LNC Just Wants You To Be Happy

Jonathan and Ariel talk about Pluribus and how impressed they are with it. Plus we chat about adapting properties into musicals, whether or not Wuthering Heights should be a bodice-ripping romance, and the joy of monsters.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:10):
Hey, everybody, Welcome to the Large and our Drunk Collider podcast,
a podcast that's all about the geeky things happening in
the world around us. It's how very excited we are
about them. I am Ariel Caston and with me as
always is the fantastic Jonathan Strickland.

Speaker 2 (00:22):
Don't worry, be happy like everybody else.

Speaker 1 (00:28):
You said that was such a serious face, Jonathan. I
know that none of our listeners can see it, but
it's ill.

Speaker 2 (00:35):
I'm I am evoking something that I'm sure we're going
to be chatting about.

Speaker 1 (00:40):
In just a moment, oh for sure.

Speaker 2 (00:43):
But before we get into all of that chatter, because
we're excited, we actually talked about the possibility of doing
a special episode that would just be us talking about
I'll go ahead and say it, talking about plural of
us because we've both watched the first two episodes and
the third one comes out tonight, and it's the kind

(01:04):
of show. It's like an old school show where you
want to talk about it around the water cooler right yes,
the day after you see it. So anyway, we talked
about doing a special episode that was just that, but
instead you're getting a normal episode that also will have
some pluribus in it. But before we get to that,
we do have a question, which was my turn this

(01:26):
week to ask a question. Yes, and I came up
with the goofy question of what is a property you
would like to see turned into a musical? Because we've
often talked about kind of our disdain for how Broadway
has taken various ip and then just like things that

(01:46):
were established as movies or television or whatever, then turned
it into a musical. But if you had your choice,
what would you pick?

Speaker 1 (01:54):
So you mean something from a TV or movie that
got put on Broadway? Correct, I'm just gonna like clarification
about question.

Speaker 2 (02:00):
Well, kind of like how Beetlejuice has been turned into
a musical.

Speaker 1 (02:04):
Okay, because my my instant answer is I couldn't tell
if it was I can't tell if it's a cop
out or not because it is technically already a musical,
but it's never been on Broadway.

Speaker 2 (02:19):
And that is Gallivant, So you would want Gallivant to
be adapted into like a two I think that counts
because is turned into a stage musical and that was
a full two season series.

Speaker 1 (02:32):
Although I saw that, yeah, and I saw that has
been hotel is getting a short little Broadway performance something too.

Speaker 2 (02:40):
Okay. I mean I'm not we aren't Zennials, so we
don't really get it. Yeah. I so I wrote down Highlander.

Speaker 1 (02:53):
That would be fun.

Speaker 2 (02:54):
It would be a fun musical because and after a
musical is like death becomes I feel like you could
have a campy, fun Highlander musical and you could even
include well, I mean, if you could get the rights,
you can maybe include some of the queen songs in
there too. Yeah, there's actually a queen song in Highlander

(03:16):
called Don't Lose your Head, which would be great as
a stage musical number.

Speaker 1 (03:21):
There's something similar to that in Six the Musical. I'm like, oh, man,
you said Highlander, and I got an idea for another
one that I was like, well this, this would be good.
Oh yeah, I got it. Okay, so I have two
other ones. The problem is, yeah, we don't. I don't often.
It's never. I never want a property that isn't a
musical to be turned into a stage musical. It's usually

(03:44):
I've become a fan of them after the proof of
concept has proven that it was a good idea. You know, sure, Yeah,
But if I if I were to pick two non
musical things to do. Far Escape because it's done everything else, sure,
and then the other one would be, oh goodness, I
just had it. What was it?

Speaker 2 (04:03):
Well, let me talk about I'll talk about a couple
of others, and I'll mention what inspired me to ask
this question. It's that in New York and it's off Broadway.
It's not a Broadway show. But in New York there
was a limited run of bat Boy the Musical, which
is based off a ridiculous tabloid news article that was

(04:24):
in an old weekly World News. If you remember that
tabloid of a supposed half bat half human monster discovered
I think it was West Virginia, and they some folks
turned that into a musical. And I saw that musical

(04:45):
twenty two years ago in Atlanta because Dad's Garage did
a production of it. And it's ludicrous and it's super
dark and twisted, like crazy twisted. And I was curious
how much of that had been updated and perhaps softened

(05:07):
in twenty twenty five, and apparently not not some of
the big ones. Some of the big ones apparently are
still in there. But that's what inspired me to ask
the question.

Speaker 1 (05:15):
Yeah, gotcha, my friend who was in Shucked and Dead
Outlaw and all Head over heels was in this bat
Boy production.

Speaker 2 (05:24):
Oh do you do you know who he happened to play?

Speaker 1 (05:29):
Look it up, Yes, now he is. He's going over
this month to be the dentist in Little Shop of Horrors.

Speaker 2 (05:38):
Oh nice, what a great role.

Speaker 1 (05:40):
Yeah, he's well and he's phenomenal. He played Come on
play bill Rick Taylor.

Speaker 2 (05:49):
Okay, so he's one of the one of the humans.
Edgar is the name of the bat Boy I anyway,
that's what inspired me. So the two that I thought
of before Highlander, one of them was Sword and Swords
and Sorcery. Are no Wizards and Warriors. Not Sword and Sorcery.
That's a schlocky eighties movie. But Wizards of Warriors was

(06:11):
a schlocky eighties television show only lasted like eight episodes
before it was canceled, had like Julia Duffy in it
as a princess. It was ridiculous, absolutely ridiculous. It will
never be turned into a musical because I think only
eight people ever saw it, and I'm one of them.
But the other one was I thought it'd be really

(06:32):
funny to have Terminator the musical.

Speaker 1 (06:36):
I mean, Universal Studios kind of had that for a while.
Really it wasn't a musical, but they had a live
Terminator show.

Speaker 2 (06:41):
That's not the same thing at all.

Speaker 1 (06:43):
No, it's not.

Speaker 2 (06:44):
I want the big musical number of your clothes, give
them to me.

Speaker 1 (06:49):
I mean, I feel like now you've you've relegated us
to doing a mashup or a fake script for next week.

Speaker 2 (06:56):
The Terminator the musical.

Speaker 1 (06:58):
Yeah, yeah, a pitch pitch meeting, so to speak. Two
others that I could do. I remember the other one
I was going to talk about, and then I remembered
another one. Labyrinth. I think would make a great stage
musical and.

Speaker 2 (07:10):
It would help make up for the fact that the
Muppets had a very brief Broadway debut this month, but
the show got canceled like it's ending early. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (07:21):
Yeah. The other I think to go to another thing
that absolutely has no no musical in it, but I
think would really fall into like The Beetlejuice, Harry Potter
and The Curse Child, the Stranger Things kind of play
at least play musical thing WandaVision. I think you could

(07:44):
do some amazing stage magic for that.

Speaker 2 (07:46):
That would be fun. I would also include lots of
fun sets in order to reflect the different time periods. Yeah,
that could be really cool. Something that is not a musical,
but Ariel and I are looking forward to is a
performance of Twelfth Night. We've seen some some excerpts and

(08:09):
Peter Dinklige as Malvolio is so funny.

Speaker 1 (08:15):
Yeah, Sandra Oh is playing Olivia Olivia, and then Lapeta
Niongo and her her brother are playing the Twins, which
is really cool. There is a little bit of music
because Lapita does.

Speaker 2 (08:29):
Like kind of rap rapping. Yeah, incredibly cringey in the
best way, like purposefully cringey. I'm not I'm not saying
that her performance was cringey. I'm saying she was purposefully
doing the cringe and I loved it. I love Peter
Dinklich's instincts, Like, yeah, he just he He has such

(08:51):
great moments on stage as he's being this cantankerous, insufferable
pretend chiss servant. That's so good.

Speaker 1 (09:03):
I know. I talked about on a previous episode of
this show how I had watched the last time Great
Performances did a Twelfth Night on PBS years ago, like
in the nineties or early two thousands, and it was
Helen Hut and Paul Rudd, and that was such a wonderful,
wonderful performance, and it was very, very grounded. This one
feels like it really leans into the camp and I

(09:24):
love that there is space in the world for both
of these to be such a brilliant adaptation of the play.

Speaker 2 (09:29):
Yeah, I saw some clips because I got I went
down a rabbit hole after I saw the Peter Dinklich
Malvolio yellow tights and crossed Garters scene, and I saw
a clip from a production in which Stephen Frye was Malvolio.
But in that production it was at the Globe Theater

(09:50):
and it was an all male production, so they were
doing the Shakespearean thing of even the female roles are
play by men, which makes Twelfth Night particularly tricky to
think about, because if you are unfamiliar with the play,
Viola disguises herself as a man named Cesarro and attempts

(10:15):
to woo Olivia on behalf of his her master and Osinio,
and so in Shakespeare's time you had essentially a young
man playing Viola who disguises herself as a man. And
so it's a man playing a woman disguised as a man.

(10:35):
So it's the layers of gender confusion, right and misidentification,
including a meta textual one, And so I could, I
could appreciate what they were going for, but I gotta
tell you, Ariel from the lens of twenty twenty five,
it was a bit of a shock to see all

(10:57):
the roles being played by male actors.

Speaker 1 (11:00):
Yeah, yeah, for sure, I could, I could imagine. I
don't I don't hate it, but I also like, I
like when you take casts and you completely reverse.

Speaker 2 (11:13):
The Oh yeah, you gender flip everybody. Yeah, that can
be fun too. That's how I mean. When I saw
King Lear, Lear was played by an actress, as was
one of who was it? Was it Gloucester? I think
Glocester was also played by an actress, But yeah, it was.
It was great. It was a fantastic performance. It did
change things a bit because they didn't change the text

(11:36):
at all. All the all the pronouns and everything remained
the same within the text. But so that does make it,
but I still appreciate it. I still thought it was
a brilliant performance. And that was where Pedero Pascal was
in the cast, and I had no idea who he
was at the time because I had not yet started
watching The Mandalorian.

Speaker 1 (11:56):
And I know locally the Shakespeare Company does all female
gests of various Shakespeare plays as well, so I think
that there are all female non binary. I do think
that there is definitely a place for that, because it
does depending on how you do. It changed the context
of the situation.

Speaker 2 (12:15):
And it's absolutely yeah. And I say this as someone
like back in the before we started recording, Ariel and
I were talking about the Georgia Renaissance Festival, because it
doesn't matter how long ago it was when we performed there,
eventually conversation will go back around to it.

Speaker 1 (12:31):
We spent so many years there.

Speaker 2 (12:33):
Yes, we did. And when I first started, I was
part of the Shakespeare Parody Group, and originally the Shakespeare
Parody did shows the classic way in the sense that
all the roles were played by male actors. I was
Juliette twice. I've been Juliette two times, once in twenty nineteen.

(12:55):
But we did have actresses playing the other two parts
in that particular product, so it did kind of even out.
We you know, an actress played Romeo, so it was
kind of a gender flip situation. But in that initial run.
It was five male actors playing all the parts. And
while you know, there was some clowning and some gags

(13:19):
that were based upon that. Like, I think the humor
stands much more strongly if you remove that, because then
you're paying attention to what the jokes actually are instead
of the performance itself being a joke.

Speaker 1 (13:33):
I can see that. I can see that. I did.
I did find on social media the other day a
video clip of myself and Lucas doing the Shakespeare for
the Student Days show. Oh yeah, where we had everybody
do death like the kid. We brought kids up on
stage and had them die to various tragic monologues nic

(13:54):
so like so like, uh, the clip is of us
telling a kid to stab himself because we would stab
him and kill them, and then they'd have to do
a death scene on stage. We had a little like
in and out. I don't know, I'm gesturing on the
camera because no one can hear it.

Speaker 2 (14:10):
Retractable dagger.

Speaker 1 (14:11):
Yeah yeah yeah, so and then Lucas and I both
getting bored stabbing the kids. So while we talk, having
the kids stab himself a whole bunch of times. Good memories.
That that was a very good memory. Affair. Anyhow, that
was a bunny trail.

Speaker 2 (14:24):
Well, let us talk now about things that we have watched,
and let's just go ahead and save Pluribus for the
last little bit of it, simply because I know we
both have stuff to say about it. So did you
watch anything other than Pluribus?

Speaker 1 (14:38):
Yes, I've been trying to remember as we've been going
through continue to watch task Master. I'm in series three
working backwards, which was only series four was only like
five episodes or series three is only five episodes. Maybe
I'm in series two now. Anyhow, I'm almost fully caught up.
I didn't watch this week's new episode for series twenty,

(14:59):
but uh, because this week's been crazy. I've been watching
Venture Brothers in my in my group watch on Thursday nights. However,
this upcoming week we're switching to mighty nine, which technically
the first episodes out right now, but we're going to
start it next Thursday. And then I watched Deep Cover,

(15:20):
which was that movie with Bryce Dallas, Bryce Dallas Howard
and lo Orlando Bloom and Nick Oh, the one.

Speaker 2 (15:30):
Where there they're improvisers and they get picked to be
part of like almost like a like a law enforcement thing.

Speaker 1 (15:37):
Yeah, yeah, yeah. So the improvis is that get picked
to be a part of a drug sting and then
ridiculousness ensues. What I'll say is everybody really committed to
the character they were playing, and that was very funny,
even though, like the circumstances were so absurd, right, So

(15:59):
everybody did a great jow. They are a really amazing
cast of people in there, and several people from task
Master who I had no idea who they were until
they were on task Master were in it, not including
Nick Muhammad who was also on task Master. Is that
his correct name? Am I getting it right?

Speaker 2 (16:16):
I believe? So I don't have it open, so I
can't tell you, yes, yes I am.

Speaker 1 (16:22):
And so, like it was fun, it was goofy. It
wasn't like an amazing movie, but it was fun enough.

Speaker 2 (16:28):
It was like entertaining.

Speaker 1 (16:30):
It was. It was an entertaining, more ridiculous, almost version
of Barry.

Speaker 2 (16:36):
I started watching it, and then like at the very beginning,
there was a scene I think it was taking place
in an office, and I got a cringe twinge and
bailed immediately, and I think, oh no, yeah, no, And
I can't even remember what it was that just I
was like it was something that was there was a
moment where I'm just like, oh, I'm not ready to

(16:57):
watch this yet, like one of those where it's just
like I'm not in the right head space to watch it,
which is wild, Like it's wild to be that way
for a comedy, but that is how I felt at
the time.

Speaker 1 (17:08):
Yeah, I I I mean it's not great cinema, right,
and it is a little bit cringey, Like the whole
concept's a little bit cringey.

Speaker 2 (17:21):
So, I mean improv in itself gets cringey. It's I
love improv. I think improv. I think great improv is
some of the most entertaining stuff you can watch. Bad
improv can also be some of the most entertaining stuff
you can watch, but for totally different reasons, but for sure.
But yeah, there's like cringe is like an intrinsic part

(17:42):
of improv, I feel, Yeah, and you have to surrender
yourself to that as an improviser and not be afraid
of it, or else you're not really gonna entertain anyone.

Speaker 1 (17:53):
The entire movie starts with some quote about like having
to be willing to die for comedy.

Speaker 2 (18:00):
Yeah, So and that.

Speaker 1 (18:01):
Is I mean, that is kind of true. You are
funniest when you fully commit to something and stop caring
about whether you're gonna look ridiculous or not.

Speaker 2 (18:11):
Well, for me, what I watched besides Pluribus where Well,
I listened to the first two episodes of Once We
Were Spacemen, which is the podcast by Nathan Fillion and
Alan Tudik who were both in Firefly. That's where they
first met and they've been friends ever since. And yeah,

(18:32):
it's like, it's just like what a good podcast is.
It's like you're in the room while they're having a conversation.
The second episode has Jewel State as a guest, and
she's delightful too. Actually has a much more serious conversation
in the second one, And by serious, I don't mean
like like dour or anything like that. It's just they

(18:54):
actually talk a lot about the industry and what it's
like to work within it and how challenging it can be.
And it was just really a great conversation to hear
from people who are working actors. And I also I
watched I started watching Harley Quinn again. You might remember

(19:15):
I was watching that series for a long.

Speaker 1 (19:16):
Time and I forgot you hadn't finished it. No.

Speaker 2 (19:18):
But now I'm in the final well, the most recent season,
season five. I'm in it. Have not finished it, but
I'm enjoying it. I watch the first three episodes of
Welcome to darry the IT prequel, and I am of
a mixed opinion on that one. Parts of it I
think are really good, parts of it I think are

(19:42):
really bad, and parts of it I think are totally
perplexing and I don't understand. But I can't really talk
about what I thought was really bad without getting into spoilers.
So rather than rather than spoil stuff and other people
might think it's fine, but I thought it was dumb.

(20:04):
And here's the unfortunate thing, Ariel, It's one of the
major plot through lines of the series that I think
is dumb. It's not like it's like, oh, this character
is dumb, or this little side story is dumb. No,
this is a main storyline for the series, and I
think it's super dumb.

Speaker 1 (20:25):
That's unfortunate. I mean, but you know, you and I
have both talked about how we're like, we don't really
feel like this is necessary in the first place.

Speaker 2 (20:36):
So yeah, I because you already know where this story goes, right,
you already know that that penny Wise isn't going to
be defeated at the end of this series, because he
comes back for it both chapter one and chapter two,
so you know they can't get rid of him. But
that raises other questions based upon things that are happening,

(20:57):
where you're like, yeah, they don't get rid of him,
but this other thing is going on, and I don't
understand how it can resolve and then not be something
that anyone knows anything about by the time it Chapter
one comes around, like you cannot just cover it up
kind of thing. And I get that in dairy people

(21:22):
are are kind of made to ignore and forget stuff,
and that's part of the magic of penny Wise, like
part of its influence. But even so, it's just one
of those things where I'm like, this makes no gosh
darn sense, but anyway, I'm not gonna spoil it so
other people might really enjoy it, and there's nothing wrong
with that. I just found it really dumb. And then

(21:45):
the other thing we both watched, which is plur of Us.
This was the this is the series that Vince Gilligan
is doing. He's the creator of Breaking Bad and Better
Call Saul Hey. There ellen c Family. This is Jonathan
from the editor Bay, and I'm just coming in to
say when we recorded this, I dropped a bunch of

(22:08):
spoilerish stuff for the series, and upon re listening, I
felt like that was not the right way to go.
It robs people of the joy of discovery. So we're
going to skip ahead to a later part of the
conversation that's less spoilery, and big props to Ariel for,
you know, avoiding spoilers in the first place.

Speaker 1 (22:29):
And I will say, like the log line that they
came out before the first episode was world's been affected
by a virus that makes everybody feel a certain way
and only one person can save it.

Speaker 2 (22:41):
Right, Yeah, happy and optimistic.

Speaker 1 (22:43):
Yeah. And so going in I was like, Okay, well
what do I think's going to happen? And as I watched,
I'm like, oh, I think I know what's going to happen.
And then that wasn't what happened throughout it. But there
are so many, just like questions have from watching it.

Speaker 2 (23:02):
Yeah, I think a big one is just the word
why Why? Yeah, but without spoiling anything, why is a
very big question that has not even been asked yet.

Speaker 1 (23:16):
Yeah, So so like one of the one of the
theories as to why they discredit in the first episode.

Speaker 2 (23:25):
But that could just be a lie.

Speaker 1 (23:28):
Yeah, yeah, and we don't either, like we have some
of the how, they give you some of the how,
but they don't they don't. Yeah, but they don't give
you the why. And there are so many possibilities. And
then just also like and maybe we should just put
it like a very minor spoiler alert, because I do
feel like it's best to go into the show completely blind.

(23:52):
But I some of so just like some of the
logistics of how the affected work, because there are already
cracks showing by the end of the second episode. I
think that might be my personal perception. It's a really
good show. I recommend it there. It does have some

(24:12):
very very dark bits, like it started off darker than
I expected, but by Vince Gilligan, who did while he
did Handcock, he also did Breaking Bad and Better Call Saul.
But it also had good moments of levity in there,
so I don't feel like it was a slog to watch.
I don't remember where I was going with this.

Speaker 2 (24:35):
Yeah, I'm not gonna say anymore because I've already been like,
like you said, I've already been treading close to if
not on and yeah or across the line for spoilers.
But I've got lots of thoughts, and so maybe some
point you and I can just chat, just chat, not
even for sure recording, to talk about our thoughts, because

(24:55):
I've got a lot of them. Yeah, highly recommended. It
is so are very entertaining. I know that some people
had some issues with some of the montage stuff because
it slows down the pacing, but that's really Vince Gilligan's
kind of millieu. He loves, he loves showing procedural tasks.

Speaker 1 (25:17):
Yeah. I I had a couple of friends who had
some other critiques about the plotline. But I think it's
just really interesting because how everybody can view the same
media vastly differently, which is interesting considering the tone and

(25:37):
the theme of the show. Uh I I was watching
him like, is this commentary on social media a little
bit too at certain points? I'm sure it is, but
uh yeah, please watch it if you like sci fi.
And then also if you do watch it, call the numbers.

Speaker 2 (25:57):
Yes, if you see if you see a phone num,
that's something you can call and you will you will
get a little chuckle. Yeah, a little like almost like
a little Easter egg. It's on Apple TV. If you're
not familiar, it's it's an Apple TV show. So I
think it's worth checking out Apple TV to watch this.

(26:20):
And there's a couple of other stuff things on Apple
TV that are worth watching.

Speaker 1 (26:24):
Oh yeah, Severance Murder bought Ted Lasso. Yeah, we're going
to talk about a little bit later.

Speaker 2 (26:31):
Yeah, so let's let's, I guess segue on over into
our famous segment of Hey, don't take too long to
talk about that, Okay, So I'll start Okay, After two seasons,
Peacock is pulling the plug on poker Face. That's the
series that sees Natasha Leone as Charlie Kel, a woman

(26:52):
who knows if someone is telling a lie. Show creator
Ryan Johnson is shopping the series around, but if it
does come back, it will not be with Leon as
the title character. Instead, and I swear I'm not making
this up. They're looking at Peter Dinklic So how is
that going to work? Well, it's a mystery, but Johnson
seems pretty comfortable with those.

Speaker 1 (27:14):
Interesting Another interesting piece of news is that Disney is
pairing up with Hideo Kojima to do a Death Stranding
anime cartoon series. It's going to have I believe, some
of the game people, but also a lot of new characters,
maybe all new characters. I might have misread the article wrong.

(27:38):
They Disney approached Kojimo about it when they were working
on like another documentary sort of a thing feature, and
he seems very excited about it. I feel like just
straining is so weird. I can't even picture what the
anime would be like.

Speaker 2 (27:52):
Colin Farrell will star in an adaptation of a comic
book but hasn't even come out yet. The Russo Brothers
will produce a film Ordained about a priest who has
a dark past and who gets pulled into mafia drama
after a mob boss confesses his crimes when he thinks
he's about to die, but then the mob boss survives.
Now the priest knows too much. That priest also punches,

(28:16):
and his Colin Ferrell, and I'm sure he's gonna minister
extreme function to the face.

Speaker 1 (28:23):
He should have been like that priest also punches and
he's feral Colin.

Speaker 2 (28:27):
It's true that that would have been better.

Speaker 1 (28:31):
No, you did great. I'm sorry. I shouldn't put jokes
in your thirty seconds or less, Michael Gianni Chigio, I
should have looked up how to pronounce his name. Is
doing a second were Wolf by Night for Disney. Plus
that was a Halloween special that came out a couple
of years ago with man thing in it, which was

(28:56):
the best part of it. And I am excited about
this sequel. Like at the end of this tiny short
like movie that they made, I was like, I wouldn't
mind another. So now we're getting another, maybe by Halloween
twenty twenty six, maybe by twenty twenty seven.

Speaker 2 (29:14):
Yeah, yeah, there's no mention on timing yet. Well back
on the matter of preachers kicking butt, Ryan Reynolds wants
to reboot a nineteen seventy four action comedy film titled
Thunderbolt and lightfunt So. In the original movie, Clint Eastwood
plays Thunderbolt, who is a bank robber, but he's disguised
himself as a preacher and he ends up teaming up
with a young thief named Lightfoot played by Jeff Bridges,

(29:38):
and then a chaotic series of misadventures ensues and ultimately
it ends tragically. Spoiler alert speculation has Reynolds and you
Jackman teaming up for the remake.

Speaker 1 (29:52):
Speaking of team well, no, that's not a good segue.
We're going to go to the next thing, which is
that James Gunn has announced that dcu's Man Tomorrow, which
is the next Superman movie, is coming out on July nine,
twenty seven. That's pretty quick considering we just got the
first one this Yearlex Luthor's going to have his mecha
mecha suit, and also they're going to start filming in

(30:16):
Georgia in January. I did hear recently that this was
kind of a little bit up in the air because
Discovery might be selling again and they weren't sure of
the future of the DCU. But I'm hoping that this
news is positive and that we will in fact get
it because I want to audition for it.

Speaker 2 (30:37):
Film Studio saidam Barrow and Argentic Productions will produce a
folk horror film titled Thaw. The plot of the movie
follows an American documentary filmmaker who travels to Siberia to
cover the thawing perma frost, but they also witness a
teenager going through a shamanic initiation and it's said to

(30:57):
be kind of like a demonic possession movie, but with
a totally different cultural approach, which really sounds fascinating to me.
So I hope this sees the light of day.

Speaker 1 (31:10):
Something else that is finally going to see the light
of day is the Lucas Museum of Narrative Art. George
Lucas and his wife are founding a museum of the
people's art. It's opening. It's had a bunch of delays,
but it is actually opening in September twenty second of

(31:31):
twenty twenty six, so this of next year. I was like,
this year, No, it's only twenty twenty five, aerial, Oh
my goodness, what is time?

Speaker 2 (31:38):
It's an illusion. Eli Roth's next project is a film
titled ice Cream Man, which apparently is not related to
the Clint Howard movie from the nineteen nineties. Roth says
it's his quote most terrifying and insane film to date
end quote, and considering his movies include Hostile, The Green Inferno,
and of course Borderline, that is a big claim. The

(32:02):
plot involves the people in a small town going bonkers
after eating goodies from a sinister ice cream man, which
sounds absolutely chilling.

Speaker 1 (32:14):
Lastly, lastly, we are getting a Anne Rice movie that
is not vampires. We're getting a movie of Cry to Heaven,
which is about a musician who becomes a Christrati in
the eighteenth century of Italy to pursue fame. The interesting

(32:36):
news about it is that it is starring Adele.

Speaker 2 (32:40):
Yeah about it. I think I think the poster for
this should be should have the subtitle.

Speaker 1 (32:45):
Ah nuts, that's very funny.

Speaker 2 (32:50):
Yeah. I an Rice is a weird person, That's all
I have to say about that. Her fascination with Castradi
is a little on the side.

Speaker 1 (33:00):
But I've not read her books, so I don't know.
I don't know her fascination with that. All I all
I know is that SNL did a really funny skit.

Speaker 2 (33:12):
Oh yeah with Ariana Grande.

Speaker 1 (33:14):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (33:15):
Yeah. Well, moving on to stuff that doesn't quite fit
our lineup for whatever reason, We've got a few trailers
to talk about. First up is a trailer called MERV
M E r V.

Speaker 1 (33:30):
Yeah. It stars che Charlie.

Speaker 2 (33:32):
Cox, Charlie Cos Let's.

Speaker 1 (33:36):
Go to Candy Mountain Charlie Cox, Come on, stars Charlie
Cox aka Daredevil and Zoe Deshanel Is that correct?

Speaker 2 (33:47):
Yes? Yes?

Speaker 1 (33:49):
Who was a new Girl?

Speaker 2 (33:51):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (33:51):
And Elf as a couple who breaks up and shares
custody of their dog, and their dog gets depression, and
so they go on an accidental group vacation, well half accidental, Yeah,
and the dog brings them back together.

Speaker 2 (34:08):
Yeah. I wrote, the dog is unhappy with the change
in his life, and so, in an effort to make
the dog happy, Russ Charlie Cox's character takes the dog
on a beach trip and Anna Zoey Deschnal's character shows
up to keep an eye on things. And then I wrote,
will they fall back in love and get back together

(34:28):
or will they put down the dog? We'll find out
on December tenth on Prime Video.

Speaker 1 (34:33):
They better not put down the dog.

Speaker 2 (34:35):
They woe. If you look at the synopsis in like
the webpage for this thing, it is so sappy that
they are not They're not going to euthanize the dog.

Speaker 1 (34:45):
Also, I say this as a person who has a
huge heart for animals. Talk about absurd concepts, because you
should never stay together for an animal. Now, if you
broke up for a reason, that animal shouldn't.

Speaker 2 (35:00):
Be But maybe what happens is like the animal reminds
them of what they liked about each other. In the
first place, and that reminders what causes them to fall
back in love. I think it's sappy, which is why
I said put down the dog. I would never ever
actually advocate for that. I love dogs, I know. Next up,

(35:22):
we got a trailer, another trailer, a full trailer for
Marty Supreme. We've talked about this movie. I think we
got a teaser like months ago. But Marty Supreme is
a film with Timothy Challamey playing the title character who Marty,
who is has incredible self confidence, possibly to the point

(35:42):
of insanity.

Speaker 1 (35:44):
Yeah, he is a ping pong player who's a table
tennis player, no, let's call it ping pong, who's trying
to get ahead in life, and I think goes into crime.

Speaker 2 (36:00):
Well no, I think what it is is that he's
trying to become like a legitimate sports like figure, but
it's for a sport that no one really considers a sport,
right And Uh, the crime part I don't think is
really crime. It's more like he's he's like a pool hustler,
except he's a ping pong hustler, where he's he's hustling

(36:22):
people into betting against him, and then he turns on
his abilities. Uh, and that's just figuratively speaking, he shows
that he's actually really really good.

Speaker 1 (36:32):
It's sort of he's not a robot. He can't just
flip the ping pong switch.

Speaker 2 (36:36):
I mean, not as far as I know, but who knows.
We go back to the Castrati, the no, the the
Ariel gave me such a look, the uh no the
But it's like it's like white men can't jump, or
you know, uh, what was it? What was the color
of money? You know movie? No movies where someone is

(37:00):
fooling opponents into betting against them and then showing that
they're actually quite good. It's like that scene in ted Lasso.
But no, it looks dumb to me, Like I'm getting
the feeling that it's one of those movies where it's
like this, this character has such a strong belief in

(37:20):
himself and so much confidence he's manifesting his future. And
to me, that's a really naive kind of message. And
maybe that's not what the movie is saying at all.
Maybe that's not how it turns out. It's just the
way the trailer strikes me. I would much prefer to
see a trailer where this guy has this incredible belief

(37:41):
in himself. And confidence in himself and then doesn't achieve
what he believes he's going to achieve because I don't
like reinforcing delusions of grandeur.

Speaker 1 (37:54):
I mean, I can see that. I honestly, when I
watch this show, I'm like, didn't we already have a
movie about this person? But I also thought it was
a real person? But it's not.

Speaker 2 (38:02):
No, it may have been inspired by a ping punk champion,
but it's not about a specific person. It comes out
Christmas Day. Also, two and a half hours long aerial.

Speaker 1 (38:13):
Why would anybody see this on Christmas?

Speaker 2 (38:16):
For two and a half hours two and a half
hours of watching a guy who refuses to acknowledge that
his dreams are far fetched.

Speaker 1 (38:27):
I mean, but here's the thing. There are a lot
of people who do achieve success because despite everybody telling
them no, because they have the tenacity, right, that does happen,
But it doesn't happen for everybody.

Speaker 2 (38:42):
Yeah. Also, I mean it just comes across. He comes
across to me in the trailer like a psychopath. And
maybe that's what it's supposed to be.

Speaker 1 (38:49):
He comes across yeah, a little bit, at least a
little bit narcissistic.

Speaker 2 (38:55):
Yeah, yeah, anyway, maybe we're just totally off bait with
our assumptions. But yeah, oh, by the way, it's a
period peace film because it's set in the nineteen fifties.

Speaker 1 (39:06):
Next, I thought you're gonna say nineteen nineties, and I
was going to have to punch you through the computer.

Speaker 2 (39:11):
I heard. I heard a Nirvana song played on a
classic rock radio station last weekend.

Speaker 1 (39:17):
So you are on social media, but I saw a
gen z or try on some historically accurate hip huggers
from the two thousands. I'm like, that's not far enough away.
You said historically accurate from the eighties. I would forgive you,
but twenty years feels.

Speaker 2 (39:34):
Two too close. Yeah. Well, next up, we got a
trailer for season two of a series called The Night Manager.
This is kind of phenomenal because series one came out
in twenty sixteen.

Speaker 1 (39:49):
No wonder I didn't know about it.

Speaker 2 (39:51):
Yeah, almost a decade ago. It stars Tom Hittleston and
Olivia Coleman, but the first season also had Hugh Laurie
It as an antagonist, and the general premise is that
Tom Hidlston's case. This is, by the way, is based
off a novel from like the early nineties James Bond. No, no, no,
not James Bond. No, it's it's a book from nineteen

(40:15):
ninety three, and the James Bond books were written way
before that. Anyway. Hillston plays a retired soldier who is
now the night manager for a luxury hotel and he
kind of gets pulled into working with an intelligence agency

(40:36):
in English intelligence agency in order to stop like super
state level criminal activities. Like the first season it was
arms dealers, and I think in the second season it's
drug the drug trade in Colombia. And it looks super slick,
like the trailer looks very spy ish movie kind of. Yeah,

(41:00):
it's a series, but it looks like a spy movie.

Speaker 1 (41:02):
It has a really good cast. Maybe I did know
about this and I completely forgot, but yeah.

Speaker 2 (41:08):
Well it comes out January eleventh on Amazon Prime. So yeah,
but it looks it looks good. It makes me curious.
I might go and watch the first season because I
was unaware of this, or if I was aware of it,
I had forgotten.

Speaker 1 (41:22):
Yeah I might as well. I do like a lot
of Tom Hittles and stuff, unlike the next thing. The
only reason that I have any vague interest or even
knowledge about it outside of Jonathan putting it in our
lineup is because I've heard the maclroys talk about it.
So previously, there was a movie with mister Bean Rowan
Atkinson where he fought a bee. That was the entire movie.

Speaker 2 (41:46):
Man Versus b It was a series.

Speaker 1 (41:49):
It was a series. A series, Oh, I thought it
was a movie. See this shows how little I know.

Speaker 2 (41:55):
It could have.

Speaker 1 (41:55):
I thought it was so foolish.

Speaker 2 (41:57):
I think it was like four episodes and each one
was like thirty minutes. So you add that up, it's
two hours. It's essentially a movie.

Speaker 1 (42:03):
Well, now we get a sequel, Man Versus Baby.

Speaker 2 (42:07):
Yeh, Yeah, he's leveled up and now his final boss
is tougher.

Speaker 1 (42:13):
Yeah, it's The opening scene shows a baby flying across
a room of its own volition at him, except for
it's not an antagonistic relationship.

Speaker 2 (42:22):
It seems like, well, the premise is that that he
is now working in a school, and the school had
a Nativity play and they had a real baby to
play the baby Jesus. But then the play's over and
nobody comes to pick up the baby. So there's an
abandoned baby and he ends up for reasons I don't

(42:46):
understand taking care of it instead of like turning the
baby over to like child services or something. Yeah. Yeah,
but yeah, and then he ends up landing a gig
of looking after a very expensive of house, which is
the same general plot as the first series, except in
that one, of course, it was a bee that was

(43:08):
aggravating him, and now he's got like a rogue baby
on the loose.

Speaker 1 (43:13):
Yeah, except except for it doesn't feel like it doesn't
feel like Man versus Baby from the trailer. It feels
like one man and a baby, the sad sequel to
Three Men and a Baby.

Speaker 2 (43:23):
Although it does look like at one point it might
be one man and two babies.

Speaker 1 (43:28):
Yeah. Yeah, And next the next movie is going to
be Man Versus Wife and it's just Roan Atkinson getting married.

Speaker 2 (43:33):
Yeah, I wrote down, Okay, So first of all, it
comes out December eleventh on Netflix. If you're really for
some Reasonmber fifth, No, December eleventh.

Speaker 1 (43:42):
That was last night.

Speaker 2 (43:43):
Last week was the fifth uh, and I wrote if
you want to hear people really be confused about this premise,
I recommend checking out the My Brother, My Brother and
Me episode Man Versus Kramer versus Wild versus Predator. That's
the title and like, you only have to listen to
the beginning. But that's the Mackelroy's going on about man
versus Baby, and not all of them are convinced that

(44:04):
it's a real thing at first.

Speaker 1 (44:07):
Yeah, I mean, I don't remember the names of the episode,
the title of the episodes where they talk about man
versus B. But it is some of the funniest podcasting
I've listened to in a while.

Speaker 2 (44:16):
I want to say that that took up half the
episode two like it was four. Yeah. Now, there have
been other my Brother, My Brother and the episodes where
they dedicated an entire episode to discussing a ridiculous movie.
But I think Man Versus B only got half an episode.

Speaker 1 (44:31):
Yeah, but I cried. I laughed so hard, unlike crying
for sadness, which is what you might do if you
watched the new Wuthering Heights.

Speaker 2 (44:41):
Uh what did so? We got a trailer for wathering Heights.
This movie comes out apparently Valentine's Day.

Speaker 1 (44:49):
I was joy.

Speaker 2 (44:51):
It says it in the trailer like it has like
in big letters across the entire screen. I'm curious what
you thought of this trailer because I have some thoughts.
But I don't want to. I don't want to influence you.

Speaker 1 (45:03):
So, first of all, I've never read Wathering Heights. Okay,
I've never watched I think there was an old Weathering
Heights movie and.

Speaker 2 (45:11):
Maybe you've heard the Kate Bush song Weathering Heights.

Speaker 1 (45:14):
I've heard the Kate Bush song because you have sung
it at karaoke many a time, and I've seen people
dance to it, and it's got a ridiculously amazing music video,
and it is a shame that they did not use
that song in either of the trailers. Agreed, But I
had to look up the premise of the of the

(45:36):
story because it's a little confusing from the trailer. Well, yeah,
as to what happened.

Speaker 2 (45:40):
The trailer seems to only focus on Volume one of
Weathering Heights. Okay, Wathering Heights ultimately is really a story
kind of about class warfare, classicism and revenge, like that's
really what Weathering Heights is about. But the trailer focuses
almost exclusively on the first part of the story, in

(46:05):
which Heathcliff, who is a foundling essentially who is being
raised by an upper class English family like Landed family Falls,
becomes enamored of a noble young lady named Catherine, and

(46:28):
she also becomes enamored of him, but the social distance
between the two is such that Catherine is reluctant to
pursue any kind of actual romance with him, and then
ultimately she ends up agreeing to marry someone else. This
Heathcliff takes this as a personal betrayal and leaves, only

(46:52):
to return years later mysteriously wealthy and seeking revenge and
seeking revenge. And but Catherine herself doesn't live that long,
like she's like if you heard listen to the song
Wuthering Heights by Kate Bush. That song is sung from
the perspective of Catherine's ghost.

Speaker 1 (47:13):
Yeah. Yeah, she dies and Heathcliffe goes insane because he's
seeing Catherine's ghost. I know that much.

Speaker 2 (47:19):
Yeah, he feels he feels responsible for her death, which
is fair because he partly is. Here's this This story,
by modern standards, is truly bonkers. Like by the time
you get to the end of it, Heathcliffe has had
a son. He gets married to the sister to the

(47:42):
man that Catherine got married to. Interesting, So Catherine marries
Edgar and Heathcliff marries I think Isabella if I'm not mistaken.
It's been a long time Edgar's sister. It's been a
lot of time since I've read Wuthering Heights. But anyway, Uh,
Heathcliffe has a son. Edgar and Catherine have a daughter, Kathy.

(48:06):
So Kathy and and Heathcliff's son are cousins. But they
do get married.

Speaker 1 (48:15):
I mean, that's not that uncommon.

Speaker 2 (48:17):
Well then Heathcliff today. Then Heathcliffe's son dies and she
gets married to her other cousin, like her cousin on
the other side of the family. So she gets married
to two different cousins. Kathy the younger.

Speaker 1 (48:34):
Is does it take place at a time period where
marrying your cousin was common practice for new bullies?

Speaker 2 (48:40):
I mean like late seventeen hundreds, early eighteen hundreds, Yeah,
you're the historian.

Speaker 1 (48:45):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (48:45):
But even so, like like she's running through that family
tree like a lumberjack. It is crazy.

Speaker 1 (48:54):
Yeah. So the trailer looked pretty schmexy, because I understand
the book it can be pretty schmexy.

Speaker 2 (48:59):
Not really, I don't know. No, that's the thing is
that this seems to be putting in way more Gothic
romance into the story than what is in the actual novel.
Like there's so much more abuse in the novel than romance.

Speaker 1 (49:15):
There's also some weird like Copola level imagery in the.

Speaker 2 (49:20):
Trailer, which we'll get we'll talk about Copola level imagery again.

Speaker 1 (49:23):
Before the Yeah, but like the bits were both. I
don't know if it's Edgar or if it's Heathcliff. But
there's like one bit where like there's a door with
human flesh in it, and then like maybe I missaw
the trailer.

Speaker 2 (49:37):
Yeah, maybe you're looking at a different movie. I don't know.
I don't remember. I don't remember the flesh door.

Speaker 1 (49:43):
There was a door and a guy licked it.

Speaker 2 (49:45):
Oh, no, you're right. Was it a door, was it
a wall? Either way, it was weird. It was weird.
He's licking wood wood paneling is but it looks like.

Speaker 1 (49:55):
A back to me. This is a trailer that I
was watching on my phone today. So so that's that's
what could have been the problem. But both he and
Catherine did it at one point in the trailer.

Speaker 2 (50:05):
I wrote that that there is it's a lot more
romanticized and eroticized than I anticipated based upon the novel.
It's not like I don't want to be ludicrous and say, like,
it's like if you saw an adaptation of Moby Dick,
but they put sex in it, It's not that ridiculous.

Speaker 1 (50:30):
But that's a title to pick to pair up with
that sentence.

Speaker 2 (50:33):
I was just trying to pick something that clearly should
not have sex in it. I mean, I mean, you could, yeah,
but I should it should No. I don't know. Maybe
it has been a very long time since I've read
Wuthering Heights, and perhaps I'm just forgetting like the real

(50:53):
romance element of it. To me, like the so much
of that story is based on the concepts of betrayal
and jealousy and vengeance and cruelty and abuse. That to
see a trailer that seems to focus way more on

(51:15):
the modest, ripping romance element just strikes me as not
being Wuthering Heights. But again, it's a trailer. It may
not be representative of the entire film. And it's very
possible that my memory is just not good enough, Like
maybe that stuff was in the book and I just forgot.

Speaker 1 (51:36):
I wouldn't be able to tell you. But that is
it for things that do not fit.

Speaker 2 (51:41):
So I suppose that means it is now time to
enter John boys are Hutch.

Speaker 1 (51:54):
Sorry.

Speaker 2 (51:55):
That was pretty impressive. I liked it. As always, I'll
begin by asking my beloved co host, did you watch
any of these?

Speaker 1 (52:06):
I wanted to, but I ran out of time.

Speaker 2 (52:07):
Fair enough, I think you could have watched you certainly, well,
you watched the teaser for one of these already, and
I think you could have watched all three and it
would have been fine. None of these I think would
have really tripped you up. The first one is Influencers,
which is a sequel to a twenty twenty two movie

(52:28):
called Influencer, so one letter off. Influencer was about a
character played by Cassandra Naud who proves to be a
total psychopath who befriends and then begins to kill like
influencers in an effort to just live off their lavish lifestyle.

(52:54):
Like she's a social parasite and a psychopath, and she
has no, like, no reservations in killing somebody in order
to be able to live this incredibly lavish lifestyle. And
at the end of the first movie, as I understand it,
having not watched it, by the way, but as I

(53:16):
understand it, she's left stranded on an Island. It's an
island where she had taken someone in order to kill
them there and they end up being able to escape
and leave her stranded on that island. But in the sequel,
she's found her way back and she's now preying upon
other influencers. Like she just has this very charismatic approach

(53:38):
and befriends people quickly, gets into their circle of trust,
and then abuses that like crazy in order to again
live this sort of lavish lifestyle. And there's lots of
like intrigue and stuff going on. This one comes out
in July twenty sixth I still need to see the

(54:00):
First Influencer, even though I know what happens in it,
I still need to see it just to see, like,
is it well made? Is it entertaining? Because this looks
good from a thriller perspective. It might be one of
those movies I watch and I just think, Wow, I'm
an old man and I don't identify with any of

(54:20):
these characters, but that's okay.

Speaker 1 (54:23):
I just want to know what CW stands.

Speaker 2 (54:24):
For CW that's the character name. Yeah, I don't know.
Next up, we have a trailer for a horror comedy film,
An animal attack horror comedy film called Drop Bear.

Speaker 1 (54:41):
Are you sure I could have watched this one?

Speaker 2 (54:43):
You could have? The first of all, the animals are
all very much clearly cg like, they don't look real,
and one of them looks very not real, but that's
on purpose. So this plays on the legendary drop bear,
which is an Australian joke. Essentially Australians would tell it

(55:04):
to kids to scare them or to tourists to trick them.
But it was this whole thing about this koala like
bear that lives in trees and drops down on people
and attacks them and kills them and eats them and
that kind of stuff. And in the trailer, that's what's
going on is there's this kind of low rent Australian

(55:26):
tour guide telling the story to some American tourists about
drop bears. But then it turns out that there are
some crazy chlamydia infected koalas, which that's a real thing.
It's a real thing Koalas can carry chlamydia who are
attacking people. There's also someone who's in a large koala

(55:48):
like costume, like a mascot or furry type costume. And
at first I was thinking this was supposed to actually
represent the drop bear in question. But on further reflection,
I'm like, oh, no, of course this is one of
the tour guides dressing up in a costume and an
effort to scare the tourists. Meanwhile, the real threat is

(56:10):
still in the trees above. This one's just listed as
coming soon. But yeah, you could have watched this and
you would have been okay, I think, because they don't
look like real koalas. Okay. The one that you probably
could not have watched, actually, now that I think about it,
because there is animal stuff in this one and there
wasn't in the teaser is the trailer for cold Storage.

(56:33):
We did mention this one earlier when we got a
teaser a few months ago, the stork. Yeah, but there's
a lot of animal stuff in this one, so I
recommend you don't watch it because there are animals that
are kind of taken over by the fungus. This is
it's essentially the same kind of concept as the Last

(56:55):
of Us, Right, there's this Yeah, that's say corps exactly,
and it takes over brain and then controls the organic
creature that it's taken over.

Speaker 1 (57:05):
I had a little bit had issues. There were some
animals in the first episode of Pluribus, and I had
some trouble with that too.

Speaker 2 (57:11):
Yeah, well this one has animals like a deer and
a cat that I've been taken over by the fungus.
So it's kind of upsetting. But it is a horror comedy.
It involves more emphasis on the horror, I think, but
there's comedic elements, like it's got a comedic kind of
tone to it. But it's about a couple of staff

(57:36):
at a storage facility. The storage facility has a branch
of it that includes like an old military storage area,
like a refrigerated military storage area that they open for
some reason. They might even have it in the trailer,
but I forget now. But that has the fungus in it.
The fungus gets out. Liam Neeson gets called in because

(57:58):
apparently he was part of the team that originally identified
and put the fungus into storage, and it turns into
kind of horror action shlock, not in a bad way.
The screenplay was written by David Kepp, who has a
heck of a record both good and bad, because he

(58:19):
wrote Jurassic Park. The screenplay for Jurassic Park Obviously, Michael
Crichton wrote the book, but he wrote the screenplay. He
wrote the screenplay for Mission Impossible for Death Becomes Her,
but he also wrote the screenplays for movies like Indiana,
Jones and The Kingdom of the Crystal Skull or Jurassic
Park The Lost World.

Speaker 1 (58:39):
I thought you were gonna say Shark Nato.

Speaker 2 (58:41):
No, No, not Asylum. The Asylum could not afford David Kep. Anyway,
I think it's a mixed bag. So I don't really
know where this one comes down and as far as
screenplays go, but it comes out February thirteenth. It also
is very gory, so is not your thing, then it's

(59:02):
probably not for you. But if you like gory zombie
type stuff, especially gory zombie type stuff that has a
little bit of of a humor to it. Nothing nothing
on the level like Shat of the Debt or anything
like that, but you know, has a little humor undertone,
then check out the trailer.

Speaker 1 (59:21):
Yeah. Also interesting for Leameson to be in a full
on horror movie. I don't know why, Yeah, I think it.

Speaker 2 (59:30):
Maybe maybe I can't think of another horror movie. Well, no,
he was in it was another Uh it wasn't really
a horror movie, but it was a thriller. He was
in what was it called The Gray Oh yeah, where
he was being stalked by wolves.

Speaker 1 (59:44):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (59:45):
Uh that, by the way, that's an intense movie. I
did watch it years ago. I barely remember it except thinking, wow,
this is intense.

Speaker 1 (59:53):
That's interesting to know. Because I heard the concept.

Speaker 2 (59:56):
I was like, it's not for you though, No, no,
not a movie where wolves are stalking a person, because
you know.

Speaker 1 (01:00:03):
The white thing is not even for me.

Speaker 2 (01:00:05):
So yeah, well, now we move on to things that
are actually part of our show for realsies, and once
again we're pasting the hour mark. But we start off
with a teaser for Toy Story five.

Speaker 1 (01:00:23):
Yeah. We had talked about this a little bit when
we first news were dropped about what it would be
about in a previous episode, but now we have the
trailer for it. It is all of the toys from
Toy Story, the main characters being scared of the new
essentially leap frog iPad that the kid gets.

Speaker 2 (01:00:46):
Yeah, the idea being that the kid gets this tablet.
Now they're not. Now, she's not gonna Bonnie being the kid,
She's not gonna be interested in playing with the toys anymore. Uh.
The thing that's got most Disney fans chatting is that
the of this teaser, it shows the various toys gasping

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in terror as they look at this tablet. The last
pair to gasp are Buzz, Lightyear and Woody. And if
you've seen Toy Story four, then you know why a
lot of Disney slash Pixar fans are wondering what the
heck happened.

Speaker 1 (01:01:23):
I don't think I did. I think the last Toy
Story I saw was three, so it did not register
to me that anything was wrong.

Speaker 2 (01:01:29):
Well, let me just put to you this way. It's
a surprise that Woody is there. Ah, it's honestly, it's
not a surprise because you're like, you can't do a
Toy Story movie without Woody. But it does mean they're
gonna have to explain how Woody is there, and they will,
like they've already.

Speaker 1 (01:01:47):
Addressed in four something He didn't get.

Speaker 2 (01:01:51):
Incinerated, but he he decides to be a lost toy.
He it's the equipal of running off to join the circus,
except he runs off to join bo Peep.

Speaker 1 (01:02:05):
I mean, I don't blame him. He's been through a lot,
but also my theory, like my initial I bet this
is what's going to happen, is that he hears about
this it's called lily Pad in the teaser instead of
leap Frog, and he has to go back to warn
his friends about it because he's seen the destruction it

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has waked on other kids in their critical thinking.

Speaker 2 (01:02:30):
Apparently this one's going to have Jesse being the character
who pulls everybody else back in. Okay, so she becomes
kind of the heart of this film from what I
have heard, But that's just what I've heard. Obviously, I
don't have anyone on the inside in Pixars, so I

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cannot confirm. But anyway, next up, very similar to Toy
Story five, like you know, oh yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:03:00):
Exactly the same almost. I don't know why they're both
coming out.

Speaker 2 (01:03:03):
Yeah, you could get a double feature. It's we got
a full trailer when we talked about this too, because
we even had a full episode named after this. But
it's it's Dracula a love tail, and I think I
think we called it in our past episode Luke Bassan's
Francis Ford Coppola's Bram Stoker's Dracula.

Speaker 1 (01:03:24):
Yes, uh, And they have not changed my mind.

Speaker 2 (01:03:28):
Same, So Luke Bassan, who I'll have more to say
about in a second. And it's not good, So prepare yourselves. Yeah, yeah, no,
it's not good. Prepare yourselves for that. He uh. Like
the first time we saw a teaser, the feeling that
I had and Ariel had too, is that a lot

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of the visuals, a lot of the style, the costuming,
the hairstyles, like, we're extremely evocative of Francis Ford Coppola's
nineteen ninety two version of Dracula, and it kind of
felt like Luke Bassan had never read the book but
had only seen the Coppola movie. Yeah, a lot of

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that still carries over because he includes the the preamble
about Dracula's origins, which is not in the novel at all,
but it is in Francis Ford Coppola's movie.

Speaker 1 (01:04:23):
So that kind of in a couple of Dracula movies
but it's.

Speaker 2 (01:04:27):
Not in the book. Like, yeah, him having him cursing
God for his wife, his wife's death and then being
cursed in return with vampirism, that was that was in
Coppola's version, but not in the book.

Speaker 1 (01:04:45):
I just think it was also in the Luke what's
his last name, he was guest Luke Evan's one.

Speaker 2 (01:04:57):
That would have also have been after the fred this
sport Copolay yeh ye yeah yeah, like Coppolas was ninety two.
So and there are a lot of there's a lot
of imagery in this trailer that is like again, like
the costumes almost look like a copy of Coppola's. However,
from what I understand, there is much more of a

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romance element thrown into this as well as like elements
of perfume a murder story, because apparently Dracula has this
magical perfume that draws women to him. In this version
of the story, it's got to cover up his scent somehow.
The reason why I find this distasteful, besides the fact

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that it looks like it's copying another artist's work, is
this is telling essentially, seems to be asking the story,
isn't Dracula deserving of love to And Dracula, of course,
is a predatory, predatory creature that didn't other people their agency,

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and Luke Bassan has come under multiple allegations of inappropriate
behavior to put it lightly, so, I.

Speaker 1 (01:06:13):
Know that that's really unfortunate to hear.

Speaker 2 (01:06:15):
Yeah, so a director who has this particular reputation, and
I should say nothing was ever held up in court.
But there are a lot of questions then doing a
movie about doesn't this guy deserve love? I mean, he's
just using his powers to dominate women? How is that bad?

Speaker 1 (01:06:36):
Like?

Speaker 2 (01:06:36):
Does it's not a good look? As the kids might.

Speaker 1 (01:06:39):
Say, Yeah, and you know maybe the guy who Dracula
was before he became Dracula did, but he ruined that.

Speaker 2 (01:06:49):
Yeah. Well, and this is it comes out February sixth.
I will not be seeing it because I have I
have deep concerns, both from an artistic and from just
an ethicalive, which is sad because I wouldn't mind seeing
christof Waltz playing what amounts to Van Helsing. He's not
Van Helsing in this story, but he's essentially Van Helsing.

Speaker 1 (01:07:12):
I mean, it's got a good cast.

Speaker 2 (01:07:14):
I just.

Speaker 1 (01:07:16):
Yeah, I'm not interested in watching it either. I do
think I am interested in watching Good Luck, Have Fun,
Don't Die though.

Speaker 2 (01:07:24):
Yeah the trailer it reminded me a little bit of
everything everywhere all at once, like a little bit. Yeah,
I had a lot of kind of wacky, crazy stuff
going on. We talked about this in a previous episode two.
But this is the movie in which Sam Rockwell plays
either somewhere from the future, sent back to the past

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in an effort to avoid an apocalypse created by artificial intelligence,
or he's a crazy person, but he's tasked with going
to this one diner and put together a team in
order to head off the AI apocalypse. And I want
to say, at least in one thing, I read that

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he's done this several times, like he keeps having to
try and make a team of different people to see
if it works, and what we see in the movie
is his latest and perhaps final attention.

Speaker 1 (01:08:24):
It also gives me whiffs of Future Man, which I
don't think you've watched yet. I have none, but I
think you would enjoy it. It's hard to find. It's
not really streaming. Many places you can buy episodes, but
you know you don't necessarily want to do that for
something you don't know if you're gonna Like, I am
glad to know because I had to look this up

(01:08:45):
because there is obviously depictions of AI into this movie,
and I was like, did they use AI to create
these depictions? They did not.

Speaker 2 (01:08:53):
That's great, reportedly, didn't I know. It was directed by
Gore Verbinski, who's also the guy who did the parts
of the kid be in Curse of the Black Pearl.
It's too bad they never went and made any other
parts of the Caribbean movies. Because I really liked that.

Speaker 1 (01:09:09):
Made like a second one, and the second one was okay, I.

Speaker 2 (01:09:12):
Don't think so. I think you might be wrong about that. No, no, no, no, no, no,
not listening.

Speaker 1 (01:09:17):
He also made The Ring and you liked that.

Speaker 2 (01:09:19):
I did like the Ring. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:09:21):
Then he also made The Lone Ranger.

Speaker 2 (01:09:23):
That was a big miss.

Speaker 1 (01:09:26):
Yeah, that was a huge miss. But he also made
The Secret Life of Walter Mitty, which I have not seen.
That was that was if it's the one with Matt
Dan what did it have that?

Speaker 2 (01:09:39):
Damn it? I don't think so. I'm mixing up. I'm
mixing that up with the Teller. I was mixing up
with the talented mister Ripley.

Speaker 1 (01:09:46):
H Yeah, it's the one with Ben Stiller. It was delightful.
I've never read The Secret Life of Walter Mitty or
the Secret Life of Walter Kitty, which is the children's
book version. Apparently according to my husband that he swears
he only knows about it because of that kid's book.
But it was a cute movie.

Speaker 2 (01:10:02):
Yeah, not the talented mister Ripley, which is a great movie,
but about someone who poses to be as someone else.
Another psychopath movie. Serah no, Serra no, okay, all right,
fair enough, Siera No. Definitely has some narcissistic issues. This movie,
by the way, comes out February thirteenth, So if you

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don't want to see Wuthering Heights, you can go see
Good Luck, Have Fun, Don't Die.

Speaker 1 (01:10:28):
I think that'll be my option.

Speaker 2 (01:10:31):
I hope this will be yet another film in which
at some point Sam Rockwell dances.

Speaker 1 (01:10:39):
Yes, yeah, Sam Rockwell's I'm so glad I got to
see him perform live, even if it wasn't a not
great play by an even less great playwright.

Speaker 2 (01:10:51):
What was it that you saw him in?

Speaker 1 (01:10:52):
American Buffalo?

Speaker 2 (01:10:54):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (01:10:54):
Okay, by the same guy who wrote Glengarry Glenn.

Speaker 2 (01:10:57):
Ross Oh maam itt.

Speaker 1 (01:10:59):
Yeah, I don't care for Mammut and American Buffalo was
a whatever kind of a play. But watching watching Sam
Rockwell and Lawrence Fishburne from like seven rows back was insane.

Speaker 2 (01:11:15):
Yeah. I think Rockwell is an incredibly talented actor and
he comes across as just kind of a cool, weird guy,
and I dig that, Like, I hope he's a nice person.
I mean, obviously, I hope he. I hope he's happy
because he makes other people happy with his work.

Speaker 1 (01:11:34):
Yeah. Well, this next thing we're talking about make you happy.
The Super Mario Galaxy movie.

Speaker 2 (01:11:41):
Don't know never saw the first Super Mario movie, did you? No? Okay?

Speaker 1 (01:11:48):
I did sing Peaches by Jack Black for King Bowser
in Pirates who Don't Do Anything mashup. That's the closest
I've gotten to.

Speaker 2 (01:11:56):
The movie, of course you did. I know my niece
has loved it. I have not seen it because because
my niece also would sing Peaches when that movie first
came out, I have not seen it. I I thought
it looked okay. I kind of didn't care for the
fact that Chris Pratt was voicing Mario.

Speaker 1 (01:12:16):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:12:17):
I was just like, why am But but Charlie Day
as Luigi sounded like that was fine. And Jack Black
Taylor Joy Yeah, and Jack Black as Bowser. So we
got a trailer for Super Mario Galaxy movie. Since I
haven't seen the first one, I didn't realize that. Apparently
I'm guessing at the end of the movie, they shrink

(01:12:37):
Bowser down.

Speaker 1 (01:12:39):
I guess so this trailer.

Speaker 2 (01:12:42):
Yeah, because he's Bowser is tiny and living in a
little dollhouse. And the antagonist of this one appears to
be Bowser Junior, at least in the little trailer that
we got. Uh. And they also introduced the other princess, Rosalind.

Speaker 1 (01:12:59):
Okay ye, yeah, I I wish sometimes that I could
be shrunk down and put into a little castle to live.

Speaker 2 (01:13:09):
That sounds I don't object to that concept either. Honestly,
this comes out April third. I'm sure if you were
a fan of the first one, this will appeal to you.
It looks it looks cute. I have no objections to it.
I just still haven't seen the first one, so I
don't feel a deep need to see this one either.

Speaker 1 (01:13:29):
Yeah, but I think my nephews liked it as well.
The next thing I thought for sure we were not
getting a second season of but now that we are,
I can go back and watch the first season, which
is Monarch Legacy of Monsters for Apple TV. Oh my gosh,
I am so excited. You made my week, Jonathan.

Speaker 2 (01:13:49):
Yeah. It comes out February twenty seventh. There will be
ten episodes in this season two, and King Kong will
feature in it. Apparently, King I guess it's a spoiler
for you, Ariel, but apparently.

Speaker 1 (01:14:02):
I watched the trailer.

Speaker 2 (01:14:04):
Yeah, I think Kong only appears like in a moment
in the last episode of season one from what I understand,
and then season two has a lot of Kong action
in it. I didn't remember that this was a thing, Like,
I'm sure we talked about it, but I sure as

(01:14:24):
heck have no Like when this came up, I was like,
there's a season one.

Speaker 1 (01:14:29):
Yeah, we did talk about it way way back, and
then I was able before I had long before I
had Apple TV, which thank you to our listener who
encouraged me to get it, because good choice. I'm really
enjoying Apple TV's catalog of entertainment. Far more hits than
misses for me. I got to watch it on a plane.

(01:14:54):
I got to watch the first episode and a half
on a plane, and it was really cool, cool because
even though the monsters were as central theme, they weren't
the main character of those first two episodes. It kind
of focused on the mystery around the monsters and the
people who were being affected. By the monsters, and there

(01:15:14):
were some time jumps and it felt very much like Lost.
The things that I liked about Lost in this series.
But I stopped watching it because I thought we weren't
going to get a season two. But we are, and
I was so excited.

Speaker 2 (01:15:28):
Yeah, that's cool. I'm glad you're excited. I can't wait
to hear what you think about it once you catch
up through season one and then start season two. You
got a couple of months.

Speaker 1 (01:15:37):
So the way that I'm plowing through TV, the hardest
things for me are going to be watching Frankenstein in
twelf night, because it's harder for me when I have
time to watch television is often the same time when
my spouse has time to watch television. And he's not
as big into the classic Monsters as I am. He
always found them a little cheesy and plane like not

(01:16:01):
captivating stories. Not to say that he hasn't found stories
with those characters captivating, but so I'll probably watch be
watching Frankenstein by myself. And he's not a big Shakespeare
fan exception of improvised Shakespeare that was phenomenal.

Speaker 2 (01:16:15):
Well, I'm sure he'll find yet another version of Bruce
Wayne seeing his parents get murdered in cry Alley for
him to occupy his time.

Speaker 1 (01:16:25):
He does love Batman. He does love Batman's.

Speaker 2 (01:16:30):
I'm like he has no tolerance for the classic monsters,
but he just can't get enough of seeing young Bruce
Wayne watch his parents get murdered.

Speaker 1 (01:16:38):
I mean no, he actually he actually does get really
tired of that. He's like, that's been done. Do a
different story with Batman, Like you don't just like the
same with like the Spider Man. You don't need to
see Uncle Ben die at the beginning of Every Spider
Man to get the count.

Speaker 2 (01:16:54):
You don't even know if there is an Uncle Ben
in the MCU version.

Speaker 1 (01:16:58):
Yeah, I mean they kind of similar ground eventually.

Speaker 2 (01:17:02):
But yeah, but you the only person who ever says
with great power comes great responsibility is Aunt May and
and then and then yeah, just before there is no
more Aunt May. Yeah, so spoiler for maybe it's been
out for years, we're about feel that one.

Speaker 1 (01:17:22):
Yeah, it doesn't feel like it's been years, but it
has been definitely been long enough to talk about. But yeah, no,
like he likes Batman. He likes Batman as a character
and a concept of a character, and some of the
really cool things they've done with that character and with
the villains in it, because the world around Batman is
pretty interesting at times, but he does get tired of
always always seeing the pearls fall down into the alleyway.

Speaker 2 (01:17:45):
Yeah, yeah, someonet. I mean that that's been done so
much that there been like there's an episode of Harley
Quinn that's joking on that, right, that's like the whole
central joke, dark dark joke. Next up, we got a
trailer for season three of One Law, which is another
Apple TV series. I have not watched this one. It's

(01:18:09):
a sci fi fantasy series. It's based off a series
of books, and so I watched this and I included
it because it very much is representative of the genres
we talk about. But I'd be lying if I told
you I understood anything that was going on.

Speaker 1 (01:18:27):
So I did not remember. I was like, One Law,
What the heck is One Law? There's season three? Why
are we talking about season three? And then when I
watched the trailer, I looked it up, but I'm like,
this does look vaguely familiar, and not just because it
feels like I guess if it's getting a third season,
a more successful successful version of Disney's Strange World. But

(01:18:49):
I do remember we talked about the first season a
while back. I couldn't tell you when because time has
time as o'clock and I have no hands. I don't
know whatever that phrase is anyhow, I.

Speaker 2 (01:19:03):
Can't even begin to guess.

Speaker 1 (01:19:06):
Yeah, but it was about a woman who had to
leave like her under under was coming out around the
same time, I think as Fallout, or I thought it was,
but it couldn't be if we're in season three already.
About a woman who lives in an underground bunker and
has to come out and discovers that Earth is now
this inhabited by all of these alien to her, alien

(01:19:29):
creatures that used to not exist there, whether through evolution
or mutation or invasion, I don't know, but then just
finding that maybe everything on the surface is not as
bad as she was raised to believe. So I do
remember seeing something about that and thinking it looked cool,

(01:19:50):
and then apparently it completely left my brain because now
we're on season three.

Speaker 2 (01:19:53):
Yeah. In this one, there appears to be a rapidly
approaching confrontation between two massive forces, and meanwhile the main
character is convinced that both sides actually want the same thing,
and so she's trying to find a way to possibly
de escalate the situation and have everyone realize that their

(01:20:18):
points of view are more similar than they believe them
to be. That's what I got from this trailer. But again,
I've not watched any of this. I haven't read the books,
so I'm coming at this from significant amount of ignorance.
I know that it comes out on Apple TV on
November twenty sixth, and if you are a fan of

(01:20:41):
this series, I mean, this is the conclusion, and it
looks like it's really building to something big. It's just
being ignorant. Most of it went over my head, which
is not the fault of the series. That's my fault.

Speaker 1 (01:20:55):
Yeah, if I can remember, I'll watch it because I
did want to watch it, But then we're going to end.

Speaker 2 (01:21:03):
With it.

Speaker 1 (01:21:05):
Was my favorite news of the week until I learned
about season two of Monarch Legacy of Monsters, which is
we got an official trailer for Fallout season two that
I am so very excited for.

Speaker 2 (01:21:18):
Me too. The first season I really liked a lot.
I wouldn't call it the perfect television adaptation of Fallout,
but it was darn close. It was, and largely helped
by phenomenal performances like Goggins and Parnell.

Speaker 1 (01:21:36):
And I think it's like the most grounded performance I've
seen of Walter Gaggins, which is weird to say, but
I really love it.

Speaker 2 (01:21:45):
He's great as the goal Walton Gogs.

Speaker 1 (01:21:48):
Yeah he's graised Walters.

Speaker 2 (01:21:51):
Yeah, he's graised the goal. The Pernelle as Lucy is
also so good. I had not, as far as I know,
I had not seen her and anything else, or if
I had, I didn't know it was her because I
never watched Yellow Jackets or anything like that. And I
just was completely enamored of her performance, and then I

(01:22:13):
watched press Junkets with her, and then I just became
a huge fan of just her as a person, because
she seems like the kind of person, Like she seems
like the kind of person that would just be fun
to hang out with, Like, you know, you're going to
be laughing your butt off, and you're probably gonna get
into some trouble, not like serious trouble, but like the

(01:22:34):
trouble that's fun to talk about maybe six months later.

Speaker 1 (01:22:39):
Yeah, yeah, I mean, but that's yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:22:42):
Sorry, no, no, you're fine. I was gonna say though
the trailer itself looks great, it's it's largely set in
New Vegas, which that's kind of where the first season
was leading us too. You see a death claw at
one point in this trailer. You see Lucy wielding a
power fist at one point. Uh, there's clearly going to

(01:23:05):
be more with mister House, who plays a big part
in fall Out New Vegas. I think I read something somewhere,
and I don't know if this was official, but I
read something somewhere that this takes place something like seven
years after the events of Fallout New Vegas the game,
which is interesting also because, like, if you play the game,

(01:23:28):
you have to make decisions that determine the fate of
the Mojave wasteland, right, like the things you choose that
that determines what direction you go in. And you can
like side with mister House, you can side with a
faction called Kaiser's Legion, which are they are They make

(01:23:48):
all the other bad guys look tame in comparison, or
you can kind of go your own way, you know, Yeah,
but I don't know which. I mean. It has to
be either mister House or go your own way in
some manner.

Speaker 1 (01:24:07):
Yeah, I just it's I love that this is a
I love this show, like you said, for stand up performances,
but not even from the main characters. There's a bunch
of tertiary characters who are actress that I love. But
they're those actors that were in that thing, you know,
not necessarily go oh, I know who. Yeah, like moyses Arius,
who plays Lucy's brother, phenomenal performance. I know him from Freakin'

(01:24:34):
I don't know if it was like Hannah Montana but
some Disney show, so great performance. He was also in
King of Staten Island. Zach Cherry's in it from Severance.
Leslie Ugghams, which is again a name you may not recognize,
but she plays blind Aul in Deadpool. Dale Dickey is
another actress who I love. Who, Like, I mean, just

(01:24:55):
so many good people that I'm so glad to see, Like,
not huge name act but actors who I really love
their body of work.

Speaker 2 (01:25:03):
Yeah. Yeah, people who who consistently deliver solid performances and
elevate the things that they're in, even if they're not
like carrying the film or series or whatever. Yeah, I
think that, Like, I have been consistently impressed with the
casting of Fallout, and I'm hopeful that that continues on

(01:25:27):
with season two. The trailer looks great. It comes out,
starts coming out on December seventeenth. It is a series,
so it'll be releasing an episode a week until the
finale on February fourth, So December seventeenth is when it starts.
A lot of good TV, a lot of good streaming
TV coming out this year, Like.

Speaker 1 (01:25:47):
It's it's going to be a problem for me because
my group watch wants to watch both mighty nine and Fallout.
Mighty nine won't be done by the time Fallout comes out,
so we were starting to debate, like how are we
going to do that?

Speaker 2 (01:26:00):
Yeah, yeah, for me, it's like it's it's balancing stuff,
like Welcome to Dairy. I'm enjoying I'm enjoying it more
than I'm not. But it is the one series I
feel will be the first to go on the chopping
block if things turn even stupider than they already are. Yeah. Yeah,

(01:26:23):
So it's I already said like, there's a major thing
that I think is stupid, and if it gets stupider,
I think I might pull the eject cord. Pluribus would
have to do a lot of dumb things for me
to bail on that, because I'm really impressed with it
so far. That's not to say that it's impossible. Don't

(01:26:44):
take me up on that, Vince. Just keep doing what
you're doing and tell a really cool story.

Speaker 1 (01:26:50):
I mean, if it starts to just be the same
thing every week in tread's water, but we're two episodes in,
so yeah, there's no reason to think that'll be the case.
I did feel that Better Call Saul was a little
slow towards the beginning. It wasn't that it was bad,
but it was like the hits weren't fast enough to
keep me going, Oh, I need to wash what's next? Yeah,

(01:27:11):
so it fell off my radar for a while. Pluribus
has not done that for me yet.

Speaker 2 (01:27:17):
So it is true that sometimes in any show, really
you can run into an episode where it feels like
they're treading water because they're obligated to do a set
number of episodes a season and they can't advance the
story too much or they'll run out of story. That
happens a lot. I think it happened.

Speaker 1 (01:27:37):
I feel like it used to happen more.

Speaker 2 (01:27:39):
Well, it used to be that a season of a
show was twenty two or twenty four episodes, so it
is way easier to run out like Buffy or Supernatural
or something like that. But now we're in like these
these it's almost more like English series, right, yeah, where
it's like six to ten episodes. Those I feel, if

(01:28:02):
you are careful, you can pace it out properly so
that it doesn't feel like you're treading water. I know
some people feel like Stranger Things has been doing that,
and you know, now we've got a season where every
episode is more than an hour long.

Speaker 1 (01:28:17):
Yeah, I well, we'll see. I've enjoyed Stranger Things up
to this point. I know I've said so I will
watch it. I'm not super excited about the final season,
but it will be nice to have that closure. I
kind of feel the other way with the shorter series,
and I know we need to wrap up for me, Yeah,
but I feel that I feel the opposite about the

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shorter series. I feel like sometimes when you only have
eight or ten episodes, you're rushing to put too much in,
and so the story might feel a little bit rushed
or like you're missing pieces of development or character growth.
I think I hope that media finds a nice balance somewhere,
because like, the six episode series are honestly a little
too short for me.

Speaker 2 (01:28:59):
I think it can be done. I mean, we've got
movies that only last an hour and a half where
you're like, I felt that they did everything they needed
to do to tell that story.

Speaker 1 (01:29:08):
That's true.

Speaker 2 (01:29:08):
So it's just it's really it's just finding the right
approach for the amount of time that you've negotiated, right,
And there's so many factors. I can't even imagine what
that must be like to go in and negotiate how
many episodes are going to make up a season, Like
how how long do you think it will take you

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to tell the story you want to tell? And you know,
I can imagine there being cases where the studio's eager
for it to take up more time, and then you're like, well, crap,
I had a story in mind that was eight episodes long,
but they want twelve episodes, so I have to invent
four episodes now, like that kind of thing.

Speaker 1 (01:29:48):
I'm sure that happened more seasons Supernatural.

Speaker 2 (01:29:50):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, sou but yeah, we're it's a good
problem to have an embarrassment of riches, you know, where
I'm always pleased when I can look out there and
see stuff I find genuinely interesting that I want to
check out. And I still have a very long list
of movies that I need to watch, including recent ones,

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so I'm hoping that I get around to that soon too.
Friend of the show shay Lee told me she saw
Shelby Oaks, which was one of the movies that I
was kind of hoping to see, and she liked it.
Shelby Oaks is like a missing sister movie. The adult sister,
like her, her sister was an adult when she went missing.

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The adult sister comes finds a videotape that has her
missing sister on it years after she's gone missing, and
it opens up the whole like attempt to find out
what has happened thing, And it's a sort of a
horror mystery. I've heard somewhat mediocre things from that, but
she enjoyed it well enough, and that's one that I

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still need to check out. Like, I don't know, I
don't know if I like it or not, but I'm
still curious about it.

Speaker 1 (01:31:05):
Yeah. I Last weekend, we were debating seeing either Predator,
bad Lands, good Fortune, or roof Man. The latter two
were ones that interested me, but I wasn't like I
have to see them at a theater. Yeah, well, I
can't really see Good Fortune or Roofman at a theater.
There are very few showings of it. You can still technically,
but I'd have to go a little further out at
times that I'm not available. We didn't see Predator bad

(01:31:27):
Lands just because we would both kind of feeling like homebodies.
But it's still got really good reviews. My husband's more
excited for Running Man, though the reviews are the critical
reviews are not great.

Speaker 2 (01:31:38):
That's a shame. I was really hoping that this would
be kind of a return to form from Edgar Wright.

Speaker 1 (01:31:43):
So I think it is like reading the reviews because
it's sixty three percent fresh critical on Rotten Tomatoes. I think,
you know, you have the story purists who like the
changes right or or like Edgar Wright has a more

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fun tone than I would say the novel the Running
Man has.

Speaker 2 (01:32:08):
Absolutely and then you, I guess you would also have
the people who are fans of the Arnold Schwarzenegger movie,
which was not at all faithful to the novel, but
they are fans of that, and so anything that's not
that they're going to be upset with too.

Speaker 1 (01:32:21):
Yeah, so I've been. But I know a lot of times,
like a critical rating and an audience writing can very
differ drastically. Yeah, so I just keep kind of spamming
to see when the audience reviews come in.

Speaker 2 (01:32:32):
I often find myself more toward the critics side than
the general audience side. I don't know what that says
about me, but it does make me a little concerned.
I mean, I also, I think I've been on record
multiple times that I find Glenn Powell to be very
boring as an actor.

Speaker 1 (01:32:52):
Yeah, but there's so many other good actors in it.

Speaker 2 (01:32:54):
I say, he's the protagonist, like, he's the person you're
hanging in the movie.

Speaker 1 (01:32:58):
On look, maybe this will be like Edge of Tomorrow
where you're like, oh man, this is the thing I
really like him. And I say that because that's the
thing that I really like Tom Cruise and was Edge
of Tomorrow thought he did a phenomenal job in that. No, No,
Tim Curry and Legend though.

Speaker 2 (01:33:15):
Yeah, Legend is a horror movie.

Speaker 1 (01:33:18):
Yeah yeah, so much loincloth, so much loincloth. No, But like,
and it's not to say that Tom Cruise has done
bad performances. He does decent performances, but I've never been like, oh,
I'm a Tom outside of anything personal, right or or social,
just based on his performance. I've never been like, I'm
a huge fan of Tom Cruise. Yeah, but I loved

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Edge of Tomorrow. It was a fantastic performance. It was
also a wonderful.

Speaker 2 (01:33:45):
Movie Tropic Thunder.

Speaker 1 (01:33:48):
That was also good. That's the other standout for me
for him, So maybe this will be Glenn Powell's standout.

Speaker 2 (01:33:52):
It's just that maybe. But Tropic Thunder was just like
such a wild curveball, like it was so different from
anything else Tom Cruise has ever done.

Speaker 1 (01:34:02):
And I don't know if it would hold up. I
haven't watched it recently.

Speaker 2 (01:34:06):
It would be it is insanely offensive, but it's doing
it in a way that it knows what it's doing.
So so your mileage may vary. Tom Cruise plays a
very offensive character and I loved his performance. Yeah, it's
my favorite part of that movie honestly. And yeah, I

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don't know, but Glenn Powell looks like he's doing standard
action hero stuff and that's very generic, and to me,
he comes across as a very generic actor. So it
doesn't look like he's bringing anything interesting to the role
from the trailer. I have not watched the movie, so I.

Speaker 1 (01:34:46):
Mean I could say that the lead of Baby Driver
felt pretty generic to me, and yet I really enjoyed
that movie.

Speaker 2 (01:34:52):
That's true, you are. I mean, I like Baby Driver
despite the antagonist, well not the antagonist, despite a supporting
character played by a first character and the lead character
who was just boring. The lead I was just boring.
The supporting character was played by a terrible.

Speaker 1 (01:35:13):
Person, yes, yes, but there were so many wonderful performers
in it. I own Baby Driver. I bought it before
we knew about this terrible person being terrible, but also,
like I want to support the other actors in that movie,
so I still own it and I.

Speaker 2 (01:35:28):
Still like it. You also like to look at my
house in the background of that one shot.

Speaker 1 (01:35:32):
That is true.

Speaker 2 (01:35:33):
That is true, just positive that moment, and like as
Jonathan walking timbleed in this frame, I am not.

Speaker 1 (01:35:39):
I mean for sure, for sure, I do that, and
everything I know is filmed in Atlanta because half of
it's filmed by your house.

Speaker 2 (01:35:45):
It used to be. It's changed now, but that is
true once upon a time.

Speaker 1 (01:35:49):
Yeah, now, I mean now, there's a big studio like
fifteen minutes from my house, which is pretty awesome. I
look forward to the day where I get.

Speaker 2 (01:35:56):
A job there. Well, we should probably wrap this up
and consider we've gone long, and I know you have obligations,
as do I. I will go ahead and tell you,
Ariel that it is impossible to get in touch with
me and ask me any questions this week. Don't even
try it. There's no way to do it. But fortunately
there are other ways you can reach out to us.

Speaker 1 (01:36:14):
Yeah, well, I will miss talking to you, Jonathan, so
everybody else should write into us. You can do so
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on Facebook threads I almost said Twitter. We're not on
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And until next time, I am Ariel, Nope, got nothing caston.

Speaker 2 (01:36:56):
And I am Jonathan Edgar wrong Strickland, that was so good.
I had time. You paused for like twenty seven minutes.

Speaker 1 (01:37:06):
I mean.

Speaker 2 (01:37:08):
The large Nerdron Collider was created by Ariel Caston and produced, edited, published, deleted, undeleted,
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