LNC Joins the Hanson Family

Ariel saw Red One, Jonathan is going stir crazy, and we both have a whole lot of geek news to talk about! This one is a real bop! A real . . . Mmmbop!

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:10):
Hey, everybody, Welcome to the Larger Ner John Collider, the
podcast that's all about the geeky things happening in the
world around us and how very excited we are about them.
I am Ariel Caston, and key, as always is the
amazing and wonderful Jonathan Strickland.

Speaker 2 (00:24):
I would like to quote Frosty the Snowman by saying,
happy Birthday.

Speaker 1 (00:30):
It's your birthday, Jonathan.

Speaker 2 (00:33):
It's your birthday, Ariel, at least when we record this.
By the time the episode goes live, who knows.

Speaker 1 (00:40):
Yeah, yeah, it's my birthday. Jonathan wrote a very long, snappy,
wonderful post on my Facebook that made me get a
little misty eyed.

Speaker 2 (00:48):
It was as an awesome friend. We've known each other.
We've known each other for more than twenty years at
this point. We've been in multiple shows together. I've been
in multiple podcasts together. Yeah, so like that's a friendship.
Like honestly, Ariel, I think out of my group of

(01:09):
friends who are my close friends, like not just people
I know, but like friends I actually actively seek to
spend time with. You're the friend I've known the longest
out of all the close friends. Yeah, like everybody else
I met after I met you.

Speaker 1 (01:24):
Yeah, I know you. You used to have some closer friends,
but I guess you fell out of touch with them, well.

Speaker 2 (01:29):
A lot of them. A lot of them got they
did this thing that really makes it hard to stay
friends with people, and that they got pregnant. Ah, and
then a kid happens. And I don't know if you
know this, but sometimes when people have kids, they suddenly
become much harder to get in touch with and hang
out with and stuff. Yeah, that happens, particularly if you

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don't have kids, and you also are not interested in
doing kids oriented activities.

Speaker 1 (01:59):
Yeah. Yeah, See, that's the real trick. Is you just
need to never be available for anything anyhow, and so
all your friendship is online.

Speaker 2 (02:10):
I can't do it anymore. It's not enough, the online
friendship thing is. I find it unsatisfying. Yeah, and it
drives it drives me bonkers.

Speaker 1 (02:20):
Yeah, no, I know, like you need real human interaction.

Speaker 2 (02:24):
Not indeed online stuff. Now, what I also need, Ariel,
is perhaps for us to be able to do an
episode of Large Nurtron Collider that is shorter than two hours.

Speaker 1 (02:37):
Okay, I don't mind doing that today. I'm sorry we've
been running long.

Speaker 2 (02:42):
No it's it's entirely my fault. I added the thing about, hey,
let's talk about every show and movie coming out in
the not every, but lots of shows and movies coming out.

Speaker 1 (02:52):
Which, by the way, I read an article saying that
Jurassic Park Rebirth is going to go back to closer
to like the original three movies in its tone.

Speaker 2 (03:02):
So well, yeah, that's one third good news. Yeah yeah,
because the other two and three I never was a fan. Well, actually,
I don't think I ever watched the third one. The
two one was terrible, but but it was cheesy. I
mean it was. It was cheesy, which you could argue
is fine because the first movie was also cheesy. It
was just novel as well, so it had the benefit

(03:24):
of being new.

Speaker 1 (03:26):
Yeah. Yeah, the second one was passable, but I can't
tell you I've watched the second and third. I've watched
all but Jurassic Park dominion. At this point, I think,
and I can't tell you what happens in most of them.
They're dinosaurs.

Speaker 2 (03:41):
Well, Ariel, before we get any further and we start
talking about what we've watched this week, I have a
question for you.

Speaker 1 (03:48):
Oh my goodness.

Speaker 2 (03:48):
Okay, so it's your birthday.

Speaker 1 (03:52):
Uh huh, you ask my age, I'm not answering.

Speaker 2 (03:55):
That's not what I was going to ask you. A
gentleman knows better, and so do I. So my question
for you is what is a What is a geeky
gift you have received at some point in your life,
whether for a birthday or otherwise that means a lot
to you.

Speaker 1 (04:14):
Well, I had this really great friend give me a
Kermit the Frog shirt once from Disney.

Speaker 2 (04:18):
Yeah, just before you were told to throw all your
clothes away.

Speaker 1 (04:21):
I kept it.

Speaker 2 (04:22):
Anyhow, I was very pleased with that.

Speaker 1 (04:24):
Yeah, that that meant a lot. Gosh, I guess also.

Speaker 2 (04:31):
Like the.

Speaker 1 (04:34):
It's hard, gifts mean a lot to me, regardless of
whether geeky or not, or big or little, because it
really is the thought.

Speaker 2 (04:42):
That counts, right right, It's a demonstration of someone's care
for you as a person.

Speaker 1 (04:47):
Yeah. Yeah, But I mean I'll also say, like getting
to go see Beetlejuice on Broadway was a really cool gift.

Speaker 2 (04:54):
That's fantastic. It's a great option.

Speaker 1 (04:56):
Yeah, yeah, choice, Yeah, exponential stuff is kind of fun.
Special breaks, yeah for sure. And then I got you
can't see it in my background. I don't think but
I got a really cool Lego film camera last year,
which was fun. Yeah that's what the meat nice and

(05:20):
there's a little guy inside. Yeah, but I mean it
really is the thought that counts. Like I still have
cards from my students from when I taught daycare.

Speaker 2 (05:29):
That's cute.

Speaker 1 (05:30):
Yeah, so they my students don't remember me anymore because
it's been so long. Oh dear God.

Speaker 2 (05:35):
But yeah, but you can brandish the card and say
you you wrote this to me.

Speaker 1 (05:43):
Yeah. Yeah, Well, like I did an artsy performance?

Speaker 2 (05:47):
Was it?

Speaker 1 (05:48):
When?

Speaker 2 (05:48):
Was it for?

Speaker 1 (05:50):
Was it for a Dragon Con?

Speaker 2 (05:51):
Artsy? By the way, is Atlanta Radio Theater Company?

Speaker 1 (05:54):
It was? It was around Halloween and I did an
Atlanta Radio Theater Company show And one of my former
students is now a full adult and was in that
show with me.

Speaker 2 (06:05):
Wild Yeah that's where you're like, the passage of time
is a cruel, mischievous jerk.

Speaker 1 (06:12):
The thing is like if like when you say our
friendship is twenty years, it does. It's not like it
feels like our friendship is new or only like five
years old. It feels like we've been friends for a
very long time. But that very long time, to me
is not quantifiable. Because if you've had a twenty year
mark on it, that just doesn't seem right.

Speaker 2 (06:28):
Well, yeah, and technically more than twenty years, because but
you know what I mean. But yeah, but like also
in the post I mentioned, and I think we've talked
about this before, is that you know, we first met
on the cast of the Georgia Renaissance Festival, but that's
not where we really became friends because we just didn't
hang out at all. We were both on cast, but

(06:50):
you know, I was mostly hanging out with either people
who had been on cast for years already or with
other people who are in the Shakespeare and otherwise I
wasn't like fraternizing with the the newer members of the cast. Yeah, yep,

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but technically we met like twenty four years ago.

Speaker 1 (07:15):
So yeah, it only just a couple of years for
us to like connect and be friends.

Speaker 2 (07:21):
So yeah, yeah, Well let's talk about stuff that we've
seen since the last time we recorded. And it's easy
for me because I ain't seen nothing. I if I did,
I don't have any memory of it. I was going
to I was going to joke and lie to you
and tell you I went and saw Craven the Hunter,
but Ultimately I was like, no, I can't back that up.

Speaker 1 (07:40):
I would have grilled you about it.

Speaker 2 (07:42):
Yeah, I know. And then I was like, oh, I can't.
I could lie for maybe thirty forty five seconds before
it would all fall apart. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (07:51):
Yeah, I did watch some stuff. Largely, it's been like
After Midnight, which is a late night show on CBS
where they bring on panelists and they talk about stupid
internet memes that because who hosts that, Yeah, it's Taylor
Tomlinson and it oddly has had a lot of volap
with a lot of dropout guests recently. And then Pete Holmes,

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who has also been on Dropout but is also just
flip and hilarious. Vinnie Thomas and Pete Holmes are like
my favorite and Maria Bamford are my favorite panelists on
that show.

Speaker 2 (08:23):
That's great.

Speaker 1 (08:25):
Yeah, but so a lot of After Midnight. But I
did watch the first episode of Skeleton Crew, which is
the the Goonies meets.

Speaker 2 (08:33):
Star Wars, Yes, which your friend which our mutual friend
Crispy said, it's so much more than Goodies meets Star Wars.

Speaker 1 (08:40):
It probably is. I I haven't gotten past the first
episode yet, not but not for a lack of wanting
just for a lack of like time time time to
like sit down, and like, I I've had time to
watch other things, because I've watched two other things, but
it's like I want to sit and I want to
pay close attention that. But also sometimes I'm like, well,

(09:02):
I have this amount of time and so I want
to fill that. So I do plan on watching more
Skelting Crew. It was fun. It was good. It definitely
like it starts off pretty action packed and a little
bit scary, and then it goes to very like kitty
K K I D D I E not K I

(09:23):
T T Y very few cats.

Speaker 2 (09:27):
It was when the run Tom Tugger showed up, I
was really confused.

Speaker 1 (09:31):
Yeah, but it was fun. I watched the latest Time Quangle,
which is the dropout Dimension twenty touring show where everybody
rolls basically like they have like a little bingo cage
and whatever ball comes out is what character they've played
from a past campaign that they're playing in this game.

Speaker 2 (09:51):
So they're mixing and matching characters from different campaigns and settings.

Speaker 1 (09:55):
Yeah, yep, and it was funny and it was good.
It was the best one of the time Quingles so far,
I think because it it fit together the best, and
I feel like you could enjoy it even if you
hadn't watched those campaigns. And then last night I watched
Red One.

Speaker 2 (10:12):
Ah, that's the UB forty documentary, right, Red Red Woe
Stay close to Me.

Speaker 1 (10:21):
No, it's it's the JK. Simmons Dwayne Johnson Christmas movie. Yeah.
So I first of all, I really enjoyed the movie.
It suffered a little bit from like I had to.
I had to take a couple of breaks, so it
but just just because I had I got pulled away.

(10:42):
But it was delightful. It was fun. It was funny
and heartwarming. The beginning in the end was Santa Claus.
Like normally I'm like, get past Santa Claus, get to
the action. I had the exact opposite reaction this time,
like the bits of Santa Claus were amazing, glad, phenomenal.

Speaker 2 (11:00):
I'm glad to hear that you enjoyed it. I have
a feeling this is one of those that I'm probably
not going to catch unless someone else has it on
in the background or something.

Speaker 1 (11:08):
Yeah. I mean, I like Christmas movies, and you know,
I like action movies, and it has a good cast,
and then it's also got like people like Nikki Garza
and j Peterson in it. So that's awesome.

Speaker 2 (11:23):
That is awesome. Well, that's cool. I'm glad that you've
had some fun viewing experiences. Like I said, I can't
think of anything that I've watched, Like everything I've watched
has been just stuff I've already seen before, usually because
I'm doing something else and I don't want to have
new material on because all that will happen then is
that I'll be like, what wait, what did they just say?

(11:44):
And I'll scrub back like forty five seconds and I'll
just it'll be like I watched the same movie twice
in a row. So I didn't do it twice in
a row. I did it twice at the same time
because I had to keep going back and seeing the
last scene and I don't want to do that to myself.
And for those who are wondering, like why has Jonathan
so list listen and directionless, it's because my partner is

(12:05):
in Europe with her mom and I'm all alone here
with my dog and without someone else to talk to
and to bounce things off of, I'm starting to go
a little bit squirrely.

Speaker 1 (12:20):
I'm sorry, I'm busy this weekend and can't hang out
to help.

Speaker 2 (12:23):
It's okay. I'm going to an extremely exclusive party today,
an extremely exclusive party, yeah, my niece's birthday. And then
I'm going to hang out with a couple of friends
and we're gonna sing karaoke.

Speaker 1 (12:36):
That sounds like an amazing day, so.

Speaker 2 (12:39):
Should be nice. Well, how about we just mosey our
way on over to the thirty seconds or less area?

Speaker 1 (12:47):
Sure, and I will start. My first news article is
that the team behind Wallace and Grammat and Chicken Run
and Sean the Sheep and all of that is coming
up with a new Pokemon thing. They're doing like a
stop motion animated Pokemon thing. This won't be the first

(13:10):
stop motion Pokemon thing that came out earlier with Pokemon
Concierge on Netflix, but it'll be Ardman, which is the
group behind Wallasey Gramas. It'll be their first venture into
this genre.

Speaker 2 (13:24):
Wild Okay, Well, you know a lot of podcasts have
advertised for Casper mattresses, but Casper was just a ghost.
What if you wanted to sleep like a vampire, Well
now you can with the Nosfaratu sarcophagus bed yep. It
looks like a large sarcophagus straight out of Nosfaratu. It
weighs more than two hundred and fifty pounds. The lid

(13:45):
is foam, so you don't have to worry about being
prematurely entuned, and it'll just set you back around twenty
thousand dollars. Sweet dreams, you've filthy animals. Thanks.

Speaker 1 (13:57):
I hate it if you thought that after two years
Warhammer forty k was dead the TV show, not the game,
because the Kate will never die. Well, you're in luck.
It is not. There was a mini room, according to
sources recently where they talked about the creative direction for
the Warhammer series and that it has been greenlit. They

(14:21):
still don't have a show runner yet, but that is
great news for Henry Cavill, Henry Cavill's fans and people
who enjoy Warhammer m HM.

Speaker 2 (14:29):
The Hollywood Reporter says that Jeremy Allen White, star of
The Bear and the Iron Claw, is set to play
a character in the upcoming Star Wars movie The Mandalorian
then Grogu. Namely, he's rumored to play Rata the Hut,
son of Jaba the Hut Sadly, it doesn't sound to
me like they're just gonna have him show up as
a human and say, yo, I'm Jaba's kid, But instead

(14:53):
he'll actually be doing voiceover work for like a CGI hut.

Speaker 1 (14:57):
That is interesting. That's really interesting. If you are wondering
when I was talking earlier about Red One, how I
was able to stop it a couple of times, it's because, well,
it has already come to Prime video. It is still
in theaters, but now it is also free to Prime
subscription members. I heard somewhere that it was originally going
to be a streaming movie, so this may not be

(15:20):
a big move or a sign of it not doing well.
It has made one hundred and sixty five million dollars,
which puts it in the top thirty five grossing movies
of this year. However, its budget to make it was
more than that, So I hope that's not a litmss
of how well it performed.

Speaker 2 (15:41):
Yeah, well, maybe it'll have legs. Well. Before there was
the good Suicide Squad movie, there was the not so
good Suicide Squad movie. And now the story goes that
the studio interfered with director David Ayers cut of the
movie so much so that a studio that was better
known for making movie trailer made the final edit, and

(16:02):
in a response to fans who have been calling for
a director's cut of the original Suicide Squad movie, David tweeted,
I hope my real film can be shared one day,
but don't hold your breath because no one on the
studio side has actually said anything about it so far.
Maybe James Gunn will say, like, you know what, no
skin off my nose. Let's release it.

Speaker 1 (16:23):
As long as it's not five hours. I I think it,
like if I recall it didn't perform well in screeners.

Speaker 2 (16:31):
Uh no it didn't. But like also James Gunn directed
the good Suicide Squad movie, So.

Speaker 1 (16:39):
Yeah, yeah, for All Mankind, I don't know why I
started it that way. That's not where it needs to start,
so Verytt Carnahan, who plays young John Crease in Cobra Kai,
is going to be in season five for All Mankind,
where he plays a high school student on Mars. It's

(17:02):
it's kind of a story about if you if you
are not familiar with it, it's on Apple TV about
humanity didn't stop the space race and now we're on Mars.
I didn't know it was in season five, so.

Speaker 2 (17:15):
That's fun.

Speaker 1 (17:15):
But if you like Mars and you like Copra Kai,
well maybe maybe that actor will pull out a little
martial arts.

Speaker 2 (17:23):
Who knows on Mars where you can jump, where you
can jump three times as high Marshal's art. Oh very good.
I was just going to make a joke about how
the gravity on Mars is one third that on Earth.
All right, Well, Craven the Hunter is out now, after
being in previews and pulling in around two million bucks.

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Early early reaction has been let's say, mixed at best,
and it now sounds like Sony is ready to throw
in the towel on their expanded Spider Man cinematic universe.
The av Club reports that anonymous sources within Sony have
admitted that most of the movies in the universe just
aren't very good, and that the studio will stop pushing
secondary characters as protagonists and just focus on the next

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Spider Man movie in the short term.

Speaker 1 (18:10):
That might be good. I don't know so. Mike Flanagan,
who did the Hunting of Hill House and Midnight Mass
and some others that I don't remember because I haven't
watched them, is onboard to make a Clayface movie for
DC Studios. It'll be a feature film. It's officially gleek greenlit.

(18:33):
It's going to be a horror thriller tragedy, which Clayface's
story kind of is a tragedy if you watch outside
of the Harley Quinn story wise. Yeah, so that will
be interesting.

Speaker 2 (18:48):
Okay, Well, The Hollywood Reporter says that Marvel is preparing
a series of one shot comic book issues in which
the various iconic Marvel characters face off against a different
icon namely Godzilla. So apparently Godzilla will take on such
heroes as the Fantastic four thor the X Men, and
Spider Man in upcoming comic books next year, with the

(19:12):
stories themselves taking place in different time periods in the
Marvel universe. So this isn't just about a rowdy weekend
Godzilla had over in marvel Land.

Speaker 1 (19:25):
I have no clever segue. Austin Butler is going to
be playing the titular character of Patrick Bateman in a
new version of American Psycho by director Luca Guadagnino. It
is not going to be a remake of the Christian
Bale American Psycho it's going to be a new imagining

(19:46):
of it. I haven't seen the original, so I feel
like I have to watch that before I can watch
a new one.

Speaker 2 (19:54):
I no, okay, I would say it's not for you, Ariel.

Speaker 1 (20:00):
Okay, I trust you, but I don't have to. I
take it back. I don't have to watch it original.

Speaker 2 (20:05):
I'm sure you could handle it. I just don't think
you would enjoy it very much. All right. Well, we've
talked about intimacy coordinators a few times on this show.
Their job is to ensure that films and series that
include elements like nudity or simulated sex are done in
a safe and professional manner, and that no one ends
up feeling pressured or coerced into doing something that they're
not comfortable with. One story we did not cover when

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it happened is that they have officially joined the SAG
after a union, which means coordinators will have more job
security and access to benefits. Solidarity.

Speaker 1 (20:40):
Nice if you heard the car horn out there that
was also in solidarity, honk.

Speaker 2 (20:45):
If you support intimacy coordinators.

Speaker 1 (20:47):
Honk, honk okay. So, there was a pair of ruby
slippers that were worn by Judy Garland and the Wizard
of Oz that were stole like twenty years ago, stolen.
They were stole twenty years again, they weren't just still
they done got around got stall that were stolen around
twenty years ago. I'm assuming they got recovered. But they

(21:10):
sold at auction for twenty eight million dollars, which is
ridiculous for some old beat up, sequined red shoes. They
only estimated that they would sell for three million dollars,
So that's huge.

Speaker 2 (21:26):
Yeah, that's the second most expensive pair of shoes I
ever heard. So. The Game Awards were this week, and
taking home the top prize for a Game of the
Year was the platformer Astrobot, which I have not played,
but I have heard really great things. It won a
lot of other awards too, but other games that went
home with some trophies included Metaphor Refundasio for Best Narrative

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as well as Best Art Direction, Final Fantasy, vin Rebirth
for best Score and Music, Hell Divers two for Best
Ongoing Game, and Balatro for Best Independent Game, plus Best
Mobile Game in a couple of others I think. Plus,
there were tons of teasers, trailers, and announcements, and twenty
twenty five is looking to be a really big year
for video games.

Speaker 1 (22:10):
That's awesome because video game news kind of wasn't quiet,
But I will say, at least for me, wasn't interesting
for a good while.

Speaker 2 (22:20):
Yeah. Well, I think I think part of it is
that there's a I think part of it for me
is that there's this shift that's been happening toward independent
studios and independent game makers that it's really interesting to
me because I there aren't that many Triple A title

(22:43):
games that I find that compelling right now, Like they're
all most of them are like sequels to long standing franchises,
with a few exceptions like Naughty Dog has a new
ip called Intergalactic that's coming out. It's not like a
continuation of Last of Us are in Charted or anything
like that. But a lot of the Triple A games
are like Grand Theft Auto six or you know, the

(23:05):
next Assassin's Creed game or Call of Duty or whatever.
And I'm not as interested in those because while I'm
sure they'll be great, they'll look fantastic, they'll sound fantastic,
they'll have interesting gameplay, it's not like a new idea,
and I don't, you know, and I particularly don't like
the the meta storyline of the Assassin's Creed games. I

(23:27):
find it convoluted and confusing, so I would prefer to
see new stuff. So the flip side of that, though,
is that if you're looking at these little independent games,
most of the time they're not making headlines unless the
game just becomes like virally popular. So if you look
at the video game news, you're like, h it seems

(23:49):
like nothing's going on, But in fact, a lot's going on.
It's just going on at really interesting, smaller development studios. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (23:56):
Yeah, and like they're having games that come out that
I like. I like, I'm packing I cannot play because
I would die immediately and get so frustrated. But I
enjoy watching Seafoo.

Speaker 2 (24:05):
So I like Vampire Survivors. That's a great game. Do
you like that game, Vampire Survivors. Yeah, yeah, it's a
really great game. Yeah. It's really simple. Okay, So Vampire Survivors,
these survive vampires kinda I mean, it's more like various
undead things. So the way the game works is you
get your your It's like it's like almost like one
of those eight bit or sixteen bit style games, Like

(24:28):
it has the retro style of graphics. Your character automatically
fires whatever weapon it is that they have, and different
characters have different weapons, but they automatically fire it on
a recurring timed scale, and that time can actually increase
as you pick up different power ups, like you can
fire more frequently if you pick up the right kind

(24:50):
of power up, or you do more damage, or you
shoot more whatever it is that you shoot. And the
whole game is all about surviving wave after wave after
wave of enemies, and if you can survive for thirty minutes,
you ultimately get killed by death because you can't survive forever.
But time, each time you make a run, you can
unlock stuff that gives you access to new characters and

(25:13):
new levels and things like that, and so really the
game is all about maneuvering, like you're just really just
trying to move your character in such a way that
you're not going to get cornered and swamp swarmed by
all the bad guys while you're automatically firing your weapon,
and you know it, it's like a lot of those

(25:34):
style games. When you first start playing, it's a little
frustrating because it, you know, it takes you a while
to kind of get the hang of it. Plus, you
don't really have access to any of the cool stuff,
but as the game goes on, you get access to
the cool stuff and it comes real fun.

Speaker 1 (25:47):
Nice, nice, So it's a Rogue liked Rogue.

Speaker 2 (25:51):
Light sort of the game. The levels are not procedurally generated,
they're all pre rendered. They're endless. I mean, you could
keep walking in one direction forever and you're never going
to get to the end of the level. They might
loop around, although I don't think I've ever done that.
I don't think I've gone far enough for that to happen.
But it's kind of roguelike in the sense that you know,

(26:15):
you do gradually unlock other abilities and the capability of
giving characters a boost from the get go, Like like
you're like, oh, if I spend my points here, then
whatever character I choose is going to have twenty percent
more health next time. That kind of thing, gotcha.

Speaker 1 (26:36):
Well, it sounds fun. I probably would stink at that game,
but it sounds fun.

Speaker 2 (26:41):
It's actually it's actually not that hard. Once you play.
You have to play a few rounds to kind of
get the hang of it. But after that I got
to a point where I had unlocked a combination of
things where it's literally you could walk away from the
game like you could just your character's untouchable because anything
gets even close to you, it just gets obliterated. Well,

(27:04):
I played the game until it stopped being fun because
there's no point. I mean, it's like, where's the challenge?

Speaker 1 (27:12):
Yeah, yeah, well that's cool. Yeah. I like indie games.
I should pay more attention to indie game news. I
sometimes I tried to. We sometimes try to sneak indie
game news into this podcast, but it's it's hard.

Speaker 2 (27:26):
Yeah. Other other games you should check out, in particular
Aerial that I think you would dig Dredge. I think
you would really like Dredge okay, which is a love
crafty and fishing game.

Speaker 1 (27:38):
Yes, yes, I've heard of that.

Speaker 2 (27:39):
Yeah, Dredge is great. And then the other game that
actually has a tie in with Dredge, Dave the Diver.

Speaker 1 (27:47):
I've seen I've not played, but we've had Dave the
Diver played in my home.

Speaker 2 (27:51):
So it's a great game. That's half of it is
catching fish and the other half is running a sushi restaurant.

Speaker 1 (27:59):
I uh, I think that's delightful. I also want to
play along that line. I want to play Subnotica. It's
on my VR headset. It's we modited it, and now
it's very smooth, which means that it moves too fast,
and I get very motion sicko.

Speaker 2 (28:15):
I have real problems with motion sickness with VR. I
never thought I was going to be that guy, because
for the longest time I felt like I was ironclad.
But then I thought back to when I was a kid,
and I remembered, Oh, yeah, I remember that swimmy feeling
I would get if I were reading in the back
of the car for too long.

Speaker 1 (28:32):
Yeah. I get motion sick pretty easy with video games,
like even playing Portal, I have to take a drama meine, So.

Speaker 2 (28:40):
I mean I get it like it. That's how I
am now too. And I'm worse with simulated rides, like
rides that have screens, like even stuff that's relatively smooth
and simple, like Soaring at Disney World. If I've ridden
another simulated ride before I write, sorein, sorein is enough

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to put me over the edge of that point.

Speaker 1 (29:03):
Start Star Toars will get me sometimes, Yeah, that's that's
the worst of it. Or the really old ride that's
no longer there, the Body's ride, when you got caught
Body Wars, when you get caught in the heart beat.

Speaker 2 (29:16):
Yeah, that was like it was like, hey, how about
star Tours, but also we're gonna punch you in the kidneys.

Speaker 1 (29:23):
Yeah yeah. I did ride Mission to Mars recently and
came out that one. Fine, so that's good.

Speaker 2 (29:28):
Well, did you ride the orange side or the green side?

Speaker 1 (29:31):
The orange side.

Speaker 2 (29:32):
Okay, the wood that doesn't rotate, then that's no.

Speaker 1 (29:35):
Sorry, I rode the one that rotates whatever.

Speaker 2 (29:38):
I thought that was the orange side, but I could
be right.

Speaker 1 (29:40):
I don't know. I just assumed that orange meant danger
and green meant go, so.

Speaker 2 (29:44):
That would make way more sense, honestly.

Speaker 1 (29:47):
So, but I read, I read. I rode the actual
simulation simulation.

Speaker 2 (29:52):
So yeah, the one, the one that gives you the
G forces and stuff. Yeah, yeah, I've only ridden that
I think maybe twice with the G forces one. And
and it's true what they say. If you do ride
that ride, keep looking forward, don't look to You're gonna
sit there. You're gonna want to look to the side
because everyone's told you don't do it. You're gonna want to.

(30:14):
But that will that will ruin the next like two
hours at least of your Epcot experience, because you'll just
be like, I need to find a bench and I
need to lay down.

Speaker 1 (30:23):
They I mean, they pretty much put vomit bags directly
in your face when you go in it. So you
should just listen to them.

Speaker 2 (30:29):
Yeah, yeah, they they're not kidding around.

Speaker 1 (30:31):
Yeah, but that's fun. We didn't we weren't intending to
talk about a lot of video game news.

Speaker 2 (30:38):
Yeah, we actually didn't include any of the video game
trailers because we figured that if we had started doing that,
this episode would be three hours long. Because they did
a lot of trailers at the Video Game Awards this week.
I will say, if you are a fan of the
Witcher series of video games, the trailer for the Witcher
for I thought was spectacular.

Speaker 1 (31:00):
Yeah, there was also a game. Was it a part
of the Video Game Awards or separate thing that like
the Cozy Core games that all came out recently.

Speaker 2 (31:10):
I think that was like I think I think that
was specifically released to be kind of in conjunction with
I don't know if it was an official like partnership
or anything, but I know that it was essentially trying
to capitalize on the fact that the game awards are
this week?

Speaker 1 (31:25):
Gotcha? So many Capaberry games, so many.

Speaker 2 (31:28):
Games, capit bar bar Uh. Let's talk about stuff that
we did we put in the lineup, sure.

Speaker 1 (31:40):
The first of which is we got a trailer, not
just a teaser in the What's coming out from Marvel
thingy stinger, but an actual trailer for what of season three?

Speaker 2 (31:51):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (31:52):
They say it's the final eight episodes, So I guess
this is the final season for now. Anyway, for now,
it feels a little weird because there there's definitely some
like some through line in the on series, but a
lot of it is standalone episodes and you can do
those at nauseum infinitely. Maybe it's the last eight series

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for the current characters.

Speaker 2 (32:15):
Maybe I I still haven't seen series two. I haven't
seen season two of one. If I saw them, I
saw the first one and I really enjoyed it. I
just haven't watched season two yet. It's it's on my
list along with New Girl, which honestly, I should have
started watching that this week. So yeah, I haven't, I will,
I haven't. Yeah, I haven't seen season two, but I

(32:38):
did notice that in season one, like the last couple
of episodes did have like like it started off as
all being very self contained episodes, but by the end
they're starting to bleed into each other, So I guess
maybe that's it. But honestly, I think when they say
these are the final eight, it's it's you should take
that with a grain of salt, because assuming that the

(32:59):
Marvel Cinemat Universe persists, there will be opportunities to tell
other stories that did not happen in the MCU. Maybe
they just don't want to spend all their multiverse credit
in an animated series and they want to keep some
ideas reserved for potential live action movies.

Speaker 1 (33:19):
I mean that makes sense. I did see in the
what If season three trailer that there was I don't
remember her name, Kat Dennings, Cat Dennings. Yes, there was
Darcy and Howard the Duck, which just grabs me immediately.

Speaker 2 (33:42):
It's definitely Kat Denning's voice in it.

Speaker 1 (33:45):
Yeah, and then I think we saw Hory again, which
was the Native American the mohawk hero that they introduced
last year, which you haven't seen yet, but it's a
really fantastic episode.

Speaker 2 (33:56):
And they also teased a you wielding Storm.

Speaker 1 (34:02):
Yes, I'm for that. I am for getting some X
Men back into my Marvel. I really enjoyed the most
recent X Men cartoon.

Speaker 2 (34:13):
Yeah, but we've had a mutant in Marvel for a
couple of years now. That's true because Ms Marvel was
revealed to be a mutant, despite the fact that she
has no connection to.

Speaker 1 (34:21):
Mutine Scarlet Witch. Scarlet Witch and her brother are mutants,
and they introduced those all the way back in Egypt.

Speaker 2 (34:28):
But they're not. They weren't even Lissa as being altered
like that. You never really find out where their power.
I mean, presumably Hydra ended up experimenting on them and
creating them, but you don't really know.

Speaker 1 (34:42):
Yeah, I mean, but definitely there are immunes because like,
aren't her kids also X Men at certain points her.

Speaker 2 (34:50):
Oh like uh Wiccan and whatever the fast kid's name
is or whatever.

Speaker 1 (34:59):
Keep wanting to say SPEEDB. But that's a different Marvel.

Speaker 2 (35:01):
Totally different character.

Speaker 1 (35:03):
Yeah, totally different, A very sad character.

Speaker 2 (35:06):
But what if looks good? I like the trailer and
it makes me want to actually get off my button
watch season two, and I will once my partner returns
home from Europe.

Speaker 1 (35:16):
Yes, next we're going to talk about Okay, so not
only is it my birthday today. It is also Dick
Van Dyke's birthday. You know, everybody's like, who do I
share a birthday with? That is the coolest person I
share a birthday with is Dick Van Dyke, who turned
ninety nine today.

Speaker 2 (35:31):
I also share it with Steve Busimi.

Speaker 1 (35:34):
I mean, Steve A. Chevy's cool. But Dick Van Dyke
went out a little bit.

Speaker 2 (35:37):
Oh yeah, sure.

Speaker 1 (35:40):
But he recently, in preparation for his ninety ninth birthday,
he and his wife produced a seven minute long kind
of music video retrospective about family with Coldplay, where he
dances and they're singing and all of his family is there.
And I personally find it absolutely touching and what a
beauty full gift to give to his family.

Speaker 2 (36:02):
Yeah, it was very heartwarming and wholesome and also funny.
Dick Van Dyke's a very funny guy. Like he made
fun of his own age. They asked him to close
his eyes and think of loved ones and he said,
if I do this, I'm going to fall asleep at
my age. That's what happens. And he was just very
funny about it. He said, maybe I should I should
just not off in the middle of this but yeah,

(36:24):
it was really cute. He even did a little bit
of a dance where it was kind of a throwback
to his old Dick Van Dyke show. And yes, it
is really wholesome.

Speaker 1 (36:34):
Yeah yeah, and also inspiring because Dick van Dyke, I mean,
he does sometimes use a wheelchair or a cane or whatnot,
but he stays active and he takes care of himself,
and shouldn't we all aspire to be me.

Speaker 2 (36:49):
He's ninety nine and still cracking jokes like I can
only I could only hope I make it to that,
And am you know, just as sharp and funny and active.
So yeah, yeah, I like this a lot. It was
really sweet. I had seen it come up earlier in
the week but had not watched it, so I didn't
watch it until you put it on our lineup. And

(37:11):
I'm glad that you did because it made me watch it.
I really enjoyed it.

Speaker 1 (37:15):
I'm glad I recommend it to everybody. I in a
reverse turn of events, saw like all week, maybe the
last two weeks. This not the last two weeks, but
all week. The trailer time has no meaning. The trailer
for the Gorge. Yeah, the George, the George, The George,

(37:37):
hor The Jorge, The Garrage, No, The Gorge, which stars.

Speaker 2 (37:44):
On You Taylor Joy and Miles Teller.

Speaker 1 (37:48):
Thank you, Miles Teller. And I was like, I don't
want to watch this trailer, and then Jonathan put it
on the list and I'm kind of glad I did
because it looks really fun to me.

Speaker 2 (37:56):
Yeah, so yeah, I put it. I put it. It's
like how to flow by sniping at each other because
we talked about this. I remember we talked about this
when we had heard the concept for it, but we
had not seen anything about it, and we thought it
was a wild concept. But they Anya, Taylor Joy and
Miles Teller each play snipers who are stationed at towers

(38:21):
that are across from each other with a gorge in
the middle, and their orders are not to shoot at
each other, but rather to guard against things that are
in the gorge and trying to get out. So there's
some sort of monstrous thing or things that's inside the gorge,

(38:43):
and they are the first line of defense against anything
crawling out and potentially threatening humankind. And meanwhile, they start
to interact with each other in the limited ways that
they can, considering that they're both you know, apart from
each other because a gorge is in the middle, and

(39:04):
it looks kind of cute.

Speaker 1 (39:06):
It does. They aren't supposed to talk with each other either,
but they totally.

Speaker 2 (39:10):
Do because I mean, you're going to be by yourself
every day, day and day out. Eventually you're going to
be like, hey, so what's your view like?

Speaker 1 (39:18):
Yeah. One of the people who gives miles toward the
mission says that the gorge is the gate to Hell.
And when I was a kid, I read the Cooper
Kid Adventure series by Frank Peretti, which where a bunch
of like sci fi means Bible book fantasy sci fi books,

(39:41):
and one of them was the military guarding the gate
to literal Hell and these kids finding their way down there,
and it was kind of scary and kind of fun.
So this gives me that sort of vibe, but you know,
not in a religious aspect.

Speaker 2 (39:56):
Yeah, yeah, so it sounds fun. I think it looks
like it's such a weird high concept. But one, you know,
y'all know how I feel about my girl Anya Taylor Joy.
She can do no wrong in my eyes, and I'm
curious enough about this, and it does look like I
don't know, at what point in the film, maybe the
third act, things really start to pick up on the

(40:18):
action front. But I'm all for the longest protracted meet
cute in history as two snipers start to very slowly
interact with one another without being able to talk to
each other because they're too far apart.

Speaker 1 (40:35):
I think, I think this sort of story, and I
you know, I'm not the writer or director, and I
haven't looked at it. I would assume that it would
do better by like a two act sort of a
premise as opposed to a three act. So I know
that the Act one is going to be them getting
their Act two is going to be them developing a relationship.
In Act three is going to be the drama. But

(40:56):
I think I think if they brought drama in a
little earlier, like at the halfway point, I would give
both sides a chance to breathe.

Speaker 2 (41:05):
Well, you know, we saw the gorge, We saw hints
of a hellish landscape hidden by fog and the depths
of a chasm. We also got a trailer for a
different vision of hell, the latest in the twenty eight

(41:25):
Days Later series, the trailer for twenty eight years Later.

Speaker 1 (41:30):
Yeah, I think I've talked about previously. I enjoyed twenty
eight days later. It was definitely hard and very scary,
but I thought it was a really clever take on
the whole zombie trope. I don't really remember. I feel
like I watched twenty eight weeks later, but I don't
really remember it. There's a chance that I just told

(41:50):
myself I watched it to call my completionist brain.

Speaker 2 (41:55):
I was not.

Speaker 1 (41:56):
But I thought I was prepared for this trailer, and
I was not. This trailer is creepy.

Speaker 2 (42:02):
Yeah. No, they did a great job, especially with the
recitation of the poem in the background. Yes, it's Rudyard
Kipling's Boots. Boots, Boots is the poem. It's a poem
that is, it was about a specific group of British
soldiers and their experiences on forced marches. And the poem

(42:24):
goes from just the monotony of doing the same thing
over and over again, in this case marching, to the
point where how that monotony starts to impact your sanity.
And meanwhile, you're watching all these very this escalation of
dramatic and sort of horrifying clips related to the movie,

(42:45):
while that poem just gets louder and louder and man,
it was so effective.

Speaker 1 (42:50):
So effective. Whoever that voiceover artist is who read that
and completely went on that dive of sand loss deserves
an oscar. And the thing is, I'm not as familiar
with Rudyard Kipling's boots, so I had to look up
what it was, and at first I thought it was
someone just losing their mind. So that's how effective it is.

(43:14):
Like even without knowing the source material, it still hit
me hard.

Speaker 2 (43:19):
Yeah, no, you know what. I also was thankful for
a trailer that was so psychologically effective without making use
of the trope of let's take a children's song, slow
it down, move it to a minor key, and make
it creepy.

Speaker 1 (43:35):
Yeah, yeah, for sure. We know that from the trailer
and articles as well. We know Cillia Murphy will be back. Yes, Killian,
Killian Murphy. I'm so sorry. Killian Murphy will be back.
We think we see him as like an emancipated rage monster.

Speaker 2 (43:53):
But you mean an emaciated rage monster.

Speaker 1 (43:57):
Emancipated I don't know either way.

Speaker 2 (43:59):
I mean, I mean he could have been it could
have been otherwise kept in captivity and now has been emancipated.
But he's definitely emaciated. Yeah, that it's possible that there's
this one shot of a dramatically emaciated figure. And there's
been a lot of speculation that that, in fact is

(44:20):
supposed to be Silly and Murphy. And I'm like, since
that's how you pronounce it, Killian Murphy. And I was like,
I hope that's not true, only because if it is true,
I think it's a terrible, terrible mistake to include it
in the trailer. It should be it should be left

(44:41):
as a surprise in the film if that is supposed
to be Killy and Murphy's character. Also, I think it's
sad because I mean, I really want that character to
have made it.

Speaker 1 (44:51):
Me too, I have heard, I've written some articles I
haven't heard. I've written some articles that it is not
It looks similar to Killian Murphy, but it is not
his character. And again, I hope that's true as well,
because after going through the full events of twenty eight
days later, you would hope that he would have a
better idea of how to survive.

Speaker 2 (45:11):
Yeah, yeah, totally, because this is the issue I have
with follow ups and sequels and stuff like. Yeah, you
could argue it's realistic that ultimately, at some point or another,
he would have contracted the rage virus and that you know,
maybe he went for a really long time before that happened,

(45:33):
but ultimately that's what happened, and maybe that is realistic
and everything. But I typically hate watching a film where
whatever was accomplished in the first film is wiped out
in the subsequent film. This is, by the way, total
bizarre comparison for me to make. But this is one

(45:54):
of the big problems I have with Ralph rex the Internet,
because or Ralph breaks the Internet. Because Reckett Ralph is
all about him. Once he gets past his own needs,
it's all about him getting Vanelope back into sugar Rush.
And then in the second movie, she's like, yeah, I

(46:15):
don't want to be part of this game anymore. And
I'm like, are you freaking kidding me? We did a
whole movie about how you need to be in the game.

Speaker 1 (46:24):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (46:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (46:25):
I hope in this third movie, I hope that they
keep it at a trilogy and that they find the
cure because in the second movie, I know this only
from reading Wikipedia, because as I mentioned earlier in this episode,
I don't remember the second movie, they had some people
who were carriers but did not suffer the effects of
the rage virus and therefore we're hoping to find a

(46:46):
cure and I hope they do.

Speaker 2 (46:48):
Which is also similar to lots of other zombie stories
see also Well, I guess I shouldn't say because it's
technically a spoiler and maybe some people haven't seen the
series yet, but some series that relate to zombie like folks,
there's similarities there is all I'll say.

Speaker 1 (47:07):
Like with with like mushrooms and stuff.

Speaker 2 (47:09):
Yeah, you know, you know, like sometimes sometimes it's all
involving Pedro Pascal because he's a fun guy.

Speaker 1 (47:17):
Yeah, yeah, okay, yeah, I follow.

Speaker 2 (47:19):
It's just fun, fun guy.

Speaker 1 (47:21):
I get it. It's very funny.

Speaker 2 (47:23):
Thank you.

Speaker 1 (47:23):
I'm laughing, just silently so it doesn't mess up the audio.

Speaker 2 (47:26):
I appreciate that. I appreciate your incredible self control.

Speaker 1 (47:31):
Oh I failed. We also get a trailer for the
season three of Invincible. I still haven't watched season two.

Speaker 2 (47:39):
Oh my gosh. It's so good.

Speaker 1 (47:42):
It's much the second half of season two.

Speaker 2 (47:44):
It's you definitely need to see it. I mean, it
is what Invincible always is, which is that it gets
pretty grim and exceedingly violent, but it's Also, I think
well done. This trailer seems to suggest that uh gosh,
I can't even remember the character's name, apart from Invincible
being the the what people refer to him as. But

(48:06):
it seems like he's he's finally had enough and he's
not going to allow himself to be manipulated by the
government anymore. And meanwhile the government's like, no, we seriously
need to manipulate you. Stop resisting so much.

Speaker 1 (48:23):
Yeah, yep, that's what I g that's again, not having
seen the second half of season two, that's what it
feels like to me too.

Speaker 2 (48:32):
And his little brother has grown up quite a bit?

Speaker 1 (48:35):
Is that the little brother that his dad had with
the alien.

Speaker 2 (48:39):
The purple The purple kid who is in the trailer
is his infant brother because the species that Omni man
mate it with ages at a much more accelerated rate
than say, humans do.

Speaker 1 (48:53):
Gotcha?

Speaker 2 (48:54):
Okay?

Speaker 1 (48:55):
Interesting? Sorry for anybody who that's a spoiler for, but
I wanted to know. And it's my birthday and.

Speaker 2 (49:01):
It's from the comic books too, so yeah, it's this
looks good. Invincible season I gotta say more excited about
Invincible season three than I am with the Boys Season
five I think now.

Speaker 1 (49:15):
Oh yeah, especially after Kripke said the rails are off
and anything goes I'm like, I can't imagine where you're
going to go from that.

Speaker 2 (49:27):
Yeah, I my my willingness to endure more like misery
only goes so far, which is why I like I
bailed off Game of Thrones too, right? Was that? Like
I get to a point where I'm just like, I
don't need a story that's just about how miserable people

(49:48):
are and that anyone who is decent is a goner
for sure, because it's a miserable world. Like, I don't
need that, y'all. I need some hope. I mean, it's
fine for the people who find it entertaining. I'm not
yucking anyone's yum. I'm just saying for me personally, I
need to have some hope in there or else I'm like,
what am I even doing?

Speaker 1 (50:09):
So you are not looking forward to the Return of
the Living Dead next Christmas?

Speaker 2 (50:14):
Oh No, I'm absolutely looking forward to the Return of
the Living Dead. That's different because Return of the Living Dead.
Have you ever watched Return of the Living Dead the original? No?

Speaker 1 (50:24):
I haven't even watched Night of the Living Dead. I've
seen bits of it and I need to watch it.

Speaker 2 (50:28):
Yeah, I was want to say, Ni the Living Dead,
you could do. It's really not that graphic. It's you know,
and it's like all of Romero's works are really more,
in fact, a lot of what a lot of zombie
works are about. It's more about how humans interact with
each other, that is about the ghules or zombies.

Speaker 1 (50:45):
But that's the thing is I find humans interacting with
each other poorly so much more upsetting and scary than
any monster.

Speaker 2 (50:52):
Yeah. I think it's just like, you know, you need
to have an outside threat to force people together who
normally would not choose to be together, and then see
how the dynamic plays out. And I get what you're saying.
Like some things, like I think Neither Living Dead did
it really well. I think some shows like The Walking
Dead went to such extremes that nothing could bring me back.

(51:16):
It was just too gritty and pessimistic and cynical. I
just couldn't do it. Return of the Living Dead is more.
There's some comedy in it. It's not an outright comedy,
but there's like a lot of over the top absurd

(51:37):
stuff that happens in Return of the Living Dead. And
it's done on purpose. It wasn't like they weren't trying
to be absurd. Again, it's not an outright comedy, but
there's a lot more comedic elements to it, and it's
a silly movie that also happens to be very gross
and filled with zombies and stuff. So I am curious

(51:57):
if what we're getting is going to be more of that.
The interesting thing to me is, I just assumed when
you put Return of the Living Dead teaser in our
lineup that it was going to be a remake. It's not.
It's not a remake or a reboot. It's a direct
sequel and it's set in nineteen eighty five, so it's
technically a period piece.

Speaker 1 (52:19):
You can't say that, Jonathan.

Speaker 2 (52:21):
I know, and yet it's true.

Speaker 1 (52:25):
This is another trailer that I thought found very effective.
It was super creepy.

Speaker 2 (52:30):
Yeah with very little Yeah. Yeah, this one you just
see you don't even really get a great look at
the zombie. But it's a zombie slowly dragging a Christmas
tree into a cemetery.

Speaker 1 (52:42):
That may or may not have a human body in it.

Speaker 2 (52:46):
Yeah. I just figured it was a tree, but maybe
there was a human body.

Speaker 1 (52:49):
I thought I saw a face, and I went back
and I looked like three times that I couldn't tell.
So great job a visual department.

Speaker 2 (52:57):
Yeah, yeah, it was very effective. At second, it makes
me wonder, actually, how much if any of the humor
will make its way into the final film, because I'm like, well,
on the one hand, this is kind of an interesting juxtaposition,
like you have this snowy cemetery and a zombie pulling
a fully lit Christmas tree into the cemetery until the

(53:22):
extension chords give out. So there is some kind of
like dark humor potentially going on there. Nothing overt, but
the possibility of it. I just don't know if that's
what's going to make its way into the film or not.
I hope so.

Speaker 1 (53:38):
I hope so, because gritty, like you said, gritty without
some levity or some humanity is.

Speaker 2 (53:46):
Hard. Yeah, it grinds you down, Like you know, at
the end of the day. It's not like I feel
that all entertainment needs to be lighthearted and have a
happy ending and be joyful or whatever, but some of
it should be, Like I just I can't if it's
if everything is dark and grim and foreboding, then I

(54:08):
don't know. Where I turned to in order to soothe
my brain.

Speaker 1 (54:11):
You turn to Star Trek section thirty one. I don't
think I do, so, you know, maybe you're right because
Star Trek Discovery did have some very dark motifs, especially
in the earlier well, I guess all throughout, but especially
in the earlier seasons. Section thirty one focuses around Michelle

(54:34):
Yeoh's character in the alternate universe, where she's started off
as like a badass dictator kind of a character and
not a good person at all, and maybe had a
change of heart and now is building her own suicide squad.

Speaker 2 (54:49):
Yeah, this this trailer.

Speaker 1 (54:52):
For it maybe look better than the first trailer for it.
This one made it feel like it had a bit
more stakes and through line than just come.

Speaker 2 (55:00):
Yeah, it's kind of like a dark operative, you know,
setting within Star Trek. I guess there's nothing wrong with that,
and I hope that people who dig it really get
a lot out of it. I'm one of those old
fogies who I miss the days of Star Trek also
being like optimistic and aspirational and sure there are times

(55:27):
where we fall fall short and we fail, but ultimately
we're striving toward goodness, and I have real problems with
all the Star Trek that's like, let's do that, but
dark and gritty.

Speaker 1 (55:42):
So I really feel like especially the later seasons, like
maybe season three and on at least the last two
for certain of Discovery very much were there, very much
were there?

Speaker 2 (55:52):
Yeah, they lost me in the first season. That's that's
the problem is that I just I was like, I'm
not buying what they're selling.

Speaker 1 (56:00):
The final two seasons I absolutely loved and I really
enjoy Strange New Worlds, although it does ping pong back
and forth kind of like orvild it between like the
fun episodes and the heavy episodes, but still it does
hold on to some of that optimistic og Star Trek feel.

Speaker 2 (56:21):
Yeah, I again, like I said, I hope that other
Star Trek fans, you know, the folks who really dig
this kind of direction for the series and the franchise.
I hope they really like it. It looks like it's
very well made. It's just again like it's hard for
me to get excited about it because it's such a

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huge departure from what I think of as Star Trek,
which is not to say that what I think of
as Star Trek is the right or only way. It's
just because that's what's ingrained in my head. It's very
hard for me to go along with other stuff that
has the Star Trek name but so different to me.

Speaker 1 (57:01):
And that is a big thing that Star Trek has
been dealing with because they have been keeping their fans
very loyally, but they aren't getting new fans, so they
have to tell stories that will bring a new generation
into Star Trek while still trying to appease the older generation.
But they just don't enjoy the same kind of stories. Often,

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not always. Sometimes we have stories that everybody enjoys, but
it is it has been one of the things that
Star Trek has been struggling with is how to bridge
that gap.

Speaker 2 (57:30):
So I think it's also they figured out it's also
a bigger ask for your audience to buy into the
idea of the future being a time where we've solved
all of our problems and now we're focused on exploration
and discovery, when right now, for a lot of people,

(57:51):
when they're looking into at least the near term future,
it's really stressful, I agree, and so it just makes
it hard to be like, well, how am I supposed
to believe in a world where we don't need money.
You know, everyone's healthcare is taken care of you. You
have the freedom to pursue whatever you want. You don't

(58:12):
have to do anything as for a living. You can
get on a ship and go into space and discover
brand new worlds and all that. Like, it's hard to
even imagine that as a possibility when you might be
worried about things like you're how secure you are and
having a home or whether or not you're gonna be persecuted.

Speaker 1 (58:34):
Yep, yep. Fun times, fun times. Times that might make
us all feel a little curmudgeony, Which brings me to
our next trailer for Old Guy.

Speaker 2 (58:44):
Yeah, yeah, this is this is where Jonathan reveals that
he's definitely an old guy. Yeah, so Old Guy. It's
a trailer. It's got Christoph Waltz in it and Lucy
Lou and Waltz is playing uh and at a a
over the hill hit man and Lucy Lou I believe
is supposed to be a handler. I think so. And

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the problem is that Waltz's character, as he ages, he's
encountering some physical limitations to his capabilities that are impacting
how well he done kills people to death, so he's
then assigned a younger hit man to train up in
the ways of hit mannerness.

Speaker 1 (59:29):
Honestly, this just reminds me of Lethal Weapon, but where
Myrta is the main character. H yeah, he's getting dual
for this.

Speaker 2 (59:37):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah. I was thinking like that that
could have been the alternative title.

Speaker 1 (59:41):
Yeah, yeah, this, Yeah, it looks cute. It didn't, it didn't.
It's just the first trailer, but it didn't quite hit
the comedy punches that I wanted it to.

Speaker 2 (59:51):
Agreed, Yeah, I was like, how odd because the premise.
I mean, honestly, it's similar to other movies we've seen, right,
like Red, the film with Bruce Willis and Helen Mirren
and Morgan Freeman and you know, etcetera, etcetera. John Malkovich, Yeah,
those movies dealt with aging operatives who are still capable

(01:00:15):
of taking care of business even when the younger folks
are sent after them. And I was hopeful that this,
even if it even if it didn't prove that he
was super capable even as an old man, that it
will at least have a kind of sense of humor
that was a bit more lively because as I watched

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this trailer, I had the same feeling. I was like,
I like the idea behind this, I like the premise,
but the execution doesn't feel like they quite nailed it.
But again, like you said, it's first trailer.

Speaker 1 (01:00:48):
First trailer. You know, I enjoyed the D and D movie,
where as the trailers made me think I definitely would not.
So trailers can be misleading. Same thing with like Suicide
the First Suicide Squad. Hopefully the same thing with Harley
Quinn season five, because I watched that trailer and I'm like,
haven't I seen all of this already?

Speaker 2 (01:01:08):
Yeah? I still have only seen the first season of
Harley Quinn, which I enjoyed, but like so many other things,
I just need to sit down and watch the rest
of it. The big move in this trailer is that
Harley and Poison IVY decide that Gotham maybe is a
little too like on Fire and covered in giant rats

(01:01:32):
for their likings, so they're going to at least temporarily
relocate to Metropolis.

Speaker 1 (01:01:37):
Yeah, I will. I like, there's more I could say
about it, but I don't. I don't want to spoil
it for you. If you go to watch in the future.
So if the series, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:01:49):
Have they gone to Metropolis before, you can say.

Speaker 1 (01:01:52):
That they haven't. But like Harley's had a bit of
a job shift poison Ivy, I think in season four
already makes the mistake of working for Lex Luthor, So
why is she doing it again? Stuff like that.

Speaker 2 (01:02:08):
Yeah, I I mean it still looks funny, it still
looks irreverent as crazy. Like you know, the first season
was raunchier than I expected. Not that I was turned
off by it. I wasn't like upset by it, but
I just wasn't. I had not prepared myself for that eventuality.
And then once I did, I was like, oh, I
can get into this. It's pretty funny, It's well written.

(01:02:31):
I'm enjoying the wild takes on some of these characters,
especially clay Face. He's probably my favorite. Yeah, yeah, although
King Shark is way up there.

Speaker 1 (01:02:42):
Though clay Face and King Shark are delightful. I will
say that as the seasons go on, they also are like, well,
how are you going to top ourselves? Let's be a
little more raunchy, so got it? Which is less for me, but.

Speaker 2 (01:02:55):
Yeah, well, something that I think is for you is
heart felt expressions of wanting to help other people. And
we got that in a very irreverent form when we
got a thing that Ryan Reynolds created where he's he's
raising money for Sick Children's Hospital in Canada, and he

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did it with a video of him as Deadpool. And
then there's Kidpool in the back of a sleigh which
has a jingle bell truck balls on it, and they
realize that they are the wrong spokespeople to try and
raise money for children because they are our rated characters

(01:03:38):
and they need they need someone who's who's wholesome and
family friendly to help them out. So who goes to
save them?

Speaker 1 (01:03:46):
Linda Carter for w which, for anybody who doesn't know,
was the original TV wonder Woman.

Speaker 2 (01:03:52):
Yeah, and they that Ryan Reynolds has the very playful
as Deadpool has the playful what a wonder full woman?

Speaker 1 (01:04:00):
Yeah, because she's DC and their marvel and so like
she tries to put on the wonder Woman costume and fails.
Yeah she Lin Carter can still get it.

Speaker 2 (01:04:09):
Oh yeah, no, she's good lord like that woman, gorgeous,
gorgeous woman. And if she wants to transform into wonder
Woman letter but no, she turned she gets into a
giant like onesie ugly sweater type thing. Yeah, but it
was very cute. It was such a cute little moment.
And of course, like they have the link that people

(01:04:30):
can follow in order to donate to six Children's Hospital,
and they at the end there's a little notice that
says that Ryan and Blake will match the first five
hundred thousand dollars in donations as long.

Speaker 1 (01:04:47):
As they're made before midnight on December twenty fourth.

Speaker 2 (01:04:50):
That's true, Yes, thank you.

Speaker 1 (01:04:52):
Yeah, so, yeah, it's great, it's really cute. I love
that Ryan is working with his daughter again as Kidpool,
and uh yeah, it's just such such a good way
to take such a dirty character and make it a
little more joyful.

Speaker 2 (01:05:08):
Yeah, I love this man. I would have marked out
if Wonder Woman had shown up next to Deadpool. I
would have been like, Okay, if this is all I
ever get of Marvel and DC crossing over, it's working.

Speaker 1 (01:05:23):
Yeah, for sure. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:05:26):
I enjoyed it a lot. I enjoyed the the presentation
of the piece. Uh did you enjoy the trailer for
the next movie on our list?

Speaker 1 (01:05:36):
Novacane?

Speaker 2 (01:05:37):
Yes?

Speaker 1 (01:05:40):
So. In Novacane, Jack Quaid is a person who can't
feel pain and therefore puts himself in dangerous situations. Allah,
a superhero kind of like super or kick Ass or
something like that. Yeah, to rescue a girl.

Speaker 2 (01:05:56):
I think it. I think kick Ass didn't. Wasn't that
a thing for that character too? Is that?

Speaker 1 (01:06:01):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (01:06:01):
Yeah? Same? So?

Speaker 1 (01:06:03):
Well kick Ass could feel pain, but I think.

Speaker 2 (01:06:09):
I couldn't remember. I thought that the whole reason why
he decided he could become a superhero was that his
ability to feel pain was diminished. Like he can definitely
feel out of breath and everything, but I couldn't remember
because it's been a long time since I've seen that movie,
if I'm being honest.

Speaker 1 (01:06:25):
But he has a delayed reaction.

Speaker 2 (01:06:28):
Got it, got it pain? So this is a real thing.
There are people who lack the ability to feel pain,
and it's also a real thing that many of them
don't make it to adulthood because pain is our body's
way of alerting us to danger, and if you are
unable to feel pain and you're in a dangerous situation,

(01:06:49):
you could end up becoming unalive because you were unable
to avoid it. So there is a moment in the
trailer where one of his someone who's known him for
a long time, sees m and expresses surprise that he's
not dead. Yeah, and he's.

Speaker 1 (01:07:08):
Watching some of this stuff he does in the trailer.
I'm surprised that he's Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:07:12):
Yeah, he he doesn't like because he doesn't feel pain.
He doesn't have a sense of hesitation to do things
that are result that result in severe bodily harm, like
up to and including reaching into a fryar to retrieve
a gun that's in the bottom of molten hot oil.

Speaker 1 (01:07:35):
And that's the thing is like, at one point he
punches his already bloody fists into some broken glass to
become like Wolverine. I think that's cool. That's a great
use of the power. You're gonna have some cut up knuckles,
the sticking, like fully cooking your hand. You don't recover
from that, yeah, without regenerative superpowers. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:07:52):
He talks about how he also grabs a cast iron
skillet that's been on a cooktop for a while and
uses that as a weapon, and a guy grabs it
and then he starts screaming and he's like, yeah, you've
got some third degree burns in your hands. You should
run that under cold water. And I'm sitting there thinking like, no,
you also have third degree burns on your hand. Just
because you can't feel it doesn't mean that your hand
hasn't been incredibly damaged.

Speaker 1 (01:08:14):
Also, not cold water, cool water. You don't want to
You don't want to put ice on a third degree
burn because you'll kill those cells even worse.

Speaker 2 (01:08:21):
Yeah, but anyway, Yeah, it's it's entertaining and jack Quade
is great in it.

Speaker 1 (01:08:26):
Yeah. I think it'll be fun. I think it'll be
super bloody and messy, and that might be hard for me,
but I think the concept in the execution will be fun.
I need to addend him to my addendum. Kick Ass
got severely beat up in his rehabilitation. They put a
bunch of metal plates in his body and that caused
him to be able to take traditional meetings because it
they absorbed a lot.

Speaker 2 (01:08:47):
Of I see. Okay, okay, Well, I also want to
mention that Jack Quade. If you are a big fan
of Jack Quade, he's appeared in a couple of videos
for Red Letter Media over the last year or so,
and that includes him sitting down to talk about the
movie Galaxy Quest in an episode called Review. They did

(01:09:12):
a review of Galaxy Quest and that was very entertaining.
Seems to be a super charming guy, and it's just
kind of cool to Like. I've been following the Red
Letter media guys forever and I just think of them
as like filmmakers and YouTubers, but like filmmakers on the
level of tiny, little experimental films, nothing like major And

(01:09:33):
then Jack Quaide shows up to hang out with them,
and I'm like, oh my gosh, it's the guy for
the boys.

Speaker 1 (01:09:39):
And from Lower Decks and all that stuff. Yeah, we
have two more stories. We are hitting close to an
hour and a half, so let's pole through these.

Speaker 2 (01:09:47):
Well, yeah, like ten minutes. That's going to go away,
because that's when I had to get up and go bathroom. Okay,
but no one of them is the We got a
trailer for the Looney Tunes, the film The Day the
Earth Blew Up. I know what I think about this,
but I'm curious what you think about it.

Speaker 1 (01:10:05):
I don't understand why this is getting a theatrical released
when Coyote in Roadrunner did not, because this, to me,
Loney Tunes has always been a little bit of reverent
and raunchy at times. This feels closer to run and
stippy than Looney Tunes for me.

Speaker 2 (01:10:20):
I think the problem I had was that I felt
like Daffy Duck is a little too zany. Like the
Daffy Duck cartoons that I love the most are the
ones where he's cantankerous and cranky and he's usually pitted
against bugs Bunny, and it's that like he just is

(01:10:43):
so upset that Bugs Bunny has really good fortune, and
he always has bad fortune, even though he brings it
on himself. So to see him as more of a zany, weird,
like high energy, absurd character, even though I know that
that's kind of how they portrayed him, and say, who
Framedert Roger Rabbit or whatever, it does like there's a

(01:11:05):
disconnect because that's not who Daffy Duck is in my mind. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:11:09):
Also, Porky Peg and Daffy Duck sounded awful similar.

Speaker 2 (01:11:13):
Yeah, well the mel Blank has long gone unfortunately, but
I know, yeah, I feel the same. I'm like, I
wish you had kept Acme or whatever it was called
the Coyote Movie because everyone who saw that said that
they thought it was really good. And of course it
will never be released because Warner Brothers Discovery famously wrote

(01:11:35):
it off for taxes.

Speaker 1 (01:11:37):
Yeah, yeah, maybe this will be good too. Maybe I'm
not giving it a fair shot. I'll I'll see what.

Speaker 2 (01:11:43):
Maybe I don't know that I'm gonna watch unless I
hear from my friends like, no, you really need to
see it. The trailers didn't do it justice. I don't.
I think I'll probably give this one a pass.

Speaker 1 (01:11:53):
Same same. What I will not give a pass is
a revival of Malcolm in the Middle, because I really
enjoyed that show.

Speaker 2 (01:12:01):
Yeah, I don't know if you did. The ones I
saw I thought were great. I was never like a
hardcore fan where I had to catch every episode, but
the episodes I saw were really entertaining and I that's
where I thought that Brian Cranston was a brilliant comedic actor.
And it wasn't until I saw him in Breaking Bad
where I was like, holy crap, this guy can do everything.

Speaker 1 (01:12:24):
Same same. I didn't come into Malcolm in the Middle
until later on because my husband was a fan of
the show. But yeah, I really enjoy it. This new
revival will be the fortieth anniversary of the Brian Cranston
and Brian Cranston's character and his wife's character's marriage. They're
inviting the kids back, and Frankie will be showing up.

(01:12:45):
Frankie Munis's character will be showing up with his wife
and daughter and maybe the other kids too, although the
youngest kid, Dewey, retired from acting several years ago.

Speaker 2 (01:12:55):
So interesting. Yeah, it's supposed to be a four episode
any series. It's going to be on Disney Plus. And yeah,
they did a very short video promoting it, like or
really not even promoting it, just announcing that it was
going to be a thing. That was just a cute
little like meta announcement sort of deal. I really am

(01:13:20):
curious about it. I can't wait to see Brian Cranston
acting in an overtly comedic role again. And gosh, I
hope I hope they slip at least one or two
breaking bad references in there somehow.

Speaker 1 (01:13:35):
Me too, that would be amazing. Maybe getting Aaron Paul
in there.

Speaker 2 (01:13:39):
Maybe, or maybe maybe giving Frankie Munez his kids like
Blue Rock Candy.

Speaker 1 (01:13:44):
As a trump that would be amazing.

Speaker 2 (01:13:47):
Like, there's so many things you could do without it
being overt. But you know, there's a sly little nod
to the audience. I mean, it's Disney plus, so they're
not going to talk about meth I imagine, but I would.

Speaker 1 (01:13:58):
Not probably not fun. Fact, I went to a Hanson
concert once in Georgia and Frankie Munitz was there, and
I know that because everybody kept screaming up into the balcony.
We see you, Frankie.

Speaker 2 (01:14:10):
So that was fun.

Speaker 1 (01:14:13):
Years ago.

Speaker 2 (01:14:13):
That's That's a story, is what that is.

Speaker 1 (01:14:17):
That's a story for sure. That's also all we have
to talk about this week.

Speaker 2 (01:14:27):
Yeah, we got through it all.

Speaker 1 (01:14:29):
Mm hmm, yeah, only an hour and a half this time,
not even that yet, not even that close close though. Yeah,
so this has been a lot of fun. We will
not be around next week. I don't know about the
week after. Jonathan and I have to kind of connect
and see what our schedules look like. But next week
I will be traveling and not available to record.

Speaker 2 (01:14:52):
So yeah, we're just gonna We're gonna wish you all
happy holidays, whatever you observe or celebrate, and I hope
that when we come back, you know, it'll probably be
close to the new year, if not the new year,
and we will have a whole another twelve months of
geekiness to look forward to.

Speaker 1 (01:15:14):
I hope for that too. In the meantime, if people
do want to write to us to wish us happy
holidays or to talk about something they're excited for the
coming year, how do they do that? Jonathan?

Speaker 2 (01:15:26):
Well, if you want to get in touch with me,
what you have to do is first you've got to
reflect on the fact that you have so many relationships
in this life, only one or two will last. You
go through all the pain and strife. Then you turn
your back and they're gone so fast. Oh yeah, they're gone.

(01:15:46):
They're gone so fast, so fast. So hold on to
the ones who really care, because in the end they'll
be the only ones there. When you get old and
like me, you start losing your hair, can you tell
me who will still care? Can you tell me who
will still care? Mbopop boom, yeah yeah. And once you

(01:16:10):
finish reflecting on that, then you can turn around and
you'll see me in a little blonde wig posing behind
some drums, and I'll say I'm the youngest one. And
if that doesn't turn you off, you could ask me
your question.

Speaker 1 (01:16:26):
Uh, man, you really planted a flower? Planted a seed,
a flower arose Jonathan?

Speaker 2 (01:16:31):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (01:16:34):
If I loved that.

Speaker 2 (01:16:36):
Song and ironically, I love that song.

Speaker 1 (01:16:40):
Start Start eighty four. I used to play a version
of it where they would put in like other things
like feel good and like Kermit the Frog and all this.
It was amazing. Anyhow, if you want to reach us
outside of that, you can contact us on social media
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You can go to our website www dot large neurdron

(01:17:01):
collider dot com not only for the show notes, but
also to get an invite to our discord where you
can pop on. I'm usually the one moderating that, but
if you leave a message for Jonathan, I will pass
it along, and you can also email us. Our email
is large Nerdrum Pod at gmail dot com. I have
to close my eyes so I don't get distracted and

(01:17:22):
lose all of those handles, even though most of them
are the same. So until next time, I am Ariel,
have the happiest holidays cast.

Speaker 2 (01:17:31):
In and I am Jonathan. I'm a secret. No one
knows Stricklan oh.

Speaker 1 (01:17:37):
Yeah, but love.

Speaker 2 (01:17:44):
The Large Nerdron Collider was created by Aeriel Caston and produced, edited, published, deleted, undeleted,
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