LNC Takes a Dip with the Creature From the Black Lagoon

We talk favorite classic Universal monsters, the stuff we've been watching, the concept of hygge, and tons of other stuff in this jam packed episode!

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:09):
Hey, everybody, Welcome to the larger nor Dron Collider podcast,
the podcast that's all about the geeky things happening in
the world around us and how very excited we are
about them. I'm Aerial cast in and Whickney is always
is the super crazy awesome Jonathan Strickland.

Speaker 2 (00:25):
I've got pac Man fever.

Speaker 1 (00:27):
Oh man, I don't know if there's a cure for that.

Speaker 2 (00:30):
No, I mean it's I have I don't have a
ghost of a chance. I guess.

Speaker 1 (00:37):
I don't know. Well, if you watch the uh remember
name the little anthology series about video games that was
done by the Love Death and Robots people, that pac
Man short is creepy.

Speaker 2 (00:50):
Yeah, yeah, you mentioned that that one was pretty yeah
like like out there. Uh yeah. The reason I said
that is because and we'll chat about little bit in
this episode, though not a whole lot is the There
were a bunch of video game related stuffs that happened
since our last recording, Like the Switch To came out,
so that was big. Summer Gamefest was a thing. Xbox

(01:16):
did its its Xbox like exhibition thing as well, so
lots of video game news out there. We'll talk a
little bit about video games we usually like to, you know,
include things like that since it is geeky. But a
lot of other geeky news broke too, so I had

(01:37):
to make an executive decision and I cut back on
it a little bit.

Speaker 1 (01:40):
That's totally fine. I'm gonna there was so much that
was announced in those video games anyhow that I'm still
trying to catch up on all the trailers for them.

Speaker 2 (01:49):
To say same Like, I watched Live for a while,
but I there was something else that came up where
I could not. I couldn't stay glued for like the
whole two plus hours or whatever it was, so I
saw bits and pieces plus like, gotta admit. There are
times where a developer will get up there and start

(02:10):
talking about a game and I'm sure that they worked
very hard on the game. I'm sure the game is
great for the people who love it, but it will
be a game that have no interest in and then
I'm just like, this is like being called into a
work meeting where you don't really have any stake in
what's going on, and you're like, this could have been
an email like that if it gives off that energy.

Speaker 1 (02:31):
Yeah. I pulled an article from Ing that said everything announced,
but it is not everything announced because one of the
games that I'm very excited about, I'm pretty sure is
not on this article.

Speaker 2 (02:41):
So they lie.

Speaker 1 (02:43):
I'll try to find something. Well, when we get there,
I'll try to find something more extensive.

Speaker 2 (02:49):
But yeah, part of it is a little complicated because
while we were leading up to this episode, I know,
vox Media was on the verge of workers going on strike,
the writers at Vox Media Publications going on strike, and
the Verge is one of those properties that's under vox Media.

(03:13):
Polygon used to be, but it actually got sold earlier
this year, and I'm sure that affected things too. From
what I understand, as of the time we're recording this episode,
the sides have reached at least a tentative agreement.

Speaker 1 (03:30):
Yeah, that's that is good to hear. So let's, I guess,
get into our normal format and stop talking about things
that we're not at yet.

Speaker 2 (03:43):
Okay, sure, Well let me ask you a question then, Okay,
all right, here's our question. So we've seen several of
the classic universal monsters refreshed in recent years, from Dracula,
like in the Last Voyage of the Demeter or Aosphoratu.
You could are you is a refresh on Dracula to Frankenstein.

(04:04):
We've got the upcoming Frankenstein from Pierre model Toro, or
the wolf Man or the Invisible Man. But which of
these classic monsters which you want to see refreshed most,
because these are ones that have not really received the
refresh treatment. And your choices are Doctor Jekyl's slash mister Hyde.

(04:24):
And I'm not counting the Russell Crowe character from the
Tom Cruise Mummy movie, the Hunchback of Notre Dame, the
Phantom of the Opera, or the Creature from the Black Lagoon.

Speaker 1 (04:38):
Okay, so you you didn't mean the Billy Zane the Phantom.

Speaker 2 (04:42):
No, no, no, Phantom of the Opera. Yeah, classic universal monster,
Billy z Ay I mean, I mean not the the
not the character, the actor Billy.

Speaker 1 (04:53):
Zay I mean anyhow. Uh So my answer is a
little bit cheating, of course, the Creature from the Black Lagoon,
because that's you know, kind of like King Hoong. That's
a people are You're kind of the last of your
kind of people are going into your home and threatening you,

(05:13):
and so what are you gonna do? But you know
that that character does show, especially in like some of
the later like empathy and understanding and you know all that.
So I feel like that's a more sympathetic character. However,
it's also kind of a cheat answer because we did
learn like in earlier this month. Actually, there's an article

(05:38):
on the Hollywood News on June tenth that James Wand
is working on a Black Lagoon reynake.

Speaker 2 (05:45):
So yeah, to be fair, universal Is has at some
point had productions for almost all of these in some
form of development. In some cases it withered on the
vine because it was supposed to be part of the
Dark Universe, you know, connected cinemat universe, but that obviously

(06:08):
didn't really take off because The Mummy, I don't know
if you know, this didn't do so well and got
a lot of critical handing.

Speaker 1 (06:15):
But you're not you're not talking You're not talking about
You're talking about the Tom Cruise, the Mummy.

Speaker 2 (06:20):
Tom Cruise Mummy, not the Brendan.

Speaker 1 (06:22):
Frasermy, which is amazing.

Speaker 2 (06:25):
Yeah, that's like thirty years old. I'm talking about the
one that came out a decade ago.

Speaker 1 (06:29):
It's like five years old.

Speaker 2 (06:33):
Okay, well whatever, Anyway, I agree with you. I think
Creature from the Black up Lagoon would be my choice.
I also think it's an easier thing to adapt for
the same reasons you were mentioning, Like if you think
of the Phantom of the Opera or the Hunchback of
Notre Dame, the things that make those characters quote unquote
monstrous are that they're differently abled. So that's hard to

(06:58):
do in a way that doesn't just come across as ablest.

Speaker 1 (07:01):
Yeah, I was, I was gonna say the same thing, like,
neither of those should really, Well, the Phantom of the
Opera should be a monster just because while while he
has had issues, like while he has definitely been mistreated,
you know, he kind of lets it turn turn him

(07:24):
creepy and evil.

Speaker 2 (07:26):
Well, yeah, you could. You could argue that his journey
into evility was one that was not entirely his fault,
that this is a lot of nurture versus nature, and therefore,
you know, but then you could argue, well, that just
gives you a deeper understanding as to his motivations, and

(07:47):
that you're supposed to be somewhat sympathetic but ultimately not
be on his side because he still wants to do
monstrous things. I think there are ways to handle it.
Properly where it doesn't just come across as uh, this
character is evil because they are also ugly, Like that's
that's the way it often has been presented, and that

(08:08):
that's the part that doesn't work. So there are ways
to do it where it does work. Same with Hunchback. Arguably,
if you do it the right way, I think also
you would need to do it where it was set
in the appropriate time period.

Speaker 1 (08:20):
Yeah. Yeah, The Hunchback of Notre Dame is just one
where I'm like, that's that's not a monster at all
in my mind, and I hate that it was ever
plumped into that. I will say, like, I guess also
Gilman did kind of already have a reboot, but it
wasn't a part of Universal. It was like the Shape
of Water is vaguely, vaguely inspired by from the Black Lagoon,

(08:45):
which I did like Shape of Water quite a bit,
But I really like.

Speaker 2 (08:50):
Was that Who was it that did that? Did that one? Ye? Okay,
I thought it was Gimble. The problem is that my
brain mixes up titles so much, and I was like,
I'm pretty sure that's the Gheramo del Toro one. I
never saw it. I heard it was great. I know
that I should watch it. I just haven't seen it.
I was like, I think that's the Gheramo del Toro
one and not the m Night shayamma On one where

(09:12):
it was the swimming pool. Yeah, I can't remember the
name of what that was it was.

Speaker 1 (09:16):
It was not m Night shayama On at all. Yeah,
I liked it. I didn't watch it until much later.
Like I didn't go to see Shape of Water in
the theater. I saw Pan's Labyrinth in the water, and
I saw hell Boy. Oh my gosh. No, I saw
it in the theater, and I also saw Hellboy in
the theater, but I didn't see Shape of Water in
the theater.

Speaker 2 (09:32):
So that goes staring into the water and there before
me played out the entirety of Band's Labyrinth.

Speaker 1 (09:37):
I'm a mermaid and my brain just lives there. But
I also like Dug Jones, so I'm a little bit
who played the creature in the Shape of Water.

Speaker 2 (09:46):
So also also Blade Pan and Pan's Labyrinth as well
as as well as the was it the was it
the pale Man that's the character's name, the one that
had the eyes and the palms of its hands. Yeah,
super creepy. One. Yeah, also also was in hocus Pocus.

Speaker 1 (10:04):
Was also in Hell Boy. Uh, yep, he was. He
wasn't the voice actor for Abe Sapien, but he was
the physical actor for that.

Speaker 2 (10:14):
Yeah, the body actor.

Speaker 1 (10:15):
I'm sure. I'm so glad that he gets more and
more opportunities to be the full actor for things because
he's so flip and talented.

Speaker 2 (10:23):
He is. He's i mean, he's he's got incredible uh
ability to do space work and body work and that
kind of stuff, like the sort of things that people
train in when they're they're learning their craft and theater.
But you don't really hear like movie actors talk about
it very much, but you can tell that he's like

(10:43):
a master at that stuff.

Speaker 1 (10:45):
Yeah. But also, like so he played saru uh the
like the second in command in Star Trek Discovery, full character, right,
not just providing a.

Speaker 2 (10:57):
Month ster, not just not just a body in a suit.

Speaker 1 (11:00):
Yeah, And just his emotional depth and range is also
just stunning. I love watching that person perform, so.

Speaker 2 (11:08):
Well, that's that's great. I'm glad that we both have
the same answer for this one, you know, and maybe
we'll end up seeing it. It's hard to say, because
like the universal stuff, so much of it does end
up kind of being in limbo because, like I said,
there's supposed to be an Invisible Woman project. I think

(11:28):
Elizabeth Banks is attached to that.

Speaker 1 (11:30):
Okay, I thought there was already an Invisible Woman project
that had the actress from The Handmaid's Tale in it.

Speaker 2 (11:40):
Might be, it might be the it's changed since the
last time I looked at it. It's just there's so
much and it's hard to keep track of all, especially
since there was a bunch of stuff that was under
the Dark Universe umbrella that obviously got canceled once that
became a non starter.

Speaker 1 (11:55):
I mean, I do feel like of all the all
the directors, even though I haven't watched a lot of
like James Wand's stuff, where I to look at his
catalog of works and it includes Aquaman and then things
like The Conjuring and Saw and Insidious, Like right, there
is the mix between water Lover and horror. So it

(12:18):
feels like a good fit.

Speaker 2 (12:20):
Yeah, yeah, we'll keep our eyes out. Well, while we
talk about the things that we're hoping to see in
the future, let's talk a little bit about what we've
seen over the past week. So Ariel what have you
been checking out since our last recording?

Speaker 1 (12:35):
So I'm keeping up with murder Bot and the episodes
are wonderful and woefully too short. They're all like under
thirty minutes. Maybe a couple grays thirty minutes, but it's
just delightful. It's you know, it's it's not all happy,
but it's all fun. I'm watching ted Lasso, which is

(12:55):
the same way. It's it's uplifting, which I have found
absolutely refreshing. I watched the first episode of cloud word Ho,
which is the new actual play on to mention twenty.
I tried watching the second episode, which came out this week,
but I tried watching it yesterday, and I don't know
if any of the rest of you noticed, but I

(13:16):
certainly did that there was just huge tech outages everywhere.
Like I was trying to edit an audition and I
couldn't because my editing software, which connects is like a
software as a service product, was not working, would not
let me log in thing, and like I just couldn't
get cloud word Hoe to run. And I felt like
I was going crazy because I was like, I can't

(13:37):
get anything to work. But that's fun. That's been fun.
It's a steampunk airship adventure kind of a thing, and
it's with the normal crew of tabletoppers that they use,
like the main cast, so Lou Wilson, Emily ax Ford,
Brian Murphy exactly, I'm a Ali Beardsley and Chivon Topson.

(14:01):
So but that's been a lot of fun. I tried
watching the Tonies because I have Paramount Plus, but I
apparently don't have a high enough tear of Paramount plus,
which means I don't have showtime.

Speaker 2 (14:17):
So I couldn't have Paramount plus plus.

Speaker 1 (14:19):
I don't have it plus plus, so I couldn't watch
it live. So I was relegated to like refreshing my
phone every five minutes to see if they had announced
any other winners. Because you know, as I've talked about
on the show ad nauseum my childhood Acquaintances show was
up for a bunch of Tonies. They didn't win a
single one, and I think it's a crying shame. But

(14:40):
also like when you start watching people get announced and
you're like, oh, that one and it won again. Okay,
that's what's gonna run away with it. We'll talk more
about who did win later.

Speaker 2 (14:51):
I was about to say, don't spoil it. You've got
three seconds or less where you're going to talk about it.

Speaker 1 (14:55):
Yeah, I'm cheating by talking a little.

Speaker 2 (14:57):
Bit about it now.

Speaker 1 (14:58):
But I have started going back and watching some of
the performances and they were they've been fun.

Speaker 2 (15:04):
So that's cool. I didn't catch any of it. I
heard that Cynthia Rivo did a good job as the host.
I saw, you know, a little bit of the different
shows that took home awards. There were you know, depending
on who you were, like, there were different camps that

(15:26):
were like really gung host, especially for best Actress, Like
there were some Best Actress in a musical in particular.
There were some gung ho camps and clearly not everyone
can win, and so one side was really happy and
another side was less happy. But we'll talk about that later.
For me, I watched Captain America Brave New World Finally, whoo.

(15:50):
I have to agree with things that Ariel has said
in the past. I think the acting was was really
good across the board. I thought the story was not
that great to me, and felt like it was an
Incredible Hulk movie without an Incredible Hulk, like so many
references to the Incredible Hulk film, which was the second

(16:12):
one in the MCU timeline, like so many references to
it and hardly any references to to Sam Slash, Captain
America slash you know, former Falcon. There's a little bit,
but not a lot, And that was wild to me.

(16:34):
I was not, like, I think it's mid. It's not bad,
but it is mid. I think it is a little
better than what some people said, Like, I saw a
lot of reviews that said it was like an extra
long episode of Falcon and the Winter Soldier, and I
felt that that's unfair. Yeah, but not by a whole lot. Like,

(16:56):
it's still a middling MCU movie. It's certainly not in
the top for Captain America. For me, that's still Winter Soldier.
I still think that's the best Captain America. This is
one of the best MCU movies, full stop, at least
in my opinion. Also watched a little bit more of
Rick and Morning season seven. I can only watch like
an episode every couple of days because it's just so nihilistic.

(17:18):
It's is so dark. I didn't watch. I mean, no,
that's a spoiler. I won't say it. Even though the
season seven spin out Forever and they're doing season eight now.
I watched most of a Rested Alien episode. I'm still
in season one on that show because it's hard to
get through. So again, I like Alan Tudick's performance. I

(17:42):
just find a lot of the situations to be so
awkward that I can't sit and watch them all in
one go. I also find it weird, how like I
can't quite get my finger on the pulse of the
tone of the show because other not every other character,

(18:03):
but some other characters are just cartoonishly cranked up to eleven. Yeah,
the sheriff, the sheriff in particular, and then like the
best friend of the medical assistant. Those two characters are
like they're cranked up until the colors are bleeding through.
That's so saturated.

Speaker 1 (18:22):
Drives me crazy. I mean, it must be fun to do,
it must be a fun project to work on, but
watching it, it drives me crazy because I just I
can't I can't immerse myself in the world.

Speaker 2 (18:35):
Yeah, because they don't feel like real people, right, They're
they're too extreme to be real people. And the mayor
is almost at that level, but I feel is slightly
more grounded than either the sheriff or that best friend character,
the bartender character, the mayor character, I feel is a
little more grounded, and the kid is probably on that

(18:56):
same the mayor's kid, it's probably on that same level.
And then some other folks are like, oh no, this
feels like a real person. Like the medical assistant and
her dad both mostly feel like real people, so it's
very jarring to have. Like, you know, if you watch
Always Sonny, the main all the bad characters and Always

(19:16):
Sonny are cartoonishly bad, and then most other characters are
kind of straight straight men, like normal straightment to play
off of. Right, this doesn't feel like that. This just
feels like it feels like you got like three different
RPGs with similar but slightly different systems, and you're trying
to mess them all together in play one game and

(19:39):
then one other thing. I want to mention. I haven't
watched it yet, but I have noticed that Deep Cover,
which is that thriller comedy where the improv comedians are
approached to become undercover agents on behalf of law enforcement.
It is now available on Prime Video, so I plan
on checking that out this weekend. I have time.

Speaker 1 (20:01):
Yeah, I'm I'm interested in that as well. It's got
Bryce Dallas Howard y'all, I'm so sorry Orlando Bloom, Sean Bond,
Sean Bean, and Nick Muhammad in it. So yeah, makes
Shane It's yeah, that's that one. It's that.

Speaker 2 (20:18):
Yeah. That's a pretty pretty stacked cast list. So that's
it for me. That's what I've been watching and what
I hope to watch soon.

Speaker 1 (20:27):
That's good.

Speaker 2 (20:28):
I've I.

Speaker 1 (20:30):
Have friends who are like, if you like sci fi
and Goofy, you watch Ricky Morty is such a gross cartoon.
I can't.

Speaker 2 (20:36):
I don't mind the grossnest I it's for me, it's
the philosophical nihilism that is just draining. I can't. I
mentioned this last week I think where I said one
of the issues I have is that you've got a
character who is so bleak and in the show, he's
never wrong. So like it's almost like a straw man

(20:57):
argument where you know, you're putting forth something as if
it's what the other person's arguing and it's not. That's
what this feels like. It feels like a straw man
argument for you know, you create a character who is
never wrong, and you imbue him with this nihilistic perspective
and within the fiction of the show. It's impossible to

(21:20):
say that he's he's got the wrong take because he's
never wrong, and it just makes me depressed.

Speaker 1 (21:27):
Yeah yeah, yeah, Well let's let's move on to less
depressing things, because who can be depressed in the theater?

Speaker 2 (21:38):
Now?

Speaker 1 (21:39):
Some Broadway shows are very depressing.

Speaker 2 (21:41):
I was gonna say, who can be depressed when you
can only spend thirty seconds or less talking about it?

Speaker 1 (21:46):
I mean, challenge accepted. So, as we mentioned the Tony's happened,
I didn't get to watch it live, but you know
I did follow who won. There were several geeky shows
that did win. Picture of Dorian Gray, which we consider geeky,
won a bunch of awards. The musical that ran away
with the most awards was Maybe Happy Ending, which stars

(22:11):
Darren Chris and Helen Sheen and there are two helperbots
who discover each other and fall in love. It's an
interesting show. It started off it takes place in Korea,
which is where the show originated. It's a one act show,
but it's still like an hour and a half. But
I've watched some songs from it. It's lovely. The visual

(22:31):
design is really great and Darren Chris is a great actor.
I actually have watched him on Broadway. He was in
the production of American Buffalo with Sam Rockwell and Laurence Fishburn.
I watched, so they won. Like I said, my friend's
musical Dead Outlaw didn't win, but they sure rocked their
performance and watching their If you are on the social

(22:54):
media's go check out Dead Outlaw, the musical's social media
presence because it is hilarious. That's it.

Speaker 2 (23:01):
Well, Spaceballs, the nineteen eighty seven film from mel Brooks
that spoofed the Star Wars franchise, is getting a sequel.
Amazon MGM plans to debut the film in twenty twenty seven,
forty years after the original came out. Bill Pullman, Daphne Zeniga,
and Rick Moranis are all expected to return. Josh Gadd
co wrote the script and will also be in the film,

(23:24):
as possibly will. Bill Pullman's son Louis Pullman, who was
recently in Thunderbolts and mel Brooks, will once again be
back as Yogurt.

Speaker 1 (23:34):
Was Lewis Pullman the Century.

Speaker 2 (23:38):
Yeah, I didn't know that.

Speaker 1 (23:39):
Ah yeah, I wonder if that. I wonder if it's
gonna hold up. I I but I'm so excited about
Rick moranis doing stuff again. Ah, okay too, speaking of
maybe excited. So we've talked. We haven't talked about this
in a while because there just hasn't been too much
to talk about. Back in July twenty twenty four, almost
a year ago ago, video game the video game Voice

(24:03):
Actors went union went on strength interactive media contract folk
like largely over AI use in video games, and they
have finally a year later, almost reached a tentative agreement.
So there's a tentative agreement. It still needs to be
voted on and ratified, so the strike is not over yet,

(24:23):
but hopefully it will be soon. Because they were this
was David fighting goliath. It felt like they were facing
a lot of really big video game developers just for
the right to be able to be the owners of
their own voice and performance. So here's hoping that they
come to good and equitable agreements and can finally get

(24:46):
back to work, because I'm sure they all.

Speaker 2 (24:47):
Really want to absolutely well. We have some more updates
on casting for the upcoming Harry Potter series on HBO
Max joining John Lithgow will be Who's going to be
Dumbledore is Catherine the It crowd, Parkinson who will be
Molly Weasley, And I have to confess I don't recognize
other names, like there's locks Pratt and honestly, that could

(25:10):
either be an actor or a character I wouldn't know,
or Johnny Flynn, Leo Early Cna, Musa Bell Powley or
Daniel Rigby. I don't recognize any of those names. But
I'm also uncultured swine, so take it as you will.

Speaker 1 (25:24):
I have no Saguaray from that to my story, which
is Sean Levy is working on a Star Wars Starfighter
movie and we finally got some casting for it. Ryan
Gosling and Mia Goth will be facing off. It's supposed to,
I think, come out in twenty twenty seven. The interesting

(25:45):
thing about this is it takes place like five years
after the events of Rise of Skywalker. It's not a prequel,
it's not a sequel, and it's a new adventure and
it's set in a period of time that hasn't been explored,
which is all very exciting. Thank you Sean Levy for
giving us a new story in the world that's exciting.

Speaker 2 (26:06):
On April tenth, twenty twenty six, Sarah Michelle Geller and
Elijah Wood will join Samora Weaving for a game of
hide and seek and Ready or Not, Here I Come.
This is the sequel to the twenty nineteen horror comedy.
It's also gonna start Nestor Carbonell, Catherine Newton, and Kevin Durand,
among others. And I'm not sure if this will be
a die hard situation in which Samara's character once again

(26:28):
finds herself being hunted by a demented family. We'll just
have to wait and find out.

Speaker 1 (26:33):
If you are into the popcorn bucket game for movies
that come out, well, make a little bit more space
than usual because the Galactus Head popcorn bucket is giant.
It's seventeen point five inches tall and twenty inches wide,
and it's like eighty bucks. I still don't think it's
quite as ridiculous as the Warhammer one for the Knights

(26:53):
of Roharim, but it's up there.

Speaker 2 (26:57):
If you're like me, you go through life pretending the
Blues Brothers two thousand movie doesn't exist, and there never
was a follow up to the original Bonker's film from
nineteen eighty, but soon a graphic novel will attempt to
tell a fitting follow up to The Blues Brother's Shenanigans,
with the story following an ordained Elwood Blues searching for
his brother Juliet Jake, who has apparently escaped prison against

(27:21):
his will. I'll miss the music, but I'm on board
for this.

Speaker 1 (27:25):
Jonathan tells me that Incredibles three Lands landed a director,
and that it's not the same director as one and two.
It is not Brad Bird. It is Peter Soone, who
did Elemental in The Good Dinosaur, neither of which I've watched,
one of which I've heard is good, one of which
i've heard is real bad. So I don't well. At
first of all, I don't think incredible stream needs to happen,

(27:47):
but I am more up in the air about it
than I was before.

Speaker 2 (27:50):
On miss names. Yeah, Brad Bird's still writing and producing,
so there's that. At least the script will be brad Bird's,
but he will not be directing. Yeah. I have seen
both Elemental and The Good Dinosaur.

Speaker 1 (28:07):
Yep, was the direction the issue?

Speaker 2 (28:10):
I mean, it's hard to say. I was so the
Good Dinosaur. I found bland beyond description, like it like
it washed over me and nothing stuck. Uh. It wasn't bad.
It just wasn't anything special. It was such a far
cry from other Pixar films that were that connected to

(28:33):
me emotionally on a much deeper level, and it just
didn't do that that It was kind of it was.
It was a wake up call. Really. It was like, oh,
Pixar is not perfect, They're not infallible. They can put
out stuff that doesn't and reportedly there was a lot
of like issues with production behind the scenes, like I

(28:54):
think The Good Dinosaur ended up changing directions dramatically through
the process. But Elemental was fine. I think it's a
middle tier Pixar film for me. The biggest problem with
Elemental was the marketing because it didn't really indicate the
Elemental largely was about the immigrant experience. In many parts,

(29:19):
it didn't seem to indicate that to me at all,
and yet that's a large part of what the movie
was about. I've seen some criticisms saying that Elementals issues
are that it was trying to do too much, like
it's had too many different issues it was tackling at
the same time because the immigrant experience was just one
of them, and I kind of agree with that. I

(29:40):
think it wasn't very focused, which you could argue as
a director issue. But I still haven't seen Incredibles too.
The Incredibles, for me, is one of those movies that
I just love. Yeah, so, yeah, I haven't seen it yet.

Speaker 1 (29:59):
Like Jurassicar, there didn't need to be a second I
didn't watch the did I watch I think I did
watch the second one, but I don't remember a lot
about it. I get it confused with Meet the Robinsons.

Speaker 2 (30:09):
So have a big head and little arms. Yeah, it's
my favorite. That's the only thing I remember from that movie.
That movie that again made no impression on me, But
the dinosaur wearing the top the bowler was my favorite part.
Was Well, let's talk about a couple of things. We

(30:32):
only have a couple of entries this week for stuff
that doesn't really fit our show, and arguably you could
say they both do fit.

Speaker 1 (30:39):
Yeah, that would be my argument the first of But
I you know, I I can't say that I know
that the first one would fit, the first one in
our lineup would fit the show because I have never
read Animal Farm.

Speaker 2 (30:52):
Well I have. Animal Farm is a book by George Orwell.
It's kind of a book that is meant to show
the downfall of the pathway of communism, of how how
communism was meant to be this idealistic system that would

(31:17):
ensure equity among all of the people of Russia. But
ultimately what it really did was it created an oligarchy
of a small number of people who held enormous amounts
of power, and everybody else was just subject to their whims.
Animal Farm tells that but in the setting of a
farm house, like an actual farm, with the pigs playing

(31:40):
the part of the leaders of the revolution. And it's
not strict, it's not really it's not a comedy at all.
It's not a comedy. But the we just got a
like a minute long excerpt of a new animated adaptation. Now,

(32:02):
there was an animated adaptation in the nineteen fifties, and
there was a live action adaptation with creatures created by
the Jim Henson Creature Shop in like twenty nineteen or
something like that. But this is a this is a
newly animated version. And Seth Rogan voices one of the characters,

(32:24):
Napoleon the pig. So the excerpt is showing Napoleon talking
to a young piglet named Lucky that and trying to
kind of indoctrinate him into the the Animal Farm version
of communism.

Speaker 1 (32:39):
But he's being mean to another piglet, and I just
want to hug that other piglet. He just wants to
be loved. I relate to that.

Speaker 2 (32:45):
So it's the other piglet's his actual son, Oh no,
and he's he's ignoring him in order to indoctrinate this
other piglet and treat him like a son, which is
not from the novel. It's just it's done as a
gag in this version. So Andy Serkis is the director

(33:09):
of this version of Animal Farm. You've got a lot
of other famous celebrities who are providing voices, people like
a immon Vellani, Kathleen Turner, Woody Harrelson, Steve Bussemi, Glenn Close,
Kieran Coulkin, Jim Parsons. Like there's a ton I read
a review from Variety which was not very encouraging. The

(33:34):
Variety review essentially said that they inserted a lot of
sophomoric humor, like a lot of fart jokes, essentially in
order to make it like funny and entertaining, and in
the process the messaging kind of gets a little lost,
which is unfortunate because I think the book Animal Farm

(33:58):
is quite good, but the movie appears to be a
little it seems to fall a little short. But anyway,
they they did a premiere on June ninth at the
ANC International Animation Film Festival, So I don't know if
there's any specific plan for widespread distribution at this point.

(34:20):
I tried to look it up, but I couldn't find anything.

Speaker 1 (34:23):
Gotcha. The other thing that we have to talk about
in the maybe doesn't fit but totally does fit is
that in every every aspect is that Robert Eggers might
be doing an adaptation of a Christmas Carol.

Speaker 2 (34:40):
Wolf, you know, were Wolf without the extra e.

Speaker 1 (34:43):
Or and the the oha is a u.

Speaker 2 (34:46):
Oh is it? Yeah? I just saw I just saw
it as w E R W O l F. But uh,
I'll say this, Uh, if I were to pick a
director to do a new adaptation of a Christmas Carol,
I sure would find the guy who did The Witch
and Nosferatu and wear Wolf and say, hey, how about
you give it a shot?

Speaker 1 (35:06):
I mean it could be pretty creepy. It's originally a creepy.

Speaker 2 (35:10):
Story, sure, I mean, you know, scary ghost stories like
you're supposed to tell him a Christmas according to the song.
So of what not quite, but speculation has Willem Dafoe
as a contender for Ebenezer Scrooge, though no one has
actually said this. That's just that's just speculation based upon

(35:33):
the fact that Dafoe has worked with Eggers in the past.

Speaker 1 (35:35):
Also, I think would make a good Scrooge.

Speaker 2 (35:39):
Possibly, I'd like to see his take.

Speaker 1 (35:43):
Yeah, yeah, even if it's just an audition, because I
also like I I could, I could picture him doing
a good Scrooge. But also, I like casting news, and
this is not just a selfish thing. It is a
an exhaustion and media thing. I would like to see
new actors cast in some of these lead roles, but
I get that they don't necessarily pull in as much

(36:05):
of a.

Speaker 2 (36:05):
Crowd, So yeah, same. Like, the danger always is that
an actor is going to carry the baggage of their
past performances with them, or if they are, if they're
the kind of actor that people associate as being more
of a movie star and less of an actor, where
they're essentially playing themselves in whatever part they're in, or

(36:28):
or their range just doesn't seem to be that broad
like I think of I think of actors like Jack Nicholson,
who has stepped outside of that quite a few times
but often falls into a pretty pretty uh narrow border
of a performance. Or Dennis Hopper is another one. I
would argue, like, you know, but they're that doesn't mean

(36:54):
that they're incapable of acting outside of that, just means
that they often get cast in the same type of
roles and you eventually just established, you establish a thought,
you you associate a specific kind of performance with that actor,
and so when they get cast in something outside of that,
you're like, well that doesn't make sense.

Speaker 1 (37:14):
Yeah, yeah, for sure. That is all for our stuff
that we put into stuff that doesn't fit just to
fill it out a bit.

Speaker 2 (37:23):
Well, I mean we could have I could have just
put them in our regular lineup, but it was to
me those were borderline. But to talk more about stuff
that it's actually in our lineup, first up, we do
want to talk about video games a little bit. So, yeah,
the switch too came out. Do you listen to the

(37:44):
Besties podcast, Aeriel?

Speaker 1 (37:46):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (37:47):
Okay, so that's got Griffin McElroy and Justin McElroy as
well as Russ Frushdick, and Christopher Thomas Plant as the
four hosts. Plant wasn't in this one, but they talked
a bit about the switch To in their most recent episode,
and I found myself agreeing with Justin quite a bit.

(38:10):
His argument is that it's hard to find a justification
to purchase a switch To right now, simply because it's
not different enough and doesn't have enough exclusive titles to
really make sense as a purchase.

Speaker 1 (38:26):
Yeah. Yeah, I tend to agree with Justin a lot.
He's got He seems to have a very good head
on his shoulders.

Speaker 2 (38:32):
I don't know the person, but yeah, but that was
one thing was switch To comes out, so that was
big news. But also we had the Summer Game Fest.

Speaker 1 (38:43):
Yeah, and again I'm trying to find all of the
list of the games that were released because I haven't
watched them all, but there are a whole bunch of stuff.
There was like a new Resident Evil, which I've never
played any of the Resident Evil games, but the trailer
looked pretty good.

Speaker 2 (39:03):
Yeah, that's Resident Evil Requiem. It is the ninth title,
like a ninth official installation in the series, and that
comes out February twenty seventh, twenty twenty six on Xbox,
PS five and PC.

Speaker 1 (39:21):
Yeah, and then like Outer Worlds two, which is another
game that I've never played but looked pretty I'd like
to do. There were two games that really stuck out
to me. Okay, maybe three. The Expanse RPG is.

Speaker 2 (39:36):
Not one of the ones they announced, is it. I
didn't see it, but that doesn't mean anything.

Speaker 1 (39:40):
Okay, there's an Expanse RPG that looks very pretty. But
the two that stood out to me just because they're
so bizarre. We're felt that Boxing, which is a boxing
game with puppets, but like not muppet puppets, more like
Avenue Q level puppets. It seems like it just it

(40:02):
looks weird. And then the other was ledger Bound, which
is a two D art style, part turn based RPG,
part maybe dating sim part doing taxes that just looked
so funny that I have to play this game.

Speaker 2 (40:19):
I saw those, but I didn't. I didn't put those
on my list. The two that I have, one of
which is actually an existing game and it's just some
extra content that was already added, So now anyone, there
are a lot of people out there who have already
played through this, but I found it amusing, which is
that Hitman World of Assassination introduced a new elusive target. Now,

(40:41):
if you're not familiar, Elusive targets are these characters that
pop up. Usually there's a limited timeframe when they're available,
at least this is how it was initially, and you
only get one shot at taking them out, and if
you screw up, then you have to wait until it's
offered again, although they have since had a paid subscription
type thing where you are allowed to try again if

(41:04):
you want to, because people are getting so frustrated. So
the most recent character to be added as an elusive
target is Mad's Michelson's character from Casino Royale, Lushifra. So
I think it takes place in the Paris level of
hit Man, where Lushifra is part of a high stakes

(41:24):
poker game and your job is to take him out.
I have not played this. I do love the hit
Man series I've got. I could play this if my
gaming computer still worked. But that's that's one of the
things I liked. And the other one, y'all because they
ain't nothing to f with the Wu Tang Oh, yes,

(41:47):
the Deceiver Wu Tang clan has a video game and
I am here for it. It looks like a beat
him up Dark Soul's kind of game. Obviously. It has
a killer soundtrack again that's called Wu Tang Rise of
the Deceiver. Not sure when that's coming out, but uh,
when I saw that, I was like, well, this just

(42:09):
makes perfect sense.

Speaker 1 (42:11):
Yeah, this is not shade to any of the other
video game trailers that came out. Like I said, I'm
still working through them.

Speaker 2 (42:18):
So yeah, all right, Well we got tons of other
stuff to chat about. Uh. So I know you're all
out there saying, what if they made a zombie apocalypse
movie but it's cats.

Speaker 1 (42:31):
The world would be a much happier place.

Speaker 2 (42:33):
That's unless unless it was Andrew Lloyd Weber's Cats, in
which case will be even more terrifying.

Speaker 1 (42:37):
Why would you say something like that? Uh? The reason,
And I actually I know the reason because we've got
a trailer for an anime called nyat Night Night of
the Living Cat. It's the ny aight because.

Speaker 2 (42:54):
I think it's it's like meow, it's Night of the
Living kiet.

Speaker 1 (42:59):
Yeah, because nya is part like nyan is the Japanese
word for mew right yon like neon cat. Yeah, so
it's a play on that. Yeah, it's it's the world
is getting overrun by cats and if you turn in,
if you would touch a cat, you turn into a cat.
That's way more preferable to turning into a zombie, quite honestly,

(43:22):
and probably less painful. I mean, I've never had been
bit by a zombie, but I have been scratched by
a cat, and it's not usually too too bad.

Speaker 2 (43:31):
Yeah, and this looks hilarious. I mean, they are playing
on the tropes of zombie movies, and they're also playing
on like the fact that cats are cute and adorable
and they like to play with stuff. So, for example,
in one point, a character is going to serve as
a distraction so that other people can get away, and
they draw it's almost like they have wolverine claws, except

(43:51):
instead of claws, it's essentially a cat toy. So they're
trying to distract the kiddy cats to make them chase
after the cat toy and leave the other people. Well,
a loan's like get away, that's just a cute idea.
They of course create a device that is able to
translate cats meowls into human language, where we learn that

(44:13):
the cat will be back Allah on Old Schwarzenegger. I guess.

Speaker 1 (44:16):
Yeah, they've been trying to do that in real life too.

Speaker 2 (44:19):
Yeah, yeah, it looks extremely silly. It's coming to crunchy
roll on July sixth.

Speaker 1 (44:27):
Yeah. I will have to have somebody else watch it first,
because if there's too many cats that get hurt, I
won't be able to even though they're cartoons.

Speaker 2 (44:34):
Yeah, if we even see one cat getting punched or kicked,
I'm out really Oh yeah, okay, oh yeah, no, I
won't watch it. If there's any cats getting punched or kicked,
Like if they're getting shuffled off, that's fine, like you know,
like you're nudging a cat away, that's fine. But I
mean like punted or anything, I'm out.

Speaker 1 (44:52):
Okay punted, No, punched or kicked. If there's a fight,
I'm okay, as long as they aren't hurt. I just
don't like seeing animals get hurt. Well, I don't know.
It's it's very dependent, it's very dependent. The next thing
we have is we got a tiny little trailer because
Disney has decided to do a dramatic filming of their

(45:14):
musical Frozen, and they are released like they did with
New Zy's and Hamilton, and they are will be ur
will be releasing it on Disney.

Speaker 2 (45:23):
Plus on June twentieth, Art will be They Yeah, June twentieth,
which is the day when we are heading up to
a cabin with some friends of ours to celebrate some
idiot's birthday, And so there's the possibility we could end
up watching a pro shot Broadway performance of the Frozen

(45:47):
Stage musical. So this says the live action stage musical,
and it includes like a dozen songs that were not
in the original animated movie, which I hope includes my
own person favorite song from Frozen Stage musical, Huga, Huga,
Huga Huga. It is first of all, it's ridiculous. Second

(46:13):
of all, it talks about nudity and alcohol, and you're like,
this is a Disney show.

Speaker 1 (46:19):
Is is that like the Swedish word for for like comfy?

Speaker 2 (46:24):
Yeah, comfort like cozy? Is it? You get means comfortable?
You get means cozy.

Speaker 1 (46:31):
Yeah, kind of like cisu means which is finish means
like Yeah.

Speaker 2 (46:36):
There's a there's a moment in it where they're literally
just saying the word huga over and over again, and
after like the third or fourth time, it's one of
those things where you've heard the word too many times
and it stops to like even seem like a word,
And I love it. It makes me laugh every time.

Speaker 1 (46:54):
Do they bring because I've never seen the Frozen musical
or listen to it? Do they break into huga chuka?

Speaker 2 (46:59):
No, they do not. You don't get you don't get
hooked on a feeling, I will say so, whether you
like Frozen or not, you know whether whether you care
or don't care. For those of us out there who
are into like Broadway theater, I love seeing examples of
this because I want there to be more like official

(47:23):
pro shots of shows, because it's so hard to get
access to shows here in the United States. In particular,
it's very hard because if you want to go to
like the center of the theatrical universe here in the
United States, that means you have to travel to New York,
and typically you have to spend a pretty hefty amount

(47:45):
of money in order to be able to see a show.
And so like that means that access is obviously limited.
You're limited by space and you're limited by money. So
I love seeing pro shots that give more access to
theater so you can get a sense of what this
is like, I don't think it replaces the experience of going.

(48:06):
But I also understand that in order to do this,
you have to like establish the rights, you have to
figure out that everyone's getting paid equitably, you know, residuals
need to be factored into that sort of thing. Like
there's a lot of consideration that goes into this, so
it's not an easy task. And I see a lot
of Broadway fans like reduce this to why don't they

(48:28):
just do a pro shoot? I'm like, well, because if
you're an actor and you're in that show and your
your contract is all about, yes, I'm performing for people
who come to see it, and it's momentary and when
they leave, it's over. It doesn't live on after that.
If you change that with you recording it and broadcasting it,

(48:49):
then we got to talk about I got's to get paid.

Speaker 1 (48:52):
Yeah. However, that being said, there are like pro shots
that I am waiting to have happen. One we know
is happening.

Speaker 2 (49:00):
They too.

Speaker 1 (49:02):
Hadestown and six are both doing like original cast pro shots.

Speaker 2 (49:05):
But yeah, I don't know if we will.

Speaker 1 (49:07):
Get that in the US. Right now, they're only UK release.
I do love the UK. Has you can watch, you
have to pay for it, but you can watch the
entire entire like National Theater Catalog.

Speaker 2 (49:18):
You know, there are there are options to be able
to watch recorded Broadway shows legitimately, but it typically again
comes down to access, because it's usually that you have
to travel to New York and go to the library
that there's like a specific library that has a database
of all these recorded shows, like some with like original

(49:41):
casts and stuff, but that you know, that's the only
way you get access is if you have access to
that library, or that's not always possible. So again, stuff
like this I think is encouraging and I hope to
see more of it because like there's so many original
casts out there I would like to have seen in

(50:02):
a show, and you know, still seeing a show even
with a new cast, can be magical, but there's always
going to be that fear of missing out of like
the people who defined those characters for the first time.

Speaker 1 (50:15):
Yeah, I I in similar news. I saw this like
earlier today before we started recording. They announced it like
twenty one hours ago on social media. Beetlejuice is coming
back to Broadway for thirteen weeks starting October eighth. I
haven't looked at the cast list yet, because I don't

(50:37):
know if it's up yet. I my hope is because
I think originally they were hoping to do like a
pro shot of it, and then we like Beetlejuice was
going to get canceled and then got like crazy cult
popular reasonably. It's a very fun musical, it's very well done,
and then they were going to do a pro shot
and then COVID and then they reopened, but they didn't

(50:59):
do a pro shot. So I'm hoping that they can
get the cast back to do a pro shot because
let me tell you, that Broadway experience with the original
cast of that show is well worth it.

Speaker 2 (51:13):
Well. Moving on, We've got an animated film that I
don't think I had heard about, but we saw a
preview for it. It's called In Your Dreams. This one's
coming to Netflix, and it tells the story of I'm guessing.
Their brother and sister with an older sister and a
younger brother, and the younger brother is obsessed with dreams.

(51:35):
He's kind of like annoying younger brother character, and the
sister is kind of like the disaffected, like you're so
embarrassing your cringe kind of character and then they get
sucked into the dream world and Shenanigan's en sue, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (51:51):
It the Sandman takes the form of like a little
stuffed draft kind of a character.

Speaker 2 (51:59):
A spoiler, we don't know the trailer, we don't know
that that's the sand Man. We know that that is
his his long lost stuffed animal, and it probably is
going to turn out to be the Sandman, but I
don't think that he.

Speaker 1 (52:12):
Okay, well, little boy first.

Speaker 2 (52:13):
Thinks it's the Sandman, then the then the stuffed animal
appears and goes, oh, you're so and so my beloved
lost stuffed animal.

Speaker 1 (52:20):
Thank you for actually me. You are correct. I don't
know that it's a Sandman.

Speaker 2 (52:24):
That's just but it probably is.

Speaker 1 (52:26):
What the dream said. Uh, it looks cute. It kind
of reminded me of Nemo or Slumberland or one of
those kind of stories.

Speaker 2 (52:35):
It kind of reminded me of Inside Out a little bit.

Speaker 1 (52:38):
Yeah, yeah, I do. Like they end the trailer on
a relatable but uh relatable for adults and children joke
that I absolutely loved.

Speaker 2 (52:50):
Yeah, it's it's the classic naked you're naked in public
nightmare or stress dream if you prefer if you don't
think nightmare is quite the right word. But the characters
find themselves naked, and the sister is horrified, and meanwhile
the little brother doesn't understand what the big deal is.

Speaker 1 (53:10):
Yeah, and the stuffed animal, of course, being a stuffed animals,
Like this is great.

Speaker 2 (53:14):
Yeah, I laughed when I saw it, Like I thought,
this felt like a Pixar film, but with a little
more edge to it, like slightly edgier than what you
typically get with Pixar. It comes out on November fourteenth,
and again that's going to be on Netflix, so I
definitely want to check this out. Like it strikes me

(53:35):
as a fun story.

Speaker 1 (53:39):
Yeah, same here the next thing, which I thought the
first trailer made it look pretty fun, but the second trailer,
I don't know, I feel like it feels like it's
addressing some public perception stuff. We got a second trailer
for Ironheart, and this one makes the character seem a

(54:00):
little bit more heroic and positively motivated.

Speaker 2 (54:05):
I guess I have the exact same thing written in
my notes, like I'll read you what I wrote casts
reread in a more heroic light, less emphasis on making
compromises in order to achieve her vision. Slash being too ambitious.
So the first trailer made it seem like she was

(54:29):
she was so so focused, so consumed with being recognized
for her genius and her achievement, that she makes some
bad choices and then the rest of the show is
her dealing with those consequences. This one makes her seem
like she's much more noble in her pursuit, and that

(54:51):
she may still make bad decisions in that pursuit, but
that her, as you say, her motivations are more pure
and And it's interesting because I think if I watch
these two trailers back to back, I would think it
would almost feel like reshoots, right, Like, like you sit
there and wonder like, are both of these trailers representative

(55:12):
of what actually happens in the series, and it's just
their cherry picking the moments to kind of tell the
story they want to tell. Or is it a case
where they're like, let's re edit this real quick and
make her less of sort of a tragic hero figure
in the first bit. We'll find out on June twenty fourth,
that's when this series comes out on Disney Plus. And

(55:36):
I have to say, like Ironheart was one of those
series that I was anticipating quite a bit like two
years ago, but over the time that has passed, I
have become less enthusiastic about it. I'm hopeful that I'll
will still really enjoy it, but I know my expectations
are lower.

Speaker 1 (55:56):
That isn't their fault, though, because we had to deal
with a bunch of st and things like that.

Speaker 2 (56:01):
So mm hmm, that's true. And then there was the
whole Kang thing, Like there was a lot going on.
There was the reassessment from Kevin Figi and other executives
about the performance of and critical reception of more recent
Marvel offerings, Like there were a lot of things that

(56:24):
probably contributed to the long delay for this series to
come out.

Speaker 1 (56:29):
Yeah, but again, much like with video games, I take
the time you need to tell the story you want
to tell and make it good, because then I will
be more like when they reassessed and they're like, we
need to be a little bit more creative and we
need to take more time and make sure that we're
giving decent offerings each time. That excited me. I do

(56:52):
feel like Thunderbolts and Captain America were slightly better than
some of the Thunderbolts was better Captain and America. The
Red Hulk was slightly better than some of the Marvel
stuff that came recently before it. But I'm hoping that
this is a turn to make me excited again, because

(57:12):
I do like superhero movies. I like watching them. I'd
love to be in one.

Speaker 2 (57:17):
Yeah, I think Captain America. The fact that Captain America
was referencing the Incredible Hulk and the Eternals to films
that are widely considered to be toward the bottom of
the MCU output was an issue from the get go.

Speaker 1 (57:35):
Yeah. Yeah, but you know, Marvel's not the only one
who's had some critical reception. DC has two and a
lot of people are hesitant about the new Superman movie.
I was hesitant to put in the new trailer there's
a tickets Available now trailer that they released for Superman.
But then I watched it and I found it delightful.

Speaker 2 (57:57):
And it stresses the fact that it'll be available on
imat as well. Uh yeah, this one has Superman fighting
a lot, pretty much everybody. Superman fights everybody. He doesn't
fight Lewis Lane, but pretty much everybody else. I mean,
maybe I just haven't seen it.

Speaker 1 (58:14):
They might play chess or something. You know.

Speaker 2 (58:15):
Yeah, but there's like a bit where there's a face
off down with Guy Gardner, Nathan Fillian's Guy Gardner. There's
a lot of Lex Luthor being an absolute psychopath. Trailer
I was.

Speaker 1 (58:29):
I was already into like Nicholas Holt being Lex Luthor,
but now I'm one hundred percent sold on it.

Speaker 2 (58:34):
There's one moment and it's not just in this trailer,
They've shown it in other trailer's too, But there's one
moment where I'm like, that's too much, which is just
that he's walking through the Fortress of Solitude and meanwhile
his hinchwoman is cutting robots in half with her hands
and and like some robot parts go flying right past

(58:55):
his face. And it's and he's doing the cool walking
towards something while not paying any attention to anything else
that's going on around him. And I'm like, so, so
you're protected by narrative because physics don't matter while everything's
blowing up, and you're just like, I don't care that
everything's blowing up, nothing's gonna touch me. I'm just gonna

(59:18):
keep walking towards this thing.

Speaker 1 (59:19):
I actually have two questions for you, because I like Superman,
but I'm not deep into the lore or the lore
that I have been deep into. I've forgotten one who
is this henchwoman because she looks like mistiques me.

Speaker 2 (59:33):
Yeah, well, clearly can't be Mistique because Marvel versus DC.
But I don't know who that's supposed to be. But
that I'm also I'm more of a Marvel fan. It's
weird because I collected more DC comic books for quite
some time, but I'm more of a Marvel fan than
a DC fan. So my knowledge of Superman lore is patchy.

(59:57):
Like there's certain parts of Superman lawy I know a
lot about, and then there are other like entire stretches
where I'm like, wait, what happened? So I can't answer
your question.

Speaker 1 (01:00:08):
The second question is something Tony and I actually had
a little bit of a friendly disagreement about. I was
about to say a fight about, but no, it was
a friendly disagreement, which is he feels like in the trailer,
having the robots is a callback to the Kevin Smith
film where they wanted to put in a whole bunch
of weird stuff, like the Kevin Smith's Superman film that

(01:00:30):
got canned that was supposed to have Nicholas Cage in it.

Speaker 2 (01:00:33):
Well, how I was supposed to have a giant spider.

Speaker 1 (01:00:35):
It was supposed to have a giant spider, it was
supposed to have robots in the Fortress of Solitude. And
Tony's like, why can't they just let Superman have Solitude
in the Fortress of Solitude. But I feel like, and
not just in Man of Steel, because there was at
least a little AI robot that went around in the
spaceship or the Fortress of Solitude or something for him there.

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I feel like I've seen robots in the Fortress of
Solitude and other stuff. Is that just me?

Speaker 2 (01:01:01):
I seem to recall it too, But at this point
I can't tell you for sure if it's the Mandela effect.

Speaker 1 (01:01:07):
Gotcha? Gotcha?

Speaker 2 (01:01:08):
You know, like I want to say, I want to say, oh, sure,
there's some versions where there are robots in the Fortress
of Solitude, But I honestly, I can't trust my own
you know me, I can't trust my brain on a
good day.

Speaker 1 (01:01:21):
I do know that he's always been able to talk
to his dad in the Fortress of Solitude. But listeners,
if you're more Superman fans, reach out and let us know,
because I am curious, but I'm also lazy.

Speaker 2 (01:01:30):
So yeah, we got we got a few more stories
we want to get through before we wrap up. Quite
a few actually, So next up is a trailer that
Ariel found, and it was funny because she listed it
on our lineup and said that she was not really
planning on watching this trailer because it's for a horror
movie and it's titled Forgive Us All. And I told

(01:01:53):
Ariel earlier today that in my opinion, she is totally
capable of seeing this trailer. So my question to you,
Ariel is did you watch it?

Speaker 1 (01:02:01):
I did watch it. So the reason it's a post
apocalyptic trailer where people kind of turn cannibalistic and into monsters,
and there's this woman who basically survives in a valley
and then a stranger comes to deliver her good news.
So it feels like Jonathan said, it felt like Last
of Us and I feel like it's a mix between
that and Z for Zachariah, which is a story about

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nuclear fallout where a girl lives in a valley with
her family and they're protected from the fallout because they
live in this valley, and then her family go to
leave to find other people, and she's just left with
her dog and her family never comes back. And then
a stranger comes in and then he's real nice to
her at first, but then he tries to assault her basically,

(01:02:43):
and she leaves with her dog, and then the dog
dies and that's where the story ends. Wow, yeah, it's
They made a movie about it with Chris Pine recently
made a little bit more of a love Triangle, which
was weird. But I didn't watch it because I had
to read this book in middle school and I hated it.
And I still hate that story, not just because the

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dog dies, but because.

Speaker 2 (01:03:04):
It's just so It's.

Speaker 1 (01:03:07):
One of those stories that leaves me with no hope,
right despite the fact that the stranger did come from
outside but he had radiation poisoning, she nursed him back
to health, and then when he was healthy, he tried
to sexually it sault her. But this reminded me of that,
just from the log line of like a stranger coming
in to deliver news. I didn't want to watch it
because the log line talked about cannibalistic stuff and at

(01:03:29):
the beginning of the trailer there is a guy chopping
some sort of mystery meat it's probably a rabbit, but
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:03:36):
Well, mostly I don't think. First of all, I don't
think the humans are eating humans. I think the ones
who have been corrupted into these zombie like creatures. And
one of the reasons I said it reminds me of
the Last of Us is they make this clicking noise
that's very much like the clickers in Last of Us.
I'm like, So my note says, what if the Last

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of Us but kind of a modern West.

Speaker 1 (01:04:02):
That's gonna be the kind of the theme for the
next story too. What if this but a modern West,
but a Western?

Speaker 2 (01:04:07):
Yeah, So this one, there's there's a father and father
in law and his daughter in law living in a house.
His son has been lost, as has the daughter in
law's daughter, so his grandchild has also been lost, isn't
there They're either dead or monsters or whatever. And then

(01:04:32):
this stranger shows up and he's wounded. And then some
other folks show up and they're looking for the stranger,
and she finds that from what I can tell, the
stranger has a child who also has become infected, and
the reason he was being pursued is he broke into

(01:04:54):
a facility to steal a cure that could work as
long as it's delivered within seventy two hours of infection,
and so that he decides he wants to you know,
he's going to risk everything for his child. And she
decides to help him because she feels this is a
way where she can sort of help, she can provide

(01:05:16):
the help she could not provide her daughter, right, And
she's like, if we don't do this, then why are
we even here for, Like, why are we here if
it's not to try and help people in need? And
so that's what it looks like to me. Again, this
is based off the trailer. I haven't read into the
story at all. It comes to digital platforms on July eleventh,

(01:05:39):
I thought, I thought it looked like it was playing
in some pretty familiar tropes that we have seen multiple
times over the years. But it looks like it's doing
it well. So it looks really familiar in some ways,
but it looks like it's doing a good job. So
if you're looking for something totally new, this might not
scratch that itch. But if you're looking for something that

(01:06:01):
appears to have been done with you know, artistic integrity.
At least the trailer gave me that vibe.

Speaker 1 (01:06:08):
Yeah, yeah, if you want more scary in a Western setting.
We also have a trailer for Abraham's Boys, a Dracula
story which is Dracula in the West. It's written by
Joe Hill, who is Stephen king Kings, who also wrote

(01:06:32):
Lock and Key, which I do like Lock and Key
a lot.

Speaker 2 (01:06:35):
So he also did the Doctor Strange or not Doctor Strange,
Doctor Sleep, sorry, Doctor Sleep, that's which was the sequel
to The Shining So so he wrote a sequel to
his own dad's book.

Speaker 1 (01:06:47):
I didn't know that he was the one who wrote that.
I never watched Doctor Sleep, so.

Speaker 2 (01:06:54):
Yeah, it was a novel first, and then you had
the Ewan McGregor movie. But uh, yeah, it's it's it's
I think it's a good horror movie. I think Mike
Flanagan did that one.

Speaker 1 (01:07:07):
Interesting. He also did U Noss for A two, which
is the NS number four Letter A Number two, which
got turned into a TV show for a while.

Speaker 2 (01:07:18):
NOS for a two, yeah, like.

Speaker 1 (01:07:21):
And then Heart Shaped Box Horns, which was.

Speaker 2 (01:07:24):
I don't know, was that the Daniel Radcliffe one.

Speaker 1 (01:07:27):
Yeah. So a bunch of stuff, most of which I
haven't done, you know, I'm not a huge horror person.
But I really did like Lock and Key, I do
like Dracula, and I like the West. I'm iffy on
this trailer. It looks almost a little boring.

Speaker 2 (01:07:39):
So yeah, it looks so it looks like the Van Helsings,
after the the wackiness that was the Dracula story, had
made their way to America nineteen fifteen. Like, I can't
remember what year Dracula is supposed to take place in,
but to me, nineteen fifteen is late enough. Where is
this supposed to be Van Helsing's sons family, because he

(01:08:01):
would have been pretty old by the time you get
around the nineteen fifteen But I honestly can't remember what
year Dracula's supposed to take place in, so I might
just have my years off. But yeah, it's it's his
family's got two young boys a much younger wife.

Speaker 1 (01:08:18):
Around eighteen ninety to eighteen ninety two.

Speaker 2 (01:08:21):
So yeah, so you're talking about twenty five years later,
like and Van Helsing is already you know, I mean,
maybe maybe you could argue he's supposed to be forty
but still pretty pretty old getting over there. Anyway, He's
he's telling them that, you know, the wife is feeling unsettled,

(01:08:44):
and so he's interpreting that as Dracula's on his way.
So they're like preparing the house to try and repel
Dracula in case Dracula shows up. So obviously Dracula somehow
has survived the story of Dracula, where in the original
novel spoiler, he totally doesn't. And then there's like some
questions about even Van Helsing's potential sanity. Like there's some

(01:09:08):
little elements toward the end of the trailer the hint
at maybe this is that the fact that you know,
these two boys have two crazy pants people as parents
comes out July eleventh. I'm not totally sold on this either,
Like I like I like Joe Hill, I like Joe

(01:09:29):
Hill's stuff, but this did not This did not like
give me a lot of confidence.

Speaker 1 (01:09:34):
If you had told me conceptually about this first, I'd
be like, yeah, I'm in. But the trailer didn't quite
sell me.

Speaker 2 (01:09:40):
And it could just be that it's not a very
good trailer. It could be that the movie is fantastic.

Speaker 1 (01:09:46):
Yeah, yeah, for sure. If I was still playing Calamity,
maybe I'd be like, I have to watch this because
I'm doing a wild West Monster Hunter thing.

Speaker 2 (01:09:53):
Yeah, but I'm not.

Speaker 1 (01:09:54):
Anymore because it's over. The next trailer we have is
for a movie that I thought existed, and so I
didn't watch it until today because there is already a
movie called Brickout. It's a noir about high schoolers selling cocaine.

Speaker 2 (01:10:10):
Yeah, it's a different brick that came out in like
two thousand and five, I think, yeah, yeah, yeah, so
this is one that came out. It's coming out this
year on July tenth on Netflix. It's a German movie.
So if you watch the trailer and you think how
weird their mouths are not moving with the same motions

(01:10:30):
that these words are, it's because it was originally in German,
I believe.

Speaker 1 (01:10:34):
Gotcha, I didn't catch the WDWT.

Speaker 2 (01:10:38):
Yeah. The basic premise here is that people inside an
apartment building wake up to find that they have been
bricked in to their apartments, Like they opened the door
to their apartment to lead out to the hallway, and
there's these mysterious black bricks there, same with the windows,
and these bricks appear to be impenetrable and sometimes display

(01:11:03):
magnetic properties, and ultimately they find the only thing they
can really do is break holes between walls so that
they can you know, congregate, at least if we're on
the same side of the building. I imagine if they're
on the opposite side of the building, there's no way
to get to them. But they all get together in

(01:11:24):
an attempt to figure out what's going on and how
they can get out. And this one comes out July
tenth on Netflix. So what did you think? What did
you think when you watched the trailer?

Speaker 1 (01:11:34):
I thought it looked interesting, a little bit more like
adventure mystery and less horror, which I liked.

Speaker 2 (01:11:44):
Yeah, yeah, I felt like this. This felt like it
could have been a milder episode of Black Mirror. Yeah,
more like a Twilight Zone episode. Honestly, if I get bored,
I might watch it high praise indeed, No, I mean
it looks fine. I just there's a lot of stuff
on the list, you know, it's totally totally legit. I

(01:12:05):
can feel that, Like, I'm certainly curious, and I might
give it a try. It might be one of those
that I'll dedicate like twenty minutes too, and if I'm
not feeling it, I'll hit e ject. But I mean
complicating things is that the trailer at least establishes one
of the folks or two of the people that you're

(01:12:26):
following is it's a couple that's having a breakup, and
that that's when you discover that everything's been bricked in.
Is that the woman wants to leave, and so she
goes and opens the door and suddenly she can't leave.
And I thought at first it was going to be
kind of like, I thought it was going to be
like that Alison Brief Franco movie Together or whatever it is. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

(01:12:51):
I thought it was going to be like, oh, here's
a heavy handed metaphor to talk about being trapped in
a relationship. But then as the trailer went on, it no, oh, no,
it's more complicated than that.

Speaker 1 (01:13:01):
It is more complicated than that. Speaking of more complicated,
if you wanted something more complicated then Carrie, but less
cheesy than New Mutants, there's a new TV show for you.

Speaker 2 (01:13:16):
It's called The Institute and it's based off of Stephen
King novel. Yeah. I said that it feels like like
X Men mixed with Stranger Things.

Speaker 1 (01:13:26):
Yeah. Yeah, So it's it's these kids have these powers
and kind of get in their sleep transported to the Institute.
The trailer, the the person who runs the institute, this
building with all of these kids with these powers in
it seems to portray it as their parents know they're there,
and their parents are fine, and these kids have been

(01:13:48):
put there for their safety and training. We don't know
if that's true or not. I don't know if that's
true or not because I haven't read it. But it's
also kind of like the New Mutants movie, which I
know not a lot of people watched one of those
situations where they're experimented on and kids die. It looks
like possibly.

Speaker 2 (01:14:06):
Because it's dangerous, yeah, Like like this institute is somehow
trying to harness the powers that these kids have, or
maybe even try to find a way to duplicate that.
You know. It kind of gives you the vibes of
government discovers potential in these and then wants to exploit
that potential. So the leader of the institute is played

(01:14:29):
by Mary Louise Parker. She looks very convincing as a
like like no nonsense, like sorry, this is how it is,
Like I know you don't don't like it, but it
doesn't matter. Here you are. And then the main character
is a teenager boy named Luke. But yeah, as Ariel says,

(01:14:55):
like he encounters other teens who have also been transported
to this place. I'm left wondering, since it is a
Stephen King story, if this is supposed to be set
in the same Stephen King universe as Firestarter, which was
about a young girl who displays pyrokinetic abilities, and because

(01:15:16):
it kind of feels like it feels a lot like
that to me, except you know, more advanced and further
along on the timeline.

Speaker 1 (01:15:24):
Well, didn't Carrie also have some kind of psychic.

Speaker 2 (01:15:28):
Yes, Carrie does too. Carrie has telepathic capabilities, telekinetic capabilities.
That's what That's what I really meant.

Speaker 1 (01:15:36):
So yeah, so I wonder if it's because Stephen King
likes to connect his stories, it would very true.

Speaker 2 (01:15:42):
Yeah, ultimately it would all all connect to the Dark Tower.
I mean, that's that's like the central point I hate.
I really like the first four books in that series.

Speaker 1 (01:15:54):
I did hear like I hadn't read it. Our mutual
friend Jen tried to read the book, got to the
part where the main character piece On Corn looked at
her friends and said, is this a pan On Corn book?
They said yes, and she closed it and never picked
it up.

Speaker 2 (01:16:07):
It's not a peing on corn book. It does happen,
but it's because it's because water is so is so
rare that the idea of dedicating your moisture to someone
else's sustenance is a show of res I get.

Speaker 1 (01:16:25):
It, and she gets it too, But it's just it's
a funny anecdote. But but yeah, I haven't read a
lot of The Dark Tower, which is why I wasn't
as offended by the movie that came out with Addris
Elba several years ago. But I do hear it went
off the rails.

Speaker 2 (01:16:45):
But yeah, I liked it. I liked it all the
way up through the fourth book, and then once you
get there's seven total, and once you get to book five,
I noped out, Like I read book five and then
I said, I don't care where the story goes now
because it took such a turn now. To be fair,

(01:17:05):
there was also a period of time in there where
Stephen King got hit by a truck, so you know
he was badly injured and recovering, and that I'm sure
I had an effect on his writing anyway. This one
comes out July thirteenth on MGM plus other thing I
learned while I was looking into this is that the

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first episode was screened at south By Southwest on June fifth,
and that confused me because south By Southwest, as I know,
it is this big festival that happens in Austin, Texas
in March. And that's when I found out that this
year was the first year for south By Southwest London.

(01:17:49):
And then I had to wrestle my brain back into
my skull because it was rejecting the idea that you
could have a south By Southwest festival in London.

Speaker 1 (01:18:00):
Every country has a southwestern portion, Jonathan.

Speaker 2 (01:18:05):
Yeah, but it's not the same. There're no cowboys running
around London.

Speaker 1 (01:18:10):
I mean you don't know that.

Speaker 2 (01:18:12):
Well, every time every time I've been to London, I've
seen a distinct lack of cowboys.

Speaker 1 (01:18:18):
Get on that London. Next, we have trailers for some
season three stuff, Just a couple of things. The first
is Strange New Worlds, which is the Star Trek Enterprise
prequel with Captain Pike and a young like capt'n Kirk.

(01:18:41):
It looks delightful as all Patton Oswald apparently is in
this season and I am afore that.

Speaker 2 (01:18:46):
Yeah, that was the one thing I wrote down was that,
so I haven't been watching Strange New Worlds. I haven't
watched any New Trek stuff since Star Trek Into Darkness.
That was the last Trek property that I've watched, because
I could feel it moving in a direction where I
was like, this is no longer the Trek that I love.
And that's okay. Other people love it, that's okay, but

(01:19:11):
I can tell this isn't going to be the thing
that I associate with Star Trek, the thing that makes
me love Star Trek. So I'm just gonna I'm just
gonna get out of the bus or the starship and
just enjoy the stuff that I already like. And so
I haven't watched Discovery. I haven't watched any you know,
below decks. I haven't watched any of that stuff. So
I watched this trailer and I was like, I don't

(01:19:33):
know what's going on, is what I wrote. But then
I said, seeing Paton Oswald as a Vulcan makes it
all worthwhile.

Speaker 1 (01:19:41):
Yeah, Yeah, So I did watch Star Trek Discovery. I
loved the end of it. I felt the first few
seasons were a little belabored. I do see I have
several several people I know who have said that, like
Star Trek, Discovery didn't just let you feel the way
you felt about the storyline. It tried to like lecture

(01:20:05):
you into the feelings that they wanted you to have.
And Star Trek has always been aspirational and this has
always made points right, or at least tried to be,
not always successfully, but it has canonically tried to be.
I do agree that Discovery could be a little bit
heavy handed it sometimes, but I still really enjoyed it.

(01:20:26):
I feel like Strange New Worlds is not heavy handed.
I feel like it is just effortly aspirational but still has,
you know, moments of hard and scary, because every Star
Trek does. I really like it. It's the closest thing to
the Old School that I feel I have.

Speaker 2 (01:20:45):
Yeah, the thing I loved about Old School's Star Trek
is that, like, confrontation was always a last resort, right,
Like that was never that was never a go to.
So the moments where things are firing phasers at each
other are relatively few and far between, because really the

(01:21:07):
challenge was how can we understand what is happening and
navigate the situation in a way where no one ends
up getting you know, treated poorly because you know, one
side didn't understand the other or whatever, and so there
was a lot more like negotiation and investigation and that

(01:21:28):
kind of thing. And I always appreciated that because, again,
it was a very optimistic view of the future, right,
this idea that humans had somehow reached a point where
mindless aggression wasn't the go to response. And the issue
I have with a lot of later Star Trek is
that aggression seems to be on the table way earlier

(01:21:51):
than it would be in previous versions of Trek. But
I haven't watched Strange New world so I don't know
if that's an exception. I just know that, like the
first season of Picard, I was like, oh no, based
on what I was saying, that this doesn't look like
this is my Trek at all.

Speaker 1 (01:22:06):
No, Picard is not your Trek at all, not at all.
Just the later seasons of Discovery might be for you,
but it would be hard to get there because you'd
have to get through the first few or they're dealing
with the Klingons, which was very you know, Klingons are warlike, warlike.
I would say Strange New Worlds, I know you were
worried about it being a little too goofy at points,

(01:22:27):
but you did like Orville.

Speaker 2 (01:22:28):
Right, the bits I've seen. I've never actually watched Orville
as I like, a I don't think I've ever seen
a full episode, but the bits I have seen I
did like. Now, granted, it may be that that's because
it was a little bit out of context and didn't
it have enough Seth MacFarlane to make me want to
claw my eyes out?

Speaker 1 (01:22:48):
So the first season starts off kind of heavy Seth
Farlindy and then just becomes a really good Star Trek
show because that's really what he wanted to.

Speaker 2 (01:22:58):
Do, right, he wanted to make an like Next Generation.

Speaker 1 (01:23:01):
Yeah, yeah, and it does. I mean it still has
some Seth MacFarland in there, but overall it's really good,
very moving episodes, some really really good stuff in there.
Strange New Worlds, I feel is the same way. There
is some goofy in there, and I know, like, I
don't know if it was you or Tony when they
dropped a clip of some of the crew of Strange
New Worlds turning into vulcans and like, that's not how

(01:23:22):
vulcans work. Yeah, Like I get that, but I feel
like it does a really good job of being fun
and adventurous. There is, you know, there is some action,
and there is some goofy, but I feel like for
the most part, it balances it well. I am not
as much of a fan of the musical episode as
some other people, although there were a couple good bangers

(01:23:44):
in there, but overall I have quite enjoyed it.

Speaker 2 (01:23:50):
It comes out July seventeenth, which tells me that the
week of July tenth through seventeenth is going to be crazy,
because like about sixty percent of what we've talked about
is coming out that week. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:24:02):
I had a friend recently who just took all of
the geeky things coming out and put down a list
of release dates for all of them. I'm like, thank
you for doing that work, so I don't have to Well.

Speaker 2 (01:24:10):
Yeah, like I said, that week in July, So the
Institute comes out that week, Brick comes out that week,
Abraham's Boys comes out that week, Forgive Us All comes
out that week. Like a lot of stuff is coming
out in that stretch. And the next thing we're talking
about also debuts that week.

Speaker 1 (01:24:29):
Which is season three of Foundation, which is a television
show based off of an Isaac Asimov's story series that
both this se I feel like both the series and
the show have gotten wildly drastically different reviews. Like I
have some friends who love the books. I have some
friends who are like, if you're going to skip anything

(01:24:50):
of Asimov, make it the Foundation Series. I have friends
feel the same way about the show.

Speaker 2 (01:24:56):
The Foundation Series is interesting because as I understand it,
and to be clear, I have not read it, so
I could be completely in the wrong about this, But
this is my recollection. It's a series of stories that
also spans a huge amount of time, so like earlier
parts of the story involve characters who are not going

(01:25:17):
to appear later on because generations have passed since that
part of the story in the next part. So it
makes me wonder, like, I haven't been watching the series
and I haven't read the books, so I don't know
if the series is focusing on like a very concentrated
part of the Foundation story, or if it is trying

(01:25:38):
to encompass the entirety of the Foundation Story, in which
case you'd be like, well, you'd have to recast that
series every season because you'd be jumping so far ahead,
the characters that are your primary characters in season one
would all be long dead by season two. Yeah, but
I haven't been watching, so I don't know. I do

(01:26:00):
know that the guy who appears to be the antagonist,
based on this trailer, because again I don't know what's
going on, he seems very compelling, like he's he's playing
a character who has psychic abilities and can dominate the
will of people that he encounters, like he can make
them think and feel things very remick from Sinners in

(01:26:24):
that way. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:26:25):
That that actor is Jared Harris, who has done a
bunch of other stuff, including like Sherlock Holmes.

Speaker 2 (01:26:32):
Yeah, well he's great at this, Like I mean, he
doesn't it's not like he's doing a ton, but what
he does I thought, I was like, well, if you
needed to find someone who could play an intimidating villain,
this guy is a good choice.

Speaker 1 (01:26:46):
Yeah. He's also done Resident Evil, the Expanse Carnival Row,
but a bunch of stuff, and it still has Lee
Pace in it. So and Leslie Pace is playing his
own grandpa. They're probably still in the same life span of.

Speaker 2 (01:27:00):
A person grandson really, but well yeah, yeah, so this
comes out to his own Grandpa comes out to eleven
on Apple TV Plus. So yeah, I feel like I
just totally slept on this because I haven't been watching
the series. I haven't read the books. I really should.
I just actually I've read so little of Isaac Asimov's

(01:27:23):
work it's kind of embarrassing. But yeah, I feel like
this is one that maybe I should pay more attention to,
at the very least because it's on Apple TV Plus,
which does not guarantee quality. But they've they've been pretty
good with the stuff I've watched.

Speaker 1 (01:27:42):
Yeah, at least two of my favorite shows are from there,
which is Murder Button Severance.

Speaker 2 (01:27:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:27:48):
I do like ted Lassoto too. I very much like it.
I'm very much enjoying it. I'm almost done with the
third season, but I wouldn't say it's my favorite show
because after that or along with that, comes to the
HBO Watchman series. Yeah, Like I said, I've got friends,
some friends who love the Foundation series and some friends
who hate it. As far as like the TV show,
it's one I think that I will give a try too,

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though I may have to try it without my husband
because he's not super interested in it. But yeah, that's
that's all we have for this week. And Jonathan, it's
been a long episode. So do you want to tell
people how to contact us? Sure?

Speaker 2 (01:28:27):
Yeah, if you want to get in touch with me,
what you'll have to do is on July tenth, you'll
have to set out in search of me. And I'm
just going to tell you it's going to take you
from July tenth to July eighteenth to track me down.
And the reason I'm telling you that is you're going
to know that while you're in the middle of tracking

(01:28:48):
me down. And by the way, this is like a
twenty four to seven thing. This is like you have
time to get some sleep, but that's it. You cannot
be distracting yourself or whatever you are in pursuit to
try and track me down. It means you're doing this
knowing that all of the geeky things we're talking about
are now out and in the world and you are

(01:29:08):
not currently experiencing them because you have to ask me
your question. And if after those days when you've been
trying to find me and sacrificing the fact that you
have not seen any of these and you know your
friends are all watching it, and you know you can't
even go on social media, because if you do, you're
just going to be inundated by spoilers. Then and only

(01:29:32):
then will you track me down and you can ask
me your question, And chances are I'll just say like,
oh yeah, no that you totally find that out if
you just watched that thing that came out like seven
days ago.

Speaker 1 (01:29:44):
And if you don't want to do that, you can
reach out to us on social media, on Facebook and
Instagram and threads and Discord. We are large ner drawn
collider on Blue Sky or something. Look for us.

Speaker 2 (01:30:00):
Wow, you are falling apart with this?

Speaker 1 (01:30:05):
Fine?

Speaker 2 (01:30:06):
Uh fine, fine, I'll tell them how they can actually
get in touch with us. Discord. The way to get
in touch with us is through Discord, because Ariel actually
checks it.

Speaker 1 (01:30:18):
I mean I check Instagram and Threads and Facebook. I
am on Discord daily though on let me log out,
sign out, and then I'll sign back in. We're LNC podcast, dot,
bsky dot social back into my aerial one. And there

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are too many of them, and.

Speaker 2 (01:30:41):
I don't This is why, this is why I abandoned
them all. I mean, like, I totally agree with you.
In fact, I would I would suggest that we Sunset
Blues guides and direct more people to either emailed or discord.

Speaker 1 (01:30:56):
Cool, Jonathan, you're the smart one. Yeah. You can also
reach out to us on email, which is large nerdron
Pod at gmail dot com. If you want an invite
to the discord. If you can't find us on there,
we do have it at the bottom of every post
on our website, which is up to day as of
the last episode. Yes, so my goal has been and

(01:31:20):
I'm still working towards it. I'm just gotta read ju
My schedule a little bit is to get our notes
up on the website right before we record, so then
because sometimes we add things kind of last minute, so
if as I'm about to go in, I can put
everything on the website. Then once it's released, I can
label it and send it out to y'all. But it

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is it is updated as of last week, so yay.
I will stay on top of it.

Speaker 2 (01:31:47):
Better.

Speaker 1 (01:31:49):
We may not be recorded. I don't think we'll be
recording next week. Next Friday up.

Speaker 2 (01:31:55):
To the mountains of Georgia to celebrate.

Speaker 1 (01:31:59):
Some idiots birthdays, some amazing, wonderful person's birthday, but we
will be back the week after that. Yeah, if you've
got questions you want us to ask things you're excited about,
opinions on things we've talked about. Please reach out. We
love hearing from you, we love geeking out with you.
And until next time, I am burial, uh some some casting.

Speaker 2 (01:32:26):
I have Jonathan take me Home Country Roads. The Large
ner Dron Collider was created by Ariel Casting and produced, edited, published, deleted, undeleted,
published again. Curse That by Jonathan Strickman. Music by Kevin McLeod,

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