LNC Sings Spooky Halloween Songs

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Speaker 1 (00:10):
Hey, everybody, Welcome to the largenr John Collider Podcast, the
podcast that's all about the geeky stuff happening in the
world around us and how very excited we are about it.
I'm aerial cast and with me it's always is the
wonderful Jonathan.

Speaker 2 (00:23):
Strickland where wolf a mitzvah, spooky, scary, very always becoming men,
men becoming wolves again. Yeah, which leads right in to
our question. I'm wasting no time, Okay, So I decide

(00:44):
our question of this week would be, you know, what's
what's a favorite or a song you like that is
is uh relevant for the spooky season, doesn't have to
be directly about Halloween or anything, but kind of has
those spooky vibes to it.

Speaker 1 (01:05):
I don't know if it fits. My first initial thought
is the whole being dead thing from Beetlejuice the musical,
and mainly because I really like how they're able to
how they have revamped the lyrics to fit whatever situation
they're in. So not only is it a spooky song,
but it's improvy and changeable and I like that.

Speaker 2 (01:30):
Yeah, because they did a slightly different version when they
were at I think it was the.

Speaker 1 (01:33):
Tony's and they did a different version for the Thanksgiving
Day parade the year they did that.

Speaker 2 (01:39):
Yeah, of course they have to because there's some language
in that song that can't be broadcast.

Speaker 1 (01:45):
Yeah yeah, I mean really, I enjoy a lot of
the Beetlejuice soundtrack, and beyond that, I would say just
some of the basic, like really old school stuff like
Monster Mash and Purple People. Sure that's those are those

(02:05):
are my answers.

Speaker 2 (02:06):
So, so my favorite is were Wolves of London by
Warren Zevon. So it's a great song. His hair was perfect.

Speaker 1 (02:16):
I don't know if that has anything to do with
the song itself, Jonathan.

Speaker 2 (02:19):
It's in a lyric I saw a werewolf standing outside
with a Pinacolada trader vix. His hair was perfect. Oh
I love that song. But here are some other songs
that if you were to make a Halloween playlist, these
are the ones that would be on my Halloween playlist.
So dead Man's Party by Oingo Boingo, fantastic song, Psycho

(02:44):
Killer by Talking Heads, Uh, Superstition by Stevie Wonder because
that is an absolute all time classic. When you hear
that that funky organ starting up, Oh my gosh, it's
so good. Bad Moon Rising by Creden's Clearwater Revival, Don't
Fear the Reaper by Blue Oyster Cult. Here's my shows stopper,

(03:11):
my campy Halloween song Anything Can Happen on Halloween, made
famous by Tim Curry and The Worst Witch. Oh my gosh,
I'll send you a video after the podcast. It is
so The Worst Witch was like I think it was
made for HBO back in the day, so it's like
a made for TV movie but for cable TV, and

(03:34):
it's based off a series of books. And Tim Curry
shows up very briefly. It's essentially a cameo and he
sings this incredibly cheesy song called anything Can Happen on
Halloween that is is almost cringe worthy, but I unironically
love it. Also, our friend Lucas occasionally sings this at karaoke,

(03:57):
which is special. Also on my list right hand by
Nick Cave and The Bad Seeds made famous by the
Screen movies.

Speaker 1 (04:05):
That's my character's theme song for the actual play I'm in.

Speaker 2 (04:08):
Well, the cover of it, that's great. That's a great song.
I have the cover of Googo Muck by The Cramps,
which was made famous by Wednesday.

Speaker 1 (04:18):
Wednesday.

Speaker 2 (04:18):
That song was originally recorded by a group called Ronnie
Cook and the Gay Lads. That's just their name, but yes,
the Cramps would be the one that did the cover
that got a lot of airplay after Wednesday came out. Also,
Zombie Jamboree originally by Lord Intruder, but I actually prefer
Harry Belafonte's version of that song. And finally, Bela Lugosi's

(04:44):
Dead by Boohus. That's a two fer instance. Bella Lugosi
played Dracula.

Speaker 1 (04:50):
That's pretty awesome. There is one other song I want
to add to my list, and I'm really surprised it's
not on yours, hmmm, which is Night on Bald Mountain.

Speaker 2 (04:58):
Oh yeah, if you're doing class pieces, then Night on
Bald Mountain would be there, Dance Macabre would be there,
like there there are a few classical Hall of the
Mountain King Like, there's a couple of classical pieces that
I would throw in their box to Cotta and Fuguen
d Minor is another big one. But yeah, I was

(05:19):
mostly thinking of like pop and rock songs, fair and
novelty in the case of anything can happen on Halloween.
But yeah, so if you're if you're thinking I need
to make a playlist of Halloween songs, that's a good start.
There's lots of other versions and lots of other songs
out there, obviously, but those are like the ones that

(05:39):
would be the kind of the anchor for my playlist.

Speaker 1 (05:43):
I have one other spooky song, yeah yeah, Raven Boys
by ten Penny Travelers.

Speaker 2 (05:49):
Okay, which is bad for anybody who doesn't, which is
a variation on Bedlam Boys.

Speaker 1 (05:56):
Is Boys, Yeah, yeah, it is, which I also like.
I just we've had a counter melody and some like
I like the way we do it.

Speaker 2 (06:03):
Yeah. No, Bethlem Boys is also a really creepy song,
like it's it's legit already a creepy song before even
you get into your particular flare on it. Yeah, that's
a good one. I think I was waiting for you
to say I'm a Barbie girl or something like that.
I thought that was where you're gonna like, like really

(06:25):
throw it into left field.

Speaker 1 (06:26):
Here's the thing, though, is like I don't usually think
of music as spooky, and if I do, it often
like leaves my head. I'm sure there are other, like
more alternative songs that I also find kind of spooky,
especially if you listen to the lyrics. But like I know,
there are a couple indie indie rock kind of bands
that have some very spooky songs to me, but I
can't seem to remember them.

Speaker 2 (06:47):
Oh I. For me, it's like, because I like a
lot of subgenres of rock and punk, there are a
lot of songs that kind of fall into that category,
or they're close enough. So like the horror at Party Beach.
There's a band called Sloppy Seconds that does a song
this based off this super cheesy b movie from like

(07:09):
the nineteen sixties, or you know, I think of you know,
even songs like Welcome to the Jungle or or Highway
to Hell are adjacent, right, like they're in the neighborhood.
But there's no shortage of songs that are based in

(07:29):
and around spooky stuff. I mean their entire bands like
The Misfits or you know, Rob Zombie that have done
like entire albums in that kind of field.

Speaker 1 (07:42):
Yeah, you didn't even mention anything from from Rocky Horror,
did you?

Speaker 2 (07:50):
I did not. I thought about throwing time warp in there,
because I mean that that's often a song you will
hear on Halloween playlists. I would actually probably do science
fic double feature if I were going to do any
of the songs from Rocky Horror on a playlist. I
think it's just more thematically appropriate. Maybe there's a light
at the Frankenstein Place.

Speaker 1 (08:11):
Yeah, but that song isn't. I don't know, It's not
my favorite.

Speaker 2 (08:14):
I like it a lot. I like the play version
a lot because it has another verse in it. The
movie cuts an entire verse, Brad's verse. Actually, most of
Brad's songs got cut in the movie version. Brad Brad
got it the short end of the stick. Yeah. Yeah,
but there we go. So that's that's that's our list

(08:37):
of spooky appropriate songs. Let's now talk about stuff we've
watched since the last time we recorded. Ariel.

Speaker 1 (08:44):
You want to go first, Yeah, I've watched a third
of a more of an episode of Wednesday season two.

Speaker 2 (08:53):
It takes you, It takes you. It takes you shifts
to get through an episode.

Speaker 1 (08:58):
Yeah. The problem is like I'm putting it all in
when so like the past couple of weeks have been
super busy. I'm prepping for I'm prepping for a show,
and I'm going into the studio to do a studio
recording with Artsy and my actual playes started. So there's
a whole bunch of stuff that like, and I'm in
like two acting classes and so there's a whole bunch

(09:20):
of stuff I'm doing. And so it's really when I
sit down because I don't have the brain anymore to
do anything else. And usually the period of time that
I have to do that is only like fifteen or
twenty minutes before I go to do something else or
Tony gets done with his work and we watch something together.
But we have been watching stuff together. So we've been
watching task Master. We're down to series six, and we're

(09:43):
also caught up on series twenty.

Speaker 2 (09:46):
So you're working both ways outward.

Speaker 1 (09:50):
Yeah, we started with nineteen and worked away backwards, but
series twenty just came out. It's really cool, like because
it's it's dropping in the UK and the US at
the same time on YouTube, which has some pretty potentially
cool connotations for that sort of media distribution and timing.

(10:11):
And then we have watched everything but the final episode
of Peacemaker.

Speaker 2 (10:16):
Okay, okay, well I watched the final episode of peace
Maker season two. I have lots of oh, I'm giving
a big aerial great choice for an audio podcast. She
was indicating either a thumbs up or a thumbs down.

Speaker 1 (10:32):
Listen, listen, I only got like four hours sleep last night.

Speaker 2 (10:36):
I'll give an audible thumbs up. I was concerned about
where the last episode was going to go based upon
the penultimate episode, because the penultimate episode ends in a
way where I'm like, Wow, there's a character who's in
a very very dark psychological place, and I don't know

(10:57):
how they're going to reconcile that. I will say that
in my opinion, this is just my opinion. I felt
the reconciliation was a little too easy and quick, honestly,
like based upon But their are counter arguments you could
make to that, so I'm not saying my opinion is

(11:18):
the right way to look at it. I could easily
be persuaded to think otherwise, depending upon what tax someone
took when they were talking about it. We will be
talking a little bit about it more in thirty seconds
or less, so I'll withhold the rest until we get
to that. But overall, yeah, positive. I thought they did

(11:39):
a good job. I thought it was interesting what set up,
and I don't want to spoil anything for anyone who
hasn't seen it yet, so I'm curious to hear what
other people think. I also watched a horror movie, not
a horror movie, really a ghost movie. Horror is way
too strong a word. I watched a eight because it
was more of a sad movie, though the end does

(12:00):
get really freaking tense, Like for most of the movie
it's just kind of sad, and then the last like
fifteen minutes are really super tense. But it's a movie
called Presence. It came out last year. Steven Soderberg is
the director. I don't know that you would love this one.

(12:23):
This is a very slow moving film. It's one where
I absolutely say do not read about it if you're
going to watch it, because yeah, don't read about it.
You could totally watch this areal It's it's not there's
nothing in it. I think that goes beyond your your boundaries.

(12:45):
It's a very slow moving film. It is told from
the perspective of the presence within the house.

Speaker 1 (12:53):
So what interesting.

Speaker 2 (12:54):
The camera view is always the presence, so you are
you are gliding around this house, which means like they
had to rely on ambient lighting inside the rooms, and
they couldn't. They couldn't mount lights or anything because the
camera would see it as you were moving in and
out of rooms unless they did some very clever edits,

(13:16):
but I get the sense they didn't do that. It
looks to me like it's a like a digital camera
on a gimbal system, so it's kind of like a
steady cam and it sort of glides through, and there
are a lot of little time skips where the screen
will go dark and then it'll suddenly be forward in time,

(13:36):
and it's it's very hard as the audience to determine
how much time has passed, but that's on purpose, and
I could see people saying that it's boring or very slow.
I loved it. It's also kind of the examination of
a family that's on the verge of potentially falling apart,

(13:57):
so and you only get bits and pieces of why
that is because you're seeing it from this presence's point
of view, and the presence is not always present when
things are unfolding. So very interesting. I thought it was great.
I could understand why some people would be turned off
by it because it's just very slow. The other thing

(14:19):
I watched were the first two episodes of Haunted Hotel.
This is that animated series. One of the writers of
Rick and Morty is behind it. It's okay, like it's
a comedy series, but nothing made me even close to laughter,
Like I didn't feel like laughing at all. And it

(14:42):
also it also feels very derivative of series like Ghosts, right,
Like I mean it's it's got the same basic premise
as Ghosts in many ways.

Speaker 1 (14:52):
Yeah, I have a couple of friends who liked it,
but I don't know it falls Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (15:01):
I just I don't know, Like none of the jokes
landed for me. I didn't think they were terrible, they
just it felt very bland, like very mediocre. Now, maybe
it gets better as you go further into it. Like
I said, I've only seen two episodes, so maybe as
I go further. If I do go further, I'll like
it more. But from what I've seen, it's just very.

Speaker 1 (15:20):
Bland, which is sad because I really like the actor
who plays the ghost, Jimmy Simpson's incredibly talented and funny.

Speaker 2 (15:30):
I believe Jimmy Simpson's playing Abadon, who is not a
ghost but is a demon possessing the body of a
seventeenth century child.

Speaker 1 (15:38):
Yes, yes, that is who he's playing.

Speaker 2 (15:40):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, there.

Speaker 1 (15:43):
You can tell. I haven't watched it, but I can.

Speaker 2 (15:46):
The main characters are there's a mother, her thirteen year
old son, and her tween age daughter who's the real
like there's some real Louise energy going on with the
tween age daughter, like she from Louise Bob's Burgers. She's
very much a troublemaker kind of character. Then you have Abadon,

(16:07):
who is a demon in the body of a seventeenth
century boy. And you have the uncle played by Will Forte,
who is the former owner of the hotel who died
and willed it to his sister, the mom character. So
that's that's your basic core group. And yeah, and they're

(16:29):
running a hotel that's haunted by lots of different ghosts.
And yeah, as I was watching it, I was like,
this feels like ghosts, but not as good.

Speaker 1 (16:40):
I do think that I would enjoy it more than
whatever that live action haunted house hotel show.

Speaker 2 (16:47):
That was being made American horror story. It's the only
one I could think of.

Speaker 1 (16:53):
Like there was another comedic one where a family moves
into a house or a hotel. It had oh when
he played Phoebe Buffet.

Speaker 2 (17:04):
Oh, Lisa Kudrou, is that the one with Brian Cox
in it?

Speaker 1 (17:08):
I believe?

Speaker 2 (17:09):
So that's that was the dark the dark comedy one.
Not like it wasn't a lighthearted comedy. It was more
of a satire as I call it.

Speaker 1 (17:17):
No, that's that's not That's not the show that I
was saw, Not the one where everybody wants to move
into the same house.

Speaker 2 (17:23):
Oh okay, I didn't think that was the one I
was talking about either, but maybe it was.

Speaker 1 (17:30):
Maybe that's it.

Speaker 2 (17:33):
I don't know. Uh yeah, Lisa Kudro, Parker Posey, Brian Cox,
Edie Falco. Yeah, yes that one, Yes, this is that's
the one. I said. It was more of a dark comedy.
It's a comedy horror. That one's a film, not a series.
But yeah, oh is it a film.

Speaker 1 (17:54):
There's so many of these things where I'm like, that
is a TV concept, that is a movie concept, and
then apparently I'm wrong.

Speaker 2 (18:01):
I mean saying like it's That's why I always have
to look it up before, like and take notes on
it before we do one of these episodes, because I'll
be like halfway through describing a trailer and then realize,
I don't know if this is a movie or a series.

Speaker 1 (18:15):
I do look it up, I just don't take notes,
and then I forget. Hey, great cinema. Plus, you guys
had to listen to me try to figure out what
this movie was for five minutes for absolutely no reward.
It's great audio listening.

Speaker 2 (18:27):
Yeah, so let us move to a smooth section that
we like to call. Hey, that didn't take that long,
so I'll start. In an interview, James Gunn revealed that
there are no current plans for a Peacemaker season three,
so if you've seen the end of season two you
might be left saying what the why? But don't worry.

(18:50):
Guns plan is to incorporate developments from the series into
the larger DC Cinemac universe. Now, I'm not going to
go into any more details because spoilers, but this is
good news for folks who have become fans of John
Cena's incredibly dumb jerk face anti hero.

Speaker 1 (19:06):
John Cena is such a good actor, Okay. Jim Henson
Company is hitting like seventy five years their anniversary, I believe,
and they're doing some cool things. On November twenty fifth,
we are getting the first ever official auction of a
bunch of Henson Puppets, props, memorabilia, stuff from Muppets, Sesme Street, Labyrinth,

(19:29):
and The Dark Crystal. And along with that, if you
listen to this episode soon enough on October twelfth and thirteenth,
The Dark Crystal is being re released into theaters in
four K. I think all that's very cool. I will
not be able to look at the auction stuff if
it is online at all, because I don't have that
kind of money, but I will want to buy everything.

Speaker 2 (19:50):
Yeah. No, I looked ahead at some of the things
that are being auctioned off and they are in the
tens of thousands of dollars in some cases. Well, this week,
discussions for a lie the action adaptation of Disney's Tangled
started up again, and the rumors say that Scarlet Black
Widow Johanson is in consideration to play the live action
mother Gothel. Now. I think it might be fun to

(20:12):
see Johanson playing an outright despicable villain, though in general
I'm not a huge fan of the live action adaptations
that Disney's been doing. Still, if it has done well,
maybe I'll check this one out.

Speaker 1 (20:25):
Cynthia Arrivo is moving into voice acting. I don't know
if she's done that before, honestly, but she's going to
be in an animated musical called Bad Fairies, and she
is playing a character, a fairy character called James Staplegun,
which I think is a great name for a bad fairy.
That's really what we know about it. It's being done
by Locksmith Animation, who did Ron's Gone Wrong, and Warner

(20:49):
Brothers Animation. But yeah, it's about some fairies that are bad.

Speaker 2 (20:53):
Yeah, I'm on board. When asked if he'll be showing
up in either the next Spider Man movie or Avengers Doomsday,
Andrew Garfield gave a categorical no. Actually, he also included
some colorful language that I can't say because this is
a family show. But he also admitted that no one
is likely to believe him because he categorically denied being
involved in Spider Man No Way Home, and yet he

(21:15):
showed up in that. This time, I think he actually
means it.

Speaker 1 (21:22):
In Broadway News, Keanu Reeves and Alex Winter are tearing
it up in Waiting for Goodow. I've seen a couple
of Eclipse in like interviews and stuff, and it looks delightful.
Apparently they asked Keanu Reeves if they'd be willing to
go back and do another Bill and Ted and Keanu
Reeves was like, for sure, Yes, I enjoyed the third one,

(21:44):
but I don't know that I need a fourth.

Speaker 2 (21:46):
Yeah. I saw the third one and I remember I
liked it, but I can literally remember nothing else about it.

Speaker 1 (21:52):
But for like nostalgia reasons.

Speaker 2 (21:54):
Yeah, the next season on Broadway, assuming we get one
with the Strikes and all, is shaving up to be
pretty weird. We're not only getting Schmigadoon but also a
musical adaptation of the nineteen eighties horror comedy classic The
Lost Boys the Vampire Movie. There was a cast announcement,
but I don't know any of the actors, so I'm
not going to list him here. For the show debuts

(22:15):
at the end of March twenty twenty six. And there's
one thing I can't stomach on Broadway. All the damn vampires.

Speaker 1 (22:24):
Now. I want to do a video with The Lost
Boys and Peter Pan, even though it's all very similar anyhow,
because that's the name. Okay, dexter resurrection, less vampires, more
serial killer. But it's getting a second season. Michael Sea
Hall is that his name, Yes, Michael Sea Hall gave

(22:45):
us the announcement. It was a little video. I don't know.
I almost feel like he was sick in the video
because it looks like he's laying down in just kind
of little energy, but happy about it. I haven't watched
Dexter or Dexter Resurrection or Dexter Muppet Babies yet.

Speaker 2 (23:00):
Fair enough, just as theaters are recovering from all the
chaos from the first Minecraft movie, we now know that
a sequel is on the way. Jared Hess will be
directing this one, just as he did the first one.
The new film is slated to hit theaters on July
twenty third, twenty twenty seven. Jason Momoa, who appeared in
the first film, is listed as one of the producers.

(23:22):
And there is no title for this movie yet. But
my bet is on Minecraft the Chicken Jockey Movie.

Speaker 1 (23:28):
I thought it was gonna be Minecraft Don't destroy the theaters.

Speaker 2 (23:32):
Yeah, we won't let you in if you bring a chicken. Yeah,
which I think just should go as a blanket rule. Anyway,
probably does. People just were sneaking chickens into theaters.

Speaker 1 (23:44):
I mean, like I get it chickens can be good companions,
but not in a theater. Not in a theater. Not
in a theater. I never I haven't seen the Minecraft movie.
I had a friend who saw it.

Speaker 3 (23:55):
You know.

Speaker 1 (23:56):
It's definitely for kids, that's the thing, right, If you
go in as an adult to watch it, maybe you'll
enjoy it if you've got the right sensibilities, but you
might also find it really dumb because it's not necessarily
made for you.

Speaker 2 (24:08):
Yeah, I mean, there there are ways, obviously, to make
kid focused material appealing to everybody, Like, there are plenty
of shows and movies that have done that in the past.
It's not always easy, but it's not easy to make
a good anything, right. It takes a lot of work
and talent in order to do that, and sometimes a

(24:29):
lot of luck depending upon the situation. So but yeah,
I feel like, like, one, I understand what you're saying, Ariel,
But I also I always always get my hackles up
with the defense of, oh, but this is for kids,
because I'm like, yeah, but some stuff is for kids
that's just playing good, you know, and some stuff is

(24:50):
for kids where it's not good but kids don't care
because they haven't developed enough of brain cells to understand.

Speaker 1 (24:57):
Yeah, yeah, I mean yeah, but I mean there's a
place for both, right.

Speaker 2 (25:02):
Because sure, yeah, I mean especially for like, the younger
you go, the more like, the more of slack, I'll
give you. Right, So if you're aiming, if your aim
is for like the four to six crowd, I'm not
expecting waiting for Goodou or my dinner with Andre.

Speaker 1 (25:20):
No, No, that would be waiting for Plato.

Speaker 2 (25:22):
Yeah, waiting for Pladeaux. Yeah, thank you.

Speaker 1 (25:26):
I'll be here all week.

Speaker 2 (25:27):
It was a great It was a great joke. It
was a great joke. Aeriel Uh. Yeah, I I I
haven't seen Minecraft either. I don't have any real desire
to see it. I haven't seen like any of the
video game films that have come out over the last
like five years, because I don't have kids, so I
don't have a real reason to go. And I would
feel like a creep going to the theater to see

(25:49):
most of these, and I just haven't bothered watching them
at home. So I haven't seen Sonic or the Super
Mario Brothers movie or any of those.

Speaker 1 (25:57):
Yeah, I haven't either. I feel like I've seen some
more kids trick stuff. I can't remember what offhand, but yeah,
I also, I also don't have kids, so I have
to borrow my sister's kids.

Speaker 2 (26:08):
I think the only one I would be somewhat tempted
to watch at this point is maybe Detective Pikachu.

Speaker 1 (26:16):
I have seen that, but I saw it at home.

Speaker 2 (26:17):
Yeah. I'm not a Pokemon person either, so I would
be like, I'd be like, none of these references mean
anything to me, but I've heard that it's cute.

Speaker 1 (26:27):
Yeah yeah, I.

Speaker 2 (26:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (26:31):
There are kids movies I enjoy watching. They aren't really
related to video games very much. Detective Pikachu was okay,
And then there are adult video game movies that I
also don't plan on watching, like Tron Aries.

Speaker 2 (26:44):
So well, yeah, but that wasn't let's be fair, the
original Tron wasn't a video game, like, it wasn't based
off video games. It invented a video game.

Speaker 1 (26:54):
Yeah, yeah, that's true.

Speaker 2 (26:56):
I guess you could argue now the current Tron films
like Tron legas See and tron Aris are kind of
video game movies more so than the original was. But
uh yeah, I don't have much desire to watch that
one either. Because we've talked about this before, but it's
because of Jared Letto, I have no real desire to
want to support his work.

Speaker 1 (27:14):
Yeah, well, and like there are other people, like our
friend Crispy saw it, and there are other He's not
a big Jared Letto fan either, but there are other
people in the movie that Crispy does know that, you know,
he wanted to support, and I get that. It's yeah,
it's just not.

Speaker 2 (27:33):
Also, I prefer Daft Punk to nine inch Nails, you know,
like it's like the aesthetic of Tron Legacy intrigued me. Ultimately,
I found the movie to be almost as aimless as
the original. Like I still like the original movie, but
I recognize that is a mess of a movie, like

(27:53):
the original Tron is. I would not call it a
good movie, y'all. And I I once interviewed the director
of that film.

Speaker 1 (28:00):
But it was interesting from like a technical standpoint.

Speaker 2 (28:04):
Right, Yes, from a technical standpoint, it was amazing at
the time, Like you have to remember that at the time,
like this is like an era before computer animation. Really. Yeah,
And I don't know, like Tron Legacy, I if it
weren't for Michael Sheen in that movie, I think it
would be a complete loss for me. But Michael Sheen's

(28:27):
performance is the one and daft punk soundtrack. Those are
the two things in that movie that I legitimately loved.
If everything had been on that level, then I would
have thought it was one of the best science fiction
films ever made.

Speaker 1 (28:41):
Did you see the honest trailer for Tron two that
came out recently? They're like, they're like, Michael Sheen will
do any movie you want as long as he gets
to wear a bad wig.

Speaker 2 (28:53):
I mean, he's clearly channeling David Bowie. Yes, like it's
it's it's obvious that it's a David bow pastiche. But
I love it so much.

Speaker 1 (29:03):
Well, I do, like even when he's being completely campy
and goofy, Like I think he is an amazing actor
who does some projects that just really fall flat with me.
I guess Underworld was okay, but the Twilight Movies Tron
two was just okay. Yeah, But you know, he's also,

(29:27):
or at least was, a not for profit actor, so yeah,
but he doesn't need to live. He gives to charity
and like, I don't hear of many other people doing that.
So talented and really freaking cool.

Speaker 2 (29:39):
I mean he was he was a core component of
resuscitating a failed theater in Wales. That that to me
is because you know, he has his own background in
live stage theater and so he felt it very important
that they have their own national theater in Wales, and
he spearheaded an effort to save it, which is pretty amazing. Also,

(30:05):
anything he does with David Tennant is gold like. And
I'm not talking about their actual like project projects, but
whenever they're like sniping at each other, it's some of
the funniest stuff you've ever seen.

Speaker 1 (30:17):
Yeah, they've got a really good chemistry and I would
assume friendship that is just a delight to watch.

Speaker 2 (30:24):
Yeah, and I love how I love how it continues
to develop, like there's lore to it.

Speaker 1 (30:30):
Yeah. Welcome to our new podcast, The Michael Sheen Fan Club.

Speaker 2 (30:34):
Now yeah, yeah, let's now move into stuff that's not
quite a fit for our show. Although arguably, once again
some of these are are like borderline, and I would
include the first one, although it's more of a dark
comedy satire, but it's called no Other Choice.

Speaker 1 (30:55):
Yeah, I feel like this first one fits more than
the rest quite honestly, first one and the third one.
That's that's great for you all, Okay, So the first
the first stuff that doesn't fit we're gonna talk about
is as John had said, no Other Choice, which is
a story of here's the thing. Watching the trailer, it

(31:15):
kind of like my perception of the who was good
and who is bad? And it like switched in the
middle of the trailer. So it's about this guy who
needs like he needs a job and his family needs
to tighten their their her strings until why I use
that phrase, I don't know, until they can get some

(31:38):
money coming back in. And the beginning of the trailer
has the mom being like, we can't use the car,
we can't do soccer, we can't use our house, and
I'm like, this mom is weird.

Speaker 2 (31:47):
Well, I think I think what they mean is they're
selling their house and moving into a smaller place.

Speaker 1 (31:52):
It read to me like she was just like, Nope,
we have to live in a box until we can
move back into our because utilities are too big.

Speaker 2 (32:02):
Well, essentially what happens is the lead character he's laid off.
He's been working for a company for years and years
and years and he gets laid off and he's kind
of thrown into turmoil and is trying to find a
new job, and it turns out the job market is
really competitive. It is a killer killer market out there.

(32:23):
So he comes up with a clever idea.

Speaker 1 (32:26):
Which is to kill the competition. Yes, he's going out
with kindness.

Speaker 2 (32:30):
No, he's going to target the other candidates for the
job he's interviewing for and take them out with extreme prejudice.
So this is actually based off a novel. The novel
is titled The Acts. It's by Donald E. Westlake, came
out in nineteen ninety seven. That novel was actually adapted
into a film in France called Well. The English title

(32:53):
is The Ax in two thousand and five, so it's
not the first time that the movie's been adapted in
or the book has been adapt it into a movie.
And the director of this one is Park Chan wook,
who is known for movies like Old Boy, which if
you haven't seen, okay, first of all, trigger warnings out
the wazoo for Old Boy, like all the trigger warnings,

(33:17):
there's no trigger warning that doesn't apply. Yeah, so I'm
really excited about this. I think that Park Chan wook
is a really great director of South Korea and this
trailer it does look very satirical like it's not. I
wouldn't call this like an outright comedy. I described it

(33:38):
to friend of the show Shay Lee as imagine the
menu but with a meaner streak, and the menu already
had a mean streak to it.

Speaker 1 (33:48):
Yeah, I still need to see the menu.

Speaker 2 (33:50):
So good, it's so good.

Speaker 1 (33:51):
I need to see that. I need to see weapons.
I need to see spinal tap.

Speaker 2 (33:55):
All of those are good. You've seen Sinners, right, oh yeah, okay,
all right, so you've seen Centers, which is great, so
I would I would say weapons, the menu. Both of
those are like my you know, in the running for
my favorite films of the last several years.

Speaker 1 (34:11):
And then I think for Halloween, we're up to scream.

Speaker 2 (34:14):
For really, which I don't.

Speaker 1 (34:19):
Yeah, so we watched because.

Speaker 2 (34:20):
I know there's like Screams. I think Screams seven is
the next one coming out.

Speaker 1 (34:25):
So I've well, that's the thing, is like, uh, Tony
and I, because we don't get many trigger treaters, but
we want to be here for them, we watch it.
I think I've talked about this on the show before.
We watched a thematic movie every Halloween, and sometimes it's
like hocus Pocus or The Nightmare before Christmas, although I
think we watched that at Christmas last time. But but

(34:46):
then he was like a long time ago. He tried
to show me Scream and it was too scary. I
couldn't get past the beginning, which drew barrymore.

Speaker 2 (34:53):
Yeah, yeah, I it's intense.

Speaker 1 (34:56):
Yeah. But then you know, I finally was like, I'm
gonna do it. I saw it in the theater, and
it too in the theater.

Speaker 2 (35:02):
I can scream.

Speaker 1 (35:05):
Yeah, And so we watched Scream, and then we watched
Scream two, and then we watched Scream three. And Scream
three is my favorite so far because it is so campy.
And that's what I like about.

Speaker 2 (35:16):
That's the one that's set on a movie set, right, Yes,
that's the other reason you like it so much.

Speaker 1 (35:22):
I mean, you know, I wouldn't have pinpointed. I wouldn't
have said, like, oh, I like this because it's set
on a movie set. But it is funny, like it's
it's Scream makes fun of horror movies, and then this
or is referential, and then this makes fun of itself.
And I appreciated that it was less gory and a
little less viscerally violent as well, so I could enjoy

(35:44):
the story without the factor.

Speaker 2 (35:47):
I think. I think the first three are the only
ones I've seen. So if you do watch Scream four
this year, I think you'll be ahead of me. Oh yeah, finally,
which is I think I don't remember remember if i've
I don't think i've seen Scream four. I know I've
seen the first three. But yeah, because again Red right
hand Man, that that song comes into play big time

(36:09):
in the first film and a little bit in the
second one, like occasionally they use the bell sound. It's
a great effect in that movie. But yeah, need I
need to catch up and see the four or five
and six. I mean, Jenna Ortega shows up and Jack
Quaide shows up, and so I need to check those out. No.

Speaker 1 (36:31):
Oh, the other choice does look really interesting. It looks good.
It looks like, like you said, there's a comedy aspect
to it, and like some fanciful fantastical stuff in there too.

Speaker 2 (36:44):
Yeah, it looks like the filmmaking looks like it dabbles
maybe a little bit in the surreal, maybe to give
us an indication of characters like frame of mind or something.
But the movie, at least according to what I saw
on AMC's website, comes out Christmas Day.

Speaker 1 (37:04):
Yeah. The next thing that we have that doesn't fit
is The Death of Bunny Munroe, which is a TV series.

Speaker 3 (37:13):
Yes, ah, of a dad who is a traveling salesman
who's addicted to the sexy stuff and kind of taking
his kids along for a ride.

Speaker 1 (37:28):
And that's what the trailer shows us. Matt Smith plays
the dad, and it's just so weird to me to have, like,
even though Scarlett Johansson is a mom and Matt's Matthew Smith,
Matt Smith is a dad. Like, it's weird to see
them playing parental characters for some reason because they still
both feel very youthful to me.

Speaker 2 (37:46):
And Scarlett Johanson a lot of her I mean, not
to minimalize her talent or anything, but she's often cast
in roles that are leaning heavily on her sex appeal
and so thinking about as she's a mom kind of
makes the brain short circuit occasionally.

Speaker 1 (38:07):
Yeah, yeah, so that's what it is. There's it's actually
like I couldn't tell quite from the film, but it's
a pretty dark story. It looks like or from the trailer,
it looks like a pretty dark story.

Speaker 2 (38:21):
So it's based off a novel can you guess who
the author is? I'll give you a hint. We've said
his name a couple of times in this podcast already.
He sings a song called Red Right Hand.

Speaker 1 (38:35):
Mike John Cena, I always said.

Speaker 2 (38:37):
Michael Cina Nick Nick Cave. Nick Cave of Nick Cave
and the Bad Seeds wrote a novel in two thousand
and nine, The Death of Bunny Monroe. It is a
dark story. The story really takes place after Bunny's wife
has committed suicide, and so that's kind of what precipitates
him taking his son on this road trip and kind

(39:01):
of just indulging headlong into a hedonistic kind of approach.
Not that he was from what I understand, not that
he was faithful to begin with. But there's also apparently
a story element that involves a serial killer on the loose.
I have not read the book, so I can't really

(39:22):
comment on it. This is just based off what I
read when I was kind of researching this series. Also,
we should say it comes out November twentieth on Sky
Atlantic in the UK, but there is no current release
date that I have seen for the United States, so
it might be a while before it comes stateside.

Speaker 1 (39:40):
It does look like the storytelling is really good, so
I kind of hope it does. I would be interested
in watching it. Yeah, I haven't read the book either.
My hope because Bunny Monroe is not the wife that died,
it is the main character. I would kind of hope
that the end would resolve in him repairing his father's

(40:01):
son relationship, though I doubt it.

Speaker 2 (40:04):
Yeah, well, we'll see. I having not read any spoilers,
I don't know how it turns out. Uh. I just
wanted to make sure I knew a little more about
the background without Like I, researching is tricky because you
want to you want to understand more, but you don't
want to spoil things for yourself, like like our next one,

(40:24):
Death by Lightning. I would hate to spoil the fact
that James Garfield is shot and killed by Charles J. Getto.
That actually, except that's history, that really happened.

Speaker 1 (40:34):
That's history. You like Assassins, right, I do.

Speaker 2 (40:37):
Charles Getto in Assassins is my favorite character.

Speaker 1 (40:41):
He is great great music.

Speaker 2 (40:43):
Oh yeah. The Ballad of Charles J. Getto is my
favorite song from the play, and Getto in general is
my favorite character. He is psychotic and delusional, which is
not that far off from the real life Charles J. Getto.
So this series is coming to Netflix on November sixth,

(41:03):
and it is following the story of President James Garfield
who ends up being targeted by the obsession of a
man named Charles Jay Getto and Getau just he has
dreams of greatness, like you might call it delusions of grandeur, right,
He just he thinks that he is destined to be

(41:27):
a great man, and he pursues this in a few
different ways in his life.

Speaker 3 (41:33):
And the.

Speaker 2 (41:35):
Comical tragedy of it all is that he's not very intelligent,
he's not very capable, and he believes himself to be
the opposite. So he's constantly failing. But he believes that
he's deserving of a place in history, and he wants
to be the ambassador to France. And this obsession ultimately

(41:59):
leads to a com prontation and the assassination of James Garfield.
Although technically Getoe shoots Garfield, Garfield suffers a wound, and
then Getto's argument was really it was the doctors that
killed Garfield, because he lingered for a long, long long
time after the shooting, and that ultimately it was because

(42:21):
the doctors were incompetent that Garfield died. The jury did
not see it that way, although Getto certainly had a point,
but he was ultimately the one who pulled the trigger.

Speaker 1 (42:31):
Yeah, I mean like his goal was to kill him,
right Yeah.

Speaker 2 (42:34):
Yeah, Just because he didn't succeed in doing it immediately
doesn't change much.

Speaker 1 (42:40):
Yeah. This mini series has a really good cast in
it as well. Well. Betty Gilpin plays Missus Garfield, Michael
Shannon plays President Garfield, Nick Offerman plays Chester A. Arthur.
Matthew McFadden plays Geto, who I just so so perfect

(43:02):
because you both love and hate him when.

Speaker 2 (43:04):
You look at him, right yeah yeah.

Speaker 3 (43:06):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (43:07):
And and Bradley Whitford is James Blaine as well, so yeah,
great cast. Uh And it's this is a I think
this is probably one of those moments in American history
that a lot of Americans are ignorant of, Like I
don't think. I think if you told people, like the
average person in America, average American says and did you
know that there was a president named Garfield, their response

(43:29):
will be you mean the cat?

Speaker 1 (43:32):
Yeah, yeah, I mean I knew, but also, yeah, go
watch assassins. I mean also this looks good. I will
watch this many.

Speaker 2 (43:43):
No, it does look good. It looks like it's very
well done. And it's also based off a book. It's
Candice Millard's book Destiny of the Republic. So if you
are curious about the source material, that's where you can go.

Speaker 1 (43:57):
Well, it does by lightning. Lightning is the bullet the
name of the gun.

Speaker 2 (44:03):
It's an excellent question because Getto was hanged. Obviously, this
was before the electric share, so it's not like it's
not like that. And I honestly don't know the answer
to your question. It might be the fact that they're
calling it death by lightning and referencing the gun. I
don't know.

Speaker 1 (44:21):
Interesting. And the last thing we have a trailer for
that doesn't really fit is a movie called Playdate. And
when I started watching this trailer, I was like, ugh,
is this is one of the characters Man Meat Mountain.

Speaker 2 (44:37):
Yes, Man Meat Mountain aka Alan Richson from Reacher. He
was one of one of the two man Meat Mountains.

Speaker 1 (44:45):
Yes, the main Man Meet Mountain.

Speaker 2 (44:47):
Yes, Yes, Man Meet Mountain number one in Reacher aka
Reacher Reacher.

Speaker 1 (44:54):
But so it's the story about a dad with anger
problems who takes his kid to the and meets another
who he thinks is a dad, and their kids get along,
and then it turns out that it's kind of like
a Central Intelligence that Rock Kevin Hart movie, sort of
a story where one of them isn't isn't necessarily the dad,

(45:16):
but actually like a spy or something, you know, Like
I because it's Alan Richson and Kevin James, and I
was like, I don't know, but as the trailer went on,
I loved it. And part of the reason I love
it is because one of the kids, at least one
of the kids and it gets to do some really

(45:36):
cool stunt work and I think that's awesome, Like that
must have been so much fun for that kid.

Speaker 2 (45:41):
And it looks I mean, I don't know if Alan
Ritchson was having a ton of fun, but it sure
does look like it, like he's being super goofy in
this trailer, which is again very reminiscent of Central Intelligence,
Like this feels like it could exist in the Central Intelligence,
you know, cinematic huniverse.

Speaker 1 (46:00):
I really enjoyed Central Intelligence.

Speaker 2 (46:03):
Yeah, it looks very very silly. There's a great supporting
cast as well. It includes Sarah Chalk and I love
Sarah Chalk, Alan Tudiic and I love Alent Tudick, Stephen
Root and I love Steven Ruth. Oh my gosh. Yeah,
all these, all these supporting actors are phenomenal. And it
comes to Amazon Prime Video on November twelfth. So I

(46:27):
might I do not like Kevin James. Okay, I have
not liked Kevin James or his well more specifically, I
don't like his projects. I don't know the man, so
maybe I'd like him just fine, but the projects I
have never been a fan of. Like, I don't think
I've seen anything with Kevin James in it where I
was like, I want to watch this, but this this

(46:48):
is cooled? Okay, well enough, Okay, I had no interest
in seeing Hitch, so there's nothing wrong with liking it.
It's just one of those things where it's like it's
never been my jam, you know. Also, he has been
in some stuff that I think objectively you could describe
as bad. I try very hard in this show not

(47:11):
to just declare things good or bad, but like to
make it clear that it either appeals to me or doesn't.
But I think Pixels is just bad.

Speaker 1 (47:21):
Yeah, I didn't watch that one. I didn't hate the
Ghostbusters all female cast as much as other people. And
he was in that?

Speaker 2 (47:31):
Okay?

Speaker 1 (47:31):
Was he in that?

Speaker 2 (47:32):
Or did he was Kevin James in that? I don't know,
Yeah he was?

Speaker 1 (47:37):
Was he apparently? Okay not it's pulling up on his
list of things, but it could be wrong. The internet
is often wrong.

Speaker 2 (47:46):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (47:46):
Oh no, he played a scared New Yorker ah the
part he was born to play. So I like that movie,
but he wasn't much in it, gotcha.

Speaker 2 (47:55):
Well that's it for the stuff that doesn't really fit
our lineup. Moving on, We're going to John Boy's horror Hutch,
and this is where I ask my beloved co host
Ariel did you bother watching either of these trailers?

Speaker 1 (48:13):
I don't believe.

Speaker 2 (48:13):
So it's fine. So both of these are foreign language movies,
and I actually think that's really cool, Like I'm so
used to see. I feel like a lot of American
horror movies, with the exceptions of things like sinners or
weapons that are clearly standouts, but a lot of American
horror movies are so generic and so bland. Like maybe

(48:36):
the monster or character design is interesting, and maybe the
theme is a little interesting, but they almost always fall
short for me, with the exceptions of things like weapons
or sinners, which are clearly standouts. I mean, those are
just great movies. So seeing stuff like this is really
exciting to me because it's from other cultures where one

(48:59):
that cultural touchstones that inform their horror are different, and
two they are still doing some really amazing work with
like practical effects. That brings us to the first of
the two that I want to talk about, Lily's Ritual.
So this is a Spanish horror movie. It's actually from

(49:20):
Spain that will premiere at Grimfest, which is a movie
festival in the UK, and that happens this weekend. The
New Zealand company Black Mendala has picked up the international
sales rights to this film, so hopefully we will see
it get a wider release. No word on that yet,
but apparently ninety percent of the special effects in this

(49:42):
horror film are practical effects, and you just don't see
that in most American films these days. Everything is digital.
So to see like practical effects for horror, I love it.
This trailer, by the way, is brutal, so be warned
before watching the trailer for Lily's Ritual. It doesn't linger
on a lot of the gore, but there's a lot

(50:05):
of gore in this trailer. I'll just say there's one
of my major ix in this trailer, which is seeing
someone's fingernail being pulled off their finger. Oh yeah, and
it's like close up, it is brutal, and that's one
of the few things that triggers me typically, And when
I saw that, I was like, Oh, I'm gonna have

(50:26):
to see this in the theater because this is it's
just so well done. I was so impressed that I
was so impressed that I forgot to be grossed out anyway.
The story follows a group of four young women who
are going to like a rental house, like almost like

(50:47):
an Airbnb kind of thing. It doesn't look like a
rundown scary house, but they're going there to do like
a Wiccan ritual. Although it turns out that apparently this
ritual actually has a sacrifice element for one of the
four women, and she doesn't know that going into it,
and that's where the horror comes in and she tries
to escape while all these supernatural things are going on.

(51:09):
It looks super intense and I cannot wait. I really
hope it gets international distribution. The other one is a
film called The Elixer. This one's actually coming to Netflix
on October twenty third. This one's from Indonesia and it's
a zombie outbreak movie. Now you might feel like I do,

(51:30):
that zombie films kind of have played out, like there's
just so many. We were flooded by zombie for so
long that it's kind of an exhausted genre. But this
looks still pretty interesting to me. The basic idea is
there's a family. One of the members of the family
is an aging man whose vanity gets the better of

(51:52):
him and he decides to create, you know, take a
potion made from traditional medicine to try and restore his youth.
But it turns out into a flesh eating zombie. And
then you get lots of zombie action. They are fast zombies,
not your slow moving George Romero's style zombies. They are
absolutely beastial. Their teeth chatter, they have, their eyes are

(52:19):
all glazed over. There's a scene where there's just the
upper half of a zombie walking on its hands as
fast as people can run that I was just like, man,
this looks amazing, So I will be watching this. It's
like I said, Netflix, October twenty third. So if you're

(52:40):
a zombie fan and you don't mind the fact that
you're going to be reading subtitles, I would check this out.
I'm planning on doing it when it comes out.

Speaker 1 (52:49):
I might be able to I like, I like oddly,
even though I don't like cannibalism, I can do some
zombie stuff. There is some zombie stuff I like. Reading
sometime might make it easier because that does sound really
interesting it.

Speaker 2 (53:03):
If I were to give it, like, if I were
to compare it to another kind of zombie movie, like
as far as Vibes go, I would say, like, imagine
twenty eight days later, except that you're able to watch
it from the moment the zombie outbreak happened, So it
obviously wouldn't be twenty eight days later. It would be
day zero, right, But it feels like that kind of

(53:27):
intensity and those sorts of zombies so interesting. Yeah, I'm
very much looking forward to it interesting.

Speaker 1 (53:34):
I feel like twenty eight days later, i'd I don't
know if it holds up as well as like, I
don't know if I'd like it as much now as
I did back then.

Speaker 2 (53:44):
Yeah, I haven't. I don't think I've watched it since
it came out, but I really liked it when it
came out. Part of the problem again is that since
twenty eight days later it came out, we've had so
many different zombie properties, right, and it's just like again,
like after a while, you know, Trained to Busan was great, obviously,

(54:06):
Sean of the Dead was great. Early the like maybe
first season of Walking Dead was pretty compelling television for me,
and then after that it just felt like misery, so
I stopped watching. But you know, we've had so much
it's hard to kind of go back and revisit things
that were early influences for what would follow.

Speaker 1 (54:31):
Yeah, well we're onto the actual things.

Speaker 2 (54:36):
Yeah, as per usual, we start getting up to the
hour mark and then we're ready to talk about our lineup.

Speaker 1 (54:43):
And I'm not unenthused. I'm a little off today. I
don't know if y'all can tell. I had some medical
stuff this morning. But I am excited to talk about
a lot of this stuff, even though it didn't just
sound like it.

Speaker 2 (54:57):
Yeah. The first is a series that's coming to Apple
TV plus a nine episode season that launches November seventh.
It's called Plura Bus and this one's pretty high concept
and also mysterious.

Speaker 1 (55:15):
Yeah, so it doesn't give you a whole lot in
the trailer, but if you read the logline about it, it's, uh,
there's a woman who is miserable and she has to
save the world from being happy. So my like, it
seems like maybe the world is artificially happy or overly
happy or something.

Speaker 2 (55:35):
Yeah. Apparently there's a virus that has affected everyone in
the world with the possible exception of this one woman.
Maybe there are others out there, but this one woman
is the one that the series focuses on, and the
virus makes people content and optimistic, but artificially so.

Speaker 1 (55:55):
Yeah. And the one woman is played by Riha Sehorn.
She was in Better Call Saul. She's an amazing, amazing actress,
so I kind of want to watch it for her alone.

Speaker 2 (56:07):
Yeah. And this comes from Vince Gilligan, who was the
creator for Breaking Bad, so it's his next project. So
it's kind of a high concept, science fiction based sort
of story. I don't know how much science fiction it's
going to get into, but like this, it reminds me.
I think it's the video games title was We Happy Few,

(56:28):
which is a reference to a speech from King Henry
the Fifth. But anyway, we Happy Few was a game
in which you're in a dystopic UK where everyone has
to take a medication called Joy, which makes them artificially happy,
and then you decide to not take the medication and

(56:51):
you start to see the world for what it really
is as opposed to what everyone perceives it to be.
It was a game that had a lot of potential,
and I think a lot of people felt that it
ultimately failed to live up to that. So maybe the
series will succeed in ways that that video game failed.
It's not It's not apples to apples anyway. It's not

(57:12):
like these are both the exact same idea. It just
reminded me of that.

Speaker 1 (57:17):
Yeah, I'm I'm so gonna watch it. I'm so looking
forward to it. I mean, I've liked everything of Vince
Gillians that I have watched. Now. I didn't watch much
of The X Files, but.

Speaker 2 (57:31):
I watched all of Breaking Bad, and I think that
that is possibly possibly the best TV show I've seen
from beginning to end. As far as like a satisfying conclusion,
it was crazy. It was a it was a crazy conclusion. Yeah,
but I mean, it made sense, like it ended the
way it needed to. Better Call Saul is one that

(57:53):
I need to watch. I have not watched that one,
and I've heard that it's even better than Breaking Bad.
I just haven't watched it.

Speaker 1 (57:59):
I really enjoyed, like by the end, I absolutely loved
Better Call Saul. It was a little slow for me
at the beginning, so like I started to watch it
and I kept falling off because I'd like, watch an
episode and then it was slow enough that it wasn't like, oh,
I have to see what happens next, right, because it's
also living in kind of this world where you know,

(58:21):
various points of Saul's life. Yeah, anyhow because of Breaking.

Speaker 2 (58:25):
Bad, right, because this is taking place before the events
of Breaking Bad for the most part, there's some book
and stuff where there's stuff that's happened after the events
of Breaking Bad.

Speaker 1 (58:35):
But it was very well done. I liked el Camino too,
I am, and I'm so excited to see this step
into sci fi. I'm so excited for the show and
I didn't know about it before yesterday.

Speaker 2 (58:46):
Yeah. Next up we get something that feels like it's
a distant cousin of minority report to me. It's a
film called Mercy starring Chris Pratt and Rebecca Ferguson. Chris
Pratt is playing a law enforcement officer who has been

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brought up on charges of murder, suspected of murdering his wife.
The judge, jury, and executioner is Judge Maddox, an AI
judge played by Rebecca Ferguson as part of an overall
law enforcement program called Mercy. So the idea is that

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the United States apparently has handed over the justice system
in large part to artificial intelligence, the idea being that
AI can't be biased or easily misled, and so Chris
Pratt's character is given the task of proving his innocence
within ninety minutes or else he will be executed for

(59:50):
the crime of murdering his wife.

Speaker 1 (59:53):
I do very much appreciate that they did not use
an actual AI actor for the judge. That they used
a real actor.

Speaker 2 (01:00:03):
Yeah, I mean, you know, Rebecca Ferguson is definitely an
actual person.

Speaker 1 (01:00:09):
Yeah. Like I liked Minority Report, it doesn't feel like
it's breaking any new ground, but it could be fine.
I really like some I really loved night Watch, which
is what I know. This The director timor Bechambetov from
I don't know if you ever watched night Watch.

Speaker 2 (01:00:30):
I have not.

Speaker 1 (01:00:32):
It's it's a foreign film, but it's also I believe
that's what he did. Yeah, he did, but it's kind
of like it's a fantasy horror. Then there's a night
Watch in the day Watch, and it's got like vague
matrixy vibes because it's they kind of fight each other,

(01:00:53):
and there's different like fantastical creatures and monsters in the
night Watch and the day Watch, and it's a little
bit of a noir. It's a little cheesy, but I
enjoyed it very much. But then he also did War
of the Worlds with was it ice Cube iced team?

Speaker 2 (01:01:07):
Oh? That one, the one where it's all like computer
and phone cameras. Yeah, that one got terrible reviews.

Speaker 1 (01:01:17):
It did, it did. But I mean he's also worked,
like I said, on stuff that I have liked. So
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:01:24):
Well, it looks, it looks intriguing. It comes out January
twenty third. Obviously, there are differences between this and Minority Report.
And Minority Report. It's not AI. It's like psychics who
are able to detect if someone's going to commit a crime.
In this case, it's AI that's adjuring whether or not

(01:01:48):
someone has committed a crime and then passing sentence. There
does seem to be the implication in this trailer. Implication
is two weak a word. There seems to be a
plot element in this where Chris Pratt's character is accusing
the AI judge of being biased against him for some reason,
so that he's arguing that it's impossible for him to
prove his innocence because the AI judge has already made

(01:02:14):
up its mind and that whatever he says won't matter.
So I don't know, I mean, yeah, well, based upon
what we've seen with AI over the last couple of years,
I think this is definitely kind of playing into a
lot of criticisms people have about AI in general, right, like,
I think, legitimate criticisms. I don't know if the film

(01:02:37):
handles it well, but I do feel like it's it's
trading on some of that stuff, some of the arguments
we've seen against Generative AI, most of which by the way,
I agree with. I don't. I'm not you know, we're
not big fans of Generative AI.

Speaker 1 (01:02:54):
Yeah. The next trailer we've got is the final trailer
for Predator bad Lands. Yep, I I am like seventy
five percent interested in this movie.

Speaker 2 (01:03:05):
I am ninety percent not interested in this movie.

Speaker 1 (01:03:09):
Really.

Speaker 2 (01:03:09):
Yeah, but I'm curious to hear what you have. This
is not judgment on you. I'm curious, honestly, what is
it about this that interests you? I?

Speaker 1 (01:03:21):
Well, I honestly, it's the it's the it's el Fanning.

Speaker 2 (01:03:28):
Okay, that's fair? Uh? Is that?

Speaker 1 (01:03:31):
Yeah? El Fanning, Ellie Fanning, el Fanning. Hell because she
plays the way land U Twani synth synth half half of.

Speaker 2 (01:03:41):
One Yea like the top half. They decide not to
do one where it's just the butt and legs of
a scent.

Speaker 1 (01:03:48):
That would be hilarious, it would be that's somewhere in
the movie.

Speaker 2 (01:03:50):
I think. I think if they ever make a blank
movie parody of Predator, they have to do that.

Speaker 1 (01:03:57):
I've heard absolutely amazing things from everybody I know who
has watched Pray, which was one of the newer Predator movies.
I kind of like the new direction they're taking with
it with the the property but the thing, and it

(01:04:19):
looks like it's gonna be fun. It looks like it's
gonna be a little actiony and a little scary. But
the thing I don't like or the CGI monsters. Yeah,
that looks very CGI to me.

Speaker 2 (01:04:27):
That's a big contributor to why I'm not as interested.
But the other part that and again this is not
judging anyone who's excited about this film. I think that's
awesome if you are.

Speaker 1 (01:04:39):
But okay, you can judge me.

Speaker 2 (01:04:40):
No, not at all. I don't judge anyone for this.
It's just for me. The thing that appeals to me
about the Predator movies is not knowing a whole bunch
about the Predator, Like it's a mysterious monster, and you're
focusing on the humans. The human characters are the protagonists,
and that's what's interesting is them trying to survive. Again,
it's this seemingly unstoppable killing machine. And the war you

(01:05:07):
learn about the unstoppable killing machine, the less interesting it
is to me. And so for this movie like to
use this unstoppable killing machine as the protagonist, I'm not
really interested. It doesn't appeal to me. I would much
rather see a human story and keep the Predators as

(01:05:27):
largely unseen monsters. That's what makes them so menacing and threatening,
So it's really the fundamental story that doesn't appeal to me. Again,
I'm not saying it's good or bad. I'm just saying like,
for me personally, I don't find the appeal. The movie
does come out in November seventh, so for those who
are interested, it won't be long before it's here. So

(01:05:51):
maybe I'll be totally off base. Maybe all the reviews
will be incredibly glowing. It's just not what I look
for in a Predator movie.

Speaker 1 (01:05:59):
Yeah, we also got another trailer for Dragon King, which
is the kick started successfully kickstarted, very successful project that
is kind of a spin off of the Dragon Prints,
along with creators from Avatar and Legit of Korra and
Liam O'Brien from a critical role. The new trailer, I

(01:06:21):
don't know. It didn't bring me in as much as
the first trailer like the Kickstarter trailer did, but that
might be because I, yeah, I don't I hadn't seen
the dragon Prints, so I don't really know any of
that lore.

Speaker 2 (01:06:35):
That's exactly my same reaction was. I was like, I
don't know who these are or why I should care,
or like what's going on. But if you are a
fan of the Dragon Prince, you should be happy that
that Kickstarter funded super well. Like its goal was two
hundred and fifty thousand dollars, and when I last looked,

(01:06:55):
it was at over eight hundred and seventy thousand dollars,
so almost four times what they're definitely more than three
times and almost four times what they were looking for.
So that's great. That's very encouraging for the artists and
everybody the creators there. But yeah, I don't know what's happening,
so I don't know what to care about. So I

(01:07:18):
thought the animation was well done, and I like the
character design, especially like the the character that shows up.
She's got like a prosthetic leg that looked super cool.
I like the character design, but I didn't know. I
was like, I don't know what's happening. Yeah, I don't

(01:07:38):
even know where this is.

Speaker 1 (01:07:39):
Set along the lines of I don't even know what's happening.
We also got a trailer for The Witcher season four.

Speaker 2 (01:07:47):
Yeah, this is the first season that has Liam Hemsworth
as Geralt, when previously Henry Cavell had played that role.
Cavill famously left the series partly because he was at
the time hoping to play Superman again, although that didn't
work out, but also because he, from what everyone has

(01:08:08):
said so allegedly, he had issues with the show taking
greater departures from the source material, and that was he
was having a real personal issue with that. He did
not like it, and from what I understand, fan reaction
to this trailer has largely been negative. That doesn't mean

(01:08:28):
that it's going to be a mainstream failure, but there
are sub sections of the Witcher fandom who have been
really critical of this trailer, largely saying that it it
departs too much from the source material.

Speaker 1 (01:08:46):
As someone who is not a like Witcher video game
or book fan, I don't care. Honestly, if it departed
from the source material, it might be a little bit
easier to understand there's so much going on.

Speaker 2 (01:08:58):
Yeah, yeah, I also well, I've never I've played the
Witcher three, but I never got past the beginning because
it was one of those games that was just so
big that I felt like, no matter what I did,
I wasn't even going to make a dent, and it
just kind of discouraged me. It's kind of like if
you were to get into Skyrim without ever having played
any other video game ever, you'd be like, no, this

(01:09:20):
is too much. Give me pac man, let me work
up to it. So, yeah, I've never read the books
and I haven't watched any of the series, so I
have no skin in this game. Like I have not
watched anything or read anything in this So I will
say as a nice change of pace, at least some
of the discourse I've seen online is people reminding each other, Hey,

(01:09:44):
this isn't Liam Hemsworth's fault. Like he's an actor who
has been hired to do a role and he's doing
the best he can with the material he's given. So
don't heap any you know, hate his way. Save that
for the producers, Joe Runners.

Speaker 1 (01:10:01):
Yeah. Yeah, Witcher and The Wheel of Time both hit
me the same way, which is there's there's too much
for me to follow, which means there's too much for
me to care. Yeah, and I've watched all three seasons
of The Witcher.

Speaker 2 (01:10:19):
So far, honestly, honestly, like it's how I feel. Yeah,
you've you've hit the nail on the head, Like it's
even how I feel about things like Rings of Power.
Like I had no desire to watch it because I
was like, no, the stories that I care about from
Tolkien are the ones that have already been told. One
was told pretty well and the other one was terrible.

Speaker 1 (01:10:40):
I mean there were I only watched the first season
of Rings of Power again for similar reasons. Some of
the characters I did really enjoy in that series, though.

Speaker 2 (01:10:50):
That's good.

Speaker 1 (01:10:51):
Yeah, just overall. Yeah, it had a hard time grabbing me,
which is a shame. I wanted to like all of
I wanted. I want to like all of those things.
So it's a little sad to me, but I really.

Speaker 2 (01:11:06):
Wanted Season four, I want to say, comes out October thirtieth. Okay, sorry,
but you wanted to like you wanted to like Game of.

Speaker 1 (01:11:14):
Thrones, Yeah, and I didn't.

Speaker 2 (01:11:17):
Really, I can't blame you. I liked it when I
was reading it up to a point, and then I
was starting to suspect that it was the fantasy version
of The Walking Dead and getting into the misery literature field.
And the more I heard about the series, the more
I was convinced I was right.

Speaker 1 (01:11:35):
You were right. So when you said that we were
getting another Game of Thrones spin off, I was not excited. Yeah,
but then I watched the trailer, which is absolutely charming.

Speaker 2 (01:11:46):
Yeah, it's it's for a series that's called a Night
of the Seven Kingdoms. It is based off some novellas
that George R. Martin has written called The Tales of
Dunk and Egg. Dunk in this case is also known
as Duncan the Tall. He's a hedge knight and he
takes on a squire named Egg, who's actually prints Eggon Targerian,

(01:12:12):
and together they have adventures. And it definitely looks less
grim than Game of Thrones. It doesn't look nearly as
gritty or grim as that series was. It's still it's
not touchy feely, but it doesn't feel like, oh, this
is a series where someone's gonna get all their fingers
lopped off and then they're gonna laugh and drink alcohol.

Speaker 1 (01:12:35):
Yeah, yeah, it's Yeah, it just looks delightful. It's a big,
old kind knight and a kid who pair up and
and I mean kid. This the kid who plays Egg,
I guess is eleven years old. Dexter soul ansel I

(01:12:56):
just I know that there's gonna be dark stuff in there,
but I don't I want to like it very much.

Speaker 2 (01:13:08):
Yeah, I'm encouraged that it doesn't look nearly as super
dark and grim as Game of Thrones dead like Game
of Thrones. Just it felt like every chapter Martin was
looking for a way to go harder than he did
in the last chapter. And it also felt like it
was a story where anyone who was decent or had

(01:13:30):
decency in them was punished for it. And I get it,
like the Game of Thrones is meant to be a
brutal struggle, but it just was so discouraging and depressing
to me. But this one looks like it's got a
little bit more of an entertaining value to it for
me personally. Comes out January eighteenth on HBO.

Speaker 1 (01:13:52):
Yeah, we also got a trailer for a cartoon called
Primal Season three. I added this in because I'm like,
maybe there are people who listen to the show who
like this. I don't know much about Primal.

Speaker 2 (01:14:07):
It's from a creator named Gendy Tartakowski, and the first
two seasons follow I mean the third season two, but
the first two seasons follow a Neanderthal named Spear. The
first season I don't think has any dialogue in it
at all, oh interesting, and the second one has minimal

(01:14:30):
dialogue but Spear. It's set in a anachronistic primeval world
where Neanderthals and dinosaurs coexist, and there's also like metallurgy,
so like there's a lot of stuff that just doesn't
occupy the same actual historical space that's going on in

(01:14:51):
this series. It's got elements of science fiction and fantasy
and horror in it. I think in the first two seasons,
Spear in up befriending a tarannosaurce Rex, and they go
on adventures together. But in season three, h Spears Dead
Baby Spears Dead Spears a zombie and appears to be

(01:15:12):
really mad about it and is fighting his way potentially
to not be a zombie anymore.

Speaker 1 (01:15:19):
Watching the watching the trailer for it, it does sound
when you described it, it sounds interesting like I like
the idea of a cartoon with little to no dialogue.
It feels like it feels like something that would have
come out of MTV between the eighties and the two thousands.

Speaker 2 (01:15:36):
Well, it also reminds me, do you remember Samurai Jack?

Speaker 1 (01:15:40):
Yes, because Samurai I enjoyed what I watched.

Speaker 2 (01:15:43):
Yeah. Yeah, Samurai Jack was really minimalist with its dialogue
as well, very very artistically driven. This also looks like that,
except from a very kind of brutal and violent standpoint.
I mean, there's the trailer has lots and lots of
violence in it. It's mostly undead Neanderthal on skeleton violence

(01:16:05):
or on like zombie dinosaur violence. It comes out in
January twenty twenty six on Adult Swim. So yeah, I
have also not seen the first two seasons. Everything I
know about this is just based on me reading up
on it. But it does sound very interesting. I didn't
even know this was a thing either until you brought
it to the lineup.

Speaker 1 (01:16:27):
Yeah. I might check it out now, because yeah, I
didn't know it was a thing. I guess I missed
the first two seasons. Yeah, it's been a long it's
there's been a big break between the first two seasons.

Speaker 2 (01:16:38):
In this one.

Speaker 1 (01:16:40):
We also got a trailer this week for the Mighty nine.

Speaker 2 (01:16:47):
Yeah, this is the this is the critical Role campaign
that was the next big story after vax Machina, which
was the first big campaign. So this one's a different
of heroes known as the mighty nine an e I N.
Not not nine as in the number.

Speaker 1 (01:17:07):
Yeah, although there's plenty of jokes about that in the
in campaign too. I I have been looking forward to this.
I was late to critical role, mainly because I didn't
have the time for it. But I have. I've been
watching the legend of Vox Macna. I have watched most

(01:17:27):
of the actual play of The Mighty nine, you know,
well after the fact, and I've been listening to Hell's
Hell's Bells, Hell's Bells, and mighty nine is by far
my favorite. It's I don't know how to do. I mean,

(01:17:51):
it's it's D and D. You know, there's interesting magic.
Matt Mercer, the d M for it, came up with
a new kind of magic for it, dounomancy, which is
like a time magic, which is pretty cool.

Speaker 2 (01:18:04):
And it's set in his original fantasy universe. Yeah. Right,
I think that's what it's called.

Speaker 1 (01:18:12):
Yeah, I will say, I think just inherently the mighty nine,
not that Vox Macna is at all kid friendly. The
Mighty nine is less.

Speaker 2 (01:18:20):
So it does have my favorite character in it of
all time, Jester. Yes, how did you know?

Speaker 1 (01:18:27):
Because she's amazing. Jester is played by Laura Bailey, and
she's a little blue teefling who is a troublemaker.

Speaker 2 (01:18:37):
As a vaguely Eastern European accent.

Speaker 1 (01:18:40):
Yes, and she likes to draw inappropriate things on other things.

Speaker 2 (01:18:44):
I think my favorite are her when she's sending which
is why she's sending a mental telepathy messages to other people,
but there's a there's a word count limit as to
how long the messages can be twenty five words, I think,
and Laura Bailey like to ramble so much that there's
an ongoing joke in that season of Critical Role where

(01:19:08):
she either goes too long and her message gets cut
off so she doesn't get to send the whole thing,
or she's determined to hit exactly twenty five words and
she'll just fill up the rest of a message with
nonsense in order to do it.

Speaker 1 (01:19:23):
Yeah, she's done stuff like are you pooping?

Speaker 2 (01:19:25):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:19:26):
Uh da da da da dadda dada, donuts donuts yeah yeah.
This it's my favorite of the Critical Role campaign so far.
I haven't started. I've watched like the first fifteen minutes
of campaign four, which just started with Brenda Lee Mulligan.
I think it's absolutely delightful. I can't wait to watch it.

(01:19:47):
I'm very excited because along with the trailer, they released
a four minute video that Jonathan told me about where
they kind of explained about the series and how they're
going to tell the story in a different order from
the way they play, and then they talked about the
voice actors and it all seems very cool.

Speaker 2 (01:20:04):
Yeah. Some of the celebrity guests that they have playing
supporting roles this season include Lucy Lou, ali E Cravallo,
Ming naw Win, Anika Noni Rose. Which means we have
three Disney Princesses represented in this season.

Speaker 1 (01:20:19):
Okay, I know that one of them is Muana, one
is Mulan.

Speaker 2 (01:20:25):
One is Tiana. Okay, Tiana from Princess and the Frog. Uh.
There's also Raoul Kohlei, who I know from his days
of interacting with a group called fun House Funhouse. But
he also has been on like that that zombie series

(01:20:45):
that was on the CW years ago, and he was
in a lot of Mike Flanagan's stuff, like the Aye
Zombie that was the one, And he was also in
a bunch of Mike Flanagan stuff like the uh what
was the one Midnight Mass and the Edgar Allen Poe

(01:21:05):
one which House of ushers in both of those. Jonathan Frakes, Yeah,
Jonathan Frakes is also in it. Obviously, Jonathan Frakes was
Will Richer in Star Trek The Next Generation. Alan Cumming
an amazing actor, isn't it? Also country music singer Tim McGraw,

(01:21:27):
isn't it?

Speaker 1 (01:21:28):
You know? I mean, do what you want to do.
Tim McGraw's been doing acting. He's been in The Yellowstone
in eighteen eighty three.

Speaker 2 (01:21:37):
So yeah, yeah, no, no, no shade on Tim McGraw.
It's just when you see that name pop up, you're like, huh,
one of these things is not like the other.

Speaker 1 (01:21:47):
Yeah, I'm interested to see who he's playing. I don't
know if I quite picked it out.

Speaker 2 (01:21:54):
I think it was some sort of barred character because
I've seen a breakdown of what at least some of
these people are playing that some of the roles have
not been revealed, but in other cases they were. But
because I'm a casual fan and mostly I've experienced the
Mighty nine through like YouTube shorts where it's or compilations.

(01:22:15):
Usually it's like a compilation as because I have not
watched a full episode ever of critical role, no matter
which season you're talking about, I've watched my compilations and
things like that. You know, my knowledge of all the
different characters is pretty thin. Like, I know, I know
there's a character called the Gentleman, for example, but I

(01:22:39):
don't know. I don't have enough context to know anything
about that character. However, I will say like, I will
probably try and catch this. I wasn't. I didn't get
into Voxmachina. I tried to. It just wasn't for me.
But I'm hopeful that The Mighty nine will be more
my speed. And it comes out on November nineteenth on
Amazon Prime.

Speaker 1 (01:22:59):
Okay, gra plays Vandrin. Okay, I know who that is.
And Tiana plays Jester's mom, which I think is brilliant.
She'll be brilliant.

Speaker 2 (01:23:08):
Yeah, wasn't that a big Oh No, that was not
a big reveal. It was I think. I think that
was Vox macanel where there was a big mom reveal
and that was for Marisia's character.

Speaker 1 (01:23:23):
Oh yes, yes, Okay, I was like, oh no, did
I give a spoiler? I don't know for sure, but
I think you're right.

Speaker 2 (01:23:29):
No, No, no, you didn't. You didn't. I again, because I've
experienced these things for compilations, it can also be hard
for me to tell when I'm watching something from the
Vox Machina era, or from the mighty nine era, and
I'm not quick to pick up on it.

Speaker 1 (01:23:45):
It is interesting people liked the mighty nine so much
that they're still doing stuff. So they just had that
Ford and Jester wedding pop up in New York, so
they're they're doing one shot of four in Jester's wedding.
I really kind of like they've been doing like a
time quangle sort of a thing on their tour. It

(01:24:06):
seems like similar similar to what Dimension twenty did, where
like they all pick characters from any of the three
campaigns they've been in and they all get into a situation.
Oh yeah, yeah, those which is pretty fun.

Speaker 2 (01:24:21):
Yeah. Well, as long as it's always Jester, I'm happy.

Speaker 1 (01:24:25):
Yeah. The the Critical Role people will actually be at
Mombo Con this year and also be performing in Atlanta.
At that time, I did not get tickets, bummer, but
I'm tempted. If there are any left, I'm still tempted.
It was just like figuring out if I can.

Speaker 2 (01:24:48):
I would love to chat with them because I'm such
a big fan of their work outside of Critical Role. Like,
I like the Critical Role stuff I've seen, but like
I said, I've never watched a campaign or an episode,
let alone a campaign all the way through. So for me,
it's more like their voice acting work in various other

(01:25:09):
media that I am a huge fan of. So but
I wish them all the success in the world. I
love that a home game evolved to this point and
is its own phenomenon that to me is just super cool.

Speaker 1 (01:25:25):
It really is. Okay, we have two more things we
want to talk about. The first is that there was
a movie a few years ago called ParaNorman that is
getting a a.

Speaker 2 (01:25:38):
Brush up chiny yeahma remastered re release. Yeah, that's a yeah.
ParaNorman originally came out in twenty twelve. It's coming out
just for October twenty fifth through twenty eighth here in
the States, where it's a remastered three D version of
the original movie. Plus there's going to be a new

(01:26:00):
short film titled Para Norman The Thrifting, so kind of
like a you know, a continuation or a spin off
of the main story. If you're not familiar with ParaNorman.
It's about a kid named Norman who is able to
see and talk with ghosts, and he goes on kind
of an adventure to try and bring an ancient curse

(01:26:24):
to an end in his little sleepy town, and you know,
everyone thinks he's weird because of the whole ghost thing,
Like he's kind of judged by ghosts and humans alike,
and so it's all about him trying to navigate that well,
bringing this curse to an end. Cute movie. And the
trailer for the Uh, I mean, it's just a really

(01:26:45):
short trailer, but then I think it's a very short film.
But the short trailer for ParaNorman and The Thrifting is
also super cute.

Speaker 1 (01:26:53):
Yeah, it looks huge.

Speaker 2 (01:26:54):
I was.

Speaker 1 (01:26:54):
I've never seen the original, but it looks darling. I
like the art style a lot.

Speaker 2 (01:26:58):
I tell you, I mix it up all the time.
When someone mentions ParaNorman, I mix it up with franken Weeney.

Speaker 1 (01:27:05):
I could totally see that. There's one other one that
I mix it up with, and I can't remember what
it is. It's not Jimmy Neutron, but it might as
well be.

Speaker 2 (01:27:15):
I Meet the Robertsons with a bowler hat guy.

Speaker 1 (01:27:19):
And the t Rex.

Speaker 2 (01:27:22):
That's the best part of that movie that been in
that the t Rex, the t Rex and the bowler hat.
That's the best part of the movie. And that's the
only part you really need to watch, and you can
skip the rest of it, the.

Speaker 1 (01:27:32):
Only part I remember. And lastly, we got a trailer
for a Roald Dahl's story called The Twits.

Speaker 2 (01:27:39):
Yeah. So this is a loose adaptation of Roade Doll's
book The Twits. I think it takes a lot of
liberties and a lot of departures from the original novel.
Road Dahl, of course, is the author who also did
stuff like Matilda and Charlie and the Chocolate Factory and
lots of other story James and the Giant Peach, that

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kind of thing. So The Twits is about two terrible people,
Mister and Missus Twit, who run a terrible circus. I
think in this one it's an amusement park and are
just generally making everything around them terrible. And in this movie,
two young children are set to try and rid the

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town of the Terrible Twits. And that's kind of like
the basic high level premise. It comes out on October
seventeenth on Netflix. Why'd you think of the trailer?

Speaker 1 (01:28:35):
It's the kind of humor that I don't enjoy, but
I know kids would.

Speaker 2 (01:28:39):
Yeah, I watched and I thought, I know it's I know,
I recognized the beats, but it's not really for me either,
like the same sort of reaction. I didn't think it
was bad, but I don't even know if I would
have liked this when I was a kid, But it's
so hard to say because I'm old now, so who knows.

Speaker 1 (01:29:00):
I don't think I would have liked this if I
was a kid, but just not my kind of humor.
But there there was one bit that I almost laughed at,
so that's something.

Speaker 2 (01:29:12):
Yeah, Ariel almost laughed at it. There's your there's your
pull quote.

Speaker 1 (01:29:16):
I almost almost laughed at the Diorama joke.

Speaker 2 (01:29:19):
Yeah, yeah, which I think if you hear the Diorama joke,
your brain is probably already going to what that joke is.

Speaker 1 (01:29:28):
Yeah, yep, But I didn't laugh. That's the thing, like,
I didn't Yeah, could up, but could up, but didn't. Uh.
And that's.

Speaker 2 (01:29:43):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:29:44):
I guess that's a moral in life. No, not at all.

Speaker 2 (01:29:48):
Yeah, not really, No, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:29:55):
I've lost my train of thought.

Speaker 2 (01:29:56):
I'm so sorry. I guess what we could say is
that we've come to the end of our episode, because
that was the last bit in our lineup. It was
funny because like again, this was one of those weeks
where it was it was getting hard to find stuff
that could fit into the lineup at all, Like my
Horror Hutch only has two films in it. But then

(01:30:18):
we're almost at Halloween, so all the spooky trailers and
stuff have already come out, like over the last two months.
So no big surprise.

Speaker 1 (01:30:28):
Yeah yeah, yeah, I thought it was going to be
a short episode too, and it really wasn't, although some
of that was just me losing my mind.

Speaker 2 (01:30:37):
Well, and we talked. We talked a lot about music
and other stuff and Michael Sheen, that's true. Yeah, we
did kind of go We did turn it into a
fan cast for a while.

Speaker 1 (01:30:48):
Yeah. Yeah, So thank you for listening. If you've made
it through to the end, you know, if you want
to reach out to us, we'd love to hear from you. Jonathan.
How how can people reach out?

Speaker 2 (01:31:01):
If you're Michael Sheen, just let Ariel know and I'll
talk to you right well. And if you're not Michael Sheen,
good luck.

Speaker 1 (01:31:09):
If you're not Michael Sheen, you can still reach out
to us. Just do it through the normal standard way,
which is on social media. We are on large Nurdron
Collider on Facebook, threads, and Instagram. That's also our discord handle.
Notes will be posted on our website at www dot
large nurdron Collider dot com, and you can also send
us a long form email at large Neurdron Pod at

(01:31:33):
gmail dot com. We really appreciate you. Thank you for
being a part of our geeky family. And until next time,
I am Ariel, I need a nap cast in.

Speaker 2 (01:31:44):
And I am Jonathan end of line Strickland. The Large
Nerdron Collider was created by Ariel Caston and produced, edited, published, deleted, undeleted,
published again, sat by Jonathan Strickland. Music by Kevin McLeod

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