LNC Goes to See Beetlejuice

Ariel and Jonathan share their opinions about Beetlejuice Beetlejuice, plus they dive into the week's entertainment headlines and talk about a whole mess of trailers. Which horror movies will Ariel go see? Which ones will Jonathan skip? And what the heck is going on in It's What's Inside?

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:08):
Hey, everybody. Welcome to the Large Nerdrunk Collider podcast, the
podcast that's all about the geeky things happening in the
world around us and how very excited we are about them.
I'm Ariel Caston, and with me, as always is the
ever patient, ever kind, ever wonderful Johnathan.

Speaker 2 (00:24):
Stream me sleepy.

Speaker 1 (00:27):
You can't take that from me. I'm so sleepy.

Speaker 2 (00:30):
Yeah, we are both sleepy here.

Speaker 1 (00:33):
Yes, it doesn't help that it's kind of like gray
and rainy.

Speaker 2 (00:36):
Out And I had, like I had more lunch than
I should have had, so I'm in like that full
post lunch, want to take a nap mode.

Speaker 1 (00:50):
I am in sleep deprivation mode, which will be fun.
And I forgot I'm just now realizing I forgot to
make coffee. I could be up here with coffee and
ushers right now, but instead I'm gonna be stumbling to
speak English.

Speaker 2 (01:06):
Yeah, I already I had a cup of coffee this morning.
And because because of my medical fun times, I am
only really allowing myself one cup of coffee a day,
and I am regretting that that decision. I mean, it's
a decision that my kidneys absolutely require me to make.
But I really wish I could have another cup of

(01:29):
coffee or even just a tea, like like something hot
that could help me kind of get through it.

Speaker 1 (01:36):
So could you do like an herbal tea like like
a like an herbal tea that doesn't have actual tea
leaves in it?

Speaker 2 (01:43):
Yeah, I can do, I believe. So. I mean, it's
so here's the complicated thing. And Ariel and I have
talked about this. I don't think I've mentioned it on
the show. Maybe I have, because who knows. At this
point my brain is is Swiss cheese. But I have
like a list of food that I'm to not completely avoid,

(02:03):
but to severely limit how much I can have because
otherwise it can cause issues. And they are foods that
have that are high in oxalates because those can contribute
to the types of kidney stones I can develop, which
is one of, but not the only, medical issue that
I face. And so coffee and tea are both on it.

(02:23):
But I think that when they have that they mean
like black tea, like those like tea leaves. Yeah, so
I would imagine like rubios and those.

Speaker 1 (02:33):
Others like a peppermant or something like that.

Speaker 2 (02:36):
Yeah, those might be okay. I honestly don't know. I
do know that, like, for a while I was really
good about avoiding those foods and I was eating other
types of foods, and then my nephrologist told me that
my potassium levels were too high and gave me a
list of foods I needed to avoid that were high
in potassium. And the unfortunate thing is that the list

(03:00):
of one doctor and the list of the other doctor
has like no overlap. Instead, it's just a list that's
twice as long of foods I'm not supposed to have.
And for a while I got really sad about it.

Speaker 1 (03:14):
Yeah, yeah, it might be worth linking into about the
other kind of teas because I know sometimes yeah, just
having a hot beverage helps. You can also do I guess,
do hot water with some lemon and honey. Maybe.

Speaker 2 (03:25):
Yeah. Yeah, water with lemon is one of the things
that one of my doctors has asked me to drink
more of. So that's what that's typically why I do now,
as I put in a squeeze of lemon juice before
I I bottle up an enormous amount of water. I
actually have a gallon sized water jug. I mean it's

(03:47):
a it's a bottle, but it's a gallon sized bottle,
and I put in quite a bit of lemon juice
in that because it is a gallon. And if I
drink one of those in a day, I better not
have anything planned for the second half of a day
because it's just gonna be uh me walking back and
forth between the bathroom.

Speaker 1 (04:06):
I understand that. I understand that. So my like, I
have a cardiologist, right because I have trigemony, and he
has also suggested not to have more than a cup
of coffee a day. But I was smart. If you
have two or three cups of decalf it's like the
same amount as one regular cup of coffee, So.

Speaker 2 (04:25):
So you just divide the caffeine up into like three
three servings. Yeah, gotcha.

Speaker 1 (04:32):
Yeah, I still drink high tests sometimes, but like, if
I know I'm gonna have a soda too, then so.

Speaker 2 (04:38):
Welcome to Welcome to Ariel and Jonathan's Medical Corner, where
we discuss our various medical issues.

Speaker 1 (04:46):
Yeah, trigemeny is really cool. Well, it's not really cool.
It's not really horrible either. It's just every so often
you get an extra heartbeat. It's just interesting. It fools
fools a lot of like heart rate monitors and stuff.

Speaker 2 (04:59):
So yeah, whereas I just I have high blood pressure,
and there were lots of potential contributing factors and to
this day, not entirely sure what caused the insane spike
in my blood pressure, but it was probably a combination
of different factors. So stuff like you know, stress, diet,

(05:20):
lack of exercise, plus a kidney stone that I had
a pretty massive one which I had to have surgically
removed earlier this year. All of those things, I think
we're contributing factors. So it's not one of those things
where you can just point at one cause and say, oh,
just don't do that and you'll be okay.

Speaker 1 (05:39):
Yeah, but hopefully you'll find you'll you'll figure it out
and get back to normal.

Speaker 2 (05:44):
Well what passes for normal. Yeah, it is me. We're
talking about that.

Speaker 1 (05:50):
That's the best any of us can do. Also, I'm
a little bit regretting, Like I don't mind talking about
medical stuff. You know, it's important if it helps somebody
else the journey that you're going through. If it helped
somebody else, it's worth sharing. Right. I don't know if
it'll help any of our listeners, but I do regret
it because our first thirty seconds or less stories very sad.
But then I just remembered that we talked about what

(06:11):
we watched first, So never mind.

Speaker 2 (06:13):
Yeah, yeah, So instead we're going to be talking about
about the things what we have seen since the last
time we recorded one thing each of us saw individually,
we didn't see it together. We both saw the same thing,
which was Beetle Juice. Beetle Juice. Yes, we saw the
sequel to the Beetel Juice. And so why did you think, Ariel?

Speaker 1 (06:39):
So I I was unimpressed. It wasn't a bad movie.
Like I actually watched the first Beetlejuice like a couple
of nights before in preparation, even though I knew that
Burton pretty much said that he didn't really review the original.

(07:00):
Going into the second one, I was like, I want
to and so like the first one is also not
like it's a lot of fun, but it's not like
a brilliant piece of cinema. It meanders, it's slow at times.

Speaker 2 (07:12):
Beatle juices in it for like fifteen minutes.

Speaker 1 (07:14):
Yeah, I So I saw reviews and some of the
reviews were like, this is so much fun, It's so
good it's doing so well, and I saw Friend and
reviews were like, it's a lot of fun, but it's
not you know, great cinema. It's just a lot of
fun and it has flaws. So I went in expecting
a like a good but not great movie, and I

(07:36):
should have set my bar a little lower because it
was an okay movie. The beginning was way too slow.
I felt like the first third to first half was
far too slow, and then once they got to the
underworld mad Caps, it was a lot more fun. I
agree with many people that like there kind of wasn't

(07:57):
time for any particular plot line to play out, so
everything everything did resolve, but very quickly. And I don't
I don't mind that because it gave it a more beatle, juicy,
phrenetic energy that it was missing in the first half.

Speaker 2 (08:12):
But well, yeah, I think part of the problem is that,
like in the first film, we had the Maitlands, you know,
Alec Baldwin and Gena Davis's characters, and so we were
we were experiencing what it means to be dead within
the world of Beatle, just for the first time. So
there's a lot of discovery there, right, Like, oh, how interesting,

(08:33):
how weird, how quirky, but we've already done all that
with the first movie. You can't you can't have the
joy of discovery twice. You've already discovered it, so that
part is gone. It also meant that the characters that
we were really invested in in the first film, they're
not there anymore. They're gone, and they're they're departure, I mean,

(08:54):
which makes sense, Like everyone's aged, So how do you
how do you have a film that has characters who
are ghosts, and the ghosts of clearly aged, unless it's Beetlejuice,
who even though you could tell he's aged a lot
through that makeup, it's okay because these Beetlejuice, so they
don't have the maitlands there and they're just sort of

(09:16):
explained away but in their absence, Like Jenna Ortega's character
is kind of who we're meant to be invested in
and follow but her, and she's playing, you know, kind
of a skeptic. She's the daughter of Lydia Deets, but
she doesn't herself believe in ghosts, and it takes a

(09:37):
long time before she gets to the point where she
does believe in ghosts, which I think is what part
of what makes the story drag. And as you pointed out, Ariel,
there's like four plot lines going through this movie, and
only a couple of them get fleshed out. The one
that I was most excited about, which was the bride

(09:58):
of Beetlejuice returning and wanting to seek him out. She's
barely in the movie and plays like she doesn't impact
the story much at all, apart from driving a bunch
of other tertiary characters who don't have a lot of
impact on the main story. So it almost feels like

(10:20):
that should have been its own movie, this Bride of
Beetlejuice wanting to track Beetlejuice down and make that the
full focus.

Speaker 1 (10:28):
Yeah. But at the same time, that plotline had a
backstory for Beetlejuice that I'm not going to share with
our listeners in case I haven't watched it. And I
also felt like while they delivered it in a fun way,
it was unnecessary. I did not I prefer not knowing
Beetlejuice's backstory.

Speaker 2 (10:44):
Yeah. Yeah, I go back and forth on it, because,
like you said, they did find a fun way to
present it. That is one of the things I thought
was kind of cool about this movie is that in
at least two sections I think just too they tell
flashbacks by using a different kind of film format than

(11:04):
from the rest of the film, and it's two different ones.
It's not the same film format, and it makes me
wish that they had done that more. I would have
actually liked, like maybe there's another sequence where it was
told through puppetry or something like that would have been
a lot of fun. But the way I described it was,
I felt that the gags in this movie we were

(11:27):
pretty good that those were what really worked for me
in the film, the gags, whereas the story of the
characters kind of left something to be desired.

Speaker 1 (11:38):
I feel like the gags only a few of them
hit for me. They hit real well for the people
sitting behind me, which is great.

Speaker 2 (11:45):
And some of the gags were repeats from the original Beetlejuice.
Those did not work for me, right, Like the whole
thing where he scares people by having stuff explode out
of his face. I was like, yeah, this is the
exact same joke from the first film. Or the gag
about sealing someone's mouth shut when they're trying to say
his name. That again, same sort of gag. So there

(12:08):
were a couple of those that I found very It
made me think of Mike Myers doing the Austin Powers
movies where he just uses the same jokes, like, oh,
here's the part where they do the joke about silhouettes,
or the joke that's all double entendres. It's just strung together.
Like it's kind of felt like that, and I hate

(12:29):
that sort of thing. But the other gags, like not
to give anything away, the train station, I actually really liked.
I didn't understand why they chose what they chose, but
I did like the presentation of it.

Speaker 1 (12:42):
I did too, although I did have a couple of
friends who are who are people of color who maybe
didn't appreciate it quite as much.

Speaker 2 (12:53):
Got it, Yeah that makes sense, Like, yeah, I think
I like, I think I liked it for the style
and the presentation, but yeah, from the from the choice
of it, it definitely raises questions.

Speaker 1 (13:08):
Yeah, so no, Like, I agree. I I watched that
scene and I'm like, well, geez, I kind of hope
that does happen if I die, because what a great
way to go. Yeah, But at the same time, Burton
has Tim Burton has historically not had as diverse casting
as people would like.

Speaker 2 (13:26):
Yes, he has been He has been accused of of
making films that almost exclusively consist of white people for
the cast, and has has made some comments about that
that give me bad feelings.

Speaker 1 (13:44):
Yeah yeah, and like this movie was better, but some
of the some of the more diverse casting was in
very stereotypical roles, which that means I don't know if
it is better, but uh, yeah it was, it was, Okay.
I didn't know until researching the movie that Monica Belushi
was married to Tim Burton.

Speaker 2 (14:05):
Oh I didn't know that either.

Speaker 1 (14:06):
I mean, yeah, the person who played Beetlejuices.

Speaker 2 (14:08):
Because before that, before it was him and Helena in
a bottom carter. Yeah yeah, okay, that there's not that
I'm saying. There's a pattern, but no.

Speaker 1 (14:20):
I get it. The other thing I'll say is circling
back to back to what you said about Jennet Wortega
kind of being a skeptic and taking a while to
be pulled in. That is a rule I learned during LARPing.
If you play a character who kind of nay says
the plot line, you're not going to have much fun.
And when I'm watching a movie about a character who
nay says the plot line, you got to be real

(14:41):
creative or I'm not going to have much fun.

Speaker 2 (14:44):
Well, and I get really tired of the trope of
skeptic character who is a skeptic in horror movie ultimately
proven wrong because it happens over and over and over again.
And I'm like, I get it for the purposes of
horror movies, but in the real world this is a
really harmful kind of way to approach things, like if

(15:04):
someone is being trying to be a critical thinker and
like other people like, that's where you get into like
denihalism and stuff that gets real ugly. But anyway, the
other thing I will say is that while I thought
Winona Ryter did a great job as Lydia, I didn't
feel like the Lydia and Beetle Juice. Beetle Juice felt

(15:25):
like the same character as the Lydia from the first film.

Speaker 1 (15:28):
I was about to say the same thing. She felt
more like Joyce from Stranger Things at the beginning, which
is which is not her fault. There is a point
and I actually tmi. I was at a din In
movie theater and I ate something that disagreed with me.
I had an allergen, so I missed parts of the
movie and I missed the part where they kind of

(15:50):
addressed that. So I thought that that maybe that was
me just missing some plot.

Speaker 2 (15:55):
But yeah, I don't. I don't think so. I think, Yeah,
there there was no moment in the film that I
felt adequately explained how she had gone from the character
we know in the first film to the world. I mean, obviously,
like a lot of time has passed, so people do change,
Like I am not the same person I was when

(16:17):
I was a kid, so I can't really be too
head up about this, but it just felt like like
it made me wonder, like, apart from her choice of fashion,
how she still the same character, because that seemed to
me the only thing that didn't change.

Speaker 1 (16:38):
Yeah, no, I think. I mean, like, there are things
that I can reason about it, and I would, except
for I don't want to ruin it. For people who
haven't seen the movie, Well.

Speaker 2 (16:46):
What else did you see besides the Beetlejuice Squared?

Speaker 1 (16:52):
After Midnight came back? So I watched an episode of that.
I finished season one and started season two of Kevin
kin f himself still delightful, and we finished my group
watch finished Scavenger's Rain, which the group consensus was, well,

(17:12):
that show. That was a show. So it's it's slow,
which is fine. The world building is very cool, but
I feel like it. So Scavenger's Reign is a story
about these people who are in a spaceship going on
this long journey. There are people in like cryo and
all that, and one of them makes a bad decision

(17:34):
and basically harms the ship and everybody gets put into
cryo sleep except for some people who go down, who
are sent to Earth to try to get things set
up so they can rescue everyone, and that does that
doesn't go well for some of them, and it goes
better for some than others. But it's this very very

(17:56):
alien planet and they're all just trying to survive and
they're trying to bring i think the name of the
ship is the Demeter down and get everybody out of cryostasis,
and they're fighting all of these world things like aliens
and creatures and plants that are all very dangerous and
do things that they don't understand. And the first couple
of episodes, those creatures and plants were so well designed

(18:19):
that I was like, I have never seen anything like
this before. By the end, I'm like, that's just a
modified sloth. That's a modified creature from the time machine.
That's that's that's a bird, that's like an em you
so so like, I feel like the creature design got

(18:43):
a little more familiar, and maybe that was on purpose
to make me feel like I was getting more acquainted
with this planet. But yeah, and then the end had
like an end scene that was just so bizarre. I
have no idea what it was, and it was meant
to set up season two, but we don't know if
we're getting a season two. So it was a lot
and got very scary despite being a cartoon. And there

(19:03):
is one character who's an antagonist that we ended up
calling Uncle. It's a long title. It is a long,
long title. But he was like a weird alien who
kind of messed with people's brains, and so I called

(19:24):
him the bad touch Alien, not knowing what he was
yet because he's messing with people's memories and things. And
by the end of it, it was honorable Judge, We're
Admiral Comptroller doctor Uncle Touchy Senpi first of his name.

Speaker 2 (19:39):
Yeah, this tells me a lot about your friends.

Speaker 1 (19:41):
It was bad. It was bad. I'm so sorry. I
know that that's horrible.

Speaker 2 (19:45):
But well, I'm just saying no, I'm saying more like,
like that's the level of sort of goofy in jokeness
that I used to engage in. But now I feel
like I've transitioned into grouchy old man territory where I
just I just hear about that. I just go, yeah,
it's a thing, yeah.

Speaker 1 (20:06):
And like it's it's maybe a little I will admit
a little bit in poor taste, but it was a
very creepy alien. That being said, we watched it. It
was interesting, it was scary. I feel like that kind
of thing. What did you watch?

Speaker 2 (20:20):
I finally watched The Martian, the film that's adapted after
the Andy Weir novel The Martian, the one that with
Matt Damon, and it came out like twenty fifteen that.

Speaker 1 (20:31):
I've watched like twenty times, and I can't believe you haven't.
Hadn't watched it before.

Speaker 2 (20:35):
It wasn't on like a streaming service for the longest time,
but now it's on Max. So I watched it. I
had read the novel, so I didn't feel the need
to have watched a film, I already experienced the story
through the superior medium of the written word, so fair. Yeah.
So I had read the book and now I was

(20:56):
finally watching the movie. Now, granted, I read the book
when it first came out, so it's been more than
a decade since I read the book. But I enjoyed
the film. And also it's one of those movies where
it's been clipped so many times and those clips have
been like uploaded to YouTube that I felt by the
end of it, I was like I might have gotten

(21:17):
about twelve minutes of footage that I had not seen,
just you know, in bits and snippets throughout the years
on YouTube because I would always click through to watch.
I was like, oh, I want to see how this
scene plays out in the film. And by so I'm
watching this and I'm like, yep, I've seen this bit. Yep,
seen this bit. So there's only a little bit that

(21:37):
I had not seen, but still found it enjoyable. It's
very entertaining.

Speaker 1 (21:42):
I thought it was very well cast.

Speaker 2 (21:44):
Well cast, slightly less realistic than the novel, but even
the novel has to take some liberties. For example, the
atmosphere on Mars is so thin that I don't think
even major storm would be enough to like push you

(22:05):
over right like you wouldn't because the atmosphere is then
it's not thick enough to do that. It's strong enough
to hold dust, so you would have dust completely blocking
your vision. Also, the gravity on Mars is like a

(22:25):
third of what it is on Earth. So seeing him
strained to pick stuff up, I'm like, well, I guess
maybe you could have a lot of muscle atrophy in
the nine months it would take you to get to Mars.
But he looks pretty buff, and I'm sitting there thinking like, no,

(22:49):
you'd be able to lift that no problem, because it
weighs a third of what it would on the planet Earth.

Speaker 1 (22:53):
You misunderstood. You thought he was struggling to lift things up.
He was struggling for them not to fly away.

Speaker 2 (23:00):
Ah, sure, yeah, that's what it was. So anyway, anyway, obviously,
like they're shooting on Earth, they're going to have I mean,
they're obviously going to have the limitations of the planet.
I should not expect anything else. But it just was
one of those things that would pull me out because
knowing about Mars, it starts to you know, you start

(23:20):
to say, like, well, that really shouldn't be an issue,
whereas other things absolutely enormous issues. It did make me
wonder who would design a Martian mission that would only
last thirty or so Martian days, Because in order to

(23:41):
make the journey between Earth and Mars, you have to
wait until the planets are getting ready to line up
where they're on the same side of the Sun, so
they're the closest they're going to be, So that means
you have the least amount of space you have to travel,
and that means the least amount of fuel you need
in order to make the journey by the time you
get to the planet, like and this is planning everything

(24:02):
out way in advance, because you know, obviously you can't
leave when the plants are aligned, because as you're traveling,
the plants are going to move out of alignment and
get further and further apart. So it's kind of like
planning where Mars is going to be. But by the
time you land there, then the Earth and Mars are
no longer lined up, so that you can make the

(24:22):
return trip home easily. So the general belief is that
if we were to send people to Mars, they would
need to stay there for like two years so that
the planets would be lining up again properly in order
to make the journey back home and not require more

(24:43):
fuel than you could possibly take with you. So again,
like I'm watching this, but that was the problem with
the book too.

Speaker 1 (24:51):
Is Mars Day is a Mars day as long as
an Earth day.

Speaker 2 (24:53):
Though Mars Day, I think it's actually a little longer.
But even so, it's not two years long.

Speaker 1 (25:01):
Because like I mean, you think, like conceptually you'd be like, Okay,
we don't want to stay more than thirty days because
we don't have We don't want to cause more stress
to our bodies from being on the Martian landscape than.

Speaker 2 (25:12):
That, you know, sure, absolutely, yeah, yeah, because I mean also,
Mars lacks the protection of Earth's atmosphere and magnetosphere, Like
it does have a magnetosphere, but it's very weak. It
has very very thin atmosphere, so you don't have much
protection from things like solar radiation and.

Speaker 1 (25:30):
So, which is a part of the story.

Speaker 2 (25:32):
So yeah, so you don't want to be out there
for too long without being able to protect yourself. Anyway.
That's me ranting about space in a movie that ultimately
was very entertaining and I very much enjoyed it. So
that's just the way my brain works is if I
watch something where I know about the topic, that's constantly

(25:54):
going to be going through the back of my head
even while I'm enjoying the film.

Speaker 1 (25:58):
You're just tooting, dang, smart John.

Speaker 2 (26:00):
Only about certain things.

Speaker 1 (26:03):
But that's a lot of certain things. You're smart about
a lot of certain things.

Speaker 2 (26:07):
Well, thank you. Something I am smart about is how
long thirty seconds is. But what I'm bad about is
keeping keeping news items to thirty seconds. But now it's
time to transition to our thirty seconds or less.

Speaker 1 (26:21):
What a nice segue, And we're going to start with
the news that everybody knows. But we would be remissed
not to mention, which is that James Earl Jones passed away.
He was ninety three, which is, you know, a nice
long run. It still feels way too soon, because in
my mind he is not ninety three. He played such
iconic roles as Mufasa, the voice of Mufasa, and the

(26:46):
voice of Darth Vader, and the Dad in Coming to
America and so many many other things, and he will
be missed.

Speaker 2 (26:56):
Yeah, I'll always think of him as the weird priest
carecharacter and the Exorcist too. No, I'll think of him
as Darth Vader. Of course, I'll think of him as
Darth Vader. Well. Some other serious and sad news. As
we have mentioned in previous episodes of Large Nurgron Collider,
author Neil Gaiman is at the center of several allegations
regarding sexual harassment and assault, and it should come as

(27:19):
no surprise that some of the projects based on his
work have now been put on hold or canceled. That
includes the Disney Plus adaptation of the young adult novel
The Graveyard Book, as well as Amazon's third season of
Good Omens, which is based off a book that Neil
Gaiman wrote with Terry Pratchett.

Speaker 1 (27:37):
Breaking news on that last thirty seconds or less, Neil
Gaman has made an offer to Amazon two step away
from Good Omens season three, which is in pre production
or was in pre production, so that they can continue
getting it done without his health, so that the fans
and the show and the actors still en stuffer from

(27:58):
his allegations.

Speaker 2 (27:59):
Yeah, yeah, which, you know, that's a big move on
his part. I think it's probably the only way that
project could potentially move forward given what the allegations are.

Speaker 1 (28:12):
But they're considering it. They're considering it, but no final
decisions have been made.

Speaker 2 (28:19):
So maybe by the time this goes out, depending on
when I'm finished editing it, we'll know. But in the meantime,
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in The Thomas Crown Affair about a wealthy man who
also happens to be a bank robber and the investigator
who gets let's say, romantically entangled with him. The film
was remade in nineteen ninety nine with Pierce Brosnan and

(28:41):
Renee Russo, and now it's slated to get remade again.
So who is stepping into the very expensive shoes as
the thief this time? That would be Michael B. Jordan.
He will direct and star in the film for Amazon
MGM Studios.

Speaker 1 (28:57):
Nice. Next, we have news that we may in fact
be getting a fourth Spider Man movie. Sony wasn't certain,
but they were considering it. Because now they are talking
to depending on the report, either have already gotten him
or are in talks with Dustin Daniel Cretton to direct

(29:19):
the next movie. No word also whether or not it
will have Tom Holland. But my guest will be yes.
If that name sounds familiar, it's because he was the
director for shang Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings,
which was a fantastic movie.

Speaker 2 (29:36):
Yeah, really underrated MCU film. I think that was one
of the ones that because it came out around the
same time as like things like The Eternals, which you
know was not so good, but shang Chi was a
lot of fun. Yeah. Well, Josh Brolin has been Thanos
in the Avengers films. He was Cable in Deadpool two.
He was Jonah Hex in Jonah Hex. But one comic

(29:59):
book character he will not be bringing to life on
screen is how Jordan, aka one of the Green Lanterns.
The Hollywood Reporter says Brolin was offered the role, but
he passed on it to be in Lanterns, a series
about the Green lantern Core. No word on what guided
his choice, but I'm sure it wasn't exactly a snap decision.

(30:20):
Good because he was Thanos. Snap decision.

Speaker 1 (30:22):
Yeah, we all get it, okay.

Speaker 2 (30:25):
Good.

Speaker 1 (30:26):
So in twenty twenty three, we learned that we were
getting new Lord of the Rings movies from Peter Jackson.
Now we know that one of those, maybe the first one,
will be The Hunt for Gollum, coming out as early
as twenty twenty six, and we know because Ian McKellen
might be returning his Gandalf. He said that he expects

(30:46):
to see descript in twenty twenty five and decide whether
he wants to be a part of the movie at
that time. But he also said, in the long line
of directors to need people to edit them down, that
it might be The Hunt for Gollum might be two movies.

Speaker 2 (31:03):
You all, it does not need to be two movies long.
The Hobbit did not need to be three movies long.

Speaker 1 (31:08):
But that makes sense. I really loved the original trilogy,
so I'm not like dissing Peter Jackson because the original
trilogy was fantastic.

Speaker 2 (31:15):
But well, yeah, the first one was my favorite, and
then I liked the second one a little less, and
I liked the third one a little less than the
second one, But I liked all of them. I just
loved the first film and the other ones anyway, last
one for me here. Eight years ago, Rogue one came
out in theaters. The film included a digital replica of

(31:35):
actor Peter Cushing, who played grand Moth Tarkin in A
New Hope who passed away in nineteen ninety four. Lucasfilm
had cleared Cushing's digital appearance with his state, but one
of Cushing's old friends, Kevin Francis, claims that Cushing granted
Francis those rights and Francis didn't give Lucasfilm permission. The
matter is now headed to court and may impact how

(31:57):
AI can be used in future films.

Speaker 1 (32:01):
Very interesting, I have a question for you.

Speaker 2 (32:07):
Ask me your question.

Speaker 1 (32:09):
Uh, this, I haven't prepared you for this, but it
was something that came up at the end of Scavenger's
Reign and I meant to mention it during what we
had been watching. Uh, if if you were caught in
a creepy alien situation, who would you want by your
side to protect you from the aliens?

Speaker 2 (32:23):
Mmm? Who would I want by my side to protect me?
I'm gonna say Dave Bautista.

Speaker 1 (32:36):
Nice. Nice. They my friends when they posited this question,
originally said who's the best at killing aliens? And I'm like, well,
that's not the greatest.

Speaker 2 (32:46):
Yeah, yeah, we all know the answer to that question.

Speaker 1 (32:48):
Well exception exception of like I might slightly disagree. I
think Thanos is better at it.

Speaker 2 (32:53):
Yeah, he's indiscriminate. He's going to kill half your friends too.

Speaker 1 (32:58):
Yeah. Yeah, anyhow, it was just it was just a question.
I think Dave Patista is a very good answer.

Speaker 2 (33:02):
My coin flip, coin flip, chance of getting out yourself.

Speaker 1 (33:07):
My my, my cool answer is readA VERTASKI from Edge
of Tomorrow.

Speaker 2 (33:14):
So oh, so you were naming a character as opposed.

Speaker 1 (33:17):
To or Emily Blunt. I'd also take Emily Blunt.

Speaker 2 (33:22):
Yeah, I mean having Mary Poppins on your side, even
if it's not the original one. Not a bad choice, No,
not at all, not at all.

Speaker 1 (33:31):
Okay, Well, now.

Speaker 2 (33:33):
It's time for us to talk about a crap ton
of movie trailers.

Speaker 1 (33:39):
Yeah yeah, let's see if I can remember which ones
are which.

Speaker 2 (33:43):
Okay, Well, Ariel, first of all, can you tell me
what is the franchise about?

Speaker 1 (33:49):
Yes, so, during the pandemic, Netflix came out with a
movie called The Bubble about people trying to make No,
actually has nothing to do with it.

Speaker 2 (33:59):
It did remind me of that.

Speaker 1 (34:01):
Yeah, yeah, that's us. Yeah, so I'll work back to that.
The franchise is an HBO show about people making a
making a superhero movie and it looks like it's a
bad movie, and just all of the turmoil of on
set and personal turmoil of all of it. And yeah,
when I watched the trailer, it reminded me of the
Netflix b movie The Bubble, in which everybody goes to

(34:22):
make like a Jurassic Park type movie during the pandemic
and nobody's allowed to leave until the end of the
movie and mad capness ensues. So yeah, but now HBO's
behind it, so it looks slightly higher quality.

Speaker 2 (34:39):
It also made me think a little bit of Tropic Thunder.
In that Tropic Thunder you have, you know, like Tom
Cruise's character Les Grossman, who is a producer who comes
in to interfere with the whole film production because he

(34:59):
things are going over budget and taking too much time
and he doesn't have the patience for that. And even
though the character is a supporting character, he plays a
really big part of the story of Tropic Thunder. As
I was watching this, I was like, oh, yeah, here's
the producer character who's like, I'm not going to pay
for this if you guys don't get your act together.
That kind of that's the kind of vibe I was getting.

(35:20):
And meanwhile, you have all your other kind of stereotypical
Hollywood comedy stuff when Hollywood makes a comedy about the
film industry, so that includes things like insecure actors, a
director who's just trying to get something made, you know,
while also going through his own personal issues at home,

(35:44):
that kind of stuff. So it looks it looks like
it's it's gonna be entertaining. Honestly, I watched the trailer
again before we started recording, and while I was watching it,
I was like, I recognize all these things being set
up as comedy, like it's set up as a joke,
but none of this is making me laugh. I am

(36:07):
finding it entertaining.

Speaker 1 (36:10):
Yeah, yeah, which is honestly, when I say about a
lot of HBO stuff, I'm like, that's entertaining. It wasn't
like laugh out loud, but it was entertaining. The cast.
The cast for it. They have some big names in it,
Billy magnuson lay Out of Faux Pay. I don't know
how to pronounce her last name, but she was in LOVECFT,
Lovecraft Country and Scavenger's Reign, and also Loki and Deadpool three.

(36:35):
Richard E. Grant and Daniel Brule and yeah, so.

Speaker 2 (36:39):
Yeah, I love Richard D. Grant. He can be a
really fun character actor. I love watching him and stuff. Uh.
Next up, we got a teaser for wolf Man, So
another revisit of a classic universal horror movie, Monster and

(37:00):
and it it really centers on the uh presumed like
Canthrop's struggles of going through this change while also having
a family and not wanting to give the family up
but also wanting to protect the family. So it looks intense.

Speaker 1 (37:19):
It does. It looks very scary, which I understand is
needed if you're rebooting the classic Monsters, they need to
sit up to today's standards. But you know, that makes
it harder for me to watch. Part of the thing
I liked about the Originals is that it was It
was scary and it was suspenseful, but it was still palatable.
I honestly like it looked It looked good, but it

(37:43):
didn't look quite as intriguing to me as There was
another movie trailer we watched in like the last couple
of months that had a similar storyline like is this
dad really.

Speaker 2 (37:53):
Really oh right right right? Like or possessed or something? Yeah,
I remember, I don't remember remember what that movie was,
But I do remember the trailer.

Speaker 1 (38:02):
Yeah yeah, and that one seemed a little bit more
interesting to me than this one. This one seems pretty
cut and dry and like it may not fall too
far from the original concept.

Speaker 2 (38:12):
So yeah, I will say that out of all the
attempts to bring the Universal Monsters back to screen over
the last decade and a half or however long it's been,
this one looked the most interesting to me. I Now,
to be fair, I didn't watch a lot of those

(38:34):
movies because I just never got to the point where
those trailers interested me enough to actually take the plunge
and watch the film. So like, I haven't seen Benicio
del Toro's wolf Man movie, right, I haven't seen that one,
And but that's because I just didn't feel like intrigued,
Whereas this one I felt was a little bit more

(38:55):
effective for me personally. I'm not saying it's going to
be a better movie, but it just it it held
my attention better than the other more recent attempts to
bring Universal back, you know, in the Monster Realm.

Speaker 1 (39:07):
I agree. I'm I'm excited to see what they do
with Creature from the Black Lagoon. I'm still on the
fence on whether I'm gonna see Nosfaratu this Christmas. I
think I'll have to see a couple more trailers and
maybe read a spoiler review first.

Speaker 2 (39:20):
Yeah. Yeah, I don't have a good read on whether
Nosferato is going to be a good film yet. So
for me, it's more of a concern about does the
movie work as a movie. I'm not too concerned about
the scariness part.

Speaker 1 (39:37):
I think I think it'll work as a movie. I
worry about it being too gross or depraved for gross
and depraved sake, which sometimes can hurt a story. But
that is not the case with the next trailer we're
going to talk about Aaron Kopovich.

Speaker 2 (40:00):
Yeah, I like to call this next one sweet d
Solves crimes.

Speaker 1 (40:05):
Yes, except for it looks a lot more heartfelt. So
there's a series coming out called High Potential about this
woman who's got like three kids and she's a single mom,
and she's a janitor and she goes around and she
messes with the cops like evidence boards at.

Speaker 2 (40:20):
Night because she works as a genitor at the police precinct.

Speaker 1 (40:24):
Yeah, and she's she's got good like insight and I
for detail, and she's like now you got this wrong.
So she'll just write notes and like mess with their
evidence to be like, you got this wrong. So it's
kind of got like a like a castle kind of
a vibe to it too. But it started off looking
funny and it ended up feeling very heartfelt by the

(40:46):
end of the trailer.

Speaker 2 (40:47):
Yeah. Uh, I mean part of it is that it
does have actors that you might more associate with comedies, right, like, oh,
that's the actress from Scrubs.

Speaker 1 (41:01):
Carla, she played Carlo the nurse.

Speaker 2 (41:03):
Yet right, Oh that's the actress from It's Always Sunny
in Philadelphia. And yeah, there are a lot of folks
in there who have had work in like sitcoms and
other types of comedies, and now they're in kind of
a procedural. And the main character is sort of a
Sherlock style character in that she's just hyper observant and

(41:25):
very good at drawing connections between things. I thought the
trailer looked kind of fun. I mean, I don't fall
into a lot of these kinds of series, but this
was one where I was like, Okay, this feels like
it could be another fun twist on the extremely gifted

(41:45):
detective genre of things like Sherlock and House and Monk
and that sort of stuff.

Speaker 1 (41:53):
Yeah, I don't often fall into those, but I do
have ones. I like, like I watched Castle, I watched Bones,
you know. So surprisingly enough, the creator of High Potential
was also the writer for Cabin in the Woods and

(42:16):
the producer for Bad Times at the l Royal and
Lost and The Martian, so that's also some and the
executive producer for The Good Place. So that's some possibly
positive light on it.

Speaker 2 (42:30):
Next up, we've got a trailer for an animated series
on Netflix called Leviathan. This is an adaptation of a
young adult novel series that is kind of a magical
alternate history version of the events leading up to an
including World War One, but imagine that World War one.

(42:53):
Instead of it being the Axis and Allies type of stuff,
well that's World War two, but you know, instead of
it being at those two camps, it's one group. Their
whole warring approach is to use enormous machines, like steampunk
type machines, and the other group they genetically create animals

(43:16):
that end up being their like warfaring equipment and vehicles
and such. So you've got like this enormous airship. That's
built around a flying whale, for example, and yeah, a
lot of elements of science fiction and fantasy. I am
unfamiliar with the book series. But the trailer, which didn't

(43:38):
have any dialogue in it, it was just set to
a song. It was it looked really like the art
style looked super neat, and the ideas looked really kind
of interesting.

Speaker 1 (43:52):
It's very pretty, And when I first watched it, I
wasn't sure if it was going to be a problematic
story or not. I'm going to be real honest, and
I had to look into it a little bit more.
But it also does focus on this girl who who
dresses up as a boy to go join the army,
so kind of Twelfth nightish a little bit.

Speaker 2 (44:11):
Yeah. Yeah. The one downside of this particular, I would
call it more of a teaser than a trailer, even
though the series is coming out like in less than
a month. One downside I would say is that with
the lack of dialogue, you really don't get an idea
of what the story is. You just kind of get
to see a bunch of different little sequences from you know,

(44:36):
from what unfolds that give you an idea of the esthetic.

Speaker 1 (44:41):
Yeah, I will say. I thought it was very pretty.
They show like a jellyfish type creature at one point,
and I went down a giant rabbit hole because I'm like,
why is this jellyfish? So Georgia O'Keefe, but I never
found an answer. Yeah, but now my search is all
messed up.

Speaker 2 (44:58):
Yeah no, that's Heaven help you when you go on
TikTok now. But uh yeah, it's essentially standing in for
a parachute, like it's a it's wild. But yeah, that
that one actually looks and it made me honestly curious
about the book series. Yeah, same, same because at first

(45:19):
I was like, oh, well, this is an anime. I
wonder if it's based off anything, and the novel was
not written by a Japanese author. It's it's a Western novel,
but it's a you know, a Japanese style or at
least an I don't know if it's all of Japan,
but it does like an anime style adaptation of that story.

Speaker 1 (45:37):
Yeah, it looks vaguely like me as Zaki, very vaguely
the Glassblower style that he was an Iranian movie that
came out recently.

Speaker 2 (45:47):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I remember that one too, where it
was also kind of a magical realism story, as I recall.

Speaker 1 (45:55):
Yeah, now I don't want to make sure I don't
remember anyhow, it was a very pretty movie. I might
have gotten the country wrong, and if I did, I'm
very very sorry. Get it right.

Speaker 2 (46:04):
I think it was Iran.

Speaker 1 (46:05):
I think you're right, Okay, the it's just important because
it was like the first of that kind of movie
to that, Yes, I remember that. We know about next.
We've got a trailer for Citadel, Diana. It's an Italian companion.
I'm reading. I'm just reading Jonathan's notes off of our
notes page to Citadel. The Citadel series on Amazon, which

(46:26):
I did not watch but I heard was not great.

Speaker 2 (46:29):
Yeah, this was the one that was produced by the
Russo brothers. It's kind of like their big thing that
they were doing after they were done with the Avengers films.
So if you're unfamiliar with Citadel, you could be forgiven
because if you're like you know Ariel or myself, you
haven't watched It's it's like a spy series. And the

(46:53):
original Citadel series on Amazon it was directed by someone else,
like the Russo's didn't direct that they were producing, but
the plan from the beginning was to have a bunch
of different companion series, each set in different parts of
the world, produced in those parts of the world, directed
by people from those parts of the world, starring people

(47:15):
from those parts of the world, shot in their regional language,
and then launched. So Citadel Diana is the first of those,
and it's as Ariel said, said in Italy, others will
I think the next one is in India. But the
Citadel Prime series, which is in English, is also coming

(47:37):
back for another season. And from what I understand, Russo,
one of the Russo brothers, don't know which one one
of them will be directing those. So I also remember
hearing like kind of just sort of just lackluster response
to Citadel. Maybe this is a real hard push to

(47:59):
try and get this massive plan back on track, because
it sounds to me like Amazon sunk a huge amount
of capital into making this happen, and if it all
just fizzles out, it will just be an enormous write off.

Speaker 1 (48:14):
Yeah, yeah, next we have.

Speaker 2 (48:21):
I like that to have nothing else to add. I mean,
it's a spy it's a spy series.

Speaker 1 (48:24):
It's a spy thing. There's some weird tech. I'm gonna
be honest, I was. I was hitting a very sleepy
point when I watched that trailer, so that one didn't
stick as much with me. Next we're going to talk
about It's What's Inside, which is like Game Night meets
Freaky Friday.

Speaker 2 (48:44):
Yeah. It also was making me think of other recent
horror movies that have come out, like the one where
they had the Demonic Hand or Tarot or you know,
where it's a bunch of friends all coming together and
they experience something that's sort of paranormal, supernatural or in

(49:06):
this case, science fiction y, and then that's where the
rest of the story kind of unfolds from that moment.
So in this case, you've got a bunch of young adults,
including a one who just struck me as insanely obnoxious,
the one who's the game master one anyway, all gathered

(49:28):
together and they hook themselves up to a machine and
it's not entirely clear from the trailer what exactly happens,
but the implication I felt that was there was that
their brains all get swapped around so that they end
up inside the bodies of like everyone ends up in
someone else's body.

Speaker 1 (49:49):
Yeah. Yeah, And Sexy Time and evil time, and all
those times occur because what do you do when the
consequences aren't to your physical person right right?

Speaker 2 (50:01):
Like if you're like, oh, well, eventually, I'm going to
be returned to my body. In the meantime, like you know,
I can do all these things in this body that
isn't mine and raises lots of ethical questions and things
of that nature, and you get the feeling that at
least some of the people in this group of friends
are not the best people. Maybe they're not maybe they're

(50:22):
not the outright bad, but they make poor life decisions.

Speaker 1 (50:27):
Yeah, yeah, this movie is the concept is cool. The
trailer did not make me feel like I would appreciate
the execution. Though I don't think it looks bad. It
just doesn't look like it's necessarily for me.

Speaker 2 (50:40):
Yeah, I'm curious about it. I think the challenge for
me is that there needs to be at least one
or two characters that I really empathize with. If it's
a bunch of people that I just look at as
a bunch of jackasses, I am not going to enjoy it.
I need to be invested in at least a character,

(51:02):
and this trailer didn't do that. But largely that was
because it was kind of focusing on the guy who
somehow got access to this technology, and.

Speaker 1 (51:12):
He just is obviously not the hero.

Speaker 2 (51:14):
No, he just struck me as the biggest butt face ever.
I'm trying to use the right language knowing our demographic here,
but I would be using some colorful metaphors if ever
on a different show, for sure. However, the next one,
so this next movie is a French film. It's in French,

(51:37):
so it's subtitle or subtitled or dubbed I guess, depending
on the cut. But it's called Family Pack. It's actually
an adaptation of were Wolves of Miller's Hollow I believe
is the full name of the game, but it's were Wolf, right.
It's that card game where you're either a villager or
you're a were wolf, and every night the were wolves

(51:59):
kill a village and then the surviving villagers. Their job
is to suss out who's the werewolf and to eliminate
the were wolves turn by turn, which each turn is
a day and ends with night where the were wolves
get to do another kill. So the goal is to
identify and eliminate the were wolves before all the villagers
get killed. That's the game. So this film is based

(52:23):
off that, and it's kind of Jumanji but with were
wolf and in French.

Speaker 1 (52:29):
Yes and goofy is it looks very goofy and fun.
It doesn't look scary. No, I.

Speaker 2 (52:39):
Have to be honest. The gag at the end of
this trailer made me laugh out loud. I snort laughed
at the end of this trailer, and then I was like,
maybe that's just my own mean spirited sense of humor.
It's not that mean spirited. It's more I think it's
more Monty python ish.

Speaker 1 (52:58):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (52:59):
But then I show Becca because I was like, I
need a second opinion. I'm not going to tell her
what happens. I showed her the trailer. At the end
of it, she goes, ha, I.

Speaker 1 (53:08):
Also leaught pretty hard, not gonna lie.

Speaker 2 (53:11):
Yeah, yeah, I'm gonna watch this like me too. I
had not heard anything about it. But it's also fun
to watch, like Leon the professional being a kind of
a grandfather figure, which is wild blows my mind.

Speaker 1 (53:28):
Yeah, yeah, I'll watch it too. It's sometimes hard to
get my husband to watch movies with subtitles, just because again,
if you're reading, you have a hard time paying attention
to the movie, and it's not the way he prefers
to enjoy media. But he likes reading books. But then
you aren't having to I guess.

Speaker 2 (53:50):
Your attention isn't divided. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (53:53):
Yeah, so I don't know if I'll be watching this
one alone. But I you know, if you had told me, yeah,
we're making a movie based off the game where Wolf,
I'd be like, this is bad. This is as bad
as Battleship.

Speaker 2 (54:04):
But yeah, well, because well because it made me think
of were wolves within.

Speaker 1 (54:10):
I watch that one.

Speaker 2 (54:11):
So that was the one that was directed by It's
one of the guys who's always on make some noise.

Speaker 1 (54:17):
Oh, I did not watch Josh Rubin and I didn't
watch it.

Speaker 2 (54:20):
Yeah, it's with with Vaine trub as one of the
main characters, the actress who I think, for American audiences
was best known as being the best buy Yes, yeah,
Guillermo from What We Do in the Shadows and I uh,

(54:42):
I've so that's a movie. I don't know that I
can recommend the movie because I don't know that it's
good enough to recommend. But all the performances are fun.
It's just that the story is a little.

Speaker 1 (54:57):
A little.

Speaker 2 (55:00):
Uneven. Yeah, but Vain trumb doesn't. She like carries that film.

Speaker 1 (55:05):
She's she always does a great job. But I look
forward to seeing Family Pack. I'll watch that before I
watch were Wolves Within as much as I love watching
Josh Rubin do his work and the other actors. This
next trailer and we're gonna I'm gonna have We're gonna
have to speed up a little bit, Jonathan sure, this
next trailer. I definitely will not watch this movie. I

(55:28):
could barely get through the trailer. It hits on my X,
which is for a movie called Little Bites.

Speaker 2 (55:35):
Yeah. So if you want to know what the short
version of this film description is, I'm gonna read it
as it was written in IMDb. So quote. In a
desperate attempt to protect her ten year old daughter, a
young widow allows a nightmarish monster to slowly eat her alive.
End quote.

Speaker 1 (55:54):
Hate it, hate it, hate it.

Speaker 2 (55:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (55:56):
Like I conceptually, you know, the tagline on the trailer's
motherhood will consume you, And we talked about that last
week with the night Bitch trailer. So it's conceptually not
bad that I don't nope.

Speaker 2 (56:09):
Squick yeah, yeah, this is taking this is taking the
concept and really dialing the horror part up quite a bit. Yeah,
it's funny because funny, funny in the weird way. It's
funny because the title Little Bites doesn't communicate to you
how horrific the actual presentation is. But this trailer does

(56:31):
a good job at making this a horror film, like,
like your appropriate response is to be horrified by what
is going on, and that they take that seriously in
this trailer.

Speaker 1 (56:45):
Yeah. Yeah, accomplished, accomplished.

Speaker 2 (56:48):
Yeah, so this would be on my list of things
to see in Ariel's list of things she never needs
to think about ever.

Speaker 1 (56:56):
Again, that is absolutely true. We got a trailer for
Salem's Lot, which is a vampire story yet by Stephen
King that eventually bleeds into Dark Tower kind of vaguely.

Speaker 2 (57:10):
Yeah, Father Callahan shows up in the Dark Tower series. Yeah. Yeah,
so this was written in the nineteen seventies. Fun fact,
I'm actually listening to the audiobook version of Salem's Lot,
which I was doing before I even remembered that there
was a film version. So this movie was supposed to
come out back in twenty twenty two, it didn't, and

(57:30):
it has been kind of on the shelf since then.
And in fact was one of those projects where people
were wondering if Warner Brothers Discovery was just gonna acts
this the way they did with Matt Girl. And in fact,
it's not getting a theatrical release. It's going to Max
I think, at least not getting a theatrical release here
in the United States. I think in other parts of

(57:50):
the world it is, but not here in the US.
There's also all these rumors about whether the film works
or it doesn't work, any pro problems that came up,
you know, whether or not there were other reasons why
it wasn't released over the last two years. So I
don't know if there's any validity that I know. There
are plenty of YouTube channels that have been speculating wildly

(58:14):
without a shred of evidence when we were or another
I am. I'm curious about this movie because Salem's Lot
is one of those early Stephen King books that really
established him as a horror novelist. But I gotta say
the trailer just didn't really do much for me. I

(58:35):
didn't really like it that much, which is a shame
because as I'm listening to the book, I'm enjoying the book.

Speaker 1 (58:41):
Yeah, I have not read much Stephen King, and I've
watched very little as well. I've now watched, I think
the paramount version of The Stand I've watched the mini
series of it and the new recent remake and stand by.

Speaker 2 (58:56):
Me of course, Shawshank Redempson.

Speaker 1 (59:00):
I did watch shash Ank Redemption. I watched Green Mile,
and I don't know if Green Miles Stephen.

Speaker 2 (59:04):
King, Yes, it is Green Miles staking.

Speaker 1 (59:06):
And I did watch one and a half seasons of
Castle Rock, which I quite enjoyed. And I watched the
Dark Tower movie, so I guess I've watched more than
I thought. And Misery anyhow, Now you gotta watch.

Speaker 2 (59:16):
Now, you gotta watch The Langeliers because it's so bad.

Speaker 1 (59:20):
It is so I'm familiar with it.

Speaker 2 (59:24):
It's well it does. It does have a very unfortunate
person in that series, so you'd be forgiven for skipping.

Speaker 1 (59:31):
It the first time. There are many times that I
can get through a movie if that happens. Not always,
but many.

Speaker 2 (59:43):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (59:44):
The the first time I heard about Salem's Lot was
watching Castle Rock, because, of course, all of Stephen King's
stories collide in that television show from I guess more
than a few years back. Now, it's probably closer to
like five, but I wasn't super familiar with it. This
trailer doesn't incredibly grab me the storyline. It feels like

(01:00:08):
a ho hum vampire story. But my husband did share
like some of Father Callahan's journey both in Salem's Lot
and then crossed over into Dark Tower, and I absolutely
love that little plot line. I thought that was really cool.

Speaker 2 (01:00:25):
Yeah. Yeah, I remain curious about Salem's Lot. I mean,
since it's coming to Max and I'm a subscriber to Max,
I'll probably watch it, but I don't have particularly high
hopes for this film adaptation. I also get the feeling
like they so big spoiler for Salem's Lot, I guess,
but you know, we've already said it's a vampire story.

(01:00:48):
There are two main antagonists in the story. One of
them is the vampire and the other one is the
vampire's familiar, and the familiar is the one that has
way more interaction with most of the characters. The vampire
is kind of held back in reserve and is a factor,
but is not really that prevalent a character, so much

(01:01:12):
so that when I went to IMDb to look at
the list for Salem's lot. That character is not even
listed in the cast. The vampire, which is Kurt Barlow,
is his name, but he doesn't that character. No character
by that name showed up on the cast list, at
least as I was looking at IMDb, whereas his familiar

(01:01:32):
Straker was maybe.

Speaker 1 (01:01:35):
It's the same actor, much like how in Venom, Tom
Hardy is both Eddie Brock and Venom.

Speaker 2 (01:01:44):
Great segue, thank you, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:01:47):
So yeah. We've got the final trailer out for Venom,
the Last Dance, and this one made me a little
bit sad honestly. Like I liked the first Venom movie,
I haven't watched the second one, but it is a
delightful chemistry that Tom Hardy has with himself in the movie.

Speaker 2 (01:02:04):
Finally someone who can work well with Tom Hardy.

Speaker 1 (01:02:08):
And I think it's one of his better characters, quite honestly.
Like he's a good actor. I liked him in Fury Road,
but and I liked him fine as Baine despite all
the jokes. But I think he does a great job
in it, and it's it's very it's a very bittersweet
trailer because it alludes to the fact that Venom and
Eddie are gonna have to part ways, and then Eddie's

(01:02:28):
gonna die of cancer.

Speaker 2 (01:02:30):
Yes, Eddie, you and I will have to part ways.
Yeah that's Baine is vain Venom?

Speaker 1 (01:02:38):
I like it?

Speaker 2 (01:02:40):
Yeah, bainim Uh. I have no emotional investment in this
because I hadn't watched either of the first two films,
so I thought the trailer was fine. Like I thought
it looked like if you're if you're into the Venom movies,
this looks like another one. Uh, and not in the
bad way. Like, I don't mean to be dismissive, it's

(01:03:01):
just because I haven't watched the other two. I don't
feel drawn to watch this one. I feel like I
would just not understand what was going on.

Speaker 1 (01:03:08):
It's brilliant cinema compared to some of the other stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:03:11):
So sure, yes, right, but me like me looking at
a dead television is brilliant cinema compared to say, Morbius
or Madam Webb.

Speaker 1 (01:03:22):
You know I've said that I have not brought myself
to watch either.

Speaker 2 (01:03:26):
I tried, I tried, I couldn't like, and I watched
border Lands, but I.

Speaker 1 (01:03:32):
I was wanted to say, what's worse Mobius, Morbius or Borderlands.

Speaker 2 (01:03:36):
I think Morbius. But but it's also because I have
strong feelings about the lead actor and Morbius that yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:03:45):
Same, he's done some stuff that I find unprofessional.

Speaker 2 (01:03:48):
Yes.

Speaker 1 (01:03:50):
Uh. The next movie we have is next trailer is
for something that looks absolutely delightful called Your Monster. It's
kind of it's a it's an indie film, and it's
like kind of Beauty in the Beast dish. Yeah, kind
of both Beauty and the Beast.

Speaker 2 (01:04:08):
Right, like so kind of Beauty and the Beast if
the Beast was also trying to help turn you into
from a from a blow to a wow like that.
Like it's almost like like like what if Beauty and
the Beast mixed with queer eye for the straight guy
kind of thing, with the main character being a young

(01:04:31):
woman who is absolutely devastated because her boyfriend has broken
up with her and it turns out there's a beast
man secretly living in her home.

Speaker 1 (01:04:44):
Yeah. Yeah, who's supposed to represent her rage because she's
a very The character is a very soft spoken actress
who kind of gets walked all over and yeah, is
a people pleaser, which I relate to not at all.

Speaker 2 (01:04:58):
Yeah, And she he has these interactions with the Beast
character who is very sardonic and kind of sarcastic and
uh and trying to help her begrudgingly trying to help
her through her grieving process and to kind of go
on a journey of self discovery in the wake of

(01:05:20):
this this jerk dumping her. And I love this trailer.

Speaker 1 (01:05:27):
Yeah, me too, Me too. It gave me like updated
vibes of like the old Beauty and the Beast TV
show with Linda Hamilton and Ron Pearlman a little bit,
except for this Beast was completely happy with his lone noss.

Speaker 2 (01:05:42):
Do we even say what the title was if we didn't?
Your Monster your Monster? Yeah? Why? Oh you are your
as this monster is your monster? Yeah? I agree. It
did have a very Beauty and the Beast kind of
feel to it, as in the Linda Hamilton Beauty and
the Beast television series, because the Beast design kind of

(01:06:04):
reminded me of that Ron Pearlman's version of the.

Speaker 1 (01:06:06):
Yes, plus it's set in modern day and the Beast
is well acquainted with society and culture and all those stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:06:13):
Yeah. Yeah, So I think I'll check this out because
it looks fun.

Speaker 1 (01:06:18):
Me too comes out in October, so we don't have
to wait that long. Next is a trailer for a
cartoon called Twilight of the Gods that if you watch
it on one point five speed is a reasonable pace.

Speaker 2 (01:06:40):
Produced by Zack Snyder, which will be a surprise to
nobody once they start watching this trailer, which.

Speaker 1 (01:06:46):
Is why I said if you watch it sped up
a little bit, it's at a reasonable pace.

Speaker 2 (01:06:50):
If you think that Zack Snyder mostly makes movies where
it's action figures slamming against each other until one of
them breaks. This is more of that, but in cartoon form.

Speaker 1 (01:07:00):
Yeah. It's about a Norse woman, a Viking woman something yeah. Yeah,
and Thor I guess, kills her husband and she wants revenge.

Speaker 2 (01:07:14):
Yeah. So she meets her husband when the two of
them are in battle. She saves him from being killed
when it's like this massive skirmish that's going on, which
absolutely makes the man smitten with her, which, hey, great
example of masculinity there. He's not at all embarrassed or

(01:07:35):
ashamed that a woman has saved his life. He's appreciative
and falls in love with her. Love that Thor for
some reason, like apparently he didn't give permission for this
woman to get married, so he comes down and kills
the husband, and she takes a shue with that, so
she works with Loki to figure out a way where

(01:07:55):
she could potentially kill Thor.

Speaker 1 (01:07:59):
Yeah. Like conceptually, it's one of the things that Zack
Snyder has come out with that is more interesting to me.
It'll be too long. The trailer was already too slow,
and the jokes that were in the trailer didn't quite
hit right. But the art style is really pretty and
not gonna lie. I'm totally like, I'm torn. I would

(01:08:22):
love to Cause play the main character because she's just
got like a sowirly around herye, And I could just
do that, but then everybody would think I was a
Zack Snyder fan.

Speaker 2 (01:08:30):
Although I think he's just the producer on this. I
don't think he I don't think he directed it, but
it definitely has elements of it that make you think, oh,
this is very similar to other Zack Snyder projects.

Speaker 1 (01:08:42):
And again not to diss him, I think he does
some very beautiful work. I just think he needs to
be edited down a lot.

Speaker 2 (01:08:49):
Like Peter Jackson.

Speaker 1 (01:08:50):
Yeah, more more than you know, And I didn't you know,
I didn't watch some of his more recent stuff, but like, yeah,
and I like three hundred Fine, it was a very
pretty movie.

Speaker 2 (01:09:04):
Yeah, so a little curious about this, but I think
this is one where I'm going to wait to read
some reviews before i invest time into it. But yeah,
I am intrigued, but not like the Zack Snyder thing
gives me pause as well. Lastly, we have a trailer
for a sci fi kind of heist maybe some horror

(01:09:27):
elements in it movie called Things Will Be.

Speaker 1 (01:09:30):
Different, Yes, where a brother and sister get into some
trouble and he, the brother, gets them out of that
trouble by winding a clock in a house and going
through it all lying the witch in the wardrobe, and
they end up in the house or a different house
in a different time to wait out the trouble that

(01:09:52):
they've gotten in until it passes. But then there are
antagonistic figures that are threatening to be a harm to
the brea in sister's life while they stay in that house.

Speaker 2 (01:10:02):
Yeah, so it kind of feels like he somehow found
out about this mysterious and mystical house where you can
manipulate time, so they it looks like they pull a robbery,
is what I got from the trailer and they use
this to try and avoid the authorities, but then it

(01:10:24):
turns out messing with the timeline has consequences. This isn't
making me think of anything else like Loki in the
Time Variance Authority. I'm not thinking about anything like that
or like the other myriad of time manipulation films that
we got recently.

Speaker 1 (01:10:42):
Honestly, it didn't make me think about LOOKI despite the
fact that you're right the story is very similar, but
it did. I think that's because the slight offness of
being in a different time and to make them feel
like they really shouldn't be there. Give me more of
like a lime Limetown vibe or or like a Rabbits,
which are both podcasts that just deal with funkiness happening

(01:11:06):
to the timeline and augmented realities.

Speaker 2 (01:11:09):
Yeah, and like I said, there is more of a
horror edge to this, right, So it's not like it's
a bureaucratic organization that sweeps in to clear up the
mess of a messed up timeline. It feels more like, oh,
you have messed with the natural order of things and
now it's going to push back. So in a way,
it's actually kind of it's not nearly as horrific, but

(01:11:33):
it is kind of giving me like final destination vibes, right,
the idea that, oh, you escaped death, but you were
meant to die, so it's still coming for you. You
can't escape it.

Speaker 1 (01:11:45):
Yeah. Yeah, this movie could be horror or it could
be suspenseful. I'm interested, but if it's more on the
horror side, I don't think I'll be able to watch it.
It'll creep me out a little too much. But it
looks good. Yep, And that is it. Sorry, we had
to rush a little bit through the last few stories.
I am on a bit more of a time crunch

(01:12:06):
than normal, but lots of you know what I'll say
this year, there are a lot more movies coming out
this fall around spoopy season that I am excited about
than I have been in the past.

Speaker 2 (01:12:19):
Yeah, and of course we'll probably get more before we
even get through the rest of September. So although we
may not be recording.

Speaker 1 (01:12:28):
Next week, correct, we probably will not be recording next week,
but we you know, we will get more things probably
through September. I don't know how much, because of course,
everything is a little thrown off from all of the
strikes this past year. You know, we're gonna have some
weird dips and rises and media, especially as since we're

(01:12:50):
in between that and the holiday season. But that at
least I don't know. I'm not speaking on authority. I'm
speaking from an educated guess.

Speaker 2 (01:13:00):
So yeah, same, I have nothing to add to that.
Oh sorry, it's okay, sad, No, not at all. You
did not make me sad.

Speaker 1 (01:13:11):
You're making a face and I can't read it, Jonavan.

Speaker 2 (01:13:14):
It's just it's because I was looking something up, and well,
I had nothing to do with what you were saying.

Speaker 1 (01:13:19):
I was looking something up, okay, because.

Speaker 2 (01:13:22):
You have a question to ask me, and I needed
to have reference.

Speaker 1 (01:13:26):
Oh what is my question? I wanted to ask?

Speaker 2 (01:13:28):
What do you ask at the end of every episode?

Speaker 1 (01:13:30):
Oh? Shoot, you're right. Oh sorry, I'm sleepy, Jonathan.

Speaker 2 (01:13:36):
Yeah, Ariel, do you have a question for me?

Speaker 1 (01:13:39):
I do? How do people reach us?

Speaker 2 (01:13:43):
So what you're going to have to do is you're
going to have to plan a game night with a
bunch of friends, and then you're going to realize, oh crap,
I actually don't all of my board games like they're
missing pieces and stuff. I don't have a complete board game.
I need to go out and get something. So you
rush out and you go down to like a secondhand

(01:14:03):
store because you're like, I just need a game. Maybe
even I'll just get some copies of games that I
already have, and perhaps I'll be able to get a
full set out of this stuff. It'll be cheap. I'll
do it that way. And you find that when you
get back, you've got this, you know, hall of games,
and for some reason, one of the games you grabbed
you don't even remember that this was one of them,

(01:14:24):
but it's an old game of candy Land, and you're like,
what the heck am I doing? But weirdly enough, your
friends come over and everybody gets, you know, a little
I don't want to say in debriated. They celebrate, and
in the celebration they just decide, for funzies, let's play
a game of candy Land. Yeah, we're all adults. We're

(01:14:47):
going to play a game of candy Land anyway. So
you're gonna start playing. And the weird thing is you're
all going to get sucked into the game. You are
in candy Land, and you're going to make your way
around Candyland, trying to avoid all the dangerous environments that
are throughout the realm, and eventually you're going to come

(01:15:10):
upon Lord Licorice, and this is going to be a
big deal. The way you present yourself to Lord Licorice
is you have to bow with deference and beg for
his mercy, and then upon closer inspection you will see
that Lord Licorice is, in fact me, I've been there

(01:15:30):
the whole time, and that's when you can ask your question.

Speaker 1 (01:15:35):
Awesome, And if you're not a Liquorice fan or you're
more of like a og mouse trap kind of a kid,
then you can reach out to us on social media
on Facebook and threads and Instagram. We are a large
nurdrunk collider on discord we are large nur drunk Collider.
You can find that invite on our website www dot

(01:15:58):
largenurdrun collider dot com. We're also on Twitter slash ex
for LLNC Underscore podcast and if you get something long
for him that you want to send us, you can
do it in an email. Our email is large nerdron
Pod at gmail dot com. That's a lot. My brain
is now completely fried because I am so tired. So

(01:16:19):
until next time, I'm going to be I until next time.
I'm going to be Ariel. I can finish a sentence
cast in and.

Speaker 2 (01:16:28):
I will be Jonathan MacArthur. Park is a terrible song.
It's not as good as Harry Belafonte. How dare you?
Tim Burton Strickland.

Speaker 1 (01:16:39):
True Facts.

Speaker 2 (01:16:42):
The Large Nerdron Collider was created by Ariel Caston and produced, edited, published, deleted, undeleted,
published again. Curse That by Jonathan Strickland. Music by Kevin
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