing
stunts and stage combat. I'd really love to get back
to that. They're like, Okay, we'll keep that in mind.

Speaker 2 (01:08):
Yeah, yeah, I think I would love to do one
more stage combat show before I just hang it up
because I had so much fun doing that. That was
my favorite thing in the toward the end of my
Renfest career was doing stage combat and I miss it,
and again I would love to do one more before

(01:30):
it's all done, but I suspect that I might be
that might just be a thing that's in my past
at this point.

Speaker 1 (01:37):
Yeah, yeah, I think I could do it. You know,
I probably wouldn't do any snapmarees, which is where somebody
kneels down and grabs your head and you flip over
and you land on like your feet and then you
fall on your butt, but I could probably well, depending
on everything, I could probably do a front roll again
at some point in time. That's my goal. Yeah, I'm

(01:58):
out of shape now because when you're laying with hell
stuff everybody knows it takes. It makes it harder to recover.
But I'm working on it.

Speaker 2 (02:08):
So especially especially when it's your back, Like when it's
your back like that so limits the things you can
do to be active that you know it's it's it
becomes like a catch twenty two Like until you get
it figured out, it's really hard to find a way
to be active that's not going to complicate things. So yeah,

(02:29):
your's hoping.

Speaker 1 (02:30):
And I've been working with physical therapists for a while
and a personal trainer. My personal trainer is amazing and awesome,
and she's able to work my PT in and also
give me exercises that both accomplish the goals I'm trying
to meet and also help with my recovery. But you know,
through going through this PT when they're like, well, your
back hurts because you're not using your abdominal muscles to support.

(02:51):
So you're like, you're that posture that can that can
hurt it back, that's a legit thing. But I'm like,
I've been working on strengthening my core muscles for a
while until it throws out my back, and then I'm
down for a week, and then I work on it
again until it throws out my back. So and like
some of the PT I was doing was aggravating my
back pain instead of helping it despite the adjustments that

(03:16):
the PT was telling me to do, which is when
I decided to go see go get it checked up further.
So you know, always if you are able to I
know Jonathan said this the other day, if you've got
something that you feel is wrong, if you're able to
get it checked out or get a second opinion or

(03:37):
follow up on it, please do, because it can save
you a lot of trouble down the line. You know,
if you think you've got a pulled muscle and it
turns out to be something more serious, the sooner you
catch it, the better you are, the more likely you
are to be able to get it fixed.

Speaker 2 (03:52):
So yeah, yeah, Like, if I hadn't listened to my
own body back when I was having that incredible migrain,
I might not be here right now, because that's how
bad things got back in December January of you know,
December last year January this year.

Speaker 1 (04:12):
So yeah, and my current medical team is listening to
me and that's great, But in the past, this is
especially predominant for you know, if you're a woman listening
to this show.

Speaker 2 (04:21):
It's gonna sound familiar. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (04:23):
Yeah, I have like gone in for a sprained ankle
or soar back in the past and been basically kind
of like shamed, like why are you coming in for this?
Why aren't you just stretching? And you know, now I
might I don't know what's going on, so I'm not
going to go into my health stuff, but you know,
it's like I'm worried about being seen as a hypochondriac.

(04:44):
But better to be a hypochondriac and catch something if
there is something wrong and be told there's nothing wrong.
If there's nothing wrong, then to not catch something that's
wrong and living being in a discomfort or whatever.

Speaker 2 (04:56):
So and we also we both have had times in
the past where we felt the pressure to push through
even when things weren't well. I mean, there's an infamous
story of Ariel and the Renaissance Festival of getting our
hands split open and having to get staples put in

(05:16):
and then coming back to finish the day.

Speaker 1 (05:19):
Yep, I finished my last I missed one fight. It
was stitches and I had a lot of light it
cane put into my finger and I still felt it.
And then I came back and I finished my last
three fights of the day, but because my middle finger
had been split open, I was flicking everybody off the entire.

Speaker 2 (05:34):
Time, which was only fitting.

Speaker 1 (05:37):
Yeah, I mean I chose to come back. I could
have taken the day. I wanted to come back and
finish it. But there's a whole conversation to be had
around I think we had it when the pandemic started
around unhealthy practices in theater and the kind of internal
pressure you have the show must goes on.

Speaker 2 (05:55):
Yeah, yeah, exactly. Yeah, that's deeply ingrained. And it's not
like you point to any one source as being the
fault of it. It is a cultural thing that has
developed over centuries. So it's you know, there's good things
and bad things about it. Like I've seen people step
up when otherwise, you know, something would just fall apart

(06:18):
and do an incredible job. And I've seen things where
someone who really needed to look after themselves didn't because
of the fear of what that would do to the
impact of a show. And yeah, the good and bad.
But you gotta be really like, when I take a
step back and I'm not active in that community anymore,

(06:39):
I take a much more critical eye to it than
I used to.

Speaker 1 (06:42):
Yeah, well, like I'm watching so you think you can
dance right now? It's a very different format. I still
don't know how I feel about it. But one of
the dancers in the Finalists, one of the Finalists has
an injured hip and has been dealing with an injured
hip for the last two episodes. That hurts a lot,
and she just keeps pushing through because if she doesn't,
she's going to lose the role. So part of it
is not even like from your director of like, oh
you're sick or you're hurt, you have to come in

(07:03):
because we can't do the show without you. It's your
own personal pressure of I don't want to lose this opportunity.
I don't want to let people down, especially if you're
a responsible person. You're like, I can't put this onus
on everybody else, right.

Speaker 2 (07:15):
Right, And I don't want to. I don't want to
end up screwing up an opportunity, because you never know
when an opportunity is going to be the one or
the last one.

Speaker 1 (07:25):
Yeah, another Renfest time, I had actually thrown my back
out on the way to Renfest and I was in
a lot of pain. It was back when my mom
and I were working together. And we got there and
I'm like, I can't go on, and I hung out
in the in the cast trailer for half the day,
and then the second half of the day I was
starting to get some mobility back, and you're supposed to

(07:46):
move around with the back, and so the director's like,
if you're starting to feel better, go out, walk around
the ferry. You don't have to sit in the trailer
all day. So I did, and I got in trouble
for walking around fair and doing stuff because the fight
director at the time thought that I was faking my
back injury and being irresponsible and putting somebody else in
a position, even though we all had understudies for a reason.

(08:07):
And I'm like, do you not please let me explain
my mindset to you, because I would not ever give
up an opportunity to perform never ever.

Speaker 2 (08:18):
Yeah, no, especially especially combat. Let me tell you, if
you have the prospect of Ariel getting to kick butt
and or have her butt kicked, she's gonna take it.

Speaker 1 (08:29):
But I might have been put on proboshit probation the
rest of the year and made understudy because of that,
and it's really frustrating.

Speaker 2 (08:36):
Yeah, yeah, no, I'm knowing you, Ariel. I know for
a fact, like you are not one to shirk combat.
Like that's like that's like a draw for you.

Speaker 1 (08:47):
Yeah. Yeah, it speaks to my little Bard. It sings
to my little bard burying heart. This was not the
conversation we were gonna have. But Jonathan, totally, that's I do.

Speaker 2 (09:00):
I do. I throw, I throw monkey wrenches into gear works.
But yeah, we're going to We're going to talk about
a whole bunch of stuff today. It turns out there
were a lot of things to talk about because of upfronts.
But first I thought we would start off as we
typically do, by talking about some of the stuff what
we have seen recently.

Speaker 1 (09:22):
Yes, So, despite being in Chicago, I did watch some stuff.
I rewatched half of Fifth Element that holds up pretty well.

Speaker 2 (09:30):
I'm gonna say, yeah, so you watched you watched two
fifths Elements?

Speaker 1 (09:35):
Yes, yeah, two point five oh.

Speaker 2 (09:38):
Yes.

Speaker 1 (09:40):
On the way to Chicago, I watched the new Mean Girls,
which I will say, if you haven't watched the original
and you aren't super familiar with the musical, it's an
enjoyable enough movie. Like, the performances are fine, the character
casting is good, the characters are good. I haven't seen

(10:01):
all of the musical. I've mainly listened to some of
the music. I think they cut one of the songs.
Is there a song Jonathan in Mean Girls the musical
that's about like, don't text this guy, don't be thirsty?

Speaker 2 (10:10):
Yeah, it's called just Stop and it is a big
number in the musical, and it also has possibly the
most uncomfortable line in the entire show.

Speaker 1 (10:21):
Yes, yes, that was not in the movie as far
as I can remember, but I had a a baby
friend who was distracting me a little bit on the plane.
But yeah, there is something to be said about Like again,
performances were fine, the singing was good. There was just

(10:42):
something missing in the intensity of the music. And I
don't know if that's just because of the adjustment of
it going onto film or the way you have to
perform on film versus a stage, but I do feel
it was lacking a little something. But I don't think
that was the fault of the actors or probably the director.
I think it's the issue oftentimes of bringing musicals to film.

Speaker 2 (11:06):
Yeah, I've only seen clips and I've heard some of
the songs from the film, and like you, I feel
like the arrangements they made for the movie are a
little lackluster. Like I love the song Stupid with Love.
I love that song. I think it's a lot of
fun in the original stage version and when I heard,

(11:27):
because I still haven't seen it, I've only heard, but
I heard the movie version of that song and I
was really disappointed in that particular. Not no shade upon
the actress, but in the arrangement.

Speaker 1 (11:41):
I might have fast forwarded a little bit through that
one and a couple other of the slow ones, and
then on the way home I watched two thirds three
quarters of the movie Freelance, which is John Cena and
Alison Brie. It's about a guy who went to school
to be a lawyer, realized that wasn't for him, went

(12:01):
into the Special Forces, got injured, got kicked out of
the Special Forces, went back to being a lawyer, and
was feeling discontent with life. And then his old friend
played by Christian Slater, calls him up and says, hey,
I almost send you to this country to be a
bodyguard for this reporter Alison Frie, and it happens to
be the country of the guy who he was going
after in the Special Forces. Surprisingly delightful movie, very like

(12:27):
like along the lines of Romancing the Stone and Lost
City of d I expected it to be more like Taken,
but it wasn't. It's it's not too gory. There is
a lot of violence and there is some gore, but
it's not too gory. It's not too gross as far

(12:48):
as like language and content and potty jokes. It's not
too sexy like. I didn't finish the movie, but I
actually I want you finish it. I actually quite liked.

Speaker 2 (12:59):
It a lot. Okay, yeah, I love Alison Brie and
I would like John Cena, but I can't see him.

Speaker 1 (13:11):
I watched the two new episodes of Doctor Who. It
almost made talking babies bearable to me, but I don't
like that effect. They did the best they could with it. Also,
there was some childish humor in it in that episode
of Space Babies, and then the second episode had to
do with music. Jinx Monsoon played the villain. I have

(13:37):
a bunch of friends who absolutely loved it. I have
a couple of friends who thinks I think it missed
the mark, and I'm kind of in the middle. I
like Jin's Monsoon. I think she's a great performer. I
felt like there were times where her over the top
crazy just read as a little bit forced or fake
to me, But she also had these incredibly genuine moments

(13:58):
that were just like really good and really really like foreboding.
So I liked it and I want all of her
outfits in that episode and then and then I also
watched I caught up on a bunch of dropout television,
including Smarty Pants, which this week there was an entire

(14:19):
presentation on how similar WWE and DRAG are And I
don't know if you watched that, Jonathan.

Speaker 2 (14:25):
I haven't seen it yet, but I feel like I
feel like it will really resonate with me.

Speaker 1 (14:30):
I think so, I think so. So that's that's what
I have watched. What have you watched?

Speaker 2 (14:37):
Well? I started watching Dead Boy Detectives, which is weird
because it's a show where I like like all the
all the secondary and supporting characters, as well as the
the the psychic, the human psychic, and I don't care
for the two ghosts very much. I don't Their performances

(15:01):
are not working for me, which is unfortunate because those
are the Dead Boy Detectives, those are the two main characters.
But like I'm enjoying the show, I just don't like
their I don't like their characters. I guess I should
say like the performances I'm not. I'm not crazy about,
but I would argue a lot of that is informed

(15:21):
by the characters they're playing. When one of your characters
is a smug, snobby turn of the night, turn of
the twentieth century English schoolboy, it's hard to win me
over characters. Characters who were born of privilege, even if
they were subsequently sacrificed to the debil, are hard for

(15:45):
me to hard for me to sympathize with. So spoiler alert,
I guess, but yeah, okay, it's not really. I mean,
that's how he dies, like it's that's revealed in the
very beginning of the show, that that's how that was
how he met his end. I think it's the actual
shows are interesting. It's always hard for me to get

(16:07):
a handle on Neil gaiman inspired or created pieces because
he gets he gets whimsical and dark in ways that
are sometimes hard for me to connect with, and that
certainly is the case with Dead Boy Detectives. I absolutely adore.

(16:28):
There's a witch character who is the worst. She is
horrible and I love her so much. And then there's
and oh, by the way, it's also about extremely thirsty.
It's a very very thirsty show, really, particularly for the

(16:49):
LGBTQ crowd. It is. There are a lot of a
lot of extremely fit young men lusting after each other
in that show, and I mean they handle it well.
It's not there's no objection here, it's just an observation.
So I've been watching that, but that actually inspired me

(17:10):
to go and finally watch some episodes of The Sandman,
which I haven't ever seen. I'd read comics like I
read most of the early issues of The Sandman through
up up to the Dolls House saga. I read through that,
so very early episodes issues rather, so I've gotten through

(17:32):
most of that, although I'm still in the story of
the Corinthian and how desire and despair are taking aim dream.
And again, it's a show where I like all the
supporting characters, but I'm not crazy about the protagonist.

Speaker 1 (17:54):
Death is the best part of The Sandman, and she
shows up in two episodes which happened to be my
two different episodes of the show. I think it's because
she's a part of it.

Speaker 2 (18:04):
So yeah, yeah, I like her a lot. I've seen
her first episode. I mean that one. It's it's very
close to the comic book that was that was you know,
inspired that particular episode. It's very very close, up to
the point where I was surprised that they included the
part with the baby. No spoilers, but it's rough. It's

(18:25):
it's a very rough scene, but it comes from the
comic as well, so I knew what to expect. When
it happened, and it just told me that this is
a show Shay can't watch.

Speaker 1 (18:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (18:35):
So, like I said, I'm enjoying it, but it's and
and again, no shade on the actor playing Dream. Dream
is written in such a way as to be detached,
so that he's doing his job. He's playing the character
the way the character is meant to be played. It's
just that a character who in comics was distant becomes

(18:59):
even more or so when he's being performed in another medium,
and that that is hard for me to connect to.

Speaker 1 (19:05):
I agree. Have you skipped the Diner episode yet?

Speaker 2 (19:09):
No? I watched it. It was hard because that particular
I mean, that issue gave me nightmares when I read it.
But I watched it. I knew what was happening when
it started. I was like, well, this is the episode,
let's see where And it was different. It was different
from the issue in several, like not important ways, but

(19:30):
little ways, like the general message was exactly the same,
but the details were different.

Speaker 1 (19:37):
Did not like that episode.

Speaker 2 (19:39):
It is a rough one, but David Thulis does a
great job as John d He is absolutely terrifying. Yeah,
so that's what I watched. I watched those things and
not much else, Like I've a lot of the same
kind of goofy stuff. I've been watching a lot of

(20:00):
videos about the al Veas Animal Sanctuary run by Maya
Heiga or Higa. She's a streamer and she has an
animal sanctuary out in Texas and they recently got a
couple of wolf dogs in their sanctuary. So I've been
watching that a lot because it's wholesome and it's like,

(20:20):
it's all about messaging about conservation. And she is young,
she's like in her mid twenties. And the fact that
she's accomplished this and leveraged a successful career in streaming
to create an actual animal sanctuary that operates as a
full nonprofit and meets like state and federal regulations to

(20:44):
prove that, you know, operations are safe and following the
best practices. That's just so impressive to me that someone
can do that, and she's so young and like she
just you just get the feeling that she's got a
frickin rip on this. It's really inspiring.

Speaker 1 (21:02):
That's super awesome. Yeah, I like watching very uplifting, fun
content lately. That's no surprise to anybody.

Speaker 2 (21:09):
You definitely need to listeners. You definitely need to watch
one of her videos where she's giving a tour to
to one of her other streamer friends. She's had tons
of different people from the streaming world, most of whom
I don't know because they're all like twenty years younger
than I am. But it's so fun to watch these
streamers who are kind of geared toward audience engagement, having

(21:32):
to deal with things like holding an African bullfrog in
their hands and stuff like that. It's really entertaining.

Speaker 1 (21:39):
I would love to hold an African bullfrog in my hand.

Speaker 2 (21:42):
His name is Georgie and he's the second biggest species
of frog in the world.

Speaker 1 (21:47):
I love it. I love it. I absolutely love it.
So we didn't super talk about the order you wanted
to do things. Do you do you want to thirty
seconds or less? What do you want to do next?

Speaker 2 (22:05):
We can do our little in Memoriam very quickly because
so when we were off last week, we got word
about Bernard Hill, the actor, passing away. He was Theodin
in the Lord of the Rings movies. He's was also
in Titanic. He's been in lots and lots of stuff,
very very prolific character actor, so that was very sad

(22:31):
that we heard of his passing. We also heard of
the passing of legendary Hollywood producer Roger Korman, responsible for
getting more movies made than just about anybody on crazy
shoe string budgets. He's the guy who made the original
film version of Little Shop of Horrors, the non musical

(22:54):
version had Jack Nicholson in it as the masochistic tol
A patient. He also was the producer behind the best
so far adaptation of The Fantastic Four.

Speaker 1 (23:11):
Yeah, but then there's also like Shark to.

Speaker 2 (23:15):
Plus Oh no, he made some real crap. Yeah, or
he pused some real crap, but no.

Speaker 1 (23:20):
The versus Wail.

Speaker 2 (23:24):
The thing about Roger Corman was that he was just
very good at getting funding for movies and running movies
on a tight budget. He just that was his reputation
was that if you needed a movie made, and you
need it made on the cheap, Roger Corman was a
guy who could get it done. It didn't mean that

(23:45):
the finished film was going to be a classic or
be brilliant, but it would get made. And there's quite
a few movies that he was responsible for that are
like I think, either cult classics or legit classics. But yeah,
there's a mountain of stuff that's just kind of trash.

Speaker 1 (24:04):
Yeah yeah, but sad for both of their passings. It's
sad when anybody passes, but especially when people who are
so prolific to the geek is sphere.

Speaker 2 (24:15):
So yeah, yeah, Roger Corman was responsible for a lot
of stuff that influenced me as a kid, because, like
I was one of those kids who was watching real
low budget sci fi and action films on like the
local cable stations like TBS and stuff, and Roger Corman
was responsible for probably ninety five percent of them.

Speaker 1 (24:36):
Nice, nice, responsible or to blame No, I'm.

Speaker 2 (24:39):
Kidding either way. I mean tomato, tomato. So that's that's
it for the d memoriam so far. But I guess
now we can segue on over to thirty seconds or less.

Speaker 1 (24:52):
And here's the fun thing. I'm now realizing if we
didn't tell you, guys, you'd never know they were different segments.

Speaker 2 (24:59):
Yeah, but you know, we have to say it out
loud so that I know to get the music cue
when I'm editing them. Yeah, so I will get started
right now. It's been more than a decade since Vin
Diesel donned the silver contact lenses of his Riddic character
that was first introduced in the two thousand sci fi

(25:20):
action film Pitch Black. But now a new Riddick film
is scheduled to begin shooting in late August. Diesel bought
the rights to the franchise and returned for doing more
of his Vroom Vroom action movies many years ago. The
new film will be called Fury, which is the name
of Riddick's home planet, has nothing to do with Furiosa

(25:40):
or Fury Road, much to my my I wish, I mean,
I just wish.

Speaker 1 (25:45):
I thought. I thought the same, and then I also
read bleep yah a second time through. Nintendo is announcing
that they will be announcing a successor to the Switch.
The Switch has been around for about a decade yea.
And here's the thing, though, they're announcing that they'll announce

(26:07):
it in March of twenty twenty five, not it there
direct in June, so there's still quite a ways to
wait to find out what that next console thing will be.

Speaker 2 (26:21):
Yeah, we don't know if it'll be another Switch or
if it'll be something different. It's just it's sitch. The
announcement will come out before the end of the fiscal year, which,
as Ariel was saying, the end of Nintendo's fiscal year
ends like March thirty first, So.

Speaker 1 (26:37):
Yeah, it won't be the Nintendo Switch, It'll be the
Nintendo's same Yeah.

Speaker 2 (26:42):
Yeah, Okay. Well, I had thought that Peter Jackson was
done in Middle Earth after the Hobbit films, but such
is not the case. He is working on a script
for a film centering on Gollum, and Andy Serkis is
slated to star and direct it. Jackson's role beyond how
helping the story, is not entirely clear, but he's attached

(27:03):
to work on two films at the very least. Here's
hoping the Gollam movie is better than the Hobbit films
and much better than the recent Gollum computer game.

Speaker 1 (27:14):
Next is news. That's old. That is now news again.
In twenty twenty two, it was announced that Sidney Sweeney
would be involved in a remake of Barbarella, Jane Fonda's
classic sexy I don't know, cult classic sexy sci fi
from I think the seventies. Now it's back in the
news because they are talking to Edgar Wright to direct.

(27:38):
I do like Edgar Wright's work, and Jane Goldman and
Honey Ross will also be working on the script. Jane
Goldman has worked on stuff like kick Ass and Kingsman
and X Men First Class, all things that I like.
I don't They're going to have to make some significant
changes to the story to make it something I feel

(27:58):
is worthy of a reboot.

Speaker 2 (28:03):
That's putting it lightly. Yeah, as I told Ariel, there's
gonna be a lot of cleafage in that movie.

Speaker 1 (28:10):
I mean that shouldn't be the like I mean, it's Barberella.
Of course there is.

Speaker 2 (28:14):
Yeah, it's kind of like if you did a red
Sonia film, you have to like, it's all cheesecake. It's
from a cheesecake era.

Speaker 1 (28:21):
Look, I just didn't think Barbarella was the strongest of characters.
I do like Kingsman though, and I like kick Ass,
and so maybe they will revamp the character in a
way that is new and fresh while still also being
true to the original IP. I don't know.

Speaker 2 (28:36):
If nothing else, we know that the soundtrack will be killer,
because Edgar Wright just he thinks in terms of music.
So there's that at least, all right. Well, The Hollywood
Reporter says that Sigourney Weaver is in talks to join
the Star Wars universe, and this would be for the
upcoming film currently titled The Mandalorian and Grogu, which is

(28:56):
an awful title. Jon Favreau will direct the film. That's
a positive. Pedro Pascal is pretty busy and the film
is supposed to start shooting this year. So my guess
is Internet Zaddi is mostly going to be doing his
work as voiceover.

Speaker 1 (29:12):
I would bet the same. Speaking of Internet Zaddy, Fantastic
four has some new casting announcements because Patrick Pascal is
mister Fantastic first, Ralph Inoson will be playing Galactis.

Speaker 2 (29:28):
The Eater destroyer, devower of Worlds.

Speaker 1 (29:32):
That's it. It's in between destroyer and eater devour. Yes,
the devourer of worlds. My friends have a cat named Galactus,
so yeah, it's awesome. It's a great cat. Also, they've
cast John Malkovich. I couldn't remember his name for a second.
I almost Saidavid Lynch, and they're very different people. We

(29:54):
don't know who John Malkovich is. They've also cast Natasha
Leone in a role that we don't know. My worries
that she's going to be female. The thing and I
know I said I didn't want to be female the Thing.
I wanted to be the thing, but female the Thing
would be a good second runner up. And I like Natashillian.
She's definitely better at dry humor than me. But if

(30:17):
that's the case, I will be just ever so slightly sad.

Speaker 2 (30:20):
It's possible she'll be playing like she could play Ben
Grimm's love interest, right, because there's that character in the
comics who's blind. Wheah.

Speaker 1 (30:29):
She could also play someone completely outside of her normal
character castings.

Speaker 2 (30:35):
Yeah, I mean her voice is gonna like the President,
that's true. I would not listen. I'll vote for her. Okay.
I watched a trailer for a film called The Demon
Disorder and I did not make Arie'll watch it. I
want that to be clear. A movie.

Speaker 1 (30:50):
Watch it.

Speaker 2 (30:51):
It's a movie that's coming to shut her and as
the name implies, it's tapping into that rich tapestry of
demonic possession films. It's an Australian movie and the trailer
has a lot of disturbing imagery in it. But the
editing of the trailer I don't like it. It's I
think the editing is terrible. I hope the movie is
much better, but it looks pretty gnarly, so fans of

(31:11):
those kinds of films should check it out when it
comes to Shutter this fall. I'll probably watch it because it,
like the body horror in that trailer is intense. But
like I said that, don't watch the trailer. It's just bad.
I think the movie is going to be way better.

Speaker 1 (31:29):
Gotcha. Lastly? Oh no, lastly for me and our thirty
seconds or last I caught it this time. Aha. The
new Supergirl Millie Alcock, you know from House of the Dragon,
has been It has been announced when her new Supergirl movie,
Supergirl World, Woman of Tomorrow is coming out, and that

(31:50):
is June twenty sixth, twenty twenty six. Probably purposeful on
the twenty six, twenty sixth thing, because you won't forget it, probably,
but that gives them a lot of time to work
on it, so hopefully it'll be good.

Speaker 2 (32:06):
Here's the really weird thing, Ariel, that's my birthday.

Speaker 1 (32:11):
Happy birthday.

Speaker 2 (32:13):
I'm gonna be fifty one when that movie comes out.

Speaker 1 (32:18):
I disbelieve I disbelieve that.

Speaker 2 (32:20):
Yeah I don't. I mean I don't believe it either.
All right, Well, if you're itching for more john Wick
material and ballet is not your thing beyond the lookout
for a different spinoff movie. And this one's gonna follow
the character of Kine, who appeared in john Wick Chapter
four and was played by Donnie Yen. Kine is and
I bet you're never gonna believe this an assassin in

(32:42):
the john Wick universe, and Yen plans to come back
and play the character again. And it's an untitled and
as yet unwritten movie. Robert Askins is writing the screenplay.

Speaker 1 (32:57):
I like Donny En. I'm tired of John Wick.

Speaker 2 (33:04):
Yeah, I'm not big on the john Wick stuff. Honestly,
it's not really my thing. I've I think i've watched
part two all the way through, and all the rest
I've kind of scrubbed through. And yeah, I while I
can appreciate the cinematography and the stunt coordination and all
that kind of stuff, the more I watch it, any

(33:29):
of the john Wick stuff, the more ludicrous that world
looks to me, because it really does come across that
literally every single person living in that universe is an assassin.

Speaker 1 (33:41):
Yeah, yeah, I mean I watched one and two and
I liked them. I don't think i've watched three yet
maybe I watched three? How many? So this is chapter four?

Speaker 2 (33:51):
No, chapter four has already come out this Donnie Yen
is doing a spinoff.

Speaker 1 (33:55):
Oh okay, so I've at least watched the first two.
Maybe I have watched the first three. I don't remember.
Because it's all mad Assassins. They kind of sadly blend together.
It's not I think anybody's doing a poor job.

Speaker 2 (34:09):
It's just that. Yeah, no, I hear you. I've watched.
I've watched most of the first three. I've only seen
clips from the fourth one, And yeah, I feel the
same way.

Speaker 1 (34:23):
Yeah, mad Assassins is a great name for a band
or a TV show though.

Speaker 2 (34:31):
Yeah, so we have some stuff to chat about. One
of the first things is kind of I grouped it
all together because the upfronts happened over the last couple
of weeks. And in case you're not familiar with that term,
upfronts is when a media company will do a presentation
announcing upcoming projects, and it's all usually in an effort

(34:56):
to get advertisers on board or sometimes media buyers on board,
so that you're exciting the folks who will be funding
your work. Like essentially this, these are your I mean,
in some ways, these are your customers. So upfront, typically
a lot of companies will pull out a lot of

(35:18):
stops in an effort to really impress advertisers, so you
get a lot of stars appearing at these things. And
that was the case for the last couple of weeks.
Lots of companies held their upfronts, and I had Netflix, Disney,
and Amazon specifically pulled out to chat about only because
these are ones that were making more of the geeky stuff.

(35:42):
Like originally I did have a story in here about
the regular broadcast stations, but honestly, there's not really any
genre kind of stuff on their slates. It's all what
you would expect. It's all police procedurals or medical procedurals
or relash game TV.

Speaker 1 (36:03):
Yeah, honestly, I don't know other than more of the
same of what's successful on Netflix, I don't really know
what they're doing that's geeky, Yeah, that's new. However, two
interesting things from their upfront to me and you probably
have more to talk about, is one they the geeky

(36:27):
thing is they had a bunch of like interactive experiences
based off of things like Stranger Things and squid games
and some of the more popular properties. I think they
had a bridgerd and tea party, which is better than
some other Bridgerton stuff they could have done that was interactive.
But the thing that I thought was interesting is Mindy

(36:48):
Kaling has a basketball show coming out with Kate Hudson,
which what a pair uh and was joking about, Yeah,
we'll put whatever ads we want in it, and Netflix
is like, We're going to be real specific here. Our
ads are going to be strategic and we hope we'll
add value to the viewers. We're not just going to
throw whatever ads want to buy time in there. We're

(37:10):
going to really try to make it purposeful to what
the person is watching and what their interests are based
on what they're watching. Hopefully that's the case. We all know.
I'm not as anti commercial as many other people. I
used to love watching them as a kid to be like,
oh that's a new toy I didn't know about. And
I still don't mind because I don't shop a lot,

(37:31):
so sometimes I still learn new things that interest me.
And I also know that if you don't want to
pay premiums for your streaming, that's the other way to
support it. So if you want your shows to have
more support that's other than watching them. That's you either
pay for a higher subscription or you pay for commercial
So I don't mind that. I think it's really interesting though,
because that's something that could possibly rub advertisers the wrong way.

(37:56):
But I'm glad they're stating it. I hope they stick
to it.

Speaker 2 (37:59):
I think it's a really smart move, and I think
like it's kind of similar to my own personal approach
to ads when I run ads on my other show,
like when I run ads on tech stuff, I always
want to make sure that I approve ads that I
feel are aligned with the show and with my audience,

(38:20):
And if they're not, then I'm like, listen, your advertising
money is going to be better spent advertising on a
different show because my audience is not going to respond
well to it, and you have spent time and money
putting these ads together. You should definitely find the platforms
that best fit so that you get the best return.

(38:41):
I want that for everyone. I want my listeners to
not be bombarded by ads that aren't relevant or are
even insulting, and I want the advertisers to get the
listeners they need, like the actual customers to connect to them.
So to me, like, this is one of those no
brainer kind of approach, which is that the industry just
has been lagging on largely because it's hard to do.

(39:07):
Like it's it's a lot easier to sell bundles than
it is to sell individual ad spots. So I think
it's a great approach. It'll be curious to see if
that's how it actually plays out when we see it
really in full effect. As for the participatory stuff, personally,
for me, the thing I would want to participate in

(39:30):
is it's been a very long time since I climbed
into a WWE wrestling ring and they had one there,
and I would have loved to have done it again.

Speaker 1 (39:39):
Oh man, that's you know. I had a family friend,
one of one of my my sister's parents, told me
that I really missed the market in life by not
becoming a wrestler between my like for doing stage combat
and drama. And I kind of sometimes feel that way.
If I can get back up to snuff, it's something

(40:02):
I would like to try once, maybe not full force.

Speaker 2 (40:06):
I was about to say, like, if you think your
back is hurting, now, let me tell you that's that's
like a guarantee for wrestlers if they stay in it
for any linked because I mean you're hitting, you're landing
on your back on a hard surface. Like I've put
a ring together, and it is amazing how little, how

(40:26):
how unforgiving those rings are. You think at first when
you're a kid that they're kind of springy. They are not.

Speaker 1 (40:35):
I mean, this is why sports tend to be like
a younger person thing, because just you, you bounce back easier.
Had I had a friend when he was younger. I
have a friend when he was younger did a TLC
circuit in wrestling, So yeah, it can be rough.

Speaker 2 (40:52):
Yeah, if you're doing tables, ladders and chairs, you're man. Yeah,
that's a short career you're looking for.

Speaker 1 (41:01):
I agree with you on on the what you what you?
What you had to say about the commercials was very
insightful and awesome because you're awesome, Jonathan, You're very sweet.
Did we talk last week, Well, we didn't talk last
week at all, But do we talk previously about the
fact that Disney and Hulu and Max are going to
be releasing a bundle?

Speaker 2 (41:20):
Uh we I think we mentioned it. There's also another
bundle that's been announced since then with Comcast talking about
uh uh, I forget which ones are a bundle together
in that one, but we're getting so many different bundles
now that the streaming landscape is slowly morphing into what
cable television was.

Speaker 1 (41:40):
Yeah. Yeah, I was going to say that I hope
that as they do this, as they integrate ads back in,
because they will, that they also take this Netflix approach,
because I get so I get so tired when I
do put something on on network TV, because it's nice
to be like, I don't I used to pay for

(42:00):
Hulu Life. I don't right now, but it would be
nice to be like, I want to watch something, but
I have no clue what that is, and instead of
flipping through a thousand streaming channels and being like there's
too many options and I don't know, I'd be like, oh,
this thing is playing on this channel. I've wanted to
check it out or something, and then I could possibly
watch a bunch of stuff. But I got really really

(42:20):
tired of like AARP commercials in the middle of it
because it's the daytime, and they suspect old people watch
TV during the day. After the pandemic, lots of people
do I know a lot of people like to have
it on kind of in the background as they work.

Speaker 2 (42:36):
So yeah, and for me, like when I'm watching streaming stuff,
it doesn't happen all the time, but it seems to
happen in waves where the streaming services I'm on the
ones that are ADS supported, and I'm not subscribed at
a higher level, I tend to get out of the blue.
I'll start getting ads in Spanish and I don't know why.

(43:00):
I like I. I'm like, I this ad is as
missing the mark as much as possible because I have
never taken Spanish in my life. I have no idea
what anyone is saying. It is no bueno.

Speaker 1 (43:17):
Yeah, yeah, I'm glad it's not just me.

Speaker 2 (43:21):
Yeah. Occasionally it'll be a Spanish version of an ad
I have seen in English and I'm like, oh, I
know what this ad is for because it's the exact
same beats as the English version, but it's different actors
and it's in Spanish.

Speaker 1 (43:35):
Yeah. It happens to me on social media too, I'm like,
what did I do? Because I I learned French instead
of Spanish. Yeah, and I'm learning Finnish because I just
want my additional languages to be as unwidely used as possible.
Apparently nothing against people who speak Finnish. I think it's

(43:57):
an awesome language. I've actually been able to audition for
some stuff where they wanted people who could speak Finnish
or had some association with that. I love it. It's
a huge, awesome challenge, but it's not like I can
use it in everyday life. So did anything geeky stand
out to you about the Amazon upfront?

Speaker 2 (44:18):
Well, I mean some stuff which is I think not
really directly geeky, but like I so, for example, legally Blonde,
I don't think of Legally Blonde as a particularly geeky movie,
but it did inspire a musical, which I do think
is pretty geeky. And while and I know a lot

(44:38):
of people in the geek sphere who also are fans
of Legally Blonde, which I did not realize even had
a sequel to it. And now there's going to be
a prequel series to Legally Blonde. So I'm wondering how
my friends will feel about that, because I'm wondering how
many of them were, Like, I just need to know
what Elle was like in high school. What I'm pretty

(45:01):
sure I already know, but.

Speaker 1 (45:05):
I mean they could take it a couple of ways.
Reese Witherspoon is helping to produce it, right, yes, so
that might help because she's got a really good pulse
on the character.

Speaker 2 (45:18):
So yeah, and you know, there was other stuff as well.
The Amazon ended up announcing, I mean, the fact that
we're going to get a noir Spider Man live action
with Nick Cage in it. That's wild.

Speaker 1 (45:33):
So I shared this with friends after you shared it
with me, and I don't know how to feel with
feel about it because I love the idea of Nick
Cage being Spider Noir, but also and all of like
the Spider Verse stuff which they're planning on doing more
with along with Noir is awesome. However, it's also the

(45:56):
same group that brought us Morbius and Craven and Madame Webb.

Speaker 2 (46:00):
Yeah, it's all the and I like Venom, but yeah,
it's all the tangential Spider Verse stuff, you know, the
things that are like, hey, we're bringing you Spider Man
story is just you know, not with the Spider Man character. Yeah,
it's that group. And as you say, Aeriel, like, they
do not have the best track record, and it's not

(46:21):
like like if it had been if it was announced
that was the same team that actually did the Into
the Spider Verse stories, then you'd be like, well, this
storytelling is going to be incredible. It'll be interesting to
see how they tell a story in live action as
opposed to animation. But that's not what we're getting. So yeah,
the subject matter is really interesting. The people who are

(46:44):
currently behind the stories are somewhat concerning.

Speaker 1 (46:50):
Yeah, oddly we're getting a Roadhouse sequel.

Speaker 2 (46:58):
Road Maybe it'll be Highway Home.

Speaker 1 (47:01):
Highway Home.

Speaker 2 (47:01):
Yeah, everything's bigger and better.

Speaker 1 (47:05):
So and then the prequel be well like uh Wayne Lounge, Yeah,
well exactly.

Speaker 2 (47:11):
Well, I mean you could just do a sequel to
Roadhouse where the entire movie is just them slowly repairing
the damage that was done to the bar in Roadhouse,
because the most difficult thing for me to believe in
that movie was them opening for business when a car
was still sticking out of the building.

Speaker 1 (47:34):
Rotorhouser, did you watch Did.

Speaker 2 (47:36):
You watch that film yet?

Speaker 1 (47:38):
The new Underno, I haven't had an opportunity. I want to.

Speaker 2 (47:42):
It is ridiculous, it is. I enjoyed it for what
it was, which I wouldn't call it Grand Cinema or anything.
But I enjoyed it. But yeah, the the damage that's
done to that establishment by the end, you're like, yeah,
the sequel would just be two hours of watching contractors
look at a hole in the law and say yop.

Speaker 1 (48:04):
I mean, according to Zezlov, people like watching home repair shows.

Speaker 2 (48:11):
I mean, he says that, But good lord, they sure did.
Never mind, that's me going off on a discovery.

Speaker 1 (48:16):
Yeah, you know, and I want to be careful because
so I might end up working for some of these
people someday, and I would gladly take a job. So
but so does does the New Roadhouse movie answer the
infamous question what came first the House of the Road?

Speaker 2 (48:32):
I don't know. Maybe maybe it really looks into why
pain don't hurt? M Yeah, but that was only that
was only in the Patrick Swayze one. There. I don't
remember there being a moment where the new film used
that line. But it's the dumbest line I think I've
ever heard, pain don't hurt.

Speaker 1 (48:51):
It's it's all the anticipation. Surprisingly, though, the the upfront
that interested me the lead was the Disney one.

Speaker 2 (49:01):
Really, so yeah, so you you are not anticipating Agatha
all along.

Speaker 1 (49:09):
I don't think. I don't think I was looking forward
to it Now.

Speaker 2 (49:13):
I think I was simply because Catherine Hahn is so
talented and so entertaining that while I have no idea
what story they want to tell or how, if at all,
it relates to the rest of the MCU, I want
to see her playing that character more so. Gotcha that,

(49:35):
But that's because of how good she was in Wanda Vision,
and we know obviously that's not a guarantee that the
series will be fantastic.

Speaker 1 (49:45):
Yeah. I really liked her in Wanda Vision until they
went to the stuff that wasn't her. I liked her
slow reveal right, and I liked her as the best
friend before we knew. I think she's a great actress
in that she did wonderful with the role. But once
she came the big villain, I found the show much
less interesting.

Speaker 2 (50:03):
I'd liked it. I liked the the confrontation at the end,
even though it did fall into the whole MCU thing
of people flying around at each other, which has been
done so many times in so many different MCU projects.
But yeah, I can see what you're saying. I mean,
there's you're valid in your criticism. I will say, like,

(50:26):
the more I see of The Acolyte, the less I care.
The Acolyte is another Star Wars series that's coming out.
It doesn't look like it's done poorly. It looks like
it's done with a good budget. And again no shade
on the actors in the series. I think I'm just

(50:46):
completely burnt out on Star Wars, like you heard me
in thirty seconds or less, like I pretty much dismissed
the Mandalorian and Groku because.

Speaker 1 (50:55):
It is a dumb name.

Speaker 2 (50:56):
Well also just because the fact that they've reunited those
two characters so quickly and not even in the Mandalorian.
It was in the Book of boba Bet that they
lost me.

Speaker 1 (51:08):
I agree, and the last season of Mandalorian was hit
or miss for me. There are episodes I loved, but
then there are episodes that I thought were pretty weak.
We did get a release date for Agatha All Along,
which is like the seventh name for the show. One
of the more recent ones that was only briefly announced
was Agatha, The Lying Witch and the Wardrobe, which I

(51:31):
think is a delightful play on the Lion, the Witch
and the Wardrobe. But it will be coming out in
September of this year, So if you are looking forward
to it, that's great. I think for me, the biggest
thing with the Disney up front is how kind of
like raunchy they went. Yeah, because like it's fine. I

(51:54):
like Deadpool, right, and it's not that I dislike all roun,
but like that's not what I go to Disney mainly for.

Speaker 2 (52:03):
Yeah, part of me wonders if this is like over
compensation for the fact that the pandemic and then the
writers and actors strikes really did a number on the
more recent years for things like upfronts, and that things
had been scaled back for so long that it's almost

(52:25):
like there's all this pent up energy that needed to
be let out. And because the Amazon upfront was also raunchy,
like there was there's some salty, salty language at least.
And it's crazy because I think back to when I
was working as part of Discovery Communications, Like I would
hear about upfronts from that side from the inside. I

(52:49):
wasn't there, I wasn't important enough to be there, but
I would hear about it and it was just a
totally different kind of tone, like you know, you might
bring out some folks that were known for being a
little offbeat, you know, like the Duck Dynasty guys or whatever.
But you didn't hear about people dropping f bombs and

(53:11):
stuff while on stage trying to entice advertisers to support
your shows. So it's a different world, and it is
odd to see it with Disney. I mean, Disney has
had a long history of having film studios that produced
works that didn't fall directly under the Disney umbrella. I mean,
I remember when Splash came out, for example, you definitely

(53:33):
was thought of that as a Disney film.

Speaker 1 (53:34):
Wasn't pulp fiction also under the Disney I think.

Speaker 2 (53:37):
It was under Miramax, which was under Disney.

Speaker 1 (53:39):
So yeah, poor Things is which I didn't realize.

Speaker 2 (53:43):
But yeah, So it's the company that is a giant
media company. It's just that the stuff that's most directly
associated with its name is family friendly entertainment. So that
does make it very odd when you see people being
blue working blue up on stage while trying to, you know,

(54:03):
entice advertisers to come join the fold.

Speaker 1 (54:07):
Yeah, which also, like I sometimes enjoy Jimmy Kimmel humor.
I love his fake his fake war with Matt dam
Damon yeah, because I know it's fake, but do better.

Speaker 2 (54:23):
Yeah, I mean, I don't know, you can go blue.
It's just it's Yeah, I that whole story didn't hit
sit with me super well. But that was because again,
like I'm a little I think I'm a little old
fashioned when it comes to how you conduct yourself in

(54:45):
a professional way in like a business environment. But I
get it, like it's entertainment. It's different than if you
were meeting in a boardroom. And I don't know I have.
Anyone who hangs out with me personally knows I can
have some salty language, but if I'm in a professional setting,

(55:06):
that does not happen. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (55:10):
Me, me, I'm a delicate flip and flower.

Speaker 2 (55:13):
Yeah, I've only heard aerial curse whenever I was around her.

Speaker 1 (55:17):
So I I only do it when I'm around you, Jean.
That's not true at all. That is sadly not true.
I did cut it out so like I used to
work as a daycare teacher, and when you're around the kids,
you don't cuss it all right, So like when I
was outside of that, it kind of all came out.
And lately I've gotten back into this habit of using

(55:39):
cuss words, and I don't like it. So I'm trying
to there are more clever ways that I can I
put emphasis on sentences. So I'm trying to bring some
of like that back, some of like the.

Speaker 2 (55:56):
I'll share with you some of the scholarship about how
using curse words can be a sign of intelligence.

Speaker 1 (56:02):
That'll I know, I know that it is, but I also, like,
you know, I just played an Old West Victorian larp,
so like they have some great language that nowadays wouldn't
be considered a curse word or a cussword, but back
then it might have been.

Speaker 2 (56:21):
Well, if you want to, if you really want if
you really want a thorough education and cursing during the
mid nineteenth century, watch Deadwood, because they weave curses in
like it's poetry. It is in sae.

Speaker 1 (56:38):
Well done. Sometimes sometimes a period piece can do it
and I'm like, that's well done. And sometimes they do
it and I feel like it's done. Just to give
it a more adult rating.

Speaker 2 (56:48):
Yeah, Deadwood. Deadwood could do either side. Like sometimes I
felt like it was phenomenal and sometimes I felt like, okay,
you're this is.

Speaker 1 (56:58):
A crutch, So for you, is it cuss, curse or swear?

Speaker 2 (57:03):
Technically I'm talking about. I usually say curse, but but
in my head it's cuss because I grew up in
rural Georgia. It's just that I've gradually weeded out almost
all the regional slang in my speech.

Speaker 1 (57:25):
Interesting for me, it used to be swear. I hate
when people say curse word because I'm like, it's not
like to me, a curse is something different than a cuss.
And now because a swear is something different than swearing,
like swearing in is different than swearing at somebody because
you're mad, right, I'm like, cuss is the one that

(57:47):
can be least confused for something else. I mean, so
I've kind of got the other direction.

Speaker 2 (57:52):
Sometimes words mean other things, as the great Hello from
the Magic Tavern topic, sometimes words mean other words. Yeah, well,
we've got other news items we can talk about. One
of those is that we got a teaser trailer for
the Francis Ford Coppola film Megalopolis. And first we got

(58:16):
a first look, which really wasn't a teaser. It was
literally just a tiny snippet of a scene which seemed
pretty confusing. And then we got a trailer which cleared
everything up by making it way more confusing.

Speaker 1 (58:31):
Yeah, it had so many different tones to it, and
I liked many of those tones, but I couldn't figure
out how they all fit together. And then immediately afterwards,
I think, didn't the movie release like Thursday of this week?

Speaker 2 (58:43):
Did it? It's entirely possible, Like, why would we get
a teaser for something that came out like two days later?
That's entirely possible. I have been so out of pocket
that I would I didn't follow up. I watched the
trailer and I thought it was the most stylized stuff
I had seen from Francis Ford Coppola since he did

(59:06):
Bram Stoker's Dracula.

Speaker 1 (59:10):
Yeah, I will agree with that. It says the initial
release was May sixteenth. I don't know if that's a
full wide release. I've been traveling, so I haven't looked.

Speaker 2 (59:17):
Yeah, so we're recording this the day after that. So yeah,
odd that we didn't get a trailer further in advance, right.

Speaker 1 (59:27):
Yeah, Well, I also don't know if it's like initial
release in like the Cans Sun Dance.

Speaker 2 (59:32):
Oh okay, yeah, the festival circuit, or.

Speaker 1 (59:36):
Like can I go out to the to the theater
and watch it right now? On Rotten Tomatoes, it's like
it's interesting on Rotten Tomatoes, it's fifty percent on IMDb,
it's seven point two out of ten, but eighty eight
percent of Google users like this movie current.

Speaker 2 (59:52):
Yeah, the trailer gets very surreal, and like I said,
it gets really cinematic and artistic in its in its
expression of the scenes, Like it's not shot like a
straightforward movie. There's a lot of color grading going on,

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like there are scenes that are almost completely bathed in
golden light and others that are bathed in blue light.
And to a point where it was making me feel
like it was a a Dario Argento film from the seventies.
He's an Italian filmmaker who famously would use the color
red to express something of great shock in a in

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a scene. This felt kind of similar to that. Like
as I was watching it, I'm like, oh, is this
gonna feel like Dracula where the cinematic gimmicks that he's
using are going to distract me from the movie, because
that's the way the trailer comes across. But that's just
a trailer, so I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:00:59):
Yeah, yeah, I'll be interested to see. I think we
might actually have to wait a little longer. It looks
like it premiered on May sixteenth at the Cans Film Fest.

Speaker 2 (01:01:09):
Yeh, gotcha. So those keeping in mind that those reviews
are for a very select few people, and occasionally people
will give very positive reviews because they want to make
sure they can come back to can.

Speaker 1 (01:01:25):
Yeah, yeah, yep, I am intrigued.

Speaker 2 (01:01:29):
I am too. The general we haven't even talked about
what the plot is, but it's sort of set in
an alternate version of our world, kind of in the future,
where you've got this civilization that's on the verge of
internal collapse, akin to the way Rome collapsed after it

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passed its height, and that Adam Driver is playing a
I think his name even is Caesar in the film,
So it's it's very on the nose about its inspiration,
and that Francis Ford Coppola had been trying to make
this movie for like more than a decade tible degrees.

Speaker 1 (01:02:12):
I think you started on in the seventies, well, moving
from one thing that I don't know how I feel
about to another thing I don't know how I feel about.
Let's talk about Wicked movie, which came out with like
a promotional video and then like pretty much in the
next day came out with the trailer.

Speaker 2 (01:02:26):
Yeah. So the promotional video is one in which the
director and the actors are extremely sincerely and earnestly talking
about how important the source material is to them, to
the point where they're getting emotional about it. And it
was starting to make me feel bad for slagging off
on this movie for so long, because I was like,

(01:02:47):
I don't want to hurt Ariana Grande's feelings, but I'm
still not sold on this movie adaptation. I thought the trailer,
the trailer, if you're sitting there like, Okay, this is
a movie. It's not a filmed version of the musical,
because why would you do that. It is a movie
adaptation of the musical, So they there's no reason to

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do that unless you're going to do things that only
cinema can do, right, because otherwise you could go see
a stage production. So it has to be different in
ways that make sense where you're like, these are only
things you can do in the movies. You can't do
this on stage. And I felt the trailer kind of
conveyed that I'm still concerned with how these movies are

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going to be structured, because if it's still split into
two films, and what the heck are they going to
do for part two unless they have rearranged the story, because,
as we have pointed out in previous episodes, if you
look at the soundtrack too Wicked, all the bangers are
in the first act.

Speaker 1 (01:03:54):
Hot take, the second film will just be The Wizard
of Oz.

Speaker 2 (01:04:00):
You'll go in and it'll just start and you're like, what, well.

Speaker 1 (01:04:04):
Because it feels like they show everything in the trailer
up to that point.

Speaker 2 (01:04:07):
So they show her hat on the floor of her tower,
which is I mean spoiler alert for anyone who hasn't
Saint Wicked. That's like the end of the show.

Speaker 1 (01:04:18):
So yeah, it is. I do feel a little more
confident in the actors that they've picked to portray the roles,
partially because of seeing how important the role is to them.
I worry about again, music translating into a movie. Well,
it does sometimes, but it's I feel like it flops
more often than not. I also I don't but I

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don't have as huge of a connection to the musical
as many other people do.

Speaker 2 (01:04:48):
Yeah. I actually asked our mutual friend Mandy. I saw
her this week, and Mandy, for those of you out
there who have no reason to know. This is what
I would call a fan of Wizard of Oz that's
putting it very lightly. Mandy loves the Wizard of Oz

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so much so that I still do a double take
before I pick up a Wizard of Oz thing for her,
because one, I'm worried she might already have it, and two,
there's got to come a point where she's just like,
I've got enough, y'all stop. But we haven't reached it yet.
So I asked her. I was like, how are you

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feeling about the Wicked movie? Because being such a huge
fan of the musical, I was curious what her perspective was.
She's really looking forward to it. She's really excited about it,
which I think partly speaks to how positive and optimistic
Mandy is because she's a great person, and also might

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speak to how cynical I've become.

Speaker 1 (01:05:55):
Yeah. Yeah, there are things that I am excited for.
One is hopefully seeing Jeff goldbloom be not very Jeff Goldbloomy, Yeah,
because he seems to be a little bit more serious
than I normally have seen him on film and television.

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And also I look forward to watching people who are
in their thirties and forties play college students. Not that
you can't go to college in your thirty and forties,
you totally can, but they would all be considered like
non traditional special non traditional students in real life. But

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it's it's fine because you know, they're all magical people
in a magical world, and.

Speaker 2 (01:06:42):
I mean it's they They are all meant to be
children is what they're meant to be, and they're all
being played by people who very much aren't children.

Speaker 1 (01:06:52):
I mean, even Ariana Grande. She's not old by any means,
but she is thirty ish, so but she looks timeless.
So whatever, it's just my jealousy kicking in.

Speaker 2 (01:07:06):
When when we talk about actors who are super like
like Keen on the adaptation. I don't know that anyone
is more passionate about this than Ariana Grande.

Speaker 1 (01:07:21):
Yeah, except for Mandy.

Speaker 2 (01:07:22):
Except for Mandy, but she's not part of the series,
so as far as I know, I mean, if she
shows up, I'll be really that would be delighted.

Speaker 1 (01:07:30):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, And you know, I like I do
like that the director has other experience in musical movies
and is is going to have experience in musical theater later.
So because we talked about that the other week, he's
working on I think that. I think he's the one

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working on the Crazy Rich Asians musical. So let's move
from stuff that I might be slightly positive about to
something that I'm not. I like King of the Hill
and I like The Office, But those two powerhouses of
comedy have come together to make a new trailer that

(01:08:13):
just did not land with me at all.

Speaker 2 (01:08:15):
What was that trailer for? Ariel?

Speaker 1 (01:08:18):
A cartoon for Exploding Kittens.

Speaker 2 (01:08:21):
Which is a card game. Ye from the same people
who brought us Cards against Humanity. They made a game
called Exploding Kittens years ago, and now we're getting a
Netflix series, an animated series that's inspired by that, in
which God has turned into a kitty.

Speaker 1 (01:08:42):
Cat to become less of a jerk.

Speaker 2 (01:08:45):
You know what's also really funny? The thing I think
is like the cherry on top of the Sunday for
that joke. Do you know who's voicing God? No, it's
Tom Ellis. Do you know who? Tom Ellis also played
Lucifer in the series Lucifer, So Lucifer is voicing God.

Speaker 1 (01:09:07):
That is pretty funny. So the thing is, I think
King of the Hill and Office are both really clever
in their humor most of the time. Sometimes the Office
got cringe, but this humor just felt more like family
Guy esque in its grossness and raunchiness.

Speaker 2 (01:09:24):
For me, it just didn't hit. Like I watched it.
Nothing offended me, but nothing entertained me either, right like
I watched it as like, I feel like this is
the way a lot of comedies that have been produced
in the last few years have come across to me
where it's like you can see the you can see

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the sausage being made, you can see the gears turning,
like you can almost see the decisions that were made
in the writer's room that created the scene you're watching,
and that almost seems like it would be a more
interesting story than the actual scene. Like I feel like
a series about people who are trying to make a

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comedy series would have a bigger impact on me than
the comedy series that are coming out.

Speaker 1 (01:10:16):
Yeah, yeah, there was one moment in the trailer that
did make me laugh a little bit. It's when the
Devil Cat was screaming outside the garage door, being like
I'm I'm certain of the nine House or whatever they said,
open this garage door. For me that line, Yeah, that one.

Speaker 2 (01:10:38):
Line the door is just slowly coming down while the
cat is in mid rant.

Speaker 1 (01:10:43):
Yeah yeah, because that felt very cat.

Speaker 2 (01:10:46):
Yeah yeah, well and there, I mean they did play
upon the cat stuff too, like the idea that it's
strangely satisfying to knock things off of shelves and that
kind of stuff. But yeah, it's it's like a lot
of that's just really easy joke, right, Like it's the yeah, like, yeah, haha,
cats like to knock things off, so let's make that
a joke. Like that's not really a joke. I mean,

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you can get that same effect literally by just logging
onto TikTok and searching for cat.

Speaker 1 (01:11:15):
Which I do frequently. Actually I don't need to anymore.

Speaker 2 (01:11:20):
Because they just show up the Yeah, your algorithm has
been trained to know for cat videos.

Speaker 1 (01:11:25):
Yes, yes, many mainly things I either want to train
my cats to do or they already do that make
me laugh, And I'm glad I'm not alone. So uh,
I feel like we've talked about this trailer enough.

Speaker 2 (01:11:39):
Yeah we're not. Like when I heard that there was
going to be a series based off the Card Game,
I had not high hopes, but I was intrigued because
I thought, well, that could like, there's a lot of
humor to be had, so this could be funny, depending
on what tae, what direction they go in. Yeah, like you, Ariel,

(01:12:00):
it did not really work for me. So, I mean,
I hope that it finds its audience and the people
who enjoy it enjoy it for all it's worth. That's great.
I hope you have a fantastic time. Yeah, it didn't
work for me either.

Speaker 1 (01:12:13):
Did you watch Rings of Power?

Speaker 2 (01:12:15):
I did not. I did not, but I watched the
trailer for the next season of it.

Speaker 1 (01:12:21):
Did that work for you?

Speaker 2 (01:12:22):
No? No, it did not, even though you get to
see sourn when he was pretty I.

Speaker 1 (01:12:31):
Mean you did that in the season one too.

Speaker 2 (01:12:33):
Yeah. Yeah, I mean, what's more of the same, right?
So uh, I I didn't really have a desire to
see Rings of Power because it wasn't really based off
of any of Tolkien's works that I particularly care about.
And I can understand the desire to tell more stories

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in Tolkien's world. I get that, but I usually just
don't find those particularly interesting. Like the stuff that drew
me to Tolkien was largely the same stuff that inspired
him to write the books which is that I too
have an interest in Old English linguistics and literature, which

(01:13:22):
feels weird to say, because a lot of Old English
quote unquote literature was or old traditions. We're lucky that
somebody bothered to write it down, right, because otherwise it
would have just been lost. Beowulf would not be a
thing unless someone had taken the trouble to write it down.
So I came to Tolkien's world through a very similar

(01:13:45):
path that he took to create it, although obviously he
was far more intelligent than I will ever be. But
that's probably why I don't really care to read story.
It's kind of like fan fiction. I don't really care
about fan fiction much. Prefer to read the stuff that
the creators made for their world, and that's enough for me,

(01:14:07):
and and if if there's only a limited amount of that,
that's okay.

Speaker 1 (01:14:12):
Yeah. So it wasn't based off the Simarilanmarillion.

Speaker 2 (01:14:16):
No, it's actually after the Simmer. It's after the Cimarillion.
It's after the Cinnamon Roll. The Cinnamon role happens in
the very so like the Cimmarillion, tells the story of
the creation of the world that eventually becomes Middle Earth
and tells stories that happen in the ancient times of

(01:14:37):
elves and later of men, and those stories are mostly
about Souron's old boss is Souron exists, but he's like
a second in command, he's a lieutenant. He's not He's
not the big bad in the Silmarillion. Actually there is
no big bad in Cimarillion, arguably because that's a series

(01:15:00):
of different stories. It's not just one narrative. But yeah,
it's the Rings of power kind of exist in between
that era and the stuff you see and.

Speaker 1 (01:15:09):
Lord of the Rings got you because it is pre Hobbit.

Speaker 2 (01:15:12):
Yes, yes, it's pre Third Age. I think it's the
second Age, and Sommarillion deals with the first Age.

Speaker 1 (01:15:19):
So I did watch the first series all but the
final episode, but I've had it spoiled for me what
happens at the end of the final episode, and it
was at times enjoyable and at times very slow and political.
This second trailer hit a lot better for me, and
I have a lot of friends who liked it and
thought it was good and entertaining, and there were moments

(01:15:40):
that I love. There's a great song in it that
one of the main characters sings that I absolutely love
that I've been trying to get my band to cover.
But the second trailer works much better for me if
I think of Saron as Godzilla and all of the
creepy monsters that they show as all of the or Kaiju,

(01:16:01):
and then it's a much more entertaining trailer.

Speaker 2 (01:16:04):
Yeah. Now, when you have to recontextualize a trailer so
that it works for you, that's not a great sign.

Speaker 1 (01:16:10):
Yeah, I think it's very pretty. There are a couple
of characters I really like. They at one point show
one of them in the trailer, and after that they
show a whole bunch of characters that I didn't hate,
but for some reason when I saw them, I'm like, oh,
I don't like this anymore.

Speaker 2 (01:16:24):
Yeah, I U. The biggest issue I had is not
even with the trailers at all. It's with the toxic
fandom that's around, and not fandom is the wrong word,
but the toxic culture that has developed in the comments
for those kinds of things where you know it's it's
the gate keepers and the people who think that any

(01:16:47):
attempt at diversity is h is wasted time or whatever.
I get so tired of it, and when I like
I think I think back to those videos of young
children seeing characters who look like they do and the

(01:17:07):
reactions they have when they do get to see that
on screen, when for so many that just wasn't a
thing that I'm like, can't you just like, even if
you feel like you have a point, which you don't,
by the way, but even if you feel like you do,
can't you think about the reaction these kids have and say,

(01:17:28):
maybe there's something bigger happening here that's more important than
all your dwarves being lily white.

Speaker 1 (01:17:36):
No, they can't, because those people only think about themselves
how the world revolves around them. It drives me nuts too,
And when I watched Strings of Power, I thankfully was
able to put that out of my head and enjoy
the show, because yeah, that kind of response upsets me
to no end and is dumb and completely unneeded in

(01:18:00):
this world. So for that reason alone, I support the
second season that Power.

Speaker 2 (01:18:07):
Well, and like, I definitely want to see projects that
embrace diversity and do it in a wise way, do
it in a way that that is not just token, right, Like,
I don't want to see lazy attempts at diversity, because
that's almost as bad as no diversity at all. If
you're going to be lazy with it, then you're really

(01:18:29):
just doing a disservice. So uh, that's always my concern
is not so much that there's diversity, but if it's
not done well. Like I've definitely seen a lot of
organizations that tout the concept of diversity, but they're terrible
at actually implementing anything meaningful. I don't want to see that,

(01:18:50):
and I want to make sure that when it's being
done in stories, that it's being done in the way
that supports the whole movie in the first place.

Speaker 1 (01:19:02):
Yeah, yeah, I agree. I have no good segue from
that to our next trailer.

Speaker 2 (01:19:09):
Well, well, moving from one fantasy world to another, how
about that? There we go. We're going to talk about
another series.

Speaker 1 (01:19:19):
Yes, another prequel, Doom Prophecy. And I was sitting here
trying to think up earlier today, not while you were
were talking, just now, because that's super important. Of Like,
if Dune is the first movie, and Dune Dune is
the second movie, and Dun Dun Dune is the third movie,

(01:19:39):
what would this prequel be called? And I'm coming up
with nothing.

Speaker 2 (01:19:42):
Duh, duh, d No, it's not the d because this
is all about women. Yeah, Dune prophecy is it's supposed
to take place ten thousand years before the time of Dune,
which already have a problem. But this is Frank Herbert's fault,
not the series fault. And the only reason I say

(01:20:05):
I have a problem with it's very snarky, like, Ariel,
have you ever had a thing where you're going to
go see like a science fiction film or a fantasy
film or or TV series, whatever it may be, and
it's set in a fantastical world, a world that simply
cannot exist, like magic happens, or there's science that just

(01:20:28):
is not accessible to us, and all of that is
easy to believe, but then there's one mundane thing that
doesn't make sense to you, and you're like, hey, hang on,
that doesn't work, and that just Okay, this happens to
me all the time, and it happened to me watching
this trailer.

Speaker 1 (01:20:44):
Okay, I'm glad you moved on, because if you were
going to ask me to tell you what that was,
I wouldn't be able to tell you. But I know
it's happened multiple times. So what was the thing that
bothered you that was completely undy?

Speaker 2 (01:20:52):
So the series is set ten thousand and again this
might be I haven't read the Frank Herbert novels, so
this could very well be in the sourcemential itself. But
the series is set ten thousand years before the story
that we see in Dune. In the Dune.

Speaker 1 (01:21:10):
Film said there are no ewoks.

Speaker 2 (01:21:13):
No, I'm wondering why there's a hearkenin family ten thousand years.

Speaker 1 (01:21:18):
So I think it's the I think, and again I've
I've it's been a very I've read the first Dune book.
It's been a very long time, and I'm familiar with
the other stories, though I haven't read them personally, I've
been told about them. I think this is how the
Benny jesterit create the Hearkening family.

Speaker 2 (01:21:40):
Just to me, like the idea of a family existing
for ten thousand years is hard because again as a medievalist,
like I've been studying families like family lines that stretch
back a couple thousand years, but when you get further
back beyond that, you don't have surnames that last that long,

(01:22:04):
like ten thousand years. That's the history of humanity right there,
before we even got to the point where we were
writing stuff down, and you think about how much time
has changed, like many, how much people have changed just
in one hundred years, let alone ten thousand. That's when
I'm like, ain't no way they'd have the name harkening.

Speaker 1 (01:22:22):
But that's how That's what tells you how powerful the
Benny Jesser it are. That they have set up this
line of power that has been so strong for an
unimaginable amount of time.

Speaker 2 (01:22:33):
That is the whole point. Yeah, but that's why I'm
having the issues like I run into that's just my
wall because I sit there and I look at the
real world and I'm like, no, that couldn't work. I
don't care how much magic spice you got shoven around
in your head, it just ain't happening.

Speaker 1 (01:22:49):
It's fantasy, John.

Speaker 2 (01:22:51):
I know, I know, I know I should be able
to get past it, but I can't.

Speaker 1 (01:22:55):
No, that's reasonable. There are things that I cannot get
past that are completely mundane as well.

Speaker 2 (01:23:01):
I'll say this don't trailer looks beautiful?

Speaker 1 (01:23:06):
It does, It really does. And the cast is great
from what I've seen so far.

Speaker 2 (01:23:12):
Yeah, that red dress, it just is so vibrant. Like
the cinematography is also great in the trailer, Like you
can tell a lot of money and care has been
put into this series, and I gotta admit, like the
story of the Bena Jesuit and they're they're packed. That

(01:23:33):
has gosh, if you want to talk about long term planning,
that's what the Bena jeserit are all about. They're like, Okay,
well this is this is going to take you know,
two thousand generations or so, but it's really going to
pay off eventually.

Speaker 1 (01:23:50):
Yeah. Yeah, I like how they're not just like complete
dios X making of good guys too, Like.

Speaker 2 (01:23:57):
Well, they're complicated, right, Like they have their motivations and
in some cases that is in alignment with other people,
and in other cases it's in opposition. And that you know,
it's it's kind of like the whole thing is like
theirs is an order that has a very specific end
goal in mind. Uh, and that end goal sometimes is

(01:24:21):
going to be in alignment with whomever's in power, and
in other cases it's going to be direct in opposition.
It's a fascinating take on the epic.

Speaker 1 (01:24:31):
Yeah, and and and their their mindset is very much
one of the ends justify the means, yes, which is
not always great. And also don't question us, which is
also not great.

Speaker 2 (01:24:47):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, don't question authority and no matter and
it and we'll do whatever it takes to get to
our goal.

Speaker 1 (01:24:58):
Yeah. That being said, I've seen the first two Dune
movies and I enjoyed them well enough, so I look
forward to this series.

Speaker 2 (01:25:04):
I still need to see the second one. I've seen
the first one.

Speaker 1 (01:25:07):
I felt it was I personally felt it was better
than the first one.

Speaker 2 (01:25:10):
That's what I've heard a lot of people give, like
a similar kind of.

Speaker 1 (01:25:15):
Just for the sound mixing, which I also had issue
with in the trailer for megaopolipse like Megaopolis Mega. It's
like that woman on TikTok who TikTok? Who can't She's
German and she can't say rhinoceros.

Speaker 2 (01:25:29):
Let's say mega, so she can't.

Speaker 1 (01:25:31):
She can't say rhinosters. She can't say hippotamus.

Speaker 2 (01:25:33):
Say Mega octopus, Mega octopus.

Speaker 1 (01:25:36):
That's another Robert Corman, Roger Corman, Yes, rot geez Louise.
First it was Richard, then it was Robert Roger Corman.

Speaker 2 (01:25:46):
I don't it's kind more fine. Your brain is still
in Chicago.

Speaker 1 (01:25:50):
It is. It is like I I turned on to
Chicago time, right as I was leaving, which is unfortunately. Yeah,
it takes me.

Speaker 2 (01:25:57):
That happens to me every single time I go to
a different times. Is I adjust just as it's time
for me to go back home?

Speaker 1 (01:26:03):
Yeah, Well, speaking of time, this has been an extra
epic episode, which we knew. We have one more trailer
to talk about, which I think is maybe the coolest
of them all.

Speaker 2 (01:26:12):
Yeah. Yeah. It's for a Brazilian film called Bionic, which
is going to get distribution here in the United States
on Netflix, and it's set in a future in which
people have been people can undergo surgery, like let's say
you've injured your arm or your leg, you can get

(01:26:35):
a bionic replacement, and the bionics at this point perform
at a level that's better than human performance, so you
can have greater strength and speed than you would if
you had your natural limbs, and the world is taking
It's a world where people who have these enhanced limbs

(01:26:55):
are entering into professional sports, or even just amateur sports,
but Olympic levels, and kind of exploring what that means.
And one of the film follows two sisters, one of
whom has a bionic prosthetic and the other one doesn't.

(01:27:15):
And kind of like, how does the person who is unenhanced, like,
what is their place in a world like that? And
do you actually give into temptation and undergo surgery not
because you've got an injured limb, but because you want
to be able to compete at a level that only

(01:27:38):
the enhanced can. And it made me think of I
don't know if you even paid attention to this back
at the time, Aerial, but there was that era of
professional baseball where there was just steroids and human growth
hormone scandals like left, Right, and Center, and there were
some people who were saying, like, no, I think we

(01:27:58):
should allow both steroid and and growth hormone in baseball
because those games will be more exciting because people will
be able to hit the ball harder. It'll be like
home runs will be more impressive. And it raised like
questions like, wait, what's what are we talking about here?
Are we talking about people who are performing at the

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peak of human ability but they're unenhanced or are we
talking about the entertainment factor that comes along with people
who are doing stuff that your normal, average person just
could not do.

Speaker 1 (01:28:33):
Yeah, and I think that this particular trailer, I guess
it'll be interesting to see how they go because they
could pull from it a message that I don't particularly
agree about that is exclusionary to people in sports based
on things that are about them that they cannot change.

Speaker 2 (01:28:51):
Sure. Yeah, there's like a whole discussion here that where
you've got the parallel with like transgender athletes, and then
that raises some some very tricky questions and like we're
seeing that play out around the world right now too,
where people are being denied the opportunity to compete.

Speaker 1 (01:29:12):
So, you know, I don't know what message they're going
to take from this, but a very first glance without
thinking about it beyond being entertained by the trailer, I
look forward to a story where people with prosthetic limbs
are not considered less than or less capable, you know,
that kind of spits in the in the face of ableism.

Speaker 2 (01:29:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:29:36):
Yeah, and so that's what I'm hoping for from it.

Speaker 2 (01:29:39):
Yeah, there's gosh. I My hope is that it's the
sort of thing that when you watch it, you're like,
this is really thought provoking and it can really prompt
a lot of thoughtful conversations. And I would I would
say that there's a lot of stuff in this world,
this particular like like world of topic that it's so

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complicated that I'm constantly re evaluating how I think and
how I approach this stuff, because I mean, certainly I'm
a different person than I was ten years ago, like
I might have had very different thoughts about things, and
I think a lot of that also comes from having

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contact with people who have come from very different life
experiences and developing compassion for the things they've gone through.
And yeah, that's to me, like it's weird too, because
it's not like this trailer is hitting you over the head.
It doesn't feel like it's heavy handed in that approach.
But all of this.

Speaker 1 (01:30:42):
Really think about this until we were talking about it.

Speaker 2 (01:30:44):
Just well that's the thing is I watched and all
this stuff kind of came to me unprompted, and I
felt like, I don't know if that was the intent
of the filmmaker, but that's what I'm getting out of it,
and to me, that's that's a mark of something that's special.

Speaker 1 (01:30:57):
Yeah. Also special to me is the trailer is in
I guess Portuguese and which I don't speak, and watching
the trailer, I completely forgot that I was reading subtitles.

Speaker 2 (01:31:09):
Yeah, now it looks like it looks really really well
done for a film that didn't come out of your
typical like Hollywood studio pipeline.

Speaker 1 (01:31:22):
Yes, which shows you you can make new and creative
and cool content without having to go through that major
studio pipeline and rehash the same old wheel. Yeah. With that,
we could talk so much more. But man, we have
already talked a lot.

Speaker 2 (01:31:37):
Yes, it is time to wrap up because I will
be editing this show forever. Nice thing is, we didn't
have a lot of stumbles in this one, so it's
not like I'm going to be doing a lot of it.
It's it's mostly going to be putting in the music
for thirty seconds or less.

Speaker 1 (01:31:50):
Yeah, or cutting out where my headphone cord accidentally hits
the table a whole.

Speaker 2 (01:31:54):
Bit, or when I was sniffing. Yeah, those will be
like the big bits about me, just like muting little we.

Speaker 1 (01:32:00):
Have to sniffs in. They'll think you're being emotional. Oh anyhow,
thank you for listening. As always, we really appreciate you
being a part of our geeky community. Jonathan. If folks
want to reach out to us to share their thoughts
on what we talked about or tell us things that
they think that we're like whole genres of the geek community.

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They think that we're missing out talking on how would
they reach out to us.

Speaker 2 (01:32:25):
Well, what you're going to do is you're going to
learn how that whole movie making system works, but you're
going to learn how to do it on a level
that is budget conscious and efficient, like to the point
where you can get a film shot in like two
weeks and edited the next week and then out in theaters,

(01:32:45):
then to the home rental market licketty split. The reason
that you're going to do this is because the world
needs more Roger Corman's and we've already lost the one
great Roger Corman. So now I'm sorry falls to you.
It's your gig. You're gonna be the new Roger Korman.
You're gonna make the next superhero film that's low budget

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that tells us why superhero stories are so resonant without
having to rely upon crazy cgi and big name actors.
It's gonna be low budget, it's gonna look low budget,
but it's gonna have heart, and that's what's gonna matter
the most. Once that movie comes out, and literally nobody

(01:33:29):
but like four people see it, but those four people
become like the most devoted evangelists to that film, and
they just start to lose friendships over how often they
are recommending this movie to the people who are close
to them. Once that happens, you'll hear a knock at
your door. It's me, and I'm there to fund your
next movie and also answer whatever question it was that

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you had.

Speaker 1 (01:33:52):
Were you referencing all superheroes must die?

Speaker 2 (01:33:55):
Not directly?

Speaker 1 (01:33:57):
Okay? Anyhow, if you don't think you've got the next
superhero thought provoking movie, or even the next shark to
posts versus whale wolf in you, you can reach out
to us through traditional methods on social media. We are
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on Twitter, slash x. We are LLNC Underscore podcast, or
you can reach out to us long form at large
nerdron Pod at gmail dot com. I am a little
behind on getting notes up onto the website due to
all of my travel, but I will be catching up
on that this weekend. That website is www dot Large, Nerd,
Drunk Collider dot com. Surprise Surprise. Like I said before,

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we love y'all. Thank you so much for being a
part of the geeky conversation and until next time, I
have been, Ariel, thank you for not making me watch
that trailer.

Speaker 2 (01:34:52):
Caston and I have been. Jonathan, try to eat something.
It'll calm your aggravation. Strickland The Large Nerdron Collider was
created by Ariel Caston and produced, edited, published, deleted, undeleted,
published again. Cursed at by Jonathan Strickland. Music by Kevin

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McLeod of incomptech dot com