LNC Takes the Fidelity Test

Ariel and Jonathan talk about scary movies, the use of storytelling as protection, and share our love for the current horror renaissance.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:09):
Hey, everybody, Welcome to the largen Oor John Collider Podcast,
the podcast that's all about the geeky things happening in
the world around us and how very excited we are
about them. I'm Ariel Caston, and with me as always
is the ever delightful he made it through Spooky Season
Jonathan Strickland Spooky Season is over? What jow One of

(00:31):
my friends shared a picture that they found online of
an inflatable Santa on his face with an inflatable Turkey
sitting on top of him, saying, not yet, Santa. That's
how I feel.

Speaker 2 (00:44):
I the house in our neighborhood that puts out in
front a big animatronic clown that activates when something passes
in front of it. You know, it's it's like it's
like six feet tall tall clown, very skinny. They have
already dressed the clown up in a turkey onesie, so

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the clown is. They've done this in the past too,
where for like half the year, the clown will stay
out on their porch and just be dressed for different
holidays depending upon the time of year. We have seen
the clown stick around as long as Easter in the past.
I keep hoping for the clown to state there year round, honestly,

(01:27):
but around the Easter they do tend to retire it.
So we'll see if it lasts till Easter this time.
But currently it is in Thanksgiving mode.

Speaker 1 (01:36):
The cloud needs a union break in the springtime, that
might be it. Yeah, speaking of that, that's a great story.
I would love to see a picture of the clown
in a Turkey onesie. And speaking of pictures, thank you
to everybody who's sent in your Halloween costumes. That was
really cool and we really appreciated it. Yeah, that's it.

(02:02):
That's it. That's our show.

Speaker 2 (02:05):
Good night, folks.

Speaker 1 (02:08):
Yeah, sorry, we were off a little bit. It's been
a crazy busy couple of weeks, but we're really glad
to be back. And man, do we got a lot
of stuff to talk about.

Speaker 2 (02:18):
Yeah. So originally we had a full lineup for last week,
but then I was the reason why we weren't really
able to record.

Speaker 1 (02:28):
And then.

Speaker 2 (02:31):
This week we decided we would keep some of the
stories that Arie'll put together for last week and then
we would add to that. And the longer the week
went as usual, the more stories started pouring in, and
so I started to cull the stuff from last week
a lot more strenuously, so there's hardly any stories left

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from last week at this point, but there are a couple.

Speaker 1 (02:58):
And then, like I was looking right before I got on,
like five more trailers have dropped that we did not
have an opportunity to stick in here.

Speaker 2 (03:07):
So yeah, maybe maybe you can give a shout out
of some of those, but yeah I haven't. I haven't
even checked today for any other new ones. But before
we get to all of that, I believe the way
we start off episodes now is we begin with a question.

Speaker 1 (03:27):
Yeah, this one feels out of date.

Speaker 2 (03:29):
A little bit now, No, it's it's fair because as
we know from the Christmas songs, scary ghost stories still
play a part in Christmas time.

Speaker 1 (03:41):
That's true. So my question, that was meant to be
a Halloween proper question, is what scary movie has scared
you the most.

Speaker 2 (03:51):
I thought about this for a while because this one's
also hard for me because remembering back to like being
a kid in watching scary movies and stuff like those
affected me on a different level than watching horror movies
as an adult. There were times when I remember watching
movies that weren't even horror movies, but I was sick,

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and the combination of being sick and having a fever
and watching a movie just created like these weird hallucinations
in my head that made those movies terrifying. So I
have to separate that out as well. I ultimately decided
that the scariest film I think, or at least the
scariest film watching experience that I have had as an

(04:36):
adult is I'll read you how I wrote it down,
because there's a typo the Blair with Project should be
the Blair Witch Project, but I wrote I forgot to
see there. But yeah, the Blair Witch Project was probably
the scariest film watching experience I had as an adult,
because this is easy to forget with so many years

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having gone by. In the early days of the Blair
Witch Project being released, there was such a great marketing
campaign right like this. There was this whole web presence
that supported the lore and expanded the lore of the
Blair Witch Project and created this whole mystery about this

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supposed footage that had been discovered in the woods in
Maryland and then edited together to make this film. And
I saw it in the theater with I don't think
it was a full audience, but it was an engaged audience.
People were quiet and listening, which is really important because

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sound design in that movie is a big part of
what makes it so effective. And so I was really
creeped out by that movie, so much so that on
the drive back, my partner was cursing my name because

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we were going through like backwoods roads that were dark
and you know, no street lights or anything, and that
just seemed to continue the experience that we had just
had watching this film in the theater. What movie scared
you the most?

Speaker 1 (06:23):
The movie that has scared me the most is Cloverfield
the first time, Okay, because there is one moment in
it when the main cast is walking through the streets
and there is a person in the background. And I
might have talked about this on a previous episode, but

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it still holds true. There was a person in the
background in a tent who had been affected by the
aliens and was just screaming. And the screaming was so
honest and visceral. I like a lot of times were
you When you hear screams in movies, sometimes it's the
same person that they use to put its screams into

(07:05):
multiple movies they have scream artists who specifically do that,
and sometimes they sound really real and sometimes they sound theatrical, right,
depending on.

Speaker 2 (07:15):
There are a lot of scream queens, for example, who
are known for their screams in Hollywood films, and they
do a great job. But it does like, if you
were to isolate it, you're like, oh, that's performative. That's
not like what a person really sounds like when they're scared, horrified, upset, distraught,

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Like it's just not the sound that most people make.

Speaker 1 (07:38):
Yeah, which is honestly something that stuck with me and
I have put into my performance after hearing that I
was able to play somebody who had to scream in
a cuthulup in a Lovecraft piece for an artsy show.
This is years ago now, and I made sure that
that scream that I gave, which is especially hard if
you're on a microphone, right, that that scream that I

(08:01):
gave was earnest and not scream queen. Scream queen is
great for some stuff, but I wanted it to be
scary and to give a real terrified, like I am
terrified for my life scream. We'll do it, Bravo to
whoever that actress was or whoever that scream artist was.

(08:23):
There are like that that was the scariest movie I've seen.
There are other scary movies that have disturbed me, some
like watching The Poseidon Adventure as a kid. That's a
that's a scary movie, but it's not a horror I
would say made me very afraid of draft. I love
cruises now, but it made me so afraid as a
little kid.

Speaker 2 (08:44):
Yeah, yeah, I think, Well, first of all, it's interesting
that both of us picked found footage films, uh, because
I mean, that's a that's a sub genre that has
way more misses than hits, Like they're just so many.
I mean, I think horror in general tends to be

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a low budget genre for film, Like you typically don't
have big budgets for horror movies. You don't need them.
But then found footage tends to be even more so
in the let's call it affordable side of production. But
that also means that there's a very low bar of entry,

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and so there's a ton of stuff that's just not
very good. So for Cloverfield and for Blair Witch to
be in there, like those I would argue are two
of the better found footage films.

Speaker 1 (09:34):
Well, I mean Cloverfield admittedly had a I don't know,
I would imagine it had I haven't looked into it.
I would imagine it would have had a pretty high
budget because it was also a sci.

Speaker 2 (09:45):
Fi Oh sure, sure, yeah. I just mean in general,
because of the method of production, it has a very
low bar of entry, and that's why we had a
flood of these low budget, low quality found footage films.
I didn't mean to suggest that all movies that are

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in that are low budget, but I mean Cloverfield also,
similar to Blair Witch, had an incredible marketing campaign that
was based largely around mystery, and you could argue that
a lot of that mystery was never revealed or solved.
And to that, I tell you, JJ Abrams.

Speaker 1 (10:25):
Yeah, I still need to watch the third Cloverfield movie,
even though they're sister movies, but they're not necessarily continuations
of each other.

Speaker 2 (10:33):
And it also was a movie, as I understand it,
that was a science fiction film that was not related
to Cloverfield. And then along the way in development, it
was decided, hey, let's tag this on with Cloverfield, and
then they did some reshoots to incorporate a little bit
of Cloverfield lore in there. Honestly, I think ten Cloverfield

(10:54):
Lane was the same way. I don't think it started
off as a Cloverfield movie. Out of the three, I
think ten Cloverfield is the best, Like I think it's
the best made.

Speaker 1 (11:03):
I think it was the most entertaining for sure, because
it was you know, it's still had mystery and it's
still had anxiety and.

Speaker 2 (11:14):
An incredibly dark performance by John Goodman. He was so
terrifying in.

Speaker 1 (11:19):
That movie, so nuanced too, because you were like, yeah,
do I should I hate him? Which is great? You know,
that's the best kind of villain. It's one of the
better villainy villainous performances, Like it's in my top ten
because if a villain has such conviction, you know.

Speaker 2 (11:39):
To the point where, yeah, to the point where you
as a viewer start to question whether or not they're right,
you know.

Speaker 1 (11:45):
That makes for the best story. And I guess that's
also why, like maybe the movies that had the biggest
scary impact on us did is because you know, especially
for stuff like Blair Witch, where the entry was so
low and it really had to rely on the performance
is and so when you have a movie where it
can't fall back on everything else and it has to

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rely on the performances, it makes a bigger impact.

Speaker 2 (12:09):
Yeah, uh, those are those are great, great choices Clorofield
and Blair Witch. I'm pleased with that and interesting about
the Poseidon Adventure and that. Like the other movie that
I thought of that terrified me. The first half terrified me.
The second half did not terrify me was The Descent.

(12:32):
And I think I think The Descent like it's a
it's a great movie. I don't want to give it's
an old movie. I guess I can give spoilers, right,
It's been around forever. The issue I have with The
Descent is the first half of that film is mostly
done as a group of friends who get lost while
they are caving, and just the the claustrophobia and the

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urgency that's in that first half of the movie is
enough to really I can't. I mean, it was like
a knife twisting in me. It was really causing me anxiety,
and I thought was amazing, and it turns out to
be a monster movie, and once the monsters come into it,
it actually like a lot of that tension went away

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from me because that wasn't the part that I thought
was scary. Now. Granted, if you go back knowing it's
a monster movie and you're really paying attention and you're
looking in the corners and stuff, you will see signs
of the monsters earlier in the movie. But because I
didn't know it was a monster movie, I thought it
was a thriller, psychological horror kind of thing, and I'm

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watching it for the cave stuff. I didn't notice any
of the monster stuff until it becomes like hit you
over the head obvious, like, oh, this is what the
movie's about. I didn't notice any of the subtle stuff
at all. It was not until I watched like a
making of that I even saw it. But I was like, oh, man,
I really like this movie. And I still like the movie.

(14:03):
It's still a good movie. It just I wish I
had gotten a version of The Descent where there weren't
any monsters. The monsters would have been some of the
characters involved in the story, because they you find out
that some of them have done some bad things leading
up to the film, and that to me would have

(14:25):
been more interesting.

Speaker 1 (14:27):
That makes sense. I had to make sure that I
was thinking of the right movie because when you said
the Descent, I thought of The Abyss.

Speaker 2 (14:34):
Different movie.

Speaker 1 (14:35):
Yeah, is a different movie and not very scary. There's
some tense moments and.

Speaker 2 (14:39):
Some watching that rat is kind of sad. It's scary
where they they they're using the liquid oxygen stuff and
they're proving it with the rat and I'm like, that's
not cool because apparently they really did that to a rat.
And I'm like, no, no.

Speaker 1 (14:56):
That's what is it? Is it an apocalypse now where
there's a hou scene that I'm.

Speaker 2 (15:00):
Like, no, yeah, yeah, nope, nope.

Speaker 1 (15:03):
I don't do that. I don't do And this is
why I don't like watching animal movies because like, even, yeah,
I know nowadays that h working conditions if they use
a real animal are better, but it just affects. It
affects me. I don't like that. Now. I will never
watch the Abyss again.

Speaker 2 (15:26):
Yeah, No, it upset me. When I heard more about it,
I was like, oh no, all right, well, let's talk
about things that we have seen since the last time
we recorded. Two weeks have gone by, Ariel, Have you
finally finished Task Master?

Speaker 1 (15:41):
No, I'm in season Well that's like hard to do
because we're in the middle of a season right now.

Speaker 2 (15:47):
So season twenty, well, I meant watching the old like
the back episodes. Have you finished? Have you made your
way all the way through season series one?

Speaker 1 (15:55):
No, I'm in series four right now. But I am
delighted to say, because I was really worried. So our
friend Kate started at series one and his work working
her way up and I've been working that way backward.
And she had mentioned that people were really angry at
the beginning, and I, you know, I don't do well
with anger sometimes, and so I was really worried that

(16:18):
I was gonna find this show less and less funny.
But absolutely not. I am finding it delightful all the
way back. So series four is quite fun. It has
both Noel Felding and and the original host from Great
British Bake Off Mel. I was like, who wasn't Sue Mel?

(16:41):
And they're absolutely delightful and everybody else is as well.
So No, I haven't finished, but I am still watching that.
We are still watching Venture Brothers though when mighty nine
comes out, I think next week, in the next two weeks,
we are going to switch over to that because oh

(17:02):
my gosh, everything from it looks great. I did finish
the Pit and I loved it, and I'm looking forward
to season two. Like I think one of the reasons
that I like it so much is because even though
they deal with some very dark and some very sad stuff,
because it is a group of people trying to help,
it still feels uplifting in the end, you know. And

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then I'm watching I'm surprised I've watched all that because
I've been doing a lot of like rewatching of the
actual play. I'm in to pull social media clips, which
is fine. It's a good journey for me because I
need to not judge my performances so harshly. And then
I've been watching a lot of Inscription because I had

(17:48):
some friends play it over the holiday, and Tony is
still playing it. I won't play it. It falls a
little too close to animal cruelty to me.

Speaker 2 (18:00):
Really. Yeah, they are low pixel count cards.

Speaker 1 (18:07):
I had the I had the concept described to me
before I watched it, so it's it doesn't It doesn't
bother me so much to watch it, but I don't.
I don't want to put it.

Speaker 2 (18:17):
Would you have issues with Pokemon?

Speaker 1 (18:21):
No, because they just pass out and then they come back.
I don't know why I don't know. I think it's
because the when you describe you have an animal card
and you have to kill it to get its blood
so that you can play other cards, and then one
of them says, please kill me so you can use
my blood. Like that just immediately turned me off as bad.

Speaker 2 (18:42):
And other ones will beg for you not to use them.

Speaker 1 (18:46):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (18:47):
Yeah, it's uh. I like that game. I never did
finish it. I don't think I did anyway, because as
multiple phases, and each phase is very different from what
came before. Yeah, and so that's great, it's a really
interesting risk to take. But in my case, the thing
you don't want to happen happens, which is that the

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player has become enamored of a particular phase and so
when it changes, they're like, oh, well, this isn't what
I wanted to play, And that's kind of what happened
to me. Also, the second phase, I would argue, appeals
to a generation of players behind me, like just one
generation behind, because I would think that it kind of

(19:30):
appeals to like the early Nintendo generation of players. Well
that's a little younger than I am, so not by much,
but a little bit. So Yeah, anyway, it's a good game.
Well for me. I saw a play called Covenant, and

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I can say that if Covenant is ever being performed
in your area, it is well worth a watch. It
is a horror play set in the nineteen thirties in
a small town in Georgia with a black community. Five actors,

(20:13):
four actresses, one actor, and minimal staging. Like they had
like a sideboard hutch kind of thing in the back,
and they had like a table set that would slide
out noiselessly. All the technical stuff of this play. I
have no idea how they did it. I mean, I
was two rows back, I could see, and it's a

(20:37):
small theater that we were in. I could see everything,
and the whole time I'm like, how'd they do that? Though?
Like the table and chairs would slide out on a
platform noiselessly, The back drop would split apart, the table
and chairs would slide in from backstage. The back would

(20:58):
come back together to four the backdrop that you're looking at,
and then the actors would come on and set the
table the chairs around the table, and then at the
end they would put the chairs back on the little
platform and it would slide back noiselessly. Again to the
point where sometimes if something was going on far stage left,
the table would be set stage right, you wouldn't even

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have noticed it come out because you're paying attention to
what's happening. That's how quiet it was. And I was
just amazed by that. And there's moments of supernatural horror
in it, so stuff goes flying around like a like
a Poultrigeist kind of thing. And again, I'm sitting two
rows back. I don't see any fishing line, I don't

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see anything like I have no idea how they did it.
And the last moment of the play, not to spoil anything,
was incredibly effective and horrifying, and I loved it so much.
It also it's also very calm, implicated play because it's
got a lot of different elements of horror in it.

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There's supernatural horror, religious horror, family trauma. There's they borrow
from the storyline of you know, a guitarist meets the
devil and does a deal in order to be better
at playing music. That's an element in the story, but
highly recommended. If Covenant is ever being performed in your area,

(22:28):
it's sold out for the last couple of performances here
in Atlanta. Yeah, yeay, but yeah, yeah. I was just like,
I'm so glad I had the chance to see it,
and it was one of those people might know I
have issues motivating myself to get out of the house,

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and this was one of the nights where I was.
It almost didn't happen, but I'm so glad it did.
The other thing I saw this week was the stard
Valley Symphony of Seasons. This is where an orchestra plays
music from the Starduo Valley game and my wife and
I we went to see this at the fabulous Fox

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Theater in downtown Atlanta, and they were using vocal musicians.
So the way this show works is the conductor they
contract local musicians to come together, and the conductor works
with them to practice all the pieces and then they
perform it like essentially that night. So we saw it

(23:37):
and it was phenomenal. Everyone. The musicians were all amazing,
the music was great, the crowd was so into it.
It was a lot of fun. Although when it came
to voting for your favorite character, the one I voted
forgot third place.

Speaker 1 (23:58):
Sad. Yeah, I was supposed to go to the Fox
this weekend, but my show got rescheduled.

Speaker 2 (24:06):
Oh yeah, I was going to.

Speaker 1 (24:08):
See Taylor Tomlinson and she's sick, so see you're in
February instead.

Speaker 2 (24:12):
Well, I'm sorry to hear that she's sick, and I'm
glad that she's able to get a new date.

Speaker 1 (24:17):
Me too. I was originally like, well, that's okay. Running
Man comes out this week and I'll go see that
instead it comes out next week.

Speaker 2 (24:25):
Yeah. I've heard early takes from people who saw like
the early screening say that it's a really fun watch.
So that sounds cool, like it's a fun time in
the theater.

Speaker 1 (24:37):
Which is nice because this story that it's based on
is good, but not as fun.

Speaker 2 (24:44):
Yeah, I'm curious if they changed the ending because the
ending of the story it's a Stephen King story, so
guess what. In fact, it's not just a Stephen King story.
I think that was when one he wrote under his
pen name Richard Bachmann, which he once described as Stephen
King without a Conscience. So guess what. It does not
have a happy ending, And I don't know if the

(25:05):
movie does or not. If it does have a happy ending,
I think I'm going to be a little disappointed, but.

Speaker 1 (25:11):
I know they have made some changes to the ending,
but I don't know what.

Speaker 2 (25:15):
Yeah, it may turn out that everything is fine at
the end, will Yeah, I mean, I'm still I'm sure
I'll still enjoy it. Goodness knows. The Arnold Schwarzenegger version
of Running Man was almost unrecognizable compared to the story.

Speaker 1 (25:30):
Yeah, however, like I could go see Predator bad Lands
this weekend if I want to do something geeky. The
friends that we have that have seen it so far
have liked it, so that's good. And Crispy Crispy and
a couple other people, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (25:48):
Chrispy sees movies before they've been made.

Speaker 1 (25:52):
Yes, Yes. And then Pluribis comes out today, and everybody
who listens knows that I'm excited about that.

Speaker 2 (25:57):
So I've also heard good advance stuff about that as well.

Speaker 1 (26:02):
Oh good, so I haven't heard anything. So that's that's
delightful to hear.

Speaker 2 (26:06):
All right, Well, since we're coming up on the thirty
minute mark, let's let's start the show. Let's this is
I say, I joke because this is where we typically
would start the show back in the olden days, where
we first introduced the segment that you and I both love.
We call it stuff that should not take us very

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long to talk about, so we do it as quickly
as we possibly can, one after the other. That's what
the segment's name is.

Speaker 1 (26:33):
Is the most concise name I've ever heard.

Speaker 2 (26:36):
Yep, so I will go first, I believe, Uh yes, Okay,
here we go. I was excited when Conjuring Last Rites
came out, not because I like the Conjuring films, because
I don't really like them, but because it would mean
the last time the Warrens, who were real life demonologists
and in my opinion, con artists, would appear on screen.

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Except now. Variety reports there's a Conjuring prequel in the works,
which makes sense from a financial standpoint, I suppose, but
there's not a ghost of a chance you'll find me
watching it.

Speaker 1 (27:14):
Sad news maybe for Doctor who fans. It is leaving
Disney Plus, but BBC is continuing, will be continuing to
make the show so after after it comes back with
its Christmas special, and then I guess the spin off
the War between Land and See, that'll be it for
Disney Plus, but they will be continuing the show.

Speaker 2 (27:36):
Fifty years ago, a film adaptation of the Rocky Horror
Show Hits cinemas, and now we're getting another sequel in
the form of a four issue comic Slasha graphic novel
titled Bride of Rocky Horror. Now I say another sequel
because there's actually a movie called Shock Treatment that's sort
of kind of a sequel, and I actually like it
more than Rocky Horror. But anyway, this new story follows

(27:58):
Janet Weiss seven years after the events of the Rocky
Hour Picture Show, and the project has already funded on
Kickstarter with a dozen days left to go in the campaign.

Speaker 1 (28:10):
Doctor stur Berkowitz passed away at the early age of
sixty four, I believe sixty four to sixty five, which
is making news because he had a giant collection of
classic classic TV memorabilia, which has all been auctioned off

(28:32):
by Heritage Auctions. I think the top grossing thing was
Batman and Robin outfits from the Adam West Show that
went for five hundred and seventy five thousand dollars.

Speaker 2 (28:44):
Holy Batpans Robin. What happens when you mix mercenaries, sharks,
a time loop, and Keanu Reeves? Well, apparently you get
a high concept sci fi film called Shiver, which Warner
Brothers is in talks to acquire and produce. I Shore
wrote the script, which we'll see Reeves as a smuggler
who finds himself caught between mercenaries and sharks while he

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is stuck in the time loop, because time loops are
still a thing.

Speaker 1 (29:13):
We talked about JJ Abrams a little bit earlier and
how we don't always get a good explanation. Well, just
like that, we're not getting a Star Trek for by
jj Abrams. It has dropped that while there are more
Star Trek movies in the works, they will be using
a different cast, which also makes sense because those actors
have gone on two wonderful things and now have a
higher asking price. But hey, we might get a Star

(29:36):
Trek Year one spin off with the great actors from
Strange New Worlds, which I would love to see them
in some movies.

Speaker 2 (29:43):
James Tinny in the Fourth and wurther dell Edeedra have
created a horror comic titled Something Is Killing the Children, which,
as far as titles go, is quite the doozy. Blumhouse
has now optioned the film rights to that work, with
plans to create both films and TV sit He's based
off the property the TV series is said to be animation,

(30:03):
while the film would be live action. The story follows
a town plagued by children munching monsters and the weird
heroine who shows up to fight them.

Speaker 1 (30:13):
What an interesting concept. Have kids who eat monsters?

Speaker 2 (30:17):
No? No, no, no children munching? I saw a man
eating lettuce.

Speaker 1 (30:23):
Ooh that's scary. Okay, we're getting another Miami Vice movie.
And I say that because we got one in two
thousand and circs with Jamie Foxx and Colin Ferrell. Now
it's going to be Austin Butler and Michael B. Jordan.
I do like that care up. I think they'll do
a good job with it. I just don't know if

(30:43):
we'd need a little bit more time before another Miami
Vice movie.

Speaker 2 (30:47):
What twenty years isn't enough.

Speaker 1 (30:50):
God, it's been twenty years.

Speaker 2 (30:52):
You said two thousand and six. It'll be twenty twenty
six by the time this.

Speaker 1 (30:56):
The show was in the eighties, So.

Speaker 2 (30:58):
I guess it means that every twenty years we'll get
another Miami Vite.

Speaker 1 (31:01):
I guess. I guess so.

Speaker 2 (31:03):
All right, Well, after plenty of rumors, news broke this
week that Warner Brothers has added Grimlins three to its
release schedule in twenty twenty seven. Chris Columbus, who wrote
the first film, will direct it. This makes me sad
because I would like to see Joe Dante direct all
three of the Gremlins movies, and I really would love
Gremlins three to be as different from the first two

(31:23):
films as Grimlins two was to the first Grimlins. But
I suspect we're gonna get something more in line with
the original movie, which is not necessarily a bad thing.
I just I like the fact that the Gremlins movies
don't resemble each other very much.

Speaker 1 (31:38):
Yeah, maybe we'll get something completely different. I just hope
it's not a truly terrifying Krimlins movie. But on from
Grimlins to Demons. We will be getting a K Pop
Demon Hunters two movie coming out in twenty twenty nine.
That is feels like forever away, but it's only like
a three and a half four year break, and we

(31:59):
know that the studio behind it likes to take their
time to put out a good product, so I'm okay
with that.

Speaker 2 (32:05):
This week's say what news item for me at least
is that Jennifer Lawrence, Emma Stone, and Cole Escula are
collaborating on a film all about everyone's favorite diva, Miss Piggy.
Escola is writing the film and Stone and Lawrence are
producing it. And apparently the idea that started it all
was one if Miss Piggy got canceled. Lawrence says, that's

(32:27):
not necessarily the plot of this film, but it did
get the ball rolling, which I think is meat.

Speaker 1 (32:33):
And lastly, yes, lastly, Scrubs. We knew that they were
getting a revival, reboots, sequel something, and they've started production.
There is a little video dropped on TikTok and let
me tell you, I love Scrubs fans because it is
a common thing in Hollywood for people to say, hey,
guys look great and these girls have aged. But everybody

(32:56):
who's been commenting on the video have said that Sarah
Chockey and g D Rays don't look like they've aged
a day, and I kind of like they do. Well, one,
they do look great, and two I love that there's
that support for age, for women being able to get
older without quote unquote aging in Hollywood. Zach Braff, though
he has aged at least in the little video.

Speaker 2 (33:20):
And Hooch is crazy. Yes, I was a little sad
that the because I did watch the little video. I
was a little sad that they did not use I
Am Superman or I'm No Superman rather as the music
in the background, because I you know, that show introduced
me to that song, and I love that song. It's

(33:42):
just a fun little like any any pop song that
incorporates banjo, I'm like, I'm predisposed to at least give
it a listen. Yeah, well, now we're going into the
stuff what we put in our show. Though it's not genre,
but here is any way because we have things to
say about it. Segment.

Speaker 1 (34:03):
Some of these are genre ish, like.

Speaker 2 (34:06):
I moved some of them around, but yeah, like there's
one in particular that a couple maybe that you could
argue are are close. But first up, we have and
I'm going to say this carefully because the title was
made in such a way as to be almost a
pun of a very rude thing to say, Facam Hall, which.

Speaker 1 (34:27):
I didn't notice until you just said it, because you're
reading it.

Speaker 2 (34:31):
You didn't notice that it Yeah, if you say it quickly,
and yeah.

Speaker 1 (34:36):
No I didn't. Okay, all right, yes, uh Thackham Hall,
which is uh if Downton Abbey and scary movie had
a Baby.

Speaker 2 (34:47):
Or if you're older, maybe Downton Abbey and Airplane or
Downton Abbey and the Naked Gun.

Speaker 1 (34:55):
Yeah, I guess. I guess. The the humor is the
humor sensibility is closer to Airplane or Naked Gun than
to a scary movie. It looks like there's a little
more thought than just reference.

Speaker 2 (35:06):
Yeah, it's it's framed as a murder mystery at an
estate owned by a family called the Davenports. And you
have like your your stock character, the investigator from Scotland
Yard who comes into too look into this murder. And

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it's written by Jimmy Carr, who also has a small
role as a vicar in the movie. What did you
think about this?

Speaker 1 (35:42):
I I'm always hit or miss on his historical pieces
that are modern as well, like Bridgerton is another example
of things that I'm iffy on on whether it'll hit
for me. Yeah, this one, the humor doesn't feel like
it's conceptually I like it. The humor all felt a

(36:05):
little missing to me.

Speaker 2 (36:08):
I feel very much the same way, like this is
set in the nineteen thirties, but it's got a very
kind of modern sensibility. As you point out like it's
you know, people are behaving in ways that are outside
of what you would expect in a nineteen thirties era story.
But that's part of the joke, right, And it is

(36:29):
about kind of giving that farcical spoof sort of approach
to Downton Abbey or other period pieces that are produced
out of England and to treat it kind of like
a Zucker Brothers movie, like Airplane or Top Secret or
Naked Gun or any of those things. Yeah, I felt

(36:51):
like a lot of the stuff kind of was a
miss for me.

Speaker 1 (36:55):
Maybe we've just been ruined by working at the Renaissance
Festival for so long.

Speaker 2 (36:58):
I think part of it is that there's a disconnect
in my head between the dry English humor and the
zany joke approach of a Zucker Brothers movie.

Speaker 1 (37:10):
Yeah. Yeah, for sure. It might be one of those
ones that I'll watch if it's on a streaming network
I have and I have nothing better to do in
an afternoon. Uh.

Speaker 2 (37:23):
This, however, does come out on a special date, and
aerel I want you to remember this date because when
I ask you about a date, you're gonna have to
tell me December fifth. Okay, I just remember December fifth.
If I ask you, what's that date again, you say
December fifth? All right, okay, we're going to practice. What's

(37:45):
that date again?

Speaker 1 (37:47):
December fifth?

Speaker 2 (37:48):
There you go. So that's when this movie comes out
next time, all right.

Speaker 1 (37:53):
Dead Man's Wire. This one is based on a true
story about a guy who takes somebody hostage in a bank, right.

Speaker 2 (38:02):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's it's it's a dramatization of a
story that was actually told in a documentary film called
dead Man's Line. And the reason why it's called dead
Man's Line and dead Man's Wire in the first place
is the kidnapper Tony Curatus Curtis. He wired up a

(38:26):
shotgun to his hostage's head so that if the hostage
tried to run away, or if someone tried to pull
Tony away from the gun, or if someone were to
shoot him, there was a wire that went from the
head of his hostage to the trigger of the shotgun,
and the shotgun would fire. So it's a dead man's switch, right,

(38:49):
It's the idea that the switch will be activated if
the person holding the thing were to let go for
whatever reason.

Speaker 1 (38:58):
It looks. I mean, it is one of the things
that I think fits the least into our lineup. It
looks well done. The reason that I included it as
in things that don't really fit is because it has
a cat. It has a pretty geeky cast. Daker Montgomery
who was one of the kids in Stranger Things season two,

(39:20):
the villainous kid al Pacino, Bill Scarsguard who was the
clown in it, Carrie Elwis from Princess Brian and Saw
and Ella Enchanted, Coleman Domingo who is going to be
in The Running Man, and a bunch of others. So like,
what an interesting cast for this story.

Speaker 2 (39:39):
Yeah, and and again it's based off something that really
did happen. The actual the actual story behind all this
is fascinating. The guy it wasn't like he was just
taking a hostage to take a hostage. He had fallen
behind on mortgage payments. He was asking his broker to
give him an extension. The broker refused. The guy believed

(40:00):
that the broker was actually trying to get hold of
his land because the value of the land was going up.
So like, there was this whole thing about a guy
feeling like he was being pushed around by a system,
despite the fact that he was working very hard and
trying to do the right thing, and then he kind
of snaps. Like the actual case had him being found

(40:22):
not guilty by reason of insanity. It was a really
wild story. The fellow passed away several years ago. Now
I think he was like seventy two or something when
he passed away. But yeah, it looks like a well
made movie telling a story that I'm sure a lot
of people have forgot about, even though that documentary came

(40:44):
out in twenty eighteen, Like it wasn't that long ago. Yeah,
this comes out January ninth.

Speaker 1 (40:50):
Sometimes real life is just as interesting or strange as fiction,
so that is true. Next, we have a trailer for
tinsel Town, Yeah, which feels like a sister sequel to Scrooged.

Speaker 2 (41:04):
To me, it's it's odd. It feels like it's two
different subgenres of comedy being smashed together, larger or drunk
glider style. I'm gonna be saying that a lot. Yeah,
it's a It's a film in which an actor who
has alienated everyone in Hollywood can't get work in film anymore,

(41:25):
so his agent sends him to England to act in
a pantomime Christmas play and so it's sort of fish
out of water. There's that element, right, But then there's
also you find out he's kind of a deadbeat dad
and he's sort of reuniting with his daughter, his young daughter,

(41:47):
she's a child and learning what it is to be
an actual dad, and that like he finds joy in
this relationship now. So it's it's got a little bit
of the Christmas happy fun time feeling, you know, broken
family mending itself kind of thing. Plus Hollywood actor just
completely out of place in an English pantomime thing.

Speaker 1 (42:11):
I mean, it does it having a very young daughter.
At first, I was like key for Sutherland's fifty eight,
but that does fit with a lot of like there
are a lot of older actors. There are a lot
of actors who have children at a later age because
they spend their early years developing their career.

Speaker 2 (42:27):
Right. Yeah. I also had I had a hard time
recognizing Keefer Sutherland at first when I was watching this,
I was like, I feel like I should know who
this actor is, but I can't tell who it is.
And then later on like it kind of looks like
Keefer Sutherland, and then when it was revealed, like it
is keeper Sutherland I'm like, he looks different to me?

Speaker 1 (42:46):
Now, yeah, he he doesn't look bad it is. At first,
I was also like, did because Rebel Wilson I think
plays the romantic interest? And I was like, is she
like thirty? Because that would bother me. She's forty five.
That's an okay, age difference. Let you get to those ages.

Speaker 2 (43:06):
It's fine. Guess what date? This movie comes out on?

Speaker 1 (43:12):
December fifth?

Speaker 2 (43:13):
There you go.

Speaker 1 (43:15):
Yay, did we talk about what did? What Man's Wire comes.

Speaker 2 (43:19):
Out January ninth? Yeah? I mentioned?

Speaker 1 (43:21):
Okay, yeah, yeah, okay, yeah, okay. Next we have a
trailer for one hundred Nights of Hero Yeah.

Speaker 2 (43:27):
Wait, this could have fit in our lineup kind of
because it's more of a historical fantasy fantasy but light
on fantasy, and it's not like talking about magic or
anything like that. But it is based off a graphic novel.
Oh interesting, which in turns that graphic novel was based

(43:49):
off Arabian Nights.

Speaker 1 (43:51):
So oh okay, I didn't know that. It is about
a woman who's discontent in her marriage and her husband
talks with his man's or somebody else one of his
friends and says, hey, if you can seduce my wife
in one hundred nights, you can have my house and
her and everything else.

Speaker 2 (44:09):
Yeah, it's essentially like like haughty, snooty husband who has
nothing to do with his wife is testing her fidelity
and he puts he puts this this dude bro friend
of his in charge of attempting to seduce her. Meanwhile,
the wife, who of course has no idea about this arrangement,

(44:30):
is wondering what she has done to alienate her husband
who doesn't want anything to do with her, and is
also kind of finding the female maid a little intriguing.
So there's like there's like some queer storytelling going on
here too, so makes it a little more complicated.

Speaker 1 (44:50):
And the title one hundred Nights of Hero. The maid
servant's name is Hero. I think the wife's name is Cherry,
and it's it's the maid servant telling the wife a
story every night to kind of protect her from this
plot going on. Yeah, so uh interesting.

Speaker 2 (45:06):
Guess when it comes out Ariel.

Speaker 1 (45:11):
December. That's correct, My goodness, how am I going to
pick between Dinseltown one hundred Nights of heroin.

Speaker 2 (45:23):
Fh hall Uh, don't get ahead of yourself. We've got
a lot more show to get through. However, the next
the next one we're talking about, which is a Tropia,
does not come out on December fifth. I will say
that right at the front.

Speaker 1 (45:39):
Yeah, this is a weird like political comment commentary comedy
about two people who fall in love who are cast
in a war simulation reenactment sort of a thing.

Speaker 2 (45:53):
Yeah, it's supposed to be a recreation of like a
Middle Eastern village and it's peopled by improvisational actors who
are playing villagers or insurgents or whatever, and army units
trained there before they are deployed in the actual Middle East.
And Aliah Shawkat is playing one of the actors. She's

(46:15):
trying desperately to become a legitimate actress, but at the
time being she's got work in this a Tropia simulation thing.
The town also has like an affects crew that's there
to try and make different things happen, like explosions and
stuff to simulate wartime events. So there's some comedy. It's

(46:38):
a little bit of tropic thunder kind of comedy going
on here. I did see some early takes based off
festival screenings that sadly are kind of at best mixed
mixed to negative. So maybe this one's doesn't quite click

(47:02):
for a lot of people.

Speaker 1 (47:04):
That doesn't surprise me. It is sad because I do
love Alia Shocket a lot.

Speaker 2 (47:09):
Yeah, this one, this one does not come out December fifth.
You'll have to wait seven whole days for it to
come out in December twelfth.

Speaker 1 (47:16):
Oh what fun is the name of our next trailer?

Speaker 2 (47:19):
There you go. I saw this and then I was like,
I'm gonna have to add it to the list. I
don't want to add it to the list, but I
kind of have to because it charmed me.

Speaker 1 (47:35):
Yeah, so you know it is. It is interesting because
we add a lot of horror stuff, but when we
get to the holidays, we do try to cherry pick
interesting Christmas holiday type movies.

Speaker 2 (47:49):
Yeah, because there's just so many cooky cutter Yeah yeah, yeah.
A lot of them follow, like the Hallmark movie formula,
right and Ariel, I hope you do get a chance
to go see y'all Mark when it's playing later in
your neck of the woods later this month, because that's
all about, you know, pointing out and making fun of

(48:09):
the formula that Hallmark and to a great extent, Netflix
holiday movies follow. This one is a little different, and
it also was co written and directed by Michael Showalter.
He I know him best as a member of the
State Sketch Comedy group from back in the nineties, but

(48:31):
he also you know, he's written a lot of other comedies,
including Wet Hot American Summer. This, I would argue, feels
like it's the most mainstream of his comedy. Like a
lot of his comedies kind of appeal to a niche
comedy audience, this one, I feel is has more mainstream appeal.

Speaker 1 (48:49):
I agree. This This story is about a mom. She's
an older mom. It's played by Michelle Pfeiffer, and the
dad is Dennis Leary who does so much for her
kids and just feels like she never gets the recognition.
And so she asks her kids to submit her to
a best mom competition for the holidays, and they forget,

(49:09):
and so she goes and she goes on an adventure
by her own and it looks Yeah, it just looks
like a lot of fun and very relatable.

Speaker 2 (49:18):
Yeah yeah, like like her. She's she's busy getting her
whole family out the door so they can go to
a holiday music performance thing. And in the process of
getting them out the door, they forget her and leave
her behind, and that's when she's just had enough and
she says, you know what, I'm submitting myself to this
time alone, to this exactly as a reversed home alone.

(49:40):
And she decides that she's going to go to this
Oprah like show. Uh, it's it's it's very obviously inspired
by Oprah uh play with the host playing being played
by Eva Longoria, and that she's going to go there
and have her own Christmas fun, leaving her family lay behind.

(50:00):
And of course her family totally freaks out not knowing
where she's gone because they never talked to her properly.

Speaker 1 (50:06):
Yeah, this cast is insane beyond just Michelle Pfeiffer and
Eva Longoria and Dennis Leary. It's got Chloe Grace Moritz,
who I believe was Hit Girl.

Speaker 2 (50:15):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (50:17):
It's got Felicity Jones, Danielle Brooks, who is in who
is it was in? Peacemaker, Maud Apatoe, Jason Schwartzman, Rose Abdu,
who I absolutely love, Yeah, mainly, mainly mainly I love
her from Gilmore. Girl's gonna be real, honest.

Speaker 2 (50:35):
Uh, this it looks fun. It looks like a fun
movie like I don't normally go for these kind of films,
like they're just not my thing usually, but this trailer
I was like, you know, I could watch this. I
think I like watching a movie about a mom who
is clearly the glue and the engine that makes the

(50:55):
family work, just being finally like you know what, screw
all of you, I'm doing this for me. I'm like,
you do do that? Do that thing?

Speaker 1 (51:05):
Yeah. Yeah, there's a great bit in the trailer where
she was like, I just want my kids to say
those three words, and even long Grey is like I
love you. She's like, no, let me help.

Speaker 2 (51:16):
Yeah. I also like the bit about where so it
was like I can't decide if she's iconic or a
train wreck, and two of the women go iconic iconic.

Speaker 1 (51:24):
Yeah. It feels like and obviously we haven't watched the movie,
but it does feel like while she is doing this
for herself, she's not just abandoning her family forever, you know,
and self care is important and so I love I
love it. I'm and I like the state and I
like stuff that the people from the state have done.
So I'm excited.

Speaker 2 (51:42):
Yeah, and this comes out December third, so two days
before everything else comes out. Uh yeah, and it comes
out on Prime Video, so you can watch it on
Prime Video starting December third.

Speaker 1 (51:54):
I have that one. Okay. The next trailer looks a
little less fun to me. It's for a movie called
The Two Testament of Ann Lee.

Speaker 2 (52:01):
Yeah, so this is telling the story of a real
historic personage and Lee. She was the founder of the
Shaker's religious movement. And Shakers are very similar to Quakers,
like they're pacifists and they believe in gender equality and
community and lots of really upstanding things. But the Shakers

(52:23):
were also known for incorporating vocalizations, singing and dancing and
shaking in their religious practices, in the belief that through
those actions you were shedding sin that you had been accumulating,
and that this was part of, you know, like the

(52:43):
religious experience. So this is a dramatization of a real person.
Amanda Sefried is playing and Lee, and according to what
I've been seeing coming from like the various festivals where
this is played, it's her best performance to date. And
the movie itself looks really well made, Like it's not

(53:06):
super colorful. Everything's pretty dark and muted, but it looks
like the camera work and the choreography look really intense,
and I thought, wow, this is someone I don't know
much about. I am not that familiar with the Shakers,
so seeing this made me intrigued.

Speaker 1 (53:29):
Yeah, neither am I like I looked a little bit
into them. It's also they were Celibacy was a core
tenant of Shaking.

Speaker 2 (53:37):
Yes, that's good.

Speaker 1 (53:38):
Didn't mean they didn't have families, but they had communal families,
and they would adopt, which is really just interesting.

Speaker 2 (53:44):
And they would raise children to the age of adulthood
and then give them as adults the option of either
leaving the community or staying and being part of it.
So the idea was that people would have the freedom
of choice whether they stayed or if they left to
go find a life somewhere else. Although you could argue

(54:06):
that indoctrination and lots of other elements kind of makes
that a lot more complicated because not everything is black
and white.

Speaker 1 (54:12):
Yeah. Yeah, and you know, I don't I don't necessarily
believe that not being celibate is a source of sin, so,
you know, as a person of faith. So it is,
it is interesting, It is, it is super interesting. I
don't I say it doesn't look fun, but it does
look very well done. It might be something that I

(54:33):
watch at some point.

Speaker 2 (54:34):
Yeah, this I would be seeing this as an intellectual exercise.
I think like this, this is not something that I
would think of as entertainment, but rather to enlighten myself
and learn more about a people and a time of
history that I'm not as familiar with.

Speaker 1 (54:52):
Yes, for sure, guess.

Speaker 2 (54:53):
When it comes out.

Speaker 1 (54:55):
December third, fifth, December fifth, thirteenth fifth.

Speaker 2 (54:59):
Don't don't mess aroun on the aeril you have one
job on this? You say December fifth.

Speaker 1 (55:03):
When I asked you, I wish I had one job.
I wish my only job was.

Speaker 2 (55:07):
On said I said, on this, which is not true.

Speaker 1 (55:13):
I don't want to give up acting to just remember
the date December.

Speaker 2 (55:16):
Fifth, right, But that is when this stares out.

Speaker 1 (55:18):
Remember remember the fifth of December.

Speaker 2 (55:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (55:23):
The last thing and stuff that doesn't fit vaguely does
because it's it's Western, that's geek adjacent is for Frontier
Crucible starring William H. Macy.

Speaker 2 (55:36):
Well, he's in it. He plays a supporting character. No,
it's starring Thomas Jane. But it also has a problematic
to put it lately, actor in it. This is the
the triumphant return to acting for One Army Hammer, whom
you may remember, back in twenty twenty one was the
subject of multiple allegations from multiple women who said that

(56:00):
he assaulted them, and he kind of went without work
for quite some time, and now he's back in this film,
which I'm not here to judge the filmmakers for this
decision or whatever I will say. I initially had high
hopes because I saw it was one of the producers
with someone who was a producer on a movie called

(56:21):
Bone Tomahawk. Bone Tomahawk is a Western horror movie, and
it is intense and disturbing, and it has your major
ick in it, Ariels. It is not a movie you
would you should ever ever even consider watching. Yeah, No,
it's it has one of your absolute nos in it.
If I said, what's eating you, it would make sense.

(56:44):
So in this grape in Yeah, In this Gilbert Grape
is eating you. Leonardo DiCaprio is eating you. Yeah. But
this is this is a an adaptation of a novel
that came out in nineteen sixty one, and I would
argue you it feels like that in the sense of
it feels like a depiction of the mythos of the

(57:06):
cowboy as we as we imagined it back in the
nineteen sixties, right, Like, it has that very kind of
like stoic, implacable, capable hero character who's got a dark past,
like all that kind of stuff. But the basic plot

(57:28):
is this soldier is hired to escort a wagon full
of medical supplies to an area that's going to require
crossing dangerous territory that's mostly inhabited by Native Americans who
are understandably upset that all of their land keeps getting taken,

(57:48):
and so they also encounter some bandits along the way.
It becomes kind of a survival story and also who
can trust whom sort of thing. But just the fact
that Army hammers in this tells me that I am
not going to see it because I just don't want
to support work that he's part of, not judging anyone
who does. Like, if Westerns are your thing, and this
really sounds interesting to you, check it out, maybe it's

(58:09):
something you really want to see. I just think it
looks a little too simplistic, and uh, it has someone
I don't like in it. And it comes out December fifth.

Speaker 1 (58:20):
Yes, December fifth, I will say I I don't follow
follow Army Hammer enough to recognize him, so I didn't
recognize that. So thank you for pointing it out. That
is all we have for stuff what mostly kind of
don't fit. Also, I love the note that you put
for Frontier Crucible where you're like trigger warnings, sp spider cruelty,

(58:41):
aeriel because wow, what a way to give me two
conflicting emotions at the same time, because I hate spiders,
but I hate animal cruelty as well.

Speaker 2 (58:51):
Yeah, I didn't think you wanted to watch someone tearing
the legs off of Tarantula.

Speaker 1 (58:56):
No, but I did watch this trailer. I almost put
it into the lineup and and I didn't so, but
I just thought it was funny.

Speaker 2 (59:05):
Yeah. I also thought the color grading of this trailer
was weird, like everything looked artificial to me. Yes, technicolor yeah, yeah,
like really saturated. Anyway, we now move into the playful
little segment called John Boys Horror Hutch, and as always,
I will ask my beloved co host Ariel did you

(59:25):
watch any of these trailers?

Speaker 1 (59:26):
No? I didn't have time. Yeah, it was a weird
week for me, and so I did a lot of
catch up and I was like I'll just skip these.

Speaker 2 (59:37):
Yeah, you could have probably watched all three of these.
I will say that the middle one, well not a
horror movie, was particularly violent and gory and might have
been the hardest one for you to watch, and the
other two are horror movies and you would have been fine.
But starting off, we have portraits of the Apocalypse. This
is another foreign horror film that it was made in

(01:00:00):
Argentina and it's the story of a zombie outbreak, because
those are still big and horror stories. I guess a
zombie outbreak that happens in Buenos Aires. There are like
four intertwining stories that are playing out during this time
of zombie apocalypse. And that's all the information I really have.

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There's not really a release date listed with the trailer.
This is a movie that was acquired by Black Mandala,
which I think it's out of New Zealand, but it's
a company that has been buying up a lot of
foreign horror movies, especially low budget foreign horror movies, for distribution.

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And I will say the quality of movies represented by
Black Mandala covers a pretty wide spectrum. It kind of
makes me think of Blumhouse, where you occasionally get a
really good movie out of Blumhouse, but you also get
a lot that are not as good, you know, that
feel like it feels like they were maybe part of

(01:01:06):
a deal, like hey, buy six and you get this
movie for free. But we'll see, Like this one looks
like it's okay, does look low budget, but the trailer
also was fairly no pun intended bare bones. Next we
have a trailer for a French film called Reflection in

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a Dead Diamond. This is technically a thriller, not a
horror movie, but it's extremely violent. It also reminds me
of Italian Jollo movies, but it's really paying tribute to
the spy film genre of the nineteen sixties, like that
over the top like euro film spy film stuff, so

(01:01:52):
not just James Bond, but stuff like Dia Balique and
stuff like that. So it follows a retired spy, and
retired spy has like a next door neighbor or roommate
or something that reminds him of his past, so he
is reflecting on his spy adventures from his youth, and

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then other stuff is happening where you get the feeling
like the actions of his past are now having consequences
in his present and he has to deal with them.
This is the one that was super duper violent. Also
has a lot of very trippy kind of imagery and
camera tricks and lighting and that stuff. So it feels

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like it came out of the six late sixties, like
it has that sort of psychedelic twist to it. Shutter
acquired the distribution rights in North America. It's already played
in France, I believe, but it comes out on Shutter.

Speaker 1 (01:02:47):
On December fifth.

Speaker 2 (01:02:50):
There you are, okay. I was wondering if you're going
to wake up or not? Okay, next up, and.

Speaker 1 (01:02:55):
I was awake. I was looking into the next one.

Speaker 2 (01:02:59):
The last one I had is called Afraid. Question mark
like it actually has a question mark at the end
of the.

Speaker 1 (01:03:05):
Yes I am yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:03:06):
It's also important to have that question mark because I
don't know if you remember this, Aeriel, but last year
we got a movie called Afraid, where the AI was
capitalized because it was the movie about a family where
they have household AI that goes bunkers and tried to
kill them.

Speaker 1 (01:03:22):
Afraid Which one which which movie about AI?

Speaker 2 (01:03:27):
Afraid? It's called Afraid?

Speaker 1 (01:03:31):
Yes, no, I know. It'd had a John Show and
David desmal Chain.

Speaker 2 (01:03:34):
Yes, exactly. Yes, So this one that makes that makes
looking up information about this afraid challenging because you keep
finding stuff from the movie that came out last year,
not for what's coming out this year. But this is
another low budget horror movie. It it follows a trope
that everyone's familiar with. Group of young people go out

(01:03:57):
to party at a cabin in the woods. In this case,
they are playing a game called what Are You Afraid Of?
It's kind of like a truth or Dare style game,
but as they play, it becomes clear someone sinister is
targeting them and is going to enact violence upon them.
It feels like a real throwback. The trailer definitely feels

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like a throwback. There's a narrator doing voiceover on the trailer,
which you know, we don't get that often, but it's saying,
you know, the narrator is saying stuff like the game
started as a joke, now it's life or death, and
you're like, no one does this anymore? What is happening?

(01:04:39):
The sound design seems pretty questionable, like I wouldn't be
surprised to find out they shot this on smartphones, but
maybe they didn't. Maybe it was DSLR cameras or something.
But it's coming to digital streaming and DVD on December sixteenth,
so not getting a theatrical release as far as I
can tell. But it was interesting, which is why I

(01:05:00):
decided to put it into my little horror hutch. And
now I'm done with hutching.

Speaker 1 (01:05:06):
Nice, so we'll exit your little horror hutch and go
into the woods. We're into our actual show notes, and
the first thing we've got to talk about is we
got a first look at Wildwood from Laika Studioslika, Yeahka,
which we've kind we talked about it happening in the
thirty seconds or less in the past, but now we

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get to kind of see what's going on with it.

Speaker 2 (01:05:30):
Yeah Soka. They're known for their stop motion animation, like
Coraline and ParaNorman, that kind of stuff, and Wildwood is
a fantasy film in which a young girl has to
go searching for her baby brother. It's in an area
that's adjacent to like Portland, Oregon, but it takes place

(01:05:54):
in a magical, wooded realm. And the featurette that we
watch was not so much a trailer. It was more
like showing behind the scenes how they were able to
create an important character in the story, a guardian giant eagle,
and the model and puppetry they used to bring that

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character to life. It's incredibly impressive.

Speaker 1 (01:06:20):
It is is Portland a part of the Pacific Northwest? Yes, okay, cool.
So this is a way to take that scary mythical
area and make it a little less scary.

Speaker 2 (01:06:31):
I don't find it scary. I guess if you're afraid
of hipsters.

Speaker 1 (01:06:36):
There's a whole there's a whole bunch of like fictional
podcasts that I've listened to, where like there's a bunch
of weird stuff that happens in the woods up there.

Speaker 2 (01:06:43):
So it's because of all the coffee. Honestly, it's just
you get that caffeinated, you start doing weird stuff in
the woods.

Speaker 1 (01:06:50):
Yeah, yeah, that's probably accurate. Yeah, I think it looks
very interesting. I never watched Coraline or Paranormando. I'm familiar
with bold.

Speaker 2 (01:07:00):
Did you say Cubo in the Two Strings?

Speaker 1 (01:07:03):
I didn't. That is high on my list of things
to watch. I know I need to so watch that.

Speaker 2 (01:07:07):
It's so good.

Speaker 1 (01:07:08):
It hit it a time where I wasn't watching a
lot of a whole lot of stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:07:12):
So sure, I think Coraline is great too. It's got
they might be giant song right smack dab in the
middle of it, so I was guaranteed to love it already.
I like like a stuff. I think that their artistry
is amazing. They tend to pick really good projects, very
imaginative things that suits their art style extremely well. So

(01:07:35):
I'm eager to see more of Wildwood as we get
closer to release, which I don't know when the release is,
by the.

Speaker 1 (01:07:42):
Way, December fifth, No, I have no idea. I'm interested
in this as well. The next trailer we've got is
for Last Samurai Standing, which to me feels like the
Last Sammurai Meet Squid.

Speaker 2 (01:07:56):
Games, Yeah, or Battle Royale something like that. Like it's
a story. Apparently this is based off a manga, so
I was unfamiliar with the manga. I didn't even know
it existed, and I saw this trailer and it looks
like very action packed and well choreographed. The basic story

(01:08:17):
is that you've got this guy who is trying to
provide for his family. He's got a wife and child
and they I think they're both ill, and he enters
into a tournament where each member of the tournament has
a like a wooden tag that they wear, kind of
like a dog tag, and the goal is to collect
the tags of all the other players by any means necessary,

(01:08:42):
which essentially means it just becomes a big slaughter fest.
And the action in this trailer looks incredible.

Speaker 1 (01:08:52):
It does. It looks really good. I like this kind
of a movie. I'm very much looking forward to it.

Speaker 2 (01:08:57):
Yeah, this is a Netflix series. The first episodes drop
on November thirteenth.

Speaker 1 (01:09:04):
I'm sad I missed it as a series. That makes
it even better. Yeah, I'm very excited. The next thing
is this is this is these first three year from
last week? Is the trailer for Scream seven dropped last
week and it it got some hate and I don't
understand it.

Speaker 2 (01:09:23):
I don't either, because I watched it and I thought, oh,
it's a Scream movie.

Speaker 1 (01:09:27):
Yeah exactly. I was like it having watched the first three.
I didn't get to Scream four this year because we
ended up doing inscription, but having watched the first three
Scream movies recently, I'm like, this just feels like another
entry into the the milieu.

Speaker 2 (01:09:44):
Yeah. This the big news about This one was that
Nev Campbell came back to play Sydney right because she
she had been absent due to pay disputes from previous films,
so this was her big return. And she's now a
mom to a teenage daughter, and the ghost Face Killer

(01:10:06):
is now targeting not not ghost Face Killer, but the
ghost Face Killer is targeting both Sydney and her daughter.
You get some bits of Sydney trying to give her
daughter direction so that she can survive being attacked by
this killer. Gail uh, you know. Courtney Cox's character comes

(01:10:29):
back as well. Yeah, and I just thought, oh, it
looks like a scream trailer. I didn't think it looked
particularly good, but I didn't think it looked bad either.
It just it didn't stand out. But it didn't look bad.

Speaker 1 (01:10:44):
Yeah, it didn't. That's I would agree. It didn't stand out,
like there's nothing about it that makes me go, oh,
that's cool and new. But it it looked about as
enjoyable as every other screen movie exception maybe A three,
which is.

Speaker 2 (01:10:57):
Your favorite art Yeah, I yeah, maybe maybe it's just
that it didn't give us enough sense of like the
other scream movies typically have some fun character stuff. And
this trailer really didn't have any moments of That doesn't
mean that it's not in the movie. They're just not
shown in the trailer. But maybe that's part of it,
because like Scream has always had kind of a snarky attitude.

(01:11:18):
The whole thing started off as sort of a dissertation
on the slasher film and dissecting all the different tropes
that you find in slasher movies and while still making
a darn good slasher movie. So maybe that's part of
the problem. Yeah, I mean, I will say, like, I

(01:11:40):
definitely feel like I need to watch the other screen
movies because I think I've only watched up to three.
I feel like I need to watch the other ones
before I try and tackle this one. Anyway, And while
again it doesn't look special, it looks fine. It comes
out February twenty seventh.

Speaker 1 (01:11:55):
Yeah, I will say, I doing it while we're talking
doing a quick cursory look. Some of the hate might
be around the fact that there were some casting changes
due to actors making political commentary.

Speaker 2 (01:12:07):
Yeah, that happened like a movie ago too, though, Like, yeah,
I know what you're talking.

Speaker 1 (01:12:12):
About because it happened in the last movie.

Speaker 2 (01:12:13):
But yeah, I'm pretty sure it was the last film
where that was first happening, and maybe they're upset that
that hasn't reversed.

Speaker 1 (01:12:20):
Course, Campbell came back, Why can't this person.

Speaker 2 (01:12:24):
Yeah, maybe that was the case. Like because Jenna Ortega
was also part of the franchise a little earlier. She's
not back either, And you know, it's a part of
me is thankful because often when characters return, they don't
get to return for very long. This way, they just
get to live.

Speaker 1 (01:12:43):
Yeah, for sure, for sure, we'll see. We'll see if
I can make it to that many scream movies, because
there's so much. I can't believe I'm saying this, so
many other great horror stories that have been coming out
that are interesting and not just there for the shock factor.

(01:13:03):
That like, I am a little bit more into the
horror genre now than I was in the past.

Speaker 2 (01:13:09):
Yeah, if it's a good story. One of the things
I meant to mention is that that when I saw Covenant,
it really made me think of Sinners. But I want
to point out Covenant was written years before Sinners came out, Like,
the first time it was performed was a couple of
years ago in New York, So it's not that it's
not that the playwrights saw Centers and then lifted stuff.

(01:13:30):
It's that both Sinners and Covenant tap into similar themes
and issues, and that was new to me with a
lot of you know, compared to a lot of the
horror I have consumed in my fifty years. So I agree,
there's like we're kind of in a horror renaissance at

(01:13:53):
the moment, which you know, largely was led by people
like Jordan Peel. So I'm I'm very pleased to see
horror movies that have a point of view or something
to say while also scaring the pants off you.

Speaker 1 (01:14:08):
Yeah, yeah, I can't quite do scaring the pants off,
but I can do some Hitchcock level stuff. And there's
a lot of great stuff coming out there too. Next,
we have a trailer for a movie called Resurrection, which
is if it looks it's not the same story, but
it's got like a vibe of if you took everything
everywhere all at once and made it so much more

(01:14:30):
art house.

Speaker 2 (01:14:31):
Yeah, it's a Chinese film. It has got a lot
of dreamlike imagery in it, and I was trying to
figure out how I was going to describe this movie,
and then ultimately I decide I'm just going to quote
the Wikipedia article because I feel like that's going to
make it the easiest. So this is a quote from Wikipedia.

(01:14:51):
It follows Miss Shoe in the future where most of
humanity has lost the capacity to dream, she discovers that
one is human creature is still able to experience dreams.
She enters the monster's dreams, using her ability to perceive
illusions to determine the truth in its visions of Chinese history.
The film is divided into six chapters, with each representing

(01:15:15):
one of the five senses plus the mind. That's the
end quote. So yeah, if you're like, wow, that's weird,
well you need to watch the trailer because the trailer
it's gorgeous, like the again, the shot composition, some of
the little moments in it. I don't think the effects
are all great, but what the effect is going for

(01:15:39):
is fun. Like I'm thinking of the moment with a
lantern and a hand comes in out of frame, and
that little moment in the trailer I thought was delightful.

Speaker 1 (01:15:51):
Yeah, yeah, I it looks so beautiful. We'll see if
I have the emotional bandwidth to watch it.

Speaker 2 (01:16:00):
We'll also see if it ever comes to the United States. Currently,
it is coming out November twenty second in China. Nope,
December tenth in France. So no release date for the
United States that I can find yet.

Speaker 1 (01:16:15):
Let me let me just I have to go on
this quick diet tribe right now. UK has so many
cool stage plays going on that I want to see,
and I'm like, I really hope they come to the
US side. The Paddington Musical looks insanely amazing.

Speaker 2 (01:16:33):
Yeah, the Bear is one incredible achievement.

Speaker 1 (01:16:36):
Yeah, the team behind the bear. It is a person
in a suit that is being puppeteered and voiced by
another person and it's beautiful. There's also a really beautiful
looking rendition of the Lion, the Witch and the wardrobe
that's going around right now. And then there's a third
one and I don't remember what, but I'm just like,
I have to what is it, Ariel, what is it? Oh?

(01:16:59):
My neighbor Totro also gone to the West End and
that also looks amazing.

Speaker 2 (01:17:02):
I was about to say, are you thinking Avenue Q
because that's coming back to the West End.

Speaker 1 (01:17:06):
Oh no, no, that was that was a fun that didn't.

Speaker 2 (01:17:11):
Hold up well, I hear that they have revised the
show a little bit, but that I would argue that
the themes of Avenue Q probably apply even more now
than they did when it first came out.

Speaker 1 (01:17:23):
But maybe it just hurt. The satire hurts a little
bit more.

Speaker 2 (01:17:27):
Well, when when one of the earliest songs says what
do you do with a ba? In English? And that's
the degree I have, I can understand where the pain
can be felt. Yeah, we also got I almost took
this off because we have talked about it before, but
we got a full trailer for now you See Me,
Now you Don't. That's the newest and the Now You

(01:17:48):
See Me franchise. I included it here mostly so I
could be snarky and talk about how this is essentially
The Fast and the Furious, except instead of street racing
at stage.

Speaker 1 (01:18:01):
Yeah, which might appeal to some people. I do love
a good pen in teller fool me episode like I
used to like to try to do sleight of hand
when I was a kid, so doesn't fully unappeal to me.
But the like stage magic, the concept. But the movies
have not appealed to me. I have not seen them,

(01:18:22):
and no I.

Speaker 2 (01:18:22):
Won't yeah, yeah, I don't have any real desire to
see it either. It's I don't think it's I don't
think they're necessarily bad. Movies are just not for me
because having done a little stage magic myself, I just
find it so silly that I can't I can't suspend

(01:18:46):
my disbelief enough for it, right, Like, yeah, you might
as well just say they can actually do magic, because
that's the level these movies are doing, where you're like, yeah, yeah,
even the things that are technically possible here, for them
to work flawlessly in an environment where you don't have
one hundred percent control is like so outside the realm

(01:19:08):
of probability that it might as well be impossible. I
can't get past that, and you have to be able
to do that in order to be able to watch
these movies. This comes out November fourteenth. I guess this
is where I also tell Ariel that from here on out,
we don't have to worry about December fifth. Oh, December
fifth was like all the other stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:19:27):
I have to remember it. No, if I want to
watch it, that's fine. If I want to watch a
magic movie, I'll just go watch The Prestige again. Yeah,
that one was Okay.

Speaker 2 (01:19:36):
There was that other one with Steve Carrell, the comedy
one that I watched once. Simon Pegg was in one.
I think, Yeah, I don't.

Speaker 1 (01:19:44):
Know, Like there's a new movie about Saint Fried and
Roy coming out at some point, if it hasn't already.

Speaker 2 (01:19:49):
Okay, So you have options, is what we're saying. If
you are a filmmaker, you also have options. You could
make a movie using incredibly expensive equipment and a huge crew,
or you could invest in a handheld gimbal, an iPhone
seventeen and a few actors and try and shoot a

(01:20:11):
movie just with that.

Speaker 1 (01:20:14):
Yeah. Sometimes some really cool stuff comes out of some
very small budgets. And this one looks pretty interesting to me.
It's called Blue Harvest. It's the entire Earth stops being
able to speak at some point, all the humans, and
then some years later aliens start abducting them.

Speaker 2 (01:20:36):
Yeah. Yeah, Apparently there's some sort of alien invasion that
either causes or coincides with everyone being unable to speak,
which also makes it a lot easier for you to
shoot a movie without having to worry about hooking people
up for sound when you're shooting it all on an iPhone. Seventeen.

Speaker 1 (01:20:53):
Yeah, yeah, but you need to have some super solid
actors to be able to really convey emotion without any words.
I mean, that's the like going into actor theory. That's
the most interesting part of a film is watching people react.
It's not the words that you say, it's the emotions
that you feel in the way that you react to
what's going on.

Speaker 2 (01:21:13):
So it does make me wonder because, like in their
social posts for Blue Harvest, the filmmakers say that this
was shot in two weeks with just three people using
an iPhone as a camera, And it makes me wonder
if that means all the other people you see in
shots are just people going about their daily lives. And

(01:21:33):
if so, I guess that means they're probably they probably
had to redo the whole soundtrack because otherwise you would
have people talking, and if the premise of your movie
is that no one talks at this point, you can't
have that happen anymore. So I'm wondering what the sound
design on this movie is going to turn out to be.

(01:21:54):
Like the trailer just says that it is coming twenty
twenty six, that does not give a more specific date.
It seems to me more like I mean, maybe it
tells a great story, so I don't want to dismiss it,
but it definitely seems more like a almost like a
challenge or an exercise. So I don't know if it

(01:22:17):
will manifest as a satisfying narrative. But I haven't seen it,
so I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:22:23):
My biggest thing is how knowing timeframes. How long of
a film can it be if they only shot for
two weeks. I actually don't know the answer to that,
but yeah, it'll be I am interested. I hope it
ends up being cool like Blair Witch or District nine.
We'll see. Yeah, the effects that they've shown I don't

(01:22:43):
mind either, So.

Speaker 2 (01:22:44):
Yeah, no, the effects look like pretty good considering especially
if you consider it's a two week shoot. It's amazing
that they were able to put it off.

Speaker 1 (01:22:53):
I mean, I wonder if the two weeks does include
the after.

Speaker 2 (01:22:58):
Well, even so, there's some effects that they must have
done at least something on site, you know, because like, yeah,
there's some effects where it's stuff like like post processing,
but there's some stuff like people lifting off their feet
where you're like, oh, I wonder, I wonder how you
did that, Like you might have just like literally had

(01:23:19):
someone pick someone else up, and it's just that you're
focusing on their feet like a like a like an
internet ne'er do Well, you're looking at the feet.

Speaker 1 (01:23:29):
Well, it is so like I don't have a huge
amount of insight into this, but I did get to
work on a passion project for someone where it was
sci fi and everything was green screened, so there was
a lot of stuff that we had to imagine or
kind of work out with blocking.

Speaker 2 (01:23:46):
Yeah, then it could become a Neil Breen film if
you're not careful.

Speaker 1 (01:23:50):
Yeah, but hey, Predator Badlands use practical effects. El Fanning
was just tied to the guy playing.

Speaker 2 (01:23:59):
The the Predator.

Speaker 1 (01:24:01):
It's his name, Sebastian, the guy playing the I was
trying to remember his name, the guy playing the Predator,
and she just walked backwards. She was like, why can't
Why can't I just walk backwards? It will look more
realistic that way.

Speaker 2 (01:24:12):
I thought you were going to tell me that el
Fanning got herself cut in half and then strapped to
the back of another actor. Yeah, that's hardcore method right there.

Speaker 1 (01:24:21):
No, but I do think it's a cool idea and
I like that they did that, especially since another thing
I read is that the reason why the main characters
face the CGI and said practical effects, because so many
predators in the past have been practical effects. Is when
they did the movie Prey, that head, that puppet head
was like eleven pounds and miserable for.

Speaker 2 (01:24:41):
The actor who wore it well, And like in previous
predator movies, the benefit was the predator's non screened that much. Yeah, right,
Like it's kind of like Jaws, Like the Predator is
this invisible threat that our human characters have to react to.
And and so while the costume in the head might

(01:25:03):
be heavy, the actual filming requirements for that character were
relatively light, just because of the short amount of screen time. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:25:14):
Even in Prey, which I need to watch, really, I've
heard wonderful things and I still want to watch it,
that Predator was only on screen for like under thirty minutes.

Speaker 2 (01:25:23):
Yeah. Well, next up, we've got a featurette on Stranger
Things Tales from eighty five, which is an animated series.
It's supposed to take place between the events of season
two and season three of Stranger Things. And I said,

(01:25:45):
I wasn't at all surprised about this because it's just
like what I was arguing about with the Conjuring series,
where Netflix is like, oh, we've got this big hit,
but people are rapidly aging out of the characters that
they're playing. How do we continue to go use this
to leverage this ip but without the benefit of using

(01:26:07):
the actors that everyone's become accustomed to. And one way
to do that is to have an animated prequel series.

Speaker 1 (01:26:15):
I didn't watch all of it. It's possible they use
the same actors as voice actors. You can aid your
voice younger pretty well.

Speaker 2 (01:26:22):
Yeah, I didn't check to see if they've got the
same folks from the show, But like, you couldn't easily
do Like, there's no way they could do a live
action yeah show that's set between seasons two and three
using the actual act Everyone would be like, why did
they sprout up like and turn old?

Speaker 1 (01:26:42):
Well, yeah, and I know that they were looking for
actors for a while that looked similar to the young actors,
But I'm guessing that's for like some fill in back,
back backstory, flashback, that's the word flashback moments.

Speaker 2 (01:27:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:27:00):
I just hope that this isn't the weird spinoff that
they had an idea for that nobody would guess a
while back, because I would totally guess this.

Speaker 2 (01:27:10):
Yeah, it's I'm seeing so many examples of this, Like
we had the Conjuring franchise, We've got the Stranger Things franchise,
there's the Boys franchise, where you've got Gen V plus
the animated series. Like, I get it. When you have
a hit, you want to be able to ride that

(01:27:30):
high for as much as you can. But that can
really come back and bite you as well, right, Like,
the fan base can can really turn on you if
they sense that what you're doing is trying to coast.
If it doesn't feel like coasting, then it can be great.
But if it feels like you're coasting on just really
well established IP. I'm also looking at you over there.

(01:27:53):
Game of Thrones.

Speaker 1 (01:27:55):
Oh, I'm excited about the new Game of Thrones show though.

Speaker 2 (01:27:58):
Yeah, but you weren't the previous one, right, the Let's
Meet the Targarians.

Speaker 1 (01:28:03):
No, and this latest one does have a Targarian in
it too, but it looks just more lovely.

Speaker 2 (01:28:08):
Yeah, bald targarian though, so you don't get those those
long white locks. Anyway, This is coming out next year
at some point. We don't have an actual release date,
yet the animation looks fine. I only ever watched the
first season of Stranger Things, so I'm not like the
target audience for this.

Speaker 1 (01:28:28):
I've watched everything but the latest season. I will say
the trailer for the latest season, which dropped last week,
it left me so so like I will watch it.
I know I will enjoy it, but it did nothing
and it excited me. The music choice, per usual, was fantastic,
because they've done a really good job at that. The
thing I am most excited for for Stranger Things at

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this point, other than I'm hoping that the D and
D show that's being worked on by the producers by
I can't remember his name at the moment is Levy?
Is Is that right? I don't know anyhow that there's
a D and D show coming out with by someone
who worked on Shared Your Things, and I'm hoping that
that is somehow tangentially related. Is the play? I want

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to see the play?

Speaker 2 (01:29:12):
Oh right, right again? I would mostly want to see
that to see the effects as they've created. Yeah, because
like when I saw Covenant, I didn't know what to expect.
And I don't mean to make it sound like Covenant
had massive effects. It's just the effects they used were
really impactful. They look good and I didn't know how

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they did it.

Speaker 1 (01:29:36):
That's why I love Beetlejuice. Like I wasn't the hugest
like I liked the original movie just fine, mainly because
I like Gina Davis. But you know, I wasn't the
hugest Beetlejuice fan. But I loved the musical so much
because of all of the stage magic. And then did
the comedies really good too.

Speaker 2 (01:29:56):
Well. Speaking of magic, what's more magic than and the
Greek mythology that animates the foundation of Percy Jackson the Olympians.
Because we got a trailer for season two.

Speaker 1 (01:30:10):
Yeah, I was gonna say, at first, when I thought
you were going to end at the Olympics, I'd be
like adolescence, No, that's magical. No. I watched season one
of Percy Jackson and the Olympians on Disney Plus. It
was definitely ya. I mean they're ya books right, Yeah.
But as a if I if they came out when

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I was a kid and a teenager, I would have
devoured them because I love Greek mythology and I thought
in season one they did some really fun stuff with it.

Speaker 2 (01:30:40):
Yeah, I so I have never read the books. I
have not seen the movies, nor have I watched the series,
so I know very little. But this is actually this
trailer is where I learned that Percy Jackson, the reason
he is Percy Jackson is he's Perseus. And I'm like, well, obviously, Jonathan,

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you're an idiot for not picking up on that. But
I've never read the books or seen any of the
other stuff, and so like, I'm only tangentially aware that
of this property. In the first place, I wrote, I
have no idea what's happening or who anyone is because
I've never read the books or watched any of the

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other media. I get that Percy Jackson is Perseus, and
that's about it. Also there's a camp.

Speaker 1 (01:31:31):
So so the basic premise is that Percy Jackson is
the son of Zeus and doesn't like he doesn't his
mom knows it, but he doesn't know it until he
reaches this middle school high school age, I don't fully know,
and he gets when he starts like he starts seeing
like this harpie following him and basically the powers of

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Olympus or whatever the evil ones are like starting to
hunt him. Down, and so his mom sends him to
a camp to be trained. Now that like he's coming
into his heritage, and the camp is full of children
of the gods, because you know those gods they like
to have some fun.

Speaker 2 (01:32:13):
So this is kind of like similar to what we
would see with Disney's Descendants, right, Like it's like, well,
I'm just I just mean, like it's this, it's a
similar idea of and that you're looking at the offspring
of well, although I think in some cases the offspring

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are supposed to be reimaginations of actual mythological characters. I mean,
Perseus does appear in Greek mythology obviously, so.

Speaker 1 (01:32:45):
Yeah, well, and like he does find out that the
gods play dumb games, like they are not great, and
he has to do fetch quests and like it is
really interesting what they do. Also, the casting is great.
Timothy Audminson plays Hephestus, le Menuel Miranda plays Hermes.

Speaker 2 (01:33:07):
Jason Menzukas is Dianasa.

Speaker 1 (01:33:10):
Yes, and it's fantastic.

Speaker 2 (01:33:13):
His moment in the trailer was the bit that I
liked the most.

Speaker 1 (01:33:16):
Yeah, he's he's really good again. It's definitely why a
I will say that, like the special Effect special practical
Effects Blends is a little bit better than a lot
of the other TV special effects stuff I see for ya,
So I appreciate that. Like I said, they do some
really interesting stuff. In season one, they do some cool
stuff with Medusa, and I really liked that because I

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think Medusa is a very interesting character in mythology, Like, yeah,
if you really dig into it, she was so dirty. Yeah.
So I think it is an interesting way because I
know so many kids who love Greek mythology and it's
not very kid friendly. So it's it's an interesting story
to bridge that gap. It's not.

Speaker 2 (01:34:00):
It's also it's also something that you start getting taught
as early as middle school. And seriously, it's one of
those things where you're like, if you read these things,
they are there's some some weird and objectionable stuff. I'm
not saying not to I'm just saying it's interesting to
me where people have issues and where they don't, And

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like Greek mythology seems to get a pass even though
it's it's it's randy as anything. Let me put it
that way. Also, like Romeo and Juliet, like we're teaching
eighth graders, Romeo and Juliet, And I'm like, have you
read that play?

Speaker 1 (01:34:41):
But anyway, the amount of depress well we won't get
into that, but the amount of depressing stuff that I
had to read in middle school is ridiculous. Oh sure, yeah,
I mean like see for Zachariah for.

Speaker 2 (01:34:56):
Me as Ethan Frome or are the Scarlet Letter or
Testa the Durbravils. But anyway, we're gonna move on. This
comes out, by the way, Percy Jackson The Olympians Come.
Season two comes out December tenth on Disney Plus, and
the first two episodes will drop on the tenth and
after that it's an episode every Wednesday until done.

Speaker 1 (01:35:18):
It was fun. I will probably watch it because the
first season was fun. It wasn't amazing, but it was fun.
The final thing we're gonna talk about is a trailer
for an animated film called Arco.

Speaker 2 (01:35:33):
Yeah. This is a story about a young boy who
wants to fly, and it turns out that in his
time that's not an impossibility. He's in the far, far,
far distant future. But in order to fly, apparently you
have to have like these little kind of green crystals
that you use that I guess give you powers. But

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you're not supposed to fly until you reach a certain age.
The boy is impatient. He tries to fly anyway, and
you know it, he accidentally finds himself transported back in
time but still in our future in the year twenty seventy.

Speaker 1 (01:36:08):
Yeah, it looks cute. It stars Natalie Portman. I got
like Little Prince vibes from it.

Speaker 2 (01:36:14):
So yeah, it's He encounters a young girl named Iris
and together Arco and Iris one are trying to figure
out how to get Arco back home. But also Arco
finds out that the world is in danger, and so
he's trying to help save the world as well. It's
got a great or an interesting cast. I don't know

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about great, some of them are great, but an interesting
cast of voice actors. Besides Natalie Portman, you also have
Will Ferrell, America Ferrera Flee from Red Hot Chili Peppers,
Mark Ruffalo, and Andy Samberg. And it comes out here
in the United States on November fourteenth.

Speaker 1 (01:36:55):
I've heard really good things about this one. It's not
one of those animations I'm like, I have to watch it,
but I will watch.

Speaker 2 (01:37:03):
Yeah. Yeah. We also had a trailer for Christmas Karma,
but we cut it.

Speaker 1 (01:37:08):
Yeah. I also put up the trailer for mighty nine,
but we cut that as well. But everything I'm seeing,
all the little bits and clips fromighty nine, I'm so
excited for it. I was so excited.

Speaker 2 (01:37:17):
Yeah, So that's it. That another epic episode because we
missed one week. But here's hoping we're able to keep
a steady recording session. Although we are going into the
holiday season too, so that's probably going to impact us
a bit.

Speaker 1 (01:37:33):
We'll see. I don't know if I don't know what
my holiday plans are yet, So we'll figure it out
as we go and we'll keep you updated. But in
the meantime, Jonathan, it has been an epic episode. Do
you want to give advice on how to reach out
to you?

Speaker 2 (01:37:47):
Sure? If you wish to contact me, First, you shall
have to befriend a frog, not just any frog. You
have to find my long lost best friend, Jeremiah. He
was a bullfrog and he was a very good friend
of mine. You must hunt down Jeremiah, and then you

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must apprentice to Jeremiah. You must learn from him, and
he will teach you to see signs of jubilation where
you might least expect it, such as among the fishes
of the deep blue sea. And once you learn how
you can bring joy to the world, you can prepare

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yourself for the next big season, which is of course,
the Holiday push, which is all about joy to the world.
And we're gonna need all that joy to get through
the unending avalanche of holiday movies we're gonna be subjected
to over the next two months. Anyway, once you do
all of that, you can then come back to me.
I'll use my little rubber stamp to mark your book

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to show that you did, in fact do all this stuff,
and then you can ask me your question and I'll
answer it.

Speaker 1 (01:39:03):
And that stamp was in reference to Jonathan went to
the Food and Wine Festival. If Jeremiah is no little
longer talking to you because you helped him drink too
much wine, then you can reach out to us on
social media on Facebook and Instagram and threads. We are
Larger Drunk Collider. That is also our handle on discord.

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You can find an invite to discord on our website.
It is www dot Larger Drunk Colder dot com. You
can also reach out to us via email. Our email
is largenerdompod at gmail dot com. Thank you so much
for listening. We love you being a part of our
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until next time. I am Ariel. There's too much. My
brain is no longer working casting.

Speaker 2 (01:40:00):
And I have Jonathan in my heart. It's always spooky season.
Strickland the Large Nerdron Collider was created by Ariel Caston
and produced, edited, published, deleted, undeleted, published again. Cursed at
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