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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:10):
Hey, everybody, Welcome to the Large Nur John Collider the podcast.
It's all about the geeky things happening in the world
around us and how very excited we are about them.
I'm Ariel Casten, and with me, as always is the
splendiferous Jonathan Strickland.

Speaker 2 (00:24):
With this, mate, I mean, I am.

Speaker 1 (00:28):
We have our video on today. Yeah, you're going to
do something cool.

Speaker 2 (00:33):
When have I ever done anything cool?

Speaker 1 (00:36):
Like every Day of your Wife?

Speaker 2 (00:38):
Oh, you're too kind? No, no, no, nothing cool. We
were just talking before we hit record about the fact
that we're going into Memorial Day weekend and that I
had foolishly booked a whole bunch of vacation travel with
my family, and that it means I will probably have
to wait a while before I can see Furiosa, which

(01:02):
I am very anxious to actually go see.

Speaker 1 (01:05):
Yeah, I want to see that. I've got like a
list of movies that have been like I want to
see this in the theater, and I've seen very few
of them. So American Fiction and then The Ministry of
Ungentlemanly Warfare I wanted to see in the theater, and
I think it's still playing at some AMC's, but we
are not getting paid to say that.

Speaker 2 (01:24):
But yeah, but.

Speaker 1 (01:26):
I haven't seen it yet. It's not in it like
I thought it would stick around longer, but it's not
in a lot of theater. Theaters turn over quickly right now,
and Fall Guy I still want to see. I think
there's one other one and now Furiosa.

Speaker 2 (01:37):
So it was just last night when someone was telling
me that I really needed to see Fall Guide. They like,
have you seen Fall Guide? And I said, no, Like,
it just wasn't high on my list. It looks fun,
no shade against it, but like, there wasn't something about
that that was drawing me to it more than like,

(01:58):
I'm sure it's a very entertaining film and maybe I
would really love it. Everyone talks about how it's a
love letter to stunt coordinators and stunt performers, which is
awesome because they certainly deserve adulation and recognition. But yeah,
I just I don't know. I thought the trailers looked fine,

(02:19):
but nothing about that film grab me. To be fair, though,
the action genre is the hardest one to get me
excited about it. If it's just like an action film,
if it's like sci fi action like Furiosa, I'm more
often on board. But I've already seen the greatest action

(02:40):
film that was ever made, so everything else is like
die Hard. Diehard is the greatest action film that was
ever made, not a Christmas movie. We've had this discussion,
We had this, we did a whole episode about it.
It has, it has you know what, I'm not going
to make the joke because I'm making the joke in
my third seconds or less cool, So I'm going to

(03:01):
save it till that.

Speaker 1 (03:02):
I will say The fall Guy is based off of
like the old eighties TV series.

Speaker 2 (03:08):
Yeah, I think it came out, maybe it even started
in the late seventies. I remember that show being on
when I was a kid, but I don't think I
ever if I ever watched an episode, I have no
memory of it.

Speaker 1 (03:18):
Yeah, I mean same here. But I do like stunt work,
you know, I wanted to do stunt work for a while.
I still kind of do, like I want to stay
you know, maybe I won't be able to do high
falls or as many like roles or whatever, but I
still like stunt typework, you know, fighting and things like that.
But it didn't really grab me until the trailers. Like

(03:40):
the concept didn't grab me, but the trailers, the chemistry
between Ryan Gosling and Emily Blunt, it just seems so
fun and it reminds me of the same sort of
like vibe I got from Day After Tomorrow.

Speaker 2 (03:52):
So yeah, I was really amused. I've been on a
kind of furio Press junket devouring a course recently because
I mean, obviously, whenever a film comes out, the stars
are sent to go through the dog and pony show

(04:14):
of appearing on all the different outlets and answering the
same like twelve questions over and over again. And one
thing that I thought was interesting, which I did get
to hear this story multiple times, is that Anya Taylor
Joy did not know how to drive, nor did she
have a license when she took on the job of Furiosa.

(04:37):
And she said the very first thing she learned to
do as a driver was a like a drift move
where you're you're gunning the accelerator, you hit the emergency
handbrake and you turn the wheel as hard as he
can and do a one to eighty. And I'm like, wow,
that's a For me, it was starting the car and

(04:59):
putting it into reverse.

Speaker 1 (05:02):
Yeah, that's that's also a mean thing to do to
somebody on like the first time behind a wheel is
just let them pull out front ways.

Speaker 2 (05:10):
She still doesn't have her license, or at least she
didn't when she was doing the press junket, like, she
still has not actually taken her driving test, but it's
funny to know that she was, you know, helming and
a film that heavily involves car stunts in particular. But yeah,

(05:33):
it's also I watched the lad Bible TV interview between
her and Chris Hemsworth's the one where they are asking
questions of the two people and they have to choose
whether they agree or disagree with the statement they have
like a glass of water and the table is divided
up between strongly disagree on one side and strongly agree

(05:54):
on the opposite side, and you put the glass wherever
you feel. And I could not pay attention to the
questions because they were in their wide shot. I was
just marveling at how tall Anya Taylor joyce stiletto heels were.
They were like insane.

Speaker 1 (06:13):
Yeah, I wore really tall heels for the first time
in years at a family wedding last week?

Speaker 2 (06:18):
Was it last week? God? So you were approximately eight
feet tall.

Speaker 1 (06:21):
I was approximately eight feet tall, which you know, I
didn't want to outshine the bride. I certainly didn't. The
bride was stunning, amazingly stunning, my cousin in law. But
but like my feet were tore up, like the pandemic
has made my feet a whimp. So I guess maybe

(06:42):
she's lucky to have stayed in the film industry where
she has to wear shoes regularly, because.

Speaker 2 (06:47):
Yeah, I couldn't imagine walking around in those They just
they looked they looked like they were a punishment to me.

Speaker 1 (06:56):
Now, I mean there is a chance that she wore
like flats or sneakers to the studio and put on
heels when she got there.

Speaker 2 (07:04):
Possible, Yeah, entirely. I mean it's hard for me to
imagine Anya Taylor Joy as being at all casual, only
because she has become so known for being very very
much on like the cutting edge of fashion, Like that's
kind of been her brand. Like you ever see her anything,

(07:24):
She's always wearing something very fashionable and unusual, and I'm
sure that's not her twenty four to seven, but she
has cultivated that image to the point where it's hard
for me to imagine her and anything like dressed down.

Speaker 1 (07:37):
Yeah, yeah, I get that fun times. Yeah, I hope
to see it too. Well, if you don't get to
see it and I don't get to see it because
my husband's iffy on it, then maybe we can go
see it together.

Speaker 2 (07:50):
That would be awesome. I would totally go see the
movie with you. Yeah, Well, touch base when I get
back in town. So typically before we get started on
thirty seconds or less, we about what we have watched.
But Ariel, you've been traveling a lot and doing lots
of extracurricular activities, so I imagine you've had very little

(08:10):
time to devote to watching geeky stuff.

Speaker 1 (08:14):
Yeah. When I got home last night from my extracurricular
stuff last night two nights ago, I watched the latest
Smarty Pants on dropout. And then other than that, I
did watch the first half of Bridgerton, which dropped. And
I will say it's not my favorite, Like I expected
it to be my favorite season and it's not quite
hitting me as amazing as I wanted it to.

Speaker 2 (08:39):
That's a bummer. Are you still enjoying it at least?

Speaker 1 (08:41):
I am. I am still enjoying it. And some of
the costumes are amazing and some of the costumes, I'm like,
what are they doing? Like some of the costumes are
obviously like avant garde or you know, like the kind
of fashion that you don't off of the runway.

Speaker 2 (09:01):
Right right, you would never see this anywhere other than
like the met Gala or something.

Speaker 1 (09:06):
Yeah, And some of the dresses lean more that way
than just one or two then you know period piece,
which is fine because it's a fantastical period piece, right,
you know, they play with that and that's that's part
of the fun. And some of the dresses, I'm just like,
why did you make that choice? I don't like it,
but you know, I can't say i'd do better because

(09:29):
I didn't do the fashion for the show. Some of
the dresses that though I would like, I want in
my warrobe. And it is fun. It's fun.

Speaker 2 (09:37):
It's just not it doesn't quite meet your expectations.

Speaker 1 (09:44):
Yeah, And I think part of the problem is the
Queen Charlotte series, which was a spin off that I
didn't expect to like as much. I absolutely loved because
it dealt with the mental illness of King George and
their relationship in such like a kind way that it

(10:04):
was just really good, really really good.

Speaker 2 (10:08):
I want to say friend of the show, shay Lee
is that's where her entry point has been for the
whole series, which is interesting.

Speaker 1 (10:16):
Yeah, I mean you can watch it before watching any
of Bridgerton. And I do think it is a stronger
piece of work than Bridgerton. One of my actor friends
was saying that I think Shonda Rhymes actually wrote Queen Charlotte.
But it's just it's a really beautiful piece of acting
and work. And yeah, but also like part of the

(10:38):
problem is the first half of Bridgerton is only of
this season of Bridgerton is only four episodes.

Speaker 2 (10:43):
So right, well, I'll pass along your note to one
of my coworkers, who is the executive producer on the
Shonda Rhyme's slate of podcasts. Yeah, I have never had
any contact with anyone from that side, so I'm only
like adjacent to greatness. So well, don't don't.

Speaker 1 (11:04):
Don't wrap me out.

Speaker 2 (11:05):
I love look well, no, I mean I'm in about
the compliments of the Charlotte series.

Speaker 1 (11:09):
Okay, yes, yes, do that, because like I was about
to say, you know, just just because something doesn't hate
me in a favorable way doesn't mean it's not a
good show. Well, and that would want to be a
part of it in the future.

Speaker 2 (11:23):
I would never tell an artist like, hey, your art
is almost as good as I hoped it would be.
I would never do that. That's like the biggest jerk
base move in the world. So so I watched one
thing that's very, very geeky, and I was very pleased
to see this pop up on YouTube because Jenny Nicholson,

(11:47):
she's a video essayist's.

Speaker 1 (11:49):
I did watch this vaguely. I didn't think the.

Speaker 2 (11:52):
Star Wars Hotel video, Yeah, but I watched.

Speaker 1 (11:55):
I watched it on like one point seventy five speed
while I was working.

Speaker 2 (11:58):
Okay, so you you got through it magnificantly faster or
the bit that you watched, you got through faster than
I did because I watched it on normal speed. And
this is a more than four hour long video. So
Jenny Nicholson does these video essays, some of which are
on the super long side. Most of them tend to
be like her older stuff is all like around half
an hour, but she did a few pieces that were

(12:21):
longer than that, Like she did a really good one
on the Evermore Park that was around three hours. I think, Well,
this was about favor well it was more like a
it was not favorable. I don't think you can say.
I think it was more like it was more like,
here's what was promised and here's what ended up happening,

(12:44):
which is very much the way the Star Wars Hotel
one is, which is about the Galactic Star Cruiser experience,
which was built at Disney World as like a two day,
two night experience, like it was a cruise. You're not
actually on a boat, you're inside a building. It's made
to look like a star cruiser. But it was priced

(13:06):
like a very very expensive cruise, like even more expensive
than a Disney cruise, and Disney cruises are expensive. And
so it's Ginny Nicholson's experience. Like first she gives like
a full rundown of the history of it, the development
of it. She talks about her experience. She talks about like,
you know, she and her sister paid around six thousand

(13:28):
dollars to stay there.

Speaker 1 (13:30):
I think she says, two dollars per minute per person.

Speaker 2 (13:34):
Yeah, and a lot of unfortunate things happened on her
specific visit that some of which were you could argue
Disney's fault, some of which had nothing to do like
for example, the day when they got to go to Batu.
It was one of those days in Florida where there's
just a downpour, and obviously Disney has no control over that,

(13:55):
but it does. It does end. If they did, that
would be weird, but it has a huge impact obviously
on the quality of your visit. But like they were
seated at a table for dining that was that had
like a column or a stanchion in between them and
their the sort of staging area where all the story

(14:18):
stuff unfolded, which meant they couldn't see anything. And so
her takedown, it's not even a takedown. Her criticisms largely
are about how for the price you were paying, there
seemed to be a lot of gaps as far as
the quality of experience you could have. And it's a
fascinating video. It is kind of heartbreaking, especially if you

(14:42):
really like Disney, because it seems to be indicative of
some long standing issues that that Disney fans have been
noticing in the parks in general. You know, everything from
ticket prices continuing to go up to turning the fast
pass system into a paywalled system with very popular rides

(15:06):
behind a second paywall like it's it's kind of an
indictment against Disney's current business practices as far as the
parks go. But I think it's incredibly well done.

Speaker 1 (15:22):
Yeah, what I saw of it, I thought so too.
I was surprised when she said that, like, there were
up charges she could have got. She could have gotten
bigger rooms or paid more money, or there were a
bunch of like the captain's table for dinner and all
this other stuff that she wasn't told about. And I understand,
when you've got something that expensive and exclusive, you may
not fully disclose all your prices up front, but I

(15:43):
would think that the upsell would be big on it.

Speaker 2 (15:46):
Well, that's the thing that you know. One of her
big criticisms is that the marketing was just I think
part of the problem was that Disney did such a
terrible job with marketing early on, like to the point
where they were getting ridiculed for it. They made them
gun shy. And part of them being gunshy is that
they announced the prices before they really gave many details

(16:06):
on what the experience was like. And as Jenny says, like,
that's kind of the opposite way you would think you
would do it. You would think you would build up
what all the experiences are. First, get people excited, then
they're a little more receptive when you hit them with
the bombshell that this is going to set you back
at least five thousand dollars, and that's if you're getting

(16:27):
the cheapest room. So you know, it's it was definitely
crazy that Disney would have all these add ons and
then not appropriately alert people. Apparently they sent emails out,
but a lot of people didn't get them, including Jenny,
so that was a big part of the problem. And

(16:49):
she said, like there were certain ones. It's not that
she was eager to spend more money, but there were
certain things that she would have spent more money on
if she had known about it, because it would have
meant she would have had a better experience, like if
she had gotten the captain's table, for example, she would
have been able to see what was going on during dinner.

Speaker 1 (17:06):
Yeah, it is interesting though, because I did have friends go.
We've well, we've had some like mutual acquaintances go, mutual
friends go, but I had some of my LARP friends go.
A couple of the people who were like the owners
of the LARP company that I had been a part
of for so very long, went and loved it so

(17:26):
much that they were planning to go back and bring
their kids and like had the absolute best time. And
these are people who have spent years curating art and
performances and LARPs. And I say that because they also
helped produce films and dance shows and music and like,
so people who are in that world and they really

(17:48):
loved it. So it is. It is interesting. At first
I thought maybe Jenny didn't have like the right mindset,
but it certainly seems through the parts of her documentary
that I watched that she did.

Speaker 2 (17:58):
Yeah. Well, and she's also a form Disney cast member.

Speaker 1 (18:01):
Oh I didn't know that.

Speaker 2 (18:02):
Yeah, she worked at Disneyland and she I mean she,
let's be fair, she has an axe to grind with
Star Wars because she loves Star Wars and then she
didn't like the sequels. But also, this is not talking
out of school. There's a whole video about this. The

(18:24):
place she worked in Disneyland was a place that got
cleared to make way for the Star Wars Galaxy's Edge
in Disneyland, So like the whole area where she used
to work doesn't exist anymore. So like I am playfully
saying that she has a grudge against Disney. It's not
really true, but she did say that after she worked there,

(18:46):
she was moved into essentially customer satisfaction and like she's like, yeah,
then my job was just having to sit there while
people came up and yelled at me about their vacation.

Speaker 1 (18:58):
But that's not very magical at all.

Speaker 2 (19:00):
But before that she was in there was a petting
zoo that was at Disneyland, and she worked the petting zoo,
so she really loved that. And then that's because it
had such low traffic. That's where they said, well, this
makes sense to get rid of this and make way
for the Star Wars attraction. Yeah, so anyway, that's a

(19:21):
If you haven't ever seen any of Jenny Nicholson's stuff,
you can check it out. She has a very quirky
kind of delivery style, especially in her older videos, because
she gets a little like she gets a little breathy,
like she's talking about this thing and she doesn't really
know why it's like that, Like that's kind of her

(19:42):
delivery and some of her earlier stuff. I think it's quirky.
Some people might find it irritating. I don't know, gotcha.
I like her work. She does really she does a
really good job at synthesizing information and then communicating it.
So I really respect that.

Speaker 1 (20:01):
Yeah, in a very fun way. At first, I thought
I confused her with Jinny D, who is also kind
of quirky and also a delight to watch, but not
the same person.

Speaker 2 (20:12):
Before we moved to thirty seconds or less. Have you
seen her video about the evangelical church in Canada that
does Easter plays but they end up appropriating copyrighted characters
and stories.

Speaker 1 (20:24):
But I have seen I have seen things about that
church on like TikTok and social media and things like that.

Speaker 2 (20:29):
She's got another like it's like a super because she
goes through all the ones she had access to, and
that video is I have to watch it in chunks,
not because it's so long, but because it sets off
my cringe alert so much that I have to like
pace myself.

Speaker 1 (20:48):
Yeah, I don't think the execution of those are very good,
And more so, I don't think they got the licensing
rights to use the like.

Speaker 2 (20:54):
Hamilton, not at all. Well, the ones thing and that
upsets me. Hamilton, I didn't see, but she did like
like the ones they the ones they were talking about
were things like they had one where it was Back
to the Future, they had one that was the Avengers,
they had one and.

Speaker 1 (21:08):
One that was Rocky Horror Picture Show meets. I think
Little Shop of Horrors or something like.

Speaker 2 (21:12):
That wasn't in her video, but that sounds amazing.

Speaker 1 (21:16):
I will be sending you some links, my friend. Maybe
it's a different organization that does it, but similar.

Speaker 2 (21:22):
It could be this one. This one is, like I said,
it's an evangelical church in Canada where uh, the biggest,
the biggest cringey thing that they do is that it's
a very white church and occasionally they have people playing
non white characters and it comes down to extreme stereotypes.

Speaker 1 (21:44):
Yeah, that's not good. That's not good.

Speaker 2 (21:46):
No, not good, not a good thing.

Speaker 1 (21:48):
Yeah, but I have had my fair share of laughs
at a couple of places that do to have done
stuff like that. Maybe it's all the same place. I
don't know. I'll have to look that up and I
will be sending you some links later.

Speaker 2 (22:02):
Sounds good. I look forward to seeing bits of the
fact that it could be two very different churches also
delights me. All right, Well, now that we've got that
very long tangent out of the way. I suppose we
should move on to thirty seconds or less because we
actually have quite a bit to talk about.

Speaker 1 (22:22):
Yeah, and the first is the will they won't they?
Of Margot Roby's Pirates of the Caribbean movie is on
the will day side This week, apparently, Jerry Bruckheimer said
that Disney would like to make both the one that
she is working on with Christina Hodson of Birds of Prey,
as well as the one that Jeff Nathanson of A

(22:44):
Young Woman in the Sea is working on or is
set to work on, which is great news. I don't
know if we need that many Pirate of the Caribbean
world movies, if it's going to be a fractured EU
like DC is now like other worlds Pirates. But we'll see, kay,

(23:05):
or we will.

Speaker 2 (23:05):
Or we won't. Yeah, Well, stay tuned, we'll find out
when you do. If you watched one The Vision, you
know a central part of that show is the mystery
of how vision is there in the first place. By
the end of the series, we have a new vision.
He's stark, white and freshly filled with visions old memories
before he flies off. Now we know that in twenty
twenty six, we're getting a Disney Plus series featuring Vision,

(23:28):
and Paul Bettany will be back to play him. Terry Matalis,
who helped star Trek Mcard, will be the showrunner.

Speaker 1 (23:35):
Y'all can't see that. I'm I'm gluten at that because
I love Paul Bettany's vision. Jonathan needs to hurry up
and finish Sandman because season two is on its way,
and we just got a drop of the new characters
they're introducing into season two, which, to be fair, a
couple of the characters they already well, they show us

(23:57):
all the characters they've already introduced, and then they introduce
the character of Delirium, Destiny and the Prodigal which close
your ears for ten seconds if you don't know and
you don't want to know, is destruction. And yeah, it
looks they look pretty good. When I saw the picture

(24:18):
of the first glimpse of Delirium, I was like, that
reminds me of my friend because she dressed up like
Delirium for Halloween a couple of years ago.

Speaker 2 (24:28):
Wow. Well, Darren Limkey, who wrote the film adaptation of Goosebumps,
will be writing a film inspired by the legendary exclusive
club at Disney called Club thirty three. The wait list
to join that club is long and limited, and it
is mad expensive, like it's thirty three thousand dollars up

(24:49):
front and fifteen thousand dollars a year for Club thirty
three at Disney World. So my guess is that this
is going to be a movie that really shows how
the rich lead an exclusionary existence compared to the rest
of us, and we should eat them. But the Hollywood
reporter says it's going to be more like Clue. Wow.

Speaker 1 (25:06):
No, that is interesting.

Speaker 2 (25:09):
I I have complicated feelings about Club thirty three.

Speaker 1 (25:16):
Maybe we'll move it into the actual conversation next week
if you're still feeling those feelings. Horror Inc. Who are
the original owners of Friday the thirteenth. I'm already scared
because my voice cracked, y'all Horror thirteen or Horror Inc.
Lord help me. I have not had enough sleep. We've

(25:37):
already hit thirty seconds. So they're doing a bunch of
more jacent stuff, including games, igmersive experiences, merchandise, and a
prequel series called Crystal Lake that's going to be on Peacon.

Speaker 2 (25:47):
Yeah. This was so I know We've already hit the
thirty seconds, so I'm going to go ahead and do
this anyway. This was actually a big deal because this
is one of those things where there were disputes with
the rights because the pre series. The title was held
up in a long time because whether or not they
would have the right to call it Crystal Lake was
a question, and that was something that had to be

(26:09):
settled eventually. Sounds like it has been okay. Yeah. Fathom
Events and DC Studios are bringing the long awaited documentary
Super slash Man The Christopher Reeves Story the theaters on
September twenty first, twenty twenty four, and there will be
an encore presentation on September twenty fifth, which was Christopher
Reeves's birthday. The documentary details the life of the late

(26:33):
Christopher Reeve, who was many things besides what I would
call the best cinematic Superman to date in my opinion,
because he was also in Noises Off.

Speaker 1 (26:44):
Very interesting. Todd McFarlane and Scott Silver have been working
on a Spawn movie. That's not really news, but we
did get news. They have been writing and rewriting and
reworking the script into something that they like, which great
if you don't like the script you've made. Work on
it some more, but they're hoping to have it done
so that they can get a studio partner before Joker

(27:06):
fally Ad comes out in October.

Speaker 2 (27:11):
Well, here comes that joke I have warned you about earlier.
As Stained would say, it's been a while since we've
seen old Geralta rivio on the screen. Henry Cavill famously
stepped back from The Witcher in twenty twenty two in
order to not be Superman. Instead, Netflix named Liam Hemsworth
the new Gerralt, and Netflix just gave us the first
look of Liam as the Witcher in a very short

(27:32):
clip on X in which we get to look at
his back for a while as he's walking, and then
he stops and then he turns around a little bit.
This was less interesting to talk about than to watch,
and it wasn't interesting to watch.

Speaker 1 (27:46):
Dexter is getting a prequel series, Dexter Original Sin Now
they have cast the leads for it. Patrick Gibson will
be playing Kid Dexter, Christian Slater will be playing kid
Dexter Daddy and that sounds creepy his father, and Molly
Brown will be playing Dexter's sister Deborah. When you read

(28:06):
the synopsis of Dexter, along with the fact that he's
a kid, it's much more creepy even if you knew
that from the original series. But if you're a fan,
you'll have more content coming soon.

Speaker 2 (28:18):
Honestly, I thought they should have gotten the kid who
played Sheldon and young Sheldon to play young Dexter.

Speaker 1 (28:24):
He's I mean, he's not really a kid anymore.

Speaker 2 (28:27):
No, but like Dexter doesn't. I mean, the first time
we see Dexter, he's clearly in his late twenties, early
thirties something like that, so we still have room there, Okay.
In Pet's cemetery, Fred Gwinn said, sometimes dead is better,
But Gwen is also Herman Munster and the Munsters, and
it seems like Munsters just won't stay dead. Rob Zombie

(28:49):
did a poorly received reboot not too long ago. Before that,
we got a TV series called Mockingbird Lane that lasted
maybe two episodes, and now James Wand has been tapped
to bring it back again, this time as thirteen thirteen,
which will quote live and breathe within the Universal Monster
Verse end quote.

Speaker 1 (29:08):
Yay, I mean, I love classic Universal monsters.

Speaker 2 (29:14):
Yeah. Maybe just look at how great they've been doing
with those in the most recent films.

Speaker 1 (29:21):
Yeah, and I thought it was dead and now we're
getting a park, So maybe maybe the entire Dark Universe
park will just all be monsters.

Speaker 2 (29:28):
That would be I mean, I do like the theme
song that that theme song rocks.

Speaker 1 (29:34):
Yes, yeah, okay, probably shouldn't sing it on the show.
Dave the Diver really bizarre but kind of relaxing game
is treading into deep waters. They have now released a
Godzilla DLC where you get Godzilla and Abira I guess Eberra,

(30:01):
the lobster one that you can fight, and they'll fight
each other and you can find like weird like tokens
that are related to them. If you like the Dave
the Diver and you think it needs more kaiju, you
can download it until you can download the DLC until
November twenty third. If you don't and you just want

(30:22):
an innate, creepy fishing game, go check out Dredge.

Speaker 2 (30:24):
Yeah, which had a crossover with Dave the Diver, which
is great. It's fantastic. Yeah, both of those games are great.
By the way, Dave the Diver and Dredge are both
fantastic and they did do a crossover and no, I
have not played the crossover, but I have played both
the games.

Speaker 1 (30:39):
Dave, the Diver is just so weird.

Speaker 2 (30:41):
It's so many things. Yeah, it's well, it's I think
it was made in Korea and it has like a
Korean sense of humor, which is like a ven diagram
where it overlaps American sense of humor. But it's not
a perfect circle.

Speaker 1 (30:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (30:57):
Okay. A documentary titled Frank Miller American Genius is getting
a one night only showing on June tenth and Cinemark
theaters here in the United States. I take issue with
the title of that documentary, but I'll be good. Miller
has worked on iconic comic characters from Batman to Daredevil,
as well as his own creations. Silent Thomas, who's the

(31:18):
CEO of Frank Miller, Inc. Directed the documentary, which I'm
sure is even handed and fair.

Speaker 1 (31:26):
There's there's I can't I can't tell your tone in that.

Speaker 2 (31:30):
But I'm going to assume heavy dose of snark.

Speaker 1 (31:34):
Okay, That's what I thought. Last for me on the
thirty seconds or last least thirty seconds or last is
that Atari has acquired in television entertainment, and by that
I mean the brand in the games, not the actual LLC.

(31:57):
So they're going to have access to the catalog of
the television games and things like that, which includes Donkey Kong.

Speaker 2 (32:05):
I will say this, So when I was a kid,
I had an Atari twenty six hundred, and then I
got I think it was my cousin's old in television
and a whole like box of games. And this was
after the video game crash in nineteen eighty three, so
there was no there were no new games coming out
for that system, like the whole thing had folded at

(32:25):
this point. So I ad Atari really and I was
really impressed by the Intellivision games because I felt like
they were a real step up from the Atari twenty
six hundred ones, even though I hated the intelevision controller
with a passion. It was terrible.

Speaker 1 (32:40):
Yeah, so they do have good games. Donkey Kong, Pac Man, Pitfall.

Speaker 2 (32:45):
They had. They had their Dungeons and Dragons. I had
that one. I had ad and D yeah that one.
And I remember the game that I'll never forget was
be Sevan Taine Baler because it had vocal simulation on
there where you would have voice in there, which was

(33:05):
crazy because if you had played Atari twenty six hundred,
you just heard like bang bong, like those were the
sound effects. But this one had had voice in it,
but it was super like modulated and weird something, and
they had to speak really slowly for you to be
able to understand what they were saying. So that's thus
the May seventeen Balmer.

Speaker 1 (33:29):
I think that is that's amazing. I love it. I
think the in television games that I played the most
were River Raid and pole Position.

Speaker 2 (33:38):
See those were both Atari games, as I recall, but
maybe they had them on television too.

Speaker 1 (33:42):
Well maybe maybe Google has already updated them all. I
might have played pole Position on my Commodore sixty four.

Speaker 2 (33:48):
Yeah, because because river Raid was probably my favorite Atari
game that I did not own. River Raid and Pitfall
two games that I thought were incredible and I didn't
known either of them. Instead, I had Et the Extraterrestrial. Yeah,
Who's that guy?

Speaker 1 (34:05):
Is a delightful game to have said that you owned.

Speaker 2 (34:09):
Sure. Yeah, the one that everyone says killed the video
game industry and ended up ended up being in a
big a landfill.

Speaker 1 (34:16):
Landfill. Yeah. Yeah, we talked about that on one of
our Business on the Brink episodes.

Speaker 2 (34:21):
Yeah we did. Uh.

Speaker 1 (34:23):
I never owned an atari or an in television. I
just had, like I said, my Commodore sixty four. And
the game I played most is a game that I
had to look up to make sure it existed because
no one remembered it called Space Taxi.

Speaker 2 (34:37):
For me, it was there was a Texas Instruments game.
I had that for a while. I thought I had
imagined called Hunt the Wumpus, but no, it really existed.
Kind of like mind Sweeper. It's one of those games
where you have to kind of guess where what's in
the tile next to you based upon clues, and then
you make a move and if you're wrong, the Wumpus

(34:58):
eats you. All right, well let me I still have
one more thirty seconds or less. Oops, No, it's fine,
Like we're thirty five minutes into this, sucker, let's go
ahead and close out thirty seconds or less. So in
nineteen seventy seven, Steven Spielberg directed a science fiction UFO film.
It's called Close Encounters of the Third Kind, and I
loved it. Spielberg says his next project is going to

(35:19):
be going back to UFO Territory. Now, we don't know
very much about the project except that David Kupp, who
was the screenwriter on the original Jurassic Park, is going
to be working on this, adapting an original story from
Spielberg himself. The Universal Pictures already hasn't slated for a
May fifteenth, twenty twenty six release.

Speaker 1 (35:38):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (35:38):
Yeah, that's like that's a deadline, right, Like you don't
even have a cast or maybe not even a full
script yet, and you're like, yeah, this movie's coming out
on this date, so get get to work.

Speaker 1 (35:50):
Yeah, that's wow. We also had another story that should
have been in thirty seconds or less, but we found
out shortly before we hit record, which is that Knives
Out has announced the title of their third movie, which
is Wake Up dead Man, which my brain is just

(36:14):
picturing Don't Wake Daddy.

Speaker 2 (36:16):
Yeah. Well, and I was talking to Ariel before we
hit record that it was so funny that I have
just started to kind of see Glass Onion stuff pop
up in my recommendations for things like YouTube and stuff,
little clips from that, which I mean, I've seen the movie,
but I'm getting like little clips recommended to me. And

(36:37):
it made me wonder, like huh. I wonder if they're
going to make another one. And the last thing I
had seen was that everybody attached was interested in the
possibility of making another one, but that Ryan Johnson was
still working out the story. So I guess that all
got worked out.

Speaker 1 (36:54):
Yeah, I guess, so yay, yay, hey yay.

Speaker 2 (36:59):
I hope like Glass Onion is one where I enjoyed
watching it when I saw it, but I think I
liked the first movie better. Even though I liked I
liked all the actors in the sequel, but I felt
like the first movie was a better story, or at
least that's that's how I felt. Part of it may

(37:21):
have been just that I kind of my brain rejected
the concept of purposefully destroying the Mona Lisa spoiler alert
by the way, for Glass Onion.

Speaker 1 (37:34):
Anyhow, I honestly like I must have been so upset
by it that I forgot.

Speaker 2 (37:42):
Yes, I forgot. That's the climax of the film. It's
the thing that brings the villain down in the end.
But moving on, We've got some trailers and stuff to
talk about. One we saw a trailer for a documentary
that's coming to Hulu on June thirteenth. It's called Brats
and it's not about the dolls.

Speaker 1 (38:02):
Which I thought it was, so I was not looking
forward to watching the trailer. No, it's fine. Yeah, I
was like, if we really hit that point, I mean,
we need a documentary on the doll But.

Speaker 2 (38:13):
You like the Barbie movie.

Speaker 1 (38:16):
Yeah, but the Brat's already in that.

Speaker 2 (38:19):
Yeah, it's true. That's one of those if you don't know,
you'll never realize. It's a reference thing.

Speaker 1 (38:26):
Yeah. But also I guess I should have realized that
you spelled it br ats.

Speaker 2 (38:30):
Yeah. I didn't put the Z in there or the Z. Yeah.
This is about the Brat Pack, the group of young
actors in the nineteen eighties who mostly were in things
like John Hughes films, and it's sort of them reflecting
on their celebrity at that time, and also just what
the term the Brat Pack did to their careers and

(38:53):
to the perception of them as people, which I think
is really interesting because you're like, a lot of these folks,
not all of them, but a lot of them went
on to have really notable careers in film and television
and have done lots of stuff since then. So it's
interesting to see them now, you know, so many years later,

(39:17):
like forty years later to talk about this stuff.

Speaker 1 (39:21):
Yeah, it's interesting because a lot of them that well,
first of all, some of them I didn't realize we're
in the brat.

Speaker 2 (39:27):
Pack, Like Rob Loow No, yeah, Rob Blow, you're right
blow Okay.

Speaker 1 (39:32):
I was like, is that the correct low? But yeah,
Like I didn't realize he was in the brat pack.

Speaker 2 (39:38):
Yeah, because they're not. When I think brat pack, like
I think of, uh, what was it not sixteen Candles
and not Pretty in Pink Breakfast Club. Breakfast Club is
always the film I think of with brat pack, Like
that's the movie that comes to mind. But the brat
pack was it can insisted of a group of folks

(40:01):
that span lots of different movies around that same general
time period, and they all kind of fell into that
you know, teenage comedy drama type stuff. So like Fast
Times at Ridgemont High, I would argue would probably fall
into that category two, although that was probably a little later.

(40:23):
But yeah, I think the little trailer for this looked fun.
Like I liked hearing people kind of reflect on it
and hearing their perspective because it's something I had never
heard before. So it's really interesting.

Speaker 1 (40:41):
Yeah, it's positive and not positive, and it looks I
mean it just it feels very It gives the same
vibe as like class action parks as far as like
the way people relate to it almost to me interesting. Yeah,
I don't know why. I think it's just because some
people are like, oh, yeah, I didn't like being called
a brat and I didn't I didn't like it at

(41:03):
the time, or I didn't like that these things happened,
but also like it launched our career and like just
like the the very honest seeing all of the sides
of it.

Speaker 2 (41:12):
Yeah, yeah, as it And because these were movies that
were really popular when I was a kid, some of
them like obviously dealing with stuff that was a little
bit beyond my own experience because you know, I'm probably
about on average, probably about five years younger than most

(41:33):
of the members of the Brat Pack somewhere around there.
So like it's a little different for me, but still
really interesting and I'm looking forward to seeing it. Since
those films they shaped a lot of stuff that would follow, right, Like, yeah,
you could argue there'd be no Ferris Bueller's Day Off
if there hadn't been you know, pretty in paining sixteen Candles,

(41:55):
Breakfast Club, that kind of stuff. So like, when you
start looking at the evolution of comedies featuring like teenage characters,
a lot of that has its roots in this particular
era of cinema.

Speaker 1 (42:13):
Yeah, there is an interesting point in the trailer where
John it's just a brief clip of John Cryer saying
I wasn't a part of the brat pack, and how
is I hope he was kidding because how is Ducky
not a part of the brat pack?

Speaker 2 (42:24):
Yeah, I think it's gonna be kind of a cheeky,
little like murky kind of thing, and it's not reflective
of his actual feelings. That's the implication I felt. But
I won't know for sure until it comes out, And
obviously I won't know for sure until November because it's
going to be on Hulu. Yeah, yeah, and I have

(42:47):
to wait till November. But to add Hulu to my
Disney Plus subscription.

Speaker 1 (42:52):
Yes, even though a lot of those movies were kind
of before my time and I didn't get to appreciate
them as a teenager, when they can, I'm out. I
do look forward to it too. I don't look forward
to the next thing we're going to talk about.

Speaker 2 (43:06):
Yeah, this is I don't want to watch it. I
when I saw that there was a trailer for this,
I at first was excited because it's a trailer for
a documentary that's coming to HBO, a three part documentary
that premiere is on June second, and it's called.

Speaker 1 (43:21):
Is it an actual documentary?

Speaker 2 (43:23):
Yeah? Yeah, No, it's about the Texas Renaissance Festival. It's
called Renfair.

Speaker 1 (43:29):
Sorry I interrupted you.

Speaker 2 (43:30):
Yeah, it's ren Fair and this is a documentary. It's
not Did you think it was a scripted show.

Speaker 1 (43:35):
I thought it was like a mockumentary.

Speaker 2 (43:37):
No, it's a documentary. It's a real thing. Oh well
real in air quotes because documentary I think should also
be in air quotes. Because if you watch this trailer,
anyone with like even a minor amount of media awareness
will sense that this is something that's being kind of

(43:59):
put into performformance mode. It's not like a documentary as
in some kind of objective view of reality. It's clearly
played up quite a bit. I said, it feels kind
of like a Game of Thrones for very very low stakes,
but ultimately it's about this guy who started a Renaissance
festival and I believe it's supposed to be Texas, and

(44:21):
the fact that he's getting on in years, and there
are these three different people at least in the documentary,
who knows how many in reality, but three people who
are all kind of vying to be the new owner
of this because the assumption is that the current owner
will either want to hand it off or won't be

(44:43):
around for very much longer because of various health issues,
I guess. And yeah, it it feels like a lot
of it feels very fake, fakementary, yeah, or even just
plain fake, like it is not a mockular. It kind
of feels like a documentary in that it's way too

(45:04):
produced then your typical documentary would be. But yeah, I
was like.

Speaker 1 (45:12):
Also, people's reactions just don't feel real. And I I
know that Renaissance festival circuit people are interesting. They usually
feel real to me.

Speaker 2 (45:25):
Yeah, there's there's definitely, Like I said, everything feels feels fake.
Like I said, it does feel like Game of Thrones,
but for you know, very super low.

Speaker 1 (45:37):
Stakes produced by the Tiger King.

Speaker 2 (45:41):
Yeah, that's that was how I worded it. It's like
Tiger King, but Renaissance festival.

Speaker 1 (45:45):
That, Yeah, you just needed to say that.

Speaker 2 (45:48):
I would definitely say that if you want to watch
something that is about a Renaissance festival that's produced with
kind of a quirky love for how dorky renaissance festivals are.
And I say that as a former Renaissance festival performer. Renfest,

(46:09):
which was Mary Joe Pell's series best known as Mama
Forrester of M S. T. Three K, she did a
whole Renfest comedy documentary kind of thing, and although that's
more of a tell it like a comedic TV series

(46:32):
proposal that she did, but it definitely felt more like
a love letter to the craziness that is Renaissance festivals,
unless of this overproduced Tiger King nightmare.

Speaker 1 (46:48):
That being said, some of the cringy things in the
Renfest trailer that was called Fairnfair Trailer are kind not
completely inaccurate sure oftentimes, which is also upsetting. Right, So,

(47:08):
I think it's great to have a love letter to
renaissance festivals, but there's also a lot of things in
that culture that could be better.

Speaker 2 (47:16):
Well. Yeah, Like again, going back to Jenny Nicholson, the
piece she did about Evermore, I feel could easily apply
to a lot of Renaissance festivals too, And she doesn't
get into sort of the issues that certainly existed when
you and I first started at the Renaissance Fair here

(47:39):
in Georgia. The atmosphere, both on stage and backstage was
a bit more body back then, which is not to
say that it was better or worse, but it certainly
wouldn't be appropriate today. And arguably you could say it
was never appropriate. Ever, it was just not frowned upon

(48:00):
back when we started, Like there was a lax attitude
toward that kind of stuff, which was really not for
the best, I would argue. But she doesn't really touch
on that as far as Evermore goes. But she does
touch on other issues things like, you know, entertainment and
whether or not they're being fairly compensated, that kind of thing,

(48:21):
And I feel like a real documentary about a Renaissance
fair would need to go into that too, like how
are the entertainers in your fair compensated? If they are,
and if they're not, how do you get away with
that that kind of thing.

Speaker 1 (48:37):
Yeah, yeah, I do feel like ren Fair touches on
some of the inappropriate body behavior stuff in the trailer
it'll be interesting. I don't know if I can bring
myself to watch it. The next thing on HBO I
actually look forward to watching isn't really something that belongs
on the show, but it's the Great Lilian Hall.

Speaker 2 (48:57):
Yes, yeah, I sent you the trailer for that because
when I saw it, I was like, Wow, this looks
like it's going to be really effective on an emotional level.
But that's a story about an actor who is kind
of looks like it's like almost like Alzheimer's, right, Like
it's like a Alzheimer's or dementia or something. Yeah, it's

(49:20):
some sort of degenerative function that's that's hitting her, that's
affecting her ability to to just function generally, but specifically
function in her role as an actor on the stage.
And it definitely looks like it's gonna pack an emotional wallop.
I mean, there was a line at the end of

(49:41):
that trailer that was getting me to the point where
I was like, there's dust in this room because my
eyes are starting to get weepy.

Speaker 1 (49:47):
I definitely cried during the trailer, and I know someone
who's in it in a pretty decent sized role, and
I was like, I look forward to watching you, but
I need to, like, I will need to buy stocking
Kleenex because I couldn't even make it through the tra trailer.

Speaker 2 (50:01):
Well, the next thing we have on our list is
sticking with the historical historical element. A trailer for my
Lady Jane. And in this case, we're talking about Jane Gray.
And this is a fictional retelling. It's like an alternate
history series that premieeres on June twenty seventh. And it's

(50:28):
an interesting trailer because I mean, it's a very much
an alternate history to the point where people are behaving
and talking in ways that are not at all historically accurate.

Speaker 1 (50:39):
Yeah, I'm gonna I'm gonna say something, Jonathan, and you're
gonna lose respect for me. I don't really know who
Lady Jane Gray is.

Speaker 2 (50:48):
You don't know who the Lady Jane Gray is, Okay.
So she was kind of sort of queen for nine days, okay,
and then she wasn't at all, like not just not queen,
she was she was not anything anymore.

Speaker 1 (51:10):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (51:12):
Yeah, so she was, yeah, and it was she was
a teenager at the time. Yeah, she took the throne
in the mid sixteenth century and was uh, descending from
King Henry the seventh, so not the not the eighth,

(51:33):
but the seventh, and so she was like I want
to say, King Henry the eighth was like her granduncle. Uh.
And anyway, she was she was kind of tapped to
be regent because of a lack of anyone else to
do the job at the time, and you know Edward

(51:57):
had died. She effected was queen and then she was
jailed in the Tower of London and then then she
was executed. So yeah, very sad story about this person.

Speaker 1 (52:11):
Did she do anything to be executed or was it just.

Speaker 2 (52:14):
A power play she was, Yeah, she did something to
be executed in that she got to be queen.

Speaker 1 (52:20):
Okay, gotcha, gotcha?

Speaker 2 (52:21):
Yeah, No, it really was a power play kind of thing. Yeah.
She was technically charged with high treason, but that was
because of her her husband, the Lord Dudley, was seen
as a usurper. So her husband was seen as someone
who was trying to make a play for the throne
through his wife, and so kill them all was the

(52:45):
way to go with that.

Speaker 1 (52:49):
Sometimes people's methods are really not good. And I apologize.
I apologize already, Like over halfway through this episode of People,
I am running. I'm very little sleep, so I'm listening.
I promise you I'm actively listening. But sometimes things are
not sticking in my brain. So if I seem a
little off, that is why.

Speaker 2 (53:08):
Oh no worries. Yeah, this super Wonka Doodles. It's her story.
Her historical story is one of tragedy. The series appears
to be like, this was a terrible thing that happened
in history, so we're just going to rewrite it and
make it something totally different nice, which kind of makes
me think of the completely made up Adventures of Dick

(53:29):
Turpin in a way, except this doesn't look quite as silly.
This definitely has some dramatic elements to it, but it
has comedic ones too.

Speaker 1 (53:38):
Yeah, it reminded me of that. Or I haven't watched
it yet, but Renegade nell On Disney.

Speaker 2 (53:43):
Yeah, I still need to see that. I friends of
ours watched it and really liked it, and I still
haven't watched it.

Speaker 1 (53:50):
I've heard good things too, my sister. I at least
heard her response to the first episode, which was it
was really good but actually sad, which I didn't expect.
But I like that there's giving Jane Gray a chance
to rewrite her story because you know, she didn't get
to be in the musical six because thankfully she didn't
have to marry King Henry the Eighth.

Speaker 2 (54:06):
Oh but Henry the Eighth was many things, but marrying
his own grand niece was not one of them.

Speaker 1 (54:12):
Thank goodness.

Speaker 2 (54:14):
Yeah. Well, next up, we got a little little teaser
trailer thing for Stranger Things The First Shadow, which is
not a spin off Netflix series. It is a stage
show that is now mounted at the Phoenix Theater in London.

(54:34):
It actually opened this week on the twenty third of May, which,
as we record this is yesterday.

Speaker 1 (54:42):
Yeah. I think it looks like a fun play.

Speaker 2 (54:48):
It definitely. It's giving me because it has like the
same sort of effects and stuff like. It seems to
be a very effects heavy sort of show, which you
would expect for Stranger Things. It's giving me Back to
the Future musical vibes, though it's not a musical.

Speaker 1 (55:05):
I could I could see that. I yeah, I could
see that. I also haven't seen Back to the Future
the musical, but.

Speaker 2 (55:15):
Well, as you can imagine, the DeLorean in that show
is kind of like like it's not like it's the
main star or anything. But that's the thing everybody goes
nuts for when it's up on stage because it is
such an impressive theatrical effect. I have a feeling that
this show kind of has those as anchors as well. Yes,

(55:39):
I gotta see.

Speaker 1 (55:40):
I mean Beetle Juice also had a lot of cool
like and yes, Harry Potter the Curse Child. Yeah, for
all of that property's problems. Apparently this stage show has
some crazy amazing effects.

Speaker 2 (55:54):
Yeah, which you know, we can trace that back to everything,
like back to the Phantom of the Opera or Starlight
Express like that kind of stuff. But you know, obviously
it's far more sophisticated now than from the early eighties
and everything. But what did you think of this trailer?
Because I had a thought, but I don't want to
I don't want to affect your opinion before I say it.

Speaker 1 (56:19):
Also, we should say that this play is Cannon, So
even though it's not a spin off show, it is
Cannon in the Stranger Things universe. I think if Jonathan
didn't already say that, now I'm saying it if he did.

Speaker 2 (56:29):
It's also it's also I would argue a prequel because
you're seeing children who are also part of the experiments
because the main one in Stranger Things is eleven, and
one of the characters in you Know the First Shadow
is labeled as one.

Speaker 1 (56:49):
Yeah, I you know, I liked it. I think it
looks fun and engaging. Any show could, you know? Being
on being in theater, there's a lot of things that
you can there's a lot of stage magic that you
just know and your brain translates into, oh, yeah, that's
what they're doing. That's cool. I feel like this is

(57:10):
one of those shows that if I were fortunate enough
to go to London to watch it, I would really
be kind of amazed at the all of the stage craft.
And I'm sorry, that's where my head goes. I think
the acting looks good. This is one of the kids
from It Isn't It Isn't.

Speaker 2 (57:26):
When I was listening, I was like, at least some
of these people are clearly English actors doing an American accent,
because it doesn't sound right to me. Let me, let
me double chuck.

Speaker 1 (57:38):
Nope, he was not from it at all. He just
kind of reminds me of one of the kids.

Speaker 2 (57:45):
From from the most recent films.

Speaker 1 (57:51):
Yeah, but okay, So to be fair, when you're like
this is one of the prior kids are You're not
caught up on Stranger Things, right.

Speaker 2 (57:57):
Though, I am not. I never got past the first season.

Speaker 1 (58:02):
So this will be a slight spoiler for you, Jonathan.
I just wanted to double check myself to make sure
I'm correct. The main character of this story is the
kid who eventually becomes Vekna.

Speaker 2 (58:13):
Oh wow in the season. I did not know that
that was one of the kids that that that.

Speaker 1 (58:20):
I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. It's a spoiler. You
can edit in a giant spoiler alert if you.

Speaker 2 (58:25):
I mean, no, You've only just spoiled it for me.
I don't know if any of our listeners have also
not watched beyond the first season, but it's just spoiled
for you, know, your beloved co host, who's here on?

Speaker 1 (58:35):
You warn you that?

Speaker 2 (58:38):
It wasn't a warning it was it was you weren't
warning me so much as you were alerting me that
you were going to spoil it.

Speaker 1 (58:45):
Okay, Well, I'm sorry.

Speaker 2 (58:47):
Who's an editor for this show? Who edits? Yeah? So,
no matter what, I was gonna have to hear it.

Speaker 1 (58:58):
I guess that makes sense, so maybe so, But I mean,
in season four this, this is something that they talk
about okay throughout the season. But yeah, so it's it
is just telling that character's story. It's telling Henry Kreole's story, gotcha.

(59:18):
But it's still totally worth the watch. I actually quite
enjoy I think season two was my least favorite season
of Stranger Things, but they all feel so very different
to me.

Speaker 2 (59:28):
Yeah, I it's I need to get better about this
because the list of things that are that I kind
of put off to the side and then just never
went back to is so long. And it's not that
I don't want to go back. It's that the longer
I wait, the more it feels like it's work. Right.

Speaker 1 (59:49):
Yeah, well, I mean so like in some of the things,
it's hard because you're like, well, I'm going to go
back to this, but then I'm going to have to
go back to it again in another you know, six months.

Speaker 2 (59:57):
Or yeah, or I need to start over because I
don't remember all the threads anymore.

Speaker 1 (01:00:04):
So, like I didn't finish season of one of Lost
in Space, and I wanted to because I also want
to watch season two, but now I have to go
back and watch all of season one. I did not.
I haven't seen the very last episode of Lock and Key,
and now I'm afraid I have to go back and
watch all of the final season. To watch the final episode.

Speaker 2 (01:00:23):
It correct me if I'm wrong, Ariel, And maybe I am,
but I could have sworn, didn't you like hold out
against watching Stranger Things for a long time because you
were worried it was too scary.

Speaker 1 (01:00:33):
I I tried to watch the first episode by myself
like twice, and it was too scary. And finally it
hit like a saturation point in our culture where my partner,
who I love and tries a lot of shows with me,
but a lot of shows if like the first of
the second episode don't grab him. Because I do have

(01:00:56):
vastly more interests than he does, I don't make him
watch it. You know, I made him watch almost the
I made him watch the entire first season of Doctor
Who with me, and he didn't like it. So I
haven't made him watch anymore. And he wasn't interested. He
had watched the first episode two and was like, it
feels like one of those shows where they're like, hey,
remember this nostalgia. I think he had got burned by

(01:01:20):
oh okay, well, like the first episode is all about like, hey,
things were wacky when we did it back debt then
and then here's all the creativity of how we make
an ad and then it kind of left all of
those things and just, uh, just turned into a drama show.
So I think he was a little bit wary because
of that, and then just the whole like, hey, remember

(01:01:42):
all this nostalgia thing. He was like, that's not really
good story. But he sat through the first season with
me and ended up liking it that like the more
you went into it, kind of in the same way
I feel like Fallout the first I liked the first
two episodes, but I definitely feel the show gets exponentially
better as it goes along. So he eventually watched it,

(01:02:03):
and then he really enjoyed it and ended up watching
all the seasons with me and has even gone back
and watched the seasons without me. But I can handle
it now, But when it first came out, it was
not knowing what to expect. It was too scary for
me to get into. Kind of like I had to
watch Scream one twice because the first time I couldn't
get through the beginning part with Drew barrymore understandable.

Speaker 2 (01:02:25):
It's a pretty intense sequence. Well, if you're in London
and you go to the Phoenix Theater and you catch
Stranger Things the first shadow, let us know what you
thought about it, because I don't I don't currently have
plans to be in London anytime super soon, so I
don't know that I'm going to be able to catch this.

Speaker 1 (01:02:45):
I wouldn't hate being in London super well.

Speaker 2 (01:02:47):
Neither would I. I just don't think it's going to happen.

Speaker 1 (01:02:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:02:52):
Yeah, so we got we got several more things to
get through and I want to get through them, so
we're going.

Speaker 1 (01:02:58):
To We'll do it.

Speaker 2 (01:02:58):
We'll do it quicker, quicker, Yeah, we'll see. But next up,
we have a trailer to what If, an immersive story
which definitely gets set in the MCUs what If Animated
series universe kind of thing, but it's not something you're
going to be able to watch on television or on
your smartphone or on a tablet. The only way you

(01:03:20):
get to experience this is if you're one of those
people who shelled out at least three five hundred dollars
for an Apple Vision pro headset because it's an augmented
reality series. Boo.

Speaker 1 (01:03:33):
There are other augmented reality headsets you could have and
play it on. That's just mean.

Speaker 2 (01:03:39):
Yeah, I mean, on the one hand, Apple needs to
have like various applications custom made for the Vision pro
to justify anyone purchasing it, because yeah, why would you
buy this incredibly expensive piece of technology if there's nothing
to run on it. It's like buying a video game

(01:04:00):
console but there are no video games out for it. It
would make no sense, right, So on the one hand,
I get it, Like I get the incentive for Apple
to have this happen. I'm guessing they must have dumped
a truckload of money over on Disney's front lawn, because otherwise,
why would Disney spend the time and resources to make
this for what they know would have to be a

(01:04:23):
small audience, Like we're talking at most around half a
million people who have one of these things.

Speaker 1 (01:04:34):
Yeah, yeah, you know what, though I would, I wouldn't.
I bought a VR headset in December, and I didn't
buy an Apple one. I don't own any Apple products.
I'm gonna be all honest here. Yeah, I'm an android girl.

Speaker 2 (01:04:47):
But in more ways than one, she actually has a
robot brain.

Speaker 1 (01:04:54):
Yep, you can hear the whir of the servers inside. Uh,
this is going to be the future, saying uh yeah, No,
I like, I get it, but also I don't get
you know what, I don't get paying more for Apple
because I'm a cheap, cheap girly. I'm like, then I

(01:05:16):
can only use proprietary things to Apple. Yeah, and it's
more expensive and I have to update it more often,
and I'm like, that's just it's nope. I know a
lot of people love Apple, and I have a lot
of actors who are like, oh, you should switch to
Apple because it's easier to edit these things. You've got
all these tools for like your auditions and stuff, and
I get that, not to.

Speaker 2 (01:05:36):
Mention that your text messages won't be popping up in
blue anymore. Yeah, yeah, because the whole I message thing. No,
I'm the same way. I don't. I'm a I'm a
PC Android kind of feller. So I don't have Apple either.
And there is definitely an Apple tax that you pay

(01:05:56):
on top of stuff, Like, they make great products, but
they're expensive for what they are already, and then they
get more expensive because it's Apple. The vision pro is
one of those things where I feel they're still trying
to argue it's a solution that's still looking for a problem.

(01:06:18):
Like I don't think a lot of people have tons
of use cases where an augmented reality headset would solve
a real issue they have. It would just be another
way to do stuff, which I don't think is a
strong enough argument to get people to buy something that's
that expensive. Now, for the longest time, everyone has said, well,

(01:06:42):
the Vision Pro is like, that's like the debut product,
and the later ones will be scaled down, they won't
have as many features and they'll be less expensive. But
the question is will that version still be interesting enough
for people to actually buy when they know they're not
getting the full thing? Right, Like, it may be that, yeah,

(01:07:05):
i'd get the Vision Pro if it weren't thirty five
hundred dollars, if it were closer to like a smartphone,
then maybe i'd buy it. But if you tell me, okay,
we've got you a version that you can buy, but
it's lacking all these other features that are only in
the Vision Pro, then you're like, well, now you're trying
to sell me something that's not as valuable to me.

Speaker 1 (01:07:27):
At that point, spend a fraction of the money and
get a decent VR headset like a Medaquest or Yeah.
I understand you may not want to buy a Medicquest
because you may not want to support that company, but
you know there are other headset companies out there that
are less expensive.

Speaker 2 (01:07:41):
Yeah, but the the trailer does look neat like it's
It looks like it would project the view of animated
characters within your actual environment. There's a bit where someone's
doing the hand gesture of swirling their hand in a
big circle to create a portal a Lah Doctor Strange
or Wonger's which makes me wonder if if it means

(01:08:04):
you're going to get the MCU's premiere party girl to
show up, because that would be awesome. That would be awesome.

Speaker 1 (01:08:12):
But yeah, you are the No, you are the the
MCU's premiere party girl in that game.

Speaker 2 (01:08:16):
Yeah, my name is Jonathan with a Y. But it's
not where you think. But yeah, I thought, I thought
the trailer looked interesting, but it's a I think it's
almost a non starter because it's the Apple Vision pro.
I just I can't imagine there's going to be a
large enough audience for it to have any sort of

(01:08:38):
follow up and it means that most people are never
going to experience the story, which is kind of a bummer.

Speaker 1 (01:08:44):
Yeah, it looks like the people who worked on it
did a really good job.

Speaker 2 (01:08:47):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, no shade on them.

Speaker 1 (01:08:50):
Yep. Sadness, Well, let's go from sad to scared because
those are similar emotions.

Speaker 2 (01:08:57):
Yeah. I made Ariel watch another horror trailer, this time
for a movie called Never Let Go, which is coming
out in September. September twenty seventh, and really scary and Yeah,
it looks interesting like there's obviously been some sort of
apocalyptic event that looks like it might be paranormal in nature,

(01:09:18):
like there's there's stuff in the woods and it wants
to get you and when you. It centers around a family.
Halle Berry plays the mother, and she has two boys,
right and yes, And whenever they have to go out
and forage for stuff, they each tie a rope that

(01:09:39):
leads back to the house and they're told to never
never let go of that rope, thus the title, and
as the trailer reveals, things do not go as planned.

Speaker 1 (01:09:53):
Yeah. It I can't really tell what exactly the bad
guy is in it. It does feel very super natural.
It kind of gives me like, I didn't watch Arcadian,
but I did watch the trailer for it that Nicholas
Cage one with the two with the two boys. Yeah,
maybe I'm just reminded of it because of the like
they they also hole up in their house and it's
a family of three with a parent and two kids.

(01:10:15):
Like that meets bird Box well in.

Speaker 2 (01:10:18):
A little bit of a quiet place too.

Speaker 1 (01:10:20):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:10:21):
Yeah, I feel like there's almost a subgenre of movies
that all kind of belong to the same general family
like that. Like, it's interesting to me when movies do this,
particularly in the horror genre, where you'll get into these
cycles where it's not the same story, but you can
tell like they're dealing with similar premises. So in this case,

(01:10:42):
it's the small family post apocalypse, depending upon each other.
There's something out there that's gonna get them. But like
a few years ago, the big subgenre in horror was
you think your host's house is haunted, but guess what
turns out Grandma lives in the water.

Speaker 1 (01:11:01):
I don't like that either.

Speaker 2 (01:11:03):
Well I didn't say it was good. I just said like,
there were a ton of movies that had someone's living
in the walls of your house as the actual thing,
Like it's always done in a way where it's supposed
to be. You're supposed to think it's paranormal, but it
turns out Nope, it's a dude living in It's Bruno
living in the walls of your house.

Speaker 1 (01:11:22):
Well, okay, okay, that I don't like. I don't now
every time I hear a noise, Jonathan, because I avoid horror.

Speaker 2 (01:11:31):
Generally, you're either gonna think it's someone in the house
or there's something outside that's gonna get you if you're
not tied to your home. Yes.

Speaker 1 (01:11:37):
Yes. Also, when I was trying to remember the name Arcadian,
I looked up Nick Cage horror movie and apparently there's
one where he's an FBI agent chasing a serial killer
coming out this year called Long Legs, and those pictures
scared me.

Speaker 2 (01:11:53):
I'm sad. I looked at You've got to be careful
to Google when we're in the middle of recording.

Speaker 1 (01:11:58):
But I like doing it. It makes me seem like
I'm smarter.

Speaker 2 (01:12:02):
Than I Well, let's move on to something that I
feel you'll have a lot to say about. Because we
watched we got the full trailer first trailer for Beetlejuice
the sequel, So Beetlejuice, Beetlejuice. What did you think of
this trailer?

Speaker 1 (01:12:17):
Three times?

Speaker 2 (01:12:18):
Three times? Yeah, it's fine.

Speaker 1 (01:12:22):
Now, Yeah, I liked it. I liked it more than
I thought I would, and I felt like Michael Keaton
brought his energy up from the teaser trailer.

Speaker 2 (01:12:31):
Yeah. Yeah, it's funny that they I wish they didn't
repeat a gag that was in the first movie. There's
a specific gag that they repeat, and when I saw that,
first I thought, well, I wish you hadn't shown this
in the trailer, and second I thought, well, I kind
of wish you hadn't done it at all, because it
starts to remind me of like those Mike Myers movies,

(01:12:54):
like where he'll do the same style of physical comedy
in every movie that he's in.

Speaker 1 (01:12:59):
Yeah, yep, I think I know the gag you're talking about.
And I had the same reaction.

Speaker 2 (01:13:03):
Yeah, the whole, the whole, like you want to see
the whole scary thing, like you know what I'm talking Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:13:09):
Yeah, they did it in the play, and I loved
it in the play because I'm like, well that was cool.
I didn't you know, that was a cool stage effect.
But yeah, when I saw it in this, I'm like, oh,
you've already done that. But honestly, my biggest concern with
the trailer is that there's a lot more like Sandworm action,

(01:13:29):
and uh I think it's CG. It feels more CGI
than and I could just be in a sleepy delirium
in the trailer. It seemed more CGI than like stop
motion to me. Yeah, and I didn't like that as much.

Speaker 2 (01:13:43):
Yeah, there is a certain charm, a janky charm that
comes with stop motion animation, and uh it, I do
prefer that to CGI. Certainly. I'm amazed that they didn't
do some sort of gag that made it feel like
a poking fun at Dune, considering how big a hit

(01:14:07):
Dune has been, and just like the whole sandworm thing
with Dune, I'm amazed they didn't do a joke. But
maybe that'll end up being in the movie, who knows,
or maybe they'll resist that urge. I hope they do.

Speaker 1 (01:14:19):
Yeah, I hope that the movie's surprising me too, and
we don't know what happens.

Speaker 2 (01:14:23):
Yeah, Yeah, it's other than Lydia's daughter Astrid appears to
not have much of a concern about her mother's warnings,
which is pretty typical of you know, kid who's going
through their own kind of existential crisis. I mean, goodness,

(01:14:44):
dos Lydia did the same thing the first film, So yeah,
I'll be I'm eager to see it. It's I think
I liked it more than I expected. I still feel
like this is a movie that they had come out
ten years ago, I would have been far more eager
to see it.

Speaker 1 (01:15:05):
Yeah, yeah, I think I agree.

Speaker 2 (01:15:10):
Okay, Well, what about the trailer for the series Phantasmas,
which is scheduled to come out on HBO on June seven.

Speaker 1 (01:15:22):
I don't think it's for me. I think there's too
much literal, potty humor in it.

Speaker 2 (01:15:28):
There's a bit where they actually touched the water in
a toilet.

Speaker 1 (01:15:31):
There's several toilets in the trailer, and I'm like, there's
too much focus on toilets. It just I don't know.
It looks bizarre and quirky and weird, and I love that,
and I love all the guest stars they have in it.
It just also feels like it might be a little
raunchy for me.

Speaker 2 (01:15:48):
I'm still trying to get like a handle on like,
how surreal and dream like is this series going to be,
because the trailer makes it look really really kind of
surreal to the point where it may not be able
to hook me just because it's not concrete enough. The

(01:16:08):
premise is just weird. The main character is looking for
a gold oyster earring and somehow these stories are a
result of that. And yeah, it's very dream like like
I said, And.

Speaker 1 (01:16:25):
The character has like some sort of really bizarre synesthesia.

Speaker 2 (01:16:29):
Yes, yes, yeah, and they actually kind of communicate that
about how how numbers have weight to them and that
kind of stuff. Yeah, I will probably give it a shot,
but if the first episode is so far out there
that I can't really feel like I've got got an

(01:16:51):
anchor point, I don't know that I'll stick with it.

Speaker 1 (01:16:55):
Yeah, I look forward to hearing your review because it's
the trailer. I watched the trailer and I almost put
it in our lineup, and then I was like, I
just don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:17:07):
Yeah, I just don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:17:09):
So I'm glad you put it in there, and I
look forward to hearing your review about it, because I'll
probably based on whether I give it a shot, off.

Speaker 2 (01:17:16):
To me like if it if it feels makes me
feel more like it's like this is the movie equivalent
of a Meo Wolf exhibition that I'm like, I'm in,
I'm ready to see it. But if it's if if
there's even less to grab onto than a meow wolf exhibit,
which is not a lot, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:17:35):
I mean like there's a lot to grab on at Wolf,
but it's hard to get it in order.

Speaker 2 (01:17:38):
So yeah, it's yeah, because it's I mean, that's the
downside to it being kind of like a free flowing
experience where you have no idea in what order people
are going to encounter the story, and uh, you know,
for some people they might encounter the story in such
a way that's really compelling, and other people just be

(01:18:00):
really frustrating. So we'll have to see. Uh. We got
a couple of stories here that are sort of about
trends and predictions for films that are going to be
a hit at the box office, And in one case,
we're talking about a movie that seems to at least

(01:18:23):
imply that maybe people aren't so burnt out on superhero
films as they thought they were.

Speaker 1 (01:18:29):
Yeah, which is AMC has selled more day one tickets
than they have for any other R.

Speaker 2 (01:18:39):
Rated movie already for what movie, Ariel, you have to say.

Speaker 1 (01:18:42):
Oh do I got people can't read my mind? Steppool,
it's Steppool and Wolverine.

Speaker 2 (01:18:48):
Yeah. Yeah, so this that's been doing gangbusters business, Like
the whole thing of getting people to buy tickets ahead
of time, Like that's been a for a while now.
It's not that big of a surprise, although I don't
remember it being so far out as this, Like this

(01:19:08):
is when it's more than a month out from when
the movie comes out. To me, that's a surprise.

Speaker 1 (01:19:13):
It's just about two months now. So it comes out
July twenty fifth, which is in two months tomorrow.

Speaker 2 (01:19:19):
Yeah, so that's to me, like that's a long lead
up time to buy a ticket to a movie.

Speaker 1 (01:19:26):
It is. And you know, like like I get it
because I am more excited for Deadpool and Wolverine than
I have been for other things. And part of that is,
you know, Hugh Jackman's coming out of retirement as Wolverine. Yeah,
not that the actor has retired. And it's fun and
it's interesting, it's novel because we get to see how
they poke fun at Disney, right, and like how far

(01:19:49):
they can push that line so I get it, and
I get the appeal there. I don't know if the
movie will hold up to all of the hype. I
hope it does.

Speaker 2 (01:20:00):
Yeah, and part of me thinks, like, oh, maybe I
should go ahead and buy a ticket, because like, I
don't want stuff spoiled for me for that movie. I want, like,
if there's going to be a big surprise cameo in
that film, I want to be able to see it
and just experience it without having read about it. Thanks. Yeah, thanks,

(01:20:25):
But yeah, if there's a big if there's a big
twist or a big reveal or a big cameo, like
if Robert Dunny Junior shows up as Iron Man and
part of that movie, then I would definitely want to
see it, right. I would not want to hear about
it and then see it. So part of me is
wondering if I should also take the plunge and buy

(01:20:47):
a frickin' ticket to this movie that doesn't come out
for two months. But I don't always know what I'm
doing next week.

Speaker 1 (01:20:54):
So yeah, I'm in the same boat. I'm in the
same boat. I did see an article where they're like this,
this MCU character makes a surprise appearance and blah blah
blah and this new trailer and I'm like, no, it
was in the first trailer, and you're fine and shut up.

Speaker 2 (01:21:09):
It's one of those clickit articles.

Speaker 1 (01:21:12):
Yeah, it was really annoying, and one.

Speaker 2 (01:21:13):
Where one where they don't tell you who the surprise
cameo is until you're like five paragraphs down and you've
scrolled past four different ads and.

Speaker 1 (01:21:22):
It's barely a cameo and it was in the first
full trailer. So whatever, You apparently know what I'm talking about.

Speaker 2 (01:21:29):
Un An Man. Yeah, okay, Yeah, that's clearly ant Man's
giant body in the trailer.

Speaker 1 (01:21:40):
I mean, he mentions it. But to me, saying, hey,
we think this is going to be a really big
box office because of how many pre sale tickets we've
already sold, and being transparent about that makes a lot
of sense. Inside Out is also saying it's going to
have the biggest box office inside Out too in forever,
except for they're not explaining how they're getting those metrics.

(01:22:02):
So to me, that feels like they're saying, if we
say it, it'll happen. If we tell people it's going
to be the biggest box office event, people are gonna
be like, I can't miss it and they're gonna buy.

Speaker 2 (01:22:10):
T I mean, my guess is that it's similar in
that they're tracking pre sales, and what they're doing is
they're extrapolating how many ticket sales they think they're going
to have day of based upon how many tickets have
been pre sold. But that's just a guess. It's not clear.
We're doing this from an article that was in Deadline

(01:22:32):
about how there's these predictions that Inside Out to is
trending to be this big hit for Pixar, which would
be a nice turnaround for the company because the last
couple of movies they put out have not performed super
well at the box office.

Speaker 1 (01:22:45):
Yeah, but the only like, the only concrete information we
have as to how they're getting these figures, which you're right,
it's probably those things we just don't know, is that
they did premiere the first thirty five minutes of Inside
Out to a CinemaCon and apparently it got a good reception.

Speaker 2 (01:23:04):
But then, you know, no big surprise. Those are delightful
characters and Pixar's very good at animation. So the question
is will those delightful characters and animation translate into an
actual box office hit. I mean, like, was it Elemental?
Is that what the name of the other one was? Yeah,

(01:23:25):
like that one. The trailers look cute and everything, and
it felt very Inside Out meets Zootopia ish to me,
but folks just didn't go see it.

Speaker 1 (01:23:36):
Well, it wasn't marketed well because they made it feel
very Zootopia meets Inside Out ish, and apparently that's not
what the story was at all, So they're they're bad
on that. Sometimes marketing is so dumb.

Speaker 2 (01:23:49):
Yeah, yeah, And that brings us back to the Jenny
Nicholson video about the Star Wars Hotel and how bad
their marketing was for that. Yeah. I mean, I hope
Inside Out too does well. Is not a Pixar film
that has me particularly excited. I'm sure it will be

(01:24:09):
very entertaining, but it's kind of like if they brought
out another Toy Story movie, which I know is another
one's in development now, but if they brought another Toy
Story movie out, I'd just be like, Okay, Like the
first two movies in the Toy Story series kind of
were enough for me. I thought the first one was
great as a joy of discovery, Like I wish I

(01:24:33):
could go back and watch Toy Story for the first
time again, because that was one of those movies where
it was so much fun entering into that world for
the first time. Toy Story two, I felt, had the
super emotional, gut punch story of Jesse that I really enjoyed.
I didn't hate three, but I didn't love it, and

(01:24:56):
for I just got bored as I was watching it, so.

Speaker 1 (01:25:03):
I didn't. I mean, we've talked about this. I didn't
watch four. I think three was my favorite.

Speaker 2 (01:25:07):
But which is that's cool, it's necessary, that's cool. I
don't know. Three just didn't work for me that well.
But but like.

Speaker 1 (01:25:15):
Once, it's a giant chase scene.

Speaker 2 (01:25:17):
Yeah, well, you can only have so many fury roads
out there. Uh. But yeah, I think I'd be more
excited seeing an all new Pixar.

Speaker 1 (01:25:28):
Good Dinosaur too.

Speaker 2 (01:25:30):
That's not all new, that's very old and was terrible
the first.

Speaker 1 (01:25:33):
Time Bad Dinosaur.

Speaker 2 (01:25:35):
I can't. I can't say for sure that all new
one would be a hit because Good Dinosaur was a
thing and Elemental was a thing. But yeah, I don't know.
I don't wish them ill, but I guess it's a
good thing that the box office is kind of recovering.

(01:25:59):
I still don't think we're past where we were before
the pandemic, but it's definitely better than immediately after the pandemic.

Speaker 1 (01:26:09):
Well, part of it is like we had a lull
because of the pandemic, and then we had a lull
in movies because of the writers and actors strike, and
now the IATZ is looming, So movies haven't really had
a chance to catch up, and I don't think they
are going to for a little bit.

Speaker 2 (01:26:26):
Well, yeah, and I think the delay from the I
think the writer and actor strike stuff, I think that's
we still I don't think have seen the biggest gap
from that, because just of how long post production typically takes.
There's probably a good gap coming up.

Speaker 1 (01:26:46):
We haven't seen it yet. But as actors as acting
community are feeling.

Speaker 2 (01:26:51):
Oh absolutely, I'm just saying audiences probably aren't as aware yet.
I mean, they know it's going to come. Something that
you might not know is coming if you go to
see a screening of Megalopolis, is that there's gonna be
a point in that movie where a real life human
being is gonna stand up in front of the movie
screen and talk to it, and it's gonna talk back.

Speaker 1 (01:27:12):
To them, it's one line.

Speaker 2 (01:27:16):
Yeah, it doesn't sound like it would be really that
big of a deal or important, and yet it's there.
So we talked about Megalopolis in a recent episode. We
talked about the trailer and how it was gonna screen.
It can and it did, And based on the things
I have read, it seems like the most frequent reaction

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has been one of either I don't know what I
just watched, or what I just watched was a bad movie,
but I'm very much intrigued by it, or man, that
was a bad movie.

Speaker 1 (01:27:52):
Yeah, that's what I've read too. I I'm sad by
that because there's a lot of really great actors who
I like who are involved in it, like Adam Driver
and at Aubrey Poza and I and Natalie Emmanuel. But

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and I don't want them to be involved in a
project that they look back on and go, oh why,
But it just yeah, this movie, what the heck is
going on?

Speaker 2 (01:28:20):
Yeah? It kind of sounds like this is one of
those those cases where an auteur filmmaker is able to
get everything they want and it turns out that that's
not necessarily a good thing. I am long maintained actually
that sometimes constraints and restrictions are the best thing for

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creativity because you have to find ways around them. And
Coppola funded this with his own money, Like he sold
off part of his winery in order to make this movie,
which I mean that is a huge constraint obviously when
you're spending your own cash, But it meant that he
didn't have anyone to answer to, right, there's no studio

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demanding he'd do things one way or another, And it
sounds to me like maybe that isn't the best for
this particular project. But as we said, like, there's even
a point in the movie at least there was it
can where an actor stood up with microphone in hand
and had a very brief interaction with the characters on screen,

(01:29:31):
so that you had a live theater component to this film,
which raises questions like would that be necessary for every
screening of this movie? If not, would you feel like
you were missing out on something? If you weren't missing
alan something, why was it in there in the beginning?

Speaker 1 (01:29:49):
Yeah, I can't imagine that they're going to keep that
in for regular Like, there's no.

Speaker 2 (01:29:54):
Way can you imagine can you imagine going to a
theater in rural Georgia and hearing someone with a rural
Georgia accent trying to interact with these characters who are
inostensibly a futuristic New York city that's now called New Rome.
It would be so weird.

Speaker 1 (01:30:13):
Yeah, I agree. And there are lots of like there's
a theater near me Springs Cinnamon Tap that does a
lot of like interactive fun stuff with movie hosts and
things like that. One of those people, a lot of
them are afters. A lot of them people that you
and I mutually know. But you know, you can do
that for a screening or two, but not every screening
for every day, although the movie's very long, so maybe

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you could only play it twice a day.

Speaker 2 (01:30:36):
Yeah. Yeah. I recommend checking out some reviews of this
film written by people who attended the screening and can
just to kind of kind of hear what their impressions were,
because since neither of us have seen it, we can't
give you our opinion. We can only pass along that
other people have said that it was real weird and

(01:30:59):
that I didn't come across anyone who actually liked it.
I think there might have been a few people who
appreciated the audacity of it. But that's not the same
thing as enjoying the movie.

Speaker 1 (01:31:11):
I feel like the Vogue article that you linked to
this show note gives a really good, thoughtful review of
what they saw.

Speaker 2 (01:31:23):
Yeah, and in that case, the person who saw it,
they enjoyed the experience. They didn't like the movie, but
they found the experience of watching the movie somewhat entertaining,
particularly based upon how the people around her were reacting
to the movie.

Speaker 1 (01:31:41):
Yeah. Yeah, So once I am finally able to sit
down and update the website, hopefully over this long weekend,
you will be able to. I mean, you can look
it up on Vogue, you all know how to google.
But I will include it in our show notes on
our website www dot Larger Drunk Collider. I could probably
speculate about this movie for a lot more time, like

(01:32:03):
is it going to beat out Soccer Punch for the
movie that I like watching the least? Or Children of
Men but.

Speaker 2 (01:32:10):
Still a great movie.

Speaker 1 (01:32:13):
Soccer Punch.

Speaker 2 (01:32:13):
No, Children of Men. I know that you and I
have a fundamental disagreement about that movie, and.

Speaker 1 (01:32:21):
That's fine, But but this has been another epic episode.
So uh, we're gonna We're gonna sign off and I'm
going to get myself some nappy time that.

Speaker 2 (01:32:34):
It's probably for the best and out of consideration for you, Ariel,
I'll just say that this week, there's nothing special you
need to do in order to get in touch with me.
If you have any questions, you know, just go to
your local forest and scream it into a tree.

Speaker 1 (01:32:55):
Okay. Yeah, and if you don't live near a forest,
if you look in a concrete jungle. You can message
us on social media on Facebook and Instagram and Discord
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at www dot large. Oh no, that's our website. You
can you can email us at large neurdrun pod at
gmail dot com, or go to our website www dot large,
nerd drun Collider dot com to check out all of
our show notes. Once I get that updated, get the
link to our discord if you need an invite. We

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love hearing from you guys, We love talking with you guys.
So thank you, Yes, thank you, And until next time.
I'm Ariel.

Speaker 2 (01:33:48):
Cast and I'm Jonathan. The secret is I was Vecna
all along Strickland. I'm so really bad for spoiling that
for you should. The large Nerdron Collider was created by
Ariel Caston and produced, edited, published, deleted, undeleted, published again.

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