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Speaker 1 (00:10):
Hey, everybody, Welcome to the Large nerd On Collider podcast,
the podcast that's all about the geeky things happening in
the world around us and how very excited we are
about them. I'm Ariel Caston, and with me, as always
is the ever awesome Jonathan.

Speaker 2 (00:24):
Strickland stand and deliver.

Speaker 1 (00:28):
I don't have any packages for you, Jonathan.

Speaker 2 (00:30):
Okay, that's fair. Hi, everybody, welcome. We've got a lot
of stuff to talk about today, although I think slightly
lighter than last week. Of course, we were coming back
from a hiatus last week.

Speaker 1 (00:44):
Yeah, yeah, this might actually be like a normal sized episode.

Speaker 2 (00:48):
Let's not make any promises, but we'll try. So. First off,
we're going to talk about stuff what we have seen
and done since the last recording, and believe it or not,
for one c I ve seen more than one thing.
I did catch up on Dick Turpin, the completely made
up Adventures of Dick Turpin to give its full title

(01:09):
on Apple TV Plus. So what was fun is that
in a recent episode, Jessica Hines was a guest star.
She played Daisy in Spaced with Simon peg way Back
in the Day, and Mark Heap was also on Space
way Back in the day as Brian. So to me,
I was like, yay, it's like a spaced reunion here.

(01:31):
Too bad we don't have Simon Peg and Nick Frosten
here too, But that made me really excited. I did
not recognize her at all. I had no idea she
shows up. Well. First of all, she's playing a character
who's got a very dramatic wig and costume and contact
lenses and all this stuff that alter her appearance. But

(01:53):
she's also wearing an outfit where her bosoms are thrust
to heaven. And it was just like, I see it
and I'm like, I was like, I know, I know
this actress, but I don't know from where. And I
had to look it up and then I was like,
holy crap, that's Jessica Hines. She totally doesn't look like her.
She was fantastic, really fun, really fun performance. One of

(02:15):
my favorite episodes of Dick Turpin so far, which remains
a very silly show, doesn't have a whole lot of
substance to it. I wouldn't call it like, you know,
brilliant satire or anything like that, but it's fun. And
then I also watched damnsel that's the Dragon slayer type
story where Millie Bobby Brown plays a young woman who

(02:38):
is deceived into marrying a prince and then immediately dumped
into a dragon's layer. I was, let me put it
to you this way. I watched on one and a
half time speed. Wow. Yeah, I never do that ever,
but I did it for this movie because I was like,
I do want to see it through, but I don't

(03:00):
want to have to sit through the actual running time
of the film. I was overall unimpressed. I thought the
costuming was great. I thought Millie Bobby Brown was great,
her performance was great. It was the script that was
the problem. It wasn't anything else.

Speaker 1 (03:17):
That's what I've heard. I've heard that they've put it.
They put in like, and I know this is a
different problem from what you had, but they put in
kind of like a a dios x makin a thing
in there that then kind of gets ignored and you're
wondering why nobody used it earlier.

Speaker 2 (03:33):
Magic slugs, Yeah, talk about magic slugs. Yeah, magic slugs
are an issue. But no that that didn't even bother
me so much as like, it's so obvious where the
story is going from the beginning, and it doesn't take
a particularly creative way to get to where it's going,
so not only do you know where it's going, it

(03:54):
doesn't have any real delight or surprises along the way.
And then the resolution is done so quickly, which granted
I'm watching it at one and a half time speed,
so maybe that's part of the problem. But it happened
so quickly that it wasn't very satisfying for me. So
I like where. I like the movie's ambition, I like

(04:17):
the performances, I loved the costuming and all of that,
but it still fell flat as a story did to me,
kind of like the way a lot of Marvel more
recent Marvel films have sort of fallen short of where
I would like them to be, Like I can recognize
the craftsmanship, and I can really respect that, but it's

(04:41):
still not the overall package is less than the sum
of its parts. And then the other thing I watched
was Night Court. I watched the more recent episodes and
the reason why that's kind of germane to this discussion,
apart from the fact that I refuse to stop watching
despite despite it not being very good, like it still

(05:02):
feels like a very dated sitcom like laugh Track and
all but one is that there was a recent episode
with Brent Spiner reprising his role as Bob Wheeler, the
very unfortunate hay Seed character who you know, showed up
in the original run of Night Court like six times,

(05:23):
so that was kind of fun to see his character
come back. And then the most recent episode guest starred
Reese Darby as the Duke Gergs's boyfriend h and Dave
Foley as his valet, and and that was that was fun.

(05:43):
Still not great, but Reese Darby and Dave Foley both
fully commit.

Speaker 1 (05:49):
That's you know, you gotta fully commit, you gotta fully commit. Yeah. I,
on the other hand, watched very little anything since we
recorded last time. All weekend I had rehearsals and tabletop game,
and then Monday I was doing film stuff, and Tuesday
I was doing rehearsal, and Wednesday I went to go

(06:11):
see Beetlejuice, the touring show the musical, and tonight I've
got a gig and I've got rehearsals all weekend this
weekend too, So a little light on the geeky viewing
for me, But I have been trying to catch up
on Fantasy High junior year on dropout, which some of

(06:31):
the episodes I have to clutch my pearls. I'm gonna
not lie. And then so you think you can dance,
which is one of the things that I like geeking
out about. I've never been an amazing dancer, but I
love watching it. And this year they filmed at Pullman
Yards in Atlanta, so locally.

Speaker 2 (06:49):
Right across the street from me.

Speaker 1 (06:51):
Yeah, I'm kind of not to.

Speaker 2 (06:53):
Dos myself, but I mean, like I literally could look
out my window and see it.

Speaker 1 (06:58):
Well, going to have to go through some people, but
you know, I'm kind of keeping an eye out because
I think once they get to the actual competition, if
they're still filming in Atlanta at that point, they'll need
audience members. And while I don't do a lot of
extra work because of the logistics between being an extra
and a principal character or a speaking character, I would

(07:21):
one thousand percent be an extra in that audience to
watch some live dance. That would be really exciting to me.

Speaker 2 (07:29):
Yeah, and that's not going to be the last time
that we mentioned Beetle Juice either. As Ariel, you know,
I had gone to see the touring show. We will
be talking about Beetle Juice later, but don't worry, we
won't talk about it a third time, so this podcast
is safe.

Speaker 1 (07:43):
Yeah, we've said the name a whole bunch, which I
will say. I absolutely going to the Fox. I kind
of dressed. I didn't dress in costume, but I wore
like a green velvet jet dress with fishnets and a
lacey blero, so it was still kind of like appropriate.
There are a bunch of people just dressed up as
Beetle Juice, which I love. That happened on the Broadway

(08:03):
show too. Just people who are really into the property.
And I just said say m again.

Speaker 2 (08:10):
And in Atlanta, it's a city that's known for its
cause players, largely big thanks to dragon Con and some
other conventions that happened in the city. Like there are
a lot of places that have a lot of cosplayers,
Atlanta has like perhaps an overabundance of them.

Speaker 1 (08:27):
Yeah. Yeah, and I am bounding when I see six
later this year. But I had something that I thought
was appropriate for Bille Juice, So I just want to
head more. I really enjoyed the touring show. I thought
the cast was amazing. It's it's hard not to compare
the people you've seen in the performances between different times

(08:50):
you've watched the performance, because everybody brings their own thing,
right sure, and you want the show to grow and
evolve with whatever the actor and the role is bringing
to the table, because that way, it's more genuine and
it's funnier because it's theirs. They aren't just trying to
recreate somebody else's magic. So from that standpoint, it was
it was wonderful. I loved watching everybody. There were some

(09:12):
new jokes in it, which I loved, because of course,
everybody brings their own things to the table. I think
I heard an interview saying that Justin Colette, who is
who is Beetlejuice in the touring show, most of the
time he has understudies, but didn't ever really collaborate with
Alex Brightman on the role, so it is completely his own.
There of course beats that are written into the script

(09:32):
that he hits and staging and all that, but he
really did make it his own. It was delightful. I'm
really glad I saw it on Broadway, just because they
tried to keep the touring show as close to stage
like staged as close to the original as possible, but
they did have to change a lot of set pieces

(09:53):
and some of the some of the special effects. They
kept a lot of them, but some of them were gone,
and well then I wasn't sure why. So, like on
the Broadway version, Delia, who is the hippie girlfriend of
the dad Catherine O'Hara in the movie, wears like a
stripey dress to a dinner party, and then halfway through

(10:14):
the dinner party, her dress gets caught and it unravels
and she's in a mess dress and you see her
underwear and like the bottom of the dress and that's it.
And it's very funny. And that's not in the touring show.
And I'm like that one they could have done. I
wonder if the costume, just switching it between all the
people who play her would be difficult.

Speaker 2 (10:31):
Yeah, that's not like, that's not like the fact that
you know, oh, the stage doesn't have that particular trap
door gimmick worked into it, so you can't really do
that particular effect.

Speaker 1 (10:45):
Yeah, but the people were great. I was kind of
that annoying person who was like, I would be one
of the first people to cheer in places that I
knew it was good to cheer. Other audience members did too,
but I think a couple of times I started it,
and I know as an actor, when I'm trying to
do a funny show, it is a thousand times better
when you have a responsive audience. So I might have

(11:05):
annoyed the people around me, including my husband, but I
kind of don't care.

Speaker 2 (11:09):
Yeah, no, I mean as also an actor who well
not anymore, but back in the day when I was
an actor, to be on the stage and do a
comedy and they're not there's no response is soul crushing
and you're saying there, I think, especially if it's like
early on in the show and it's supposed to be

(11:30):
a big beat that gets a big laugh and nothing happens.
You're like, I still have an hour and a half
to go with this, Yeah, and it's not gonna get
easier and.

Speaker 1 (11:43):
Yeah, and beatles juice, especially such a fast paced, high
energy show. There are some mellow moments, but they're far
and few between. I will say, like, honestly, the biggest
issue I had was that where I was sitting in
the back of the orchestra section, underneath the the balcony section,

(12:06):
underneath the loge, it was quiet, So I don't know
if that's a common problem in The Fox, I haven't
really noticed it every time that I've been there. But
this time, like the act the actors, the performers, we
get to a really like powerful moment where they're belting
and the music is supposed to swell and it's supposed

(12:27):
to like move you, right, it's supposed to like if
like the vibration should move you, not painfully loud, but
like you should feel it. And it kind of felt
like easy listening radio because the volume was just down.
There was nothing that was like there was nothing that
rushed over me.

Speaker 2 (12:44):
Yeah, that sounds to me like that was a technical
issue because I've never experienced that necessarily in the Fox,
or at least nothing is standing out to me. But
it is a complicated space to work inside. So it
could very well be that whatever the touring companies set
up is wasn't playing nicely with the Fox. I will.

(13:06):
I do remember seeing the producers at the Fox and
the night I went, what's the sweetish character's name? You
can just say the first name, not the whole name.
Ula Ulla's number when you've got it flaunted. Her microphone
gave out, and so like halfway through the song, her

(13:28):
MIC's gone, and then at one point a hand from backstage,
like an upstage door. The door opens and a handsticks
out holding a hand microphone, and she grabs the hand
mike and does the rest of the song, which of
course doesn't work out great because she's got gestures during

(13:49):
the song, so there are moments where the microphone's not
pointed at her mouth, and like the volume just suddenly
drops to like thirty percent. I remember that distinctly because
I was like, how unfortunate that it happens during her
one big number, And but that was like, that was
something that obviously was a technical glitch in the moment.

(14:11):
So I'm not sure if this was something similar, or
you know, maybe it was just poorly adjusted for the
Fox set up. I don't know. But other than that
one standout moment that I remember, I don't have any
experiences that were similar to that, where and I'm kind
of hard of hearing. I'm getting more hard of hearing

(14:33):
as I get older, because I saw too many punk
rock shows when I was I was in college, and
and so I typically do notice those things. It's only
a matter of time before I'm going to have to
have those hearing assists setups so that I can really
enjoy shows without turning to my wife and saying, why
did he say?

Speaker 1 (14:55):
Yeah? Yeah, I you know, I do have tonight as
so that might a little bit of it. But I
haven't found it affecting my overall hearing much. I can
still hear minute things around the house, and he keeps
me up at night. I think I think it was
just a little quiet. Maybe it was a little quieter
for me, but I do think I do think that

(15:16):
that it didn't hurt the performances. The performances were still phenomenal.
It was just that it lost some of the the punch.

Speaker 2 (15:26):
To me, Yeah, but it.

Speaker 1 (15:28):
Was still very impressive. I still highly recommend the touring
show if you get the chance to see it. It's
so much fun. It's just it's just a delight. You're
gonna laugh, you're gonna groan, you're gonna cheer its, you're
gonna gasp at snakes, you're gonna go, oh my gosh,
that's really cool. I didn't expect them to do that.
So yeah, highly recommend. Now I've talked way too long

(15:51):
about the touring show.

Speaker 2 (15:52):
No, no, no, I think that's great, Like it's fantastic to
hear you talk about something that you're really excited about.
And one other thing that Ariel is very excited about
is the fact that she's got a musical gig tonight.
It will be be singing and playing and entertaining, which
means we got to get this show on the road
so that miss Ariel can get her Patuti ready for

(16:15):
her gig. Yes, so that means moving on to our
thirty seconds or less. And this week I'm gonna go first,
So here we go. You might remember last week that
Ariel and I were not swept off our feet by
the trailer for the reboot of The Crow, and it
sounds like Alex proyas the director of the original film adaptation,

(16:36):
shares our concerns. Moreover, Proya says that while he never
wants to dismiss the hard work that folks have clearly
put into this new movie, he viewsed the original film
as a work that was made in honor of Brandon Lee,
who tragically died during the filming. Quote it's his legacy.
That's how it should remain end quote. I don't disagree,

(17:01):
But then we've already had so many terrible sequels to
that movie too, but yeah.

Speaker 1 (17:06):
Yeah, true, Okay. On a slightly more original note, vaguely,
it's based off mythology, so it's still not like uber original.
Netflix is doing a mythological dark comedy television series called Chaos.
It stars Jeff Goldbloom as Zeus and kind of how
he's not always the best people person and then like

(17:27):
six people gang up I guess to kind of overthrow him.
There's not a lot of information on it. There's like
a fifty second teaser trailer from Netflix, but again, it
doesn't show a lot. I had to actually kind of
read up on the premise to get more information on it.
But it looks exciting.

Speaker 2 (17:45):
Yeah, and this shows how my memory works in my head.
I had to replaced Jeff Goldbloom with Nicholas Cage, So
when you said Jeff Goldbloom, I'm like, oh wait, that's right.
It's not Nicholas Cage for once, who is supposedly retiring
from acting. But anyway, that's an your point. Here we go.
You've got poo on your universe. At least that's what

(18:05):
Jagged Edge Productions is trying to do. The studio that
brought us Winnie the Pooh Blood and Honey and its
sequel plan to launch a connected universe of low budget,
public domain IP horror adaptations, including works like Price Yourself, Aerial, Pinocchio,
Sleeping Beauty, Alice in Wonderland, Peter Pan, and Banby. No

(18:26):
beloved classic character will go unsullied.

Speaker 1 (18:28):
It seems, yeah, I am not looking forward to it.
Something I'm also like not looking forward to, but only
because it's still kind of a rumor. Is that The
Sun reports that Aaron Taylor Johnson, who was kick Ass,
he was Quicksilver in Age of Ultron, he was Tanderine

(18:50):
in Bullet Train, has been offered the role of James Bond.
You know, we don't always talk about rumors, but the
Times magazine. Time Magazine is talking about this, so probably
has some weight to it. He hasn't accepted yet and theory,
so that's a thing.

Speaker 2 (19:09):
I love the thought of James Bond potentially talking like
Tangerine and bullet Train because because it's a very lower class,
kind of working class kind of accent that he used
for Bullet Train, so I can just imagine it like, yeah,
Voca Martini, isn't it? Shake it not stood mine? Like
I love the idea that that's how James Bond would talk,

(19:31):
and I would pay to see. I haven't seen like
most of the recent James Bond movies, but I would
make it a point to go see that one. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (19:39):
So, Bond producers, if you're listening, Jonathan's giving you that idea.

Speaker 2 (19:44):
Yeah, I mean, I'll buy a ticket. I know that
I'm just one person, but I haven't gone to any
of the more recent movies, so that's saying something. So
next up, would Bill Hayter do voiceover on a boat?
Would Bill Hayter do voiceover with a goat? The answer
it appears to be yes, as Hater has been tapped
to provide the voice of the cat in the Hat.

(20:04):
A new animated adaptation of the Doctor Seuss work is
in production and aims to release in March of twenty
twenty six. So we'll have a little while to wait
and see if it's a delightful project or if, like
fellow SNL along Mike Myers, Hayter's version should just be forgotten.

Speaker 1 (20:22):
For some reason, I'm more on board with Hater than
Mike Myers or Jim Carrey. I don't know why. I
don't know why. Same so dead Boy Detectives are a
couple of DC characters that showed up and do Patrol,
and then they were going to get their own spin off,
but with different actors, and then you know, everything blew
up with DC and changed hands and all that. But

(20:44):
apparently we are still getting Dead Boy Detectives on Netflix.
It's gonna just be their show, and we don't have
a release date yet.

Speaker 2 (20:57):
Yep. So that's why it's in thirty sive G's or less.
The Teen Titans, a group of superheroes who mostly got
their start being sidekicks to more established heroes, are going
to get their very own live action film adaptation, maybe
because we are talking about Warner Brothers Discovery here, so
it's possible they'll cast and film the whole thing and

(21:17):
then never release it. But Anna Noguera is writing the
screenplay as well as she's writing the screenplay for a
Supercirl film, and I am cautiously curious about how it
turns out. As long as David Zaslov says it can
actually go to theaters.

Speaker 1 (21:34):
Here's hopein if it can get the like the the
tune of Sorry I Know that's thirty seconds long, If
it can get the feel of light. Teen Titans or
teen Titans go and not necessarily Titans. I'm all for it. Lastly,
Marvel Zombies is a project that we know is coming out,
but now we know that it is not going to
be kid friendly. It is going to be raded mature

(21:57):
more so than if So yeah, just be aware. I
hope it's not as bleak as Walking Dead, that's all
I hope.

Speaker 2 (22:07):
Yeah. Having read at least some of the Marvel Zombies comics,
I can definitely say that if it's at all similar
to that source material, there's gonna be a lot of
upsetting stuff that happens in this series because it turns
out superheroes are not necessarily a immune to becoming zombified,

(22:30):
and it just takes one or two particular heroes to
turn into zombies for that stuff to spread like wildfire.
So yeah, prepare yourself for a pretty dark storyline.

Speaker 1 (22:42):
Yeah, and that is it for thirty seconds or less.

Speaker 2 (22:46):
As always, we nailed it. Okay, So moving on, let's
talk about some of the trailers. What came out since
the last week. We know every week, I think, okay, good,
we're caught up. Now we'll just have maybe two or
three trailers to talk about, and every week it seems
like there's a dozen, although sometimes we decide not to

(23:08):
cover one, either because the film doesn't fully fall into
the geek category, or it's like trailer number four for
a series we've already talked about.

Speaker 1 (23:18):
Yeah, but which means there's a couple we could technically
cut out from this if we need.

Speaker 2 (23:23):
Yeah, they are a couple we could cut out, but
probably won't. So first up is the trailer for a
Star Wars series that honestly I had forgotten was going
to happen. I mean, I remember when they announced it,
but I forgot that it was a thing, which is
The Acolyte. It's funny because Ariel found the trailer and
it was I think the day after I saw the poster,

(23:45):
like the teaser poster for the series, and I went, wow, yeah, okay,
this really is a thing that I just totally forgot about.
What did you think of the trailer for The Acolyte.

Speaker 1 (23:56):
Well, originally I was excited because they were like, it's
gonna be like a Rein Johnson film Noir, which it
doesn't quite feel like that anymore. I like it. I
realized that it's another prequel kind of, but it doesn't
have to do with the Skywalkers per se. I I'm

(24:16):
gonna be real honest here. It's got many Jacinto and
I really justin to I don't know how to pronounce
his last name from the good place, and I really
like him, and so I look forward to seeing him
in something else.

Speaker 2 (24:27):
Like that's fair, you know, looking forward to seeing an
actor you like in another project has always I think
a fair thing. But yeah, it takes place one hundred
years before the prequel films happen, and to me, that's boring.
And the reason why I think it's boring is because, Okay,

(24:48):
so The Acolyte is taking place during the toward the
end of the High Republic, where you've got, you know,
the Jedi Order, and you've got this character who appears
to be intent on destroying the Jedi Order as best
they are able. But we know from the prequels that

(25:10):
the Jedi Order is extremely robust, that in fact, at
that point in the prequels, the assumption is that the
Sith don't even exist anymore, and that you know, essentially
the Jedi are all that's really left of at least
force users, that maybe there's some dark Jedi out there
or Dark Force users out there, but that's it. So

(25:32):
it tells me that whatever this happens in the Acolyte,
the status quo is maintained, because you'd have to in
order for the prequels to make sense.

Speaker 1 (25:42):
Yeah. Yeah, So I got this in my mail and
I was like, ooh, I just got this in my email,
So I'm going to watch it. That's why we got
it right after the image was released. I hadn't forgotten
it was coming out. It was one of the things
I was actually more excited about because it felt different
from the description. I will say the second time watching
the trailer, I put it on one and a halftime speed,

(26:05):
and at that time it felt like maybe it was
going at a reasonable not slow pace. Maybe it's because
I'm in a rush today, it's.

Speaker 2 (26:13):
Just because The Acolyte is little known as a sequel
to Damsel.

Speaker 1 (26:18):
Oh my goodness, It's not the only thing I watched
on rush speed today, But I don't know. I am excited. Also,
it's got the lead actor from Squid Games, so I
look forward to seeing him.

Speaker 2 (26:31):
Do more stuff. I mean, I'll probably I mean I
say I'll probably watch it, but I still haven't watched
and or I still haven't watched the finals the latest
season of the Mandalorians. So like there's Star War, there's
Star Wars stuff. I never I never saw Obi Wan
now that I think about, like there's a growing list
of Star Wars properties that I just haven't watched.

Speaker 1 (26:53):
Yeah, I had never finished and or I know I
lose my geek cred for that. I watched like the
first three or four episodes and it just didn't rab me.
And then I haven't watched Ahsoka yet but I want
to and forgot Mandalorian. Mandalorian season three was just okay, so.

Speaker 2 (27:09):
That's what I heard. So uh yeah, Well the problem
I had with getting back into the Mandalorian was that
episode of the Book of Boba Fet where you just
you're like, oh, I thought the Mandalorian reuniting with Grogu
was gonna be this whole big thing, like that was
going to be like a season long arc, but no,

(27:31):
you you resolved it in an episode of a show
that wasn't even your show.

Speaker 1 (27:38):
Yeah yeah, yep.

Speaker 3 (27:40):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (27:42):
I know, like one or two people who enjoyed Boba Fett,
Well they're wrong. Speaking of one and or two, Uh
we got a trailer for part two of Rebel Moon
the Scargiver.

Speaker 2 (28:01):
Yeah, so Rebel Moon is the science fiction series where
you know, is it Christopher Nolan? I think it's Nolan,
right who did it? It's he was originally going to
do a Star Wars film and that kind of fell through,
so he ended up doing Rebel Moon, which is just
I think'nder Oh, Snyder, you're right, Zack Snyder, not Nolan. Yes,

(28:22):
you're absolutely.

Speaker 1 (28:23):
Right, it was Nolan.

Speaker 2 (28:23):
It would be shorter, yeah, it would also be darker
and better. Snyder. Yeah, no, it's totly Snyder. I don't
know why my head went with Nolan in that case,
but thank you for the correction. Zack Snyder doing Rebel Moon.
He was supposed to do some Star Wars stuff, fell through,
ended up doing Rebel Moon, which is a very very
very very thinly veiled like path like almost a parody

(28:47):
of Star Wars. Not intentionally a parody, but it's so
clearly like a story that was meant to go in
the Star Wars universe and now has just been very
lightly scrubbed so that the Star Wars Wrecked references are removed.
But you watch this trailer and it's so apparent that
was like to the point where people have like laser

(29:08):
swords and they're fighting with each other that you're like, yeah,
this clearly was originally meant to be a Star Wars film.

Speaker 1 (29:15):
Yeah, And there's like a Midsommer droid and that's what
the droid looks like to me. It looks like it
came out of Midsummer. I will say, like watching the trailer,
this is the other one that I watched on like
one and a half time speed. At first, I was like, Okay,
maybe I'm interested in the second half, and then like
I got so disinterested so quickly that I kind of

(29:36):
zoned out briefly in the middle and to go back
and rewatch it.

Speaker 2 (29:40):
Yeah, it's a it's very It's also we've already made
this comparison, but it's very clearly a retelling of Seven
Samurai Magnificent Seven. It's that story like this just nails
it home even more about a group of former warriors,

(30:00):
most of whom have given up fighting for one reason
or another, reuniting and trying to teach a group of
humble farmer types how to defend themselves against an overwhelming threat.
It's the same story and this just this really drives

(30:20):
that home.

Speaker 1 (30:22):
Yeah, yeah, are we getting more? Is there more parts?
I know that the original cut is very, very, very long.

Speaker 2 (30:32):
I remember hearing that there was supposed to be like
a whole bunch of movies in this series. But I
could be mixing that up with Avatar, which also has
a whole bunch of movies that are supposed to come out.

Speaker 1 (30:45):
Yeah, I think I don't remember. I knew at one time.
I think it was something like there're going to be
two movies because Netflix said it's too long for one movie,
our viewership won't finish it. But then there's actually more
that he wants to put in there, So we're also
going to get a director's cut that's gonna be like
very long.

Speaker 2 (31:04):
Oh good, a Snyder cut. Never heard about that before.

Speaker 1 (31:07):
You know, it's whatever.

Speaker 2 (31:11):
Actually, I hear that the Snyder cut of Justice League
is in every single way better the theatrical cut.

Speaker 1 (31:18):
I disagree. I think both the theatrical and this, I
mean we've talked about this before. Both the theatrical and
the Snyder version are incomplete. Because the Snyder version didn't
do any of the things that I loved in the
theatrical version, it left those out, so it didn't keep
the good parts, and it was way too much. Snyder

(31:43):
likes to make pretty things, and he makes pretty things,
but it makes his stories really long. And I could
move with a little I like a noir pace and
I like artie stuff, but I could use with a
little less chaff. I guess got it.

Speaker 2 (32:00):
Well, I don't know how much chaff is in our
next thing. But we watched also a trailer for a
science fiction film that's going to be on Netflix called Atlas,
and I just remember mechs and the feeling of a
character being abandoned on a planet and feeling helpless, And

(32:24):
it made me think of a few different properties as
I watched it. It made me think a little bit
of gravity, like this character who is trying to survive
in a circumstance that is incredibly dangerous. It also made
me think a little bit of Oh my gosh, Matt
Damon did a film adaptation of it, The Martian, Thank you. Yes,

(32:48):
it made me think of The Martian as well. I'm
batting a thousand when it comes to a membring one on, Mars. Well,
you gotta remember Ariel I had a medical issue that
happened in January that literally killed half my brain.

Speaker 1 (33:03):
So, oh, did it really? I'm sorry, Well not.

Speaker 2 (33:05):
I've literally killed half my brain, but it definitely back now.
It definitely impacted my ability to remember things.

Speaker 1 (33:12):
Unfortunately, I taught daycare for ten years. When I came
out of that situation, I felt very dumb because all
of the big adult things that I learned I hadn't
used for ten years. So I understand got it.

Speaker 2 (33:26):
So, yeah, what did you think of Atlas? I I
mostly came away from it thinking that it looked okay,
but there was nothing that convinced me I needed to
watch it.

Speaker 1 (33:38):
It looked okay, Jennifer Lopez looked like she did a
good acting job in it. It was weird because on
the one hand, they're like, this woman who hates Ai
might have to rely on it. But on the other hand,
the villain is Ai, and so I'm really confused about
the log line. And this is the first I've heard
of Atlas. This one kind of snuck past my radar.
So I might watch it if I have an afternoon.

(34:04):
I'm keeping a very long list of things that I
need to watch, including like I still haven't watched living
with myself with Paul Rudd.

Speaker 2 (34:10):
So yeah, yeah, I mean it doesn't look bad. I'll
say that it doesn't look like it's bad. I think
the problem is that because it looks like these other things,
or are just like the trailer made me think of
these other things. It's that feeling of I don't get

(34:30):
the sense that the story is going to tell me
anything new, and therefore all I'll be doing is comparing
it against the other material that I see as being similar.

Speaker 1 (34:42):
I agree, I agree, speaking of new material being similar
to old material. We got another trailer for Furiosa.

Speaker 2 (34:51):
Yeah, the prequel to Mad Max Fury Road, and I
don't know. The trailer looks good to me, Like it
looks looks like a really like high octane, no pun
intended action film. Anya Taylor Joy looks like she's nailing
it as Furiosa. Chris Hemsworth looks like he's having a

(35:14):
heck of a time playing a character who at one
point is riding in a chariot drawn by motorcycles. Like
it looks it looks so stylized in that Mad Max universe,
and I'm totally okay that it's a Mad Max movie
that does not have Mad Max in it.

Speaker 1 (35:35):
Yeah, same, I wish I had Nicholas Holt as nuts
in it. But uh so, I like looking at a
picture of Charlie's Sarn, I can see how Anya Taylor
Joy could be a younger version of her, But when
I watch her on screen, I don't think she looks
like Charlie's Sarn. So that's something that I'm having to
get past. I also think it looks like a very

(35:55):
high octane, fun, energetic movie. It looks like they're putting
more plot into it then I'm used to a Mad
Max movie having. But Anya Taylor Joy is a great
actress and I think she'll do great. The thing that
got me in this trailer is they show some more
of her as a child, and I looked up the
child actor and she doesn't really look like Anya Taylor Joy,

(36:16):
but the child in the movie does. So they've even
either done some like uh I don't want to say,
they've either done some cgi or some makeup stuff to
make her look just like current Ania Taylor Joy was
much younger, which is a thing they do when they
d age people. They don't make them look how they
actually did younger. They make them look like they do

(36:37):
now but younger, so interesting.

Speaker 2 (36:40):
Now but smaller.

Speaker 3 (36:43):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (36:43):
I have been looking forward to this ever since I
saw Mad Max Fury Road and then heard that there
was going to be a Furiosa film, because I really
enjoyed Mad Max Fury Road. Arguably, Max is not a
super important character because as he's so he typically is
so reserved and quiet and very He's a very reluctant

(37:08):
hero that it didn't bother me that we were going
to branch out in the Mad Max universe and tell
a story that doesn't have him in it. And Yeah,
I just think that the design, the aesthetic, it continues
to have this sort of diesel punk thing going on
that I'm really digging. So I'm hopeful that this ends

(37:30):
up being as gripping of an experience to watch in
the theater as Fury Road was. Same, Yeah, because I
mean that movie. Really, certain movies I think kind of
send a message that I wish Hollywood would pay attention
to more. Fury Road is one of those. Another one

(37:51):
is the recent Godzilla film, where you can see studios
that are creating phenomenal, engaging stories without having to you know,
go bonkers with CGI and visual effects and all that
kind of stuff and it's still a really effective experience

(38:12):
to see in the theaters.

Speaker 1 (38:14):
Yeah yeah, speaking of speaking of that, we're getting a
brand new, highly anticipated, all original biopic about peoples in
the Star Trek universe. We just got a trailer for
Alien Romulan, a wonderful biopic.

Speaker 2 (38:35):
No, sorry, I hate to interrupt you here, Ariel, think
you misread the thing that you typed in into our
not to not to not to blow the cover on
your joke. No, we've got a trailer for Alien Romulus.
It's another entry into the Alien as in Xenomorph series.

(38:59):
The thing I'll say about this, it's not really I
wouldn't say it's a trailer. It's really more of a teaser.
And what I would say about this teaser is that
to me, it looks like this more than almost any
other film after the original makes it look like they're
going hardcore back into the horror elements of the franchise.

Speaker 1 (39:20):
The last Alien movie it wasn't Prometheus. It was the
Alien Covenant. I don't what. No, Prometheus was like a prequel. Yeah,
but there was like an Alien movie that came out.
I tried to watch and I had to turn off
in the first like ten minutes in my horror. I
have a friend who loves horror stuff who is over

(39:42):
the house also was like Nope, this is too much,
and we turned it off. They probably could have gotten
through it. But yeah, this feels a lot more in
line with like the first movie to me.

Speaker 2 (39:53):
So yeah, yeah, which I'm totally on board with. Like
I feel like James Cameron when he directed Aliens, which,
by by the way, I still think of as just
as good as the first film. It's just very different
from the first film. But with Aliens things started to
take more of a turn toward action rather than horror.
And then later Aliens films I felt almost explored other

(40:17):
sub genres while you know, you still maintain some of
the horror to it, but you had things like mystery
or drama thrown in and.

Speaker 1 (40:27):
A lot of body gore, a lot of body horror.

Speaker 2 (40:30):
Yeah, there'd be body horror whenever you were talking about
an attack with Alien. But it wasn't like the film
itself was all about ratcheting up tension and then having
big outbursts, right, It wasn't. It didn't have the qualities
that you would associate with horror as like a horror film.
It was just a film that had horror elements to it.

(40:51):
This one looks like it's a freaking horror movie, and
I'm all for it. I think it looks pretty good,
just as much horror as the next film that's in
our lineup.

Speaker 1 (41:03):
Yeah, Horror and the Purple Cran. No, Harold in the
Purple Cran. My reading comprehension apparently has gone out the window. Yeah,
Harold in the Purple Cran a property that Jonathan is
not familiar with. We talked about it the other day
on the show. And now we've got a trailer. So
there's this really big trend in the past few weeks

(41:26):
of here's your first look, here's or here's a poster,
now here's your trailer. And I'll put like, okay, we
get to see the poster, let's talk, let's hypothesize about it,
and then the trailer comes out, like we want is
I gonna throw that note out the window?

Speaker 2 (41:39):
Yeah, but why did you think of the trailer?

Speaker 1 (41:45):
It's okay. I I love the Harold in the Purple
Cran books. I think they're delightful. I love the idea
of drawing something into existence. I know Zachary Levi has
played young brains and adult bodies recently Am Shazam. But
and that's like, it's an okay choice, and he's I'm

(42:09):
sure he'll play being naive about the real world. Just fine.
I just it feels a little less genuine and fun
and exciting because it's not a kid doing it.

Speaker 2 (42:21):
To me, it feels it's weird because to me, it
feels maybe it's an attempt to appeal to multi generational audiences, right,
Maybe it's an attempt to appeal both to kids and
to the kids' parents by making it kind of almost
like a meta commentary, like there's some some like it's

(42:44):
kind of making fun of itself a little bit in
the trailer. But at the end of it, I thought,
this almost feels to me like it's trying to target
grown ups who read the books as children more than
it's targeting children. Drin. Yeah, And that was largely due
to the types of humor we saw on display in

(43:06):
the trailer. And it didn't appeal to me. I didn't.
I have no desire to see this movie. But then
I have no connection to the original source material either.
But even without that, I don't I don't look at
this and say, oh, this looks fun. It just I
don't know. To me, I look at this and I
see like a series of decisions made by committee in

(43:30):
an attempt to cash in on an existing ip, which
is very cynical, and I hope I'm wrong about it,
but I can't help but get that feeling.

Speaker 1 (43:40):
That's I mean, that's the way it feels to me too.
I want it to be better than that because I
like the books. But I guess we'll see or you
won't see.

Speaker 2 (43:51):
Uh yeah, I'll just hear about it.

Speaker 1 (43:54):
Yeah. Yeah. Next, we've got a second trailer for Fall
Guy came out, which I already thought looked like a
cool movie. It still does, but I'm really worried this
new trailer just gives us all of the plot.

Speaker 2 (44:07):
Yeah, because now with this trailer, it's revealed that the
the stuntman character that that is that is the fall
Guy that he ends up being tapped to look into
the disappearance of the lead actor who is in this
big action film has just gone missing and then gets

(44:30):
pulled into running away from bad guys. I don't know
that there's too much given away. I think you had
to have at least something in a trailer to indicate
why are people out to get him? Like, because otherwise
you're just like, why is a stunt man like facing

(44:52):
death in the real world, you know, not even on
the movie set. Why are people trying to hurt him?
I think you had to have at least some indication
as to what was going on. It's still an incredibly
outlandish premise, the idea of this person who is not
in law enforcement at all being tapped to go and

(45:13):
check into a disappearance. But then this is based off
a television series in which a stuntman character did go
around and like fight with bad guys and stuff, So
you got to give it some leeway.

Speaker 1 (45:27):
Yeah, yeah, I think it looks fun in my brain,
my head canon. The movie that they're working on is
Rincede Repeat, and Ryan Gosling is the stuntman for Tom
Cruise and Emily Blunt is the actress and the director.
Just because one of the scenes kind of looks like
it explosions and sand and stuff.

Speaker 2 (45:49):
What was the other title of that movie? Because I
know I saw it, but.

Speaker 1 (45:52):
It wasn't called That Day After Tomorrow.

Speaker 2 (45:53):
That's it. That's the one I saw. Yeah, Yeah, I
don't know. It looks fun. Ryan Gosling's very charismatic guy,
so maybe maybe I'll check it out because it does
look like a kind of fun film, and and he
has great chemistry with Emily Blunt, so maybe that'll who.

(46:15):
I think Emily Blunt is just able to have great
chemistry with everybody.

Speaker 1 (46:19):
I agree.

Speaker 2 (46:20):
I think that's her. I think that's her superpower. So
so there's there are enough reasons to want to check
it out now. I don't know if I'll have enough
reasons to check out a new entry into the never
Ending Story saga.

Speaker 1 (46:40):
What I so for a very long time, I'm like,
I love the never Ending Story. They should never remake
it because they're gonna use CGI and it's gonna make
it dumb. But I'm a huge fan of the book.
I actually got the book for Christmas and I'm rereading
through it. The book is far superior to the movies.
Movie follows the book pretty well, the second movie kind

(47:04):
of follows the book, and the third movie shouldn't exist.
But never any story movies. But I'm i if they
go with practical effects, I think that an updated version
may not be the worst thing, especially if they are
more true to the source material. But I do think
it's really interesting. The studio that has picked it up, Yes,

(47:28):
the Seesaw studio, Right Films, Yes, because the things that
they have been done. They have done is stuff like
Lion and The King's Speech. Yeah, what you mean a
bunch of movies.

Speaker 2 (47:42):
You see the King's Speech and you're like, well, clearly
we're gonna get ourselves a luck dragon from the same studio.

Speaker 1 (47:47):
Yeah, apparently they do have like a teen suspense or
some kind of show that I've not watched because it's
a UK based show. But yeah, I'll I'm sure they
can do fantastical stuff. I'll be interested to see what
they come up with at the very morbidly curious.

Speaker 2 (48:09):
At the very least, as I understand it, it's going
to be a two hour film showing a horse slowly
sinking into quicksand.

Speaker 1 (48:16):
Jonathan, Yeah, Jonathan, what, There's so much more to the
movie than that.

Speaker 2 (48:20):
It's the scene that traumatized my generation.

Speaker 1 (48:24):
I mean it traumatizes every generation that watches it. But
then there's also like the giant turtle that sneezes on you, and.

Speaker 2 (48:31):
Well that they'll have to save that for one of
the sequels, because the first film is just going to
be a horse sinking into quicksand for two hours.

Speaker 1 (48:37):
Racing the racing snail. That's like a knockoff Doctor Doolittle character.

Speaker 2 (48:42):
And uh yeah, but horse sinking I think is really
money in the bank for episode one. So this is
where we loop around and we have our second not

(49:02):
really story because well you were telling a story about
seeing Beetlejuice the musical on tour. But we have a
teaser for the film sequel to the original Beetlejuice. It
is of course called Beetlejuice Beetlejuice, which makes you think
is there going to be a third film? So we
actually get Beetle Juice beetle Juice. You know, But why'd

(49:24):
you think of this teaser? Ah, there's not much to it.

Speaker 1 (49:31):
There's not much to it. I think aesthetically it looks good.

Speaker 2 (49:36):
It's weird that Lydia hasn't changed her esthetic at all
in like thirty forty years.

Speaker 1 (49:41):
But it makes why known a rider look like twenty
years younger to jump back into it. Ye, the Beetlejuice
bankup does not make Michael Keaton look twenty years younger.

Speaker 2 (49:51):
No, he looks. He looks like Beetlejuice has had some
miles of hard road behind him.

Speaker 1 (49:59):
Yeah. So everything leading up to his appearance in the trailer,
I thought it was fine. You know, it's it's setting
a scene when when he shows up, gives Beetle Juice
shows up and he says the juice is loose. I
can't tell if Michael Keaton is just not enthused or

(50:20):
if Beetle Juice is kind of being sheepish, like come back.

Speaker 2 (50:25):
I mean, we only get the one line from him, so.

Speaker 1 (50:30):
There's no energy to it.

Speaker 2 (50:31):
Well that's one line and one shot that may not
even be in the movie. I'll wait till we get
our full trailer to see more of him, because I
can't imagine Michael Keaton putting in a reserved performance for Yeah,
for that character, he's going to have like that frenzy
and energy, I'm sure of it. We get to see

(50:51):
a little bit of Jenna Ortega. We get to see
the three women of the household at what appears to
be a funeral. So I'm imagining Lydia's father has passed away.

Speaker 1 (51:05):
Yeah, which it's interesting because there are so Jeffrey Jones,
the gentleman who played the father got into a bunch
of trouble for doing a bunch of really bad stuff. Yes, yes,
so I'm certain that Timberton would not want to use
him in the movie even if it were an option.
I don't know anyhow, but if they kill the father,
killing somebody does not set them up to be out

(51:27):
of the movie necessarily in a Beetlejuice movie.

Speaker 2 (51:29):
So well, Also it makes you wonder what happened to
the Maitlands, right, because yeah, they be because the movie
also they go back to the house like it's the
house from the first Beetle Juice film. You see the
giant a model of the town that's in there too.
In fact, that's where Beetlejuice emerges. So where did the

(51:51):
Maitlands go because I thought there. I can't remember from
the first film how long their haunt was supposed to last,
because they do say like how long they're supposed to
be there before whatever else happens in the afterlife, which
we never we never learn what that is in the
first film. But I would have imagined that the Maitlands

(52:15):
would still supposed to be like haunting that house. So
I'm very curious to in my head when I was
thinking Beetlejuice sequel, I never imagined it was going to
take place in the same house. I thought it was
going to be a new location.

Speaker 1 (52:27):
Yeah, yeah, maybe with new people, kind of like the
Jamunji sequel.

Speaker 2 (52:30):
I want to say that there was once a rumor
about a sequel taking place in Hawaii, like it literally
was going to be taking I might be making that up,
but in my head, I remember there being talked early
on of a sequel that takes place in Hawaii, and
that it almost is a send up of those old
like like television sitcom specials of like the sixties and

(52:53):
seventies where characters would go to a place like Hawaii.

Speaker 1 (52:56):
I feel like I've heard that too, And maybe it's
a fever dream, or maybe we just both matched up
to articles together in our brain.

Speaker 2 (53:02):
It's entirely possible.

Speaker 1 (53:04):
Yeah, I do know, because I was reading because right
before the trailer, like the day before the trailer came out,
they dropped a first look of the movie which is
in the trailer, uh, and I was reading up on it.
And apparently neither Tim Burton or Michael Keaton were chomping
at the bit to make a second movie. They're like,
I guess we could do it if a good story
ever arises. So that gives me hope that this is

(53:26):
going to be something fun.

Speaker 2 (53:28):
Well, I sure hope so, because you know, I would
hate for them to feel like begrudgingly that they have
to make this movie. I think the only reason you
make a sequel to something that came out so long
ago is you need to be really passionate about it
and want to make that sequel. If it's just yeah,
you know, we got to look and see what ip

(53:50):
we can cash in on because it's too risky to
do something totally new, then I'm not as interested. But well,
we'll set this up. We haven't, you know, we'll wait
till we see another trailer for Beetlejuice before we make
any other you know, judgments one way or the other.
I'm cautiously really excited about this film because I love

(54:12):
the original so much. I love the people who are
in it, I love I hope Danny Elfman is doing
the music again.

Speaker 1 (54:19):
I hope we get a cameo by Alex Brightman.

Speaker 2 (54:22):
That would be fun. It is fun that they have
a nod to the song the Banana boat song in
the teaser, although I think that was not necessary, but
I still kind of liked it. But yeah, I'll wait
because we don't know yet what we're going to get.
I'm hopeful now something else where. I don't know what
I'm gonna get. We got another trailer for the action

(54:47):
film Monkey Man, which we talked about in an earlier
episode of LLENC And this is really a secondary trailer,
kind of a revenge story type thing. You know, character
ends up trying to take on a criminal, gets that character,
gets their butt handed to them, goes off and trains

(55:08):
for a long time to be able to challenge the
person again in the future. Becomes like an incredible like
cage fighter champion type dude. You know, classic tale as
old as time story where's a monkey mask while doing it?
I mean, like I said, like, it's a story that's
been told a lot of times, but no, this one
looks like this. This trailer made me want to see

(55:31):
the movie even more than I did the first time
I saw a trailer for it.

Speaker 1 (55:35):
Yeah, this trailer gives us a little bit more of
like possibly some of the cool visual aesthetic they've given it,
as well as some of the backstory. You know, you
were joking that it's a tale as old as time,
but they did add Phil Collins, I can feel it
coming in the air, something in the air tonight.

Speaker 2 (55:52):
Yeah. Well, it's interesting because when I first heard the
title and I first heard it was an action film,
I thought it was going to be tapping into various
Asian cultures mythologies around supernatural figures who have like animal
aspects to them, right, because we've seen that sort of
thing before. But while he might be evoking that as

(56:16):
part of his persona in the film, it's clear that
this is not like some sort of super This isn't
like The Crow, This isn't like a supernatural vengeance film.
And I'm cool with that too. I think it's neat.
I'm looking forward to seeing it when it comes out. Which,
by the way, this is our last of the film

(56:38):
trailer discussion. We now have a couple of stories about
Vija games.

Speaker 1 (56:45):
It's been a while.

Speaker 2 (56:46):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (56:46):
The first is which we are getting a new version
of Riven. If you're a millennial or older, you might
have played the missed game or the sequel, which was
kind of like exploring a world. It was it was
like a precursor to Sandbox games kind of, because you

(57:07):
explore a world and you figure out mysteries and puzzles,
and it was incredibly difficult and frustrating, and I played it.
I never beat either game. I just enjoyed pressing buttons
and wandering around the world and exploring.

Speaker 2 (57:20):
I beat Missed, but I never I don't think I
owned Riven, but I did beat miss eventually. I think
I had to have used a gamer guide or something
at some point, because, like you, I ran into two
puzzles that I would just bang my head against them
and not figure out, like not even figure out what

(57:42):
the puzzle was asking me to do, because that was
the nature of these games, is that you would encounter
puzzles where even the task you were supposed to do
was not clear. You had to figure it out through experimentation.
And then, oh, it's wanting me to play a song
by rearranging this off on this on this you know platform,

(58:03):
and then if I get the right notes in the
right order and they're the right length and everything, then
it'll open up another area. Like not not everything was
even remotely intuitive. So they did a re release of
Mist a few years ago, just a few years ago,
and there was promise that there was going to be

(58:24):
the same treatment given to Riven. That's what we're getting now,
and apparently this new re release will include new puzzles
as well.

Speaker 1 (58:35):
I'm excited I might be good enough to actually play
the game now. I mean, it's it's all about discovering
and experimentation and journey. So yeah, you're supposed to enjoy
the journey.

Speaker 2 (58:45):
Yeah, like it's it's it's from that era of like
the adventure style games, where it's like a click and
adventure game. Like I think of games. It's not the
same thing remotely, but I think of games like Monkey
Island and where again you're put into situations where you
have to solve some pretty hard puzzles, and again they're

(59:07):
not always intuitive. I mean, in the first Monkey Island game,
at one point you create a way to go down
a zipline by using a rubber chicken and a pulley,
and it's I would never have thought to put a
rubber chicken and a pully together to make a way
to go down a zip line, but that's how you
do it. So this is a style of game you

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don't see as much. You see it more in independent
games like smaller independent games have been playing with the
click adventures type stuff for a few years now, and
I love those games. It's not something you typically see
in your big publisher titles. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (59:46):
Yeah, so I'm excited for that. I'm also surprisingly excited
for the video game Marvel nineteen forty three Rise of Hydra.
It looks the cinematic trailer looks really pretty, and it's
Captain America and Black Panther. I don't know, it just
looks cool.

Speaker 2 (01:00:04):
The facial animation is phenomenal, like the acting that you
get captured on screen. I mean, every year, I think
that video game characters are getting closer and closer to
not looking exactly like people, but being able to emote
and to perform in a way that is convincingly human.

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So again, I don't think you would necessarily watch this
and go oh, this was full motion video and live
action actors playing this part. You're not going to feel that,
But when you see the performances that unveil on the screen,
you're like, wow, this is really expressive and impressive.

Speaker 1 (01:00:47):
Yeah, apparently the studio is using unreal edgine five and
Metahuman Animator to do it. I think they're succeeding so far.
We'll see if the actual game holds up. Because of
course there's always cinematic trailers are always prettier, right, Yeah, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:01:01):
It's not like it's necessarily this is what it's going
to look like moment to moment while you're playing the game.
In the game, it also looks like Captain America and
Black Panther, it's T'chala's grandfather in this game, that the
two of them come at odds with each other because
you know, they're both apparently working toward similar goals. You

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would imagine that Black Panther is working within the interests
for Wakanda, and of course Captain America is just you know,
anti Nazi, so you figure they're probably working toward a
similar goal, but they don't necessarily recognize that, and so
they have conflicts with one another, which just kind of
goes back to the classic stuff we saw with like

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the Avengers movie, right where the first half of the
first Avengers movie is our heroes fighting each other. So
it's it's running in that long history. I don't know
if we're gonna end up seeing the Red Skull in
this or not. There was at least one reference where

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they talked about three like Super Soldiers, which if they're
talking about that, and Black Panther is one and Captain
America is another. I imagine the Red Skull would be
the third, but I don't know for sure.

Speaker 1 (01:02:19):
Yeah, unless it's Bucky.

Speaker 2 (01:02:20):
But yeah, yeah, as far as I can tell, Bucky's
not directly you know, mentioned in this particular trailer.

Speaker 1 (01:02:29):
Yeah. Anyhow, I haven't been excited for a Marvel game
in a while, so I'm very tentatively excited about this.

Speaker 2 (01:02:37):
Yeah, this one, I would say, like The Spider Man
two was probably a title that I was interested in.
I just don't have a PS five, so I haven't
played it, but it's definitely got me more interested than
like the more recent Avengers game, than a lot of
other titles that have come out over the last few years.

(01:02:59):
So yeah, I'm I'm eager to learn more about this
and perhaps save up to be able to buy a
rig that'll be able to play it.

Speaker 1 (01:03:09):
Yeah. Same, I don't have a Yeah, Yeah, we're gonna
we're gonna get a PS five because my husband wants
to play the second final Fantasy seven.

Speaker 2 (01:03:19):
You might want to hold off because rumor has it
that Sony's going to release a PS five Pro in
time for the holiday season this year, which means it
will be a PlayStation five with even better processing power.

Speaker 1 (01:03:33):
Yeah, so the thing is well and then it'll be
hard to find. But Tony still has a bunch of
PS four games he needs to finish first, so you
will be holding off. We've got time, are are? We
also don't have the latest Xbox, which, of course.

Speaker 3 (01:03:50):
Do we do?

Speaker 1 (01:03:51):
We do that? Are the rumors true? I guess we'll
have to see. I know you're all very excited to
hear about my my console journey.

Speaker 2 (01:04:00):
I mean, like it's important for people who might also
be considering it. Microsoft is also, we know is developing
the next Xbox because it got leaked in some documents.
It's code named Brooklyn and supposedly is cylindrical in shape,
which should be interesting.

Speaker 1 (01:04:17):
Yeah, so like we're we have enough to play on
our current things. Heck, I'm playing Skyrim on my Xbox
three sixty in the living room, like really.

Speaker 2 (01:04:27):
Us, I'm playing like a dragon infinite wealth, and I
really wish it would stick to one tone, but I
preferably it should be the lighthearted, silly don because I
like that, but occasionally it just switches to super somber
serious tone and I'm like, this is exhausting. Please just
stick to one. I prefer it to be half as

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long and just be just just stick to a single
kind of tone to the whole game. But I'm really
enjoying it. I'm almost done, but I'm not finished with
it yet.

Speaker 1 (01:05:01):
I also have a metaquest too, which is connected to
a gaming laptop to play Beat Saber. But I know
that my husband has been having some fun downloading some
other stuff on there as well, but I haven't touched
it yet because it's his gaming computer and he's I
have to wait for him to show me how to
get on there, and he will. I just I haven't
had time. But I digress. We've reached the end of

(01:05:24):
our episode and I could talk to Jonathan for hours
and make you guys listen, but I do have to
get ready for playing D and D geeky music tonight,
So we're going to wrap up. Jonathan. Yeah, if people
want to reach us, how do they do?

Speaker 2 (01:05:41):
So what you gotta do is you got to go
out there and you've got to pick up a musical
instrument that people assume dates from say the late Renaissance era,
even though it's a much more modern instrument. And then
you're going to learn a bunch of songs that sound
like they could be like Renaissance songs, but really they're
like Irish folk songs that came out like in the

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early nineteen hundreds at the latest.

Speaker 3 (01:06:05):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:06:05):
And you're going to learn all of this and you're
going to commit it to memory. You're gonna get really good.
You're gonna find a whole bunch of other people who
are like minded but have picked different modern instruments, and
you're gonna form a band and you're gonna rehearse for
a long time. It's gonna take you a while to
kind of gel. Maybe you write a couple of original
tunes as well as all the ones that you cover.
Maybe occasionally you even throw in a cover of a

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modern song right in the middle of like a folk song,
so that you're really changing things up and throwing your
audience off balance. Then you're gonna end up auditioning to
land yourself a gig. You're gonna be hired. You're gonna
get there early. It's really important you get there early
as a performer and you're gonna set up and in
the process of actually doing sound check, which is not

(01:06:48):
going to go well, you're going to find out that
there's like this one speaker that's making a buzzing noise
no matter what you do, and you like change the
cables five times, but you're still getting the buzzing noise,
and you're going to be like, what the hell do
I have the dude to fix this thing? You're going
to hear, Hey, I could probably fix that for you.
It's going to be me, and you can either have
me fix it or you can ask me your question.

Speaker 1 (01:07:10):
Oh my god, you've just given me so much anxiety
about my sound check tonight. Sorry, No, it's totally fine.
It's totally fine, and you're totally right. A lot of
our music is not actually what we do. Actually play
a lot of like traditional folk music, we'll be doing
that pre show, but we also do a lot of

(01:07:31):
the like bardcore ren pop.

Speaker 2 (01:07:34):
Yeah. Yes, a lot of the stuff that you hear
at renaissance festivals, especially like the Irish music that you
hear at renaissance festivals. Turns out most of that typically
was written in the early nineteen hundreds and some of
it as early as the eighteen hundreds, but very little
of the renfestyle music you hear was written anywhere close
to the Renaissance, which is fine, there's nothing wrong with that.

(01:07:57):
It creates a sense of a different time and place,
and no one alive today was around back then, so
it might as well have been from that period.

Speaker 1 (01:08:08):
So there are like Madriic goals and things that you
can sing. The thing is like, and I ran into
this too in my Weird West game, Like, well, in
the Weird West, a lot of music from that time
was actually pretty racist and we didn't want to sing it.
But medieval styling, like vocal music, not a lot of
people actually enjoy listening to that.

Speaker 2 (01:08:29):
So yeah, no, no, Like like you said, there's some
magicals and stuff that truly do date back to the Renaissance.
I remember we had a musician at the Georgia Renaissance
Festival for a couple of seasons who played genuine Renaissance pieces.
They were beautiful, but they were all in things like
Italian or Spanish, so you couldn't understand the words unless

(01:08:51):
you happen to be fluent in those languages. I am not,
and so for me, I was like this is very pretty.
I have no idea what it's about. It could be
something very deep, or it could be there's a rock
in my shoe and it's really ticking me off.

Speaker 1 (01:09:04):
Yeah, we're we're singing never ending story and we're mashing
up all along the watchtower into greensleeves. So you know, yeah,
you might say.

Speaker 2 (01:09:12):
That I took some inspiration from Ariel's real life in
order for me to give you those instructions. So, Ariel,
if they wanted to use an easier way to contact us,
what can they do?

Speaker 1 (01:09:22):
You can reach out to us on social media on Facebook, Instagram, threads,
and discord. We are Larger Nurdohn Collider. That discord invitation
is also on our website www dot Larger Nur John
claud dot com. I will get our show notes up
there eventually, though not until after this weekend because I
am busy all through the weekend as well doing artsy
acti type things. And if you want to reach us

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out with you. You really do make this all the fun.
And until next time, I have been Aeriel Bardi Bard Caston.

Speaker 2 (01:10:19):
I have been Jonathan Manatemann Strickland. See cow The large
Nerdron Collider was created by Aeriel Caston and produced, edited, published, deleted, undeleted,
published again. Curse That by Jonathan Strickland, music by Kevin McLeod.

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