LNC Serves up Beans and Cotton Candy

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Speaker 1 (00:09):
Hey, everybody. Welcome to the Large Neurdron Collider Podcast, the
podcast that's all about the geeky things happening in the
world around us and how very excited we are for them.
I'm Ariel Caston, and with me, as always, is the
incredible Jonathan Strickland.

Speaker 2 (00:22):
I'm full of beans today.

Speaker 1 (00:26):
Did you have did you see a movie with George Went?
Is that what happened?

Speaker 2 (00:30):
No? No, I did. However, I did have black beans
as part of my lunch today. But no, it's that
Ariel knows this already, is that I'm a high energy
on this recording because I'm flipping out. I'm about to
take a vacation, which in theory won't impact Large Nurdron

(00:51):
Collider if we are happy to record late next Friday,
but Saturday or Saturday.

Speaker 1 (00:57):
We'll see how Jonathan feels.

Speaker 2 (00:59):
Yeah, but you know, anyone who has a gig, like
a regular gig, and they're about to take vacation, you
all know how this goes. You have to get everything
lined up and buttoned down and everything before you actually
head out on vacation. And I'm I'm in the middle
of that process and we're recording at about two twenty

(01:22):
pm on Friday, so I'm running out of time to finish.

Speaker 1 (01:27):
Oh goodness, and I'm taking up more of your time
after this help with an audition. So if we run
long and you're like, Nope, can't do it totally okay.

Speaker 2 (01:33):
It'll be fine. Everyone who's covering for me is a pro,
and if I mess up by not including something that
they need to know about, they'll handle it and then
they'll just let me know all about it when I
come back. So, so Ariel, you know, we like to
start these things off by talking about what we've seen,

(01:56):
but I think I'm actually going to flip to the
very first story in our lineup just to really kind
of kind of cover something that is important to me,
which is that this week we lost the great film
director David Lynch. He passed away this week. And David Lynch,

(02:17):
if you're not familiar with his work, has done incredible
movies that often defy easy description. They're they're strange and
unsettling are two words that I think could easily be
applied to much of his body of work. But if
you were a fan of Twin Peaks, that's thanks to
David Lynch. I remember watching a racer heead and being

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horrified and captivated by his work, and incredibly prolific director.
A weird guy who was absolutely unafraid of speaking what
he saw as the truth in very blunt terms. Like
if you ever watch interviews with him or whatever, he

(03:04):
does not mince words. He is very clear about that
and sort of a beloved figure. I would say in Hollywood.
I think The Elephant Man might be my favorite film
that he did. Very moving film. Uh, The Elephant Man,
It's it's It's not an easy watch, but I do

(03:27):
recommend it. I saw it when I was a kid.

Speaker 1 (03:30):
Yeah, same same. I think The Elephant Man, some of
Twin Peaks and then his version of Dune are the
only David Lynch movies I have seen.

Speaker 2 (03:40):
Eraser Head I can't. I don't know that I could
recommend a racer Head, but I can certainly say a
horror kind of like It's I think it's I think
of it more like, think of it like a nightmare
that has been captured onto film, but not not a
nightmare where there's like a really identifiable antagonist or really

(04:04):
identififiable danger. Just kind of a sense of dread really, so.

Speaker 1 (04:09):
More is it closer to like Donnie Darko than let's say, Pinhead,
which is probably what I'm confusing it with.

Speaker 2 (04:14):
Oh yeah, yeah, I would say it's even more abstract
than Donnie Darko. Wow, Like it's hard. Yeah, it's it's
a very abstract movie. Like it's there are cuts, like
scene transitions in that where you're in a totally different
space with totally different stuff happening that has little to
no connection to what you've seen before. It's it's hard

(04:36):
to follow when you watch it the first time, and
it's hard to recommend watching it more than once. But
but I do really like that movie as well. There's
so much that he did, and and honestly, when I
look at his filmography, it's a lot shorter than it
was in my head. But it's it's that these are
movies that meant something to him. I think there was

(05:01):
at one point where he was rumored to have been
considered to direct one of the Star Wars movies, and
instead he did Dune, which I guess it all depends
on your point of view about whether or not Dune
is a triumph or a tragedy.

Speaker 1 (05:19):
I think he was A quick Google search says that
he was slated to or that Return of the Jedi
was originally intended for him.

Speaker 2 (05:27):
Yeah, and then if you watch in the interviews where
he talks about his reaction to being asked about it,
we can't play it on this show because it's a
family friendly show, but it's funny.

Speaker 1 (05:40):
Listen. I enjoy his dune though it's bonkers.

Speaker 2 (05:43):
But you want to know what one of my favorite
things he ever did was what so in twenty twenty,
when the world went into lockdown because of COVID for
reasons that I still don't understand, he decided to start
doing doing daily weather reports about the Los Angeles weather,

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and it would just be him at his desk saying, like,
good morning, it's such and such, like it's March sixteenth,
and it's Monday. Can you believe it? Weather right now
is cloudy and still the temperatures are at around sixty
two degrees fahrenheit with a height today of around seventy

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three degrees. All this fog should be burning off by
then and we'll have a beautiful day see it tomorrow.
Like that would be like, And then occasionally he would
just have weird stuff in the frame with him and
he would draw attention to it. But not explain it,
and it.

Speaker 1 (06:46):
Was the best creators need to create, and you know,
especially during the pandemic. I bet you anything that those,
if his estate will allow, will be sampled for some
other horror in the future.

Speaker 2 (07:00):
They're all on YouTube. You can watch every single weather
report he did. I think it was between like March
and November, so it wasn't even a full year, but
it was. I had to go back after I heard
of this passing and find out what the weather in
Los Angeles was like on my birthday. It was nice.

Speaker 1 (07:18):
That's nice. Hopefully the weather in Los Angeles will be
nice again soon. Yes, there have been some other people
who have entertained on, like some Broadway stars and stuff
who have passed this week as well. They sadly, I
just read about them right before we got on, so
I didn't get to add them to the lineup.

Speaker 2 (07:35):
But and the producer who was responsible for bringing Punky
Brewster to television, he passed away this week too.

Speaker 1 (07:43):
There was a Broadway actress who passed away too, and
I can't remember her name at the moment because my
brain is in twelve places. But I'm going to bring
my brain back to this podcast.

Speaker 2 (07:57):
Ah well, how about I help you out by asking
you what kind of stuff have you watched since the
last episode.

Speaker 1 (08:03):
I mean, it looks like a lot, but I've really
watched very little. It's been a busy week for me,
I guess first and foremost, I went and I saw
myself on the big screen. One of the production companies
that I did a short with was screening a bunch
of their works at the Strand this week, so I
went to go watch that and it wasn't of course,

(08:25):
you know, I picked apart my performance because that's what
I do. But it wasn't as terrible as I thought
it would be to watch myself on screen, so that's good.
And then other than that, I watched a whole bunch
more pop culture Jeopardy, which I can tell it is
a good LITMSS for what I'm getting tired because I
watch it at night before bed and when I stop

(08:45):
being able to answer things like there was a question
of like what are the names of the three alter
egos for the Marvels in the Marvels, So not like
Captain Marvel and Proton and Miss Marvel, but like what
are their street names? And I couldn't remember a single one,
and I could tell you them all right now, but
I was too tired, and I'm like, oh, it must

(09:06):
be time for bed. So that's been fun because then
like I'll but I won't. I'll be stubborn and I'll
watch another episode and I can't remember anything and it's
all like on the tip of my brain. I think
it's so frustrating. I watched one more episode of Chaos,
which I think is the way for me to do it,
because it's pologies. Greek mythology is a lot and it's

(09:28):
very dark, and so this is a lot. I watched
The New Very Important Person on Dropout and it's interesting
because they are getting more into the backstory of the
host in it, and that's fun.

Speaker 2 (09:45):
If you're not familiar with that show, Ariel, can you
give out like a brief kind of overview of what
that show is all about.

Speaker 1 (09:52):
Yes, So it's actually based off of a previous college
humor show that I can't remember the name of at
the moment because I never watched it when it was
on College Humor. But it is a show hosted by
Vic Mchaelis, and they play the host and they interviewed
different comedians who have been dressed up, So the comedians
get dressed up as a fantastical or bizarre character. They
don't get to see what they're being made up as

(10:13):
until they're completely made up, at which point they get
to look in a mirror. And then they have a
short amount of time to come up with their character,
and then they get interviewed by Michaelis and then they
will put in like little sketches and bits that I
have to be post produced because it's like, oh, you're
a pop singer, here's a clip from your song and
they didn't know because it's improv right, so they'll go

(10:35):
back and record it. But this season it's on the
second season of VIC. Mchaelis hosting it and being called
very important person at people and they like they had
a PA involved in one of the bits and there
wasn't a cutaway. And then also another person who was

(10:56):
set as a PA who is actually an actor at
college humor honestly, and they could be both a lot
of people run double duty at sorry not college humerior
dropout and write or produce and do sketches and bits
and appearances. So it's very interesting. That's a very long
description of it.

Speaker 2 (11:16):
Yeah, it's in some ways, I feel like it's a
little closer to some of the old college humor stuff,
although that was heavily scripted out, that wasn't improvised, but
it has that same kind of mad cap, absurdist energy
to it that you would see in old college humor videos.

(11:39):
I still miss the script and stuff from college humor.
I understand they've gone in a totally different direction, and
I think that the direction they're going in makes total sense.
But there are times where I'll go back and I'll
watch some of those old college humor things. I just
love that they would set up like a gag and
then occasionally revisit that gag, even like year years later,

(12:01):
And to me that that was always so rewarding, like
to be a fan of something and see references to it,
like it still worked even if you didn't understand the reference,
but understanding the reference made it better. It's harder to do,
obviously when your work is largely extemporaneous or improvised, but yeah,

(12:21):
I'm glad to hear so it's still entertaining.

Speaker 1 (12:24):
It is. I will say this not every episode. You know,
it's it's drop out. It's not necessarily kid friendly, so
you know, just be aware of that. Don't like, don't
let your kids run around on dropout on supervised. And
then I watched one episode, one more episode of and
Or I think it was I finished episode nine, or

(12:46):
I did episode ten, I can't remember and Or what. Yes,
that joke every time, and the Star Wars show that's
old that I never finished that I keep like once
every five months watching another part of an episode. So
that was that. It was a decent ending to an episode,
but I had to like go on wiki and look

(13:07):
up what had happened.

Speaker 2 (13:09):
Gotcha. Yeah, I've had shows like that too, where it's
either so dense or more likely I'm distracted. I'm not
paying full attention to what's going on. That's on me.
For me, I watched a movie called Hundreds of Beavers.

Speaker 1 (13:26):
I was wondering when you'd get to that.

Speaker 2 (13:28):
So hundreds of Beavers as a film came out quite
quite some time ago, now, I think it originally was
making the festival circuit, probably as early as like twenty
twenty two. But and I had heard about it for
a while, but I hadn't actually sat down to watch it,
and I didn't really know what to think about, Like
I didn't know what it was going to be, and

(13:49):
there's no way I would have predicted it. It's such
a weird, weird movie. So it's it's not a silent film,
but it's done much like a silent film. There's almost
no spoken words at all in this movie. It's done
in kind of a stylized black and white and it's

(14:13):
it's sort of an homage to the silent film comedies
of like the twenties and thirties, as well as a
healthy dose of classic, like classic classic Warner Brothers cartoon
kind of humor. And the basic premise is there's this
guy who had an apple jack business and that he

(14:40):
was making apple jack like hard apple cider, and some
beavers end up sabotaging his business and he becomes destitute
and meets a fur trader with a beautiful daughter, and
he wants to marry the beautiful daughter, but first hes
to go through all this process of becoming a fur

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trapper in order to get in good with her father
and everybody. All the animals are played by people in
animal mascot costumes, so like all the beavers are people
dressed up as like humans dressed up as beavers. The
horses are humans in a two person horse costume. Yeah,

(15:29):
it's it's bonkers. It is. It is like a live
action cartoon. Parts of it I found kind of tedious,
and parts of it made me laugh out loud because
of how just truly weird it was. So I recommend it.

(15:49):
I recommend checking out Hundreds of Beavers, particularly if you've
got like a group of people and you know you're
paying a decent amount of attention to what's going on,
because otherwise it's not like the plot is very complicated,
but a lot of the jokes are things that are
based upon repetition and then being subverting the expectation of

(16:12):
what happens the next time the circumstances pop up. So, yeah,
hundreds of Beavers. What a weird movie.

Speaker 1 (16:20):
I'm surprised that beat out What If Season two and three.

Speaker 2 (16:24):
Oh actually I did watch What If Season two or
most of it. I haven't finished it. I've watched a
little more than half of What If Season two because
I'm watching that with my partner Becca, and so I
have to wait until we're both available to watch something
to get episodes of that end. Whereas Hundreds of Beavers

(16:44):
I watched on my own because I don't think Becca
would have had the patience for it fair enough.

Speaker 1 (16:48):
I mean, to be fair, what if season two you
need to watch because there is an overarching storyline between
season one, two and three.

Speaker 2 (16:55):
Yeah, but it was.

Speaker 1 (16:57):
It was my least favorite of the seasons because.

Speaker 2 (16:59):
Captain Carr or I just got to the I'm at
the one now I think where Captain Carter is sent
back in time to like the Renaissance era, maybe the
early seventeen hundreds.

Speaker 1 (17:13):
That one was fun.

Speaker 2 (17:14):
That was. I haven't watched that one yet, but you know,
I did see the one with the Native American superhero,
which I thought was a pretty cool story. Yeah, so
I am looking forward to finishing it off so I
can move on to season three. It is interesting that
they decided to weave in a narrative. It's kind of
similar to the strategy for Marvel as a whole, right,

(17:37):
Like Marvel started off with these standalone films that gradually
became more and more intertwined until it was just one big,
you know, meta story.

Speaker 1 (17:50):
I mean, I do feel like most of Season three
can stand on its own, but it does have each
season kind of ends with the with the three line.

Speaker 2 (17:59):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (18:00):
Oh, well, I'm glad you're watching it again. Really, the
the I can't remember what tribe she is. The indigenous
hero is Kohori.

Speaker 2 (18:13):
Correct, Yes, I don't remember what the I don't know
what the tribe is. I don't know if they reference
the name of their tribe in the episode. They might have,
and I just didn't pick up on it.

Speaker 1 (18:24):
I think they don't. But she does speak as Kohori. Yeah,
she does speak a specific She's Mohawk.

Speaker 2 (18:31):
Okay, so she speaks she's speaking in the Mohawk language
as opposed to know one of the dozens of other
native languages here in the North America, you.

Speaker 1 (18:42):
Know which it's I saw this thing, and I fully
agree that. Like much like you want to be specific
about what Asian culture you're talking about, you want to
be specific about what Indigenous culture you're talking about, because
they're vastly different. But it's just a level of knowledge
and edgytion right now of still learning to figure out.

Speaker 2 (19:05):
Yeah. I mean, like, you know, we're both products of
an American education system that frequently would group all indigenous
peoples under the same umbrella and wouldn't like we would
be aware that there be different tribes. But we wouldn't
necessarily know anything more than that, Like we might know

(19:26):
where they were located, like you know the fact that
we're in Georgia. Now you'll hear about Cherokee, for example,
but we wouldn't necessarily know, all right, well, what was
their relationship with the other tribes of the region. None
of that was really taught to us in history, which
is a shame, because you know, we our ancestors absolutely

(19:50):
wipe the slate clean as much as they could with
their colonizing ways. So I think it is important. I
think it's also understandable for people of a certain age
to still be trying to catch up.

Speaker 1 (20:07):
Yeah, yeah, certainly. But you know that's why I looked
it up. I know that I am the queen of
googling while we record, and sometimes it's to the detriment
of Jonathan's editing. I thought it was important. I do
think it was one of the stronger episodes in one
of season two, that one and the one that you're
about to watch where Captain Carter goes to medieval times,
just because I like when they play with that.

Speaker 2 (20:27):
I liked the Christmas episode, but I had seen that
one before because we had skipped ahead and watched that
episode just by itself gotcha when it first came out,
but we went ahead rewatched it because I was like, well,
it's been a while.

Speaker 1 (20:42):
I think there might be a party boy thor episode two,
and I'm not sure if that's in season one or
season two.

Speaker 2 (20:48):
I think that's season one.

Speaker 1 (20:49):
Okay, yeah, but okay, Well, I'm glad you're watching it again,
mostly to get to season three because it's so bonkers,
but it's such a good way. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (21:02):
Cool, So I guess we can move on over to
our famous segment, to the thirty seconds or less couch.
So here we go. We're gonna walk on over to
our thirty seconds or less couch and take a seat.

Speaker 1 (21:16):
Means, if we ever put it on video, we're gonna
have to have a couch.

Speaker 2 (21:19):
What would be great is if we do split screen
video and we each go to what is obviously a
totally different couch and then have to have to line
it up as best we can and edit it'll one
of us will one of us will obviously be way
too big then the other one because the camera will
be a different does sense.

Speaker 1 (21:36):
Which which, by the way, there's a new Okay Go
music video Out that plays with that. It's all shot
on like sixty different phone screens. It's really cool.

Speaker 2 (21:46):
Oh, I'll have to check that out. I love their
music videos. Well for thirty seconds or less. I'm up first, right,
I don't have Okay, I have my stories, but not
the lineup. All right, here we go. The nominations for
the British Academy Film Awards aka BAFTA are out, but
Wicked is not among the nominees for Best Film. Still,

(22:09):
Cynthia Arrivo did score a nomination for Leading Actress and
Ariana Grande for Supporting Actress. But other Gigee nominations in
the Baptis include Inside Out two and The Wild Robot
for Best Animated Film, Hugh Grant for his performance in Heredic,
and Coralai Farge for the screenplay to the Substance, among others.

(22:30):
Oh Dune Part two got several nominations for technical awards
as well.

Speaker 1 (22:35):
Very interesting. I know you're not biging two awards, but
those are interesting. Severance, their red Carpet may have been canceled,
but they did Jonathan's favorite kind of promotion, which is
a pop up kind of viral thing where they built
a large glass cubicle in the center of Grand Central

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Station in New York, and the main actors of Severance,
the main work or Inny's I guess as they're called,
occupied that cubicle had worked for several hours of the day.
The article on USA Today does say that there were
other hours that because I think this exhibit was up
for two days, there are other hours that other people

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inhabited the cubicle that weren't the main actors, but Adam Scott,
Britt Lauer, Zach Cherry, and Tramille Tillman were all in
there at one point. Adam Scott's va vacuuming the carpet
with a little push broom. I guess, so push brooming
the carpet. And Ben Stiller, who I found out through
this is the executive producer, was there filming on his phone,

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as many people have equated it to like a proud dad.
The show season two comes out today, So Jonathan, I
guess you've got something new at the top of.

Speaker 2 (23:46):
Your watch list. Absolutely, what a wild promotion. I can't imagine.
I'm sure I'd be stressed out if I saw it,
simply because I'd be worried about somebody being purposefully disruptive
and I hate that for performances. But anyway, Okay, Well,
if like me, you were looking forward to the second

(24:06):
season of The completely made up Adventures of Dick Turpin,
I have some bad news. Apparently Noel Fielding has decided
not to continue doing the series after having already shot
about three quarters of season two. After the holidays, he
stopped coming to work. Fielding's agent has said, quote one
of the main cast members who has not been well

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is not recovered enough to complete the film name end
quote sad times.

Speaker 1 (24:33):
Yeah, I hope he's all right, and I hope if
it is indeed sickness, that they're able to pick it
back up. Things are weird right now, but I guess
UK is different than US TV and film. If you
watched the first seven minutes of Craven the Hunter and
wanted to see what the rest of the movie was like,
but did not want to go to the movie theater,

(24:56):
you're in luck because now you can watch Craven the
Hunter home. It only made fifty nine million global total,
which is much less than It's like half under. It
is almost just half of.

Speaker 2 (25:13):
What the budget was, and that's fall marketing.

Speaker 1 (25:17):
Yeah, yeah, because they spent like a report at one
hundred and twenty million, so like, so, but.

Speaker 2 (25:23):
Two dollars, you made two million dollars, not just two dollars.

Speaker 1 (25:26):
Oh yeah, two million dollars under half. My brain was
not adding the extra zeros. And like this weekend it
made three hundred and forty five thousand domestically, and that's
not much. But you can watch it at home if
you like twos.

Speaker 2 (25:41):
If you were looking forward to seeing Shrek five on
July first, twenty twenty six, I have some bad news. Okay,
not really bad. Universal Pictures has moved the film's debut
to December twenty third, twenty twenty six. Meanwhile, Millions three,
which was supposed to release on June thirtieth, twenty twenty seven,
has been moved all the way up to Shrek's old

(26:02):
release date of July first, twenty twenty six, so a
whole year earlier. This might have something to do with
family films being such a huge box office draw in
twenty twenty four.

Speaker 1 (26:12):
Speaking of family movies, it is well, it's a rumor,
it's reported. I don't know if it's actually true. I
haven't looked out since two days ago when I saw
this that Warner Brothers Discovery is making a new Goonies movie.
I don't know if it's going to be a reboot

(26:33):
or a sequel. I guess we'll have to wait. I
guess it's true that Goonies never say die.

Speaker 2 (26:42):
If you thought rumors of a new Goonies film was
all there was to that story, I have some bad news,
all right, So it's actually potentially really good news. So
the news is that the same talks about Goonies also
mentioned a possible Grimlins three film, And on top of that,
Christopher Columbus, the writer and director, not the Colonizer, is
said to be back as the writer for this one.

(27:04):
Old Columbo wrote the first Grimlins film way back in
nineteen eighties, and it sounds great. Just don't feed them
after midnight.

Speaker 1 (27:11):
I wonder if they're going to use puppets or CGI.
I hope it's puppets.

Speaker 2 (27:15):
Oh please, please let it be puppets.

Speaker 1 (27:18):
Speaking of sequels, Peacemaker two is in the works. We
knew that, but we have now learned that there will
be a brand new dance sequence at the opening credits
of it, also choreographed by Alan Tudik's wife, Carissa Martin.
She did the first one as well, so that's very exciting.

Speaker 2 (27:37):
Cool. Well, if you thought the Hunger Games stories were over,
I have some bad news or good news if you're
a fan. Author Suzanne Collins has a new Hunger Games
book that's coming out next year, and this one is
called Sunrise on the Reaping and will serve as a
prequel that tells the story of how hamich Abernathya with
the Harrelson's character in the films one his own megas

(28:00):
of the Hunger Games before the events of the main story.

Speaker 1 (28:06):
Next up, I don't have a QUIPI Transition six the
Musical Live will be airing in UK cinemas on April six.
Can't watch it here, but it will be featuring the
original queens of the musical. That's pretty exciting. I hope
that it eventually makes it over here as like a
Fathom event.

Speaker 2 (28:28):
That would be cool. Well, if you don't like customer
loyalty programs, I have some bad news. So AMC Theaters
has had a customer loyalty program called Stubs for Ages,
but this year there's a free tier that's an upgrade
from the previous free version. It's called AMC Stubs Premiere Go,
and it applies to anyone who accumulates at least five

(28:48):
thousand stubs points or sees at least eight movies in
the calendar year. Benefits include waived fees if you're buying
like four tickets or more at once, or you know,
a free popcorn and drink on your birthday. I'm not
sure that that's going to get me into the theaters more.
If I'm being totally honest.

Speaker 1 (29:06):
I am a member of a different movies free rewards program,
and it doesn't necessarily get me into the movies more
unless it's the month where you get like a free ticket,
you buy one, get one free, or a discount. But
it is nice to be like, oh, I get a
free popcorn. That's lovely. Scream seven is currently filming in Atlanta.

(29:27):
I saw extras casting notice the other day, but we
have news that Joel McHale is joining the cast as Sidney.
Prescott's husband Jonathan talked about I think last week that
Nev Campbell was coming back to the movie, but apparently
Patrick Dempsey, who played the detective in Scream three, is not.

Speaker 2 (29:47):
Yeah. In our notes, I titled this that Joel mckill
joins the Scream Community.

Speaker 1 (29:54):
It's very clever. Yeah, sorry, I didn't read that.

Speaker 2 (29:57):
Because he was in a show called Community.

Speaker 1 (30:00):
I've never heard of it.

Speaker 2 (30:01):
Yeah, it's uh, there's gonna be a movie. Don't worry.
Six seasons in a movie.

Speaker 1 (30:07):
I mean it's that works in theory.

Speaker 2 (30:09):
Yeah, who knows whenever that'll happen. Like, it's one of
those things that like we hear about and until they're
actually shooting film, I'm gonna consider it a rumor. So
let's talk about some of the stories we've got. We've
got a whole bunch of trailers that came out. This
was another one of those weeks where early in the

(30:29):
week I thought we weren't going to have much to
talk about, and.

Speaker 1 (30:32):
Then cash up and a discussion.

Speaker 2 (30:35):
And yeah, I was like, man, we're gonna be able
to fill this with a whole bunch of other stuff.
And then all the trailers came out. First up. These
are not particularly organized because I didn't go through. Sometimes
I'll go in and I'll change the order of trailers
and stuff so that there's kind of a flow. This time,
it's just sort of as we encountered them.

Speaker 1 (30:59):
Yeah, so we've got Castlevania Nocturn season two I did.
I'm gonna be real honest here. I added it because
I know Castlevania is a geeky thing and a lot
of people liked the original cartoon on Netflix, which was
far too crass for me. I didn't get past the
first episode. I'm not sure if Castlevania K Nocturn is
separate from the original Castlevania, but this season two looks

(31:21):
really interesting.

Speaker 2 (31:23):
Yeah, I watched it. I have to say, if you
watch this trailer on one and a half time speed,
it's real hard to pick up what's happening.

Speaker 1 (31:33):
Yeah, but I'm not going to give you crap because
I do it all the time.

Speaker 2 (31:38):
There was a big like the energy here is like
what if we combined Dracula with Lemezarabla. Although not really
lame is it's but it does involve like revolutionary France
as the backdrop for the story, So there's like all
this military stuff happening on top of it it being

(32:00):
a vampire story, which actually reminds me of some novels
by an author named Kim Newman, and he had created
some vampire novels that combined historical actual historical figures and
fictional characters who would have been alive at the same
time as those historical figures in his novels. This just

(32:25):
kind of gave me similar energy, even though there aren't
like it's not like, you know, fictional characters like Phantom
of the Opera are popping up, nothing like that, but
it just reminded me a little of that.

Speaker 1 (32:36):
Yeah, I might give it another try if I don't
have to go back and watch the previous season, because
this looks more like adventury actionly with a little bit
of gore, unless just Ronchi.

Speaker 2 (32:49):
Yeah, I never saw the Castolania series. I've played a
little bit of the old games, like the old Nintendo games,
but I've never watched the show. So this was I
think I probably saw the preview for the original Castlevania cartoon.
I think we I'm sure we chatted about it on
this show, but I haven't ever watched it. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (33:12):
Yeah, And then we've got kind of two stories, but
they're really just one, which is a trailer for the
Until Dawn movie, which is based off of a video
game Tooma than correct or book.

Speaker 2 (33:28):
So no, you were right the first time in that
it's supposedly based off the video game, but it's based
off a video game, the way the original Mario Brothers
movie was based off a video game, and that you're like,
I see tiny little bits of connective tissue, but this
feels like it is totally not connected to the supposed

(33:52):
source material. Yeah. So in the original video game of
Until Dawn, it's part of a series of games where
it's kind of like choose your own adventure and depending
on your choices, that determines the kind of ending you're
going to get, and.

Speaker 1 (34:08):
Like, is it usually death or something?

Speaker 2 (34:11):
Well, depending like best case scenario, you get as many
people who are capable of surviving survive worst case scenario
because of your choices, everybody dies, right, and usually it's
somewhere in the middle. Usually you you lose one or
two people because you made the wrong choice, which is
not always obvious. It's not always like I cheel, Like, so,

(34:35):
do you run into the field of daisies or do
you walk across the broken glass and all the the
rakes that are on the ground just ready to be
stepped on so that it comes up and slaps you in
the face, Like, oh, let's try the broken glass one.
Oh you die. It's nothing that obvious but the movie
looks like it looked to me like if I were

(34:57):
to give you the high elevator pitch version of the film,
I'm like, what if you took Cabin in the Woods
and Groundhog Day and put them together into a movie.

Speaker 1 (35:06):
Yeah? Yeah, I had a very similar feel. So these kids,
young adults, maybe adults, I don't know, it's hard to
tell in movies, get stuck in a house where every
time they die, they come back and something else is
hunting them to kill them, and they just have to
make it till dawn. And they learn in the trailer

(35:27):
that no one has made it past thirteen nights in
the house, So I guess past thirteen deaths, which is
a great number to end on for a horror movie.
It looks actually really interesting to me.

Speaker 2 (35:37):
Yeah, if it were not called Until Dawn, I think
I would actually want to see this movie, and I
kind of still do. But it just feels like it
really has no resemblance to the story of the original
Until Dawn, and that story it starts. It's kind of
like a prologue where they're these two twin sisters or

(36:05):
two twins who are part of this group and they're
all at this cabin. The sister's family owns the cabin,
and through a series of events, the sisters end up
being put in a precarious situation and then apparently they
both die at the beginning, and then the next year
or sometime further down the future, their brother invites everybody

(36:30):
back to the cabin, supposedly to honor his sisters and
to reconnect because they all lost touch after the tragedy.
And also, what's important to know is the reason why
the sisters were in the predicament they were in in
the first place is because the others in the house
played a really nasty prank on one of the two sisters,
and that's kind of what precipitated the events that lead

(36:52):
to their deaths. At the reunion, people start running into
very dangerous situations. There appears to be a killer on
the loose. There's some supernatural stuff going on, and you know,
obviously your choice is determined who lives and who dies
and who tells your story if we're doing Hamilton, But
uh uh, that's that's the story of the game, And

(37:16):
like none of that seems to have carried over into
this trailer, which is why, if you read the comments,
at the bottom of the trailer. A lot of people
are calling it out for not really being an Until
Dawn adaptation. Not that it looks bad, but it does
not look like Until Dawn.

Speaker 1 (37:33):
That's sad because it does look interesting, like it looks
too scary for me, but it also looks really cool.
Uh Like, it didn't It didn't give me like this
skivie I'm super creeped out vibes. It it gave me
like I want these these protagonists to win vibes. I
love that Peter stormare, isn't it He He's such an

(37:55):
interesting fun actor to watch.

Speaker 2 (37:57):
He was also in the game.

Speaker 1 (37:59):
Was he really?

Speaker 2 (38:00):
Yeah? He played one of the characters. He plays a
psychiatrist in the who Is. The psychiatrist's job in the
game is to kind of berate you for your choices,
So like, every so often, as the game unfolds, it
cuts to this psychiatry session and you're not fully sure
who you are because you're seeing it from first person,

(38:23):
so you don't really know who you're embodying. But the
psychiatrist is kind of like, so that's the way you
decided to go.

Speaker 1 (38:30):
Huh, Well, I think he's playing the same character because
the cast list has him listed as doctor Allan J.

Speaker 2 (38:36):
Hill, so that is the name of the psychiatrist, and so.

Speaker 1 (38:39):
There's at least one through line.

Speaker 2 (38:41):
Yayyay. So I go back and forth. Part of me
is like, I don't want him to tell the exact
same story because we already have that in the video game.
But the other part of me is like, why even
bother calling it an adaptation if there's not really any
connection to the source material.

Speaker 1 (39:02):
I call it Peach Dragon if it has nothing to
do with the original Peach Dragon story, which was already
an original story.

Speaker 2 (39:08):
We got a bill of sale right here with dear
Little PD's name.

Speaker 1 (39:17):
Well, well, we'll move on, okay to the next trailer,
which is Back in Action, which is I think in
Netflix movie Yes.

Speaker 2 (39:28):
Yes, with Cameron Diaz and Jamie Fox.

Speaker 1 (39:32):
Playing parents used to be unofficial CIA operatives essentially.

Speaker 2 (39:38):
Or secret operatives. Yeah. So it's like mister and missus Smith,
but now they've got a family and suddenly they get
pulled back into the spy life for reasons that we're
not They're not made clear in the trailer. It's not
really important for the trailer, and it has a much

(39:59):
more lighthearted tone to it, and uh, I thought it
looked cute. It looks like a really kind of funny,
fast paced, like tongue in cheek spy action movie.

Speaker 1 (40:12):
Yeah, it doesn't look as cheesy as let's say, Spy Kids,
and it doesn't look as serious as mister and Missus Smith. Yeah,
it rides a good line and the mom and dad
jokes they make kind of actually hit.

Speaker 2 (40:22):
Yeah. My favorite being when when someone calls Cameron Diaz's
character a boomer and then she beats him up and says,
at most we're gen X.

Speaker 1 (40:30):
Yes, yes, which they definitely are gen X if you
look at the actors, yes, agents as am I, which
is which is a proud place to be. I. You know, I,
if you had Elevator pitched me this movie, I'd be
like meh, but it looks it looks fun. I will
probably watch it.

Speaker 2 (40:49):
Yeah, I feel the same way. So, oh, you know
what other movie I forgot to put in the stuff
that I watched? I actually finally watched Fall Guy. Oh yeah,
which obviously has been out forever, but I I I
had talked, we had talked about it a few times
and talked about like how in the stunt community people
were saying it was great for them to call out

(41:10):
the importance of stunt performers and everything. I finally actually
watched it, and I really enjoyed it. In some ways,
the tone of this reminds me of Fall Guy in
that there's kind of a joyfulness to it that while
there is like all this action and the tone.

Speaker 1 (41:25):
The tone of Fall Guy reminds you of Fall Guy.

Speaker 2 (41:28):
Uh, tone of Fall Guy reminds me of Back in Action. Okay,
that's what I meant. So so that Fall Guy, like
Fall Guy and Back in Action both have kind of
a joyfulness to them, at least as far as we
can tell from the trailer for Back in Action. And uh,
it takes a lot to get me interested in action
movie these days because so many of them I feel

(41:49):
are similar. Like I feel like every Jason Stathan movie
is the same film. So, uh, this made me want
to watch it because of the tone.

Speaker 1 (42:00):
So yeah, yeah, I've been leaning more towards comedy lately.
And again I think it's just because there's there's been
a lot the past few years. We talked, I'd say
this like every week. I'm a broken record. I know.

Speaker 2 (42:11):
Yeah, there's enough stuff out there that is miserable that
it's nice to have some stuff that's kind of fun.
Speaking of fun, Pixar has its series Win or Lose
coming out soon on February nineteenth, and we got another
trailer for it. We talked about this when we first

(42:32):
got a teaser. It kind of feels a little inside
out ish to me.

Speaker 1 (42:37):
It feels like they took inside out and turned it
inside out, so now the things that are inside are
on the outside, so we get to see them interact
with the real world.

Speaker 2 (42:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (42:46):
I had the same feels about it.

Speaker 2 (42:50):
Yeah. Essentially, it's telling the story of a softball team
and their journey to playing a game, and from what
I understand, the will follow eight different characters whose lives
intersect due to the softball game, and what we're seeing
are kind of their internal feelings and thoughts being shown

(43:14):
to us in an external way. So it's the stuff like,
I don't think we're supposed to literally believe that there's
an anthropomorphized blob of sweat that is sentient and speaking
on this young lady's shoulder, but rather that that's what
represents her anxiety in a moment where she's expected to perform.

Speaker 1 (43:36):
I was interested in the trailer. It shows that these
emotional superpowers or yeah, superabilities as I would call them,
because they aren't necessarily powers, they're they in the trailer.
Sometimes detrimental don't just apply to the kids in the show.
So it's not like it's not like most of Turning Red,

(43:56):
where only this child really turned into this giant red panda.
It applies to the adults as well. We get to
see their struggles and how they deal with them as also.

Speaker 2 (44:07):
As also yeah, like like emotional armor being a literal
thing that shows up in one of the scenes. Did
you watch all of Turning Red?

Speaker 1 (44:17):
I did?

Speaker 2 (44:18):
I know? Eventually I know I was about to say,
I was about to say, it's not.

Speaker 1 (44:21):
Just the kids, so I said most of okay, most
for the like the first three quarters of the movie.

Speaker 2 (44:29):
Well, uh I thought Winner lowse look cute. Uh, I
mean it doesn't. It doesn't convince me that it's doing
something new, at least from Pixar's perspective. Like, it does
have a lot of inside out vibes for me, but
it looks like it's done well. So if you if

(44:49):
like it's hard for me. Because Pixar was such a
powerhouse early early on with its movies that it set
the bars so high that sometimes I feel like, oh,
you didn't hit the bar, but to be fair, that
bar is real high.

Speaker 1 (45:06):
Yeah, yeah, I'll be I'll be interested to see how
because they also have was it Dream Institute that's out
that is directly inside out?

Speaker 2 (45:15):
Oh yeah, yes, yes.

Speaker 1 (45:17):
How much market there is on Disney Plus for these
emotional narrative shows. I think it's great if we have them,
you know, teaching kids how to deal with their emotions, sure,
even if they're difficult is really powerful.

Speaker 2 (45:32):
But yeah, we don't have mister Rogers anymore. So yeah,
that's how I learned, was mister Rogers. Mister Rogers also
taught me that sometimes humans get into conflict with non
humans and witchers get stuck in the middle, and then
the witchers have to kind of act almost like where

(45:53):
the negotiator slash arbiter between these two groups, even though
the Witcher's real job is to kill mom.

Speaker 1 (46:00):
Was that the second half of the episode with the
actress who played the Wicked Witch of the West East
West West?

Speaker 2 (46:06):
He was Wicked Witch of the West? Yeah, yeah, Margaret, Yeah,
it was that one.

Speaker 1 (46:10):
Okay, because I don't I only remember the first half.
It was so impactful that I forgot the Witcher part.
But yes, we've got a trailer for Witcher Sirens of
the Deep. It looks fun.

Speaker 2 (46:23):
Yeah. Like I said, the setup here appears to be
that there are these I mean, they're essentially like Mrfolk
kind of or fish people that are in a conflict
with humans, and the very taciturn Witcher is lamenting the
fact that humans are sometimes not fully honest with the

(46:46):
reasons behind conflicts, like they're they're justifying conflict by portraying
these fish people as being monsters, and the Witcher's like, no,
I kill monsters. I know what they are. This is
this is something that needs to be resolved in a
way that doesn't involve one side completely eradicating the other.

(47:08):
Plus he gets to kill a lot of monsters in
the in the process.

Speaker 1 (47:12):
Yeah. I know. Some people are disappointed because the Witcher
in the cartoon is Henry Cavill's version of the Witcher,
not voiced by Henry Cavill, voiced I think by the
actor who does his voice in the video games, and
it has Yes Giera and Hannafher in it and all that,
so they're.

Speaker 2 (47:29):
Like, oh, Yeah, it's I'm not so deep in the
Witcher lore. I've only ever played a little bit of
the Witcher three. I actually have all three of the games.
I just those games are such a huge time commitment.
I haven't really dove into them. H So my familiarity

(47:49):
with the Witcher series is next to nothing. So I
don't really have a stake in this.

Speaker 1 (47:55):
Yeah, next we have Hey do you think is good?

Speaker 2 (48:01):
Well, let's talk about another trailer for another movie that
tells you probably.

Speaker 1 (48:05):
Not there you go, that's better than he's just going.
Next we have this for that. Uh. Yeah, there's a
movie coming out called Renner about a guy played by
Frankie Munitz who creates an AI and I guess accidentally
programs his mother's personality into the AI. And his mother

(48:27):
is not a great person from what we can tell
in the trailer, and or at least isn't. The AI
isn't and Frankie gets a girlfriend. The AI's voice is
played by Marsha gay Harden and Frankie Means's character gets
a girlfriend and the mother AI does not like it.

Speaker 2 (48:45):
Yeah, this again feels like we have had so many
movies that play around with similar themes. Most of the time,
it ends up being that the AI is somehow jealous
of some other entity, right like, and then the AI
turns sinister. That happens in Megan, It happened in that

(49:06):
Megan Fox movie we were talking about. It happens, and
it appears to happen in that other AI robot movie
we were talking about like last week, and again, no
big surprise. AI has been such a huge topic of
conversation over the last couple of years that obviously we
were going to get a glut of sci fi horror

(49:27):
movies with AI as the villain, and goodness dows, that's
not new either. We've had AI science fiction horror stories
for decades. Uh. This one it's interesting because it actually
makes me think of the movie Christine. Did you ever
see Christine?

Speaker 1 (49:44):
No?

Speaker 2 (49:46):
Okay, So it's based off of Stephen King novel and
the basic story is a teenager who ends up getting
this car, the car one. Yeah, it's a car. That's
it's a car that ends up gaining intelligence and through
his intern actions with the car, the kid becomes more
confident and popular, but then the car also gets jealous

(50:07):
of the kid, forming romantic relationships with other people This
is kind of the same thing as since it's a
robot instead of a sentient car. So there's nothing wrong
with any of this. I'm not trying to downplay that,
but we've seen it before. The interesting thing is the

(50:27):
second half of this trailer has the AI telling Frankie
Munis's character, someone's trying to get at my code. They're
out to get me and they're out to get you.
And it looks like it turns into like a paranormal
psychological thriller in the second half.

Speaker 1 (50:45):
Yeah, yeah, like maybe the mom ai was right about
this girl that showed interest in him, or.

Speaker 2 (50:51):
Maybe maybe she's inventing it all. Oh maybe maybe there's
no one out to get him, Maybe no one's out
to get her code. Maybe she's doing this. He focuses
on her and not the girlfriend character.

Speaker 1 (51:05):
So it is still jealousy, but it also feels a
little unique in the jealousy play that they're doing.

Speaker 2 (51:11):
Yeah, and there it looks like there's like some culture
personality stuff because you get to see Frankie Muniz essentially
mutilating himself to some extent. Yeah, it's pretty gruesome, but
that yeah, it's so that part to me is interesting.
Because like the first half, I'm like, we've seen all
this a lot, actually, and then the second half I

(51:35):
was like, Okay, I haven't seen this.

Speaker 1 (51:37):
Yeah, it looks if it weren't so gruesome, it would
look almost funny and I would be for it.

Speaker 2 (51:42):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (51:43):
You compared it to Megan, though, and surprisingly it's not
the movie that is being made by the Megan creators
that we're going to talk about, but the Woman in
the Yard is.

Speaker 2 (51:52):
Yeah, and this one is not a Roebut movie. It's
a ghost movie, or at least it looks like it
is it.

Speaker 1 (51:59):
Honestly, I saw this and I didn't add it to
the lineup because I was too scared to watch through
the entire trailer, Like it made me. The first like
half of the trailer made me anxious, and then I
turned it off, so I wasn't sure if it would fit.
I'm glad you added it because then I did go
and watch through the entire trailer.

Speaker 2 (52:17):
I'm interested because so often like I love ghost stories.
I love ghost stories, and I love movies that are
ghost stories, good ones. Anyway, I was interested because this
is the first time I remember seeing a trailer to
a like a ghost movie where all the characters appear
like all the characters I saw in the trailer anyway,

(52:39):
are black, including the ghost, when frequently this ends up
being the domain of very pale British white people. So this,
I feel like, has an opportunity to dive into some
folklore that doesn't get shown as much.

Speaker 1 (53:00):
We had a lesson also kind of hit this tone
with the majority black cast a horror movie. Yeah, but yeah,
it looks interesting. It also looks there's a little bit
of blood, there's a little bit of scary in it,
but it looks very suspenseful, honestly. It also kind of
reminded me of a Doctor Who episode in the latest

(53:21):
season where the companion keeps seeing this creepy woman who
is saying something far away, and she can never get
closer to the woman. The woman is always exactly the
same distance from her, but whenever anybody else goes to
talk to the woman, they run away scared and never
talk to this companion again. So it vaguely reminded me of.

Speaker 2 (53:45):
That interesting, well, fine story. I don't know enough about
what the story is going to be in this based
on because the trailer was pretty like it was more
atmospheric than it was revelatory as far as the narrative goes,
but I'm certainly intrigued. I think that the visuals look

(54:07):
really good, like the cinematography and the lighting and the mood.
The atmosphere feels sufficiently creepy to me, And that's what
I really love about a good ghost story is I
love that creepy atmosphere and the tension that's there. I
always find like a good ghost story doesn't necessarily have
a ton of jump scares. It might have a few,

(54:28):
but for the most part, the actual emotions you feel
are a little more substantial than just a oh it's quiet,
oh loud noise.

Speaker 1 (54:39):
Yeah, yeah, I agree. Something that was not quiet at
all was the trailer we finally got for Daredevil Born Again.

Speaker 2 (54:48):
Yep. I was excited to see the trailer opening with
Matt Murdoch sitting down to chat with Wilson Fisk and
has apparently been elected mayor of New York.

Speaker 1 (55:03):
So that's in the comics, yes, yeah, which means that
he's still not a good guy, but he's not the
or at least the trailer makes it look like he's
not the main antagonist.

Speaker 2 (55:14):
Ariel though, I mean, come on, how believable. Is it
that a man who is a convicted criminal would go
on to get elected to a powerful position like mayor
of New York? What kind of world would we be
living in?

Speaker 1 (55:27):
Jonathan, quit filling yourself full of more beans.

Speaker 2 (55:31):
I'm full of beans today.

Speaker 1 (55:34):
Uh yeah, it's it's interesting. It looks uh. The trailer
for this makes it look as gruesome as the Netflix
the original Daredevil Netflix series was. Yes, And I actually
had a friend after watching the trailer say can they
please stop showing the mutilation of limbs? And I have

(55:55):
a theory, And my theory is because this looks like
a very violent sho more so than Echo. And my
theory is they put it all into the trailer so
that people could not go into the TV show not
knowing what they were getting in for. So they wouldn't
be like, oh, yeah, you can watch Daredevil. He was
in she Hulk to their kids, that's fine.

Speaker 2 (56:15):
He was in Spider Man.

Speaker 1 (56:17):
Yeah. So like I almost I wonder if the show
will not be quite as gory as a trailer because
they just really wanted to warn everyone.

Speaker 2 (56:26):
Yeah, I think, you know, obviously, they have to try
and appeal to the fans of the original Netflix series
because that first season is still one of the best
seasons of Marvel Television. I think Wandavision's better, but I
think Agatha All Along is mostly better. But Daredevil's real good.

(56:49):
And I also liked seeing some other characters that are
being pulled into the MCU now, like Frank Castle. You
know that's great. Luke Cage, I believe might have shown
up in that, so.

Speaker 1 (57:06):
I missed him. If he did, I know Foggy and
Karen are back, so.

Speaker 2 (57:09):
Yeah, I saw so full disclosure. I saw a just
a thumbnail for a video that was going through all
the like Easter eggs on the trailer or all the
little character moments in the trailer, and it had Luke
Cage on the thumbnail. That does not mean that Luke
Cage necessarily shows up in it, because it could very
well be that that was clickbait because I didn't have

(57:32):
time to watch the video.

Speaker 1 (57:33):
I hope he does. I loved It's so interesting because
I loved Luke Cage. I didn't think he had the
strongest series on Netflix, but I loved his character so much.
He was so likable and I really rooted for him.

Speaker 2 (57:49):
I definitely want Jessica Jones back in the action too.

Speaker 1 (57:53):
Yeah. Yeah, ooh that's hard though because her her later
she only had two seasons, right, yeah, her second season
and was not like it wasn't bad, but in comparison
to the first season of Jessica Jones.

Speaker 2 (58:07):
It just yeah, like the first one was like, you know,
setting her up against her ultimate nemesis because it's the
person who has set her life on the path that
it is. And and to have it, oh yeah, brilliantly
handled but very upsetting. But yeah, to have that resolved

(58:27):
in one season, which honestly, like it would have been
a tough call, like do you say, okay, let's not
resolve it in just one season without knowing for sure
if you're going to get a season two, or do
you wrap it up in the first season? But then
where do you go for season two? Like what is
her next big hurdle? But yeah, I'm looking forward. I mean,

(58:51):
I've been looking forward to the Daredevil return for a while.
I'm hopeful that Daredevil will get incorporated in some mc
you cinematic stuff, like I would love to see me
Matt Murdoch show up as part of the Doomsday Aventures
film for example.

Speaker 1 (59:08):
Yeah, that would be great. I will say the main
villain for Daredevil Born Again, at least for this first season,
looks to be a character called Muse.

Speaker 2 (59:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (59:18):
And when I did research on that way more upsetting
than Wilson Fisk.

Speaker 2 (59:24):
I have not yet looked into. I saw that it
was Muse, like I saw again, like one of those
thumbnails where it's is, here's what to know about Daredevil
villain Muse. But I haven't watched it, so I don't.
I am unaware of how upsetting it is.

Speaker 1 (59:39):
I mean, I can tell you I don't know if
it'll be a huge shocker, but I cannot if you
don't want.

Speaker 2 (59:46):
Oh wait, okay, oh wait.

Speaker 1 (59:49):
Okay, just just a warning out there. What Mews does
is at least to me, pretty upsetting.

Speaker 2 (59:54):
So that's fair. I mean, they're not they're not good guys.
Uh So, Yeah, we got Dared Devil Born Again coming up,
and it looks to me like they've really decided to
lean pretty hard on the Netflix aesthetic of Bone goes
Break now, so we'll see how that turns out. On

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the Disney Plus service. We also got a trailer. Aeriel
shared a trailer of a wild Chinese mythology film creation
of the Gods to Demon Force.

Speaker 1 (01:00:32):
Yeah, it's I guess, the second in a trilogy adapted
from a Chinese novel Investiture of the Gods, And yeah,
it's basically these two forces fighting, but they have all
these gods and demons and dragons and stuff fighting with them,
so it this is this is no way to belittle

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this story. But the only thing that I've got to
compare it to is if there were an entire movie
set with with the tone of the Land of the
Ancestors in shang Qi, but in for in the for
real world and not in some hidden glade, it made

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no sense.

Speaker 2 (01:01:18):
I was thinking, like, the trailer made me think like,
what if we took the battle at Helm's Deep but
made it an entire movie, and also there were more
mythological critics involved. But yeah, I clearly don't have the
cultural context necessary to truly understand what's going on in

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the trailer. I will say, like, it looks wild, like
really crazy action. And I'm sure if I did have
that knowledge of Chinese cultural touchstones that that this would
resonate more with me. I think it looks entertaining, but

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I would be completely out of my depth if I
try to watch.

Speaker 1 (01:02:06):
It, Yeah, I want to. I want to go back
and watch Creation of the Gods Wan Kingdom of Storms,
and then I want to watch this. There's a lot
of times.

Speaker 2 (01:02:14):
Where like.

Speaker 1 (01:02:17):
My my algorithm will suggest foreign movies to me, and
I really need to stop sleeping on them because you
miss cool stuff like this.

Speaker 2 (01:02:26):
Well yeah, and if you sleep on them, you can't
read the subtitles, then you have no idea what they're saying.
That's true.

Speaker 1 (01:02:31):
You also can't plan on your phone while you're.

Speaker 2 (01:02:32):
Watching, It's true. That's also true, which is good. Like
being able to actually paying attention to stuff is good.
Like I've you know, I'm really guilty of the second
screen stuff. So when I can like set things down
and just pay attention, I always enjoy it more and
I certainly have better recall if I do that. Otherwise

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it's like.

Speaker 1 (01:02:55):
Yeah, no, go ahead. Otherwise it's like.

Speaker 2 (01:02:58):
Otherwise it's like I didn't watch it at all. Like
you could say, like, hey, what about when such and
such happened?

Speaker 1 (01:03:04):
I'm like, what, Yeah, yeah, for sure. One of my
goals and I'm not super successful at it, but I'm
working on it. This year is to be more present
to put down my phone more. I work on that
a lot, just because I'm always I always, I'm like,
I have to stay on top of everything, and the
phone is an easy way to do that.

Speaker 2 (01:03:22):
But yeah, yeah, I have gone back and forth between
trying to limit as many notifications as possible in my
life too. Now I need all the notifications because my
role and my day job has changed and I need
to be really responsive, and it is wrecking me. I'm
sure I'll find a balance. I'm just not there yet.

Speaker 1 (01:03:44):
Yeah, I do put. I have started doing this when
I do auditions and also when I work, and then
at night I will Because I work in short, like
short bursts of time, I can do this. It's a
little easier for me. I will put my phone on
do not Disturb so I don't get those notifications, and
then when I take a break, i'll take it off

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do not Disturb, and then i'll put it back on.
It's great when I need to focus on a script
or I'm trying to get ready for bed, so I'm
not bombarded with the fifty thousand things to put my
brain on.

Speaker 2 (01:04:14):
But you know what's wild is when I was in
my early twenties, we didn't carry phones with us, and
if someone wanted to get in touch with us and
we weren't home, the phone would just ring unless we
had an answering machine, and then you could potentially leave
a message on a piece of cassette tape and I

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wouldn't hear it until I came back home and played
the cassette tape, and then I would know that someone
was trying to get in touch with me. And otherwise
I could just live my life and be president in
the moment, and everything was so much nicer.

Speaker 1 (01:04:48):
I mean, there's definitely that there's some benefit to being
able to reach somebody in an emergency.

Speaker 2 (01:04:54):
Yeah, I just I just don't don't let it be me, y'all,
because if you're reaching out to be in an emergency,
things have gone real bad.

Speaker 1 (01:05:01):
Now, did I'll take you off my contacts.

Speaker 2 (01:05:04):
Okay, Well, now that we've finished with that, so I'm
gonna guess that you did not watch our next trailer
because I, oh no, no, I'm sorry, I slipped ahead.
You watched it.

Speaker 1 (01:05:13):
I watched them all, Oh.

Speaker 2 (01:05:15):
Really, even the ones I told you you could skip.

Speaker 1 (01:05:18):
Even the one who said please skip this.

Speaker 2 (01:05:19):
Yes, Okay, Well, we're not quite there yet. I skipped
our next one, which is for Fallen. Fallen originally was
a young adult romance fantasy novel series, and it's been
adapted a couple of times, but now we're getting a
series on AMC starting February sixth, and there are some

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hints as to what Fallen is kind of about, Ariel.
I'm curious unless you looked it up, did you catch
on to what was going on?

Speaker 1 (01:05:52):
I caught on and then I looked it up, okay,
to make sure I was right. Yeah, I mean do
we want to tell I guess we can tell people.

Speaker 2 (01:06:03):
Yeah, I mean, like the books have been out forever,
there's six of them, I think six. But the surface
story is a young woman is accused and essentially convicted
of a crime, essentially involuntary manslaughter or manslaughter at least,

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but she has no memory of it, and she is
shipped off to kind of a juvenile corrections facility called
the Cross and Sword or the Sword and Cross, Sword
and Cross, one of those two, and there there's like
a group of other young adults who are all there
for various reasons, and she's still not entirely sure why

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she's there. And then weird stuff is happening, and also
there's a cute boy and isn't he cute? And weird
more weird stuff happens in the trailer. But what's that
actually going on?

Speaker 1 (01:07:00):
Are what what actually is going on is Lucy is
the main character is Lucifer is a fallen angel basically,
and uh, I can't remember does she has? She not
picked sides yet. There are some angels there, there's some
demons there, and one person, her love interest, who hasn't

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picked a side which side he's on?

Speaker 2 (01:07:25):
I mean, they're essentially all angels, it's just they're all
fallen angels and some of them have sided with Lucifer,
and Lucy is Lucinda, she's not Lucifer, okay, And some
of them have sided with the Throne a ka god
uh and and Daniel her her would be fallen angel

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boy Toy, who whom she has loved in numerous other incarnations.

Speaker 1 (01:07:55):
And she always dies when she does.

Speaker 2 (01:07:57):
She always dies. Yeah, it's kind of a bummer. It's
a very happy death day sort of thing for loose
oh Lucy. But anyway, he's the one who hasn't picked
a side, and it's like both sides are evenly matched,
and so both sides are vying to get Daniel to
join them because that will give them the tipping point

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they need to finally win out over the other side.
And the romance novels mostly follow Lucy learning about herself,
her past, her relationship with Daniel. You know why they
all fell in the first place, because it's not exactly
she doesn't remember anything. Yeah, she doesn't remember anything. She

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has no memory. She's also, I believe it's she's not
technically an angel in this incarnation. She she was an angel,
but for some reason, she's not an angel in this incarnation.
That's just what I know from osmosis about this series. Uh,

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the trailer made me think, Okay, it's Twilight but angels.

Speaker 1 (01:09:07):
It's Twilight. Yeah, that's better than me. I was like,
it's Riverdale meets Kingsman meets Supernatural, but Riverdale because it's
so teeny boppy. But teeny boppy. God, why did that
come out in my mouth? Boomer, I'm not I'm not

(01:09:27):
even jen X geez.

Speaker 2 (01:09:29):
That's true. I'm the old one in this guest. But yeah,
I mean, if it's your bag, you should definitely check
it out. It's not my bag. I don't foresee myself
watching this unless I'm at like a friend of the show,
Shaye Lee's place, and she just has decided that this
is the thing that everyone has to watch while we're there.
I don't otherwise think I'll see it.

Speaker 1 (01:09:51):
It didn't make our lineup. But also, there was a
trailer for the prequel to Outlander that's coming out.

Speaker 2 (01:09:57):
Oh yeah, I did see that. There was something about that.
I was just like, ah, menon kilts.

Speaker 1 (01:10:03):
It follows it. It follows Jamie, who's the main guy's parents,
and it follows Claire, the main woman's they're the main
characters her parents, and I don't think they're either of
their parents ever time travel, So I'm not sure how
it connects.

Speaker 2 (01:10:19):
I'll say, like, it's going to have to cut back
and forth between twentieth century and whatever century outland.

Speaker 1 (01:10:25):
Land already does, so you know, we'll see I don't.
I don't necessarily know if it counts without the time
travel as geeky, but.

Speaker 2 (01:10:32):
That's another It's another series I never got into, but.

Speaker 1 (01:10:36):
Something it has real like some people I know love
it and some people I know hate it because there's
a lot of like unconsensual stuff. Ooh yikes, I mean
from bad guys.

Speaker 2 (01:10:50):
Yeah, but I mean like that's it's such a it's
such a a stereotypical go to, like how do you
how do I make people hate my villain? I know,
I'll have my villain force themselves on innocent people. Yeah,
it's that's rough. I mean, it could be effective, but

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it's rough.

Speaker 1 (01:11:13):
It's effective. It is really rough. It makes it incredibly
hard to watch. Also because me, because I'm I am
that way. The sex also makes it hard for me
to watch, but because it's it's very there. But but
the real secretly gen Z the relationship. I don't understand that.

Speaker 2 (01:11:37):
Oh gen Z's apparently are really against depictions of sex
and media.

Speaker 1 (01:11:46):
Well, you know what, I I'm not always against it,
but I do think that there is a certain art
to panning to the fire, pain place or fading to black.
And I've always been that way, So I guess I've
always been gen Z cool. I'll take it.

Speaker 2 (01:12:02):
Right, I'm too. I grew up in the era of cinemax.
I was corrupted from a young age.

Speaker 1 (01:12:08):
But I will say, like the acting in the show
is very good, and the relationships outside of those moments
are very, very fun to watch, and the jumping through
time is interesting. So it is a mixed bag. I
am not caught up on it. It is hard for me.
I do a lot of fast forwarding through it.

Speaker 2 (01:12:28):
Gotcha, gotcha comes off, fast forward comes on? All right. Well,
the trailer where I suggested Ariel skip it, and I'm
surprised you watched it anyway, is the full trailer for
The Monkey. And we talked about this for the teaser.

Speaker 1 (01:12:46):
Yeah, I watched the teaser, so I figured I'd watch
the whole thing.

Speaker 2 (01:12:49):
This one was gorrier than the teaser. The teaser was gory,
and this one was. This one had some viscera and
it was pretty gross. But if you're unfamiliar with The Monkey,
it's based off of Stephen King short story.

Speaker 1 (01:13:02):
And it's a lot like Christine. No, I'm kidding.

Speaker 2 (01:13:06):
So there's a wind up monkey, like a wind up
monkey toy where you wind it up and it plays
a little drum, but every time it does, disaster strikes
and somebody dies. And this again is based off a
short story that Stephen King had written, and it gets
fleshed out literally and figuratively in this film. The deaths

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look pretty extreme. Like, it's not It's not just like, oh,
a shotgun, a loaded shotgun in a closet fell over
and discharged and happens to kill someone. No, it's a
shotgun fell over and discharged and now the person who
was standing in front of the closet has been vaporized.

Speaker 1 (01:13:51):
Yeah there. Yeah, and then there's like the body bag
that's just goo.

Speaker 2 (01:13:57):
Yeah, that was the part where it was like when
I saw that that that's the part where I said,
I need to warn Aeriel about this.

Speaker 1 (01:14:03):
I kind of expected it because in the teaser it
does show a person like cutting off their finger, which
is honestly more upsetting to me.

Speaker 2 (01:14:12):
I actually have a real hard time with fingers, fingers
and eyes when it comes to body horror. Fingers and
eyes in particular really bother me.

Speaker 1 (01:14:19):
I mean I have issues with body horror in general. So, yeah,
what parts of it were hard, But I did watch
it on fast forward, so that helped.

Speaker 2 (01:14:26):
Yeah. It's also clearly got like a wicked sense of
humor going on with it. There's like an element of
very dark comedy being incorporated, at least into the trailer.
I'm assuming it's actually in the movie and it's not
just manufactured for the trailer, which is interesting, Like the
short story doesn't have dark comedy elements in it at all.

(01:14:50):
But I don't blame the filmmakers for incorporating dark comedy
into this, because otherwise it can come across as such
a Chris premise that I would worry about people laughing
at my movie if I did not intend for them
to laugh at it.

Speaker 1 (01:15:07):
Yeah, yeah, I think. I think having the comedy in
there is, or the humor in there is an important move.
Also having the cast that they have also helps give
it a little more weight. Yeah, because Tanya Mislani, Elijah Wood, THEO,
James Sarah Levy.

Speaker 2 (01:15:29):
Yeah, yeah, it looks it actually looks kind of entertaining.
So I probably will watch this. It comes out February
twenty first, so that one's on my radar to.

Speaker 1 (01:15:41):
Tell me all about it. I will fast forward over
the parts that I don't want to watch.

Speaker 2 (01:15:48):
Next up, I don't know why it's highlighted. It hard
to light up. But we got a trailer for a
kind of a thriller film called Cold Wallet. It's one
of those psychological movies. The only reason I included it
here is because it circulates around the idea of some

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cryptocurrency investors or people who have sunk money in cryptocurrency
suddenly finding themselves at a loss, and so they decide
they're going to rob a guy who I presume they
blame for whatever happened to the cryptocurrency. It's not entirely clear,
but they've got this target who is clearly a more

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wealthy individual who owns cryptocurrency, and they want to get
at his storage wallet, which they know is stored on
some external hard drive, so that's why they're calling it
cold wallet. They're there to steal the cold wallet, a
digital wallet that is not actively connected to a computer.

(01:16:56):
But then the guy that they've targeted is up playing
mind games with them, So it's almost one of those
situations where the hostage is the one who starts calling
the shots. So it's an interesting like all of these
elements I've seen before in different movies, but not like
in this combination.

Speaker 1 (01:17:16):
Yeah. Yeah, it's got Tony Cavallero and who I wasn't
familiar with until I watched The Connors, but he's done
a bunch of stuff and I tend to really like him,
and who the guy who is playing the victim who
ends up being not the victim that you were talking
about is Josh Brenner, who is also one of the
voices of Donna Tello, the teenage mutant Ninja Turtle, So

(01:17:38):
it makes sense that he would be the one kind
of pulling some strings because Donna Tello is really smart.

Speaker 2 (01:17:43):
Uh yeah. Also, one of the most famous bitcoin purchases
ever happened, like back in twenty ten, where someone spent
ten thousand Bitcoin to buy a couple of pizzas, So
Donna Tello would be really interested in that too.

Speaker 1 (01:17:58):
Yeah yeah, See, brought it right around to extra geeky,
from just kind of geeky to extra geeky.

Speaker 2 (01:18:06):
That's what I do, It's what you do.

Speaker 1 (01:18:10):
In some sadder news, Sony has canceled some of their
live service PlayStation games that they were working on, most
notably a God of War multiplayer live service spin off. Yeah, Sam,
that's not too sad about it.

Speaker 2 (01:18:27):
No, I don't think it's I don't think anyone should
necessarily be sad about live service games getting called well, okay,
let me backtrack. I find live service games to be
a sticky situation because the whole purpose of those games
is to continue to exist and convince people to continue
to spend money on them, and often this can be

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done in ways that are fairly predatory. I think not
everything is predatory. There are games out there that do
it well, but it's hard to do well, and it's
very easy to do it in a way that is
kind of exploiting the player base. So live service games
kind of have a bad reputation because there's only a
few out there that are really doing it right. And

(01:19:12):
a lot of the companies have been incentivized to develop
live service games because again, it's a way to continue
to generate revenue off of a single title, you know,
instead of like releasing a title and then people buy it,
and then that's kind of it. Maybe there's a long tail,
but it's not as robust, and then you have to
go right back into the development cycle to make the

(01:19:34):
next big title. If you make something like a grand
Theft Auto online and people continue to spend money on
it year after year after year, suddenly you don't need
to worry so much about building the next big thing
because your current big thing is still bringing in money.
So live service is rough. Now. The part where I
think is, you know, kind of tragic is that this

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means the studios that we're developing these games now have
to redirect and figure out what the next step is,
and that's always a risky situation, especially in a market
where we've seen time and again layoffs across the industry.

Speaker 1 (01:20:12):
Yeah, Bloomberg did see an email from Sony that said
they're doing everything they can to ensure there's minimal business impact.
I was less aware of the live service reputation. I
was more sad that, you know, a God of War
spinoff game was being canceled, So that's my bad. But
if Sony's trying to uphold a higher quality of service

(01:20:36):
to their player base, then that's good. And if they're
trying to make sure that as many people can keep
their jobs as possible, that's even better.

Speaker 2 (01:20:42):
So yeah, yeah, So, Like, I don't think live service
games are automatically terrible, but I do think they're hard
to do in a way that players find like acceptable,
because otherwise it just feels like you're being exploited. Like
I think back to the Suicide Squad game that came out,

(01:21:03):
a lot of people really dunked on that one and
said it was obviously an attempt to create a live
service cash grab and that the game suffered as a
result of that. And you know, it's tough, Like it's
it's hard to find that balance because, like, game development

(01:21:24):
has grown to be an incredibly expensive venture, and finding
a way to make it profitable without having to sell
a copy to every single human who's ever lived it
gets tough.

Speaker 1 (01:21:37):
Yeah. Yeah, I mean, and I you know, I'm currently
playing Ascension with my parents, which is wow. But it's
free unless I want to buy stuff. But I don't
have to to play the game or enjoy it.

Speaker 2 (01:21:47):
Yeah, So there are there are versions of this that
are done very well, and like, like, I like the
ones where what you're paying for tends to be for aesthetics, Like,
it's not for anything. It's not that is required for
you to be able to advance the game further. You
can advance the game as much as you like, but
if you want certain like esthetic components to customize your character,

(01:22:12):
maybe you drop a couple of bucks in order to
do it. That I think is fine. I've also, I mean,
I've played mobile games where I've occasionally dropped some money
because I'm like, dude, I've been playing this game for
three or four years, and the developers, I feel, deserve
some cash because they've made something that's entertained me for

(01:22:32):
countless hours while I'm like waiting in line or something.
So like, I think there are ways to do it correctly.
But honestly, if this was one of those things where
they detected that the direction they were going in was
perhaps not the best, I think it's I think it's
the right call.

Speaker 1 (01:22:47):
Yeah, I agree, I agree. Okay, well, we are down
to our last story, which is also about video games.
Hey hey, not about a hey Hey video game. Now,
this is not a chicken.

Speaker 2 (01:23:02):
It's Alan Tudix. Hey Hey, the video game.

Speaker 1 (01:23:05):
I mean, people have played the untitled Goose game and
scroll with a gun. It's not outside of the realm
of imaginability.

Speaker 2 (01:23:13):
I have to admit, if there was like a hey
hey game that was akin to those that you just mentioned,
I would be intrigued. But instead, it's that we got
our first look at the Nintendo Switch, to which you know,
obviously people have been waiting for this for a while.
There was a lot of expectation that it would be

(01:23:33):
unveiled last year that just never happened, but we.

Speaker 1 (01:23:37):
Got it was an alarm clock instead, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:23:39):
That's true. We got a really really expensive alarm clock,
like I think it was like one hundred dollars alarm
clock something like that. It was crazy. But no, we
finally got a little promotional video showing off the physical
appearance of the switch to and a little bit of
gameplay of a Mario Kart game at the end, but

(01:24:00):
was beauty shots CGI beauty shots of the switch To,
which has a larger screen than the original switch. It
looks like the controllers have been redone a little bit
as well. But apart from that, we didn't get like
a rundown of new specs or anything, so like I

(01:24:20):
don't know, like how much better the resolution is or
any of that stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:24:25):
Yeah, but we do know we're getting a Mario Kart game,
and it looks like maybe an old side scroll or
Mario game. I'm not sure.

Speaker 2 (01:24:31):
Yeah, it wouldn't shock me if there were a couple
of like like anchor Nintendo game titles that are released
at the same time as the switch To. That that's
typically what they do. I know a lot of people
are really excited about this. They've a lot of folks
have felt that the switch has been showing its age

(01:24:52):
over the last year or so. We still don't have
a date for when the Switch Too will come out.
They said that they will reveal more at a Nintendo
Direct event that will happen in April. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:25:05):
Yeah, so we'll just have to wait a few more
months and that's it. I don't want to own a switch,
but I would like to play more Mario Kart. Now
that's it. Fair enough episode, unless you've got something else
to add. You know, you had to look, you're just
waiting for me to get past my brain block. Yeah.

(01:25:27):
Thanks everyone for listening to us. Jonathan was full of
beans and I apparently am full of tissue. I don't know, uh,
just my brain cotton candy. My brain is not there.
It's melting. So thank you for going on this crazy,
wild journey with us. We love that you listen and
you share in all this geeky newths with us. If

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you enjoyed it, listen to tell your family and friends
so that we can continue to build this geeky, amazing community.
And Jonathan, if they want to get in touch with us,
how do.

Speaker 2 (01:25:59):
They do Well, You're gonna go outside and you're gonna
see that hanging in the air in front of you
is like this big sort of gold block just like
in the air. It's gonna have this big question mark
on it. I'm gonna need you to walk right underneath
that big block with the question mark, and you're gonna
need to jump up as high as you can and
punch straight up in the air to hit the underside

(01:26:21):
of this block. You We'll then hear a noise and
you'll see a little shadow. I need you to move
to the forward side of that block because there's gonna
be this giant mushroom that's gonna fall down. You're gonna
need to grab that mushroom when it falls to you,
and I'm gonna need you to eat it now. I'm
not gonna lie. Stuff is gonna get weird, Okay. You're
gonna be seeing some unicorns. There's gonna be like a

(01:26:45):
soundtrack playing that is like vintage music from the Beatles,
but is legally distinct in a copyright sense, so that
you're not gonna get a strike against you for your
weird hallucination that you're having. You're going to go on
an adventure. On that adventure, you're going to encounter an

(01:27:06):
AI controlled robot that's going to make you floss, both
in the oral health sense and also the Fortnite dance sense.
You're also going to run into a woman in black
who's just sitting in the yard for some reason. Don't
bother her. Just trust me on this one. Eventually, you
will come up to a bunch of people who are

(01:27:29):
behaving in a way where clearly they expect their internal
emotions are on external display for you, but they're not.
So they're just gonna seem crazy. But just let them
get back to their softball game. Everything will be fine. Finally,
after all this happens, it's gonna have gotten really late
at night. You just have to be alert until dawn

(01:27:55):
and then you'll see me show up and I'll say,
this isn't like the game at all. But you can
ask me your question.

Speaker 1 (01:28:01):
And if you were busy scrolling on your phone and
you weren't present for all of those instructions, no, I love,
I love all of your I love that was so much.
That was so much work that you probably did on
the spot, to name so many things we talked about.

Speaker 2 (01:28:14):
It was great.

Speaker 1 (01:28:15):
Even even at my best, I can't remember all that.
And as I said, my heads full of gotten candy.
So if you're like me and you want to reach
out to us in an easier way, you can do
so on social media on Facebook, Threads, Instagram, and discord.
We are Larger Drum Collider. On Blue Sky we are

(01:28:36):
LNC podcast. Yes, I know that's different and confusing from
everything else we do, but everything else was too long
for a Blue Sky account name. Or if you want
to send us a long form message to tell us
what you like, what you'd love to see detailed thoughts
on anything, you can email us at Larger Drumpot at

(01:28:56):
gmail dot com. We will have all of our show
show notes up on our website, along with an invite
to the discord on our website www dot large nurdronklighter
dot com. And until next time, I'm Ariel, I need
way more coffeecasting and I'm Jonathan.

Speaker 2 (01:29:14):
I think I'll run for mayor Strickland.

Speaker 1 (01:29:18):
You'd be better than so many of the options.

Speaker 2 (01:29:22):
Gotta get to be in the criminal. The Large Nerdron
Collider was created by Ariel Caston and produced, edited, published, deleted, undeleted,
published again. Curse That by Jonathan Strickland. Music by Kevin
McLeod of incomptech dot com

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